veteran-class

[uncut pebble]

Yes.

Decimator can reach a higher strength threshold, but if you miss an attack for any reason, all your stacks disappear.

[verbal burrow]

And that's a dealbreaker, I dump anything resembling that

[uncut pebble]

That poxwalker you went to destroy? The psykers assail dart killed it. 10 deci stacks gone.

[verbal burrow]

Things can somehow get even worse than that in this game

I'll be doing my Zealot alt for funzies and someone will knock down all enemies with some fancy pants ability, whilst I was about to have extreme amounts of fun by swinging my heavy eviscerator at roughly head height

[molten hound]

you lose all stacks of deci when you miss??

[verbal burrow]

ye

[uncut pebble]

Yes.

[molten hound]

that sucks

[verbal burrow]

Headtaker doesn't have that problem, and brutal momentum is non-negotiable.

much like democracy

[clever hedge]

Good ol brutal momentum

[tame lodge]

That 50% strength though
C'mon I know you want it
Ooh listen to the voices

Ooh

[vapid nacelle]

literally just wrath if it stacked up to 10 times

which also completely falls off if you miss

[clever hedge]

So don't miss xD

[tame lodge]

Executor still winning
(Ignore the fact it'll drop if you don't hit weakspot)

[verbal burrow]

Which is also why I never take that one

Gosh I don't have time to play but I keep seeing Krak Grenades buffed by middle keystone and damage stim in my mind's eye

[candid lance]

Wha

[uncut pebble]

Wrath is cleave, not strength.

[verbal burrow]

The boss's HP bar. So red once. Now so black.

I can picture it

[vapid nacelle]

I didn't mean an exact replica yea

[stoic thorn]

Quite like the shotgun

[hollow ibex]

yeah number calcs are all fucked

i had some perfect weapons that aren't perfect after the patch lol

[graceful cypress]

I just got on overwatch penance

😎

And also the untouchable penance

[ancient path]

is there a case for roaring advance / ceaseless barrage for torrent braced autoguns?

[vapid nacelle]

Finally used a shovel in auric mael

even with only 47% first target it feels like I'm wielding the holy grail

[undone jungle]

It's my favorite generalist weapon for Vet

the OG shovel is just incredibly good without being overtuned

[vapid nacelle]

I love it

[undone jungle]

"oh but it's terrible against bosses" alright but that's why ya got Kraks and a gun silly :P

[vapid nacelle]

I love that I can have 80% mob too

[vapid nacelle]

I'm using frags but I have a Vraks or Laspistol for bosses so still a non issue

[jovial sluice]

forgive me but i decided to get rid of uncanny strike for lacerate

on the knife

[undone jungle]

the main build I use besides my knife infil on vet is shovel + boltgun exec stance

It one mags beasts of nurgle which has been making the event very easy

although it's still easier to run PBB ogryn or thammer zealot

[tame lodge]

Hope you see the wrongs in your actions any time soon

Anyways what's the other blessing

[undone jungle]

probably mercy killer :^)

[jovial sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-yes-check-yes-checkmark-yes-checking-yes-gif-17016402979197551350

[jovial sluice]

nope i dont see the wrong in my action because its helping me with horde killing

[fading yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393

[vapid nacelle]

yeah I don't have a bolter lol

I haven't played my vet as much as I could've

[fading yarrow]

Got Dockets?

[desert inlet]

Dump stat for plasma gun?

[vapid nacelle]

69% thermal 71% charge rate

[fading yarrow]

71% Thermal 69% Charge Rate

[vapid nacelle]

80% thermal 80% charge rate

dump the ammo

👍

[stoic basalt]

~awww man, something that specific?

[vapid nacelle]

Dumping some %s of the ammo to make sure both of those are that % or higher is fine I think

[fading yarrow]

Plasma Gun is the only weapon like this

[stoic basalt]

oh so those are the like the minimums we want to hit without going way over?

[hollow ibex]

exact numbers

i cba'd to roll a perfect plasma

it's such a boring gun anyway

[vapid nacelle]

from how I understand it 69% thermal 71% charge are the absolute most optimized but going slightly higher than that isn't gonna ruin anything

[fading yarrow]

Mobility is the best sacrifice imo but it kinda doesn't matter; I've found it shockingly easy to get the correct allocations in Brunt's slot machine

With enough dockets and some patience, it's very shrimple

[hollow ibex]

literally unplayable

[vapid nacelle]

Plasma gun has mobility as a dump stat?

[hollow ibex]

it doesn't

otherwise it'd be the dump lol

[fading yarrow]

I must stress the "imo" part of my statement

[vapid nacelle]

I am confusion

[fading yarrow]

Like, if I wanted to round up Charge and Thermal to 80 each, I would rather sacrifice the tick of mobility over ammo capacity

[vapid nacelle]

but there isn't any mobility stat to sacrifice 😭

[fading yarrow]

Wait a second

[vapid nacelle]

it's the plasma gun

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[vapid nacelle]

damage stopping power thermal resist charge rate ammo

I think are its modifiers

[fading yarrow]

This is why I shouldn't talk about things at almost midnight

Unironic brain fart

My bad g

[undone jungle]

you can also just say fuck it and dump charge rate

[vapid nacelle]

have you been talking with the psykers again

[undone jungle]

it won't be optimal but it will be alright

[vapid nacelle]

is mobility plasma gun one of those "dreams" they keep telling you about

[fading yarrow]

Play-to-earn Tempestus Scion armor...

Ork Power Klaw for Ogryn...

[vapid nacelle]

they're beyond saving

😔

[undone jungle]

true

I've ran it a lot but it's just. Stale

not snappy enough to be smooth like a revolver or bolt pistol

not enough thump like the boltgun

just boringly OP

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/brilliant-i-like-this-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-gif-18951630

yeah my feeling about the plasma

[undone jungle]

same

nowadays I mostly use boltgun and bistol on vet

lethal proximity makes weapon specialist so fun

[somber onyx]

im going to lose my fucking mind

[orchid hemlock]

bruh this is eays

just go onto carnival

crab walk at the beggining against the fence wall

start hacking

the penance also works with melee weapons btw

[somber onyx]

shit id idnt know any of that

[orchid hemlock]

literally just melee everything while crouched

just pretend ur short

[somber onyx]

i just suck ass so i stuggle to kill with headshots

[orchid hemlock]

u dont need to get headshots?

[somber onyx]

to stack it you do

and as mentioned

im bad

[orchid hemlock]

u dont have camo?

[somber onyx]

no ive been using long range assassin

[orchid hemlock]

long range is the worst of the 2

camo is sig better in most situations

unless u are a god at aiming

if u have camo, you literally just crouch the entire game and never walk uncrouched, u tech can keep 10 stacks for the entire match

[slow spade]

speed buffs also apply to your crouching speed

it doesn't really help but hey its something

[uncut pebble]

Is vet chat actually recommending crabwalking...

[orchid hemlock]

for a penance yes

[uncut pebble]

Oh.

Just use a shotgun?

[uncut pebble]

Or the brown recon?

[orchid hemlock]

no u can get it with melee weapons

[uncut pebble]

You can get lots of kills with the brown recon easily.

[orchid hemlock]

just go to a horde spot and start swinging while crouched

[uncut pebble]

Each shot cleaves targets.

[slow spade]

better to do it with melee

[orchid hemlock]

sure but recon with MF is 🤮

well whatever u do, just coruch with camo and just kill everything

[obsidian umbra]

whats the build for bolter after the buffs?

[orchid hemlock]

poor guy was trying to get it with LSA 😭

[orchid hemlock]

something like this ig: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d69293a-2b68-4cb2-b221-c5f5493fd880/bolt-deez-nutts?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[slow spade]

here's what I use

[orchid hemlock]

ah the "healing" vet build

[slow spade]

I use this in Aurics

[slow spade]

its also good for stam

[orchid hemlock]

sorry i used braced like a chad for toughness regen

[slow spade]

Confirmed Kill + Out for Blood 🤔

[vapid nacelle]

are we comparing trees

oh no we're talking bolter

alright lemme stay very far away frm this discussion

[slow spade]

bolter :D

[orchid hemlock]

the best blessings on bolt

[slow spade]

you have my attention

UwU

[vapid nacelle]

is the yeehaw pistol good for boss damage

[stoic basalt]

what does that do anyway? like how long it takes for a full blast when aiming down sights?

[orchid hemlock]

when aimed down sights it is about 120 rpm

[slow spade]

I LOVE TOUGHNESS

[orchid hemlock]

so idk, 8 seconds?

[slow spade]

the Agri revolver (fan the hammer one) can be

[vapid nacelle]

yeah that one

the you've yee'd your last haw pistol

[orchid hemlock]

u forgot the best one

[slow spade]

iirc it has surprisingly good per shot damage on bosses

but bolter has better dps

[vapid nacelle]

I have no motivation to make a bolter :(

[slow spade]

I thought about it, but I figured getting both +25 toughness nodes would be more meme :p

[slow spade]

you don't have to, but it is the best boss dps ranged option for vet

[vapid nacelle]

ye I'm not looking purely for boss damage

just a ranged weapon that's good at it that I can also use for other stuff

[slow spade]

I figured, but wanted to mention so you had a "base line" to look at

[slow spade]

even the Helbore can do surprisingly good boss damage

[vapid nacelle]

I also just like fast to wield weapons

[slow spade]

oh

[vapid nacelle]

at least on my vet specifically

[slow spade]

to be frank, I

'm not very knowledgeable about what ranged weapons are good vs bosses

[vapid nacelle]

uh

[slow spade]

Vet is hardly lacking for anti-boss so I usually use melee or grenades

[vapid nacelle]

bolter laspistol vraks and yeehaw pistol are the ones I know are good for it

[slow spade]

I think the Vet guide covers a bit on how good a weapon is vs bosses

[vapid nacelle]

It does yeah

[slow spade]

huh just checked it now, I didn't know the lawbringer shotgun is decent vs bosses

[verbal burrow]

Like the plasma gun?

[verbal burrow]

I also love toughness

Why aura range tho

[verbal burrow]

Krak grenade

[slow spade]

because why wouldn't I share my love for toughness?

[slow spade]

true

[vapid nacelle]

I don't use the plasma gun either 😭

[jovial sluice]

not sure why but i'm starting to become burnt out

[bronze trout]

Did they nerf the recon recently? Feeling like it has less punch then the last time I used it

[frank basin]

i have poopoo aim 4 that

[arctic rampart]

how many hours

[verbal burrow]

Because your team showing basic unit coherence frees up a talent point

[tawny timber]

26/day

[somber adder]

Nope

[jovial sluice]

close to nearly 900 hours

dont like to state my hours due to dont want people thinking i'm a no lifer

[narrow frost]

Find new ways to challenge yourself or new ways to play

I'm at 2k hours

And I still haven't even used half the guns on vet

[dry cloak]

Then do

[narrow frost]

Nope

[dry cloak]

Why?

[narrow frost]

Already having fun with my shredder auto

[dry cloak]

Fair

[stoic thorn]

Holy shit I just got the all 4 classes in one team

[slow spade]

its a meme build...

[woven pilot]

is mobility the dump stat on the double barreled shotgun?

[jovial sluice]

Wonder if havoc when it releases that we will get new weapons

[frank basin]

I hope so. (hope is first step to damnation)

[split grove]

So from my own testing exe stance helps to hit rager breakpoints

but gunners already die from 1 headshout outside exec stance

are there any other breakpoints i hit with exe?

[jovial sluice]

Ok seriously what are break points

[frank basin]

Is like how much maximum damage you can one hit kill

Get all sources damage ability weapon blessing perk synergy hit max damage one hit kill

That’s breakpoint

[jovial sluice]

That’s a break point?

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[frank basin]

Like my plasma does two hit on gunner no crits and one tap with crits, sometime you can one tap gunner just equip perk like elite & unarmored + superior complex in talent and rending strike

[jovial sluice]

Literally just stacking damage? That’s all a breakpoint is?

[frank basin]

Kinda, just need kind sources damage increase against specific enemy in order maximize efficiency time to kill or ttk short for

[jovial sluice]

well fuck I feel silly

I always thought a breakpoint was just someone headshotting any of the enemies

[frank basin]

Like you use vrak autogun with dumdum blessing and racking fire, and bring it down (talent) stab yourself red stimm, use exe stance and kill beast of nurgle back of it maximum damage output to kill very fast.

[uncut pebble]

Well, a 1tap headshot is a breakpoint.

[stoic thorn]

I love mag dumping the boltgun it is so satisfying

[verbal burrow]

Just as the founding fathers intended

[verbal burrow]

More like having enough damage to kill a target in the desired number of hits

[hexed vale]

A breakpoint is the amount of damage where your htk changes. If an enemy has 1000 HP, then its breakpoints are 1000 damage for a one hit kill, 500 damage for a two hit kill, 334 damage for a three hit kill and so on.

[split grove]

what are the safest weapons for vet

like i just wanna reposition to a safe spot and boltor shit

[molten hound]

is there a way to turn off muzzle flash

some times its not that bright but other times its blinding and i cant see what im shooting at

idk what the deal is

oh those are crits

[low tapir]

Hey all, what would good stat rolls be for the Stub Revolver?
Rolled one with 70% dmg, 79% reload speed, 74% crit bonus, 79% mobility and 78% penetration on weeklies. Should I grab it?
I'd paste an image instead of writing this but it doesn't let me - probably because I'm new to the server

[molten hound]

looks good

the 70% damage roll kinda sucks

whats the damage

max is 504

[low tapir]

479 at 66% (470 power)

[somber adder]

Seems workable, usually you want to opt for 80 / 80 / 80/ 80 / 60 splits with a specific stat being a dumpstat but that's minmaxing and you can totaly not do it and have fun/success

[low tapir]

I'd like an orange high power weapon so I'm not stuck with the ones in 300 range that I can't upgrade (saving on upgrade resources)

[somber adder]

Yeah if you're just starting out that seems like a good weapon to play with and get the hang of things

[low tapir]

There's this spearhead boltgun with 80dmg/74 reload/80 collateral/72 mobility/74 stability but that gun's so slow

[stoic thorn]

I just heard my vet say Cadia Stands

FINALLY???

[somber adder]

Go for what you like to learn the basics of the game if resources are scarce. Once you've played a bunch and you're not starved for resources anymore it's a good time to start experimenting.

[molten hound]

the boltgun is overpowered

revolver is pretty fun and you will win most of your games if you can delete all specials and elites

[junior grail]

Question

How does the Tunnel Vision talent at the Marksman Focus keystone work? Is it toughness gained on getting a focus stack or gaining toughness continuously while having Focus stacks?

[jovial sluice]

The recon lasgun

Can it hit breakpoints

[grand perch]

breakpoints are not really important to recon lasguns

like with any high RoF weapon

[stoic thorn]

I got the Fire Wastes skin for my bolter because it reminds me on how I paint my Bolt Rifles

[split grove]

vraks and recon dont really care cos ur spraying a million bullets, guns that shoot 1 big shot every now and then care about those a lot

revolver boltor boltgun plasma

[jovial sluice]

LMG when?

[split grove]

play ogryn achlys

[jovial sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bubu-bubu-saying-no-gif-8213229391125889371

[split grove]

ogryn + gungryn F button + achlys = flame thrower lmg

[regal belfry]

why does the devil claw swords feel for me kinda weak now after a long time not using them

[jovial sluice]

is it just me or does iron willl feel like it does jack squat sometimes

[final hamlet]

so, deathspitter stacks, what is it with Fatshark, not being able to have correct Informations for everything?

So in total, its not 6,5% Strength, but its up to 32,5?!

[orchid hemlock]

Yes it stacks per kill

[final hamlet]

its interessting how much the game, evne when inspecting the weapons, doesent tell
reading the pinned guide feels mandatory

so, the Hot-Shot from Helbore Lasgun, who is ALWAYS ACTIVE, works also for the melee weapon/grenade, or just for also melee, without enhancing grenades (do they even benefit from cleave, prob. not)

[earnest bone]

there was previously some gamebreaking/changing mechanics in abilities that was never mentioned in the game

there's a mod for that

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/210

[final hamlet]

🤔 yeah, I used something like that in Vermintide 2, there it was annoying, since it required switching to modded realm

[frank basin]

Graia braced auto

[jovial sluice]

controller with combat knife

[verbal burrow]

It can brrr until the target drops

[paper fable]

guys what's the dump stat on the sapper shovel?

[earnest bone]

if you see defense, you dump defense, otherwise can dump mobility

[paper fable]

🫡

[verbal burrow]

As vet you will be expected to both melee and range tho

[split grove]

i just went with pow sword/rashad lol

non-crit, deals with anything

[verbal burrow]

Your options for high powered shots are essentially plasma gun, bolter and revolver. Out of those three, the revolver is the only one that can not penetrate cover

[verbal burrow]

You want one with everything at 80% except mobility

[lusty sapphire]

Do your bleed kills count for out for blood?

Anyone tested that?

THEY DO, THEY GODDAMN DO HOLY CRAP

Grenadier build just became even more broken

[earnest bone]

grenadier build no points for that

[green willow]

does rending stat effect grenades

also, is there any way to scale the damage of bleeding

[earnest bone]

Uncanny Strike blessing from knife/shovel/ds sword works, but you have a small window for throw

[earnest bone]

You can use Uncanny Strike for strong bleed vs crushers/maulers

[green willow]

that's just because it procs off of bleed

[earnest bone]

That's because rending works with bleeding

100% rending will make your bleed ignore armor

[lusty sapphire]

Plenty of points for a good grenadier build

I go with this now that i know out for blood works with bleed lol

didn't use medicae a single time the past 2 missions

[jovial sluice]

why am i mostly relying on my combat knife?

[lusty sapphire]

Good mobility makes up for dodge timing inexperience

[jovial sluice]

barely using my range weapon

[spice ferry]

That’s almost the build for plasma 🙂

[verbal burrow]

More like blending

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-golden-girls-hands-gif-24420157

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-spin-blender-gif-25702813

[jovial sluice]

This might sound dumb as all hel but ever since I started using the combat knife I’ve started to feel like more zealot than veteran

And that’s worrying me

[real shoal]

There's totally a world where you drop the swap speed and out for blood, as well as the extra ammo and elite damage and go grab onslaught on the right or grab the exploit weakness node. (Exploit Weakness is calculated separately from other brittleness stacks, so it's kinda fun to make use of)

Though I guess at the end of the day, uncanny strike gives like 100% rending on its own. So maybe it's all a wash…

[real shoal]

Heh, I used the Ogryn cleaver today and couldn't help but make the joke:

Look me in de eyes. I am de Zealot now.

[lusty sapphire]

I could but tbf I'm pretty comfortable with this setup since it allows the bolt pistol to still pull its own weight somehow

[lusty sapphire]

Also out for blood triggers on bleed kills

[jovial sluice]

Oi what anime is that profile picture from because I feel like I’ve seen it somewhere before

[lusty sapphire]

So I was fucking around with infinite toughness

It's broken

[real shoal]

Yeah Bistol doesn't interact with onslaught too heavily since you really can't just unload it like a lasgun/autogun.

But it's fun that onslaught works with both melee and ranged and stacks with exploit weakness (instead of sharing stacks like you'd get with Thunderous on a chain Axe)

[jovial sluice]

Guess I’ll never know

[lusty sapphire]

Manaria Friends

[real shoal]

Thank you, I just had to go look it up, lol.

[lusty sapphire]

Somehow i remember the name but not the name of the overall series/world lmao

[real shoal]

Grea from Manaria Friends. But I've never watched the anime. I know her from Granblue Fantasy, the mobile game. She's also in their other IP, Rage of Bahamut, which was a mobile tcg.

[lusty sapphire]

Now I'm tempted to build a thunderous+ bleed + weakness chaxes

[real shoal]

I most definitely did not use a Perpetuity Ring on all four of her alts despite her being a generally mediocre character. That never happened, nope.

[real shoal]

Ngl, I run that on as many vet builds as I do DS4.

[jovial sluice]

Ok I’ll totally watch it for the plot (seriously what plot it looks like it’s just fan service)

[real shoal]

I love it with any dot weapon. I even use it on Psyker.

[lusty sapphire]

Tbf, her dedicated anime is pretty alright for a slice of life

And Rage Of Bahamut is good even tho I never watched it

One of the anime I have in my immense watch eventually list

[real shoal]

Inferno staff to throw up all the soulblaze stacks, then rev on a boss to dump the bleed and rending on it. It doesn't make inferno staff a boss killer, but it puts it up with generic krak+gun vet.

[real shoal]

The basic gist is that Grea is socially outcast because she's a dragon girl and she makes some friends and really loves them and would do anything to protect them (including use her immense dragon powers)

The actual plot of her story arcs across the media varies, but that's basically it. Royal academy. Loner. Found friends.

It's definitely also Yuri bait.

[real shoal]

Oh, and funny note, but that totally 1-shots crushers. It requires the dot, and it's super tight, but it manages it.

[lusty sapphire]

You could probably easily do it without the dot but with thunderous and some more melee nodes

[real shoal]

You're probably generally better served with the Meta strength blessings, but I love that I can tap a random enemy with one tick of the rev and demolish their armor and stack a bleed on them and leave them prepared for burning or soulblaze to melt their hp.

Dots make me happy, lol

Chain Axe plus Flamer is funny too. Rev, bleed, burn.

[jovial sluice]

[real shoal]

And Zealot can take throwing knives to supplement the flamers shorter range. It's a build that really gels nicely if you forget the fact that DS4 can chain one-shot crushers and that jumping through other hoops is just doing it worse.

But that chain Axe tech has really allowed some of my builds that didn't function well into monsters suddenly put up very competitive numbers (outside of dedicated thammer/glugger bossing builds)

[jovial sluice]

What is the veteran chat the general chat for all classes

[real shoal]

Like, who'd expect the inferno psyker to outdamage casual plasma/krak rando in bossing?

[lusty sapphire]

Everyone plays more or less everything and eventually conversations bleed info from other classes

I'm an ogryn main for example

[jovial sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-jojo-anime-yare-yare-daze-good-grief-gif-21287237

I both hate the combat blade and I love the combat blade

The mobility is just to damn good makes diving allot more easier

And I can close the gap pretty damn easily or sprint, heavy attack while invis for a big speed boost oh and leave no one behind

[tough tiger]

I just use the taxe to get my knife fix without making the game easier

[raw needle]

what's the better chainsword mk in y'all's opinion?

[frank basin]

I have 13g

I haven’t seen you in here bladewolf

You been in modder server

[lusty sapphire]

Preference

[thick kestrel]

it does tend to be down to preference, the Mk4 tends towards heavies for carving through hordes but is a bit more versatile overall with what attacks work against what.

the 13g leans more into specialist attack patterns with a more explicit separation of lights vs hordes and heavies vs single target which is nice and simple.

overall the 13g is probably the more straight forward pick but the mk4 has some little tricks and quirks which lets it keep up.

the main one for me is that the mk4's push attack strike is a direct thrust which chains directly into a light overhead

the 13g on the other hand uses a slower vanguard style strike from the top left to the bottom right. which is better against hordes but I like my push attack follow up's being fast single target hits rather than slow anti-horde ones out of preference

fun fact! the mk4's push attack works as a good Rev-cancel combo for single targets

rev->pushattack is a very fast way to get in the rev strike and the thrust lets you aim for heads with it pretty easily

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/embrace-who-you-are-danny-roberts-the-real-world-homecoming-new-orleans-accept-who-you-are-believe-in-yourself-gif-26046999

also run serrated blades + mercy killer + uncanny strike

[frank basin]

It's the year of plasteel

[frank ether]

[verbal burrow]

yes

I occasionally go to zealot chat when I have a programmer moment

Which starts with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRypsbgslL8

But since it is the 41st millenium it ends up with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9V0bOB8sXQ&t=1s

And then ends with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-f-5ZpGDmQ

[umbral scaffold]

Overally which one is better? Infantry autogun or braced autogun?

[thick kestrel]

the IAG's tend to see more play overall. it's mostly down to the rather dominant Vraks/Columnus mk5 IAG which is honestly a bit overtuned (but immensely fun to use).

the Braced autos tend to be a bit more niche overall

I do need to dabble with them now that they've got those new blessings mind... the mobility related one for dumping the magazine seems kind of interesting (though mostly for meme purposes)

[umbral scaffold]

I currently run braced autogun which as i see is almost impossible for sniping snipers at distance but pretty efective at cleaning hordes

[timid wolf]

Do people who play Auric have some kind of bug up their butts? Every single Auric game I've played so far if they get mildly inconvenienced like being grabbed by a mutant they just quit.

[thick kestrel]

yeah, the braced autos are very much intended as closer range move and shoot weapons.

there was a point where the mk8 braced auto was an absolute deamon combined with exestance. way before the skill tree re-work.

[thick kestrel]

there's a thing with people trying to farm the auric title by cheesing the missions. if you disconnect without going down that doesn't count as a death for the 10 mission streak.

essentially hitting alt+f4 to force the disconnect and trusting that they can re-connect and "survive".

it's fairly poor form

[outer wolf]

Not a plasma user, so not sure which is better: gets hot or rising heat?

[tall torrent]

roughly equal

[brave cliff]

I run the agrippia I think it is, on my zealot and with the one perk of on dodge you get like -75% spread on top of that braced being the most accurate of the 3 I can consistently snipe the snipers lol

[verbal burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

Tho I replace one with Gloryhunter due to my crippling toughness addiction

[queen fox]

so what exactly does optimized cooling do

does it increase charge speed at low heat or high heat?

[tall torrent]

Continuous firing reduces heat generation per shot

It doesn’t do what the tooltip says it does

I have details in my guide

[queen fox]

...why

[tall torrent]

[queen fox]

as you describe it, it sounds good with blaze away

right?

[tall torrent]

Basically if u magdump it, it gives a few more shots before u have to vent

[tall torrent]

Yes

[terse idol]

Fatshergg

[queen fox]

ok lmao i was thinking it just did the same thing volatile does and i could stack them

[tall torrent]

Volatile is not very good

[faint beacon]

Obesefish

[terse idol]

[umbral scaffold]

Honestly...are smoke granades any good? I mean...are they good enough to pick them instead of those 2 options?

[tall torrent]

They do a specific thing well
It’s up to u to decide whether u want smth to do that specific thing

[umbral scaffold]

I think the best choice is the one that can instakill almost anything huge and armored even with shield

[tame lodge]

Well have fun with Kraks
Smokes are good

[hollow ibex]

smokes could use some QOL buffs

[grand perch]

would be cool if you could throw smokes as fast as zealots throw their fire nades

for some near instant smoke cover

[hollow ibex]

yeah faster fuse time, and wished they lasted a bit longer

or make them impact nades

[tall torrent]

They need to block bomber LoS

[umbral scaffold]

Why not make them gas granades

evil grin

[hollow ibex]

bro they don't

?

wtf

that's just trolling

[grand perch]

they are the notable exception to be ignoring smokes

the utter c*nts

[hollow ibex]

if they work against dogs, why don't they work against bombers

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[supple stag]

I guess you can't outgrenade the bomber

[tame lodge]

Different target acquisition system

Bombers target the floor near you

[hollow ibex]

i'm almost certain that's why

but it's not really an excuse for smoke not working against bombers lol

[tame lodge]

Why wouldn't it be?

It's a different target acquisition

[clever hedge]

Smoke your friends, smoke your team, smokes all the time 💨

[ocean idol]

What you think of infernus on laspistol?

[hollow ibex]

because from a gamplay perspective, it should prevent bombers from targeting you inside the smoke

[hearty panther]

awful

[hollow ibex]

it doesn't because the devs prob didn't bother accounting for it because of the different targeting mechanic lol

[hearty panther]

a bomber wouldnt care to strike precisely, only to area deny

[hollow ibex]

that's why i'm not saying it would be logical for smoke to block bombers

i'm saying that it'd make sense from a gameplay perspective

[hearty panther]

there's no real logic to the enemy seeing a smoke cloud, knowing enemies are in there, and looking down at his giant area denying fire grenade, think "oh no i cant throw this"

[hollow ibex]

if dogs get fucked by smoke

bombers should too

[hearty panther]

yes because the dog jump is a proje9

projectile

while youre in the smoke you cant be targetted like that

strictly speaking the real argument is dogs SHOULD hit you in smoke

[hollow ibex]

well yeah

that's my point, if from a gameplay perspective, it makes sense for smoke to block dogs, it should also block bombers

if we apply RL logic, there's no reason why dogs shouldn't be able to pounce on you in the smoke

or why shooters can't just spray into the smoke continuously

all that matters is the gameplay impact for something like this

[ocean idol]

or why infected don't just grab us with their masses

[hearty panther]

shooters do spray

[ocean idol]

in such numbers they would even kill space marines

[hollow ibex]

except when they pull out their melee weapons and charge into the smoke to their imminent demise

but nobody ever said heretics were the brightest

[hearty panther]

mostly i just absolutely do not want smokes to be bubble shield 2.0 with the ridiculous projectile delete

[queen fox]

Blood for the blood god

[hollow ibex]

shhhhh it's fiiiine

something something "SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE"

[queen fox]

my servo skull is sanctified by the ommnissiah

it does not belong to any throne besides the golden throne of terra

[umbral scaffold]

After trying to be as lore friendly as possible with my builds, i decided to use this "Convict Veteran" for autogun build

[broken gazelle]

trying to decide between Exploit Weakness and Serrated Blade for my last talent point

[tall torrent]

What does ur build look like

[willow talon]

Just finished the new event but I couldn’t find my new frame.

[tall torrent]

Scroll all the way to the bottom in cosmetics page

[narrow frost]

Isn't serrated only good for mercy killer knife?

I can't think of anything else that works with it

[broken gazelle]

bit messy right now as it's made mostly just to get penances.

[broken gazelle]

yea, bleed on it's own doesn't seem that useful.

[tall torrent]

I still don't know what build u have that the last luxury point comes down to 2 ultra niche talents that are usually bad

[broken gazelle]

krak/infiltrate/focustarget

[tall torrent]

Just show a whole build pls

[broken gazelle]

don't really know how else to show it other than screenshots

[tall torrent]

ok this is really bad, no offense

what weapons are u using

[faint beacon]

Passing out on Iron Will I’m going to tweak the fuck out

Lmao

[broken gazelle]

any weapon

usually knife or shovelle

[tall torrent]

shovel

this build can't afford to run knife optimally

[broken gazelle]

i only play on malice so it doesn't have to be meta or anything

[lusty sapphire]

Ah then it doesn't matter much

Still follow path's build

[faint beacon]

I recommend pushing yourself up to Heresy soon

[lusty sapphire]

Will make your life easier

[faint beacon]

And then damnation

Cause you get way better resources from damnation

That and you learn good habits

[broken gazelle]

i've been playing malice for 2 years.
I always say I'll go to Heresy one day but one day hasn't come yet haha

[faint beacon]

Cause Malice encourages a lot of bad habits I wont lie

[lusty sapphire]

For real? For how many hours

[faint beacon]

Remember Damnation isn’t even the absolute hardest

[broken gazelle]

currently 445 hours - I took a few breaks.

[faint beacon]

Damnation - Auric Damn - Maelstrom

It’s why I recommend getting settled into Damnation

[inland glade]

Oh my god I am falling in love with the speargun

Boltgun

[marsh condor]

Is Deadshot (still) good with Agrippina revolver?

[faint beacon]

Ehh

[broken gazelle]

thanks for the tips. Goes to show 450 hours doesn't mean I know anything.

[faint beacon]

It’s meh

It’s there

Crucian Roulette does a more effective job

[marsh condor]

Combine it with that.

[broken gazelle]

so what's good about Low Profile
teach me 🙏

[faint beacon]

If you want to put up with 1 less talent and low stamina

Suppose

[faint beacon]

Less threat means a lot of enemies don’t focus you

[marsh condor]

Lower stamina, I can work around that.

[faint beacon]

So you can literally back stab extremely dangerous specials

[marsh condor]

Low Profile is for when you want to be sneaky.

[inland glade]

Can someone explain to me what stats like Finesse, Strength, Cleave, Rend do?

[broken gazelle]

Definitely a good thing but I didn't think it was worth passing up on Surprise Attack.

[faint beacon]

Check pinned

The guide literally gives you everything in detail on what those mean

[inland glade]

Okay

[marsh condor]

It's also good for objectives and reviving allies after the cloak is gone.

[lusty sapphire]

A lot of them are a combination of stats, the guide has all the info for that

[inland glade]

Uh which one? Which pin/guide?

[broken gazelle]

So Focused Fire and Target Down! not worth taking , got it.

[lusty sapphire]

This one

[inland glade]

Thx

[lusty sapphire]

They get you diminishing returns. You already have toughness generation and dmg covered. The time those extra 3 stacks will be useful are few. Mainly bosses but they are easy to deal with

[broken gazelle]

I'm learning.
I feel a bit reluctant to drop Desperado but I'll take the advice

[tall torrent]

Target down is not bad
Focused fire is pure bait

Target down is usually a last-point luxury pick for utility & support

[tall torrent]

Shovel has low inherent finesse besides one attack so Crit & weakspot value is generally lower

[broken gazelle]

would it be more valuable to a knifer?

[tall torrent]

Yes
But knife veteran is extremely point taxing

You need a lot of points to run it optimally if you want to use it as a proper melee weapon

[faint beacon]

Well I mean you have a reason to be reluctant cause Desperado as a talent is fucking insane

[broken gazelle]

I only switched to Infiltrate to work on the related penance, but I'm starting to like it now

[faint beacon]

Just you’ll have builds that’ll pass out on it

[broken gazelle]

I neglected these Ability penances so long, so trying to work on Armourbane, Focus Soldier! and Unseen Predator at the same time.

going to try Iron Will too, since someone mentioned it

[tall torrent]

It’s basically mandatory

[broken gazelle]

I'll give it a try and see how it feels

[odd sparrow]

not mandatory but the survivability boost is insane and its near a bunch of other good upgrades on the tree

[hollow ibex]

you're gonna be going down that portion of the tree anyway, no reason to not take it unless you're playing on lower difficulties

[wooden sandal]

Hi does anyone know how to get the "columnus mk v infantry autogun". I cant seem to find that version on the infantry autogun

[narrow frost]

its name was changed to the vraks mk 5

[wooden sandal]

Oooh oke thx

[languid dune]

Haven't played in ages but what actually is the better of the Brauto guns?

I always used the Agrip (Mk VIII)

[hollow ibex]

that's the best one

[grand perch]

graia is the other good one, but most people would put the agrip a cut above

[split grove]

agrip is ak47

[lavish dove]

heyo, can someone explain to me why weapon specialist is more meta than focus target or marksman's focus? if i understand it correctly it basically gives 15% attack speed on melee swap and some dodge distance/speed, attack speed on ranged ( but that doesn't seem to synergize with the weapons it's usually used with) and a guaranteed crit hit, + the ammo refill if you take it

to me that just seems kinda so-so

but i know im wrong, i just want to understand why it's so valued

[frank basin]

Those are meme

[split grove]

what build are you going for

[lavish dove]

ive seen two builds so far, one is revolver, other is plasma but both generally use the same talents

[split grove]

revolver is no brainer

pull it out pew, smack

[lavish dove]

generally this

[split grove]

People take more nodes for weapon spec?

Lol

where did u hear its meta tho

[lavish dove]

it does mean you can always take one shot with your plasma gun i guess?

[frank basin]

It’s better not from Reddit it’s better not from Reddit

[lavish dove]

youtube 😄

[frank basin]

NOOOO

[split grove]

tanner lindburg?

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[lavish dove]

there was also this wait

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1b6648-4968-4b00-a3b8-4d1883cffd95/kharns-saltzpyre-vet-carry-clutch-auric-maelstrom

but this one is pistol ye

Tanner's is plasma

[frank basin]

You know gameslatern is mostly troll as some professional here said

But alright

[past haven]

It's probably a meme-build, but I love running weapon specialist with the Double-barrel. Always have one barrel loaded. Fun as hell, probably not meta

[tame lodge]

Good melee pathing
Good Elite damage
Good hot swap

[frank basin]

And tanner lindberg is a mixbag

He get half correct half incorrect

Or more incorrect most time

[lavish dove]

im just beginning to learn to not die terribly in maelstrom so I kinda defer to these guys on builds 🙂

[split grove]

i don't hotswap much because i like playing ranged

[lavish dove]

generally they seem to know their stuff

[split grove]

When i have to melee i go ugh and pull out a rashad

so i get no value from weapon spec

[lavish dove]

so i guess it just makes vet more well rounded?

[frank basin]

Gale said rashad is baby Mode

Lmao

[split grove]

i play hsword i miss rashad, i play pow sword, i miss rashad, i play knife, i miss rashad

So whatever

Focus target exe stance boltor

Then reluctantly pull out the rashad for melee

[frank basin]

What about dueling sword?

[split grove]

I like d sword but no slots for desperado

It'll be 5% crit ds4

[frank basin]

Riposte work

[split grove]

also i just boltor everything

[lavish dove]

aight, ty guys, ill keep trying to play with this, it just feels a bit weird going from the constant ranged gameplay of recon lasgun 😄

[split grove]

Dude if u play recon lasgun

U dont take any keystones

Then u just hold lmb

it's the best

[lavish dove]

i took marksman with it

[split grove]

Nah screw that

[frank basin]

Lol

Marksman focus

[split grove]

Take shock trooper 5% crit node

[frank basin]

Niche sort off

[split grove]

Desperado onslaught

No keystones hold lmb gameplay

One of my favorites but it's giga boring

[frank basin]

Mine played graia braced auto.

[split grove]

I play it once i have to swap out for a bit then go back

[lavish dove]

thought mf's bigly finesse bonus is pretty hefty, i guess it's better for when i use vraks

[split grove]

For vraks i just go focus target or keystoneless again

There's plenty of stuff to pick instead of keystones

[frank basin]

Marksman focus need rework

Deplete stack not fun for me

[lavish dove]

i mean is your problem that the stacks fall off for moving?

bc they are pretty easy to upkeep

and you can generally move just gotta pop some heads every now and then

and you get stacks back extremely quick too

[split grove]

Well with vraks u hit their head and they die in 2 hits

or 3 hits

so why bother staying still

[lavish dove]

or is it just not worth to get like 100% finesse dam

[split grove]

also vraks is close dmg

dumdum deathspitter

run at em and pew pew pew head

[frank basin]

Vrak is kick like horse how you gonna land headshot if you trying semi shooting it

Specially dmg has fallout

[split grove]

if u mag dump the vraks it becomes a laser so

[lavish dove]

it's really not that difficult, you just shoot heads at mid/close range?

[split grove]

not that hard

What blessings u using on vrak

[lavish dove]

and you can learn the recoil

[dry cloak]

Then try columnus8

[lavish dove]

those 2 death spitter, dum dum

[split grove]

u need to be in 15m to get the value

cos those 2 are close range

[lavish dove]

sure

you can still get the stacks at that range

[split grove]

as in as u grind them down u gotta go forward

i play hipfire lol

[lavish dove]

just aim into horde head height and you'll get stacks

i like to AMS

[split grove]

i walk at them and hipfire every single head i see

[copper cedar]

Hey fellow vets

im lookin at the recon las

[frank basin]

Another one

[copper cedar]

im thinkin Dumdum Headhunter

im a new vet to be fair

[split grove]

if u do headhunter u combo with infernus

[copper cedar]

im trying to cycle through em

[frank basin]

More marksman focus

[split grove]

if u do dumdum u can do deathspitter or infernus

for veteran in particular dumdum deathspitter and u just walk within 15m and mag dump them they will die in seconds

for psykers they gotta go infernus no matter what

[frank basin]

Because they get 10%

1/10 crit chance

Aura and the node

[hearty panther]

well

not quite

10% and 7.5% base for 17.5% crit, plus Scriers for another 20%, plus your actual weapons

[split grove]

i love gunker

[hearty panther]

true aim also guaranteeing crits after five headshots with anything

but all that said you still dont really care for infernus, or shouldnt

[copper cedar]

so flak unarmored?

[hearty panther]

it's really not that great

[frank basin]

I think I start talking about passive

[copper cedar]

and Dumdum Deathspit

[frank basin]

Could go maniac and flak

[copper cedar]

Okies

[hearty panther]

tbh for me critmaxxing, besides damage, is just to have Emphatic Evasion up as much as possible

[split grove]

vraks is flak for sure then last one is your choice

if u wanna kill boss u unyield

[hearty panther]

that node pulls a lot of defensive weight but you gotta be critting

[frank basin]

Empathic evasion is free ghost

[hearty panther]

nah Ghost is just on headshots

this one is on crits

arguably ghost is better and i dont take EE if i have a gun with ghost

but EE you can proc in melee, so still depends on your melee too

[frank basin]

I don’t land headshot easily

[hearty panther]

you are basically invisible to guns if youre critmaxxing a taxe or knife

[frank basin]

Or ds

[hearty panther]

so long as there's something to hit and something to hit it with

[split grove]

maybe i'll see if i can dump some perks for desperado ds4

[ancient path]

whats some good devil claw blessings?

[frank basin]

I still have savage sweep and rampage

[ancient path]

word

pretty much the same

wondering if there was something cooler

[frank basin]

If I remember someone said shred and rampage

[ancient path]

tempted to try out shovel

[arctic rampart]

there's nothing wrong with shovel, but rashad has the same mobility. pretty much down to do you like bonk or more damage

[ancient path]

ye. ive just yet to get one in melks

[arctic rampart]

I think the new shovel has the aoe lights and the fold big attack heavy for easy pattern but I see a lot of long-time players saying they prefer mk1

T.dmg (Flak)
Uncanny Strike 
Decimator / Thrust``` so uncanny + your choice

[H1 → H2]
Single target:
[SP → s.L1] → [L3 → L4 → PA``` I could have sworn one of them had light spam for hordes

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sapper-shovel/munitorum-mk-vii-sapper-shovel ahh L3 L4 are strikedowns... yuck

[idle swallow]

As long as you got kraks and/or a good anti carapace ranged option, mk1 shovel is a very reliable and straightforward horde melee option

[arctic rampart]

I prefer light spam for horde, so for me it's unattractive compared to other options. Sure someone more skilled will be great with it

[idle swallow]

Yeah then BM Rashad is probably your pick then

[exotic zodiac]

screaming my way through Auric missions with this build

[idle swallow]

I saw that

[exotic zodiac]

I bet you did 😅

[inner surge]

anyone on here have steam id like to have consistent team mates and im fairly new to this game ive only had it since the start of this year and i havnt played much.

my veteran is only lvl 13 and my ogryn is almost 15

[frank basin]

Uhhh you means looking for someone to play?

[inner surge]

yeahy\

[frank basin]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

Here you can use lfg for random people

Plus voice chat

[ancient path]

marksman focus or focus target for executioner revolver gameplay? 🤔

[frank basin]

Focus target

You’ll be move a lot with revolver dodge left and right

[vapid nacelle]

??

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

Hey I made that resemble on autopistol shredder

[frank basin]

That straight up look like destiny 2

[vapid nacelle]

I'm confused, when was the yeehaw pistol a problem 😭

[umbral scaffold]

apparently this is cyberpunk so ima delete it

[frank basin]

I did yeehaw pistol nobody bat an eye, probably you met one guy who is meta player

[ancient path]

the holy colt 1911 transends space and time

[vapid nacelle]

I don't even remember what they were running

[cedar grail]

In the 41st millenium, there is 45ACP

[ancient path]

its like the ak47

[vapid nacelle]

actually no I remember

they were power sword recon las

[frank basin]

Least meta

[umbral scaffold]

m16

[frank basin]

Power sword and recon kinda weird combo

Not fit stereotype

[vapid nacelle]

and I outdamaged them with a shovel and a purple spam revolver that had a whopping 4% reload speed stat

but I was the problem apparently lol

[umbral scaffold]

@solar pumice

[frank basin]

What’s am I looking at?

[vapid nacelle]

at this point Idk anymore

Idk how to set this board LOL

this was what the psyker chat told me to set it to

[ancient path]

where the fuck is this gun fatshark

[frank basin]

Don’t fall into toxicity

[vapid nacelle]

I'm not

[frank basin]

And taur did out damage your revolver

[frank basin]

You’re like a little behind

[ancient path]

i still want sniper rifles 😔

revolver is the closest we'd get

[vapid nacelle]

they did out damage my revolver, but I expected as much given that the revolver in question:

but still like

I pulled my weight

Idk what they were smacking about lol

[umbral scaffold]

helbore exists

[frank basin]

It hate revolver build

[ancient path]

i prefer bullets than lasers.

[vapid nacelle]

I've just about never had anyone talk trash like this for the most of the time I've played this game

but now they're crawling out of the woodwork

[frank basin]

@vapid nacelle
I means I met a dude from long time ago before talent revamp was a thing

He complain me using recon on damnation

He has scoreboard

We got wipe and he blame me

The bulwark kill one teammate and I try help team up I get killed

[maiden oasis]

Man I used to draw weapon spreads like that in middle school, I didn't even find out about 40k until college.

[vapid nacelle]

yeah I almost never got this until just recently lol

[frank basin]

Go to mod option and under scoreboard there’s setting you can turn on and off things

[vapid nacelle]

the most I'd ever get was knife zealots running off and dying, yelling at the team and then leaving

which is typical

[frank basin]

It make you more comprehend reading score

[frank basin]

Is very rare for me to see that

I haven’t see knife zealot dying ahead of us rushing

Mostly like malice difficulty they do that

[vapid nacelle]

yeah it doesn't happen often

[frank basin]

Play damnation

[vapid nacelle]

I only play auric and auric maelstrom now

[tawny timber]

bro what is stealth vet even about

[frank basin]

Most my team either competent or braindead

[frank basin]

Stealth clutch

[frank basin]

Damn straight I’m just normal damnation

[vapid nacelle]

yeah the other difficulties are just boring

[tawny timber]

real

[vapid nacelle]

I helped a guy in psyker chat with the brain rupture monstrosity penance on heresy

and I was so bored lol

nothing did damage

[frank basin]

Maelstrom I can’t trust random pub teammate

[vapid nacelle]

everything died in like 3 seconds

[frank basin]

Auric is alright some competent player but feel like normal damnation

[wild vortex]

What makes Heresy boring af is the negative density

[frank basin]

Is a stress test

Auric maelstrom is a stress test

I play normal damnation like is my breakfast

[vapid nacelle]

idk even auric mael isn't hard enough sometimes lol

[frank basin]

Maelstrom has some shitty modifier I don’t like

[vapid nacelle]

I'm regularly going into maelstroms with unupgraded weapons just to progress the mastery faster and doing fine still

[frank basin]

Like ammo struggle is real

I’ve been there

Whole team is out of ammos

[vapid nacelle]

I just don't play my vet for those

I bring my ogryn

[frank basin]

No like I play ogry and everyone is hunger of ammo

I see orange and red

[vapid nacelle]

yeah

I don't really use my gun in those anyway

[frank basin]

Yeah problem I bring is rumbler

[vapid nacelle]

I use kickback

[frank basin]

I still love explosive

[vapid nacelle]

which doesn't really do anything to most of them

so I just save the shots for snipers and trappers

[frank basin]

My guess is you’re using the club

[vapid nacelle]

nope

my beloved Thunderous Karsolas

[frank basin]

I see you’re user then

[vapid nacelle]

👍

holy mother of "you aren't allowed to play the game" modifier

[frank basin]

You wanna give a go?

[vapid nacelle]

I just did it

it was about as boring as expected lol

[frank basin]

Oh okay

[vapid nacelle]

the beasts of nurgle were entertaining

the pox gas was not

[frank basin]

It keep sprewing periodically

Like tox bomber

But very wide area

Not my kind

[sour elbow]

what's the dump stat for plasma and spearhead (big) bolter? Levelling them

[midnight totem]

that looks like a painful modifer setup

mobility

collateral can be too

[sour elbow]

ta

reccomended blessings?

[frank basin]

Shatter impact/puncture something

Pinning fire/surgical

[sour elbow]

is ammo or thermal dump for plasma?

[vapid nacelle]

neither

Plasma gun wants 69% thermal resist and 71% charge rate

[sour elbow]

that seems extremely specific

[vapid nacelle]

and it is

Plasma gun's the only weapon with that issue

[frank basin]

Is hard to roll that kind stats

[hollow ibex]

Pretty sure you shouldn’t dump collateral on bolter

[frank basin]

Cuz you get 4 80% and 60%

[vapid nacelle]

it is possible to get that specific roll it's just RNG hell

[frank basin]

I did said it

[vapid nacelle]

I think it's fine to take some %s out of ammo to make sure those numbers are where they need to be or slightyl higher though

[frank basin]

If is stats slider it would be change the whole game

[sour elbow]

It's not really that much of an issue tbh. I'm a lasgun/helbore kinda guardsman tbh, but I'm levelling the masteries so hey, why not get 'the gun' for them

[earnest bone]

You can bring survivalist to the most sweaty ones

or No Ammo

[sour elbow]

Depends on the setup. I lasrifle and I'm usually fine, even without the trait for ammo on crits.

I find it's when you have a guardsman with a plasma that fires into poxwalkers or gungryn, though tbf that's usually because their builds just chug ammo

Fun watching a gungryn open up though, tends to melt anything

[frank basin]

I was second thought on survivalist but i was in game and non team have survivalist

I run specific build

[earnest bone]

if you already got survivalist on team, then that's fine

[frank basin]

That was yesterday

No survivalist

[vapid nacelle]

oh dear god not again

[earnest bone]

[frank basin]

Can you handle pubbie?

[vapid nacelle]

I can handle pubs

I can handle this map usually

but 3veg on Clandestium is so, so painful

[frank basin]

And damnation

[vapid nacelle]

welp time to do it anyways

[frank basin]

Well, do you need a merc?

[vapid nacelle]

see you guys 12 wipes from now

[vapid nacelle]

I'll be alright

I'll just play normal auric if this keeps going wrong lol

[frank basin]

Lobotomized

[vapid nacelle]

it didn't go well

dh knocked someone off the map

psyker downed

chaos spawn grabbed me and the other ogryn wouldn't get in melee range to make it drop me so i just died to a flamer in its grasp

[frank basin]

gg

I would die with you anyway

That scenario is maelstrom of stress test

And player are lobotomized in the game

[jovial sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-dalek-gif-20504612

[vapid nacelle]

it's going this time

it's definitely going.

we made it past the first part at least

[thorny cobalt]

Natural state of being for psykers

[fossil basalt]

we're either downed all the time or the last one alive, there is no inbetween

[faint beacon]

90% of psykers are this

break from the cycle

[thorny cobalt]

Carry or be carried 💪

[untold mulch]

Psykers feel like they are either so cracked that they are IRL divinators

[vapid nacelle]

it was a run

[untold mulch]

or "oops 100% a third time in a row"

[vapid nacelle]

shoutout to the zealot and psyker being competent enough to make up for the fact that I kept getting flung fucking everywhere by the monstrosities lmao

and also picking up the vet

[jovial sluice]

seems i'm mostly using my combat blade to dive

to mostly successful degree

unless someone steals my target

[unborn ridge]

hey guys

how good is claw

devils claw sword

and what mark

[hollow ibex]

IV is is prob the most commonly used

it's aight

[austere mica]

mk4 or mk7

[hollow ibex]

it's good as a "sidearm"

[austere mica]

Which ever moveset you like more

[hollow ibex]

the parry is very nice, but everything else about the weapon is thoroughly mid

[austere mica]

and shred rampage

[austere mica]

Mostly because its flak ADM is utter ass

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[odd wind]

anyone else getting bad fps, and desync on enemy animations? im on 3080 ti 5800x3d

[patent birch]

power sword perks?

[spring jay]

258.7k Boss Damage...what the actual flying fk is up with all these Monstrosities

[patent birch]

why cleave dump

[queen fox]

You get more cleave than you need anyways, might as well take mobility

[orchid hemlock]

You already reach the maximum amount of targets you can cleave thru by 51%

4 normal, 9 when empowered

[hearty panther]

i made the mistake of using mk5 dsword with wepspec

i have never self ledged myself nor taken so much fall damage before

-movetec dodges off a crate for distance-
-accidentally clears the entire fucken catwalk and eats dirt off the side-

[serene bough]

Any idea what this grim protocol update is

[jovial sluice]

no @narrow frost just no

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/memefi-lfg-go-memeguana-don-guan-gif-235455653505567543

[queen fox]

Mk5 is my favorite I love zooming around and 1hitting everything

[hearty panther]

the dodges were simply too powerful

i was unprepared

[jovial sluice]

look closely

[idle swallow]

hard to read reports of ligma and bofa

[serene bough]

Ty

[tall torrent]

Orthus offensive 2

[serene bough]

Rinda again

[hearty panther]

Orthus 2 Fense: The Returnening

[tame lodge]

Zolander

[jovial sluice]

read more closely you gronk its about wolfer and rinda

[fading yarrow]

There's something nice about queuing with two players who are clearly grouped

It's like, "Damn, Darktide players have friends"

[jovial sluice]

the heck are those

[lost elk]

is collateral the dumpstat on recon lasguns?

[narrow frost]

Yes

[lost elk]

[jovial sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/goma-cat-nod-gif-10363630855706579942

[tame lodge]

Yeah
It's only stagger on Recons

[broken gazelle]

my recon has dumped mobility sadly

[spark helm]

I dumped mobility, doin just fine.

[jovial sluice]

yeah I did the same

[unborn ridge]

yo

@tall torrent

do u have a cool build for bolt pistol?

[jovial sluice]

[unborn ridge]

theres no bolt pistol build there bro

[tall torrent]

Uh
Honestly I’d tell u to use Boltgun unless u wanna run grenadier

[unborn ridge]

boltgun reload time and swap time is a lot longer than the pistol

in the guide it said it had better breakpoints so i thought itwas good

[tall torrent]

Yea it also puts out like 3x the kill efficiency

[tall torrent]

Nah, it’s worse

[queen fox]

what curios do you guys run

[unborn ridge]

sadness

but i wanna try a grenadier build

[tall torrent]

what melee do u want

[unborn ridge]

knife if possible

for mobility

[tall torrent]

oh, too bad

[junior haven]

luv me some bolt pistol. luv head shotting with a rocket propelled bullet.

[tall torrent]

Knife on vet is really point taxing

[unborn ridge]

oof

even with the dodge blessings only?

[tall torrent]

It’s not compatible with pretty much every gun that wants specific damage nodes

[unborn ridge]

give me another melee then

one u recommend

[tall torrent]

Idk what u wanna use

[junior haven]

don't deny the love in your heart.

if you wanna knife. knife.

[unborn ridge]

rashad

[unborn ridge]

what nodes do knife call for

only serrated steel?

[unborn ridge]

noicee tyy

[tall torrent]

No

[tall torrent]

Green are good + either blue

Serrated blade only matters for mercy killer

[fast sundial]

what's the word on skirmisher

hot or not?

[tall torrent]

It’s not worth it basically ever

Uptime is meh and activation is wonky