#veteran-class

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heavy rover
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depends on what you're looking for. Are you aiming for more crowd control or for crushers / bosses?

red laurel
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Recon Lasgun can do CC?

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I just wanna use the pressure washer

heavy rover
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with the right build, yeah

vestal widget
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on vet you can just shoot into crowds if you critstack since you are absurdly ammo efficient

red laurel
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If so then what should I compensate for with my melee?

warm bolt
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I think the most popular one is using Inferno blessing

heavy rover
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and for bulwarks too

vestal widget
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depends what your build doesn't handle great

main choices are whether you want the fastest firing one and take onslaught or infernus blessing (or both)
or one of the other ones (I forget the names now because fatshark changed all the names)

red laurel
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Understood

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What reason is there to take the other ones?

heavy rover
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for my other recon build w/ onslaught (crusher / boss-focus build), I have a crowd control melee like shovel

vestal widget
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you don't want to pay onslaught tax and you're going to take deathspitter instead of infernus

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or you wanna play with deadshot memes or something

heavy rover
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deadshot is quite fun on the recon

red laurel
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Deadshot deletes your stamina bar

heavy rover
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combine that with target down on the focus target keystone, you can replenish stamina as you're firing

vestal widget
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depends how well you chain focus target and also when you unads

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but the fun of those builds is kinda having to do active stamina management if that makes sense

red laurel
vestal widget
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you go focus target, deadshot, shock trooper, probably duck and dive, deadshot, at least one stamina delay node

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and 3 stamina curios

heavy rover
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I can share you my crowd control build, just need a second to copy it over to the gameslantern build editor

vestal widget
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you might be able to go tunnel vision too but i haven't tried that, it's a while since I played deadshot memes

red laurel
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Can't believe I 1shot a Reaper with Plasma Gun

paper trellis
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How well do you think a darktide vet would match up against a kasrkin?

heavy rover
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I like going for headhunter, but dumdum is also good

vestal widget
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I play a different build than this but this is an alright build for onslaught build; dumdum infernus flak crit

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this one gets crit from reciprocity, 5% crit node and 5% crit perk

hollow ibex
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onslaught 🤮

vestal widget
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onslaught costs 3 points that you could put elsewhere (e.g. into grabbing desperado and the 10% attack speed node)

hollow ibex
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yeah

vestal widget
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if you run a decent-ish anti carapace weapon I don't think you really need to use onslaught

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(it takes a bit long to kill a crusher pack with onslaught compared to just hitting them with a rashad or ds4)

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This one has better melee hybridisation, a flak/unarmoured rashad one shots bruisers on first hit with this iirc

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(it also has bring it down because I use it on monstrous elites/that slug mode from the last event/etc type missions; I don't think that's strictly necessary and you could just grab CQKZ or smth)

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oh wait oops that doesn't have the 5% crit node, I think I grabbed that instead of stamina. although you can easily drop bring it down for stamina node or w/e else

tall torrent
vestal widget
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i wanna kill brusiers on the first hit when i have no stacks tho, feels bad every time I need to hit them twice

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but you're right that for average use it doesn't really matter so maybe you everyone else should just take carapace

pastel pumice
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i thank god everyday veteran chat is the most sane out of the other classes

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also those mods you guys hooked me up with are doing wonders

vital wren
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It's great, though I may lose my sanity when I work on my alts eventually. 😄

pastel pumice
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I wish you luck in the Zealot chat

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but then again we had a whole LN/Manga/Anime discussion in vet chat last night

regal belfry
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which weapons are good beside dsword,psword, caxe and cblade

red laurel
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Why does the Plasma Gun feel so weak?

atomic wyvern
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Should shred

red laurel
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Dunno

atomic wyvern
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It's like

red laurel
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Wanna give me an example?

atomic wyvern
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a very build centered gun or something apparently

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dunno i only used it for a short while

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but it should shred if you use it properly

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i mean if you want i can find a good build video for it

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that is a long ass link

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sec

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@red laurel this should help

hollow ibex
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tanner

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lmfao

atomic wyvern
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whats a tanner

hollow ibex
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content creator universally hated by anyone actually knowledgable about the game

atomic wyvern
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oh him yeah

tacit sonnet
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He's hated?

atomic wyvern
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he doesn't seem very nice

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he just hurls insultsa t his viewers

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apparently

atomic wyvern
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but he does good builds by all means

hollow ibex
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nah

tacit sonnet
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I saw his video talking about how overpowered DS4 on psyker is while killing a pogryn with 30 stacks of DD

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I closed it instantly

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I saw a couple of his videos before, they weren't this bad, but he YAPS SO MUCH

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CONSTANT YAPPING

hollow ibex
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it's hard to make a good/credible DT build when he's prob THE clinical example of the dunning kruger effect KEKW_ogryn

atomic wyvern
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i mean that

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tend sto be the case in a build video

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lmao

hollow ibex
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like half the time he's right

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but then the problem is, he just assume he's right the rest of the time too

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and he's so confident about it

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that people go along with it

atomic wyvern
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im reading his comments rn

hollow ibex
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and then come here and spout bullshit they learned from a tanner video

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and then we have this discussion all over again

atomic wyvern
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everyones going on about redemption arc and calmer tanner

hollow ibex
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it's an endless loop

atomic wyvern
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i think he's getting better

atomic wyvern
red laurel
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Any of ya'll use Assault Chainsword?

atomic wyvern
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really fun

hollow ibex
tacit sonnet
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I just removed him from my recommendations after I saw him saying DS4 IS OP ON PSYKER while this idiot has almost 30 dd stacks. Like, no shit, any weapon will shred with almost 30 dd stacks, excpet in real games YOU NEVER take +15 max stacks, you take +6 seconds

atomic wyvern
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in my defense i joined literally

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2 minutes ago

hollow ibex
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the tanner build you posted isn't awful at least

atomic wyvern
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eh

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thing is on the games lantern website i'd prefer to use it

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but the lack of people voting on whats good and whats shit kinda wards me off

hollow ibex
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it's perfectly fine, just not the attuned metaslave build i posted KEKW_ogryn

hollow ibex
tacit sonnet
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Just ask here if you need a build

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people are mostly competent

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There are also guides in the pins

atomic wyvern
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well i am currently going for one of his noob builds for people shit at the game

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want me to post the link

tacit sonnet
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Probably look there first

atomic wyvern
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going for this rn

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since i like my recon lasguns and i really wanna try out the dueling sword

vestal widget
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asking on here is probably better most of the time

tall torrent
tacit sonnet
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This is how I run my plasma most of the time

atomic wyvern
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i mean i think i'd be best following his build thingy im using FOR NOW and then kinda expand and improve it as my own knowledge grows

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tell me too much shit in such a short span of time i'm gonna do a psyker

tacit sonnet
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Why even

hollow ibex
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onslaught is shit anyway

tall torrent
tacit sonnet
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Is there a point?

tacit sonnet
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how

hollow ibex
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yup

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i'll let path explain it

atomic wyvern
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alr im gonna go do an operation

hollow ibex
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the neverending crusade against onslaught

atomic wyvern
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yall enjoy the onslaught argument

tacit sonnet
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onslaught is a bad talent, but with recon which has insane rof is should be good, right?

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
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got 68 hours darktide time but i've never complected a mission above level 3 lol

tacit sonnet
tall torrent
tacit sonnet
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Wasn't onslaught able to stack brittleness on multiple enemies?

hearty panther
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"I'm going to be a better person."
-tries-
"Omg why isn't everyone kissing my feet for being better."
many such cases

atomic wyvern
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ohy hey probably shouldnt ask in here

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but why did i randomly just get 3.5k plasteel

hollow ibex
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event?

atomic wyvern
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also also why does the catachan sword blade look like a fucking pencil sharpner

tacit sonnet
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event probably

vestal widget
hollow ibex
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or is the event over

hollow ibex
tacit sonnet
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I still like onslaught for dealing with crushers and bosses

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Can't say it's complete dogshit

atomic wyvern
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whats the event anyway

vestal widget
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I've played it before and it is fun but half the time i forget i have it

tacit sonnet
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I am going for the reciprocity anyway and talents on the way to onslaught are good

vestal widget
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and just use my melee on the crushers

hollow ibex
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havoc / helping < lvl 30 players

atomic wyvern
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lemme get to level 11 first

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want my build guns

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alr im in oepration

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bug yall later

terse idol
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Ya got 68 hours

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🥹

vestal widget
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... I assume they have a bunch of chars and also some idle time; i don;'t actually know what the level gain is for low levels

tacit sonnet
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It's not that difficult to take onslaught

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
vestal widget
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you could also just take attack speed there, or take rending strikes + crit node or a bunch of other things tho

terse idol
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I mean do you have any chars to 30?

hollow ibex
tall torrent
tacit sonnet
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well, it's a specifically mk XII build

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I thought of onslaught as not worth on any other build anyways

hollow ibex
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and not having trench fighter really really really hurts your melee options

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i'd rather just take a stronger melee and deal with crushers

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mano e mano

tacit sonnet
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I take rashad, it's been enough

hollow ibex
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rashad is pretty painful without melee speed

vestal widget
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playable tho since it's still rashad

tacit sonnet
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I barely use melee anyway

atomic wyvern
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im on a team of

tacit sonnet
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I use a bunch of melee weapons in this build

atomic wyvern
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3 fucking psykers

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but they refuse to push up

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😭

tall torrent
tacit sonnet
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The default shovel, chainsword, rashad

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All three worked decently

hollow ibex
atomic wyvern
hollow ibex
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welcome to psyker gameplay

atomic wyvern
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fair

tall torrent
tacit sonnet
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So are you if you are in malice?

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Sorry

hollow ibex
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they just have to press two buttons, and they tend to be the worst players in the game

atomic wyvern
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im level 9.

tall torrent
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as soon as u understand that u'll play better

hollow ibex
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next to glugger ogryns

atomic wyvern
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tf you want me to do in aujric lmfao

tall torrent
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usually

hollow ibex
tacit sonnet
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I switched to damnation at like level 12 when creating my 3rd and 4th character

vestal widget
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level 15

tacit sonnet
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It was tough but possible

vestal widget
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i've queued into auric with zero talents spent

tacit sonnet
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same

vestal widget
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very fun when I hit infiltrate and instead went into volley fire and got trappered

atomic wyvern
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wait is damnation 4 or 5

tacit sonnet
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5

meager kiln
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on overwatch sucks

atomic wyvern
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i will not be doing that

vestal widget
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and then realized what happened

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damnation is 5

tacit sonnet
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and my 4th character I was playing auric damnation by level 20-25

vestal widget
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but the ppl doing that have probably a lot more hours than u

tacit sonnet
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yes

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anyway, try damnation at least, don't care what others will think if you aren't good enough

atomic wyvern
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yeah i found it

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i wouldn't go past 2 difficulty

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went on 3

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oh t his is fun

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and i iamgine it'll be the case on 5

tacit sonnet
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If it's still too difficult, just switch back to 3 or 4

atomic wyvern
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just need to torture myself a little more lol

tacit sonnet
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It's not a problem

vestal widget
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i just got dropped straight into 3 maelstroms, 4s and 5s with a 3 stack of friends as a new player so it took me weeks to figure out the "you are about to be hit" noise because it was playing more or less constantly and my brain tuned it out

tacit sonnet
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When I first played darktide on release, I instantly knew what this noise was

vestal widget
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yeah, there's a like whooshing noise

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you can find videos of it on youtube if you want, let me see if i can find it in my chat history

tacit sonnet
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There is also a noise when you are about to get hit from behind in vermintide, but it's so quite I still have no idea what it actually sounds like

meager kiln
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i have 3 characters at like 25-28 and i didnt know this

terse idol
tacit sonnet
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And in darktide it's amazing how well you can hear it

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Thanks fatshark

terse idol
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Once you're max level

tacit sonnet
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Hear this noise = press shift

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or whatever the dodge button is, I don't remember defaults

meager kiln
terse idol
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To put it into consideration FS certainly balances the game for damnation

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To only play 4 is to experience a quarter of the content

tacit sonnet
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not really

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They also consider lower difficulties sometimes

gilded wraith
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Is there a recommended melee for a grenade focused et in havoc? Is it worth picking up skullcrusher on something?

vestal widget
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i think it makes the new player experience kind of horrible because you get like 5 specials a mission maybe, and hordes are very thin

tacit sonnet
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Good tutorial

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And still, MOST players play on malice

vestal widget
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so ppl don't really get what makes the game fun at all

terse idol
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Lower difficulty when

vestal widget
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2 should be a bit harder to be a smoother jump up I think, heresy could also stand to be maybe a bit easier but idk

terse idol
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The game is easier

tacit sonnet
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I think they found their own reasons why the game is fun if they are playing for hundreds of hours on malice

terse idol
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And mechanics aren't even found in lower diff

terse idol
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I just find it like

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If you have that many hours it will just kinda help to try

vestal widget
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that's fair. I just really enjoy highest difficulty and i wish other people would discover it and find it fun too, but the game doesn't do a good job of teaching you the jump up in difficulty

tacit sonnet
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Maybe they did

vestal widget
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in earlier difficulties

terse idol
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Its alot easier than say

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Vt2

vestal widget
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ah, I never played vt2

terse idol
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I'm playing champion to legend with some friends

tacit sonnet
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So they don't care and are just staying on comfortable difficulties

vestal widget
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i feel like i should sometime

terse idol
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And champ to legend is ALOT harder

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Darktide is already abit easier to learn because of toughness

atomic wyvern
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anyone getting the bug where

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they're stuck in the mourningstar chat in a mission

pastel pumice
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Press Enter

atomic wyvern
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cannot nag at my psykers to stop running away

pastel pumice
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Or Esc

atomic wyvern
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thats to oepn the chat

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thats the menu

pastel pumice
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Pull the end task on task manager

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And quickly reboot to rejoin the mission

sullen jackal
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you are in malice and you have 3 psykers

atomic wyvern
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yes

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eh ill live

terse idol
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You gotta

sullen jackal
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literally all you have to do is kill strays that might boop a psyker and they will omega super obliterate anything else that comes close

terse idol
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Calm down

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Until you can carry them you can't talk about how bad they are because they're learning

sullen jackal
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you're a babysitter keeping three superweapons safe

terse idol
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BREATH

sullen jackal
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unless there's literally no one with a decent staff weapon and/or assail in which case rip

atomic wyvern
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They're like

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all level 30 or something

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fancy titles

terse idol
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Show screen shot rn

pastel pumice
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On a real note

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Restart your game afterwards

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Fixes the chat bug

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Most if not all

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I couldn't open chat for like 2 missions lol

atomic wyvern
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lol ok, thx

pastel pumice
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No probs

sullen jackal
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seriously every mission I've been on with 3 psykers, as long as the last person is the adult in the room keeping threats away from the psyker that survive the warpstorms wrecking everything

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it literally becomes the easiest mission ever

balmy arrow
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Finally got the title . I’m glad it’s over.

atomic wyvern
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got a hellbore on me rn

atomic wyvern
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the helmet is so cool

balmy arrow
sullen jackal
# atomic wyvern got a hellbore on me rn

yeah so your job is to, again. stab infected that get through the maelstrom with your bayonet. shoot specials in the head. shoot gunners first(always), then ragers probably, then ranged soldiers

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even unskilled psykers do crazy amounts of damage as long as they edge their peril, but tends to miss an enemy or two because their stuff tends to be "to whom it may concern"

atomic wyvern
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i used it for the first 20 hours when i played vet

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the bayonet is disgustingly OP when it comes to headshot stabs

sullen jackal
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(ok so like... scrier's gaze melee psykers do exist and especially with the new two handed force greatsword can hold their own)

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(but also i'm guessing these are all baby ranged psykers because that's basically what they are without very good melee mechanics that tend to lead you to diving into large groups which they are NOT doing :p)

atomic wyvern
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TLDR: protect psyker, profit

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correct?

sullen jackal
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ye

atomic wyvern
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🎊

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oh shit just unlocked the dueling sword

vestal widget
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scriers illisi was a lot more painful before crack of bone tho

hollow ibex
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but most psyker players just like to pretend they don't have a melee weapon

atomic wyvern
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yay

sullen jackal
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because eventually they'll just annihilate everything by shitting out warp magicks in the general direction of enemies

vestal widget
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i did an exorcist illisi meme build before the rework

sullen jackal
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sometimes even they'll help you in the process because they took bubble shield 😄

atomic wyvern
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never had a psyker deploy a bubble shield in a helpful way lmfao

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one of them placed on the edge of a railing on that train mission where everyone kept fucking falling 😭

sullen jackal
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look bubble shields are literally just a zone of no gunnery fuckery

atomic wyvern
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oh yeah a bubble is a bubble ofc

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ill take it when i've got it

sullen jackal
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heck, afaik even if they get into the shield itself, I think the bubble shield just... deletes projectiles fired inside of it? Without even draining the shield health?

vestal widget
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yes

sullen jackal
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(which means that technically the best bubble shield is on the enemies)

vestal widget
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I bubble in aurics mostly to deny trappers/flamers or to thunderdome bon, or to get a free save of the newbies with KD

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a bad habit i am slowly breaking in havocs

sullen jackal
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oh right also with newbies you can just do like... voice of command, the extra toughness thing, and then the talent that gives part of your toughness regen to your allies lol

atomic wyvern
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hey can i just get

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any dueling sword and like improve it to max

vestal widget
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voc is also just really good in general when you're learning, you get a free do-over of a mistake

atomic wyvern
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or do i have to get lucky with the armory guy

vestal widget
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you need mastery to improve it to max

atomic wyvern
vestal widget
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the armour guy sells you weapons based on your current level

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so weps you buy now start with low stats

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later will start with higher stats

sullen jackal
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you tbh want 60% mobility but you can just stab people with a good enough sword to get mastery while checking brunt

atomic wyvern
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my scion is missing the shirt

vestal widget
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but if you wanna use a duelling sword

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don't ppl dump cleave dmg

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I guess it might affect stuff at low level

atomic wyvern
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theres a pretty good one in brunt rn

vestal widget
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when you have like a total of 10 stats

atomic wyvern
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like 70 everything then some

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ill just blue it and get lucky (hopefully)

vestal widget
sullen jackal
vestal widget
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that's in high diff, not possible in malice but you don't need that high uptime in malice either

sullen jackal
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if their toughness ever breaks for any reason, just voice of command and it's back to overfull lol

vestal widget
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i guess if you have a shock trooper gauntlet in malice maybe

atomic wyvern
vestal widget
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you can do better; the way ppl do it is by getting a lot of dockets

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and then spamming brutn's armoury

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for greys

sullen jackal
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plus you likely have other toughness restoring stuff so they're basically literally invincible(or close to it) as long as you just... keep killing stuff. because if they're at full toughness, they will never take health damage from melee

sullen jackal
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(except crushers I guess)

atomic wyvern
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im looking forwards to getting it

vestal widget
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until they get a 80/80/80/80/60 with the dump stat in the thing they don't want

atomic wyvern
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bro i just

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left the armory and dukane just went really disappointedly "i see"

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am i about to get executed

sullen jackal
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oh yeah also quick veteran tip: the +40% weakspot damage in the left tree is like basically a must have for almost every build, you want it eventually

vestal widget
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yellow toughness doesn't let crusher damage bleed through

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or poxburster

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or sniper

sullen jackal
sullen jackal
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did you know that voice of command makes ogryns really happy because they can trivially keep orange toughness with their chained hit toughness blessing c:

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the first ability on the other hand tends to be more... offensive because it lets you basically trivialize encounters that are just THIRTY FUCKING GUNNERS

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cause you can just mow them down while the suppression immunity and suppression you're dealing out basically renders them a nonthreat lol

atomic wyvern
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hey do i

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bother using the dueling swords special mvoe thingy

vestal widget
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yeah

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it staggers stuff

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so ragers

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crushers and maulers doing overheads

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if you get a facestab it staggers mutants

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iirc

atomic wyvern
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oh shit yeah

sullen jackal
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also i think basically everything can be canceled into it so it's a good finishing move

atomic wyvern
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gonna need that then

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i fucking HATE ragers

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😠

meager kiln
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all my homies hate ragers

vestal widget
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ds4 is very safe vs ragers since you have good dodges and the special

sullen jackal
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so you can heavy stab and then immediately special stab for a quick doublepoke

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also yeah i recall it has like ludicrous dodge range for some reason Thonk

vestal widget
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does the video mention the movetech

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for ds4

sullen jackal
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(it's literally called the ninjafencer in the code.)

atomic wyvern
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i dunno

sullen jackal
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(also the pose for it is badass and you swing it onehanded while your other hand is behind the back)

atomic wyvern
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peak

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thats why i need that fancy black armor

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so i can be a lucifer black or something

sullen jackal
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i think the DS4 has the fancier moves too where everything is a swipe of some sort, instead of more conventional sweeps and pokes

vestal widget
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you can get extra movespeed by doing light slashes and sliding right after

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(knives do something similar but with heavies)

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it's how knife and ds4 players zoom around

sullen jackal
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yeah some weapons have like... really wonky movement speed boosts and penalties

vestal widget
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although they also get good base movespeed

sullen jackal
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light weapons tend to have very fast movement, like 1.5 times normal speed or more, during the start of an attack

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and then slow down like other weapons after the hit

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that's why they tend to have 'floaty' movement where you can yeet to the side to dodge a crusher attack while stabbing or the like

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(same with the psyker force greatsword lol)

atomic wyvern
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awesomesauce

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alr i've got

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1/2 of my build weapons

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recon i do a 4 difficulty for the memes?

sullen jackal
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i would not recommend 4+ until you are, at the very least, confident that you can hold a single flank yourself of trash enemies

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and not let a single one through

atomic wyvern
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thats easy

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wait define trash enemies for me

orchid hemlock
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Someone who looks like Asmongold

sullen jackal
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unarmored or infected enemies, sometimes the naked bois with flak helmets

atomic wyvern
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easy then

sullen jackal
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also, preferably able to handle a few ragers thrown in as well(armored ragers and maulers are optional)

atomic wyvern
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i find the flak guys easier to parry sometimes

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yeah i'v egot the dueling sword now should be easy

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you were right about that staggering stuff

sullen jackal
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you also generally want to be able to handle a flank of 'trash' ranged enemies, basically any number of ranged enemies that cannot be tagged along with like maybe 3 gunners

crisp oak
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also a solo crusher

tall torrent
#

Dreg ragers used to be a lot faster, now they’re similar speed

orchid hemlock
atomic wyvern
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damn ti can

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stagger the big crusher guyhs upon further inspecftion

crisp oak
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but keep in mind difficulty 4 quickplay will have some..... fun teammates

atomic wyvern
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go into detail

orchid hemlock
crisp oak
tall torrent
#

Quick play in general has “gacha gambling tier” teammates

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Across all difficulties

atomic wyvern
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i mean i find it

sullen jackal
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you should basically have no trouble dealing with crushers or even maulers with any weapon that has a stab attack tbh

atomic wyvern
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tons of shtiters level 1 and 2 (duh)

crisp oak
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i don't think I've ever seen someone melee a poxburster out of heresy

atomic wyvern
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mid-tier players on 3

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everyone else on 5

orchid hemlock
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How about just learning to solo the entire game chadgryn

atomic wyvern
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yeah now i mcurious about quickplay 4

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fuck it we ball

tall torrent
sullen jackal
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honestly i find quickplay 4 tends to be worse than 5 for some reason >.>

atomic wyvern
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hey in yalls opinion rq

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
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if someone dumbass teammate wanders off into fucking narnia after being told not to and gets dogged

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do i leave him to die

crisp oak
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yes

orchid hemlock
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I know what will fix quickplay

sullen jackal
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ya

atomic wyvern
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okay thats what i've been doing so

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good thing i've been going right somewhere lmfao

sullen jackal
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laugh at them say absolutely fucking nothing because they might just be new and you don't want to tilt them

tall torrent
orchid hemlock
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You can't get out of sedition until you hit over 50k in damage in one game

crisp oak
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I assume in narnia means too far away

crisp oak
sullen jackal
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at some point, the only thing that can save them is ogryn throwing a mini nuke at them to clear the room, the next room, and basically any breathing enemy within the game :v

oak gorge
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guys how do I reload my gun?
cards on the table, I may have speedrun basic training

orchid hemlock
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Trap the league players

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Don't let them climb

oak gorge
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thankyou sah

sullen jackal
atomic wyvern
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depends on the scenario lmao

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i prefer "random bullshit go"

oak gorge
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too late i'm currently using movement tech to dive all over the place like in call of duty

sullen jackal
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although seriously did i mention how important holding a flank is

crisp oak
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imagine if auric had sedition, vent purge sedition

sullen jackal
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because I have gotten several teammates in a row on damnation that could not do that

atomic wyvern
crisp oak
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yeah it would be funny

atomic wyvern
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omg i just had a really funny mod idoea

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idea

crisp oak
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montrosities vent purge sedition

atomic wyvern
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a mod that replaces every boss with horus

sullen jackal
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and do you know how hard it is to chew through the endless gunners, ranged enemies, and specialists while also having to deal with trash infected that gets through the veteran getting downed trying to kill 3 of them?

inland orchid
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So blood rage vision hmmgryn

atomic wyvern
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actually since we're on the subject

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why not ALL enemies be horus

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lmao

sullen jackal
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literally all you have to do is move left and right, spamming push block to keep them away

atomic wyvern
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like that'd be a lot of tiny horuses tho

inland orchid
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Why not all npcs be Horus

tall torrent
sullen jackal
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that's it, that's the game, you won darktide except for anything not trash

inland orchid
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Swagger Horus, hadron Horus

orchid hemlock
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Fab is shit posting

atomic wyvern
atomic wyvern
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pre-doodoo knife horus

heavy rover
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What about alpharius?

atomic wyvern
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plot twist

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all horuses are alphariuses

atomic wyvern
inland orchid
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Alpharius could be ANY one of us

sullen jackal
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i want to just take newbies, stuff them full of gear good at horde clearing, and just have them yeet themselves into the ONE. SINGLE. LANE. trash enemies come from. to never let a single one through while i can deal with everything else

atomic wyvern
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it'd be funny if they added traded

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trading

pastel pumice
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would NOT be funny

atomic wyvern
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would

oak gorge
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ogryns trading all their weapons and armour for a rock

orchid hemlock
sullen jackal
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please god i don't care that veteran is good at ranged, just have a goddamn melee weapon with horizontal or even diagonal attacks that can just keep infested/unarmored enemies away, forever

atomic wyvern
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the uhh

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dueling sword and chainsword

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and the powersword if its that time of year

oak gorge
tall torrent
#

We do not live in a world where chainsword is good on veteran unfortunately

sullen jackal
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also heck even the knife can do it

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(not well, but it can do it)

orchid hemlock
crisp oak
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so what do you think should be my next mastery set, thunderhammer heavy las, or cleaver twin link stubber

sullen jackal
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honestly i think every weapon can do it because every weapon has a goddamn push attack

atomic wyvern
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Ogryn chainsword when

tall torrent
#

Chainsword could be good if it had like twice the rev heavy attack damage, twice the single target damage without rev attack and twice the stagger so it could break rager combo

atomic wyvern
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would be cool if an ogryn could ahve like

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a space marine weapon

atomic wyvern
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one of the smaller duty ones ofc

orchid hemlock
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Fatshark add this emoji

crisp oak
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we already have one, its called the frag grenade

sullen jackal
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the frag grenade is supposed to be broken however.

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
oak gorge
#

finally giving a heavy bolter to the ogryn class only for them to be too stupid to use it so it fills the melee slot

atomic wyvern
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i really doubt thgey'd manage to

pastel pumice
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Waiting for my hellgun

atomic wyvern
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@fatshark take notes

crisp oak
sullen jackal
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a hellgun would would if the trigger mechanism is literally just like... the ogryn pulling a lever on the side of it to spew out hot flaming death

tall torrent
crisp oak
#

the omnissiah can redeem

pastel pumice
#

I wish

tall torrent
#

Those hellguns literally have chaos undivided logo on them

crisp oak
#

kark

atomic wyvern
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ngl since we're on the subject of stupidly op guns

sullen jackal
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unbraced is a constant stream, while holding right click to brace it charges up a giant glob that is launched with left click, splattering on impact

atomic wyvern
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i would love one of those lasmachineguns that have the two uhh

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cables going into it

meager kiln
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almost got the on overwatch penance but got hit by a dog last second

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
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to be fair we might get some space marine level weapons if everyones theory about the great unclean one is true

atomic wyvern
sullen jackal
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i have no clue how canon this is i just want ogryn to have basically a lava gun that shoots a giant splattery ball of flaming goo

pastel pumice
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if you want help with the penance

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just lmk

atomic wyvern
#

what

tall torrent
#

Melta and longlas are coming to the game eventually

pastel pumice
#

he wants on overwatch

tall torrent
#

Probably next year?

atomic wyvern
crisp oak
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not sure how the longlas is gonna work

atomic wyvern
vestal widget
pastel pumice
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No thanks I'll take a hot-shot instead

oak gorge
#

i think they should actually remove some weapons because violence is bad 💔

atomic wyvern
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maybe like the half life 2 snipers or the enemy snipers where you just aim with the "totally not about to snipe you" laser

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that is the equivalent of the bat beacon or whatever its called

oak gorge
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make it so we can resolve our differences through interpretive dance

atomic wyvern
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kill him, thanks

oak gorge
crisp oak
atomic wyvern
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signle shot

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or like the bolter pre-buff(?)

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dunno if it got nerfbuffed or

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buffnerfed

pastel pumice
#

is that

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is that a marksman rifle

tall torrent
#

Shock maul - released (secrets of the machine god)
Relic blade - released (grim protocol)
Force greatsword - released (grim protocol)
Longlas - TBA
Melta - TBA
2-handed chainaxe - TBA

atomic wyvern
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"2-handed chainaxe"

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zealots are gonna have a fucking field day with that one

pastel pumice
#

Why another chainaxe

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
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duh

atomic wyvern
pastel pumice
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I want a XXXXXL shovel

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Just for vets

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
pastel pumice
#

boltgun

atomic wyvern
#

oh yeah

sullen jackal
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ok so so so

atomic wyvern
#

but to be fair its the uhh

sullen jackal
#

chainaxe is lame

#

what about

atomic wyvern
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adeptus sororitas boltgun tho

sullen jackal
#

two chainaxes

heavy rover
atomic wyvern
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its liek 9mm to a .45

sullen jackal
#

one for each hand

tall torrent
# atomic wyvern That being

Plasma gun
Krak grenade
Thunder hammer
Flamer, even
Maybe the 2 bolt weapons
Pretty much every warp-based attack by psyker
Ogryn as a whole

crisp oak
atomic wyvern
sullen jackal
#

also yeah did you know psyker has like the strongest impact in the game AFAIK. it's... their force push certain weapons have

pastel pumice
#

do you think the night lords would be anxious when they see 4 crackheads tear through a whole planet's worth of chaos forces

sullen jackal
#

they can literally send bulwarks flying

atomic wyvern
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ogryns ARE sub-space marine

crisp oak
#

the deathwatch approves this message

sullen jackal
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psykers in the game can telekinetically fling an adult ogryn like they were weightless

atomic wyvern
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i mean knowing warhammer scaling and

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
#

custodes killing 2 of them with a fucking pebble

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arbites what now

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rejog my memory thats

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ringing a very faint bell

tall torrent
crisp oak
#

judge dredd ripoffs

atomic wyvern
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the ogryns are arbites?

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got me confused

tall torrent
#

No

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Arbites are non-local enforcers

crisp oak
tall torrent
#

Better equipped

crisp oak
#

they're judges

#

the shotguns are also arbites weapons no?

pastel pumice
#

would be so hot if the helmet covered their entire face

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i love women in armor

tall torrent
#

Shotguns are a bit more ubiquitous between arbites and regular enforcers

atomic wyvern
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do you think their uhh

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fancy shotguns could pen space marinse

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like with the slugs

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
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hmm

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depends

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are we going tabletop accurate or lore accurate

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or better yet, darktide accurate

pastel pumice
#

nothing fancy about those shotguns if the shells/ammo themselves aren't special

tall torrent
#

Darktide is canon

atomic wyvern
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hey you neverf know

tall torrent
#

(Everything that happens in Darktide is therefore canon)

pastel pumice
#

there's an ogryn named Pickem and he uses a pickaxes

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canon

atomic wyvern
#

like in all seriousness for a minute

tall torrent
#

There’s some planet northwest of the sol system where an inquisitorial warband has more confirmed banishments of beasts of nurgle than the entire grey knights chapter

atomic wyvern
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how the actual friggle fraggle are no players getting like

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infected and executed by inhaling the gas

atomic wyvern
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the inquisition for you

tall torrent
pastel pumice
#

Speaking of which

atomic wyvern
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me when im too strong to breathe so therefore i am not infected by the nurgle gas

pastel pumice
#

Rogue Trader is on sale

crisp oak
atomic wyvern
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im curious now

tall torrent
pastel pumice
#

plot armor

open urchin
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what are the preferred blessings for the double barrel shotgun using weapon specialist?

tall torrent
#

The cutthroat personality for veteran canonically participated in cadia’s defense during the 13th black crusade

crisp oak
tropic notch
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Please add dual wield weapons

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Dual mercy killer knife

crisp oak
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the zealot is too indoctrinated into the imperial cult to get sick, no idea on the vet, ogryn built different, and psyker has some resistance to the warp cuz psyker

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on the spiritual end

atomic wyvern
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Hey would yall recon like

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if the canon veteran was space marine-ified

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they could beat a space marine in a one on one

tall torrent
crisp oak
#

dt veterans are actually just scouts

atomic wyvern
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lmao

tall torrent
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U throw the average space marine into a 1v1 melee with a plague ogryn and he’s prob getting ripped into pieces

atomic wyvern
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yall give me a good chuckle somehow

tall torrent
#

DT veteran kills one in 20s melee only without getting hit

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It’s not comparable

atomic wyvern
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just for clarification

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
#

By the emperor*

tall torrent
#

In a melee only 1v1 against a plague ogryn

sullen jackal
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female uhhhhh whatever the one that doesn't care voice is the best i love it

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very funny callouts

crisp oak
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my favorite is still the savants large associate

sullen jackal
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also apparently went to jail because they sold things

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they didn't desert. they. uh. sold gear they weren't supposed to

atomic wyvern
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yeah apparently they like

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broke into the armory and killed a guard

tropic notch
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Yeah our rejects are op

atomic wyvern
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literally me 😔

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i mean be real

tropic notch
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Like elite scions

crisp oak
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fanatic zealot got into space crack

atomic wyvern
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you name a group of people "rejects", send them in 4 man squads and expect them to die immediately

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you're literally brewing main characters

sullen jackal
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also you put them with the serious male professional veteran and hilarity ensues

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as she literally tries to piss off the professional in every. single. way. possible.

crisp oak
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yup

sullen jackal
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(she's also funny with the crazy male psyker voice that talks about their beloved because they're like the one person who takes their beloved as true basically)

atomic wyvern
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looking forwards to it though

crisp oak
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professional doesn't mind though

atomic wyvern
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yall heard t he dialogue line where she asks the zealot why he's following her

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lmfao

atomic wyvern
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oh

crisp oak
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and male judge zealot

atomic wyvern
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even better lol

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honestly i swear like

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half of darktides playerbase stays for the hilarious fucking dialogue

sullen jackal
#

also i vaguely recall the reason for being a loose cannon is because she like... saw eldar or something, basically, and decided "you know what, fuck this, that armor started screaming 'help me' i'm done"

crisp oak
atomic wyvern
crisp oak
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for more honest fighting

atomic wyvern
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she avoided dying in her pilot epiosode

crisp oak
#

nah dreamer psyker is the main character

atomic wyvern
#

the schizophrenic?

crisp oak
#

the one talking to a fragment of the emperor

atomic wyvern
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the schizophrenic.

crisp oak
#

or tzeentch

atomic wyvern
#

speaking of tzeentch

atomic wyvern
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i heard some cultist yell like

pastel pumice
#

I luhh the professional

tall torrent
#

I wasn't joking abt 20s either

sullen jackal
#

"Anyway, back when you were in the guard~"

atomic wyvern
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"fear our master of trickery" or something

#

i butchered that sentence

pastel pumice
#

Do I try out the rashad

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Been using dueling sword

tall torrent
#

Yes

pastel pumice
#

Got a build for it?

tall torrent
#

Talent or item

pastel pumice
#

Both if you'd like

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I want a kickstart/start on good first impression

tall torrent
#

80 in everything besides mobility
Carapace + elite
Brutal momentum
Headtaker

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As for talents it depends on what your gun is

pastel pumice
#

I'm flexible

tall torrent
#

But Rashad needs heavy investment into bottom right

pastel pumice
#

Alright, what can't Rashad do?

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Can try and compensate via gun

vestal widget
#

not much, it's very strong

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it doesn't let you move as fast as a knife I guess

crisp oak
pastel pumice
#

I've never used the knife

tall torrent
#

Does that count

pastel pumice
#

Lmaooo

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That counts

#

Then,

#

what do you recommend?

atomic wyvern
#

i wish

crisp oak
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I then showed him rock

atomic wyvern
#

cadia looks like a fucking space terrarium lmfao

crisp oak
#

never seen a cut-throat veteran again

atomic wyvern
#

you got put on a universal restraining order

tall torrent
tame lodge
pastel pumice
#

Hmm

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Both

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But to make it easier

#

Havoc

tall torrent
#

This is what I use for havoc

pastel pumice
#

Let me save that

sullen jackal
#

lmao loose cannon keeps talking to male veteran like "SO. BACK WHEN YOU WERE IN THE GUARD"

crisp oak
#

has there ever been a "canon" reason why the professional is in jail

pastel pumice
#

What do you use for that template @tall torrent

crisp oak
#

loose cannone smuggling, fanatics drug use

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ogryns being ogryns (poor slabs)

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psykers existing as psykers

unreal nova
#

So I finished reading everything and, uhhh, I think you guys are too late about having Slaaneshi cultist here though.

tall torrent
sleek garden
#

hopped on darktide for one game got accepted to a havoc 40 and cleared it with a solid team

pastel pumice
#

Lpistol?

sleek garden
#

rank 40 win hurray

pastel pumice
#

Damnn

#

Never woulda thunk

unreal nova
tall torrent
#

Yellow is optional pathing alternative

pastel pumice
#

Rightt

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Thanks a bunch lol, it kinda is easier to read

tall torrent
#

Green is float point (29/30)

pastel pumice
#

My goat

tall torrent
#

If u play laspistol, take shock trooper, and take born leader pathing instead of KTHD

#

If u play plasma, I’d recommend CQKZ

pastel pumice
#

Yeah never touched Laspistol after 2 missions of using it

tall torrent
#

Survivalist vs fire team is team dependent
If you already have another survivalist veteran in your team, go fire team
It boosts your grenades’ AoE and give ur team a bit more damage
Better than taking the same aura (which doesn’t stack)

#

Starting path is kind of preference but I think for havoc specifically, top right is the better route

sleek garden
crisp oak
#

are you running fauto mod for the laspistol?

tall torrent
#

One Motion allows u to throw frags faster
O4B allows you to recover toughness from every kill (matters vs shooters)
5% move speed is better than 1 stamina

pastel pumice
#

Oh shit

crisp oak
#

or just tapping for heads

pastel pumice
#

I never thought about that

#

No Surv stack? sad

tall torrent
#

DT semi auto weapons don’t shoot very fast

sleek garden
#

how much toughness does out for blood give on a shooter kill

pastel pumice
#

Oh is that mod actually useful?

#

What was it

#

Make semi auto, auto?

tall torrent
sleek garden
#

i take exhilarating takedown at the moment

#

i see

tall torrent
#

Full auto is nice for QoL

pastel pumice
#

Another one added to my folder

tall torrent
#

It’s just QoL because u tend to lose control (shoot more than u need) with it

orchid hemlock
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Fire team is more point friendly because u don't need to waste another point for demo team or VOC

tall torrent
#

For base game tho, even though the havoc build works well

#

I think u can have more variety

sleek garden
#

i think skullcrusher on shovel was not the play for havoc

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i wasnt hitting enough enemies hard enough for hammerblow to matter

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ill make a new shovel

orchid hemlock
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It's also closer to Agile engagement, which is one of the best nodes on the tree

paper trellis
tall torrent
#

It’s a lot more flexible with guns
Outside of plasma / boltgun / helbore it should meet most guns’ talent needs

atomic wyvern
#

hey do i just keep rolling brunts armroy till i get that 80/80/60 stat gun stuff

#

or does it go up as i upgrade

atomic wyvern
#

recon gun rn

#

Mk XII

tall torrent
#

Preferably get a 60 collateral one but it doesn’t really matter

#

Recon has 3 stats that don’t matter that much

atomic wyvern
#

wait just a bit of clarification rq

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do i just reroll brunts armory till i get desired weapon stats

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or do i have to upgrade and pray

tall torrent
#

That’s for after reaching lv30 usually

pastel pumice
#

My goat

#

I'll save that too

tall torrent
#

Since if you’re just starting on the game you prob don’t have a lot of resources to spend

atomic wyvern
#

i do

#

300k, 15k plasteel, 5k diamantine

tall torrent
#

That’s not a lot

atomic wyvern
#

just a new char since i mgetting bnack into the game

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its decent

tall torrent
#

That’s like maybe 2 godroll weapons

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2~3

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Since consecration and empowerment also cost resources

pastel pumice
#

does he know we spend 2 million dockets for just 3 godrolls

tall torrent
#

outside of plasma gun, every weapon is easy to godroll

pastel pumice
#

Don't even mention the plasma

#

It was such a pain

unreal nova
#

I usually get one within 200k dockets though, then suffer upgrade costs.

tall torrent
#

rolling for a perfect plasma is best described as

pastel pumice
#

So real

unreal nova
#

Isn't it just because the Plasma wants a very specific mess?

atomic wyvern
#

a godroll is just

tall torrent
#

yea

pastel pumice
#

Me after finally getting that godroll plasma

atomic wyvern
#

the shit you buy from brunts right?

#

jusjt to double ceck

#

check

pastel pumice
#

no

#

you can get lucky from emperors gift

#

It's just a term

tall torrent
atomic wyvern
#

yeah

#

do i get it from brunts then or

pastel pumice
#

Yes

#

safer and cheaper

atomic wyvern
#

alr tahts all i needed to know, thx

pastel pumice
#

dont buy from melk

tall torrent
#

u can get from brunt, emperor's gift and melk

atomic wyvern
pastel pumice
#

unless you love gacha games

tall torrent
#

but best chances are brunt and emperor's gift

atomic wyvern
tall torrent
pastel pumice
#

Good luck

atomic wyvern
#

anyway i'll see yall in

#

200k ordo dockets

tall torrent
#

Then every weapon is easy to roll

vital wren
#

Any tips for breaking into Auric?

pastel pumice
#

Never liked the plasma

#

Till I used it more

vital wren
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"Don't suck lmao"

atomic wyvern
#

oh shit

#

this is decent

tall torrent
# vital wren Any tips for breaking into Auric?

Steps of getting good in darktide :

  • learn to block in sedition and uprising
  • learn to dodge in malice (dodge melee attacks, avoid getting disabled by trapper / push the poxburster / push or dodge pox hound)
  • learn how to tag enemies in heresy (outline for easy headshots, make teammates aware of specialists)
  • learn situational awareness in damnation (teammate is disabled, help them)
  • in auric you learn how to fight every enemy in the game by yourself as well as the priority list (because there's always a special and elite, know which one to kill first)
  • in havoc you need to perfect everything you’ve learnt and treat every encounter against every enemy with respect because things can snowball out of control extremely fast
atomic wyvern
#

5% pen into mobility my dump stat

#

but im happy with it

atomic wyvern
#

but i've never played auric

#

we ball?

tall torrent
#

U need dockets anyway

atomic wyvern
tall torrent
#

Sure?

vital wren
#

I think I mostly need more practice/muscle memory on higher difficulties but I'm getting there. I got top Offense for the first time last night and killed like 40% of all the elites/specials in the run myself which was good for me I though.

tall torrent
#

I’m in NA east tho

pastel pumice
#

i'm down to play too

#

I got time before work

atomic wyvern
vital wren
#

I'm still at work but good hunting!

atomic wyvern
pastel pumice
#

I'm CST

tall torrent
#

14:19 afternoon

atomic wyvern
#

need to know yalls timezones so i dont

pastel pumice
#

1:19

atomic wyvern
#

fuck you over or anythin

atomic wyvern
pastel pumice
#

its okay lol

#

yes

atomic wyvern
#

🙏

#

close

pastel pumice
#

All you gotta know is that we have time for 4 ish games

atomic wyvern
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i'll do one maybe two

tall torrent
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9557185861

atomic wyvern
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my names Monochrome ingame, jsut gonan roll for a decent recon and upgrade

pastel pumice
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my ID is in my username

atomic wyvern
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wait should we

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all join vets strike

tall torrent
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I’m down to vc

atomic wyvern
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since he's put the number thingy first

pastel pumice
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strike team 2

atomic wyvern
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i dont talk but if you fancy

pastel pumice
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idm

atomic wyvern
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alr join vets team ig

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wait

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@tall torrent

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i need to rejoin, chats cooked

bitter turtle
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O

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You guys auric

tall torrent
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No

pastel pumice
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no reg damn

bitter turtle
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Was gonna offer to hist

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Host

pastel pumice
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you wanna join

tall torrent
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Reg damnation

bitter turtle
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Ah

pastel pumice
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i wanna see this stalker of a vet that you are in action

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never personally seen a good infiltrator

bitter turtle
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Who me

pastel pumice
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yeah

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You you you

bitter turtle
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I wasn't joining but StellaSip

pastel pumice
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yeah that's why im offering

bitter turtle
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Oh