Bc it goes with the french accent
#veteran-class
copper verge
swift river
Can even record background mic or youtube while playin. I like this new Steam feature
cyan verge
if I am listening to music or watching youtube it picks all that up so it's cool sometimes but other times it's like uh well hmm
cyan verge
flapjacks
swift river
if I am listening to music or watching youtube it picks all that up so it's cool...
Well you can set it either or. Just game or system sounds
cyan verge
I have it all muted when I play darktide at least anyway since this game is nothing but sound cues
cyan verge
idk who was responsible or why but someone was like "I came here to add sound cues to EVERYTHING" so like every single event in this game goes 'click' 'hiss' 'whirr' or 'bzoot' or something
tall torrent
then perks flakiak?
Flak + elite/maniac/unyielding
swift river
It's a pretty good skin! You can get it on its own
tall torrent
copper verge
Maybe if a plasma or recon las, or maybe better psword skin comes out i might yoink
tall torrent
Iron sight change
tall torrent
You get a square “ring” to vaguely have an idea of where your shots are going at close range
Instead of the classic “—.—” view lmao
cyan verge
I just wish they knew like you need to have a rear sight as well as a front sight...
serene bough
Flak + elite/maniac/unyielding
thnx boss
cyan verge
I mean yes you can just look down the rail, but, ideally you have a matching tritium rear sight so you can like line it up properly
placid portal
personally MK4 Bor has better irons imo 
copper verge
Im surprised in the 41st millenium after humans went thru DAoT optics were never mass produced for every single gun 😭
swift river
The Mk4 helbore has my favorite sights in the game
placid portal
Im surprised in the 41st millenium after humans went thru DAoT optics were never...
just for kriegers
swift river
But a pisspoor bayonet
placid portal
they decided that empra should decide when they hit
tall torrent
Im surprised in the 41st millenium after humans went thru DAoT optics were never...
They’re mass produced
We just somehow don’t get them
cyan verge
it is really annoying ngl that they just scrapped the customization system
placid portal
You could tell from kantrael las
swift river
For snipers, marksmen, and Space Marines maybe 😄
swift river
But not us penal legions
tall torrent
and it's been 2 years so I guess they're never implementing it
Because games workshop said no
It was 90% complete and then got scrapped
smoky meteor
how many bullets does the laspistol consume per shot?
swift river
Because games workshop said no
"We don't want this to be Call of Duty" or so they said
oblique totem
Everyone loves 40k.
Everyone hates GW
tall torrent
how many bullets does the laspistol consume per shot?
MG Mk II uses 2/shot
Mk X uses 3/shot
tall torrent
"We don't want this to be Call of Duty" or so they said
Tbh most weapons’ sights I’m ok with
I only don’t like the iron sights on helbore lasguns and vigilant autoguns
queen fox
Because games workshop said no
i still think the mastery skin for all weapons should have a gothic arch laser dot sight
like the kantraels
tall torrent
I like the distinct weapon identity brought from sights
I just don’t like bad sights
queen fox
the gothic arch sight is just so 40k tho
swift river
There's a detail in Space Marine 2 that I love...
Scoped weapons have latin written on the lenses 😄
short fern
Everyone loves 40k.
Everyone hates GW
You basically have to be rich to buy figurines these days
oblique totem
Tabletop sim is where it's at if you want to play these days
short fern
Ooohhh I didn’t think of warhammer being on there. Interesting
placid portal
you can check the worshop for the models iirc
pseudo fiber
las pistol
just use it on standard WS build?
tall torrent
las pistol
just use it on standard WS build?
It works with all 3 keystones
pseudo fiber
this'll work fine then?
tall torrent
this'll work fine then?
If u want to forego melee talents, sure?
I don’t recommend marksman focus subnodes beyond camouflage
oblique totem
Ooohhh I didn’t think of warhammer being on there. Interesting
Workshop mods.
stiff vector
which of the recon lasguns are the best?
tall torrent
which of the recon lasguns are the best?
All 3 are ok, they do different things
XIV has best TTK vs specialists with highest damage per shot, but worst firing uptime
VIc balances firerate & damage
XII fires the fastest (which synergizes with Onslaught talent) but has the least damage, worst reload speed & draw speed
stiff vector
hmm noted. i wanted to know cuz i need to clear an auric melstrom to do the new update missions. and i went further with a XII than i did with a XIV. even though before i felt the XIV was better (though iw as doing it on difficulty 4 before instead of 5)
remote sonnet
It really depends on your build and blessing applied.
hidden tree
SOMEONE TELL ME THE BEST BLESSINGS FOR THIS THING PLEASE
orchid hemlock
wait there is an event?
spring rose
Slaughterer is good for crusher one tap potential
Brutal momentum for better horde clear
Take ur pick
hidden tree
OKIE DOKIE
spring rose
If you wanna go for a crusher one tap tho don't forget to get a carapace perk on ur sword
I'd say swap out maniac for it if you're going for it
tall torrent
SOMEONE TELL ME THE BEST BLESSINGS FOR THIS THING PLEASE
Power cycler + brutal momentum/sunder
hidden tree
Power cycler + brutal momentum/sunder
WHY NOT SLAUGHTERER FOR HORDES?
formal ocean
this'll work fine then?
Picking up onslaught and the suppression nodes would benefit lasgun more I think.
cobalt crest
Is this just broken
tall torrent
WHY NOT SLAUGHTERER FOR HORDES?
Brutal momentum kills hordes faster
uncut pebble
WHY NOT SLAUGHTERER FOR HORDES?
Slaughterer is only useful for killing elites, and psword does that just fine without it.
Running pc + bm together lets you 2shot crushers and maulers.
PA + 1 light is death for literally anything that isn't a boss.
loud belfry
Is this just broken
yes
stiff vector
hows this for my recon lasgun build?
uncut pebble
hows this for my recon lasgun build?
Troll. 🫵
cobalt crest
Or do I just reinstall
loud belfry
Does the atuhor have to update it
it's on the author. he last updated on nov 20th. other commenters mention the same error
"Getting an error after getting into the morningstar: [ERROR] (hook): Trying to hook function or method that doesen't exist: [HudElementCrosshair._crosshair_position].
Also, pressing the "Cosmetics" button on the new TwoHanded Force Sword in my inventory just crashes the game to desktop."
uncut pebble
?
No iron will (generalist), no onslaught (recons require it), recons don't need a keystone.
loud belfry
Or do I just reinstall
just disable it for now and wait for it to be updated to turn it back on
stiff vector
No iron will (generalist), no onslaught (recons require it), recons don't need a...
oh. i was told onslaught wasnt as good as rending
remote sonnet
hows this for my recon lasgun build?
I think you would do better if you go with target focus
uncut pebble
oh. i was told onslaught wasnt as good as rending
Rending is nice, but onslaught is what recons absolutely require.
tall torrent
@analog yacht made the crosshair mod I think
stiff vector
better?
loud belfry
Or do I just reinstall
though actually you might be able to use the mod as long as you dont customize anything for now
tall torrent
hows this for my recon lasgun build?
This is really bad
loud belfry
<@94910894324056064> made the crosshair mod I think
this error is for the "Extended Weapon Customization" mod it seems
formal ocean
This is really bad
Maybe he's a Chad and doesn't need all the other stuff.
remote sonnet
The recon lasgun builds are mostly for single target damage, and Marksman Focus is not really it.
stiff vector
Beginner veteran build
you dont even got fully loaded or onslaught?
remote sonnet
He wants recon las build
formal ocean
Beginner veteran build
tall torrent
He wants recon las build
Yea, this is playable with recon lasgun
tall torrent
Nah
formal ocean
😂
tall torrent
Superiority complex is not necessary most of the time
uncut pebble
^
tall torrent
It only really matters for a few guns
uncut pebble
Superiority complex is only for touching up really iffy bps.
remote sonnet
Yea, this is playable with recon lasgun
Why ws instead of TF?
stiff vector
im confrused. i got sonebody telling me onslaught is key, another showing me to take rending. like idk what to do anymopre
tall torrent
Why ws instead of TF?
Recon is not a breakpoint weapon therefore WS is the default imo
hidden tree
PA + 1 light is death for literally anything that isn't a boss.
PA?
tall torrent
On a weapon that cares about 1 shot breakpoints and needs specific talents for breakpoints (like plasma gun) focus target is the way to go
uncut pebble
im confrused. i got sonebody telling me onslaught is key, another showing me to ...
Path made a more melee focused build, which means you are using recons as your auxiliary weapon. I made one that intends to mainly use recons.
remote sonnet
I find TS is good for single targeting.
tall torrent
im confrused. i got sonebody telling me onslaught is key, another showing me to ...
Onslaught can be fun but is not really worth it because you should usually bring anti-armor melee weapons
formal ocean
It only really matters for a few guns
It also applies to melee though, no?
tall torrent
It also applies to melee though, no?
Yea, it doesn’t really matter for melee weapons’ breakpoints either
remote sonnet
And new players don't swap often enough to use WS imo (this used to be a big assumption until I see some pun malice plays)
tall torrent
You get the same result with fire team + 10% melee damage node on top right
Except you also get agile engagement which is way better
tawdry jackal
i feel like i got bad at darktide since i took a break to play zomboid and then helldivers
uncut pebble
Onslaught can be fun but is not really worth it because you should usually bring...
For mainly ranged recon builds, though? You take onslaught.
tawdry jackal
im hitting fucking q randomly for some reason to spot shit and swapping my guns
the muscle memory is all fucked up
tall torrent
For mainly ranged recon builds, though? You take onslaught.
I don’t think it’s worth tbh
uncut pebble
Oh absolutely not, the pathing is awful for it.
tawdry jackal
could use a crew later in the week to help me reacclimate to damnations and then auric maelstrom damnations
uncut pebble
And mainly using your recon is a bad idea.
tall torrent
If I had to play a mainly ranged recon build I’d drop WS pathing and take a duelling sword or smth
uncut pebble
Lmao.
tall torrent
In which case I still wouldn’t take onslaught
uncut pebble
That's valid but ew vet ds.
uncut pebble
I agree.
stiff vector
I would use this if you want recon with exe stance.
ok how abhout this
tall torrent
ok how abhout this
Why do u need Tac reload
stiff vector
Why do u need Tac reload
idk i just seem to have it all the time. i think i used it mandatory when iwas on my bolter fix
uncut pebble
ok how abhout this
Drop enhanced target priority and path through the middle at the top because the nodes on the right do not help you much.
You can also drop superiority complex.
remote sonnet
Onslaught is only great on a few enemies imo. I played a few games with recon las earlier and outside of big armoured targets, it is so meh.
stiff vector
You can also drop superiority complex.
no
tall torrent
idk i just seem to have it all the time. i think i used it mandatory when iwas o...
It’s good for Boltgun & combat shotguns
And that’s about it
uncut pebble
This will save you 3 points to take focus target + redirect fire or pick up some melee talents.
stiff vector
Then don't ask for advice if you're not gonna listen.
im listening to your advice i just choose to have that one
remote sonnet
Revolver, too
uncut pebble
"I'm listening, but I'm not listening."
stiff vector
my guy i just redid my entire build listening to you
remote sonnet
I run zealot with revolver and can't stand the reload.
wraith perch
is OK guys, is OK to ask for a build and then tailor it for your playstyle once you have been informed
You are still listening and learning ... I think, right?
tall torrent
my guy i just redid my entire build listening to you
Give me a moment I’ll just make 1 for u
sleek garden
im struggling in auric since the update
if im not playing veteran nobody kills the specialists
stiff vector
current build. awaiting veteransteamguide's advice
sleek garden
i want to use the new sword for the psyker but i can only brain burst so many before the horde descends
wraith perch
if im not playing veteran nobody kills the specialists
could be that everybody is focused on leveling greatswords
sleek garden
im watching them and this guy hasnt used a single heavy with the power greatsword
remote sonnet
Nah, gunners and reapers are seriously strong now
remote sonnet
No sword can't kill those guys from the other size of the room.
stiff vector
Nah, gunners and reapers are seriously strong now
yeah ive died just moving in front of one trying to aim at it and it guns me down
sleek garden
its so bad im spending more time spamming lmb with my staff to suppress
tawny timber
Nah, gunners and reapers are seriously strong now
the reaper thing is insane
like it wont even be facing you and will be blasting you
at point blank too
wraith perch
people forgot how to dash 😂
tawny timber
grim protocols removes dodging
remote sonnet
I come back to Executioner and Marksman Focus with lasgun to run auric earlier, win 3 games in a row without death.
stiff vector
ye its why im running executioner to focus down the shooters since their deadly
sleek garden
I come back to Executioner and Marksman Focus with lasgun to run auric earlier, ...
i do this literally every game it works so well
but i cant because i want to play psyker
tall torrent
current build. awaiting veteransteamguide's advice
Last point into whatever u want
remote sonnet
Then tried last week meta and I got hard time
sleek garden
im support from battlefield
remote sonnet
We are not alone, many people struggle
stiff vector
Last point into whatever u want
aight ill ill check this out
tall torrent
aight ill ill check this out
I’d still recommend an anti-armor melee tbh
stiff vector
I’d still recommend an anti-armor melee tbh
i just run shock maul
tall torrent
i just run shock maul
In that case
For ur recon lasgun
5% crit chance + flak/maniac
Dum dum
Infernus
5% crit chance is mandatory
Infernus helps recon boss dps a LOT
It’s maybe triple? lol
stiff vector
In that case
For ur recon lasgun
5% crit chance + flak/maniac
Dum dum
Infernus
infernus really? i guess yeah with bosses but my main thing is to take out specialists. gunners, flamers, etc
also why no counter fire?
tall torrent
infernus really? i guess yeah with bosses but my main thing is to take out speci...
Then run 5% crit chance + maniac
tall torrent
also why no counter fire?
Exe stance doesn’t need subnodes
You’re better off letting it run out and using melee to keep yourself alive
Than to tunnel vision on keeping it up for as long as possible
It’s a sizeable dps boost, but it’s just a dps boost
stiff vector
fair. ill keep that in mind.
short fern
Until it ever gets nerfed I feel like voc survivability is just too hard to give up
ocean moat
do you really use puncture or lethal prox instead of surgical on boltpistol?
tall torrent
do you really use puncture or lethal prox instead of surgical on boltpistol?
Yea
Puncture + lethal prox is the best build for it
sleek garden
i swear they made suicide bomber explosions bigger
i am pushing them away and sliding backwards and they still keep hitting me
stiff vector
Then run 5% crit chance + maniac
just realised why you did all the crit maxing stuff. shock trooper make sit free ammo. ooh that genius i didnt relaise that part
tall torrent
just realised why you did all the crit maxing stuff. shock trooper make sit free...
Opening salvo + crit chance perk + crit chance talent + recon base + veteran base is 27% crit chance
Recon has a 2-crit string
That’s 42.5% crit rate from the first 20% of mag
Plus reciprocity stacks from dodging things
hidden torrent
Path, what's the best build in the game period in your opinion
tall torrent
You basically don’t run out of ammo and can spray for as long as u need
tall torrent
Path, what's the best build in the game period in your opinion
EK surge m1 psyker
That’s outside of havoc tho
Havoc needs some specific builds based on modifiers
hidden torrent
I've noticed
stiff vector
You basically don’t run out of ammo and can spray for as long as u need
genius. thanks for the advice and you too @uncut pebble . appreciate it
sleek garden
holy moly
2 ogryns with karsolas pickaxes they still go down to plain scab shooters and horde units
this is auric damnation
the struggle
i need to build this new sword better
stiff vector
also do curio buffs stack? so if i get gunner resistance and another with gunner resistance?
sleek garden
yes but it will be less effective
stiff vector
noted
austere mica
also do curio buffs stack? so if i get gunner resistance and another with gunner...
It’s not additive with itself
The math looks like 1 x .8 x .8 x .8
So it rounds out to around 50%
Instead of 60
If you take three perks
stiff vector
thanks
uncut pebble
100% x .8 (20% resist) = 80%
80% x .8 = 64%
64% x .8 = 51.2%
You get the most bang for your buck only doing 2 resists.
uncut pebble
Do as you will, they're your curios.
stiff vector
im going 2x for gunners. they shred me
remote sonnet
The struggle with gunners is real
serene bough
i rely on ghost
stiff vector
why cant we get volley guns
serene bough
so no gunner resist for me
ghost actually became such an important blessing after the various gunner buffs
always was good but now i really feel it shine
swift river
Are those numbers only for Damage Resistance or does it apply to all curio stats?
Like say Ability Cooldown
remote sonnet
I just run the suppression immunity then kill the gunners as fast as possible
austere mica
Are those numbers only for Damage Resistance or does it apply to all curio stats...
It’s for DR
Dr is calculated multiplicatively to prevent immortality
tall torrent
also do curio buffs stack? so if i get gunner resistance and another with gunner...
They do stack
Some stack multiplicatively
Some stack additively
I have this written out in my guide
Check pinned
austere mica
The only things that tend to stack additively are stacked effects, but even those vary wildly
swift river
Here's a random question...
What if...you didn't have a keystone?
quartz leaf
Where is the big power sword? Is it just heavy sword or is it a mk of power sword
cyan verge
yeah people have said this before, like "lol what if no keystone" but I think at the very least focus target or weapons specialist are good
cyan verge
Where is the big power sword? Is it just heavy sword or is it a mk of power swor...
not a veteran weapon
vague charm
What are some good perks for the las pistols?
swift river
yeah people have said this before, like "lol what if no keystone" but I think at...
No I'm being serious.
Would a build work without one?
Is it...possible
cyan verge
idk ask path but I think he said recently like "don't skip a keystone"
swift river
I want...to experiment
tall torrent
Here's a random question...
What if...you didn't have a keystone?
Works for ranged recon builds
But usually they have significant value behind them
sleek garden
dont take a keystone and grab all the grenade talents instead
swift river
I'm gonna run a game doing an experimental build... And I will let ya'll know how it goes 😄
tall torrent
idk ask path but I think he said recently like "don't skip a keystone"
Usually you don’t want to skip keystones
There are rare situations tho
frank ether
weapon spec too fun to pass anyway
ppl really be like going all the way down to trench fighter and then don't take the funny gun go brrr keystone
clever hedge
So is determined droppable for a recon las build to fit a key stone?
thin kernel
Gamers, what's considered "high" havoc, I'm worried about getting the damn 53rd chestpiece
errant carbon
So is determined droppable for a recon las build to fit a key stone?
Yes, suppression hurts a lot less with a high ROF weapon than something slow and powerful
mossy minnow
Is there a dump stat on recon lastgun for mk xii or do i want max in all of them (can i do that with the new system? returning player)
clever hedge
Mobility is your dump
mossy minnow
and i guess a follow on- how close to max can i be and still get them to max via omnissiah upgrading to 500
stuck gorge
and i guess a follow on- how close to max can i be and still get them to max via...
80 in 4 stats and 60 in the last
clever hedge
80% is stat cap
mossy minnow
well, I saw a video where someone had like...74/80 grey from the store, upgrading rarity to 500 EDIT: rarity to yellow/legendary not 500 pushed it to 80
that's what i'm getting at
clever hedge
Ya, the second stat is what it will become at 500 at the latest
Stats all upgrade as you raise power level
mossy minnow
gotcha- so should i be blowing money til i get 80/80/80/80/60 then upgrade or just in the neighborhood?
clever hedge
Rarity effects amount of blessing and perks
Depends on difficulty
If you just regrinding and get back in do what you want
Then when breaking into auric and havoc stats get way more important
stuck gorge
gotcha- so should i be blowing money til i get 80/80/80/80/60 then upgrade or ju...
get a weapon with max stats of what you said, then just slowly empower it more and more as you play the game and get currency
mossy minnow
yeah basically i'm maxed level but because i haven't played in 15 months i'm starting from 0 with blessing levels and crafting and whatnot and what i need is all changed
fossil basalt
gotcha- so should i be blowing money til i get 80/80/80/80/60 then upgrade or ju...
if you like how that weapon performs at that statblock, yeah
you can inspect weapons in your inventory and hover over the statbars to see how they actually change
mossy minnow
trying to wrap my head around it
errant carbon
Rather dump Collateral on a recon IMO. Probably fine either way
clever hedge
There are alot of vids breaking down the new system
stuck gorge
at least blessings and perks are reconfigured using ordo dockets instead of plastseel and diamantine now
much cheaper
quartz leaf
What's vet best horde clear? Just power sword with cycler?
errant carbon
And you can actually see what you're fucking getting before you start pouring resources in
clever hedge
It is complex but there are good breakdowns
clever hedge
What's vet best horde clear? Just power sword with cycler?
Shredder frags
tall torrent
What's vet best horde clear? Just power sword with cycler?
Rashad Mk III combat axe
stuck gorge
And you can actually see what you're fucking getting before you start pouring re...
and even if the hadron roll is bad its like 10k ordo dockets at the max to make it a good roll
clever hedge
R1 for life
tall torrent
What makes it good?
Kills horde faster than power sword
quartz leaf
Dang
tall torrent
By a little
remote sonnet
Any combat axe can do that to be real
fossil basalt
lots of things are better than ps source: ps hater
quartz leaf
Rashad dump stat is first target roght
stuck gorge
doesnt its push attack stagger ragers i forgot
stuck gorge
when in doubt, mobility and defenses
quartz leaf
O
tall torrent
~~lots of things are better than ps source: ps hater~~
Rashad kind of just is better
However it costs more talent points to run optimally
So u could run power sword in more builds
quartz leaf
Rashad requires talent points?
tall torrent
Rashad requires talent points?
Requires minimum 5 points into bottom right for attack speed
clever hedge
Good ol trenchfighter drill
remote sonnet
Or run shovel
quartz leaf
I want crowd clear above everything
tall torrent
Dump still mobility right
Cleave target dump for power sword
remote sonnet
Heavy sword is a little underrated for horde clear
It can tear through a lot of stuff and the heavy is serviceable vs armour.
tall torrent
Who has the revolver talent tree
Get demo team and always prepared
quartz leaf
Ty
errant carbon
Heavy sword is a little underrated for horde clear
Maybe I was too used to it on Zealot but I found it was pretty bad on Vet without Trench Fighter
And poor against Carapace no matter what you do with it
ocean moat
It can tear through a lot of stuff and the heavy is serviceable vs armour.
shreds ragers but breaks when you try to do anything with horizontal heavies' damage
clears unarmoured heads well but falls off quick
rustic kite
Infliltrate build?
cyan verge
okay damn like havoc 25-ish already is hard
crisp oak
ALRIGHT. I played a round. I might switch to Boltpistol for this build
Why are you shootin uncharged hellbore shots?
quartz leaf
Hand cannon + surgical for revolver is the way to go right
umbral scaffold
hi can someone show me the best build for a heavy bolter build?
you know, the gun that goes boom boom boom
somber axle
Guide Cat made this one before
1 point left over with red circles on the options he recommends
balmy flume
okay damn like havoc 25-ish already is hard
That is why I am stopping at a 29 I just managed to finish.
Maybe I will try pushing for 30.
So long as I get the drips, I am happy lol.
(The other two penance drips don’t specify level, so I can just join…whatever Havoc level)
idle pecan
is this a good knife?
i know you kinda need all the knife stats so is this a good split?
umbral scaffold
oh lol
somber axle
here's the page of the Boltgun from the guide pinned in this channel
balmy flume
and how is this bolter
You kinda want the lowest stat to be mobility (as in mobility should be x/60)
somber axle
for perks/blessings recommendations and info
Shattering Impact helps with a breakpoint on Crushers for one less shot iirc?
Puncture can help on some breakpoints but I forget which
I usually go Surgical/Pinning Fire on mine tbh
rose reef
Did my first havoc cleared pretty easy? but i think that's just because my team was better? maybe end game will auto give us higher level teamates?
dim saddle
snip-ovlver
somber axle
Did my first havoc cleared pretty easy? but i think that's just because my team ...
Steam guide says 1-10 ranks are equivalent to Malice difficulty, 11-20 ranks are equivalent to Heresy, 21-30 are equivalent to Damnation and the extra hard ranks begin 31+
Could be that?
rose reef
OOOOH
somber axle
I've seen a few people say difficulty begins to noticeably ramp up at around 25-ish
dim saddle
it also has a lazer lmao
balmy flume
Yea 25+ is where you can feel it starts to get a bit…unhinged.
somber axle
don't worry if you want a challenge it'll come later for sure LOL
balmy flume
Your head basically has to be on a swivel
dim saddle
if the bullet doesnt kill them i will blind them
balmy flume
And you can expect 0 downtime dialogue
(It’s why I will be cheesing the other two penances by joining other people’s comparatively lower havocs)
rose reef
if the bullet doesnt kill them i will blind them
im gonna report you to hadron
rose reef
don't worry if you want a challenge it'll come later for sure LOL
im gonna become a statistic...
vernal sundial
ideal dump stat for psword?
delicate wagon
Could be that?
some of these early 20s feels like an auric mael with the damn gas+infected dudes dropping acid shit
vernal sundial
idk why but coming back to the game, auric damnations are full of experienced really good teammates but as soon as i queue auric mael i get people who have literally just unlocked auric and are total shitters lmao
delicate wagon
probably trying to get to havoc 16
dim saddle
im gonna report you to hadron
i have many weapons of mass destruction
rose reef
i have many weapons of mass destruction
heresy?
dim saddle
its okay its all from parts from the gaurd
umbral scaffold
how is havoc mode?
tough tiger
quartz leaf
I forgot about penetration
analog yacht
<@94910894324056064> made the crosshair mod I think
Did someone mention the crosshair mod earlier? I'm only seeing the one about weapon_customization
tall torrent
Hm ok
umbral scaffold
any1 have a grenadier vet talent build handy
just copied a cursed looking one after a brief keyword search
maybe too cursed
analog yacht
I think you just take frags plus the two grenade regen talents
Then still take a real build
bronze notch
oooh, howd you see those stats
wicked epoch
whats the plasma guns dump stat?
tall torrent
whats the plasma guns dump stat?
doesn't have one
wicked epoch
i keep rolling plasma guns with fuckin 8% thermal resist
sullen jackal
look at the max thermal resist.
hollow ibex
i fucking hate how this bug is STILL not fixed
pearl mango
what do ppl prefer Agni or Munti shockmaul ?
neat stratus
i fucking hate how this bug is STILL not fixed
You know Ive always wondered, why is 80% the max?
hollow ibex
presumably they wanted to save 100% for a higher tier
neat stratus
Oh
Hope we see that higher tier
Also Ive got no more than 400 plasteel but over 5000 diamantine, Ive hit a sort of bottleneck
hollow ibex
Also Ive got no more than 400 plasteel but over 5000 diamantine, Ive hit a sort ...
dw once you reach a certain point, the bottleneck will reverse and diamantine will be the one you desperately need
cyan verge
maybe that'll be like a gear rarity they add to help push people up havoc
neat stratus
dw once you reach a certain point, the bottleneck will reverse and diamantine wi...
nahhhhh
hollow ibex
neat stratus
Ill always have 5000 more diamantine than plasteel
cyan verge
the magenta 'Infinilegendary' rarity that goes up to like 600 power and 100% rating on stats
neat stratus
the magenta 'Infinilegendary' rarity that goes up to like 600 power and 100% rat...
🔥
cyan verge
then people will go around saying like "havoc 40 is so easy lol" "havoc is easy now" "well yeah I cleared it at release and it was super hard" "I only could beat it once Infinilegendary dropped"
neat stratus
And you have to dismantle 5 infinilegandaries (0.3% drop after finishing a havoc mission) to get the materials for making ONE item of your choosing infinilegendary
vermintide style
neat stratus
hollow ibex
mate, i'd trade you some of my plasteel for diamantine if i could
neat stratus
Please
stoic thorn
Just got on overwatch on malice smh
nocturne mulch
somber adder
Not having played 2000 hours
grand perch
we probably have much leftover from the days were it was worthless
stoic thorn
Needing the party system for havoc is so ass
daring sage
do you really want to do high level havoc with randos though
that seems like a recipe for disaster
elder fiber
If you aren't queuing with people you know its still randos
austere mica
Either that or mobility
austere mica
If you run mk2 I would dump mobility because it has an actual cleave move but yeah
austere mica
Mk2 heavy 2 is a mostly horizontal swipe with decent cleave
And mk5 has the best dodges in the game out of any weapon
(But lower heavies damage than 4 and a similar style)
swift river
Why are you shootin uncharged hellbore shots?
That last shot was just poor timin on my part
grim oriole
Can anyone help me I’m struggling to figure out how to make my build good?
grand perch
best show your build and weapons you use with it
austere mica
As Vet, is suppression immunity worth having?
Depends on the weapon
magic flume
Depends on the weapon
Bolter
magic flume
Refer to path’s guide for specifics
Can also just answer it
austere mica
Has minimal supression
austere mica
Can also just answer it
Typing out math on a phone keyboard sucks
magic flume
Saying armor penetration was all I needed lol
grand perch
As Vet, is suppression immunity worth having?
If you mean determined, the objective answer is sometimes and it's heavily dependant on weapon and if you use exec stance.
In my subjective view: I never ever use it
magic flume
Got a wackass build
magic flume
If you mean determined, the objective answer is sometimes and it's heavily depen...
I see
placid portal
I say, let empra guide your shots in suppression
placid portal
Suppression shakes your accuracy around
hollow ibex
makes it very hard to hit shit
magic flume
Like when an enemy hits me a bunch?
hollow ibex
they don't need to hit you
magic flume
Yeah that's what I mean
placid portal
Which is why when you see a gunner shooting at you, it's safe to disengage and shoot back so you dont return fire under suppression
Or the classic
peak tree
Someone have a link to a good recon XII talent tree and ideal blessings etc?
placid portal
Someone have a link to a good recon XII talent tree and ideal blessings etc?
Try onslaught
peak tree
I'm new AF, lvl 20 on my first toon, I don't even know what onslaught is yet honestly.
tawny timber
I'm new AF, lvl 20 on my first toon, I don't even know what onslaught is yet hon...
best node in the game
hollow ibex
best node in the game
Pinned guide is your friend
placid portal
best node in the game
For spam guns 
peak tree
Pinned guide is your friend
is that build in the 101 page document? been scroling thorugh that.
peak tree
And no onslaught is a trap
I did gather.
hollow ibex
is that build in the 101 page document? been scroling thorugh that.
Yeah lol. Don't worry too much about it yet
tawny timber
i thought it was a man disguised as a woman
hollow ibex
Just experiment and have fun
placid portal
what does trap mean
peak tree
Just experiment and have fun
oh I will, but I like to have a jumping off point.
carmine arrow
voice of command
peak tree
Especially as it seems the XII may be a bit more build specific than my bolter.
frank basin
what does trap mean
That means it’s good on paper but reality hit you with brick
peak tree
given crit and incendiary aspect.
hollow ibex
what does trap mean
A niche node that has dubious use cases while looking very good on paper
placid portal
Spam fir guns can technically make use of it no?
frank basin
High rate of fire for onslaught good
hollow ibex
Vraks mk 5 and recon mk12 are the only guns for that node
And even then, not advisable
placid portal
But I sure as hell dont wanna burn half a mag to even kill crusha
hollow ibex
But I sure as hell dont wanna burn half a mag to even kill crusha
Exactly
You usually have better options
placid portal
Vraks mk 5 and recon mk12 are the only guns for that node
Shredda pistol 🥹
Apply debuff and engage in melee
hollow ibex
Shredda pistol 🥹
Apply debuff and engage in melee
Half your ammo gone to stagger a gunner
placid portal
Half your ammo gone to stagger a gunner <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
😭😭😭
frank basin
And recon is high dakka
The mark 12 specific
placid portal
The mark 12 specific
True
I have been doing sly marbo wargear and could say it is not easy
I dont even think he has krak grenades 
thin stone
What's a good veteran build for Havoc?
placid portal
Sly Marbo build 
thin stone
what's that
placid portal
tawny timber
best build in the game
placid portal
Shredder pistol and Mk1 Claw
thin stone
I have a build for auric maelstrom
thin stone
Shredder pistol and Mk1 Claw
fuck you
placid portal
thin stone
I am not that dumb
placid portal
Wym
It is literally sly marbo build
+2 wound curio and +3 stamina just to be more closer
thin stone
thin stone
can someone please recommend a serious havoc build
viral swallow
DS + Plasma
austere mica
Everyone who plays vet well enough to do deep havoc isn’t here
viral swallow
make sure you throw in VoC because why not
thin stone
Why not infiltrate
viral swallow
because if you're doing infiltrate that's an entirely different build, lol
teal canyon
Havoc isn playable atm
viral swallow
if you want to use infiltrate use infiltrate, you asked for a build I gave you one
thin stone
Havoc isn playable atm
why?
austere mica
Havoc isn playable atm
This is a skill issue
teal canyon
9999errors and bugged progression
austere mica
Oh that
That just means it’s inconsistently playable
And progression isn’t bugged to my knowledge, people just don’t read
placid portal
Being inconsistant means it's kinda not playable in some sense?
dense light
Maybe I'm tripping but I've had like two games where I somehow still aggro'd an enemy in Infiltrate.
austere mica
Yeah I’m just being annoying
teal canyon
Also bots steal health
dense light
Which twice isn't much considering I've had a lot of matches today, but still enough to make me like "wtf"
tawny timber
Maybe I'm tripping but I've had like two games where I somehow still aggro'd an ...
nothing is better than getting hit by a crusher overhead in infiltrate
faint beacon
Wildest fucking take I can say from Havoc and doing a Duo with @tall torrent
Smokes
Unironically are good
placid portal
Also bots steal health
Barrel bomb bots
dense light
nothing is better than getting hit by a crusher overhead in infiltrate
That and Dreg Rager's lil merry-go-round of arm flailing
placid portal
Me using Dclaw but ragers are ignoring me:
https://youtu.be/Ap0zu6i35vY?si=OvDPQKRHNx0jDp1v
tall torrent
can someone please recommend a serious havoc build
Rashad + laspistol
Smokes
Unironically
thin stone
Rashad + laspistol
How
austere mica
How do I use smonk
Pull pin, release
thin stone
I mean how this and not PS + Recon
thin stone
Fair
tall torrent
How
Watch reaper obliterate your toughness bar in 0.3s and you get 100-0’d within 0.3s
placid portal
Pull pin, release
thin stone
Watch reaper obliterate your toughness bar in 0.3s and you get 100-0’d within 0....
What ability?
tall torrent
VoC
tall torrent
Is somehow balanced in havoc
thin stone
Damn
tall torrent
Because of the insane ranged enemies’ damage
thin stone
Bro is cooking
tall torrent
You can pop VoC and immediately get shot by 1 stalker burst and ur overtoughness is gone
grand perch
Just as the founding fathers intended
thin stone
You can pop VoC and immediately get shot by 1 stalker burst and ur overtoughness...
Why is infiltrate not good
Since you can go invis
tall torrent
Why is infiltrate not good
2 point extra cost + enemies have higher health so u don’t get to kill as many in low profile
placid portal
You can pop VoC and immediately get shot by 1 stalker burst and ur overtoughness...
Darktide vet in damnation:
Toughness: 200
Darktide vet in Havoc:
Toughness: 3
thin stone
2 point extra cost + enemies have higher health so u don’t get to kill as many i...
Can you send the skill tree for havoc plos
fiery raft
what are the marks for sapper shovel
pearl mango
HI there, is there anything i should change before going to try havoc ? im not a fan over the powersword, got a dualing word and shock maul i could use to. appreciate all tips : ) @tall torrent do you have any tips ?
fiery raft
like difference
placid portal
Gotta say I think FS is just making vets more tabletop accurate in terms of durability
viral swallow
Why is infiltrate not good
man if you wanna use infiltrate, use infiltrate
you don't need permission
tall torrent
Can you send the skill tree for havoc plos
I play duo/trio so we always have bot for survivalist ammo gain
faint beacon
Fucking you don’t understand
tall torrent
Krak & smoke are different roles
thin stone
I only played till havoc 12 so yeh idk
viral swallow
HI there, is there anything i should change before going to try havoc ? im not ...
DS >>> PS, use that instead, I would also try to pick up one of the stamina regen delay reduction talents at the bottom left or bottom right of the tree but that's just me
can't stand playing without them
thin stone
This mode is broken
placid portal
Havoc reaper kills you in 0.6s from full health + full toughness
Not like reaper already had insane HP damage modifier
thin stone
Nobody can fire that fast in reality
faint beacon
It’s meant to be hard
tall torrent
Reaper has high health damage but low toughness damage multiplier
This mode however cuts your total toughness
faint beacon
Anyways we found a work around for the “Pus Hardened Skin” modifier
thin stone
Looks like I'm cooked
faint beacon
Use anything with Infernus
thin stone
Anyways we found a work around for the “Pus Hardened Skin” modifier
What's that
faint beacon
The value is fucking insane
thin stone
Use anything with Infernus
Damn
faint beacon
Pus Hardened Skin is enemies have 50% Damage reduction to ranged attacks
Gunners and reapers with it
thin stone
Infernus + Ghost Laspistol?
faint beacon
Are fucking nightmares
placid portal
Use anything with Infernus
Does any dot help? Like bleed?
tall torrent
Make 2 laspistols
One with ghost + dum dum for regular play
One with ghost + infernus specifically for pus-hardened
tall torrent
Does any dot help? Like bleed?
Pus-hardened reduces ranged damage taken
DOT is not ranged damage
faint beacon
Psyker I suggest Soulblaze
pearl mango
DS >>> PS, use that instead, I would also try to pick up one of the stamina rege...
What point should i remove to get that Stamina regen delay?, wich mark for DS and perk,blessing
placid portal
Pus-hardened reduces ranged damage taken
DOT is not ranged damage
Cool, but what if Im melee vet
thin stone
tall torrent
Cool, but what if Im melee vet <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
You run smokes or krak depending on your role
But tbh
viral swallow
Psyker I suggest Soulblaze
either of y'all try the double barrel out at all?
tall torrent
This is like the only mode in the game where smoke is legitimately one of the best things u can bring
faint beacon
either of y'all try the double barrel out at all?
Way too risky on higher waves
35+ Havoc
Ammo tins are reduced by 75% total ammo given
placid portal
This is like the only mode in the game where smoke is legitimately one of the be...
Glad smoke has a place now 🥹
viral swallow
ah damn, shame I didn't realize ammo got that scarce even with scav
tall torrent
Seems like veteran havoc meta is
Rashad
Laspistol
Infantry lasgun 7
Plasma gun
Recon lasgun
faint beacon
It why we’re recommending anything
tall torrent
Damn this looks surprisingly close to what an actual guardsman squad would use
faint beacon
With a laser
faint beacon
Shocktrooper has insane value on builds
placid portal
Damn this looks surprisingly close to what an actual guardsman squad would use
Minus rashad, should be using combat blade or claw
tall torrent
ah damn, shame I didn't realize ammo got that scarce even with scav
Max rank is -75% gains from ammo pickups
Ammo tin goes from 15% of reserve to 3.75% of reserve
tall torrent
Minus rashad, should be using combat blade or claw
Nah
viral swallow
man I've been playing Rashad + Plasma + VoC for ages already, was kinda hoping the shotty builds would be viable all the way up
tall torrent
Axe is very common for imperial guard melee combat
faint beacon
Heavily depends on role
Heavy Sword 9 you could use
But you risk having no carapace option
tall torrent
Heavy sword 9 is really fucking good in a horde clear role
If ur teammates got carapace options u can basically murk everything else
placid portal
Axe is very common for imperial guard melee combat
Ok that was something I did not know 🥹
viral swallow
Rashad is love, Rashad is life
tall torrent
Rashad is the costlier multi purpose tool
viral swallow
There is no problem the Rashad cannot solve
placid portal
There is no problem the Rashad cannot solve
Can it fix my tax filing for my tithes
placid portal
tall torrent
Proper Rashad kit kills crushers & maulers in 3~4 hits (instead of 2~3) depending on crits in havoc scaling
viral swallow
like onetapping entire columns of ragers
tall torrent
Which is really fucking good in a mode where a duelling sword may take 5
viral swallow
give them the big bonk
placid portal
Wait didnt know rashad can 1 shot ragers?
Thought it has kinda meh finesse for weakpoints
tall torrent
Wait didnt know rashad can 1 shot ragers?
Thought it has kinda meh finesse for w...
It can’t 1 shot ragers in havoc
Ragers have up to 3k health
placid portal
Clearly someone was lying
tall torrent
Rashad takes like 5 light atks for Dreg rager
At max scaling
If u crit / have PA mixed in it’s more like 4
For scab rager it’s 3~4 depending on crits & PA but scab rager has much higher mass so u only stagger one at a time
placid portal
Would chainaxe hold up 🧐
tall torrent
Unlike Dreg rager where u can stagger 3 at a time
tall torrent
Would chainaxe hold up 🧐
Me personally, I wouldn’t
viral swallow
isn't the overhead chop way better for scabs than light spam?
placid portal
Welp one way to find out
tall torrent
The unfortunate reality is that there’re way more elite spawns than you’re probably used to
And Moebian 21st modifier is a thing
placid portal
The unfortunate reality is that there’re way more elite spawns than you’re proba...
Im not used to anything 
tall torrent
I’ll put it this way
At max scaling
A single poxwalker has 4 mass
Your chainaxe heavy attack gets to hit 2 poxwalkers
And you’re done
viral swallow
that's a thick boy
tall torrent
Getting max headtaker & slaughterer stacks only allows u to hit 4
If u do not have brutal momentum or dedicated cleave blessings
You’re simply not cleaving shit
placid portal
+9 stamina it is
tall torrent
+9 stamina it is <:Guarded:972247035128447086>
Nah
If you don’t build enough health
Getting hit by a single Poxburster/sniper instantly downs you in 1 hit
At max rank scaling
grand perch
Man, will I finally have to turn try hard to even attempt to get to havoc 40
runic axle
MILF: Man I love Frags
runic axle
Getting hit by a single Poxburster/sniper instantly downs you in 1 hit
Did you already get to rank 40 or is this theory based on code or something else
grim oriole
Can I get a consise professional veteran build? I’m just not smart enough for all this man
runic axle
If you're below lvl 30 you don't need a build yet
grim oriole
I’m already
grim oriole
I like the boltgun and recon lasgun but I don’t know which melee is the best
runic axle
Boltgun is pretty good. Best melees are Dueling Sword, Power Sword Mk6 and Rashad Combat Axe.
But if you want a build, like actually something decent, then you need to max the mastery with a weapon so that you can pick the needed blessings for it yourself.
grim oriole
What blessings are good?
runic axle
Depends on a weapon, a lot of them have different ones
For the dueling sword I can't say much because I don't have it built properly, but gimme a second to log into the game, I'll get the screens of the power sword and rashad
runic axle
What blessings are good?
earnest bone
A single poxwalker has 4 mass
mass increase is the most boring thing
tall torrent
mass increase is the most boring thing
rashad ur way out of problems
earnest bone
rashad ur way out of problems
what do we do with 250 crushers and maulers, rashad takes like x4 more time than DS
tall torrent
what do we do with 250 crushers and maulers, rashad takes like x4 more time than...
No?
Rashad is 3~4 hits vs crushers & maulers
placid portal
FS making sure brutal momentum stays meta af
grim oriole
These auric maelstroms got me feeling real discouraged
somber adder
Just try!
runic axle
These auric maelstroms got me feeling real discouraged
Send your build too btw, just weapons isn't good enough
somber adder
Some of darktide's best moments are in the suffering incarnate modifiers
runic axle
I despise the pus skin modifier. You enter a room and there's like 8 gunners, 3 snipers, 2-3 reapers and you can't properly kill from range half of them.
tall torrent
I despise the pus skin modifier. You enter a room and there's like 8 gunners, 3 ...
Smoke them out 
somber adder
Rush them
grim oriole
How do I take a picture of my whole build?
runic axle
Rush them
1 reaper is enough to kill you in like 2 secondsw, fuck am I gonna do with several + gunner squad.
Best I can do is throw a nade, do 3 slides, shit myself and die
dry cloak
How do I take a picture of my whole build?
do it in parts if you cant
earnest bone
I despise the pus skin modifier. You enter a room and there's like 8 gunners, 3 ...
Infernus can kill them
swift river
Smoke them out <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Krak'em out
earnest bone
it seems to bypass/ ignore this
grim oriole
How do I max out all the 80s on weapons?
runic axle
How do I take a picture of my whole build?
You can use this website too
darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
earnest bone
How do I max out all the 80s on weapons?
you cant
runic axle
How do I max out all the 80s on weapons?
You can't. There will always be 20% missing in total.
earnest bone
one stat will be 60
tall torrent
Pus-hardened reduces ranged damage taken
DOT is not ranged damage
runic axle
Doesn't help when I like running boltgun and plasma ,_,
grim oriole
But your weapons have all 80v
runic axle
But your weapons have all 80v
Look again, mobility 60.
earnest bone
Pus-hardened reduces ranged damage taken
DOT is not ranged damage
it seems at one point it was
earnest bone
when Dumdum reacted with it
somber adder
1 reaper is enough to kill you in like 2 secondsw, fuck am I gonna do with sever...
Run perpedincular at like a 70° angle, sprint slide chain into dodge slide, take ranged evasion talents, get gunner resist on curios.
earnest bone
you could get a permanent dumdum uptime as long as someone is burning
runic axle
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da6918b-789e-4e5d-bb79-8ef4d5f58cf1/i-...
WTH boy 3 combat ability regen on curios
Block efficiency too
grim oriole
This is so hard man
past junco
soo when are we getting sniper scopes on the helbores?
runic axle
This is so hard man
Just make 3 screenshots of your screen each, going down the talent tree.
Preferably combine them in 1 long image in paint or something if you can
placid portal
soo when are we getting sniper scopes on the helbores?
Never, empra decides if you will hit your shot guardsmen
swift river
You know what else could work? And it's somethin I've found I enjoy...
Shredder grenade and mercy killer.
earnest bone
soo when are we getting sniper scopes on the helbores?
you can get them if you are on PC via mod
placid portal
you can get them if you are on PC via mod
Still sucks, zoom and tunnel vision is worse than the sightless irons that helbor has ngl
past junco
Never, empra decides if you will hit your shot guardsmen
sir yes sir
teal canyon
WTH boy 3 combat ability regen on curios
Combat ability uptime is goat
grim oriole
It won’t even let me send pictures
runic axle
Combat ability uptime is goat
It's really not. With stance you can have virtually unlimited upkeep in fights and at high difficulty you can enough elites to regen VoC and Infiltrate in like 5-10 seconds at times
swift river
Still sucks, zoom and tunnel vision is worse than the sightless irons that helbo...
The new Helbore skin has decent iron sights
Better than standard, anyway
placid portal
The new Helbore skin has decent iron sights
Personally still prefer mk4 imo
swift river
I mean, same
placid portal
Tan bore*
runic axle
It won’t even let me send pictures
wdym
swift river
But that abyssmal bayonet attack...
placid portal
But that abyssmal bayonet attack...
True 😭
runic axle
if you make them with prt scrn then try putting them with Ctrl + V
placid portal
At least 2~3 shot cara fools and 1 shot everything😎
swift river
You know... I wonder...
teal canyon
It's really not. With stance you can have virtually unlimited upkeep in fights a...
You loose upkeep when reloading bolter and you have it ready for another go. Its also about showing badguys to the team, so they could focus groups of shooters. But i forget to take that node, did i?
grim oriole
Is the revolver really that op?
dry cloak
yes
steady wolf
probably the best vet gun
teal canyon
Is the revolver really that op?
Meh. I think boltpistol better
swift river
Awww....
I thought equipping the new skin on the Mk4 Helbore might change it's bayonet attack, since it's a pokey bayonet and not a knife
It doesn't...
placid portal
It doesn't...
If it did explain the other helbor skins that use mk1 model
Also mk4 best model bc it has a nice wood grip and stock
grim oriole
Can someone send me a good revolver build?
teal canyon
Lasguns need cleave. Or any kind of buff, really. They are annoying to use.
runic axle
Is the revolver really that op?
For weapon specialist builds it is.
teal canyon
Can someone send me a good revolver build?
Are you an aim ace?
grim oriole
Not really but with practice I’m sure it couldn’t be hard
runic axle
Oh, it masks them like that
teal canyon
Not really but with practice I’m sure it couldn’t be hard
With what game mechanic are you good exactly?
runic axle
Can someone send me a good revolver build?
teal canyon
The Veteran update will buff lasguns
Lasguns need any sort of buff. They are obnoxious to use
runic axle
You loose upkeep when reloading bolter and you have it ready for another go. Its...
It's so that you can mow down a bunch of elites having an easy time spotting them and having increased damage to have to make less double-taps.
teal canyon
It's so that you can mow down a bunch of elites having an easy time spotting the...
I dont doubletap anything really becide ragers and ogryns
But they buffed gunners it seems, and it's not yet tested it
But before the update i onetap gunner in the head
austere mica
No HP changes
Just effective range and movement while firing
And accompanying ai changes
teal canyon
Ragers could live through the headshot. Not for long tho
round jetty
so what exactly is "havoc clearance level" 🤔
austere mica
What rank are you at
round jetty
28 or sum
👻
i thought it was gonna be super crazy but its not super bad
just kind of a little bit more amped auric maelstrom
placid portal
Me never talking in party 🥹
round jetty
Me never talking in party 🥹
round jetty
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placid portal
Nonono I dont mean you, its my reaction 😭😭😭
round jetty
this party finder system is super fucking ass
placid portal
I think I need actual friends to play
placid portal
placid portal
are you NA
NO
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brazen steppe
What side is the melee side
true umbra
Top 3 ranged weapons? (Personal preferences)
hollow warren
What side is the melee side
Weapon's expert? Right side
Although you don't need to go full right side for the pure melee build
75% goes in the middle, the last 25% are all over the place, with the keystone being Weapon's Expert
true umbra
Of an overall build how essential are the weapon blessings?
remote sonnet
If you want to do well in higher difficulty, it is a big boost.
Many of blessing can lead a weapon from 3-4 hits an enemy to 1-2 hits.
frail skiff
What would people think of Chink in their armour if instead of the flat 10% it was 4% rending per stack of MF? That way you could have 40% at 10 stacks and 60 at 15 if you take LRA.
true umbra
If you want to do well in higher difficulty, it is a big boost.
I have max “stat” weapons, of a few kinds but I don’t know how to farm the desirable blessings.
I finished 2 auric maelstrom’s yesterday. So I must be decent right? 😂😂
remote sonnet
That's a long answer
true umbra
I know. It was more or less a joke
I’ve been able to finish all the content I’ve wanted to finish with the game. I just don’t really understand the weapon crafting system
remote sonnet
Like, people can run auric mael with a knife and almost never use gun.
true umbra
In my case, I almost never use the melee weapon
frail skiff
What are you using?
true umbra
I was straight maining the plasma gun
frail skiff
Oh
brazen steppe
In my case, I almost never use the melee weapon
remote sonnet
I hate to say, but it sounds like you get carried...
frail skiff
Yeah...
true umbra
I hate to say, but it sounds like you get carried...
I could very well be. I have 3 buddies I play with. They don’t seem to tell me I’m bad
remote sonnet
No shame though, everyone gets that once in a while when they want to have some fun build.
frail skiff
What melee do you carry?
true umbra
Shovel or chain sword
frail skiff
If you want a good all around, then Rashad Axe has your back
true umbra
I think I have more or less copied the “team leader” build that is the most popular build on the build website
remote sonnet
I could very well be. I have 3 buddies I play with. They don’t seem to tell me I...
If you play with friends, you guys can giving tasks on who does what.
So it is easier to run some build.
true umbra
But also, I’m reasonably good at all shooters.
I feel like being able to dodge and kill priority targets is universal in coop shooters and the more nuances of the game are required with randoms who are genuinely bad
remote sonnet
If you play public games with random, you need to be self sufficient, which will not happen if you don't use melee 80% of the game.
velvet dawn
Wrong chat sorry
true umbra
If you play public games with random, you need to be self sufficient, which will...
But also, none of my friends seem to use their guns period.
true umbra
Zealot, and Psyker
Almost no one ever uses ogryn
I also have 300 hours as just veteran
Maybe I should try another class..
remote sonnet
Just try public games and you will find yourself a different experience
frail skiff
Yeah
true umbra
I mean, a lot of hours doesn’t mean I’m good at the game though.
remote sonnet
It's then you need blessings and other things to keep yourself alive
true umbra
Most of my hours were in year 1 when you essentially gained nothing for playing past level 30
I don’t play this much anymore, but I’d like to try and play it more
But I also have 600 hours on verm 2, so I understand how to “play” these games
But I don’t understand the builds at all
frail skiff
Well, doesn't help that the build system between VT2 And DT are night and day
true umbra
Essentially
And I’ve always played these games in a group. So I’ve never deviated from one or two classes
frail skiff
You might want to try randoms every now and then and get a feel for it, because schedules never line up. Most folks are friendly. Just don't look like you're actively hampering the team and you'll do fine
true umbra
I tried to do 3 auric maelstroms the other day alone
And I had a terrible experience
But I’m pretty sure that most people who have very low hours on the game are just strolling into it
I may be bad, but the people I was being queued with were significantly worse
frail skiff
Get more melee practice in, because depending on the AM, you would burn through all your plasma ammo before you hit a third of the way through the map
true umbra
I don’t quite literally only use the ranged weapon
I won’t shoot rank and file with the plasma rifle
But, I do spend a lot of time just shooting back line enemies
frail skiff
Even then, you will probably be taking care of the near endless waves of elites and specials
true umbra
But also, so many randoms in pub just stand and eat machine gunners or shot gunners. Nobody breaks LOS. Shit like that which seems universally obvious to me is what I see a lot of people die to.
And aside from the psyker. It would seem pretty obvious that you can’t dodge bullets.
deep fable
Not all blessings are made equal.
Uncanny strike is otherworldly strong
frail skiff
Could almost say that it's uncanny even
true umbra
But yeah, the guns I like aren’t particularly that great anyway
Recon las gun seems incredibly mid
jaunty sphinx
lmao no it's great
deep fable
Recon las gun seems incredibly mid
Poor performance vs flak is kinda damning
true umbra
And I think I’m still living off the cope of the pre-nerf power sword
jaunty sphinx
Just get power cycler 2
deep fable
Multiple dead ragers from 100-0 per swing
4 empowered swings to kill a crusher
Still the strongest melee weapon in the game
jaunty sphinx
Dueling sword is more overpowered than the og psword imo
true umbra
And doesn’t the updated rager have the carapace armor now?
true umbra
Dueling sword is more overpowered than the og psword imo
I will have to try
deep fable
Dueling sword is more overpowered than the og psword imo
I'm iffy on that but yeah it's definitely a fight
true umbra
I don’t play enough to have a strong version of every weapon
deep fable
Bro imagine if relic blade had uncanny strike
jaunty sphinx
Like the thing has no downsides it's insane that they gave it to everyone
deep fable
Jesus
true umbra
And I fall asleep playing anything below damnation
jaunty sphinx
Real
true umbra
I also got lost in the sauce with SM2 for awhile
frail skiff
Recon las gun seems incredibly mid
I have a recon las gun build that will carry
You need to build it right
true umbra
I have a recon las gun build that will carry
Could you DM it to me?
I’d be curious to take a look
deep fable
I also got lost in the sauce with SM2 for awhile
It's a horribly unbalanced experience.
Heavy has the perfect closing tool and a built in delete button with the multi melta
true umbra
I have a recon las gun build that will carry
Like especially the trinkets (forgot their name) but I just have 3 random ones.
true umbra
It's a horribly unbalanced experience.
Heavy has the perfect closing tool and a ...
I use the mods that let you use any weapon on any class
frail skiff
Get 17% toughness in all slots
true umbra
Modded SM2 is the superior experience IMO
true umbra
Get 17% toughness in all slots
I believe I have 2 of them with toughness.
deep fable
I run one health
true umbra
I also have not attempted to mod darktide so I have no ability to gauge my performance match to match