#veteran-class
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I got one from the requisitorium thing
not carapace?
What’s carapace for
what enemies are unyielding?
boss, reaper, bulwark
just dont be that asshole who spams "i need ammo"
monsters, reaper, bulwark
"I need this ammo more tha you are"
i use a controller it’s a miracle i can pop off any message during a mosh pit 
you guys ever kinda zone out and realize you’re really doing way too much ranged to the point of peaking cover and stuff
then you realize like a zealot has been following you observing you the whole time for some reason
this happens a lot and I feel like I’m being judged 
Usually it's the opposite for me
I get way into melee, run into a wall of gunners and while down see an ogryn sorta judging me 
an ogryn whos also downed next to you lmao
Lmao 
If they can follow, then we zooming
I should do that sometimes
Idk, i feel like I'd do the bare minimum to survive
and walk a lot
If someone watches me then I'll be doing the first sin to ever be commited as vet
Use guns vs horde
try holding a crouch and taking careful semi shots and see the reaction you get
Had a entire vc howl their ass off when I was the last man standing crouched in a corner trying to fight off a horde
Got a sore throat trying to yell out a explanation over them
...
Fuck you that's how I used ilasgun first 100 hours
I see the problem
@narrow frost I have no damn clue what happened but I had a certified vermintide moment happen before I went to go lay down lmao
Watch Goodbye Stormfiend and millions of other Warhammer Vermintide 2 videos captured using Medal.
Boss got ledged
If you push a boss into a wall it will die
Damn i kinda wanna play vermintide now but i suck as knight Krubert 
That’s fucking hilarious
That boss is really easy to since the weak spot makes it stagger
The great horned rat watching in horror as one of it's best monstrosities got obliterated by 4 dipshits shoving it into a wall 90s bullies style
Cause I quickly picked up enjoying Merc and FK
GK is going to feel the best with all the damage bonuses
On one hand, grail knight is cool cause it's a knight, he has riposte and a special weapon unlockable with quests
But also he's bretonnian
Me when I stagger enemies and magically get a shit ton of Temp HP
It’s probably why I’m liking Merc and FK
Shield with stagger temp is broken
The temp HP is ludicrous
The merc is the default one right?
Ah aight
Watch Victor was having none of it and millions of other Warhammer Vermintide 2 videos captured using Medal.
Also the bots are fucking hilarious with their reaction speeds
kinda wish i was good enough to complete the quest for grail knight's special weapon 
Think im gonna stick with merc this time, he still has a gun, right?
Yes
Merc is actually doing damage and killing hordes
Plus VOC basically
As your ability
Then you have Footknight who’s like Shield Ogryn with Bullrush except all you’re really doing is stagger control
Easy Temp HP
When you level your other characters and max out their loadouts they go crazy
Footknight my beloved
Bardins bot solos chaos pats and bosses
Oooh
Might try the footknight first then
or battle priest Saltzpyre
I used to use the fuck out of that as ironbreaker.
Look from watching you play unchained I’m considering trying that out for Sienna cause the idea of being a walking IED
is the funniest shit ever
Unchained Sienna Gameplay:
The way I played was not most optimal
I was goofing with knife
Speed
But yes
Unchained is amazing
It’s flail with unchained ain’t it
I run mace
Nice little bonk stick
Got one of the silliest legendary names/lore too
I usually run scythe
knife has insane movetech in both tide games inshallah
Gale saw me zooming
i do pa and two lights to keep my stamina up
pretty sure its better to just do pa light or nothing but pa for speed but i cant remember anymore
If it only has that when he feels like it that’s not consistent enough to be viable
what
A logical response to what you said
You said, knife has insane move tech in both games, but only if/when god wills it
I prefer my cutting implements to just do the same thing every time regardless of that conditional variable
Depends on class
Nah you still gotta pray
For revolushuhuun
Kruebert/Saltzpyre to Sigmar
The dwarf to the ancestors and probably Valaya specifically
Wood elf to idrk the tree
The witch to Sigmar as well but like less fervently
Holy sugmar
DA REVULUSHUN?
The way he hits the ground and there’s like no sound or anything
Will forever be the funniest shit ever
I’m genuinely considering increasing FOV in DT now but idk how much it’ll hit performance
LMAO
Look I jumped up to champion so we can partially play the game now
Nice
i thought vermintide doesnt have crossplay
or do you mean pc player with a controller
wallahi
Vermintide is unfortunately ruined on console because of that. There are like 20 active lobbies on ps with 1 or 2 being cata
The absence of crossplay I mean
bro fell like a meatball
Is it me or does plasma gun just feels so slow, like each shot being charged before I finish charging my team will kill the enemy sometimes, does it improve with weapon level?
No-no, as in normal shots too have charging timer, like 0.8 seconds for me (On my 37/60)
Oh
I assume on full 60 it will be like 0.5
Yeah it gets better from what i got
Which is also kinda slow?
I was debating between plasma gun and revolver and as much as I love how little I have to reload compared to revolver that only gets one bullet for passive
So far the best build I liked was Recon Lasgun with burn dots, but it can get stale holding LMB
Havent tried the revolver but plasma does feel good overall
Tbf i also have blaze away blessing which gives more fire rate if you spam left click
And to help with heating there's optimised cooling, my beloved
I saw a revolver build without weapon specialist, Idk how that guy gets over a million damage, but downtime with reloads was killing me
50mn game is how 
gotta love how shredder autopistol is so bad that the only usage according to hammer of the emperor, is to just use it to supress enemies
@tired egret
You want 71 charge
You playn?
Prob in 1h

oy
The crime is the build I'll bring
fuck
you getting on?
striek 69
i aint joining no strike team
you and todd can talk to each other
No dm actually, I just use vet-chat
^
damn thats hot
I feel dumb for asking. But can someone explain to me how to tell if the stats i have on weapons are good or trash? I just got the game 2 days ago and I'll be honest I'm a little lost.
the right numbers are the ones it will have when fully empowered
Generally speaking you want to dump mobility/defences/collateral
and by dump that means have that stat be 60% at the max rating of 500
times this varies are for something like the flamer, where you dump the damage or mobility stat, the plasma gun which you want iirc 71% charge rate and 69% thermal resist, and there are a few more like dumping warp resist on psyker weapons
the reason mobility is generally dumped is because, at the end of the day, it is just a slight sprint speed increase and 2% dodge distance
Ok, so if let's say damage is 64/80 then that means when it's fully upgraded it'll have a damage of 80. I'd just have to upgrade the weapons? If so that is way simpler than I was thinking in my head lol
exactly
the left number is current stats, the right number is maxed out stats
Ah ok. That's helps alot. Much appreciated.
Yep
Just pray the Hadron bug doesn't happen.
I have yet to see that happen >.>
I believe it happens... but it hasn't happened to me yet
Is that, or I'm just unlucky as all hecks.
If you knew how many weapons she borked for me already...
I could basically buy like 8 mil dockets of cosmetics instead of gambling more base to try again.
she broke a perfect plasma gun for me, turned it to 71thermal69charge when it should be 69t71c
3 bolt pistols, a shotgun, half the melees on my vet. And I don't even want to gamble plasma because of it.
Oh, she also broke my first purga.
Took away burn to dump into warp resist.
Absolutely horrible.
I... think I actually might have seen it happen once... but she fixed my weapon instead of breaking it... but that was near the start of mastery
it was gonna be like 61% 79%
but it was such a minor change I didn't really notice
cause adhd
finally something good out of all this pain
Every other weapon has ended with the right stats
I'm autistic. Is why this drives me up a wall. OCD does not help.
Is why rolling plasma will kill me mentally some day.
Is the only way to explain the feelings and rage.
Whats that?
Max stats get changed.
So say your mobility dump sword now has 61-65 and something else is 79-75.
yeah the stats drift from what they were said to be at first. it's seemingly unpredictable in terms of when it'll happen and what effect it'll have
That sounds like it suckssssss
It does suck. You can lose 1 ammo in clip from just a 1% diff.
Oh that would suck with my revolver lol.
The only one I know atm where 79 to 80 is 1 ammo in clip is combat shotgun actually.
12 to 13 bullets in clip.
Ah well good thing for right now I'm just 80% melee lol
I was too poor to reroll a new one back then so used it.
Can anyone help me get the on overwatch penance?
which technically increases its total ammo by 1 right? :3
Yes.
Sweet, that gives me 1 more shot I will miss can miss have missed should miss Ah, fuck this I give up

XD
Hey guys quick question, what is more viable on high level missions? The bolt gun or the revolver?
both are, for Vet... now if you're talking aurics, maelstroms, or havoc idk for sure
Run exe plasma stance /j
Yeah specifically maelstroms and havocs
I love missing almost every fucking breakpoint
The super hard
I'm so tired boss 😭
I mean... for the most part if you are good enough you can run anything outside of havoc, afaik
idk what is better for maelstroms, tho, between the 2
one gives better sniping, one gives better magdumping between the revolver and bolter
Another day another brick-iq redditor sniper suggestion
Hm? I ain't suggesting sniping, I just am saying which is better at it
"Add a longlas!!!"
It's called the infantry lasgun on the highest damage mark
Completely unrelated to you
Ah
brick-iq? Probably me. redditor? I avoid reddit like the plague lol
I'm just angry because dumb people keep flooding my feed with longlas begging
The biggest thing I want is a melta gun
Would you mind it being an ogryn weapon
hey whats up guys
when do yall think they're gonna add a longlas
Please kill yourself
MODS?
idk, man, longlas hyp train!

Mfs on reddit will be like "you believe in Infantry Las? That pales in effectiveness to my weapon idea, longlas" and then proceed to fucking die with the longlas because tunnel visioned horde coming from the back
Who knows
Wherever you can't see is probably 100 poxwalkers
Wherever you aren't looking... is the ass rat ready to stab you in the ass(in vt2)...
I love how they can just spawn behind you mid swing attack
I can't tell you how many perfect parries I've gotten off of them, it has happened so many times
Dude same
I also dont understand ratling or skitarii
Damn a class that specialises in gun, in only we had one
Truly would be a revolutionary addition
I want longlas so I can better snipe my mate out of bound with barrel precision shot

finally a good excuse for longlas
Virgin "i want longlas cause sniper pewpew!"
Vs
Chad "longlas will make it easier to teamkill with barrels"
<--- dis u?
I mean... wouldn't a ratling just be a glorified vet with less melee capabilities?
Exactly 
Same with skitarii although ig he could get some support branch
Which would also make support vet irrelevant
Oh man, I need to watch immediately
Na wtf is this
How the fuck are those both getting on the prison ship
Skitarii on a prison ship would be
Nigh impossible if they were a prisoner
Their handlers would probably just fucking servitorise or recycle them
Ratlings are too slippery to even get caught
I mean i guess you can say it's part of the ship crew
But also like no dice adeptus mechanicus would let them
No, time for a redundant class 
2nd mark of the slabshield
Brute shield baby
Brute shield is basically the slabshield
But better
Its basically a fucking frontal forcefield
so basically a bulwark shield
More of a voidshield from the bosses
Normal PVP-game shield type shit
Ngl I don't think Ogryn can get a Multimelta
I bet those things are really delicate
A heavy bolter though
The astartes can just swing em without damaging them
Want an accurate description of hadron's rng to the player?
Clunk
Also an assault cannon would be funny
Heavy stubbers for slow firing
Twin stubbers as the middle child
And assault cannon for the truly pissing bullets
Also it would be funny as hell to see heretics get flung around by the assault cannon revving it's barrel
did someone say cannon?
dump stat for helbore is charge rate right?
I'm surprised we aren't seeing any other LM variants in our missions
I'd kill to see a LM Exterminator bust through a wall and start pissing out autocannon rounds into armoured heretics
This thing?
oh nvm its stability FUCK
I believe 30k astartes had handheld versions of these
wait... the longlas is literally just a sniper rifle version of a lasgun...?
Like normal miniguns
Yes.
BORING
Check the snipers longlas
It's that
Honestly it would go so hard to see a functioning LM to aid us
Heretic armour?
Demolisher bursts through a wall and rams itself straight into the armour
Mobility
Firing the demolisher cannon and multi meltas to clear the path
there isnt any mobility on helbore bro
Yea so dump it
Lmao
duh
useful-less moment
I'd take a mission where we went to go rescue a hellhammer
Wat dat
The baneblade!
Idk what that is also
It's basically the Baneblade but exchanges out the Baneblade cannon for an eradicator cannon
It's basically the urban combat version of the baneblade
Perfect for the war
However this implies there's an armoured regiment here
Idk what banbladd is
Or Atoma is making their own
Im atoma
The BANEBLADE
With its ELEVEN (twelve, stubber wasn't really on the baneblade in DoW or smth atp) BARRELS OF HELL
And it's cousin the hellhammer
Or rather the brother tbf
not hevy enuff
riveted armor in the 41st millenia is definitely a choice
Dominus knights in tertium
This is what I'm talking about
An emperor class titan would just fucking destroy the place
Tru
But it would be funny if a moebian armoured regiment came in
Imagine if ogryn could carry a chimera on his back though
1 shot? half of the hive city gone
Half? Damn the guns must've been powered down
There was a story about an ogryn hauling a chimera with medical supplies in it to his attached commissar
Yep, exactly
That comissar got to retire
can you blame them? They can't fit into small places
It's a miracle ours can ride valkyries everyday
Like... if you put me in an air vent... I'd be claustrophobic as well, and I don't suffer from that lol
Yeah you gotta lure them in with rashuns and comissar telling them it's gonna be fine
There used to be a rule on the tabletop where ogryns couldnt enter a chimera without a comissar
Also they puke
A LOT there

It would be funny if dukane just acted a lot more friendly toward ogryns
New ogryn keystone - projectile vomit

Welcome back beast of nurgle
one of the 53rd guards has a line about an ogryn repeatedly starring at them and the other one telling them to not make eye contact or something
I really want to see a moebian armoured regiment get requisitioned
In the future
Once the 53rds spotlight fades
So we can see more LM tank variants
inb4 we get even more crushers because of it
And whatever the hell kind of baneblade they run
we still dont have a dreg equivalent to crushers and maulers tbh
leman russ tank are more possible

BANEBLAAADEE
Imagine just seeing THIS
ogryns are theyre own category i think

Part of a level where we enter a room and a shit ton of crushers and maulers walk in and then a Leman Russ Exterminator crashes in and takes them all out
And a line about extra rashuns
but dreg sniper and mauler would be nice
Well, if the total apocalypse mod told me anything... bane blades are HUUUUUUGE
like... 80 crushers and 150 maulers... and we're just like

Wait what i dont remember leman russes in action 
Ultra heavy tanks
Then BAM! the wall blows open and we get to fight a chaos crusher
That's not a baneblade btw
Yarrick used one as his command vehicle
Called it fortress of arrogance
ik, but, discord gifs don't have them in them lol
I don't think anyway
TECHNICALLY it is baneblade chassis
Stormsword I think
Looks like a rhino?
I just typed in warhammer 40k tank
That's a land raider
Lots of leman rus
That's specifically the LM Punisher
Rhino
From the game shootas blood and teef
Oh right

Iirc only 1 game has a baneblade or maybe 2, in dow2
Blood raven BREAKING IT DOWN???
And then the dow1 total apocalypse mod had one
There's a baneblade in dow2
SM2 does show a baneblade
You run away from it in 1 campaign mission
Oh yeah!
oh and btw
There's a scene where Titus walks by a cadian giving a speech ontop of a Baneblade
It's massive

"Sah, im really hungry now sah"
starts getting closer
But still I'd kill to see an LM in action
Funnily enough i dont think we see it anywhere but this scene in game
A punisher in the distance mowing down heretics
What about demolisher 
We see enough of them
But again
If we encounter heretic armour
We know who to call
demolisher I hardly know her
A demolisher would just wipe any armour the heretics have
MM + Demolisher cannon
Boom
"Oi did naffin sah! Just took a lil boite"
If they have a barely functioning LM, now they dont
An LM punisher is anti-infantry?
I thought it was AA... but I guess any AA cannon can be anti-infantey if you aim it low enough
Such is the demolisher
"MM" ... brain: "mario maker"
It's a minigun.
On a tank
AA is handled by the hydra batteries
You see their cannons as the skyfires iirc
This time it's the UNmaker 
Oh yeah actually
wtf are these gifs...

I'd do with a Hellhound appearance

But it would be like
Dude it'd be sick
Funny as shit
To watch as a Rogal Dorn BT try to cross a bridhe
And the bridge collapses
Oh, it's a tank... I thought it was a super hound lol
Yeah the hellhound is the weaponised version of a Chimera
If it has any consolation
They can be equipped with a chem cannon
Idk what it exactly does
But I think it's either gassing them or spraying acid
iirc it's acid
Cool
I'd argue chimera is already a weapon
Yes but the hellhound has better armament
A lascannon, fire deck, heavy stubber and a hunter-killer missile
Also bolter
Okay fair
wait literally darktide confirmed lol
Whay
We got our own lore segment
What
It's not a lascannon
It's a multi laser
Which is basically a las machine gun I think
A hellhound has a flamer, chem cannon and melta cannon
They do look similar
Plus multi lasers arent
Brought up too much
They're not as popular as their other siblings
Only other mfs with it are the Sentinels
Wait im positive sentinels actually get a lascannon
Holy shit a multi laser would go hard
Nvm
It's a big thing
God when will we get the hellguns
I don't think we will
Yeah same
Even the heretics hotshot volley guns are substandard
As much as i hope for like even a hotshot
Isnt it only subpar cause they barely get any maintenance done?
Meanwhile kasrkin and scions can just do it out of a hellgun pack
Iirc you can get the volley gun wires fried by firing for too long
Actually thinking about stuff like this
How would FS deal with power fists?
Cause you cant take guns that arent pistols with it even by logic alone
Power sword but single target
i cant speak for fatshark but, for me, rectally
TWO powerfists
With flamers?
WAITWAIT
And STUBBERS TAPED BELOW
I mean
Those are aggressor style
You don't see any fucker with 2 power fists
Sorry we lost the stc
-gw, probably
I'm pretty sure you can use weapons with the power fist
Yeah i think they actually did in-lore 
If you're experienced enough
Something pistol sized im sure you can
But otherwise the hand wouldnt fit
But I am drawing examples from astartes
I think you just
Remove the gauntlet
And it's a pretty lengthy swap
If it's a one handed ranged weapon it's pretty fast
But two handed ones will need to remove the power fist to use it
Sounds like a fair trade?
I'd heavily fw the Jarran Kell loadout
A power fist and a power sword
The jarran kell loadout?
Guy holding up the cadian colours
To the left of Creed
That's Jarran Kell
OH
Look closely enough and you can barely make out his powerfist on the colours
OOOOH IT'S THE MAN HOW COULD I FORGET
I even have the book and stuff
It'd be so sick
PS for hordes and PF for single target damage
Probablt ursakar
Man's got a lot of respect
Did the cadian vet actually fight on cadia
I mean he did say
He watched his whole world burn before his eyes
In the character maker menu
Implying he evacuated from cadia as it blew up
A troubling lack of him saying cadia stands though
Cadia stands as a VoC line would go hard
You know, an even better point
Considering what VoC does
Beef up your teammates
Make them survive linger
Making them stand
That's why i wish FS also added more regiment-specific voicelines
randos: Hold my beer
As well as add vostroyans PLEASE NOT EVEN GW RECOGNIZES THEM ANYMORE
Honestly I'd take the talent that makes voc revive people
If they added specific voicelines that triggered when that talent is invoked
if I had extra talents I'd consider it, but, reducing the aoe is a bit rough
Ooooh Yeah
Like in payday
"GET BACK ON YA KARKING FEET SOLDIER!"
"CADIA STANDS and so should you"
The last part should be said in the calmest voice
Yeah
Bonus points if there's even more specific lines for ogryn
"CADIA STANDS
Take your time, big man"
Holy shit I need this as a voiceline
For when someone gets downed
Or shit a loose cannon would say to a downed cadian vet
One way ticket to being shot dead
is this a bug?
damn, the only party on the party finder is someone i have blocked lol. what a world
Gold moebian mask 
username ain't wrong
Talking about the level but both are true
no mods?
Put the karkin' boot in
Cosmetic are mods, but my level shouldnt be messed w a mod
the only thing i can think of is displaying havoc level instead of your trust level
I duo up havoc 20, shouldnt be a problem
"NO DYING TILL I SAY SO!" already fits though.
Havoc is pretty easy unless youre a duo then it's a sweat fest
"Havoc is pretty easy until you play it with half a team"
"And you can't change bots or join other teams"
ActUally why cant you change bots, why is it always vets
They deny us the Ogryn bot cause they know it would be too powerful
Why are the bots level 1 in havoc, who knows?
Real
Inb4 speedrun zealot bot
Dunno why they didn't implement weave like bots, they bug out 60% of the time but least they can have skills
"Ohohoho we ain't done yet!"
sometimes true level doesnt update right after u level up
true level does display the highest clearance level u have in havoc
800 hp orgryn bot
That’s the equivalent of a heresy mission though, lmfao
Why is bro talking like he’s the lord of havoc
Try duo havoc gas, let me know how it goes
I think I was a few xp off lvl 30 and the game rounded up my true level. I got the penance for level 30
Also, true pain was duo weave 30... took a week or two off my lifespan
has bro even done a 40 yet
h20 is heresy
not even kidding
try duoing h35+
I mean if it's easy, you should try it out. 0 space for anything and if your partner dies, it's pretty much gg cause your bots already dead. Not impossible but runs are over 40 mins long
Wasn't nearly impossible as weave 30, but I digress
i see duo 40s take place nearly daily
i could probably reliably trio a 40 prob not duo tho
From what I see, theres a few people actually duo havoc 40 because those runs are hour+. The difference between duo or trio is p big
My biggest problem is only having a few attempts to run the havoc mission before demotion
theirs also technically solo hav 40 runs but none that i can think of off the top of my head that arent speedruns that break spawns
Solo havoc 40 is easier than duo, you just run circles and move on to the next area. Duo you gotta kill the hordes
How hard is havoc 1-25 or whatever the penance is you have to hit? Should I get more familiar with aurics first before starting havic?
You should get familiar with auric damnation shock troop gauntlet. Depending on your party size, Havoc 1 to 25 will be easy or a pain
1-25 is relatively easy
that said, play auric more
hi shoctroop
havoc 25s are harder than auric maelstroms by a lot if ur not used to havoc
the gunners and lower toughness and health is a big change
25+ is big boy mode
35+ is
thats where it kinda caps out
hardest part of havoc is finding good teamates
true level + who are you mods are vital if you are public Qing
they either cheesed it or stack books and bubbles like a bunch of dumbasses
yea
accept people withtrue survivor titles into ur games and pray they knowhow to play the game
I cant get past havoc 20 
just play more and practice
I feel like it's my perk build and a lil bit of teammates both being suboptimal
whats ur build?
Uhh not on darktide but i think i picked up one from the pinned document?
(After i tried cooking up my own build)
well what do u run
are you running shout?
man i hate shout lmao
yes its op
yea kinda
Yeah
but tbf u dont get much options on vet
Yeah havoc can feel like quite a jump. I suggest getting comfortable with auric damnation first
I like AoE CC and golden toughness and vet shouting
that's a good start. it will not make you any better at the game, but it can help you support the team
if u can do auric maelstrosm comfortably ull be able to do havoc 25s with relative ease after playing a couple havocs
if you want to get better, melee more and go without shout
yea dont rely on gold toughness
watch ur positioning is probably more important tahn anything
As much as builds online are helpful, it's important to understand how to make a build that works for your playstyle
Happy to help! Make sure to take your time, don't be afraid to experiment
And u gotta realize when its ur teamates faults or when its ur own
Its blurry if ur not experienced at the game
Thanks for all the advice regarding auric and havoc. I'll familiarize myself a lot more with auric first before diving into havoc
and also that alot of the "Meta" Builds either require thorough understanding of the game OR have very specific class pairing it goes with
Id disagree because meta builds are just whatever is the easiest
Doesnt take much understanding to stack books and shout and bubble smite psyker
u can just tank everything with constant gold toughness
guess it depends on the build and you can be downed instantly with gold with emprehs fadin light 2. positioning and timing is still required
U cant be instantly downed with gold toughness though
U can tank a crusher overhead or a sniper or gunners for quite a bit
Why do builds using weapon specialist to get free reloads use revolver and not a bolt gun/pistol a lot of times? Arent they more powerful and slower reaload doesn't matter?
Easy≠Good
I agree
Plasma shout vet is easy to use but good luck clutching a game solo when everyone is drad
Dead
Easy when the whole team is alive
agreed kindred
im so tired of everyone running the same build
No golden toighness game is refreshing
Knife Plasma Shout or DS replacing knife is the most cookie cutter shit possible cause you can EASILY get out of any scenario the game throws at you
listen i use shout to fuel my DB shovel needs
It’s why I avidly refuse to use Plasma
plasma is boring
Shovel gang
I got good with the Vigilant Recoil patterns so I can actually use them and compete with plasma users
Whats vigilant recoil
nah u can
boltpistol works for WS
boltgun's draw speed is generally too slow to take full advantage
anything that's not "single hit instance" but still does super high dmg
yea
Not like mister e running out to melee 10 gunners and yell for his team to book for him
me rushing 15 shotgunners and killing them all faster than my team can react
mind you have i have a fucking shovel
i am memeing my way through aurics right now
Shovel good
What that
is duelling sword good?
Too
its too good?
Ohhh draw speed right, thank you
IMO depends on how you use it, it’s not great at horde clearing but in terms of pulling it out to go “oh shit” and poke an elite or special in the face it’s good
sapper shovel mk1
maniac flak
uncanny decimator
doubel barrel shotgun
flak (i dont have a second perk LOL but im making it maniac)
flechette man-stopper
whats the best horde clearing?
Wow cool
rashad
combat axe III
MK 1 Sapper shovel imo, heavies on that thing either kill what you hit or knock it over most of the time
Combo I like to use is H1 -> H2 -> L
Plus the poke(special) on that thing staggers even crushers if hit in the head
Sorry for the ping but i forgot to ask, what difficulty do you run that build on usually?
auric damn
and auric mael
I see, thanks
Will definitely be trying this out
Is brutal momentum still good on the rashad?
Yea it’s still the best thing to take on it
always best in slot
replace that DS crutch with the rashad crutch 
is there a good melee class build for veterans?
i know they arent much of a melee based class but.. yk..
nah vet can be very heavily melee based
veteran has some of the best melee perks what
they're good at both melee and ranged combat
you'll want WS keystone and bottom right perks
is there a good melee build anyone uses?
this one is havoc axe
no shredders killing myself
ty!!
Does vet get toughness on ranged kills as a base for class? Or just melee 5%
Then out for blood adds additional 5%? But only for melee or does it add to ranged as well?
melee for 5%
out for blood gives +5% to all kills so melee becomes 10%
yes its all kills
So 10% for melee and 5% for ranged then?
Since the class shouldn’t get toughness on ranged kills as a base right?
no
with O4B
melee 10%
ranged 5%
explosive 5%
DOT 5%
Thanks!
What's the deal with vet players using their gun 80% of the time and never ever picking up ammo unless they are down to their last mag?
It's infuriating.
no idea warly
whats a good recon/long range weapon for veteran?
running a melee build
and idk if i should use
a boltgun
recon lasgun
stub revolver
For sniping specials?
I like using the shotgun that can load slugs. It's the closest thing this game has to Kruber's handgun.
It falls off a bit on higher difficulties but it does a lot of knock back helping you to close the gap even if it doesn't kill in one hit.
It can knock Ogryns on their ass like it's nothing.
The laspistol is also handy for keeping mobile and dealing with range.
if you're playing a melee build you generally want a secondary with quick draw
like bistol, revolver or laspis
nice
Is it just me or is veteran a bit squishy?
Are you using the shout ability or something else
Even without it vet doesn’t feel that light to me I can frontline just fine
Maybe I'm just bad
What’s killing uou
Mostly zerkers
What weapons are you using
Against a horde of them I usually prefer to stagger or shoot them before they can get to me
If it’s just one you can simply dodge each attack and hit back
Uhh
Chain sword and combat shotgun
(Don't have exact build on me)
1 zerk is easy.
4+ rushing me is not good
all vets use melee weapons
I think chainsword has enough stagger to handle the ragers I just forgot what it needs
I would probably just whip out the shotgun and shoot two of them down ngl
I'm trying a combat shotgun build
What ability are you using
Nope
i dont rly use shotguns other than the DB so I dont remember which one is good
Wallahi
What ever gives me toughness but if my ability is up it knocks them down and I'm fine
If it's not up i die
That should be a really spammy ability though
i just think shotguns are objectify worse than BAG or IAG in what you want to do with them
I'm starting to think it's the fact I'm playing wrong
Did you take the talent that gives you cooldown reduction when you kill a special
DB is diff tho because of manstopper
u can use this website if you want to show us your build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
I'll post it when I get home
Weird question
Are gun builds not common for vet?
I just see a lot of people mostly using melee
That's just my personal experience in game
Guns are common for vet, but turns out you have a melee weapon to use to kill things
That uh
Don't use ammo

I just see a lot of people mostly using there melee weapons
That's why I asked
Vet is a hybrid class not a range class
Yeah the melee weapon often are used as horde clears
if you want to play a range class, play Psyker
Only the special activated attacks can stagger ragers out of their combo and it’s single target only
Chainsword is really one dimensional on veteran
Funni wizard with no ammo economy

How exactly important is the split between charge rate and thermal resist on plasma?
I'm seeing a guide say 69TR and 71CR, and I got one that's like 72TR and 68CR. Do I keep spamming, or is that good?
the reason why 69/71 is the "perfect roll" is because is because the 69% TR is the breakpoint between being able to fire an extra shot before overheating
So 72% passes the breakpoint and only costs me a small fraction of time on each shot.
yes, but then u fuck over charge rate
charge rate is how fast you can fire the gun
it's up to u, but i personally just dump the TR to 60 because I dont want to waste my sanity getting the perfect roll
CR is better than TR except for the breakpoint
I dont really have overheating problems with the PG
so i dont really care about the extra shot
Maybe 70/70 is fine
I think that's a pretty solid luck roll considering how specific it is.
u can do whatever you want, im just saying why that is the "perfect roll"
the PG is such an overpowered weapon tho that it really doesn't matter
It’s usable
Just a small % away from perfect
Well, it's probably an upgrade over what I had. It was great when we couldn't force perfect outcomes, but now that we can, it might be time to throw some coin at it.
It’s more like 68.?%
I’m not sure where that decimal is so the safe bet is 69%
this is good right?
Near perfect imo, yeah.
Veterans the most tanky by defsult aside from ogryn
LMFAO
😅
it's ogre. but if you pray maybe it'll drift to be perfect
not sure it's worth empowering for that slim chance tho
imagine it's gonna bug it into 69% and 71%
mine went from 69 71 to 71 69. so it's possible
😭
Did they still not change how the plasma gun charge stat being best at around 72?
Or was it 71? I forgor
classic
@tired egret
Okay, that answers my question, lmao XD
chad sacrificing his ping notifications so people know what the best plasma roll is
this when
never
They fixed it affecting damage, but it’s best at that spot for a different reason
What weapon do you all use for adept assassin
I didn’t notice the part where the headshot had to be a crit
weapon spec melee can have like 40%+ crit chance. I happened to enjoy pretending to be a zealot and running a knife (before the new knife came out). It already has a high crit rate, and its heavy attack just chops right down on the head. You could also just do something like a dueling sword. It has less crit chance, but you're also always aiming for heads with it, so you'll get progress naturally.
You can also do a ranged route. Kill something in melee, swap to revolver, and with weapon spec, you'll likely have 100% crit chance. You can put surgical on it and just wait to assure the crit chance. Doing 250 headshots deliberately, one at a time, sounds crappy. But if you just run the spec and play it legitimately (weapon swapping constantly) you'll get it real fast.
I just so happen to only like weapon spec vet, so it happened really naturally.
guys i think i bricked my plasma 😔
1% isnt going to kill you
the breakpoints!!!
how about you go breakpoint some bitches
That's just another slop shop possibility
revolver
any melee as long as u have reciprocity + desperado
i wasnt always 100% sure about it before but today i am a smoke grenade believer and preacher
i just threw it at my feet in front of several gunners while i was out of stamina and toughness and they all stopped shooting and ran to cover and i was able to revive two teammates
it also blocks snipers
(confuse dogs and flamers as well)
remember when smoke didn't block snipers? 
(Tox gas has the same concealing properties of Smokes)
6681 damage taken (i noobed it up with 645 damage taken)
How good is this build? Opinions? Making a vet
Although I was thinking of going right path at start instead
id get rid of close quarters killzone and just pick up weapon spec tbh
also instead of exploit weakness the 25 toughness node
All right
What about my idea to go down right path instead at the very start for O4B?
drop both exploit weakness and trench fighter drill, get 25 toughness and either rending or BID in the middle
drop CQKZ for 5% crit chance
swap maniac to flak on recon lasgu
Yeah I already run flak on lasgun
duelling sword has very little benefit from the atk speed increase on veteran
u mean talents?
talents

