#veteran-class
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He spends 10 minutes ranting about smoke grenades in the first 15 minutes
I also played H24 with smokes and honestly they are very useful if you know how to use them
yall destroyng him XD
he got banned for racism
they are banned
yeah he's really bad. he SOUNDS like he knows what he's talking about, so he's the perfect noob trap for beginner players in DT.
also harrassment
thats wild
He’s a bipolar, racist and fascist femboy with no grounded understanding of reality and has a stubborn tendency to be as informationally wrong as one can be
what the hell
yea theyre just shitty
Tanner is so good he cant even solo a havoc 40
Dont take his personal takes too serious
LMFAO
infiltrate and taunt
he got banned a long time ago
Tanner is racist to ogryns so it doesn't surprise me
Tanner really knows this game well
needs to play plasma/vraks Vet every game while tabbing every 2 seconds to see the scoreboard
i can't watch his gameplay because I might get an epilepsy attack from all the times he spams tab
For everytime I see a shout, plasma and DS veteran I will just know what person they are and who they watch
If you're still looking for videos to watch
Then Reginald or Telopots will be more suited
does he? lmaoo
Iirc
ive never seen someone in my life care soo much about the scoreboard
Reginald is a pretty good one and explains things in depth
I wonder how much times he checked the board with the H40 video
i think i ve seen some reginald videos
Yea the guy who does the most damage with 10 deaths is the better player according to tanner
Tanner doesnt even do a lot of damage thats the crazy part
Dont ever see the guy hitting 1.8+ mil damage
unfortunately he's also pretty frequently wrong or missing stuff
is ryken also good ? i ve seen some of his videos and i ve been liking him too
u can pretty much forget YT exists if u want informational content for this game
Dont think i heard of Ryken
Darktide youtubers in general tend to be pretty dogshit
Just like Helldivers 2
some are good but they dont give guides

damn
so discord and pracitce are enough?
Helldivers 2 youtubers are pretty bad
I do like ohdough tho
did u find the link to my guide yet
Some of what he says is wrong or very opinionated tho
Yea
I watch darktide youtubers to have a good laugh but thats about it
not really actually,checked 3 times every pinged message
was abt to ask again
Fun fact he got banned from the discord for being an ass and expecting special privilege when the people of the armory chat made fun of him for his shit takes on weapon balance
maybe i didnt catch it
Best type of darktide content is the shitposting ones
Lmfao
The famous ones anyway 😏
scroll down...
Hes got pretty strong opinions
Yeah I was about to say he was also banned due his behaviour
Mr unc is pretty good
Havent seen too much of his videos but hes a pretty good player
Reginald, Mr Unc
Telepots still playing?
i must be stupid but i dont find it
Ugh fine
I'm going to make my own channel
With short content videos and shitty mic
@potent tusk
idk if telopots is just done or out of playtesting or what but they haven't done much darktide anything in quite a while
thks
yes im stupid
Did that nobody like watching me being a noob without cussing
Maybe I should unmute my mic...
Lmao
Therew this guy i keep seeing pop up
Big dom
He has some of the worst builds possible
yea they hang out here
i saw him many times in zealot chat
Hes pretty dog no offense
wathced his videos because i was curious
holy shit did you do all thi
this
this i s golden
Wowh
nah it was all me
daaayum
I hope u like reading
Yea took me 5 hours to type it all out
it's actually very condensed
and made about as short as it can be
it's true
it's missing a lot of stuff too
do u use chatgpt to condense it
which will be elaborated further in steam guide
no
What about deepseek
just have basic writing skills it's not that complicated lmao
Maybe then the chinese players will stop being dogshit
all this only for 1 character
how would an AI even know what to parse as relevant lmao
I cant write
i dont even wanna know how hard are the other characters going to be to learn
Idk
Ogryns prollly the toughest
easier across the board
I need to make wn ogryn when i get the shirtless mod
idk if thats good cuz im learnign the hardest one first or thats bad cause im learning the hardest one first then
zealot is much easier to pick up and do well with compared to veteran (way better base stats, way better starting ult)
Ogryn is definitely harder
Vets pretty easy to learn imo
I don't think veteran is "the hardest", he's more like top 1~2 hardest
ogryn is very easy to pick up
but much harder to learn playstyle
But very hard to become good at
so it's not a straightforward way of judging "easy vs hard"
Ive seen like 2-3 good ogrysn on havoc 40
Yea
ogryn is actually so painful to play
everytime i play it, it's totally fine... until it isn't and i want to uninstall the game
psyker's not too bad
Ogryns are so op tho
Also suffers at the lower levels if you don't know how to play the other classes
Only comes online past lvl21
Yea low level psykers are pretty bad cuz u need the skill points
lower levels? just spam assail lol
psyker is hard to pick up but not that complicated later on
nothing to specifically build for u just stack +dmg talents
Then psyker and ogryn
yeah assail spam can get you through early levels on psyker pretty easy
I started as Psyker, suffered until I learned to dodge and parry on zealot and vet
Lmfao
I think vet and psyker are roughly equal in terms of difficulty of mastery
Its a lot harder to master on psyker imo
Tbh now that i think of it
Vet probably has the worst survivability
nah
broken kit across the board
veteran is the only class without a non-kill-based toughness gain talent in combat
Without bubble it gets pretty rough trying to solo a 40 tho
vets survivability is pretty weak imo
U got no passive toughness regen
And ability dc is only on special kills
Rough when ur kiting around 2 bosses and 50 crushers
zealot all u gotta do is slide and u get ur toughness bakc
VoC?
Voice of Command
Shout skill on the middle of the tree
has a cooldown
and needs specialist kills to gain back
sometimes the game just spam pure elites at u
Ah I see in that way
if tactical awareness was lower value but worked off both specialist and elite kills
it wouldn't be as bad
Vets should honestly have betetr ability cd
If ur using infiltrate with 2 charges
Thats like 50+ seconds cd per charge
Heh
Almost 1 point blank barrage
Crits make them immune to ranged
Easy access to crits
Dodges for days
Shriek+Purgatus = endless Toughness regen + crowd control
Inferno scriers gaze
Psykers main difficulty is how little health u have imo
But if u can manage that ur good
in a mode where everyone is squishy
being extra squishy suddenly doesn't mean that much
Yea
broken kit across the board
people gaslight themselves into thinking psyker is so complex
The survivability on zealot is just absurd
Its mainly tryna understand what all the shit in the tree means
Peril warp attack whatever
it's not hard whatsoever
Nah dude it's hard to press 2 buttons and everything in front of you gets stunned and/or dies instantly 😔
Was confusing for me when i first playing it
Smykers
Dagger+Fury+Crit cooldown
Toughness refill every 2 seconds and best TDR in the game
No u don't need to be a smyker
Zealot os just insane at survivability
I wish vet had better survivability thats passive
U cant afford to turn around and shoot things a lot of times to
Vent is soo giga broken in higher difficulties that if it wasn't for Emporer's fading light, the "meta" in Havoc would literally be 4 vent Psykers
Isn't that just Iron Will?
Regen toughness
Is that the 50% toughness damage reduction
On high toughness yeah
Played melee Scrier's Gaze in Auric many times, I'm not good but I topped damage charts anyway
(And only died an acceptable amount of times)
Yea but its not passive toughness regen
U have like barelt any ways of regening toughness
None of them are passive
Funny you say that cause it was definitely above 100 at the very least
You can just turn on your fan and sound bad enough.
VoC can go over that and stack.
A bit more passive Toughness regen and a bit more TDR without strings attached, would be nice
It gets funny one game with 4 vets and shout.
okay os it was probably just 150 and i misremembered
Like 250?
Too much?
Take Infiltration let the rest go cold turkey on their VoC addiction
Thats what i do
Some games i just let my team fend for themselves half the time
About time they get used to not having golden toughness
@tall torrent what's the point of falter on ilas mk vii again? 🤔
thanks
So it makes the enemies not swing around
Falter propaganda
is the heavy las pistol good with vet?
yes
Good for ogryns
Mk2 preferably
was wanting to make a power sword build with it
why the Mk2?
"At full toughness (100%), the player can take 1 normal melee attack without suffering health dmg. As such, it’s crucial to keep toughness as often at 100% as possible to minimize taking chip dmg."
this is game changing
they should explain this stuff in the game ngl
Mk10 rate of fire sucks and isn't justified with its damage per shot.
You get far more dps using mk2.
Did u never know that 
I would've thought that would be something people pick up naturally.
well not for me at least,shield usually doesnt work this way in other games
es. payday2/3 cant take damage until armor is down.
I was meaning like, you'd realize it after taking your first hit below max toughness.
oh
maybe,didnt happen for me
Mk2 and mk10 have pretty similar Ammo Economy, Firing Uptime, Elite and Special killing prowess
But Mk2s DPS is higher
Read more 
Its not like visually clear or if you're getting hit in melee sometimes you don't get hit just once

You question the words of the mighty gimmick blessing?!
When you first start "on overwatch" there's not really a "oh you can get hit once in melee if you're at 100% toughness" indicator anywhere
Questioning is my middle name
Perfectionist Questioning Higui
?????
Someone questioning me?
thanks for defending me 😭 💘
oh god the ilas mk2's recoil when firing at full auto 
i forgot how all over the place it is
ngl theres a lot they should explain in game. theres very little thats explained outside of the two tutorials
what does it meeans that it cant stack with itself with other veterans?
does it mean that if you kill one elite you dont get 4 per cent (if there s 4 vets in game)?
Yes
that s also the fun of going out of your way to get better than people who doesnt do it
It can stack with scavenger but that’s a really niche application
I don't think any class aura stacks with others
Or errhm
Class auras of the same name don't stack

This is why gold toughness is OP
Because as long as you have over a 100% toughness, you can't be damaged
are there any other ways to get it other than (the only way i know for now) voc?
Except overheads but they won't instakill you
Unlike just having 100% normal toughness
Zealot’s chorus
Zealot chorus
If we’re on the topic of on Overwatch literally just view it as any melee damage taken that deals bleed through to HP instantly disqualifies it
Voice of Command and Zealot Chorus are the only 2 sources
thats why they that used
This is why havoc meta is 2 chorus zealots LOL
And maybe 1 shout vet (can be replaced by a 2nd psyker tho)
2 books
vet shouting 24/7
bubble
DS4 on all
its gaming time
Nah, 1 of veteran / psyker / zealot
4th is flex, can be any
"guys why is havoc so easy?"
2 vets is kinda overkill
2 of anything is overkill
also i have a question on the "salvo mechanic"
how would it work on a weapon like the recon or vaks 5?
2 vets is a hilarious amount of shredders
True
I think ogryn is pretty good
sorry the two players that carried me in havoc 40 where two ogryns with giant pickaxes and a sniper
meta is dead
Ogryn has its place ya
If 2nd zealot is relic blade + FotF then ogryn is sorta better
Pickaxe does same job and bull rush has CC utility
I mean yeah Ogryn in havoc can only use either pickaxe or shield and maul
Otherwise it's EXTREMELY hard to play him
Bull Rush is literally the fuck you button to crusher pack spam
like what the fuck is wrong with some people lol
Incredibly helpful in havoc
PS5 players:
Ogryn has neither bubble nor yellow
did he miss a dog 3 times...
The charismatic duelling sword mk4:
i think he was intending to shoot at me
because he hit me
but not the dog
maybe i did something to annoy him, idk
voc, bubble, book i sleep
exec stance, bull rush and dps psyker teammates? hell yeah
i LOVE a good exc stance vet they just get rid of all gunners and snipers
too bad they are rare
You dont need exe to kill ranged
To be fair I do this with VoC anyways cuz I run plasma
The limiting factor is ammo, not dmg
u dont need it but a lot of vets i play with are trynna be discount zealots crutching on voc instead of shooting ranged mfs
Well, playing exe over voc doesnt make you more skilled or better
It just make you more reliant on teammate peel
im not saying that brother
im just saying the few exec stance vets i got merked ranged and played that role perfectly
I always advocate for one of each class on Havoc 
i use xstance to be stun immune against ragers in melee
let the record show i suck at dodging crusher overheads, dodging backward won't save me right
It’s incredibly boring playing like that even though veteran can easily be a good frontliner I just think they struggle with the mindset of understanding the moment a gunner pack or ranged pack is in play you focus that first before you focus the mixed horde
I mean... abusing agile is how to squeeze most dmg out of vet. And that involves shooting
i mostly do zealot and i just run bolt pistol/bolter/recon ect to take out the ranged bozos myself 
Thank god I have the ammo aura and my teammates are nice to me and let me suck all the ammo
I feel like a vacuum cleaner when playing vet
You're objectively wrong and your opinion is bad...
... It should be 4 ogryns
Dmg wise you cant beat psyker anyway
Well no ofc not

But god it feels good to just FWOMP any special trying to get us
Trapper slowly approaching? Sorry railgun headshot
Vet is still best at picking target
Like I have so much fun with weapon specialist keystone
Just play axe at that point
Duelling sword + plasma forever my goat
Even if they nerf both
I'll keep using them
Then you’re honestly better off investing into more grenades and middle keystone
WS not required for either
I already do have more nades
Ds4 doesnt need ws, and plasma is good at activating ws but not great at using it
Atk speed’s impact on duelling sword is pretty minimal
Then just take middle keystone tbh
Ws is best with high cleave melee
I mean you're not wrong but I like killing 1 trash/elite/special and then having +15% attack speed with the other node with the extra 10% attack speed and the other node with 25% more finesse
To just DESTROY crushers and everything that's coming for us easily
Atk speed is really minimal for duelling sword
Because it’s not a flat atk speed bonus
The point is: ds doesnt need ws to do that
(I hope you knew that before)
holy siht i thought this guy was a martyrdom zealot
Atk speed modifies attacks’ combo chain time
I still feel it synergizes better with how I play tho
Constantly swapping between the two
Nah, grab agile engagement then
Even so, ds is not a good abuser of it
That’s doing more than WS pathing for duelling sword
If u go WS just take axe / PS honestly
Or shovel if you feel nonmeta 
At the end of the day you are not throwing with ws on ds. It is just barely improving your dmg and add combat movement to one of the most mobile weapon in the game
You need the support node more than ws
Yeah I do get that it doesn't make the attack faster but rather the time it takes between starting attacks
Go agile engagement instead of WS, would do u better prob
I don't remember it by name, which one was it?
Above right aura
I don't know if it's that worth it going full right thooooo
Kinda need shredders cuz DoT in havoc is busted with our psyker friends running flame with brittleness
Didn’t u say u got extra grenades
Didn't I?
You didn’t
I thought demo team and the one that regenerates count as extra nades
That’s regen
Must've misunderstood
Catch a breath is better than GBITF as well
It’s not rly a competition
Catch a breath is just better
I'm ngl I will not remember the vet talent names for a while
My vet is still kinda fresh (the fucking Havoc level is higher than the level of the vet itself)
i miss thy grenades be swift
Ok I just saw it
But there's so many specials in havoc that I can spam shout every 10s or less for each cooldown
It’s still better than GBITF
I don't know...
Catch a breath also lets you stay in pox gas longer.
The competition isn't even close.
Talent that works whenever you’re not in melee
Vs
Talent that works maybe once across 20 games if u mess up and doesn’t even save u
The thing is that I'll have to spend a lot in melee anyways hah
Yea still catch a breath is better
When are u getting value out of GBITF
When a random stalker breaks my toughness methinks?
It won’t even save u
Because toughness grace is disabled
You’ll still eat damage
Might as well take the talent that helps toughness sustain
Hm...
Catch a breath still works while you're getting shot btw.
That's a walking red flag if I ever saw one
did my weekly 40 now i can rest for another week
yeah he quit at the first event
LMFAO is that a vet
i thought it was a zealot
dude martyrdom vet goes hard bro did u not know
That's my alt don't tell anyone.
Ya
truer words have never been said
Is bro using 3+ wound curious? 
that guy on havoc 20 did a 40 cuz he did 20 twice
definitely not because he was on his knees watching us play the whole game
think so
jay rush
saw him in call the other day
I did my 40 ya
Nah
damn
My ogryn can only duo
keje
the legend
Bro he's EU he won't play with me
I need Apollo to login so we can duo vigil
Hell ya
lmfao i need to maek an ogryn seriosly
It's fun man
Ya I'm trying charge again
its like smelter complex with blight and pus
play more with it ull be good at it idk
dude u wanna duo smelter complex with blight and pus
LMFAO
Unless u play ur zealot no
What's normal
Ya that's fine they die anyway
ye
imma go to psykanarium and fight some maulers and crushers im too rsuty
dude no way its big dom @latent parcel LLMFAO
he was typin
bro i think i scared him away
Whose that
what ?
i was gonna ask veteran steam a question
but i found my answer
Ya don't hate big dom. Guy is the grenade goat
i don't even know the guy lmao
powersword goatr
Let him cook (he’s cooking nothing)
cooking his wounds
5 WOUND WARRIOR 💪💪💪💪
I love my psword maff taught me well
no he didnt
u were using it when i met u
dude that game was legendary bro
metaman on his knees with his 200k damage
Maff u ready for some havoc 40s
yah sure
Ginmie 20
i thought we picking up 2 bad psyekrs
Maff can play his psyker

I can go exe 
Exe stance dope
papa and his 1.8 mil dmaage
am going exe and enhanced target

this is so dumb im fighting cruhsers in psykanarium
With what
how many ?
Problay 2
10
More than that it becomes an endurance game
My best with melee only is 60 i think ?
Ragers are harder though
lemem try now with pwoersword
bruh what's with all the martyrdom players today
Don't you know that more bar means more life ?
godtier player

i think you mean all stamina
see I always see people do this with scab ragers
does it just not work against dreg ragers
because they all do their lunging attack at the same time and instantly kill you?
dreg rager used to be easier
Dregs aren't too bad still, you just need to play the range game with them.
okay but playing the range game with them means they constantly spam their lunging combo 24/7
As in, knowing when their attacks will hit you and when they won't
Also scab rager cannot be cleaved efficiently without sunder
And back then i was a big sunder advocate
I use heavy attacks to stagger large groups of elites when I need.
yeah the cleave shit now that scab ragers are carapace is the only thing going for them
and it's a big thing
I'm a fan of Sunder now too personally if only for the purpose that it lets me using glancing strikes to keep bulwarks from pushing me, and still being able to hit the pesky trapper hiding behind him.
Big cleave is really valuable in havoc
i'm a fan of sunder because I suck at hitting weakpoints for BM 
I don't use Heavy Attacks that much on the Mk6 PS, so I don't get too much benefit from the 20% dmg boost
I don't even mind that, BM lets you get 4 poxwalkers, but Sunder lets you get 5 per swing so like, it's a trade.
maff told me if i dont use sunder im a weeny vet so i use it now
Which insane person uses serrated blade with power sword
that's a lie, I never tell ppl what to play
Unironically using it for the better cleaving damage against large groups of armor, and for the fact it helps synergize with my Ogryns and Zealots who use bleed builds.
Ah wut, i gotta go with az @latent parcel
tell az to open up 2 spots
we are 3 that would be me the open spot 
guysss
i ve been playng some damnation after all the tips and new stuff i discovered and i ve improved quite a lot ngl
imma download the statistics mod so if you want ill post my progressess 🙏
Ngl, I've kinda gotten to the point where I'm utilizing the most buff/debuff stacking I can get to work with my teammates.
I'm also using exploit weakness now so that when I cleave 20 maulers, they take more bleed damage, and maybe the fire psyker does some more damage.
It's the little stuff that adds up
Doing this on the all Melee Maelstrom is fun
im not ditching stompt but if he wanna ditch em im fine with dat
yeah the little stuff like me taking personal damage buffs and just 2 shotting maulers
and killing them
I mean, I still 1 or 2 hit most things still
4 vet havoc 40 lmao
4 Vets is goated tbh
Well, we still need 1
ya i want 4 ogryns
4 ogryn or bust
i think chonky donkey and i are playin
sorry maff i cant ditch the donk
its fine
I can join, but only if someone abuses mark target so we can get the ~20% dmg bonus as a team
ye
gota warn u tho i am actually really tired
do u even want to play
i miss the iron mike action bro
ya maff was trying to make me go plasma shout vet
so u comin with us? @wanton dawn
u see that eariler?
Just invited pierre dude. We are going 4 vet h40
u already do that bro
ur plasma shout buuld
what lineup we got
4 shout?
hell ya
probably
nah, i am smoke duty
tell az to get on his ogryn so we can do 4 ogryns
whats the point of playing 4 vet if u all gonna stack shout tho
if fits no shout then itll be prett wild
prett
@unreal nova we doing a 40
wheres papa willy at
WHO DARES DISTURB ME PERSONAL TIME!?
me
imma touch u in ur personal time

YOU WISH
PFFFF
iron mike go 69
aight
@paper umbra hey cheese buddy
wanna come on our 40?
with u in our team well have a true trio
Kid named Daemonhost

@steep flower u got ur food bro
Recently picked up veteran. I am a fan of the helbore lasgun, but I am having trouble finding a comfy melee weapon. Any recommendations?
frying...
the helbore lasgun
Duelling sword is very easy and strong
LMAOOO
Shovel
I have tried them, but they feel a little iffy. It feels good for the specials and elites but the horde clear feels bad.
Get Hotshot as a blessing and it'll power your shovel
more seriously depending on your personal preference and build you might not need elite clear with the helbore
since it can potentially one shot every specialist/elite in the game
So the more obvious choices for it would be the Power Sword, Heavy Sword, and Combat Axe
if you're not super investing into the helbore to make it one shot elites you can invest more into melee to have combat axe put out numbers
if you are super investing into it then heavy sword and power sword have great horde clear to make up for its single target nature
I tried the power sword but I do not like the constant special activation. Will the heavy sword have that same issue?
it uses its special to stagger things sometimes
it mostly spams its heavy attacks if you can believe
DS4 Having booty horde clear is the tradeoff for obliterating literally everything else
Ahh okay. With the combat axe it felt like I could only kill like 1 or 2 small dudes. Am I missing a blessing or something?
yeah but if you're using a helbore it has that "everything else" handled mostly
how s this
Brutal Momentum
Maybe it's a variant I should be using
Rashad is the most popular
Antax is technically a sidegrade held back by awful slow heavy attacks
Achlys sucks
Okay, thank you. I will check these weapons out.
And for heavy sword I think it was the Mk 9 that's the best?
also
watching stats from statistics do i know what should i improve on?
like, i see i ve been better in offense score than indefense score,is it a good way to know i should practice defense more?
Only the first two
Helbore is too point intensive to run combat axe
Not necessarily, if you get knocked out of combo you kinda get fucked because your h1 is a strikedown that's straight vertical. Vet could make better use of mk7.
push attack or throwing a light attack gets you back to the cleave heavies
also don't all of them have a strikedown H1?
crap happened 
@wanton dawn rip, sorry for the throw at the end there, that spot is better with a fire psyker tbh
Dumb stat for duelin sword?
dont worry
blight with 4 vet is hard enough
Yeah if we had 1 corruption cleanse zealot
I wish they made it so likewise classes had synergies.
Originally I thought they nerfed scavenger to be 1% every 5 seconds because they were going to let it stack
Like even if there were diminishing returns it would've been interesting
The 4 purity zealots walking up to the demonhost to bully it with their -6 corruption per second
Mobility
wait really
yuh huh
i have a 65r max dueling sword i tought i had to change it
You can have 60% mobility and still have the great dodges of dueling sword
Which variant
The second dump stat would be cleave targets, but that affects Unarmored damage a little
IV dumps cleave damage
thats the stat i have at 75 lmao
Is Penetration
Which you do on the mk5, for the funny dodges
As long as you have Uncanny Strike
wait no mine s cleave damage,thats different?
Oh silly me was dumpin mobility, on my way to update it, thanks
Eh it just affects Unarmored, Infested damage a little
Not enough to worry about
Specially because you have grenades for hordes
Do you know if dodges are capped at 15%?
I technically have a 16% dodge distance DS, but on the tooltip for the weapon is always says 15%
I could probably go test easily with weapon specialist tbh nvm
im bringing it to 500 then
whats the useless stat on recon?
was thinking of collateral
(if it does what the name says)
Collateral
aight thanks!
also,how do i get the weapons rolled how i want them? do i just wait for them to appear in the shop or theres other ways?
is gambling on inquisitorum worth it?
yup
transcendet recon
500
still
not good roll
imma just try to gamble XD
wow trascendet first try
I remember a time where everyone kept telling me "mobility is the dump stat for IV" and I was like
"???????????????"
"why I just use it to poke and crit farm as Zealot, why would you even need cleave damage"
I was proven right, funnily enough
I don't see CT as dump target so you're still wrong

Anyways
At 60% Cleave Damage, with Precognition up
You'll meet breakpoints for Groaners (unarmored) on lights,
Both Shotgunners on heavies, Scab Gunner on heavies
But you're 200 Dmg off on Dreg Gunners
Yeah CT affects your unarmored, infested and flak damage
Except flak is bugged
deathspitter/dum dum for recon?
dumdum infernus
The alternative to Deathspitter is infernus

i have infernus alr
Dumdum stays no matter what
stick with it, you need it
How goes it?
house on fire, fried too hard
I was taking a nap out of boredom.
eating & now playing
Ah.
@unreal nova you ready or what
Don't you have a 4 man?
Why would I be when dead game at this hour? I fell asleep before.
What map was it
KARIEN DID IT!
Karien is ready for true solo havoc now
Nu.
Rolling steel is so easy now
Peep. Been a while since i last visited here. How's everyone doing? Healthy i hope? Good? Being cute? x3
All good! How are yo?
Same on my part.
Have not palyed much Danktide recently. So i got back onto it today. A bit of warming up but yea..... game's fun!
Tis as fun as ever
update wen
no update lol
30 of this month
do you crit enough with recon las that headhunter isnt rly needed on havoc
headhunter's ok as a third blessing
Not reeallly
As far as I've seen like you can make it with just the crit chance talent and a crit chance perk for the recon
You're still looking at dumdum and Infernus/deathspitter
(it's a joke, there is no third blessing slot after all)
You don't really need headhunter at all for recon tbh
nah if there's 3rd it'd be deathspitter
Oh i forgor to mention
The secret 3rd blessing slot that comes when you run the shovel with
Uncanny, Thrust, and hotshot on a helbore
3 blessings

true true
Well, is he killing things in melee? If yes, I don't see the issue unless this is auric damnation.
HE WAMNTS TO SHOOTE
lol
what do you think
650% ammo taken
to do the least damage on the team
honestly i prob didn't even need 4 ammo tins
could've just gotten by with none
but i didn't want to give him ammo, because he would've just sprayed them into pox hordes anyway
Excellent
This is how darktide is truly meant to be played
patrolling the mojave repeatedly trying the no damage penance makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Ah melee hp
K
Im a vet chad using lasgun ammo stat as dump because anyone not using shocktrooper+lasgun is trolling
Was not expecting this.ngl
Why is the ogryn tweaking
lmao average veteran player
just finished another match, where i had a guy just like him
vet
5 wounds
most ammo taken
least damage done
the best way to deal with these people is to start hogging ammo so they starve and die because none of them know how to melee for shit
recon las
i did that to the psycho guy
unfortunately doesn't work on psyker fatshark has seen to that 
yeah i assumed he was running exec stance or something
no, he was running infil bolter, with dclaw
for lobotomized individuals all they need to have is someone spoonfeed the info to them that they should equip something like rashad or psword depending on whether they have 1 neuron or two
lmao
yeah well he didn't get the memo
thats a funny specimen
I actually miss back when all the rage were like, guardsman larpers
Tbh I always feel like these kind of games you almost have to have a private group of friends to get an enjoyable experience
but for a good while darktide I feel has been good enough that I enjoyed playing it alone with randos, its just the buff everything craze that has watered down the teammate quality by a lot
i mostly just can't stand people actively griefling, like these sort of players
or people being very selfish
Havoc is supposed to fix this except uh.. party finder is honestly terrible
otherwise i have no expectations of teammates
Havoc games still happen?
Everytime i look party finder's dead as shit
Probably? Its not particularly a fun mode so it will probably be abandoned eventually
to tell you the truth I'm impressed its still alive at all
you have to go to discord speed dating sessions to find people to play with
but with auric becoming so trivial I guess there isnt much else to go for
I gave up on it after not being able to find anybody that could fuckin break past havoc 23 and 24 so I could get the pants and move up
Oh well
That's every co op game tbh
With friends or on comms it's much more pleasant
fatshark will read this message and go nerf some %0.1 playrate weapon's bugged interaction to fix this problem.
I just have host priviledges in other co-op games because I'm either hosting or my friends are hosting so I don't have to tolerate whoever it is that is miffing me
I could hold my own well enough til I just got overwhelmed because the teams I had every team had 1-2 idjits that should've stuck to playing sedition
With darktide we've kicked players that just joined right back in lmao
only blocking works I believe, and you have a block limit
That's true but I mostly meant with friends you know each other and how you play and can coordinate and stuff
In pubs it's a dice roll but that's half of the fun
nah that doesn't work in all games
in something like DRG hell yea fun
playing helldivers I'm fighting the new stalker patrols, some mf deploys mortar turret
you already know who is getting booted
I should play more Helldivers
Got it for free played for few hours then friends dipped on me and not feeling playing it solo 
its fun for a while but gets on my nerves if I ever take it seriously
DRG is a better game for that lol
how could u ever take hd2 seriously
I think its the random nature of hd2 that you just can't take it too seriously or it will be miserable
Because I played it before it was a giant meme
ragdolls alone make that game hilarious
and then it became a giant meme so I stopped caring
the game was always a meme
all they had to do was fix the ragdoll, fix some bugs and game was S tier
I don't take any od these games seriously unless I'm doing hardest diffs cause if u don't take these seriously you're grieving
Its the game you play now to like, kill time
cause it still gets regular monthly content
meanwhile darktide gets a new fomo mechanic most players will do once and abandon or don't even touch it lmao
chubby chowder content cycle
I love rank decay btw really motivates me to give randoms a chance 
I play darktide purely for the gameplay ngl
Idc about new content cause I could just finish leveling up my other classes
Maybe new maps would be nice but that's it
they watered down the gameplay
thats the issue
ig its still hard for some because ofc there will be someone that still finds anything at all difficult
like when the helldivers drama was happening
''difficulty 6 is too difficult''
common sentiment
All I know about the drama is people babyraged about nerfs then everything got buffed and that pleased everyone but the sweats
youtubers babyraged hard
got what they wanted
there was a silver lining there that arrowhead really did fuck up hard at some point
All they needed was to address their fuck-up instead of letting the game rot and double down on their disaster patch
Also it traumatized a generation of gamers
Now whenever a game dares to nerf anything the steam negative reviews start pouring in
Space marine nerfs few op stuff and all hell breaks loose even tho they buffed more than nerfed
space marine fans are also the same breed of morons
I still remember when that game was hailed by ''helldivers killer'' by all those helldivers crytubers
do you know what happened when SM2 came out?
They cried about SM2
Oh no I can't spam GL (kill everything) and get all my ammo back every 30 seconds? Helldivers all over again bro
''I don't have enough ammo'', crybaby addicted to having full refills on demand every 120 seconds
Two completely see different games lol
Now SM2 did very bad on melee system, that was what failed it hard in the end, but be real that games co-op was always an afterthought for the dev team and all the youtubers hyped it up to be something it never was
Melee is fine just needs tweaks
Game ain't even a failure when u consider the appeal for most people is campaign and everything else is extra
commercially its a success, that don't mean much to me though
I also didn't like the campaign that much
as in
it was mid
I played shitton so I like it a lot 
besides a lot of soypog moments like oh look its the model they got it so accurate
or like ''o look big death coffin threw a big rock at big bird''
like yeah very cool
but like, I was disappointment with story
it was a repeat of the previous game
The story was very fuckin short, ill say that
very similar elements, short and ended at a cliffhanger at that
Like 3 worlds and we only get 1-3 missions per each?
This take is a ''bait'' because it angers space marine fans 
I literally just wanted cool shit from the story and I got cool shit
The whole game is marketed as funny throwback type of game
Idk why anyone expected a 20 hour indepth narrative or tide game tier complexity
Idk champ
I paid about similar money to stuff like cyberpunk, witcher etc whatnot
I think that campaign could have more
and it probably would have more
if not for having to include the co-op
I think they cut like half the game to make the co-op, thats genuinely what I believe
I put 100 hours was worth the 40 
nah cyberpunk was worth every hour, so was witcher
I think I put... 50? To SM2
it was ok
just mid
like if not for warhammer talk I'd forget about it already
Well the co op missions are literally secondary campaign missions
U can hardcope by saying the full campaign experience is doing both in 1 run 
Space marine 2 pvp is pointless anyway when you either have 2 idiots sitting their fat asses behind heavy or bulwark all game long
Makes all the other classes useless
except you play as random unimportant side-characters, imagine if they cut half of witcher 3 so you get to play as Geralt's random witcher friend or something
it kinda cuts away the campaign
Cyberpunk and Witcher are in my top games but if I'm gonna hold every game to the same standard I won't be paying full price for anything 
Like come on ffs half of the dialog with the captain is ''best I can do is 3 men'' lmao
Exactly, I don't pay full price for almost anything
But the missions are basically what happens in the background when titus sends a second squad 
because almost nothing is worth the asking price anymore
Some people have gaming as their only hobby or have stupid disposable income and feel different
I buy most things on sale anyway but can't complain about 100 something hours I enjoyed in sm2
I don't even judge enjoyment on the hour
Imagine If people were like man bioshock is amazing but it's 15 hours meeehhhh
Sure, that doesn't make it immune to critique however
Yeah that goes without saying
Whatever it is that you like someone will trash it for one or another reason
thats just life
That's normal 
