for horde clear you do, L1 H2
#veteran-class
cobalt crest
I mean light attack spam*
hollow ibex
it's still a fun weapon, but i only run it on shoot-heavy builds
cobalt crest
I really feel like I can only use it with the boltor/plasma gun/ revolver tbh
queen fox
Mk1 is my favorite tbh
hollow ibex
Mk1 is straight up worse sadly
i like the concept of it, but the heavies are too slow, no strikedown heavy
cobalt crest
Isn't it better for horde clear theoretically cause it's all horizontal?
hearty panther
i just hate the way it looks
hollow ibex
important to still have strikedown heavies so you can kill single targets quickly
cobalt crest
But you can just do h2 spam and do horde clear
hollow ibex
and the heavy sweeps are too slow
hollow ibex
HS is much better if you don't need parry
i dislike the feeling of HS though, for some reason dclaw feels stronger (despite having like half the DPS 
)
cobalt crest
Low-key I've been using meta melees for the longest time knives, dueling swords, power swords
My favourite new melee so far is the shovel
Both the mk1 and mkvii feel great imo
hollow ibex
not a huge fan of shovels now these days =/
scenic oracle
I've been using the chain sword, feels great with weapon specialist
tame lodge
Isn't it better for horde clear theoretically cause it's all horizontal?
Well you'll most likely will need some cleave blessings
9.5 cleave on the heavies will not go through 3 scab bruisers
true trellis
Well you'll most likely will need some cleave blessings
9.5 cleave on the heavi...
rampage 
queen fox
important to still have strikedown heavies so you can kill single targets quickl...
Just parry the single target
Mk1 always felt best to me
hollow ibex
well use what you like best, but Mk I is the mark people typically don't use for good reason
queen fox
Well you'll most likely will need some cleave blessings
9.5 cleave on the heavi...
It will if it's swung at head level
queen fox
Whichever is funniest
quaint sparrow
so cutthroat would be the obvious choice
primal zealot
Obviously the one that sounds like Conor mcgregor
quaint sparrow
Obviously the one that sounds like Conor mcgregor
Which one is that, lol?
primal zealot
The Irish sounding one
quaint sparrow
Which one is the voice that has the funny interactions with ogryns and psykers ?
primal zealot
Hmmmmm
cobalt crest
Is stopping power the dump stat on normal lasguns
quaint sparrow
Is it loose cannon?
tall torrent
Is stopping power the dump stat on normal lasguns
no, dump mobility for infantry lasguns
midnight mesa
cobalt crest
Warframe got so much better under Rebecca though
Only deserves to be on that list during the railjack/open world era
merry coral
26 millions registered losers
queen fox
Real except darktide is actually good
visual badge
does veteran have body clothes like the commissar
I know we have the hat but I would dig for an actual coat like that
quaint sparrow
There is that one yellow one
tall torrent
does veteran have body clothes like the commissar
yea
not in rotation
neat stratus
Darktide was fixed though, in my opinion. Honestly Im excited for the next update, I wanna use the new 2h swords
Now its just Payday 3, which has just a little potential, Helldivers, which I know nothing about, and Destiny 2... which is done for
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helldivers is good
definitely past it's prime but it is still fun to do an operation
neat stratus
Ok so that meme is outdated then
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I would say it's kinda
I want to lie and say it's good but
PSN fucked over the game, and it is a little wonky at best rn
it went from about 200K players to 30K-50K
neat stratus
Id put Payday 3 there since its the only one that genuinely needed to be fixed
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I think PD3 has no chance of being fixed
neat stratus
Helldivers got unfixed after launching wonderfully
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and I am diehard PD2 fan
neat stratus
and I am diehard PD2 fan
PD2 still has more players
neat stratus
This is not a joke
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it is sad to see, I was really excited for PD3
was one of the games I wanted to play when I got my new pc to finally play these games
neat stratus
I knew that itd release in a bad state to be honest
The new status quo is for games to release as a broken mess and maybe get better down the line
Payday 3 just never lifted off
Darktide is the opposite way around
It released and wasn't very good, terrible some would say. Now it's pretty much succeeding Vermintide 2
midnight mesa
Darktide *was* fixed though, in my opinion. Honestly Im excited for the next upd...
Honestly
I feel like Darktide is currently in a much better state than release
And even at release it had a solid gameplay loop
neat stratus
It is
It always had the bones of a good game, which is why I knew theyd eventually bring it back
midnight mesa
I do feel like there is a dire need for QoL but besides that
Currently?
It's going great
...
Still weird how I need a mod for a fucking scoreboard though
neat stratus
I think the new crafting system is great too
In a lot of ways better than Vermintide, maybe aside from the RNG factor in the stats but what can you do
midnight mesa
Gotta love my 0% damage Lasgun
neat stratus
Use the weapon a lot and you'll be able to make a perfect one 🔥
midnight mesa
A true guardsman's weapon
hollow ibex
Still weird how I need a mod for a fucking scoreboard though
pretty sure it's intentional at this point
neat stratus
Gotta love my 0% damage Lasgun
Thats just a laser pointer
primal zealot
Still weird how I need a mod for a fucking scoreboard though
And numeric ui. Had it so long I forgot it was a mod and some guy was just amazed that I could see how much ammo and whatnot the team had
neat stratus
pretty sure it's intentional at this point
I figured it was. People would get toxic over getting green circles, now there's no reason to compete and no proof of superiority
visual badge
ngl scoreboard while great, kinda makes me feel a bit too competitive
maybe personal stats would be good
just not for entire party
neat stratus
ngl scoreboard while great, kinda makes me feel a bit too competitive
Exactly, most people who use scoreboard (not saying you do) mostly do it to feed into their superiority
runic flower
I do that
neat stratus
Or to dog on the worst player, idk
hearty panther
this discord is basically all the evidence you need lmao
hollow ibex
i think it's good to confirm if my build is doing well or not... and who the jackass is taking all the ammo
runic flower
Or to dog on the worst player, idk
I also do this
neat stratus
I also do this
I know what kind of man you are
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it was good when I was doing untouchable and on overwatch
making sure I really did not take any dmg lol
neat stratus
Personally I prefer not to see any stats at all
The moment I can see how good Im doing I get angry at myself for not doing as good as I want
midnight mesa
Exactly, most people who use scoreboard (not saying you do) mostly do it to feed...
Honestly I just wanna see how many heretics I killed
neat stratus
The moment I can see how good Im doing I get angry at myself for not doing as go...
Just puts me into a terrible mindset that eventually leads to me quitting the game because Im not seeing a ton of improvement over long periods of time
primal zealot
I like seeing that I killed the most heretics so the emperor likes me more
midnight mesa
I just wanna see my body count
neat stratus
Darktide? Never thought about how good Im doing. Its fun
midnight mesa
Blood for the Emperor
runic flower
I just want to see who wasn't doing anything and every single time at the end of the game there's one guy who mustered the courage to queue up for auric and only killed like 5 ranged elites the entire game
midnight mesa
SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
neat stratus
I like seeing that I killed the most heretics so the emperor likes me more
"THIS IS WHY THE EMPEROR DOESNT LOVE YOU"
primal zealot
Also it’s just interesting to see how updates affect stuff like sources of damage
neat stratus
I just want to see who wasn't doing anything and every single time at the end of...
Well, cant learn without doing
hearty panther
I just want to see who wasn't doing anything and every single time at the end of...
this is one of those things where you're better off just not knowing and well, growing the fuck up lmao
neat stratus
this is one of those things where you're better off just not knowing and well, g...
^
hearty panther
it really just doesnt matter
neat stratus
Like legit if you won you won, who cares
if you lost you're just looking for who to blame, cope
hearty panther
anybody who's good at stats will tell you the scoreboard is mostly useless and anybody bad at stats isnt going to be able to use a scoreboard anyway
visual badge
not like it matters anyway
if you just look at your teammates, you can most likely figure out how they're doing
neat stratus
Anyways Im actually partaking in getting myself fits (irl)
Thrift stores have some crazy deals sometimes 🔥
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and it's not a competition, because in damnation and above, you should be sticking together
neat stratus
Got a $200 pair of boots for $12, practically new condition
midnight mesa
and it's not a competition, because in damnation and above, you should be sticki...
I just want to see how much disgusting blood is on my hands
How many heads I decapitated with my seord
runic flower
Well, cant learn without doing
You can learn in regular damnation and still be reasonably challenged. I genuinely do wonder how the gears in their head turn to think "Today I will queue up for the most difficult content the game has to offer and do nothing"
neat stratus
$150 wool jacket for $30, Id be surprised if it were ever worn
runic flower
scoreboard is definitely okay for personal stats
that's its only actual use case
personal metrics to see how you performed
midnight mesa
If my attitude in Darktide says anything
neat stratus
You can learn in regular damnation and still be reasonably challenged. I genuine...
You can't see intentions through stats, you have to be actively watching the player. You can fail horribly if you try just as you can run away from everything, both get you the same stats
midnight mesa
Speaking of which sorry for anybody who was in a game before I was level 30
neat stratus
And make sure you have the mental fortitude for it, you'll put yourself off the game if you don't
visual badge
I liked running away and exploring
if you were also finding materials, I appreciate you
so many people in auric damnation just not picking up materials
primal zealot
I confess that I have stopped picking up mats that aren’t directly in front of me
tall torrent
so many people in auric damnation just not picking up materials
only diamantine really matters now
plasteel is worthless
neat stratus
You know what I wanna do Gunker
runic flower
I liked running away and exploring
nothing wrong with that
that's ideal even in auric mael. a single combat stim can clutch a pack of crushers
hearty panther
im creeping up to 7 digits on rare mats and stopped seeing the point
neat stratus
You know what I wanna do Gunker
I dont care if the staves are the better option, they're boring
midnight mesa
if you were also finding materials, I appreciate you
Yeah mainly for that
I still do it occasionally
However I uh
tall torrent
plasteel pretty much exists solely for scoreboard padding now
midnight mesa
Am not the best still
primal zealot
I have nearly 500k plasteel. I have gone above and beyond as a loot goblin. It is time for someone else to shoulder this burden
midnight mesa
plasteel pretty much exists solely for scoreboard padding now
I am relatively new
So I run low constantly
I liked gambling
tall torrent
diamantine and dockets run out much faster than plasteel in terms of actual crafting
primal zealot
Also it’s a fuckin pain on ogryn. I’m more use to the team killing shit while they loot instead of slowly lurching towards some plasteel only for a knife zealot to zoom past, grab it, and get back in the fight before I have time to blink
tall torrent
diamantine is like
~1.4k per gold 500 power weapon
which is like 4~5 games
one game is ~300 diamantine on avg
visual badge
I need the materials so bad, I just pick them up as I'm fighting
tall torrent
plasteel is ~1k per game
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I am not letting any of them go
tall torrent
highest I think is 1205 plasteel in 1 game including 10% QP bonus
serene bough
Love that interaction
frank basin
Me voiced professional never see that interaction
frank basin
5 people
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yeah, I have no idea how
cursive hedge
I only see 4
frank basin
Zoom the names
loud belfry
ive seen 5 people in a game before. i just assume someone is cheating and made it happen somehow
kindred stump
What's the dumpstat for plasma guns?
tall torrent
What's the dumpstat for plasma guns?
doesn't have one
kindred stump
So what should I look for?
oblique totem
Hey hey veterans.
What's falling apart today?
tall torrent
So what should I look for?
kindred stump
Thanks
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why is power sword so unfun to use
why do I want a melee that is only good if I use the special action
oblique totem
The very same question we all ask
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like it works great with special action, problem is that if I get hit during the charge, it is completely negated
so when I try to hit them, because I can't hear the sound of how loud other sounds are
I hit them with the force of a wet napkin
the push attack is good for oneshotting chaff, but come on man
errant carbon
why is power sword so unfun to use
Needs to be switched back on every 1-3 swings, generally poor mobility, Vet doesn't have TWBS
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the animation should be quicker and it'd be good option
austere mica
like it works great with special action, problem is that if I get hit during the...
mk6 can block and charge
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I didn't try it yet, didn't have it unlock
errant carbon
I was about to say, at least you can animation cancel with block, but wasn't sure if it was only the Mk6 because I haven't used the Mk3 in literally years
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so might as well
errant carbon
Mk6 also has a very strong charge -> push attack -> light attack combo
The Mk6 charged lights are good enough for horde clear if there are no Ragers or larger mixed in, which helps with the feel of it as well.
visual badge
well gonna have to try it out, I just unlocked the other mk version
arctic rampart
personally I find the mk3 to be more fun as you're sliding or dodge activating
try them both so you know which one you like more
rotund tartan
When are they buffing the combat blade so it's as good as the dueling sword? Aren't they supposed to be buffing the bad weapons?
faint beacon
When are they buffing the combat blade so it's as good as the dueling sword? Are...
Hopefully soon its really really weak...
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aw hell nah
well I wanted to say combat blade is good
it's fun though
definitely not weak though
broken spade
Okay but with insanely impractical setup and a dogshit build made for 1 purpose, I can do it with a non-crit
Also i'd just like to say setting this up sucked
because DD only activates if you enable aggro
Wait
It works if i enable and then disable aggro
I could've made it so much easier
wtf
oblique totem
I like the heavy sword for vet.
Pairs nicely with an autogun
proud parrot
veteran really got the short end of the stick, no new weapons
oblique totem
Our lot was always to suffer
errant carbon
queen fox
I like the heavy sword for vet.
Pairs nicely with an autogun
How do you kill crushers
oblique totem
Krak grenades
torpid quail
Idrm that we don't have new weapons
I just want smth I can hold in two hands
oblique totem
No luck
short fern
Idrm that we don't have new weapons
I just want smth I can hold in two hands
sigh... all the adult jokes I thought of
torpid quail
sigh... all the adult jokes I thought of
Oh don't worry
I want to beat heretics to death with that too
Salt their wounds
wooden moat
brother I can’t even hold mine with all 5 fingers
terse idol
veteran really got the short end of the stick, no new weapons
We're just built bettah
glacial yacht
which chainsword yall like better for mixed hordes
ruby hull
aight so i finally got my vet grenadier build in order but im intrested in thoughts on the build
builds been pullin some super solid results in auric
pseudo fiber
It's fun
One of the most unique ones you can do in get
Struggles on armour usually... but I bring Dueling sword to cover that
hollow ibex
you're going to miss breakpoints without taking FT
and you can take precision strikes instead of determined since bistol has built-in supression resist
ruby hull
Ft? I'm a psyker main
hollow ibex
oh focus target
the middle keystone
you could prob also take take them down instead of rending strikes
ruby hull
It's not really doin much for my grenades tho
hollow ibex
you prob also don't need charismatic
ruby hull
Sure it will hit some single target breakpoints I guess
hollow ibex
it's just that rending strikes prob isn't doing much with bistol anyway
so might as well go for take them down
ruby hull
it's just that rending strikes prob isn't doing much with bistol anyway
What about all the grenade and bistol bleed?
pseudo fiber
I agree with switching suspension to precision strikes and taking off charismatic for focus target
But rending does work on bleed so...
ruby hull
It's built for the grenades, and the bolt pistol just happened to fit the best
hollow ibex
What about all the grenade and bistol bleed?
i never tested rending strikes' impact on bleed, so fair point.
ruby hull
Does Charismatic affect demolition teams radius?
ruby hull
i never tested rending strikes' impact on bleed, so fair point.
If it's anything like how soul fire interacts with rending it's a decent damage boost to bleed
thin stone
hello sussy vets
tame lichen
gilded wraith
Going from zealot toughness damage reduction and speed to most anything else can be jarring.
ruby hull
see this is why i main psyker, so when i play like a zealot with psyker, playing like a zealot with every other class is a total cakewalk
thin stone
see this is why i main psyker, so when i play like a zealot with psyker, playing...
I hope both sides of your pillow is warm
I hope your water heater takes 30+ minutes to heat the water
I hope you have to turn around the USB cable 1000+ times before it gets plugged in
oblique sparrow
Im sorry vet mains, we aren’t getting any new toys
thin stone
Ogryn Gang? more like meatshield
still crater
arctic rampart
builds been pullin some super solid results in auric
16 ammo boxes taken sounds like a problem
oblique sparrow
Did they have duel wielding in Vermintide?
still crater
yes they did
arctic rampart
probably too much damage taken too, maybe you can't recover or get in tough situations more than other builds
ruby hull
16 ammo boxes taken sounds like a problem
we had 3 ammo boxes going into the finale
oblique sparrow
yes they did
Did it have a ranged/melee dueling set
still crater
pistol + rapier for saltzpyre
ruby hull
just spamming nades XP
oblique sparrow
I wonder if we could get a hybrid melee on vet
arctic rampart
you can take (1) grenade regen (2) demolition team (3) crate boxes drop grenades and get like 90% of the value IMO. radius isn't that great and neither is extra nade just keep throwing them whenever you have em
I get it though, that's what u want to do 🙂
still crater
it wasn't really "good" ranged though. It was 95% melee weapon.
short fern
what blessings do people typically bring on shovel
arctic rampart
bonk
still crater
the weapon special attack (like activating the power sword) was a quick, low damage high stagger pistol shot
arctic rampart
what blessings do people typically bring on shovel
check guide pin
oblique sparrow
the weapon special attack (like activating the power sword) was a quick, low dam...
Honestly that still might be cool
arctic rampart
the problem with shovel is that DS4 and knife exist.. and rashad and power sword are the same speed
short fern
check guide pin
thnx
arctic rampart
it does BONK though
ruby hull
you can take (1) grenade regen (2) demolition team (3) crate boxes drop grenades...
oh i changed off of charisma, wasnt sure if it affected demo team or not and traded determination for 30% headshot. and twinned blast is there because i dont really want anything i can reach with that extra point and when it does happen to pop out in a big elite ball its fun to watch the killfeed
arctic rampart
I'm throwing 60 nades per maelstrom just with 2 talents its stupid
someone here turned me onto demo team can't ever go back
ruby hull
yeah demo team just gets more disgusting the higher the dif
and in maelstrom its just broken
arctic rampart
I guess if I were doing smoke grenades for whatever reason I'd use other talents. 10% melee damages!
ruby hull
toss one grenade, get 3 back
somber axle
aight so i finally got my vet grenadier build in order but im intrested in thoug...
My only concern is that the build lacks a solid answer vs Carapace. Bistol TTK without FT/RF, no Carapace perk, or Bring It Down probably takes quite a few shots to put one down, and Crusher packs can get wild in Aurics
But it definitely controls the battlefield vs mixed hordes well with Lethal Proximity Bistol and Shredders
short fern
I never used the shovel because cmon I mean it's a shovel but damn this thing is really good
ruby hull
My only concern is that the build lacks a solid answer vs Carapace. Bistol TTK w...
i love that punture triggers on direct grenade hits for an extra cheeky 4 stacks of bleed XP
arctic rampart
My only concern is that the build lacks a solid answer vs Carapace. Bistol TTK w...
solid comment. maybe try ds4 instead of chain
somber axle
Dueling Sword or Power Sword would be easy pick ups to make Crushers cry but also I know how fun and addictive Chainsword is LOL
arctic rampart
ds4 is ok against horde and with those nades it should be ez
somber axle
My fav melee for fun factor for sure even if it's not as strong as other melee options vs armour/bosses
arctic rampart
you'd be surprised how addictive fun the ds4 is with its speed, dodge distance, and exhilarating options you can take for blessings. I got lost in the choices for a while.
ruby hull
ngl never had issues with carapace. bolt pistol kills crushers fast enough in most cases and i play with other good psyker/zealot buddies so just staggering crushers with nades or knocking them down with voice is more than enough for them to get taken care up. also ive spent 2 years playing with ds4 on psyker, im looking at other options
arctic rampart
even dealing with hordes is fun on ds4 cause u dance so far and so fast.. bring autoswing mod though
somber axle
I've played with the DS4 a bunch when I run an iLas into Aurics but the horde clear feels so weak. At least Vet has Shredders to help offset the weakness on horde clear
I vaguely remember someone running tests vs 100 poxwalkers and found DS4 is one of the slowest clear times while Rashad Axe is #1
arctic rampart
I'm not sure if it changed breakpoints but uncanny strike made it feel a lot easier. maybe cause its a lot better in mixed horde
somber axle
It FEELS good but it's clearing slower vs other options
arctic rampart
its probably about the same time I installed auto swing too so I could concentrate on hitting pox heads instead of pushing left click. I'm older though maybe your fingers are better
somber axle
DS4 is just nice for low talent point investment Carapace/Unyielding
ruby hull
I've played with the DS4 a bunch when I run an iLas into Aurics but the horde cl...
just put rampage/uncanny on it. it hits oneshot breakpoints on basically everything in a horde with lights and with scriers/disrupt psyker its a fucking lawnmower
arctic rampart
power sword 6 could be a good alternative to crusher squads too
I couldn't get rampage to proc reliably on ds4, though that was in the default training damnation horde packs. I went with the crit on dodge instead
somber axle
I do Uncanny/Precog because I mostly use mine for poking down elites tbh (I should probably swap Uncanny to Riposte)
ruby hull
precog is just overkill 99% of the time
somber axle
It's really only there to stab boss faces, kite down Rager packs and shut down Crusher/Mauler packs effectively
arctic rampart
yeah thats like agile too.. I got a mod to track dodge counts and I basically never went below 2 anyway no point in agile
somber axle
Ooo I should do Agile instead of Uncanny
ruby hull
not a chance
somber axle
I go 100% modless because I am boring LOL
arctic rampart
how u live without health bars
errant carbon
Ooo I should do Agile instead of Uncanny
Daily Reminder
ruby hull
your dodge efficiency on the ds4 is so stupid good that agile doesnt end up adding much and just takes away from damage
somber axle
how u live without health bars
Easy! I've never lived with them so it's easy to never become attached to them
arctic rampart
you've gone to the training room so thats a lie
broken spade
agile rots the mind
arctic rampart
uncanny / precog / riposte / rampage are the ds4 best options prolly
somber axle
Daily Reminder
Infinite dodge is fun but even without it I really love leading a parade on a long kite fest across the upper stands of that carnival map
arctic rampart
yeah get at least 1 sprint effic and +3 stam (and +1 stam from near top of tree)
outrun that puke zealot spamming vacuum capsule
somber axle
I do 3 sprint efficiency, 3 stam regen, 2 toughness, 1 sniper, get the +1 Stam under confirmed kill, put +2 Stam on knife and go zooming
somber axle
I've been bouncing back and forth between my iLas build, Helbore build, Recon Mk XIV build and Recon Mk VIc build
somber axle
but with 200+ toughness u can tank a sniper
Nah it's the HP breakpoint thing
arctic rampart
I cant ever drop 3x ability cooldown because pushing voice is too good
especially to kill bursters with voice of command is the chef kiss
somber axle
Because catching a sniper shot to the back of the head suuuucks and sometimes you don't know they are even there until it is too late
arctic rampart
Awesome are those buttons on the right hypertext?
hollow ibex
that table of contents is going to be a beast lol
tall torrent
that table of contents is going to be a beast lol
there're 56 sections for Veteran's 56 weapons
tall torrent
Awesome are those buttons on the right hypertext?
steam guide navigation
good news
steam guide version will be really fucking in-depth with each weapon
bad news
steam guide will have like a bajillion sections which can make navigation difficult (every weapon variant has its own section)
hollow ibex
there're 56 sections for Veteran's 56 weapons
is there a limit on sections lol
i hope not
tall torrent
is there a limit on sections lol
no
some dude went 300+ and was fine
I don't think I'll have 300+
orchid hemlock
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1311170135909728337/De...
Ogrynomicon is shaking in their boots
tall torrent
prob somewhere like 100+
hollow ibex
it's dumb that there's a word limit per section to begin with anyway
tall torrent
the biggest problem so far are
8k characters per section
it's not a word count limit
it's a character count limit
hollow ibex
oh even worse
tall torrent
every image I insert looks like this
[previewimg=38644721;sizeOriginal,floatLeft;radar plasma mk2.png][/previewimg]
arctic rampart
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1311170135909728337/De...
how do I access this? steam darktide guides kind of search bring me to lots of guides but whats yours named
tall torrent
so the more images I add the more character limit I use
arctic rampart
I'll try to upvote it etc
tall torrent
how do I access this? `steam darktide guides` kind of search bring me to lots o...
it's WIP unreleased
hollow ibex
[previewimg=38644721;sizeOriginal,floatLeft;radar plasma mk2.png][/previewimg]
is that.... bb code? 🤮
arctic rampart
cool, take your time. I just wanted to help by like and subscribing
tall torrent
I also got gifs working
that's the other major limitation
I can only upload images of 2mb max
arctic rampart
secret donkey porn embed slows things down
queen fox
secret donkey porn embed slows things down
Perish
tall torrent
I scrapped the dedicated "major stagger breakpoints" section for steam guide port
instead it'll be included in every weapon's own section
fatshark game moment
grand perch
Daily Reminder
This meme won't stop me cause I can't read
tall torrent
did u see the illisi oneshot?
ya
broken spade
it scales so much better than i was expecting
rigid schooner
Currently trying to roll a proper plasma gun (I'm broke)
pale pecan
What is the point of Cavalcade on the Bolter when Bolter crits suck
The fact that some weapons get basically no bonus from having a crit feels bad
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What is the point of Cavalcade on the Bolter when Bolter crits suck
They don’t suck
Boltgun has pretty good finesse
Surgical is not a bad choice if you don’t run exe stance (crit bodyshot 1 taps are cool)
pale pecan
Boltgun has pretty good finesse
I'm missing something then
narrow frost
your shots?
broken spade
They buffed bolter finesse ages ago
pale pecan
Well maybe I've been under a rock then
pale pecan
They buffed bolter finesse ages ago
Okay wow they did, I thought it was still the same BS where a crit did the same dmg as weakspot hit, and a crit weakspot only tacked on like 100 extra damage
I was curious as to why a friend was running Surgical on the Bolter but I see it now
broken spade
yeah you're probably remembering an older version
pale pecan
My B
broken spade
cause yeah it used to be a lot worse at crits
round geyser
this update is gonna be a complete snooze fest for us vets
hollow ibex
now it's a DMR that can also turn into a full auto grenade launcher
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this update is gonna be a complete snooze fest for us vets
Nah
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Nah
If a single older weapon gets buffed to be strong, fun & interesting, I’m happy
Veteran already has 56 weapons (highest of any class) rn
hollow ibex
SAP meta again when
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I’d rather more of them be good
hollow ibex
Veteran already has 56 weapons (highest of any class) rn
yeah this is why i'm not too bothered about vet not getting more stuff
round geyser
just give us vets the Hot-Shot Lasgun and i'll be happy as a pig in shit
hollow ibex
it's also an excuse to play bonker more
tall torrent
I want shock mauls to be better
round geyser
seriously Hot-Shot Lasgun thats all i want for vet
tall torrent
Next year maybe
round geyser
i'm sure every vet here wants the Hot-Shot Lasgun to be added
elder fiber
nah idgaf
round geyser
i mean if the Hot-Shot Lasgun took up both the backpack slot and weapon that be awesome
gritty mural
I hope them making backpack weapons is the reason they're holding out on veterans this update
radiant chasm
What is the point of Cavalcade on the Bolter when Bolter crits suck
they don't
they rebalanced bolter to be a finesse weapon a long time ago
junior grail
i mean if the Hot-Shot Lasgun took up both the backpack slot and weapon that be ...
A Twinlinked Stubber in lasgun form
round geyser
A Twinlinked Stubber in lasgun form
no just no
ancient path
so inbetween infantry las and vigilant autoguns -- why would you use a vigilant autogun?
over an infantry las
queen fox
Semiauto vigilant does more dmg per shot and has similar shots in a mag to kantrael 7 or w/e one was high dmg
queen fox
Yeah that one
pale pecan
they rebalanced bolter to be a finesse weapon a long time ago
I didn't notice, after seeing how bad it was I didn't look back
queen fox
I didn't notice, after seeing how bad it was I didn't look back
Skill issue, click heads more
pale pecan
Lol
I don't think I will be playing that style personally though
I still prefer the metal storm meta
radiant chasm
so inbetween infantry las and vigilant autoguns -- why would you use a vigilant ...
3 round burst synergies extremely well with headhunter blessing
ancient path
Semiauto vigilant does more dmg per shot and has similar shots in a mag to kantr...
also is it similar? my graia mk 7 only has 20 bullets in the mag. kantrael lasgun has 35 shots and i can also go shock troop
ancient path
3 round burst synergies extremely well with headhunter blessing
ive been using the single shot one. three round burst is a better fit?
pale pecan
I like them both
radiant chasm
All 3 bullets crit, but for the purpose of headhunter blessing, the last two will still count up the blessing so you’ll have a permanent 40% crit chance
radiant chasm
ive been using the single shot one. three round burst is a better fit?
Both are good
pale pecan
The only one I won't use is the 2 burst
ancient path
i see.
pale pecan
I just dislike it
radiant chasm
2 round burst is fine now i just dont care for it
pale pecan
You can work with it sure
ancient path
just playing with infantry las makes me feel like they both kinda do the same thing but autogun is worst because no shock troop
pale pecan
I just don't like it lol
analog yacht
vigilant autoguns gotta do way more damage to feel worth using for me
ancient path
vigilant autoguns gotta do way more damage to feel worth using for me
pretty much yea
radiant chasm
just playing with infantry las makes me feel like they both kinda do the same th...
Or think of it this way, lasguns have to grab shocktroop, autoguns can put points elsewhere
pale pecan
^
queen fox
also is it similar? my graia mk 7 only has 20 bullets in the mag. kantrael lasgu...
Pretty sure autogun does significantly more finesse dmg than infantry las
Wrong reply but yeah
radiant chasm
Outside of no ammo maelstroms, it isn’t like vet is downbad for ammo
analog yacht
part of it is that the revolver is the way it is but even if they nerfed revolver into the ground it doesn't make the relative sluggishness of the vautoguns worth it
ancient path
Or think of it this way, lasguns have to grab shocktroop, autoguns can put point...
fair. but its also the case of 20 in the mag for my graia vs shocktroop + 35 in the ... battery pack?
radiant chasm
fair. but its also the case of 20 in the mag for my graia vs shocktroop + 35 in ...
Use numbers cause they just changed the names
Or well, maybe not even numbers
Fuck fatshark
queen fox
1burst 2burst 3burst
radiant chasm
More damage, and has surgical iirc
ancient path
granted my roll only has 61% ammo but i dont think it matters that much
analog yacht
ilas got left behind in the blessing buffs for sure
radiant chasm
That doesn’t account for adms
ancient path
That doesn’t account for adms
adms?
queen fox
lasgun does more damage, though?
Check attack breakdowns, vigilant does much more headshot and crit dmg
radiant chasm
Finesse damage as well
analog yacht
I think path's stat charts convey it pretty well for vauto:
ancient path
ah yeah i see the damage diffs now
queen fox
I take headhunter because I get the crit faster
radiant chasm
That’s another thing, inflas doesn’t have surgical and it’s opening salvo reset time is worse
ancient path
damn shit damage on ilas carapace 
radiant chasm
I take headhunter because I get the crit faster
Surgical guarantees crit especially when you have other sources
Like recip
Headhunter surgical just feels like overkill
queen fox
So does headhunter+da, I get a guaranteed crit every 3 shots minimum
No waiting for surgical
I hate the waiting I could use that time to deal dmg
That's why headhunter is better
Surgical might be better on paper but headhunter is in practice
queen fox
Yes
radiant chasm
Im just using mk3
queen fox
It's still better than surgical on dmr
radiant chasm
I have crit chance mod and have the timings down pretty well with the bonus crit chance i get from talents as well
And like
You dont have to wait everytime
It’s like always full charging your helbore or plasma
queen fox
But you could be using that time to deal dmg and guarantee your next shot is a crit
radiant chasm
You only need to wait for surgical if you need the breakpoint
radiant chasm
But you could be using that time to deal dmg and guarantee your next shot is a c...
Or just know what you onetap with and without a crit
queen fox
Waiting for a crit before shooting something is stupid when you could shoot it to get crits
radiant chasm
Waiting for a crit before shooting something is stupid when you could shoot it t...
Except that’s 2x more ammo
queen fox
Waiting while ads to get a crit is dumb and almost always worse than shooting them to get the crit
Or their friends
radiant chasm
Plus headhunter resets on crit so why not just go headhunter DA
queen fox
Plus headhunter resets on crit so why not just go headhunter DA
I said headhunter da
radiant chasm
Waiting while ads to get a crit is dumb and almost always worse than shooting th...
The wait is barely anything
ancient path
do people play with marksman for executioner stance?
radiant chasm
I spend most of my time ads when im bouncing target to target
ancient path
10s is cool but youre in exe stance for so long lol
radiant chasm
And with recip+ vets base crit chance surgical partial charges me to 100% easily if i need it
queen fox
What is vets base crit chance
radiant chasm
I have 100% control over the ammo i spend
Did they nerf it to 5% base? Or am i going crazy
Also gameslantern sucks on mobile
So many popup ads
queen fox
I have no idea I thought weapons had base crit values, not classes
radiant chasm
Ahh psyker has the 7.5%
cobalt crest
And ogryn s is lower than 5 but idk what
radiant chasm
Does the mk7 vig have any crit chance base
cobalt crest
Idk I've never tried burst autoguns
radiant chasm
Also just another thing, vigilants fire much faster than inflas
If you are spam clicking
I need to get off my bumfuck bistol nade build
dry cloak
Graia vigilabtbis your go to
queen fox
And they have a much tighter spread w/o ads
radiant chasm
And go back to playing other guns
radiant chasm
And they have a much tighter spread w/o ads
They fixed that
queen fox
No, they still do
radiant chasm
Same sway/recoil ads or not
queen fox
Graia does
radiant chasm
That’s just the irons moving
But i have the dot in the middle of my screen
So 
Im lookin at mk7s stats rn
I can see it feeling worse in ads
And i remember when it used to be worse
queen fox
No, non ads spread is lower on burst auto than most other weapons, certainly smaller than infantry lasguns
radiant chasm
No, non ads spread is lower on burst auto than most other weapons, certainly sma...
What
These aren’t brautos
ADS and standing still is no longer borked
Giving you more sway and recoil
I remember that dark time with the headhunter rifles
radiant chasm
It’s not on the DMR
queen fox
It was last week
radiant chasm
And im fairly certain not on the burst fires either after the last pass they did
They can easily feel worse, i get that, the irons are terrible when ads’d until you force yourself to use them
Gameslantern is a bitch ass website on mobile wtf
Full screen ad every page
radiant chasm
I use full auto mod to save my fingers with mk3 if i need to chain hits on a bigger target or blast down a hallway
red laurel
Is Consecrating worth over than Empowering my Infantry Autogun? If so, are any blessing a must on it?
radiant chasm
Is Consecrating worth over than Empowering my Infantry Autogun? If so, are any b...
You should consecrate then empower always and slap on a blessing even if it’s t1
red laurel
Oh yeah, I should also ask about Perks
stoic thorn
Me omw to hard carry a bunch of intellectually failing rejects (I got stuck in a trapper net and we lost)
radiant chasm
Infantry autoguns like dum dum, and your choice of deathspitter, fire frenzy, hit and run
radiant chasm
Oh yeah, I should also ask about Perks
Flakiac is always safe
Until you start worrying about specific ttks (time to kill)
red laurel
What else?
stoic thorn
Why am I always given the fools smh
radiant chasm
Why am I always given the fools smh
Big e gives his strongest soldiers the toughest battles
dry cloak
What else?
Use try which one suits you best. Youve got 3 to choose from
radiant chasm
😔
red laurel
Use try which one suits you best. Youve got 3 to choose from
That would be true for melee weapons
radiant chasm
Infantry auto is pretty simple just dum dum plus 1
radiant chasm
Everyone* praisies vraks mk5 and i dont like it
Kicks like a mule but it hits like one too so
dry cloak
Vraks mk5 has such damage because of crits
Its the peashooter of the 3
Youre thinking of agrip infatry autogun
radiant chasm
Isn’t that the now columnus being the pea shooter?
stoic thorn
I am going to start TWEAKING if I get paired with more tards
radiant chasm
Agri hits hard and has cleave
Vraks is insane first target dps
And columnus (formerly graia) is just cringe
radiant chasm
I dont think so
Used it day one of the crafting update and felt so much worse than vraks formerly columnus
radiant chasm
I still use the agri sometimes 😤
dry cloak
Thats my theory
radiant chasm
No other one
Not two
Graialumnus has felt bad for years now and the crafting update didn’t win me over
dry cloak
After i do my ogryn contracts vet it is
signal cypress
dry cloak
I still dont know why people kum over vraks mk5 its not that good imo
dry cloak
Im baiting you
radiant chasm
Even after the crit chain nerf it’s still the top
radiant chasm
Im baiting you<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Please hold
radiant chasm
dawn valve
what would be the best talent build for double barrel and a power sword?
wanna try something new
dry cloak
radiant chasm
what would be the best talent build for double barrel and a power sword?
Weapon specialist
dawn valve
Weapon specialist
anything specific or just the full weapon specialist tree?
dry cloak
Alright we insulted eachother. Conversation may continue as normal
dry cloak
anything specific or just the full weapon specialist tree?
Go infiltrate with kraks
radiant chasm
anything specific or just the full weapon specialist tree?
Basically yea, i wouldn’t grab smoke nades but agile engagement is a must
You can go shout or stealth
dry cloak
Also both barrels is a fun bleasing
radiant chasm
More like cringe blessing, manstopper flechette rise up
All my reloading is done by weapon spec
dry cloak
I use manstopper and both barrels
radiant chasm
dry cloak
For me fun is more important than optimized stats
dry cloak
Im weapon animation coneseur
And best animation in game is aiming kickbavk/rumbler
And i may have deserted borówka camp for karsolas camp
dawn valve
what's the max amount of ammo a double barrel can have in reserves?
austere mica
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1311208305619636284/De...
Do you know how much total mastery xp it takes to level a weapon from zero
austere mica
Unfortunate
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I maxed every weapon day1 cuz I collected almost every blessing before U&L
I never had the chance to check
austere mica
Trying to find a price range for instamaxing the PGS
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earnest bone
I maxed every weapon day1 cuz I collected almost every blessing before U&L
i just purchased psykers and ogryns stuff from brunt and that was enough for everything 20
tho i dont play those
austere mica
i just purchased psykers and ogryns stuff from brunt and that was enough for eve...
Some of us are broke bitches who need to see if we can afford shit like this
earnest bone
Some of us are broke bitches who need to see if we can afford shit like this
you want to sacri it to 20?
i never got that opportunity to test it
austere mica
you want to sacri it to 20?
PGS on the 3rd
I just need to know how much Xp it is total
I am capable of middle school level math
earnest bone
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what's PGS
earnest bone
power(ed) greatsword?
austere mica
what's PGS
Power Great Sword
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Power Great Sword
dw it's gonna be easy anyway
austere mica
I just want it done instantly
tall torrent
also they're calling it relic blade so I'll be calling it relic blade
much cooler name
hallow drift
Some of us are broke bitches who need to see if we can afford shit like this
I talked so much shit and now I’m one of you
tall torrent
I just want it done instantly
how much plasteel & dockets u got
austere mica
Not enough
Probably less than 100k dockets
I spend constantly
17k plasteel though
tall torrent
I spend constantly
what did u craft lol
grand perch
optimal tea set for post mission tea parties
austere mica
I still need a zealot bolter and I just finished with my fuckin uhhh
HHA
That’s what it was
stoic thorn
I be dodging a trappers net but the poxie next to me
grand perch
god roll meaning the usual 60 dump stat?
tall torrent
I don't have that many hrs
tall torrent
god roll meaning the usual 60 dump stat?
achlys axe can 2 tap crushers btw
austere mica
The fuck
tall torrent
austere mica
Oh I thought you meant relative
grand perch
not a lot he says with 1k hrs more than me
austere mica
I'm at like 2.7k hrs on DT
Bets on how much of that is in psyk?
grand perch
achlys axe can 2 tap crushers btw
too bad its godawful sitll
tall torrent
not much
tall torrent
too bad its godawful sitll
it actually hits a ton of elite breakpoints
grand perch
yeah maybe but ive had a got at achlys for like a dozen times, never worked out
tall torrent
it kills crushers & maulers the fastest compared to the other 2 axes
earnest bone
achlys axe can 2 tap crushers btw
achlys entire section can be replaced with
- Please use Rashad
and Antax one with: - Just use Rashad
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achlys entire section can be replaced with
- Please use Rashad
and Antax one wi...
watch the vid I sent above
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1311208305619636284/De...
.
austere mica
I wonder on what the initial reception of that port of your guide is going to be
Knowing the
Tendencies
austere mica
Of the steam discussions users
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I wonder on what the initial reception of that port of your guide is going to be
I won't rly care
austere mica
I figured
tall torrent
cool if people appreciate it
austere mica
But I’m just curious for my self
tall torrent
whatever if people don't like it
stoic thorn
I keep dying to trappers because of enemies blocking my dodge smh
earnest bone
I wonder on what the initial reception of that port of your guide is going to be
i dont expect steamforums people to read, but im sure it will help a lot of people
austere mica
1 “SM when?!?!??” Comment a day keeps Fatshark away
earnest bone
WHY VET DIDNT GET ANY NEU WIPONZ
austere mica
Explode
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Wait you mean steam not the guide
yea
I'm not gonna be updating the word guide much now
austere mica
I don’t really care that much I am just going to using my downloaded copy forever
tall torrent
cuz steam port will just be significantly more detailed
tall torrent
I don’t really care that much I am just going to using my downloaded copy foreve...
look at the combat axe section for details
also I changed a bunch of recommendations
cuz steam format is sorta easier to work with in a way
austere mica
look at the combat axe section for details
Horrific
tall torrent
in word document I was cutting stuff a lot to squish everything into 1 page
austere mica
I wonder how thick this would be as a book (probably not that much)
tall torrent
in steam guide I can put a lot of stuff in 1 section
breakpoints
talent choices
mobility stats
exact move profiles
all in there
each weapon gets its own section
austere mica
I think you would be able to print this hardcover
tall torrent
shame steam version has no offline mode i think
austere mica
Yeah
tall torrent
it's whatever
earnest bone
shame steam version has no offline mode i think
you cant play the game offline either way
so not a big deal
i forgot, but i think vt1/vt2 was playable offline
stoic thorn
Me watching as my teammates have full clips (I have 3 bolt rounds left to my name)
Me watching as saving the ps*ker from capitivity ends up with my death 30 seconds later
Why am I always paired with the tards
2 fucking medpacks down before we entered the deep archives
stoic thorn
What the hell am I doing wrong???
Like I'm killing a lot of shit
The most shit most of the time
dry cloak
Thx
stoic thorn
Back hurting because of how hard I be carrying these pubtards
grand perch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1311208305619636284/De...
I AGREE
stoic thorn
Never fucking helping up a smyker ever again
Or anyone with the boxes for names
Because most of the time they're China Chinese and I don't trust them with anything
They'll be stealing all the fucking ammo
dry cloak
Yesterday played with a friend. We carried all the games
Rest were newbies so ita excusable
stoic thorn
Is heresy just filled with idiots
dry cloak
Heresy is harder than damnation ironically
stoic thorn
Too ass for auric, too spiteful of the chinese in regular
I'm starting to like weapon specialist tbh
tall torrent
Too ass for auric, too spiteful of the chinese in regular
get a friend and play duos to improve, idk
dry cloak
I'm starting to like weapon specialist tbh
Good
earnest bone
Heresy is harder than damnation ironically
Heresy is a fun dumpster, i leveled Psyker and Ogryn there for the lols
hidden torrent
the Auric missions that aren't maelstrom are filled with objectively bad and toxic players, about 75 percent of the time
That's where you'll find your boys
red laurel
What Blessings are good on Devil's Claw swords?
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What Blessings are good on Devil's Claw swords?
Rampage + shred
austere mica
Whats a Good Build for my Veteran
Don’t worry about builds till level 30
warm vortex
Okay
austere mica
Just play with whatever weapons and find what you like
warm vortex
Whats a Good Early Game gun i should look out for
austere mica
Builds really don’t matter until you have all your points to play with
austere mica
Whats a Good Early Game gun i should look out for
Everything is kinda anemic early game so just experiment
merry coral
same answer for guns tbh, you'll receive new guns when lvling and finishing mission, experiment yeah
I forgot that the early access is today for ps5
warm vortex
Yeah i did play it on my Friends Xbox for a bit and well it was great
Horde Shooters are my type of Game
dry cloak
Dt is partial horde shooter
warm vortex
And getting to Play as a regular joe seems cooler then as a Space Marine
dry cloak
Melee is IMPORTANT
tall torrent
Whats a Good Early Game gun i should look out for
Infantry autogun, Vraks Mk V
But really practice melee
dry cloak
Melee is arguably importanter than shooting accurately
hidden torrent
Melee is arguably importanter than shooting accurately
Melee is a lot more important I don't even think anyone could argue a case
dry cloak
Melee is a lot more important I don't even think anyone could argue a case
Gluggers
hidden torrent
7 down glugger gameplay
somber axle
There's a funny Recon Mk XII build that you can spend the entire match on your ranged weapon and never run out of ammo but even still sometimes it's just better to melee
grand perch
7 down glugger gameplay
Tubthumping is now playing
hidden torrent
There's a funny Recon Mk XII build that you can spend the entire match on your r...
Why you always got to use fighting words
Real talk anytime I've seen a glugger go only ranged, they do not very much damage because they're always down
somber axle
It's a funny way to play but just because you can ignore melee doesn't mean you should LOL
rigid schooner
Gluggers<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
i once had a game with two gluggers, one with the rumbler the other witha ripper
nobody had ammo
somber axle
Ogryns are another story tbh
If an Ogryn is spending the entire match on their gun then they're going to be eating all the ammo they can reach
hidden torrent
It's also, objectively just as boring as smite
might as well play a mobile tycoon game
rigid schooner
i once played a glugger rumbler with three psykers, and we found both ammo crates.
it was a very fun mission
hidden torrent
The real question is, should I join a sedition lobby, dripped out, to flex on ps5 players
I feel like a Dripped out Ogryn is more noticeable than vet ngl
hidden torrent
Zealot drip looks trash imo
99% of it
Hot take I know
Most zealots are just gimps anyway
dry cloak
I feel like a Dripped out Ogryn is more noticeable than vet ngl
Ogryn is rather hard to miss
hidden torrent
My Ogryn drip is also stellar
Maaaaan aint no one playing sedition, who am I gonna kiss now
warm vortex
Melee is IMPORTANT
Well where do i get myself a good Shovel
rigid schooner
I feel like a Dripped out Ogryn is more noticeable than vet ngl
you could also try hobomaxxing
build the most disgusting looking loadout you can
remote sonnet
I finally met a braindead plasma spammer vet. Dude almost never used his melee and died 6 times to plasma overheat...
junior grail
If Psyker gets Plasma Pistol...
rigid schooner
man, i can't get the plasma gun to overheat if i try
is it just through the RMB charge up?
torpid sundial
been running the double barelled shotgun recently and its been a ton of fun
dry cloak
Doom ssg
torpid sundial
Fast swap speed too
So you can melee a bit, swap, shoot, return to melee, repeat
No reloads needed
Feels so smooth
torpid sundial
Doom ssg
Now if only it one shots crushers if you point it up its ass
I can get it to one shot maulers if it was stacked enough with power buffs but it aint for crushers
So I’m using the chainaxe to compensate
dry cloak
Borh barrels ia still my favourite blessi g
torpid sundial
Ive been running both crit blessings
dry cloak
So I’m using the chainaxe to compensate
Combat axe, power sword, chain sword fill that niche
torpid sundial
I should try another build
junior grail
How does one play Double Barrel Vet?
Is it a very aggressive playstyle?
torpid sundial
Yeah basically melee
dry cloak
Weapon spec
hidden torrent
I basically just play melee vet
junior grail
I assume Shout?
junior grail
Hmmmmmm interesting
junior grail
I like double infiltrate
dry cloak
I.e always having a safety net
tall torrent
Infiltrate is the way
Infiltrate point tax be taxing
dry cloak
Infiltrate point tax be taxing
I dont feel it.
hidden torrent
Only use VOC if you competent, in reality you should only use VOC maybe 3 times a game
dry cloak
What weapons are u using
Antax/power sword plus any shotgun
tall torrent
Infiltrate is like flat 2 point higher cost than other builds
torpid sundial
I use chainaxe because chainaxe is cool
hidden torrent
I use rashad/zarona because it's fun
tall torrent
Antax/power sword plus any shotgun
Oh shotgun, yea
dry cloak
Oh shotgun, yea
So yeah my horde clear is not bad
dry cloak
I tried the shotgun with the fire special
Combat shotties are rather bad at the moment
dry cloak
Shotguns are shitty against armor
torpid sundial
Double barelled is like the ogryn kickback
Very satisfying
Unloading it into a horde and seeing the splatter of blood from 20+ mobs
dry cloak
Also manstopper is mandatory on shotguns
torpid sundial
I run scattershot/manstopper, thought of fletchette/scatter but its kinda useless since enemies are gonna die anyways
dry cloak
If youre running weapon spec you dont need scatterahot
remote sonnet
I run DB barrel with Hit n Run and Run n Blessing
The 1 sec immunity is quite huge vs gunners
1 sec ranged immunity*
merry coral
but but but but manstopper
remote sonnet
With WS, you can spring, shot, melee (to reload), then rotate again and basically immune to random ranged bullshit.
torpid sundial
If youre running weapon spec you dont need scatterahot
I totally forgot you get critc with ranged spec stacks
remote sonnet
- Manic, you can 1 hit rager with single shot
And doesn't matter what you try, you won't be able to kill crusher, so I think crit is kind of a waste on DB shotgun.
merry coral
Crits are super useful when using manstopper to cleave an entire horde
remote sonnet
Is it just me or Auric Maelstrom is so easy lately?
I rant a few games pub and other people feel the same
I was also using some random weapons like DB, DClaw, shovels, etc.
fringe lake
what exactly is the difference between hip firing and bracing when using a braced autogun
as in just using lmb compared to rmb
marsh condor
Crazy how only the Veteran's not getting any new weapons.
pseudo fiber
what exactly is the difference between hip firing and bracing when using a brace...
Some have a fire rate increase
remote sonnet
Higher rof, tighter spray, slower movement
marsh condor
So, I am assuming that Veterans will get a new ranged weapon.
remote sonnet
If you spray lmb, after 3 seconds, you might have difficulty to hit anything beyond 7m
pseudo fiber
So, I am assuming that Veterans will get a new ranged weapon.
No clue. New something.
somber adder
Only use VOC if you competent, in reality you should only use VOC maybe 3 times ...
This might just be the worst take I've seen in this channel so far
merry coral
Just don't use your ability
hidden torrent
This might just be the worst take I've seen in this channel so far
If you're clutching on VOC to do well then that's a skill issue
hidden torrent
Yeah honestly
somber adder
I agree it is too strong and that it's a crutch but saying you shouldn't use it, like ever is braindamage
hidden torrent
You don't even really need it tbh
merry coral
take out the key from your keyboard
somber adder
Just play hands off, skill issue honestly
merry coral
etc etc anyway, just use your damn ability whenever you want
somber adder
Force the funny guy on screen to move with your mind
hidden torrent
I agree it is too strong and that it's a crutch but saying you shouldn't use it,...
That's because you don't know why I was saying it, to use it as a crutch just makes you bad, so if you seldom use it and don't crutch on it and instead learn to play around it, when you use it you'll be fine
It's not really a complex line of thought
But yeah if you want to only spam F, go for it, it's just a game afterall
somber adder
That's because you don't know why I was saying it, to use it as a crutch just ma...
Not what you said. You said "Only use VOC if you competent, in reality you should only use VOC maybe 3 times a game".
So you said the ability that gives your whole team damage immunity that is on a 3-10 second cooldown should only be used 3 times per game which is just nonsense. Keep in mind, I agree that it is overtuned and a crutch for a lot of people. Had a personal detox period where I had to uncrutch from VoC myself.
But saying if you're good you never use the button that makes good things happen is just straight up wrong.
Vet's talent tree and playstyle lends itself perfectly to spam abilities on higher difficulties
hidden torrent
Not what you said. You said "Only use VOC if you competent, in reality you shoul...
Rarely do I find myself in a position where it's warranted to actually use it to be honest. There is seldom a situation as vet where I feel really any pressure that I might not be able to handle something or need space to be frank. Vet just does too much damage too fast
Generally the only time I actually use it is if my team is incapable of caring for themselves at some point, that's just being candid
warm vortex
Does the Buff get Weaker each time used in a round or why is it that saying Spamming Buffs is stupid and for Bad Players
hidden torrent
But yeah, i guess you're right vacuosly. But in reality what I said earlier can just be summarized as "don't crutch on VOC if you use it, the less you use it the more you'll learn" was in essence of what I meant
hidden torrent
Does the Buff get Weaker each time used in a round or why is it that saying Spam...
No, it's bad because it let's you get away with doing almost anything you want. You don't need to learn timing or really much of anything it reinforces bad habits by not allowing you to be punished for them
warm vortex
No, it's bad because it let's you get away with doing almost anything you want. ...
Ah so dont rely to much on it but still use it when needed
hidden torrent
Yes, but as a new player, when it's needed is more often than it should be was my original point, with good dodging and a good build, you really don't even need VOC and could easily play without an ability at all, was my original point
And it's not really too hard to get to that point, vet is a very strong class
warm vortex
Someone told me that there is no reason for a Build until Lvl 30
But i probably wont have to worry to much about it since i just got the Game myself for PS5
untold mulch
Someone told me that there is no reason for a Build until Lvl 30
eh, you can do parts of one in the way
to see what one digs and what doesn't
warm vortex
Ah okay
untold mulch
it doesnt cost anything to rebuild
warm vortex
Can you redo the skills like in Payday 2 or how does that work
untold mulch
except maybe some toime
untold mulch
Can you redo the skills like in Payday 2 or how does that work
you can at any time in the ship
just unclick the nodes
for free
warm vortex
So like Payday2
untold mulch
Yes
pseudo fiber
Or hit a button to reset all yeah
untold mulch
tho, all here are 1point
warm vortex
Good to know
warm vortex
Btw Cadia is a selectable Option for Veteran right?
untold mulch
for all I think, but Veteran has a specific personality/voice lines for it
untold mulch
Cutthroat
hidden torrent
Sad that Cadian Ogryns didn't have explicit lines
warm vortex
Cant wait to get home