veteran-class

[calm shard]

8 is so fucking trash

[hollow ibex]

[light ridge]

Ilisi

[drifting verge]

Oh god

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-judging-gif-7737049233510949865

[drifting verge]

Look what you did

[crisp oak]

If you are using the ilas you need to hit heads, recon can meme a bit, infantry auto can work

[orchid hemlock]

8.........

Deez

[crisp oak]

Plasma means you dont really gotta aim as much

[drifting verge]

Kinda wish there was a stubber lmg for veteran

[calm shard]

don't we all

[drifting verge]

I like heavy guns

And don’t say Ogryn

[calm shard]

I mean it's right there on the talent tree

[crisp oak]

I mean there is the iag

Which is the closest

Or bolter

[drifting verge]

Nah I don’t need big bullet

I just need

Big gun

Big ammo count

[crisp oak]

Gun is big and goes boom

[light ridge]

Just give us a lascannon

[drifting verge]

I love me a bolter

On a space marine

Except bolt pistols

Bolt pistols are cool

[crisp oak]

IAG then, it has like 400 bullets

[drifting verge]

I like em

[crisp oak]

Bolter is a good problem solver gun

[drifting verge]

How big is the shooting mag not reserve

[crisp oak]

"Oh a crusher patrol, time to solve the problem"

[calm shard]

Like...60 I think?

For the Vraks

[crisp oak]

Ranges from 35-60

[drifting verge]

Not enough

[crisp oak]

Anyway plasma is probably the best problem solver other than nades

Bolt pistol buffs nades

[uncut pebble]

I never said I'd carry. :)

[faint beacon]

Well plasma is overpowered so that’s why it’s the best problem solver

[uncut pebble]

You've got a horrible habit of putting words into other people's mouths.

[crisp oak]

Plasma is the handgun of vt2 but aoe

[terse idol]

Hmmm

Well aoe with a magazine

[tropic halo]

that sway my good lord

[hollow ibex]

Lol and you have a horrible habit of ignoring the context of any conversation.

[calm shard]

yeah Ilas gets hit hard by suppression

[faint beacon]

The only gun in the game that severely suffers being suppressed lmao

[calm shard]

Not the only one

Infantry Autoguns have it too

[crisp oak]

Hellbore

[faint beacon]

Literally take Determined or suffer

[crisp oak]

[faint beacon]

Not really no lmao

[calm shard]

Helbore is unaffected by suppression

The combat shotguns are also heavily affected by suppression but who the fuck uses those

[hollow ibex]

And frog here was trying to tell me determined isn't a point tax on ilas.

[crisp oak]

Is it, maybe I confused being yeeted by gunners to be suppression (pre gunner nerf/buff)

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I mean if you want the game to be a pain in the ass don't take it

[faint beacon]

For how Veteran plays you have to take it only on ILAS unless you’re running like Blue ILAS and hip firing

[calm shard]

I don't take determined with my gun vet build and I use ilas on it

(because I use exe stance and counterfire and it's almost always active)

[crisp oak]

Is the pistol also affected?

[faint beacon]

Exec is the only way to counter it outside of just

[drifting verge]

This entire time you have put words in their mouth and repeatedly said they haven’t explained why the I
Las isn’t mid when they have and you’ve only responded with rec las better when they haven’t said the infantry was better than recon they just said infantry isn’t bad

[faint beacon]

Using determined

[calm shard]

or the blessing that removes suppression for 3 whole seconds on a headshot

[hollow ibex]

Wasn't even talking to you. Go bother someone else.

[drifting verge]

No

[uncut pebble]

Between the eyes.

(Worse ghost)

[calm shard]

You run it with ghost if you don't have another form of suppression immunity

[crisp oak]

Anyway, ilas is good if you hit heads well, recon is just crit max and spray, hellbore is fun

[calm shard]

I use it +headhunter on Psyker because baked in ghost on crits lmao

[crisp oak]

Shredder autopistol is s++

[uncut pebble]

You don't even run it to begin with.

Chain ghost hits enough and you can't be suppressed.

[crisp oak]

Only gun that allows pacifist runs

[terse idol]

Pay the suppression immunity talent

[crisp oak]

Because you cannot kill shit with it

[calm shard]

You...do know you still get suppressed even if you're not being hit by the bullets right?

[terse idol]

ACHTUSHLLY

[calm shard]

They just have to be near you

If you're in cover or dodging them you still take suppression

[terse idol]

BEING A PACIFIST IS TO DO NO VIOLENCE

[crisp oak]

Exactly its not violence to shoot someone with a shredder

[uncut pebble]

Then ig I never noticed because I almost always have determined.

[crisp oak]

Its just good old fashioned paintball

[drifting verge]

Ew no violence?

[calm shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714231026183962726/1219713894457671771/20240319_142607.gif

[crisp oak]

The shredder has a lot of bullets

[drifting verge]

Someone get this mf back to his pleasure/garden world

[crisp oak]

And it will make you use all of them

To kill a dreg rager

[drifting verge]

I want VIOLENCE

[hollow ibex]

Shredder is a heretic tickling machine

[drifting verge]

revs chainsword

[crisp oak]

Shredder also has nutty good suppression

Since it fires at mach 10

[hollow ibex]

Holy munitions spent on giving heretics massages

[crisp oak]

Id like to see it buffed tbh

[crisp oak]

It shoots 9 mill thats not gonna hurt anyone

[faint beacon]

This is why I murder people

[tropic halo]

three stealth vets

[drifting verge]

What is a “stealth”

[crisp oak]

One of the ways to play a pacifist game

[raw needle]

only cowards use it to play as a pacifist and not to kill shit while having it ignore you

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-sister-mei-stroking-my-chicken-cat-meme-gif-7389712976986151019

[crisp oak]

See I just use voc

Because making me feel like a cloaker is nice, but the cd is rough

[tropic halo]

Now deal with the two uses

https://tenor.com/view/evil-ambrz-cat-fading-smile-smile-fade-gif-7045864595609206640

[hollow ibex]

Stealth is fun.

Esp clutching with it

[vernal trench]

And i bet none of them know how to use it

Lmfao what happened

[hollow ibex]

We just had some unfortunate runs with people who weren't ready for h40

Same old

[hollow ibex]

I mean it's not that hard. When you see a crusher and bulwark horde you just press F and dump all the aggro on the freak behind you

[light ridge]

More fun to do it with a poxburster, suddenly it's their problem as it runs passed you

[vernal trench]

Did he not carry

[vernal trench]

Thats what everyone does

[vernal trench]

Na thats valid the amount of times i got almost killed or kileld by teamates not knowing how to deal with bursters

[hollow ibex]

Nah. And I certainly didn't either lol. But I think I did ok considering it was my first time in h40

[vernal trench]

Lmao ill play with u

Doubt that guy knows what hes doing

[hollow ibex]

Tbh when that happens I can't blame teammates for pushing bursters into me lol

[hollow ibex]

No pressure. You'll have to be good to carry me.

[vernal trench]

Na whenever i hear a burster i go all the way behind all my teamates

[vernal trench]

Depends on the other 2 teamates

I cant solo the game unless its on archivum

[hollow ibex]

Yeah that was the issue with our run.

[vernal trench]

How many times frog guy went down

Oh yea i dont even have a 40 i got a 39

[hollow ibex]

Well it was usually the level 60 that'd go down first. Then the macroing purg psyker, then me or frog

[vernal trench]

Lmfao

What did u guys even run

[uncut pebble]

(the level 60 was better in every way compared to the purg macro btw)

[hollow ibex]

Frog was doing gunker. I did vet and book boy

[vernal trench]

Tons of golden toughness

[hollow ibex]

Really? Felt like he was going down all the time. And he kept mag dumping bolter until you told him not to

[uncut pebble]

Basically we did fine until we had to fight armor and then the random teammates folded like omelettes.

[vernal trench]

How long did u guys even last

[uncut pebble]

They did not know how to fight armor.

[vernal trench]

Cux armored are everywhere

[faint beacon]

The Gunker getting shot once while EE is down and bursting into flames

[uncut pebble]

Made it past the drop down after first event on refinery delta.

[hollow ibex]

The purg psyker with DS folding against four crushers

[uncut pebble]

Then double boss + armor wave ate us alive.

[vernal trench]

what first event

The first event is killing the tentacles

[uncut pebble]

Yes, that would be the first event.

Go up the elevator, run through that little bit before the respawn point, and then there's the drop-down.

[vernal trench]

Atleast u made it past half pf it

[uncut pebble]

As soon as you touch boots to the ground on the drop-down, two bosses spawn.

[vernal trench]

I remember stompt and me basically doing that map by ourselves

He did everything in the final event

[uncut pebble]

I was actually getting whacked in melee, mostly.

[vernal trench]

Stompt on shroudfield is unstoppable

[vernal trench]

Ye

Did u go into that little room on the side?

[faint beacon]

They Agro dump or actually do their job

Keep running into 1k level zealots who only use it to Agro dump and it’s incredibly fucking annoying

[uncut pebble]

Yeah. Right after two bursters ate one of the randoms for breakfast from the spawn door that's right there.

[vernal trench]

[vernal trench]

Seen maybe one or two in my lifetime

People dont know how to play stealth abilities in general

Never seen a single good infiltrate vet

[uncut pebble]

I voiped like 6 times "get away from the door" and they ignored me until two bursters jumped out like the fucking kool aid man and belly flopped him to death.

[faint beacon]

Inshallah, smite the unbeliever down

[vernal trench]

Lmfao

Noobs dont know how to ppay

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/muslim-gif-9650524196701892111

[vernal trench]

Heresy

Whats the hoghest havoc u done sirosky

[hollow ibex]

Just the 40 runs with frog, otherwise a few 20 or 30? with gale and path

Usually when gale was about to demote because of pubbies

[vernal trench]

Runs?

How many did u guys lose

[hollow ibex]

Assignment level

[hollow ibex]

With gale and path the winrate was pretty high

[vernal trench]

I demote a ton cuz of pubs lmao

Sometimes they wipe within 2 minutes

[hollow ibex]

Helps that we only have one random

And 3 of us on VC

[vernal trench]

U guys better not be stacking golden toughness like theres no tomorrow

[hollow ibex]

Also it's lower havoc, this was relatively early on

[hollow ibex]

[vernal trench]

Damn

I dont got a 40 and im not gonna be doing much if everyone dies in the ambush area on my dark communion

[grand lintel]

I want to level up masteries for my weapons but man it's always such an ordeal going through special condition heresy missions with some of these weapons lmao

[vernal trench]

Buy grays

Upgrade to green

Sacrifice them

[hollow ibex]

Yeah just power level then tbh

[vernal trench]

200-300k later and boom ur maxed out on a mastery

[hollow ibex]

Or get a good one from melks and level using that

[loud belfry]

Quick level mastery mod

[grand lintel]

yeah but i feel like I should probably a feel for using different weapons and not just the same 4 ones

[orchid hemlock]

I got every weapon to mastery 20 on day one

[grand lintel]

though malice is too easy even with underlevelled masteries on weapons i'm not familiar with

[orchid hemlock]

Fatshark please let me use my resources

[vernal trench]

How much u got

[steep flower]

Even tho when we played on that map the invis strat to take care of the shooters/gunners in the back was

[orchid hemlock]

10 mill orthos

100k pla

50k Dia

[vernal trench]

invis is awesome

[vernal trench]

Thats not that much u gonna run out of plasteel if u upgrade stuff pretty easily

[vernal trench]

Wanna play papa i gotta get back up to 40

And then we can carry this siroksy guy

[orchid hemlock]

I already have 3 copies of every weapon in the game for every class all maxed out

[vernal trench]

Damn

[grand lintel]

I probably have enough for levelling up veterans stuff though, i might do it with the heavy las pistol tbh because this weapon seems like a much worse version of the rifle lmao

[vernal trench]

Thats a lot of maelstroms to get that much materials

[vernal trench]

17k plasteel u wont be enough to even max one level from 1-20

Or maybe it will be idk

[grand lintel]

then why even suggest that as an option this is literally like 70 hours worth of materials lmao

[vernal trench]

But its definitely not enough to roll a good weapon and max it

[vernal trench]

Damn

If u play auric maelstroms

[wanton dawn]

I think i have 25millions, 300k 300k mat & a LOT of milk coin too

[vernal trench]

Its like 700 plasteel a game minimum

[steep flower]

Gimme 20 mins; gonna resupply liquid nosh

[vernal trench]

Sure thing papa

[grand lintel]

you just need 60% on the dump stat dont you?

[vernal trench]

@hollow ibex u wanna play with me and papa?

[vernal trench]

Yea

Takes a while sometimes

[grand lintel]

that doesnt take much materials at all?

i've got a few weapons like that

[orchid hemlock]

I think what I used to do a long time ago is just spam quickplay norms with +30% orthos on my curios as a stealth knife Zealot

[vernal trench]

Jesus

Thats too tedious

[vernal trench]

Depends on what weapon

Some of it can take a lot of dockets

[wanton dawn]

Ppl farm mat ?

[vernal trench]

Yea

[wanton dawn]

Damn

[vernal trench]

I dont gotta farm

Havoc feeds it to me

Idk what to do with it

[grand lintel]

these 3 and some melee weapons are the ones i've bothered to max out like that

[orchid hemlock]

Stealth is pretty garbage in maels due to the density of hordes, but in norms you can force objectives and picking people up

[vernal trench]

Yea plasma gun has a very specific stat distribution

Its not 60% dump stat

[wanton dawn]

I mean... i have enough mat for 10 ppl

[orchid hemlock]

Just lit speed run the map

[grand lintel]

why wouldnt you dump charge rate, dont people just spam left click?

[vernal trench]

Na the more trash enemies there are the better shroudfield is

[orchid hemlock]

On average I completed each run in 10-15 minutes

[vernal trench]

U can keep up ur shroudfield almost the entite game

[iron silo]

charge rate effects left click as well

[vernal trench]

Charge rate affects left click

[wanton dawn]

Affect shot speed regardless

[vernal trench]

got no money cuz i dont play anything aside havocs LMFAO

[grand lintel]

oh neat, didn't know that

[orchid hemlock]

You can do the same for fury, but no u can't be stealth the majority of the game due to how how invocation works now

[hollow ibex]

What region are you guys? I'm NA West usually

[vernal trench]

eu

u gonna lag like shit

[hollow ibex]

Oof

[grand lintel]

whats the specific distribution for plasma gun then? just so i know what to look out for

[hollow ibex]

Yeah that's not going to be great

Maybe over the weekend

[vernal trench]

u can stealth majority of the game

[wanton dawn]

200ms for ye

[hollow ibex]

@tired egret

[vernal trench]

just backstab and crit

[grand lintel]

lmao

[vernal trench]

guy must get pinged a lot

no fucking way

they rotated back infantryman krastov

[orchid hemlock]

Backstabbing a mixed horde is dependent on your positioning

Crit CDR doesn't stack anymore so the best you cna do is shave off 15 seconds as long as the buff is up the whole time

[vernal trench]

na u can pretty much get invis back within 5 stacks by backstabbing and critting

if u kill 5 enemies with 5 backstab its instant

[orchid hemlock]

OK my dude, whatever you say

The point is that I use stealth to force objectives because I'm not waiting for the rest of my team to do them

[vernal trench]

lmao

ive seen stompt literalyl invis his way out of an entire auric maelstrom on refinery delta doing it

[trim badger]

I'm new to vet but couldn't shout do that if you're quick with your fingers?

[vernal trench]

teh few games i played on zealot i can just be in and out of shroudfield instantly if the setup is right

[trim badger]

Unless train or tree :v

[vernal trench]

pretty much instant in some cases

[raw needle]

was it a flat amount? i thought it was 20%

[vernal trench]

its 20%

backstab is

5 backstab kills and its 100%

[orchid hemlock]

I already do that on Fury, I know it can be done on Stealth

But it isn't as consistent as what it used to be when the crit CDR was proced per crit hit

[sleek garden]

Vet Infiltrate is better for doing utility stuff than zealot cloak

[vernal trench]

yea

[orchid hemlock]

In that scenerio yeah you basically are invisible 80% of the game literally because you do a heavy knife attack on the horde and proc it 6 times when you crit

[raw needle]

im pretty sure you cant cause backstab cdr has a cooldown

[vernal trench]

yea but survivability is way way worse

[raw needle]

like 0.3 sec

[vernal trench]

thats why shroudfield is op infiltrate isnt as much unless u know how to use it

[sleek garden]

infiltrate I always saw as an aggressive tool as well or an escape in some situations

[vernal trench]

it is

[raw needle]

Melee kills while backstabbing reduce the remaining ability cooldown by 20%; has a 0.2s internal cooldown. This is 6s for Fury of the Faithful and Shroudfield (7.5s with Perfectionist), and 12s for Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude. 'Backstabbing' refers to melee attacks executed from within a specific angle[i.imgur.com] behind an enemy's back.

[vernal trench]

ur not gonna be using it constantl like shroudfield

[wanton dawn]

Infiltrate is only op in the sense of soloing maps

[sleek garden]

Yeah

They do different things

[vernal trench]

its good for regular games as well

[sleek garden]

I was really bad at cloak

[vernal trench]

its really not op for soloing maps cuz of the long ass cd

[raw needle]

infiltrate is arguably better in aggroing crusher patrols and dumping them on your team

[sleek garden]

Infiltrate i use to sprint at enemies and drop frags/smokes at my feet and start shooting

[raw needle]

cause no aggro

[wanton dawn]

Yeah i know, i usually encounter it in pubs when i play ex bolter

Guess why i dont like it

[vernal trench]

pretty much instant

wdym proc it

oh i see ty

[raw needle]

only the ogs remember shroudfield sprint cancelling

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-sister-mei-stroking-my-chicken-cat-meme-gif-7389712976986151019

[vernal trench]

i dont play zealot so idk a lot of the zealot shit lmfao

[crisp oak]

Is that infinite shroudfield

[vernal trench]

yea i just tried it its really good

[raw needle]

yes

[crisp oak]

So many twins solos

[raw needle]

the "run through the whole map then server crash"

i abused the shit out of archivum something something mael that had 100k+ docket rewards

[crisp oak]

It was early twins

[wanton dawn]

I dont see ya play vet with me that much atm

Rofl

[orchid hemlock]

Vet moment

[wanton dawn]

Guess ill have to spice it up somehow

[vernal trench]

imagine being psyker

[wanton dawn]

Maybe i should try bolter zealot

Ye. But i know how to switch it up

[vernal trench]

cavalcade and puncture for zealot

[raw needle]

shattering and puncture*

[vernal trench]

that works too but better for vet

imma try that on zealot

[raw needle]

vet is better with surgical imo, although that's a whole different playstyle

[wanton dawn]

I mostly need to get comfy with build. Also get my zealot to 30

Get the 4-leaf clover achievement

After 1500h

[raw needle]

there used to be a datamined blessing that gave bolter ironhelm styled cleave rounds

[vernal trench]

help me get m 39 up to 40

i got 1 try

yea idc

[wanton dawn]

Cant, am hanging out and havent eaten yet.

[vernal trench]

dark communion

john darktide??

oh yea i got blight

cranial and blight

we can get papa as well theres no shot were losing with that

sure

i need to warm up anyway

DUDE THE GODGRYN IS ON

[trim badger]

This is like the worst possible combo you could get IMO

[wanton dawn]

Am french. This is the eating before eating rn

The fk it is called in english

"Apero"

[vernal trench]

wait lemme do one real qucik

i gott aplay with the 1.8 mil ogryn

na

ketejok

u know him?

[wanton dawn]

Nah, appetizer is not exactly it

That would be appetizer yeah

It is also the act of hanging out informally with a bit of food before properly getting to table

Ok, now dinner

Peace !

[sleek garden]

I'm not so good at havoc

My favorite weapons work really poorly

[trim badger]

Become a meta slave...

[orchid hemlock]

https://youtu.be/QSqQ8qWGCOI?si=4z7guunetMIKB_yX

[trim badger]

Well of course, dating girls IS the meta

[orchid hemlock]

Real girls are not comparable to Hadron 😔

[trim badger]

Hadron scares me

[tropic halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263278871651024898/1338246971433160747/2mt1wzcmzyge1.gif

[steep flower]

I'm back

and ready

[orchid hemlock]

Me when Kendrick dropped the: "40 acres and a mule" line at the Superbowl

[vernal trench]

in a game with godgryn rn

[steep flower]

how long till you free? i have my own friend to bring 2

[faint beacon]

[oblique totem]

Impossible.

[trim badger]

You're not following the meta..? Wow ok

Votekick

[oblique totem]

Rude

[vernal trench]

we finisghed

[steep flower]

nice; any vc?

[vernal trench]

1s lemme eat

godgryn goes hard bro

[steep flower]

MSG me when you're done

[vernal trench]

ok

[light ridge]

Started feeling that I'm too used to Infiltration, play shout in PUGs again, regrets it

Not to mention 2 out of 3 missions start at the end screen...

[vernal trench]

ur prolly not using infiltrate right if u struggle to use shout after switching to it

shout is so much easier

[light ridge]

Avoiding crap from PUGs is harder

[vernal trench]

yea its impossible

[hollow ibex]

Revive shout makes me want to kms

[tropic halo]

The cooldown increase..

[vernal trench]

come join us

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042909101266579467 @hollow ibex

[hollow ibex]

I'm at work. I'm 9 hours behind CET

[vernal trench]

damn

[hollow ibex]

It'd have to be during the weekend prob

[vernal trench]

riparoo

[sleek garden]

No

But

I feel like it's necessary for 40

I had a team let me stay after we failed the first attempt of a 40 and on the second I was the last one alive

[vernal trench]

no its not

[sleek garden]

I fought a scab captain alone with a devil's claw

[vernal trench]

ur coming with us on our 40 rn

we need a 4th to carry

[sleek garden]

for nearly 2 minutes uninterrupted

[trim badger]

It's not necessary, but it does help a lot

[sleek garden]

And he regenerated his shield

[trim badger]

Especially if you wanna go for True Survivor

[sleek garden]

that's how little damage non meta is doing

Nonstop parries

[vernal trench]

my powersword does enough damage

[sleek garden]

That's power sword

I'm thinking of devils claw and chainsword

[vernal trench]

chainsword bad

[sleek garden]

but I like chain sword

So I play aurics

[vernal trench]

u on rn chris my crocodile friend

[sleek garden]

Crocodile?

[vernal trench]

green lizard

crocodile

[sleek garden]

No I'm waiting for my class to be done

[vernal trench]

fuck

[wanton dawn]

Howdyohw

[sleek garden]

no the thing in my profile picture is a dragon

If you click on him it talks

[trim badger]

It's so sad that I started playing the game and fell in love with the chainsword

One month later and they add Duelling sword to vet/zealot, making me never use chainsword again

[vernal trench]

damn

[wanton dawn]

Chainsword is pain

[sleek garden]

Simply don't use duelling sword

But also I'm assuming a lot of people only play havoc now

[wanton dawn]

I play havoc without ds

[vernal trench]

na

[sleek garden]

I stay in aurics after a few weeks of havoc

[hollow ibex]

I do aurics or AM usually as well

I just want to QP

[sleek garden]

It was too sweaty I just want to run around and headshot dudes with an infantry autogun then slice people with a chainsword

Columnus Infantry autogun is infantry awful in havoc 40

[trim badger]

Ok but like, I use it because I love it more

[sleek garden]

Okay then power move by using chainsword on psyker

[trim badger]

I don't use it because it's better, but because it's the closest thing to Victor Saltzpyre

:)

And I love poking heads

[sleek garden]

My favorite psker weapon is obscurus force sword

[vernal trench]

anyone playin havoc rn

[wanton dawn]

sure hit me

[vernal trench]

aight come 40k

[trim badger]

Yeah I only play havoc now

Trying to get the clothes

[sleek garden]

Personally not a fan of all black

[trim badger]

While I level up my vet on the sidestep

[sleek garden]

so I am not too worried

[trim badger]

(god starting a vet from 0 and walking as slow as a snail hurts)

[hollow ibex]

Early vet really sucks ass

[sleek garden]

I had to hard carry my friends when they were new and I played level 0 vet to stay with them

it was kinda fun

To be honest I don't really play that different

[trim badger]

My vet is level 7 and even with knife he feels slow LOL

[sleek garden]

I use the base weapons lol

Like they start you with a shovel and devils claw and a lasgun

I still use those the most

[sleek garden]

you need a match with 3 other guys below level 10 and fight a mauler on malice it's like a miniboss

[trim badger]

Like I go quickplay on Malice and it genuienly took me like 10 headshot knife stabs for him to die

[sleek garden]

everyone is beating the crap out him with axes

[sleek garden]

you're low level

You should be aiming for the chest

penetration stat hasn't scaled

[trim badger]

Ah...

[sleek garden]

Yeah it's easy to forget that their heads are the armored part lol

[trim badger]

No worries, I'll eventually get level 10 and roll a god duelling sword

:3

And then get my hands on a plasma...

[sleek garden]

my devils claw has 1 attack that is more effective to the head than body and it's the light strikedown

[trim badger]

I need to speedrun it to level 30, get good curios and straight into havoc

[sleek garden]

No

Play around with the guns

Shotgun feels better on low levels than high levels

because they might actually kill someone

My fun loadouts are usually the worst for carapace fighting though

I play devils claw or eviscerator zealot

[trim badger]

I mean if you're telling me plasma will not kill stuff at low level, it's hard to believe

[trim badger]

I do that once I get through the hard stuff

That's what I did with Zealot at least

[sleek garden]

you don't usually have a choice during levelling though

[trim badger]

First tryhard then chill in auric with all non meta stuff

[trim badger]

Not like I want to choose many options tho, once I get plasma/duelling I'm set for the leveling up and hardest parts

And only after that the funsy weapons will start being used

[void dragon]

is braced autogun supposed to feel this... unreliable? weapon not only lacks precision for long targets and the spread means no much on weakspot damage, but it also feels like it doesnt put as much punch as it should

[trim badger]

It does good stagger

I do use it lots on Zealot auric because ez stagger and toughness regeneration

[void dragon]

really? how does one look for a zealot? what mk and blessings are for it?

[severe gale]

use agri braced auto

and don’t brace

[severe gale]

agripinna, deathspitter and fire frenzy

flak maniac

[tall torrent]

Go recon instead if you’re starting out on veteran

[void dragon]

thanks, will give it a try when i get a good one for it

[severe gale]

dump mobility

iirc collateral has a hidden modifier on agri

[tall torrent]

Mk8 braced autogun doesn’t have collateral

It has stopping power instead

[void dragon]

stopping power dictates damage so that's no dump

[severe gale]

ohg

[void dragon]

and i dont think movility makes you have more dodges

[severe gale]

oops

[severe gale]

it doesn’t

dump mobility

[tall torrent]

No, just 2 dodges

The other 2 braced autogun can dump collateral instead

To run a little faster

[trim badger]

But what if... Pew pew from plasma

[tall torrent]

Significantly harder to perfect roll + requires way more melee participation + worse ammo economy

[trim badger]

I'm okay with melee participation, I love Zealot

But the other two points are good yeah...

[tall torrent]

Besides on plasma I don’t think duelling sword is worth much

Axe is better

[trim badger]

Might go recon then for the meanwhile

[tall torrent]

Power sword is better

[trim badger]

I'm just used to meleeing with duelling more than anything

My headshot rate goes crazy with it

[tall torrent]

Cuz u actually need a melee that handles everything given plasma’s ammo situation

[trim badger]

Doesn't duelling handle everything tho?

[tall torrent]

Well

[trim badger]

The worst part of it being maybe hordes

[tall torrent]

12x worse horde clear compared to axe

And u don’t have that much to do against large rager waves

It’s a little better vs crusher & mauler, equal ish vs unyielding, significantly worse vs horde and mixed horde

Compared to axe anyway

[trim badger]

Good thing I have the special stagger button for duelling

And holding block

I'll eventually unlock voice of command as well

[tall torrent]

Yea, just for smaller groups of them

[trim badger]

Ok I don't think I'm gonna be capable of dealing with whatever the world throws at me regardless of loadout until I'm level 30~ or so

[tall torrent]

It’s comparatively not nearly as good as like axe / power sword for really getting into melee brawl with mixed horde

Besides it gives people really bad habits in melee

[sleek garden]

I think going into the game with the mindset of grabbing the best weapons and speed running is sad

[trim badger]

What I normally do is this but after beating the hard stuff then starting to play off meta

Just to have fun and learn the alternatives

But most of my excitement/pleasure comes from beating the harder stuff

That's what I'm saying!!! I main witch hunter captain in VT2, no wonder I fell in love with duelling

[tall torrent]

Depends on ur weapons
There’re several strong weapons but they don’t always mix & match that well

Some of them have very high point cost

[orchid hemlock]

Not if it's puss harden

[supple stag]

Modded 🤢

[terse idol]

Tbh class makes or breaks things in vt2

You couuuld

Get away with alot of weapons imo

I thought it was harder

[supple stag]

[terse idol]

There is nothing equivalent to getting stabbed by a naked slave rat with a spear and taking 1/3rd of your hp

[loud belfry]

I like how many people spell it havok even though havoc is not only the proper spelling but an actual word

[terse idol]

There's orkz round here

https://tenor.com/view/orks-ork-waaaagh-slugga-boy-dawn-of-war-gif-15592891

[hollow ibex]

Which one is it? Havoc?

[loud belfry]

c

[hollow ibex]

Ic

[loud belfry]

they might be scared of the havok physics engine who knows

[unreal nova]

That just makes me think of Cyclops' brother.

[loud belfry]

deep cut reference such that I had to look up what it meant

[unreal nova]

Is a Marvel thing. X-Men. Scott Summer's brother. Alex Summers?

[loud belfry]

me who has literally never read a comic for more than 1 page in my life:

[unreal nova]

I really only know X-men and related stuff... And only the classics.

[trim badger]

DS Recon/Plasma seem to be the most common

Duelling Sword

(mk4 to be exact)

this thing

It's a mod called "Red weapons at home"

It turns gold weapons into red once they have all max perks, max blessings and 500 power

[terse idol]

Bistol yeahh

I can see that in havoc

[trim badger]

it's only visual for the hud

[terse idol]

Alotta grenaades

[iron silo]

yey

[crisp oak]

In legend its typically: one dude who knows what they are doing, some guy who has a high opinion of himself yelling about books, and one guy who cant kill a single stormvermin

[loud belfry]

it's only when they reach 500 power

[trim badger]

oh yeah sorry I edited the mod to make only happen when those other things are there as well

[loud belfry]

holy chad moment

actually it's when they're gold and have 500 power level

[trim badger]

nah I just took what the author posted in the posts section and applied it to mine

[crisp oak]

The most important darktide mod is the dodge counter

[hollow ibex]

Full auto

[loud belfry]

most important mod is the one that lets you have custom images as your loading screen images

[hollow ibex]

So you don't carpal tunnel

[oblique totem]

Advanced modding

[trim badger]

I have been clicking for more than 10 years now

spamming the shit out of click in different games

and I'm fine...

[orchid hemlock]

The most important darktide mod is by far is the vacuum capsule one 😔

[hollow ibex]

For now

[oblique totem]

Physically fine, maybe

[hollow ibex]

Age catches up to everyone

[trim badger]

No, I didn't develop a weird tick with the need to spam click from while to while even if not gaming (I did)

[loud belfry]

not everyone gets carpal tunnel, probably

[trim badger]

I don't want to think that every darktide player is +30

[oblique totem]

A good sign, I am sure.

[trim badger]

Instead of pain I developed addiction

whoops

[oblique totem]

Hey, I'm here and I'm not weird

[unreal nova]

I assume you either use knoife, TacAxe or DS.

[wanton dawn]

His highest is solo h40 ye

He doesnt play vigilante

as far as i know

I think someone plays it here but he is like, lvl 1800

not me

At this point it is more about commitment

[tame lodge]

If you make the semi deal 2100 weakspot damage then you can bring down dreg gunners at h40

And I'm fairly sure you can two tap Maulers body outside of havoc with the semi

[trim badger]

DS ofc

[tame lodge]

You better have your best aim on and only shoot ranged enemies

Then Vigilants are Havoc ready

It's usually one shot one kill

[hollow ibex]

Pus hardened says hello

[tame lodge]

PHS is based and doesn't discriminate

It shits on all ranged weapons

Making Lasguns rely on dots instead of direct hits

[hollow ibex]

Yeah that's the thing

It impacts all ranged weapons but those with dots fair much better

Flamer, some staves, infernus

[austere pine]

i love having to brain rupture a guy who's over there 3 times because he's green and not grey

[hollow ibex]

Not headhunters though

[austere pine]

peak modifier

[tame lodge]

Well at least PHS isn't guaranteed

So you can be smart about it

[hollow ibex]

Painful watching BB slowly kill stuff like bombers

[austere pine]

like not play it?

[tame lodge]

Like not play an Autogun on PHS

[austere pine]

only way of dealing with a gunner being a brain rupture because everyone else is dealing with other mobs isn't silly funny

[tame lodge]

You know

I could probably get a Flechette Lawby into havoc

[hollow ibex]

Why not double barrel instead?

[tame lodge]

Because funny spread shot

[austere pine]

only two bullet

[hollow ibex]

But DB has funny spread too

Flechette still only inflicts bleed on the first thing it hits right?

[tame lodge]

Don't think so
Flechette used to be paired with Man stopper so the funny bleed would have infinite cleave

Unless things changed at some point

[hollow ibex]

Maybe that was only a limitation on the dragonbreath shot

Hmm

Need to double check

[tame lodge]

Flechette procs on all targets hit

Tried to shoot at Groaners first to test but a crit spreadshot 1 hits them

At damnation*

[slow spade]

Brb nerfing dots again

[tame lodge]

💀

[slow spade]

170 damage per stack -> -170 damage per stack

[hollow ibex]

Sweet

[slow spade]

As Khorne would have wanted

[hollow ibex]

I feel justified taking flechette on double barrel

[tame lodge]

Hmmm
The carapace spam at havoc might kill my idea

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-disaster-john-malkovich-dr-adrian-mallory-space-force-bad-news-gif-17483727

[hollow ibex]

Take with a melee that has uncanny

[tame lodge]

Oh it's not the damage that I'm worried about

Carapace stops all cleave

Even man stoppers

[terse idol]

Carapace stops men

😭

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

[tall torrent]

2 shots minimum

[tall torrent]

do u play on 50% hud size

[tame lodge]

61%

The default was kinda ugly in my clips

Too bulky
Took lots of space

[tall torrent]

doesn't 61% have weird stamina bar look

like the spacing are not equal

[tame lodge]

Pus Hardened Skin

[hollow ibex]

Cucks a lot of weapons

[tame lodge]

Like these (100%)

61%

100%

61%

Or something entirely different?

[tall torrent]

yea

this is 61%

I can't even find the hud size line in user settings config file

[hearty panther]

you gotta set hud_size_line_size to 100% to see it first and then you can adjust it

[tall torrent]

where do I find it

[hearty panther]

is joke

you have fallen into my calculated trap

[tall torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-backflip-speed-backflip-ishowspeed-backflip-gif-12661145440690617681

[grand lintel]

is there any mods that change the weapon sights? so hard to aim for headshots with the heavy laspistol

[pseudo fiber]

the weapon customisation mod

warning can be unstable sometimes

[grand lintel]

nice

ty

[tame lodge]

💀

[orchid hemlock]

sometimes

[grand lintel]

ah, nevermind i thought it literally let you swap out different sights from other weapons but it seems to just be some

so for the heavy laspistol i can't just have an iron site that zooms in, either some goofy ones that take up your whole screen and zoom way too far or reflex sights like the default that don't zoom in much at all

this one doesn't even line up lol, mod also seems to break existing cosmetics like the skins and the stuff on chains that dangle off the grip that you unlock

[peak tree]

I did not properly anticipate the sheer number of grenades one can get with demolition team.

i almost feel like using my weapons is getting in the way of my dps with that volume.

[grand lintel]

since it also applies to any allies in coherency they do stock up quite fast

[peak tree]

yup.

thought Id give it a try as much as I'm not an enormous fan of the bolt pistol in the middle of combat but that extra radius does a lot

does the bleed effects from the bolt pistol also apply to grenade? or not a crossover given the "ranged"

[gritty mural]

you could try using it in the psykanarium where you switch to the pistol before the grenade explodes idk if it works or not

[unreal nova]

Nope. Not even a direct hit with the 'nade.

[peak tree]

Didnt imagine so.

[tropic notch]

I love speed

[tall torrent]

no
ranged is not explosion

[vernal trench]

I triggered a demonhost with my bolter bleed somehow

[dire olive]

There's another mod that adds a load of other parts to choose from, I forget the name but you can check main mod's nexus page and it'll show up under the mods that require it

[grand lintel]

I see, I’ll check them out tomorrow to see if it’s more like what I’m looking for. Ideally I’d just get an iron sight or something that doesn’t obscure what I’m trying to aim at while also zooming in a little

Basically like the autogun/lasgun sights, those are perfect

[dire olive]

I don't think most of the irons worked too well on laspistol besides recon lasgun ones, but there was also a decent scope that fades the edges when you aim to be less obstructive

[fiery raft]

ive heard mixed things about onslaught with vraks mkv

i personally feel like 3 talent points isnt worth but should i?

[hollow ibex]

It does kill crushers really quickly so the question is whether you want to invest three points to kill crushers or use kraks/melee

I prefer to just use melee and save ammo

[fiery raft]

that is a good point

in that case i have another question

superiority complex or bring it down?

which one is more worth?

i feel odd about not bringing bring it down

[hollow ibex]

Superiority complex usually just because it applies to more enemies

[fiery raft]

i see, okay

[hollow ibex]

I usually end up taking both tbh

Both are excellent

[fiery raft]

what about rending?

[tall torrent]

Usually depends on weapons

In havoc I think superiority complex outweighs bring it down for most weapons

[fiery raft]

i assume in the case of vraks superiority would work better?

most of the time atleast

[tall torrent]

In non-havoc they’re kind of a toss up as long as your weapons don’t need superiority complex for major breakpoints

[tall torrent]

What gun is that

[hollow ibex]

VIAG

[fiery raft]

the infantry autogun that runs like smg

[tall torrent]

U don’t “need” either

So get whichever is easier to grab

[fiery raft]

ight

[arctic rampart]

where is my melta gun?

[tame lodge]

6 years

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/bvndit-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-lol-gif-26075659

[ashen kiln]

Is the Helbore Lasgun any good? It seems too time consuming to be of much use

[raw needle]

it's not for everyone that's for sure

[ashen kiln]

Fair

How’s the power sword? Is it any good without charging it every damn hit?

[raw needle]

no

its very bad uncharged and extremely good charged

but that mechanic can get old quick

[ashen kiln]

Thought so. Damn

[raw needle]

if you want a fun power sword experience play relic blade zealot

[ashen kiln]

Think I’ll leave that to my Blaze Greastsword Psyker

[raw needle]

that's a different kind of beast tbh

like using duelling saber but once in a while you just wipe the whole screen with your special

[ashen kiln]

Im just trying to find a gun I like. They all have their place (most of them), but I want something without ammo isssues while not having to pump every point into getting to the ammo perks

Ammo talents*

[raw needle]

there's like 1 or 2 ammo perks tho and one of them is only relevant on recon

[tame lodge]

One of the best ranged weapons
Behind one of the worst draw times

[raw needle]

and it is conveniently placed with other good talents

[ashen kiln]

Yeah, but its so deep in the tree I can’t go anywhere else without having ammo issues

And I feel pigeonholed into lasguns

[tall torrent]

what does ur build look like

[raw needle]

never used lasguns since p13 dropped
never planning to ever again
except recons

[ashen kiln]

P13?

[raw needle]

patch 13

[ashen kiln]

What do you use then?

[raw needle]

mainly vraks 5 but sometimes double barrel with weapon spec

[ashen kiln]

Autogun?

[raw needle]

plasma if don't feel like playing the game

[raw needle]

yes

recons also are very fun but you're gonna be playing without a keystone

which isn't a big deal but still

melee vet with the non folding shovel

[ashen kiln]

I have to just try everything over again it seems

Or just swap to my psyker and never use ammo again

[raw needle]

gunpsyker is the most fun variant of psyker

part of it due to also sharing most of the tree with melee psyker but still

[ashen kiln]

I like melee psyker, but haven’t tried gun psyker yet. Maybe i’ll give it a try. Have a good build for it?

[raw needle]

off the top of my head go full on right side with assail, grab the attack speed talent and the one that gives you warp dmg on non warp attacks and vice versa, scriers and disrupt destiny

not on pc rn

[ashen kiln]

K

[fiery raft]

how's chain axe?

what's its main function ig

[raw needle]

the main function is to have low mobility.....

[tame lodge]

Single Target adjacent

[fiery raft]

hmm

damn

im trying to use it with doublebarrel with wep spec and it feels not great

[vernal trench]

@steep flower i thought u sleepin bro

[sinful swallow]

Worse but serviceable hordeclear, boss DMG, void shield, rev light staggers ragers in combo and mk4 lights stagger ragers on headshot

[hollow ibex]

chain weapons can either be ok chain weapons, or ok normal weapons

[fiery raft]

i kind of wanna switch up melees

[hollow ibex]

can't have both

[fiery raft]

its just not working for me ig

[past oriole]

uncanny strike rapier i understand it now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288899382669869157/1336777730364014662/tomascore-horse.gif

[steep flower]

i switched just 1 thing; not playing

[vernal trench]

U gon be carryin me in yo sleep

Jk imma sleep gn

[unreal nova]

So tonight. @latent parcel, @vernal trench and you for H40?

[vernal trench]

Na i aint on tmr

Im out all day n building stuff in minecraft at night

[trim badger]

I'm gonna use DS with my vet, it already has uncanny strike, should I add riposte or agile for the next blessing?

[vernal trench]

U should add riposte and then sacrifice it for more xp

[trim badger]

wdym sacrifice it 😭

[unreal nova]

Oh, oh well.

[vernal trench]

U keep askin ppl to carry u makin me feel bad man

[latent parcel]

its KARIEN the carry

[vernal trench]

Godgryn carries

The 1.8 million legend

He showed me the way today

He opened my eyes

[unreal nova]

Because I honestly don't think I do much other than be auras.

[vernal trench]

Solo h40!

[unreal nova]

e_e

[latent parcel]

we do havoc 40 tomorrow karien

chonky said he'll carry on his ogryn

[vernal trench]

Hell yeea

Whats with all the hate for my lake bro

[latent parcel]

cheese told me to emote it

mb

[vernal trench]

Stompty dompty aint never seen my level 4000 speedrun ogryn yet

[vernal trench]

@paper umbra did u do that?

[unreal nova]

He even said I could hang and you three hard carry.

[latent parcel]

we need papa willy

the trio

chonky can help on his ogryn

[unreal nova]

Mhm, that was the plan.

[latent parcel]

cant have u disconnecting at the end though

[vernal trench]

For sure

[latent parcel]

[vernal trench]

I cut her internet cable mb

So i can have an excuse to carry on my godgryn

[latent parcel]

so mean

[unreal nova]

Blame AWS.

[vernal trench]

Everyone needs to see my godgryn atleast once

[latent parcel]

hell yea

[vernal trench]

Then theyll stop complaining about ogryn being bad

[unreal nova]

Well, Stompt memed on his Oggy last week.

[latent parcel]

ya

i sucked

[vernal trench]

When

[latent parcel]

karien carried

[vernal trench]

U always suck tho

[latent parcel]

nah it was worse

[vernal trench]

Gotta narrow down the timeframe more

[latent parcel]

i was like you

that bad

[vernal trench]

Did u die more than 5 times like usual

[vernal trench]

Damn

[latent parcel]

i did the chonky special and died 10 times with 2k damage taken

[vernal trench]

Damn

Is that what they call it these days

[latent parcel]

not even the god tier karien chorus zealot could keep me alive

[vernal trench]

10 times aint that muhc

[latent parcel]

😔

[vernal trench]

That usually means ur havoc 40 ready

If its 15 times tho

[latent parcel]

2 20's = 1 havoc 40

[vernal trench]

Ask that guy

Whats his name

[latent parcel]

frenchie?

[vernal trench]

I cant remember

Na

The guy with a 20 we dragged through a 40

Was that the vetgryn that kept dying to reset his ammo

[latent parcel]

uhh theres been quiet a few of those

[vernal trench]

Must be another guy

True

If u done 4 havoc 10s

Ur ready for a havoc 40

[latent parcel]

[vernal trench]

Dude we should totally just pick up some guy whose cleared a havoc 5 sometime into 40

U know they love applying into those

They can just sit there and watch us play the whole game

[latent parcel]

hold up lemme find a clip of 2 havoc 5's me and a buddy picked up

for a 40

[vernal trench]

I gotta see thisp

[latent parcel]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PLz6rbH-mWP1tRqg8linuMslP2zCAl7qjT7FGE2PqWY/https/i.imgur.com/FfCAhwF.mp4

[vernal trench]

LMFAOOOO

Did u win

[latent parcel]

hell no

[vernal trench]

LMFAO

bro u picked them up knowing theyd die

LMFAO

[latent parcel]

hey man they were suppose to dodge

they didnt!

[vernal trench]

We gotta do that

[latent parcel]

also that wasnt me picking them up

so check mate

[vernal trench]

Thats actuallt so funny

Lmfao poor guys prolly played heresy and got dragged into a 40

[latent parcel]

hey they applied

not my fault

[vernal trench]

I gotta play with hobomancer

I wanna see hsi scriers gaze aciton

[latent parcel]

hes ultra hobo

[vernal trench]

Dude ur characters look so hobo

[latent parcel]

he hit 1.9mil the other day when i was on shieldgryn

[vernal trench]

U got no right to speak

[vernal trench]

Damn dude

Oh yea i saw

Thats crazy tho

Does he die mich

Much

[latent parcel]

nah not really

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-bieber-gun-to-head-killed-shot-murder-gif-15275179

[vernal trench]

Damn

He might be a better player than u bro

Hes soloing havoc 40s like its breakfast on his scriers gaze

[latent parcel]

hell yeah

[unreal nova]

What do you mean? I only play damnation cos heresy is dead at graveyard hours.

[vernal trench]

Heresy is peak gamemode

[unreal nova]

You get the worst there.

[vernal trench]

Na its peak of darktide

[unreal nova]

It is, it's also the hardest cos ppl too dook for damnation ends up there and ppl "too good" for malice go there.

[ashen kiln]

Does anyone actually run Maelstrom or is that as dead as damnation?

[elder fiber]

At least NA they do, just not as much as before

[hollow ibex]

AMs are pretty active

[honest pine]

How hard woudl you say the "don't get melee'd" penance is to get

[calm shard]

it's not about being meleed it's about taking health damage from melee

[honest pine]

Oh its only health damage??

[calm shard]

if you have gold toughness from VoC or full toughness when you get meleed you don't fail the penance

[honest pine]

Wish it would specify

[opaque cypress]

THE WALL was stopping you from facing 500 gunners

[versed merlin]

Important question: does melee weapons blessings still applies for helbores melee attacks?

[hollow ibex]

don't believe so

[frank ledge]

No

But no respite does

[versed merlin]

rip bromentum

[steep flower]

Thats why everytime i see gunners in such spots i tell my team to rush them before they see us; otherwise its gonna be like this

[steep flower]

You have not seen the face of my zealot & ogryn

[latent parcel]

classic low havoc players in havoc 40 lobbies

[steep flower]

In that clip yes but the gunner pin down cause to rushdown on such choke spots no

[austere pine]

unless the some damage goes through, as it sometimes does

[steep flower]

So many ppl lack initiative & understanding of animation timing of enemies & how much you can exploit that to your advantage

[wicked epoch]

is it me or did

the quality of randoms

really just fall off

like i cnt even get half decent team mates in normal damn

let alone a stable fps

540+ lessers killed and 50k boss damage for what?

us to lose because no one can kill a horde?

[pseudo fiber]

Not really noticed any considerable difference in the quality of randoms lately

[tropic halo]

I had an ogryn at level 27 joining an auric mael with me, I thought you could only join auric after reaching 30?

[wicked epoch]

lucky you, i used to get great randoms months ago when i played consistently

now that i seldom play, its just

so hard to work with em

[pseudo fiber]

If you queue with someone who's level 30 you.can join under 30

[wicked epoch]

they take medicaes, hog ammo, and just die 50 miles behind me

[normal bay]

Another 30 can drag you in I think

[tropic halo]

Thats kinda weird

Idk if that is intention but i think that should not be a thing

[pseudo fiber]

It's been a thing for at least a year and a half now so

[normal bay]

I go through good spells and bad spells with randoms. Go from a 7 game win streak to three losses in a row lol

Those "X missions completed in a row" penances are going to be struggle

[tropic halo]

big ass shoulder pads

[native robin]

Is there any hidden mechanic/skill that makes smoke nades a viable choice or do they exist solely to block your teams vision?

[pseudo fiber]

Shooters lose track of you and can't shoot in them and have to move out to continue fighting
Forces lots of enemies into melee range

[tropic halo]

Trappers also lose sight of you while inside smoke and they really have to be hugging you to detect

[stoic thorn]

YES

68/72 PLASMA

CLOSE ENOUGH

[pseudo fiber]

How many shots

[stoic thorn]

Idk I haven't maxed it out yet

[pseudo fiber]

Because you may have the ultra god roll

[stoic thorn]

My thermal resistance is at 44% rn

Able to get off 6 shots

My main charge rate 60 can get off 8

[fiery raft]

what's the heavy sword mark of choice?

unless it's just prefernec

[pseudo fiber]

7 or 9

Is what I see commonly

[stoic thorn]

Exe stance + plasma is cool

Can't hit breakpoints but I'm using it for vetovision

If the weapons in this game were lore accurate the power sword would be on almost 24/7 like the relic blade with the overheat function

Plasma gun would incinerate almost anything it shoots at

You'd die instantly the moment you overcharged and blow up

The rejects arms are remarkably strong for consistently tanking bolter dumps

[pseudo fiber]

Thunder hammers would be constantly on

[fiery raft]

i see

[pseudo fiber]

I think we just got broken weapons

[stoic thorn]

True

[fiery raft]

what's the function of the sp for heavysword?

[stoic thorn]

Plasma has no right being this shit

Tho

Low power can explain it probably

[pseudo fiber]

Smack that staggers stuff it's okay

[stoic thorn]

Which is why we see blue plasma marks instead of red hot holes in people and things we shoot