veteran-class

[hollow ibex]

"you thought i was just doing sweeps? SURPRISE MOTHER FUCKER"

[hearty panther]

otherwise it tends to catch me off guard randomly

usually after a push

[sleek garden]

my silly billy move with the relic blade is the power transfer blessing where when you time a block it improves cooling power

[hearty panther]

either way i love the uppercut sweep on the mkii too much

[hollow ibex]

that is very cool

but i couldn't stand the horde clear on it

[hearty panther]

push attack + two heavies

or two heavies + push attack + cycle

very easy stuff

[sleek garden]

when you activate/deactivate sword it counts as a block so i could proc the blessing on just activating the sword

[hollow ibex]

just feels too slow

i'm used to light spam with X

[hearty panther]

heavy + heavy + light and then heavy + light cycles back as well

[hollow ibex]

i also don't run twbs on my relic blade build and mk2 feels kinda bad without it

[dry cloak]

My guilty pleasure on relic ade i cranial plus hestsink

[hearty panther]

both together is pretty overkill but i getcha

heatsink is silly strong for uptime by itself

and it's always active once it's procced so quick swapping to a gun and then swapping back to the sword shaves a bunch of time off the bar with little investment overall

[hollow ibex]

heatsink + overload

[hearty panther]

it's nerfed while the sword is active though which ... kinda sucks? but that's fair since if it worked at full capacity then you'd basically have it on permanently

[dry cloak]

Overload is trash iirc

[hearty panther]

its not great

[tall torrent]

it's basically heatsink but better

[dry cloak]

I wont argue because i dont know shit

[hearty panther]

negative, cause i never reach lockout state

i just qq that shit before it tops

[tall torrent]

heatsink is at best 2s extra powered uptime and gets the same overheat duration as Overload but requires u to be killing things every second

[dry cloak]

I know that my relic blade worka really well and thats what counts

[tall torrent]

Overload's explosion can stagger ragers and maulers

quite funny

not best, but is funny

[hearty panther]

if overload also overrode the lockout state i would maybe consider it

but deliberately letting the shit overheat for a stagger effect and then still suffering a lockout does not appeal to me

[errant carbon]

Cranial mogs all other heat management blessings and gives a finesse bonus on top of it

[hearty panther]

heatsink only requires a crit or headshot kill which is very trivial

[tough tiger]

What if vet gets another ability that is just venting shriek but for the plasma

[hollow ibex]

overload is just for brain off gameplay, can be fun

[errant carbon]

Heatsink gets you better uptime only if you are letting it reach lockout and are somehow bad at stacking Cranial

[hearty panther]

its sorta the opposite

not really but sorta

cranial's just good at maximizing the full length of an active duration from 0-100, and yeah, weakspot bonus

[errant carbon]

I did the math on this once

[hearty panther]

heatsink keeps the heat down much faster once its off

so if you actually do manage your heat from lockout

[errant carbon]

Cranial's improvement to active duration beats heatsink's improvement to active duration plus its shortening of cooldown

[hearty panther]

you can maintain active time with larger windows to avoid lockout

[errant carbon]

Again unless you are somehow not stacking Cranial but able to maintain Heatsink

[hearty panther]

cranial has no benefit to shortening cooldown

it only reduces cost for active over time and per swing

[errant carbon]

Yes

I'm saying

[hearty panther]

vs heatsink only really affecting the winddown

[gilded wraith]

Does any other classes have something like Shocktrooper? An ability the limits benefits to a single weapon subset?

[hearty panther]

ogryn explosion talent, i guess?

[errant carbon]

Cranial extends your active time by more than heatsink extends active time AND speeds up cooldown time put together

Outside of the edge case I mentioned

[hearty panther]

idk when i ran mine i found them both pretty similar but in different directions

[errant carbon]

I also found out while doing that - Overload does technically shorten your lockout state more than any other blessing

[hearty panther]

cranial lost every time though if it started at zero

[errant carbon]

still dogshit

[hearty panther]

which is like, never really

[errant carbon]

And Energy Transfer is ridiculously bad, like it would be 3rd after Cranial and Heatsink even if it could have 100% uptime, which it can't, even if you're able to pull off perfect blocks with very obligingly timed attackers

[hearty panther]

5% heat dissipation bonus is a fucking joke lmao

make that shit 100% i dont even care

for me as a guy who cannot stop swapping weapons, Heatsink every time

[errant carbon]

Should also mention that Cranial reduces heat generated per second and per attack, which will give much more value if you're spamming lights or otherwise attacking faster (on top of stacking it faster)

[tall torrent]

heatsink is -0.833% heat per weakspot/crit kill
which is ~2s extra for powered mode
and not that much faster cooldown (only becomes -3.33% heat per weakspot/crit kill when it's overheated)

if u weakspot/crit kill an enemy every second, heatsink is ~2.5s shorter overheat (base 10s)

guess what else is also 7.5s overheat

Overload

[errant carbon]

https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/1326855938635862088

Posted a summary there of Cranial vs Heatsink

[half path]

Path when he vomits numbers at people

[hearty panther]

but i dont overload

that's the thing

if i dont let it top out it isnt gonna do anything for me

[half path]

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-black-ops-1-call-of-duty-black-ops-cod-black-ops-viktor-reznov-alex-mason-gif-1681414047243403443

[errant carbon]

Really, no one is saying Overload isn't terrible

[hearty panther]

once it gets right up there i just press q once or twice

[tall torrent]

then heatsink is also really low value overall
-0.833% heat per weakspot/crit kill is ass I'm sorry

[hearty panther]

suffering the lockout imo is a mistake

and i dont need the sword out or the active active to benefit from it so

its my fun time blessing for more sparkies

its fully effective when not active btw, unless ive tremendously misjudged something

er, when the sword isnt active i mean

[wanton dawn]

I though zealotry was about animal fur and beer belly man. What are those cursed readings ?

[hearty panther]

ill redline the sword, swap to pistol, shoot two dudes, swap back to strikedown light some idiot, and it'll be down to about half already since its heatsink + natural dissipation rate together

bear furs and maths arent mutually exclusive ok

[tall torrent]

heatsink is only 1/4 as effective when it's not in overheat state

[hearty panther]

or whatever animal is on that cosmetic

[tall torrent]

in overheat state, it's -3.33% per weakspot/crit kill

[hearty panther]

some sort of space bear

[tall torrent]

outside of overheat state, it's -0.83% per weakspot/crit kill

[hearty panther]

positive?

[tall torrent]

yea

[wanton dawn]

I would not know i dont play zealot. I just check their channel. Sometimes.

[slow sky]

fuck this class man

[hearty panther]

so it does

[wanton dawn]

Looks like a good dog event

[slow sky]

vet is so buttfuck busted lmao

[wanton dawn]

Macro psyker would like a word

[slow sky]

but macro psyker is bannable, this is just the game working as intended

[bleak cradle]

Macro psyker hopefully go bye bye soon

[slow sky]

it will

[wanton dawn]

Just because it will go away doesnt mean it is bannable wat

[bleak cradle]

I still have yet to see proof it is bannable

[tame lodge]

Not 200 HP and Tg
Unplayable

[wanton dawn]

I would have been ban so many time for thunderous frags, limb/bm bayo, cheese every shot...

[slow sky]

no like the macro that is used for the spam is consider a complex macro by FS and thus against TOS

[half path]

cole when stacking book and 3 vocs or a cooldown stim and atleast 1 book or two other vocs

And acting like over toughness stacking isn’t the real issue in this picture

[wanton dawn]

Took them how long to stop naked skins and vaccum capsule ?

Way more noticiable

Axe macro did not create ban either

[slow sky]

idk man a machine gun is just as noticable

wrong reply

kez get out of my chat

youre messing me up

[half path]

He thinks vacuum capsules are gone :3

[half path]

I’m reporting you for being horrible

[wanton dawn]

Nope. I just select my mates better

[half path]

ok.

[quartz nymph]

I just had a match where there was 4 of us and a bot the whole time

5 total. I didn't know that could happen

[half path]

Bug that can happen

It can happen more than once in the same game I’m sure

[quartz nymph]

Wild. Pretty cool having the emotional support bot

[proud bluff]

Whats a good content creator to watch? I know Tanner and Mister E are no goes

[bleak cradle]

Until I see proof past this pic. I will always call out people saying any macro is bannable

[tame void]

There's a mod for it, that's what I use

[wanton dawn]

Vet chan is not a good place for darktide yt recommendation

[proud bluff]

Lol fair enough.

[wanton dawn]

I think crab was the only one that made an appareance without being dissed. Was not even his channel, it was a wh3 content ytber

[slow sky]

what kind of content are you trying to find

[half path]

There are a good few content creators but all of their channel names escape me rn

like that guy with the really good foundation videos

[proud bluff]

Guides mostly. Informational stuff. I know games like this can have people just spouting misinformation so I thought to ask for some from people who know more than me

[wanton dawn]

We are missing a vetted build section. Then again... it is hard to not have a build teared to shred here

[dry cloak]

Ogryn has a genuine guide. vet and psyker have very good data repositories

[slow sky]

telopots's guide videos are great because they arent biased, theyre strictly informational, he only has a few of those but theyre jam packed with info (that is actually true as well, rare find), most of his other stuff is just run vods
reginald does basically a bit of everything, guides, builds, run vods, and has a nerd spreadsheet for lots of different situational tests
some other notable people who mostly just do recordings of games/challenge runs that are worth checking out are j_sat, emorist, combine00, and vamp

[tall torrent]

What kind of guides

[sly orchid]

Telepots called the double barrel bad🤫

[wanton dawn]

He's right

[terse idol]

Weird

[dry cloak]

He's wrong

[half path]

never really used any guide im just a vibe based gamer, i see thing i like i use it

its worked so far seeing as ive done every piece of hard content and penance they have added to the game

[wild vortex]

Reginald called slab shield shit

[half path]

maybe id become powerful if i actually listened to guides

[half path]

realest take, i love knocking everything over but killing nothing

[terse idol]

Boo

The whole point is crowd control

[wanton dawn]

I dont watch yt guide but it was this iteration of the shield ?

[terse idol]

Wdym!

[wild vortex]

Actual skill issue

[dry cloak]

Pickaxe better

[terse idol]

Taunt

Shield

Taunted gunners

[tall torrent]

reginald is 40~50 hours away from being very knowledgeable about the game

[slow sky]

and he recommends it in his havoc 40 meta build lmao

[half path]

my ogryn may be level 66

[tall torrent]

he still hasn't responded to my dm

[wanton dawn]

Oh well. I did say this is not a good place to get ytber recommendation

[half path]

i only play vet

[wild vortex]

Why the bipolar take then

[half path]

the other classes were purely made to do penances

[slow sky]

how long ago did he say it was shit

like when are you pullin that from

(i genuinely dont know lmao)

[wild vortex]

Umm Jan 2023 or something? First quarter for sure

[wanton dawn]

ROFL

[wild vortex]

It was posted in #ogryn-class the other day

[slow sky]

2023 lmao

[atomic void]

no tuber is perfect but everything ive seen from reginald helped me big time

[wanton dawn]

imagine not taking down a 2023 weapon take on youtube

When was the shield buffed again ?

[slow sky]

patch 13 or 14

i can check

[half path]

i mean its more on you to assume a take on a weapon from 2 years ago is still relevant

[slow sky]

latter half of 2023

[wanton dawn]

[wild vortex]

Ere you go

[slow sky]

yeah shield was donkey shit back then

[bleak cradle]

A lot. A lot changed

[slow sky]

it was absolutely horrible

[wild vortex]

I see, then I am silly

[wanton dawn]

Slab shield was one of the shittiest weapon is what changed

[errant carbon]

How the turns tabled

[slow sky]

the importance of context

[terse idol]

Oh come on

2023

[wanton dawn]

Am all for criticizing ytber but srsly

[slow sky]

@half path what do you even run on your shield

[half path]

like no one would see someone calling pre buffed recon bad and still today being like i cant believe he hates recon

[half path]

I dont use it lol

my ogryn has 1 melee weapon

and its a pickaxe

lol

[wild vortex]

Did I lose internet points by not doubling down on an obviously incorrect opinion

[slow sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1328835856701849630/1733634972526851.gif

[slow sky]

yes

[wild vortex]

Shame

[wanton dawn]

Just dont post a video about it

[half path]

i literally dont play other classes cole you know this

[slow sky]

anyway now that shield slander is out of the way
double barrel on vet fucks
combine has consistently outdamaged me in both ranged and total damage when im on purgatus psyker which is fucking insane
in havoc 40

[errant carbon]

March 2023, when Autopistol was meta for every non-Ogryn (including Psyker, who didn't even have talent support for using guns)

[dry cloak]

A yes pinning fire

[wanton dawn]

I dont play, see or read about db shotgun. I would not know

[dry cloak]

Old pinning fire

[slow sky]

~~then why are you calling it bad ~~

[bleak cradle]

Inferno takes some time to ramp up dmg/kill. I assume manstopper + (I can’t remember the other one)?

[terse idol]

WS with shotgun goes hard

[slow sky]

manstopper+fletchette+WS

[wanton dawn]

Cuz my experience with shotgun is that all of them work on hopes and dream

While faltering in practice. See lawbringer buff

[wild vortex]

How do you deal with enemies at range

[terse idol]

Reposition

[narrow frost]

Slide

[wanton dawn]

I try weapon after seeing ppl do actual stuff with them

[wild vortex]

I tried DB on WS Vet and it just didn't feel like it killed enough, idk what I'm doing wrong

[slow sky]

like this

[terse idol]

Oh

That's pretty good range

[wild vortex]

What if I'm not a knife user

[slow sky]

i also use this build with shovel

[tall torrent]

axe + DB works

[slow sky]

just less speed

[half path]

MOM IM IN THIS VIDEO

[tall torrent]

it's very versatile

[slow sky]

but youre in this one more-er

[wild vortex]

I will try it again tomorrow

Same old WS tree right

[half path]

this was when i realised the db is actually a sniper

[slow sky]

i can send what i use on mine, which was made prehavoc
then i can send what combine uses in havoc

[errant carbon]

Grudge Raker moment

[slow sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9de0e1d9-5395-4e5c-88b8-6c98f4cf3564/destiny-2-auto-loading-holster

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dc07847-9d27-4b78-a648-e3e976170e3b/havoc-db-swap

[wild vortex]

Thanks!

[wanton dawn]

I'll stick to my bolter. Am slowly bringing it to pubs h40

It is a dps downgrade though

[slow sky]

i always look at combines builds and go "huh why run that" at a few things but it doesnt matter cuz he just runs circles around me with it anyway

[wanton dawn]

Funny build

I see the point

[tough tiger]

that is certainly an unorthodox build for h40

[half path]

misinfo in this build!!!!

you dont use the mk iii shovel

you hate that one!!!!

[slow sky]

and yet

[tall torrent]

I mean, the shovel + DB build makes a lot of sense to me tbh

[tough tiger]

YEEZUS

[tall torrent]

neither are finesse weapons so precision strikes is not worth 2 points

tinkerer is good

[wanton dawn]

You need the timer too

[tall torrent]

yea it's like genuinely fine

[slow sky]

boss damage since both weapons kinda lack it

for kraks

[tough tiger]

ah so thats why

[tall torrent]

yea I get that

[slow sky]

and manstop fletch fills shredder role

[tall torrent]

build looks fine, nothing wrong with it

[slow sky]

2 nodes in wep specialist i never give a second glance tho

[tall torrent]

on ur toes is VERY GOOD

[wanton dawn]

🤷

[tall torrent]

invigorated is alright

[wanton dawn]

The guys has an idea

[hearty panther]

watching combine try to make manstoppet accatran shotgun work was very funny

[slow sky]

it was so painful

[hearty panther]

and total shit lmao

[half path]

vet tree has too much good stuff on it they make you choose like one of your kids getting shot with those last points

[wanton dawn]

This is NOT a beginner build though

[tall torrent]

I put DB's specialist and low mass elite clear at like 8/10

[slow sky]

absolutely not no

yknow what

fuck it

we're running combines

[dry cloak]

Manstopper both barrels db

[slow sky]

gaming time

[slow sky]

whats the point of both barrels

[tall torrent]

but really if I could go into specifics in radar chart, it'd be 10/10 for ragers basically

it's only 8/10 cuz it doesn't snipe gunners

[dry cloak]

Faster reload and feeling like playing doom

[slow sky]

but then you have almost no crit for manstop
so then whats the point of manstop there

[wanton dawn]

Guess ill try it later. If i remember. I am not playing knife or shovel though

[dry cloak]

Weapon spec

[slow sky]

but then whats the point of both barrels if youre already reloading 1 shot

[dry cloak]

Im have ws withput upgrades

[slow sky]

[slow sky]

why anti-shovel

[dry cloak]

I feel ita redundant

[wanton dawn]

Cuz i am not trying a guy own build with own style refinement without adjusting to my playstyle and checking the quirks

[slow sky]

1 shell for 1 kill kinda huge tho
and it frees up that blessing slot for another crit related synergy blessing

that talent has the most value for db out of every weapon in the game

[narrow frost]

They did not play BH axe crossbow 😔

[wild vortex]

Also for Zarona

Is what I use rn

[slow sky]

db has more value even than zarona

[wild vortex]

Wonder if they fixed Crucian on Zarona with WS

[narrow frost]

DB more so, it fills 50% ammo

[slow sky]

^

[wild vortex]

True i guess

[wanton dawn]

Not using the reload ws on db feels like a mistake yeah

[dry cloak]

I did

[narrow frost]

It's not for a lot of builds

[dry cloak]

But pistols better

[wanton dawn]

Eerr

[narrow frost]

I don't run it with shredder auto or laz rifle

[quartz nymph]

Knife+DB is so fun to play with WS and the reload talent

[wanton dawn]

Pistol got shafted by havoc

Is what i heard from az. Who like pistol more than me

[tall torrent]

yes

[tall torrent]

revolver got taken out back and shot for havoc

no 1 taps (without crit headshot)
on a 5r capacity gun

[wanton dawn]

Guess we are back to prebuff state

Am not sad

[tall torrent]

it's still the best gun in base game

balancing everything for havoc is dumb
but I wish more weapons are made better for havoc

[wanton dawn]

Guess i am not that much of a metastan then

My bolter/axe build would make ppl squint

[slow sky]

everything isnt balanced with havoc in mind

and i highly highly highly doubt it will be in the future too

[dry cloak]

Game is balanced around normal damnation

Not havoc

[slow sky]

damn/auric damn
since they end up being the same stats that the weapons actually interact wtih

[austere fog]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dry cloak]

And remember were rather vocal minority here

[narrow frost]

Balanced around malice

[wanton dawn]

Am not that deranged yet

I dont play my taxes

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[dry cloak]

I heard that before

[wanton dawn]

Tac axe are a weird child between a knife and a combat axe

But it kinda hit like a wet noddle

[tame void]

Don't play your taxes kid

[austere fog]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[magic trout]

Which ranged weapons are the best for havoc?

[wanton dawn]

Plasma, bolter, recon and boltpistol are the meta me think ?

Bolter being pushed by zealot more than vet arguably

[magic trout]

Ive been using recon and bolter

[magic trout]

For boss damage it was already very good and also headhunting

[wanton dawn]

From my point of view, shooting boss in havoc is a mistake

BoN being an exception if you get a good angle in a bad time but still

[magic trout]

For the shield ranged refuction i guess

[wanton dawn]

Cuz it is a waste of ammo

Bosses are bullet sponge and they are not a priority target

[keen sage]

Is chain sword good?

[wanton dawn]

Not for top content. Good enough otherwise

[keen sage]

Ok what about bolt pistol

[magic trout]

Better run i gues but not defeating a boss is a comodity
Mostly when a captain appear with a nurgle beast

[wanton dawn]

It is good. Not the most pleasant gunplay imo but that is another story

[keen sage]

Lit cuz I love it

[magic trout]

Horde clearer

[keen sage]

Noted

[wanton dawn]

It is more about saving ammo for specialist and killing it with melee

BoN is again, the only wildcard

[magic trout]

Still a comodity
There is not always a zealot with cleansing aura

[magic trout]

BoN?

[wanton dawn]

Beast of nurgle

[keen sage]

Is the rev ability on the chain sword good?

[wanton dawn]

no

[keen sage]

Oof lol

[wanton dawn]

Used to be worse. still meh

[keen sage]

I’m probably still gonna use it

[magic trout]

Yes

[keen sage]

Oh clashing beliefs

[keen sage]

What’s your thoughts on it

[wanton dawn]

Rev is a slow damaging move which used to lock you in place in a game about overwhelming player with units

Also do not stun

[keen sage]

What about the rev perk that makes you run faster when you rev up

[sly orchid]

Bloodthirsty oneshots crushers

[wanton dawn]

Utility blessing are usually not played on top diff. For lower everything is fine.

[sly orchid]

Pretty good but evis is overshadowed by relic blade

@severe gale evis talk

[wanton dawn]

Sir this is vet chan

[keen sage]

Elvis?

What’s is ELVIS

[rigid rover]

Yo is kantrael lasgun good for veteran>?

[keen sage]

I LIKE ROLE PLAYING COMMISSAR NOT ELVIS

[wanton dawn]

Serviciable, not top meta

[keen sage]

Is that the normal one?

[magic trout]

Ive been using the chainsword since the release of the game and for ME is good.
Nice speed attack, damage, shredder is good also stagger

[rigid rover]

What is the top meta if i may ask?

[keen sage]

Ight ight

[keen sage]

What’s your thoughts on the speed up on rev perk?

[wanton dawn]

Plasma, bolter, boltpistol, recon, then probably revolver, infantry autogun and maybe a few others

[keen sage]

Rip helbore las gun

[rigid rover]

ohh so plasma is top

[magic trout]

For auric/damnation/maelstrom
Very good 🔥
Good ammo, good damage, ammo economy, good RoF

[rigid rover]

fr?

[keen sage]

Yes it’s good but chance to self terminate if you shoot to many charged shots

[magic trout]

Yes

[wanton dawn]

Note that i base my view for havoc 40, so i am VERY skewed

[magic trout]

Maybe lacks boss damage

[wanton dawn]

Also don't use revolver on havoc 40

Well, do whatever

I dont care

[rigid rover]

wait is the rapier top meta for vet

[magic trout]

But can kill a reaper in 1-2 shots
For havoc i havent tested yet

[keen sage]

I use chain sword :>

[wanton dawn]

It is. I just don't like it

[keen sage]

I am commissar

[rigid rover]

It doesn't look cool 😦

[magic trout]

That sht is OP for every class

[wanton dawn]

Rapier, knife, powersword and combat axe is the melee meta

[keen sage]

The chain sword or rapier

[magic trout]

Useless

[wanton dawn]

Combat axe is the least common option

[rigid rover]

dang knife is meta?

[wanton dawn]

Yup

[keen sage]

Rip but it’s fun😭

[magic trout]

Dueling sword - meta
Chainsword - good

[keen sage]

I go vroom vroom zzzert

[rigid rover]

dueling sowrd js doesnt give me aura vibe

[keen sage]

[wanton dawn]

Duelling sword might get nerfed but well

[keen sage]

Chain sword is massive aura +

[wanton dawn]

Plasma has not been nerfed in a while either

[magic trout]

Is lame...

[keen sage]

Do not be Beta Meta slave be Chad Chain Sword user

[rigid rover]

ok I will try chain sword

like titus 😍

tightus

[dry cloak]

Have some chest hair and dont use dueling sword

[keen sage]

Yes brother your in the path of redemption

[keen sage]

I revoke my past statement

[keen sage]

Real Chad right here

Trust Chain Sword and Bolt Pistol Peak

[rigid rover]

bro so I made dueling sword transcendant fo no reason 😢

[dry cloak]

I use what ever that is not dueling sword

[keen sage]

https://tenor.com/view/commissar-warhammer40k-imperium-of-man-imperial-guard-40k-gif-15890262

[keen sage]

Based

[dry cloak]

Keep it.

[keen sage]

Heresy?

You must sacrifice it

[dry cloak]

If he upgraded it he should keep it. No point in wasting mats

[rigid rover]

sacrifice for the chainsword gods?

[dry cloak]

I kept my ds after leveling it to mastery 20

[keen sage]

He’s right as much as you should I’d really recommend 3 to 4 daily prayers to the Emperor shall be a worthy penance

[dry cloak]

Buts it on psyker

[rigid rover]

ok

[tall torrent]

Melee (havoc)
Combat axe III
Combat blade VI
Duelling sword IV
Power Sword VI

Ranged (havoc)
Recon lasgun VIc / XII
Plasma gun
Bolt pistol
Spearhead boltgun

Melee (auric & below)
Combat axe III
Combat blade VI
Duelling sword IV
Power Sword VI
Heavy sword IX

Ranged (auric & below)
Quickdraw stub revolver IIa
Recon lasgun VIc / XII / XIV
Infantry autogun V
Plasma gun
Spearhead boltgun

[rigid rover]

let me save this to my notes gng

ty

wait havoc is the hardest right

[tall torrent]

ya

[rigid rover]

ty original gangster

[keen sage]

😭

[rigid rover]

Wait, are these in order is it just weapons to use in these modes?

[tall torrent]

I'd say these are generally the best and whatever feels like the best to you is largely preference

[dry cloak]

People say hs9 is best yet i still use hs6

[slow sky]

dude why do i even bother

[magic trout]

What are the differences between bolt pistol and bolter? 🤔

[dry cloak]

Size

and blessings

[quartz nymph]

Ones more of a rifle/artillery barrage and the other is pistol

[light ridge]

Bolt Pistol faster reload, faster draw time, good sniper, good ammo economy
Bolt gun bigger punch, mag dump ability, ok sniper

[supple stag]

Plasma is so fun guys

[rigid rover]

bro I didn't know ds oneshots almmost every enemy with headshot

[wanton dawn]

Bolter is a better main weapon. Boltpistol is a better side weapon

[wanton dawn]

That was my feelings back when assail was busted at talent tree launch

To be fair, shotgunner conga line is a plasma wet dream

[austere pine]

id say its in order

[slow sky]

those are the meta, not a hard requirement
in havoc on vet i use the recon XII for my gun, but i use the mk1 shovel with an odd roll because it fits into the build better for havoc

[austere pine]

wait decimator mk1 shovel kinda fucks

[slow sky]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-dance-dance-till-die-woppi-suppi-gif-18186380735430151494

it does

[austere pine]

does it get interrupted if you bash?

[slow sky]

no

that was old decimator from a really long time ago

now its a buff that lasts 2s and drops off from a miss

[calm shard]

which shovels were not trash again

[pseudo fiber]

Mk1

Mk7?

[austere pine]

the blue and wide folding one

and then the unfolding one it seems

[rigid rover]

is the shovel good for like defense?

[slow sky]

its a really good generalist
lights are all quick strikedowns for single target
heavies are wide sweeps with good impact and cleave
special attack is a forced stagger that can stop mutants mid charge, crushers/maulers mid overhead, and ragers mid combo
and the push attack hits like a truck
also has a high amount of stamina base too just cuz

[vernal trench]

How does it do damage wise against armored stuff?

[slow sky]

pretty good up until carapace

but it has access to uncanny strike

[vernal trench]

Damn

So its a worse knife against crushers and maulers

[slow sky]

theres no uncanny strike here because my armor damage is from recon+onslaught+infernus

[austere pine]

stop mutants mid charge 👀

[vernal trench]

Damn

Maybe i should try it out

[vernal trench]

Goddamn

Weakspot hit stops them just like rapier

[austere pine]

i dont have that experience with dsword because i just heavy their head and theyre gone

[light ridge]

Even with Uncanny the Crusher dies of boredom before the mk1 kills it

[visual remnant]

U will pay 4 ur sinz 1 day Cole ,,

[slow sky]

its not the best solution to carapace but it is a solution

the shovel can deal with everything, but excels at nothing

but man
it is really funny to bonk them to death

[vernal trench]

Lmfao

[visual remnant]

Wtf u killed a reaper in three hirs

Hits

Basically one and ⅔rds of a hit

[slow sky]

skullcrusher

[visual remnant]

Downvote

[light ridge]

I prefer the foldable shovels because they add a decent answer to carapace

[slow sky]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-dance-dance-till-die-woppi-suppi-gif-18186380735430151494

[visual remnant]

Downvotes u and blows a raspberry

Shovel enjoyin FREAK

Dig ur grave w that thinge

Use a psword like a civilized persone ,,

[slow sky]

i prefer the mk1s moveset more overall
special stab and PA overhead my beloved

[wicked cedar]

nefarious no-good freak

[visual remnant]

Furry Freak Priest

8822995... Today at 02:33

[light ridge]

Move set is the best of the 3
The folded overhead one is best for armor
The other one copies the mk1 move set but gets a terrible folded heave attack

[austere pine]

and do fuckall to unyielding lol

[light ridge]

I can't seem to remember having real issues vs unyielding?

[slow sky]

the fold attack actually deals the least amount of damage to unyielding

compared to every other armor type

[light ridge]

But I did switch back to chainsaw because it's more reliable against everything

[visual remnant]

Cole what do u use on ur shovel

[austere pine]

its like trying to piss a hole into metal

not happening

[slow sky]

uncanny decimator for general use
on a build where my gun can effectively deal with armor, skullcrusher decimator

[visual remnant]

Sometimez i wish i could throw stonez at u thru my phone

Thankz

[slow sky]

why are you so evil

[visual remnant]

I not epil ,, i am all good ,,

Truste , me

[uncut pebble]

Thinking about reinstalling starbound just so I can bbq some florans...

[austere pine]

what does 31b/31e mean @visual remnant

[coarse wolf]

aight
coming from someone who does not play vet and has no idea what im doing
on a scale of 1 to "oh god oh fuck" how shit is this

[calm shard]

why did you take born leader

[austere pine]

remove grenade tinkerer and born leader

[calm shard]

grenade tinkerer is good

[austere pine]

and the perk going into tinkerer

[calm shard]

comically large shredders

[austere pine]

okay how about

hear me out

more crits?

toughness and stamina regen on mark?

[calm shard]

okay but 14 meter radius shredder grenades

if they wanted that they could get rid of 2 worse talents

[uncut pebble]

What are you running with this, first off?

[calm shard]

like born leader and field improvisation

[coarse wolf]

probably shovel + recon las

[coarse wolf]

ok born leader was a misclick i will admit

[uncut pebble]

Try either of these, you can drop field improv if you wish.

One has survivalist pathing, one doesn't, that's the only main difference.

[rustic beacon]

The only thing I find questionable is you took born leader and FTE. The talents in that row are pretty mid and usually only taken to get the nodes after them

[uncut pebble]

I personally run the survivalist one.

My recon is also flak unarmored infernus headhunter, shovel is flak maniac uncanny skullcrusher.

Only take headhunter on vet because there's no source of guaranteed crits like there is on psyker.

Between reciprocity and headhunter you get 65% at max stacks of both.

Plus your natural 5%.

[austere pine]

flak crit chance infernus headhunter 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[uncut pebble]

Crit chance is also a viable option but I prefer the flat 25% unarmored just for shooter racism.

[austere pine]

death to all stalkers

shooters are wimps i dont care bout those

[calm shard]

i'm guessing the reason you might want to take thrust on the blue folding shovel is because it can one shot certain enemies with the special+uncanny strike?

[uncut pebble]

Yes.

[austere pine]

but if i see stalkers, theyre getting gunned down without mercy

FUCK stalkers

[calm shard]

which ones

[uncut pebble]

You can pretty comfortably hit crusher oneshot bp.

Need a handful of damage talents to pull it off.

[calm shard]

well maybe not this one because I don't have this thing mastered yet

[uncut pebble]

Precision strikes/bring it down/desperado + thrust.

Methinks with cara damage as well you meet a damnation crusher 1tap?

Idk, I don't play much with the folding ones, mk1 supremacy.

Kinda just pulling information out of my ass with that tbh, but you get the idea, crusher 1tap bp is obtainable.

[austere pine]

yes

[calm shard]

how is that damage legal

from a shovel

[normal bay]

I think I have underestimated the shovel

[uncut pebble]

Everyone does.

@supple laurel thought skullcrusher was a buff to himself and not a debuff to the enemy for a bit and shit all over shovels until I told him to re read the blessing.

"I don't understand how this thing is good against armor."
"Have you tried proccing skullcrusher?"
"It doesn't even build!"
(this is where my shit eating grin appeared)

[pseudo fiber]

Sharp

[north nimbus]

stupid ready killshot done 😄 now i finaly can stop going slow like crab

[pseudo fiber]

I hope you were meleeing enemies

[north nimbus]

i would say it was 60% shooting 40% melee

[wanton dawn]

This as nothing to do with vet or darktide but i searched electrostatics on wikipedia and the top image gave me a good laugh

[lean light]

Shovel is the best not because hur hur krieg but because it feels nice to use

The timing and the swing BONK swing BONK

[mental halo]

what is the commissar build?

[dry cloak]

Voc with chainsword and bolt pistol

[unreal nova]

Need buff on aiming at teammates with a bolt pistol.

[dry cloak]

Play BH slatz and train on elfs

[mental halo]

mostly i play dow back then

[keen sage]

My build

[keen sage]

Yes very good your learning

[north nimbus]

sure but kireg with shovel is iconic by now 😄

[dry cloak]

Kriegers are steel legions ripoff

[north nimbus]

now now play nice Krieg is different theme and vibe then Steel Legion

both are good and both are great one is pure artilery and infantry other one is full mechanized arm force

btw english is not my first language so if i butcher something i am sorry

[dry cloak]

Do you know how krieg started?

[north nimbus]

and from all imperial guard Krieg and Steel Legion are like most known and best looking one

[stoic thorn]

Krieg literally started as a steel legion alternative paint scheme

[stoic thorn]

Cadians:

Catachan:

[north nimbus]

ok like all chapters of marine probably

[stoic thorn]

Talking shit about CADIA infront of John cadia

[stoic thorn]

THEY ARENT SPACE MARINES

[mental halo]

i have the krieg outfit and the steel legion mask

[north nimbus]

my veteran is from cadia sinc there is no option to pick armageddon

[stoic thorn]

Because cadia is the more popular option

[north nimbus]

not sure if krieg would ever be sent to penal legion

[stoic thorn]

They've been the posterboys of the Imperial Guard for a long ass time

Seriously they were until now

[north nimbus]

i mean mad respect they stand to the last and planet broke before they did

[stoic thorn]

Rn it's stinky krieg as the posterboys

[mental halo]

i wish i have a mask that makes your voice look demonic

[stoic thorn]

If you can see voices you're possessed

Check yourself for tzeentch fuckery

[mental halo]

i like khorne ._.

[wanton dawn]

Nothing a boltgun cant fix

[mental halo]

you mean nailgun?

[wanton dawn]

Nono, boltgun

[mental halo]

i love that game

[lean light]

Quake

[wanton dawn]

I call this "cadian lobotomy"

[lean light]

Difficulty tweak

[mental halo]

i got 1 and 2

[north nimbus]

ist there good items in premium shop that can make you character look like armageddon steel legion

i know there is krieg one

[stoic thorn]

They had steel legion

Few rotations back

[vernal trench]

"Few"

[mental halo]

anyone use a recon lasgun?

[lean light]

No

Suffer

[mental halo]

oh hey i have that mask

[lean light]

We all have that mask it came free with your paid dlc

It's a shame they absolutely fucked up the krieg cosmetics.

Completely irreparable fucking up

[vernal trench]

Might be a different one

This mask only comes from the steel legion set i think

Theres a couple that look almost identical

[grand perch]

Dog face gas mask

[mental halo]

i have the krieg outfit but not the mask

[grand perch]

[mental halo]

the black version

[lean light]

The mask is so stuoid

We were so close.

[mental halo]

looks cute

[vernal trench]

Lmao

[lean light]

"Can I try your lasgun" vs "I just killed 50 daemons by looking at them"

[vernal trench]

Why does the krieg helmet look like that

[mental halo]

realism?

[tame lodge]

Bro had to lock in

[pseudo fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153279327513886770/1288458805939671153/2178f41f369757c454bf79f3c0e30322.jpg?ex=67a1f6c5&is=67a0a545&hm=109a1904bc2b46da414788f26712fed2ba3ade27898866495fd04ee86f2a5f94&

[pseudo fiber]

I'm assuming the modeller was given some piss poor reference image

The steel legion, enforcers, elysian, savlar and now Snowhound stuff looks art accurate the krieg helmet just randomly doesn't.

The zealot helmet matches the skull mask correctly too

[vernal trench]

That mask looks horrendous

Its like dude has ultra asthma

[pseudo fiber]

Seems close to me

[vernal trench]

Damn is that what theyre supposed to look like

[pseudo fiber]

Well there's lots of art

[vernal trench]

The full gas helmet looks cooler

[grand perch]

Imagine if they actually worked

No more pox gas

[pseudo fiber]

It's a plague of the spirit so

[uncut pebble]

Yeah, that's what I spoke about before when we talked about the steel legion mask.

Normal steel legion gas masks dont have the goggle part. (it makes it look goofy and completely ineffective)

[half path]

WRONG LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER NOISE

the steel legion who wear gas masks without goggles are part of mechanised infantry and do so to prevent goggle fogging while using said mechanised equipment

[uncut pebble]

That... still makes them ineffective...

[sly orchid]

Someone tell frog that gas masks have a vacuum

[uncut pebble]

Ok, do you understand how poison gas works?

You have your eyeballs exposed.

[sly orchid]

Dont need em

[uncut pebble]

You are going to fucking die to gas if your eyeballs are exposed.

[half path]

they wear gas masks on armaggedon because the air isnt safe to breath

[uncut pebble]

If it isn't safe to breathe, it isn't safe to have on your eyeballs, either.

[sly orchid]

You arent going to die cause your eyeballs are exposed to carbon monoxide

[uncut pebble]

Ok, maybe carbon monoxide won't kill you.

But actual things you'd bother using a gas mask will.

[half path]

sure it might irritate them, but they have a job to do id also like to remind you alot mechanised infantry are in things like tanks and sentinels

like that is a large part of their job

[uncut pebble]

It would be more accurate to say that steel legion use respirators, at this point.

Because that shit is not a gas mask, you will die if you walk into gas wearing that.

[half path]

if you ever had to wear glasses during covid you will understand who impracticle goggles would be

[light ridge]

You're not going to die because your eyes are exposed, you're just going to go blind
Blind guardsmen can still be turned in the right direction to shoot at the enemy, and are cheaper than goggles

[half path]

imagine that but in an enclosed tank with 6 other guys

when you are expected to shoot something

[vernal trench]

Lmao eye protextion

[sly orchid]

BLEGH

[uncut pebble]

Trust me, I know. I wear glasses. In fact, I've gotta be at the ophthalmologist (? eye doctor) in ~ an hour.

I completely understand the usecase for being inside a tank and not wanting your lenses to fog up.

In that regard, the mask is effective.

However, if you have to get out of your tank, and there are actual airborne hazards like, say stinky-poopy-nurgle-gas, it's going to kill you.

Which is my point.

Granted, a proper mask isnt going to be 100% effective, either, considering warp fuckery, but still. You'll die faster wearing one of those steel legion masks.

[half path]

most nurgle plagues burn through filters, your clothes, your skin, your bones

pretty fucking fast

[unreal nova]

This is just me when certain vent purge or b/w mode. (Final wound.)

[uncut pebble]

Hence why I said it wasn't going to be 100% effective.

[half path]

you could have the nurgle fucker 6000 gasmask premium deluxe edition

and you are still choking on shit in 30 seconds

[vernal trench]

Is this an actual set or another different yellow coat

I just noticed its different to the one i got

[half path]

we are kind of lucky we got minor plagues in the areas of atoma we have been to

[pseudo fiber]

Full steel legion set there's one for each class

[unreal nova]

Cos filters have a limit, and this is Nurgle's dook we are talking about.

[vernal trench]

So theres 2 yellow coats?

[pseudo fiber]

Yes there's 2

[vernal trench]

Or is that a zealot one im so confused

Damn when did the other one come out

The one i got is called armageddon whatever from 2 years ago

[half path]

but this one and variants like it are the normal you there charge across that minefield with just a lasgun uniform mask

[sly orchid]

Nurgle gas can also be warded off by having a blessed artifact of some kind

[half path]

and in regards to mechanised infantry needing to leave their tank if something happens were their tank is disabled i think they are essentially written off as dead anyway

and its a happy surprise if that doesnt happen

[atomic void]

uhm akswally 40k is exaggerated nd follows rule of cool

[vernal trench]

If this isnt steel legion what is this

[sly orchid]

Steel legion

[vernal trench]

Why he look different

[uncut pebble]

Actually, marketing a gas mask like this could unironically make it work.

[sly orchid]

Armaheddon steel legion

[vernal trench]

Oh

[pseudo fiber]

Here's the other classes ones btw

[vernal trench]

Man u supporting fatshark hard huh

[uncut pebble]

If enough humans believe hard enough in a gas mask being the "nurgle fucker 6000 gas mask premium deluxe edition" then it absolutely will be immune to nurgle fuckery.

[vernal trench]

The zealot one goes hard tho

[pseudo fiber]

Nah I just grabbed these from this server I'm waiting on Vostroyan

[sly orchid]

Frog thats orks

[vernal trench]

When did these come out?

[pseudo fiber]

End of September last year

[half path]

reference images of the steel legion sets its based on

[uncut pebble]

Orks have an easier time at it, humans and eldar still have the ability to do this. That's how the Emperor is on the verge of being an actual god.

[half path]

getting it in blue in game would fuck tbh

[rustic beacon]

I just need the scion helmet to come back and I'll be happy

[half path]

blue uniforms go hard

[atomic void]

drip vs dirty rags

[sly orchid]

Its because the emperor has trillions of people worshipping him

[vernal trench]

Ah that looks pretty accurate

[uncut pebble]

Yuh, now make trillions believe in the power of gas masks.

[sly orchid]

Fabius bile is the only dude to weaponize his thoughts

[vernal trench]

Blue kriegs

[uncut pebble]

Fabius Bile is a fuckin chad, despite being EC.

Looked an avatar of Slaanesh in the face while actively melting and said "nah you aint real bro."

[sly orchid]

Demons feel pain in his pressence and can even be banished

[half path]

emperors children are actually a pretty funny warband

i loved when they responded to an imperial distress signal
pretended to be loyalist space marines
and killed the tyranids attacking the world
even though they almost got fucked up by them
just to be like haha we own this world now

biggest larp

[uncut pebble]

He just exhibits an aura of raw "fuck you" energy, and not in the typical EC fashion.

The only one of his warband to exceed him in this was what's-his-face, the dreadnought.

The one that remained loyalist, his name is eluding me.

[north nimbus]

to be fair i am happy how my veteran look

[uncut pebble]

He said "catch this, chucklenuts" and threw a virus bomb at Fulgrim at point blank.

[half path]

he got the take out receipts of the stoner on a saturday night at 11pm

[north nimbus]

what

and is a she 😄

[uncut pebble]

He's saying your vet looks homeless.

[north nimbus]

what is wrong with my vet ?

[unreal nova]

Nobody knows if you use a mask. Blame whoever decided to use male body for almost every cosmetic for the female.

[half path]

Nah I’m talking about the long ass purity seals

They remind me of the McDonald’s receipts from an order you see someone stoned out their mind make

[half path]

I mean it’s flak armour lol

[half path]

My mistake

[unreal nova]

Still, if it were made more for a female body, it would be more pronounced even if still a plate.

Unless you are literally flat.

[half path]

I’ve heard women complain a lot about bullet proof vests not being very female friendly im assuming most armours would be the same

[agile forge]

sounds like you need more purity seals mate

[unreal nova]

It would be, would you enjoy tiny hard underwear crushing your stuff?

[half path]

My filter needs a purity seal RN!!!!

[unreal nova]

Or just putting pressure on it?

Nope, same thing.

[half path]

kind of goes back to what I was saying its made to stop a bullet and whatever else might try to kill you not show off your form so it’s kind of expected armors don’t have much differences in the game

[unreal nova]

But it's the same for non-armors.

Look at all the penal company shirts lul.

[half path]

It’s disrespectful to stare at people’s chests though…

[unreal nova]

I stare at my character. Wdym?

[soft trellis]

What about to kick someone over who just got a dog knocked off of them? #ogryn-class message

[unreal nova]

Gotta do that to dress them up.

[half path]

I have consulted the scriptures and it says it is sometimes ok to kick people especially if stairs are involved thus said the saint erm erm sorry the ink is faded

[north nimbus]

to be fair female in uniform can be mistaken for a man if they have face mask or helmet

[soft trellis]

looks at the smyker at the top of the stairs ... Good to know. >:3

[vernal trench]

The free cosmetics set

[unreal nova]

True. But still annoying tbh.

[visual badge]

earned cosmetics are vastly superior

[vernal trench]

Na pay to win bois

[visual badge]

bragging rights and people get to know how good (hopefully) you are

if insignias at least showed up in missions so I can brag my 100% vet

[vernal trench]

Mods

[unreal nova]

Naw, you see ppl with true survivor die in facepalm ways.

[visual badge]

okay but those you can be carried at

I have higher hope in like auric exampler than auric storm survivor

[unreal nova]

Both can be carried.

[visual badge]

well one is 10 missions, other is 5

[unreal nova]

Just more rng.

[visual badge]

so far I haven't been that dissapointed in examplers

[unreal nova]

Even the one where nobody goes down on auric mael.

Is just being carried while being a cockroach.

[soft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-tiny-kitchen-sponge-bob-tiny-kitchen-burger-gif-25042540

[visual badge]

well you have to pull your weight on auric maelstrom

[solar monolith]

the only title i can trust is poxbreaker 😤

[visual badge]

even if one goes down, that can mean the whole mission is over

at least I play with randoms, so yknow

that's always a gamble

[soft trellis]

Honestly... title means nothing to me, performance in the run is what matters >.>

[unreal nova]

More or less, but if you know who you are playing with well...

[half path]

there is only a insignia for that not a title

both auric titles are actually easier than the malice penance for 15 missions in a row without going down

cause they are outright dying and you are alot more likely to go down in a mission then outright die regardless of diff

[vernal trench]

Titles and insignias dont mean anything they can all be carried

[solar monolith]

i agree lmao i wasn't even being serious

[visual badge]

obviously if you have 3 good teammates and 1 bad, it won't matter that much

but if you're the only good one, it won't last long

[half path]

true survivor is kind of impressive though but it in no way means the person is a good and them trying less in a mission they join isnt a baring on their skill

[soft trellis]

wait if you have 3 good teammates... would that then, in this instance, make you the bad one? >.>

[half path]

like sometimes i just want to join a mission and turn my brain off

[visual badge]

no because I am actually really good (lie)

[unreal nova]

I know, I have the 15 missions penance. Did it when I absolutely sucked... 9/15 on psyker with too much stam and rest on Zealot.

[vernal trench]

Na

[unreal nova]

Pugged.

[vernal trench]

U can straight die 10 times and get true survivor

[visual badge]

even if you're bad at the game, you're distracting enemies from the good ones

you always have some value

[soft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-there-friends-homies-riding-cruising-gif-13823374

(to death)

[vernal trench]

And stacking 3 books and getting true survivor dont mean ur a good player

[half path]

needs to be outright deaths though so you need to know what will outright kill you and what wont

[unreal nova]

That run was recorded. Ask Chaos. No actual downs or deaths.

[half path]

and the most dangerous thing in high havoc is gunners and they will not outright kill you

they will down you super fast though

[unreal nova]

Also, if you knew my build, crushers cannot instakill me.

[visual badge]

havoc is just canon warhammer

[soft trellis]

So... like the base game, but, stronker?

[unreal nova]

I'm just a cockroach.

[vernal trench]

That aint hard when crushers one hit u and people cheese it by standing in blight until theyre on one wound

[visual badge]

I would play havoc if I had some people to play it with

[half path]

are these people in the room with us right now?

[solar monolith]

absolutely nothing can kill you lol

[visual badge]

still don't understand why fatshark decided to screw up matchmaking so bad in darktide

was it that hard to copy over vermintide

[unreal nova]

Well, flying off the map can.

[soft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/noahsunday-noah-sunday-scooby-noahsunday-dog-noah-sunday-dog-gif-15101427917556768021

This is how you get pugged to death ^

[vernal trench]

U see tons of them in party finder

[soft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/you-died-dog-running-cute-puppy-gif-15910803

or this

[unreal nova]

I suck, so I built myself to be excessively safe for it.

[half path]

did it fairy the other day and it was honestly really fun

[soft trellis]

"Just stop sucking, it's that easy" some rando, probably

[vernal trench]

Its fun when u dont cheese it

But tons of people cheese it and its jsut stupid

[solar monolith]

tbf i've been hosting a bunch of low havocs lately, shit's fun lol

[vernal trench]

Dooring bosses and making sure ur constantly on one wound

[unreal nova]

Still suck. Why do you think I call.myself bottom barrel heresy player?

[cloud thunder]

Had an inferno psyker who was like 240ish true level, havoc 40 clearance, we decided to take him as a pug in a havoc 40. Within minutes, it was very obvious he got carried. Lowest damage, didn’t know dome could block beast spit, kept downing every few minutes then dying and we had to kept ressing

[unreal nova]

[soft trellis]

Eh, I would need proof of that cuz I've seen some really bottom of the barrel scum in my time

[vernal trench]

Lmfao exactly what i mean

[half path]

if you can consistantly do the timing for door killing bosses you can take that w

i always miss it

[solar monolith]

damnation-ish spawn counts, malice hp, perfect for braindead gameplay

[vernal trench]

U see people who get carried onto true survivor constantly

[cloud thunder]

I even typed out like 10 times to dome vs beast to block spit

[vernal trench]

I queue party finder constantly snd i recognize the bad true survivor players

[vernal trench]

Whats his name

[cloud thunder]

Thought you stopped

Pugging

[cloud thunder]

Can’t say here

[unreal nova]

Ask Chaos. Don't ask Clad or he's just send you a clip of me having to clutch at 300 ping.

[solar monolith]

name, fatshark code, and social security number

[soft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/dogs-dog-pug-cute-holiday-gif-14320342701827350155

[vernal trench]

Na

[soft trellis]

to be fair I just learned recently that the bubble blocks nurgle vomit(because I don't play havoc and all I have seen are bad bubble psykers)

[vernal trench]

I did one earlier today for my weekly 40

[solar monolith]

YOU'RE NEVER ON WHEN I AM

[tame void]

in the grim dark future, my package was late

[unreal nova]

[cloud thunder]

I mean I learned this very quickly like a few days within of playing the game

[tame void]

dude going thru literally hell to deliver my shit

[unreal nova]

I had 3 days to farm.

And reset happened so see you this Sunday.

[soft trellis]

I haven't used bubble on psyker... and all I have gotten are bad bubble psykers x.x

[vernal trench]

Idk half or more than that of the oens i see on havocs atleast know to bubble a nurgle

Whether or not they dont constantly die is another question

[soft trellis]

<.<

[unreal nova]

It works in malice, what do you mean?

[vernal trench]

Oh

[unreal nova]

I learnt it in malice by accident.

[vernal trench]

Yea havoc 40 pubs are bad enough lmao outside that its just speechless

[soft trellis]

and I don't use bubble on psyker >.>

[cloud thunder]

Aurics are a coin flip sometimes when it comes to teammates

[soft trellis]

mostly cuz I haven't gotten around to it

[cloud thunder]

Sometimes I have to ultra instinct carry so hard until they do something that screws me over then when I down, we all wipe. Immediately

[vernal trench]

Well anything is tbf

[soft trellis]

I can accurately say that calling the randos I've seen trash is an insult to trash... because of how much more useful trash is than those randos...

[vernal trench]

Lmfao i cant agree more

[visual badge]

unless youre running meta, you cant get far solo in auric damnation/maelstrom

if everyone else is dead

[vernal trench]

I mean sometimes i play like dogshit when im tired but some people are just dogshit everytime i play with them

[unreal nova]

Hi. Wanna carry me?

[cloud thunder]

Nah I can hard carry as EK assail DD psyker

[vernal trench]

Na

[soft trellis]

Maybe tomorrow lol

[austere pine]

@slow sky what gun do you use for the entrenching tool?

[vernal trench]

Auric maelstroms are easy enough u can literally run most builds and solo clutch it

Its pretty forgiving

[cloud thunder]

Had a guy specifically talk shit an entire game just because I pinged I need ammo once

[soft trellis]

I am tired today x.x

[vernal trench]

lmfao public cames go wild man

[unreal nova]

Mostly joking. I'm just lazy panic mode all the time anyway.

[cloud thunder]

And I did 3x everything more than the combined team did

[soft trellis]

Don't you disrespect panic, panic mode is my bread and butter x.x

I've pulled my best clutches in it lol

[vernal trench]

Half the teams i play with on pubs wipe within minutes

They just aint it

[unreal nova]

What do you mean, even Chaos calls me panic girl. Or hard mode.

[cloud thunder]

Won’t point who shit talked but this was the game I’m talking about

[vernal trench]

Who is chaos

[vernal trench]

Why not point it

[soft trellis]

Panicking for most players means death. Not for a panic gamer, we get better when panicking >.>'

[unreal nova]

AgentChaos.

[cloud thunder]

Last game I did before I logged for the night

[vernal trench]

Is that a maelstrom

Or did u guys lose mid match

[unreal nova]

Why do you think I sometimes is last one down even with lag and being bottom barrel.

[cloud thunder]

Mael. That’s a win screen

[soft trellis]

Exactly

[solar monolith]

Karien's panic mode is literally ultra instinct

[vernal trench]

Lmao muties are so funny

[unreal nova]

Just with more, "Nonono, go away. I hate you. Just die already. No, shoo. Go away, go away now!"

[austere pine]

gulp

[visual badge]

how do people play with such wide monitors

[cloud thunder]

I had a game @vernal trench

[soft trellis]

Last big panic I had I did a solo clutch in an auric maelstrom on my ogryn... with 180 ping cuz yamato dragged me and argus into an auric maelstrom in an asia server(we won)

[visual badge]

2-3 business days for my eyes to travel left to right

[cloud thunder]

Where it was poison the phage tree mission

You know that one?

[vernal trench]

Yea ive done it a couple times since they made the stupid tree

[austere pine]

hab dreyko

[soft trellis]

iirc it was specialist waves, mutie waves, hunting grounds, and pox gas

[cloud thunder]

Super hard carried the entire game. Then right where the ship was. Full team alive. Ship area. I got netted by a trapper that wasn’t intended for me with flamer and flame barrel that went off on me. I told everyone. Just go on ship. Dw about me. They ALL tried to res me and we died. Imagine hard carrying the entire game just for them to fuck it up

Right AT the ship.

[soft trellis]

I'm pretty sure that has happened to me, I just have forgotten it due to trauma x.x

and I don't mean the staff lol

[cloud thunder]

💀

[vernal trench]

Had a havoc 40 where the guy wouldnt die at the end and my friend coudlnt extract at the elevator

The guy just cant stand still to die

[soft trellis]

I've actually stopped playing auric/maelstrom with 3 randos cuz it just isn't fun for me anymore :/

[cloud thunder]

I do it

To practice

Solo carrying

[soft trellis]

I used to, and had fun

[vernal trench]

Its good practice if u solo queue in havocs

[soft trellis]

Not anymore, and I just play for fun nowadays

[vernal trench]

But im dragging my own feet by bringing a slow ass powersword

[soft trellis]

If havoc was fun for me I'd do it, but, it's the same thing as vt2 weaves... and weaves weren't fun for me either

[vernal trench]

Idk its not for everyone

[soft trellis]

It was never for me

[vernal trench]

Its fun if u enjoy playing hard gamemodes

[soft trellis]

I don't mind hard game modes, it's the way it is played

[vernal trench]

but some people jsut like to play the game

[unreal nova]

I want box for penances and stockpile for whenever more max curios drop.

[vernal trench]

U what

[soft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-boxing-jump-yeet-gif-22560829

[unreal nova]

My curios are a mess, I need more for auric vs h40.

[soft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/mess-viralhog-dog-pet-who-did-this-gif-20164045

karien's curios ^

[unreal nova]

No. Stam hp hp.

[vernal trench]

I got maxed curios for my vet and im happy with them

[unreal nova]

Cdr corruption resist hp.

[soft trellis]

I know the feeling of meh curios, I have 6 level 30 characters

[unreal nova]

Why do you think crushers cannot 1 shot?

[vernal trench]

Why corruption resustance tho

[unreal nova]

Green goop on floor with 300 ping is a gamble.

[vernal trench]

Lmfao

How do u survive a crysher overhead they instant kill

[soft trellis]

uh... even with 200 ping it would be a gamble lol

[unreal nova]

I could be on green goop, or I might not be even when I'm on.

[vernal trench]

Ive only seen ogryns tank an overhead cuz they got a ton of hp and tough

[unreal nova]

I take about a third of my bar with that build of corruption.

So i end with 2 hp, a third of my bar corrupted.

Untill clutch as well.

[vernal trench]

U mean on ur zealot of vet?

[soft trellis]

zelly prob

[unreal nova]

If that was down, and if I'm full, I would just go down. Zealot.

I only h40 on zealot.

[vernal trench]

I mean