veteran-class

[crisp oak]

50 ordo dockets per kill

30 ordo dockets per lasgun shot

[queen fox]

...sure, if you wanna call it that

[crisp oak]

Jopall they literally call them indentured

[grand perch]

i want drookian fenguard but thats never happening

[crisp oak]

Not slaves

[warm bolt]

Oh these look cool

[queen fox]

Space highlanders lmao

[crisp oak]

Oh look its the tabith first

[warm bolt]

Personally i'd want some vostroyans (this one is without the gas mask they usually wear)

[warm bolt]

You know this reminds me, in one Tanith book they mention wrist-mounted flamers

[grand perch]

sounds like jokaero shit

[warm bolt]

Like officers in a planetary defence force on Sabbath it's called i think? just get them

[crisp oak]

Tbh Im set with my krieg set

All I need is a watchmaster greatcoat

[warm bolt]

Oh yeah it's golden, especially with the skull mask

Wait there is one?

Tbf out of the current rotation i've seen i dont really want anything except the commissar outfit and the steel legion drip

[supple wagon]

I wish the 53rd uniforms weren't black on black

Even a grey would've looked better

[warm bolt]

Some slight colour variation would be nice yeah

Maybe like camo pants

[crisp oak]

At least the 6th ones look nice

[supple wagon]

Yeah I was hoping we'd get the undersuit in that color

Speaking of, it annoys me that the 53rd uniform has different pants from the 6th

They're nowhere near as good imo

[grand perch]

the builds you see on fresh 30 vets applying for havoc 40
complete with 3 blue curios, 2 of which are wounds

[warm bolt]

I mean

At least they know how to stick to a certain goal

[thorn lark]

At least they have the correct shout

Hmmm tbh that build could work lol

The curios are problematic tho

[tame lodge]

True Squad Leader

[pale sand]

Don't forget these guys either. Luv me rough riders.

You gotta be some kinda badass to take a horse into combat in the 42nd millenium.

[wooden stirrup]

Isn't the plasma dump stat kinda weird?

Like it's two stats you wanna dump?

[pale sand]

69% therm, 71% charge I think for the “perfect roll”.

But honestly you can have one that’s Iike 60% charge 80-80 and it’ll be fine.

[grand perch]

@tired egret

[wooden stirrup]

Could I take 60% thermal resistance?

Lol that name

Since it'll help me proc my blessings faster in theory?

[tame lodge]

You'd have 7 shots

Instead of 8

[wooden stirrup]

Ah alright

[tame lodge]

Before overheating

[wooden stirrup]

How often should I be using the charged shots?

[tame lodge]

Honestly never

The tradeoff is not worth it

[wooden stirrup]

How many shots does it take up?

Blessings should be blaze away with either gets hot or rising heat right?

[warm bolt]

Think so, yeah

[hollow ibex]

check pins

[pseudo fiber]

I believe charged shots take up 9 ammo and do 2.5x damage while uncharged use 3 ammo and do 1x damage

[warm bolt]

Does anyone know the time for a store rotation?

[hollow ibex]

happend already

[warm bolt]

Yeah i know, i want to know how long it takes for the next one cause im not sure if i just wait for the next rotation to maybe get a steel legion one or just get the funny commissar hat

[tame lodge]

2 weeks

[warm bolt]

Aight thanks

[grand perch]

i somehow got a thousand extra rounds in reserve

[faint beacon]

What the fuck

Lmao

THIS IS THE FUTURE BRAUTO USERS WANT

[grand perch]

WEZ NEED THE DAKKA YA GIT

[warm bolt]

[pseudo fiber]

Dual wielding them

[warm bolt]

This is as close as we can get to "enough dakka"

[hollow ibex]

don't get your hopes up for any rotation, and don't plan around any of them being good/worthwhile lol

[orchid hemlock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVxGQRau7-4

oh no

what am I looking at? 💀

[crisp oak]

Is it keystoneless...

[orchid hemlock]

no

[hollow ibex]

medic build

[orchid hemlock]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[crisp oak]

Hahahahaha

[crisp oak]

The bp does nothing (except proc shredder)

No horde clear

[orchid hemlock]

"i use knife to proc uncanny and get more damage from the shredder bleed"

nah

[crisp oak]

Id unironically use the dueling sword for that

[orchid hemlock]

hes going knife

with no finesse or WS damage

[crisp oak]

Cuz agile

The bp will, like 4 shot gunners?

16 shot reapers

[orchid hemlock]

the grenades are the horde clear 🤓

[crisp oak]

Not enough

But yeah shits funny

My havoc 40 build is also scuffed so cannot make fun of him too much

[orchid hemlock]

there is gameplay at the end

he doesn't know how to do the heavy combo

hes light spamming on the mk6

[crisp oak]

As in heavy special?

This is why I use the mk3

[orchid hemlock]

no just the regular heavy

[crisp oak]

Only heavies

[orchid hemlock]

mk6 is mostly heavies and push

[crisp oak]

Yee

[orchid hemlock]

the gameplay is just him throwing a couple of grenades while the psykers/zealots are carrying his ass 💀

least delusional Darktide youtuber

[crisp oak]

My 40 build with psword/plasma

I'm also die way more in my succesful havok 40s than my unsuccessful ones

[dusty hedge]

survivalist and weapon specialist feel like basically required talent taxes in high havoc

and otherwise you just take all the good vet talents you can reach from that

fortunately most of them are accessible

[wanton dawn]

I use this if am solo vet

If other vet i take surv & go fire team and full mark keystone

[dusty hedge]

though I think left tree vet + recon would be really strong in high havoc for handling gunlines, it's just that you're purposefully giving up on gold toughness which is a hard ask

you have to be really confident in your team to handle everything that isn't a gunline

[wanton dawn]

Your team has to be really confident in you as well

[dusty hedge]

true

[crisp oak]

This with plasma?

[wanton dawn]

Ps/plasma yes

[crisp oak]

I see

I was running ws so I didnt have to reload ever

[wanton dawn]

I like agile for the huge swap dmg bonus. So i took tinkerer cuz its only 1 point

The 10% melee dmg is nice too

[crisp oak]

Yup

Anyway my scuffed build functions, just folds if things go badly

While fixing the situation

[hollow ibex]

AE is damn good but man the tax can be brutal

[wanton dawn]

Well, yeah...

[crisp oak]

With my current build considering swapping to rashad

[wanton dawn]

But frags are so good

[crisp oak]

Yee

Thats basically my thing

[wanton dawn]

Its like a mini-shout

[crisp oak]

60 crushers come->3 frags into the 60 crushers->stuck by a wall of metal->one taps me

I die

[hollow ibex]

Pathing to frags for WS plasma is just so damn expensive

[crisp oak]

All enemies have 25% or less hp

[crisp oak]

I mean you are pathing to shout anyways

[rocky elbow]

can anyone give me a meta veteran build?

[wanton dawn]

Its my pathing which is "weird"

[crisp oak]

For what

[rocky elbow]

Auric difficulty

[wanton dawn]

We just shared two h40 build

[crisp oak]

Auric has different concerns though

[wanton dawn]

Are they meta though

[crisp oak]

The tree I posted works

[rocky elbow]

sorry what mean h40? im new to the game

[crisp oak]

This works for most weapons

[wanton dawn]

Speedrunning

[crisp oak]

Or just dps ignoring ammo drain

Havoc makes you care more about ammo by not giving you any

[wanton dawn]

Basically "easier"

[dusty hedge]

Havoc rank 40, it's the highest difficulty for Havoc missions

and currently the hardest content in the game

only very specific builds tend to work there, the cheesiest ones

[crisp oak]

Some auric maels are harder

[wanton dawn]

Naah

[crisp oak]

But basically at the moment they buffed gunners immensely

Which makes them the main threat

[rocky elbow]

gonna nick this build, thanks lad! any suggestions on weapons? currently running the chainsword and plasma but personally i prefer the lasgun

[crisp oak]

Which lasgun?

[wanton dawn]

Its a powersword/plasma build

[rocky elbow]

not the recon one the default one

[lament wedge]

What ranged weapons would be closests to viable for H40 besides plasma/reconlas/boltgun/revolver?

[crisp oak]

Ilas, laspistol

Helbore

[wanton dawn]

Revolver hates h40

[lament wedge]

Should still be good for disablers and specials if you can hit the headshots

[crisp oak]

Basically weapons with good ammo economy

[crisp oak]

Nah itll take like 3 shots to kill a pus hardened sniper

[lament wedge]

ooof

[crisp oak]

Like a mag and a half for a trapper

[lament wedge]

that's why i love the recon las

[wanton dawn]

I though plasma had bad ammo eco ? Path lied to me

[crisp oak]

Plasma has ok ammo economy compared to a say iauto in havok

[rocky elbow]

Perks and Refinements? ty so much for helping me out

[wanton dawn]

Am joking.

[crisp oak]

I know

Just claryfying for crakus/popcorns sake

[crisp oak]

My plasma sword is power cycler, brutal momentum

[wanton dawn]

Checks pin guide

[crisp oak]

Perks are just what enemies you hate the most

[grand perch]

ive played two 40 matches with exec + MF and ilas IIb, worked okay with 2 zealots to provide space

[wanton dawn]

Mine would go shroud

[crisp oak]

Watched a h40 with helbore mk3

Exec stance

Gloriana

Was wild to watch

[tame lodge]

If you're the only vet on the havoc then it's very likely that you'll also be on anti ranged duty
Which is not Revolvers forte

[wanton dawn]

My fav build rn is exe mf bolter. I wanna try in havoc

[crisp oak]

Also revolver does not kill gunners well

[dry cloak]

volver is more of a special deleter

[scarlet cave]

Commisar Hat got me going SO HARD

[lament wedge]

yeah haven't actually tried revolver on h40 yet. Pretty much only played revolver for a long long time

[crisp oak]

Gunners take me like 3 healdshots on my zealot

Max stacks

[wanton dawn]

But i eat too much ammo

[crisp oak]

Run with 2 psykers and ankther bolter zealot

[wanton dawn]

H40 destroy revolver bp

[scarlet cave]

Imma die from hype.

[dusty hedge]

pus hardened and the enemy HP multiplier in high havoc combine to make all the single shot breakpoint guns like revolver basically worthless

[crisp oak]

Plasma still works because it has cleave

[lament wedge]

What about double barrel shotgun?

[wanton dawn]

Ehh

[crisp oak]

If you run it you arent doingnyour job

[dusty hedge]

plasma still works because it is the Omnissiah's gift to the Imperial Guard

[crisp oak]

Which is killing gunners and shooters

[lament wedge]

yeah figured as much... it has the bleed blessing at lleast xd

[crisp oak]

And throwing shredder frags

[wanton dawn]

Plasma works cuz it overkill like crazy

[crisp oak]

2 shots gunners with me

[lament wedge]

bolt pistol?

[crisp oak]

Same issue

Worse than the revolver

but it does buff your shredders

[dusty hedge]

bolt pistol runs into a wall of shittiness right around Havoc 25ish, even using Puncture to try and circumvent the Pus-Hardened problem isn't enough

[lament wedge]

bleed blessing should help a bit

[dusty hedge]

needing half a mag of bolts just to kill one pus gunner is terrible

[crisp oak]

It doesnt

[wanton dawn]

I play unarmored flak. And still have mark+agile

[rocky elbow]

Im trying to connect but getting failed joining server wat i do

[lament wedge]

thought bleed bypasses the pus harden

[crisp oak]

I need to check what I have

[crisp oak]

Not enough to save the bp

[lament wedge]

damn it

[dusty hedge]

4 stacks of bleed per shot isn't enough to hit any breakpoints

[tame lodge]

It does
But like
The guns with bleed aren't havoc ready

[tall torrent]

Boltpistol is playable in havoc

Not as good as Boltgun

But is playable

[crisp oak]

Your options are pretty much: recon, plasma, ilas, laspistol, hellbore

[lament wedge]

ilas?

[tall torrent]

Plasma, all 4 las weapons, both bolt weapons

[crisp oak]

Infantry lasgun

[lament wedge]

aah yeas xd

not a lot of choices

or build variance for that

[indigo totem]

ya'll memin but there is scoreboard mod at the end, you may not agree with the theory but the numbers don't lie i also take the knife for many more reasons than just uncanny bleed ramp , but for the sake of time that is the most important part, just because it's a medic build doesn't mean it's lacking in damage, give it a try, then make a decision rather than calling bad in ignorance, again refer to scoreboard mod at end if whatever i'm saying doesn't convince you, again this is a team based build not something i take for pure carry, there is more than enough damage for me to give up things like superiority complex and help my team out more, there is also true solo gameplay on the same channel with knife/bp grenade vet, just because it's not the norm doesn't mean it's not good 🙂

[wanton dawn]

Holy wall of text from nowhere

[regal bramble]

Bro went biblical

[crisp oak]

Why not agile, uncanny dueling sword?

[regal bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/pope-francis-blessing-gif-1481704290608981441

[lament wedge]

One weapon I don't change on vet though. It's the MK1 sapper shovel.

[crisp oak]

More defensive utility

[queen fox]

Bro out here giving the gettysburg address to a discord chat

[dusty hedge]

Agile blessing is so good on DS tbh, that dodge refresh is too useful not to love

[crisp oak]

Uncanny, and bleed procs, more damsge, basically the same mobility and draw time

[indigo totem]

i prefer bleed uptime and the extra mobility, i just like the way it feels more sometimes numbers mean less than synergy with playstyle if that makes sense

[crisp oak]

Yup

[hollow ibex]

At least the build has iron will

[indigo totem]

again go to the last 2-3 seconds of the video for the scoreboard though surely that will convcine you enough to at least give it a try first if not so be it, it is what it is

[crisp oak]

I also personally would drop twinned blasts and out for blood for some other nice to haves

Personally

[indigo totem]

i do for other builds but again this is just easy and effective for the general player

and works for h40

[broken spade]

i actually do have a grenade build with knife bistol that i use in havoc

It works well cause shredders are broken

[indigo totem]

can confirm and agree

[broken spade]

my tree is pretty different though

[indigo totem]

i don't doubt again this is a support/dps build it works best with a team, what i run in true solo is no keystone on grenade vet

[broken spade]

kinda doubled down on the bleed memes
Puncture bistol
Serrated blade
Shredder nades
with a mercy killer uncanny knife

[lament wedge]

ooh that's the idea i kinda had

[broken spade]

had to give up my keystone to commit to the bit

[hollow ibex]

Don't really need it tbf

[indigo totem]

i still prefer uncanny + lac/flesh in crit build, i don't have points for serrated though, i don't value that enough personally

[broken spade]

it started as a meme build in auric but it actually works better in havoc cause of the elite density

[crisp oak]

I would personally drop twinned blast for some extra support with tag (the dps boost on kill)

[hollow ibex]

For havoc

[indigo totem]

agreed superiority complex acts as the keystone more or less on a grenade build

[dusty hedge]

yeah serrated + mercy killer and Uncanny is the GOATed vet knife build, Lacerate is wasted on a Vet's knife

[lament wedge]

I haven't used keystones on vet havoc at all

[hollow ibex]

Lacerate is a waste on any knife

[indigo totem]

nah after hundreds and hundreds of hours of tb + grenadier i thought the same but can confirm it's much higher value than people thing, tb not only generates a grenade but saves you from throwing another to get to 12/16 stacks it double dips in value

[crisp oak]

Yeah

Just would double down on the support aspect

[broken spade]

Note that some of these decisions were made to commit to the meme and not actually optimal

[dusty hedge]

I don't know about "any" knife but Vets can skip Lacerate entirely and more than double their knife damage just by taking Serrated so they can get Mercy Killer active nearly 100% of the time

[indigo totem]

and disagree give royal blood and ratgirl lilian a geez with their true solo havoc 40, there is a reason they take it, consistency

[hollow ibex]

It's a meme blessing. You should be going for weakspots on a finesse weapon like knife

[crisp oak]

Lack of field improv does not spark joy

[tame lodge]

Nah lacerate is bad.
Knife likes finesse
Hitting bodies ain't it

[broken spade]

if i had 1 point, i would...

[crisp oak]

Field improv>twinned blast

[indigo totem]

it will inevitably be when there is 50-100+ enemies on screen

[crisp oak]

Cuz it affects the whole team while you are even dead

Its the most passive upside skill in the game

[hollow ibex]

That's why you don't take knife for horde clear on havoc

[broken spade]

there's not that many situations where it matters though

[indigo totem]

not dead specifically, the 30 seconds or so you're actually "dead" it doesn't work you have to be on the map

[broken spade]

especially with the lack of ogryns in havoc

[hollow ibex]

It's just inefficient as fuck

[crisp oak]

20 yee

[tame lodge]

Not even 50

[indigo totem]

that's what grenades are for? i am a grenade vet?

[hollow ibex]

Especially if 21st says hello

[tame lodge]

Knife lights have 3 cleave

[tall torrent]

Nah, not worth

[tame lodge]

That's less than a scab Bruisers

[hollow ibex]

Taking a melee with actual horde clear makes life much easier unless psyker has it handled

[wanton dawn]

Let the man live wtf

[hollow ibex]

He's the one arguing with me lol

I just said something andhes like nah

[wanton dawn]

Everyone is argumentative in this discord

[broken spade]

lacerate requiring you to hit bodyshots with one of the higher weakspot damage weapons

cringe af

[hollow ibex]

I can't believe this is controversial lol

Well I can

For certain people I guess

[unreal nova]

Just go Flesh Tearer.

[wanton dawn]

Personally i neither play knife nor have any interest in solo play so...

[hollow ibex]

Good man. It means you don't take lacerate

[slow spade]

Power knife when?

[hollow ibex]

Make it like power sword but no PC

[tired lark]

Finally got veteran master of war

[frank ether]

It does

[dusty hedge]

Lacerate is certainly wasted on Vets, but it's definitely not a meme blessing for Zealots. An extra 30% crit rate is not only a nice damage bump on a crit weapon like knife, it also feeds all their crit-based talents. You can say it's not optimal but you can't say it is useless.

[wanton dawn]

Well, this is vet chat

I know we get a lot of zealot here but come on

[broken spade]

even on zealot I wouldn't

very few builds this would make sense on

[tame lodge]

Nuh uh

[broken spade]

For example, if i had uncanny on one blessing slot and the other choice was between lacerate or riposte, i'd take riposte.
Not only would that give me most of the crit chance scourge would've given me, i could still proc scourge anyways and get both

and if i'm not running uncanny, running lacerate is also a questionable choice

[tame lodge]

Zealots can feed crits to themselves (chastise, shroud)
High crit chance
High finesse damage

On a finesse weapon

You should just aim for weakspots

[wanton dawn]

Meanwhile, zealot chat talk about lemon

[broken spade]

like would you rather run lacerate to more consistently proc the 30% crit chance,
or get 20% crit chance and also gain some consistency for proccing that 30% crit chance on top of it?

cause scourge applies bleed on crit anyways

[tame lodge]

There's no saving lacerate
It was just a blessing for filling gaps on hadrons cassino

[broken spade]

It's not even that good of a consistency argument.
Cause like, you'd end up with lower crit chance overall

[dusty hedge]

But it's always online, as opposed to only having a plus 20% crit bonus after dodging

[hollow ibex]

You can easily maintain 50-70 percent crit rate on zealot.

[dusty hedge]

actually you know what, I have a feeling I'm not going to be convincing anyone here so I'll just shut up

Everyone has their minds made up, this is pointless

[hollow ibex]

Why gimp your finesse damage for four stacks of bleed and slightly easier crit procs

[broken spade]

it's not even really easier crit procs than going riposte

[tame lodge]

It's because Lacerate is bad

[dusty hedge]

yeah yeah whatever

[tame lodge]

That's just it

[unreal nova]

Is just playstyle thing, I guess.

[broken spade]

you'll crit more on average from just going riposte cause scourge is up anyways and you'll have higher crit

[unreal nova]

Can't fault someone who wants to bodyshot.

[dusty hedge]

you can't headshot 100% of the time anyways

[tame lodge]

But I can enlighten on why lacerate is bad

It's my duty

Otherwise we'd live on a bleak world

Like 40k

[unreal nova]

If you are on controller, I'll agree tbh. But if you have a sub 50% weakspot rate, just use some other weapon.

[tame lodge]

Nah

It's point and click

[tall torrent]

Weakspot hit rate is much lower for most people and I think with Mk3’s light attack angles it’s excusable

But not really for mk6

[wanton dawn]

Meanwhile, i have finally l2p ds4

[broken spade]

okay so i'm not imagining it when i feel like i hit weakspots less with mk3

[unreal nova]

Wat. Are you saying my 65-70% weakspot rate is better than avg?

[tall torrent]

Riposte is still generally better if goal is to max crit chance

[tall torrent]

You have an avg of 65~70% with mk3 knife light atks into horde?

[tall torrent]

No the light atk angles are kinda just wack

For mk3 knife specifically

[unreal nova]

Mk3 is more 55%.

[tall torrent]

For mk6 it’s much much easier to get weakspot hits

[unreal nova]

That was mk6.

On controller.

[broken spade]

i use mk6 a lot more so i thought i was just not used to the mk3

i kept hitting shoulders and shit

[tall torrent]

U can get creature spawner and check

[unreal nova]

Is just pester someone for after match scoreboard stuff tbh.

[tame lodge]

New knife marks but all Lights are the same as mk3 L3

Shank gameplay

[unreal nova]

That would actually be funni.

[broken spade]

they should actually do that

stabs only

[wanton dawn]

I think you bored the youtuber away

[tall torrent]

I’m very good at boring people

[unreal nova]

Think he mad his blessings choices were meh.

[wanton dawn]

Well, he did won h40 with it

Oh well, idc

[unreal nova]

I mean, he might have gotten carried?

[dusty hedge]

looking at the clips of Big Dom's match it looks like all he does is throw grenades

[broken spade]

you can win h40 with bad build decisions just fine

[tame lodge]

I mean
With skills it's whatever because Lacerate still bad

[broken spade]

losing like 20% crit chance or whatever is not going to just lose you the game if you're already good at h40

[unreal nova]

The only real use is non-stealth solos from what I see.

[hearty panther]

can i just

lmao

[chrome pelican]

The Carachan update

[hearty panther]

everyone is always so insistent and stupidly funny about this shit

[tame lodge]

🤷

[unreal nova]

Knoife with parry???

[chrome pelican]

Sly marbo vanity set when

[hearty panther]

actually nevermind, i also dont care

[tame lodge]

🫡

[chrome pelican]

New night reaper knife-special attack where you shout a battle cry of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA and literally fly around the room stabbing people

[unreal nova]

Animetide now?

[chrome pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/sly-marbo-tts-sly-marbo-gif-18321831

[dusty hedge]

I hate meta discussions about Darktide tbh "lol no you stupid bad blessing bad player carried skill issue" is the default even when all you're saying is "it works"

can't say a damn thing without getting dogpiled

[broken spade]

because if it doesn't shift to a convo of why something is better/worse than something, it becomes kinda a nothing statement.
Most things work

no one wants to talk about why things aren't completely unplayable

[dusty hedge]

Many things don't work. Lacerate on Vet is a wasted blessing

[unreal nova]

Because anything works in Auric. Maybe except Shredder Autopistols.

[terse idol]

I mean

[tame lodge]

Lacerate in general

[chrome pelican]

Real

[broken spade]

shit that wouldn't work is like, autopistol with a melee that can't handle armor

autopistol dclaw

[dusty hedge]

Some things work okay. Lacerate on Zealot is okay. It's not optimal. It is okay. Instead you get "nah bad shit terrible you bad for thinking it okay"

[chrome pelican]

Autopistol needs some more variety ngl

[terse idol]

Well because half of it is like the discussion of why it's bad

[chrome pelican]

And a buff

[hearty panther]

meanwhile agathe clearing H40s with a dclaw and a shredder on the daily

[chrome pelican]

Maybe like akimbo auto pistols

[broken spade]

are they actually?

how does it do?

[hearty panther]

poorly if you suck at it

[broken spade]

cause that sounds actually horrible

[unreal nova]

Maybe show vid proof? Cos they might just be carried constantly.

[hearty panther]

turns out people get good at the builds they like and then perform

[broken spade]

is this like, kraks for armor

[hearty panther]

lmao if you think agathe is "carried constantly"

then i have nothing to say

lets be clear that nobody is crushing havocs at a 100% win rate

[chrome pelican]

I am

[hearty panther]

but this insistance that there are only certain ways to victory? its fucking old

we had this same circlejerk when HISTGs got added into the game

[chrome pelican]

I prolapsed the heretussy

[unreal nova]

Thing is, they don't show up here, nobody needs to know or care about random Youtubers.

[hearty panther]

it happened again when the Auric board got added

and it happened with maelstroms

now here we are with yet another new tier of difficulty and oh boy guys didnt you know its totally impossible this time if you dont play it meta

not like all those other times

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-very-poor-choice-words-gif-22861860

[chrome pelican]

i mean

[broken spade]

i mean i've said before that some poor build decisions isnt gonna lose you havoc if you're good at havoc

curious how that dclaw autopiss handles certain situations though

is it a vet with kraks?

or like, what class?

psyker BB?

[unreal nova]

But your team is going to have to compensate for what you can't do.

[broken spade]

zealot fotf?

i don't know who agathe is so i don't know what class they play

[tame lodge]

Wait

[chrome pelican]

Ngl we need to normalize rolling clown weapons in high tier to force buff rebalances on them

[tame lodge]

That fucking sucks against flak

😭

[broken spade]

yeah i assumed this was pretty unviable

so i'm curious how they get around it

like this is genuinely the worst thing i can think of

[unreal nova]

Is why I asked for vids and such.

[hollow ibex]

Skills obviously. Just git gud bro.

[hearty panther]

https://www.twitch.tv/agathae_

[tame lodge]

I mean
If it's havoc then there's a high chance of purgsyker

[wanton dawn]

I dont only watch ppl play dt when am dead

[tame lodge]

And like you just parry elites?

Or suppress gunners with the SAP?

[hollow ibex]

I never watched him play so I'm just trying not to judge too quickly lol

[tame lodge]

Although the ammo economy would be pretty bad

[unreal nova]

Ingame is kinda motion sickness to watch tbh. Pretty sure is just the weird delay.

[broken spade]

i'm not doubting but i'm just curious how they solve the issue

[hollow ibex]

(I'm judging already)

[hearty panther]

i clicked through the vods but i cant find one of them streaming dclaw + autopistol

but they were running that for a solid three days or so

[wanton dawn]

Nobody would want to watch me. I have high sensitivity

[hearty panther]

or i just missed it

[grand perch]

first video, jump to random spot, chat be like

[tame lodge]

Feels like I'm missing some lore here

💀

[hearty panther]

yea its a very brainrotted area

[wanton dawn]

Am too old for this i think

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/gross-disgust-gran-torino-clint-eastwood-gif-3880005

[hearty panther]

imagine a chatroom full of cicas

[broken spade]

maybe i'll look through the vods for a clear with that setup later. wondering how they handled it

[hearty panther]

oh wait

zealot chat

[tame lodge]

[unreal nova]

I mean, some people have that. The view is like... what is even that jitter.

[unreal nova]

That reminds me of why I don't look at any streams normally. If they have a large active chat... it's some level of cancer. And you hear any paid TTS.

[serene bough]

does anyone else look at the current vet premium cosmetic and think of Sgt. Johnson?

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-johnson-what-the-ladies-like-i-know-what-the-ladies-like-gif-15782897

[knotty bay]

what mark should i use for dueling sword

[unreal nova]

4 if meta, 5 if you like funny flying off maps, 2 if you care about hitting hordes.

[wanton dawn]

Deactivating video chat and comment on my phone was prob my latest greatest decision

[tame lodge]

2 is the best one but go for 4

Then Uncanny Precognition Riposte

I don't remember the perks

[unreal nova]

Don't think you can do that without logging in maybe?

[unreal nova]

I feel like you are going to summon someone here about the precog thing.

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrows-wink-gif-5753057

[tame lodge]

Eh I'm used to

[wanton dawn]

Dunno about twitch though. I dont use it

[unreal nova]

Neither do I, is why I couldn't get the skins and such.

[unreal nova]

I guess.

[tall torrent]

Any flavour u like
Mk4 is pure single target
Mk2 is mk4 but has H2 for horde
Mk5 has hilariously long distance dodges but do less damage

[tame lodge]

But like
Precog helps meeting bps for killing Groaners with the lights

[tall torrent]

They’re all broken op anyway

[wanton dawn]

Maybe i should try mk2

[unreal nova]

Why do you think I mention flying off maps with 5. Is funnier if you dumped mobility.

[tame lodge]

And if you critspot while Precog is up you can kill a walker

[tall torrent]

defences also affects dodge on it

[unreal nova]

Yes, basically.

[unreal nova]

Unless you are saying to dump something else for the funniest DS5 ever?

[tall torrent]

yea, dump defences

[tame lodge]

Well you see
If you have Uncanny you can dump penetration

I don't recommend doing so though

For the funny dodge mk5

[unreal nova]

HRM.

[tame lodge]

And WS for the funny dodges on top of dodges

[unreal nova]

Something to bring to Gloriana.

They can't push me down if I dodge myself off first, right?

[dusty hedge]

makes perfect sense

[wanton dawn]

I may or may not have died a lot in gloriana h40 first part by boss shield

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-a-chuckster-chuckster-super-mario-sunshine-super-mario-gif-16848064720943465838

[unreal nova]

Pretty sure many did. The knockback on that thing is too strong for Gloriana.

[wanton dawn]

Discord gif search is my guilty pleasure

[unreal nova]

I mean, is tenor. they just seem to be missing some stuff though.

[crisp oak]

Do you want to see some cursed ones?

[wanton dawn]

Go for it

[crisp oak]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-engineer-gif-26567122

[wanton dawn]

Sorry, cant beat the one my grandma send me on regular basis

[sleek garden]

https://tenor.com/view/cracka-ass-frozone-the-incredibles-bitch-crackass-gif-23467183

I'm fond of this one

[crisp oak]

https://tenor.com/view/behave-yourself-by-allah-taste-of-my-shoe-angry-mad-gif-17675875

[sleek garden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820099795410223125/1167669891218808883/IMG_1915.gif

[wanton dawn]

Uh oh, i think i triggered a gif happening

[sleek garden]

zealot chat runoff

[tame lodge]

Hop on tf2

[sleek garden]

It's soyjaks and anime girls

[crisp oak]

Nah engineer too sexy

With his 8 phds

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-engineer-dance-happy-gif-9269896

[crisp oak]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-tf2-team-fortress2-big-chungus-funny-as-hell-gif-19764574

Green me sentry on ramp

[serene bough]

this new modifier got me to finally try the rashad

such a beautiful weapon

why are there TF2 engineers in here

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515538475134998/1329514606770520174/ScreenRecording_01-16-2025_13-13-39_1.mov?ex=678a9e77&is=67894cf7&hm=4f8b6c3c5f2395cbb2a3ff30cc1d0b6373cc6677e7afcd739e1118cb21ea7565&

[crisp oak]

Enginseer class announced

[tall torrent]

Bring kraks

[serene bough]

delicious kill feed

yeah i got kraks for bulwarks only

[tall torrent]

I randomly queued into Mr Unc’s game on stream

That was me

[wanton dawn]

There is a new mod ?

[serene bough]

meme or

[wanton dawn]

Oh yeah

[tall torrent]

Higher ogryn spawn chance

Not as high as havoc

[crisp oak]

I need to run my ogryn for the penance

And vet.... for the penance

[grand perch]

I was really disappointed it wasn't only ogryns

every scab stalker replaced by reaper or some shit

[crisp oak]

Replace groaners with bulwarks

[hearty panther]

-endlessly overlapping voicelines-
NNNNNOO
STOPPPIN
MMMMEEEE

[tame lodge]

WRECKING CREW

[heavy rover]

VACUUM CAPSULE

[hearty panther]

mfw i get phalanxed to death by eighty bulwarks

[latent parcel]

i wish i saw that. was glorious

[wanton dawn]

You saw the one with psyker

[latent parcel]

ya that was awesome

[hearty panther]

"Hey dude you don't wanna fight him on the cliffside."
"Why not?"
-ledged literally one second later by the shield break-

actual interaction last night for me

[wanton dawn]

My worst yeet was was start of furnace after first stair. Mutie throw me below. Into dh

[latent parcel]

you got yeet'd 3-4 times that day we played

[wanton dawn]

Yep. Was a good yeetday

[latent parcel]

^

[austere pine]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[wanton dawn]

Alright. Am gonna come home and kill some big men i guesz

[latent parcel]

your gunna come home to some big men?

[wanton dawn]

[supple wagon]

Average for honor duel

[grand perch]

another fresh 30 queuing for h40

[faint beacon]

He’s so fucking ready

[graceful sigil]

Any way to cheese the "Make Every Shot Count" penance? It just feels tedious trying to stick to a hidden stat and also keep my bullet count at zero

[crisp oak]

Use plasma

Charged shot into hordes

Dont bring survivalist

[crude fiber]

Lawbringer shotgun special shot is hard to miss with. I heard ammo regenerated by survivalist doesn't count as long as you don't pull your ranged weapon out again after reaching 0 ammo

[desert viper]

ads revolver

[past haven]

I think I did that one with the Zarona and a melee-focused build. Not much ammo makes it easier to make sure you hit every shot

[desert viper]

that's what I used, anyway

[crisp oak]

I used plasma because you can get more than 100% accuracy per shot

[past haven]

Ooh, interesting. Didn’t know the game counted accuracy like that. Maybe a man-stopper shotgun would work well too, then.

[crisp oak]

Maybe

But plasma goes through bulwark shields

Most other things that counts as a miss

[graceful sigil]

Can't be the case because I keep failing it, despite the fact that I most likely barely miss the 90% mark

What about On Overwatch? This one seems genuinely tedious with how many melees spawn even on Malice

[tame lodge]

You can take a hit on your toughness

[graceful sigil]

Wait really?

[tame lodge]

So as long as you're max or yellow toughness you'll be fine

[graceful sigil]

Is there a recommended perk tree for it? I assume that the +50% reduced toughness damage above 75% toughness and the invis ability are good

[crisp oak]

Commit suicide at the start of the map

Have the other people 3 person the mission

[graceful sigil]

Need a premade for that

Is it doable with bots?

[crisp oak]

Yup

Nope

[unreal nova]

It is doable with 2 people, you just need someone who can solo malice for it.

[tall torrent]

double barrelled shotgun

[sleek garden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/I7MXpCce8m

[austere pine]

no survivalist revolver good melee

doesn't get any simpler

dump mags into hordes and never pick up ammo

[untold mulch]

Oh emperor I forgot Heresy HiIntensity + Gauntlet is basically a hidden difficulty modifier

[narrow frost]

how so?

[untold mulch]

Because is filled with people who has a 50% chance to poop their pants if they have to walk and speak at the same time

[narrow frost]

I see

[uncut pebble]

I open vet chat and am not immediately assaulted with the most violent of brain rot.

Today is a good day.

[uncut pebble]

It does, actually. Use a shotgun.

[latent parcel]

atleast vet chat isnt as bad as zealot chat

[uncut pebble]

Accatran shotgun has the lowest ammo pool iirc.

[unreal nova]

Err, wut?

[uncut pebble]

I have seen some absolutely horrendous takes be endorsed in this channel, said takes do not survive ij zealout chat.

[unreal nova]

You sure you aren't glitch viewing on Zealot mains?

[latent parcel]

🤣

i think i get worse at the game everytime i open zealot chat

[uncut pebble]

Ask a proper question regarding builds in zealout chat and there is a 95% chance you get an objectively correct answer.

Bonus points because we are so bored of our class being the same build that we play other classes so we have knowledge of them.

[unreal nova]

I think you were late for that.

[uncut pebble]

Uh huh...

[unreal nova]

Well, is over now. Back to complaining about the cash shop, about stealth loner zealots and the new event being auric only.

[latent parcel]

new event should be h40 ogryns instead of regular ogryns

make them 1 shot in auric!

[wanton dawn]

I think there is not enough ogryn in ogryn event

[latent parcel]

^

[unreal nova]

I found out you can tank them with funny H40 build. You can eat 2 overheads before Until clutch procs.

1 will leave you with 37~ HP.

Maulers overhead will leave you with 87~ HP.

This is just Zealots having oggy lvls of HP.

[latent parcel]

until crutch 🤣

[untold mulch]

Daily, Hellgun when

I am tired of using my shovel to kill carapace, but I refuse to drop my las

[latent parcel]

why tho? JUST DODGE!

[unreal nova]

Sometimes, when your team had no clears but 2 dueling swords... It happens.

[orchid hemlock]

Rashad

[tall torrent]

That Rashad is truly one of the weapons of all time

[amber mortar]

I hope columnus will get some nice buff

Its kinda sucky

[tall torrent]

Which gun

[crimson pebble]

columnus bad

[amber mortar]

Mk V

[hollow ibex]

Depends, which one

[tall torrent]

Infantry autogun?

[amber mortar]

Ye

[crimson pebble]

what if i told you thats the best one and also one of the best ranged all around

[tall torrent]

That’s already one of the best guns in the game lol what

[crimson pebble]

[amber mortar]

Nuh uh

[hollow ibex]

Are you using a low power one?

Once you get an optimized one, it's a beast

[crude fiber]

Erm that's the vraks now

I think

[uncut pebble]

Yes, old columnus is now vraks, and old graia is now columnus.

Vraks autogun is the highest dps weapon in the game outside of something silly like scriers psyker with infernus recon.

[crude fiber]

current columnus is just a less recoil less dps vraks which makes it bot very appealing to use imo

[hollow ibex]

It's not too bad tbh

[tall torrent]

I’m not sure if he’s talking about the mk5 or the mk8

[hollow ibex]

Better ammo economy

[hearty panther]

i dont know anything anymore

[uncut pebble]

I'm also confused on this.

[tall torrent]

Because mk8 is called Columnus now

[crude fiber]

brown is worse then blue

[uncut pebble]

Gotta love when they rename weapons for no reason.

@amber mortar which mk autogun is it? 5 or 8?

[broken spade]

i'm like 90% sure he's baiting

[crimson pebble]

.

[hollow ibex]

It's not for no reason. They intentionally want to confuse players.

[broken spade]

no one who's been here enough to call it the columnus would call it bad

[crude fiber]

I wouldn't be sad to see it buffed tbh

[amber mortar]

That one with big mag

[crimson pebble]

[tall torrent]

Both are big mag…

[uncut pebble]

I dont think it's fatshark's fault this time. Probably GW's.

[tall torrent]

There’s vraks mk5 and columnus mk8

[amber mortar]

I need to check it

[hollow ibex]

Perhaps but there's stuff like the recon lasgun renames which just reek of fatshart

[slow sky]

[autumn sorrel]

Does lethal prox still work with grenades?

[narrow frost]

yes

[autumn sorrel]

:D

[willow spruce]

Which shovel is the main heretic bonker rn?

[tame lodge]

Standard or 7

[willow spruce]

kk thx mate

[stray nebula]

What's the fastest melee weapon for veteran that's good for horde clearing?

[midnight wyvern]

is there a more effective overall bolter setup to be running than Cavalcade and pinning fire? am thinking of setting up another or maybe just interchanging the blessings whenever I want to run the dif build, but am mostly running Cav and pinning to meme on bosses with middle keystone and shout/kraks, I do want to push into more 5s and auric though

[tame lodge]

Hordes alone Chainsword

[hollow ibex]

In practice, Rashad

[crude fiber]

devil claw

[sturdy karma]

Love that light spam

[sinful swallow]

I take surgical/puncture, reaches a lot of one shot breakpoints with the crit

Puncture lets mag dump max bleed fast, I generally don't like blasting ammo on bosses but the dmr play style is the only way I play vet now

[sturdy karma]

I actually prefer the bolt pistol as a DMR it’s got similar breakpoints and way faster on the pullout and reload speed

Bolt pistol focus target can one tap reapers if your running surgical

[sinful swallow]

Don't you need DA for that too though

[radiant chasm]

puncture shattering also does good breakpoints

guaranteed crusher ones

[sinful swallow]

Y'know id heard about that too but I haven't tried it

I run exec stance over shout since that pushes a rager one shot too

[burnt vortex]

What range weapons benefit the most off ex stance?

Like would it be wasted on recon or does it just juice up all guns

[sinful swallow]

It juices all guns up pretty good

You get more mileage out of ones with good reload, you can do some reload cancel tech on bolt gun to keep it going through a reload

You'll see lower results with guns like plasma/revolver/shotguns

But the 3round vigilant auto is pretty nuts with it too

[hollow ibex]

Recon is one of the guns that benefits less from it

But yeah otherwise it's a good damage boost overall

[midnight wyvern]

fair points, I mostly decided to try the build to begin with to see how it would be, originally it was on Zealot, got a bolter on Vet and man, it slams so hard I love it, can kill any boss on 4 other than DH by just shouting and hipfiring their head/back weakpoint on BoN ofc, just satisfying, with Kraks it kills DH

tried the same thing on 5, works on normal bosses, DH scare, pretty much have to have red stim

[stoic thorn]

Female cutthroat is kinda lacking in the voc voiceline department

Ngl

The male cutthroat voc lines are peak

You can feel the hate in it

[midnight wyvern]

is cutthroad cadia man?

[stoic thorn]

Yeah

The one that never shuts up about cadia

And I love him for it

[midnight wyvern]

yeah I love the voice, the only one that has some force to it lol

other ones sound kind of bored

[sinful swallow]

Shout krak stunlock is also euphoria

I do this whenever maelstrom with monster specialists comes up. Far and away my favorite modifier

[midnight wyvern]

[tall torrent]

Gets crusher 3 headshot which exe stance + marksman already can achieve

It’s not really that much value for veteran

[full osprey]

I like the bolt pistol and chain axe

Two of my main weapons

And I use krak grenades for bigger enemies

[sleek garden]

this is a better version of my current helmet

i need this

it fits perfectly with the armor

[rocky elbow]

So i saw the hammer of the emperor guide in pinned and i want to get better at the game but i just cant be bothered to read so much text for a video game. Was hoping maybe someone had made a video about it

[lunar jasper]

If you don’t wanna read then watch build tutorial videos where they explain it on YouTube

[hollow ibex]

Just ctrl f and read the parts you need

No need to read all 100 pages unless you want to

[tall torrent]

You can skip to parts u want to read about

[hollow ibex]

You need to break the guide up into 200 TikToks

[calm shard]

subway surfers and keys jingling halfway through every paragraph

[fresh dome]

Never knew the Hellbore was that good

[tame lodge]

Well it's an acquired taste

Mk4 is my personal favorite

[past oriole]

the hunt for the elusive 17% toughness curio continues

[terse idol]

there's not alot

Ogrynomicon has aloootttaaa text

[unreal nova]

Which is weird considering it's for Oggys.

[past oriole]

most of it is larp

i like the ogrynomicon weapon combo pictures though

[grand perch]

I disagree

[unreal nova]

But yeah, someone complaining about Hammer of the Emperor when it's the most concise guide to weapons is kinda weird. (Also, when easy ref to every other class weapons?)

[grand perch]

Yeah looking stuff up in the other classes guides is awkward compared to what path did

[stoic thorn]

Zealot doesn't even have any weapon guides I think

[unreal nova]

(Please @tall torrent, gib concise guide to every other Class weapons. I know I can easily ask Psyker main but still.)

[unreal nova]

Only loose info unless you want relic info, and that requires you to dig into the cesspit that is Zealot mains. So you'll end up scarred trying to find stuff.

[normal sparrow]

Theres a crusher guide thats like 1 year old

[unreal nova]

Even then, that's like two melees out of I can't remember how many at the moment.

[hollow ibex]

It's mostly still up to date at least

But yeah zealot could use a comprehensive guide

[normal sparrow]

Zealot?
Th, evis, crusher, relic blade, the rest goes into shared weapon pool which likely have similar suggestion between class

[normal sparrow]

Nothing change much outside slaughterer as 2nd blessing and slower attack speed

[hollow ibex]

Did it get nerfed?

[tall torrent]

wait 5+ months

[hollow ibex]

Idr it getting nerfed

[normal sparrow]

Slower attack chain, highly noticeable if you used to it pre nerf

Pre shock maul/double barrel patch

[hollow ibex]

Huh idr it getting nerfed

I haven't played it in a while

[unreal nova]

Similar, but the naunces in them might be different. Because one takes advantage of certain blessings better and such.

[unreal nova]

So you mean Valve time?

[normal sparrow]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-2/96132

[tame lodge]

Oh yeah
FS forgot to add to the notes at the time

Like the rager buffs

Shooter buffs

[tall torrent]

Could take more

[unreal nova]

Probs a better bet than most tbh.

[normal sparrow]

Thats why i say likely similar

[unreal nova]

Yeah, still, the guide has easy lookup to the horde/ST clear combos of said weapons. It's just that useful?

[normal sparrow]

The crusher guide?
I dont remember

[unreal nova]

Everything else, except a certain evis mark because if you can't figure out the 15th mark... are you serious?

[normal sparrow]

I dont think anyone would bother making one, we dont have royale w cheese here unlike vt2
Most would stick with recommended stat perk blessing and call it a day

[unreal nova]

I guess, still nice info to know for someone new or not who just want the minmax combo.

[normal sparrow]

Go swing them a few mins in psykh and ignore jank weapon like fgs

[hollow ibex]

Lmao ofc

Funny that they nerf the crusher but not the DS

[unreal nova]

_> The Mk6 is not jank, you are jank. HRMPH!

[normal sparrow]

Youre a psyker, why youre not using your staff
Like 9 out of 10 im pulling my melee is to poke elites anyway

[hollow ibex]

Staffker 🤮

[unreal nova]

I'm actually a vet. I just play with psykers.

Because vet mains full of boring numbers at times so run off with the half mad crowd to slack off, yes?

[sleek garden]

every time i get on darktide theres either a zealot or psyker in the squad

i have not had 2 ogryns 2 vets in a long time

[unreal nova]

Cos those two are the meta havoc picks and I feel like ppl are to lazy to switch from inbetween havoc runs.

I know I ended up bringing my H40 zealot build into auric and can tank 1 overhead from a crusher without until clench proccing.

I have Oggy lvls of hp on that build mind you.

[umbral parrot]

MAN trying the new game mode. It's sooooo BORRING ~! ! !!!

Like.... after doing nothing but HAVOC, I feel like everything is underwater. Lol.

Like... the enemies are too slow, my team8s are too slow, I have a lot of free time in between and there's nothing going on lol. Dang

[latent parcel]

i blame karien for not telling fatshark to make the ogryns havoc lvl 40 ogryns

they coulda been so COOL

[unreal nova]

You are eating 54 kraks.

[latent parcel]

thats more then last time

[umbral parrot]

Lol.

It's just....

Like i feel like i can see everything now. Like, dang. Psyker levels of 3rd eye opening kind of status.... which i'm not by the way!

[unreal nova]

Don't make me go purloin some nukes.

[latent parcel]

KABOOM

[unreal nova]

Would be fun if you ate 18 nukes.

[latent parcel]

Why do u hate me

[unreal nova]

You keep embarrassing me in public, what did you expect?

[latent parcel]

when did i do that

[sleek garden]

right now

you're acting stupid and its giving me secondhand embarrassment

sorry

[latent parcel]

you caught me

she keeps throwing kraks at me what did u want me to do? nothing?

[unreal nova]

It's all the time. Embarrassing me even when in other mains.

[latent parcel]

_>

[past oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hsr-honkai-star-rail-vr-chat-soundoriented-gif-6767012910116082578

[sleek garden]

https://tenor.com/view/you-too-loud-rn-can't-win-shut-up-gif-5469559028242945131

[unreal nova]

Wut.

[remote sonnet]

We need to make a # stopbullingKarien.

[umbral parrot]

Also, another thing after playing a lot of HAVOC..... VoC is sooooooo good. I hate how good it is. Why can't infiltrate be as good!?

[unreal nova]

Gold toughness allows you to tank bs you can't otherwise.

[umbral parrot]

Yea, gold is so OP.

Even with stealth's damage reduction, it just can't compare.

If leaving stealth kept your movement speed as well as give you extra stamina, it would be pretty badass. Though that would be too OP as well.

[grand perch]

would be cool if infiltrate CD would be reduced for every enemy you suppress when leaving stealth. you know, kind of like zealot getting backstabs for less CD, you also use infiltrate for its intended purpose

infil CD is too long anyway

Maybe get infinite infil uptime with tactical awareness

[frank ledge]

Sam Fisher

[viscid flax]

i need some thoughts on the quickdraw revolver, which build would be best to play to its strengths?

i run it with desperado/voc/melee

but.. maybe i am missing sth

[quartz nymph]

I can't imagine myself doing the on overwatch penance

There's always 1 dude in the shadows that gets me

[unreal nova]

You can ask for cheese. The hang till death while 3 others run it.

[quartz nymph]

There's a cheese?

[unreal nova]

I just told you.

[analog mural]

Simply don't take melee hp damage

[unreal nova]

You find 1-3 others willing to help.

You hang at the start and die without ever getting hit.

They solo-duo-trio it and never rescue you.

Make sure if on solo, both bots go off a drop down first before hanging.

[quartz nymph]

That works? Crazy. Never would've thought of that

[rustic beacon]

Spam shout any time an enemy comes near you. If you don‘t have golden toughness play super careful and only run around blocking. Should get it that way in 1 or 2 attempts if not unlucky

[unreal nova]

Is the cheese. It still works for now.

Solo is viable if you get a decent player since it works on malice from memory.

[rustic beacon]

Yh only malice is required

[unreal nova]

This is really if you are tired of trying and trying and just constantly failing.

[quartz nymph]

Starting to get there. At it for like 5 days

There's always one dude who wacks me

[analog mural]

If you are full toughness when you take the hit you will be fine

It is when you take health damage from melee

[unreal nova]

VoC helps. I did no hit heresys gremlining around, but to some, it's extremely stressful and tiring so I can understand wanting to just be done.

And trust me, when you get frustrated, you end up taking it out on everyone else near you even over a stupid game. So best get it done and over and slack off again. And yes, Auric Exemplar and the 15 no downs one basically had me hate every single random for screwing me over constantly.

[dry cloak]

Having a friendlt zealot with a book also helpa a lot

[unreal nova]

But when you are stuck solo... yeah. At least I had some of the best psykers/vets helping with ASS/Auric Exemplar, tbh.

[dry cloak]

I dont care for ass title

[quartz nymph]

Yeah it's just me in quick play solo trying to get it

[unreal nova]

But I know the feel from 15 no downs malice when I was newer.

[dry cloak]

I prefer using titles i got from regions

[quartz nymph]

Kind of a bummer

[unreal nova]

I want penance points. I don't even use titles.

[dry cloak]

I helped a friend gwtting it

[dry cloak]

I have all the points i wanted

[unreal nova]

I need them for the last pose. Lul.

[dry cloak]

Aye

[analog mural]

Best pose is still the zealot "when you nut but she keeps sucking" pose

[unreal nova]

Nu. Wryyyyyyyyyyyyy

Only need to slam a bulldozer down before.

[remote sonnet]

That zealot pose...

[rustic beacon]

I wish vet and ogryn had cooler poses. Both zealot and psyker have awesome ones

[remote sonnet]

Vet is fine. Only Ogryn needs better.

[rustic beacon]

The only 2 decent vet poses are the pointing one and the regular „hand on belt“ one imo

I hate that most other poses use the las gun even though you are using smth else

[unreal nova]

Excuse me, I'm a gremlin. I'll take a rest after a run, thanks.

[remote sonnet]

The resting gun is nice. That's how soldiers stand with guns during down time.

[unreal nova]

Yes, I use the sit on ground one.

[rustic beacon]

I love how you can barely see the vet behind titles and whatever with that pose 😄

[unreal nova]

Wat titles?

Titles are for ASSes.

No title gud.

[rustic beacon]

Nah, titles give flavour. Explorer and cyber-falcon are pretty cool for vet imo

[dry cloak]

Ogryn has pulling up pants emote

[remote sonnet]

The back pain emote is so dumb.

[unreal nova]

Eh. I rather be titleless and a gremlin.

[unreal nova]

Fits if you can really solo carry.

[remote sonnet]

The other day, I saw a squad spamming the emote in lobby with female voices.

So it was just moaning in the Mourningstar...

[unreal nova]

Heh.

[rustic beacon]

Btw, the lighting effect from the new skull backpack on the havoc helmet perfectly matches the color of the bombadier frame

[unreal nova]

Too lazy to get it. Want the commissar cap anyway.

Where aim at teammate to buff them to shoot better???

_>

[rustic beacon]

I for some reason can‘t get into those commissar type cosmetics. I prefer the armored soldier looks

[pseudo fiber]

Isn't the commissar cap in the shop right now

[unreal nova]

I like to play the gremlin who totally did not purloin a commissar hat.

[unreal nova]

For $5.

[pseudo fiber]

Yes

[unreal nova]

And.

[pseudo fiber]

I mean if you want it you can go get it

[unreal nova]

But then I can't afford the commissar set if it re-release.

[pseudo fiber]

Fair point

It might be a new set next rotation

[lucid bough]

This is from a havoc 40 build. Maybe I am just too smoothbrained to understand this.

[grand perch]

Absolute 4d chess curios

[unreal nova]

And I thought 3 stam 21 21 with cdr corruption resist and hp was weird.

[warm bolt]

How did they make to h40

[unreal nova]

IDK, I got carried though.

[warm bolt]

wish someone would carry me to at least h25 cause holy shit is it hard with randos

I wouldnt be as salty but when it easily takes half an hour to find even ONE team

[unreal nova]

SEA? I did EU games for it.

[warm bolt]

Nah, EU

[unreal nova]

EU gaming be like 8 hours from now though.

[warm bolt]

That explains it

[pseudo fiber]

EU gamers are in work

Like me

[unreal nova]

Yep. I just know for reasons. Yes.

[remote sonnet]

You are awake 24h/day, Karien.

Are you an Ad Mech?

[unreal nova]

Nu.

[unreal nova]

Do you want 54 kraks?

[remote sonnet]

Killing me won't cover up that fact.

[unreal nova]

Still not Ad Mech.

[tough tiger]

awake 24/7? bro needs to touch cogs fr

[unreal nova]

Don't you join them...

[normal sparrow]

How many cogs?

[stoic thorn]

God I hate gunners

I get turned to Swiss cheese

Too fast

I only two shot them with the fire shotgun

[remote sonnet]

And yet people run around in melee against them.

To be fair, the fire shotgun is just a glorified melee.

[slim creek]

I was running Bolters with Cavalcade and Marksman Focus on Havoc 30+

Two headshots or three usually kills most gunners even with the hardened skin modifier

[unreal nova]

I'm purloining nukes for this.

[full osprey]

You ever see a daemon host and have the urge to shoot it

[sage adder]

i sometimes shoot it by accident

or poke it by accident

at least unlike the L4D Witch you have leniency if you accidentally hit them once

[pastel pumice]

yeah i shoot it

yeah i aggro it

no, i dont kill it

yeah, i die to it

[unreal nova]

The witch dies way faster though if you know what you are doing.

[sage adder]

tfw 1200 health that you can just one shot with a crown

[unreal nova]

Yes.

No need build, just need shotgun.

[viral hazel]

I don't tag the DH in non-auric missions the moment I do someone will dive head first into it

[warm bolt]

I mistook it for some chaff rabble way more than once

So imagine my surprise when i hit some random poxwalker, this mf does not go down, starts glowing and beating the shit out of me

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/coach-l4d-gif-26636434

[viral hazel]

I don't think I've ever mistaken the DH for anything else but I have definitely grazed it while clearing gunner packs that always seems to spawn and take cover around it

[warm bolt]

I mean that's kinda smart on their part

[unreal nova]

I mean, hide behind dangerous stuff to your enemies gud.

[warm bolt]

Btw is combat shotgun good?

[unreal nova]

Nope.

[warm bolt]

Melk keeps tempting me with it for 3 days now

Oh

Shame

[unreal nova]

Agripinna is just worse Bolt Pistol.

Got more stagger sure, but reload between every single shot.

The fire one just does no damage.

[dry cloak]

i mean if youre gonna use it on normal damnation for fun

then sure its nice

range is decent

[unreal nova]

The last is eh.

[dry cloak]

because darktide shotties are not your game shotgun trademarked

[unreal nova]

Double barrel or just run Bolt Pistol.

[dry cloak]

kantrael is weird i agree

but i used it the most

now switched to agrip shottie

[midnight wyvern]

I used to like the slug, then I used better weapons 🤷‍♂️

[unreal nova]

Basically.

[dry cloak]

i run them mostly because i like shotguns in games

[unreal nova]

They need a decent buff and their special ammo be a toggle.

[midnight wyvern]

let me have the entire mag, or the entire mark of the weapon as slugs and based around doing slug things, or fire things

or whatever the 3rd does

[dry cloak]

toggle with separete ammo pool

[light ridge]

Throw grenades at approaching horde
Daemonhost was taking a nap right there