#veteran-class

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tall torrent
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Flak + unarmored
Rising heat
Gets hot

shut roost
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I got one from the requisitorium thing

shut roost
tall torrent
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What’s carapace for

wanton dawn
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For carapace duh'

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You can consider carapace for no ammo maelstrom. Otherwise eh

shut roost
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what enemies are unyielding?

wanton dawn
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boss, reaper, bulwark

coarse wolf
tall torrent
wanton dawn
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"I need this ammo more tha you are"

vernal harbor
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you guys ever kinda zone out and realize you’re really doing way too much ranged to the point of peaking cover and stuff

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then you realize like a zealot has been following you observing you the whole time for some reason

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this happens a lot and I feel like I’m being judged Sitgryn

warm bolt
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Usually it's the opposite for me

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I get way into melee, run into a wall of gunners and while down see an ogryn sorta judging me Sitgryn

vernal harbor
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an ogryn whos also downed next to you lmao

warm bolt
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Lmao KEKW_ogryn

wanton dawn
narrow frost
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I follow behind pubs just to watch

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its funny

wanton dawn
narrow frost
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I do 0 damage those games

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pacifist runs

wanton dawn
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Idk, i feel like I'd do the bare minimum to survive

narrow frost
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fair

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to each their own

wanton dawn
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and walk a lot

winter grove
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Use guns vs horde

vernal harbor
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try holding a crouch and taking careful semi shots and see the reaction you get

tough tiger
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Seeing a vet crouch and shoot is a rare sight in this game

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Warrants observation tbh

proven garden
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Got a sore throat trying to yell out a explanation over them

winter grove
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Fuck you that's how I used ilasgun first 100 hours

wanton dawn
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I see the problem

faint beacon
narrow frost
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If you push a boss into a wall it will die

warm bolt
faint beacon
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That’s fucking hilarious

narrow frost
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That boss is really easy to since the weak spot makes it stagger

faint beacon
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Footknight or Grail

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That’s my question

warm bolt
faint beacon
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Cause I quickly picked up enjoying Merc and FK

narrow frost
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GK is going to feel the best with all the damage bonuses

warm bolt
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But also he's bretonnian

faint beacon
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Me when I stagger enemies and magically get a shit ton of Temp HP

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It’s probably why I’m liking Merc and FK

narrow frost
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Shield with stagger temp is broken

faint beacon
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The temp HP is ludicrous

narrow frost
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There is no limit to shield stagger for temp

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That's why

warm bolt
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The merc is the default one right?

faint beacon
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Yes

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Merc, Huntsman, Footknight, and Grailknight

warm bolt
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Ah aight

faint beacon
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Also the bots are fucking hilarious with their reaction speeds

warm bolt
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kinda wish i was good enough to complete the quest for grail knight's special weapon Sitgryn

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Think im gonna stick with merc this time, he still has a gun, right?

faint beacon
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Yes

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Merc is actually doing damage and killing hordes

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Plus VOC basically

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As your ability

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Then you have Footknight who’s like Shield Ogryn with Bullrush except all you’re really doing is stagger control

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Easy Temp HP

narrow frost
tropic halo
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Footknight my beloved

narrow frost
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Bardins bot solos chaos pats and bosses

warm bolt
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Lore accurate dawi

warm bolt
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Might try the footknight first then

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or battle priest Saltzpyre

verbal burrow
faint beacon
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Look from watching you play unchained I’m considering trying that out for Sienna cause the idea of being a walking IED

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is the funniest shit ever

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Unchained Sienna Gameplay:

narrow frost
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The way I played was not most optimal

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I was goofing with knife

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Speed

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But yes

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Unchained is amazing

faint beacon
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It’s flail with unchained ain’t it

narrow frost
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I think most melee work on unchained

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With her power and attack speed increase

austere mica
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I run mace

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Nice little bonk stick

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Got one of the silliest legendary names/lore too

narrow frost
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I usually run scythe

proven garden
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knife has insane movetech in both tide games inshallah

narrow frost
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Gale saw me zooming

proven garden
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i do pa and two lights to keep my stamina up

proven garden
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pretty sure its better to just do pa light or nothing but pa for speed but i cant remember anymore

verbal burrow
proven garden
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what

narrow frost
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It's very viable

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I run it all the time in cata deeds

verbal burrow
proven garden
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i dont understand what you are saying

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dumb it down for me

verbal burrow
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You said, knife has insane move tech in both games, but only if/when god wills it

proven garden
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oh the joke flew over my head

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gg

verbal burrow
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I prefer my cutting implements to just do the same thing every time regardless of that conditional variable

verbal burrow
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Depends on class

warm bolt
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Nah you still gotta pray

verbal burrow
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For revolushuhuun

warm bolt
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Kruebert/Saltzpyre to Sigmar
The dwarf to the ancestors and probably Valaya specifically
Wood elf to idrk the tree
The witch to Sigmar as well but like less fervently

verbal burrow
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Holy sugmar

warm bolt
faint beacon
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Will forever be the funniest shit ever

tall torrent
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I’m genuinely considering increasing FOV in DT now but idk how much it’ll hit performance

narrow frost
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He added me on steam

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Right after that

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We need to play again

faint beacon
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LMAO

narrow frost
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We were babysitting him

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Seems like his 1st character

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Plus he was on controller

faint beacon
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Look I jumped up to champion so we can partially play the game now

narrow frost
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Nice

proven garden
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or do you mean pc player with a controller

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wallahi

rustic beacon
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Vermintide is unfortunately ruined on console because of that. There are like 20 active lobbies on ps with 1 or 2 being cata

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The absence of crossplay I mean

native wagon
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Is it me or does plasma gun just feels so slow, like each shot being charged before I finish charging my team will kill the enemy sometimes, does it improve with weapon level?

warm bolt
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Wait are you only shooting charged shots?

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What are your blessings while we're at it?

native wagon
warm bolt
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Oh

native wagon
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I assume on full 60 it will be like 0.5

warm bolt
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Yeah it gets better from what i got

native wagon
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Which is also kinda slow?

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I was debating between plasma gun and revolver and as much as I love how little I have to reload compared to revolver that only gets one bullet for passive

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So far the best build I liked was Recon Lasgun with burn dots, but it can get stale holding LMB

warm bolt
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Havent tried the revolver but plasma does feel good overall

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Tbf i also have blaze away blessing which gives more fire rate if you spam left click

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And to help with heating there's optimised cooling, my beloved

native wagon
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I saw a revolver build without weapon specialist, Idk how that guy gets over a million damage, but downtime with reloads was killing me

visual badge
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gotta love how shredder autopistol is so bad that the only usage according to hammer of the emperor, is to just use it to supress enemies

grand perch
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You want 71 charge

latent parcel
wanton dawn
wanton dawn
vernal trench
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Maffcrime

wanton dawn
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The crime is the build I'll bring

wanton dawn
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I think someone is calling you out

vernal trench
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fuck

latent parcel
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iron mike at it again

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smh

vernal trench
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why that guy gotta call meout like that

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i sure love sucking stuff tho

latent parcel
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you getting on?

vernal trench
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striek 69

latent parcel
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i aint joining no strike team

vernal trench
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fuck

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why u gotta be so gay dude

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imma get todd injhere

latent parcel
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you and todd can talk to each other

vernal trench
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man ur so hateful today

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u and maff be making out in ur dms

wanton dawn
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No dm actually, I just use vet-chat

latent parcel
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^

vernal trench
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damn thats hot

peak venture
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I feel dumb for asking. But can someone explain to me how to tell if the stats i have on weapons are good or trash? I just got the game 2 days ago and I'll be honest I'm a little lost.

soft trellis
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Generally speaking you want to dump mobility/defences/collateral

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and by dump that means have that stat be 60% at the max rating of 500

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times this varies are for something like the flamer, where you dump the damage or mobility stat, the plasma gun which you want iirc 71% charge rate and 69% thermal resist, and there are a few more like dumping warp resist on psyker weapons

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the reason mobility is generally dumped is because, at the end of the day, it is just a slight sprint speed increase and 2% dodge distance

peak venture
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Ok, so if let's say damage is 64/80 then that means when it's fully upgraded it'll have a damage of 80. I'd just have to upgrade the weapons? If so that is way simpler than I was thinking in my head lol

soft trellis
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the left number is current stats, the right number is maxed out stats

peak venture
soft trellis
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Yep

unreal nova
soft trellis
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I believe it happens... but it hasn't happened to me yet

unreal nova
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If you knew how many weapons she borked for me already...

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I could basically buy like 8 mil dockets of cosmetics instead of gambling more base to try again.

loud belfry
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she broke a perfect plasma gun for me, turned it to 71thermal69charge when it should be 69t71c

unreal nova
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3 bolt pistols, a shotgun, half the melees on my vet. And I don't even want to gamble plasma because of it.

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Oh, she also broke my first purga.

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Took away burn to dump into warp resist.

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Absolutely horrible.

soft trellis
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I... think I actually might have seen it happen once... but she fixed my weapon instead of breaking it... but that was near the start of mastery

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it was gonna be like 61% 79%

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but it was such a minor change I didn't really notice

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cause adhd

loud belfry
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finally something good out of all this pain

soft trellis
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Every other weapon has ended with the right stats

unreal nova
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I'm autistic. Is why this drives me up a wall. OCD does not help.

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Is why rolling plasma will kill me mentally some day.

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Is the only way to explain the feelings and rage.

peak venture
unreal nova
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So say your mobility dump sword now has 61-65 and something else is 79-75.

loud belfry
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yeah the stats drift from what they were said to be at first. it's seemingly unpredictable in terms of when it'll happen and what effect it'll have

peak venture
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That sounds like it suckssssss

unreal nova
peak venture
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Oh that would suck with my revolver lol.

unreal nova
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12 to 13 bullets in clip.

peak venture
unreal nova
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I was too poor to reroll a new one back then so used it.

flat umbra
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Can anyone help me get the on overwatch penance?

soft trellis
soft trellis
# unreal nova Yes.

Sweet, that gives me 1 more shot I will miss can miss have missed should miss Ah, fuck this I give up

unreal nova
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XD

blissful solstice
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Hey guys quick question, what is more viable on high level missions? The bolt gun or the revolver?

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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Run exe plasma stance /j

blissful solstice
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Yeah specifically maelstroms and havocs

stoic thorn
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I love missing almost every fucking breakpoint

blissful solstice
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The super hard

blissful solstice
soft trellis
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I mean... for the most part if you are good enough you can run anything outside of havoc, afaik

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idk what is better for maelstroms, tho, between the 2

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one gives better sniping, one gives better magdumping between the revolver and bolter

stoic thorn
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Another day another brick-iq redditor sniper suggestion

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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"Add a longlas!!!"

It's called the infantry lasgun on the highest damage mark

stoic thorn
soft trellis
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Ah

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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I'm just angry because dumb people keep flooding my feed with longlas begging

soft trellis
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The biggest thing I want is a melta gun

stoic thorn
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Would you mind it being an ogryn weapon

soft trellis
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A melta is a melta

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as long as it's good, idc lol

stoic thorn
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So yknow like the Leman russ demolishers

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We see

loud belfry
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hey whats up guys

when do yall think they're gonna add a longlas

stoic thorn
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Please kill yourself

loud belfry
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MODS?

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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Mfs on reddit will be like "you believe in Infantry Las? That pales in effectiveness to my weapon idea, longlas" and then proceed to fucking die with the longlas because tunnel visioned horde coming from the back

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Who knows

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Wherever you can't see is probably 100 poxwalkers

soft trellis
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I love how they can just spawn behind you mid swing attack

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I can't tell you how many perfect parries I've gotten off of them, it has happened so many times

warm bolt
warm bolt
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Damn a class that specialises in gun, in only we had one

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Truly would be a revolutionary addition

wanton dawn
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I want longlas so I can better snipe my mate out of bound with barrel precision shot

warm bolt
frank ether
warm bolt
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Virgin "i want longlas cause sniper pewpew!"
Vs
Chad "longlas will make it easier to teamkill with barrels"

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chadgryn <--- dis u?

soft trellis
warm bolt
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Exactly whatthefuck_heresy

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Same with skitarii although ig he could get some support branch

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Which would also make support vet irrelevant

wanton dawn
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Oh man, I need to watch immediately

vernal trench
wanton dawn
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Uwu is now accepted in scrabble KEKW_ogryn

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Owo is also accepted Hestia_WTF

stoic thorn
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Skitarii on a prison ship would be

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Nigh impossible if they were a prisoner

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Their handlers would probably just fucking servitorise or recycle them

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Ratlings are too slippery to even get caught

warm bolt
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But also like no dice adeptus mechanicus would let them

stoic thorn
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Give ogryn more weapons

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Or at least

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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2nd mark of the slabshield

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Brute shield baby

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Brute shield is basically the slabshield

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But better

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Its basically a fucking frontal forcefield

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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More of a voidshield from the bosses

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Normal PVP-game shield type shit

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Ngl I don't think Ogryn can get a Multimelta

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I bet those things are really delicate

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A heavy bolter though

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The astartes can just swing em without damaging them

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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Clunk

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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Also an assault cannon would be funny

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Heavy stubbers for slow firing

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Twin stubbers as the middle child

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And assault cannon for the truly pissing bullets

stoic thorn
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Also it would be funny as hell to see heretics get flung around by the assault cannon revving it's barrel

soft trellis
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did someone say cannon?

supple laurel
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dump stat for helbore is charge rate right?

stoic thorn
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I'm surprised we aren't seeing any other LM variants in our missions

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I'd kill to see a LM Exterminator bust through a wall and start pissing out autocannon rounds into armoured heretics

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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Yes

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But for ogryn

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That's for the terminators

supple laurel
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oh nvm its stability FUCK

stoic thorn
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I believe 30k astartes had handheld versions of these

soft trellis
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wait... the longlas is literally just a sniper rifle version of a lasgun...?

stoic thorn
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Like normal miniguns

soft trellis
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BORING

stoic thorn
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Check the snipers longlas

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It's that

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Honestly it would go so hard to see a functioning LM to aid us

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Heretic armour?

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Demolisher bursts through a wall and rams itself straight into the armour

vernal trench
stoic thorn
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Firing the demolisher cannon and multi meltas to clear the path

supple laurel
vernal trench
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Yea so dump it

stoic thorn
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Lmao

vernal trench
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duh

supple laurel
vernal trench
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Just switcht o melee

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To run

stoic thorn
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I'd take a mission where we went to go rescue a hellhammer

vernal trench
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Wat dat

pseudo fiber
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Stability

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It's Stability.

stoic thorn
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One of 7

pseudo fiber
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The baneblade!

vernal trench
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Idk what that is also

stoic thorn
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It's basically the Baneblade but exchanges out the Baneblade cannon for an eradicator cannon

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It's basically the urban combat version of the baneblade

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Perfect for the war

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However this implies there's an armoured regiment here

vernal trench
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Idk what banbladd is

stoic thorn
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Or Atoma is making their own

vernal trench
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Im atoma

stoic thorn
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The BANEBLADE

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With its ELEVEN (twelve, stubber wasn't really on the baneblade in DoW or smth atp) BARRELS OF HELL

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And it's cousin the hellhammer

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Or rather the brother tbf

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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Everyone else in the baneblade family is like

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Fucked up

crimson pebble
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riveted armor in the 41st millenia is definitely a choice

stoic thorn
soft trellis
stoic thorn
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An emperor class titan would just fucking destroy the place

soft trellis
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Tru

stoic thorn
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But it would be funny if a moebian armoured regiment came in

warm bolt
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Imagine if ogryn could carry a chimera on his back though

soft trellis
warm bolt
stoic thorn
stoic thorn
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But thay ogryn was

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Nork deddog

warm bolt
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That comissar got to retire

stoic thorn
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Ogryns are pretty claustrophobic

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Iirc

soft trellis
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can you blame them? They can't fit into small places

stoic thorn
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It's a miracle ours can ride valkyries everyday

soft trellis
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Like... if you put me in an air vent... I'd be claustrophobic as well, and I don't suffer from that lol

warm bolt
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There used to be a rule on the tabletop where ogryns couldnt enter a chimera without a comissar

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Also they puke

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A LOT there

soft trellis
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with les corruption?

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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It would be funny if dukane just acted a lot more friendly toward ogryns

warm bolt
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New ogryn keystone - projectile vomit

soft trellis
stoic thorn
crimson pebble
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one of the 53rd guards has a line about an ogryn repeatedly starring at them and the other one telling them to not make eye contact or something

stoic thorn
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I really want to see a moebian armoured regiment get requisitioned

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In the future

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Once the 53rds spotlight fades

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So we can see more LM tank variants

soft trellis
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inb4 we get even more crushers because of it

stoic thorn
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And whatever the hell kind of baneblade they run

crimson pebble
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we still dont have a dreg equivalent to crushers and maulers tbh

dry cloak
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leman russ tank are more possible

terse idol
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BANEBLAAADEE

warm bolt
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Imagine just seeing THIS

dry cloak
warm bolt
stoic thorn
warm bolt
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And a line about extra rashuns

dry cloak
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but dreg sniper and mauler would be nice

terse idol
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Well, if the total apocalypse mod told me anything... bane blades are HUUUUUUGE

soft trellis
warm bolt
terse idol
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Ultra heavy tanks

soft trellis
stoic thorn
warm bolt
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Called it fortress of arrogance

soft trellis
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I don't think anyway

warm bolt
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TECHNICALLY it is baneblade chassis

stoic thorn
terse idol
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Looks like a rhino?

soft trellis
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I just typed in warhammer 40k tank

terse idol
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Or a chaos aligned rhino

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Oh

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Land raiderr

terse idol
stoic thorn
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That's specifically the LM Punisher

stoic thorn
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From the game shootas blood and teef

warm bolt
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Oh right

soft trellis
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What in the fuck...?

warm bolt
terse idol
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Iirc only 1 game has a baneblade or maybe 2, in dow2

stoic thorn
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Blood raven BREAKING IT DOWN???

terse idol
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And then the dow1 total apocalypse mod had one

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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SM2 does show a baneblade

warm bolt
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You run away from it in 1 campaign mission

terse idol
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Oh yeah!

soft trellis
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oh and btw

stoic thorn
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There's a scene where Titus walks by a cadian giving a speech ontop of a Baneblade

stoic thorn
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It's massive

warm bolt
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"Sah, im really hungry now sah"

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staregryn starts getting closer

stoic thorn
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But still I'd kill to see an LM in action

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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A punisher in the distance mowing down heretics

warm bolt
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What about demolisher whatthefuck_heresy

stoic thorn
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We see enough of them

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But again

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If we encounter heretic armour

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We know who to call

soft trellis
warm bolt
stoic thorn
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A demolisher would just wipe any armour the heretics have

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MM + Demolisher cannon

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Boom

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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If they have a barely functioning LM, now they dont

terse idol
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An LM punisher is anti-infantry?
I thought it was AA... but I guess any AA cannon can be anti-infantey if you aim it low enough

stoic thorn
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Such is the demolisher

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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On a tank

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AA is handled by the hydra batteries

terse idol
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Oh

stoic thorn
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You see their cannons as the skyfires iirc

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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Or a smaller version of their cannons

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Hydra flak batteries

warm bolt
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Oh yeah actually

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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I'd do with a Hellhound appearance

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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But it would be like

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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Funny as shit

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To watch as a Rogal Dorn BT try to cross a bridhe

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And the bridge collapses

soft trellis
stoic thorn
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Yeah the hellhound is the weaponised version of a Chimera

soft trellis
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googling stuff pays off 1% of the time

stoic thorn
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If it has any consolation

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They can be equipped with a chem cannon

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Idk what it exactly does

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But I think it's either gassing them or spraying acid

warm bolt
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iirc it's acid

stoic thorn
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Cool

warm bolt
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Like in command and conquer generals

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Anthrax cannon

soft trellis
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darktide confirmed

warm bolt
stoic thorn
warm bolt
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A lascannon, fire deck, heavy stubber and a hunter-killer missile

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Also bolter

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Okay fair

soft trellis
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wait literally darktide confirmed lol

stoic thorn
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Whay

soft trellis
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We got our own lore segment

stoic thorn
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What

stoic thorn
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It's a multi laser

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Which is basically a las machine gun I think

warm bolt
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Oh Sitgryn

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And i even have the bloody thing on my shelf, the shame

stoic thorn
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A hellhound has a flamer, chem cannon and melta cannon

stoic thorn
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Plus multi lasers arent

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Brought up too much

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They're not as popular as their other siblings

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Only other mfs with it are the Sentinels

warm bolt
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Wait im positive sentinels actually get a lascannon

stoic thorn
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Yes

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But sentinels have the multi laser too

warm bolt
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Ooooh loregryn

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Dont remember it as an option on mine

stoic thorn
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Holy shit a multi laser would go hard

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Nvm

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It's a big thing

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God when will we get the hellguns

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I don't think we will

warm bolt
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Sitgryn Yeah same

stoic thorn
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Even the heretics hotshot volley guns are substandard

warm bolt
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As much as i hope for like even a hotshot

warm bolt
stoic thorn
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Eh look at their backpacks

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It needs an entire cooling fan system it seems

warm bolt
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Yeah it does

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Not cooling, iirc it's ammo

stoic thorn
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Meanwhile kasrkin and scions can just do it out of a hellgun pack

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Iirc you can get the volley gun wires fried by firing for too long

warm bolt
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Actually thinking about stuff like this

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How would FS deal with power fists?

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Cause you cant take guns that arent pistols with it even by logic alone

stoic thorn
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Power sword but single target

hearty panther
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i cant speak for fatshark but, for me, rectally

stoic thorn
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Fuck it

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We are giving the ogryns

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Aggressor style power fist

stoic thorn
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TWO powerfists

warm bolt
warm bolt
stoic thorn
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And STUBBERS TAPED BELOW

stoic thorn
#

Those are aggressor style

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You don't see any fucker with 2 power fists

warm bolt
#

Give ogryn this

stoic thorn
#

Sorry we lost the stc

#

-gw, probably

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I'm pretty sure you can use weapons with the power fist

warm bolt
#

Yeah i think they actually did in-lore Sitgryn

stoic thorn
#

If you're experienced enough

warm bolt
#

But otherwise the hand wouldnt fit

stoic thorn
#

But I am drawing examples from astartes

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I think you just

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Remove the gauntlet

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And it's a pretty lengthy swap

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If it's a one handed ranged weapon it's pretty fast

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But two handed ones will need to remove the power fist to use it

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Sounds like a fair trade?

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I'd heavily fw the Jarran Kell loadout

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A power fist and a power sword

warm bolt
#

It sounds based but

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I wanna see it

stoic thorn
#

The jarran kell loadout?

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Guy holding up the cadian colours

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To the left of Creed

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That's Jarran Kell

warm bolt
#

OH

stoic thorn
#

Look closely enough and you can barely make out his powerfist on the colours

warm bolt
#

OOOOH IT'S THE MAN HOW COULD I FORGET

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I even have the book and stuff

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It'd be so sick

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PS for hordes and PF for single target damage

stoic thorn
#

CREEEEEEEEEED

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Idk if cadian vet is referring to Ursakar or Ursula

warm bolt
#

You know

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Good point actually

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I think it's Ursakar?

stoic thorn
#

Probablt ursakar

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Man's got a lot of respect

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Did the cadian vet actually fight on cadia

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I mean he did say

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He watched his whole world burn before his eyes

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In the character maker menu

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Implying he evacuated from cadia as it blew up

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A troubling lack of him saying cadia stands though

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Cadia stands as a VoC line would go hard

warm bolt
#

loregryn You know, an even better point

stoic thorn
#

Considering what VoC does

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Beef up your teammates

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Make them survive linger

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Making them stand

warm bolt
soft trellis
warm bolt
#

As well as add vostroyans PLEASE NOT EVEN GW RECOGNIZES THEM ANYMORE

stoic thorn
#

Honestly I'd take the talent that makes voc revive people

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If they added specific voicelines that triggered when that talent is invoked

soft trellis
#

if I had extra talents I'd consider it, but, reducing the aoe is a bit rough

warm bolt
#

Like in payday

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"GET BACK ON YA KARKING FEET SOLDIER!"

stoic thorn
#

"CADIA STANDS and so should you"

warm bolt
#

KEKW_ogryn The last part should be said in the calmest voice

stoic thorn
#

Yeah

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Bonus points if there's even more specific lines for ogryn

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"CADIA STANDS

Take your time, big man"

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Holy shit I need this as a voiceline

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For when someone gets downed

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Or shit a loose cannon would say to a downed cadian vet

warm bolt
#

He would

stoic thorn
#

One way ticket to being shot dead

orchid adder
#

is this a bug?

loud belfry
#

damn, the only party on the party finder is someone i have blocked lol. what a world

tropic halo
#

Gold moebian mask staregryn

hollow ibex
orchid adder
#

Talking about the level but both are true

hollow ibex
#

no mods?

quartz nymph
#

Put the karkin' boot in

orchid adder
#

Cosmetic are mods, but my level shouldnt be messed w a mod

hollow ibex
#

the only thing i can think of is displaying havoc level instead of your trust level

orchid adder
#

I duo up havoc 20, shouldnt be a problem

dry cloak
#

i broke my fear of playing havoc

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but i will stay under 25

unreal nova
orchid adder
#

Havoc is pretty easy unless youre a duo then it's a sweat fest

austere mica
#

"Havoc is pretty easy until you play it with half a team"

orchid adder
#

"And you can't change bots or join other teams"

warm bolt
#

ActUally why cant you change bots, why is it always vets

faint beacon
#

They deny us the Ogryn bot cause they know it would be too powerful

orchid adder
#

Why are the bots level 1 in havoc, who knows?

warm bolt
#

I guess they wouldnt get skills anyways but also like

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Kinda bugs you y'know

warm bolt
#

Inb4 speedrun zealot bot

orchid adder
#

Dunno why they didn't implement weave like bots, they bug out 60% of the time but least they can have skills

quartz nymph
#

"Ohohoho we ain't done yet!"

vernal trench
#

true level does display the highest clearance level u have in havoc

barren nimbus
#

Why is bro talking like he’s the lord of havoc

orchid adder
orchid adder
#

Also, true pain was duo weave 30... took a week or two off my lifespan

vernal trench
#

has bro even done a 40 yet

coarse wolf
orchid adder
#

I mean if it's easy, you should try it out. 0 space for anything and if your partner dies, it's pretty much gg cause your bots already dead. Not impossible but runs are over 40 mins long

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Wasn't nearly impossible as weave 30, but I digress

crimson pebble
#

i see duo 40s take place nearly daily

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i could probably reliably trio a 40 prob not duo tho

orchid adder
#

From what I see, theres a few people actually duo havoc 40 because those runs are hour+. The difference between duo or trio is p big

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My biggest problem is only having a few attempts to run the havoc mission before demotion

crimson pebble
#

theirs also technically solo hav 40 runs but none that i can think of off the top of my head that arent speedruns that break spawns

orchid adder
#

Solo havoc 40 is easier than duo, you just run circles and move on to the next area. Duo you gotta kill the hordes

quartz nymph
#

How hard is havoc 1-25 or whatever the penance is you have to hit? Should I get more familiar with aurics first before starting havic?

crimson pebble
#

yes

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should be familiar w auric regardless imo

orchid adder
sterile garnet
#

that said, play auric more

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hi shoctroop

vernal trench
#

the gunners and lower toughness and health is a big change

sterile garnet
#

25+ is big boy mode

vernal trench
#

35+ is

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thats where it kinda caps out

#

hardest part of havoc is finding good teamates

sterile garnet
#

true level + who are you mods are vital if you are public Qing

vernal trench
#

eh

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the amount of people with true survivor and play dogshit will surprise u

sterile garnet
#

i am well aware

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id still take a chance on the high level, than the low level

vernal trench
#

they either cheesed it or stack books and bubbles like a bunch of dumbasses

vernal trench
#

accept people withtrue survivor titles into ur games and pray they knowhow to play the game

warm bolt
#

I cant get past havoc 20 Sitgryn

vernal trench
#

just play more and practice

warm bolt
#

I feel like it's my perk build and a lil bit of teammates both being suboptimal

vernal trench
#

whats ur build?

warm bolt
#

Uhh not on darktide but i think i picked up one from the pinned document?

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(After i tried cooking up my own build)

vernal trench
#

well what do u run

sterile garnet
#

are you running shout?

vernal trench
#

man i hate shout lmao

sterile garnet
vernal trench
#

yea kinda

warm bolt
vernal trench
#

but tbf u dont get much options on vet

heavy rover
warm bolt
#

I like AoE CC and golden toughness and vet shouting

sterile garnet
# warm bolt Yeah

that's a good start. it will not make you any better at the game, but it can help you support the team

vernal trench
#

if u can do auric maelstrosm comfortably ull be able to do havoc 25s with relative ease after playing a couple havocs

sterile garnet
#

if you want to get better, melee more and go without shout

vernal trench
#

yea dont rely on gold toughness

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watch ur positioning is probably more important tahn anything

heavy rover
#

As much as builds online are helpful, it's important to understand how to make a build that works for your playstyle

warm bolt
#

I see, thanks for the help y'all!

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I will try something tomorrow and see if it works

heavy rover
#

Happy to help! Make sure to take your time, don't be afraid to experiment

vernal trench
#

And u gotta realize when its ur teamates faults or when its ur own

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Its blurry if ur not experienced at the game

quartz nymph
#

Thanks for all the advice regarding auric and havoc. I'll familiarize myself a lot more with auric first before diving into havoc

vernal trench
#

U can do low 10-20 havocs as well

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Theyre pretty easy

deft relic
vernal trench
#

Id disagree because meta builds are just whatever is the easiest

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Doesnt take much understanding to stack books and shout and bubble smite psyker

#

u can just tank everything with constant gold toughness

deft relic
vernal trench
#

U can tank a crusher overhead or a sniper or gunners for quite a bit

native wagon
#

Why do builds using weapon specialist to get free reloads use revolver and not a bolt gun/pistol a lot of times? Arent they more powerful and slower reaload doesn't matter?

deft relic
#

Easy≠Good

vernal trench
#

I agree

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Plasma shout vet is easy to use but good luck clutching a game solo when everyone is drad

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Dead

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Easy when the whole team is alive

deft relic
#

agreed kindred

vernal trench
#

im so tired of everyone running the same build

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No golden toighness game is refreshing

faint beacon
#

Knife Plasma Shout or DS replacing knife is the most cookie cutter shit possible cause you can EASILY get out of any scenario the game throws at you

coarse wolf
#

listen i use shout to fuel my DB shovel needs

faint beacon
#

It’s why I avidly refuse to use Plasma

vernal trench
#

I jsut dont like plasma at all

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Never use it

coarse wolf
#

plasma is boring

vernal trench
#

i like my bolter

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I can mag dump and go away

heavy rover
#

Shovel gang

faint beacon
#

I got good with the Vigilant Recoil patterns so I can actually use them and compete with plasma users

vernal trench
#

Whats vigilant recoil

tall torrent
vernal trench
#

5 reapers shooting at u?

tall torrent
#

reapers

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shotgunners even

vernal trench
#

I mean at that point its just a skill issue

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But single attacks cant down u

tall torrent
#

anything that's not "single hit instance" but still does super high dmg

vernal trench
#

yea

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Not like mister e running out to melee 10 gunners and yell for his team to book for him

coarse wolf
#

me rushing 15 shotgunners and killing them all faster than my team can react

#

mind you have i have a fucking shovel

#

i am memeing my way through aurics right now

vernal trench
#

Shovel good

coarse wolf
#

double barrel too :)

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said last night but i yoinked a build and have been abusing it

vernal trench
#

What that

dense lance
#

is duelling sword good?

vernal trench
dense lance
#

its too good?

native wagon
coarse wolf
tall atlas
# dense lance is duelling sword good?

IMO depends on how you use it, it’s not great at horde clearing but in terms of pulling it out to go “oh shit” and poke an elite or special in the face it’s good

coarse wolf
#

sapper shovel mk1
maniac flak

uncanny decimator

#

doubel barrel shotgun
flak (i dont have a second perk LOL but im making it maniac)
flechette man-stopper

dense lance
vernal trench
#

Wow cool

hollow ibex
#

rashad

tall torrent
tall atlas
#

Combo I like to use is H1 -> H2 -> L

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Plus the poke(special) on that thing staggers even crushers if hit in the head

warm bolt
warm bolt
#

thumbsup_ogryn I see, thanks

tall atlas
soft epoch
#

Is brutal momentum still good on the rashad?

faint beacon
narrow frost
#

always best in slot

soft epoch
#

Mmm nice

#

Feels weird playing with something else that's not the DS lol

hollow ibex
#

replace that DS crutch with the rashad crutch KEKW_ogryn

crimson pebble
dense lance
#

is there a good melee class build for veterans?

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i know they arent much of a melee based class but.. yk..

hollow ibex
#

nah vet can be very heavily melee based

crimson pebble
#

veteran has some of the best melee perks what

hollow ibex
#

they're good at both melee and ranged combat

#

you'll want WS keystone and bottom right perks

dense lance
tall torrent
hollow ibex
#

oh

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then post whatever build you have

#

too lazy to make one

tall torrent
crimson pebble
#

no shredders killing myself

dense lance
cloud thunder
#

Does vet get toughness on ranged kills as a base for class? Or just melee 5%

#

Then out for blood adds additional 5%? But only for melee or does it add to ranged as well?

tall torrent
cloud thunder
#

Does it affect ranged at all?

#

Like melee is 10% and ranged is 5% instead of 0?

hearty panther
#

yes its all kills

cloud thunder
#

So 10% for melee and 5% for ranged then?

#

Since the class shouldn’t get toughness on ranged kills as a base right?

hollow ibex
#

frag toughness regen 👌

#

yeah believe so

tall torrent
cloud thunder
#

Thanks!

crystal raven
#

What's the deal with vet players using their gun 80% of the time and never ever picking up ammo unless they are down to their last mag?

#

It's infuriating.

dense lance
#

whats a good recon/long range weapon for veteran?

#

running a melee build

#

and idk if i should use

#

a boltgun

#

recon lasgun

#

stub revolver

crystal raven
#

For sniping specials?

#

I like using the shotgun that can load slugs. It's the closest thing this game has to Kruber's handgun.

#

It falls off a bit on higher difficulties but it does a lot of knock back helping you to close the gap even if it doesn't kill in one hit.

#

It can knock Ogryns on their ass like it's nothing.

#

The laspistol is also handy for keeping mobile and dealing with range.

hollow ibex
#

if you're playing a melee build you generally want a secondary with quick draw

#

like bistol, revolver or laspis

narrow frost
#

@signal breach

#

the stims

signal breach
#

nice

dawn root
#

Is it just me or is veteran a bit squishy?

proven garden
#

Even without it vet doesn’t feel that light to me I can frontline just fine

dawn root
#

Maybe I'm just bad

proven garden
#

What’s killing uou

dawn root
#

Mostly zerkers

proven garden
#

What weapons are you using

#

Against a horde of them I usually prefer to stagger or shoot them before they can get to me

#

If it’s just one you can simply dodge each attack and hit back

dawn root
#

Uhh

Chain sword and combat shotgun

(Don't have exact build on me)

#

1 zerk is easy.

4+ rushing me is not good

orchid hemlock
proven garden
#

I think chainsword has enough stagger to handle the ragers I just forgot what it needs

#

I would probably just whip out the shotgun and shoot two of them down ngl

dawn root
#

I'm trying a combat shotgun build

proven garden
#

What ability are you using

orchid hemlock
#

i dont rly use shotguns other than the DB so I dont remember which one is good

proven garden
dawn root
#

What ever gives me toughness but if my ability is up it knocks them down and I'm fine

If it's not up i die

proven garden
#

That should be a really spammy ability though

orchid hemlock
#

i just think shotguns are objectify worse than BAG or IAG in what you want to do with them

dawn root
#

I'm starting to think it's the fact I'm playing wrong

proven garden
#

Did you take the talent that gives you cooldown reduction when you kill a special

orchid hemlock
#

DB is diff tho because of manstopper

dawn root
#

I don't know

#

I'll need to check when I get homw

orchid hemlock
dawn root
#

I'll post it when I get home

#

Weird question

Are gun builds not common for vet?

I just see a lot of people mostly using melee

#

That's just my personal experience in game

proven garden
#

Nah vet is good at shooting stuff

#

Exe stance goes hard

formal ice
#

That uh

#

Don't use ammo

dawn root
#

That's why I asked

orchid hemlock
#

Vet is a hybrid class not a range class

formal ice
#

Yeah the melee weapon often are used as horde clears

orchid hemlock
#

if you want to play a range class, play Psyker

tall torrent
# proven garden Wallahi

Only the special activated attacks can stagger ragers out of their combo and it’s single target only

#

Chainsword is really one dimensional on veteran

formal ice
real shoal
#

How exactly important is the split between charge rate and thermal resist on plasma?

I'm seeing a guide say 69TR and 71CR, and I got one that's like 72TR and 68CR. Do I keep spamming, or is that good?

orchid hemlock
real shoal
#

So 72% passes the breakpoint and only costs me a small fraction of time on each shot.

orchid hemlock
#

charge rate is how fast you can fire the gun

real shoal
#

Fine, I'll keep rolling.

#

ty

orchid hemlock
#

it's up to u, but i personally just dump the TR to 60 because I dont want to waste my sanity getting the perfect roll

real shoal
#

I got several million I'm not using

#

I can dump a few million on it

orchid hemlock
#

CR is better than TR except for the breakpoint

#

I dont really have overheating problems with the PG

#

so i dont really care about the extra shot

real shoal
#

Maybe 70/70 is fine

#

I think that's a pretty solid luck roll considering how specific it is.

orchid hemlock
#

u can do whatever you want, im just saying why that is the "perfect roll"

#

the PG is such an overpowered weapon tho that it really doesn't matter

tall torrent
#

Just a small % away from perfect

real shoal
#

Well, it's probably an upgrade over what I had. It was great when we couldn't force perfect outcomes, but now that we can, it might be time to throw some coin at it.

tall torrent
#

I’m not sure where that decimal is so the safe bet is 69%

dim tiger
#

this is good right?

stone quail
vernal trench
dim tiger
#

the guide says 69% charge and 71% thermal

#

so i am doomed or it's fine anyway?

vernal trench
#

LMFAO

dim tiger
#

😅

loud belfry
#

it's ogre. but if you pray maybe it'll drift to be perfect

#

not sure it's worth empowering for that slim chance tho

dim tiger
#

imagine it's gonna bug it into 69% and 71%

loud belfry
#

mine went from 69 71 to 71 69. so it's possible

dim tiger
#

😭

finite carbon
#

Did they still not change how the plasma gun charge stat being best at around 72?

#

Or was it 71? I forgor

loud belfry
#

@tired egret

finite carbon
#

Okay, that answers my question, lmao XD

hollow ibex
#

chad sacrificing his ping notifications so people know what the best plasma roll is

lyric portal
#

this when

crimson pebble
#

never

terse idol
tall torrent
proven garden
#

What weapon do you all use for adept assassin

#

I didn’t notice the part where the headshot had to be a crit

real shoal
# proven garden What weapon do you all use for adept assassin

weapon spec melee can have like 40%+ crit chance. I happened to enjoy pretending to be a zealot and running a knife (before the new knife came out). It already has a high crit rate, and its heavy attack just chops right down on the head. You could also just do something like a dueling sword. It has less crit chance, but you're also always aiming for heads with it, so you'll get progress naturally.

You can also do a ranged route. Kill something in melee, swap to revolver, and with weapon spec, you'll likely have 100% crit chance. You can put surgical on it and just wait to assure the crit chance. Doing 250 headshots deliberately, one at a time, sounds crappy. But if you just run the spec and play it legitimately (weapon swapping constantly) you'll get it real fast.

I just so happen to only like weapon spec vet, so it happened really naturally.

latent parcel
#

guys i think i bricked my plasma 😔

tawny badger
#

1% isnt going to kill you

crimson pebble
#

the breakpoints!!!

tawny badger
#

how about you go breakpoint some bitches

tame lodge
pseudo fiber
#

I forgot to do havoc this week

#

wait

#

did I?

tall torrent
orchid hemlock
#

@narrow frost

sleek garden
#

i wasnt always 100% sure about it before but today i am a smoke grenade believer and preacher

#

i just threw it at my feet in front of several gunners while i was out of stamina and toughness and they all stopped shooting and ran to cover and i was able to revive two teammates

#

it also blocks snipers

tame lodge
#

(confuse dogs and flamers as well)

hollow ibex
#

remember when smoke didn't block snipers? KEKW_ogryn

tame lodge
#

(Tox gas has the same concealing properties of Smokes)

loud belfry
#

6681 damage taken (i noobed it up with 645 damage taken)

heavy rover
#

hear me out

#

power shovel

cloud thunder
#

How good is this build? Opinions? Making a vet

#

Although I was thinking of going right path at start instead

crimson pebble
#

id get rid of close quarters killzone and just pick up weapon spec tbh

#

also instead of exploit weakness the 25 toughness node

cloud thunder
#

All right

#

What about my idea to go down right path instead at the very start for O4B?

tall torrent
cloud thunder
#

Yeah I already run flak on lasgun

tall torrent
#

duelling sword has very little benefit from the atk speed increase on veteran

cloud thunder
#

I’m going power sword instead

#

Was more so the perks I was asking about for class

tall torrent
#

power sword VI
elite + maniac

#

recon XII
flak + maniac/crit chance

cloud thunder
#

No I meant

#

Veteran perks

#

The class

tall torrent
#

u mean talents?

narrow frost
#

talents

cloud thunder
#

Yeah

#

That’s all I was asking about