#veteran-class
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ah
Peddler my goat
At least 16% toughness and 20% hp curios are fairly common
And serviceable
Ye olden days of finding a 21% hp with +%xp on it were brutal
The old system was so much shit
The old system was really bad
but when path of redemption added basically 200 more plasteel per level the balance of plasteel to gambling was removed a little which made it... not good
I have hit max boredom to the point I am playing around with Grenadier Gauntlet melee combos
come play DK2

I like how they nerfed the melee on it too
Because ogryn

I both like and hate how I started the Bognadoff resurgence in here LMAO
what a handsome looking ogryn
Knows how to use a phone. Smart.
'tis but an elementary example of the Omnissiah's works
Data-Slates sound like tablets, with varying capabilities depending on their cost/sophistication and the needs of whatever author. There could well be some with smartphone-like size and capability, probably extremely rare and expensive. And covered in greeblies of course, because Imperium.
Good evening ^^ Any class you recommend to start playing the red difficulty missions?
Anyone that you're comfortable with
All classes are auric viable. Zealot is probably the most forgiving.
yeah i'd suggest starting with zealot
not only is it more forgiving, it teaches important habits
/skills
finally done 100 missions on veteran
Unless you play a super mobility weapon
Then it unlearns you
only two more penances till I am freee from vet
need master of war v and killshot ready
and then duelling sword gives you brain damage irl
or maybe you have to have brain damage to main DS to begin with
chicken or egg question right here
brain damage had existed long before DS was in darktide
well the question is whether you need brain damage to main DS, or if DS causes you to have brain damage
not 100% a chicken or egg question ig
Fucking Geto's Question
Can confirm
It also teaches terrible habits.
See: Until Death.
Going from Veteran to Zealot is way easier instead of Vice Versa
Probably the HARDEST to get into is Psyker cause of the Glass cannon aspect behind it
Ogryn is by far the easiest though to get into
Lmao that’s how I went
Zealot->Veteren->Psyker
Its not even a glass cannon now that psyker has a higher base toughness.
They dont have many DR nodes/talents outside of one versus Zealot and Vets insanely strong one
but they still fall under that squishy
However
they're still insanely powerful
veteran gets 1~2 TDR nodes that matter
but more like just 1
zealot has stronger TDR than veteran
with better toughness gain talents than veteran
and better base stats than veteran

No.
Yes
yea lol
Frog do u even play zealot or vet bro
Second Wind is the only one that's even remotely comparable.
U said u can get cooldown better on infiltrate than shroudfield
second wind is broken
yea they don't get used, the one that does get used is better than veteran's
yea
Second Wind is comparable, the others are not.
vicious offering is also pretty good
Not when you consider point taxes.
zealot has more & better non-kill-based toughness talents
That's 4 points to grab vicious offering.
that already is better than veteran
No???
Passive toughness regen > active toughness regen in a lot of scenarios
Oh wait you don't mean point tax, nvm.
Yeah I will say passive toughness gen is good but it does not have the magnitude you need to matter much.
I mean even if u compare book to shout book is way better in toughness regen
2.5% per second, if you have 3 enemies within 8m is pretty poor generation to rely on.
Voice of Terra is just flat out worse o4b.
Second wind alone tho is broken to have
Blood redemption is 2.5% more toughness on melee kills, not really anything to write home about.
Stalwart also gets an honorable mention with its unlisted 2% buff.
Vicious offering has the magnitude you want but the issue with it is point tax.
second wind alone is better than veteran's whole toughness gain kit
So I'll stick with my point that second wind is the only one comparable to vet talents due to its magnitude and activation.
The others do not compare in the slightest.
Yeah and I'll agree with that, but not with your original statement of "talents."
@faint beacon you on
30% toughness for elite or specialist kill on vet is actually really good only problem is ur not gonna have time to turn around to kill some elite if ur already running for ur life
fine "talents"
yeah sup why
share your VA build?
Whats va
My brain is confuzled
Voice acting?
Im currently using a smoke VA combo one moment
Sorry I'm being kinda picky about it but I find that people talking about zealout toughness gen being good typically never consider that the only good node is second wind.
Vigilant autogun.
Which one?
too bad the only good one outperforms everything bar ogryn's
Look at Gales name and ask again.
Ainz if you got the pro gamer flick aim you'll enjoy the build a shit ton
so it's hard to not think it's too strong
Oh the fun one
but you can very easily replace the melee with taxe it works just as well
I'll probably use shovel or taxe
I think it just overshadows the other talents significantly because the others lack magnitude or have shite activation requirements.
4% on ranged kill? Utter trash.
might have to give shovel like a B- rating in guide
Vet gets 5% on every kill, stacking with base 5% on melee kill...
I like shovel but it is a very B tier weapon
yea uncanny + SC/AoN
all that just be not as good as second wind
pure kill based is just not as good as having a strong non-kill-based option
I'm comparing it to voice of terra.

Whats voice of terra again
5% on every kill, plus base 5% on melee kill, vs 4% on ranged kill.
U love irs dont u
Also note that o4b is 2 points, voice of terra is 4 points.
Thanks
And voice of terra competes with restoring faith, which is effectively 20% more hp.
Stealing
tell me how that goes or what you plan to swap on it and I can probably throw something together cause my other build looks like this
Is that setup just generally the best for the first 3 skills?
My build for VA is startlingly similar, I path shredders, then spend that extra point on taking focus target instead of weapon spec + redirect fire, and I run a shovel.
@narrow frost If you're wanting to use Agri IX more over melee etc
Mf
Tunnel Vision makes O4B give more Toughness you love to see it
It needs a buff but its genuinely good on VA rifles
Well its the best to condition yourself with on Veteran cause it lets you be Agile
the middle path is still very good
why rending strikes over bring it down?
Helps the VA rifles
I’m not very good at skill distribution so
for what specific BPs
Vigilants can't kill maniac worth a damn, need the rending.
^ Bingo
Helps with that
and helps the Rachad
It's like 20 headshots to drop a dreg rager without maniac + elite + rending strikes.
And Taxe technically if you want to rock that
Ignoring the fact we're also running Precision strikes
fun fact that + MF stacks with obviously everything else
lets the VA actually instantly drop a Rager
holy shit
Thats if it crits though
i was gonna say my graia VII vigi doesnt struggle so much with ragers
Vigilant Autos
much rather have extra ogryn damage
I dont even consider weapons without precision strikes on vet, it's a must have talent.
The like
shit must have talents on Vet that I can think of
Precision Strikes, Iron Will, Demo stockpile or team
thats like 3 I can think of atm
Precision strikes, iron will, grenade regen.
Always and forever.
I REALLY wish vet had other tdr talents so iron will wasn't so necessary.
Close quarters whatever it is up top is cool and all but it isn't enough.
O4B scales the best into havoc so it’s a good idea to get used to it
thats why im kinda against an Iron Will gutting is just cause
Nah
Precision strikes is not must have
Especially because there's always a fucking stealth zealout somewhere in your queue so you're always gonna be one man down.
the fuck does veteran have after that outside of like Golden Toughness on VOC
There’re niche builds that don’t need precision strikes
Simply not being in a position to get beat to death or shot.
For example shovel + DB shotgun
Aka backlining 24/7
incredibly fucking boring
I would think shovel needs precision strikes for horde bps.
Actually not really no
SKC makes up for it
Yes its nice to have that extra damage
Brute forcing armor, I'm not too concerned with, because uncanny.
but like SKC will help regardless
Whats precision strikes again i forgot
30% Weakspot Damage increase
Ah
Bro really asked me if I play vet and zeal at all and can't even remember the names of the talents of the class he mains...
I generally use it a shit ton just cause if im not popping heads im not playing Vet
I’m gonna take that as a yes
Yea i cant remember the talent names sometimes

If u tell me what they do ill remember ehere it is and know what it is tho
I’ll ask again about skill distribution once I get into making builds
Confirmed kill + exe stance = murder every shooter elite in sight.
TOTAL GUNNER DEATH
Mfw I can 2 burst a fucking reaper with agri vigilant:
Elite + Maniac my beloved
covering the things I need to kill like Gunners and Reaper whilst also giving me a bit of extra damage towards ragers
Also Agri IX Exec stance build
At least what I run
It’s not always the best
But it’s a good thing to be used to
The only problem I have with running vigilants is that enemies suppress way too easily from them for some reason, so I pop one guy and everyone around him instantly ducks.
okey
I could do the same thing with ilas and get 4 kills before they bother hiding from me.
They're just scared of the badass burst rifle
I mean if I saw my friends head just fucking vanish with one sound of a round ringing out I'd immediately duck for cover
WE ADAPT 💪
U playing later?
I mean im on right now im just cooking something cause I left a match after watching a Zealot
well be a Zealot
I got destroyed by 30 ragers and they kinda just let it happen and basically idiot proofed out of it with Relic Blade
before instantly getting killed from Gunners
LMAO
(playing Ogryn btw)
You'd think a laser turning your buddy's head into a canoe would have the same exact effect, but they don't duck till I've dropped four of them.
I might play ogryn more
Not sure when I’ll hit lv1k on veteran
Oh I’m pretty far then
I haven’t played much recently
I'd say like 5 days of Veteran gameplay easily you'll get there
Levels do be hard to come by these days
I’ll get mods for the game at some point
Do u remember where u got that frame on veteran
What’s headtaker from
Huh
aka another PC Exclusive Frame
Damn I did not remember lol
I’m using blind justice frame + 21st recon insignia + poxbreaker
Blind justice kinda just goes hard so I cant really blame anyone using the PC exclusive stuff now
Whats that
How do u even remember the frame names wtf
Because he can check
If you played the game before
Nov 17th 2023
you would get this on PC only
Mainly cause XBOX Got 40 USD worth of Aquilas to spend on whatever they wished
and PC players WERE NOT HAPPY
Gotta go back in time to get darktide early
damn i want this
only if the super edition was bought for like a week or 2 after release
Yay
Oh yea i got this
So thats where that backpack came from
I remember it being from somewhere but couldnt remember where
i bought deluxe edition or whatever on pc and they gave enough aquillas to be a full set 
And i had it for the longest time
Wish i had the preorder shit tho
some dude is wilding in pics and vids
Admittedly I kinda avoided wearing it for sometime cause it never interested me but the full set with the stock Moebian Rebreather goes REALLY HARD
The shoulders are goofy big
gale likes his guardmans chunky question mark
I'd honestly take pictures of the 53rd set to compare the 3 regiments we know of so far
but my ass is not gonna grind the next 2 weeks of havoc only just to get it
I’ve settled for these
For now
That’s because the moebian rebreather goes hard
Anyways comparison sake Loyalist VIth vs 21st
if anyone has the 53rd Vet set respond to that cause again I am not fucking grinding for it LMAO
It came as a free bonus
I have
I can send u later when I’m on
Welp looks like im playing Black ops 3 zombies tomorrow seeing a mod team managed to port over Die Rise 🚬
53rd Courtesy of Path
the 53rd's armor looks more like traitor 6th than loyalist 6th does
Im honestly curious what made their armor kinda dull out
I mean clothing wise it makes sense seeing its worn down
but the armor losing its blue is interesting
i like the frame that includes a longlas, just to be a tease 
also i tend to play marksman style
Longlas + breacher axe, veteran exclusive, 2025, trust
do eet
no idea what a 40k breacher axe does but it sounds like an inbetween caxe and taxe
want
Deliberately removed for unit recognition, or if the blue paint includes some kind of corrosion inhibitor, it might have flaked off as the armor slowly (unnaturally quickly) corrodes due to Nurgle something something
Rashad but 2-handed
I would've expected a bit more rust imo
seeing its well Nurgle
Imo, I was thinking the 6th are abit more chaos undivided
Many of the guys just lose their nose and got like chaos symbols carved onto their head
for sure they probably spray painted their armour or scraped off the paint to be more recognizable yee
They’re very heavily nurgle-based
Judging by their lines
tetanus
The only actual nurgle imagery I see on the 6th is the trappers mask
And the gunners eyes
If it weren't for those and a few other small details they could be undivided
And also the cult and all
yeah that's what I was thinking
Their weapons have nurgle markings.
if you hit them in the arm they die
Funny shovel memes aside, what melee weapon do you pair with the Helbore?
heavy sword for hordeclear
or powersword for that matter
Or the always popular rashad axe.
Though that might require deciding if you want to invest up to trench fighter drill on the right side or lean more into left side marksmanship with helbore
what blessings and perks do i put on the infantry autogun and which mark?
IMO Fire Frenzy and Dumdum, Mk.V. Then pick between the usual, Flak Maniac Unyielding, at your preference.
I use the shockmaul as a funny "I hate Ogryns" build
But memes aside shovels are viable especially the mk1 with the helbore having hotshot (I think that's its name the +50 cleave blessing) since that applies to melee weapons
For some reason
I thought they patched all those things. Oh well, RP build's back on the menu, boys.
No those things still work last I checked.
Same with lethal proximity on bolt pistols with shredders
Nice.
BIS is flak maniac dumdum deathspitter, iirc.
I dont remember infantry models by number, but its vraks that's considered the best in terms of raw dps.
Agri is better for general purpose, though.
And columnus isn't used like at all.
what blessings and perks do i put on the infantry las gun? is infernus good on here too?
oh god why does it attack soo slow
what is the infantry las gun better at than any of the other las guns cuz this is horrible
It's an anti ranged enemy weapon
And you should try to click heads
okay
It has high Maniac and finesse damage
It's usually headhunter+ Deadly Accurate/Ghost
With Flak Maniacs
The mk9 can use Opening Salvo
Bring a melee that is good against carapace and Monstrosities
And mind the reverse fall off on the ilas
The closer you are to your target, the less damage it'll take
Theres many
why's that?
where could i find some of these?
The 9 got power crept on
Used to be the best one or something
Now it's the 2b
Iirc
i see
is the power sword still viable? the charge just goes away every time im on a thick horde and one groaner taps me nowadays
yeah its good
grab power cycler, that'd help
mk6 powersword you can cancel the charge animation with blocking
Top 3 vet melee weapon
Or top 4 if you rate knife higher than the psword
i mean i have brutal momentum and cycler 4, but it always tends to lose the charge even if i haven't done 3 swings yet. a small nudge from an enemy will cancel my sword charge out instantly. i tend to go down really fast because my sword loses power in the middle of a horde
what mark for the knife? i had more fun with the mk VI then the mark III
mk6 is the better one
i mean, im not really sure then
brutal momentum especially should let you just shred thru hordes
Powered weapons lose their charge when you take a hit (known bug)
So it is actually a bug? 
oh. it makes sense now. i shelved the sword after awhile after experiencing the sword losing charge more often than before. tried using it today again and still had the same result.
Gotta love the duelling sword as a vet but id rather do horde clear with the sword from time to time
To my knowledge. No clue where to dig up the info but I remember something about it actually being a bug
I might be used to the powered sword to lose charge when getting hit but i always try to charge it before i get close to a horde and also always block push
felt different months ago, an update must have broken it or something, i have games where i was taking hits but the sword was still turned on
It's not a bug, it's on purpose.
must be a silent nerf then
I'm like 99% sure power sword losing charge on hit is not a bug.
But that would require me to get on my pc and skim patch notes to confirm and I'm not gonna do that rn.
Unlocked and loaded dropped Sept 26th. That post is of Oct 10th. Power sword still loses charge if you get hit afaik.
Worringly, this is from a 3 months old reddit post. So this was 5 months ago 
If it hasn't been "fixed" then power sword losing charge is intentional.
It's most power weapons though, not just Power sword, right?
Methinks they mightve bugged other power weapons, like paul, crusher, and hammer when they dropped that update.
Nope, they retain their charges when you get hit.
The only other weapon that can lose its charge is fgs and only if you get hit during the special animation.
Yes.
Relic blade is good.
Power sword used to have 13 swings of bromentum horde deletion and be able to munch crushers back to back.
It deserved to be lobotomized.
That being said, it should get a rework to use relic blades heat system.
Base damage should be buffed, empowered damage should be nerfed, mobility should be buffed.
It is a sword, it should function like one and not like a paperweight when it's off.
And last I checked, holding a sword doesn't turn your legs to lead.
it still can mulch crushers just not as fast
Yeah but you have to turn it back on between each one now.
Used to, you could click it once and kill 4 crushers.
Tried to bring frags, combat knife and an infantry lasgun with exy stance last night
Didn't go too poorly
True infantry build, respect
It worked all right
The only reason I went down was because I got swarmed and got by a trapper
I had used all my frags
you wouldn't like it it's a lot of left skill tree stuff
It has marksmans focus and exy stance and longshot
I see
i recently tried infiltrate and found it interesting
not really sure how to use correctly besides just stealthing objectives
and as get out of jail free
Use it aggressively
Sprint at shooter lines while invisible drop a smoke at your feet when you're there and start whacking
what do you mean?
oh
i havent used smoke grenade
you recommend a talent tree?
with both
ill give it a shot
It wasn't really the best
i was doing with kraks
But it was fun
but i kinda hate kraks
this work well for havocs?
oh
Havoc wasn't really fun
im just getting into havoc, i like the weird builds people do
I did it got a havoc 40 done and quit it
This might work in it
But it runs off landing nonstop headshots on shooters and elites
And I mean nonstop
Because if you aren't popping 2k damage headshots over and over you are doing 100 damage to a scab bomber with 800 health
And not staggering

don't care

I like to stand there and mow down hordes of shooters with a gun and not get one bursted by a single shooter from behind at full health

That's how I lost my last attempted 40
I was last man standing after clearing an entire room and as I walked out a single shooter on a platform out of bounds above me shot me in the back
I didn't want to deal with that anymore
🗣️
Different strokes for different folks, you know. What one finds fun is another's chore.
I still need to do a 35-40 Havoc one last time for TS
Then I will just be rolling low Havocs
High level Havoc borderlines on BS at times...
The AI doesn't just hate you, it actively and maliciously plots against you like scrapcode
I had a havoc 38 with 2 chaos spawns a scab captain and a horde rush at the same time
Oof
We lost in like 20 seconds
What weappns tho
Had a doible nurgle the other day
Shit was fun af
im honestly not sure what one is meant to run with infil
im thinking revolver, but i just have a weird urge to use infantry las
I mean what do u wanna run
thats why i wanna try a havoc build with ilas
U can run anything tbf
Ilas infiltrate on havoc is a strange choice
Ah
infiltrate is just experimenting rn
I mean u can run it with shout just fine
Yea exec stance ilas works well
Same thing
what's the build on that?
especialyl if its the same thing, ive been meaning to try both at some point
i dont give the las weapons any love
like, at all
what do you all prefer to dump or split on plasma gun? charge seems like it'd be minimal gains 60-80 but idk
Something like this for my hellbore
Not entirely sure
Just wooped it up from memory
it's gotta be that or thermal or a split, right?
@tired egret
At this point its harder getting the map than actually doing it



The last 10 maps have been all DOG
69 thermal allows you to M1 8 times before overheating, starting from 0 heat that is
sounds like a skill issue.

U know whats a bigger skill issue
Ohh Gotcha. Appreciate it!
U and ur not shirtless ogryn
true
What iron mike tygryn SHOULD be
maybe later
Now
ty man
Might be better spending 2 pointe going down middle for the toughness regen as well
at the top?
Yra
hmm... which ninja village is this from? 
The one that kills orks
Double Grass village
Or would it be thick grass village
Jungle grass village
fem loose cannon x male seer psyker tbh
hey they got personalities and stuff
theyre characters
i love their dynamic
"you're not gonna do somethin weird to my brain are you?"
"oh of course not, who even has time to look for something that small!"
Male LC and Female Savant have an interaction when he takes ammo when others are low
“I hope I won’t catch you looting again”
“Oh you won’t- catch me that is.”
“Ugh, you never change do you.”
“Never have, lacking something called a role model, care to try that?”
no shot this is legit right?
without that exp bug/exploit thing?
You also have their steam handle and can thus hours check them
What are the odds he’s completely dog shit
Between 1% and 100%
he was actually pretty bad tbh
like, a not insignificant amount worse than me

Pretty lore accurate for a DKOK veteran
rule #2 titles, levels, emblems, and scoreboard dont mean anything
good players have bad matches too
say, is Close Order Drill worth giving up for On Your Toes
What does ur build look like
Rashad/DB shotgun
was using Kraks for penance.. if I have to swap to Frags I can't take On Your Toes then
Could drop ammo & superiority complex
Yeah that’s what I do and take the top middle 2
I am using powercycler with brutal momentum and dmg vs unyelding and maniac
I love my toughness sources
I belive i can 2 shot a crusher on damnation
Hmm wouldn't losing Superiority Complex mess with breakpoints
Are there any hidden things about born leader? @tall torrent
It doesn’t loop between veterans
That’s not mad I’d change maniac to flak
Not rly 
Just crit more

Does it effect personal toughness gain?

Or just cohesion
I did some field tests
Crusher breakpoints kinda don’t matter all that much
Yeah, it is my old sword that I used in 2023, so it is not updated with the crafting system 😄
When u can have 40% crit chance in melee combat pretty easily against them
flak makes sense
In that case I'd rather take On Your Toes + Frag than Close Order + Confirmed Kill
Your own, no
@narrow frost you see the two leaked models of melees that immediately got pulled yet?
Zealots on my teams seem to have an annoying habit of getting the killing blow on elites I'm taking down
@narrow frost you’re gonna witness peak
I’d have everything at 80 but cleave targets
Dm
I’ll DM what Oggy is getting
got it gale
How does an autogun build with focus fire and exe stance look? I have tried one, but I feel like I lack thoughness regen. My only sources are through Tunnel vision and confirmed kill. Maybe exhilirating takedown or out for blood is better?
It is true
Otherwise it wouldn’t have gotten taken down
I’m more excited about the other one tho
Yeah but it could be way in the future right
Rather than next patch
And fighting in melee
Could be
this gon be on zealot?
No it’s veteran only
(we actually don’t know)
Haha, true
i'd complain about this online if it happens!
loudly!
It’d be really funny if it ends up veteran exclusive
But also well deserved
Zealot got relic blade
ig vets do need a special melee that isnt power sword
ye
but i mostly play zealot so im selfish
It’d be extra funny if it ends up zealot exclusive
my other charaters didnt even hit 30
Because then it’s just Rashad 24/7 forever ever on veteran
Are there any focus fire enthusiasts? If so who can I ask? 😄
Focus target is best for weapons that need it for 1 tap breakpoints
It’s very generalist though
2 handed power axe or powerfist on vet would make make me pick it up instantly bye bye zealot 
U can run it with most weapons and be fine
Axe is simply cooler than sword
could you also dm me? 👁️
Done
Does out for blood work on shooting?
both are about equals but u know what i put ahead of both
HALLBERDS
Works for all kills
Yes please, give us a halbeard
@brazen mural https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e508632-fc12-477f-98fa-0908cbd70446/ps-vet this is how I would build it
Oki, so which thoughness regen talent is better for infantry autgun? Out for blood or exhilirating takedown`?
You can use revolver, plasma, bolter, bolt pistol, and d barrel if you want a different option
CK > O4B > ET
Situationally, CK ≈ O4B
wdym we have shovel
Is agile engagement important for a breakpoint?
peak
nah axe is for zealot
vet gets a new db mark
I think? It helps with long range with the d barrel and since it’s weapon specialist you just get free damage for playing your build
Aight, thx 😄
Usually no
For a few weapons yes
havent tried one yet can you believe it
shovel's next

Can I see?
i actually haven't used one in a game either
the melee weapons i haven't ever played with are like, shovel and shock maul
I dont even know what shock maul looks like
I just wasn't playing around the time they got added and never got around to it
keep in mind i didnt run it the "meta" way so u never know maybe im sleeping on some beast
but i literally never see anyone play it
No 

I don't know what the swings look like at all.
I've literally never spectated someone who used it
maybe i'll build one next
Meta for smaul is skullcursher and hammerblow right?
Shock maul looks so cool but is just ok
It’s like shovel
You kinda have to have a feel for it
But they both suffer against unyielding
that's fair
They’re both decent choices though
ill drill it in in psychanium
They’re B- tier melee
5th best melee on veteran
Just you REALLY notice carapace
The alternative for Hammerblow is high voltage iirc
No more heavy attack rager stagger

Fucking hate
When the game decides it’s your time to suffer
Gives you max stickiness with ragers and next thing you know
30 of them are barreling towards you
Heat seeking death missiles
throw a nade at your feet
Raaaauuugh
Issue you’re running Kraks or smokes
Or just playing a class in general that can’t deal with the sheer and utter spam
run to a teammate and make it their problem too 
Yeah clutching with mercy killer vet can be hard with tons of area denial and ragers, mutants, trappers pushing you
I wish I wasn’t punished for taking shredder nade
You’re not
You just shouldn’t rly be using mercy killer 
I mean technically yeah but rip point efficiency
I wuv knife vet
Is the suppression immunity from determined worth it?
Are you saying i should run precog and uncanny? 
Not really
Which weapon?
Recon lasgun
Because shotguns, laspistols, plasma are immune
Eh just hold the trigger
You'll suppress and they'll stop shooting
Depends on weapon
No
I’m saying mercy killer is not so strong that it’s worth running serrated blade for
Ok real
What would be the other blessings combo without mk?
I like the Precog and riposte
not saying that it is the best, just what i find fun 😄
Helbores are also pretty much stable under fire
So I guess Infantry Lasguns and Vigilants would like determined
That’s good to run it’s hard to go wrong with the knife
yeah that is the problem, haha
I always thought vets knife was mercy killer and uncanny
@tall torrent what setup would do more damage?
I feel like haymaker and executor is not seen much
Try riposte / flesh tearer
flesh tester 
Haymaker is just a weird choice
Executor is just really really niche
I was about to ask about ripost and if vet really needs it because of resoprosty
that, along with any combination of riposte/precog/uncanny are all valid options imo
just depends on how consistent or how much burst damage you want
should probably just try all of them
I agree, I can not see a good reason to pick them. Maybe executor, but I probably loose the stack if I miss a weakspot, and that will happen with a fast weapon
Oki, that is probably why I assumed executor worked that way
Executor is ok for mk6 knife
Hot shot on hellbore must be a fan service to the Krig-enjoyers
Executor drops a ton making it inconsistent
Haymaker on a weapon with massive single target dps and barely any cleave on one mark heavies
Even mk6 doesn’t have the cleave to make haymaker worth it
What blessings do people enjoy on the shovel?
Uncanny and decimator
Mk 1
You should try it with the build I gave you as well
Good idea
Smokes are scaring me though, any tips for how to get consistent use of them?
It’s a dome shield with 3 charges
Stay inside the smoke
Toss when you’re getting shot to hell or want to push an open space to a gun line
Just make sure they aren’t inside the smoke as well
Gunners will keep firing
So throw at your feet or where you'll be in 2 seconds
Plasma blessings and perks?
Rising heat and gets hot with flak maniac?

Unarmored
Flak
Rising heat
Gets hot
So close
truth
I could be tricked into putting carapace or unyilding, but unarmored on the wall pircing gun makes no sense, haha
When you give some enemies no armor and some enemies Flak Armor, but give the unarmored ones more HP and most weapons the same damage vs both so the unarmored ones are just plain tougher
Yep
I wish the bolter still did 0.75 to flak
Makes more sense, as It is supposed to kill infected, unarmored, unyilding and maniac. Not flak and carapace
Pretty sure boltgun can pierce flak and carapace no problem in lore
It’s only not made to kill power armor
Yes, it can and it is still better vs. those types i mentioned
I am a bit of a fan when most wepons fall into a rock, paper scissor category. Instead of it being all of those at the same time. Or in a case where a weapon Is a problem solver, aka bolter mag dump, it is still limited by ammo, slow equip and bad reload.
FS has hit the mark on many weapons with this^^, but some weapons are to good vs. to many things or just to bad vs. to many things and not good enough at what it is supposed to be good at.
Some mario wepons is fine, but then they have to be C tier against all and not S
counter point, the bolter feels fucking amazing to use
and huge part of that is that it deletes all threats if u land your shots
Yeah the Bolter is supposed to be strong against everything short of power armor, with the drawbacks being offloaded entirely to things other than Armor Damage Modifiers. Rock Paper Scissors type balancing is well and good but it also has to make sense and/or follow the established lore, which is a tricky spot to be in. The tabletop RPGs made some weapons Just Plain Better than others and balanced it by making them rarer/more expensive, which definitely doesn't apply in this game
with a beefy ass sound and recoil it better have some armor pen.
Would have been interesting to have an alternate universe Darktide that follows RPG convention: Performance-wise a Bolter is just better than a Lasgun (except magazine & total ammo at least), but if you blow all your Requisition on a Bolter you won't be able to bring Carapace Armor or a fancy Auspex or Krak Grenades or whatever.
I say we make every weapon borderline useless and make sedition a struggle to complete
40k tarkov
I should run grenade spam build but with smokes to piss off my 3 other teammates
oh there's even an enhanced blitz malestrom up
sick
no
67 smoke grenades
I couldn't see anything the whole game but also I don't think I got shot even once?
So works out
Amazing to use is a good argument. I think most cool weapons should be good. Like the power/force swords, chain weapons, thunder, plasma and bolt weapons should probably be A-S tier as it just feels right, they are the most "Warhammer" weapons that we have. It just feels better if there are some clear drawbacks.
What could be good solutions for the bolter?
Problem with cutting ammo from bolter, is that I just makes you even more reliant on survivalist, so that might not be a good solution. However carrying 9+ magazines of bolter ammunition must be heavy, haha
bolter is already an option in the meta tho
why would it need changes
it also has clear drawbacks
the recoil, and poor ammo economy
Long reload long draw time
also slow draw time and reload too yeah
Bolter is fine
whats the thoughts on the new outfit
I feel like it has a pretty good ammo economy. Not as crazy good as lasguns with shock trooper, but still good. 95 shots that in most cases delete your enemy in 1 shot is pretty good.
The knife and brautogun is cool
The fact that we can not look at our char in-mission ruins my temptation to buy character skins
Camos are really the only good things if they’re weapons you like outside of that
Extremely taste dependent
I’m not a fan so I view it as slop
yeah idk how i feel about these outfits
my tiny phone preview made me think it was cooler
Painfully mid
If the skin shop had acces to all skins at all times it also would be more tempting to buy smth
Yeah but fatshark disagrees
i just want savlar to be back on rotation
Not necessarily correct
Choice paralysis is a real thing
Yes, they have disagreed with the community on many things. Just fixing the skin shop and mission board left. The fact that we can not pick a specific mission with a specific modifier is very annoying. Could give us - 20% rewards or something
screamin belllll
Yes, however I try to avoid supporting businesses with fomo shops. I just do not like predatory systems
To bad they made a gamplay loop I love in my faviourite universe
Eh, it’s just cosmetics, I can wait
All bow before the power of the investors
shop managed by a gacha publisher blah
Loose cannon in a toy store: I WANT THESE KARKERS
Loose cannon is my favorite because of his surrounded lines
“YEEHAWWWW”
“WOOOOHOOO”
“We’re surrounded? YES”
Real
Loose cannon is peak
You mean, "I WANT ALL THOSE KARKERS!"
All is important. Hyper gremlin.
TRUE
Literally the difference between Male and Female
Male is just an overall prick with a slight soft side
Female is- yeah
Goblin
Of the personalities I think fem loose cannon, bodyguard ogryn, and male seer psyker have the most stuffed animals
F O R C A D I A !
G.R.E.M.L.I.N.
I mean outside of that she's fucking vicious
like way more of a prick than Male is by a landslide
She has both sides. She cares to a degree but likes to act all nutty mass murderer at times. Then you get the gremlin moments.
Cutthroat's "CLOSE, KILL, AND DO IT AGAIN" is a better voice line.
That line goes hard
You'd Probably like Female Cutthroat
She whines far less about Cadia
tag enemies more
@faint beacon can testify my veteran basically doesn't yap about cadia
if you're tagging 24/7 he rarely bitches
and if you aren't tagging 24/7 what are you doing
90% of the playerbase doesn't even tag
Crushers on their way to ensure you WILL be body blocked
Honestly it's a bad habit from playing gunker I've picked up, I don't tag things because if I look at something long enough to tag it, I could have already have killed it.
professional get insult by loose cannon called boot-licking commissar foot
I like the professional voice the personality too much guardsmen energy
I still named him Khorne mercenary
I would run the cut throat if he wasn’t so whiny
just tag enemies more often lol it's that easy
then play better
i like how bitter and angry he is

esp when he's down
Be nice to me
is there even a way to edit your created characters
ah
personality scourge? or something
I'll have a look around once I'm loaded
oh yeah, can I improve my load times in some way, because it takes so long
yikes, 50k
meh, why not, I can get that back
Get the psych ward mod and never load in 
that's what I'm talking about baby
Psych Ward is the single best mod I installed for this game
It's probably saved me 20+ hours of my life by not needing to sit through Mourningstar load screens
fucking fr
There's also a mod called DarkCache that usually helps reduce load times for when you cant use Psych Ward and you do need to load in
I’ll work on installing mods tomorrow
I’ve heard weapon customization is really unstable
Looks super cool though
does psword or caxe have higher crit chance
Check pins. Path stated them all there.
The permadeath run begins
Better make the 5 million dockets count
how much swings does a maxed mk4 powersword have with power cycler
My bet is that a barrel gets you before 30
3 swings. and there's no mk4
Barrel? Pretty sure a random knockback gets him.
Nah he’s gonna be left behind to die by a hound
I mean, the stealth boomer is totally just going to act like a mobile barrel somehow.
@slow sky I see you.
Freak off happening over here

join my group
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