hellbore mk3 also has a usage in that you won't run out of ammo
#veteran-class
pale pecan
I use the Mark 5
My personal fav
I've been running that with Armorbane and Catachan for quickly dispatching armored targets
tall torrent
hellbore mk3 also has a usage in that you won't run out of ammo
helbore in general doesn't run out of ammo
but they are pretty wack to build & play
empty root
High skill ceiling
viral nacelle
Helbore just feels like ass compared to bolter
Idk if the devs have noodle arms but the draw speed on it is comical
It does not take that long to shuck and draw a rifle from the shoulder
hearty panther
just dont ever put it away
viral nacelle
If it could block like any other rifle used for bayonet drill that’d be what i do
Idk why the special doesn’t switch it to a melee mode with a full moveset
tall torrent
Idk if the devs have noodle arms but the draw speed on it is comical
Valorant tier draw speed
wicked epoch
What blessings for dueing swords
normal sparrow
but they are pretty wack to build & play
I tried running them after hotshot blessing explanation, then forgot they have 10 century draw time 
They gone away with the old mk 1 2 3 variant too, i have no idea which one im using
tall torrent
I tried running them after hotshot blessing explanation, then forgot they have 1...
mk1 = IIIa
mk2 = V
mk3 = IV
normal sparrow
mk1 = IIIa
mk2 = V
mk3 = IV
Im not going back into them, theyre more like stats stick for my shovel that entire game 
tall torrent
Im not going back into them, theyre more like stats stick for my shovel that ent...
yea pretty much
orchid hemlock
astral wedge
@tall torrent just joined the server and see your pin for a comprehensive Veteran guide dated ~9 months ago. Are you able to tell me how up to date that guide is or if it's been converted to steam? Thanks for your efforts
austere mica
It’s up to date
They are working on a port to steam though
(With vastly more info)
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> just joined the server and see your pin for a comprehensiv...
It’s relatively up to date but may not be fully accurate in some parts
Still mostly reliable for learning the game
If u have specific questions u can ask me in dm as well, I don’t mind it
astral wedge
ok tyvm
austere mica
I can test Manstopper more thoroughly tomorrow if you want btw
tall torrent
I can test Manstopper more thoroughly tomorrow if you want btw
Go for it
tall torrent
Moebian 21st groaner is 1.5 mass
austere mica
And ragers are like 8 normally
tall torrent
Oh damn that limit is relevant
Sorta
Idk who would bring a shotgun into havoc tho
tall torrent
Well, scab rager is
People still think dreg rager is much more threatening than scab rager despite tons of evidence
austere mica
Well, scab rager is
Scab ragers is irrelevant because of their breastplate
You only get one of them
And probably not even
austere mica
I though Manstopper still hardstopped on Cara
tall torrent
Would not be able to hit many of them in the first place
tall torrent
I though Manstopper still hardstopped on Cara
Yes
Shoot their head
Or u can do the much simpler test
Mauler
Also 10 mass
Flak body
austere mica
I’ll do this tomorrow
Is there anything else that has infinite cleave slapped on it
austere mica
That wouldn’t be unreasonable
austere mica
I wonder if the 128 is something to do with limitations on an amount an attack can hit then
tall torrent
I wonder if the 128 is something to do with limitations on an amount an attack c...
more likely that
could be int64 based system
austere mica
Fun
tall torrent
Fun
24 maulers in front of one (who would show dmg number)
that would be >240 cleave
austere mica
I wonder if it’s just an actual cap in all cleave of 128 targets or something
And Manstopper is the only thing capable of pushing it that far
tall torrent
I wonder if it’s just an actual cap in all cleave of 128 targets or something
Prob
Plasma hipfire gets stopped after 5 maulers
austere mica
Plasma has an actual number instead of just “big”
We’d either need to dig around in code or mod a weapons cleave to insanity to confirm if this cap is actually universal or exists at all
steep prairie
what perk are we running for plasma in havoc?
tall torrent
what perk are we running for plasma in havoc?
Unarmored + flak
steep prairie
assuming i have all the usual superior complex + precision strike node
can i use this build for DS + plasma?
tall torrent
Wouldn’t run this for duelling sword
steep prairie
what would you change?
also for plasma it is blaze away + optimised cooling, correct?
tall torrent
Duelling sword is a lower investment melee
rigid pilot
Is agile usable with the ammo scarcity
steep prairie
i am brand new to this weapon setup
tall torrent
also for plasma it is blaze away + optimised cooling, correct?
That’s one way to build it
tall torrent
Is agile usable with the ammo scarcity
Agile engagement?
rigid pilot
Wrong talent, I meant weapon specialist
austere mica
Path you are a terrible person you made me legitimately consider doing grevious wounds tables for at least 1 weapon
tall torrent
Path you are a terrible person you made me legitimately consider doing grevious ...
Consider like 10
tall torrent
can i use this build for DS + plasma?
This build is for axe
austere mica
But it would be really funny to just drop it somewhere
tall torrent
But it would be really funny to just drop it somewhere
It’s a 1 point grab for builds that already take TWBS and it can potentially be a lot of value
austere mica
My eternal service to the Darktide community, the stagger tables for a talent nobody in their right mind takes voluntarily
austere mica
I am actually considering and it bothers me
tall torrent
My eternal service to the Darktide community, the stagger tables for a talent no...
Well, nobody knowledgeable enough takes voluntarily
I know it changes a couple weapon’s stagger breakpoints
Gives Rashad the ability to open bulwark with heavy atk on weakspot
Which is actually really nice to have ngl
rigid pilot
Do enemies have higher stagger BPs in havoc?
tall torrent
Do enemies have higher stagger BPs in havoc?
Higher stagger reduction, supposedly
I’m not gonna bother testing that until psykhanium can spawn h40 enemies
And I’m 99% sure Rashad’s stagger breakpoints don’t change at all for havoc
Only one I’m not certain is if Rashad heavy can stagger crusher overhead, because realistically veterans will VoC first then melee crushers
So it could just be crushers’ stagger immune window
rigid pilot
I’m not gonna bother testing that until psykhanium can spawn h40 enemies
That's how I feel about havoc right now
peak pond
I’m not gonna bother testing that until psykhanium can spawn h40 enemies
isn't there a mod for that alrdy?
rigid pilot
Is there?
I don't see anything new in the modding discord other than the new soloplay mod that supports H40
peak pond
Is there?
that spawn mod that gets u mob spawn in psykanium
wasn't it updated for havoc?
rigid pilot
Last update was in sep lol
peak pond
Last update was in sep lol
oh
tall torrent
isn't there a mod for that alrdy?
Nah it doesn’t include havoc stuff yet
Smth cool they could have done for havoc’s stagger is to increase enemies’ stagger immune window but keep stagger values the same
So u can’t CC spam stuff like what we have currently
But u would still be able to break enemies’ guard the exact same without adding extra complexities in figuring things out
wanton dawn
Manstopper limits seems to be based of an impact modifier which is not set to infinite
pale pecan
Manstopper limits seems to be based of an impact modifier which is not set to in...
AKA stops on carapace?
wanton dawn
Not really. Carapace is an override
pale pecan
The only weapon that I know that can Cleave Carapace rn seems is Powersword
but it can get a little dumb
Granted a good Psword Vet can really lock stuff down
wanton dawn
The only weapon that I know that can Cleave Carapace rn seems is Powersword
That's cuz sunder also override the override
pale pecan
That's cuz sunder also override the override <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Oh it can get a lot more silly than that lol
Granted this is kinda useless dmg but still
Some interesting interactions with other characters
wanton dawn
It is more useful against bulwark
pale pecan
Definitely, being able to attack stuff right next to their shield is handy
wanton dawn
You can hit through 2 bulwark shield
wanton dawn
unrelated to mass
No but actually yes. Its an impact component
There is hitmass_attack and hitmass_impact
pale pecan
Interesting
wanton dawn
Imo not really that kind of stuff is how you get weird interaction
tall torrent
The only weapon that I know that can Cleave Carapace rn seems is Powersword
Sunder
Perfect strike
You need specific things to override the carapace block cleave mechanic
pale pecan
Sunder
Perfect strike
You need specific things to override the carapace block c...
Right I forgot about Perfect Strike
Only Heavy Swords and Evis right?
tall torrent
Ogryn cleaver has a blessing that can also cleave carapace but nobody uses it
I just watched Nvidia’s new presentation
DLSS4 Upscaling and Reflex 2 coming to all RTX GPUs is nice
wanton dawn
The easy part
Am not decoding more its annoying. Uncommented code is a pita
There are impact tables value somewhere as either code or data. Cant be bothered checking further. Plus reading code on mobile 
Could also be bullet destruction over target treshold somewhere. Too much stuff to check i bail
vapid nacelle
its always such a disappointing feeling managing to solo clutch for like 6 minutes just for everything to be thrown at once and it's just too much to handle 😭
grand perch
A few days ago I clutched the stim lab finale on havoc 32 or so only to get gunned down by a lone scab shooter before I could react while picking teammates up from respawn
The humiliation
vapid nacelle
the worst part of amazing clutches is all the failed attempts before it 😔
but then again it's from the failed attempts we learn what we need to pull off the successful ones
viral nacelle
its always such a disappointing feeling managing to solo clutch for like 6 minut...
It happens, everyone flubs those moments
vapid nacelle
I did my damn best and my team appreciated it and that's what counts
unfortunately like 11 gunners appeared out of nowhere and that was that
viral nacelle
Yesterday I flubbed a solo clutch in an h40 because after killing a ton of stuff I decided to try to go rez everyone and triggered a horde before I killed the pogryn
Like, derp
grand perch
but then again it's from the failed attempts we learn what we need to pull off t...
Idd
dry cloak
Jctlive dropped nice guide to devil claw swor... knife
frank ledge
brittle turret
Yesterday I flubbed a solo clutch in an h40 because after killing a ton of stuff...
The desire to finally not be alone killed you
Be lonely
Be better
tame lodge
Ogryn cleaver has a blessing that can also cleave carapace but nobody uses it
I do
Unstoppable Force
Extra damage
Normal heavies ignore abort_cleave
Fully charged heavies ignore mass
Pair with Thrust and Crunch for maximum heavy
If you don't fully charge you still have 28.1 cleave on the heavy sweeps
So you can still tickle 3 crushers
viral nacelle
The desire to finally not be alone killed you
😭 gotta run run run from that!
tame lodge
dire olive
balmy flume
Boss buff?
warm bolt
placid portal
dire olive
grand perch
New boss introduced: CSM
(you spawn dead, he's killed you before the Valkyrie even lands)
marsh shard
Bolt pistol is p damn efficient and has great breakpoints
I like it over the revolver due to a lot more ammo
haughty hull
Hello chat
haughty hull
Bolt pistol is p damn efficient and has great breakpoints
Isn’t the bolt pistol just a deagle btw?
marsh shard
Gtfo
balmy flume
Isn’t the bolt pistol just a deagle btw?
Wrong bullet calibre, and DEagle bullets don't explode on impact XD
haughty hull
Wrong bullet calibre, and DEagle bullets don't explode on impact XD
No im saying as In like it’s a huge pistol
haughty hull
A deagle packs a huge punch for its size just like the bolt pistol
I mean hell my bf got me into warhammer, I don’t know anything
haughty hull
Nice, welcome to the madness
Daemonic hosts cause me madness
balmy flume
Daemonic hosts cause me madness
Lol
balmy flume
Vet nades?
The Frag/Krak/Smoke grenades
balmy flume
Frag for mob killing.
Krak for big single target DPS
Smoke for cover
balmy flume
Yea we came across one and he said poke it! And I’ll live to regret that…….
I mean, unless you have a shield Ogryn doing the aggro, you always avoid DH if it can be helped XD
And always make sure the team is comfy enough to engage one (since you don't want to aggro a DH when a mob is bearing down on you)
haughty hull
I mean, unless you have a shield Ogryn doing the aggro, you always avoid DH if i...
Oh yea my ogryn has a shield
haughty hull
And always make sure the team is comfy enough to engage one (since you don't wan...
Yk the gone bowling penance?
Sit a corner with your shield secured and then let poxwalkers build up and use bull rush
balmy flume
Nice
haughty hull
@balmy flume idk if your DMs are open or closed but I sent you a dm
balmy flume
<@471321417238052867> idk if your DMs are open or closed but I sent you a dm
Odd I should be open but it isn't showing up yet. I will try to DM you
calm shard
Frag for mob killing.
Krak for big single target DPS
Smoke for cover
smokes are so fun, but man it is difficult to willingly choose them knowing how bullshit shredders are
unreal nova
I just can't understand why smokes are on the right side when you need exe stance to really use it or be blind as well.
calm shard
smokes don't blind you if you're inside of them
unreal nova
Dunno, but it ends up being like a white ver of the fartbombs for me when someone tosses one.
calm shard
I use them like a more disposable psyker dome to make the team safer from specials and shooters
marsh shard
Smokes are designed to be an obvious downgrade from Frags, it's easier for them to balance the op bottom nodes with everyone is pideonholed into taking the same nodes in the top half
calm shard
are kraks an obvious downgrade from frags too
because you can just use uncanny strike to make their bleed ignore armor and kill armored enemies too
anyways smokes
tame lodge
Bro's just on honeymoon phase with frags don't rain on his parade
calm shard
can't see shit while outside them, can see right through it while inside
marsh shard
Shredders are the butthole and krak and smokes are the cheeks.
Cheeks are nice, but they don't make shit happen
tame lodge
My problem with smokes is that FS hasn't added a UI overlay to tell you you're inside of them
Like on the gas
🗣️
calm shard
yeah that would be nice because smoke grenades visual effect is way fucking larger than their actual radius of 5.5 meters
unreal nova
can't see shit while outside them, can see right through it while inside
Guess is just weird positioning that blinds.
marsh shard
The problem with kraks is I can do what they do in 1-2 heavies
unreal nova
yeah that would be nice because smoke grenades visual effect is **way** fucking ...
Or that.
marsh shard
Krak in havoc is like... cool you killed one of the 10 crushers bro
dry cloak
I mean onr ahotting 4 cruahers is fun
calm shard
actually hang on
lemme go grab that mod that outlines the actual radius of effects in game with a lil' circle on the ground
marsh shard
Bruh, what is more dangerous.
10 crushers by themselves or a mixed horde with specialists?
Shredders dunk on the mixed horde and specialists
calm shard
shredders do also damage the crushers quite a bit, especially if you get lucky with the double throw talent
if you're using like knife or dueling sword
unreal nova
lemme go grab that mod that outlines the *actual* radius of effects in game with...
Still having to mod which can break to fix a visual/UI thing. Also won't work for consoles.
dry cloak
Double kraks is fun on bosses
calm shard
Still having to mod which can break to fix a visual/UI thing. Also won't work fo...
for display purposes
unreal nova
shredders do also damage the crushers quite a bit, especially if you get lucky w...
Or just throw 3. You'll get them back on the 5%, RIGHT?
dry cloak
Buff combat shotties
calm shard
Or just throw 3. You'll get them back on the 5%, RIGHT?
I have in fact had that happen before yes
unreal nova
Buff combat shotties
Old news, where toggle special ammo?
calm shard
see any vaguely large group of elites just throw all your shredders at them
dry cloak
Old news, where toggle special ammo?
Yes
unreal nova
see any vaguely large group of elites just throw all your shredders at them
Mini nuke situations.
calm shard
it'd be cool if the shotguns toggled special ammo and it made them pump action with a slower fire rate
like how the Spas 12 operates
dry cloak
it'd be cool if the shotguns toggled special ammo and it made them pump action w...
Slugs have enoigh power to cycle the gun
calm shard
slugs do, but what about the other special shells
dry cloak
Flechette and dragons breath yeah pumping it is
calm shard
and also semi auto firing those slugs would not be balanced
unreal nova
it'd be cool if the shotguns toggled special ammo and it made them pump action w...
They don't need to be slower though, they kinda already need a slight buff.
dry cloak
and also semi auto firing those slugs would *not* be balanced
Slugs would have the lowest ammo count of the apecial shells
Like dragons breath would have lets say 20 sluga would have 10
unreal nova
Slugs would have the lowest ammo count of the apecial shells
A toggle clip pool, but IDK if it's feasible without big changes.
dry cloak
Do i undestand you right. You mean separate ammo pools yes? Because thats what i have on mind
unreal nova
Unless it's just a hidden weapon swap.
calm shard
oh the fuckin' mod doesn't even show friendly AoE radius oh well
dry cloak
I have it on sone trash builds that i play dor fun on malice
unreal nova
More. 13 clip normal, toggled changes it to special amount. Any changes is refunded to max pool.
unreal nova
oh the fuckin' mod doesn't even show friendly AoE radius oh well
Oh.
marsh shard
Kraks already do a good job of killing their target.
Shredders leave a bunch of stuff half dead.
20% chance of 2 shredders = everything full dead
Vs 20% chance of 2 kraks = the dead thing is more dead
And you only get 2 kraks
unreal nova
Kraks already do a good job of killing their target.
Shredders leave a bunch of...
They can fly to two diff targets though.
marsh shard
can
dry cloak
More. 13 clip normal, toggled changes it to special amount. Any changes is refun...
I was thinking more that special ammo is like 30% of max and you can either load like we have now or you long press it and load till mag cap. As you see it depends how empty your mag is
calm shard
it's honestly not that hard to get them to do it consistently if you throw them always expecting the spread of them
they magnetize so it's not like you're at risk of missing if you throw them weird
marsh shard
2 shredders is always great, 2 kraks is not
unreal nova
I was thinking more that special ammo is like 30% of max and you can either load...
I was thinking to just keep same max to feel like current, but balacing the reload to full based on how good semi auto special is.
dry cloak
I was thinking to just keep same max to feel like current, but balacing the relo...
Those are just ideas.
unreal nova
So you still get to use your 100 something slugs with a better feel, but not with full 13 shots since might be too good?
marsh shard
Kraks also lose value if damage is put into their target.
Like, there times when the time it takes you to draw and throw a krak then have it explode the target is already dead (or half dead) by the time the explosion goes off
Shredders? Value city
dry cloak
So you still get to use your 100 something slugs with a better feel, but not wit...
I mean we still have the the buckshot we have now, then special ammo is its separate pool
marsh shard
There is only 1 reason why I would take kraks, and thats if you have a burning hatred for bulwarks and really want to kill the hell out of 1 per minute
dry cloak
And if we are not undestanding each other then sorry
calm shard
Shredders? Value city
I throw my shredder just in time for the psyker with the force greatsword to erase every enemy
I cry
unreal nova
I mean we still have the the buckshot we have now, then special ammo is its sepa...
But currently it's a shared pool?
marsh shard
I throw my shredder just in time for the psyker with the force greatsword to era...
Atleast everything is dead 🤷♂️
unreal nova
Yes, but some ppl basically only special shell fire so losing 66% of slugs kinda suck.
marsh shard
Other result is you throw your shredders in time for the noob psyker to spam smite for the next 20 minutes
dry cloak
Yes, but some ppl basically only special shell fire so losing 66% of slugs kinda...
I mean thats the problem. Normal shots suck
marsh shard
Smite can kill stuff that is already half dead
dry cloak
And shotguns primary fire should not suck
unreal nova
And the fact it's subpar even with special shots at times. I honestly think it needs more of a buff than anything.
dry cloak
And the fact it's subpar even with special shots at times. I honestly think it n...
Rework and a buff
marsh shard
I wish Zealot had a way to recharge grenades
unreal nova
Rework and a buff
The joke is even if the combat shotgun only fired their special rounds, still need a buff.
marsh shard
Even if just 1 per minute
dry cloak
The joke is even if the combat shotgun only fired their special rounds, still ne...
Yeah
dry cloak
Even if just 1 per minute
1 per minute is ehat vet has
unreal nova
Faith grenades.
wanton dawn
Faith grenades.
crisp oak
The joke is even if the combat shotgun only fired their special rounds, still ne...
True
unreal nova
Restores grenades/knives. Knives probs in bulk.
crisp oak
I think the fire shotties special shot does less damage even with the dot than the normal shots
wanton dawn
Fire shotties does not kill trash in one cycle
unreal nova
So need buffs even then.
dry cloak
Fire shotty my beloves
unreal nova
I mean, I heard only the slug is viable. And is like a poor man revolver/BPistol.
dry cloak
I mean, I heard only the slug is viable. And is like a poor man revolver/BPistol...
Yeah
Shotties should a bit more conplex in usage than a lasgun imo
crisp oak
Fire shotties does not kill trash in one cycle
Yup
crisp oak
I mean, I heard only the slug is viable. And is like a poor man revolver/BPistol...
Pretty much yeaj
unreal nova
Less kill power compared to revolver, less utility to BPistol, only has the most hilarious stagger in the game on a gun. IDK oggy guns btw.
tame lodge
Other result is you throw your shredders in time for the noob psyker to spam smi...
The good Smite psyker killing everything before you even think about throwing grenades
marsh shard
The good Smite psyker killing everything before you even think about throwing gr...
Scriers op
sleek garden
Been trying to just hipfire stuff with the helbore recently
It gets tight in exy stance
It's the only time where the increased zoom feels detrimental
odd summit
Foldable shovel + thrust + limbsplitter + carapace damage = total crusher death (once every 3 seconds)
Not very good overall but pretty fun to just annihilate a crusher
pastel pumice
torn comet
opinions on best drop stat for vert boltgun? assuming mobility or stability but dont know which out of those 2 is generally preferred?
wanton dawn
opinions on best drop stat for vert boltgun? assuming mobility or stability but...
You're safe with dumping mobility. Collateral is also meh but there are some bp I don't care enough to calculate so better keep it a 80 and not think about it
Also check the pinned guide
torn comet
oh i completely missed that, thanks!
pallid jetty
why the hell do you want mobility for a bolter
wanton dawn
why the hell do you want mobility for a bolter
Elaborate 
pallid jetty
Elaborate <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
not nessecary, cause it doesnt make sence
pallid jetty
elaborating is not necessary
wanton dawn
Oh well
crisp oak
You don't know what dumping means?
Thats when you take a shit
empty root
Pump mobility
wanton dawn
Is it an ogryn writing or eating crayon from a bento box ?
formal ice
He is destroying a book with a giant pencil
empty root
Writing notes in the codex astartes with a crayon
tawny badger
surprised he didn't eat the crayon
balmy flume
boneheads know not to eat crayon
not rank and file Ogryns without the augment though
unreal nova
Writing notes in the codex astartes with a crayon
That looks like one of those jumbo pencils though.
unreal nova
So I guess they might nibble the rubber end.
tawny badger
boneheads know not to eat crayon
in public, anyway
queen gazelle
is this perk bugged or does it not work with recon lasgun
heavy rover
In what way? It's been working as expected for me
queen gazelle
In what way? It's been working as expected for me
read it again i fixed my mistake
heavy rover
Ah
queen gazelle
atleast with the recon lasgun it does not work with the flashlight
maybe thats intended
heavy rover
I use the mk xiv recon lasgun and it's been working for me
queen gazelle
just by turning on the flashlight?
heavy rover
Aiming down sights
queen gazelle
ads is alternate fire?
heavy rover
Yeah
heavy rover
No worries lol
radiant chasm
Recon will eat up your stam quick
bitter vessel
What is alternate fire? Sorry I only use the revolver
inland orchid
Aim down sights
bitter vessel
so whats the alternate fire?
Dude I am so dumb I could’ve just scrolled up lmao
remote sonnet
One revolver is ADS, the other is fan shoot.
terse idol
i feel stupid
Recon is not very good with deadshot imo
remote sonnet
It is not even an opinion, it is a fact.
empty root
There are top rated recon lasgun builds on gameslatern with deadshit
unreal nova
Cos they expect you to dodge like mad to refill stam and brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr things down.
It doesn't work as well unless you play on malice though.
crimson wyvern
Delicious triple rez on my shout that last auric. Im winning far more with randos now
light ridge
Is 400% cleave on chainsword actually good for anything?
odd sparrow
There are top rated recon lasgun builds on gameslatern with deadshit
games lantern is not a good place to get builds imo
empty root
Sorry the highest recon build had deadshot but mister Es recon build overtook it and it doesn't have deadshot
calm shard
Cos they expect you to dodge like mad to refill stam and brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr thin...
but that got nerfed because fucking duck and dive doesn't work if you have 0 stamina lmaoooo
empty root
So saved by mister E I guess
empty root
games lantern is not a good place to get builds imo
Gameslatern in a fine place to get builds if you can read between the lines
And realize top rated builds are not the best but sit at the center of the bell curve
tall torrent
but that got nerfed because fucking duck and dive doesn't work if you have 0 sta...
Nah, it does work
unreal nova
but that got nerfed because fucking duck and dive doesn't work if you have 0 sta...
That, IDK. I run Onslaught memes without deadshot.
All rending, go brrrrrrrrrrrr into faces.
remote sonnet
WS is good enough with revolver.
faint beacon
Recip is also good enough 90% of the time there’s going to be a groaner near you attempting to land hits
remote sonnet
I run Hit n Run on my revolver, all I do is move forward.
unreal nova
Is also laziness.
wanton dawn
And realize top rated builds are not the best but sit at the center of the bell ...
I am stealing that one
tame lodge
Is 400% cleave on chainsword actually good for anything?
400 is too much
200 is enough
The Xiiig likes Wrath more than Savage Sweep though
But like
If you crit you deal full damage to all targets because Chsword is quirky like that
So 400% would be good if you could crit consistently
tall torrent
But like
If you crit you deal full damage to all targets because Chsword is qui...
Not quite
tame lodge
Yeah yeah
Technicalities and all of that
tall torrent
Chainsword’s quirk is carrying forward finesse-related bonus damage without reduction
Instead of having finesse be a stable % scale for every target in cleave
tame lodge
Finesse related
So if I hit two weakspots in a single attack without crit , will they receive the same damage or nah?
Hmmm I guess I'll keep the crit requirement
Otherwise Chainsword would have like Deathblow built in or something
light ridge
I like Bloodletter though because it helps with the tougher stuff
tall torrent
Finesse related
So if I hit two weakspots in a single attack without crit , wil...
Ofc not
light ridge
I use Chainsword mostly on my recon builds
Savage Sweep+Bloodletter
But I'll give Shred another shot
tall torrent
<:bigbrain:808615471809036329>
In a hypothetical example
Chainsword’s first target does 200 base damage, and 300 on crit (1.5 crit finesse)
If second target is 100 base damage, it would deal 200 on crit (the 100 bonus damage from crit stays same instead of using 1.5 finesse modifier across all cleave target profiles)
opaque crane
Havoc pubs are at the threshold of hell
wanton dawn
Which lvl though
opaque crane
How the hell you can have true survivor + 40 clearance and instantly down 3 times in a row. Then leave like a clown
I keep getting to 32 and then I get these idiots and get demoted to 30. Lose 9 times in a row
light ridge
The leave like a clown is how they got True Survivor
wanton dawn
Ppl won't hardtry as much in lower lvl
opaque crane
It's so frustrating
serene bough
I see lots of people w/ true survivor making clown moves
Its honestly more common of a title than I figured
light ridge
I suppose most of them cheesed it
opaque crane
Yeah having true survivor and 40 means nothing usually to me. Because the people that queue are garbage
remote sonnet
I got mine in pub no mic no mod.
It is really down to luck with the players. Some are honest, other are not.
light ridge
H40 is one lucky run
True Survivor mostly meant dropping the moment you went down
serene bough
Still don't have it yet, but tbh i don't really feel the urge to get it yet
remote sonnet
Mine was no death run.
serene bough
Seeing how it's a pretty common title to witness
remote sonnet
I did that a few times with different classes.
light ridge
I might never get True Survivor because I only play randoms
crisp oak
Yeah true survivor means everyone who went down got onetappes
formal ice
Would yall believe that I almost died because I was clutching?
Well I mean, not died but made my heart beat fast
light ridge
I'm not good enough to reliably clutch but I seem to be getting better at keeping my team from needing a clutch
Even if that just means I'm running the objectives while the idiots keep trying to stop the endless spawn
light ridge
How I wish shovel didn't need 4 hits to kill a poxwalker...
unreal nova
How I wish shovel didn't need 4 hits to kill a poxwalker...
Play with lag, 20 hits and somehow poxwalker is still alive and smacks me.
odd sparrow
depends onn the shovel i assum
light ridge
depends onn the shovel i assum
Mk3, folded great, unfolded ... not so much
Mk1, crowd control for days, just don't expect to kill anything with it
empty root
Mk1 does damage
Skullcrusher/decimator flak/unarmored I have gotten surprisingly high damage numbers with it
crisp oak
How I wish shovel didn't need 4 hits to kill a poxwalker...
Shouldnt happen with a mk1 with uncanny decimator
crisp oak
Skullcrusher/decimator flak/unarmored I have gotten surprisingly high damage num...
Yeah only issue is cara
hollow ibex
Big melee mixed hordes in general get sketchy with mk1
The horde clear is just innately mid
empty root
Yeah only issue is cara
I don't think you should be taking shovel to kill cara
crisp oak
You shouldnt
empty root
I take shovel on a primarly range build to easily clear pox hordes off you
empty root
If you need more from your melee you need a different weapon
Mk1 is the best in that role imo
crisp oak
Takes ~3 lights for a poxwalker with the crusher onetap build
hollow ibex
You shouldnt
Tbf you can in a pinch
Honestly I think ragers are the biggest threat
Multiple of them
crisp oak
Tbf you can in a pinch
You dont bring it for fighting cara, you just are forced to fight them
tough crest
My primary horde clear is Recon and Shredders
crisp oak
The mk1 also has the most satisfying sound
empty root
You dont bring it for fighting cara, you just are forced to fight them
Drop nades at feet and peace out
Not my problem
hollow ibex
You can still clear out one or two carapace targets without too much of an issue fwiw
tough crest
Reocn with Infernus trivializes Aurics you can do whole missions without ever using your melee unless your teammates aren't kill the crushers or something
hollow ibex
Mk1 isn’t as bad against carapace as people think
It’s just that stamina becomes the issue
empty root
Mk1 does great anti horde. When I was leveling it to mastery 20 I had some 500 and 600k damage games with the rest of the team doing 350k
crisp oak
Honestly though the mk7 is slept on
empty root
Mk1 not killing pox is probably some low level shit
light ridge
It takes two folded heavies to kill a crusher
I'll give the mk3 another shot
crisp oak
It takes two folded heavies to kill a crusher
I'll give the mk3 another shot
Mk1 doesnt have folded heavies....
hollow ibex
It takes like 7-8 push attacks....
With uncanny? I don’t recall it taking that much
crisp oak
With uncanny? I don’t recall it taking that much
Last time I checked
But could be off
Was also running uncanny decimator (where I think skullcrusher is the cara option)
empty root
I don't go near crushers with mk1
crisp oak
It takes two folded heavies to kill a crusher
I'll give the mk3 another shot
The if you want to kill crushers with a folding shovel you need thrust+crapace
hollow ibex
I’d need to look again but I remember it being aight
crisp oak
And either stacks of uncanny
terse idol
Mk1 not killing pox is probably some low level shit
It uhhh it staggers them well
empty root
Just clear hordes and 3 light attacks to kill mutant
crisp oak
Or tag
empty root
It'd not the fastest time to kill in the game sure
crisp oak
Mk1 ahould oneshot pox woth lights
empty root
But it's better than some weapons and it's piss easy to use
crisp oak
If uncanny decimator
crisp oak
Thrust mk7 is my non meme shovel
empty root
Easiest melee weapon to defend against pox hordes in the vet arsenal
midnight totem
I like the MK3
light ridge
Thrust mk7 is my non meme shovel
That folded heavy is awkward
crisp oak
That folded heavy is awkward
Yeah but its a 1tap
And I like its unfolded moveset more
Horizontal heavies like the mk1
With a similar enough light spam
But yeah if only fighting flakamaniac hordes, mk1 is the goat
orchid hemlock
frank ether
fsr4 looks caked
hollow ibex
Report to Dukane for summary execution
hollow ibex
That looks pretty good
pallid jetty
Zonkla numba 2
tawny badger
identity theft
light ridge
I like the MK3
Mk3 definitely had merit, had 2 good runs with it today
Once with Skullcrusher+Uncanny Strike and once with Skullcrusher+Decimator
orchid hemlock
@tall torrent does ILG still need determined?
I noticed that even while supressed my accuracy is still razer sharp
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> does ILG still need determined?
ya
orchid hemlock
is my mod telling me the wrong info then?
tall torrent
is my mod telling me the wrong info then?
what
orchid hemlock
when im being shot at by gunners in the psykanium and I am aiming my lasgun the crosshairs dont change
its still normal
tall torrent
when im being shot at by gunners in the psykanium and I am aiming my lasgun the ...
do u have determined equipped
calm shard
try it yourself if u don't believe me
I don't believe you
actually wait weapon customization mod does fix the bolter ads bug
it might also affect this
sec
orchid hemlock
I don't believe you
u arnt using the crosshair mod, this tells me nothing
calm shard
well the shots go where the scope goes
orchid hemlock
the movement of the weapon has nothing to do with the actual aim
see how even when the weapon is shaking, the crosshairs stay sharp
when u are being suppressed it looks like this:
calm shard
yeah suppression still seems to work
empty root
how good is close order drill
austere mica
Its also above confirmed kill so like
empty root
i see a lot of builds going right for weapon swap speed
austere mica
I go there for swap speed on one build
calm shard
swap speed is literally only useful on the helbore
empty root
is 5% toughness on kill better than close order?
calm shard
not really because confirmed kill is also right under it
so for 2 skill points I'd get close order+confirmed kill
not swap speed and toughness on kill
bitter vessel
okay fr, how do i use this plasma gun it is so jarring when coming from only ever using the zarona lmao
bitter vessel
the timing is weird but it does hit hard
bitter vessel
you seriously never ads?
latent parcel
nah
latent parcel
ya
bitter vessel
holy moly this gun is cooler than i thought
calm shard
charge shot overpens damn near everything yes
calm shard
before class rework on vet and scavenger aura not being ass
I would just use exe stance and kill every elite/specialist through the walls
austere mica
TF you mean scavenger is still amazing
Just not print a magazine in one second amazing
bitter vessel
im used to being psyker, is there a way to get rid of heat quicker than it disspates naturally>?
calm shard
press the reload button with your blitz or any force weapon out
vapid nacelle
before class rework on vet and scavenger aura not being ass
people think scavenger is bad..?
since when
latent parcel
some people i guess ya
calm shard
It does not feel like enough ammo to justify the tax nodes to path to good skills from it
bitter vessel
i am so confused, are yall trolling me for being a psyker
latent parcel
no
calm shard
unless I'm in havoc and deliberately trying to have as much ammo efficiency as possible
latent parcel
whose trolling who
bitter vessel
about venting lmao
latent parcel
true you dont need it for maelstrom
bitter vessel
is it a specfic one
vapid nacelle
It does *not* feel like enough ammo to justify the tax nodes to path to good ski...
what are the tax nodes
I'm a little confused mb
vapid nacelle
oh
latent parcel
in havocs atleast from my experience
calm shard
I take shredders most of the time actually
bitter vessel
its not doing anything whats the dummyproof instructions
latent parcel
do you have heat built up?
bitter vessel
does it need to be in the red?
latent parcel
no
bitter vessel
i get it half way and nothing
latent parcel
are u holding your weapon special action key?
bitter vessel
OH
bitter vessel
i was like 95% sure i was being messed with man ive never used that button for anything other than pressing , thats awesome
this hits SO hard wow i love it thank you
latent parcel
ya it slaps
calm shard
cause like building a somewhat normal vet build for scavengers aura means losing 3 skill points on 1 shit skill, and 2 minor nodes
bitter vessel
my keybinds must be weird it only lets me do it when im reloading , weird lmao
latent parcel
reloading wil vent it
vapid nacelle
cause like building a *somewhat normal* vet build for scavengers aura means losi...
this makes me uncomfortable
calm shard
in havoc it's good obviously because ammo drops don't exist
latent parcel
what other aura do u normally use? fire team?
calm shard
yeah fire team is right on the way to good skills
movespeed aura also has fuckin' agile engagement right before it
both of the skills next to scavengers aura sucks
latent parcel
agile is ok i guess
im slowly becoming a fan of catch a breath
i just never bring fire team anymore since all i play is high havocs
but if you play anything else then any aura is fine
calm shard
oh my bad I actually miscalculated
you lose four skillpoints for scavenger
not 3
fire team is a mid aura, but it's in the middle tree of a talent tree where all the best stuff is in the middle
bitter vessel
im not done embarassing myself lul, apparently the ability bbutton never was venting it was just reloading that was doing it, so when i have all my ammo in my gun and none in reserve so i cant trigger the reload animation im not sure how to vent since the other button isnt working for me
(on controller)
latent parcel
oh ur on controller
bitter vessel
yeah im a phreak
latent parcel
whats this bound too?
bitter vessel
uhhh
calm shard
I think it's R3 by default
bitter vessel
oh
vapid nacelle
oh my bad I actually miscalculated
yeah idk i just run this on mine
bitter vessel
r3 it is tysm yall
austere mica
whats this bound too?
Why do you have special bound to equals
vapid nacelle
sometimes I drop iron will for the reload on weapon swap in weapon specialist
latent parcel
Why do you have special bound to equals
its my side mouse button
austere mica
Interesting
latent parcel
i have a razer naga with my blitz and special action on the side
tall torrent
im slowly becoming a fan of catch a breath
It’s better than people think
vapid nacelle
catch a breath is pretty nice
latent parcel
its alot better then i thought. thats for sure
tall torrent
It’s a lot better than GBITF
austere mica
I have concluded my testing and Manstopper has actually infinite cleave, but can only hit 128 targets at once
You can cleave 128 plague ogryns
latent parcel
i did finally make a moebian 21st caxe build with the bolt pistol. does really well i got it to cleave moebians like pox walkers in h40
heavy rover
only 128 plague ogryns? literally unplayable
latent parcel
i just grabbed the 10% melee damage and put unarmored on it lol
works fine
2 node tax to use it. good enough
calm shard
I have concluded my testing and Manstopper has actually infinite cleave, but can...
smh fatshark and their arbitrary cleave limits
austere mica
Its interesting though its the only blessing that says infinite cleave and then actual works as advertised
latent parcel
Merely cope with red nodes or other damage sources
you fix ur net yet so u can play h40's or what
tall torrent
you fix ur net yet so u can play h40's or what
I did h40 last week
I’m benchmarking my game tho
Game is just really horribly unstable in framerate now for some reason
heavy rover
i thought it was just me having performance issues with the game
latent parcel
I have heard that from some peeps but my PC is a literal toaster so im not sure why i dont have problems
tall torrent
I LOVE dropping frames randomly
latent parcel
i think my config has something to do with it
tall torrent
I have heard that from some peeps but my PC is a literal toaster so im not sure ...
I capped mine to 90, pretty normal
Game randomly drops to 64~69 usually in intense situations
However the frame time is so absurdly bad it’ll feel like 6fps for like a solid 3 seconds
I’m literally playing a PowerPoint slideshow
latent parcel
mine is capped at 60
latent parcel
wheres that option at
heavy rover
Same, I use AMD frame gen and let it run wild
tall torrent
It causes visual artifacts
latent parcel
have u customized ur config file? i had a guide ages ago but i lost it
heavy rover
if i paid for the VRAM I'm damn using all of it
crimson wyvern
Accatrans lasguns that isn't the one that vomits out bullets seem to have dogshit ammo economy worse than the vomit one and I dont know where Im going wrong
tall torrent
But now I’m running all low/off
Trying to see if it improves anything
tall torrent
have u customized ur config file? i had a guide ages ago but i lost it
I did
Rt stuff all off
latent parcel
im running a 1070 at 60 frames stable
tall torrent
RTXGI scale 0.5
latent parcel
but my graphics are low af
tall torrent
U on all low/off?
latent parcel
some are NA
tall torrent
Huh
tall torrent
That’s custom preset but not set
latent parcel
its off
tall torrent
Send me ur config file if u can
latent parcel
lookn
god damit my scoreboard history is in here
let me edit it a bit
the best thing on that config
is that it deletes dead corpses so u dont have to worry about a trama staff or shieldgryn knocking things and getting up behind you and poking you in the ass
latent parcel
i enjoy not having to look to make sure shits dead if its not there then its dead
latent parcel
lololol
orchid hemlock
This is a mod to help with FPS: https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/424
latent parcel
thats pretty good
nova heron
Wow killshot ready is a miserable penance
tame lodge
You can kill with whatever once you have 10 stacks
nova heron
Yeah Ive done it now but it was such a slog
nova heron
Yeah it was that plus devils claw parries when they got up close but my god
2500 kills while just standing there like a pillock
empty root
yea some games i get 500 some games i barely get 50
you need those giant hordes in the open with no specialist pressure
spicy games you never get to stand still
nova heron
I got the last 300 kills by having a friend of mine launch me into a private game and then he left so I could kill enemies in peace
austere mica
Yeah it was that plus devils claw parries when they got up close but my god
Lawbringer shotgun alt fire spam is best for it
marsh quiver
having a lot of difficulty not playing plasma shout vet in auric HISTG
feels like if I'm not the one shooting the majority of the specials the team gets overrun real quick
been trying to branch out to venting shriek purgatus psyker but I can't delete specials fast enough, still getting used to the playstyle
hollow ibex
shriek purg psyker is prob one of the most braindead OP playstyles in the game
nova heron
Kid named smite:
hollow ibex
once you get used to it, the most significant challenge is trying not to fall asleep
marsh quiver
shriek purg psyker is prob one of the most braindead OP playstyles in the game
I've seen it demonstrated, been having trouble juggling uncanny stacks with purg though
It feels like it's very easy to get overrun by crusher/armor packs if I don't have high peril ready to go with shriek
hollow ibex
honestly with carapace, i'd rather just stick them with a deimos, knife or DS
wouldn't bother with the uncanny proccing thing
austere mica
I've seen it demonstrated, been having trouble juggling uncanny stacks with purg...
I don't bother with uncanny schenanigans its only really relevant against cara anyway
FGS fucks up armor to an extreme
marsh quiver
I'll have to give that a try, haven't given the new wep a shot yet so I don't know how well it performs
tough tiger
I want uncanny on shreddet pistol
hollow ibex
honestly if you want to be a metaslave, just run DS with purg
purg kills literally everything except crushers
and then you just take DS against crushers
braindead ass weapon
well both of them are lol
pallid jetty
whats purg
remote sonnet
Most of the time, inferno can still kill crushers quite fast.
remote sonnet
Purgatus, the old name of inferno.
pallid jetty
flamy one?
remote sonnet
yes
pallid jetty
could have just use the word flamy 🙂
remote sonnet
Zealot has literal flamer...
pallid jetty
ill never understand why and how people memorize the names
remote sonnet
When you need to communicate with people, you have to come up with something.
You can't just give description forever.
vapid nacelle
You can't just give description forever.
Me when I tell my team I'm using a
I'm reminded of this
frail citrus
Any tips for completing Make every shot count penance?
vapid nacelle
Any tips for completing Make every shot count penance?
don't take scavenger and try to get into a match where there isn't another vet withi t
bring a low ammo single shot weapon like a stub revolver
vapid nacelle
basically you're playing melee vet
frail citrus
Duly noted. Thank you so much!
tawny badger
I'm reminded of this
aint no way bro is wearing the It Might Not Be As Functional As An Augmetic, But The Worn Leather That This Is Made Of Is Certainly Comfortable And Has A Rougeish Charm Of Its Own
-# Head
crude fiber
if hotshot is a global effect then does that mean the stagger increase from falter is as well?
austere mica
This is just an improperly altered description
Falter was only on guns before they added it to Smaul
mental smelt
Got the penance where you don't take damage from melee done on accident
austere mica
Nice
marsh quiver
I remember getting that back when vet had a passive aggro dump skill
dumb penance design by FS
remote sonnet
although it just didn’t seem to work for me
What do you mean by that?
empty root
I remember getting that back when vet had a passive aggro dump skill
You could cheese it back then
marsh quiver
plenty of people didn't and would just hold block in the middle of a horde
it was ass
💀
specials and poxwalkers waltz right on by to punch somebody else in the back
craggy relic
how do I build dueling sword for havoc on vet?
blessings and perks
oh, and mark
I hear its very op
empty root
mk4, uncanny + agile/riposte/precog
This but flaniac
hollow ibex
what do you need flak for 🤔
craggy relic
carapace / maniac
thank u :)
formal ice
Carapace if you want to just hit the head of the tanky guys
Flak if you want to hit everything
hollow ibex
and why wouldn't you be aiming at the head of crushers with a DS lol
you'd do the same with maulers even though they have flak bodies
because uncanny memes + insane finesse
craggy relic
._>
hollow ibex
._>
feel free to look at the guide in the pins
you don't need to take my word for it
formal ice
you'd do the same with maulers even though they have flak bodies
Because, theres more flak enemies than carapace enemies
hollow ibex
aight mate
formal ice
No seriously
You will find more flak enemies than carapace enemies
Still, you could build for carapace and just be effective to crushers and maulers
Its your choice
hollow ibex
You will find more flak enemies than carapace enemies
that is factually correct. but that isn't the criteria for blessing selection in this scenario. especially in havoc.
formal ice
that is factually correct. but that isn't the criteria for blessing selection in...
But flak thou
You have effectiveness against more enemies
remote sonnet
It is really depending on weapons. Some weapons are easier to hit the heads, which are not always armoured, some need flak instead because of breakpoint.
formal ice
You will still be effective against crushers and maulers if you hit the body
remote sonnet
Some weapons rely on chain hit combo and don't have uncanny.
formal ice
Just say if it needs flak or carapace already
Well he left
Looks like we are unanswered
wanton dawn
I don't think there is a single enemy type where flak would matter on ds if you are aiming at ws. Which you should do with a ds
More than for any melee that is
remote sonnet
It is pointless. Brother says attacking crusher in the body is effective.
bleak cradle
crude fiber
guess ill delete my paragraph then
tall torrent
You have effectiveness against more enemies
changes no breakpoints for duelling sword
formal ice
changes no breakpoints for duelling sword
Yeah it doesn't, thats why carapace is better
wanton dawn
Discussion seems kinda random. Oh well
formal ice
Surely is
Don't know why the guy was talking about flak being better than carapace on dueling sword
bleak cradle
Not really. Sirosky gives guy good afvice. Skaven gives meh advice
formal ice
Not really. Sirosky gives guy good afvice. Skaven gives meh advice
Yes
The skaven gave meh advice
remote sonnet
Shock maul mk3 is another one that shouldn't take flak because its attacks are mostly strike down, and doesn't change the number of hit to flak head enemies.
But no carapace = 1-3 extra hits to kill mauler/crusher.
narrow frost
Just take stamina and sprint efficiency
tawny badger
You will still be effective against crushers and maulers if you hit the body
crusher torso is flak?
lime marsh
Hey can some one help me get the on over watch penence
tawny badger
On Overwatch is easy just run VoC
formal ice
What attention?
hollow ibex
go bother someone else
formal ice
formal ice
go bother someone else
You
tawny badger
just get a room you two
narrow frost
crusher torso is flak?
Crusher is all carapace
formal ice
Hey Sirosky meet me at the Imperium Hotel
Sadly he didn't respond
Must be busy accusing people of wanting attention
tawny badger
Sadly he didn't respond
rocky jay
What are best melees for vet?
tawny badger
uh
crude fiber
tac axe
formal ice
Shovel maybe?
crude fiber
rashad combat ax is pretty bonkers if you build it right
tawny badger
dueling sword is honestly bullshit
crude fiber
shovels are fun but not as good as other options imo
tawny timber
tawny badger
"yeah let’s make a thammer that’s as fast as a combat knife" boy fuck you
crude fiber
i dont bother with them, their armor pen is so ass they dont feel good to use for me
honestly just against carapace but its still enough to keep me away from them
crude fiber
bro is unstoppable lmao
formal ice
bro is unstoppable lmao
Listen, if say that I am looking for attention then I'll start annoying you for attention
hollow ibex
"yeah let’s make a thammer that’s as fast as a combat knife" boy fuck you
peak fatshart balance
though i don't mind crutch weapons tbh
except for maybe DS
rashad actually requires some investment in the skill tree
grand perch
tac axe <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
I have been summoned
tall torrent
I love when my native 72fps is actually 47fps in 1% lows and actually a solid chunk (35%) of my frames are below my intended framerate
warm bolt
Knowing stuff like errors 2001, 2014 and 3001 this may be fixed in the actual 40th millenia
tall torrent
<:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107> Knowing stuff like errors 2001, 2014 and 3001 thi...
those are mostly due to network instability or server being wack
this actually makes game fundamentally unplayable
hollow ibex
I love when my native 72fps is actually 47fps in 1% lows and actually a solid ch...
sounds like UE5 levels of performance... except this game isn't on UE5
warm bolt
those are mostly due to network instability or server being wack
this actually ...
Oh, fair
Hope they're gonna fix it soon after their holiday ends
fallen badger
Does anyone want to party up and do the make every shot count penance?
light ridge
What's the effect of Uncanny Strike on the different armor types?
It's good for Carapace but I'm wondering if I wouldn't get more value out e.g. Decimator against the other (more common) armor types
grand perch
Iirc it gives rending against every armour type except unarmoured. Might also give bonus damage against those since excess rending is converted to a damage buff
frank ether
I love when my native 72fps is actually 47fps in 1% lows and actually a solid ch...
don't worry fatshark will fix the stutters by adding DLSS4 and FSR4 for the %0.01 of their playerbase
ocean idol
Time to continue killing my joy by doing the fuckn armorbane penance