#veteran-class

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gaunt anchor
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armoury guy

vernal trench
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ah

tame lodge
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Peddler my goat

trim steppe
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At least 16% toughness and 20% hp curios are fairly common

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And serviceable

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Ye olden days of finding a 21% hp with +%xp on it were brutal

hollow ibex
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The old system was so much shit

pseudo fiber
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The old system was really bad

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but when path of redemption added basically 200 more plasteel per level the balance of plasteel to gambling was removed a little which made it... not good

faint beacon
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I have hit max boredom to the point I am playing around with Grenadier Gauntlet melee combos

hollow ibex
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Because ogryn KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn

faint beacon
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Ogryn is too strong

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gut it

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LMAO

calm shard
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ogryn has one viable build?

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Nerf it

burnt vortex
faint beacon
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I both like and hate how I started the Bognadoff resurgence in here LMAO

hollow ibex
burnt vortex
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Knows how to use a phone. Smart.

errant carbon
burnt vortex
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Smartphone STC when.

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Or are skull servitors basically cellphones in 40k

errant carbon
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Data-Slates sound like tablets, with varying capabilities depending on their cost/sophistication and the needs of whatever author. There could well be some with smartphone-like size and capability, probably extremely rare and expensive. And covered in greeblies of course, because Imperium.

open fable
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Good evening ^^ Any class you recommend to start playing the red difficulty missions?

terse idol
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Anyone that you're comfortable with

gilded wraith
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All classes are auric viable. Zealot is probably the most forgiving.

hollow ibex
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yeah i'd suggest starting with zealot

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not only is it more forgiving, it teaches important habits

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/skills

gaunt anchor
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finally done 100 missions on veteran

austere mica
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Then it unlearns you

gaunt anchor
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only two more penances till I am freee from vet

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need master of war v and killshot ready

tall torrent
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Did some maths

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CQKZ is usually better than Marksman

hollow ibex
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or maybe you have to have brain damage to main DS to begin with

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chicken or egg question right here

tall torrent
hollow ibex
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well the question is whether you need brain damage to main DS, or if DS causes you to have brain damage

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not 100% a chicken or egg question ig

faint beacon
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Fucking Geto's Question

uncut pebble
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See: Until Death.

faint beacon
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Going from Veteran to Zealot is way easier instead of Vice Versa

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Probably the HARDEST to get into is Psyker cause of the Glass cannon aspect behind it

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Ogryn is by far the easiest though to get into

fading zinc
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Zealot->Veteren->Psyker

uncut pebble
faint beacon
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They dont have many DR nodes/talents outside of one versus Zealot and Vets insanely strong one

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but they still fall under that squishy

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However

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they're still insanely powerful

tall torrent
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veteran gets 1~2 TDR nodes that matter

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but more like just 1

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zealot has stronger TDR than veteran

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with better toughness gain talents than veteran

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and better base stats than veteran

vernal trench
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Yes

tall torrent
vernal trench
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Frog do u even play zealot or vet bro

uncut pebble
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Second Wind is the only one that's even remotely comparable.

vernal trench
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U said u can get cooldown better on infiltrate than shroudfield

tall torrent
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second wind is broken

uncut pebble
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EWEW and voice of terra are basically useless.

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Blood redemption is ok.

tall torrent
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yea they don't get used, the one that does get used is better than veteran's

uncut pebble
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You said talents.

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With an s.

tall torrent
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yea

uncut pebble
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Second Wind is comparable, the others are not.

tall torrent
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vicious offering is also pretty good

uncut pebble
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Not when you consider point taxes.

tall torrent
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zealot has more & better non-kill-based toughness talents

uncut pebble
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That's 4 points to grab vicious offering.

tall torrent
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that already is better than veteran

uncut pebble
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No???

vernal trench
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Passive toughness regen > active toughness regen in a lot of scenarios

uncut pebble
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Oh wait you don't mean point tax, nvm.

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Yeah I will say passive toughness gen is good but it does not have the magnitude you need to matter much.

vernal trench
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I mean even if u compare book to shout book is way better in toughness regen

uncut pebble
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2.5% per second, if you have 3 enemies within 8m is pretty poor generation to rely on.

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Voice of Terra is just flat out worse o4b.

vernal trench
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Second wind alone tho is broken to have

uncut pebble
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Blood redemption is 2.5% more toughness on melee kills, not really anything to write home about.

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Stalwart also gets an honorable mention with its unlisted 2% buff.

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Vicious offering has the magnitude you want but the issue with it is point tax.

tall torrent
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second wind alone is better than veteran's whole toughness gain kit

uncut pebble
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So I'll stick with my point that second wind is the only one comparable to vet talents due to its magnitude and activation.

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The others do not compare in the slightest.

uncut pebble
narrow frost
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@faint beacon you on

vernal trench
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30% toughness for elite or specialist kill on vet is actually really good only problem is ur not gonna have time to turn around to kill some elite if ur already running for ur life

faint beacon
narrow frost
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share your VA build?

faint beacon
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Uhhhhhhhhhhh

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which one LMAO

vernal trench
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Whats va

narrow frost
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whatever you use

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idc

surreal gust
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My brain is confuzled

vernal trench
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Voice acting?

faint beacon
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Im currently using a smoke VA combo one moment

uncut pebble
# tall torrent fine "talent~~s~~"

Sorry I'm being kinda picky about it but I find that people talking about zealout toughness gen being good typically never consider that the only good node is second wind.

narrow frost
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ooh

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fun

uncut pebble
vernal trench
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A

surreal gust
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Which one?

tall torrent
uncut pebble
faint beacon
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Ainz if you got the pro gamer flick aim you'll enjoy the build a shit ton

tall torrent
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so it's hard to not think it's too strong

surreal gust
faint beacon
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but you can very easily replace the melee with taxe it works just as well

narrow frost
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I'll probably use shovel or taxe

vernal trench
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Shovel!

surreal gust
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Shovel!

uncut pebble
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4% on ranged kill? Utter trash.

tall torrent
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might have to give shovel like a B- rating in guide

vernal trench
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It actually is usable in havocs tho

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Just not as well

uncut pebble
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Vet gets 5% on every kill, stacking with base 5% on melee kill...

surreal gust
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I like shovel but it is a very B tier weapon

tall torrent
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yea uncanny + SC/AoN

tall torrent
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pure kill based is just not as good as having a strong non-kill-based option

uncut pebble
grand perch
vernal trench
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Whats voice of terra again

uncut pebble
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5% on every kill, plus base 5% on melee kill, vs 4% on ranged kill.

vernal trench
faint beacon
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Again Mix and match to what you feel comfy with but this is what I run

uncut pebble
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Also note that o4b is 2 points, voice of terra is 4 points.

faint beacon
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@narrow frost

narrow frost
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Thanks

uncut pebble
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And voice of terra competes with restoring faith, which is effectively 20% more hp.

narrow frost
surreal gust
faint beacon
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tell me how that goes or what you plan to swap on it and I can probably throw something together cause my other build looks like this

surreal gust
uncut pebble
faint beacon
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@narrow frost If you're wanting to use Agri IX more over melee etc

vernal trench
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Mf

faint beacon
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Tunnel Vision makes O4B give more Toughness you love to see it

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It needs a buff but its genuinely good on VA rifles

faint beacon
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the middle path is still very good

grand perch
faint beacon
surreal gust
grand perch
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for what specific BPs

uncut pebble
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Vigilants can't kill maniac worth a damn, need the rending.

faint beacon
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Helps with that

narrow frost
uncut pebble
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It's like 20 headshots to drop a dreg rager without maniac + elite + rending strikes.

faint beacon
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And Taxe technically if you want to rock that

faint beacon
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fun fact that + MF stacks with obviously everything else

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lets the VA actually instantly drop a Rager

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holy shit

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Thats if it crits though

grand perch
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i was gonna say my graia VII vigi doesnt struggle so much with ragers

faint beacon
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Vigilant Autos

grand perch
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much rather have extra ogryn damage

uncut pebble
faint beacon
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The like

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shit must have talents on Vet that I can think of

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Precision Strikes, Iron Will, Demo stockpile or team

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thats like 3 I can think of atm

uncut pebble
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Precision strikes, iron will, grenade regen.

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Always and forever.

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I REALLY wish vet had other tdr talents so iron will wasn't so necessary.

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Close quarters whatever it is up top is cool and all but it isn't enough.

tall torrent
faint beacon
tall torrent
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Precision strikes is not must have

uncut pebble
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Especially because there's always a fucking stealth zealout somewhere in your queue so you're always gonna be one man down.

faint beacon
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the fuck does veteran have after that outside of like Golden Toughness on VOC

tall torrent
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There’re niche builds that don’t need precision strikes

uncut pebble
tall torrent
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For example shovel + DB shotgun

faint beacon
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incredibly fucking boring

uncut pebble
faint beacon
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Actually not really no

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SKC makes up for it

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Yes its nice to have that extra damage

uncut pebble
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Brute forcing armor, I'm not too concerned with, because uncanny.

faint beacon
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but like SKC will help regardless

vernal trench
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Whats precision strikes again i forgot

faint beacon
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30% Weakspot Damage increase

vernal trench
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Ah

uncut pebble
faint beacon
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I generally use it a shit ton just cause if im not popping heads im not playing Vet

surreal gust
faint beacon
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Its a better option

vernal trench
faint beacon
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but CK if you CAN KILL WITH IT OFTEN

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is a good choice

vernal trench
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If u tell me what they do ill remember ehere it is and know what it is tho

surreal gust
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I’ll ask again about skill distribution once I get into making builds

uncut pebble
faint beacon
uncut pebble
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Mfw I can 2 burst a fucking reaper with agri vigilant:

faint beacon
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Elite + Maniac my beloved

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covering the things I need to kill like Gunners and Reaper whilst also giving me a bit of extra damage towards ragers

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Also Agri IX Exec stance build

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At least what I run

tall torrent
uncut pebble
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The only problem I have with running vigilants is that enemies suppress way too easily from them for some reason, so I pop one guy and everyone around him instantly ducks.

uncut pebble
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I could do the same thing with ilas and get 4 kills before they bother hiding from me.

faint beacon
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I mean if I saw my friends head just fucking vanish with one sound of a round ringing out I'd immediately duck for cover

tall torrent
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The burst gun in question having hitreg issues for a year and a half

faint beacon
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WE ADAPT 💪

tall torrent
faint beacon
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I mean im on right now im just cooking something cause I left a match after watching a Zealot

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well be a Zealot

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I got destroyed by 30 ragers and they kinda just let it happen and basically idiot proofed out of it with Relic Blade

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before instantly getting killed from Gunners

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LMAO

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(playing Ogryn btw)

uncut pebble
tall torrent
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Not sure when I’ll hit lv1k on veteran

faint beacon
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Last I checked

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you were 930

tall torrent
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Oh I’m pretty far then

faint beacon
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you got a tinsy bit of grinding to go

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but its not lengthy

tall torrent
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I haven’t played much recently

faint beacon
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I'd say like 5 days of Veteran gameplay easily you'll get there

vernal trench
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Levels do be hard to come by these days

faint beacon
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I do play a wee bit too much

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but the game is shitty but fun

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thus I play it

vernal trench
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Damn

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Poxbreakers

surreal gust
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I’ll get mods for the game at some point

tall torrent
faint beacon
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Yes

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its the 1st Anni bundle

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Vanguard bundle PC exclusive

tall torrent
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Oh

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Cool

faint beacon
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came with the 21st Cosmetics

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Headtaker is another frame thats exclusive

tall torrent
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What’s headtaker from

faint beacon
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uhhhh one second

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oh same bundle

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Vanguard Bundle

tall torrent
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Huh

faint beacon
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aka another PC Exclusive Frame

tall torrent
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Damn I did not remember lol

faint beacon
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that and the 21st Insignia

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are all PC exclusives

tall torrent
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I’m using blind justice frame + 21st recon insignia + poxbreaker

faint beacon
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Blind justice kinda just goes hard so I cant really blame anyone using the PC exclusive stuff now

vernal trench
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How do u even remember the frame names wtf

surreal gust
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Because he can check

faint beacon
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If you played the game before

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Nov 17th 2023

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you would get this on PC only

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Mainly cause XBOX Got 40 USD worth of Aquilas to spend on whatever they wished

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and PC players WERE NOT HAPPY

surreal gust
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Gotta go back in time to get darktide early

faint beacon
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So-

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PC players get the Exclusive Moebian 21st Sets

atomic void
faint beacon
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You get to be actual nobodies!

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who die immediately in the trailers

crimson pebble
surreal gust
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Yay

vernal trench
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So thats where that backpack came from

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I remember it being from somewhere but couldnt remember where

atomic void
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i bought deluxe edition or whatever on pc and they gave enough aquillas to be a full set Prayge2

vernal trench
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And i had it for the longest time

austere mica
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I spent the preorder bonus aquilas on two dumb hats

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Only one of which I regret

vernal trench
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Wish i had the preorder shit tho

austere mica
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I in no wait regret the standalone psyker rogue trader hat

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That shit is peak

atomic void
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some dude is wilding in pics and vids

faint beacon
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Admittedly I kinda avoided wearing it for sometime cause it never interested me but the full set with the stock Moebian Rebreather goes REALLY HARD

austere mica
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The shoulders are goofy big

faint beacon
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Extra Flak armor 🚬

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Honestly fuck with Bulkier armor so I like it

crimson pebble
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gale likes his guardmans chunky question mark

faint beacon
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I'd honestly take pictures of the 53rd set to compare the 3 regiments we know of so far

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but my ass is not gonna grind the next 2 weeks of havoc only just to get it

tall torrent
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I’ve settled for these
For now

surreal gust
faint beacon
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if anyone has the 53rd Vet set respond to that cause again I am not fucking grinding for it LMAO

tall torrent
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I can send u later when I’m on

faint beacon
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Welp looks like im playing Black ops 3 zombies tomorrow seeing a mod team managed to port over Die Rise 🚬

faint beacon
tall torrent
faint beacon
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Im honestly curious what made their armor kinda dull out

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I mean clothing wise it makes sense seeing its worn down

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but the armor losing its blue is interesting

grand perch
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i like the frame that includes a longlas, just to be a tease KEKW_ogryn

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also i tend to play marksman style

grand perch
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do eet

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no idea what a 40k breacher axe does but it sounds like an inbetween caxe and taxe

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want

errant carbon
tall torrent
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Rashad but 2-handed

grand perch
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oh, beeg axe

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not sure if want

faint beacon
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seeing its well Nurgle

terse idol
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Many of the guys just lose their nose and got like chaos symbols carved onto their head

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for sure they probably spray painted their armour or scraped off the paint to be more recognizable yee

tall torrent
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Judging by their lines

terse idol
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they should grow some

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tentacles or something fr

faint beacon
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Just rust their armor

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literally its that simple

fiery raft
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tetanus

grand perch
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Ceaseless discharge

stoic thorn
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The only actual nurgle imagery I see on the 6th is the trappers mask

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And the gunners eyes

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If it weren't for those and a few other small details they could be undivided

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And also the cult and all

terse idol
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yeah that's what I was thinking

uncut pebble
fiery raft
vernal trench
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new cosmetics dropped

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knife is cool

limpid wagon
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Funny shovel memes aside, what melee weapon do you pair with the Helbore?

dry cloak
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or powersword for that matter

grand perch
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Or the always popular rashad axe.

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Though that might require deciding if you want to invest up to trench fighter drill on the right side or lean more into left side marksmanship with helbore

granite pine
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what blessings and perks do i put on the infantry autogun and which mark?

limpid wagon
pseudo fiber
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But memes aside shovels are viable especially the mk1 with the helbore having hotshot (I think that's its name the +50 cleave blessing) since that applies to melee weapons

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For some reason

limpid wagon
pseudo fiber
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No those things still work last I checked.
Same with lethal proximity on bolt pistols with shredders

limpid wagon
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Nice.

uncut pebble
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I dont remember infantry models by number, but its vraks that's considered the best in terms of raw dps.

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Agri is better for general purpose, though.

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And columnus isn't used like at all.

granite pine
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what blessings and perks do i put on the infantry las gun? is infernus good on here too?

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oh god why does it attack soo slow

tame lodge
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You probably have the heavy variant

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2b is the faster one

granite pine
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what is the infantry las gun better at than any of the other las guns cuz this is horrible

tame lodge
fiery raft
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any specific builds to try?

tame lodge
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And you should try to click heads

fiery raft
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okay

tame lodge
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It has high Maniac and finesse damage

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It's usually headhunter+ Deadly Accurate/Ghost

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With Flak Maniacs

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The mk9 can use Opening Salvo

fiery raft
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ill give the 2b a shot

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ty

tame lodge
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Bring a melee that is good against carapace and Monstrosities

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And mind the reverse fall off on the ilas

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The closer you are to your target, the less damage it'll take

fiery raft
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oh, thats good to know

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isnt there a havoc build around the ilas?

vernal trench
granite pine
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i had the kantrael mk 9

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it felt horrible

fiery raft
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why's that?

fiery raft
tame lodge
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Used to be the best one or something

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Now it's the 2b

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Iirc

fiery raft
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i see

north pebble
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is the power sword still viable? the charge just goes away every time im on a thick horde and one groaner taps me nowadays

fiery raft
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yeah its good

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grab power cycler, that'd help

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mk6 powersword you can cancel the charge animation with blocking

tame lodge
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Or top 4 if you rate knife higher than the psword

north pebble
# fiery raft grab power cycler, that'd help

i mean i have brutal momentum and cycler 4, but it always tends to lose the charge even if i haven't done 3 swings yet. a small nudge from an enemy will cancel my sword charge out instantly. i tend to go down really fast because my sword loses power in the middle of a horde

north pebble
fiery raft
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mk6 is the better one

fiery raft
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brutal momentum especially should let you just shred thru hordes

north pebble
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im looking for a forum post about it hold on

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seems to affect other weapons too

normal bay
tropic halo
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So it is actually a bug? hmmgryn

north pebble
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oh. it makes sense now. i shelved the sword after awhile after experiencing the sword losing charge more often than before. tried using it today again and still had the same result.

Gotta love the duelling sword as a vet but id rather do horde clear with the sword from time to time

normal bay
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To my knowledge. No clue where to dig up the info but I remember something about it actually being a bug

tropic halo
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I might be used to the powered sword to lose charge when getting hit but i always try to charge it before i get close to a horde and also always block push

north pebble
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felt different months ago, an update must have broken it or something, i have games where i was taking hits but the sword was still turned on

uncut pebble
north pebble
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must be a silent nerf then

normal bay
uncut pebble
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I'm like 99% sure power sword losing charge on hit is not a bug.

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But that would require me to get on my pc and skim patch notes to confirm and I'm not gonna do that rn.

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Unlocked and loaded dropped Sept 26th. That post is of Oct 10th. Power sword still loses charge if you get hit afaik.

normal bay
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Worringly, this is from a 3 months old reddit post. So this was 5 months ago staregryn

uncut pebble
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If it hasn't been "fixed" then power sword losing charge is intentional.

normal bay
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It's most power weapons though, not just Power sword, right?

uncut pebble
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Methinks they mightve bugged other power weapons, like paul, crusher, and hammer when they dropped that update.

uncut pebble
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The only other weapon that can lose its charge is fgs and only if you get hit during the special animation.

normal bay
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Power sword has to suffer

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Yet Relic blade exists

uncut pebble
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Yes.

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Relic blade is good.

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Power sword used to have 13 swings of bromentum horde deletion and be able to munch crushers back to back.

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It deserved to be lobotomized.

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That being said, it should get a rework to use relic blades heat system.

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Base damage should be buffed, empowered damage should be nerfed, mobility should be buffed.

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It is a sword, it should function like one and not like a paperweight when it's off.

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And last I checked, holding a sword doesn't turn your legs to lead.

crimson pebble
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it still can mulch crushers just not as fast

uncut pebble
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Yeah but you have to turn it back on between each one now.

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Used to, you could click it once and kill 4 crushers.

sleek garden
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Tried to bring frags, combat knife and an infantry lasgun with exy stance last night

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Didn't go too poorly

tame lodge
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You pretty much covered all bases

sleek garden
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It worked all right

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The only reason I went down was because I got swarmed and got by a trapper

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I had used all my frags

fiery raft
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what's your talent tree look like

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i wanna try something like that in havoc

sleek garden
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you wouldn't like it it's a lot of left skill tree stuff

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It has marksmans focus and exy stance and longshot

fiery raft
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that's what im looking for man

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something new

sleek garden
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I see

fiery raft
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i recently tried infiltrate and found it interesting

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not really sure how to use correctly besides just stealthing objectives

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and as get out of jail free

sleek garden
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Sprint at shooter lines while invisible drop a smoke at your feet when you're there and start whacking

fiery raft
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what do you mean?

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oh

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i havent used smoke grenade

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you recommend a talent tree?

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with both

sleek garden
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I did something like it yeah

fiery raft
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ill give it a shot

sleek garden
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It wasn't really the best

fiery raft
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i was doing with kraks

sleek garden
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But it was fun

fiery raft
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but i kinda hate kraks

sleek garden
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I used smokes because I like not getting shot

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No probably not

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I stay in auric

fiery raft
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oh

sleek garden
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Havoc wasn't really fun

fiery raft
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im just getting into havoc, i like the weird builds people do

sleek garden
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I did it got a havoc 40 done and quit it

sleek garden
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But it runs off landing nonstop headshots on shooters and elites

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And I mean nonstop

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Because if you aren't popping 2k damage headshots over and over you are doing 100 damage to a scab bomber with 800 health

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And not staggering

sleek garden
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don't care

vernal trench
sleek garden
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I like to stand there and mow down hordes of shooters with a gun and not get one bursted by a single shooter from behind at full health

vernal trench
sleek garden
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That's how I lost my last attempted 40

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I was last man standing after clearing an entire room and as I walked out a single shooter on a platform out of bounds above me shot me in the back

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I didn't want to deal with that anymore

unreal nova
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Different strokes for different folks, you know. What one finds fun is another's chore.

fiery raft
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i tried my hand at an infil thing

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would this work out?

sleek garden
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You have desperado

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Looks good to me

balmy flume
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I still need to do a 35-40 Havoc one last time for TS

#

Then I will just be rolling low Havocs

#

High level Havoc borderlines on BS at times...

#

The AI doesn't just hate you, it actively and maliciously plots against you like scrapcode

sleek garden
#

I had a havoc 38 with 2 chaos spawns a scab captain and a horde rush at the same time

balmy flume
#

Oof

sleek garden
#

We lost in like 20 seconds

vernal trench
vernal trench
#

Shit was fun af

fiery raft
#

im thinking revolver, but i just have a weird urge to use infantry las

vernal trench
#

I mean what do u wanna run

fiery raft
#

thats why i wanna try a havoc build with ilas

vernal trench
#

U can run anything tbf

vernal trench
fiery raft
#

well not ilas infiltrate

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just ilas

vernal trench
#

Ah

fiery raft
#

infiltrate is just experimenting rn

vernal trench
#

I mean u can run it with shout just fine

fiery raft
#

well what's the exe stance build look like

#

shout is cool but i run it so much

vernal trench
#

Yea exec stance ilas works well

fiery raft
#

what does the tree look like?

#

i've only ever built bolter exe

vernal trench
#

Uhhh

#

I only got a hellbore exec stance build

tame lodge
#

Same thing

fiery raft
#

what's the build on that?

#

especialyl if its the same thing, ive been meaning to try both at some point

#

i dont give the las weapons any love

#

like, at all

minor stump
#

what do you all prefer to dump or split on plasma gun? charge seems like it'd be minimal gains 60-80 but idk

vernal trench
#

Not entirely sure

#

Just wooped it up from memory

minor stump
latent parcel
vernal trench
#

Hi

#

Stompty dompty

latent parcel
#

chonky donkey wheres ur duo havoc 40 clear

vernal trench
latent parcel
vernal trench
#

The last 10 maps have been all DOG

tame lodge
vernal trench
#

Ive won like 7 40s this week and papa definitely has more

#

Still no good map

latent parcel
#

sounds like a skill issue.

vernal trench
#

U right

latent parcel
vernal trench
vernal trench
#

U and ur not shirtless ogryn

latent parcel
#

true

vernal trench
vernal trench
latent parcel
#

maybe later

vernal trench
#

Now

fiery raft
vernal trench
# fiery raft ty man

Might be better spending 2 pointe going down middle for the toughness regen as well

vernal trench
fiery raft
#

alright

#

good point

pearl granite
#

hmm... which ninja village is this from? kek

pseudo fiber
#

John Blanche... Ingham?

#

There it is

terse idol
tame lodge
#

Or would it be thick grass village

#

Jungle grass village

mellow cobalt
#

fem loose cannon x male seer psyker tbh

surreal gust
#

Voice shipping

#

Interesting

mellow cobalt
#

theyre characters

#

i love their dynamic

#

"you're not gonna do somethin weird to my brain are you?"

"oh of course not, who even has time to look for something that small!"

faint beacon
#

Male LC and Female Savant have an interaction when he takes ammo when others are low

“I hope I won’t catch you looting again”

“Oh you won’t- catch me that is.”

“Ugh, you never change do you.”

“Never have, lacking something called a role model, care to try that?”

wild vortex
#

no shot this is legit right?

austere mica
#

It’s possible

#

Some people are simply insane

wild vortex
#

without that exp bug/exploit thing?

austere mica
#

You also have their steam handle and can thus hours check them

barren nimbus
#

What are the odds he’s completely dog shit

austere mica
#

Not zero

#

Celine is a celebrity for a reason

dry cloak
wild vortex
#

like, a not insignificant amount worse than me

barren nimbus
tall torrent
narrow frost
#

rule #2 titles, levels, emblems, and scoreboard dont mean anything

grand perch
#

good players have bad matches too

wild vortex
#

say, is Close Order Drill worth giving up for On Your Toes

tall torrent
wild vortex
#

Rashad/DB shotgun

#

was using Kraks for penance.. if I have to swap to Frags I can't take On Your Toes then

shell spire
#

Killshot Ready is so ass

#

Last one I gotta do

tall torrent
brazen mural
#

How do you guys build your powersword?'

#

I like mark 6

tropic notch
brazen mural
#

I am using powercycler with brutal momentum and dmg vs unyelding and maniac

tropic notch
#

I love my toughness sources

brazen mural
#

I belive i can 2 shot a crusher on damnation

wild vortex
#

Hmm wouldn't losing Superiority Complex mess with breakpoints

tropic notch
#

Are there any hidden things about born leader? @tall torrent

tall torrent
tropic notch
tall torrent
#

Just crit more

tropic notch
wild vortex
tropic notch
#

Or just cohesion

tall torrent
#

Crusher breakpoints kinda don’t matter all that much

brazen mural
tall torrent
#

When u can have 40% crit chance in melee combat pretty easily against them

brazen mural
#

flak makes sense

wild vortex
#

In that case I'd rather take On Your Toes + Frag than Close Order + Confirmed Kill

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

@narrow frost you see the two leaked models of melees that immediately got pulled yet?

wild vortex
#

Zealots on my teams seem to have an annoying habit of getting the killing blow on elites I'm taking down

tall torrent
#

@narrow frost you’re gonna witness peak

tropic notch
narrow frost
#

what is it

tall torrent
faint beacon
narrow frost
#

got it gale

tall torrent
wild vortex
#

The hammers

#

God i wish that turns out to be true

#

I would nut

brazen mural
#

How does an autogun build with focus fire and exe stance look? I have tried one, but I feel like I lack thoughness regen. My only sources are through Tunnel vision and confirmed kill. Maybe exhilirating takedown or out for blood is better?

tall torrent
#

I’m more excited about the other one tho

faint beacon
#

2 handed Power Axe…

#

And one with a single bladed side…

#

It’s so fucking peak

wild vortex
#

Rather than next patch

tall torrent
atomic void
tall torrent
brazen mural
atomic void
#

loudly!

tall torrent
#

It’d be really funny if it ends up veteran exclusive

#

But also well deserved

#

Zealot got relic blade

atomic void
#

ig vets do need a special melee that isnt power sword

#

ye

#

but i mostly play zealot so im selfish

tall torrent
#

It’d be extra funny if it ends up zealot exclusive

atomic void
#

my other charaters didnt even hit 30

tall torrent
#

Because then it’s just Rashad 24/7 forever ever on veteran

brazen mural
#

Are there any focus fire enthusiasts? If so who can I ask? 😄

tall torrent
#

It’s very generalist though

atomic void
tall torrent
#

U can run it with most weapons and be fine

tall torrent
tall torrent
brazen mural
#

Does out for blood work on shooting?

atomic void
#

HALLBERDS

tall torrent
brazen mural
#

Yes please, give us a halbeard

tropic notch
brazen mural
tropic notch
#

You can use revolver, plasma, bolter, bolt pistol, and d barrel if you want a different option

tall torrent
broken spade
brazen mural
broken spade
#

peak

raw needle
#

nah axe is for zealot
vet gets a new db mark

tropic notch
brazen mural
#

Aight, thx 😄

tall torrent
atomic void
#

shovel's next

tropic notch
broken spade
#

the melee weapons i haven't ever played with are like, shovel and shock maul

#

I dont even know what shock maul looks like

atomic void
#

i played few games with shock maul and said nope

#

unique weapon but not for me

broken spade
#

I just wasn't playing around the time they got added and never got around to it

atomic void
#

keep in mind i didnt run it the "meta" way so u never know maybe im sleeping on some beast

#

but i literally never see anyone play it

tall torrent
tropic notch
broken spade
#

I don't know what the swings look like at all.
I've literally never spectated someone who used it

#

maybe i'll build one next

tropic notch
#

Meta for smaul is skullcursher and hammerblow right?

#

Shock maul looks so cool but is just ok

faint beacon
#

You kinda have to have a feel for it

#

But they both suffer against unyielding

atomic void
#

that's fair

faint beacon
#

They’re both decent choices though

atomic void
#

ill drill it in in psychanium

faint beacon
#

They’re not bad or good

#

They’re as the kids say

#

“Mid”

atomic void
#

lmao

#

as long as a weapon is fun ill use it

tall torrent
#

They’re B- tier melee

faint beacon
#

Heavy sword being like

#

Oh fuck A- on vet?

#

It’s really good all around

tall torrent
#

5th best melee on veteran

faint beacon
#

Just you REALLY notice carapace

tame lodge
faint beacon
#

It fucking suffers against carapace

#

But it’s a really good pick

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

It's aight
I'll just die to 15 of them

#

I can handle 1 or 3 or 5gigachad1

#

Ok maybe not 5

faint beacon
#

Fucking hate

#

When the game decides it’s your time to suffer

#

Gives you max stickiness with ragers and next thing you know

#

30 of them are barreling towards you

#

Heat seeking death missiles

burnt vortex
#

throw a nade at your feet

tame lodge
#

Raaaauuugh

faint beacon
#

Issue you’re running Kraks or smokes

#

Or just playing a class in general that can’t deal with the sheer and utter spam

burnt vortex
#

run to a teammate and make it their problem too KEKW_ogryn

tropic notch
#

Yeah clutching with mercy killer vet can be hard with tons of area denial and ragers, mutants, trappers pushing you

#

I wish I wasn’t punished for taking shredder nade

tall torrent
#

You just shouldn’t rly be using mercy killer KEKW_ogryn

tropic notch
#

I mean technically yeah but rip point efficiency

dusty sapphire
#

Is the suppression immunity from determined worth it?

tropic notch
#

Are you saying i should run precog and uncanny? ch_brittishsmirk

tame lodge
dusty sapphire
tame lodge
#

Because shotguns, laspistols, plasma are immune

tame lodge
tall torrent
tall torrent
#

I’m saying mercy killer is not so strong that it’s worth running serrated blade for

tropic notch
#

What would be the other blessings combo without mk?

brazen mural
#

I like the Precog and riposte

#

not saying that it is the best, just what i find fun 😄

tame lodge
#

Helbores are also pretty much stable under fire

#

So I guess Infantry Lasguns and Vigilants would like determined

tropic notch
brazen mural
tropic notch
#

I always thought vets knife was mercy killer and uncanny

#

@tall torrent what setup would do more damage?

brazen mural
#

I feel like haymaker and executor is not seen much

tall torrent
burnt vortex
#

flesh tester Servoskull

tame lodge
tropic notch
broken spade
#

that, along with any combination of riposte/precog/uncanny are all valid options imo

#

just depends on how consistent or how much burst damage you want

#

should probably just try all of them

brazen mural
#

I agree, I can not see a good reason to pick them. Maybe executor, but I probably loose the stack if I miss a weakspot, and that will happen with a fast weapon

tame lodge
#

You can "hit" air with Executor

#

Just don't hit bodies

brazen mural
#

Ahh

#

Is it the same with shread and decimator?

tame lodge
#

Nope

#

Those you can't miss at all

brazen mural
#

Oki, that is probably why I assumed executor worked that way

tall torrent
#

Executor is ok for mk6 knife

tame lodge
#

Perfectly angled heavies

#

🗣️

brazen mural
#

Hot shot on hellbore must be a fan service to the Krig-enjoyers

radiant chasm
#

Even mk6 doesn’t have the cleave to make haymaker worth it

brazen mural
#

What blessings do people enjoy on the shovel?

tropic notch
#

Mk 1

tame lodge
#

I'm a personal enjoyer of Trauma Skullcrusher

#

Funny stagger

tropic notch
#

You should try it with the build I gave you as well

brazen mural
#

Good idea

#

Smokes are scaring me though, any tips for how to get consistent use of them?

austere mica
tame lodge
#

Stay inside the smoke

austere mica
#

Toss when you’re getting shot to hell or want to push an open space to a gun line

#

Just make sure they aren’t inside the smoke as well

#

Gunners will keep firing

tame lodge
#

So throw at your feet or where you'll be in 2 seconds

brazen mural
#

aight

#

thx for the tips

brazen mural
#

Rising heat and gets hot with flak maniac?

narrow frost
tall torrent
brazen mural
#

So close

tame lodge
#

No one expects the unarmored plasma gun

brazen mural
#

truth

#

I could be tricked into putting carapace or unyilding, but unarmored on the wall pircing gun makes no sense, haha

errant carbon
#

When you give some enemies no armor and some enemies Flak Armor, but give the unarmored ones more HP and most weapons the same damage vs both so the unarmored ones are just plain tougher

brazen mural
#

Yep

#

I wish the bolter still did 0.75 to flak

#

Makes more sense, as It is supposed to kill infected, unarmored, unyilding and maniac. Not flak and carapace

tall torrent
#

Pretty sure boltgun can pierce flak and carapace no problem in lore

#

It’s only not made to kill power armor

brazen mural
#

Yes, it can and it is still better vs. those types i mentioned

#

I am a bit of a fan when most wepons fall into a rock, paper scissor category. Instead of it being all of those at the same time. Or in a case where a weapon Is a problem solver, aka bolter mag dump, it is still limited by ammo, slow equip and bad reload.

FS has hit the mark on many weapons with this^^, but some weapons are to good vs. to many things or just to bad vs. to many things and not good enough at what it is supposed to be good at.

#

Some mario wepons is fine, but then they have to be C tier against all and not S

atomic void
#

counter point, the bolter feels fucking amazing to use

#

and huge part of that is that it deletes all threats if u land your shots

errant carbon
#

Yeah the Bolter is supposed to be strong against everything short of power armor, with the drawbacks being offloaded entirely to things other than Armor Damage Modifiers. Rock Paper Scissors type balancing is well and good but it also has to make sense and/or follow the established lore, which is a tricky spot to be in. The tabletop RPGs made some weapons Just Plain Better than others and balanced it by making them rarer/more expensive, which definitely doesn't apply in this game

spring rose
#

with a beefy ass sound and recoil it better have some armor pen.

errant carbon
#

Would have been interesting to have an alternate universe Darktide that follows RPG convention: Performance-wise a Bolter is just better than a Lasgun (except magazine & total ammo at least), but if you blow all your Requisition on a Bolter you won't be able to bring Carapace Armor or a fancy Auspex or Krak Grenades or whatever.

faint beacon
#

I say we make every weapon borderline useless and make sedition a struggle to complete

pseudo fiber
#

40k tarkov

calm shard
#

I should run grenade spam build but with smokes to piss off my 3 other teammates

#

oh there's even an enhanced blitz malestrom up

#

sick

dim tiger
#

i am honestly curious to see what happens if i equip this

#

do i just barely move ?

vernal trench
calm shard
#

67 smoke grenades

#

I couldn't see anything the whole game but also I don't think I got shot even once?

#

So works out

brazen mural
#

Amazing to use is a good argument. I think most cool weapons should be good. Like the power/force swords, chain weapons, thunder, plasma and bolt weapons should probably be A-S tier as it just feels right, they are the most "Warhammer" weapons that we have. It just feels better if there are some clear drawbacks.

What could be good solutions for the bolter?

Problem with cutting ammo from bolter, is that I just makes you even more reliant on survivalist, so that might not be a good solution. However carrying 9+ magazines of bolter ammunition must be heavy, haha

calm shard
#

bolter is already an option in the meta tho

#

why would it need changes

#

it also has clear drawbacks

#

the recoil, and poor ammo economy

austere mica
#

Long reload long draw time

calm shard
#

also slow draw time and reload too yeah

austere mica
#

Bolter is fine

ancient path
#

whats the thoughts on the new outfit

brazen mural
#

I feel like it has a pretty good ammo economy. Not as crazy good as lasguns with shock trooper, but still good. 95 shots that in most cases delete your enemy in 1 shot is pretty good.

brazen mural
#

The fact that we can not look at our char in-mission ruins my temptation to buy character skins

faint beacon
#

Extremely taste dependent

#

I’m not a fan so I view it as slop

ancient path
#

yeah idk how i feel about these outfits

#

my tiny phone preview made me think it was cooler

surreal gust
brazen mural
#

If the skin shop had acces to all skins at all times it also would be more tempting to buy smth

surreal gust
#

Yeah but fatshark disagrees

winter sluice
#

i just want savlar to be back on rotation

calm shard
#

Choice paralysis is a real thing

brazen mural
#

Yes, they have disagreed with the community on many things. Just fixing the skin shop and mission board left. The fact that we can not pick a specific mission with a specific modifier is very annoying. Could give us - 20% rewards or something

pseudo fiber
#

screamin belllll

brazen mural
#

To bad they made a gamplay loop I love in my faviourite universe

surreal gust
#

Eh, it’s just cosmetics, I can wait

austere mica
#

It’s also largely out of their hands

#

The shop is managed by Level Infinite

surreal gust
#

All bow before the power of the investors

spring rose
#

shop managed by a gacha publisher blah

mellow cobalt
#

Loose cannon in a toy store: I WANT THESE KARKERS

tropic notch
#

Loose cannon is my favorite because of his surrounded lines

#

“YEEHAWWWW”

#

“WOOOOHOOO”

#

“We’re surrounded? YES”

tame lodge
#

Real

gaunt anchor
#

Loose cannon is peak

unreal nova
#

All is important. Hyper gremlin.

mellow cobalt
#

TRUE

faint beacon
#

Literally the difference between Male and Female

#

Male is just an overall prick with a slight soft side

#

Female is- yeah

mellow cobalt
#

Goblin

mellow cobalt
arctic umbra
#

F O R C A D I A !

unreal nova
faint beacon
#

I mean outside of that she's fucking vicious

#

like way more of a prick than Male is by a landslide

unreal nova
#

She has both sides. She cares to a degree but likes to act all nutty mass murderer at times. Then you get the gremlin moments.

uncut pebble
hollow ibex
uncut pebble
#

Most cutthroat lines are good.

#

I just don't like his bitching about Cadia nonstop.

faint beacon
#

She whines far less about Cadia

tall torrent
#

@faint beacon can testify my veteran basically doesn't yap about cadia

faint beacon
#

if you're tagging 24/7 he rarely bitches

calm shard
#

and if you aren't tagging 24/7 what are you doing

faint beacon
#

90% of the playerbase doesn't even tag

narrow frost
faint beacon
uncut pebble
frank basin
#

professional get insult by loose cannon called boot-licking commissar foot

#

I like the professional voice the personality too much guardsmen energy

#

I still named him Khorne mercenary

tropic notch
#

I would run the cut throat if he wasn’t so whiny

tall torrent
tropic notch
#

I know lol

#

But if I’m not he’s yappin

tall torrent
hollow ibex
#

i like how bitter and angry he is

tropic notch
hollow ibex
#

esp when he's down

tropic notch
#

Be nice to me

surreal gust
#

is there even a way to edit your created characters

hollow ibex
#

yeah there's a vendor for it

#

in the mourningstar

surreal gust
#

ah

hollow ibex
#

personality scourge? or something

surreal gust
#

I'll have a look around once I'm loaded

#

oh yeah, can I improve my load times in some way, because it takes so long

#

yikes, 50k

#

meh, why not, I can get that back

tame lodge
#

Yeah like

#

One maelstrom

surreal gust
#

true

#

did run one yesterday and it gave me like 40

hollow ibex
surreal gust
#

that's what I'm talking about baby

trim steppe
#

Psych Ward is the single best mod I installed for this game

#

It's probably saved me 20+ hours of my life by not needing to sit through Mourningstar load screens

hollow ibex
#

fucking fr

trim steppe
surreal gust
#

I’ll work on installing mods tomorrow

#

I’ve heard weapon customization is really unstable

#

Looks super cool though

proven garden
#

does psword or caxe have higher crit chance

unreal nova
faint beacon
#

The permadeath run begins

gaunt anchor
#

You got this

#

Probably

surreal gust
#

Better make the 5 million dockets count

proven garden
#

how much swings does a maxed mk4 powersword have with power cycler

trim steppe
trim steppe
proven garden
#

ah shit i got it the wrong way around

#

vi thats 6 aint it

unreal nova
surreal gust
#

Nah he’s gonna be left behind to die by a hound

unreal nova
#

I mean, the stealth boomer is totally just going to act like a mobile barrel somehow.

faint beacon
#

@slow sky I see you.

unreal nova
#

Legs already blown off.

#

Such a bad sign.

faint beacon
#

Freak off happening over here

faint beacon
#

Say hi to the ironman Veteran

#

he's not going to live very long

unreal nova
slow sky