veteran-class

[deft crystal]

Shock trooper

[mild hill]

Any of you guys know a good stealth build. ?

[deft crystal]

but ammo management

[deft crystal]

Let me give u one rq

[full nacelle]

yeah I feel that

[wet ether]

like a gun that can tear apart mostly any enemy up until bulwark can be used to mag dump into a horde than switching to a melee weapon

[full nacelle]

I gotchu! you want ranged or melee?

[deft crystal]

Lets compare stealth vet

[mild hill]

Show me both If that’s fine with you

[inner temple]

Nah helbore has plenty of ammo tbh. Long as you hit headshots anyway. Course you're gonna run low the entire time but that's the best part.

[inner temple]

This reminded me I need to redo my vet loadouts since I'm lvl 30 now.

[deft crystal]

2 toughness and 1 stam curios

[full nacelle]

vraks/agripinaa infantry autogun, infantry lasguns, laspistol, and recon lasgun... and Zarona shotgun if you run a VERY specific build

[wet ether]

luke you seen my quirky build

[deft crystal]

Kraks to deal with anything to big

[mild hill]

Is exploit weakness not worth it ?

[full nacelle]

Sure! I'll start you off with one of my favorites. A ranged stealth build that suppresses EVERYTHING instantly. Let me update it in the build maker real quick.

[wet ether]

really an extra nade?

[deft crystal]

I despise my teamates

[full nacelle]

Nah it's way too situational and by the time you apply it stuff is already dead. Only really good for bosses.

[deft crystal]

they can help themselves

[full nacelle]

I don't think so! Send it my way and I'll check it out in a sec

[uncut pebble]

Use mercy killer instead of precog if you're running serrated blade.

Infinitely higher uptime that way.

[deft crystal]

Yeah about that

IM A LAZY MF

(ur right)

[uncut pebble]

Was about to say...

[deft crystal]

I keep forgetting to change it

I have 2 knives

[uncut pebble]

If youre using a knife correctly mercy killer is even less brain power to make function.

[wet ether]

@full nacelle

[deft crystal]

do me a favor go into the sim. and heavy attack with ur knife while spamming 1

[mild hill]

Ah I see that makes sense

[deft crystal]

Do not let go of the heavy

enjoy being sonic

[full nacelle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5bd04c-2366-4243-b672-e006eeb81d2b/say-hello-to-my-little-friend

here's the ranged stealth build! SUPER fun

lots of dakkadakka

takes full advantage of suppression... the only build in the game that really does honestly

[deft crystal]

I immediatley went to the bottom to see if u had rending

AND U DO MF

[full nacelle]

ahhhh yeeeee

[deft crystal]

U DO NOT NEED THE RENDING IF W DUELING SWORD

NO BUILD NEEDS RENDING

[full nacelle]

you do with Graia braced man

[deft crystal]

CRUSHERS ARENT REAL AND CANT HURT U

[full nacelle]

rending helps you shred all armored targets

[full nacelle]

this is true and I won't dispute this

and let me grab one of my melee ones real quick

[deft crystal]

I do approve of the onslaught tho

u could get desperado if u take off rending

[full nacelle]

yeah I could see that but I just use the gun 99% of the time with this build

it's so much fun

[deft crystal]

Also fire frenzy and deathspitter

not fire frenzy and dum dum

Oh wait

[uncut pebble]

Dumdum is better for onslaught.

[deft crystal]

death spitter would do more dmg

on base

[uncut pebble]

Dumdum deathspitter is best.

[full nacelle]

no dum dum

braced autoguns don't get that

fartshark racist

[deft crystal]

OH ITS BRACED

[mild hill]

I see I see thanks you two it’s been a lot of help

[deft crystal]

ew

[uncut pebble]

Oh brauto...

[mild hill]

I just had to change a few nodes

[uncut pebble]

That's where I have to beat you with a hammer now...

I fuckin HATE brautoguns.

[deft crystal]

Its honestly really hard to mess up any vet build.

[mild hill]

Yeah that’s true

[deft crystal]

U just choose a weapon and synergize

[uncut pebble]

For normal thinking people, I'd agree with you. Unfortunately 80ish% of darktide players are not normal thinking people.

[deft crystal]

HOWEVER HELBORE IS THE BANE

[mild hill]

I love hell bore !!

[full nacelle]

Anytime! Happy to help! Here's the melee one. Kind of a frontline dodge tank build that also supports its allies through Born Leader and quick rezes.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5a0b37-5b25-4a27-8223-5e7bba37a021/melee-vet-stabby-boomstick

Two extremely different playstyles. Both super fun. Both stealth vets.

[deft crystal]

its really hard to put less experienced players who dont know how to manage space or position well

on a helbore

Which is exactly why i put them on it

[full nacelle]

I need to stop slacking and make my build vods already...

it's gonna happen I swear

oh yeah I did see this one! honestly my only real problem is not getting reciprocity for more crit chance for more recon lasgun burns

I would drop competetive urge for that personally

[wet ether]

oh i did make 1 small change earlier

[deft crystal]

No sup complex or precision?

[full nacelle]

yeah I would also always try to take precision strikes on every build

30% weakspot damage is always amazing

[deft crystal]

3 nodes I put on every build is precision, fully loaded and sup complex

UNLESS

[full nacelle]

but again, I understand if you're doing your own quirked up thing

[deft crystal]

I am running supp

[full nacelle]

if I'm running a FULL melee build I only grab precision strikes but yeah otherwise I take all 3

[oblique sparrow]

I know it's mostly my faultbut why do teams always suck at killing specialists

like vets do all the work

[full nacelle]

because they're waiting on you to carry them

tbh vets usually are THE special snipers of the team

[oblique sparrow]

I usually die because my team doesn't do their job of crowd control

[full nacelle]

yeah it happens... always good to take a look at everyones builds before the game and make sure you're in a good spot to run your build

but nothing to really be done about bad teammates

[deft crystal]

Welcome

to the first ever

supp vet

With this build your teamates will love and appreciate the toughness, ammo, and grenades you provide

[austere mica]

Those are some

Interesting choices

[deft crystal]

oh trust me

I know

i hesitated

[full nacelle]

Oh I forgot to say this build is great but no Always Prepared with revolver?! you're living dangerously there son

[austere mica]

Charismatic over confirmed kill is special

[deft crystal]

on every choice

[austere mica]

Especially when it’s the best way to utilize born leader

[deft crystal]

oh ye

drop gren regen for it

[austere mica]

Oh gods get back in the fight

[deft crystal]

my bad

[full nacelle]

I'm gonna have to stop you there king

[deft crystal]

I like put these together in seconds

[full nacelle]

you can't take a Born Leader build and not have toughness regen talents

[deft crystal]

Let me COOK

[full nacelle]

SORRY SORRY

[austere mica]

That +10% toughness replenishment node is ass

Like

Even for support (which isn’t very good)

[deft crystal]

I looked for every team oriented node

[austere mica]

It’s terrible

[deft crystal]

and pathed for it

[full nacelle]

yeah it really is bad unfortunately

even on a full support build

[deft crystal]

Its garbage

[full nacelle]

do you want my support builds?

[deft crystal]

nah

[full nacelle]

could give you something to compare

aight

[deft crystal]

imma stick with this maniac of abuild

[full nacelle]

please take confirmed kill

[deft crystal]

And bring it into auric mael

[full nacelle]

if you're running born leader

please

sir

for the children

[deft crystal]

NO

[full nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/asian-anime-funny-crying-gif-5139928

[idle swallow]

Be a good support vet by murdering all the specials and shooters from a distance

[deft crystal]

just so you dont lose your head

[full nacelle]

I don't see confirmed kill

[deft crystal]

lmao

[full nacelle]

I'm pannicking

and shidding

[deft crystal]

out of sight

[full nacelle]

and farding

[deft crystal]

out of mind

[full nacelle]

you're killing me

I'm dying

[full nacelle]

just for that I'm posting MY stupid support build

OH

[deft crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/god-pray-jesus-christ-sign-of-the-cross-gif-5701179

[full nacelle]

bless

bless the Emprah

best build

10/10

[wet ether]

its beautiful

[deft crystal]

Best supp build for vet is one that kills every thing

OH YEAH

700k game the other day

[full nacelle]

only blocked 15 attacks

I'm afraid I'm gonna have to give you an F

[deft crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/len'en-tenkai-zuifeng-reactivate-majestical-imperial-rmi-len'en-project-gif-14130042771584911951

[full nacelle]

nah good job tho ilu

[deft crystal]

I spam dodge

why block

[full nacelle]

same, I like shaking my thicc vet ass around

can't touch this

[deft crystal]

if u watched my gameplay

youd have a heart attack

I literally spam stims like a drug addict

[oblique sparrow]

Well that sucked lol

Hald the time my team dies

I guess that's Maelstorm

[deft crystal]

This was maelstrom and I had 10 rescues 💀

[full nacelle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5bd976-7245-495e-89af-1ad6e2ac3b32/autopistol-support-for-idiots-me-2

here's one of my support builds

[deft crystal]

NO

YOU TOOK SELFISH TALENTS

[full nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-9864414

[deft crystal]

UNPATH FROM THAT LEFT SIDE U MF

[full nacelle]

but dad

[deft crystal]

Im getting my belt

nah

[full nacelle]

[deft crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/kemer-gif-12613115

[full nacelle]

but daddy

[deft crystal]

Commisar dukane this one right here. Hes the slanesh cultist

https://tenor.com/view/rsx4-gif-21328683

[full nacelle]

can't prove it

[deft crystal]

I had a few bad games

because my volume was low

[full nacelle]

lol ur bad

[deft crystal]

Then i realized my volume mixer setting was at 1% on darktide

[full nacelle]

that's a whoopsie

[deft crystal]

SO I WAS JUST GETTING DISABLED LEFT AND RIGHT

thinking it was sound que bug

[full nacelle]

ears are bugged

gg go next

[deft crystal]

I am bad

good at putting builds together but terrible at using em

I have the skill issue disease 😭

[full nacelle]

I think you're pretty and that's all that matters

[deft crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-eeehh-smilewink-gif-22549662

[full nacelle]

ok I need to go tf to sleep so I can actually edit those build vods tomorrow

[deft crystal]

dont forget

to give me a shoutout

for all ur inspriation

[deft crystal]

Im expecting a loyalty of 10%

Im sueing

[full nacelle]

[deft crystal]

OI

NO
NO NO

U MF

[full nacelle]

and with that I take my leave

[deft crystal]

I will find you

[full nacelle]

you better

g'night varlets

[deft crystal]

Pre servitors you mean

I love how quickly we all adopted that name

[wet ether]

seriously when will fat shark fix thay out of memory shit

[austere mica]

I think that’s a mods moment

[wet ether]

i only have like 20 mods

[austere mica]

You have weapon customization

[wet ether]

yes

[austere mica]

That’s enough I think

[leaden skiff]

The hell are you using?

[deft crystal]

do u want my full build

its just the standard meta vet

[leaden skiff]

I'm old and it takes me a minute to catch up, sure, what's the meta XD

[deft crystal]

'

[grand perch]

thats so meta zuckerberg is suing for copyright infringement

[leaden skiff]

Been needing to figure out a new melee. The duelling sword doesn't clear hordes like I want it to

[grand perch]

(except for combat aiglity regeneration on curio possibly)

[deft crystal]

Pls noooo

[full nacelle]

rashad combat axe

I didn't go to bed btw

I'm watching a movie in bed

[grand perch]

thats going to bed technically

[full nacelle]

so true

[full nacelle]

ummm why confirmed kill? are you some kind of troglodyte?

[deft crystal]

I'm going to

[full nacelle]

missed you too buddy

[deft crystal]

(Insert 22 year old insult here)

Gotta be careful this ain't the gc

[deft crystal]

Honestly with that build u never use gun

Only use it for ranged enemies or disables

[full nacelle]

I think I have a problem

I think I have a fetish for the Rashad

why does it have to be so good?

[deft crystal]

It feels so good

Well the power sword feels better

But u have to activate it

[austere mica]

Power sword sleepy as hell

Rashad too

[full nacelle]

I dunno. Power Sword is fun until I'm stuck panic activating it as poxwalkers clap me.

[hollow ibex]

that's part of the fun

[deft crystal]

I prefer chain sword

[full nacelle]

true

[deft crystal]

Chain sword is the best weapon

[hollow ibex]

rashad is literally just spam lmb

[deft crystal]

So is shredder pistol

Both are best in game

[full nacelle]

that's why I love it

lets me zen out when my aiming hand gets tired

I'm so sick of shredder supremacy

[austere mica]

Bait used to be believable

[deft crystal]

wdym bait

[austere mica]

Baiting someone into going of on a rant or something

[nimble hazel]

The Marksman's Focus penance sucks tremendous amounts of ass.

[green willow]

what goes best with hammerblow with the shock maul

i swear its the only blessing that procs

[austere mica]

I have a build for it

Hold on

[nimble hazel]

Ooo alright

I've been using a fucked up Bolter build for it and it's been going decently for me so far

[austere mica]

Spam special shells at head height into horde while adsing

[nimble hazel]

Mostly 'cos I realised I can just stand still and melee

[nimble hazel]

I apprecaite you and will give this a shot

[green willow]

skullcrusher works well

[oblique sparrow]

Any tips for not dying as Veteran

Like on how to actually make the space to shoot at specialists

[nimble hazel]

Run shout, use melee, stick with team

[austere mica]

Push

[nimble hazel]

Push a lot, yeah.

[austere mica]

Or just dodge while taking a shot

[nimble hazel]

Dropping frags at your feet can also help if you really need to stand still and unload into something

[full nacelle]

Holy crap! A fellow Zarona Marksman's Focus enjoyer! Pure class!

[verbal burrow]

I don’t think it was that far up

[austere mica]

I run it keystoneless, I just keep an MF version to send to people

[full nacelle]

HERETIC! Ah I gotcha, that's completely understandable

I run it with shout instead of exe stance but it makes sense when you take the ancillary node with it

never thought about that

might have to give it a shot

but doesn't exe stance lower the spread of the special shot?

[austere mica]

I run infil

[full nacelle]

ohh gotcha

[oblique sparrow]

What if the team isn’t killing the swarms

[austere mica]

Exe stance on that build is for sniping things at non shit effectiveness

[deft crystal]

no i meant its not bait if its true

[austere mica]

Because you don’t have smokes

[deft crystal]

Ik what u meant lol

[austere mica]

Shredder is like brettshield, it’s not an actual weapon, just a survivability tool

[full nacelle]

Ah gotcha. I prefer shout with it just cause it gives me time to reload and space to special shot spam... And you know, shout broken af

[verbal burrow]

I hate that gun with a passion

[austere mica]

Infil gives you 10 seconds uniterrupted

Without knocking things down

[full nacelle]

rashad... this is why I have such a love for that weapon

[nimble hazel]

Then you gotta kill your own hordes. Frag grenade your feet or should to give yourself a bit of space.

Or y'know. Just use your melee to murder 'em real quick.

[austere mica]

Or just

[full nacelle]

take it in any build no matter how much you lean into ranged and you can clear hordes for yourself

[austere mica]

Melee lunge the elite

[nimble hazel]

Or if you're real lazy about it, run Helbore with Agile Engagement and use the bayonet to stab the lil fuckers while you fire.

[austere mica]

If you can’t make space just reach out and stab them

[full nacelle]

true true but I generally don't need that much time to reload since I'm just spamming the special shot most of the time... plus I run it with confirmed kill + born leader for some stupid toughness regen cause I like watching the blue bars instantly refill every time I shoot

not confirmed kill... the other one

[austere mica]

It lets you fire for 10 seconds

Is what I meant

[full nacelle]

ohhh gotcha

yeah that is handy

low profile is a goated node

[stoic thorn]

Me watching as my dumbass teammates fail to clean up the ranged chaff and I fucking die

[austere mica]

I would not be angry if they took it down a few seconds

It’s basically a point tax for infil

[austere mica]

Reasons why smokes

[full nacelle]

you mean lowered the duration but just added it to the ability?

[austere mica]

Made low profile shorter

[full nacelle]

so just nerfed then?

[austere mica]

Yes

It would be entirely reasonable

Warranted even

[full nacelle]

I mean... It would be fine but we need competition for Voice of Command

Low Profile is too much fun

[austere mica]

VoC needs nerfing too (somehow after like 2) but low profile also needs a smack

Escalating 1-8 seconds of effective invulnerability to 11-18 is silly

[full nacelle]

I will accept Low Profile smacks when VoC gets its first three

also you'll probably get a million people fighting you on that point because so many people suck at using infiltrate

[deft crystal]

I demand that u all change ur names to guardsman

[earnest bone]

get the dirty hands off from my low profile

[cosmic terrace]

can somebody tell me if this build is fine ? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5bf851-4265-4984-92d2-ec7081ff914f/plasma-build-2

or do i need to change something up ?

[mild hill]

At first glance it definitely needs some tweaks

[cosmic terrace]

yes please let me know

im new to vet

[final zealot]

Which Heavy Laspistol is better for a focus target build, possibly with shock trooper as well?

[odd sparrow]

depends more on i you prefer the fire rate or 1shot

[misty turtle]

what is the dump stat on the chainsword? does it make sense to do mobility if i use mostly this while running around? and not sure how good finesse and shredder are

[mild hill]

Personally preference both are good

[mild hill]

Still dump Mobility

[sly fern]

help....
I'm addicted to Bolter lol

[misty turtle]

hmm okay

[leaden skiff]

Why would you need help?

Just lean into the bolter goodness

[sly fern]

i have trouble switching to other weapon rn lol

i just can't do it lol

[mortal night]

Why would you ever dump mobility

[leaden skiff]

Because it's the usually the stat that doesn't effect your ability to deal damage

[mortal night]

Extra dodge surely better than damage

[misty turtle]

you probably just haven't gotten angry enough times while slowly swapping your weapon trying to shoot just to get overwhelmed by a horde lol

bolt pistol master race

[tall torrent]

You don’t get an extra dodge going from 60% to 80%

[mortal night]

Do you not? I’ve been under the impression you do lol

[odd sparrow]

extra dodge happens at 50 or 51

[stoic thorn]

How do you stop getting fucking flashbanged by the psyker

[gilded wraith]

Mods

[stoic thorn]

How it fucking feels trying to find the yellow highlights while the stupid flamer psyker flames everything but the horde that's trying to kill me but also is simultaneously directing his flames into my face while tox bombers that I cannot fucking see toss their tox bombs and the zealot drops their immolation nade near me

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[full nacelle]

this build is fine for a supportive plasma vet! I would just take brutal momentum or sunder on the power sword and rising heat over blaze away

[cosmic terrace]

thanks ill give the rising heat a go

[stoic thorn]

It's like my team DOESNT want me to kill elites and specials

[cosmic terrace]

also why sunder over slaughterer ?

or momentum ?

[full nacelle]

sunder and brutal momentum are needed so your power sword cleaves through targets

you need one of those blessings

Power Cycler and one of those the undisputed best power sword setup

[cosmic terrace]

doesn't slaughterer increase cleave too ?

[full nacelle]

on kill it does and not as much as the other blessings

so you'd have to constantly stack it up before it gives you enough

[cosmic terrace]

ill try out sunder then

[earnest bone]

Mk2 is for spam, MK10 is for oneshots (require precise aim, otherwise useless)

mk2 if more fun tho

[full nacelle]

mk2 laspistol all day

[cosmic terrace]

yeah i like rising heat seems it helps out with kill points and i dont need to constantly fire it like blaze away

thanks luke

[grand perch]

mk2's the better laspistol for sure but i enjoy the slower pace of the other one as well

[full nacelle]

anytime buddy

[final zealot]

I mean, I run revolver a ton so aim isnt much of a gripe for me

[grand perch]

revolver has much bigger hitbox pretty sure

[full nacelle]

its less about aim and more about having to hit constant headshots on a fast firing gun to keep up with the other version that's easier to use for the same and sometimes better damage

[earnest bone]

it also kinda more ammo efficient (mk2)

[full nacelle]

mk2 is just better, mk10 just sometimes kills things in one hit... but so does the mk2 with crits

[earnest bone]

#fsrevertmk10nerf

[oblique sparrow]

Thanks

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/ninjaa-gif-21386720

[deft crystal]

we are all stealthj lmfao

[verbal burrow]

Yeah. Even if you aren’t specced for melee or ranged, you still have to do both on the fly

[verbal burrow]

Do it yourself if you dislike it

[full nacelle]

yep, you should be able to cover every deficit by yourself

[verbal burrow]

?

[full nacelle]

horde clear, specials/elites, crushers, boss damage

the key to any good build is to have something for all of these

[misty turtle]

just spam dueling sword or combat blade and shout at things like everybody else, stop trying to play the game as it was intended dummy 🙃

[verbal burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[quaint spindle]

Hi. Is this helmet in the game or am i getting trolled? I dont know why but there is no clear cosmetic list for the game https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/7/8/7802d85ec68bf74acc57d2b90d3ce6320a7b3fa5.jpeg

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-grenades-peter-familyguy-family-gif-9926709

[earnest bone]

Cosmetics rotate on X days basis, for that mini-FOMO feeling and bait

[final zealot]

Needing to be able to heretics? Nah, everything in the general direction im front of me is a heretic. Every bullet is an extension of the Emperors will, they'll find their target, trust

[quaint spindle]

Yeah ik. But im not sure wehter ot not that cosmetic is actualy in the game and was wondering if anyone mightve seen it b4

[verbal burrow]

I think it’s idiotic tbh. Imagine having cosmetics for sale, and then not putting them in your store. They must really be kicking themselves for refusing to accept our currency in exchange for drip

[upbeat dirge]

is charge rate a good dump stat for helbore?

[verbal burrow]

Not sure how an adult human with a pulse cocks that up

[verbal burrow]

No

[full nacelle]

no, stability is

[earnest bone]

If it works for them it's fine i guess. I personally don't care about cosmetics that much.

[round jetty]

people who try to speed run are some of the most annoying people in dark tide

worse than zealots with knifes

[verbal burrow]

If it worked for them we would be exchanging currency for goods to finance their pay checks

[verbal burrow]

Knives are pretty much mandatory since the top right section of the zealot tree is too good to pass up

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/double-og-gif-25539911

[round jetty]

in my 600 hours of playing, theres been about maybe 20 zealots that used knifes that ive seen are good

everyone else was actual ass

literal detriment to the team

[verbal burrow]

I don’t care

[round jetty]

you do care

[full nacelle]

he got you there Max

[upbeat dirge]

how bout dump stat for laspistol?

[misty turtle]

also wait until you get two psykers one with blue fire and the other spamming smite and both also spreading soulblaze and on top of already having a flamer fire grenade zealot on your team... on a map with gas or fog and nurgle's blessing 😂

[verbal burrow]

No, I endeavour to carry the wholesome newbros. Them being competent is optional.

[misty turtle]

peak vet gameplay

honestly it's a skill issue if you haven't already moved to just playing a zealot and running and sliding around the whole game with his dueling sword or knife

[verbal burrow]

Me when that happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh2xhUkId-c

[earnest bone]

im just doing that with vet

not much difference

[round jetty]

if you are on auric maelstrom, you shouldnt be ass

[verbal burrow]

Ass is the default human condition

[round jetty]

🤔

[verbal burrow]

We become based by contemplating our misgivings upon the tree of woe

For instance I used to run a pure ranged guardsman at launch

Now I have become so pessimistic that I expect the game to spawn things directly behind me, and plan accordingly

[round jetty]

i only pray my team is semi competent

then im having a good time

on auric they usually are

but theres sometimes just that 1 person

[verbal burrow]

Just wreck the enemy’s shit and rez the potatoes

Besides, if you keep their toughness bar full, they can’t really die.

[steady ibex]

Does anyone use Assault Chainaxe ever? On any class?

[earnest bone]

i used it on both vet/zealot

mostly 4 tho

[tranquil shadow]

love the chain axe

[analog yacht]

repeatedly blown away by how absurd rashad/ds4 + zarona is on vet

just smoosh together merc shout, bh pocket crit, and whc rapier with no downsides for some reason

[real shoal]

Idr, is brutal momentum a waste on power sword since its activation has infinite cleave?

Or is it a thing like the eviscerator where cleave has a use, even when it is capped at 4.

[steady ibex]

Well the one downside is kinda meh horde clear with DS4.

[analog yacht]

yeah but rashad

[steady ibex]

True, Rashad has worse single target than DS4 though.

Whatever both are very good

[analog yacht]

marginally, plus you have zarona

[steady ibex]

I wouldn't say it's marginal but yeah Zarona

[analog yacht]

sorry yeah it's more than marginal

but the axe already has v good single target

it's just that ds4 is silly

[real shoal]

Yeah, ds4 has always been silly; it was just locked onto a class that didn't always want to be in melee.

[analog yacht]

like i guess the 1 real downside is ranged lesser waves but most of the time you can just take another path and flank them

plus shout + iron will negates a ton of that threat

[steady ibex]

Just gotta rely on an ally to take care of those

I don't think there's any build in the game that is literally the best at dealing with every threat

That's where your allies come in hopefully

[verbal burrow]

Needs matching drip

[analog yacht]

vet can certainly come close tho

[steady ibex]

Arguably Psyker gets closest with a Trauma staff for any type of horde, and DS4 for single target, brain burst for longe range

[tall torrent]

It doesn’t have infinite cleave

[real shoal]

So I guess Brutal Momentum is kinda the go to then?

[steady ibex]

Since Psyker kind of gets 3 weapons it can cover a lot of ground

[analog yacht]

it also extends first target damage

[tall torrent]

Missing boss damage tbh

[steady ibex]

Eh DS4 is pretty good boss damage

[tall torrent]

With scrier’s gaze and precog, yes

But you usually don’t take scrier’s gaze or DD with VB staff

So it ends up being pretty meh

[steady ibex]

Just with Precog it's decent

I mean I think most builds don't have outstanding boss damage

[full nacelle]

every vet build does

thanks kraks

very cool

[tall torrent]

Most psyker & ogryn builds don’t

Veteran & zealot kind of have to try to get a build with low boss damage

[steady ibex]

I'm pretty new to Zealot but I don't feel like most builds have high boss damage

If we're talking 'not low' then I think any DS4 with Precog would do it because that weapon is busted

[tall torrent]

Are u taking duellist

[steady ibex]

Yeah. Maybe our abstract ideas of what is high and what isn't are just different

[tall torrent]

High would be like

Hm

<20s kill on plague ogryn?

In a melee-only 1v1

[round jetty]

bolt gun wit puncture and tag is goofy

silly even

[misty turtle]

do i dump mobility or defences on the sapper shovel?

says defences just affect dashes?

so how is that different from mobility

[tall torrent]

Defences

[tall torrent]

No, sprint & push stamina cost

Also affects block stamina cost (isn’t written)

[misty turtle]

hmm

block stamina cost seems important

but maybe not as much

[verbal burrow]

Helps you rez people without interruption

[tall torrent]

Not applicable since you’re considered as”not having any item in-hand” when reviving

[wet ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[livid monolith]

BCR is useful for devils claw

[wet ether]

Ya automatically blocking while reviving

[tall torrent]

Have u noticed the “available stamina” when reviving teammates is a different number from when u have melee weapon in-hand

For example, power sword gets +3

So you can have up to 6 stamina with it in-hand (+1 from talent)

But the stamina amount when reviving is +4

[primal dune]

I was wondering why my stamina increases when rescuing

[tall torrent]

Only curio perks that reduce block cost can work in that status

You don’t have any in-hand item when in revive status

Therefore weapon perks don’t work

[wet ether]

I thought we were talking about curios not weapons

[tall torrent]

he's talking abt the "defences" stat which changes shovel's block, push & sprint cost

block efficiency on curios tho, does work always

just not very good

value a bit too low imo

[steady ibex]

So you think most builds on Zealot can pull that off? Hmm, I'll do some testing

Took me 40s with Zealot and DS4 with Duelist but maybe I just suck

[misty turtle]

man i just really wanna run a recon lasgun build with executioner's stace and just blast everything while it's active

but playing with randoms without either voice of command or infiltrate these days is misery

nobody will try to cover you especially if it's zealots just zooming around the map being lost in their own world

at least sometimes you get an ogryn bro that will rush to help you up

really wanna try out smoke executioner's stance with smoke grenades too

[dry cloak]

thammer stealth zealot

try this to kill bosses

[steady ibex]

@tall torrent Took me 40s with Duellist Zealot, 50s with Psyker

OK worse run with Psyker now, 60s. Possibly got lucky on the first with the moveset.

[stoic thorn]

Really wanna play zealot but I can't fucking bear the shitty selection of weapons he has in the low levels

[placid portal]

Turn brain off and charge into crusher kill teams

THammer got that 8 strength to wound on 3s against those pesky ogryns

[frank basin]

@tall torrent hey is precog better than uncanny?

[placid portal]

Precog is probs better if you dodge and weave

[stoic thorn]

Don't have THammer yet

[regal belfry]

use rashad

[analog yacht]

the guide put uncanny and riposte in the same column and then precog and agile

as in you run uncanny + agile for example

or swap agile for precog

i personally run riposte + agile

[frank basin]

The agile it is the talent?

That give dmg on melee from ranged kill and opposite

[analog yacht]

agile the blessing

[regal belfry]

what do you prefer mk3 or mk6 combat knife i personally like the mk6 cause of aoe

[analog yacht]

10% weakness damage and infinity dodge

[frank basin]

Is that new blessing?

[analog yacht]

maybe

[frank basin]

I haven’t heard it

[analog yacht]

imo if you don't want the safety of infinity dodge you should go rashad

[frank basin]

WHY RASHAD

AGAIN

[analog yacht]

because it does everything

straight up

i'm not a huge fan of axes personally

but it helps when the axe 1 shots 4 trash enemies per swing

and has a push attack with absurd stagger values

and then still 3hk crusher

[frank basin]

This is like shade dual dagger meta

[analog yacht]

snd I think you mean

[regal belfry]

i used sword dagger

[analog yacht]

everyone did bc it did everything

[primal dune]

i like the mk6 for the animations

[regal belfry]

yes but for optimal play you needed to know all attack chains

[analog yacht]

yeah but you could still just m1 spam and throw out the corresponding heavy when appropriate and do fine

[regal belfry]

i loved sword dagger optimal play but i like glaive aswell but it was to unsafe...

i hope we get dual weapon in darktide

would like katachan with combat blade

[analog yacht]

mk6 dagger is kinda just an upgrade i think

[regal belfry]

by powersword i preffer the mk3 with the overhead

mk6 feels weird

[analog yacht]

idk i never use powersword bc it has like 0 clutch potential

[primal dune]

it's too slow for me

[regal belfry]

i only really enjoy it with powercycler

[analog yacht]

power cycler should just be innate tbh

[shadow dagger]

what

[analog yacht]

it was in beta iirc

[regal belfry]

blessing for multicharge on special

[shadow dagger]

saying you only enjoy power sword with powercycler is like saying you only like pizza when it has tomato sauce on it

[analog yacht]

ok but have you ever had pizza with bbq sauce on it

[shadow dagger]

did it replace the tomato sauce

[analog yacht]

i actually don't know

it was fire tho

[stoic thorn]

I always crack up when the Veteran screams "VERY LARGE MUTANT SIGHTED"

[primal dune]

"Die... you... filth!"

[stoic thorn]

Literally everything but horde enemies when I exe stance + Plasma at 90% + 8 focus stacks

I shred bosses unless another vet brings kraks

2 rounds of full sending the plasma from 0 to 100 and that mf is DEAD

[regal belfry]

what do you think about duelling and heavy sword on vets

[primal dune]

Dueling Sword is stupid overpowered, heavy sword is kinda worse devil claw in my experience

Eh, more of a side-grade

[placid portal]

Heavy sword does have more offensive blessings vs claw

Headtaker and Deathblow do be something

But at that point why not rashad

[primal dune]

Swag

Also I dislike how slow the rashad is

[placid portal]

Though ngl I find claw utility of parry valuable for vet

[regal belfry]

i used claw more often together with bolter or plasma

[primal dune]

I tend to run autoguns so i need my melee to deal with carapace, i've been enjoying the shock maul

[placid portal]

Claw parry against rager is satisfying

[placid portal]

Infantry or mk7 vrak headhunter

[primal dune]

Infantry, i often switch between mk1 and mk5

[placid portal]

Agripinaa Infantry is my favorite

[dusty nacelle]

Hi!! haven't played in around half a year, have they nerfed the plasma gun?

[placid portal]

No but bolter is goated

[regal belfry]

they buffed bolter

[placid portal]

So bolter no longer uses surgical? Now replaced with puncture?

Also i know it's old but remember when old pinning fire used to give 20% dmg per stack?

[verbal burrow]

I still use surgical

Can’t say no to a 100% crit chance

[earnest bone]

It is, but as the some people already said, it promotes bad habits

And new players that'l get accustomed to infinite dodges will get cucked if they swap the weapon

[frank basin]

they can deal any enemy at melee range but sniper and shooter, gunner and reaper are their threats so they will have to learn to adapt.

[earnest bone]

i mean swapping weapon with infinite dodges to a normal 4-5 one.

and new players usually bad vs ranged too

but yeah, i expect agile to be nerfed in the future (probably a cooldown added to it)

[frank basin]

Not everyone are best shooter

Of course the suck at aiming

[lofty nova]

Question what is the closest thing to a sniper rifle we got ?

[dry cloak]

Graia vigilant and brown helbore

[lofty nova]

ty

[dry cloak]

And helbore is the better one between the two

Realistically the zarona revolver is the best sniper rifle

[placid portal]

This is a bruh moment Vrak mk7 got name changed to Graia?

[grand perch]

Yup

[knotty veldt]

for this plasma gun blessing does it mean it charges faster at low heat or higher?

[lofty nova]

Maybe i was to harsh on Vet. Melee is now kinda fun

[lofty nova]

MK IV for Helbore?

[verbal burrow]

You mean like everything in contemporary life?

[tropic abyss]

scales inversely

[knotty veldt]

Im seeing stuff online that says the description for it is wrong, that it reduces heat generation on charged shots instead?

[dry cloak]

Yes

[verbal burrow]

The Kantrael 9 also works okay as a designated marksman’s rifle, but you will feel that it is not a bolter

[dry cloak]

Is this the brown infatry lasgun

[lofty nova]

I named my Veteran after a Ravenguard elite unit they're primarily snipers. xD but also melee feels so goood

[dry cloak]

?

[verbal burrow]

It is the high alpha strike semi-automatic lasgun

[dry cloak]

Rhemembur ogryn brain stupid

[verbal burrow]

But in contrast to the Helbore ammo leaves the barrel when wanted

[dry cloak]

Yeah

Lorewise helbores a re just lasguns that hit harder tjat the normal ones

[lofty nova]

Helbore not a lot of Dakka.

[dry cloak]

You wanted sniper

[knotty veldt]

the brown one, Mk 9 is the most damage per shot, but honestly i think the Mk 7 is much better, its only slightly less damage per shot but with a much faster fire rate and less recoil. If you wanna go for a build that focuses almost entirely on sitting back killing all ranged enemies and specials with headshots, especially if your using executioner stance then thats the best weapon for it imo and gives you the true "guardsman" feel as well

[lofty nova]

Yes i do

Kind of a Shame the closest thing to a sniper doesn't deal a lot of damage ? but also i probably need to roll good stats for it to work

hopefully will help me snipe off some gunners snipers and other annoying elites.

or specials

[dry cloak]

Yeah i swapped my helbore for a bolter in my sniper build

Vigilant autos need tuning to be competing

[lofty nova]

considering anything with a full auto spool like columbus kills everything in literal seconds a single shot like weapon barely chuncks half HP. granted again i just bought some shitty helbore from the vendor

[dry cloak]

And one idea for a helbore rework is that it the charge is the cooldown to fire and rest works like it does

Helbore 2 shots crushers

[lofty nova]

I think it should have a really high crit multiplier if you hit weakpoints

[dry cloak]

Helbore or vigilant

[lofty nova]

oh good maybe it's just a shitty stated gun for me rn hopefully it's better when i upgrade it

helbore

[dry cloak]

I can ship you a build i use

For it

[lofty nova]

Sure why not

[earnest bone]

Infinite dodges are unhealthy, like drugs

[dry cloak]

Yeah but i will do it when im home

Shitty internet at school

Talking about vigilant autos. They need to kill the stagger on them

[lofty nova]

so what counts as a tagged enemy for the middle keystone ? do you have to ping them or will executioners stance work on marking enemies ?

[dry cloak]

And buff rate of fire on the blue one

[dry cloak]

I have gone for full left side

And remember shock trooper

[brave cliff]

You have to manually ping them

[grand perch]

i dunno why you consider them thus, ive literally used them for hundreds of hours, same with helbore. id put vigilant roughly on par with helbores

is it because helbores need less talent point investment?

[dry cloak]

No they feel off after using helbore for extended period of time

And bolter now is just better than both

And vigilant have a bit too much stagger for ny taste as burst weapons

Im looking at the blue one here

[dry cloak]

Helbores can have infinite ammo

[ocean idol]

I finally remembered what iw as annoyed with

Lasguns recoil

WHY IT EXISTS

and another thing, why the hell bolters have cleave

bolt explode inside first target

How they explode multiple targets?!?!?

that makes no sense

[knotty veldt]

cos explosion i aoe?

[ocean idol]

except it explodes several targets in A LINE, not around first target

besides, that explosion is not that big

it is basically a bit smaller than radius of head

[regal belfry]

i would make the less acurate with no recoil when shooting to often cause lense heating

[ocean idol]

what

rephrase that please in proper english

[knotty veldt]

aside from the brown one lasguns have very little recoil

[ocean idol]

They still have it

and no, biggest recoil exists on light infantry lasgun

recons also have recoil

[knotty veldt]

pft recon is a laser beam barely has any recoil lol

[dry cloak]

Remember every action has a reaction

And yes blue infatry lasgun has biggest recoil out of the three

[lofty nova]

more questions. cuz i like variety is there any other weapon competing with dueling sword ? think one of the Atrox has nearly the same stats with the exception being crit damage bonus.

[dry cloak]

If you want a weapon that competes with dueling sword. You need to stop using DS

Because its that good

[lofty nova]

oh

[dry cloak]

Maybe knife is a contender

Ans thats it

[lofty nova]

kind of assumed the knive is the best weapon followed by dueling sword.

and then idk what's after that

[analog yacht]

rashad

[dry cloak]

I have a challange for you. Stop using knife and ds. Try using other weapons

Try everything

Then choose what you like

[lofty nova]

not alot of resources for that

[dry cloak]

Aye

Well what kind of melee do you want

For your vet i presume

[analog yacht]

the guide in pins has performance charts for all the weapons

e.g. ds4

[lofty nova]

ooo

[analog yacht]

and other stuff like this

s tier resource

other classes are jealous

[lofty nova]

where is this ?

[dry cloak]

Ogrynomicon better

[analog yacht]

most recent pin

[dry cloak]

Because ogryn does not need such graphs

[lofty nova]

So from this it looks like of the weapons of my choice Rashad is the allrounder.

[analog yacht]

to be up front rashad is like giga overtuned

[dry cloak]

Also try antax

[analog yacht]

if it isn't obvious from the graph

[dry cloak]

And power sword

[analog yacht]

but it's also fun

[dry cloak]

I used achlys CA for the longest time before the update

[lofty nova]

btw i'm tweaking my talents to fit what I think is good. is rending strike worth picking up ?

[dry cloak]

Yeah

It works for both ranged and melee

[lofty nova]

Despite how much i dislike Tanners personality he does the minmax thing and he said Rending strike isn't worth it

[analog yacht]

that guide details what talents a weapon generally benefit from but yeah the rending talent is good on almost everything

[dry cloak]

Then stop watching him and do your own builds

Tanner is a boykisser that belongs to zealot chat

[analog yacht]

basically as long as an enemy has <=90% armor damage multiplier then rending is at minimum an 11.11% multiplicative damage increase

if the ADM is 50% then it's a 20% damage increase

[dry cloak]

Tanner is a femboy

Thats common knowledge

[lofty nova]

ayoo psyker also gets this Axe.

[dry cloak]

Yea

[lofty nova]

excellent

[dry cloak]

But psyker exclusive weapon are better for him

Force swords are better for psyker

[lofty nova]

oh right i forgot i swapped to dagger cuz uncanny buffs the dots >.<

[lofty nova]

that was what i was using yes cuts through everything like butter

[wet ether]

Lifer’s sentry

[dry cloak]

Illisi Fs yes?

[wet ether]

Seen that earlier looked badass that armor set does

[lofty nova]

I wish we could get Lucifer black armor

[frank basin]

that's goddamn hotshot volley gun

I don't know when fs willing do that or not

[lofty nova]

Named my Vet after the Mor-Deythans of the ravenguard and man if i could get a Lucifer black set i would be a Vet main for the rest of DT

[ocean idol]

it is LASGUN

LASER

Which is light

Also btw bolters aslo should not have much recoil

since bolts are basically mini rockets

[dry cloak]

Yes and light is a wave that transmits energy

[ocean idol]

🤦‍♂️

[knotty veldt]

Does anyone know if the stacks from Onslaught talent are applied per pellet or just one per shot with shotguns?

[stoic thorn]

The Lasguns only have recoil because FS felt like it would feel shitty to use without recoil

[lofty nova]

There are only 2 ways Laz weapons work either they're super heated light photons (which would be hard to keep straight) or they found a way to make Photons solid.

[stoic thorn]

And where do you think all that exhaust and energy created by the bolt shell going through the barrel goes

[lofty nova]

eitherway laz weapons shouldn't work xD

[stoic thorn]

Las weapons are Las weapons we take what we can get and we do not doubt it

Once we start doubting it it stops working

[lofty nova]

oh we're just a bunch of orks

[dry cloak]

Yes

[stoic thorn]

Yes

[verbal burrow]

Yeah they fucked up the implementation. If the charge up happened automatically after each shot it would be legit

[stoic thorn]

We are a bigger race than orks we've got a bigger warp print then em

[dry cloak]

Thats what im thinking for a rework

[stoic thorn]

We've got a gestalt we just don't know it yet

[ocean idol]

nah, laser not hard to weaponise irl, it just has 2 problems. One is portable enough energy source, and another it is soo easy to defend from

[dry cloak]

For them

[lofty nova]

going to well actually you.

[stoic thorn]

What

The Lasgun is actually pretty powerful

[dry cloak]

Shut up mushroom

[ocean idol]

helbores or hellguns? Those are 2 different

[stoic thorn]

We've just KILLED all the easy xenos

[verbal burrow]

It is s semi automatic. That faster fire rate will come at the cost of carpal tunnel syndrome

[dry cloak]

Helbores

[stoic thorn]

The Lasgun can rip off human arms ez

Hellguns in KT are wild lmao

[ocean idol]

the fuck is KT

[stoic thorn]

Hellguns have the FUCKING BOLTGUN PROFILE

[stoic thorn]

Kill Team

Kasrkin are in the Kill Team

Their Hot-Shots have the same profile as the fucking space marine boltguns

4 3+ 3/4

[ocean idol]

Tabletop or videogame?.

[stoic thorn]

Tabletop duh

[slow spade]

hopefully both one day

[lofty nova]

Orks in 40k are the most numerous race populating like 90% of the Galaxy. since the great crusade. according to james workshop. while also humanity tried finding out if there is live outside our Galaxy it's said they only heard Ork Chants.

[ocean idol]

there is videogame with same name

[verbal burrow]

The proper infantry lasgun can easily oneshot snipers and gunners in the hands of a marksman build vet

[lofty nova]

that's all i really need it to do.

[buoyant knoll]

hello, I did well in auric with melee-focused class like shout vet, zealot, ogryn but struggle with range-focused like sharpshooter vet, psyker. Most of the death happens when I cannot toughness sustain vs trash mobs and die to them, any tips?

[slow spade]

I'd hope so lol

[stoic thorn]

I wish we could use our weapons in the Victory screen instead of the Lasgun

[ocean idol]

... iam 90% sure you are pulling this out of your green ass

[dry cloak]

Didnt nids become moat nunerous recently?

[stoic thorn]

He kinda ain't wrong

[slow spade]

obligatory use Out for Blood

as it makes ranged kills give toughness

[stoic thorn]

But Orks don't exist outside of the Galaxy

They got eated

[lofty nova]

talking about inside the galaxy populating planets and all.

[ocean idol]

Only thing right is "orcs most populated", ev erything esle is pure bs, including 90%

[frank basin]

Magister the santa and Salty Dwarf the dwarf debating; this is fun

[dry cloak]

If this is google gemini this is false.

If not its possible

[frank basin]

do ork poop egg? i don't think so

[analog yacht]

the secret is that if you're optimizing then most ranged vets should also use shout

it's too good

[lofty nova]

no. i'm not wrong but you do you. you can be wrong all you want.

[dry cloak]

Nah they multiply by mushroom

[verbal burrow]

Not kinetic, thermal

[frank basin]

yeah i know the spore stuff

exterminus like only way to stop the spread

[dry cloak]

Not if you call salamanders to the scene

[frank basin]

can they detect the spore?

[dry cloak]

They can bur corpses

[frank basin]

but the spore still spread out

[dry cloak]

As they fight

[verbal burrow]

We can just all see that Helbore in its current state is neither fun nor lore accurate

[buoyant knoll]

I definitely see people using that build, but I want to give a normal range build a try, but I'm struggling with it lol

[dry cloak]

Not if you die while burning

[frank basin]

vaporize the planet if you want stop cycle endless ork spawn

[dry cloak]

Then try lowering the difficulty

[ocean idol]

you just need to be relaly good in melee to afford to not take the shout

[dry cloak]

Theres no shame in that

[slow spade]

Infiltrate spammers

[analog yacht]

the big thing is that almost any build can benefit from full toughness + overshield + breathing room to snipe more than they can use 25% more damage for 5 seconds every 30 seconds. it's better to just build to hit your breakpoints without needing exec stance

[stoic thorn]

Orks probably do not live outside the Galaxy, that excerpt of "evidence" was from White Dwarf 118 which was published in October 1989

[frank basin]

infiltrate spammers using tactical awareness

[analog yacht]

obviously doesn't mean there's no valuable breakpoints to hit with exec stance

[stoic thorn]

And is considered old lore

Back when Warhammer lore was all fucked up and shit

[lofty nova]

and yet they still use old lore from time to time my doode

[verbal burrow]

I will hit u up with something when I get home

[lofty nova]

it still is

[dry cloak]

Then horus was JUST a space marine not a primarch

[stoic thorn]

As in we had the half eldar half human space marine

As in when models were PEWTER

[dry cloak]

Not valid response

[frank basin]

Grey knight breeding method

[stoic thorn]

The sororitas incident

[lofty nova]

totally is, if it works for james workshop it works for arguments

[stoic thorn]

Theo who nose

[slow spade]

I fucking hate they pulled the laziest shit possible and expected it to work

[lofty nova]

just like how there was ALWAYS female custodes.

[dry cloak]

Time to ban myself

[stoic thorn]

are we seriously bringing up this?

Female custodes?

[lofty nova]

But still not as Dense as your mom. xD

[dry cloak]

[stoic thorn]

It's one thing for a poorly done retcon

[dry cloak]

I aprecieate a good riposte

[stoic thorn]

It's another for outdated lore

[lofty nova]

no no just making a reference to the bullshit of james workshop and their lore

[dry cloak]

And 40k lore is so big that theres no fixi g it

[lofty nova]

the point is, it doesn't matter if it's old lore or new lore or whatever. James Workshop has never been consistant with their lore so who cares.

and maybe i am wrong. it was just mentioned in a white dwarf thing from long ago.

[stoic thorn]

1989

[lofty nova]

still lore of some kind by GW

[stoic thorn]

Pewter models

[dry cloak]

Loremasters care because theyre jobs ia gettong harder

[lofty nova]

they haven't changed it yet.

[stoic thorn]

Took 12 years for the towers to get hit

[slow spade]

I think its funnier if you try to be as lore accurate as possible c:

[stoic thorn]

Why can't they all put this shit on a word doc

[slow spade]

you must imagine the loremasters as happy UwU

[stoic thorn]

Like seriously just

Put the story into a word doc

[frank basin]

Imperial fist:

https://tenor.com/view/amish-amish-build-amish-barn-barn-building-gif-5232652

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-freaky-tongue-off-the-perc-geeked-off-the-yipper-gif-16764201143173071558

[stoic thorn]

RDR2 house building theme

[lofty nova]

looks like a bunch of ants

[frank basin]

GALE

[frank basin]

Those are Amish

[dry cloak]

NOOOOOOOOOOO WE NEED TO RELEASE BOOKS TO MAKE MONEY YOU CANT JUST PUT IT INTO WORD DOCUMENT NOOOOOOOOOOO

[lofty nova]

Amish ants.

[dry cloak]

Thats how i seenit

[verbal burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-the-slightest-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-batman-beyond-blight-derek-powers-gif-8836710093214428393

[stoic thorn]

Those who know or smth

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[stoic thorn]

I hate the new brainrot bring back the old one

[dry cloak]

Hey people lets not devolve to zealot chat levels of stupid

[stoic thorn]

Me when the specialised daemon hunters need sororitas blood to be immune to daemons

[frank basin]

Little tzeetch myself caused the vet chat into zealot chat

[lofty nova]

Can't wait for Horus to come back for heresy 2 eletric boogaloo

[dry cloak]

Possibly virgin blood at that

[slow spade]

we haven't even started talking about femboys yet?

[lofty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/astolfo-happy-gif-22218025

[tropic notch]

Spanking my beast rn

[stoic thorn]

Do you think the Emperor has appeared as a femboy to someone for fun

[slow spade]

omg Astolfo :D

[soft island]

[verbal burrow]

I am really happy I did not have to put up with the same crap as battle sisters when I played adorbs zealots in Conan Exiles

[slow spade]

Malcador

[stoic thorn]

Considering the emperor can change his form if he feels like it

[stoic thorn]

Deadass yeah

[dry cloak]

Well lets prevent degradation before it happens

[analog yacht]

if you're hard set on it tho try smth like this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d5c807a-4043-4fb9-a7e9-330e4c6a95c8

[lofty nova]

Astalfo the King... or Queen ? of Femboys everywhere.

[frank basin]

“And one femboy” -The Emperor himself

[stoic thorn]

Mfs bad 28k+ years to fuck around

[lofty nova]

that would be sanguinius

[stoic thorn]

No wrong

Kurse

Kurze

[lofty nova]

no he wasn't he had an astartes who was

and is the only confirmed astartes to be a femboy

the painted count Gendor skraivok

[stoic thorn]

Emperor rejoicing rn

He found a way to give females geneseed

[dry cloak]

Theres whole subreddit dedicated to that called primarchgfs

[lofty nova]

you know femboys not my thing but i realize how much i know about them and it concerns me.

[frank basin]

Pls is not r63

[stoic thorn]

Sire we've got a bomb

Why does everyone on the ship hate melk

[faint beacon]

Veteran chat, femboys immediately being brought up

Yeah nothing changed

[stoic thorn]

Is it because he gives out shitroll weapons

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-40k-dreadnought-redemptor-dreadnought-by-the-nine-i'm-tweakin-gif-9390896391163403429

[stoic thorn]

WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BOY 😭😭

MUH REDEMPTOR

[lofty nova]

hey offtopic a moment are you on warframe ?

[dry cloak]

Bye

[stoic thorn]

DID HE FUCKING ROLL A ONE FOR HAZARD

[frank basin]

Overheated malfunction

[stoic thorn]

I don't play warframe

[frank basin]

🧌

[slow spade]

got hit by a lasgun

[lofty nova]

ok nvm there some other people with prime in their name and you seemed familiar so i thought you were one of them.

anyway back to Femboys how about the Femstodes

[stoic thorn]

The fucking guardsman after passing the 5+ to hit 6+ to wound 1 to save on the redemptor

[lofty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-8189346

[stoic thorn]

Femstodes look like hags and manstodes look like grandpas

[dry cloak]

No stodes as a whole have faces o 25 year olds

[lofty nova]

have you seen images of Valdor my guy ?

[stoic thorn]

Then they look like that

[lofty nova]

doode looks like he's in his 40's 50's

[stoic thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

Femstodes rn

And the Aquilon Tempestor

[lofty nova]

they need to give Vets golden armor

[stoic thorn]

We are not buff

Give to ogryn

[lofty nova]

actually idk what we give Ogryn that is lore accurate they don't already have