veteran-class

[wooden cedar]

so it looks much worse on paper

[frank basin]

You’re hiding your nationality

Is that correct?

[stoic thorn]

TIME TO PLAY WITH AMERICANS RAAAH

LETS SEE IF THESE LARDASSES ARE BETTER THAN THE CHINESE

[orchid nova]

Perchance

[slow sky]

like some sort of cranial damage related buff?

[wooden cedar]

goes even higher with can opener, 1000 unbuffed

[frank basin]

Why you said you’re ashamed to be mainlander?

[orchid nova]

in any case again, I find the Power Sword actually more interesting than most weapons

[orchid nova]

Shit they're onto me

[slow sky]

i love my -20% dodge distance

[frank basin]

Don’t worry, I won’t bite

[white minnow]

brick wall

[slow sky]

[earnest bone]

Barreling M1 psyker:
HEY BRO WHAT DID YOU DO THAT?
DID YOU DO THAT CUZ IM BLACK PSYKER?
Tho, idk, did you guys saw all the goofy korean darktide builds

those are hilarious

[frank basin]

Real Asian robot

[slow sky]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-sucks-crying-girl-tears-of-joy-clapping-danny-devito-gif-12766761978490409957

[orchid nova]

The added idle phase in which you have to shake the stupid thing to turn it back on gives it a bit of a different tempo than most weapons

where it's just chambering attack after attack, with the occasional weapon that block cancels at most

[frank basin]

He moved to TFD content iirc is been while

[slow sky]

ok now i know we're not playing the same game

[earnest bone]

tfd is now the same as darktide

[frank basin]

Lmao

[orchid nova]

Makes for a fun change of pace after using stuff like Cleave, Paul, and Shield

[earnest bone]

they lost it pretty hard

in just a few months

[tall torrent]

they kind of are
it's just that they mostly do the same exact combo and only do the PA combo against a few enemies

[slow sky]

the exact same combo being heavies only

[tall torrent]

that's for mk3

[frank basin]

Because how shitty grinding is I can’t stand 2% transcended mod if they don’t implement trading

[slow sky]

true
lights only for the mk6

[faint beacon]

heavies only for Mk3

[earnest bone]

w8, there's no trading indeed

that's the best part of Warframe

[faint beacon]

sprinkle a bit of PA's in there for good measure

[tall torrent]

mk6 is SP > BC > sL1 > sL2 > sL3 repeat until u or every enemy near u is dead

[frank basin]

Sorry I had 1,500 hours on it got bored

[heavy bridge]

feeling kinda the siren song of the yee haw pistol. What's a good melee wep to pair with Agri Revolver?

[tall torrent]

nah, PA is single target

[earnest bone]

i got bored after 800

but it was back in 2018

[tall torrent]

it'd be just push, not going into PA

[earnest bone]

didnt played it after that

[frank basin]

2019

Yeah is a mood swings for the game

[faint beacon]

The occasionaly mauler in the horde-

oh wait you can just

light them

LMAO

[tall torrent]

but power sword push is so bad cuz u lose charge

[frank basin]

With plasma gun 🧌

[tall torrent]

so it's literally 1 combo loop forever while dodging with that -12% dodge distance

[orchid nova]

Yeah true

[tall torrent]

it's monotonous

[orchid nova]

I suppose if you main the class it gets tiring

[grand perch]

I got bored after 200... Minutes

[tall torrent]

combat axe at least mixes PA in because ur light swings don't cleave enough to stagger everything near u

[frank basin]

How many Chinese Darktide player in this discord?

[orchid nova]

but then again I've been maining xsword and bsword in vermintide forever and they just swing into mixed hordes

so

[frank basin]

I feel like 4

[white minnow]

i'm technically chinese but i am so far divorced from the culture that i might as well not be

[frank basin]

And you live in somewhere in west?

[faint beacon]

Its why im like 3% less annoyed with rashad over Power sword but its still being avoided as well

[tall torrent]

combat axe also has a "small" problem of blowing up vs ragers as soon as u get guard broken

[white minnow]

ye i am in NA west

[frank basin]

I feel ya

I’m half Chinese any so

The hong konger part of Chinese

[tall torrent]

my bias is that I do not enjoy melee weapons with strikedown-style PA

besides knife prob

[frank basin]

I’ll probably swap to heavy sword on my plasma loadout

Mobility suck on Ps

[regal belfry]

i hope the update after grim protocol vet gets a new weapon

[orchid nova]

maybe a volley gun?

Bleh

[frank basin]

You know I dream fantasize as heavy machine gunner

[orchid nova]

personally I want to see their take on the Melta

[regal belfry]

we have already burst rifles

[frank basin]

I love to mag dump on horde

[orchid nova]

those are bullpup and therefore heretical

[tall torrent]

backpack problem

[orchid nova]

Also possibly french

[frank basin]

Recon feel like carbine laser

[tall torrent]

longlas might happen

[frank basin]

And braced auto are semi close to machine gun but very shitty accuracy

[orchid nova]

Ratling gun was 2-man served. I think having a cluster of power packs stringed together would be acceptable for gameplay, even by GW

[regal belfry]

i would love a longlas and maybe a buff to helbore that you can swap faster to then

[frank basin]

Maybe next year we gonna have it

The hellgun

[faint beacon]

Ogryn's nabbed our stubber that we could use if its the stubber im thinking off (Gunners use them)

so we wont be getting that either

[orchid nova]

nope

you can already see the heavy stubber model

it's just the twin linked heavy stubber but without the second one

[tall torrent]

No I mean, the so-called “backpack problem” for fatshark is that hotshot lasguns (& volleyguns) require battery backpack feeding and the current backpack slot is cosmetic only

They basically shot themselves in the foot there

[faint beacon]

Unsure what the fuck they'd call it then

Stubber I guess if they eventually gave Vet a belt fed

[frank basin]

I think use pouches ammunition as reload instead backpack

[orchid nova]

Yes and that's why I said they could handwave away a modified version from a different forge world or something

That accepts a bunch of daisy channeled lasgun cells

[regal belfry]

maybe plasma pistol?

[frank basin]

Later for that

[orchid nova]

even possibly a non hot-shot volley gun

like

just a regular volley lasgun or something

[frank basin]

Maybe just set backpack ammo default on back when there’s no cosmetic, if there’s cosmetic just have belt link on the cosmetic backpack

[austere mica]

Feeding ammo from my cage of skulls

[orchid nova]

It's not like hellguns didn't used to be backpack only

[frank basin]

I would love it

[orchid nova]

before helbore and hot shot versions came in

[remote sonnet]

The auto gun are called stubber in 40k lore. Hence the machine gun are called heavy stubber. They use the same ammo in the lore toonI believe.

[regal belfry]

doom dark ages skull shredder shoot heretics with heretics

[orchid nova]

Eh, autogun and stubber are apparently two different kinds of guns

[remote sonnet]

Volkite gun would be something fun and in the lore, it was one used by normal human and could kill SM.

[orchid nova]

It's one of those anal-retentive things that matters more in the tabletop games

[remote sonnet]

And therefore banned to use in the imperial guard to avoid uprising.

[austere mica]

Volkite is way above our pay grade

[regal belfry]

do the scab gunners use volleyguns?

[frank basin]

Just do other player perspective see this illusion belt feed hanging from stubber wielder and the first person stubber user just long chain link they won’t see bottom end.

[orchid nova]

isn't Volkite the custodes microwave gun?

[orchid nova]

yea

[frank basin]

No need backpack for details

[frank basin]

Unless there’s cosmetic they willing selling giving special effect “the belt fed bullet linked to the backpack cosmetic”

[remote sonnet]

Me chaining 5 boxes of 7.62 at the range

[orchid nova]

The standard las has a less silly vowling

[regal belfry]

what do use the reapers and dreg gunners

[frank basin]

Stubber and twin link stubber

[orchid nova]

Twin linked heavy stubber, kitbash of what looks to be a separate barrel and the achlys drum mag

and what I assume to be a heavy stubber of the not-as-heavy variety

stubbers don't have many names beyond stubber, stubgun, stub pistol, and heavy stubber

[regal belfry]

reaper guns feels like achlys with their firerate

[frank basin]

There’s m1911 called stubpistol

Old lexicum website

[stoic thorn]

I remember arguing with someone who said the scabs use regular volley guns (regular volley guns do not exist, it's only the hotshot volleys)

[frank basin]

I imagine what if we deal 10 reaper shooting at us same time

Is a hail fire

[orchid nova]

they don't exist until GW decides they want them to exist

[stoic thorn]

I mean we CAN make regular volley guns

It's called strapping 2 lasguns together

[orchid nova]

also somehow just noticed but is that an ATP mask

[regal belfry]

uses the aegis protocol, be quick shoot them down

[stoic thorn]

Because the Hotshot Volley Gun has 2 barrels

[stoic thorn]

Yes

I'm too lazy to actually change pfp to the point one of my friends drew it and it's my pfp ever since

[orchid nova]

but vet infantry lasguns already come twin linked haha

I named my Ogryn after my Massive lol

[frank basin]

Madness combat fan

[stoic thorn]

We COULD just strap 2 Recon Lasguns together

[remote sonnet]

In 40k lore, there is the "stub revolver"... Which is just a revolver...

[grand perch]

That way tech heresy lies

[remote sonnet]

Stub pretty much means projectile in 40k.

[frank basin]

@stoic thorn ever watch this since your childhood?

[stoic thorn]

I've got a feeling the missing part of the Progenium-Issue backpack is the slot for the Hotshot batteries

[orchid nova]

the alimghty stub revolver

[stoic thorn]

Yeah I think

[frank basin]

Been while now

I feel old

[austere mica]

The missing part of the backpack is a massive ass coil

[orchid nova]

the most powerful weapon in the game

[austere mica]

The little slot is for generic laspacks

[stoic thorn]

Kasrkin Hellguns use that bit for their laspacks

[orchid nova]

it is said that regulations demand stub revolvers only be used on the upper levels of the hive, for risking a direct hit to the planet could have....fatal consequences

[remote sonnet]

So yeah, non heavy stubber is just an auto gun.

[orchid nova]

autoguns are apparently separate

they use fancy caseless ammo or something

[austere mica]

No they don’t

[orchid nova]

not in darktide no

[austere mica]

Terms like stubber or autogun are just slang basically

[remote sonnet]

Like that they once said about bolters...

[orchid nova]

that was the distinction in eisenhorn

[austere mica]

If you look deeper stuff has specific designations

[frank basin]

New design

[orchid nova]

there is a distinction between stubber and autogun

[remote sonnet]

Which is not caseless since the 3rd edition.

[orchid nova]

but it's not very well delineated

[faint beacon]

3th

[stoic thorn]

The Scab Gunners massive ass coil is a non-compact version of the kasrkin laspacks im assuming

Because the actual hellgun batteries aren't in his backpack

[remote sonnet]

Back pain is not service related

[stoic thorn]

So it's a separate system from the Kasrkin Volley Hellguns

[orchid nova]

I'm guessing whatever it is, it's not kaskrkin grade

[frank basin]

Lmao

Why kaskrkin? Are they like super marine soldier?

[stoic thorn]

Kasrkin are the elite cadians

They use the Hellguns a lot

I even have the Kasrkin Kill Team

[frank basin]

Kill team like death squad

[regal belfry]

why have the hellbore rifles so slow swap speed

[stoic thorn]

No

Kill Team is a tabletop game

[frank basin]

I know that

[stoic thorn]

yeah you're right

Those are laspacks

[frank basin]

Should we have some 1/4 size battery on front bellow belly?

It solve problem backpack

[stoic thorn]

WAITER WAITER MORE CONSIGNMENT YARD MUTATED HORRORS

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/mutant-darktide-warhammer-40k-abuse-gif-17199671288688860755

[stoic thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-hak-jabb-gif-892289627481122892

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hakandbobr-darktide-hak-gif-4835721721778289528

[remote sonnet]

I will be anal with you a little bit more for fun.
https://i.imgur.com/Q0KLMOI.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/l2TGBMF.png

Same ammo

[stoic thorn]

WHY IS THE INGAME CHAT STILL DOWN

[frank basin]

Server issue

[austere mica]

Relog

If the game doesn’t place you into a channel relogging fixes it

[umbral scaffold]

Is hope for hotshot still up?

[austere mica]

Probably not

The Backpack Problem

[umbral scaffold]

It could just remove the cosmetic backpack for hotshot backpack for those who use it, simple

[austere mica]

Not really, it’s a slot for potentially paid cosmetics

People might want to use those instead of having the charge backpack

[umbral scaffold]

Does every hellgun has an backpack tho?

[frank basin]

I was thinking having half sized front pack

Like the pouches

[austere mica]

If you want to fire it for more than 2 seconds, usually

[frank basin]

Even hellgun 1/4 battery size

[umbral scaffold]

We have to have a chat with Adeptus Mechanicus

[oak plinth]

I think the Aquillons lore mentions they use power packs with their hellguns for dropping in before connecting it to the backpack

[verbal burrow]

Like them turning every bag inside out and not even helping to pack. Here you don’t even open the bag until you know exactly what you’re looking for. I had US people so terrified of the checkpoint that they started sir yes sirring me like I was R. Lee Ermey

There are still people who think we use metal detectors btw

They will be like “I can’t go through here because I have a pacemaker”

[frank basin]

Does this work?

[austere mica]

Too small

Extremely awkward

[frank basin]

It doesn’t matter if is work is work

[frank ledge]

Don't remind me, I had to explain to airport security why I had a micro usb with a hammer and sickle on it in my pockets

[frank basin]

We not gonna have 2000 rounds for whole game firing

[frank ledge]

[frank basin]

Fs doesn’t want us do that

I wish I want it but is fs protocol

[austere mica]

It does matter when it gets in your way during an intense melee (the entire game)

[frank basin]

Those just cosmetic

[umbral scaffold]

I wonder how are kasrkin effective, those backpacks are like 10kg the lowest 20kg the biggest

[frank basin]

Don’t get too much details

[verbal burrow]

That is irrelevant to their job. We are here for explosives, firearms, stabby weapons and tools that can be used to sabotage the aircraft, and nothing else

[verbal burrow]

They don’t have that attitude problem for one

[austere mica]

Sadly the details matter extremely when the person you get the IP from has a stranglehold on the lore and representation of the lore

[frank ledge]

That micro usb is sharp enough to blind someone

[frank basin]

Yeah you means GW controlling fs weapon design

[austere mica]

They are

Explicitly

[frank basin]

I knew since beginning

[umbral scaffold]

I just wish for some high grade elite weaponry

[frank basin]

I doubted right there for moment

[austere mica]

Too bad, we are still basically a suicide squad

[frank ledge]

Likely why we lack more ogryn 2 handers

[austere mica]

And GW hates fun

[frank basin]

Someone once said sometime Gw give fs creative

Like rumbler and kickback isn’t thing from GW

[umbral scaffold]

Neither is Krieg Ogryn

[frank basin]

Yeah

[umbral scaffold]

Still waiting for that cosmetic btw

[pseudo fiber]

A relic sword is pretty up there
Even if its a "relic" sword

[regal belfry]

you mean the zealot power gs

[remote sonnet]

10kg is very light even by modern combat* backpack.

[dry cloak]

Ogryn weapons weight starts at 10kg

[cloud leaf]

Why when I have 100% crit chance I still use ammo when shooting las weapon

[dry cloak]

If you use deadshot and are out of stamina you dont have 100%

Still if ypu use good lasgun build

[dry cloak]

Do you have shocktrooper in you build

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-my-new-character-gif-2777893510283028272

[cloud leaf]

Yes I have truck trooper I have Dunkin Don and reciprocity I have a last pistol and I have a mod that shows my fridge fan and when I have 100% grip chance it's still uses ammo on my every third shot or something. The only thing I can think of is that talk to her either has a cool down that I don't know about or my crit chance modest line to me

[dry cloak]

Normal

You still are ammo independent

[cloud leaf]

Ivory the wise not infinite ammo with 100% critical chance bro I don't understand The shock trooper has a cool down?

[dry cloak]

No

Crits have cooldown

Crit chains cant be back to back

[regal belfry]

crits have cooldown?

[umbral scaffold]

Huh

[regal belfry]

wtf

first time that i hear that crit has cooldown

[umbral scaffold]

You have a name based on norse mythology wolf and tree of life and yet u using anime pfp, no valhalla for you

[cloud leaf]

Bro that's so f***** up

What's the cool down this is the first time I'm hearing of this. Actually I remember when recon last gun was busted and they made it so the crit only applied to three shots instead of six or whatever

So 100% crip build last gun shock trooper is actually a s*** build because 100% crits doesn't matter cuz you have a cooldown bro this is so bad

[dry cloak]

Its not ahit

And you dont do infinite ammo lasgun build with laspistol

[umbral scaffold]

It's fun to see nerfing stuff like this in a pure pve game, seems like even npcs have feelings now lmao

[dry cloak]

But woth infatry lasgun or recon

[umbral scaffold]

PvE nerfs are warranted

[cloud leaf]

Why though last pistol is the best crit weapon it has in furnace

[umbral scaffold]

This is not Skyrim where you're playing alone and can bully NPCs with console commands

[dry cloak]

If you think its shit go back to plasma shout

[dry cloak]

Its not

Trust me its not

[cloud leaf]

Nah I'll go back to smoke stealth knife revolver because that's the most skillful build

[umbral scaffold]

Pfffffft

Revolver

[cloud leaf]

I mean bolt pistol

[umbral scaffold]

Pffffffft

[cloud leaf]

The new revolver

[umbral scaffold]

Bolt pistol

[cloud leaf]

I know it's not s*** but I want infinite ammo having crits on cooldown is not infinite ammo I still got to pick up f****** ammo bro

[pseudo fiber]

I mean given this is a coop game not a single player one nerfs should be considered.

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-14472008533385386835

I'm thankful Fatshark doesn't listen to people like that

At least not as much as they could

Cry

[dry cloak]

You have infinite ammo because scavenger

[frank basin]

this is funny

[cloud leaf]

Nerfs are good If there were no nerfs everyone would still be running that f****** auto pistol b*******

[grand perch]

where'd you get the info from that crits have cooldown? guide doesnt seem to mention it

[cloud leaf]

Scavenger has a 5-second cooldown it's literally useless now I still use it but I barely even notice it

[dry cloak]

Its not useless

Its still vets best aura

[cloud leaf]

Agreed but it's nowhere near what it used to be. Still not infinite ammo

[umbral scaffold]

It's really that bad for you to pick up some ammo once in a while?

[cloud leaf]

It is when you got zealots with bolters mag dumping into hoards and gun psykers and gun loggers wasting and jogging all of the ammo

[dry cloak]

You seem to not understand one thing. With build you are running even if you shoot 90% without picking up ammo you still will have ammo left

Good glugger has priority on ammo

[umbral scaffold]

Well that is problem of team not build

What diff are you playing?

[cloud leaf]

Oreck damnation maelstrom high intensity shock troop gauntlet mutated horrors

And eventually havoc 40 or whatever the highest is

[umbral scaffold]

Strange to see people like that on damnation

[pseudo fiber]

40 is the highest

[cloud leaf]

It's rare but it happens. I understand the shock trooper crit build still is a lot of ammo but even then I eventually run out and have to pick up a bag and it feels bad man

It's not like I'm only using ranged either

Maybe I do need to go to laz rifle with the efficiency blessing

[umbral scaffold]

Well i have crit build with recon lasgun and powersword, i have to pick ammo quite offten even but it's still fun

[umbral scaffold]

It's not crying, it's having a modicum of concern over the highest difficulty being difficult, and one person not soloing a match for 4 people

Not that I expect an actual answer back, of course

You probably fried your one neuron coming up with the last one

Cry

Okay, maybe you had two neurons

Cry

Oh, he found the neuron lifehack

Cry

[cloud leaf]

what do u think of this build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad594fc-20bc-4e5b-ab47-ad1991742120/bestest-vet-build-ever

[round geyser]

oh well no point in crying over this upcoming update

just gonna have to grin and bear it

[umbral scaffold]

Not really my style but it you are effective with that one and managing to carry your team when shit hits the fan it's all good

[cloud leaf]

u thnik recon is better than las pistol for crit shock troooper??? even wtih crit cooldown?

[umbral scaffold]

Yes

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5bbb40-0ea8-4e00-9c45-a69e5f51f992/recon-lasgun-brain-rot

Try this one

[cloud leaf]

alrgiht ill build a recon and try it out was never a fan of it cuz of all the shitters i see dump ammo into hordes but it could be good

onslaught seems like a must have for recon

[remote sonnet]

Nothing wrong to use it vs horde

[cloud leaf]

mixed hordes sure but poxwalkers bro really?

[remote sonnet]

That's a skill issue

[grand perch]

pretty good but i'd strongly advise taking the 2 points leading to exhilarating takedown and putting them into precision strikes, desperado, demo team or superiority complex

[remote sonnet]

They will still shoot at pox if they use other guns.

[cloud leaf]

tru

[cloud leaf]

yeah thats how i used to have it i dont tihnk i run exhilarating takedown anymore

ever since it was revealed to actually cause u to be weaker xD

[verbal burrow]

Cursed

[verbal burrow]

It doesn’t hook into the talents that buff krak grenades and make them infinite

[stoic thorn]

When the battery heats up due to prolonged firing

[frank basin]

i think the barrel do heating up

battery transfering out not in

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1308749100036128808/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.11.20_-_05.00.17.08.mp4?ex=673f1314&is=673dc194&hm=abc4b875d22bd8b6decdfd41854e2d15ea32c35bb5940ae7405c49791b830971&

Soyker with psword

[untold mulch]

I use it without, but I am definitely damaging my dps

but it was that or survability perks, and I like being alive more than killing a Crusher with a chunk of my mag

[robust lake]

I know nothing but Bolgun. bolt pistol and DBSG.

[dawn valve]

Does anyone have good first and last name suggestions for a generic cadian shock trooper?

I’m drawing a blank

[tough tiger]

John Cadia

[dawn valve]

I might put that if I can’t think of a good lore friendly one

[tough tiger]

Kanik Ejaculous?

[robust lake]

Choppa Pete

[dawn valve]

I needed up with Kassius

[stoic thorn]

Erlen Kyser is the name of a Kasrkin Captain found in the Kasrkin KT supplementary info

Maybe that'll work

[dawn valve]

ohh that sounds nice

[tawdry jackal]

im starting to play this again

been doing ogryn for the DAKKA but still rocking the bolter

[short fern]

Because we use hardly any ammo

Oh that was kind of a while ago sorry

[agile forge]

I kinda don't see where the meme of Veterans being able to shoot forever with a Recon comes from though

I'm running Flak/Crit Chance/Infernus/Headhunter on mine, with Shock Trooper. Are there other elements I'm missing?

I still need to pick up a modest amount of ammo drops

[short fern]

Reciprocity is one of the biggest if you spam dodges and if you’re able to risk being squishy you can also pick up stamina curios with stamina regen on them and use deadshot as well

Duck and dive perk and target down perk both drastically help with the stamina as well

[tame lodge]

That one crit chance subnode

[short fern]

I personally don’t use dead shot because it’s a nightmare switching back to melee with no stamina

[grand perch]

it does require ADS discipline when using recons

[short fern]

And you obviously don’t have unlimited ammo but much more than the average ranged person. With recon las I still use my melee often and pick up a decent share of ammo

Power sword is one of the best horde clears anyway

[agile forge]

Man idk but power swords have fallen off for me so hard now

I find I do better with chainsword IV or rashad now

[short fern]

I just like the heavy cleaves back to back

[agile forge]

I eat my activation too often for me

unpowered paddle slaps feel fuckin awful

[untold mulch]

pre nerf scavenger gave a lot for a lot of builds

[agile forge]

I couldn't afford Scavenger's detour so I'm stuck with Fire Team

[untold mulch]

Tho the 5sec CD is annoying ngl

[agile forge]

that might be the missing element

[short fern]

Scavenger isn’t very good with the 5 second cooldown. I don’t take it when any weapons anymore

[tame lodge]

Oh get the middle Recon

Best ammo economy

[short fern]

Isn’t that the one that consumes 2 ammo per shot

[remote sonnet]

Lol, the other day, many people here said that it is the worse ammo eco of all recon las.

[tough flower]

Or take the fastest firing one

[tame lodge]

That's the XIV

[tough flower]

For maximum carnage

[short fern]

I take the fastest firing one myself

[remote sonnet]

The middle one is the 2 ammo per shot.

It is great for WS though

[tough flower]

Imo, take the slow one on Psyker and fastest one on Vet with Onslaught

Hit heads and watch Plague Ogryns literally disintegrate

[short fern]

People call it bait but rend with fastest firing is pretty great. Too bad the 20% damage vs unyielding is too superior though

[tough flower]

Yes

[short fern]

I end up using my power or dueling sword vs carapace targets anyway

[tough flower]

I like having the option to shoot carapace tbh.

Even if I don't always do it.

[short fern]

Krak grenades always do the job too if you haven’t seen a monstrosity in a while

Most satisfying feeling throwing a grenade into a mob of crushers

[inland orchid]

I love saving my squadmates via kraking a agroed DH

[tough flower]

I usually have kraks for monsters tbh

[hearty panther]

i love hearing "Krak thrown!" cause then i run down the Crusher/Bulwak line and stun as many as I can with my weapon special so that they clump

[inland orchid]

It’s a bit tricky given how much they move

But that’s just a skill issue on my part

[tough flower]

Woe, triple krak be upon ye DH

[short fern]

The 60 second free nade is honestly one of my favorite perks in the tree

If you happen to be running plas a DH is but a fart in the wind but I never use plas

[grand perch]

The 60 second government welfare nades come in clutch so often

[agile forge]

I love the 60s free grenade but sometimes I can't afford to take it

and then I have to take the other welfare grenade talent which sometimes just decides to never ever trigger lmao

The one where when Jimmy Space notices you've killed a big boy, he slips a grenade into your pocket for being such a good lad.

[tough flower]

Based, plasma sucks

I am the #1 plasma hater

[inland orchid]

I like putting glowy soccerball sized holes into my enemies

[tough flower]

Not because it's overpowered it's just so uninteresting

[inland orchid]

Less for you means more for me

[tough flower]

Yes

[short fern]

Idk I find a lot of guns equally easy to use

Dueling sword with revolver I feel like a god half the time

[tough flower]

Revolver is just so effective

I've recently been running a Ghost laspistol for heavy melee set-ups so I can just

Wade into heavy gunner fire with no danger

It's kind of hilarious

[round sinew]

Howdy fellow veteran mains

In light of the havoc announcement I'd like to start getting actually serious about this game instead of just letting my shout vet build carry me

[inland orchid]

Any weapons so far that have taken your interest?

[round sinew]

Before now I've only ever really used the lasgun or bolt pistol

And, uhh, shovel chainsword and power sword

And I'm weird apparently because I like the mk3 power sword

[tough flower]

Infantry Lasgun?

[round sinew]

Yep

But that was a while ago, I'm a bolt pistol main now

It's just more fun imo

[tough flower]

Bolt pistol is excellent

Good for special removal

Instant draw

[round sinew]

Yeah, I run it with glory hunter and it synergizes great with my shout vet build

[inland orchid]

Lethal proximity affects your grenades with lethal explosions so u can expand the range of shredders

[tough flower]

But you need a solid horde clear melee. Power sword is good, but boring imo. Shovel is my baby, but I run likely suboptimal blessing for ultimate fun.

[inland orchid]

Since it ups explosion radius

[round sinew]

Yep! I run shredders as well for that exact reason

[round sinew]

Power sword is kinda boring, but it's powerful
It's kinda annoying sometimes though since getting hit cancels your energized attack

[tough flower]

That's a bug apparently, but yes

It drives me insane when it happens

[short fern]

I personally think power sword is still less meta chasing than dueling sword

[tough flower]

The XIIIg chainsword is also a good choice

[round sinew]

I also used to run a stupid helbore melee build but I haven't done that in a while

[round sinew]

Honestly I just use it for the 40k flavor

[short fern]

Commissar look with dueling sword is pretty great

[round sinew]

I always give my Guard sergeants power swords after all

[remote sonnet]

Real vet uses primative yet brutal melee, like maul and shovel.

[round sinew]

The shovel is indeed fun

[tough flower]

Luv me shovel
Luv me recon las

Simple as

[remote sonnet]

My top 2 guns are recon las and plasma

So now I have 2 enemies here

[short fern]

I actually have yet to level shovel mastery. People catching my interest

[tough flower]

2 enemies?

Skullcrusher + Trauma is horde mulcher

[short fern]

Frenemies 😉

[tough flower]

As I said, probably suboptimal but hilarious

[round sinew]

The helbore bayonet build is actually kinda viable, believe it or not
Because of the weird way it interacts with melee weapon blessings, and that it's kinda both ranged and melee mechanically

[tough flower]

No enemies can stand up and they just get battered to death

[round sinew]

It also trivializes ragers by stunlocking them with weakspot hits

And also maulers kinda

[tough flower]

Doesn't kill Maulers as fast though. Lol

[round sinew]

I really hope fatshark never nerfs it because it's one of the most fun builds I've played

[inland orchid]

I love stunlocking elites with my shovel combo, it’s mad satisfying

[round sinew]

Depending on what you bind the bayonet attack to it might be a bit hard on the fingers though

[round sinew]

Real

Aight I'll be back soon gotta go now

[grand perch]

i forgot what the default key for special attack was. kinda curious what key are people using, cause i had to rebind that to Q immediately

[short fern]

I highly doubt since dueling sword outright one shots most of them

[inland orchid]

Both are good, nothin like chopping the head off a dreg rager that just tried rocking your shit

[tough flower]

A self-respecting ground-pounder wouldn't touch that thing

Leave it for the psykers

(Fat Shark please remove Dueling Sword from Zealot and Vet)

[short fern]

I kind of want to level a psyker. Spamming flames looks like fun

[grand perch]

removes it from psyker instead

[tough flower]

NO

Psyker is wildly powerful in a number of different builds

[grand perch]

okay, well give it to ogryn to compensate

[tough flower]

Ogryn holds a dueling sword between two fingers like a toothpick

[inland orchid]

Get 6 dueling swords, now we got discount ogryn wolverine

[round sinew]

Aaand I return

[round sinew]

I rebound it to mmb for convenience

Anyways, if I'm gonna start doing these really absurdly hard havoc missions soon I'd better get really really good

I'm thinking of trying to get good with the devil's claw parry

[inland orchid]

Best of luck fellow soldier, knock ‘em dead out there

[floral ridge]

It's honestly not that difficult, only real timing you need to get down is overheads

[untold mulch]

Is really that good?

[floral ridge]

Duelling Sword is very overtuned right now, yes

[untold mulch]

damn

[dry niche]

Devil claw is satisfying for ragers

[ionic bear]

Which is funny because the stats didn’t change
It’s just what happens when zealot gets a hold of a weapon

[short fern]

I personally like the eviscerator more on zealot. Pure horde clearing carnage

[ionic bear]

Veterans can finally be the commissars the aspire to be

(Friendly fire one day for true commissar role play)

[untold mulch]

Would have been funny a skill to shoot allies to buff them

[short fern]

I just wish eviscerator was better vs unyielding. Dueling sword way too easy to spam weak spot stabs on monstrosities

[floral ridge]

Bolter offsets that downside, and the evis is better for hordes

[dry niche]

Dueling sword is way too easy at a lot of things

[short fern]

The best is when a vet and zealot synergize and the vet focuses elites while the zealot focuses trash

[thorn lark]

it always was overtuned, even on psyker

sg + dd made them just go bonkers

[ionic bear]

They could also just swap roles
The vet mows down trash while the zealot runs around stabbing ogryns

And 1v1ning the chaos spawn

[short fern]

I personally think every class is overturned except ogryns

Sorry but they’re too big to clutch for shit

[ionic bear]

Gunlugger ogryn:

[short fern]

Slow dodges and big hit box makes clutching a nightmare

I haven’t leveled a psyker but those ones who run a shield and that support lightning are gods in my eyes

Make hardest difficulty a breeze

[tough flower]

It's really, really strong as a melee weapon already, but it was on a class that wasn't very melee focused

On Zealot it's kind of ridiculous

[untold mulch]

I see

[severe gale]

i wish eviscerator was good

well

the mk15 is very good

the mk3 fucking sucks

[tough flower]

And it'll probably be nerfed because of zealot, making the other classes who have it suffer

[short fern]

The mk15 is as good as it gets vs everything except monstrosities

[severe gale]

??

it’s amazing against bosses

you can one shot weakened bosses with it

[short fern]

The revved attack never stays on the weak spot though

[severe gale]

stays??

[tough flower]

Wow, we tuned this good melee weapon to be acceptable on the strongest melee class, let's see how the weakest melee class is doing with it

Psykers:

[severe gale]

if the attack latches onto a weak spot

it stays on it

[short fern]

It always snaps to the bottom part of the body for me

[severe gale]

it won’t move off

[severe gale]

if you’re talking about burgles

[short fern]

I’m doing something wrong then

[severe gale]

that’s weird burgle hitboxes

the best way to get the burgle pimple is to be on their side

[short fern]

The slugs that vomit right?

[severe gale]

and aim high

[severe gale]

yes

those are beasts of nurgle

[short fern]

Interesting ok I’ll try from the side next time

[severe gale]

burgles

[tough flower]

Fun fact, the weird second mouth tongue thing is also a weakspot

[severe gale]

also, if you use the chastise charge while sawing, you’ll deal more damage

[short fern]

The eviscerator is my favorite weapon besides never being able to hit the yellow pimples with it

[severe gale]

not a weak spot, but it does take more damage compared to the body

it’s got a like

.9 damage modifier iirc

compared to the body taking like .5 or less

[tough flower]

Your knowledge surpasses mine

[short fern]

So basically come from the side and aim over the pimple? I’ll try that

[ionic bear]

I can’t wait to overhead shred this beast of nurgle

swings at back
hits tail

[short fern]

Yea my camera always snaps to the tail and it makes me rage

[severe gale]

yeah it’s very annoying

[tough flower]

Simple solution to the problem really

Don't play zealot

[short fern]

Granted my zealot always has the bolter specifically for slugs

[tough flower]

I kid, I love my overly Scottish middle-aged man

[short fern]

Everything else gets a chainsaw to the face

[ionic bear]

Simpler solution

[severe gale]

i really really hope

that the next update

[ionic bear]

Give in and use the DS

[severe gale]

buffs the mk3 evis

i mentioned my proposed changes to a CM or a warden a while ago

[short fern]

You mean gives it a decent cleave option?

[tough flower]

Isn't the MKIII better on paper but just have goofy moveset

[severe gale]

i really hope they listened

[severe gale]

no

it’s worse

[tough flower]

Oh

[severe gale]

in almost every way

[ionic bear]

Mk3 just

Stinks

[severe gale]

i like the mk3 move set

it’s one of my favorite weapons

but it sucks

[short fern]

The mk15 just makes moshpitting fun even vs elites

[severe gale]

h1 having a .33 multiplier from first to second target

is insane

[ionic bear]

I always liked mk7 more cuz it behaves just like the executioner sword

[severe gale]

that’s mk15

it’s the exact same move set lol

[ionic bear]

I thought it was 7

I suck at Roman numbers

[severe gale]

XV is 15

[short fern]

XV

[tough flower]

XV is 15

[severe gale]

X means 10

V means 5

[agile forge]

10+5

[short fern]

21, ****** you stupid

[dry cloak]

Many

[severe gale]

no i’m not

[queen fox]

21 is XXI

[short fern]

It’s a meme

I can’t spell it out though

[round sinew]

So, how do you guys think the havoc missions can be done?

[severe gale]

so is what i responded with

“you stupid”
“no i’m not”

[severe gale]

skill

[round sinew]

Each one is individualized, so it'll be different on a case by case basis, as the announcement said, but I'm thinking 4 shout vets might work

[round sinew]

Sorry, I don't have it :(

[severe gale]

4 good enough zealot’s could handle it easily enough

[grand perch]

4xvoc vet

[severe gale]

i mean before he got banned dorn said he and 3 others would probably be the first ones to reach level 40 havoc

[round sinew]

Who's dorn?

[ionic bear]

Nothing the faithful can’t handle

[tough flower]

before he got banned

[round sinew]

Actually, do I wanna know?

[severe gale]

zealot main, who’s on the playtesters

[severe gale]

he got banned for BS

[short fern]

Or 4 critlots… or 4 surge staff spammers… or wait sorry ogryns you kinda suck

[queen fox]

Absolute bs

[severe gale]

he’s actually pretty chill

[queen fox]

Dorn was right

[round sinew]

Oh okay

Why was he banned then?

[tough flower]

Oh?

[severe gale]

he got banned for “witchhunting” but it was a guy who was being really creepy to the girls in the server

[queen fox]

Dorn got banned for 'witch hunting' when he reported an obvious racist in here

[tough flower]

I'm not aware of the situation

Ah

[severe gale]

and it was screenshots of DMs

[round sinew]

Ah

[severe gale]

luckily the creepy racist also got banned at least

[round sinew]

At least there is some justice in the world

[tough flower]

They banned them both?

[hollow ibex]

wait dorn actually got banned?

[severe gale]

yeah

[short fern]

Kind of a bizarre reason for ban but oh well I guess

[tough flower]

Actual Imperium activities

[hollow ibex]

i thought it was just a joke lol

[severe gale]

unfortunately yeah

[hollow ibex]

oof

rip

[uncut pebble]

The only issue with Dorn getting banned was that he called the guy out publicly.

[ionic bear]

Imperium activities

[uncut pebble]

If he did it in dms with mods it would've been a nonissue.

[short fern]

That will do it

[severe gale]

he even admits he was out of line but it was stupid to ban him for that

[hollow ibex]

yeah that's crazy lol

[somber adder]

This, plus he's been told off for this exact same public "shaming" / witch hunting before so the mods just shot him lol

[tough flower]

Summary execution of all involved is oddly on brand

[uncut pebble]

I still find it sketchy that Dorn was banned without Midas being investigated at the same time.

[severe gale]

yarp

[severe gale]

that’s the mods for you

anyway if any of them are lurking here

haiii

[uncut pebble]

Zealout chat in its entirety had to call Dorn's ban into question to get Midas looked into.

[hollow ibex]

what did dorn do to piss off the mods

[short fern]

This conversation is outside my scope so time to get back to work I guess

[severe gale]

he was actually in pretty good graces with them

he’s one of the playtesters

from my view

it seems like it’s just one mod had an issue with him

sniped him

[uncut pebble]

Same.

[hollow ibex]

usually how it goes

[severe gale]

and none of the other mods thought to undo that

[uncut pebble]

There's not really any other way it could've gone.

It was very under the table.

[severe gale]

yeah it’s very dumb

[uncut pebble]

But anyway, seems like he made an appeal, so only time will tell if he gets unbanned.

It's out of our hands.

[dry cloak]

Its more than four

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-rogaldorn-gif-10829755

[short fern]

I hope he does because tbh he was great for answering random questions, lol

The only reason most of us even use a games official discord

[queen fox]

this is a very good point tbh

[umbral scaffold]

i swear to god damnation is no joke

[worldly plover]

does the toughness from exhilarating takedown always work or do you stop getting that 15% after reaching 3 stacks

[ionic bear]

It’s almost like it’s the hardest natural difficulty

[umbral scaffold]

yeah, just jumped into it from heresy, managed to finish only one out of five

[worldly plover]

auric is so cool, i love not seeing

[ionic bear]

Auric is so cool I love point blank gunners that just decide to shoot instead of running to cover

[hollow ibex]

it's mainly shotgunners that do that

ig unsuppressed gunners too

[worldly plover]

suppression doesnt work on gunners i swear

when theyre firing atleast

[hollow ibex]

but shotgunners are the real threat in terms of firing at CQC

[grand perch]

oh yeah

[umbral scaffold]

I wonder how many hours and failures will it take for me to get better

[grand perch]

you can be literally gone in an instant if a squad of shotgunners opens up on you

[ionic bear]

Is it me or do shotgunners often do no damage

[round sinew]

Me too man, me too

[hollow ibex]

nah they absolutely fuck you up if you're not careful

since they often spawn in packs

[umbral scaffold]

How many hours u have

[ionic bear]

Like unless I’m getting chain staggered by 4 of them I can’t die to them

[hollow ibex]

and open fire at the same time lol

on auric they're no joke

i've seen people just get instantly deleted by them

[agile forge]

Shotgunners used to be lethal on their own

[round sinew]

I don’t remember, like 100 or something

[agile forge]

now the game makes the same effect by giving you 12 of the karkers at once

[umbral scaffold]

70 here, hope is not yet lost for me, yay

[round sinew]

Yay!

[umbral scaffold]

What is wrong with those beasts of nurgle tho? Almost every mission i get like 8 of them in one run

[hollow ibex]

it's the event that's ongoing atm

spams BONs

[umbral scaffold]

It's like nurgle himself has an explosive diarrhea

[hollow ibex]

they just want to play 🙂

[round sinew]

Nurgle do be nurgling

[tame lodge]

It does

The thing is

What's your weapon suppression value?

[umbral scaffold]

Now that's the question

[clever hedge]

The BoN just want friends, and they heard a rumor that all of tertium wants to be their friend

[hollow ibex]

the best form of suppression is killing

[umbral scaffold]

They have entire warp to befriend, they can leave us alone now

Getting tired of them

[round sinew]

Everyone near the victims of my bolt pistol are thoroughly suppressed

[hollow ibex]

good time to try out bolter if you haven't already

[umbral scaffold]

I am trying my best to master Infantry Lasgun and Knife build

[hollow ibex]

oh lol you're going to suffer in this event then

[clever hedge]

So much suffering

[umbral scaffold]

I do suffer, those assholes always get us in tight corridor, always enjoy being raped from all sides due to active horde and BON

[agile forge]

It's also a good day to be a dome psyker

especially an EP brain rupture dome psyker

[umbral scaffold]

Psyker is for heretics

[agile forge]

psyker is an extremely effective answer to heretics, yes

and so should be deployed against them at every opportunity

[merry coral]

until they brain fart

[hollow ibex]

i'd just avoid the event if you're grinding ilas

not worth the pain lol

[merry coral]

and summon demons on the entire planet

[agile forge]

There's only one more day of the event iirc

[hollow ibex]

dome psyker is hilarious against BON

just invalidates it entirely

[agile forge]

GDPR them fuckers away

I Do Not Consent

to slug vore

[merry coral]

do you reckon... It's cozy in the slug belly

[agile forge]

Veteran has a bunch of great answers to BoNs anyway, if you choose to take them

My recon build and my infantry autogun build both contribute a ton of damage

Focus target lets you effectively be responsible for like 20% of the BoN's HP bar before you even fire a shot at it

Bolter is Bolter

[umbral scaffold]

I literaly only play veteran and zaelot but currently trying to master my skill with veteran aswell as trying my best to get more skill and be more effective

[round sinew]

Kid named 3 krak nades:

[agile forge]

Kraks are good damage against bosses too, more bursty goodness

Eventually you find yourself playing all the classes anyway

it keeps the game fresher imo

[merry coral]

I love vets wasting kraks on One (1) crusher

[umbral scaffold]

Imagine how cool would it be to be able to throw granades into BOH open mouth and explode it's insides out

[agile forge]

Everybody and their mother has a duelling sword now

crusher lobotomiser

[merry coral]

I'm like "ok but what about keep your kraks and shoot the boi in the head"

[agile forge]

I found myself doing that earlier today actually

it wasn't even just a crusher

it was a tentaclehead crusher

so total waste lmao

[merry coral]

hahahaaahah

[round sinew]

That’s why I stopped using kraks honestly, I kept throwing them at targets that my teammates would kill a second later

[umbral scaffold]

Know that feel

[merry coral]

I mean kraks against a pack of crushers, or a very bad placed bulwark I can easily understand

[round sinew]

It made the 500 krak Kill penance a nightmare to do

[ionic bear]

My builds are so generalist they can just kill everything by themselves
So I just keep the kraks to throw at bosses by now

[merry coral]

but, like, player in auric that throw a krak for a single crusher

most of the time the crusher dies before the explosion lmao

[round sinew]

Until the flak armored chaff update which made it super easy

[hollow ibex]

yeah gotta be careful

[ionic bear]

Don’t bother throwing kraks at crushers if a zealot is on ur team

[hollow ibex]

i tend to throw it at shit further back

[ionic bear]

Unless it’s 8 crushers at once

[merry coral]

I'm mostly using frag anyways

[hollow ibex]

whereas the first one or two crushers/bulwarks are going to be shredded

before nade goes off

[umbral scaffold]

Still as a Veteran my greatest nightmare are Ogryns who just love soaking every single of my shot into their skin

[merry coral]

with grenade regen AND demo team cause I'm a freak

[hollow ibex]

at least they don't do that anymore

[hollow ibex]

freak
you do realize that's just the meta build right lol

[round sinew]

Eh, I’ve learned to shoot around them

[hollow ibex]

you don't need to anymore

you can shoot through ogryns now

[merry coral]

Idk, is it ? I mosty see one or the other

[umbral scaffold]

Every single ogryn i played with rushed straight into my shots making it impossible to shot anything

[round sinew]

Really? Damn

[hollow ibex]

yeah on auric it's deifnitely meta

[merry coral]

yoo I'm meta

[hollow ibex]

yup they realized how annoying it was for ogryn to block shots lol

[ionic bear]

Cannot stand bulwark ogryns that do their job (they eat up all my shots)

[umbral scaffold]

I have knife for those

[merry coral]

It's still pretty annoying to have an ogryn in front of me blocking my view

[ionic bear]

Thankfully most ogryns I run into use guns

So they stand beside me

Instead of in front of me

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah ogryn is like half of monitor

[ionic bear]

(So now I suffer cuz they shoot the guy I was aiming at and I lose hunters stance)

[merry coral]

just, flesh

on my screen

[umbral scaffold]

And hairy buttocks

[merry coral]

Ew

[umbral scaffold]

It's irony tho as lore wise ogryns and veterans are best frens

[languid dune]

Me right now after seeing the weapons being added

[merry coral]

There's a dialog with one the vet voice telling the bully ogryn "you're like family you know"

"well adopted family but still"

it's cute

[umbral scaffold]

Also it seems like Veteran is the only one who Ogryn really respects and adore

[merry coral]

Nah, I'd say Savent psyker does too

[hollow ibex]

oh yeah the one that calls orgryns sweet brute?

[merry coral]

yeah

[umbral scaffold]

Does anyone ever told something positive about psyker tho?

[hollow ibex]

cadian vet and ogryn are like big brother, little brother lol

[merry coral]

I mean, still brute but, a sweet one haha

[languid dune]

You go big man

[hollow ibex]

pre-diabetic brute

[ionic bear]

Ogryns tend to see soldiers like the veteran the most

That’s why all ogryns call all vets “boss”

[merry coral]

Meanwhile; 2 vets be like

[umbral scaffold]

CADIA STANDS 🗿🗿🗿

[ionic bear]

I’m so confused with that 1 vet personality

He’s nice to pretty much every other person

[merry coral]

like ffs it's so brutal

lmao

[languid dune]

Cadia or something

[ionic bear]

But he stays hating

On the Cadian

[umbral scaffold]

They hate us because they ain't us

[ionic bear]

The cadian doesn’t stand down either he just goes “I won’t forget this.”

Tbf the cadian hates a shitton on the loose canon

[hollow ibex]

i love how full of rage and guilt the cadian is

[merry coral]

the loose canon female and male are also pretty much always fighting

[hollow ibex]

i don't even give a shit about cadia

[ionic bear]

Loose canon: so…what did we learn there?

Cadian: that you’re a poor excuse for a soldier.

[hollow ibex]

i just like the character

[ionic bear]

Loose canon female is a total psychopath

[merry coral]

Yes

[languid dune]

The four flavors of Vet based on dialogue I always get. Commissar suck up, they're very good aren't they, muh Cadia, and whatever loose cannon is because I never hear people with it

[merry coral]

I love her

[dry niche]

Loosecannon suggesting desertion is crazy

[umbral scaffold]

Wait you wanna tell me that it's not just voice it's entire fucking personality

[ionic bear]

Loose canon is just a war scarred cynic person that’s just tired of it

[merry coral]

I love the call out of the loose cannon

[ionic bear]

Then we have the psyker personalities being

Silly heretic
Nice person
Heretic

[merry coral]

TARXIS SOMETHING SOMETHING ......... SNIIIIIPEEEEEER

[agile forge]

Yep! And often there's differences between male and female too

[ionic bear]

He’s the only vet that doesn’t remember the target designations

😭

[merry coral]

yeah

hahahaha

I love that

[umbral scaffold]

Fucking hell after 70 hours i realized it on discord

[agile forge]

Traxis-12? Yeah, Traxis-12!

(Spoilers: It's not a traxis-12)

(There is no traxis-12, at least not on Atoma)

[ionic bear]

Maybe the cadian was right to hate on him

[earnest bone]

just throw them at crusher and bulwark packs, not singles

and the bosses

and it will do fine

[agile forge]

You notice a big difference between the two lunatic scottish zealots imo

[umbral scaffold]

How is called the one who doesn't trust anyone?

[agile forge]

Female one is much more likable

Cutthroeat

Cutthroat

[ionic bear]

The male one is in khorne’s sights

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah that's the one i have

[agile forge]

It's the one that's always going on about Cadia

[umbral scaffold]

I am also from cadia as a cut throat lmao

[agile forge]

Tbh so's the female one, but she's just a bit more jovial about it

[ionic bear]

We need a kriegsman personality for vets

[umbral scaffold]

Suicidal Warmachine?

[ionic bear]

Yes

[languid dune]

Loose Cannon is just "IT'S A KARKIN PLAGUE OGRYN"

[merry coral]

Well

it is, a karkin plague ogryn

[ionic bear]

“Yeah? Yeah? Who’s dead? YOU ARE!”

[umbral scaffold]

Are they even talking tho?

[agile forge]

also brags about surviving basically every single enemy faction in the 40k universe

[umbral scaffold]

It's like "fix the bayonets" and that's it

[agile forge]

Chaos marines, tyranids, aeldari at least

[ionic bear]

They do talk

It’s just they have no real sense of individuality

[short fern]

Wait how do I know which personality type my character is?

[languid dune]

I'm honestly surprised how little I hear Cadia cutthroats

[ionic bear]

They each have a diff voice

[agile forge]

You can check in the personality scourge

[languid dune]

I thought they would make up the bulk of Vets but nah

[ionic bear]

And they ofc say diff things

[short fern]

The what

[agile forge]

The new thing in the barber shop

[umbral scaffold]

EVERY BULLET A PRAYER FOR VENGEANCE

[agile forge]

it lets you modify your personality, height, etc

[grand perch]

fem cutthroat is rather rare

[ionic bear]

Every fem just goes loose canon

I stg

[umbral scaffold]

Fem vet is rather rare too

[grand perch]

one reason i made these compilations shamelessselfplug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av5jCHeQHmk

[agile forge]

Female loose cannon is an adorable little scoundrel though

[ionic bear]

Idk about adorable

[agile forge]

can't blame her for being popular now can you

Male loner is my favourite of all of the personalities though

probably half the reason why I main psyker

[languid dune]

I'm very good aren't I

[grand perch]

shes certainly much more entertaining than female professional. used that voice on my hardcore char for a while and absolutely couldnt stand it

[ionic bear]

Is loner the heretic or the silly heretic

Wait the silly heretic is the dreamer I think

So loner is just the normal heretic

[grand perch]

loner is the one many consider german

[empty root]

what are the top vet ranged weapons right now?

[short fern]

There’s a barber shop? Lol I need to explore the rest area more

[umbral scaffold]

I love roleplaying as my Steel Legion

[pseudo fiber]

It was the most switched voice when the personality scourge released lol

[grand perch]

not me

CADIA

STANDS

[ancient path]

am i a weirdo for liking devils claw swords more than heavy swords because the parry is more fun

[dry niche]

Steel legion drip is peak

[heavy rover]

Got some dust in my eye. Must be a piece of Cadia

[merry coral]

can't wait for tomorrow

[ionic bear]

Bro is buddies with morrow

[umbral scaffold]

Who

[merry coral]

can't wait to have more weapons skins cosmetic

[ionic bear]

Morrow is the first guy we meet in the game

Bald person

[languid dune]

Probably because people weren't expecting a Cadian guardsmen to sound and act like that

[grand perch]

almost no one goes heavy sword in my observation.

[ionic bear]

That commands us

[merry coral]

moustache

[tame lodge]

Plasma
Vraks 5
Zarona Revolver
Boltgun
Bolt Pistol
Double Barrel

[agile forge]

Devil Claw is a very love/meh weapon generally

[umbral scaffold]

Uuuuuuuuuh

[languid dune]

If my planet got blown up and I was imprisioned, I would

[agile forge]

People who get into it a little bit, get into it a lot

[ionic bear]

You can’t be this out of the loop man

[ancient path]

ive seen ppl took heavy swords horn a lot for it vs ragers

[agile forge]

Cadians are 40k Arthur Dents.

[ancient path]

its why ive been trying it out

[umbral scaffold]

I can't remember any bald mustacho man

[heavy rover]

I find your lack of recon lasgun.... Disturbing

[ancient path]

but i still prefer devils claw

[merry coral]

this dood

[agile forge]

I loved my heavy sword on my zealot back when it was exclusive

[ancient path]

papa marrow

[ionic bear]

He pitches in on like 90% of the missions

[agile forge]

the mark 9

[empty root]

what are the main differences between bolter and plasma because they seem to fill very similar role. Also what niche does bolt pistol fit?

[agile forge]

idk how it is in everything else now

[umbral scaffold]

Haven't seen him in a while

[agile forge]

Bolt pistol is like a spicy zarona revolver

[ancient path]

THE HOLY TIER LIST

[empty root]

how do they compare?

[grand perch]

you know its good if the title goes lololololololololololololo

lolololollolololololol

lol

[ancient path]

its probably because its the only thing ppl want the book for

its how ppl get info these days

i mean i still reference it just to see which mark is cooler

[ionic bear]

A plasma gun is a more slow paced huge burst type of gun that u gotta control to not explode and die

The bolter is more of a jam up drugs and shoot type of gun
That can also kinda make do as a good head hunter gun if u ADS

[ancient path]

but i stan for my chainswords 😤

[merry coral]

Tier list videos mixed with gameplauy of parkour minecraft

and there you go, peak internet

[ancient path]

peak-- yea

[merry coral]

hahahaha

[agile forge]

Don't plasmas usually get used with strictly LMB now?

so you have zero risk of psykering yourself

[dry niche]

Which flip sapper shovel is the slow one

[agile forge]

I might be totally off base here

[empty root]

when i use PG i generally only pre-charge for stuff like mutants

[umbral scaffold]

My beloved Cadia Shocktrooper

[agile forge]

but Bolt Pistol is basically a slightly less accurate Zarona that doesn't penetrate anywhere near as well, but it does cause explosions with massive stagger

[ionic bear]

I remember buying a whole karskin set

[agile forge]

Zarona revolver I mean

[ionic bear]

I’m a true son of cadia

[agile forge]

not the shotgun

[empty root]

also what is a good melee weapon to pair with bolter?

[agile forge]

idk why they had to fuck with all the weapon names

[umbral scaffold]

There's a kasrkin set?

[agile forge]

I will never get used to that

bastards.

[uncut pebble]

It's an unfair comparison.

Zarona is an anti armor crusher deletion machine, bolt pistol is a stat stick and rager destroyer.

[ionic bear]

It doesn’t specifically say karskin
But it has the color pattern of it + look of it

[umbral scaffold]

Bro show me