veteran-class

[dry cloak]

the is a slug one, the bleed one and fire breath one

[unreal nova]

Why do you think knoife only if sus noises.

[midnight wyvern]

I uh, was killing a horde yesterday with a bolter, didn't know there was a DH in an exact spot behind those, so that sleeping lad took a round to the side of the head unprovoked

very unfortunate

[light ridge]

Too far away to hear it...

[midnight wyvern]

🙂‍↕️

[unreal nova]

Makes me paranoid tbh. Since lethal prox Bolt Pistol lul.

[midnight wyvern]

fire one should be dragonsbreath and just an entirely different shotgun with a drum mag

gib

[light ridge]

Vigil Station seems to be the worst for it
Don't think it ever happened to me on another map

[viral hazel]

Does Lethal Proximity still apply to grenades you throw?

[dry cloak]

yeah

[unreal nova]

It still does. And yes, even with kraks.

[dry cloak]

does it inscrease the radius of zealot nades too?

[viral hazel]

Mad bomber build inc

[unreal nova]

Does not. Tested with immo anyway.

[dry cloak]

aye

[unreal nova]

Too late, I'm a gremlin grenadier.

Who likes beeg boomies.

Oggy's nukes when?

+25% boom radius on them...

[dry cloak]

Big boom node

[unreal nova]

Gib Oggy Bolt Pistols!

[dry cloak]

It the has 20m of range

[unreal nova]

Still.

25m BOOM.

[viral hazel]

I know the way to fix Ogyrn, give them a mirv mini nuke from fallout 4

[dry cloak]

This is the range with big boom node

[unreal nova]

Yes, but think of it with +25% boom radius.

:3

[tame lodge]

And it would still be trash because
Looks at gg and rumbler
Fatshark shenanigans

[dry cloak]

Ogryns explosive weapons need a touch up

Rumbler in particular

[midnight wyvern]

what're the preferred weapons people use in auric/Auric maelstroms? if I had to guess id say plasma, revolver, Recon las, maybe single fire auto and maybe bolter, and also why do you use them?

[grand perch]

Shotguns would be 50% better with meatier sound effects

[tame lodge]

Real
Ripper gun has a delicious bass

[viral hazel]

I maintain that Grenade Gauntlet is a noob trap, yeah it's good but you have to aim it to fire and when you are surrounded and need to make space or cover a teammate it lets you down

[pseudo fiber]

Is this more a question on why people generally do it or why personally I would do it for example?

[dry cloak]

Ripper gins need 40 shots more in base pool

[tame lodge]

Also real

[midnight wyvern]

directed at whoever decided to respond I guess, just curious on weapon choices and if there is anything beyond "ha ha gun go shoot"

[viral hazel]

Ogyrn needs more base ammo pool on just about everything

[tame lodge]

It keeps asking me to hold the trigger
But it doesn't have the ammo for it

[dry cloak]

Kickback actually needs around 7-10 shots less

[midnight wyvern]

yeah kickback is nuts lol

[pseudo fiber]

Well to be honest for auric if the gun shoots its usually enough for me.

But for those weapons you listed in particular
Plasma: High penetration and damage leading to good ammo economy and effectiveness when dealing with lots of specials at once (common occurance in auric and auric maelstroms)
Recon las: Excellent ammo economy with shock trooper
Regular las gun: anti shooter weapon can kill them in 1 hit with marksmans focus I think very nice.
Bolter: shits out damage both doing single shots and mag dumping if needed.
Revolver: One hits pretty much everything with a headshot lol.
Bolt pistol: Lethal proximity grenade go brrrrr

[midnight wyvern]

whats up with lethal proximity?

I'm missing tech to abuse

[viral hazel]

The Ogyrn weighs more than a Miata and can probably pick one up and throw it, there's no reason he's only carrying 5~ belts of ammo for his lmg

[dry cloak]

We carry more than that iirc

For gorg we have 4.8 mags with big stash . This is reserve only

[viral hazel]

1000 rounds of 5.56 ask me about my spine lmao

[pseudo fiber]

Lethal proximity increases the radius of shredder frags explosion

[dry cloak]

As much as i want anproper minigun in this game i know we wont have it

[midnight wyvern]

so would you just go all the nodes that give grenades, more grenades, getting grenades back, and run bolt pistol/LP?

[dry cloak]

Thats thebplan

[midnight wyvern]

bet

[tame lodge]

[pseudo fiber]

It's a lot of fun

Use puncture or run and gun to kill gunners with it too

[tame lodge]

And like
Bring a weapon with Uncanny Strike

[midnight wyvern]

I know that stacks with range weapons and giving them pen from throwing knives on zealot, but

[unreal nova]

I'll link you to my build which is basically just it, lul. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9defd2a3-58b3-47de-9d5f-68902fd3411a/boomies

And yes, Knoife or Dueling works for uncanny if you really wanna lean into that.

[midnight wyvern]

do you have to have the bolt pistol out for it to buff the radius of the grenade?

[unreal nova]

Nope.

It's passive.

I should know, been fugging around with it lul. It's like a mini nuke.

Just throw four in case of emergencies, less if twinned.

If anything survives, it's bloody crushers.

[midnight wyvern]

aw yep lol

so you would want to stack uncanny occasionally to get AP on the grenades?

[unreal nova]

To be fair, if you really want crushers ded, go krak.

If you want overkill, sure.

[midnight wyvern]

[unreal nova]

2 is usually enough to clean most things.

3 will definitely wipe anything that isn't armored.

4 is, panic 4th 'nade out.

Or you twinned your two nades.

And you can really use something other than flesh tearer.

The main thing is Uncanny anyway.

Why the, DS also works bit.

But knoife is extra gremlin, and my vet is a boomie gremlin so...

[pallid jetty]

can somebody explain me what does loose cannon say when he answers on the cheering his big kill count
like "whats wrong with a bit of gusto", what the hell is gusto
and something about copuscus moving, i dont even know how to spell it

[hearty panther]

yknow, gusto

[pallid jetty]

no i dont know gusto

[hearty panther]

like having grit

or gumption

or cahones

[pallid jetty]

are you being funny?

[hearty panther]

no

[pallid jetty]

ok, i googled it

[hearty panther]

its a real world u can google it

ye

[pallid jetty]

i guess its a british thing

[hearty panther]

word, doh

[tame lodge]

Oh you know

A zest

[pallid jetty]

ok, thats the second one

whats*

[pseudo fiber]

It just means enthusiasm

[hearty panther]

some flair

[pallid jetty]

yeah yeah tell me 10 times more

after i learned

[hearty panther]

idk for the second one

[tame lodge]

Oh the corpuscle thing

Isn't it like

[hearty panther]

pretty sure its a 40K thing

[tame lodge]

Tiny body

[pallid jetty]

corpuscle

wtf is this word

[hearty panther]

their made up word for your core or some shit

[tame lodge]

Or like tiny parts of your body

[pallid jetty]

alright

i guess moebian domain is british lore-wise

[warm bolt]

All of warhammer is offensively british in language

[pallid jetty]

thx for spelling

[tame lodge]

🫡

[unreal nova]

I mean, it's been that way since the start lul.

[pallid jetty]

even after 1300 hrs i still had these questions

and asked them just now

[light ridge]

Warhammer is British so expect Britishisms in what there karkers shout

[pallid jetty]

britishism

[light ridge]

Foreshortened lifespans or four shortened lifespans
There's a Psyker who will correct you on this

[pallid jetty]

this one i guessed myself

not hard

[light ridge]

Both can be correct

[sullen jackal]

I think that was a goof in that the voice actor mispronounced it and rolled with it.

[unreal nova]

I mean, if so, sometimes those things are just kept anyway.

Is Seer anyway, they are nuttier than the other two.

[sullen jackal]

which is why it's super long lol

[tender rose]

I think there were two people in the recording booth when he was doing the line and he was playing to them. They thought it was funny and it was recorded so they kept it.

The male lose Cannon vet has a bunch of improv lines. You can tell by the way the female lose cannon says things that she's reading directly from the script vs the same line from the male VA.

[dreamy spade]

average baross game

[toxic leaf]

i just want a brutes + histg damnation game, director

[umbral scaffold]

mnk vets, whats a good button for the ping?

[heavy rover]

i use middle mouse click

[toxic leaf]

middle mouse for me as well

[lucid bough]

Mouse wheel up, lets you screen through low visibility environments easily

[umbral scaffold]

im asking bc i dont wanna use middle mouse click anymore 😂

[full osprey]

It’s fun to use I’ll say that

[tame lodge]

Pretty average
Just aim down sights and aim for heads

[light ridge]

Nah, he's just breaking the 4th wall.
Known Psyker ability

[heavy rover]

does your mouse have side buttons as well? That could be an option. You can ping using your thumb. That way you avoid middle moues click

[slow spade]

Left and right mouse 😎

[umbral scaffold]

i wanna put it on m1 but im worried it might be annoying

[heavy rover]

yeah best not to spam ping

and I'm saying that as someone who uses Focus Target

[light ridge]

I put it on Tab

[queen fox]

I have it on a mouse side button, the other side button is special attack

[hollow ibex]

I don't rez M1 psykers and M1 pingers

[sullen jackal]

rude.

m1 legit on electrostaff even without quell cancel :c

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/badass-gif-4810339

[austere pine]

how do heavy swords compare to rashad on vet?

[tame lodge]

Can't deal with Carapace or Bosses

But will kill everything else

[austere pine]

so everything the exact same, better horde (maybe) but worse tank damage

yeah expected as much

[tame lodge]

PA on Rashad is how you stumble Ragers
Special on heavy sword
But Rashad's pa is better for more than one dreg rager

[austere pine]

will definitely give them a chance outside of havoc

auric damnation is so sleeper after having played havoc

i'm not even havoc 40

shit, i'm not even at havoc 30

[slow spade]

It was a joke, don't do that :p

[lucid bough]

There are some special slots reserved on my ignore list for people who have ping on m1 ingame

[slow spade]

"Man I wish people would ping more so I can keep track of elites/specials better"

Monkey's paw curls

[burnt stump]

Everyone pings Elites/Specials whenever they show up

[crude fiber]

I always ping whatever im shooting or if theres elites in a hoard. Just gives better visibility

[burnt stump]

I always ping the big bads (Ogryn enemies) or things I cannot kill based on my current loadout

Running Guardsman Loadout prevents me from shooting Carapace enemies so I ping those first

That or I ping something I can't get a good shot on, like a sniper who's miles away

[crude fiber]

Gotta have the no skull icon mod if they're far away though

[lucid bough]

The no skull icon mod is redundant because you can already disable the skulls in custom ui

[slow spade]

I play PUGs

[austere pine]

ping everything always without question

helps with identification of primary targets, with picks (as it gives you a very very clear outline of where to shoot for heads), with decision making...

and most importantly makes people aware of a threat they might not be able to see/hear/identify

and it costs you nothing. it's not a limited resource

[full osprey]

Opinion on plasma gun and bolter?

[tame lodge]

One is a one tap machine with 100 cleave

[slow spade]

Literally some of the best weapons Vet has

[tame lodge]

The other is brrrr

Death

Pretty solid choices

[orchid hemlock]

I think they are cute

[tame lodge]

Alternatively

One is a deadly hot dubstep

The other is blast beats

[queen fox]

Has science gone too far???

[tired crane]

well today is the day, wish me luck fellow shoutys.. i begin my knife zealot path today so i can get my final penances to finish all under the zealot tree

[austere pine]

wrong chat, priest

[tired crane]

oh damn lol woops

[crimson pebble]

i like knife more on vet anyways

[sleek garden]

i am the master of dodging and hitting a pebble that stops dodges

[tough crest]

which of the iag's is the good one?

messed around with the vraks. didn't like how fast it burns through ammo and the recoil is very annoying.

[narrow frost]

define good

because the vraks is the best mark

[tough crest]

oh well that stinks

[narrow frost]

play whatever you like

[tough crest]

the way it chews through ammo is just not fun at all compared to any of the las and the initial recoil is horrendous

[narrow frost]

oh wait

oh yeah

it is vraks

they did name changes

[tough crest]

yeah the small blue one

[crisp oak]

Btw ainz, what do you run on your bauto?

On zealot

[narrow frost]

fire frenzy/ deathspitter maniac/flak

gria

[crisp oak]

[tough crest]

aside from recon and plasma what are the "no really this is a strong weapon" for range on the vet? pls don't say some kinda revolver. i beg.

[crisp oak]

Trying to give it a second chance

[narrow frost]

autoguns if you can control recoil

laz pistol is good for range control

[crisp oak]

Helbore

Bolter

[narrow frost]

anti range elite is bolter

braced for horde

[tough crest]

my issue with the iag is how fast it shoots and once the initial recoil evens out youve gone through a fourth of the mag

[crisp oak]

Yup some of the weapons are just "get good"

The revolver is really good with a specific build

(Where you never have to reload)

Bolt pistol buffs your shredder frag grenades

[tough crest]

that stinks a lot. id rather have fewer mags but larger mags on the iags. i can deal with the recoil but the fact its the same initial recoil when you start firing makes bursting very awful especially if youre trying to conserve ammo and you are shooting at different elites

[narrow frost]

use laz pistol

[tough crest]

ehhhh

[narrow frost]

no recoil

good ammo eco

[tough crest]

i didn't get into 40k to use pistol

[narrow frost]

k

[crisp oak]

Then use bolter

[tough crest]

its like using knife. no thanks. could be the best melee in the game by a factor of ten and id still use pretty much anything ellse

[crisp oak]

[warm bolt]

Tbf one of the most badass men uses a pistol

A certain commissar lad to be precise

[crisp oak]

Or the infantry lasgun (but you need to hit heads)

[tough crest]

thats a bolt pistol

[warm bolt]

But in actual books he uses las pistol

All pictures of him are just propaganda and the artists keep giving him bolter pistol cause it has more of a presence

(An actual reason)

[hot sinew]

Hi I've been looking at building a support / elites and specialists killer build and I was hoping for some critique. I can't post pictures but my weapons are power sword (Flak Unyielding Wrath and Brutal Momentum) Boltgun (Flak Unyielding Shattering Impact Pinning Fire) my talents are ( first row: Close Order Drill, Confirmed Kill second row: Krak Grenade, Covering Fire into Agile Engagement, Close and Kill third row: Demolition Stockpile Voice of Command Duty and Honour fourth row: Precision Strikes, Fully Loaded, Keep Their Heads Down, Tactical Awareness, [everything on the lefthand side of the third tree from Reciprocity to Weapons Specialist and Always Prepared, Invigorated and On Your Toes)

[warm bolt]

But yeah i can understand not wanting to use a pistol when something like a whole-ass plasma gun is right there

[crisp oak]

But yeah bolter if you can hit your bolter shots

Helbore if you can hit your shots with a charge

Ilas if you hit heads

Laspistol if you hit heads

Vigilant autogun if you hate yourself

[warm bolt]

Sorry, not really a build expert, but PS/boltgun combo is pretty solid all-round and if i were to give any advice i'd try and revise the build to include only in death does duty end, pretty good, but sorta situational

[hot sinew]

What talent would you give up for that? I was thinking of getting rid of Invigorated

[warm bolt]

Yeah looks like you can sacrifice it for an extra skill point

But also, again, im not really a build guy and i've been running the same build i once found here for like a while so take what i say with a grain of salt

[hot sinew]

My only hesitancy in my newish opinion lounging around Heresy difficult (so not a Havoc player) is I've noticed that either people go down and its a wipe or they don't. I feel like a bit there's no in-between.

[crisp oak]

Depends on how well you play

[hot sinew]

I generally worry about building bad habits. This is I think my third week of playing?

[narrow frost]

You should try power cycle and Brutal Momentum for the mk.6 power sword

lets you get 3 powered attacks

[orchid hemlock]

Omg that wall of data

[hot sinew]

This is going to sound really really dumb but when I used it because of the server reccomendation it didn't stay charged up on my attacks. So I am not sure if I am using it correctly.

[umbral scaffold]

for the purpose of sunder perk on ps, is push attack considered a heavy attack?

[orchid hemlock]

I assume u want a boltgun a build tho so here: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d69293a-2b68-4cb2-b221-c5f5493fd880/bolt-deez-nutts?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[narrow frost]

If you get it when you have it powered on, it will turn off

[crisp oak]

If you get hit by a poxwalker it disconnects

[hot sinew]

Interesting I didn't make that connection.

[crisp oak]

So you need to learn spacing

[loud belfry]

it's kinda wild how weak power sword's powering mechanic is compared to relic sword

[narrow frost]

@hot sinew

[crisp oak]

This also means that the psword fails you when shit goes wild

[narrow frost]

3 power hits

[hot sinew]

Are you doing the push attack deliberately?

[narrow frost]

yes

[sleek garden]

push attack has super high finesse damage

[narrow frost]

with the mk 6 you can 1 shot every enemy besides crusher with a PA

and its a bit safer

you can see the damage difference

[hot sinew]

Is there an alternate weapon for things go wild?

[narrow frost]

with a non PA and a PA

[hot sinew]

You save about 3 swings which is wild to me

[narrow frost]

Yup

[hollow ibex]

used to be super overtuned, and then nerfed massively

still very good, just annoying and janky

i hope it gets RB treatment

[hot sinew]

How good is the shock maul? That’s the other weapon I liked while leveling.

[tawny timber]

not the best but quite good

[tame lodge]

It only struggles against bosses

[tawny timber]

it is my favorite weapon for vet

[tame lodge]

So bring some for monstrosities

[hot sinew]

If I wanted to use it for horde management what blessings should I use?

[hot sinew]

What blessings do you use?

[tawny timber]

I am not the one to ask bc idk the ideal ones

[narrow frost]

check pins

@hot sinew

[hot sinew]

Thank you!

[narrow frost]

just scroll to the weapon you want to know

path has a few pages to read

[sleek garden]

just watched a zealot get hit trying to kill 3 bruisers and back up to magdump them

[dire olive]

Strongest zealot main

[sleek garden]

also he magdumped a boss whichwould have been fine but he hit a barrel from the explosion and launched me off the map

[warm bolt]

Thanks big E

[regal bramble]

Is that actually good👀

[heavy rover]

Buying from Brunt's armory until you get it. That's how I've gotten most of my builds these days

[hollow ibex]

wdym, they're separate stats

[calm shard]

is marksmans focus not better for bolty breakpoints

thought it was only 1 headshot for 1 shot headshotting dreg gunners

[terse idol]

No

[tame lodge]

You don't

[terse idol]

I don't recall

Exe is where you get your bps for bodyshots

I think...

Not mf

[orchid hemlock]

No, the breakpoints are taken care of with puncture

[tame lodge]

If it's like the Cleave/Defences on the dueling sword

[orchid hemlock]

If u want more finesse damage just take Marksman

[faint beacon]

every time I see MF I just get sad with how lackluster it is vs the two other options

[hollow ibex]

yeah you dumb mobility anyway

you want collateral on brauto

[faint beacon]

I love its idea so much but holy shit its just mediocre vs FT and WS

[vivid silo]

My brain

Jokes aside, the Vet guides pinned here are usually pretty good

But I usually run pretty homemade builds as I often run some off-meta stuff

[hollow ibex]

4 is the default

but they're all overtuned

[hearty panther]

i mean mark v looks downright reasonable imo

[tame lodge]

2

But like

4 is pretty simple

[faint beacon]

You know what- I love the concept enough to give this a shot but its probably going to be miserable vs WS LMAO

wish me luck

[tame lodge]

2 and 4 are pretty much the same
Except 2 has an easier time dealing with hordes

And at the same time you can just throw frags/leave hordes for the Psyker/light attack with the 4

[quartz nymph]

After what seems like forever I finely got on overwatch penance

[past oriole]

shockmaul is actually pretty fun

zamn

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

[past oriole]

big zappy

[tame lodge]

[hearty panther]

i like it

it has this uncanny ability to be three hits to kill every target

well probably not in havocs actually

still, funny lil dood

the taser prod also sounds fantastic

[orchid hemlock]

New Havoc meta

Ghost + constant regen

[faint beacon]

Update:

No flak towards the players they kept getting fucking STEAM ROLLED by ogryn spawns

It worked extremely well

their numbers are also probably inflated so much with damage cause well

2 Martyr Zeals

[orchid hemlock]

Shieldgryns perma cccing bullwalks:

[faint beacon]

what do you expect

lmao

Anyways I made MF work on an Aggressive build!!!!!!

its no where near as good as WS obviously but its a nice change of pace for once

[tall torrent]

I’ve sorta defaulted to exe Boltgun for the event

[faint beacon]

You really only need like

Shredders or VOC and just back up instead of push forward

[tall torrent]

3 shot ogryns is too nice

I even take exe stance ogryn refresh

[faint beacon]

I love stabbing Plogyrns in the head over and over to where they can't do anything whilst my team deals with the Ogryn wave

lmao

Also Istfg they're gonna be missing out big time if they dont call this modifier "Stomping Grounds"

[tame lodge]

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jvFjdUkq3thJ94iH9?invite=cr-MSxFdDYsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

Also this annoyed me so much I clipped it lmao

[tall torrent]

3HS crusher
2 shots to open bulwark shield, then 2 headshots (?) to kill

[grand perch]

fake path spotted

[faint beacon]

DECLINE IMMEDIATELY

“I found you faker!”

[wanton dawn]

Look at this dude with 4 digits true lvl. What a nolife

Smh

[grand perch]

fookin 1700+ monobuild tryhards

[tawny badger]

what does tryhard even mean anymore

[grand perch]

im being ironic anyway

[crisp oak]

Reminds me, if build has trench fighter, is rashad better than psword?

[wanton dawn]

Imagine being 1700+ amiright

[wanton dawn]

Ehhh, debatable. Comparable

[crisp oak]

Horde clear?

[wanton dawn]

Better horde clear on axe. Better ogryn and boss on ps

[crisp oak]

Rip me then

Since my kryptonite is the crusher bulwark mass block

[wanton dawn]

Yeah, ps is def better for that

Sunder them away

[crisp oak]

Though Im not running sunder

[wanton dawn]

Well, for bulwark it helps

[crisp oak]

Because without bromentum can't horde clear

[wanton dawn]

Meh

[crisp oak]

Tbh though I sorta hate the power sword

[wanton dawn]

Thats fine

[terse idol]

Imo i think the PS suffers from old weapons design

[crisp oak]

This

[tall torrent]

Power sword kills / staggers easier, but cannot stagger crusher and has worse sustained dps vs boss

[terse idol]

Alot of the new weapons are alooot smoother

[crisp oak]

It takes a full set of swings to kill a crusher

[tall torrent]

Power sword has higher burst from PA + L4 combo

[crisp oak]

Yeah I pretty much just charge->lights until loses charge->charge

[grand perch]

run helbore for more boss dps with bayonet

[wanton dawn]

Ops, meant to emote react

Well, that works too

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/fishreactedlol-slapbattles-gif-662084313512901129

[tawny badger]

after using the relic blade for as long as I have

I look at the psword and sigh

[wanton dawn]

Zealot

[tawny badger]

nuh uh

[tame lodge]

I mean

Both are basically on demand

Psword won't lock out

And greatsword is great unpowered

Did we compare their defensive properties yet?

[orchid hemlock]

when will the suffering end?

[crisp oak]

Not even in death does suffering end

[queen fox]

when you die, the suffering doesn't end, it gets worse

[thorn lark]

I played with they yesterday lmao

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/furetto-ferret-chat-chat-morta-dead-chat-gif-20967081

[heavy rover]

so I was messing around and cooked something interesting. Helbore lasgun w/ armourbane, then also use Onslaught talent. For targets, use a charged shot first. if they're not down in one shot, then use regular follow-up shots. Brittleness will quickly hit the max 16 stacks thanks to the charged shot already getting you to 12 stacks. Regular follow-up shots will fill up to 16 stacks of brittleness if needed. pretty fast time-to-kill for targets, at least for the helbore

...i still prefer the mk iib infantry lasgun tho

maybe it's some serious cope but I want the helbore to be viable one day

[tame lodge]

I don't want to rain on their parade

Someone else do it

[heavy rover]

do your worst

hit me with it

[wraith sail]

The problem with helbore is you can't watch your back while sniping, which is a problem because randos won't even try to cover you. There is nothing wrong with the gun itself.

[heavy rover]

yeah, that's fair

literal tunnel vision as you're busy charging up shots

[wraith sail]

if you do a crit build you can just never run out of ammo. I never have to pick up ammo when I run helbore.

[sleek garden]

good gravy zealot players are always a source of fascination

[sleek garden]

theres always something i want more than shock trooper otherwise id take it every time

[faint beacon]

Welp done with the event grind

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/people-die-if-they-are-gif-20318194

[faint beacon]

Lmao

[burnt vortex]

It's him, the legendary bone of his sword man.

[orchid hemlock]

The BONE of my SWORD?

If yall think WH has "complex lore" yall don't want to touch Fate

"guys u see, the 12 year olds making out is very important to the plot due to how mana transferring work" 🤓

[faint beacon]

Excuse me?

[unreal nova]

It's just Fate. Originally was a H work so...

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-bäumer-looking-broken-as-he-stares-ahead-to-the-battlefield-all-quiet-on-the-western-front-paul-bäumer-paul-baumer-all-quiet-on-the-western-front2022-gif-27564153

[orchid hemlock]

I don't think that is the problem specifically 😔

I know this might be mind bending to Mangaka

But u don't need to be a pedo to make porn

🤯

[loud belfry]

[orchid hemlock]

It gets worse, trust me

[loud belfry]

oh I know

[unreal nova]

Part of it. And really, is best not to think too much of it. It's not great.

[orchid hemlock]

Eroge writers are... A different breed that's for sure

[hollow ibex]

fate wasn't even meant to have any sex scenes in it lol

[orchid hemlock]

There are some good ones tho

Like.....
Uh...
No...
Uh...

I want to say Steins Gate.... But....

I would be lying

[orchid hemlock]

I mean sure, but even after they developed success and made edits to the Canon plotline.....

They created the abomination that is Fate GO

[loud belfry]

there are lots of good visual novels you bastard

[orchid hemlock]

Eroge not all VNs

[hollow ibex]

i've lost track of the fate multiverse

[orchid hemlock]

🤓

[loud belfry]

I see

steins gate is an eroge?

[orchid hemlock]

No

[loud belfry]

wtf...

[orchid hemlock]

That's why didn't pick it

Actually I honestly for the life of me find a single one

Some have interesting concepts like Saya No Uta

But then I wonder why the Protag is a 14 year old girl

💀

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/saya-no-uta-song-of-saya-saya-saya-punch-gif-11865766441166149299

[orchid hemlock]

The good ending 😔

What fun fact, the writer of Saya no Uta also wrote Madoka Magica

[unreal nova]

You mean a spawn that looks like that?

[loud belfry]

Gen Urobuchi is based

[orchid hemlock]

What is up with this guy and writing about teenage girls going thru cartel levels of torture? 🤔

[loud belfry]

you don't wanna know

on the bright side it didn't go so bad for saya

[unreal nova]

He is Gurobuchi or Gurobutcher for a reason.

[orchid hemlock]

Did u read the VN?

Uh

In all routes

[loud belfry]

I will neither confirm nor deny

[orchid hemlock]

She gets SAed

[loud belfry]

after fucking like

[orchid hemlock]

In 1 of the routes ||she dies from a shotgun wound||

[loud belfry]

you know what she did to that guy

[orchid hemlock]

Sure but I don't think she enjoyed that experience

[loud belfry]

nope, definitely not. but at least in the true ending she did the thing

[orchid hemlock]

Isn't the true ending her dying tho? 💀

[loud belfry]

more like transcending, she infects the whole world with whatever she is-itis

[orchid hemlock]

I don't think that is the true ending

But then again I don't think there is a true ending

I thought the true ending was everyone dying

Because technically that is you making no "mistakes" in the perspectives of all of the characters

Anyways, Saya Deez nuts

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/saya-no-uta-saya-fumo-fumofumo-eating-gif-13953438620368152156

[orchid hemlock]

My favorite VN is Pigeon dating simulator

Not even close

[loud belfry]

mine is either umineko or dies irae

both over like 80 hours long lol

[orchid hemlock]

"dating simulator" seems to be a misleading title tbh

Wait

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/bvndit-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-lol-gif-26075659

[uncut pebble]

Something something, "Chinese girl lover," something something...

[loud belfry]

das why i chose it. idk if she's chinese though, no idea who that is

[orchid hemlock]

Since Ogryn chat are filled with babies I'm gonna send u this here 😤

@loud belfry

[loud belfry]

why god

[orchid hemlock]

Zilla in on that Cavel 😔

[faint beacon]

Rawest image ever sent in Vet Chat

"This screenshot goes hard feel free to screenshot"

[vernal trench]

whats dump stat for a heavy las pistol?

[hollow ibex]

stab usually, but could dump mob too

[orchid hemlock]

Ogryn chat called me a "Slaanesh" worshiper for posting an MPREG image 💀

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-x-kong-the-new-empire-godzilla-kong-desert-fight-gif-3675256400829271222

[vernal trench]

wats the difference between marks?

[hollow ibex]

mk2 good, mk10 poopoo

[vernal trench]

whats the difference

[tall torrent]

Stability for mk2
Mobility for mk10 (since it actually has recoil)

[vernal trench]

ty

[barren nimbus]

do your weapon blessings always work even if you dont have them out

[tall torrent]

What do u mean

[umbral scaffold]

What is volly fire

[barren nimbus]

I thought I saw a video where the bolt pistol blessing that buffs explosion radius worked with his melee out

[hollow ibex]

most blessings dont work like that

[tall torrent]

That’s a very rare exception

[tall torrent]

Left side ability

Executioner’s stance

Is the upgraded version of volley fire (veteran’s default ability)

[umbral scaffold]

What on the skill tree

[tall torrent]

What?

[jade breach]

It's not on the skill tree - it's the default unmodified active ability. It's replaced by exec stance.

[stoic basalt]

I dont see anyone using it but whats the best roll for a Bolter? not the Pistol

[rugged lark]

Everything but mobility; iirc

[sharp trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921906718806515763/1219831305232056360/wj8LKo574g7aFsd_-ezgif.com-split.gif

[stoic basalt]

ty

nother question, just leveling random weapons for points whats a good tac Axe Blessing combo, im thinking Brutal Momentum and either Head taker or Relentless Strikes

[tame lodge]

Shred Headtaker

[loud belfry]

i would say "no text, goated" but it doesnt even show the pyramid being destroyed

[oblique totem]

I hate this.
More.

[umbral scaffold]

How do I get this long bomb penance

It says hit 5 does that mean not kill

[hollow ibex]

chuck a frag at a very long range and airburst it

you usually do it from high ground, like off a bridge

[umbral scaffold]

What’s air burst

[hollow ibex]

explode it in the air

[umbral scaffold]

Ok thanks

[gentle yoke]

How hard is it to do the Unseen predator penance? Already pretty burnt out from trying to get some of these other ones

[tall torrent]

what's unseen predator

[gentle yoke]

Surpress 750 enemies with infiltrate

In abilities section

[vernal harbor]

ey they fucking in vet chat

[tall torrent]

Not hard

Takes maybe 2-3 games

[gentle yoke]

Never really played with infiltrate. Am I just supposed to uncloak in the middle of hordes for it?

[dry cloak]

yes

also infiltrate vet is a fun playstyle

[vernal harbor]

havent tried in havoc but i was laughing at how if you stack suppress on your braced autogun and junk you can stop entire groups of gunners with 5-10 semi shots at them

[grand perch]

shredder pistol suppression meta when

[tame lodge]

Never

Brautos have better suppression

Accatran shotgun has better suppression

SAP is 1-2

Brautos are 4-8

Accatran shotgun is 8-15

Bolts are 10

[grim widget]

mkxii or mkxiv recon lasgun?

[tame lodge]

14

[unreal nova]

Isn't it depending on what you are doing?

[tame lodge]

yes

[grim widget]

which is better for what?

[midnight totem]

so tired

[unreal nova]

All I know is blue is onslaught memes. The other two is either ammo efficient or have cleave for lower diff stuff.

[grim widget]

what perks to put on this?

flak + unyielding?

[stoic thorn]

Flak unarmoured for me

[grim widget]

can you not upgrade level 3 perks to level 4?

[unreal nova]

You can, need mastery lvls though.

Like 16 or 18, I think.

[grim widget]

nice ok thank you.

one last thing, is power sword good right now? what should i put on this?

[warm bolt]

PS is the meta choice iirc

Only rivalled by duelling sword

Blessings look aight, but perks i think it's flak + maniac?

[unreal nova]

Eh, still have Rashad CAxe though.

[warm bolt]

Oh right

[unreal nova]

And technically knoife.

All for differing uses.

[grim widget]

so perk is flak + maniac?

[unreal nova]

More or less, you would be shooting plasma at most carapace targets anyway?

[solar valve]

I run carapace on mine

[warm bolt]

Melk i appreciate you but i wont use autoguns

[lost sun]

how do sustained blessing work ? so the more i shot the more damage i deal capped after ther 4th shot ?

[austere mica]

It’s damage for the 3rd and 4th shot before a recoil reset

Otherwise known as

Absolute garbage

[solar valve]

Vigilant auto makes me sad

Need an actual dmr

It shoots peas

[lost sun]

what are good blessing on recon lasgun then

i got infernus and dum dum

[craggy relic]

what are good melee options for veteran class?

[loud belfry]

power sword, combat axe

[solar valve]

Infernus and dum dum are pretty mets together

[craggy relic]

for havoc

[austere mica]

“Shoots peas” easily one tap/bursts gunners

[solar valve]

Not a high bar tbh

[warm bolt]

Powersword/duelling sword

[warm bolt]

Yeah seems about right

[craggy relic]

powersword blessing?

I have cyckled strikes and

[latent parcel]

psword mk6, rashad combat axe, dueling sword mk4, a couple more depends what your using it for

[warm bolt]

Infernus really makes recon shine and dumdum is just useful

[craggy relic]

Im using boltor

[warm bolt]

Slaughterer and power cycler iirc

[craggy relic]

ok

wait

if Im using boltor use psword?

how come mark 6 if I amy ask?

[hollow ibex]

kraks putting in some serious work during this event

and can i say, i love the tac axe now

[austere mica]

PC bromentum

[austere mica]

Better combos

[hollow ibex]

better horde clear, better single target... so better everything

[craggy relic]

bet

thank you

[austere mica]

And slightly better utility

[warm bolt]

Ah i see, thanks

Better rebless mine then

[austere mica]

Slaught is cool but it isn’t 4 free cleaved targets

(Assuming headshot kills)

[warm bolt]

What about bolter blessings while we're at it?

[solar valve]

Both pswords are good

Achylys is amazing tho

Scandar isnt as strong

[stoic thorn]

I still think we need to buff the shotguns

It's got a lot of bark but not as much bite

[solar valve]

I enjoy dbs weapon specialist

Combat shotty is eh for me

[austere mica]

Dbarrel is fine

Combat shotguns are a victim of old weapon design

[grand perch]

if only the bark was there, they sound so...hollow

[unreal nova]

Funni thonk.

[uncut pebble]

Try accatran.

Agri model does a lot of damage but accatran does more if we aren't talking special shot.

Also accatran can suppress from any distance if you aim center mass.

I have a clip of suppressing a reaper from 40m away with a standard shot, and iirc, the special shot can suppress from any distance because you instantly light the target on fire.

[stoic thorn]

I use the fire shot ones

Yeah I two shot gunners I think

But I probablt have redirect fire stacks active

[remote sonnet]

At the range you can kill them quickly, you might as well pulling out your melee.

[stoic thorn]

We should be able to regain shotgun ammo by killing shotgunners

In melee

[dapper plank]

what keystone should i try first?

[stoic thorn]

Weapon spec is pretty general

[remote sonnet]

Just go with Marksman Focus 1st so you don't be disappointed later.

[dapper plank]

all of them seem shit

[tough tiger]

nah

weapon spec is goated

[dapper plank]

so shit that i want duty and honour instyead of a keystone for the last point

[tough tiger]

i mean duty and honour is too good to not get

[dapper plank]

pairing duty and honour with iron will seems insane

longshot seems bugged. it gives me 173 dmg over 126 at max utility

so +40% instead of 20%

it would be 151 dmg with +20%, at max range

or.... is it +20% weakspot and +20% dmg? wich stacks?

non-weakspot goes from 116 to 138

also wtf is the point with +50% krak grenade dmg, if it oneshots crushers without it?

[wanton vapor]

Boss damage

[dapper plank]

are all bosses unyielding?

[dry cloak]

yeah

[wanton vapor]

Traitor captain is flak armor I think but everything else is unyielding

[dry cloak]

you can check on games lantern

[remote sonnet]

Depending on the weapon you are using.

Also, only people who never use keystone saying that they are bad.

[wanton dawn]

Are you taking innate armor modifier on you weapon into account ?

Some weapon have reverse falloff

[dapper plank]

i'm shooting the same thing

oh idk about reverse falloff

[wanton dawn]

For exemple, bolter does more damage to infested and unarmored at max range

About 12% more damage from near to far

Hellbore has similar properties

[remote sonnet]

ILG as well, dealing a little more damage at range.

But recon las and laspistol has big damage drop off.

[crude fiber]

I think bulwarks survive if you don't take any of the elite/ogryn damage nodes

[grand perch]

nah they die to 1 krak. tested with only these talents

i do remember they occasionally survived in live play, might be some edge cases, like maybe they got staggered and held their shield a tiny bit away from their body, reducing the damage?

[remote sonnet]

Or the grenade sticked on another target close to them.

[quartz falcon]

what Perks do I take when I wanna use the Las-Pistol? it seems kind of lackluster in a crit build, even tho it has infernus

[warm bolt]

Headhunter and ghost iirc?

[dry cloak]

laspistol is a more of side arm

use it for specials mostly

or shooters you need to kill

[quartz falcon]

I am just trying to make a 'commissar' build, I alr have the fashion and I used to run it with a Powersword and a trusty Bolt pistol

but now I gotta fill the role of Support and DPS and wanna use the Maccabian Dueling Sword for more fashion (the Psyker Saber)
and that one is kinda shit except if you go full crit

I wish we still had the las pistols from launch that shot way faster than the heavy ones in the game now

struggling to make it work without relying on a full auto weapon (which would kinda kill the immersion of being a commanding unit)

[remote sonnet]

Desperado + Ghost or Infernus.

[quartz falcon]

okay I shall try again

do you also have a build for Boltpistol? it bothers me that sometimes headshots on specialists aren't a guaranteed kill

w 80% dmg and +weakspot hit

[unreal nova]

Is due to not critting, pretty sure. Usually takes 2 shots or 1+puncture bleedout.

[warm bolt]

Oh yeah that's a problem sometimes

The build that is most common is the one that buffs explosion radius and puncture iirc

[uneven hull]

Besides Plasma, Recon Las and Bolters, what other guns are worth looking at for Vet?

[dry cloak]

ifantry autoguns

[thick rose]

agrip, my beloved

[dry cloak]

shotguns if you want some challenge

[dry cloak]

my favourite autogun in gunker

[thick rose]

surprisingly good fired from the hip

and you can aim down sight when you need to reach out

[dry cloak]

i always aimdown

on vet i prefer columnus 8 iag

[quiet glen]

as a new player whats the best blessing for my infantry lasgun? I can only put 1 on it

[dry cloak]

you can put 2 after you upgrade it to orange tier

and dont worry about builds until you are level 30

[unreal nova]

Keep resources and just use the drops. No point in upgrading stuff you'll dump when you get a perfect one.

[native wagon]

Hey everyone, what's good veteran build if I don't really like to use melee?

[hard oracle]

recon las gun or honestly just use the bolt gun or plasma veteran shines when monster hunting I think then just use your melee when they get close or you need to conserve ammo etc

even on veteran youre gonna need to melee some so its a good idea to get comfortable with it

[radiant chasm]

monstros and captains

[native wagon]

I love bolt gun and stub revolver, any more precise weapons that I can aim weak spots (coming from fps games)
What about skill tree?

[unreal nova]

If you use the revolver, you really need to get used to meleeing.

[native wagon]

Oh, then Its fine as well, I will find melee that fits me

[unreal nova]

Is just the reload is slow and most ppl use WS to insta reload or speed it up and boost the power of said shots.

[fervent mesa]

what other melee does vet have with a lot of cleave besides power sword and devil claw

[wanton dawn]

Rashad axe

[uneven hull]

Heavy Sword, Chain Sword.

I would count Dueling Sword, but it doesn't have a wide sweeping moveset you are probably looking for

[latent parcel]

you playin?

[wanton dawn]

yah sure

[latent parcel]

just woke up drinkn some coffee what u wanna do

[wanton dawn]

Idk. Just went home, bought some new shoes after splitting the bottom of my old ones

[latent parcel]

i got a 37 havoc

[wanton dawn]

got easy archivum 40

cranial and moebian

[latent parcel]

oh shit! no blight!

that sounds fun

[quartz falcon]

ahh yes the dogshit funny

[native wagon]

Dueling sword is usually the pick right?

[uneven hull]

Duelling Sword is always the pick.

At least as far as "optimal play" is concerned. It's a weapon without weaknesses.

[unreal nova]

It's always the best. Just super good except against mobian 21st hordes.

Then you suffer. Unless agile dodge spam and pray.

[native wagon]

Its also super fun to play

What should be the dump stat for it?

[uneven hull]

Mobility

60 mobility already gives you 5 Dodges (Max).

There should be a mod to rename Mobility to "Dump". I don't know a weapon where that isn't the case.

[loud belfry]

I saw some people dump cleave damage for DS?

[uneven hull]

There just isn't a point. Cleave will help you.

The only thing you are missing with dumping Mobility, is 2% dodge Distance, and miniscule amount of sprint.

^ This is 60% dumped Mobility DS

[unreal nova]

I personally dump mobility cos if you run WS, you are going to fling yourself around anyway.

[native wagon]

Thank you

[native wagon]

Oh thats way higher than my ilvl

[unreal nova]

Just don't do something like dump penetration and run WS. You will lrn2fly off gloriana.

[uneven hull]

This is just an example

[native wagon]

Can't send images yet to show mine, but will do soon

[unreal nova]

I'm not kidding.

[native wagon]

I got mine 310
Sadly its missing some cleave damage

[uneven hull]

Don't be concerned too much about that untill you are lvl 30 and have some Mastery on it

[native wagon]

But I thought its a good starting point

[unreal nova]

To be fair, if cleave damage/mobility is scuffed, it doesn't really matter. Only the other three really does.

You want 80 in those. Mobility/Cleave damage is more OCD things.

The extra damage is like 5 more damage based on some ppl's test.

So it barely matters.

And unless you use the DS2, you aren't really going to cleave anyway.

[native wagon]

Also what does Rending mean?

[loud belfry]

armor penetration basically. for most weapons their attacks do less damage to certain armor types (but full damage to unarmored or infested) rending makes the damage done closer to unarmored. I think that's how it works

[warm bolt]

[uneven hull]

To not overthink it, more Rending or Brittleness = More damage to armored targets. Especially relevant if you are going against Crushers, big Ogryns with clubs.

Rending is given to you as a buff, Brittle is applied as a debuff to the enemy. (Meaning Brittle benefits team as a whole, Rending is just for you).

[wanton dawn]

Also rending is not great on bolter, plasma, boltpistol, powersword among other thing cuz they hit rending diminishing return

Though it can be part of a bp i guess...

[hollow ibex]

rashad, because brumentum

don't need cleave if your blessing just lets you bypass it

[faint beacon]

Heavy Sword Deathblow

Shovel With Helbore Hotshot if you're forcing yourself into that combo

Yeah thats about it

[wanton dawn]

Alrighty, I need to see some some bolter h40 build

[grand perch]

reject bolter, return to helbore

[wanton dawn]

I am not playing hellbore until they bring back bm on it

[smoky sparrow]

what can i put on my bolt pistol instead of surgical?
the other blessing im running is puncture, and i tend to mostly hip fire.

[wanton dawn]

Ppl will say the explosion one cuz it works on frag

[grand perch]

Run n gun is 1 option of you don't want lethal proximity

[smoky sparrow]

ill try run n gun i suppose.
what is the close damage range for bolt pistol anyway?

[hollow ibex]

why not lethal prox?

you can hit all relevant breakpoints by just taking focus target, WS or MF

[smoky sparrow]

ill try run n gun first

i like it a lot on the ogryn guns

[hollow ibex]

having to sprint to get the extra damage... lol

[smoky sparrow]

its more about the weapon spread for me

you can damn near cross map with the bolt pistol already if you are cracked

[grand perch]

im guessing the close damage there is the same definition as with longshot talent, 12,5m and closer

[hollow ibex]

bistol already has good spread tho

and hipfiring also reduces your rpm on bistol

[smoky sparrow]

surgical + puncture might just be the best

imma fuck around with run n gun tho

its just too much fun to hip fire that bih

[hollow ibex]

surgical's not needed in most cases

and bistol gets the bad version of surgical

[acoustic wharf]

Can anyone help me pick which helmet bc I like them both and can’t decide

Nvm I chose the second one

[lusty sapphire]

Did they hit "randomize" when they made these??

Wtf is this

[smoky sparrow]

post your bistol pls

[lusty sapphire]

General use bistol

puncture gives a few bp and run'n'gun is just neat cause your gun is always ready to shoot

[smoky sparrow]

thx a lot for the input

i actually did go for lethal proximity first

ill try run n gun tho

[lusty sapphire]

It's good with frags and can stagger ragers in a blob of things. But I'd rather run around killing things and be able to shoot whenever I press my mouse

[smoky sparrow]

this made me get new bases

[toxic leaf]

my old gpu failed and i was forced to buy a new one. also may as well have bought a new system because intel 1700 is dead. so i did. anyways, do yall run with DLSS/RT? the RT is a huge performance hit without DLSS

[lusty sapphire]

You need to run dlss cause the optimization is really non-existent

Also you will not notice rt

Game somehow runs better at medium than at low settings

and the difference from medium to high settings... I cannot notice it

[light ridge]

Puncture is a must
I like Surgical because when ADS shooting , the BP takes quite some time to reset after each shot, roughly 30% crit worth of time

[gilded wraith]

Does charismatic extend the range of demolition team?

For the purpose of teammates triggering vet grenade gain?

[loud belfry]

no one should have RT on on a game like this

also darktide's optimization issues are mainly cpu sided

so although you could run DLSS, and it will help sometimes, when the game becomes cpu limited DLSS will actually not help at all. unless it's frame generation, then it always helps

[lusty sapphire]

Use the boltgun at that point

[quartz falcon]

MkIII all the way

[hollow ibex]

i use FT to hit the relevant breakpoints

[quartz falcon]

Man I am so sad I gotta wait until the Krieg Outfits rotate in again

[light ridge]

Meh, don't like the draw nor reload time of the boltgun

[quartz falcon]

Can you 1 headshot flak specialists?

I somewhat struggle w that, but my Bistol is 76% dmg, so maybe that tiny bit is the difference

[terse idol]

Personally I'm still LP puncture pilled

[hollow ibex]

yes, with 2 stacks on FT, which you should have

[quartz falcon]

FT?

[terse idol]

But run and gun is nice, and it's cool when ya tap and shoot just to get rag procs

[quartz falcon]

Bad w abbreviations, my Game is not in English

[hollow ibex]

focus target

this thing

[quartz falcon]

Ahh yeah okay, but without not?💔

[hollow ibex]

yeah without, you're not going to hit the breakpoint

bistol really loves FT or exec stance

[quartz falcon]

Why does the gun look so good, but feel so bad😭

Thanks anyway

Ye exec stance just kinda hard to keep stacked in Havoc rn

[hollow ibex]

oh for havoc?

doesn't matter too much ig

all the breakpoints go out the window for havoc lol

[lusty sapphire]

Yeah for havocs it works cause dots are king

[faint beacon]

Imo with havoc

The two upgrades on FT will help no matter what

minus 8 stack one

[lusty sapphire]

8 stack helps on bosses

[faint beacon]

That's it

when you could constantly be swapping the stacks to specials

to constantly keep your team topped on extra Damage + Toughness and Stamina

[lusty sapphire]

Depends on the team tbf

[arctic rampart]

raytracing is bullshit for the most part still. DLSS frame gen is supremely based in this game in particular, but in general. e.g. cybperpunk also gets big boosts from it.

I can't speak for AMD version at all, sorry. but for nividia any 4000 series card make sure frame gen is on asap

[loud belfry]

frame generation is goated and it's actually going to get better for everyone (4000 series and above) in a couple weeks

same with dlss getting improved for all (2000 series and up)

[heavy rover]

I see frame generation as a top-up feature, but that's coming from my native rasterization being pretty strong from the get-go.

[loud belfry]

yeah frame generation is a bit less useful when your base fps is <100

[heavy rover]

yeah

[loud belfry]

but in a slow game or during cutscenes then frame generation is basically always good

[arctic rampart]

yeah dlss3.5 last I heard, but I guess new versions are out which will get better still

[loud belfry]

dlss 4 is coming in a couple weeks cuz the 5000 series is releasing jan 30th

[heavy rover]

at least with my experience on my AMD GPU, I've liked that I can set an upper limit to frame generation. No need to run the GPU harder than I need to if it's, say, a pretty static scene

also helps prevent my room from getting too warm

[arctic rampart]

my fps sits at my refresh rate pretty much the entire game. it's not good by default though, even on 9800x3d. I had to turn some bullshit off like volumetric fog and the usual "make stuff blurrier but most people think it makes pretty sparklies" settings. and then shadows turned off from ultra-shadows-cant-tell-but-tanks-your-frames-30.

if you're having frame issues, you need to get a tool to help get a baseline then try making some of the config changes. capframex (https://www.capframex.com/download) is free. install it (usually requires reboot), capture with a game or psykarium for your baseline, make a change, capture again, decide if it helped or hurt. repeat until your performance doesnt suck. it will take like an hour or two but your performance should be fixed after. dont change settings randomly that people recommend, this is the path of madness. framegen though is a safe change that should always help.

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/talos-talosian-star-trem-star-trek-big-head-gif-12496470

by stacking suppression on my braced autogun + talents i can silence the ranged units with one shot

[arctic rampart]

in capframe x the thing that really helps in games like darktide is the 1% lows. this is what you see as "stutters" or "micro stutters" where it works great a lot of the time but when shit really hits the fan or the ogryn throws his big bomb your game lags.

[vernal harbor]

it's gotten to a point with that ye

but not going to lie my frames dropping to around 10 and my audio just blown tf out into pure silence for 10 seconds is incredible when you're left-righting billions of people in havoc with the relic or blaze greatsword

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-christoph-waltz-reward-gif-19314746

[arctic rampart]

@vernal harbor C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Fatshark\Darktide edit the user_settings.confg file set volumetric_volumes_enabled = false try this, works on some systems. you might not like effect but it helped me. In general turning off shadows, non-global lights, and fog is a tried and true method of improving FPS and visibility in shooter games...

[vernal harbor]

why would i do that

https://tenor.com/view/mgr-jack-mgr-raiden-raiden-metal-gear-this-is-my-normal-my-nature-gif-25734319

[arctic rampart]

so you don't get 10fps?

[vernal harbor]

i only need 1 to kill

10 practically spoiling me

[loud belfry]

damn...

daredevil moment

[arctic rampart]

https://media.tenor.com/PQreEw8d3fQAAAAM/tom-delonge-blink182.gif

[warm bolt]

Why is your bistol red

[hollow ibex]

i hate people who do this. don't be this guy

takes all the ammo

and barely top frags lmfao

[vernal harbor]

baby ass word ‘bistol’ i wish it didn’t kill me everytime someone says it

[hollow ibex]

triple dipped on one of the ammo crates

[vernal harbor]

dilara they’re ganging up on me

[pallid jetty]

busstol

[loud belfry]

red weapons at home mod

[loud belfry]

the world is different when you have the mod that shows ammo pickups (etc) through walls

[wanton dawn]

"Calling teacher from other class for help" energy right here

That being said, bistol sounds like a shady med pills

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stroke-cat-having-a-stroke-pet-animal-gif-7898751840225419814

[loud belfry]

i once saw someone pick up an ammo backpack

they had 100% ammo

and dont get me started about how when you drop an ammo crate every little timmy, no matter if they have 90%, 100%, or somehow 200%, will always press e on that fucking thing

[warm bolt]

Ah aight

[calm shard]

I mean I do it for grenades sometimes

[loud belfry]

i mean the large ammo drops, not the crate

he clearly did it for his throwing knife though

but other people were at like orange (or at least yellow) ammo so kinda cringe

[vernal harbor]

i actually intend and encourage frantically sometimes for the ogryn to use all four charges and nuke the next quarter mile

[calm shard]

oh

[vernal harbor]

can you replenish knives from crates??

[loud belfry]

you can replenish them from ammo pickups right?

[sage adder]

Tbh I kind of prefer how DRG did it where it showed 4 white bars for how much stuff someone has at any given time

[vernal harbor]

100% honest i have no clue

[sage adder]

While it could be inaccurate it still gave good rough estimates

[loud belfry]

that's basically what we have, to be fair. white, yellow, orange, red. that's 4 segments

[vernal harbor]

I just throw them when I have them but taking a crate when I only need knives is insane

You can get them back from kills I believe

[heavy rover]

yeah, DRG's ammo count is still helpful despite how it can be prone to error

[loud belfry]

(though the red segment is equal to 0% so it's low on the usefulness scale)

numericUI is a must-have mod for this reason tho

[sage adder]

HD2 made me realize I was spoiled because holy fuck

The ammo indicator for it is garbage

Take an Arc Thrower and it'll flag you as no ammo

[vernal harbor]

glorious braced auto gun with my 1000 rounds

“stop wasting bullets on hordes” shut up bitch im having FUN

https://tenor.com/view/machine-gun-predator-gif-18791345

[warm bolt]

I kinda wish the ammo pack showed how much charges it has left

[vernal harbor]

the idea is if you haven’t got a charge yet there SHOULD be one for you

[sage adder]

Yea so long someone doesnt double dip it should be there for you

[vernal harbor]

and you can tell who double dips at least as a cutthroat vet because my guy will always call you out on it

“limited ammo doesnt mean LIMITED TO YOU”

[grand perch]

cadia wouldnt have fallen if theyd gotten that ammo

havoc40 with exec + mf works but ouchie thats alot of damage taken

[vernal harbor]

they would have because y’all still would have failed them somehow…

[loud belfry]

that feature is great, gives noobs a hint that they did something wrong without any player having to say anything

[sage adder]

What triggers that anyway is it based on how much ammo you overfill or if you take a bunch of ammo drops while near max

[warm bolt]

[vernal harbor]

it’s based on assholes grabbing ammo if they have ammo and you don’t lmao

[warm bolt]

I want brauto now

[sage adder]

I heard the line for the Medicae once

[vernal harbor]

that’s why i like cutthroat because others are clever or play with words while the cutthroat vet just loudly says “HEY WHAT THE FUCK MAN”

can’t misunderstand who or what he’s talking about

[hollow ibex]

interesting. i didn't realize hitting the wall behind the target also gives hitmarkers

[sage adder]

Me playing as a very ammo hungry Ogryn praying that my teammates aren't also constantly using their ammo

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/wallshoot-wallshooter-shooting-wall-shooting-at-wall-shoot-at-wall-gif-26173154

[vernal harbor]

due to recent issues with ogryn stats im afraid until further notice my ammo crates are restricted from gunner ogryns sorry

also gun psykers??? sorry but i don’t believe in your build 😔

[sage adder]

Not my fault I only got 4 reloads worth of reserves at most

Like I'm playing GTFO

I really should play GTFO again sometime its been a while

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710745951236522019/1288252692149440512/caption-5-1.gif

[sleek garden]

just saw a smyker join my game and start smiting 2 bruisers

leaving

now i actually am leaving because the good player went down and i spectate the smyker and hes zapping a mutie

i joined a new game and immediately got trapped

[vernal harbor]

uhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhguhghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[frank ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/717498714259980378/1065134817974419557/attachment-1.gif

[vernal harbor]

im out of the house but this tells me my puppy is searching my desk

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-fish-spin-rotate-gif-15523891578742492731

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-27442765

[vernal harbor]

you guys are dropping iq points fast

[loud belfry]

how tf did it only hit like 3 keys

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-warhead-1984-gif-22374652

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/little-freak-ahh-freak-real-freak-hours-freak-ahh-blud-gif-123644642849031155

[calm shard]

you'd think they'd realize how comically ineffective it is at some point

[faint beacon]

Well I mean you have to rely on your shield psyker in order to do your job

that or tax the fuck out of yourself

and run smokes

[calm shard]

or you can just never miss a headshot

totally practical

[faint beacon]

the 50 Shooters ready to lay hell into you the moment you pop your head up:

[calm shard]

that's why you use counterfire on exe stance so you can use the same wallhacks they do to shoot them first

[vernal harbor]

I found earlier that with the right load out I can just close my eyes are suppress whole hordes with a few shots from my autogun

haven’t had ranged issues since

[faint beacon]

Unironic usage of KTHD

what the fuck is this heresy

[austere mica]

I don’t think they have wall hacks so much as they are just using their ears and listening for the deranged screaming

[vernal harbor]

the usual song and dance is seeing stalkers or gunners begin to fire and then I tag them, suppress them and a zealot using bolts past me going Mach 10 to kill them all

[grand perch]

i mean it works

i dont use it though, not on ilas

plasma profits quite a bit from it in havoc

[faint beacon]

Im genuinely on the boat of it needs some sort of rework that still encourages suppression but you get more out of it mainly cause FTE and Born Leader are arguably more better to use 90% of the time

[grand perch]

less the shield psyker and more the 2 book zealots

i dont play that build otherwise, would be torture

[vernal harbor]

there’s a blessing on my braced autogun for enhanced suppression and damage TOO suppressed targets

[faint beacon]

See what sucks is thats one of those "Bait" blessings

[grand perch]

latter one is a bit silly when dumdum exists

[faint beacon]

cause there's a few others that just does its job better

[vernal harbor]

with exec stance and the one talent for ranged units counting I just wash away everything

[faint beacon]

but yeah KTHD with it is like a good combo with it

[vernal harbor]

right but what I mean is that this build is OVER THE TOP specific so anything and everything that’ll get me to be the one trick pony I take

[faint beacon]

I personally think they should just make it a global debuff talent that decreases enemies suppress resist so your entire team can benefit from it

[vernal harbor]

so while there’s better options, keep in mind I also have those too

[grand perch]

still kinda bad