Any teammate kill in coherency
#veteran-class
radiant chasm
radiant chasm
Rolls that chance for you
ocean idol
https://tenor.com/view/dead-space-kamikaze-explosion-gif-15875063139611313358
where is that from
pastel pumice
Dead Space 3
ocean idol
Also i only now noticed your nickname
radiant chasm
The game rigs it so it gets closer and closer to 1/20 elite kills
marsh shard
Bruh, I know 20% aint a lot but when youre throwing 30 nades a game youre bound to get procs
pastel pumice
Trying to convince others to go full gamble grenadier
marsh shard
30 is an understatement
radiant chasm
Bruh, I know 20% aint a lot but when youre throwing 30 nades a game youre bound ...
Yea
inland orchid
I also like explosions...
radiant chasm
It’s also 20% Prng
calm shard
Trying to convince others to go full gamble grenadier
I actually have 2 grenade spam builds
one for krak and the other for shredders
radiant chasm
You can “pre charge” twinned blast, by counting how many nades since your last proc
Since the game rigs the rng to favor towards a 1/5 chance
marsh shard
Its literally a node right next to VoC. Youre not going out of your way
pastel pumice
Show? @calm shard
marsh shard
Its not like "ahh man, I have to take these trash ass nodes in order to have a 20% chance to literally double my damage and blow up this room"
Its right next to voc and the node that gives you a free nade every 60s
calm shard
Show? <@199236663174627328>
sec
unreal nova
BPistol?
calm shard
Its right next to voc and the node that gives you a free nade every 60s
truly veterans are plagued by tax nodes
marsh shard
If you dont take 20% chance to double your nades you are high
inland orchid
If you dont take 20% chance to double your nades you are high
Shit I’ve been found out 
marsh shard
Play zealot if you dont want to use nades and want to just melee and gun down specials
Thats my hot take
calm shard
Show? <@199236663174627328>
pastel pumice
Interesting TedTalk
calm shard
I take precision strikes on shredder because I always use it with knife/dueling sword
uncanny strike bleeds lmao
marsh shard
Shredder is the leading damage for vets in auric/havoc, no?
calm shard
Will use your trees for inspiration
You shouldn't. I don't know what I'm doing
inland orchid
That’s the best part u both dont know 
marsh shard
1 node is 20% chance to double your biggest damage source.
And that source is a colossal aoe
marsh shard
Underrated ass node
calm shard
1 node is 20% chance to double your biggest damage source.
And that source is a...
it is a fucking 12 meter radius (14 with bolt pistol)
and it kills every trash mob
2 of them will kill most elites
marsh shard
It kills everything. And you throw like 80 a game
80 x .2 = 16 free nades
VALUE
If there was a node that said "you get another 10 nades" everyone would take it
Only thing it doesn't kill is crushers, but you can just poke them twice with a dueling stick after you blow up all their friends
calm shard
If there was a node that said "you get another 10 nades" everyone would take it
isn't that just what demolition team does
also shredders do in fact kill crushers with uncanny strike
marsh shard
isn't that just what demolition team does
Demo team is like "I heard you like free nades, so here are some free nades to go with your free nades. And theres a chance that free nade will get you another free nade"
inland orchid
Demo team is like "I heard you like free nades, so here are some free nades to g...
Vets with demo team when it’s hunting grounds:
marsh shard
Hidden Vet passive: You get all the grenade pickups because Ogryns are poop city and Zealots/Psykers literally dont use nades
So the 80 grenades you're throwing and the 16 youre getting due to the 20% chance to throw 2 just turned into like 100+ nades
Youre like the oprah winfrey of nades
unreal nova
Hidden Vet passive: You get all the grenade pickups because Ogryns are poop city...
Some Zealots do use them though and a nuke is always nice to have for the oggy. Plus, when oggy nukes next to you, you get more nades anyway.
light ridge
also shredders do in fact kill crushers with uncanny strike
Opportunist will buff the bleeds too as it procs on the stagger from the explosion
empty root
The talent that gives you a grenade every minute is such a poor design choice
light ridge
isn't that just what demolition team does
I've been wondering if Demolition Team doesn't give me more value than WM on one of my builds with how little I actually switch weapons in the middle of clearing a horde
unreal nova
The talent that gives you a grenade every minute is such a poor design choice
You get 17 to 27 free nades, how is it bad? Purely talking non-havoc runs.
empty root
It should be a core part of the class
Like who wouldn't take that talent
It has to be the most obvious talent in the game right now
empty root
The taxiest of points
terse idol
also shredders do in fact kill crushers with uncanny strike
Wait, uncanny doesn't affect shredders
I don't think so at least
sullen jackal
It has to be the most obvious talent in the game right now
uh, ranged Dodge psyker talent? Veteran precision talent on the left?
ocean idol
It has to be the most obvious talent in the game right now
well i sometimes don't take it with smokes
terse idol
Also to roll it back, if you're doing lp with bistol twinned is nice if you can afford it
ocean idol
uh, ranged Dodge psyker talent? Veteran precision talent on the left?
You mean deadshot?
sullen jackal
maybe whatever the weak spot one is
empty root
Shredders do great damage, but their disruption is the critical role they play, hence why taking talents that give you more uses are popular but talents that boost damage are not
ocean idol
116 more REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ocean idol
maybe whatever the weak spot one is
I have no idea whast you talking abo ut
keystone?
sullen jackal
+40% weak spot damage
ocean idol
Exe stance?
sullen jackal
it's below exe stance yes
ocean idol
there is no such talent
terse idol
Shredders do great damage, but their disruption is the critical role they play, ...
Imo if you're doing LP anyways it's like you take similar nodes to if you weren't taking lp I think?
ocean idol
you mena Precision Strikes, +30% weak spot damage?
terse idol
Demo team, the grenade regen
sullen jackal
ya
empty root
116 more REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The +1 grenade capacity talent helped me a lot with this
ocean idol
The +1 grenade capacity talent helped me a lot with this
of course i am using it
problem is people often killing targets before grenades goes off
it should have shorter fuse
empty root
Yep
sullen jackal
honestly I feel like the toughness Regen share talent is a must take too but
empty root
When there is a single armored target that the team is on I generally don't throw
It's good to lob into 10 packs of maulers or crushers that appear out of nowhere
ocean idol
this is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n7eNFj_9Vk
empty root
A krak grenade or brain burst seems to be a challenge to the team on being able to kill the target before it completes
terse idol
problem is people often killing targets before grenades goes off
I mean just throw it at scab stalkers
ocean idol
A krak grenade or brain burst seems to be a challenge to the team on being able ...
at least you can right click BB
terse idol
Or was it the scab regular gunners
ocean idol
Or was it the scab regular gunners
shooters or gunners?
calm shard
Wait, uncanny doesn't affect shredders
it affects the bleed damage
terse idol
hollow ibex
iirc if you start stacking uncanny after you drop shredders, two shredders will take out half of a crusher's health
which isn't half bad
terse idol
So in theory both the regular shooters and the elite gunners will count
hollow ibex
since you can do that to an entire wave of cruehers quite easily in an actual match
and in an actual match, you'll prob have uncanny up before hand
terse idol
Scab stalkers will count too
calm shard
throw 2 shredders in a panic at rager swarm
get all 4 back
okay demolition team
thanks I guess
remote sonnet
The ability of Vet finding grenades on the ground excel that of the the Ogryn finding boulder.
pseudo fiber
balmy flume
The ability of Vet finding grenades on the ground excel that of the the Ogryn fi...
If you run the bullet aura, bullets too
halcyon blaze
116 more REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I finally got that a couple of days ago, felt good.
grand perch
demo team just allows vet to store nades in slaanesh approved areas
halcyon blaze
Also got the "Make Every Shot Count" penance yesterday.
remote sonnet
The Army told me that infantry is resourceful, I didn't understand until now.
halcyon blaze
crisp oak
The Army told me that infantry is resourceful, I didn't understand until now.
I steal
Strategically Transfer Equipment to Alternate Location
remote sonnet
The never ending battle of infantry vs logistic.
calm shard
The ability of Vet finding grenades on the ground excel that of the the Ogryn fi...
they steal them from the heretics
remote sonnet
they steal them from the heretics
What by the throne do you suggest? You know that using heretic weapons can turn you heretic?
calm shard
well yeah that's why veteran throws so many grenades
so that the heretic grenades don't taint them
obviously
midnight totem
Good afternoon everybo-
By the Emperor
Firing into shield doesn't count I think
crisp oak
Just do a mission with plasma
Hit your charged shots
And have no survivalist
And its done
(Preferably with a grey low ammo plasma gun)
vivid silo
Finally a use for a 0% stat weapon!
crisp oak
Finally a use for a 0% stat weapon!
A psyker would probably pay a liver for a 0% warp resistance staff/force sword
severe gale
shotguns are good too, as just one pellet hitting counts as a hit
crisp oak
The reason I suggested plasma was bulwarks
Bulwark shield hits count as a miss
Plasma goes through shield, so not a miss
faint beacon
shotguns are good too, as just one pellet hitting counts as a hit
Get out of my veteran chat you hate the class noob……
severe gale
Get out of my veteran chat you hate the class noob……
i didn’t realize i was in here
faint beacon
GET OUT
severe gale
and plus
faint beacon
GET OUTTTTT
severe gale
you crutch on vag
so like
ur basically just braindead
vet player
go use a real weapon
like plasma
and rashad
faint beacon
Zealot player btw ^^
severe gale
fucking noob
pastel pumice
again
faint beacon
Zealot player calling me a noob 🙄
vivid silo
severe gale
I assume i'm in zealot chat
who’s name
pastel pumice
gale
severe gale
I don't know if you can out-top him
what.
pastel pumice
are you a bigger goober than him
severe gale
i’d check but i cant on mobile rn
pastel pumice
I wouldn't know lol
severe gale
are you a bigger goober than him
yes
i’m fairly sure i have more messages in zealot chat
than him
pastel pumice
I will remember you from here on
faint beacon
I’m the server mandated Veteran player of Zealot chat
Aka they all hate me cause they WISH they were me
A veteran main
severe gale
Aka they all hate me cause they WISH they were me
nobody wants to main vet
pastel pumice
Whos gonna tell her
faint beacon
nobody wants to main vet
Mad cause bad 🙄
light ridge
Take it to Zealot chat please
severe gale
Take it to Zealot chat please
queen fox
severe gale
there we go
faint beacon
She’s mad she can’t use the Vigilant Auto as good as me so she copes by calling me a bad veteran main
crisp oak
You use the vigilant auto
severe gale
She’s mad she can’t use the Vigilant Auto as good as me so she copes by calling ...
you with mk3 evis me with VAG true duo when
we make each others builds
terse idol
Oh i tried rhe mk6 knife yesterday
faint beacon
you with mk3 evis me with VAG true duo when
terse idol
I don't have the muscle memory to consistently do the H1, H2, PA, H1 attack yet
faint beacon
When I actually have free time
terse idol
faint beacon
Cause that sounds funny
pale sand
Bro virgin autogun is pretty peak guys don't sleep on the autoguns. Infant Autogun and Brapauto are good too.
severe gale
When I actually have free time
boooooo
faint beacon
Build swap duo
severe gale
Cause that sounds funny
true !
terse idol
Shits hard
faint beacon
Like no dead serious that sounds fun
severe gale
Bro virgin autogun is pretty peak guys don't sleep on the autoguns. Infant Autog...
please do not call it the brap auto
severe gale
Like no dead serious that sounds fun
yah agreed
pale sand
please do not call it the brap auto
I mean it shits on heretics
severe gale
I mean it shits on heretics
faint beacon
I’ll have to send you my build I use now
pale sand
Nomitive concurrence
My agripper is now the fortnite funny cannon and nobody can stop me
pastel pumice
Vag being the acronym is crazy
severe gale
I’ll have to send you my build I use now
mine is just standard tknife bene FOTF BP mk3 evis with shred PS flak elites, bolter with SI Puncture cara unyield
lmfao
acronym slop
severe gale
Vag being the acronym is crazy
i started saying that because it’s funny
faint beacon
Vag being the acronym is crazy
It’s VA she just keeps calling it the VAG
severe gale
i don’t think anyone else says it
pastel pumice
It is funny indeed...
severe gale
i still think FGS should be BFG
faint beacon
Me and her literally only say it when talking to eachother that’s it
severe gale
because FGS looks like a slur at first glance
and it makes me do a double take
and BFG is funny
crisp oak
It’s VA she just keeps calling it the VAG
Nah the va sucks, vag is good though
pale sand
Wouldn't it be BFS?
faint beacon
Look what you did
faint beacon
Now you’ve spread it
pale sand
As in Big Force Sword (or big fucking sword)?
crisp oak
I prefer fg
pale sand
Aaaaaah.
crisp oak
Force grabber
crisp oak
severe gale
faint beacon
yeah like i spread ur moms VAG
severe gale
i know what you are.
faint beacon
It’s just a phase hopefully.
pale sand
Imagine being Galephobic...
severe gale
idek what galeophobia is
pale sand
He literally blows himself up when he's hungies...
severe gale
if it’s a thing
faint beacon
Yeah I FUCKING HATE sharks
severe gale
It’s just a phase hopefully.
you’ll grow out of it
faint beacon
if it’s a thing
It’s another term for Selachiiophobia
severe gale
you’re just doing it for attention
severe gale
It’s another term for Selachiiophobia
oh thanks that explains a lot
faint beacon
Fear of Sharks
severe gale
i see
pale sand
I hate sharks that have a weight problem.
pastel pumice
Speaking of BFG
crisp oak
I like the space sharks
pastel pumice
faint beacon
severe gale
https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660
she WISHES she was elster signalis
pale sand
I like the space sharks
The quieter the chapter master, the better the second founding chapter.
Hence why Tyberos = Besteros
crisp oak
The quieter the chapter master, the better the second founding chapter.
Facts
Also he got dual chainfists/powerclaws
pastel pumice
@severe gale Who is that
pale sand
That's why they gave Angelos a demon hammer
Speak softly [in the library] and carry a big [demon] stick.
severe gale
<@265332960792805378> Who is that
who is who
pastel pumice
Elster
severe gale
signalis main charaxter
pastel pumice
Single
severe gale
u play as
pastel pumice
Oh from the game
pastel pumice
Never played
severe gale
even more pawesome
pale sand
Elster likes girls
pastel pumice
Bet its good though
severe gale
Elster likes girls
she just like me
severe gale
Bet its good though
it’s so good
pastel pumice
I also like women
pale sand
YOU LIKE KISSING GIRLS!!!!
severe gale
I also like women
not in the way i do…
pastel pumice
terse idol
not in the way i do…
Oh you've been playing signalis lately?
severe gale
Oh you've been playing signalis lately?
i finished it a while ago
pale sand
terse idol
I started a playthrough not too long sho 
severe gale
I started a playthrough not too long sho <a:fastcrazybongogek:728996035598352505...
finish it
terse idol
Just got done the first medical wing
severe gale
play aggressively
terse idol
Yeesss
terse idol
🥹
i already healed
severe gale
trust…
terse idol
Monkas!
severe gale
🥹
*i already healed*
just don’t heal too much
terse idol
severe gale
<a:writegek:811879813472190474>
you have basically until death
u can always take one extra hit before u die
on a cooldown
terse idol
No injectors too?
severe gale
and a chance to not take damage when you get hit
pale sand
Peak fucking
severe gale
Peak fucking
i’m like ryan gosling but a girl
pale sand
Imagine if James Sunderland had emotional intelligence
Zamn I'm literally Ryan Gosling...
Small world
severe gale
Imagine if James Sunderland had emotional intelligence
imagine if james sunderland didn’t just lose his mind and go insane
severe gale
the feminine urge to fight through horrors beyond this reality to keep my promise
orchid hemlock
https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-goslin...
TRUUUU
orchid hemlock
*dies
pale sand
The good ending
orchid hemlock
the feminine urge to fight through horrors beyond this reality to keep my promis...
terse idol
pale sand
Now hold on Trauma Dad genre is still alive and well
severe gale
orchid hemlock
god, why didn u make me a Nid 😭
terse idol
Same with Lonely Nerd horror
tawny timber
mister E is cookingso hard
pale sand
Character is pretty man coded but it could go either way
tawny timber
in case you guys didnt get the joke hes saying the kickback is a penis111!
terse idol
Am I gonna get miside..
pale sand
MAN HES RIGHT THOUGH PUT THAT SHIT BACK TO 13 MINIMUM PELLET COUNT
Lemme entire rooms with one load
pale sand
I got all the depressive games I wanted so far
You got that Disco Elysium though????
tawny timber
remove all ogryn weapon except for twin linked stubber
pale sand
pale sand
Most excellent. Up there with LISA as RPGs I must be autistic about.
pale sand
orchid hemlock
orchid hemlock
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YSmFlLAcZ58
this goes hard 😔
terse idol
https://tenor.com/view/disco-elysium-no-truce-with-the-furies-music-dance-disco-...
The homosexual underground isnt real, it can't hurt you
The homosexual underground:
pale sand
20-70 hour investment.
pale sand
The combat is actually a LOT of fun once you parse the debuff system.
severe gale
MAN HES RIGHT THOUGH PUT THAT SHIT BACK TO 13 MINIMUM PELLET COUNT
what is minimum pellet count
i’ve seen people mention or talk about it but
i didn’t actually know what it is
calm shard
what is minimum pellet count
any weapon with multiple pellets will at LEAST do the damage of a certain number of pellets hitting
no matter how many actually hit
severe gale
any weapon with multiple pellets will at **LEAST** do the damage of a certain nu...
oh ok that makes sense
calm shard
but they can do more if more hit
severe gale
https://tenor.com/view/okay-okay-hammers-northernlion-northernlion-meme-hammers-...
is a metaphor for penisss
calm shard
old image
pale sand
what is minimum pellet count
What they said above. It's the principle responsible for why I can snipe people with the Mk 5 unbraced.
Kickback used to have it set to 21 of 32 
faint beacon
Guys the kickback is bad I promise!
terse idol
I'm krieg maxing like nothing rn
faint beacon
Deletes literally everything
terse idol
I'm in the trenches in my mind
pale sand
Is hotshot infernus?
orchid hemlock
terse idol
No
faint beacon
Is hotshot infernus?
.5 hitmass on Weakspot hit
terse idol
Its cleave on weakspot hit
pale sand
Ooooh
faint beacon
Aka pseudo BM
pale sand
It's like man-stopper right?
faint beacon
Works passively even when put up so your melees benefit from it
terse idol
Noo
faint beacon
Manstopper is infinite
terse idol
It works on weakspot hit
pale sand
Is that... any good? I've been using no respite armours bane I think?
Or no surgical armoursbane
severe gale
Works passively even when put up so your melees benefit from it
wait fr??
severe gale
Manstopper is infinite
it used to be
pale sand
Was thinking of maybe getting the chained shot one I forgot what is called.
terse idol
Yes
severe gale
got nerfed though
terse idol
Hotshot is always active
severe gale
Was thinking of maybe getting the chained shot one I forgot what is called.
weight of fire
terse idol
I tried shovel on auric maelstrom
severe gale
Yeah it gives 25% extra something now
yeah but the nerf was limiting its cleave
pale sand
It's like with bm
They gave it 10% weakspot but got rid of infinite cleave past 3 bogies
terse idol
In the guiiide
pale sand
Friendship ended with bromentum new friendship with perfect strike
terse idol
Weighted fire and surgical for the other 2 helbores
The fastest firing doesn't need it seemingly
faint beacon
Why you’ll see Hotshot Helbore users usually run Shovel
terse idol
Yes it makes shovel actually even more enjoyable to use
I just feel so weak vs crushers
orchid hemlock
man CES is boring, where are my gpu launches?
terse idol
faint beacon
Uncanny
orchid hemlock
AAAAAAAAAA
orchid hemlock
Push attack + Light 1 + Light 2 repeat
ur mom
orchid hemlock
pale sand
It’s kind of like the taxe with extra steps
Speaking of the taxe the 7 is pretty sexxo
2 is good but I like the 7.
Works the best on 420 blazeit zealots
severe gale
Push attack + Light 1 + Light 2 repeat
wrong, uncanny, skullcrusher
special, PA
repeat
1.6k damage
tame lodge
Real
orchid hemlock
yall are wrong
tame lodge
One tap Scab Ragers
orchid hemlock
go lacerate fist knife
crisp oak
wrong, uncanny, skullcrusher
special, PA
Uncanny decimator though
crisp oak
Thrust shovel
tame lodge
punch everything to death
Smackdown Flesh Tearer
crisp oak
The most chad of shovels
terse idol
I always get messed up knowing that it's sometimes better to left click an enemy than spam heavies
And I only learned recently after having played and understood more vt2
faint beacon
wrong, uncanny, skullcrusher
special, PA
Shut up you’re bad
You don’t even run Deci
🚬
severe gale
You don’t even run Deci
you literally stinky
faint beacon
Bro shut up chud
orchid hemlock
faint beacon
i stink good
Explode immediately
pale sand
i stink good
you also have girl cooties… not even grandfather nurgle can sire such a pestilence.
orchid hemlock
terse idol
hollow ibex
AMD desperately playing catch up.
orchid hemlock
This is soo boring
Where are my gpu prices?
bruh they have 5 minutes
where are my gpus?
grand perch
lol, entire havoc40 team gets disconnected at the exact same moment.
clearly that warrants losing 1 attempt
faint beacon
lol, entire havoc40 team gets disconnected at the exact same moment.
Shouldn’t have crashed bro 🤷♂️
tawny timber
skissue
orchid hemlock
@tall torrent i will pay you for true survivor 😔
Pls I just want to get this so I never again touch havocs
primal zealot
Fear not everyone I just picked a few grand in nvda calls
So this shits gonna drill
novel moat
Still patiently waiting for Heavy Autogun or Hot-shot volleygun for Veteran
My beloved.
viral nacelle
My beloved.
i mean i feel like this art virtually guarantees we're gonna get something
probably not belt fed tho
i can imagine that being an animation nightmare
imagine weapon swapping at speed with a belt and it flies past your head into space 😂
novel moat
I know, likes its GOTTA happen at some point. and I don't even really need for it to be belt fed, just high-capacity
And the recon lasgun does NOT scratch the itch.
broken spade
oh is ces happening now?
primal zealot
Yea
faint beacon
There’s ways to reload a belt fed without it needing to be attached to a backpack
The biggest issue would be hotshots seeing they’re usually connected to them
Knowing FS they’ll probably make it some sort of large drum at the bottom of the gun
orchid hemlock
oh is ces happening now?
AMD didn't mention their gpus 💀
Nvidia sweeping again, even before they mention anything
tame lodge
Knowing FS they’ll probably make it some sort of large drum at the bottom of the...
Chat
Who's going to tell
💀
radiant chasm
For veteran
You are getting 2 more plasma gun variants
That all want slightly different mod scores for maximum effectiveness
deep bone
I hope we get a Plasma Pistol ngl
novel moat
You are getting 2 more plasma gun variants
faint beacon
Chat
Who's going to tell
The joke is they’ll never do it
radiant chasm
Oh and 3rd power sword variant
Or maybe the psword rework
My 🔮 is getting cloudy
tame lodge
The joke is they’ll never do it
Gimme a sec
I know there's a magdrum hotshot mini
faint beacon
Gimme a sec
I know there's a magdrum hotshot mini
You telling me it’s an actual fucking thing Lmao
Like my shot in the dark was right
tame lodge
You telling me it’s an actual fucking thing Lmao
Well not quite
Tempestus Aquilons iirc
novel moat
Oh and 3rd power sword variant
faint beacon
Well not quite
Okay
Okay okay okay
If they actually do that I’m sold
I love that style of drum
tiny valve
Guys is the shockmaul any good? Considering trying it out after I finish devils claw sword.
hollow ibex
Meh
tame lodge
Guys is the shockmaul any good? Considering trying it out after I finish devils ...
Bad against monstrosities
So bring a Bolter or something
hollow ibex
It’s ok. Has a niche
novel moat
I would like a backpack for it, but I'd live without if it meant we just actually got either/or.
tame lodge
Skullcrusher is mandatory
tiny valve
I haven't played this game in ages what's skullcrusher?
faint beacon
I *would* like a backpack for it, but I'd live without if it meant we just actua...
Not possible seeing we have a backpack accessory slot for customization
That and it would heavily mess with outfits
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> i will pay you for true survivor 😔
I don’t have true survivor myself
And I wouldn’t use it over poxbreaker anyway
novel moat
Not possible seeing we have a backpack accessory slot for customization
I think not possible is a bit extreme. It could just replace the backpack item when equipped.
orchid hemlock
What's poxbreaker again?
tall torrent
What's poxbreaker again?
1M personal kills
tall torrent
I think poxbreaker is a cooler sounding title than “true survivor”
faint beacon
Is it really harder to get? 🤔
I don’t have it
Lmao
If that says anything
I’m like 999k though
orchid hemlock
If that says anything
Do u have true survivor?
faint beacon
Nope
orchid hemlock
faint beacon
Cause I haven’t bothered fully grinding havoc
Besides it’s a genuinely miserable game mode
I’m doing H40 and getting true Survivor for penance completion and then sticking to AuMaels
tall torrent
I would have gotten true survivor if potato didn’t insta-melt from gunner then blew themselves up in the one havoc game we played lol
orchid hemlock
I have the Havoc Forge title
The problem is that getting downed in high havocs is kinda inevitable with how horrible this game is coded
tiny valve
Anyway what would you guys recommend to take as a melee weapon for something like infantry autogun? I want to try things out myself which is why I'm planing on levelling multiple weapons I just don't know where to start.
balmy flume
I’m doing H40 and getting true Survivor for penance completion and then sticking...
You could always join really low level Havocs to farm that assist penance.
tall torrent
Anyway what would you guys recommend to take as a melee weapon for something lik...
Combat axe
calm shard
Sigh, I always comes backs to Rashad doesn't it?
would you rather it all be dueling swords
tall torrent
Sigh, I always comes backs to Rashad doesn't it?
Until they give veteran another good all-rounder melee it’s just gonna be Rashad 24/7
orchid hemlock
would you rather it all be dueling swords
Tbh, yes
calm shard
rashad at least has downsides despite being busted as fuck
balmy flume
Sigh, I always comes backs to Rashad doesn't it?
I think most of us have found that 1 or 2 weapons where we really know how to roll...and then just find all the other weapons don't have the same feel
calm shard
though tbh
steep prairie
what about power sword?
calm shard
I still like using heavy sword when I'm using helbore
helbore kills carapace so I don' need to worry about heavy swords awful carapace damage
tall torrent
what about power sword?
Rashad lite (but takes way less investment to be good)
orchid hemlock
BTW @tall torrent is right side now better than center on the top of the talent tree?
tall torrent
BTW <@366562874039992331> is right side now better than center on the top of the...
For havoc I think yes
calm shard
what about power sword?
kills better than the rashad with less investment, but is even fucking slower and has to be turned back on every 3 swings
steep prairie
so if you go down the weapon specialist tree you would take rashad, and power sword otherwise?
faint beacon
You could always join really low level Havocs to farm that assist penance.
That’s the plan but im 32
tall torrent
so if you go down the weapon specialist tree you would take rashad, and power sw...
Usually yea
faint beacon
And I’ve yet to do 40
orchid hemlock
The only problem with Rashad is you kinda need Trench with it
faint beacon
So I’m gonna try to keep my havoc rank above 35 for True
Once I get that
Then I’ll butcher the rank for assists
tall torrent
Then I’ll butcher the rank for assists
Do assists first
balmy flume
I done my level 40 once
I'm going to use Discord LFG for True Survivor...when I feel like it
(I hang Havoc Forged on my title to prove to people I had done Lvl 40 at some point lol)
tall torrent
I done my level 40 once
I'm going to use Discord LFG for True Survivor...*when I...
Nah it’s not needed because the game defaults to showing h40 as your level
faint beacon
Do assists first
Thing is I want an easier fall back to guarantee 40 and True runs
Vs waiting for a friend
tall torrent
Thing is I want an easier fall back to guarantee 40 and True runs
Nah just hitch off someone else’s h40
balmy flume
Nah it’s not needed because the game defaults to showing h40 as your level
(Even accounting for decay?)
tall torrent
(Even accounting for decay?)
The one shown above ur name is always “highest completed ever” and doesn’t have decay
So havoc forged is a useless title lol
tall torrent
I think poxbreaker is the coolest sounding title in the game
And it’s one that most people can’t randomly get
crisp oak
I think poxbreaker is the coolest sounding title in the game
My favorite is shift supervisor
Or ring master
orchid hemlock
@tall torrent bte what do u run for curios in Havoc? 🤔
terse idol
I keep playing an auric maelstrom before I access my havoc panel at the beginning of the week
IM STUCK IN HAVOC 1 STILL
light ridge
Heh Infiltration vision removes the ventilation purge filter
For once I see more in stealth
crude fiber
1 stam 2 toughness is good on vet
crude fiber
Wounderan
hollow ibex
1 stam 2 toughness is good on vet
Just don’t get sniped or burstered
crude fiber
Just have yellow toughness 4head
crisp oak
Except wound <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Martyrdom vet is such a good build what are you talking about
wanton dawn
I should probably do that at some point. Just to get a reaction out of mates
crisp oak
I wish I took a ss of the martyrdom ogryn
orchid hemlock
Wound actually doubles ur health
crisp oak
Wound actually doubles ur health <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
It does
wanton dawn
Definitely take wound in havoc tentacle head mod
It will go fine
Definitely won't get one tapped by overhead
crisp oak
Definitely won't get one tapped by overhead
Yup
crude fiber
Wound actually doubles ur health <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Your not even accounting for your downed health. All wounds is the ultimate tank build
remote sonnet
I definitely never recommend Dclaw to anyone. It is my preference.
It is funny because you can parry the overhead attack from behind you.
I just love the gimmick.
wanton dawn
Man, I wished we could have some more gunplay in havoc
crude fiber
Too bad, pox hardened skin for you
wanton dawn
I dont mind pox hardened. I do mind 25% ammo efficiency
crude fiber
I love getting gunner/reaper spam with pox hardened skin
crisp oak
My favorite was a pus hardened sniper that was like 300 meters away from us
remote sonnet
Hardened + blight is the worst combo.
crisp oak
Wasnt aware that was a spawn location
crisp oak
Hardened + blight is the worst combo.
Hardened parasite is a sleeper pain
grand perch
I think poxbreaker is the coolest sounding title in the game
im still mad they nerfed the penance to kill 1,000,000 enemies to a mere 500,000 enemies when i was at like 980,000 kills
wanton dawn
im still mad they nerfed the penance to kill 1,000,000 enemies to a mere 500,000...
You get a title at 1m now
grand perch
yeah i know
crude fiber
At least when they added the 1000000 back it tracked retroactively
wanton dawn
It does not feel the same, but it is something
grand perch
but back in that patch suddenly everyone was running that frame which suddenly became worthless
remote sonnet
You use frame to show off your achievements. I use frame for fashion.
crisp oak
the one that has a longlas in it - my beloved
The fuck you snipers penance
remote sonnet
Honestly though, I don't even know what most of the frames are and where they come from.
grand perch
The fuck you snipers penance
thats the one. always had a hate boner for snipers
crisp oak
My favorite is the dog killing one's description "you should join the arbites"
wanton dawn
Nothing feels as good as going exe stance bolter on fog sniper map
remote sonnet
My favorite is the dog killing one's description "you should join the arbites"
As the tradition dictates.
crisp oak
Indeed
remote sonnet
Use the double barrel shotgun
stable socket
idk if bulwark shields count as a hit, i've heard sanction redactus target shields count tho
shotguns are very forgiving because of the spread, as long as one pellet hits it won't be a miss
remote sonnet
Also low ammo count, easier to empty out.
dire olive
Die at start, respawn with 50% ammo
mortal horizon
do any other guns keep up for meta havoc builds (35+) on vet with the plasma and recon las?
or are those the two best for sure
havent experimented, just wondering if anything else feels close to as good for those, maybe bolter, columnus (or w/e its called now) or revolver?
heavy rover
do any other guns keep up for meta havoc builds (35+) on vet with the plasma and...
i'd say mk ii infantry las w/ headhunter and ghost
plus deadshot too
mortal horizon
i'd say mk ii infantry las w/ headhunter and ghost
ah, good at picking off gunners and keeping you safe i guess?
heavy rover
yeah
mortal horizon
interesting bc its firepower total is terible
heavy rover
plus shotgunners too
mortal horizon
but its does excel at that 1 thing
heavy rover
its higher fire rate compared to the rest of the infantry lasguns mean you can have more repeated upkeep of ghost
calm shard
do any other guns keep up for meta havoc builds (35+) on vet with the plasma and...
helbores offer similar performance to plasma gun with MUCH more ammo, but you have to build more into them
and also have to deal with their god awful draw times
heavy rover
it's how I've been staying alive on havoc 35+
wanton dawn
Haven't seen good lasgun play in h40 at this point. Though tbf I haven't done that much h40
calm shard
infantry lasgun is good for the same reason every psyker should be running staff
mortal horizon
should i be building either of these differently? I've heard some say infernus isnt worth but i find it really good idk, i find myself shooting targets and leaving them to burn a lot
heavy rover
i've pretty much exclusively been using the mk ii infantry las for havoc
wanton dawn
Yeah... no... please don't compare plasma to hellbore
heavy rover
also I rarely get concerned about ammo with the infantry las, even with the reduced ammo recovery on higher havoc
calm shard
Mk IV helbore is very similar in playstyle to plasma though
mortal horizon
and what do you guys do for curios in havoc, im still rocking 3 stam, 2x toughness
but should i be swapping to hp?
heavy rover
I use the same curios
calm shard
hp is still worse in havoc
shooters will instant kill you regardless of health
but enough TDR can give you time to react
especially on vet with iron will
tall torrent
tap anything smaller than a crusher
What
calm shard
mk iv helbore and plasma gun
mortal horizon
5% tough, 4% cooldown, 12% stamina regen perks across the board fine too for havoc?
ive been doing fine, but my zealot build is way more tuned in and havent messed with my vet one so shoring it up lol
calm shard
you don't need their charged shots for smaller enemies so you just tapfire them
calm shard
to save ammo
tall torrent
I don’t think the krieg backpack fits that well with Elysian armor
vernal trench
Idk it fits pretty well to me
pale pecan
Can someone verify I'm not crazy
Full Bore is a Player buff not a Weapon buff right?
I swear I can quick swap to the slug shotgun, throw a slug at an enemy, then use that 20% power bonus w/ my Melee
wanton dawn
Tbf i dont see much lasgun alltogether
And you know that top 5 in havoc is pretty low commitment
Eh, called it !
Karnak hm ?
Also no ammo maelstrom and prenerf blessed boss
Fair
What are the 4 guns above btw ?
Eh, i should try bolter
Played hip or ads ?
On vet
My prob with bolter is low synergy with melee build, and poor havoc ammo eco that limit gunplay
That the ammo eco issue
Spoken like a true veteran
If it werent for the ammo eco it'd be a no brainer in my book
Anyway, ill try it next time
My general feeling on lasguns
Just hit headshot lul
Have you tried inspiring barrage on bolter ?
The rounding down effect is pretty fun
I dont think its meta. I just think its fun
Refill your bar in half a mag
With that being said, need to get my beauty sleep. Good daemon hunting mate
torn comet
ok im pretty new to looking for "perfect" stat rolls but is there a way the normal stat caps can go above 380? Have a helbore at melks with all 80s but 1 at 61 which i thought couldnt happen?
acoustic wharf
woo-hoo ambush! ( such enthusiasm xD )
tall torrent
ok im pretty new to looking for "perfect" stat rolls but is there a way the norm...
Backend rounding problems
Dw it doesn’t matter basically ever
torn comet
ah okay, thanks
arctic rampart
did you just finish working on the drywall at mcdonalds?
... 2 chicks at the same time
fading yarrow
Almost got True Survivor tonight
Mercantile, 36, shout Vet (me), bubble Psyker, book/cleanse Zealot, taunt shield Ogryn
It was going well until we got to the area just before the bridge to the amphitheatre; champion spawn, horde, Plogryn, tox bomber
I got separated and downed by a gunner I couldn't see, Psyker followed soon after, we both died but the Zealot and Ogryn clutched up to rescue us
We cleared, though I do wish I played it cool, might've been able to save myself and the Psyker
stable socket
the trick for true survivor is to just die instantly without getting downed (mostly joking but it sorta works)
i barreled someone into instant death in sycorax yesterday but we still got it afterwards
stable socket
it does make things harder on the team because you gotta 3 man it until you pick up the person again (whereas if they just got downed you could immediately rez them and keep going with 4), but not losing the chance for true survivor is a small silver lining in a pretty bad situation
remote sonnet
However, it is hard on the rest of the team and they might get wiped.
stable socket
yeah the ideal situation is nobody gets downed or dies, for sure
shadow dagger
whats the way to go curio wise for havoc
is going for 200hp still the play or is that borderline impossible
remote sonnet
Just do it the normal way with good players, it is less stressful for everyone.
fading yarrow
whats the way to go curio wise for havoc
I just go triple Toughness with extra Toughness, cooldown reduction, and stamina regen on all three
stable socket
i'm just saying that if you're doing a true survivor run and one person outright dies without first being downed, true survivor is still technically possible
fading yarrow
On a tangential note, I wish the Havoc weekly reward cache could be claimed automatically
Missed last week's because I thought it was available to claim on Mondays
tacit sonnet
What
I thought you can claim it any day of the week?
Or did you not claim it the entire previous week?
fading yarrow
It wasn't available to claim whenever I checked
I did claim the caches for the three weeks prior to last week, though
tacit sonnet
Last week havoc was bugged, I didn't recieve any rewards at all even though I successfully completed h40. Are you sure your havoc counted?
fading yarrow
I had an assignment rank of 35 at the time, so I'm pretty sure
Currently sitting at 34, but I did just complete a 36 so that'll be my new rank next week
tacit sonnet
I think only your highest havoc completed this week is important. It's a number on the right of the havoc screen
And for me last week it was 0 no matter what I completed
hollow ibex
Did anyone get rewards for last week lmao
paper trellis
well that was a new one. got the lack of audio cue bug on a dh of all things, hit a group with flames, and suddenly the dh wanted me dead
there wasn't even the aura around it, was just a body in the middle of chaff
umbral scaffold
veterunning from all my problems
crisp oak
Did anyone get rewards for last week lmao
Nah still salty, wanted my diamantine
pastel yew
Did anyone get rewards for last week lmao
I did but for the wrong level
it still updated my rank though which is the most important thing so
can't complain
viral nacelle
Did anyone get rewards for last week lmao
I think yes
trim steppe
Missed last week's because I thought it was available to claim on Mondays
I got double rewards for my 35 two weeks ago, then last week I did a 40 and got no reward crate. My assignment is a 40 for this week tho so there's that
I guess I won't miss 7k plasteel lol
viral nacelle
I have a morbillion resources so it’s hard to say
trim steppe
With the havoc rewards we'll all be plasteel millionaires soon
arctic rampart
you weren't already?
trim steppe
I spent my plasteel in the endless RNG machine so I wasnt
Probably spent a mil tho lol
paper trellis
huh, the peaking is actually kinda said
pale pecan
With the havoc rewards we'll all be plasteel millionaires soon
Yeah, all the 40s have been lining my pockets nicely
pale pecan
huh, the peaking is actually kinda said
It's actually kinda neat for some weapons
Granted you gotta take the smallest vet size possible to get the most value
paper trellis
Did anyone get rewards for last week lmao
oh so it wasn't just me?
bitter vessel
What’s the best vet build for someone who’s trying to get good enough for havoc
paper trellis
Granted you gotta take the smallest vet size possible to get the most value
short king vet canonically strongest
pale pecan
short king vet canonically strongest
Honestly though it's legit
When I first got the game I did it as a meme
Until I figured out with my Zealot who I made comically large
that he is in fact too large to crouch behind cover to hide from snipers and other ranged enemies
My Vet ofc never had this issue
tall torrent
Granted you gotta take the smallest vet size possible to get the most value
Nah
It’s so underutilized it doesn’t matter
pale pecan
What’s the best vet build for someone who’s trying to get good enough for havoc
Ngl, Plasma Gun, Power Sword, Shredder Frags, Demolition Team
trim steppe
What’s the best vet build for someone who’s trying to get good enough for havoc
Survivalist and shout will carry you pretty far, take a plasma gun and probably a duelling sword or something for hordeclear depending on team comp
tall torrent
short king vet canonically strongest
Nah, near max height is way easier to hit weakspots in melee
tall torrent
What’s the best vet build for someone who’s trying to get good enough for havoc
What melee are u planning on using
pale pecan
Nah, near max height is way easier to hit weakspots in melee
This is true, but I unironically have an easier time with the Mk 6's weird stab hitbox with a smaller character
On Crushers/Monstrosities specifically
bitter vessel
What melee are u planning on using
I think dueling sword but just because it’s what I’m used to from psyker
pale pecan
Can't go wrong with DS
trim steppe
Ngl, Plasma Gun, Power Sword, Shredder Frags, Demolition Team
DS only downfall is bad horde clear but if you take shredders with demo team you dont really have to worry about that lol
tall torrent
I think dueling sword but just because it’s what I’m used to from psyker
Are u playing veteran in havoc just for fun or
pale pecan
DS only downfall is bad horde clear but if you take shredders with demo team you...
I like Power Sword over DS due to ease of access for horde and single target
bitter vessel
Is light attack spamming not the go to with horde clear? I saw someone using only the heavy thrusts to good effect
pale pecan
I try to really conserve my plasma for "Oh shit" situations
Like a flamer
Otherwise I just juice ammo out of elites with my PS
bitter vessel
Are u playing veteran in havoc just for fun or
I’ve been playing a couple months and just want to build up to being good enough for havoc
tall torrent
Is light attack spamming not the go to with horde clear? I saw someone using onl...
For mk4 duelling sword, heavy atk is only for single target
paper trellis
clearly the only true option is to grab shovel to establish superiority on heretics
pale pecan
Shovel is goated if you go for a Grenadier build
By far the best for that build rn
Maybe Shock Maul will get the buff it deserves
and take that spot
paper trellis
tbf that is the build i run it on, partially for the shits and giggles
trim steppe
I like Power Sword over DS due to ease of access for horde and single target
I'm just so accustomed to agile melee now that the power sword is like wearing an anchor. But it is great no doubt
pale pecan
I'm just so accustomed to agile melee now that the power sword is like wearing a...
You just have to get used to the dodges is all, I run an 80 mobility sword, so it's not all that bad
Besides 4 dodges is more than enough most of the time
I'm really surprised we haven't been nerfed to 3 yet
Or atleast 3 at 60%
tall torrent
I’ve been playing a couple months and just want to build up to being good enough...
I don’t think duelling sword is the best melee on veteran for havoc but it’s a very cheap option if u want single target (which frees up points for other things)
paper trellis
a lot of ppl swear by combat axe for vet
trim steppe
I might be leaning on dodge spam in melee too much cuz I always run out lol. Maybe practicing my PS skills again will up my game
pale pecan
But a Deci Uncanny Shovel with Carapace and Flak? You'll be juicing those Shredder Frags
paper trellis
I might be leaning on dodge spam in melee too much cuz I always run out lol. May...
nah, just need to get some pushes in there when you run out of viable dodges
pale pecan
ngl
crisp oak
or focus on spacing
heavy rover
I don’t think duelling sword is the best melee on veteran for havoc but it’s a v...
What melee do you like running for vet on havoc ?
tall torrent
What melee do you like running for vet on havoc ?
Rashad
pale pecan
I'm running 2 +3 stam curios on most of my builds rn just so I can push/block with the Power Sword easier
heavy rover
Ah
paper trellis
so much stamina
pale pecan
I used to run +2 on my sword but I wanted more dmg for Havoc
crisp oak
was considering heavy sword but not sure how it goes
heavy rover
Yeah I'm split between rashad and dueling sword
paper trellis
i haven't even gotten 2 +3s lmao. I did get one that was a lie
pale pecan
and I don't get hit so I don't need more toughness really
So I just went for 5% hp toughness and 4% cd with a 21% hp to get the 200hp mark
paper trellis
smdh at 400 rating curios out here lying
heavy rover
All three stamina curios with deadshot recon 
crisp oak
+9 stamina chads
paper trellis
I have all 430s
that hurts my soul
trim steppe
+3 stam is such a QOL boost that I will take the minor hit to the paper value
pale pecan
More than 1 stamina curio still is meme build
I do like the extra safety of having the stam tbh, and since I've swapped to having Mark Target with the stam refund, I get good value from the curios
tall torrent
If u don’t run health curio you have to take triple +5% health on perks basically
pale pecan
Since every time I kill an elite I get like 25% stam back
Which chains really well with the PS push attacks
crisp oak
If u don’t run health curio you have to take triple +5% health on perks basicall...
I'm.... just running 2 toughness with +toughness
am I missing some reason I need health?
tall torrent
Since every time I kill an elite I get like 25% stam back
Where 25%
paper trellis
i need to start blocking especially bad players so i stop getting them in parties >.> like the 3rd time i've gotten this zealot randomly
trim steppe
am I missing some reason I need health?
below a certain threshold I know a poxburster blast on high havoc will insta-kill you from full hp
pale pecan
5 stacks of focus target
trim steppe
But idk all the breakpoints
pale pecan
Each stack for 5% stam
crisp oak
below a certain threshold I know a poxburster blast on high havoc will insta-kil...
oh yeah that is a thing
pale pecan
5*5=25
crisp oak
didn't think hp would help with that tbh
hollow ibex
hp makes a big difference with snipers and bursters
crisp oak
I assumed I was dead either way
trim steppe
didn't think hp would help with that tbh
yeah its survivable with higher hp
tall torrent
am I missing some reason I need health?
Havoc has -35% health modifier OM players
Veteran has 150 base health, which is 97.5 in havoc
Sniper damage is 122.5
Burster damage is 100 (50 corruption at blast Center)
This means if you don’t have enough health, getting hit by a single burster insta-kills u
crisp oak
tall torrent
No down
crisp oak
fuckin bursters
pale pecan
Unless you have shout or gold toughness ofc
tall torrent
Immediate death
pale pecan
In short don't get hit
crisp oak
Immediate death
so what I'm hearing is true survivor material
tall torrent
so what I'm hearing is true survivor material
Well, the extra stamina doesn’t actually matter that much imo
pale pecan
that hurts my soul
💅
trim steppe
so what I'm hearing is true survivor material
low hp for true survivor runs lmao good idea
crisp oak
fair
trim steppe
low hp for true survivor runs lmao good idea
since insta-dying doesnt fail True Survivor
crisp oak
I basically use most of my stamina while trying to book it with the power sword
pale pecan
I'm ngl ya'll should 100% listen to @tall torrent I'm a goober who's gotten so decent at the game that I can afford to play off meta shit because I can make it work anyways
crisp oak
when zealot had book
pale pecan
You can't go wrong with 17% toughness or 21% hp
tall torrent
You’re not gonna block attacks much in havoc in the first place, and you don’t get much better PAs unless u take stam regen delay node
crisp oak
also psword push....
pale pecan
You’re not gonna block attacks much in havoc in the first place, and you don’t g...
Hence why I dumped stam regen, and instead took the stuff for flat stam refunds
Since it scales better with more stam I figured why not
tall torrent
Target Down
Target down is not 25%
pale pecan
It 100% makes chaining elite kills together with the PS push attack easier
tall torrent
Target down is like 10% each
pale pecan
Target down is like 10% each
You get what I mean though
If you're tagging effectively it's a good sustain
tall torrent
Yea, big difference between 10% and 25%
For power sword & duelling sword it’s good value ig?
pale pecan
||Cough cough catachan cough||
crisp oak
I imagine the catechans fall off in high havocs
tall torrent
Well
pale pecan
I've actually made it work with a silly build
tall torrent
Most things fall off going into havoc
pale pecan
I miss when the Infantry Lasgun was the meta
crisp oak
I ran plasma psword, and pretty much mained shredder frag grenades
pale pecan
🗿
crisp oak
and being dead
tall torrent
I miss when the Infantry Lasgun was the meta
They’re pretty good in havoc
crisp oak
shredder should get a buff
tall torrent
Well, at least the Mk IIb
tall torrent
With what build if I might ask?
Downside of infantry lasgun in havoc is that u want mostly left & middle, so you can’t run axe with it and perform as good
It has a lot of ammo and kills specialists better than laspistol