Racist femboy stereotype strikes again
#veteran-class
tropic halo
quartz nymph
Yikes
faint beacon
Yeah no he’s extremely deplorable
That and he got carried through H40
If you want the ego cherry on top 🚬
visual remnant
Avoid at all costs
Psychotic being fueled w hate that enjoys spreadin it around
Threatened strawhat and shat on a bunch of mods cuz of a perceived slight
And what they said, his takes are usually wrong or at the least ill informed
tawny timber
why do people always defend him too like "he's gotten a lot better"
quartz nymph
"He only says some slurs now"
orchid hemlock
why do people always defend him too like "he's gotten a lot better"
cus he was soft spoken in a few newer videos 🤡
tawny timber
i cannot stand him
orchid hemlock
the good news is that Tanner burnt his bridge with the main community a long time ago
his influence only really exists purely in his "class breakdown" videos
but that is an issue with the YT community as a whole, not specifically Tanner
sacred igloo
his influence only really exists purely in his "class breakdown" videos
Those were the only ones I saw from him tbf outside of looking through his channel
Only other Darktide YT that sketches me out is Telopots but idk enough about him to say anything
tall torrent
depends on ur weapon
usually automatic weapons benefit more from rending
silk plinth
faint beacon
Only other Darktide YT that sketches me out is Telopots but idk enough about him...
I mean that’s fair, though he’s dropped DT so far from what I’ve seen so yeah
sacred igloo
Ye I figured, his uploads were getting sparse and I stopped watching him anyways cause he'd say some not great stuff occasionally
Only one I watch now is Mr unc my beloved
Funny guy
hollow ibex
I mean that’s fair, though he’s dropped DT so far from what I’ve seen so yeah
Oh wait, he dropped DT entirely?
rocky elbow
looking for power sword or maccabian duelling sword possibly
hollow ibex
Rip
faint beacon
Oh wait, he dropped DT entirely?
Trying to at least is what I’m hearing
Which I mean fair
Game changes
People lose interest
Hell I’m getting into VT2 now but I still like DT
rocky elbow
Anyone pls?
faint beacon
Does anyone have a havoc 40 build for me?
I was going to ask if you’ve adjusted to Auric Mael yet
rocky elbow
i have not yet, been trying diffirent builds. Tried a grenade veteran build but the combat knife is too high skill for me
faint beacon
I’d say get used to how Auric Damn feels first and then attempt Havoc 25+
Because that’s when Havoc actually becomes well
Havoc
rocky elbow
thanks everyone!
karmic moat
Hehe Hellbore go Stab
hollow ibex
Hehe Hellbore go Stab
mk iv bayonet: am i a joke to you?
everyone: yes, you're a fucking joke
hollow ibex
How do we feel about armourbane? Passable or bad?
good on the faster firing ones
tall torrent
How do we feel about armourbane? Passable or bad?
usually not worth
hollow ibex
but crushers
gilded wraith
Any non-intuitive talents that are good with a shredder grenade focused build?
Thank you!
hollow ibex
well o4b is good too
heavy rover
Any non-intuitive talents that are good with a shredder grenade focused build?
Lethal Proximity from the bolt pistol
gilded wraith
Lethal Proximity from the bolt pistol
I'm trying Lethal Proximity, Uncanny, and All or Nothing
last pebble
hey guys, with plasma gun, should i be using charged shots or uncharged ones primarily?
tall torrent
hey guys, with plasma gun, should i be using charged shots or uncharged ones pri...
hipfire (uncharged)
void gyro
shovel swap speed tech
tawny badger
void gyro
you get a small burst of speed when taking out the shovel
loud belfry
his speed is going up
void gyro
it's obviously stamina inefficent compared to sliding but i play focus target and have stamina comin out of my gun
Only works on the foldables
would be insane if it was conserved into a slide, you hit 8 for a few frames but it just doesnt seem to keep like normal speed into a slide
tough tiger
Obscure movement tech
mellow adder
For veterans what are the best stats for Curios?
sacred igloo
For veterans what are the best stats for Curios?
IMO every class should take two 16% toughness curios, 3rd one is flexible
Except maybe ogryn
umbral scaffold
I think toughness , wounds? , and stamina
sacred igloo
Perks I always like ability regen and 5% toughness, 3rd perk again is flexible
umbral scaffold
That's what I run anyway
hollow ibex
For veterans what are the best stats for Curios?
2x hp, 1x toughness for outside of havoc
you could do 2x toughness and 1x hp, but it hurts your perk options
sacred igloo
you could do 2x toughness and 1x hp, but it hurts your perk options
Wdym by this?
I figured toughness was always better especially with gold toughness existing
and toughness DR
hearty panther
there's a fairly entrenched mindset wherein you build yourself to have 200hp + sniper resist so you can survive 'two sniper shots', which honestly, I don't care even slightly for the idea when gold toughness is a thing you can splash out very easily and the idea of taking two sniper shots in any decent time frame where that HP/Resist saves me is like ... idk, i sincerely cant recall the last time that has ever happened to me
im totally presuming this is what sirosky means with 'hurts your perk options'
hollow ibex
yes
hollow ibex
Wdym by this?
there are enemies that bypass toughness
hearty panther
in reality you can frankly just do whatever the fuck you want, except for wounds which is universally agreed upon to be shit and a waste
hollow ibex
you won't always have gold toughness to save you
unless you're playing with a coordinated team in havoc or something
realistically in pubs, a dumbass will push a burster into you
umbral scaffold
Am I wasting a stat by running wounds 🤔
hollow ibex
or you will catch a stray from a sniper that was aiming at your teammate
and you won't have gold toughness up
hearty panther
Am I wasting a stat by running wounds 🤔
objectively, yes
hollow ibex
a wound is fine if you're just learning imo
sacred igloo
Am I wasting a stat by running wounds 🤔
If you're good enough to not go down or really get hit yes
umbral scaffold
Should I swap it for health
hollow ibex
get 200+ hp, rest into toughness
hearty panther
some people feel comfortable and more capable if they have that safety net and thats a psychological thing that i wont deny is real but is also a mental block you are persistently playing into and relying on that is detrimental
umbral scaffold
Ok glad I learnt now instead of getting comfortable w it cause yeah I don't really go down tbh
hollow ibex
and wounds also cause you to go down more often anyway, since you could've taken health or toughness instead
also makes green stimms less effective
so yeah pretty bad overall
umbral scaffold
All it does it allow you to go down more times hey?
hollow ibex
yeah
sacred igloo
Am I wasting a stat by running wounds 🤔
It is good for martyrdom zealot tho obv
umbral scaffold
Does nothing for hp
sacred igloo
Martyrdom gaming
hearty panther
but seriously, do whatever you want
you're gonna find a very wide breadth of opinions as to what curios you should have and what perks should be attached to them and all of them are some shade of valid (for the most part)
im strictly in camp "damage res perks are dumb as shit"
others say you should have one or two of sniper or gunner
others say you should triplicate both
and you'll find all are quite staunch on their opinion
because guess what, take whatever you want, it'll work for you if it works for you
cloud thunder
What’s better overall though? Stamina regen or sprint efficiency
hearty panther
sprint
cloud thunder
Reason?
hearty panther
hmmm
cloud thunder
Doesn’t stamina regen help you block more if needed?
hollow ibex
block eff? 💀
hearty panther
sometimes stam regen can be a big help, but regen itself is usually not what you're lacking
its just getting more use out of the stamina you do regenerate, because the delay is what is really killing you
and vet at baseline has atrocious delay
hollow ibex
sprint eff is very good
cloud thunder
So you basically run double sprint eff with one corruption resist as third perks?
hearty panther
triple sprint for me
and i only run corruption at high havoc, which is also tripled
cloud thunder
Is it worth mentioning I use powersword
hollow ibex
triple sprint for me
same
hearty panther
i wouldnt say trolling
this shit takes a long time to learn lol
there are some hilarious takes in the thread my post originates from
like "36% stamina regen means 36% more blocking and sprinting"
which is very funny and completely wrong and a very poor deduction of its impact
but thats how people view these things
void dragon
Some has some build recommendations to make some variety for the vet? Both perks and weapons pairings.
hearty panther
i also ran stamina regen for i want to say about six months, labouring under the impression that it also reduced the delay (it does not and never did)
sacred igloo
i also ran stamina regen for i want to say about six months, labouring under the...
I've been running triple stam regen 💀
hearty panther
at which point i swapped it out for sprint and never looked back
hearty panther
i have always ran block efficiency because Vermintide-pilled
hearty panther
so strictly in terms of sprint vs stam
you can either earn 1.36 stam per second when you are regenerating
or you can make the stamina you do have last ~50% longer while sprinting
cloud thunder
I have ability CD and toughness on all 3 then stamina regenx2 and corruption resist
calm shard
i also ran stamina regen for i want to say about six months, labouring under the...
I know it doesn't do this and still use it because I use knife too damn much and my stamina keeps evaporating from push attack spam
cloud thunder
So swap the stamina regen with sprint eff?
sacred igloo
I know it doesn't do this and still use it because I use knife too damn much and...
fair and valid
hearty panther
yea id swap it like that
hollow ibex
Some has some build recommendations to make some variety for the vet? Both perks...
exec stance graia brauto
hearty panther
yea
cloud thunder
So knowing this, you would swap to sprint still?
cloud thunder
I have 2 atm
vernal trench
@latent parcel
cloud thunder
Since I just made the vet yesterday
sacred igloo
I have 2 atm
+3 is max so ye
hearty panther
the sprint wont directly impact your push attack costs, but you are still using less of it which frees it up to be used more for pushes
sacred igloo
2 is fine if its all you have tho
hollow ibex
i don't bother with a stam curio on my vet with PS
sacred igloo
umbral scaffold
Running 2 max health and 1 toughness on vet
void dragon
exec stance graia brauto
Exec works well with braced auto weapons?
umbral scaffold
With regen for Stam and toughness and sprint efficiency plus extra toughness
hollow ibex
Exec works well with braced auto weapons?
oooooh yes
cloud thunder
No ability?
hollow ibex
i don't run cdr on any of my curios
void dragon
oooooh yes
Will give it a try, I don't think I have used much Bauto so far
hollow ibex
ES works well on the braced autos because of the spread decrease
yeh
graia's the best of the brautos
solar valve
I dont mind em all
hollow ibex
graia's surprisingly ammo efficient
hearty panther
plus it leads itself to running right at the bad dudes, and xstance works in melee now too
sacred igloo
i don't run cdr on any of my curios
You definitely should, more ability uptime is always great, especially VoC
hollow ibex
yeah i really like exec stance now
hearty panther
ES is very strong
hollow ibex
You definitely should, more ability uptime is always great, especially VoC
tac awareness is so powerful that i never feel the need to shave like 4 seconds off the cooldown
hearty panther
VoC is just fucking stupid, same as it always was.
faint beacon
I unironically am under the impression that Vet is one of the few classes that genuinely can get away with a 21 HP 17 Tough and 3 Stam combo just cause of the talents giving you so much toughness or HP to work with
void dragon
yeah i really like exec stance now
Roger, any other consideration to pair it in perks?
solar valve
I never see ES unfortunately
hollow ibex
Roger, any other consideration to pair it in perks?
flakiac + deathspitter/firefrenzy
hollow ibex
Graia used to be columnus mk v correct?
uhhh idr
the fast firing one
the space ppsh
solar valve
flakiac is my favorite band
void dragon
flakiac + deathspitter/firefrenzy
Was talking of the perk tree, but this is useful, ty
cloud thunder
What does block efficiency do? Just reduce amount of stamina to block and does this include push attack?
hearty panther
only block effects
faint beacon
I see Graia 90% of the time im thinking of the Graia 7 Vigilant
cause I just love those guns
hearty panther
so blocking, dclaw parry, the autoblock while reviving, and the autoblock from relic blade activations (zealot)
i dont recommend it, and yes im aware that i use three of them
tall torrent
So swap the stamina regen with sprint eff?
sprint efficiency is better than stamina regen on veteran
unless u specifically take the stamina regen delay reduction talent nodes
hollow ibex
Was talking of the perk tree, but this is useful, ty
it's a bit of a meme build, but prob i've been top fragging with it so maybe not that much of a meme build 
if you don't go onslaught, you have more points to work with, but i try to use the gun as much as possible
solar valve
tbh Im not a big stockpile enjoyer so Id rather save the 2 points there
I dont spam shredders enough for it
gimme that desperado and stam regen delay node tho
uncut pebble
Graia used to be columnus mk v correct?
Old columnus is now vraks.
void dragon
if you don't go onslaught, you have more points to work with, but i try to use t...
No keystone do feels meme, but will see what can be done, ty
hollow ibex
No keystone do feels meme, but will see what can be done, ty
yeah you can take FT if you drop onslaught
but i don't think keystone matters much for braced
MF is a bad meme with it
FT is nice, but really not that big of a deal
and brauto doesn't have particularly fast draw for WS
you also need to brace, for max dps, which makes WS even less appealing to play with graia
hollow ibex
tbh Im not a big stockpile enjoyer so Id rather save the 2 points there
i love both demo perks, frags are amazing
dusky kernel
This probably gets asked a lot, but I looked through the pins. Is there a current Commissar build using the Laspistol instead of the plasma around perchance?
hollow ibex
what does a comissar build mean 🤔
solar valve
means shout/middle keystone
jaunty tinsel
what guns do you like for high level havocs?
especially for killing gunners and such
dusky kernel
I've yet to do any really. I am still sorta new but my vet is 30, but so far I love the saber so I know at least what melee I like.
jaunty tinsel
this was a Royal You question to the channel btw
versed merlin
@exotic condor pinging you here cause zealot restriction sucks. so basically the numbers on the left are the current weapon stats. when it gets fully empowered, the stats will look like the ones at the right. consecration has no effect on those stats whatsoever, if it does, its a bug
exotic condor
<@139571819744198656> pinging you here cause zealot restriction sucks. so basica...
it has to be a bug because mine went from 60% max when it was white to 80% max now that its gold
it's fine Ill just keep buying weapons
versed merlin
yeah thats the strat
calm shard
Wish me luck 🙏
curses and badness upon you
umbral scaffold
Well no one joined so ots me and 3 bots 😆
hollow ibex
i didn't even realize non-auric maelstroms are a thing
umbral scaffold
Ah we got so close no ammo was spawning tho
loud belfry
i think that was what the maelstrom modifier was so yeah
umbral scaffold
Ah , wasn't much fun running a bolt pistol in that ngl
Got to about a quarter way in and ran out of ammo
hollow ibex
yeah make sure you carefully look at the modifier before going in lol
umbral scaffold
I swear it just had the brute re inforcements on
loud belfry
skill issue 
hollow rose
https://tenor.com/view/%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%80-jonkler-jonkler-gif-...
mfw i try to push burster but my teammates shoot it right next to me and trashtalk me for trying to "melee it"
also Wolfer stole all my speed stimms
Rannick will hear about this
hollow rose
https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/10796779772551265/8B9BD1B0308EE3A9E3...
"woah" indeed
raw needle
I swear it just had the brute re inforcements on
it could, there's 7 brute modifiers and I'd guess the regular one is abhuman_01
considering it also got added to regular board
sleek garden
mfw i try to push burster but my teammates shoot it right next to me and trashta...
I was shooting a poxburster at the front of a burster train and my zealot teammate sprinted past me to push it as it exploded
Same game
wanton dawn
https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/10796779772551265/8B9BD1B0308EE3A9E3...
My favorite is spawning next to a ledge. Simple, deadly, give you a little bit of hope
Just enough agency to assume it is your fault
warm walrus
popping in here rq cuz images aren't allowed in zealot chat
how am i looking so far
more specifically did i make a mistake investing in the brauto and crusher here
warm walrus
yeah good idea tbh
raw needle
so you don't waste mats
hollow ibex
popping in here rq cuz images aren't allowed in zealot chat
make sure you grab double charge on fury asap
really makes the class
warm walrus
make sure you grab double charge on fury asap
yup yup, i try to play like im in hotline miami
i'm actually trying to cosplay jacket but
i dont think anything looks remotely like a letterman jacket this game
the hood works as a mask tho
uncut pebble
how am i looking so far
more specifically did i make a mistake investing in the ...
Do not invest in brauto, it falls off hard compared to infantry autoguns in basically every department.
dry cloak
brautos are fun
uncut pebble
Yeah but theyre terrible lmao.
uncut pebble
Even with abusing dance of death their spread is awful, and they only get 2 dodges compared to an infantry autogun's 5.
warm walrus
Do not invest in brauto, it falls off hard compared to infantry autoguns in basi...
Bolter?
uncut pebble
Bolter?
Frankly, I'm of the opinion that combat shotguns pair best with crusher, but considering you aren't max level and don't have mats yet, boltgun will work in a pinch. Bistol is also a good choice.
uncut pebble
Combat shotguns need fat investment and talent points.
warm walrus
Also crusher isn't set in stone I'm open to anything
uncut pebble
I prefer accatran, the fire one, as it suppresses from any distance and can 2shot a bulwark once you open him up.
warm walrus
Rog
My eye is on relic blade maybe
Ds is obvious but I wanna experiment with other weapons
frank basin
Ds is nice on vet, but stupidly on zealot
uncut pebble
Relic blade is quite good but you'll have to get used to low mobility. I suggest an infantry autogun to pair with it. Pick your poison on model.
I run the agri model and abuse dance of death to pick off shooter trash from safe distances.
warm walrus
Also bonus to me trying to play like hlm
Throwing knives = biker's throwable cleavers
So most high level zealots go... ds, relic blade, what else assuming like havoc?
calm shard
crusher, knife, thunder hammer, and combat axe are all good too
thunder hammer is a bit more niche for havoc but it's funny for erasing problem monstrosities
warm walrus
gotcha, crusher has my eye cuz it's as close to a baseball bat as im getting
warm walrus
crusher, knife, thunder hammer, and combat axe are all good too
whats my gameplan against crushers? heavy+charged up a stagger?
calm shard
well for Crushers just FOTF one shot them with thammer or crusher empowered attacks
Thammer can also just do it whenever with thrust
Knife is just a dueling sword but different
combat axe spams heavy attacks into their heads
warm walrus
oops yeah im using crusher myself
its running flak+maniacs as well as slaughterer and skullcrusher
i can chunk a crusher with a chastise and an empowered crusher heavy, but not one shot. fotf is up now tho
tough tiger
Relic blade is quite good but you'll have to get used to low mobility. I suggest...
Why pair a low mobility melee with a mid mobility gun? Just take a revolver/laspistol instead
The relic blade can kill anything at melee range, you'll only be pulling out the laspistol for the speed and also killing gunners/specials, which the laspistol excels at
winter grove
Bolter?
Bolter is nice
Always gonna be there to help you out
As long as you get around slow reloading and swap speed
right are we talking about vet or zealot
tough tiger
Zealot
winter grove
zealot is fun and I play it frequently
warm walrus
Plasma's hard to click with
winter grove
but I have zero idea how to build one
so basically every zealot build I got isn't even mine
warm walrus
nah nah im about to dust my lvl 30 off for the event and he's a vet
need to rebless his bolter n stuff
winter grove
oh yeah vet bolter fucks
bolter overall fucks
although i am more of a bistol enjoyer
tough tiger
Bolter is inefficient for crushers tho, you're better off with a revolver
warm walrus
ehhh that is true
winter grove
Bolter is inefficient for crushers tho, you're better off with a revolver
this is where melee comes in
tall torrent
suffering builds character
lavish tinsel
On overwatch hell rn
winter grove
suffering builds character
tough tiger
suffering builds character
So you're telling me that duelist is op because it is op?
tall torrent
So you're telling me that duelist is op because it is op?
duellist is op because it's 2 buffs
that both go into the crit-weakspot dmg calculation
winter grove
duelist is the one with extra weakspot dmg and refill dodge?
warm walrus
oh yeah vet bolter fucks
i main exe stance+usually kraks but might go frags+bolter
tough tiger
duelist is the one with extra weakspot dmg and refill dodge?
Extra weakspot and crit weakspot dmg on dodge
For zealot
warm walrus
inefficient but flattening crushers is very fun
calm shard
kraks are so bad bro
I have genuinely stopped using them entirely and haven't looked back since using shredders and smokes
tough tiger
Real
calm shard
why wait for that fuse time when I can just like
warm walrus
yeah ive already got bolter so like, frags time
calm shard
kill the crusher in melee
tough tiger
1 krak kills 2 things at most
calm shard
or spray them with a bolter
winter grove
kill the crusher in melee
because you would be running stuff like dclaw on havoc 40 5head
calm shard
oh true
tough tiger
Dont tempt ppl
calm shard
I do use heavy sword in havoc sometimes
tough tiger
Ive been itching to run dclaw in havoc
calm shard
But then I'm always using Bolter, Plasma, or Mk IV helbore with it
winter grove
i just run ds4 or rashad for havoc
calm shard
So I'd just shoot crushers/maulers
tough tiger
I do use heavy sword in havoc sometimes
This still works, but having to use multiple heavies to kill an elite really feels painful
I miss oneshotting anything with flak
tough tiger
lemme check. flak+maniac, cavalcade and pin fire?
Surgical if you like single shots
warm walrus
surgical's not bad yeah
winter grove
nah run ilasguns
warm walrus
ill admit i was tempted to go carapace and unyielding but that doesn't hit any breakpoints right
warm walrus
nah run ilasguns
infantry lasguns?
winter grove
yes
warm walrus
i wanna give kantrael 7 a whirl
winter grove
and also green one
warm walrus
yeah lasguns are fun to shoot so id be down to give 2b a shot
winter grove
it's also good
tough tiger
If u play monstrous maelstrom, use shattering impact and cavalcade
winter grove
ok hellbores are basically the worse lasgun picks I think?
tall torrent
tough tiger
ok hellbores are basically the worse lasgun picks I think?
Just different playstyle
calm shard
ok hellbores are basically the worse lasgun picks I think?
Helbores are weird lasgun picks. They have upsides over them, but losing out on ghost sucks
tough tiger
Also requires goof aim
calm shard
The main thing keeping Helbores down would be their abysmal draw and reload speed imo
warm walrus
alright fuck it im gonna try kantrael 2b
grand perch
Hm? Reload speed is pretty average on helbore
warm walrus
lets see
Thinking flak+maniac, ghost and... uh, forgot the other blessing
the melee'll have to be focused on anti heavy. brumomentum rashad axe?
shredder nades and survivalist aura
winter grove
lets see
Thinking flak+maniac, ghost and... uh, forgot the other blessing
the m...
headhunter
calm shard
rashad is super good into chaff you mean
tough tiger
Rashad is horde rapist
warm walrus
right
brain sleepy
i was thinking of the overheads
how's it fare against heavies like crushers?
assuming head hits
winter grove
how's it fare against heavies like crushers?
3 shots :3
tough tiger
You need trench fighter to make rashad work on vet however
warm walrus
Ah ok
winter grove
^
warm walrus
3 shots :3
flak+maniac, brumomentum aaaaaand... uh headtaker?
winter grove
rashad is special it needs extra care
winter grove
flak+maniac, brumomentum aaaaaand... uh headtaker?
maniac+unarmored
HT and Bromentum
This is what I use for havoc you can take and redact it if you wanna
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9de6b3ce-32ff-4491-9395-0a3e810c5dd3/havoc-build-lmaoooooooooo
winter grove
yea
warm walrus
figures
tall torrent
am i correct in thinking marksman's focus is not amazing
effect can be strong
but is awkward to play
winter grove
it's genuinely better to go keystoneless imho
warm walrus
yeah i had a hunch because moving losing stacks sucks
tidal niche
how do i do the focus target modifier. do i just do the middle mouse button on an enemy to spot them?
winter grove
how do i do the focus target modifier. do i just do the middle mouse button on a...
yea
tidal niche
thats op
calm shard
am i correct in thinking marksman's focus is not amazing
it's good on specific weapons that get value out of 3 or 6 stacks
tidal niche
im surprised more vets not using it in my games
calm shard
infantry lasgun and bolter are the ones that immediately come to mind
winter grove
im surprised more vets not using it in my games
They're probably running WS
grand perch
effect can be strong
but is awkward to play
Gets me some 1hs breakpoints on havoc 40. Its fun
tough tiger
This is what I use for havoc you can take and redact it if you wanna
https://dar...
Why not go grenade tinkerer for the mini nuke frags?
calm shard
IIb infantry lasgun can one shot headshot gunners with MF stacks
calm shard
Bolter doesn't need Puncture to one shot elites/specials with MF stacks
tall torrent
Gets me some 1hs breakpoints on havoc 40. Its fun
most prob crit related
terse idol
Bolter doesn't need Puncture to one shot elites/specials with MF stacks
well with mf stacks
You can do it with puncuture with 0 mf stacks
warm walrus
i might have to set the rashad for a different build, likely the kant 2b. Is power sword a good buddy for bolter?
terse idol
That's what you're trading
winter grove
Why not go grenade tinkerer for the mini nuke frags?
because every talent point I invested are needed
tidal niche
what does coherency mean or do
winter grove
what does coherency mean or do
toughness regen aura basically
tough tiger
The radius enables toughness regen and proccing of auras
calm shard
what does coherency mean or do
Well as the tutorial mentions coherency causes your toughness (the blue bar above your health) to regenerate while you stay near your team
winter grove
^
calm shard
It's also the range of your classes aura
terse idol
well it regenerates faster iirc, depending on how many people are in coherency eh?
winter grove
well it regenerates faster iirc, depending on how many people are in coherency e...
yeah
tall torrent
if teammate within 8m of u, u get coherency
passively regen toughness when not being targeted by enemies' melee attacks
coherency is a tether system
if ur in coherency with a teammate who's in coherency with 3rd teammate (who isn't in ur coherency radius of 8m)
all 3 of u are considered to be in 3-coherency
tall torrent
it's genuinely better to go keystoneless imho
most people do not understand how hard MF could hit in a full crit build
hypothetically, a gun with base 300 dmg and normal crit-weakspot 900
with full buffs (15x MF + deadly accurate + precision strikes), it would crit-weakspot for 2355
with full buffs (10x MF + deadly accurate + precision strikes), it would crit-weakspot for 2130
mental tendon
How exactly do i play the rightside path veteran?
Just stab people and thats kinda it?
uncut pebble
Smoke grenades make shooters keep firing at your last known position if they started shooting beforehand.
Best to throw them before gunners get shooting.
mental tendon
i see
winter grove
And what exactly do the smoke nades do?
imagine psyker shield
uncut pebble
It also apparently makes enemies attack slower in melee.
I can neither confirm nor deny this as I hate smokes and I do not play with vets that use them.
Nor have I ever found a smoke grenade vet in pubs.
calm shard
And what exactly do the smoke nades do?
5.5 meter radius that enemies can't draw LoS into or out of
stalkers and shooters cannot shoot blindly into smoke, and dogs can't pounce you
Trappers and Flamers also need to get closer to start attacking
mental tendon
Oh
calm shard
Gunners will keep firing where they last saw you enter the smoke if they were already shooting, but can't start shooting if you were already inside it
mental tendon
Thats actually interesting for higher difficulty 🤔
calm shard
It also has similar AI shenaniganry to ogryn taunt but to a lesser extent where ranged enemies will try to enter the smoke to get line of sight to shoot at you
raw needle
i love smoking my teammates so that trappers shoot them point blank and they have no time to react
calm shard
here's a tip on how to counteract that
stab the trapper
she's 5 meters from you at worst just kill her
tidal niche
why does my power sword take so many hits to kill a stupid unarmored units
dry cloak
Are you asking or making a statemebt
dry cloak
why does my power sword take so many hits to kill a stupid unarmored units
Send a screenahot and we will figure it out
grand perch
Sounds like you're not charging it up
dry cloak
Then send me a screenshot of what you are using
calm shard
why does my power sword take so many hits to kill a stupid unarmored units
if you don't turn it on with the special button it's trash at literally everything
tidal niche
its kinda hard to do when your getting shot at by 40 gunners all at once
calm shard
correct
this is why the power sword has faded in popularity now that there are other viable melee weapons
slow clunky piece of shit sword thats only good for 3 swings before you have to shake it like a cheap flashlight to turn it back on
tidal niche
i need something that deals more damage
tidal niche
this is why the power sword has faded in popularity now that there are other via...
whats a better sword
dry cloak
whats a better sword
Heavy sword, devil claw, shock maul, chain sword
vernal trench
Cpmbat knife
dry cloak
i tried the chain sword
Depends which mark of it
tidal niche
also do curios stack
tame lodge
i need something that deals more damage
Powered Sword 
dry cloak
also do curios stack
Yeaa
calm shard
also do curios stack
yeah
tropic halo
Level up the mastery of the weapon
north nimbus
are this stats spread ok for bolter
tropic halo
Hmm personally is not good stats
north nimbus
ok thx
tropic halo
You have more luck if you buy from the brunt armoury
raw needle
cause weapons you can easily get if you want to
north nimbus
to be fair no good drop for weapon so far on veteran
since i am new what is best way to get weapons
raw needle
get whites from brunt until you get a good roll
tropic halo
For early level players yeah i think is the best way if you struggling
north nimbus
well new since they did rework on stuff
tropic halo
get whites from brunt until you get a good roll
tropic halo
It is a mod
raw needle
mod
tropic halo
It just makes the weapons red when is max stats
tropic halo
But yeah if you got good amount of dockets you can buy white weapons from brunt armoury until you get a good roll of stats
Like the one I sent above
tidal niche
how do you max it out like that so its 80/80
also what are good blessings for the shock maul
dry cloak
how do you max it out like that so its 80/80
Empower at hadron
tropic halo
I dont really use the shock maul
dry cloak
also what are good blessings for the shock maul
Falter skullcrusher
tropic halo
Yeah you have to upgrade your weapons on hadron and make sure to level your mastery to the max
tame lodge
also what are good blessings for the shock maul
High Voltage Skullcrusher
Or even Hammerblow Skullcrusher
But that one is more niche
north nimbus
what is dump stat for bloter weapons?
pseudo fiber
Bolter mobility bolt pistol collateral
mental tendon
okay i have to admit
flunging around with the combat knife is fun.
But after one mission i feel like i get carpal tunnel
tame lodge
Yeah that's about right
mental tendon
probably
warm bolt
Ah, aight, thanks!
mental tendon
i also got to use the plasma gun now. Damn why did i sleep on it.
Probably because of Bolter overdose 🤔
It feels similar to Fire Warrior though 😄
dry cloak
I dobt use it because of how op it is
warm bolt
Probably because of Bolter overdose 🤔
I wish we could Colonel Straken that shit
Just manhandle a heavy bolter with a fuckton of ammo
dawn garnet
🤓 actually any collatoral above 70 is wasted
tropic halo
But me like max stat weapon 
dawn garnet
just find a 5050 split between mobility and collat
warm bolt
🤓 actually any collatoral above 70 is wasted
wait really
dawn garnet
i think so i did a bunch of testing with someone a while back there are different bulwark stagger breakpoints at different distances
i just dont remember the numbers
mental tendon
How exactly do you do the grenande-penance where it´s not supposed to hit the ground
just throw it really far with a lot of luck?
dawn garnet
How exactly do you do the grenande-penance where it´s not supposed to hit the gr...
chasm logistartum
wait till the very end of the mission
when you board the plane back usually a hoard spawns from the entrance
throw a grenade(s) to the entrance from the helipad it should be enough
mental tendon
i tried it so far against the walls
but that was usually like 2 seconds too ealry :/
dawn garnet
nah distance is your best bet
mental tendon
figures
dawn garnet
i think you can also do it in other places but thats where i got it
oh also dont use kraks for it
they have less radius
mental tendon
i have shredders
dawn garnet
ye good
dry cloak
Good
mental tendon
but i guess i combine stealth + long range than
dry cloak
Ask on lfg if some one is willo g to help
mental tendon
should work out either way
mental tendon
i need to do weeklys anyway
tough tiger
Für den Imperator?
dry cloak
German darktide
tough tiger
Blud thinks he's living in Reikland 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥
This is Atoma, you reject
There be no rat men for you to slay here
vernal trench
This is Atoma, you reject
There be no rat men for you to slay here
im atoma
tough tiger
Germany was never associated with fun, hence any joke made about it is the same
vernal trench
Yeeeeeeeeeeet
me like infiltrate
warm bolt
Yeeeeeeeeeeet
Yoo good job
vernal trench
can anyone help me with 10 auric games no deaths
tough tiger
I dont think anyone has enough time for that
vernal trench
anythings better than braindead randomws
vernal trench
same
sometimes im both
ah fuck it ill never get 10 games imma do ahvoc 40s
auric examplar is a waste of time
tawdry jackal
vernal trench
i saw u react u fucker @latent parcel
i hope u saw the clip of u flyying off teh map
latent parcel
ya i did that was great
sacred igloo
can anyone help me with 10 auric games no deaths
I would join but I'm workin today. Might be able to get out of work tho
latent parcel
i saw u react u fucker <@201514447121022976>
i need more godgryn practice
vernal trench
i need more godgryn practice
u getting on?
latent parcel
might have some time before work
vernal trench
aight dm me when ur on
charred pulsar
Best curios for veteran? rn I have hp, tpughness and stamina but I saw some ppl mention that double toughness is better sooo help
sacred igloo
Best curios for veteran? rn I have hp, tpughness and stamina but I saw some ppl ...
I like double toughness but some advocate for double hp instead
I feel like gold toughness, toughness DR, and toughness replenishment are easy enough to get that double toughness is worth it more most of the time IMO
Try both though and see what you like more
charred pulsar
I just like the way I have it rn tbh, but was curious for what would be the min max option
sacred igloo
there's a fairly entrenched mindset wherein you build yourself to have 200hp + s...
^
We were talking about it a bit last night
unreal nova
Best curios for veteran? rn I have hp, tpughness and stamina but I saw some ppl ...
1 of each still works for an all rounder thing. Drop stam if you have a high stam melee though unless you run deadshot.
pseudo fiber
I run 2 toughness 1 stam
But as Rose said I see people running 2 health 1 stam
I dont really see people running one of each especially in havoc because the reduction is harsh
supple laurel
average veteran player (this is literally me)
he literally said in CHAT and it was still on my screen and i SOMEHOW still missed it
faint beacon
You can just dodge backwards to get out of its radius
supple laurel
oh i tried crouching backwards LOL
cloud thunder
And you have havoc 40?
tall atlas
average veteran player (this is literally me)
😭
last marten
And you have havoc 40?
when the (+1000) pulls the demonhost 🥹
tropic halo
average veteran player (this is literally me)
Why have you tried to crouch stealth LOL
supple laurel
And you have havoc 40?
yes
faint beacon
supple laurel
With that movement? 🤔
yes
cloud thunder
Who carried you ong
tropic halo
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jzUMZgOzyEBm564-f?invite=c...
Thats interesting speed boost even backwards
supple laurel
apparently i was a better veteran than 90% of the people they pick up so now i play with them when they play
tropic halo
Did not know that was possible
supple laurel
@wicked cedar back me up here 🙏
faint beacon
Thats interesting speed boost even backwards
Knife shenanigans
Why I’m running lacerate uncanny cause you can abuse the ever loving shit out of rending bleed which deletes hordes
supple laurel
im good at the game just i lack alot of knowledge really
visual remnant
average veteran player (this is literally me)
🙊
faint beacon
And then knife in general is also good at well- killing anything lmao
visual remnant
average veteran player (this is literally me)
LMFAOOOOO
supple laurel
i swear i cant see those mfs sometimes 😭
visual remnant
The glowing murmuring thing
There's a grace period when it floats up where you can run away
tropic halo
I am all down for crazy movement but i am not up for all shenanigangs you can pull with the knife
tropic halo
i swear i cant see those mfs sometimes 😭
Your mates did not even pinged the DH?
faint beacon
The glowing murmuring thing
The hoarfrost covering your skin as well when you get close
supple laurel
Your mates did not even pinged the DH? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
apparently not until it was too late
i think they all assumed i wasnt a blind fucking bat
which is honestly fair
tropic halo
Funny that they had the time to type in chat but not actually ping
faint beacon
That’s the biggest indicator you’re in a DHs range is the frost Starts covering the border of your screen
supple laurel
joking aside though whats some good melees besides DS for veteran
im tired of DS
was thinkin combat axe but is it any good
cloud thunder
I’ve been enjoying achalys psword
faint beacon
It’s literally the best melee in the game
tropic halo
Hmm, devil claw is fun for me but it is not too amazing against armor
supple laurel
It’s literally the best melee in the game
the combat axe or the DS
faint beacon
Veteran has like 4 good melees and the rest are extremely dependent
tropic halo
Shovel is a fun one if you wanna try to one tap most enemies
supple laurel
500 KG bomb vs Nuke
i like throwing a nuke at my enemies though to be fair
when in doubt nuclear warheads
tropic halo
I need to give the heavy sword a try for veteran
It is good on zealot but never tried for vet
faint beacon
I need to give the heavy sword a try for veteran <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
It’s playable you just force yourself to only use Bolter or Plasma
Cause of lack of carapace damage
supple laurel
heavy sword is good on vet though iirc its not good against armor
tropic halo
Bolter is good for me
faint beacon
You’ll notice that with veteran
supple laurel
heavy sword is good on vet though iirc its not good against armor
yeah
faint beacon
Pick one weapon forced to use Y to compliment it
tropic halo
heavy sword is good on vet though iirc its not good against armor
So same thing as the devil claw
I think I can tolerate it
faint beacon
Combat Axe
tropic halo
I already spend too much time just beating a crusher with the devil claw alone
faint beacon
If you do BM + Headtaker
supple laurel
Combat Axe
brainfart moment
faint beacon
Combined with Rending Strikes talent
And Elite Cara perks
You can 3 tap crushers with heavy spam
And still have good horde clear
Which is spamming lighting
tropic halo
if i remember the axe does struggle with cleave?
faint beacon
If you’re not running Brutal Momentum
Which gives it infinite cleave on kill
Basically kill enemy it’s damage doesn’t drop
So you can just
supple laurel
i assume combat axe dumpstat is mobility right
tropic halo
I used to play combat axe through my mid experience with the game and kept struggling with cleave on hordes but i might give a try again
faint beacon
Kill 4 poxers at the click of a light swing
faint beacon
i assume combat axe dumpstat is mobility right
Yes
supple laurel
k
faint beacon
Rashad is literally
The most overpowered melee in the game outside of mobility abuse
That’s DS
Knife used to be that but was massively dethroned
supple laurel
which combat axe mark should i use
analog mural
Rashad for finesse stat
faint beacon
I should mention you kinda have to go down the WS keystone path to pick up Trench Fighter Drill
That 10% melee speed is a huge difference on Caxe
faint beacon
On veteran it’s literally a QOL talent but it’s not a must need at times
I’d say it’s a “if you can afford it”
supple laurel
what about iron will?
faint beacon
Caxe though? You kinda have too with Vet
faint beacon
That’s the handful of mandatory perks
Precision strikes, Iron Will, Tac Awareness, Demo Stockpile OR Demo Team depending on point tax
Those are like the 4 must takes
supple laurel
turning the combat axe into a shovel with weapon customization is diabolical
faint beacon
Honorable mention Desperado
That shit is insane on Veteran
I’d say superiority complex is also nice but that’s very build dependent
Honestly you’ll notice that a lot with vet
Your weapons massively shape your tree pathing
sacred igloo
Am I bad for feeling like I need suppression immunity on low fire rate weapons like helbore or infantry las
My instincts say yes
faint beacon
Am I bad for feeling like I need suppression immunity on low fire rate weapons l...
Helbore yes cause it’s suppression and recoil effected under suppression don’t exist
However
Infantry Las
You literally have to run determined
Or you can’t shoot anything
That’s how severe it’s suppressed downside is
So I mean I feel you’re just in the groove of not realizing other weapons might not need the talent cause honestly ILG is the biggest offender
sacred igloo
Fair I only really notice it on ILG
slow spade
Simply just aim better
sacred igloo
I'll have to run helbore again without it and see
sacred igloo
Simply just aim better
faint beacon
Simply just aim better
Fair argument
slow spade
If I don't have 100% accuracy, my power supply shuts off
faint beacon
Me who’s gotten so used to the Jank Agri 9 recoil that I straight up cannot comprehend the “it’s recoil pattern is bad” argument with it anymore lmao
faint beacon
If I don't have 100% accuracy, my power supply shuts off
I have to hit 100% headshots or my computer turns into an IED and levels my entire Bloc
slow spade
Good, now you'll never miss or its suddenly not your problem c:
sacred igloo
Maybe the real cyclonic torpedo was the friends we made along the way
slow spade
Maybe the real cyclonic torpedo was the friends we made along the way
Give frag bomb grenade tinkerer fatshark
faint beacon
Wait today is the 28th
slow spade
Yes
faint beacon
FUCK I WORK ALL DAY AND THE NEW ZOMBIES MAP CAME OUT RAGGHHH
slow spade
Employment at will? Just quit 😎
slow spade
My contract is employment at will and its so tempting each day
tight orbit
Anyone have any tips for this penance? I've just been using the Bolt Pistol with Crit Blessings. The trouble is that the weapon specialist buffs only last a few seconds and it ain't always guaranteed to get a weakspot crit. Pretty slow going on this penance so far.
faint beacon
Anyone have any tips for this penance? I've just been using the Bolt Pistol with...
Revolver
I kid you not revolver
But it’s tedious
Veterans penances are very lengthy
slow spade
Revolver and bolt pistol have really generous weakspot hits
tropic halo
Honestly a bolter can be helpful
faint beacon
Honestly a bolter can be helpful
That’s a hot take
tight orbit
I think i tried the revolver already and didn't notice much difference, just maybe more accurate in comparison, longer reload too, didn't notice any higher amount of weakspot crits though. I'll give it a try again though.
tropic halo
thought it just said kill specails/elite with weapon specialist active
faint beacon
Extremely short window to use the Ranged Stacks
Yeah it has to be the ranged stacks active
tight orbit
Extremely short window to use the Ranged Stacks
yeah that's the main problem there
faint beacon
Which is 5 seconds
faint beacon
Hence BP and Revolver are good for it
hearty panther
i do think it should be 10s just so that ranged attack speed also means something
faint beacon
I’d argue the Vigilants but I’d rather you get actual progress done
faint beacon
i do think it should be 10s just so that ranged attack speed also means somethin...
I honestly don’t mind it being 5 at all
hearty panther
presently i dont either since we are mostly all playing into the critshot + always prepared
faint beacon
I kinda just wish it wasn’t so leaned towards get 1 ranged and get minimum 3 melee
hearty panther
but thats boring and one dimensional so it would be nice if that attack speed could actually last like the melee one does
then it would benefit other weapon types more noticably
faint beacon
Yeah literally
hearty panther
what about it tho
faint beacon
Get like maybe 1 or 2 stacks on the side and you can just immediately swap to get out of bad situations
Especially 10 ranged stacks giving you like damn near max toughness lmao
tight orbit
i keep forgetting to get the most out of that in the heat of the moment, only really use it when a special comes around or something
faint beacon
It’s underrated but it’s understandable why people don’t take it
Mainly cause it taxes your talent tree
wicked cedar
Who ping me...
hearty panther
im
how do i say this
yea it doesnt
work like that at all
its only ever the one 20% per swap
faint beacon
Find that hard to believe with the insane toughness I’ve gotten from it
hearty panther
yea youre getting that from ... something else
cause its super uh
shit actually
faint beacon
That or just consistently swapping
hearty panther
3s internal cooldown just kills it imo
doesnt matter where you put it, if i can skip it id still skip it
hollow ibex
maybe i'm crazy but i don't feel like the 3s cd is that much
it's the pathing that kills it more often for me than the internal cd
hearty panther
it is and it isnt
it relegates it to being a supplemental
instead of something you could deliberately play into to farm
if im genuinely doing one melee > one ranged > one melee > one ranged through a crowd of shooters, im only earning toughness on some of those procs instead of all of them
hollow ibex
i mean why do you need to swap that often tho
hearty panther
so many reasons
hollow ibex
and you prob won't need 20% toughness literally every 2s
that node is always meant to be supplemental to O4B/CK/ET
hearty panther
sprint speed, dodges, blocking, sprint efficiency, reload swap, qq, etc.
hollow ibex
i really don't understand why any of those require you to swap after literally every kill 🤔
but i might just not be a pro gamer
hearty panther
toughness is something that ideally you earn if you meet its conditions and you want as few or as generous a condition(s) as possible
so to have it barred on a 3s cooldown imo, instead of guaranteed on a proc consumption
idk
dont care for it
dont like the idea of pressing Q, using up a pile of Ranged Specialist stacks, and not actually getting the toughness boost i was maybe fishing for
grand perch
I dont really see people running one of each especially in havoc because the red...
i do 
hollow ibex
dont like the idea of pressing Q, using up a pile of Ranged Specialist stacks, a...
yeah fair enough
faint beacon
I tend to swap a shit ton when mainly playing WS cause you really only need 3 stacks of ranged minimum to get the Crit benefit
So suppose it’s very much a playstyle preference based node
hearty panther
if i dont press q once every 1000ms i will die
faint beacon
It’s true if I don’t swap my weapon minimum every 2 seconds my city will be nuked
hollow ibex
yeah that's 5s
dusky kernel
Are there any Commissar builds that I could maybe look at somewhere? I wanna make something with Saber/laspistol and down the middle keystone but I am not good at making builds yet.
junior needle
Real commissars use the 🅱️ istol
tough tiger
Bolt pistol looks better but las pistol is ok
dusky kernel
Oh I am down to using the bolt pistol as well.
junior needle
iirc bistol is better suited for grenade spam because one of the blessings interacts with nades
Not sure how good it is apart from that, I haven't played in a long time
It was bad back then
dusky kernel
iirc bistol is better suited for grenade spam because one of the blessings inter...
You got my attention
dusky kernel
Where should I look then?
wanton dawn
Where should I look then?
Post a crap random build in here and ask for comment. Ppl will flock to criticize and you'll get your info
cloud thunder
Or just simply ask for recommendations on weapons you’re interested in then tweak to fit your playstyle.
That’s what I did
dusky kernel
No better way to grab people's attention than fucking ask for an opinion in a room full of tryhards, shit you right. wheeze
dusky kernel
Would this also work with a bolter pistol battle brother?
junior needle
Would this also work with a bolter pistol battle brother?
He's not your battle brother, battle buddy
terse idol
Would this also work with a bolter pistol battle brother?
YOULL NEED TO TWEAK IT
caps 
proven garden
Are there any Commissar builds that I could maybe look at somewhere? I wanna mak...
would this work im a bit new to vet
terse idol
Bolter doesn't need rending
dusky kernel
*YOULL NEED TO TWEAK IT*
caps <a:CatWaggle:1120529574841819197>
Already on it
tame lodge
Would this also work with a bolter pistol battle brother?
You'd have to remove shock trooper
dusky kernel
You'd have to remove shock trooper
Exactly what i just did
terse idol
would this work im a bit new to vet
Don't take fte
Replace it with grenadier
Maximum grenades
grand perch
you mean demo team?
proven garden
thats rough
terse idol
I mean personally it's not that good like
grand perch
its not bad but its not good enough to take both on that spot in the tree
tame lodge
Exactly what i just did
Ok now you have two points
Path to Grenade Tinkerer
proven garden
rq wheres demo team
terse idol
thats rough
Sorry
tame lodge
Above middle aura
proven garden
n o ignore what i said i found it
terse idol
Born leader isn't good if you're not running glory hunter on your gun imo
terse idol
Yeah
proven garden
thats rough
terse idol
Its not like bad I should say with voc and tac awareness
I'm very bipolar in my opinions today
dusky kernel
See this is what i call a real hood build LMAO
terse idol
Basically born leader is kinda bad without glory hunter
proven garden
what is bipolar
terse idol
Swapping rapidly between two different moods
proven garden
ah thats rough
terse idol
(In this case I'm swapping between different opinions)
You do want demo team if you're running Lethal proximity anywho
Because memes
warm bolt
See this is what i call a real hood build LMAO
Imagine if you could gangsta-aim 🅱️istol
proven garden
got it
warm bolt
I just wanted to try out combat blade
1 finesse, a cooking knife is better crafted than this knife
proven garden
its so grim
grand perch
shouldnt have taken brunts rashuns
tame lodge
*I just wanted to try out combat blade* <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
Bro got that plastic knife
warm bolt
warm bolt
shouldnt have taken brunts rashuns
But 'tato peels and crayons
warm bolt
its so grim
Dark even
dusky kernel
Which site you guys use for posting talent trees?
warm bolt
Gameslantern is the most used one iirc
terse idol
https://gyazo.com/02409cfe5f744f58539fbd036b4b4b9c
For what gun?
dusky kernel
Bistol
terse idol
Also with one point left take superiority complex
wanton dawn
https://gyazo.com/02409cfe5f744f58539fbd036b4b4b9c
You need grenade regen on kill
Also pretty sure you have more than 1 left
dusky kernel
Also pretty sure you have more than 1 left
Taking Demo team that makes all 30
dusky kernel
What blessings?
I'm still sorta new sxo I am unsure about blessings yet
terse idol
Taking Demo team that makes all 30
You got 26 points
dusky kernel
Do I take off Target Down then?
terse idol
I guess my question is, what melee weapon are ya using to take repricosity?