veteran-class

[wanton dawn]

This is my build for ref

It is a weird duck. Dont copy

[dusky kernel]

A saber and Bistol

[terse idol]

heres my opinion
don't take survivalist go middle take fire team

[orchid hemlock]

Survivalist cope outside of no ammo drop or Havoc is real 😔

[terse idol]

Because you need to get superiority complex

[terse idol]

None survivalist with helbore my beloved

[dusky kernel]

I also have a saber/Helbore build I wanna make for cosplaying a Kriegsman on the side lmao

[orchid hemlock]

Only weapons that "need" survivalist are: BAG, PG, Bolt

[dusky kernel]

Does that include the Bistol?

[orchid hemlock]

No

[dusky kernel]

MORE DAMAGE IT IS

[orchid hemlock]

Shredder grenades however 🤔

[terse idol]

You can do

Helbore with a shovel

Take hotshot on helbore

Take uncanny on shovel

Boom easy build krieg larp

[versed merlin]

remember when you could get stuff like this before

[dusky kernel]

Alright now we got...

https://gyazo.com/44a61619d21bc7a38daba102d605e9ac

[dusky kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-that-kyle-south-park-freaked-out-ew-gif-21544758

[hollow ibex]

You want redirect fire with FT

[dusky kernel]

I'll have to take a point somewhere.

[hollow ibex]

I'd just move the point from target down to redirect fire

[versed merlin]

melk's emporium with its finest back in the day

[dusky kernel]

You mean covering fire?

[versed merlin]

the toughness you get from killing marked targets isnt as relevant as you think

i'd remove that and put it somewhere else

[hollow ibex]

Uh whatever that other FT subnode is that you're currently taking

[dusky kernel]

LMFAO YUP I Got you

https://gyazo.com/5b83b4b527859bd138e70fdd277197be

Final draft

[hollow ibex]

Is this for helbore?

[dusky kernel]

Bistol and Saber

We making a Commissar

[hollow ibex]

Where redirect fire

I was saying take redirect fire, not covering fire or whatever that's called

[dusky kernel]

Hold on lemme try to find it LMAO

OH

[hollow ibex]

It's right under FT

[dusky kernel]

I see it now

I thoght you meant Fire team

[hollow ibex]

Oh lol sorry that was confusing

[dusky kernel]

https://gyazo.com/60acb840a2619f9be354dd6bd5c3152c

NOW Final draft

[versed merlin]

that is much better

[dusky kernel]

PERFECT Now lets see if this will help me carry somewhat when I am SURROUNDED by a bunch of people who are as useful as screen door in a submarine.

Thanks for the help.

[hollow ibex]

Make sure you have lethal prox and puncture on your bistol

And good luck

[dusky kernel]

Uncanny Strike and Riposte good on my saber?

[hollow ibex]

Yup

[grand perch]

silences your bolter

[tall torrent]

this is basically the default entry-level veteran build

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[heavy rover]

Bolter loudener when

[dusky kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-vermintide-2/clips/jzXCNdv1xrNpJ9m7R?invite=cr-MSwwZEcsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[versed osprey]

what build does veteran use on Havoc with the lasgun to have almost infinite ammo while shooting almost everything?

[narrow frost]

the crit talents and shock trooper

[tropic halo]

The most sane Slayer main

[tame lodge]

It's generally this but like

It may change depending on your weapon

[faint beacon]

Ainz fucked up bad and I wasn’t expecting him to just jump into a pit and die immediately lmao

[versed osprey]

should I use focus target?

[north nimbus]

is this like most balanced stats i can get ????

[versed osprey]

isnt this for zealot?

[north nimbus]

yeah but i was askin solly about stats spread

veteran chat was open already 😄

[tall torrent]

Yea

[versed osprey]

Should I be able to melt crushers with the autolasgun?

[hollow ibex]

You can but it's not really worth building for

[versed osprey]

so no carapace on my lasgun?

[hollow ibex]

No def not

Check pins

[sacred igloo]

Lasgun basically does 0 damage to carapace so its pointless, only way to get around that is using the infernus blessing to kill them but you'd be better off using literally anything else

Just a huge waste of ammo generally

Helbore can kinda do it but then you're running a helbore, which yknow...

[tame lodge]

Not kinda
It can shoot carapace

1-2 shots (depending on the build)

[faint beacon]

True

[sacred igloo]

Best I can get it to do is 4 on crushers with armourbane and FT

[faint beacon]

Recon you run onslaught though typically

[sacred igloo]

All headshots

[faint beacon]

ILGs

I don’t really recall if it used rending or not

[tame lodge]

Armourbane, you're using the mk5

[faint beacon]

But it did absolutely delete ragers lmao

[terse idol]

Helbore is good

Well in general tbh

[sacred igloo]

Its the 3a

[terse idol]

The gameplay loop of it just takes some time to get used to

[sacred igloo]

Unless you mean to use mk5

[terse idol]

But agile engagement increasing your bayonett damage which increase ranges damage helps it

[sacred igloo]

Only thing I dont really like about it is the draw time

But I can still top damage with it so w/e

[tame lodge]

Armourbane is semi decent on the mk5
Everything else is Surgical Weight of Fire

[tall torrent]

Not really worth

[tame lodge]

(small mention of hotshot)

[tall torrent]

Helbore’s ADMs are fairly high across the board

[tame lodge]

[terse idol]

Hotshot with standard shovel my beloved

[hollow ibex]

Maybe I should make a dedicated shovel melee build

With hotshot

[sacred igloo]

I liked the folding shovel for a while

It's not terrible, just outclassed by other melee options

[hollow ibex]

I'm a purist

None of that fancy folding shit that the kids use now these days

[faint beacon]

The Mk7 is alright it’s just outclassed

By a lot of options

[hollow ibex]

All the shovels got kinda shat on tbh

[faint beacon]

MK1 is barely clinging onto relevancy

Mk7 and 3 just don’t exist anymore

[terse idol]

Imo mk1 with hotshot

Its got gas

Because of uncanny with it

[tame lodge]

Uncanny Skrusher
Special into PA

[sullen jackal]

veteran has like 1,000% rending so can rip through carapace with recon lasguns

needs right side talent i recall

[terse idol]

It takes onslaught

[sacred igloo]

What perks do you usually run on helbore? I've been running with flak and weak spot damage but I feel like weak spot damage might not be it

[terse idol]

And the rending talent

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I tried it briefly. I think I'll make a dedicated build for it

[terse idol]

it's expensive

[terse idol]

Weakspot damage is very bad

since iirc it's a modifier to the weakspot damage

not the total damage

[sacred igloo]

Normally I do flak unyielding but I have my melee for unyielding

Maniac ig?

[forest scaffold]

It's a modifier to the damage between regular and weakspot damage

[terse idol]

Why not flak cara?

Or like flak man

[forest scaffold]

So if you do 100 body and 200 weakspot, its a modifier to 100 damage

for whatever fucked reason

[terse idol]

I dunno if cara will change the BP doe

[sacred igloo]

Thats ass wtf

[forest scaffold]

Same as in VT2 IIRC

In any case, fatshark is afraid of big multipliers

I get it, but its too far in the wrong direction in this case

[sullen jackal]

understanding finesse and how that convoluted system works with crits, weakspots, and critical weakspots is a path to madness

[forest scaffold]

Which is why the uh. . . I forget the name of the blessing

but its +100% weakspot damage or whatever

because its useless otherwise

[dusky kernel]

Commissar build is certainly handling auric shit quite well good shit guys.

[forest scaffold]

shouty vet is stupid op

welcome to the club

[dusky kernel]

It certainly is, and the constant grenade lobbing certainly has fixed MOST problems.

[terse idol]

I thought it was worse than rhat

I thought it was just a percentage to the weakspot damage you did

Like

If you did 100 weak spot damage

And your weakspot mod is 12%

You get 12 damage

[tame lodge]

Deadly Accurate?

[terse idol]

So a total of 112

[forest scaffold]

oh yeah, that's right

its been a minute since I've thought about darktide math lmao

[forest scaffold]

correct

[terse idol]

Yeah it's just the way modifiers effect total damage

Its just so much worse

Unless the modifier is big

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, hence deadly accurate being +100%

because it was unuseable in its pre-buffed state

I should roll up an exe vet speaking of deadly accurate

Kinda wanna dork around with "Stand still and shoot" again

mg12 my beloved

[forest scaffold]

rest in piss shredder autopistol though

[tame lodge]

🗣️

[forest scaffold]

god you suck so bad. No more mobile exe vets running around the map with it up 24/7 hunting down yellow guardsmen

[coarse wolf]

traitor guardsmen though so it's fine

[dusky kernel]

Alright cause I am curious, what is the HEAVIEST loadout a Vet can bring? We talking Karskin/Tempestus level shit.

[terse idol]

In canon?
Or well I guess it's pretty equivalent to the game

Plasma and the boltgun are pretty heavy, plasma specifically for anti-armour purposes

[stiff glacier]

I love stealth plasma

[sullen jackal]

plasma/boltgun for ranged, melee likely the combat axe because the chainaxe kinda shit ngl

[terse idol]

Hotshot volley guns

[quartz nymph]

The ol' Karskin double tap

[terse idol]

'heavy plasma gun'

[tall torrent]

For IIIa and IV, elite + maniac
For V, unarmored + maniac

[forest scaffold]

Are we talking in-game only? Chain Axe and Bolter probably.

Lore? Literally anything crew mounted.

[tall torrent]

Finesse related calculations

It’s not hard to understand once u figure out which goes into which bracket

The crit weakspot calculation is why duellist and DD are broken

[quartz nymph]

What's DD?

[tall torrent]

Disrupt destiny (psyker keystone)

[quartz nymph]

Ah gotcha

[dusky kernel]

So Plasma/Bolter and probably a power sword then? Reason I ask is cause I am LOVING the commissar, but this also seems as much as I can keep my team alive despite their... Uh, lack of game awareness in spreading. I am doing the event stuff in Auric and kinda wanna contribute to taking out the amount of OGRYNS that are coming our way. So I was wondering what would be like, the BEST option to do the event and get all the cool stuff.

[quartz nymph]

Your dueling sword should be pretty decent at taking down crushers

[terse idol]

Boltgun

With like

A ds4 or a powersword

[quartz nymph]

Power sword mk6 has the SP > BC > PA > Follow up bonk that will delete crushers

Also empowered is some good horde clear

[dusky kernel]

Should I be using the Mk IV or MK II dueling sword?

[quartz nymph]

4

[sullen jackal]

play with each one and see which one you like

[quartz nymph]

4 seems the meta pick but like null said play around with what feels comfortable to you

[tame lodge]

4

[dusky kernel]

I like them both, and I do like the Mk II heavier/meatier swings better though.

[tame lodge]

Mk2 is better but you need to use your brain more

[hollow ibex]

Aight I'm out

[quartz nymph]

4 thrust attack is a single target machine that's easy to pick up and play

[terse idol]

Mk4 is pretty like brain dead imo, so it's like super easy to use

P1 Special

P1

Special

[dusky kernel]

I've not played enough for me to have brain thinky room in game yet, I am REALLY good at dodging and melee though cause I played the HELL outta Vermintide though.

[terse idol]

Dead

[terse idol]

You'll like ds4 because it plays like saltz rapier

But even faster

With pokes

[sullen jackal]

i think one of them has the defense stat instead of cleave damage, cleave damage should be the dump stat I recall and on that mark it makes your dodges SUUUUUUUUPER long

like longest in the game

so that could be fun

[tame lodge]

Mk5 has defence

[dusky kernel]

HUH

So that's what Mobility is good for then? And cleave should be dump? I figured cleave would be good for mobbing in general

[sullen jackal]

or wait technically yeah if you want max dodges you should dump penetration but don't do that unless you're me and crazy

[terse idol]

I liked how the mk5 felt

[tame lodge]

Cleave Damage affects Flak, Unarmored and Infested
But apparently Flak is bugged
Infested is whatever, mostly hordes
But I do consider unarmored important

[dusky kernel]

So what you're saying is cleave is kinda moot right now cause of the bug?

[terse idol]

Not for all weapons

Also because dueling sword cleave is like already stinky

I didn't hear that cleave was bugged however

[quartz nymph]

Combat knife horde clear stays winning

[dusky kernel]

Knife horde clear? Hwat? How? Like, you stab with the knife not SWIPE and SLASH LMAO

[tame lodge]

Nope

At 60% Cleave Damage, with Precognition up
You'll meet breakpoints for Groaners (unarmored) on lights,
Both Shotgunners on heavies, Scab Gunner on heavies
But you're 200 Dmg off on Dreg Gunners

Weakspot hits of course

[normal bay]

Did something happen Krak grenades? I swear they had way better throwing distance before the update

[vestal widget]

bear in mind also that half the ppl i've queued into for ogryn mod rn are newer players bringing ds4 for ogryns but questionable horde management/kiting/positioning

so all rounder like rashad/ps etc won't be bad when the team gets pinched by backspawned horde + ogryn patrol from in front or smth

[dusky kernel]

What would you say is a good Vet build for me to jump in there and just learn the mechanics and such?

[forest scaffold]

if you're competent in melee: Rashad/Antax, Power Sword(I prefer the 6 over the 3), and Dueling Swords

If you want to stick to ranged: Rending nodes and literally anything. If you don't want to fuck up your tree pathing for rending, Plasma Gun or Helbore

[tall torrent]

Cleave damage doesn’t matter for mk4 duelling sword because it doesn’t cleave most things well in the first place, it’s a single target one trick

[jaunty tinsel]

what is your guy's favorite guns to kill elites in havoc?

[vestal widget]

if you want simple weps to concentrate on other stuff,

probably some kinda power weapon setup like combat axe/ds4 + revolver/plasma or smth. ps is also good but I don't like the flow of activate block cancel ps every couple of hits personally.

ranged wep prob plasma/revolver simplest

[tame lodge]

A Lasgun

[jaunty tinsel]

which one

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984525651904176209/1327912507150565436/IMG_2005.png?ex=679a8b25&is=679939a5&hm=f0ea02aed12c49e2b14aee3d8213a2dc2e053a0c5a01a657c7865f492492ad2c&

[vestal widget]

oh, build

[dusky kernel]

Oh shit that's right I forgot this was posted earlier.

[tame lodge]

2b, 7
Recon Vic
Helbore any

[tall torrent]

This is a very standard entry-level veteran build for non-havoc missions

[terse idol]

Well

[jaunty tinsel]

thanks, maybe i have the wrong pattern but right now my recon feels like a super soaker against gunners

[terse idol]

With the knowledge that you need to know if the rending is worth it

[jaunty tinsel]

on it i have 10% damage vs elite, +5% crit chance, DumDum, and the one that gives u crit chance for headshots

[vestal widget]

in havoc why not infernus

[tall torrent]

There’re 2 ways to build recon

Option 1 is flak + crit chance, dum dum + interns

Option 3 is flak + maniac, dum dum + deathspitter

[vestal widget]

and get your crit chance from reciprocity

instead of headshots

[tall torrent]

If ur talking about havoc, go option 1

[jaunty tinsel]

mostly bcuz last time i checked everyone said go headshot instead of infernus

[vestal widget]

and the 5% crit node

[terse idol]

Headhunter ain't good

[jaunty tinsel]

sounds like i go back to infernus then lol

[terse idol]

For recon

[jaunty tinsel]

noted to swap elite for flak

[vestal widget]

you can fit in the 5% crit node, 5% crit perk and reciprocity and it seems to give a nice amount of crit to let you take another damage bless basically

infernus for havoc/boss builds, deathspitter in generic purpose auric builds

might try infernus las in ogryn mod, hmm

[dusky kernel]

https://gyazo.com/134a7acfbb87757a5f3d9b4884db3ebb

How's this for a Helbore build then?

[terse idol]

Imo, i think infernus works for like auric too

[tall torrent]

Don’t take longshot basically ever

[jaunty tinsel]

i personally am a fan of shocktrooper but its always been controversial every time its been brought up afaik

[terse idol]

Its fine and got better

[loud belfry]

i wish you could fully unlock a weapon and just fully freely change blessings and perks at will.

[jaunty tinsel]

it did?

[midnight totem]

my week's havoc

[terse idol]

Sometimes I skip survivalist if I take shock troope

[dusky kernel]

Isn't that what the update did?

[terse idol]

Iirc there was a patch that lowered the cooldown of it

[jaunty tinsel]

oh sick

[terse idol]

So you dooo get more ammo back from say using a recon

Or well

Conserve more ammo

[loud belfry]

it still costs stuff to change them

[vestal widget]

oh yeah, it def works but I like my excuse to play deathspitter also for the variety so

[jaunty tinsel]

what changes would you make for havoc here?

[vestal widget]

take survivalist at the least

[quartz nymph]

Is focus target not appropriate for outside of havoc?

[vestal widget]

focus target is to hit bps

[dusky kernel]

What should I take instead then?

[vestal widget]

so wep dependent

[dusky kernel]

Should I just put that point in Demo team?

[vestal widget]

oh wait is that a helbore build?

[dusky kernel]

It is indeed

[tame lodge]

Basically FT is second pick

Or only helps specific weapons

[vestal widget]

Build around agile engagement instead then

Still got a bunch of points to spend; reciprocity is good probably if you gotta shoot faster,

I don't remember bps for helbore wrt superiority complex/rending/etc

[quartz nymph]

Gotcha. So weapon specialists is more of all rounder type of build

[vestal widget]

Agile engagement works on h elbore bayonet basically

and wep swap speed is kinda nice qol on it

can grab confirmed kill too anyway, but i like out for blood for getting some ranged toughness regen

when i'm hanging out and fighting shooters at range

[dusky kernel]

Should I bring a sholvel to complete the full look? LMFAO

[tall torrent]

Focus target depends on the weapons you bring

[tall torrent]

What melee are u using

[tall torrent]

What melee are u using

[hollow ibex]

Melee focused build

[quartz nymph]

I run combat knife and bistol/revolver. I just stick on knife for the most part and take down elites and specials at range with the gun

[orchid hemlock]

What melee are u using? 🤔

[quartz nymph]

Sometimes use the caxe

[hollow ibex]

That works, WS really incentives a swapping playstyle

[dusky kernel]

Was probably thinking a Dueling Sword since that's what I am stuck on and enjoy most. But we cooking something else now.

[hollow ibex]

Kill three guys with melee. Swap to ranged and kill one guy. Swap back to melee

[orchid hemlock]

I feel like the wave clear is lacking tho

[vestal widget]

there are worse choices. obvs power weps like knife/ds4/ps/caxe will work great so your comfort pick out of them is fine

[quartz nymph]

I also like playing cknife+dbl barrel with WS

[dusky kernel]

BET. Gonna run this real quick and see if it works. Thanks.

[tall torrent]

Duelling sword is super strong but it can give u a lot of bad habits

[warm walrus]

what's a good pairing for bolter and plasma? ds is obvious but im also looking at power sword

[vestal widget]

helbore is a bit clunky cos of draw speed so it needs a bit of forward planning compared to stuff like insta-swap revolver etc

[warm walrus]

rashad is a maybe but it needs investment, so im running it with 2b lasgun

[dusky kernel]

What you recommending?

[tall torrent]

They’re 2 very different weapons that usually play in wildly different builds

[warm walrus]

oh my brain wasn't working. i meant what melee weapons to take with them

[tall torrent]

Plasma gets more options

Boltgun basically only gets to run low point cost horde clear melee

[warm walrus]

got it

power sword for boltgun?

[tall torrent]

Works

Boltgun is best with exe stance

[warm walrus]

i was running brumomentum rashad with it

[tall torrent]

Not enough points

[warm walrus]

aye

[tall torrent]

Rashad fits for plasma

[warm walrus]

hence was, i need a different melee

gotcha

[hollow ibex]

Heavy sword

I run taxe though

But heavy sword is very good with bolter

[warm walrus]

bet, thank you

power sword wants power cycler correct?

[loud belfry]

needs, one could say

[hollow ibex]

Always

[warm walrus]

thinking flak+maniac, and power cycler and brutal momentum

[hollow ibex]

It's literally a blessing tax

[warm walrus]

i can be convinced to switch to unarmored for one of the blessings, the plan is heavy spam to hammer hordes

[hollow ibex]

Run elite instead of flak

[warm walrus]

rog

[hollow ibex]

But otherwise looks good

[loud belfry]

the least they could do is make the power sword stay on even when hit

[warm walrus]

elite+maniac, brumo+power cyc. bet

[loud belfry]

like relic blade not only stays on when you get hit but turning it on autoblocks everything ever ;_;

[quartz nymph]

I do wish power sword was on a meter like relic blade. Idk or something

[tall torrent]

Elite + maniac
Power cycler
Brutal momentum/sunder

[warm walrus]

i hear you, will do. spam heavies for hordes yes?

[quartz nymph]

Feels awkward having to activate > block cancel every 3 swings

[hollow ibex]

Yeah psword feels ass to use compared to relic blade

[tall torrent]

No

Use mk6

[quartz nymph]

Light spam mk6 iirc

[tall torrent]

Activate, block cancel, light 3 times

Repeat this for everything that’s not carapace / unyielding

[warm walrus]

cancel?

[quartz nymph]

Press block while activating the sword. Protects your front and ends the animation sooner

[warm walrus]

im aware of branx pickaxe having a horde clear loop of push attack->heavy/light loop but first time hearing of a block cancel

Ah, got it

[tall torrent]

Tap block at the end of activation

[warm walrus]

gotcha

[warm walrus]

whats the plan for carapace/unyielding?

activate, heavy?

[quartz nymph]

Activate > cancel > push attack > light

[hollow ibex]

Follow up is a light BTW

[warm walrus]

wilco

[terse idol]

Iirc zealots does turn off in specific situations

[hollow ibex]

But otherwise what admiral said

[tall torrent]

Activate, push atk, L4
Repeat

[terse idol]

Again I'm saying the power sword is like old fs weapon design

[hollow ibex]

You have to get knocked basically

[terse idol]

They've gotten better but they need to remaster it

[faint beacon]

Hard knock back

Aka anything that launches players

Barrels Monstro slams etc

[dusky kernel]

Sweet Emperor I am headshotting Ogryns out of existence and I've yet to spend ammo this is bonkers.

[quartz nymph]

Put the karkin' boot in

[orchid hemlock]

Sorry had to post this image here since Zealot chat is cucked atm 😔 @radiant chasm

[warm walrus]

helbore?

[dusky kernel]

Yup

[warm walrus]

noice

[supple laurel]

clutch

oh wait wrong clip

bro

we ignore that clip

[dusky kernel]

Caught in 4k

[supple laurel]

ive already posted it here LOL

[dusky kernel]

Damn bruh then stop self snitching

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

[tame lodge]

The one where you asked the daemon to show what he was hosting

[dusky kernel]

Was it Netflix?

[supple laurel]

hold up posting the clip rn

meant this

[dusky kernel]

NOICE

[faint beacon]

Stop the train before it’s too late!

Peak mentioned

[tawdry jackal]

nice

[tropic halo]

That was a close one

[terse idol]

Holy

I'm surprised you even stopped to try to pick the guy falling up

[tropic halo]

I never noticed how damn beautiful the game looks in max settings it is insane the visuals

[supple laurel]

wouldve if it wasnt a bot

[faint beacon]

Day 600 of waiting for shart shark to let you use your rejects to fill in as bots

[quartz nymph]

That'd be neat

[pulsar radish]

Day 600 of wanting a hotshot volley gun

😦

[dusky kernel]

Me too.

[pulsar radish]

I think we might get power fist or something for our weapon in march.

[dusky kernel]

Power fist? Really? Isn't that part of Space Marine armor?

[pulsar radish]

Nah guard sargents use it, a power fist is its own weapon

[dusky kernel]

Shiet you right.

[tropic halo]

We believe

Until we get more marks

[pulsar radish]

Since GW want "close to model like gear selections"

Imo we are getting a power fist

or

[dusky kernel]

I would like to see veteran have heavier weapons so to speak, something akin to an LMG or something would be awesome.

[pulsar radish]

This minus the cyber mastiff

[tropic halo]

Can I pet that dawg

[pulsar radish]

Since they showed the unit being highly effective in the tithe video

[pulsar radish]

The only other "special" weapon we don't have is the melta/flamer/nade launcher.

Which puts us as a special weapons unit at that point

But we won't receive a flamer zealot has it

[tropic halo]

A grenade launcher would be interesting

[pulsar radish]

I don't think a melta has a good place in tide.

So the nade Launcher or power fist are probable picks of I was betting

[tropic halo]

Not the most effective for armour but would be good for crowd control and hordes

[pulsar radish]

Depends

Special activation could be krak nades

[tropic halo]

[pulsar radish]

So you'd switch between krak and frag

[faint beacon]

Shredders without the bleed

Cause kraks alone are strong as hell

[pulsar radish]

Bonus points if they let you load the nade Launcher and store it

Eg: out of 6 you load 3 frag 2 krak 1 frag

[forest scaffold]

huh

would wouldn't want a plasma gun shotgun

(Since the plasma gun already uses one iteration of the melta gun)

[pulsar radish]

Technically speaking the melta is..inconsistent as he'll when described lol

Sometimes it's a beam, sometimes it's a blob

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, Boltgun's Melta is Darktide's plasma gun

the meltagun in Space Marine 2 is a shotgun

[pulsar radish]

Meltagun for guards would be anti tank

Probably great for monsters and crushers

[forest scaffold]

nah

[pulsar radish]

Poor against everything with low ammo

[forest scaffold]

we have plasma gun already

just use SM2's iteration

[pulsar radish]

Again I just don't see it working

[forest scaffold]

and make it a crowd weapon

[faint beacon]

They made it like that mainly cause the lack of a shotgun in game, Meltas in lore are a consistent beam

[forest scaffold]

an objectively better kantrael lmao

[forest scaffold]

considering that space marines get a literal boltgun shotgun

[faint beacon]

Or they could just buff Combat shotguns

[forest scaffold]

I wonder why they made the melta a shotgun

[pulsar radish]

So do we.

[forest scaffold]

granted

[faint beacon]

And reward for consistent tracking with melta

[pulsar radish]

Technically speaking the shotgun we have can be a bolt shotgun

[forest scaffold]

in Caiphas Cain's novels, Jurgens melta is described as a "Fuck you" button within 20 meters

very much a shotgun

[pulsar radish]

Tbf I'd like more Armoured units if they are doing that

Maybe bearers of plague

:p

[forest scaffold]

That said, I think melta gun can't be introduced without power creeping enemies even further

[pulsar radish]

^

[forest scaffold]

with like you said, big fuck off nurgle plague monsters

[pulsar radish]

I mean technically plague bearers aren't bad

Add those and Nurglings to force you to look down more

And maybe the evolved form of the beasts of burgleb

The flys

But we also just stopped the summoning

[forest scaffold]

I don't see fatshark adding any more enemies though, which is sadge

I think they learned their lesson in VT2

[pulsar radish]

So I think we slapped that down

[forest scaffold]

The plague bomber feels more like a final rounding out of the enemy types

more than the start to a new trend of content

but who knows, maybe I eat my shoes

[pulsar radish]

Please do

Watch out for the nurgle rot in the sole

Please get the joke..

[forest scaffold]

I'm too tired for that right now sorry

[hollow ibex]

Maybe more bosses 🤔

[pulsar radish]

The fly makes sense

Beasts of nurgle when they die get really sad

And turn into flies

Huge massive flies.

That being said I wish they'd also convert our power sword to the new measure of the heat system lol

[forest scaffold]

oh speaking of content

[faint beacon]

I’d rather we have more supportive units if they’ll add anymore

[forest scaffold]

holy shit I hate the new commissar's voice

what an awful va

Just get an actual russian person if you're going to force a russian accent

jesus christ

/unvent

[pulsar radish]

Lol

What's everyone's hopes for our weapon?

[wanton dawn]

++REDACTED++

[pulsar radish]

When..they remember veterans are part of the game

[forest scaffold]

multilas

or even just a lascannon

I don't give a shit

where space mg42

[dusky kernel]

Until then, my next possible cosplay build will be a Cadian Shock troop cause I just I just absolutely love Guardsmen lmao.

[pulsar radish]

We defo ain't getting the multi las

[forest scaffold]

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt must be mine

[pulsar radish]

I don't think we'd get a lascannon either

We aren't hench like sarge Harker

[forest scaffold]

Its also ogryn's wheelhouse

[pulsar radish]

Mans lifting s heavy bolter and ammo solo

Multilas is normally turret based

[hollow ibex]

Yeah she sounds like a Russian Karen

[pulsar radish]

And we'd never give ogryns a lascannon

To important

They'd smash it

[dusky kernel]

They wouldn't figure out how to reload it

[pulsar radish]

A volley gun would give you what you want though puri

They are known for high rate of fire and power per shot but require q backpack normally to make good use of em

[forest scaffold]

That's actually not true

[terse idol]

@tall torrent what would you use for the 2nd blessing for the fastest firing helbore anywho?
I'm like still surgical pilled but I'm using hotshot for the shovel, but would you rather infernus or armourbane?

[forest scaffold]

Ogryns can have up to 5 lascannons in a squad on the tabletop

they're also given autocannons

[pulsar radish]

Well if its in the table top they might then

[forest scaffold]

considering the last thing fatshark gave us was single barrel stubbers

I don't think we're getting either

Fatshark is stupidly stingy about the weapons in this game

which honestly the biggest killer

[terse idol]

Well

[pulsar radish]

But considering our smartest oggy has his B.O.N.E implant on the fritz it's oofers

[terse idol]

Gotta get approved by GW or something

[forest scaffold]

the balance is still all over the place for them, and there's not enough of them to make up for it

[pulsar radish]

Tbf they've only just got the game to 1.0

Atleast in my eyes

[terse idol]

Now to be faiiir

Vet is abit more balanced

Ogryns kinda tough

[pulsar radish]

You know what they need to do?

[terse idol]

Zealot having 1 talent route be kinda depressing

[pulsar radish]

Make blessings actually good on some guns

Opening salvo is weird.

[terse idol]

I mean it's good

On some guns

[pulsar radish]

It is

[forest scaffold]

Opening Salvo is so stupid

Horde game

wait 2 seconds for a blessing refresh

like what the fuck

[pulsar radish]

But like they should have one for recon "the longer you fire the more damage you do"

[forest scaffold]

I think its 1 second

But when I'm looking at 120 enemies on screen

[pulsar radish]

Man must hate marksman focus

[forest scaffold]

I don't really want to pace my fire at 1 second a shot

[terse idol]

Well

Its just for breakpoint mileage

[terse idol]

We do

Its called

[forest scaffold]

I mean if I'm gonna do that

[terse idol]

Dumdum

And infernus

[forest scaffold]

I'm just gunna use Exe Stance

and have that breakpoint always available lmao

[pulsar radish]

Tbf infernus is a trap blessing.

[terse idol]

The opening salvo blessing is speficially so you don't need to use exe as an opener

[terse idol]

Huh?!

It's like one of the best blessings on recon for high level havoc

(And imo in general)

[pulsar radish]

Let me be clear here.

It's good. But it's a trap.

[forest scaffold]

since fatshark gave us shooters back as an enemy, it shouldn't be hard to have near enough 100% uptime on exe stance

[pulsar radish]

Recon Las is great

[terse idol]

Its simply an option if you'd rather run exe

I mean

Voc

[forest scaffold]

the real trick is managing toughness to keep killing them

[terse idol]

Voc and tactical awareness

[terse idol]

Uh

Take ghost

Take 0 damage

[pulsar radish]

But like if your running recon Las I'm sure you won't be shooting Armoured units.

[terse idol]

If your build is using an ilas

To shoot shooters

Run ghost

[pulsar radish]

Ghost is pog.

[forest scaffold]

mg12 my beloved

[terse idol]

It saves you points away from MF

[forest scaffold]

I know the uh

[pulsar radish]

Stripped down is actually not bad either.

[forest scaffold]

pewpew mark is like

statistically better in several margins

[pulsar radish]

The one that makes you immune when running above x stamina

[forest scaffold]

but I'd rather not use an autoclicker lmao

[terse idol]

But again opening salvo is an option if you'd rather run voc than exe

[pulsar radish]

Voc is probably the best blitz vet has

[terse idol]

Yes the fastest firing ilas is pain

[forest scaffold]

yeah but if I'm using voc I'm usually using a plasma gun

cause la-z-boy

or volvo

neither of which get opening salvo lmao

[pulsar radish]

I love plasma guns

But I always find myself going back to the damn relover

Xd

I dunno why

[terse idol]

I mean Volvo has hand cannon surg

[forest scaffold]

I dunno. Opening Salvo is just one of those weird blessings where you have to make objectively worse weapon choices with a talent combination to get use out of it

[terse idol]

And always prepared which imo is mandatoey

[forest scaffold]

You use an iLas and VoC and I'm calling you a troll

full stop

[terse idol]

What no

This is why I even said you take it if you're gonna take opening salvo

[forest scaffold]

VoC and get stuck in with your melee vets

please for the love of god

[terse idol]

So you can meet the BP to 1 shot scab gunners

[pulsar radish]

Shovel is king

[terse idol]

Without exe

[terse idol]

I mean

[pulsar radish]

Smacks hordes

Does good against armour

[terse idol]

Shoot gunners in coherency with your team

Take ghost

Take 0 damage from gunners

[forest scaffold]

I only say this because I am currently balls deep in 95 traitor guardsmen as ogryn and would appreciate the yellow toughness

[terse idol]

Spam voc

[pulsar radish]

Ima drop a smoke

....

Nobody ever would use those

Right?

[forest scaffold]

do smoke grenades still break elite gunners

where they just stand still shooting at one spot

nooooooooooooonstooooooooooop

[pulsar radish]

Dunno

Last use I had I got sniped inside tye smoke

[faint beacon]

They advance towards the smoke or kite around it whilst spraying where they generally last saw you

[terse idol]

that shouldn't happen

[faint beacon]

Smokes are still good just don’t toss it at your feet when they’re actively laying into you

[faint beacon]

That’s probably a bug

Or it went away

[pulsar radish]

Probably a bug

I've had it work normally before

I think that was the "I'd rather use frags or kraks " moment was for me

[winter grove]

They got thermals on

[pulsar radish]

Probably actually

So for those of you who use the recon las in..havoc

Which model and blessing do you run

[terse idol]

not anymore

Or well

Our smoke is IR blocking

[dusky kernel]

Question. What's better Autoguns or Recon Lasguns?

[orchid hemlock]

Bolt

[tame lodge]

They made it so they stop shooting if you're inside the smoke

So get inside the smoke

[orchid hemlock]

🌲

[tame lodge]

Back then they would still shoot because they'd lose track of you so the "shoot to suppress" mechanic would kick in

Or something along those lines

[pulsar radish]

I feel recon is due to ammo eco

[orchid hemlock]

Wrong, econ is a myth

[dusky kernel]

I'm cooking a possible Cadian Shock Troop build next, cause I am on a roll.

[tame lodge]

Infantry Autoguns are finesse machines

So IAGS> recon

[orchid hemlock]

Econ this econ that

Why don't yall econ DEEZ NUTTS

[faint beacon]

Finesse or inf ammo

[pulsar radish]

Inf ammo is only really on the hellbore or base lasgun

Recon eats ammo from my experience lol

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-16188454057804619228

[faint beacon]

Headhunter Shocktrooper Surv Aura

[pulsar radish]

But it looks pretty

[dusky kernel]

HEavy sword or Power Sword?

[faint beacon]

Extremely high ammo recon to a point you basically have infinite ammo

[tame lodge]

Power>>>>

[orchid hemlock]

Rashad

[pulsar radish]

We talking the one that's got like 160 in the mag?

[tame lodge]

Heavy Sword is pretty good at hordes and small elites but can't carapace nor boss

[pulsar radish]

Shovel

The special action is decent at armour

[dusky kernel]

I Already made a Kriegsman too late for that shit LMAO

[pulsar radish]

And the base swings are good for everything else lol

I find it so hard to drop the shovel

Only weapon I've liked as much as it is the stun stick

[tame lodge]

I just realized this is Helbore

Common helbore w

[orchid hemlock]

Hellbore this Hellbore that

[tame lodge]

Finesse AND infinite ammo

I'm going to Bayo you

[tall torrent]

Surgical + hotshot

[orchid hemlock]

Oh no path is here.... RUN

🏃

[tame lodge]

(in BF1)

[hollow rose]

anyone else meet a lot of people with 25k+ kills frame?

[orchid hemlock]

That's me

I also have the 1 mil title

[hollow rose]

like half a year ago i met like one dude per month and he solo carried entire game

[tall torrent]

It depends on recoil’s reset time

[hollow rose]

Now i see those guys like every third game and lately i see them die to basic hordes lmao

[tall torrent]

On krourk heavy stubber it resets quite often

Achlys and gorgonum. Not so much

[orchid hemlock]

If you see someone with poxbreaker as their title, your bout to get humbled

[tall torrent]

Nah

Poxbreaker title just means played a lot

Could still play badly

[orchid hemlock]

Which is the most flex cosmetic? 🤔

[hollow rose]

I've seen a few and they were decent

[orchid hemlock]

Reject

[tall torrent]

None? TBH

[tame lodge]

Hard mode twins bell (pre Nerf)

[dusky kernel]

https://gyazo.com/0d5a9fbe3e7f5f0a542b10762dcc0762

Skills for Cadian Shock troop with Autogun and Power Sword?

[hollow rose]

i mean, as decent as expected from someone with like 20 milion hours put in

[tall torrent]

Don’t take skirmisher ever

[orchid hemlock]

Reject
Default border
No cloths

[hollow rose]

every time i see someone like this im 95% sure they just got mods

[tame lodge]

You forgot the most weirdo name ever

[narrow frost]

FENT-BABY

[orchid hemlock]

I already have one

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cd2f33a-0c28-4fe7-afef-3a716810ec24/meta-gamer-tryhard-xxxxfazeclanxxxx-society-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[hollow rose]

you certainly like your overused meme faces dont you

[orchid hemlock]

Yes

[hollow rose]

also

I ate all the drugs for the Emperor

no more drugs

ate them all

[orchid hemlock]

💉

[tame lodge]

Like LeeKey here

Leekey is probably one of the funniest players I met out there

[hollow rose]

I still remember playing my Ogryn named Gug

and meeting another Ogryn named "Gug, son of Gug"

it was an experience

[tall torrent]

The only 2 titles that mean smth (not a lot of smth either) are true survivor and poxbreaker

True survivor = had 1 clean run in havoc 35+

Poxbreaker = played a lot

[hollow rose]

i met so many True Survivors that sucked ass

[narrow frost]

easy TS cheese

[orchid hemlock]

Easy Purge Psyker spam for the second title 🤔

[hollow rose]

what's the cheese

[tall torrent]

Still gotta play a lot of games for that

[orchid hemlock]

No

[hollow rose]

yes

[tall torrent]

Dying

Unless they patched that

[hollow rose]

wasnt that the Zealot penance

[orchid hemlock]

I'm not telling the secret to a cringebin hotel fan 🚶🏻‍♂️

[hollow rose]

Bro outed himself for no taste

[tall torrent]

This is the most based thing u said this year

[faint beacon]

Unironically why I’m running Poxbreaker more now cause it means you dumped stupid amounts of time into the game

[orchid hemlock]

I'd rather have no taste buds than taste shit ngl

[orchid hemlock]

I try to be more cringe 😔

[hollow rose]

"Nice argument, but unfortunately i already depicted myself as a chadgryn"

[faint beacon]

Starting 2025 strong

[orchid hemlock]

Yes

[hollow rose]

truly a gamer moment

[faint beacon]

Now you have to shit on furries to 1-Up it

[orchid hemlock]

Nah they already have been demonized into oblivion

[faint beacon]

Needs to be more 🚬

[orchid hemlock]

I don't think they deserve it either

[tall torrent]

Is this what masochism looks like

[orchid hemlock]

I feel bad for them ngl

[hollow rose]

Bro hates on cringebin but respects furries

[faint beacon]

I like being hypocritical it’s extremely funny

[hollow rose]

only on darktide discord

[orchid hemlock]

Yes

[dusky kernel]

Isn't shitting on furries in this time and age like, not even worth it anymore with how mainstream it's become?

[uncut pebble]

This is based behavior.

[uncut pebble]

Considering you can't set foot in any community without tripping over a furry, no, it is not worth hating them.

[orchid hemlock]

I mean it still is very mainstream

But people give them shit because what they do is unconventional, and it's very easy to dehumanized people who don't show their faces

[dusky kernel]

Bruh I'm a furry and even I shit on them the fuck you mean. WHEEZE

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

[orchid hemlock]

This doesn't even make sense, half of the characters in the show are furries 💀

[faint beacon]

You get called the most heinous things and you just get used to it 🚬

[uncut pebble]

I just keep them further than an arms length away until they prove they can be let closer without nasty shit popping up in my dms.

[dusky kernel]

No that's how you should do it. Even I do the same.

[uncut pebble]

Exactly my point, glad we're in agreement.

[orchid hemlock]

I'm talking about how people on the internet makes jokes of killing or butchering furries

Or compare them to Nazis

[dusky kernel]

Like, every time I even find a new furry content creator I have to do a small "background" check and see if they have some kind of AWFUL controversy going on to them regarding the usual egregious offenses within the community. I am so tired of it. 🚬

[orchid hemlock]

Streamers 🚬

[dusky kernel]

Bruh there IS a Nazi fur community.

[orchid hemlock]

That's not what I'm saying but OK 💀

[dusky kernel]

These are furries dressing in German uniforms from the time and armbands.

[hollow rose]

how do you know

did you watch it?

that would be cringe

[terse idol]

In hazbin?

Hmm

Half..

[orchid hemlock]

Not hazbin but I did watch portions of Helluva

[terse idol]

[dusky kernel]

Vivzie IS a furry artist though.

[terse idol]

relationship ended with hazbin, digital circus is my new best friend

😌

[orchid hemlock]

Vivze is an adult who never grew out of their Invader Zim emo phase in the early 2000s, change my mind

[faint beacon]

LMAO

[dusky kernel]

Nah if you like the shoe for what it is go for it, she's one of those few who DON'T have some kind of gross dark past to them

[hollow rose]

bro commited cringe

[dusky kernel]

Nah you right, Johnen Vazques is obviously a huge inspiration.

A lot of their shit hits Johnny the Homicidal Maniac vibes.

[terse idol]

shoe?

I just prefer goosewerk's work is all

oh if you like the

show

I mean I watched some helluva boss

I doo just enjoy digital circus more lmao

[dusky kernel]

Yes I meant show l mao.

[orchid hemlock]

I wish she learnt how to draw more than:

For men: Twinks

For women: Goth girls

Like cmon give me some variety

[dusky kernel]

Some artists are just like that, it's just part of their 'style' so to speak.

[orchid hemlock]

Well that is more than 99% of Mangaka to be fair 🤔

[faint beacon]

Style being strictly doing femboys or twinks apparently

[orchid hemlock]

underage high schooler

😬

[faint beacon]

I pity people who struggle experimenting

[orchid hemlock]

Yeah people need to get out of their comfort zone, which I mean their porn category preferences

[dusky kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-matty-matheson-the-queens-falafel-wheezing-haha-gif-26361740

[calm shard]

it is a bit weird

[hollow rose]

luv me goth girls simple as

[orchid hemlock]

There is also the writing

But tbh, the writing isn't that much worse than 99% of other dark comedies

[faint beacon]

WHAT

[tall torrent]

I want to write a novel

[dusky kernel]

Brave of you to delve into the big E site.

[tall torrent]

But also I need to finish this steam guide

[calm shard]

I don't really get why people rag on the writing of vivzies shows

[hollow ibex]

Oh sorry is this zealot chat?

[terse idol]

Okay I'ma be real for a moment

[calm shard]

I posted an image so it can't be

[terse idol]

I do prefer

helluva boss

[hollow ibex]

I must be in the wrong channel

[terse idol]

Hasbin was a cool

Pilot

But somehow helluva boss had alot more traction

[tame lodge]

Real

[tame lodge]

But also damn

[calm shard]

helluva boss had more traction because furries it was more appealing to investors due to its lower budget

[hollow ibex]

Didn't you write the one in the pins?

[dusky kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[tall torrent]

The difference is that the pinned one isn’t fiction

[hollow ibex]

It's a nonfiction addon in a fictional setting

[unreal nova]

Is game stuff so...

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[tame lodge]

Shackled by the 40k setting

[orchid hemlock]

Imagine if 40k turned into a dark comedy

💀

[calm shard]

the orks

[tall torrent]

It already kinda is?

[orchid hemlock]

No like Family Guy level

[tall torrent]

Darktide already kinda is?

Did u not get barreled enough times

[orchid hemlock]

"Louis, is that the Horus Heresy???"

[tall torrent]

https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/10796779772551265/8B9BD1B0308EE3A9E314162BBC6C0898E7764439/

[tame lodge]

Petah, the Horus is here

[orchid hemlock]

[faint beacon]

“It’s like that one time I witnessed the Horus heresy!”

[quartz nymph]

Whenever you post a gameplay clip, for the limited time I've been here, it seems be Rashad and revolver. Is that your go to loadout?

[hollow ibex]

Path is a meta slave

[orchid hemlock]

I mean, outside of Havoc

Those are probably the 2 best Vet weapons in the game 😔

[orchid hemlock]

Someone has to do it

[tame lodge]

Tzeentchian trolling

[hollow rose]

i will remain attracted to goth girls and there is nothing your hateful nature can do about it

[quartz nymph]

I mean, both weapons are really cool in my book. So hell ya

[tame lodge]

The Goths?

Don't tell me they finally invaded

[orchid hemlock]

Yeah that's kinda the problem 💀

All of my old goth/punk friends absolutely hated it when guys fetishized them

Wait is this Goth Chaserism? 🤔

[tall torrent]

Me? No
I just don’t record very often cuz it heats up my GPU and I’m on laptop

Half my clips are recoil clips for steam guide

[orchid hemlock]

Path's laptop on load:

[hollow rose]

i never did anything cringe to any of them so i remain unembarassed by that statement

[tall torrent]

It’s been better after I got the cooling pad but I haven’t been recording because I was benchmarking my game 5 weeks straight trying to fix the stutters

[hollow rose]

I also see the veteran's dead

[tall torrent]

I’m also not that good at the game and most of my clips would look pretty meh

[quartz nymph]

Oh okay. I was just curious!

[hollow ibex]

Bruh if you're not good at the game what does that make me 😭

[orchid hemlock]

I'm telling u, something is wrong with the motherboard. We need to help build you a new PC 😔

Let's start a gofundme

[hollow ibex]

At least you still have your reflexes 😭

[tall torrent]

I think it was texture streaming

I followed a guide on FS forums by Vizra and it seemed to have gotten better

[hollow rose]

shrek

[orchid hemlock]

Nah Path just had a couple mistakes and he beats himself up for it

This guy out damages the entire team 3 times in the first 5 minutes

[tame void]

Bro got sent to cadia 💀💀

[dusky kernel]

What's the Rashad?

[tall torrent]

Combat axe III

[tame void]

The weird looking tact axe

Wait no comabt axe

That looks like a flag

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1306382291781681252/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.11.13_-_12.57.55.43.mp4?ex=673676d1&is=67352551&hm=68c82723d28b4d4353ad9c06cad9774e6613cbc72b43d320e30c5e58fa8ffc68&

[orchid hemlock]

We need to do a gofundme to get path a new computer

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U can beat up ragers with it

[tame void]

I can beat up ragers with any weapon, the issue not getting beat back

[orchid hemlock]

U can stun ragers with the push attack

[cloud thunder]

idk i'm loving the powersword

ngl

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1324605503191388220/Rager_electric_boogaloo.mp4?ex=6778c281&is=67777101&hm=30ab0a12a294228bf8b3defea911311727c208b942d51984fd325d6a2854c977&

This could help

[tame void]

Its fun aint it

[cloud thunder]

it rekts

if you're good at positioning to power it up

[hollow rose]

tldr they angry and swing at you

[loud belfry]

i always get hit by ragers from like 6 feet away from their blades, it's their main method of hurting me

[hollow rose]

that and maulers hitting overhead from like 5 meters

legit only times i die to maulers or crushers is when there's a random single dude behind me and blocks my dodge or when it hits me with an anime shockwave from the distance or something idk

[winter sluice]

i have been using smoke nades

they are actually really fun

atleast in pubs where stakes are low

[hollow rose]

really good in high havocs when your psykers has too much ego to run dome

[winter sluice]

i was doing the penance with em and there was alot of actual value

[hollow rose]

jesus the grenade penances

[winter sluice]

yeag

still gotta do the krak one

[hollow rose]

i did them all on all classes

it was not fun

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Throw at bruiser hordes

[winter sluice]

true

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The only genuinely abysmal one is zealot’s loner

Everything else was ok

[winter sluice]

i hated that one

[hollow rose]

tbh i had a lot of fun backstabbing as zealot

[winter sluice]

i always felt like a dick leaving my team

[hollow rose]

the one i had the most issues with were 100% acc Vet and charging through 60 guys as ogryn

well, i also still need to do Malleus Monstronum and the low hp speed run as zealot, but im a solo player so its not possible

[winter sluice]

i need to get a squad together for that zealot low health one

it doesent seem too hard

i remember during havok 24 or something i accidentally got vet on overwatch

[tall torrent]

Those are ez

I can help u when I’m home

[hollow rose]

idk if they are easy or not, i just dont do premades because my friends dont trust Fatshark after early Vermintide 2 bugfest and i dont wanna talk with random people

[winter sluice]

it would be cool if there was like, you know how abilites have side trees to buff them, like charges 2nd charge, imagine if some of the nades had a similar option to invest in them to upgrade them or change em abit

[hollow rose]

i mean, they KINDA do?

[winter sluice]

like if smoke had a poison effect you could apply to it, so all enemies inside have a chance to stagger and have the brittle effect or something like that

or you can have drugs in the smoke so you get hyped on it

[hollow rose]

no drugs

i ate them all

[winter sluice]

rip

[hollow rose]

see

drug status eaten

[winter sluice]

im waiting for the savlar sets to come back

the traitor gunner has such a dope gun

i want a laser LMG

like more damaging recon but with less accuracy

[north prawn]

Hey, i just checked the pinned messages and I am new here so forgive me, but does anyone have a good melee vet passive tree to share? I'd like to progress into higher difficulties with it 🙂

[inland orchid]

Did you check the melee build link in pins yet?

[north prawn]

did i miss it in there?

the melee weapons guide i opened doesnt have a passive tree

unless i missed another guide pinned there

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They’re really easy and don’t have major glitches afaik

[north prawn]

ooooo thanks

i thought that was like a hammer specific guide sorry

appreciate it, sorry to miss the obvious!

[formal ice]

Guys I got the greatest weapon idea ever

Baseball bat

Literally shock maul but with no shock

[vernal harbor]

imma just say it man i think voc is fucking boring and im tired of running it

my mic is going FULL OPEN and im having my gf vaccum my room mid match if anyone says shit about it you can count on that

[inland orchid]

That’s ok, stealth and shooty stance are both a little more engaging than “pocket stagger” the ability

[vernal harbor]

thats the problem right there you said the word "pocket"

i wish to live beyond this pocket

i am not a pockey boy!!!1111!!

[inland orchid]

How else are u gonna describe something usually used in panic

[vernal harbor]

i say everyone just get better at the game and we wont need shit in our pockets

https://tenor.com/view/hazbik-mortal-combat-gif-3795006771601208806

[inland orchid]

We should have our pockets removed, see who survives

[terse idol]

thank yoou

[vernal harbor]

fun fact in the us marine corps you aint allowed to put your hands in your pockets

very serious offense

[quartz nymph]

Infiltration is a lot of fun. I liked it a lot

Do you cats run it with the 2x ability charges?

[uncut pebble]

That's for parade dress in general.

Put your hands in your pockets and your C.O. will cut them off.

[jaunty tinsel]

i keep having hte problem in havoc where my team mates will run out into the shooties and get gunned down like dogs in the street

is there anything i can do about this?

ive even tried exec a few times to try and see if i can pick them off fast enough

VoC just cant stagger them bcuz of the range

[hollow ibex]

this is why bubble is meta

even monkeys know to fall back to the bubble

[jaunty tinsel]

it works until the bubble is on CD

and then they are all hardwired to reenact Last Samurai

i feel so powerless

its like the complete opposite of the vet stereotype

[hollow ibex]

yeah pubbies do be like that

[uncut pebble]

Attempt gun psyker.

I can walk into a group of elite shooters with my recon and not take damage while lighting them all on fire.

[hollow ibex]

it sounded like the problem was his teammates, not him

iiwii with teammates tbh

[winter sluice]

i want a mace, maces are dope

[uncut pebble]

Enemies can't shoot back if they're dead.

[hollow ibex]

well sounds like he's already tried that approach too

[uncut pebble]

Exe stance can't keep up with gun psyker.

Stacking up dd and gaze stacks makes your headshot bonus worth more than exe stance is.

[hollow ibex]

nah it def can