veteran-class

[sudden cedar]

I got a ping here quite recently, but i can't seem to find it anymore. Was it important in any way?

[vernal trench]

No

[unreal nova]

Yes, the Chonky there wanted to play with you. Something something cos I said you were good.

[grand perch]

use "mentions:" search tag

[vernal trench]

We played

Hes pretty good

Charge crusher

[unreal nova]

Told yah, I was serious when I said solo'd a chunk while we idiots kept potatoing lul.

[vernal trench]

Potato

[sudden cedar]

🙂

[sleek garden]

I have decided I don't like knife

When I have no grenades I sorely miss my devils claw

[errant carbon]

I sorely miss my devils claw
Probably the first time anyone has ever said that tbh

[tame lodge]

Real

[dry cloak]

Devils claw good weapon

Mk7 especially

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

[sinful swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-giga-chad-giga-chad-gif-23156898

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[tall torrent]

ok finally fixed it

[uncut pebble]

If it had a better flak and unyielding adm and higher base damage, I'd agree.

[mellow cobalt]

Its really hard not to panic when crushers do this

[faint beacon]

DC needs a few touch ups and it could easily be a very reliable melee

Its like Shaul and Shovel its just held back by like a few small things but its still a great choice

[hollow ibex]

the funny thing is that dclaw feels a lot stronger than hsword, just in terms of sfx and vfx

hsword feels really wimpy in comparison

but hsword is stronger lol

[terse idol]

Really.. I thought hsword felt stronger

Nothing like lopping off heads with its heavy attack

[dry cloak]

heavy sword on zealot is golden

favourite weapon

[unreal nova]

IDK, they both sound and feel worse than a dinky lil shiv.

[faint beacon]

HS does not feel bad at all

Having it lob off over 5 21st groaner heads in one swing is bliss

[elder fiber]

I just wish hsword got a decent skin that wasn't a goofy palette swap

[unreal nova]

Aren't they all like that with extra attachments in most cases?

[crimson pebble]

if only it didnt tickle carapace

[tall torrent]

[hollow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-patrick-star-brain-malfunction-gif-14480625

[tall torrent]

hmm font too small

[tame lodge]

I was going to see if I could discern the weapon by moveset

But then I clicked the image and saw the name

[faint beacon]

ruined the surprise

naturally he's doing Caxes first seeing he uses them the most

Achlys #1 💪

[tall torrent]

start with best

also just to make sure format works

[faint beacon]

Wont lie this is slight cope but it matches this outfit, skin sucks for the rashad but the camo makes it fit really well with this Outfit

It was dirt cheap also thats 90% of the reason why

[tall torrent]

all that just to have hand and axe clip through the outfit

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-backflip-speed-backflip-ishowspeed-backflip-gif-12661145440690617681

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimple-pun-puns-sea-puns-shark-my-words-gif-27141528

Ancient outfits always having clipping issues that they will NEVER fix

[tall torrent]

I don't think they even can fix a lot of them

[tame lodge]

Speed almost hit the girl 💀

[tall torrent]

too many physics = massively higher computation cost

[crimson pebble]

i hope they blow up armagedon next

[faint beacon]

Never happening 🚬

Or do you want Cadian 2: They wont shut the fuck up about Armageddon this time

[crimson pebble]

97th war of armagedon gazghul drives the mother of all spacehulks into the planet accidentally

[faint beacon]

My money is on Angron doing something and making Ghaz even more angry LMAO

[crimson pebble]

what was angron reason for ever going to armagedon supposed to be

[faint beacon]

Big war happening, something something Chaos on Planet something something spill blood for the blood god

thats like the smallest way I can explain it

[crimson pebble]

so no real reason other then to fight for the sake of fighting

[faint beacon]

Its a lot more complex

[faint beacon]

Warp fuckery kinda just happened to plop his ship next to Armageddon

and he said fuck it we ball

Armgeddon probably would be in ruin if it weren't for Space marines and Grey knights showing up to help

[crimson pebble]

i still question how angron the guy supposed to angry to think is still supposed to be able to operate a ship

[faint beacon]

for the first battle at least

[faint beacon]

I'll be honest I think thats for others to do he's kinda just there

waiting to kill something

[crimson pebble]

shouldnt he be killing everyone else on board seeing as that was his second favorite pass time before even becoming a demon

[faint beacon]

I mean yeah that comes with being a Bloodletter

How the fuck he doesn't just kill everyone on there

I have no clue

[crimson pebble]

is he even cognitive enough to be able to cooperate w other traitor primarchs still

[faint beacon]

Honestly at this point im pretty sure they'd go at each others throats first unless the great game was put on halt for a moment cause of something more interesting for the 4 gods to take advantage of rears its head

Great Game just being the 4 gods all fighting for power over each other

[crimson pebble]

i think the only two thatd be somewhat able to cooperate would be maybe pert and mort to questionable effect

[tall torrent]

@unreal nova this is what I meant with "too much info to put into 1 pic"

[unreal nova]

Ah, but that's not mk6 knoife.

[tall torrent]

If u want it so much u can make it urself

[narrow frost]

I hate how everyone is using bolter now

this was funny though

[faint beacon]

I assure you he needed to use those 3 Bolter rounds on 1 scab stalker

its very crucial

[narrow frost]

stealth to reload

[supple stag]

Bolter vets smh

[tall torrent]

Boltgun without exe stance is not real boltgun veteran play style

[unreal nova]

Nu.

[tall torrent]

Then stop asking

[grand perch]

you want knife diagram?

pointy end goes in enemy

[loud belfry]

knoife

[gaunt anchor]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e5273d8-e0f4-4de4-ad2b-4096fede1196/combat-axe-my-beloved-2
@vernal trench

Here is the vet build I was using last night

I got help from Vet to make it

[hollow ibex]

don't take determined

and duck and dive

[gaunt anchor]

Determined is to help Zarona

and duck and dive was cause I was struggling with gunners

and its been working

[crimson pebble]

could easily have superiority complex but doesnt

when does the pain end

[gaunt anchor]

look, you can blame @tall torrent

I am simply a creature following the decree of higher beings

[hollow ibex]

zarona has very high suppression resist already 🤔

[gaunt anchor]

I was following the will of the combaat axe that whispers into my ear as I sleep

[tall torrent]

No

That’s boltpistol

Zarona recolver sways quite badly when suppressed

[hollow ibex]

oh i guess it's only hipfire that doesn't care

[tall torrent]

It’s nice QoL for 1 point

[tall torrent]

Yea only hipfire

But you’re unlikely to hipfire at enemies >20m away

[hollow ibex]

i don't path over to left hand bottom with infil

can't afford it

[gaunt anchor]

and I took duck and dive because I suck

[tall torrent]

I don’t think u rly need duck & dive

[gaunt anchor]

you recommended it what do you meannn

[hollow ibex]

[tall torrent]

When did I

[gaunt anchor]

I am pretty certain you did? I might be mis remembering and it was someone else

[tall torrent]

Don’t think I did

I only said it’s strong in solo/clutch

But not required in groups usually

[faint beacon]

I kept getting burstered by one of our psykers

[narrow frost]

my bad

[faint beacon]

"Surely they'll let me push it"

The Surge Staff in question:

[hollow ibex]

surprised it's not a trauma user

next time just run away when you hear a burster lol

[hollow ibex]

and yeah this is why 200+ HP is important in pubs

[urban dew]

hey guys just curious, is dueling sword still as good as ever? or has it been nerfed yet?

[tropic notch]

It’s still good

[urban dew]

awesome ty!

[tropic notch]

I don’t think they’ll nerf anything as well unless it’s game breaking like old assail

[pseudo fiber]

I think DS's already poor horde clear might be made worse

[atomic void]

in what world does it have poor horde clear

[tropic halo]

Too good and boring

Even on horde is still good against them

[unreal nova]

Havoc40. It's truly a single target weapon.

[orchid hemlock]

In hordes it's good enough for basic wave clear

But it really struggles into mixed

But the thing that makes DS strong is how little resources you need to make it effective at what you need it to do

[tropic halo]

You just hold heavy and special combo, thats it

[gaunt anchor]

Alright time to cheese the Killshot ready penance

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/mimimimimi-cat-sleeping-snoring-cat-sleeping-cat-drooling-cat-gif-23979759

You killed a crusher with little effort in less of two seconds

[atomic void]

havoc 40 is le shieieit

[gaunt anchor]

Half way done with killshot already

[tall torrent]

no, same as before (abysmal)

[tall torrent]

just farm mercantile starting section lol it's ez

[gaunt anchor]

I am doing that yeah :)

[tall torrent]

lemme help u then

[gaunt anchor]

MMT for auric mercantile, fitting back and firing a recon las

[tall torrent]

no u don't need to shoot even

just spawn camp with a rashad

[gaunt anchor]

nah its good, I am basically done now anyways

I use the rashad when my recon is dry anyways

also been using shredder frags to help out with some of the nade perks

got it

I also got the dodge this penance lol

I got every single veteran penance now!

time to snag the stunstorm penances

it shouldd be easy solo

[surreal gust]

Now do the other 210 class related ones

[gaunt anchor]

I am close to psyker

I just need the private party one and the complete X missions

for zealot I need the private match, stun ones and the fire

[hollow ibex]

oh... i should prob get on those lol

too lazy though

[gaunt anchor]

oh yeah and the

[surreal gust]

I’ll get them once I play more heresy missions

[gaunt anchor]

loner one

ewww

Anyways, now I need to make a good exe stance build

Without marksman focus

@tall torrent got any advice for that?

[uncut pebble]

At least you're not complaining about the tknife penance.

[tall torrent]

boltgun + exe stance

[gaunt anchor]

the kill certain specalists on zealot?

that was easy really

I assume dump for boltgun is uhhh

mobility

[narrow frost]

[gaunt anchor]

I got this from a random mission reward, so I just gotta level the mastery and change the perks and blessings

good LORD this thing hits like a truck

[hollow ibex]

bolter's a beast

and feels fuggin amazing to use

i haven't been using it because of the event though

[gaunt anchor]

it just rips through everything like damn

[hollow ibex]

yeah

have to be careful with ammo economy though

don't be this guy

literally 2 minutes into the game

[gaunt anchor]

@tall torrent How is this looking

I salvaged it from my uhh exe stance marksman lasgun build so it might be stinky bad

[tall torrent]

not good

[hollow ibex]

rude

[tall torrent]

abysmal even

[hollow ibex]

rude

(but true )

[gaunt anchor]

understandable

what shall I change then?

[gaunt anchor]

ty ty

faster swap speed does make a lott of sense yeah

Oh I have two points just hanging out. I assume thats personal choice?

[tall torrent]

yes

I run twinned blast and the bigger they are

[gaunt anchor]

Alright

[tall torrent]

u can also just skip subnodes for exe stance

they're not required

[gaunt anchor]

I am thinking

Rending strikes maybe
bigger they are

[tall torrent]

rending is not required

this build also doesn't use axe

[gaunt anchor]

NOOOOO

NOT THE AXE

😔

what does it use

[tall torrent]

heavy sword IX

[gaunt anchor]

huh never used the heavy sword

Why the heavy sword?

[tall torrent]

low point cost horde clear

and doesn't suck vs ragers

[gaunt anchor]

low point cost?

[tall torrent]

yea

u can't grab atk speed easily on a boltgun build

so axe is basically out of the question

[gaunt anchor]

Ahhh

[tall torrent]

unless u want to miss 1-tap breakpoints

[gaunt anchor]

Makes sense

Heavy sword it is then

what blessings on the sword and boltgun?

I assume the puncturing shells

[tall torrent]

flak + maniac for both
deathblow + headtaker for sword
puncture + pinning fire for boltgun

[gaunt anchor]

got it got it

[umbral scaffold]

Hey lads i reached lvl 30 and i played mostly solo malice sometimes heresy, i got pretty bored of it and i would like to get into heresy and damnation though heresy solo most of the time the team sucks and i lowkey prob suck too so i wondered if there is anybody here down to help me out get better and stand my ground on damnation etc

[tall torrent]

sure, what region are u in

[umbral scaffold]

europe

central europe

[tall torrent]

I'm in NA east

I can at least show u some key mechanics that might help u stay alive better?

if ur interested

[umbral scaffold]

sure i mean i cant rn but u can this weekend

[tall torrent]

alr just ping or dm me then

[umbral scaffold]

sure thanks

I mean i can play tomorrow from 20:00 CET

idk if its around 6 hours in timezones

[gaunt anchor]

I love the boltgun

this thing is so much fun

[surreal gust]

I prefer the pistol since it has a semi auto fire mode at all

[tall torrent]

boltgun does too

[surreal gust]

Does it?

[tame lodge]

Aim down sights

[wheat stratus]

the famous bolter primary burst down bosses

[tame lodge]

💀

[gaunt anchor]

finished a damnation mission without going down once

felt good

[austere pine]

which fatshark employee smoking the good kush

this is heavy sword 7

somebody tell me how the first heavy is a strikedown please

a wide, almost perfectly horizontal slash going across your whole screen

[sleek garden]

maybe they mixed it up

If you go into psykhanium does it have better armor piercing properties than the next attack

The achlys combat axe starts with a sideways strikedown heavy

[austere pine]

it's pretty good pierce, sure, and also damages well, but like

that's still kind of the domain of assassin/relentless imo

er, vanguard

not assassin

[tame lodge]

It has the same property of dealing full damage to two targets

💀

[sleek garden]

I see

[gaunt anchor]

@tall torrent quick question

so the stance perk that lets allies see em too

will its duration also continue as I get kills?

[austere pine]

yes

and why ping the glorious path when there's many friendly veterans in the chat who could also help

[narrow frost]

no

teammate exstance vision only lasts 5 seconds and doesnt get refreshed

[gaunt anchor]

cause he is the vet master and I get conflicted awnsers now lmao

also I assumee the heavy sword special attack is similar to combat axe.

Doesn't do much but looks super cool

[austere pine]

i swear to big e i remember it getting refreshed

[narrow frost]

its for single target damage and a attack pattern reset

[gaunt anchor]

ooo I seee

[austere pine]

essentially the same except it resets combo, which the hswords want a good bit

[narrow frost]

for single target damage its heavy special heavy special

[austere pine]

for single target

[gaunt anchor]

ty ty

also very nice pfp

[austere pine]

and if you start the chain of heavy, special, heavy, special..., with a special instead of a heavy, it should start off faster with damage

or something

[surreal gust]

I’m surprised it’s taken you this long to compliment it (I like it too btw)

[gaunt anchor]

I just kept forgetting

I recognize it and I like the artists work

[narrow frost]

Sparrowl is great

[gaunt anchor]

snake ladies my beloved or smth like that

Also boltgun is peak this thing is awesome

[surreal gust]

Petition to put bolter on psyker

[austere pine]

their teeny arms would break

[surreal gust]

Nah, I’d win

[gaunt anchor]

give it to them

but

make them get launched back when they fire it rapidly

[austere pine]

people would come up with a movement tech

[gaunt anchor]

make it like a poxburster knack back so you go YEET

[surreal gust]

Medic damage surfing

[austere pine]

just damage surfing in general

these people were all JUST fucking in

[uncut pebble]

Just carry harder, 10head.

[austere pine]

we did experience vietnam though

(we were the vietcong)

and we would have turned it if people didn't leave

[runic jackal]

what is the difference in the power swords?

[austere pine]

the first one is worse

not by a lot but it objectively is

[runic jackal]

they seemed roughly identical which confused the shit outa me

so the mark 4 is better?

[tame lodge]

6

Slightly better

[runic jackal]

noted

confused but noted

[uncut pebble]

Mk6 can cancel charge with blocking, and it is capable of dropping a crusher instantly.

Need power cycler to do it, but who doesn't run power cycler on psword?

[runic jackal]

im sorry but, how does, it drop a crusher?

[uncut pebble]

Push attack has an insane finesse modifier.

PA > light = dead crusher.

[tame lodge]

Activate Push Attack to the head then light attack

[runic jackal]

wow

testing

[uncut pebble]

You need damage talents obviously but yeah instantly drop a crusher for funzies.

[runic jackal]

wack

what a tech. never knew

[austere pine]

yeah i had no idea either

and then i found that out and never used the first one ever again

and the 6 also has a 25% built in block efficiency, as if the devs knew about the technique and it isn't a bug

it also allows you to act a little sooner when facing a horde, meaning you're not a sitting duck for the whole activation animation

[runic jackal]

wack

[hollow ibex]

mk3 is actually so fucking bad lol

[austere pine]

it's just that the only thing saving the power sword is the 6's capability of not being a sitting duck for the whole game

[shadow dagger]

legendary qp lobby

[tall torrent]

yes, but only ur kills

[tall torrent]

it actually does refresh, was checked

[narrow frost]

interesting

did it always?

[tall torrent]

prob

[narrow frost]

I guess every pub that took it never was able to refresh

good to know

does the subnodes refresh for teammates as well (if you take ogryn vison and kill an ogryn)

[tall torrent]

highlight share is only for non-ogryn elite and specialists

[woeful dragon]

Alright so for some reason I can't quick throw grenades. I get the aimed throw no matter what. Can't seem to find a solution.

[raw needle]

wym

you cant underhand them?

[woeful dragon]

You're supposed to be able to tap left click and get a throw with a shorter fuse time

[calm shard]

yes, but the vision share doesn't

it sucks

[narrow frost]

@calm shard

it does

[hollow ibex]

i never have a point for it anyway lol

[calm shard]

...

still sucks

[surreal gust]

okay so I'm having trouble installing mods. can someone help

[calm shard]

as an exe stance vet you are almost always going to be the best equipped to kill the highlighted enemies yourself

[surreal gust]

trying to get extended weapon customization working but it's not doing anything

[calm shard]

did you put it in your mod list

[surreal gust]

ye

[calm shard]

also a hotfix came out recently did you remember to turn your mods back on

[surreal gust]

it's not showing up at all, yeah I just installed them for the first time

[hollow ibex]

did you list it in that text file?

and did you install all the prereqs such as mod framework?

[surreal gust]

yeah, but I'm not exactly sure what I put in the file

i did the prereqs

[raw needle]

folder name

[hollow ibex]

i just use this sketchy bat script to generate the text file

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/139

[surreal gust]

like this

or

[raw needle]

oh

k

see the issue

unpack them

[surreal gust]

folder inside a folder?

[raw needle]

yes

[hollow ibex]

something like this

[raw needle]

yours are still archived

[surreal gust]

okay so once I rename them they should work

well rather

move them

[hollow ibex]

extract them

[surreal gust]

they are

[raw needle]

you extracted them inside folders that you created

[surreal gust]

yeah, it looks like this

[raw needle]

yeah its good

[surreal gust]

i'll see if it works

[raw needle]

👍

[surreal gust]

yeah it's still not working

same thing as before, it just doesn't appear to be doing anything

[raw needle]

no error messages?

[surreal gust]

where would I see errors

[raw needle]

did you change your load order

or does it still look like thsi

[surreal gust]

still looks like that, just named the same as the folders in the second screenshot

[raw needle]

do you have mod options ingame?

[surreal gust]

yes

[raw needle]

can you open a mod folder and ss it

[surreal gust]

my main mod folder or just like weapon custom

[raw needle]

weapon custom

[raw needle]

weird

can you screenshot your txt just to double check

[surreal gust]

ye

[raw needle]

but ig it should be right if you're not seeing any errors pop up on game startup

[hollow ibex]

idk if it changes anything, but there shouldn't be a new line between mods

[raw needle]

i would be surprised if it did but yeah

[surreal gust]

oh, lemme change that and see'

[raw needle]

waot

where did you get wc from

nexus?

[surreal gust]

yeah

should i not have?

[raw needle]

#1168063453416669284 message

no its not updated there

[surreal gust]

oh, alright

uh i don't got access

can you DM me the discord link

[raw needle]

#📌communities message

[surreal gust]

got it

still having the same issue

i don't even know anymore

[hollow ibex]

it's a really unstable mod anyway

and it'll def break when the next patch comes

[surreal gust]

aight, sad about it though

[uncut pebble]

What exactly is broken about it?

[calm shard]

it has a few memory leaks

also causes crashes if you open the customization menu of weapons that have recently released

got fixed on the newest 2 handers recently

[surreal gust]

Installed it correctly, would not pop up or anything

[uncut pebble]

What do you meant by "would not pop up?"

[surreal gust]

It doesn’t show up in the mod options, as well as the features themself don’t work, it’s as if I don’t have it installed

[uncut pebble]

...did you toggle darktide mod loader..?

Did you save your text file?

I remember editing mine and being real dumb and not saving it.

[gaunt anchor]

behold

my dogshit darktide gameplay!

https://youtu.be/RJqXF_xg7Ik?si=Qf8zKyPwHVKPvvC0

[shadow dagger]

just finished a game with 2 non ogryns at over 1k dmg taken

do we belong in auric

😟

[burnt vortex]

You finished the mission, that's all that matters

[gaunt anchor]

so true so true

as long as you were still able to finish it, you got your dockets

[surreal gust]

Did both, and correctly edited the file

[trim steppe]

It's finally over

[crystal monolith]

Shame, but my ass is not aiming down an attachment rail on the hellbore

[gaunt anchor]

real

[hollow ibex]

easy way around this

just buy the p2w skin

oh wait... you can't anymore

(i missed it too 😭 )

[trim steppe]

There was a skin that fixed the helbore sights?

[arctic rampart]

there is with weapon customization

IMO its worth that mod just for the ADS customizations on some guns

what's the best recon for not horde

[hollow ibex]

vic and xii are both good

[grand perch]

Yeah there were some that changed the sights, most people would probably say for the better

Which makes it entirely okay to use mods to change sights imo

[tall torrent]

So many stutters

[gaunt anchor]

yeahhh, darktide did not like me recording

also

please ignore me just sliding off the ledge

[tall torrent]

There’s a disturbing lack of sliding in there

[gaunt anchor]

honestly, I did say it was dogshit gameplay

I am working on using sliding more often, its a problem

[tall torrent]

You can also access HS9’s sweeping heavy attacks by doing light 1 first

U don’t have to wind up a heavy 1

[gaunt anchor]

oooo ty

[atomic zephyr]

so i've completed havoc up to 19, but it still ranks me at 16. when will it go up?

[gaunt anchor]

I do wanna add more sliding to my usual gameplay, I just need to get it muscle memory

[errant carbon]

When Havoc and Melk reset

[vernal trench]

Slide when moving forward to not get shot

[hollow ibex]

4pm PT tomorrow

[atomic zephyr]

huh, funky

[gaunt anchor]

got it 🫡

[tropic halo]

Now do it and repeat again against horde of gunners

[elder stump]

im very very new to the game but was trynna level up my havoc last night and someone recommended me a new build. I used to have the weapons specalist keystone but he recommended these other perks and a bunch of grenade based perks

are they really worth it over a keystone?

[tropic notch]

I’d recommend weapon specialist with the power sword mk 3 or the Rashad mk 3 combat axe

Or if you don’t want ws you can run focus target

But at high havoc vet just turns into shredder nade spam

So that guy is kinda right

Oh and I’d use plasma for my ranged weapon

[elder stump]

he recommended dueling sword. Is the power sword worth it over it?

[elder stump]

I was using plas but he recommended a las

[tropic notch]

The dueling sword is really good but in high havoc you’re gonna be constantly surrounded so you’ll want something with cleave

The mk 3 power sword with power cycler and sunder is what I’d run

Or the Rashad mk 3 combat axe with headtaker and brutal momentum

[tropic notch]

Yeah I wouldn’t the plasma has infinite cleave

Its really really good for havocs

[elder stump]

thanks!

[tropic notch]

One moment I’ll make you a build

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e53984f-cbb7-43c4-86f7-8c5e461b1454/vet-havoc @elder stump

This is what I would run

Really you can put those top 2 points anywhere else

[elder stump]

thanks! Do i not need 15% damage to elites?

[tropic notch]

I don’t think it reaches any breakpoints with this plus in havoc breakpoints don’t really matter

Everything has tons of health and will take 4 to 5 hits to kill

[elder stump]

what about bring it down?

is that not rlly good?

[tropic notch]

It’s good if you’re going for focus target

[elder stump]

ah I see. I thought bc of all the bosses it woulda been good lol

[tropic notch]

I was about to say if you don’t want weapons specialist you can get that

It is if you want you can take those top 2 out and put it there

[elder stump]

the biggest thing he kept saying I should get was grenade tinkerer though. Is that like rlly needed or with my grenade regen I can just throw multiple nades?

[elder stump]

are keystones not that important then?

[tropic notch]

I don’t think it’s needed

[tropic notch]

Oh no they are

Weapons specialists is absolutely amazing

And so is focus target

[elder stump]

okay thank you!

ill 100% be using ur build

[tropic notch]

With a single hoard and you’ll probably regen 5 nades

In 40 you’d usually want a purg psyker

[elder stump]

is that the lightning bubble one?

[tropic notch]

That’ll be you main cooldown reduction and nade generation

[elder stump]

unfort all my friends are shround zealots. so our team comp is 3 shroud zealots and me lol

[elder stump]

how does that work exactly?

[tropic notch]

No I’d never use smite in havoc

I’d only use bubble if theres the cranial corruption

[elder stump]

the stunning lightning? really? It seems rlly good

[tropic notch]

Nope it nerfs zealots and vet

And doesn’t kill them

I’m sorry purg psyker is the fire psyker

[tropic notch]

Psyker has an ability that on any elite or special skill you get 5% ability back when in cohesion and veterans talent demolition team gives you 5% chance to get a grenade back on elite or special skill by you or allies

So basically there’s gonna be soooooo many ragers and stuff you’ll basically have infinite shout and nades

[elder stump]

huh thanks. Ill try and get one of my friends to switch of zealot that sounds amazing lol

unlikely though

[tropic notch]

Tbh zealot and psyker carry havocs

Like hard

Zealots book literally makes the team unkillable

[elder stump]

whats the point of a vet in havoc then? Bc ive heard u want 2 zealots, a psyker and a vet

[tropic notch]

Vet for ammo gen

[elder stump]

none of my friends r book zealots unfort

[elder stump]

aaaah smart I see

[tropic notch]

Really I’d do 2 psykers, vet, and zealot

Or all zealot

[tropic notch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dab97d4-e787-41b6-a116-d802b6166d19/medic-3

[elder stump]

huh I guess ill try practising my zealot then

[tropic notch]

This is what i would run

Except in the sword I’d use wrath instead of rampage

[elder stump]

thanks! Ill level up my zealot and use that build

funnily enough ur vet build is pretty close to my original build

1 perk diff

since ive swapped off the extra boss damage perk who in my team should I expect to be doing the boss damage? Usually its me

[tropic notch]

Yeah for havoc a lot of builds are rigid sadly

[crude wind]

Vets are good in Havoc if you run all the busted shit. Tag/shout/frags/ammo aura all valuable for the team

Bolter and infernus do work depending on modifiers

[tropic notch]

Yeah I would or if you want to delete bosses you can run focus targets with that talent

But you’d take off weapon specialist

[elder stump]

true, Never realoding is quite nice for one

[tropic notch]

And it’s needed for the power sword

I’m sure with the right team you’ll do fine especially with that build

You constantly spam nades and shout

[crude wind]

Weapon specialist is just the most fun to play

[tropic notch]

And melee when you somehow don’t have them lol

[crude wind]

I wish exe stance and MM focus were good

[elder stump]

yeah unfort I think its currently a skissule lol

need more practise

[tropic notch]

I mean they are

[elder stump]

I die way to much compared to my team

[tropic notch]

Also

[crude wind]

They are in numbers but they do nothing when you need to bot due, so in Havoc unless you've got an Ogryn babysitting your ass it's hard to get consistent value out of, which makes it just not worth it imo

When you need to not die*

Ac lol

[tropic notch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d51275b-f9c4-4494-9b88-bfafbbbf4981/terrible-vet-build @elder stump Try this for aurics and such

I wouldn’t take it into havoc lol but this is a really fun build

[elder stump]

thank you so much!

which build is better for aurics? Not thinking about fun too much aha

trynna not be a drag on my teamates first

[tropic notch]

Well they both are

If you good damage with amazing mobility try the one I just posted

I soloed a beast of nugrel before my team could touch it in auric Malestrom lol

[elder stump]

damn thanks. ill defo try it

[elder stump]

I see on ur plasma u put 70 in thermal and stopping. Dont I want 60 in charge since you never charge a plasma gun?

[tropic notch]

Also you’ll feel like doomguy or v2 if you play doom or ultrakill lol

[tropic notch]

I believe the ideal stats for it are 80 in everything but 71 thermal and 69 in charge rate

[elder stump]

What would be the downside of using the charge as a dump stat if plasma is all about spamming left click?

[tropic notch]

There we go fixed and basically I believe it also counts towards the regular fire

I think

I’d have to check

[elder stump]

Damn i never knew that. Thanks for letting me know lol. Time to get a new plasma

[limber rune]

does anyone know if auric maelstrom counts towards the regular maelstrom penance aswell?

[vernal trench]

theres only maelstrom penances i think

so yes

it doesnt specify its only regular maelstrom afaik

[unreal nova]

Answer is, yes. Auric mael counts towards Auric Exemplar.

[vernal trench]

Karien gotta carryin me through aurics to get me auric examplar

[unreal nova]

No, just cockroach it. You have stealth, reeeeeeeeeeee

[vernal trench]

It takes effort

Ill get karien to solo it for me while i afk at the start

[supple stag]

Just play Bolter VoC Vet

lmao

[vernal trench]

Fuck no

Fuck shout

[supple stag]

based

[vernal trench]

[supple stag]

Playing Infiltrate is my guilty pleasure

[unreal nova]

WDYM? I play heresy, ffs.

[supple stag]

Wrong

[vernal trench]

U carry me stompt and papa on h40s wdym

[vernal trench]

[unreal nova]

Get Stompy Dompty to carry you instead.

[vernal trench]

Stompty dompty too busy stompting monsters in monster hunter wild

[unreal nova]

WDYM BY THAT??? YOU ALL CALL ME THE BLOODY MASCOT.

[vernal trench]

Hell yea

[unreal nova]

Go bonk him with 5 barrels.

[vernal trench]

Mascot carrying bro

Karien the team mascot

[vernal trench]

@latent parcel u ready to get barrelled off?

[unreal nova]

FFS. I don't even do damage.

[unreal nova]

I mean dart him till he sleeps then wake him by blowing him up

[vernal trench]

Mascot doesnt play in the team bro

They r mascot

[vernal trench]

Why u mean to my stompty dompty

My big gentle ogryn with big blue eyes

[latent parcel]

is karien being mean to my ogryn again?

[vernal trench]

Dude this is so hot

[vernal trench]

Yes

Iron mike getting bullied by the carryin mascot

[unreal nova]

Wot.

[unreal nova]

Wot 2.0

[vernal trench]

So hot

[latent parcel]

karien so mean

😦

did karien get her havoc 40 done?

for the week

[unreal nova]

You mean, you left us for giant beasts.

[latent parcel]

i still login for duos!

[unreal nova]

Yes, but had to play with a toxic cancer cos nobody else.

Ask papa for story.

[latent parcel]

whose toxic cancer

chonkey?

[vernal trench]

Papa carried her

[unreal nova]

Or Crassus.

[latent parcel]

[vernal trench]

Bro

Why me

Im nice

:(

[latent parcel]

ur right

mascot mean

[vernal trench]

Thats right

@unreal nova ur mean to everyone

Mean mascot

[vernal trench]

Did u buy the new ogryn shirt yet

Please i need to see iron mike wearing it

Please

[latent parcel]

LOL

big blue eyed ogryn thats shirtless?

[vernal trench]

YES

[unreal nova]

No. He not even awake enough then to play from memory.

[vernal trench]

yea i was sleeping

If i was there we wouldve won 5 games in a row

Instead of papa getting so fed up he just leaves after a win

[unreal nova]

Basically pvp happened.

[vernal trench]

I iwsh i saw it all

Mustve been dunny af

Funny

[unreal nova]

Nu.

[vernal trench]

Yes

I bet u were all screaming at each other

[unreal nova]

No just papa and toxic guy.

I'm just tired and Crassus was trying to remove as many barrels ahead.

49 mins Archivium Sycorax.

Do I need to say more.

[vernal trench]

Was that guy trying to barrel u all

[vernal trench]

Fucl dude

Fuck

[unreal nova]

Papa specifically.

[vernal trench]

Damn

That guy mustve been real dogshit

How many times did he down or die

On archivum

[unreal nova]

On zealot, too many. On vet, not really.

[vernal trench]

Ofc

Shout crutcher

[unreal nova]

Cos as zealot, he kept running off ahead.

[vernal trench]

How do u die as xealot

wtf

[unreal nova]

Don't ask me. 3 zealots was too many but he complained nobody shoot ranged.

Guy brought flamer btw.

Charge but still.

When btw, Crassus was shooting stuff Papa can't reach.

Well, when papa not using Bolt Pistol anyway.

[vernal trench]

Bro if ur a charge zealot jist charge the ranged

Wtf he doin

Was papa playing smyker

[tender rose]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-funny-cat-cute-gif-3799404593284528017

[unreal nova]

Yes.

[latent parcel]

Karien the karry was shooting barrels?

[unreal nova]

No. The toxic guy.

[latent parcel]

oh

blasting teammates off the map?

that sounds like @vernal trench

[unreal nova]

Yep. Well, Papa anyway.

[vernal trench]

Bru u did that to me

Vigil station

[latent parcel]

nah

[vernal trench]

Yea

[latent parcel]

that was the purge psyker

[vernal trench]

No

U lie

[latent parcel]

maff got me on warren

dont u forget it

[vernal trench]

It was u

I picked u up

I remember

LMAO

[vernal trench]

Smyker boring

[latent parcel]

u wish it was me

[vernal trench]

I miss papas ogryn

[latent parcel]

so u could blame me for something

[vernal trench]

Yea

I blame u for everything

[latent parcel]

thats why we dont duo

[vernal trench]

Fuck

[vernal trench]

i gotta get better bro

Not on 150 ping

Imma keep getting netted and dogged itll be crazy

[latent parcel]

hell ya

[vernal trench]

The rubberband nets bro

U should duo with karien

Clandestine

[latent parcel]

hell ya

@unreal nova you ready

[unreal nova]

Nu. I get 270 ping on a good day with either of you.

[latent parcel]

[vernal trench]

Clandestine duo

Karien on book zealot

Karryin u

[latent parcel]

ya

shes the best

[vernal trench]

[unreal nova]

Nu. At that point, you should just solo.

[vernal trench]

If anyone needs a havoc 40 done ill ping karien

[unreal nova]

Nu. I do it once a week. It's tiring.

[vernal trench]

No

Everyday

[granite pine]

what blessing should i put on the combat shotgun

and which mark

[vernal trench]

Tf ur pronouns

[granite pine]

dont know what that has to do with the combat shotgun

[unreal nova]

Only know you want fullbore for slug. And the ramping damage on shot one.

But combat shotgun eh.

[granite pine]

i know its bad

i still wanna use it

[formal ice]

This veteran have a brain of a Knife Stealth Zealot

[unreal nova]

Chonky? Absolutely.

Complains about book, is 90% never in range for it anyway.

[formal ice]

Wait a second its a zealot

[unreal nova]

Wait wat.

[formal ice]

If you try really hard, you can see the small class thing on the name

Which really looks like the zealot one

[raw needle]

railings not osha compliant

100% a fatshark issue here

[unreal nova]

Seems like L4D2 Mercy Hospital all over.

Where mod to ensure compliance to OSHA?

[steep flower]

Full bore & no respite are a way to go; these work for both agripina & katrael which are best

Also wth @vernal trench @latent parcel why u bully Karien xd

[unreal nova]

I told them that tbh.

Tell them what happened btw.

[steep flower]

Oh i will in due time with details

[unreal nova]

To be fair, Stompty Dompty left us for Wilds though. Chonky Donky is still around but always eepy.

[normal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-friday-gif-12932795

[vernal trench]

Karien bully me bro

The mascot bullying me

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[vernal trench]

Bad @latent parcel bad

Vad

Bad

[normal bay]

It only took 1.5million ordos

Probably

[vernal trench]

All that for a shit gun

[normal bay]

[hollow ibex]

facts

[hollow ibex]

i burned like 3m lol

still no perfect roll

[normal bay]

You're right, should have spent it on autopistols instead

[grand perch]

@tired egret is still happy

[normal bay]

Oh, that's pain

[vernal trench]

[normal bay]

The key is to give up and upgrade a plasma gun that's close enough, then Brunt will give you the optimal one out of spite

[hollow ibex]

coulld be worse

i think path spent 5m

including for one plasma that was perfect... until hardon bricked it during empowerment

[vernal trench]

[grand perch]

[normal bay]

[broken saddle]

what are the best melee and ranged weapons for veteran

[gaunt anchor]

Combat axe <3

[hollow ibex]

rashad specifically

there's a lot of options for ranged

plasma, revolver, recon las, bolter, vraks infantry autogun, laspis

[grizzled pebble]

Bistol?!

[unreal nova]

Don't make me aim my bolt pistol at you and make an example of you. The knoife and Bolt Pistol are also good.

[hollow ibex]

oh yeah, bistol is a thing

tbf not a top pick because of the gun

only because of the blessing

[unreal nova]

Maybe you should eat kraks. >_>

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/a-few-good-men-you-cant-handle-the-truth-jack-nicholson-gif-19436076

[unreal nova]

Or just do it, and you get it as a drop. >_>

[gaunt anchor]

But I was 'ungry sah

[unreal nova]

You can have instant rament instead. Or maybe maggi so you can just snack on them as is.

[broken saddle]

whats rashad my friend?

[tropic halo]

Combat Axe Mk 3

[broken saddle]

thanks

[arctic rampart]

best? I mean the one you have the most fun with. probably meta is dueling sword 4 + pick boltgun or plasma. but so many good weapons for veteran tbh. just never ever pick shredder. personally I'd say non double barrel shotguns are trash but somehow people like those too

[surreal gust]

Don’t pick shredder period

Slug combat shotguns are pretty good though

[hollow ibex]

shredder is ok

shredder grenade that is

[arctic rampart]

I'm a big fan of power sword. its a big sword and it slices and dices, huge horde clear. and when you activate it, it becomes a lightsaber. takes a while to get used to the movement with activation. if you get hit while it's activated it cancels. so you need to be able to dodge/block like a masterclass. rashad is similar power (w/ brutal momentum) but doesnt have the activation gimmick. both these weapons are SLOW so a subset of zoom zoom vets need knife or dueling sword to have fun. cause the others weapons aint them

[surreal gust]

I actually really do not like power sword, feels like I’m babysitting a weapon

[arctic rampart]

man I used to love krak grenades but now I can only take shredders. :\

[surreal gust]

Kraks with the 60 second regen are a lot of fun

[arctic rampart]

everytime I use them the thing dies before it goes off. if I wanted blue balls I'd play headburst psyker

[surreal gust]

I mean I usually only use them against maulers or bigger, but hey

[arctic rampart]

I guess I'm gonna complain about competent teammates? they kill it before krak goes off, those jerks?!

[surreal gust]

Do wish the fuse was a bit shorter

Oh yeah, for that grenade penance of 5 kills without touching the ground, which nade should I use

[tropic notch]

The only situation I’d like kraks is bulwark spam

Other than that I like smoke and shredder

[arctic rampart]

sorry I dont really do penances but https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z6qovt/tips_for_veteran_grenade_penance_please/

[tropic notch]

What

[arctic rampart]

I dunno if thats wrong info, jsut trying to help. If its wrong correct it to help him out 😉

[hollow ibex]

saw a lugger on my team with perpetually red ammo from spraying into hordes all match

[vernal trench]

Kraks are basically useless in high difficulties

[unreal nova]

Only works with frags from memory.

[uncut pebble]

Combat shotguns are decent. They're carried hard by talents like precision strikes.

[sharp epoch]

thats 80% of them

[hollow ibex]

yeah

as much as i feel bad about ogryn getting repeatedly nerfed

it's resulted in a big drop in luggers

which in turn, makes the game much more enjoyable

[sharp epoch]

i mean i just saw ogryn solo a havoc 40 theyre fine

[narrow frost]

was it a solo or a speedrun?

[tame lodge]

[sharp epoch]

solo

[narrow frost]

who was it?

[sharp epoch]

someone named kaudian on the subreddit

[narrow frost]

ahh

that guy

that was a speedrun

[sharp epoch]

isnt it both

solo and speedrun

[narrow frost]

was cool, but not that impressive

[hollow ibex]

cooked up a DB ES build, it's actually very nice

fun to play

effective

[mellow cobalt]

What regiment where your guys' vets apart of?

[sharp epoch]

the the imperial guard

[faint beacon]

Steel Legion

[terse idol]

krieg

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-of-cadia-cadia-battlefleet-gothic-gif-25242351

[unreal nova]

They still show up. Had an oggy basically only shoot one game.

[mellow cobalt]

Lmao

[mellow cobalt]

I headcanon mine was too

[hollow ibex]

yeah it happens, just less frequently thank god

[unreal nova]

Is fine considering it's two other oggies.

And a Vet who doesn't care about ammo... Me.

[tropic notch]

Some penal bastion

[mellow cobalt]

thats a good one

idk if u were joking but genuinely

probably what they were in actually

[tropic notch]

I wanted my vet too look like a reject I’ll post him in a sec

[tropic notch]

@mellow cobalt

[faint beacon]

Look up last chancers

Probably the best penal legion to choose from

[tropic notch]

will do

[merry gale]

make up ur own regiment

[tropic notch]

i also like the base weapons with green it matches my outfit

Like the dbarrel and mk 6 knife

[faint beacon]

@tropic notch can very easily mix and match but they tend to have the penal collar on

[mellow cobalt]

OOHHHH

I like that a lot

[merry gale]

this is my oc regiment

Tellern Desert Crawlers

[faint beacon]

I made my own ages ago: Sulfurius Acid Waders

Basically imagine living on an Acid Rain world 24/7

[grand perch]

so theyre from Delhi?

[faint beacon]

LMAO

I’m more so thinking the theoretical what’s happening on Venus, but their planet is a Death World that constantly has acidic conditions happening

[arctic rampart]

is this the zealot forum? why's everyone RPn 😄

[merry gale]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-blender-ssoggycat-shark-soggy-cat-gif-16395386061673462261

[arctic rampart]

you monster!

[wraith perch]

What's the dump stat for the plasma?

[tropic notch]

I actually like that a lot I think it fits very well with loose cannon

[narrow frost]

71-72 charge 69-68 thermal res

also

[wraith perch]

I have both guides opened but the dump stat is not specified on the range one

Found it, too many guides 😂

[unreal nova]

Also, @tired egret

[arctic rampart]

depends on if you hipfire or charge fire it

use the guide setting stickied in thread default

[hollow ibex]

(you don't charge fire it)

[arctic rampart]

you probably shouldn't, but some people do cause they like that style more

[unreal nova]

You use more ammo for that.

Like 3x more ammo for 2x damage or so.

[arctic rampart]

I didn't say I did

some people like charging it cause its fun for them

[brazen mural]

I am trying to complete the penance for marksman focus. Have been trying a build for exe stance and marksman focus. Using the Vraks Infantry autogun with maniac, flak, dumdum and stripped down. I have never lost as many games as I do now, even when I get decent teammates I feel like we have a soild chance of loosing compared to a build where I use shout instead.

Any tips on how to improve this build? I want to keep exe stance and marksman focus and infantry autogun

When we meet a patrol of flak elites I absolutely destroy them, which is very fun.

[vernal trench]

What the heck is this

[brazen mural]

FIness build for infantry autogun^^

What I am the most unsure about is the top left talent. I feel like I could put those points to better use

[brittle marten]

do you like having 0 stamina?

[brazen mural]

You get a lot back from Duck and dive

[vernal trench]

Something like this but i dont really play autogun at all

[brazen mural]

And I use "get back i the fight" and not "catch a breath", that was a missclick by me

[vernal trench]

Fuck deadshot thats a meme

[hollow ibex]

that's even worse

[brazen mural]

Idk, you get insane good crit chance and you regen the stamina easily with dodgin back and forth

But, deadshot might be why I am loosign, so will try without it as wel

[vernal trench]

Just dont bring it

It really doesnt give that much benefits

if ur out of stamina u get hit ur fucked

[orchid hemlock]

Deadshot is ass, it doesn't function nearly as well as you would think in practice

It works on certain weapons where you want that spike of crit quickly like revolver

But after that you need to invest on stamina curios

[brazen mural]

Hmm, will try it more when I get usedd to not having shout. But from what I am hearing, deadshot migh be why i loose so much, ahah

[vernal trench]

Exec stance has horrible survivability

Ur survivability is almost entirely just from ur skill

Its not an easy ability to run

[orchid hemlock]

Stamina is also a very precious resource for Vet, because you have the lowest stamina regen in the game

[vernal trench]

1 second

[orchid hemlock]

And the lowest stamina regen delay

[vernal trench]

Pick the 0.25s stamina regen instead of 10% tdr at the bototm therr

Bottom there

[faint beacon]

Fun fact psyker has the lowest stamina available but has higher regen than veteran

Hence why Stamina is more valuable on Vet

[brazen mural]

That Is why I ofset it by picking bothe 0.25 stamina regen nodes

[orchid hemlock]

But you don't regen stamina when aiming down sites

[faint beacon]

.25 less than everyone else is still pretty noticeable I’ll state that

[vernal trench]

Psyker has 0.5s

Vet has 1s

[brazen mural]

I know, I loose .75 each sec and .25 per bullet 🤣

[vernal trench]

deadshot with an autogun is just stupid

U dont pick deadshot and even if u do u pick it with single shot weapons

ur draining ur stamina for essentially no reason

Deadshot doesnt stay active when u have no stamina

[orchid hemlock]

Also I think you are approaching this wrong, all you want to do is get the penance right?

All you need to do is grab camouflage and crouch up against a spawning wall and swing

[heavy rover]

deadshot with recon

[brazen mural]

I saw it on youtube and wanted to make it work. With tunnel vision and duck and dive it was okey-ish.

[hollow ibex]

i only do deadshot with recon las mk xii

[hollow ibex]

let me guess which clowntuber you watched. mr. e? reginald? tanner?

[brazen mural]

I do not want to cheese it, the reason I want to try to get the penance is so that I am more incentivized to use other keystones and abilities than the ones i usually use

[faint beacon]

Duck and dive has insane synergy with stripped down that’s it

Outside of that don’t run it

[brazen mural]

Not tanner, I can not stand his way of talking

[brazen mural]

I run stripped down with this as well

[orchid hemlock]

MF is objectively a badly designed node

I don't remember the last time I ever used it

It punishes you for playing the game correctly

[brazen mural]

Oh yes, 100%

[orchid hemlock]

It can somewhat work on high finesse weapons like the Vraks

[brazen mural]

It kinda works with the infantry autoguns, but that is it

[orchid hemlock]

But Vraks is a weapon that benefits sig more as a WS

[vernal trench]

Must be mister e

[brazen mural]

Haha, probably

[vernal trench]

Expert of crushers (he gets crushed by them every game)

"Best book zealot" in the game

Procs until death 4 times in archivum staircase

[brittle marten]

link the video?

[vernal trench]

buddy cant play to save his life when he doesnt have golden toughness

[brittle marten]

wanna watch it

[vernal trench]

Its one of his many streams

[brittle marten]

ah sad

[vernal trench]

U should see the one where the whole team wipes from 1 pox burster

After cheesing their way through archivum