veteran-class

[spring rose]

[wild summit]

the what now

[stoic thorn]

Because all I need to do for the revive scream is to get close, scream and go about my day

[wild summit]

ooooh

the vet scream

[stoic thorn]

Racism scream is my nickname for voice of command

Humanity is divided by race, united by racism

[wild summit]

indeed

[stoic thorn]

Too bad about the cooldown though

I'd be fine if the cooldown kicked in IF I did revive someone with the scream

[wild summit]

i never take the rez scream

to me it is a massive waste

if i gotta take a talent to help bad players, while i am all for people trying new things, i rather let them fail and learn instead

[stoic thorn]

I'd like to see it buffed first then I'll take it

[wild summit]

i mean the reduction in range is enough to be a waste

[spring rose]

Just stack Combat ability regen on your curios and take tactical awareness

[stoic thorn]

I don't mind if they got rid of the range reduction but doubled the cooldown after you revive someone with it

[wild summit]

i mean that would be a better idea than what we have now

[spring rose]

I do the karkin scream every 5 seconds in certain situations with that set up

[wild summit]

cause taking a straight up debuff just for fielding it is terrible

[stoic thorn]

talent tree
makes your character stupid

Would be funny if the vets got like

Sore ass throats from shouting all the time

[wild summit]

i can not wait for another class/talent tree branch far down the line in all honesty

[stoic thorn]

Shout a thousand times and your character no longer is able to speak

Gotta go to the surgery guy to replace your vocal cords

Come out sounding like the enginseer

[spring rose]

With how certain helmet cosmetics makes you sound robotic / muffled might as well make it a head cannon

[stoic thorn]

Either that or Masozi keeps free lozenges on her valkyrie

After a mission the vets pop them in

Are there even living quarters in the Mourningstar for the rejects lmao

No bathrooms either

Our rejects have been holding their shit in for months atp

[spring rose]

It's a big ship I'm sure it's outside of the hub area

[wild summit]

tbf mourningstar needs ... something

it feels lifeless in a way, no offence

[trim pivot]

Probably a cramped ass store room in the lower decks that's had some shitty bunkbeds installed.

Likely using the same smelly toilets that everyone else uses on the lower decks.

[stoic thorn]

A few thousand rejects

1 toilet

[trim pivot]

Although if you join the inquisition at level 30 it's possible you get upgraded to the mid decks.

[stoic thorn]

You get the fancy Inquisition shitter

From bucket with a hole

To a

Non functional toilet

[trim pivot]

Yeah, essentially the same or similar accommodations low ranking guardsmen get.

[stoic thorn]

You get the squatting toilet

10% chance a nurgling pops out because that shit is foul

[sick cedar]

Sire Melk actually rolls up a good deal???

Real????

[stoic thorn]

A broken clock is right twice a day

[sick cedar]

Tbh it feels like Melk's has gotten a bit redundant following the update

I mean in a sense that now it's much easier to get a good weapon

[wild summit]

yup

[sick cedar]

I guess there's still the appeal of spending melkcoins for just selling the weapons for dockets and plasteel or leveling mastery but

You get my point

[trim pivot]

I'm sure they'll give Milk better equipment at a later date.
Probably like, exotics / legendaries

[sick cedar]

It'd be neat is maybe he got like... Weapons with blessings that you can't normally get on that weapon

I think that'd be interesting

Also, on the topic of blessings

I've been really enjoying infernus on the helbore

I run it with surgical and it's been very consistent in setting it

[wild summit]

my theory is that, since they said something about curios getting a different kinda change, that this is where mlek comes in

[sick cedar]

Oh that'd be also nice

I also wouldn't mind if Melk just turned into another cosmetic shop, I mean it'd be a bit of a downgrade but having some unique items you could buy would be cool

But that's very unlikely considering we already have the commissary, Hallowette and Hestia to get cosmetics

[wild summit]

yeah i dont think so personally

[winter grove]

It's 69%

[wild summit]

it would be cool if curious were more than just stat modifiers

[vivid ocean]

uh i think my shit's bugged

[sick cedar]

Yeah true, but also I dunno what they would do other than stats

Any ideas?

[stoic thorn]

Ah shit

[sick cedar]

Just reload the game

[stoic thorn]

You've got the Emperor's sword

[vivid ocean]

real

[sick cedar]

It's a problem with the customization mod when you switch marks

[vivid ocean]

ah, makes sense

[stoic thorn]

500% power

[spring rose]

That's what the emperor used to erase Horus from existence

[stoic thorn]

I was there

[sick cedar]

Stats so divine they had to put N/A

[sick cedar]

I took the photo

[stoic thorn]

It's exceeding mortal comprehension

It truly is the Emperor's Sword

Idk what Melk is doing with it but

Swords a sword

Now there's a random zealot who has or is going to have the Ghal-Maraz

[sick cedar]

What's the difference between hi intensity shock troop gauntlet and hi intensity engagement zone?

Oh wait I'm dumb

[vivid ocean]

hi intensity shock troop is engagement with more specials i think

so slightly harder

[stoic thorn]

We need to find that zealot

He holds the 40,000th warhammer

[sick cedar]

Thinking which to do

Prolly will do the Vigil Station

[vivid ocean]

4's on hi intensity are nuts tbh

[sick cedar]

True but I'm running a helbore anti-elite build

[vivid ocean]

its 0 to 100 and never really lets up

[sick cedar]

So I'm kinda made for it

[vivid ocean]

go nuts

[sick cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-fire-skeleton-senor-gif-19310953

[stoic thorn]

More elites?

Damn

My plasma eats good

[sick cedar]

Also ngl

The combat knife is so slept on for vets

At least it feels like you don't see many veterans using it

And I fell in love with it this past week

[stoic thorn]

Love me chainsword

[spring rose]

I see a lot of veterans use it, it's a very versatile weapon

Dont think it's slept on

[sick cedar]

I feel like I've only seen like...

1 or 2 vets other than me using it

[spring rose]

Eh maybe by chance you just haven't seen many combat knife vets there's so many PS vets out there too

[trim pivot]

That's a good idea, the +10% vs elites does work with charged helbore

[sick cedar]

I can post mine later if you wanna copy whast I'm running :)\

In a match rn

[trim pivot]

That's alright, I know the ins and outs
Just haven't touched the helbore in a long while

[sick cedar]

@spring rose I retract my previous statement

Ran into the london surprise

[spring rose]

Ya found the combat knife vets

Aka blokes from south London

[winter grove]

The squad of "so how do I kill hordes"

[sick cedar]

The benevolent combat knife:

[spring rose]

Combat knife is actually p good at killing hordes

[trim pivot]

I'd buy that zealot armor in a heartbeat if they replace the gimp suit sleeve.

[sick cedar]

You made me notice is

[sick cedar]

Yeah

I run it with lacerate and mercy killer and it's great

[spring rose]

Flesh tearer and riposte my believed

[sick cedar]

I also love the devil's claw and shovel

Very fun

[outer wolf]

what's the min mobility you want on devil's claw? 60? Or 59 would work too

[analog yacht]

On almost everything you dump mob to 60

[outer wolf]

Thx

[analog yacht]

There's a handful of weapons that benefit from having 67% iirc but they're few

And even then I'd probably still just take 60

[outer wolf]

Will upgrade my 61% then

[trim pivot]

I think I figured it out.
We're getting weapon mods next.
But it will incorporate weapon marks entirely, and currently being able to freely change weapon marks is a temporary setup.
Scopes, bayonets, flashlights, receivers, batteries, barrels, decorations, and other stuff so we can make currently unavailable patterns and other configurations.

[analog yacht]

Also combat knife is competing with dueling sword for bis, it's hardly slept on

[outer wolf]

79% cleave instead of 80%, cba to look for another one anyway

[analog yacht]

I mean also if you get one with that 1% it's really not that expensive to just upgrade it at some point

[outer wolf]

Yeah, if I get one I will upgrade it, it's cheap enough these days

[edgy dove]

heavy sword dump stat first target or defenses :o??

[winter grove]

Defense

[edgy dove]

o7

plasma?

[sick cedar]

I still haven't tried the heavy sword

Is it any fun?

[wild summit]

mate what is happening to matchmaking rn?

i genuinely get the worst matches imaginable atm

is there some kind of challenge or event going on where everyone has to spread out?

i can not for the life of me have any team cohesion rn

[winter grove]

None

[analog yacht]

Plasma dump stat depends on how you plan to use it

If you just hipfire it 90% of the time you can dump charge time

[winter grove]

71% charge rate
69% thermal
80% everything else

The ideal plasma

[edgy dove]

o7

wanna try shock maul; any gun/build recommends to pair with it?

[winter grove]

Ima be real

Veteran is kind of class that works on almost any build you make

I got keystoneless lasgun build

It's viable

Keystoneless is a viable strat

[edgy dove]

does feel like it be, yea

[analog yacht]

you need a way to deal with armor. If you go like lasgun + devil's claw you stop existing when armor shows up

[edgy dove]

maybe revolver?

[winter grove]

Basically

Have a way to deal with CARAPACE

[analog yacht]

I ran shock maul + braced revolver for a bit

[winter grove]

Kraks won't do it tbf

You only get 2-3

That's not sustainable whenever more than 2 crushers appear

[analog yacht]

Kraks are to thin out 4 crushers to 2. Not be your main carapace option

They're also solid to stun lock boss

[winter grove]

Frags make the crushers fall

[analog yacht]

Or lob one at a gunner ogryn

[winter grove]

But relying to them is really bad idea vs carapace

Flak is basically "armor"

That basically anything can deal with

[analog yacht]

Except devil's claw

[winter grove]

Except shredder pistol

[winter grove]

Flak dmg +25%:

[analog yacht]

I mean yeah you can make it usable

[winter grove]

I ran shotgun dclaw WS

If you think dclaw has problems with anything but carapace

Them skissue

[daring sage]

heavy sword is also kinda shit vs flak

[edgy dove]

hmm
shock/revolver; ya think that works with infiltrate? havent tried the ability so far

[winter grove]

Yeah

[drowsy aspen]

It's not ideal but HS fucks hard enough that they'll die anyways

[winter grove]

Infiltrate is basically shroudfield but actually useful

[daring sage]

is infiltrate good

[edgy dove]

dunno shroudfield

[daring sage]

i dont think ive ever used it

[winter grove]

6 seconds max invis for shroud

10 + 10 seconds max invis for infiltrate

[earnest bone]

nerfed to 5*

[winter grove]

Every charge gives 10 seconds invis

[drowsy aspen]

Shroudfield isn't good but stealth zealot is great in general

I'm always amazed at how strong stealth zealot is

[winter grove]

If you're also ignoring low profile

[drowsy aspen]

...admittedly I run it with the Heavy Sword and Bolter lmao

[winter grove]

Which is effectively extra 10 seconds of stealth

So basically

40 seconds stealth :)

[drowsy aspen]

Oh wow

Is the two-use stealth worth it?

[winter grove]

I don't like extra cd

But for many people yes

[drowsy aspen]

That +50% cooldown seems gnarly

[sick cedar]

I wanna use stealth for a helbore sniper build tbh

[edgy dove]

hmmm
ig i dont feel a need for the stealth at the difficulties i be playin at rn
maybe later when i do harder stuff

oo

that sounds fun

[sick cedar]

Yeah that's kinda my biggest gripe with it

[winter grove]

It's free objective completion

Free revive

[sick cedar]

I experimented with it before

[winter grove]

Free toughness

[sick cedar]

True, I find myself using it like that most of the time

[drowsy aspen]

Sometimes at higher difficulties it's dangerous tho

[winter grove]

Free get out of the jail crad

[drowsy aspen]

Funneling aggro at your teammates

[sick cedar]

Yeah

[winter grove]

Then they have skill issue if they can't handle it

[drowsy aspen]

Depends I think

[analog yacht]

I think with shock mace I'd take shout

Infiltrate is good for specific stuff

Shout is just go to because it's full toughess+50 that benefits from iron will

In addition to the stagger

[dry cloak]

infiltrate with combat axe

[drowsy aspen]

The Indignatus has an overhead that I really like coming out of stealth with though

Maybe that's more of a Shroudfield thing tho

[analog yacht]

Idk if you wanna one shot stuff out of stealth use something that actually does damage

[sick cedar]

Kark it

Gonna try and make a stealth helbore sniper work

Just for the larp factor

Gonna try and run it on a few regular missions before going into aurics with it

I wish I could take surprise attack

[drowsy aspen]

You're saying the Shock Maul doesn't do damage?

...compared to what?

To my understanding it does great damage into virtually anything

I don't even mind killing Crushers with it

[edgy dove]

used it for a mission

yeah it do pretty decent general damage

special is nice for ragers fr

[wild summit]

i know this is maybe a super minor complaint

but i really wish we could have more loadout slots

[earnest bone]

you can do that via mod if on PC

[wild summit]

what happens when the game updates and i forget to load the mods?

are those just permanently gone?

[earnest bone]

nothing

game loads without mods

[wild summit]

so if i update so the mods work again all the previously set loadouts are still there?

[earnest bone]

you can quit and re-enable mods with 1 button press

[earnest bone]

i think so

as long as you dont delete

mod folder

loadouts will stay

[wild summit]

question

nvm

i am sleep deprived

frick me

[pastel zealot]

Hello! Could one of you tell me which shovel mark is better for mix horde please?

[weak hamlet]

Hey, how would you go about freeing up a slot to allow for demo team (this is a brrt build with the autogun) ?

Veteran is so bottom heavy it's horrible

[wild summit]

what does the guide mean if it has flak or the such standing next to the talent?

[left patrol]

I am so lazy i never use loadout slots

I just swap everything manually (so that means my talents pretty much never change smh)

[thick kestrel]

field improvisation is probably the most likely thing you can drop... it kind of doubles up as another grenade recovery source though the faster medkit healing and corruption cleanse are what you need to balance the choice against.

the other options might be reciprocity?

[tall torrent]

What’s what rending strikes is taken for

To counteract weak flak adm

[wild summit]

oh i thought it was a case of "take this if not taking dmg vs flak" kinda situation

[foggy cloak]

pick
that pr

[wild summit]

btw, of the two caxes, which is best?

[winter grove]

You mean out of three

So rashad

Reason why rashad fucks is brutal momentum being there

From gimmick pov on rashad

It's a dedicated single target melee

With shit cleave

Brutal momentum however let's it to have some op horde clear

[wild summit]

caxe= chain axe

[grand perch]

was wondering why i saw so few snipers in a sniper gauntlet maelstrom. then i look around with exec at the end of the mission, turns out theyre all just chilling

[winter grove]

Chaxe

Caxe is usually referred to Combat Axes

[wild summit]

oooh

my bad

[winter grove]

Yup

And taxes are tactical axes

All fun

[winter grove]

The sights 😭

[grand perch]

yo dawg i heard you like iron sights, so i put iron sights onto your iron sights

[wild summit]

welp, just like that the run ended withing seconds

we had a bad shield gryn

so you can imagine what his first instinct was when anything came remotely close to him 🥲

[winter grove]

THE FACT THAT LASGUN IRONS ARE JUST BELOW THE HH IRONS 😭

[winter grove]

Kill himself?

[wild summit]

plant the shield down and make sure to not contribute

[winter grove]

Ogryns tends to have bad self-preservation skills

The players I mean

[wild summit]

oh he survived alright

but he made no attempt to dodge the trapper when it came to it

[winter grove]

I am sure ogryns in lore have self-preservation instincts of a last bee on a planet

[winter grove]

Oh so like

That shieldgryn?

[spice wadi]

sweet nelly what have you done to your lasgun

[winter grove]

That type

[winter grove]

The only weird part are vraks irons

Imho

[verbal burrow]

I'd consider a different grenade, aura and keystone tbh

[candid agate]

which blessing for infantry autogun is better deathspitter or fire frenzy? (with dum dumb)

[grand perch]

nothing wrong with vraks irons, theyre great. let me aim real good.

[wild summit]

yeah

tbf, it would be cool if the shield prevented dogs and trappers from incapping you if you blocked in their direction

[tall torrent]

That’d be too strong

[tall torrent]

Drop field improv

Or change keystone completely

[umbral scaffold]

Anyone can tell me what can make a Tempestus Scion build?

[molten oar]

Isn't that the whole point of having a shield thoe

Trappers I can understand, but dogs?

Nahhh dogs should be useless against shields

[hearty panther]

disablers are meant to disable

[tall torrent]

Encouraging a move that’s essentially “hold 1 button to be invulnerable to basically every form of damage” to be used more is not conductive to being fun for combat encounters

[hearty panther]

if you wanna counter dogs take that feel no pain node

masters retribution for zealot also does it

[molten oar]

Yea nothing can justify at least 1 option that disables either trappers or dogs not existing

Not both, thats OP

A good run screwed just cause a dog spawns outta nowhere ffs

[tall torrent]

You have FNP vs hounds

[molten oar]

Does FNP actually offset hounds

It just gives more Toughness no?

[thick kestrel]

and it's worth noting that you can be rescued at range from hounds (with the trade off being the direct corruption they deal)

[frank monolith]

what does fnp stand for

[thick kestrel]

shots from allies, impact AoE's or even other enemies can all save you from a hound

[hearty panther]

Pained Outburst

[thick kestrel]

while trappers are arguably a different, larger, risk which trades less "direct" damage from the nets in favour of a much harder to deal with disabling effect (and sneaky ambush capability)

[molten oar]

Ngl imo Trappers are still manageable

I fucking hate hounds

[frank monolith]

im not sure if you guys know this but you can push with melee 👀

and you stop them mid air

[thick kestrel]

i find the opposite ^^

you get more warning with hounds and you can bounce them in the air with pushes

[hearty panther]

Trappers are much more dangerous than Hounds pretty much across the board lol

[thick kestrel]

both being in the game is good, different approaches to two different, dangerous, opponents

[hearty panther]

Hounds are squishier, come up to you in melee range, can be pushed, hit, dodged, or blow'd up before they land. And even if they get you, and amount of stagger can free you from a distance.

[thick kestrel]

the game's difficulty curve is often through putting you through bad situations and having distractions like hounds/trappers/muties are one of the better tools for that

[hearty panther]

Versus Trappers that can only be dodged and always fire at range, displace you when caught, and require direct intervention to free.

[thick kestrel]

admittedly it can feel unfair at times, but that's how it tends to roll sometimes

[hearty panther]

Hounds are annoying but Trappers will fucken kill you

[molten oar]

I usually just 1 shot Trappers cause they take forever to shoot

If I get downed by a Trapper its usually my skill issue

[thick kestrel]

those moments when you get hit by a net and then suddenly hear a burster on it's way to give you a hug ^^

[molten oar]

I should try punching a dog midair for Penance

[hearty panther]

Or two bursters, my favourite

[thick kestrel]

(though it does seem that burster's audio cues have been a little spotty recently?)

[frank monolith]

green hounds are also kinda dangerous since you need to wait for them to jump b4 you can actually push them

[hearty panther]

Green Dogs >:(((

[frank monolith]

trick i found is to move forward while spam pushing to push the one behind it before it jumps and the one you pushed first exploads

[hearty panther]

Sometimes the bursters are perfectly paced out to fuck you

When they line up like that my strat now is to shoot the one that's 2nd in line before the first one gets too close

[thick kestrel]

yarp, making that judgement call between going for the push or the shot... because more often taking the shot is the bad choice...

but sometimes getting the chain detonation of them away from the team is worth the risk

[hearty panther]

Ideally it blows up the entire line, at worst the guy in front lives and I just push them

[tall torrent]

[hearty panther]

but what about the second burster, onoki

[thick kestrel]

huh... recommending opening salvo for the heavy inf lasgun hammer? (just browsing through the Vet guide and hadn't spotted that before)

[tall torrent]

Me when the gun is missing 20~25% damage to one tap gunners & flamers outside of exe stance

[thick kestrel]

I'd have thought it'd still want headhunter + deadly/ghost?

ah, fair ^^

[tall torrent]

Better yet just use IIb

IX is just not very good rn

[thick kestrel]

well yes, but sometimes the IX feels a bit more comfortable... harder to get overly excited and input spam all your accuracy away with the bouncy recoil >_>

fully admit a personal skill issue ^^

[hearty panther]

im never gonna learn these new marks, man

[tall torrent]

[weak hamlet]

Fat chance, FI is one of the best nodes maybe ever

[hearty panther]

eh

[weak hamlet]

And the keystone is what makes the vraks autogun insane

[hearty panther]

it has some big fans but i wouldnt rate it that high lul

[tall torrent]

Ok drop onslaught then

[weak hamlet]

I'm kidding I just really like it

[weak hamlet]

Onslaught is also what makes the vraks insane

[tall torrent]

Nah

U take it only if u want to magdump crushers

That’s it

[weak hamlet]

Like every time I think of something to drop I just can't justify it

[hearty panther]

onslaught is doodoo excepting basically three weapons

[tall torrent]

Onslaught is an easy drop

[weak hamlet]

Exactly what I do

[tall torrent]

What melee are u using

[weak hamlet]

I magdump everything in sight

[weak hamlet]

Knife or foldable shovel or rashad depending on mood

[tall torrent]

Ok but ur missing attack speed for Rashad / knife

Which is more important than onslaught

And both of them deal with carapace better

Pick one, do u want to magdump crushers or do u want good melee

[weak hamlet]

No I have it I have the melee finesse node already

[tall torrent]

Finesse is not attack speed

[weak hamlet]

The finesse stat on weapons that have it is

[tall torrent]

Finesse only includes attack speed in the weapon stat

Otherwise it refers to weakspot & crit damage

It does not change attack speed

[weak hamlet]

That's stupid

[tall torrent]

What you need is trench fighter drill

Which u cannot afford with onslaught

Pick one, do u want to magdump crushers or have good melee

[weak hamlet]

I don't care about melee too much because it's a brrt build

[tall torrent]

Ok drop desperado

Bring smth like power sword

And just cope with melee

[candid agate]

gonna put this down here

[tall torrent]

Deathspitter

[candid agate]

cheers

[earnest bone]

They can make that the first dog break the stance, so you can't just tank all of them, but the fact that a big guy with a 2-ton shield cant block a small dog is hilarious

[molten oar]

Thats a splendid idea

Anything that helps me so I don't feel like a little bitch whenever barking ensues is based

[pure vigil]

you mean rashad

[tall torrent]

Rashad wants that 10% atk speed node

He can’t reach it because he wants to magdump

[pure vigil]

power sword is still mid af

[tall torrent]

It’s Rashad lite with 5 point lower cost

[grizzled pebble]

Buff it give it 5 dodges and better recovery.

[pure vigil]

it just needs better mobi and it'd be fine tbh

[hearty panther]

'be fine'??

its already a top 5 weapon lmao

[pure vigil]

LOL

[hearty panther]

what it really needs is less juiced up damage and more unjuiced damage so you aren't constantly playing off the special. Cause that's what makes it boring and awful and why you'd want the mobility buffed

it just gets old to do the same two/three attacks over and over

but uncharged its shittier than a Dclaw

[pure vigil]

no it's because it's dodges are shit and weapons that are already better than it have better dodges as well

[hearty panther]

Caxes really should have their dodges nerfed tbh

[pure vigil]

nah

i love the rashad

most KIIINNNOOOO weapon in the game

[tall torrent]

Nah
Buff base cleave
Nerf BM

[pure vigil]

BM is overtweaked yeah

[hearty panther]

or that

im all for nuking BM in general

[tall torrent]

Buff base cleave fo like 5 (?)
And nerf BM to only apply to 2nd target

[pure vigil]

heavy sword 9 with deathblow lol

[hearty panther]

i think 3.25

[pure vigil]

kill like 5 ragers in one swing

[hearty panther]

would be my cleave number for caxe lights

then give achlys like 8 on its side heavy

[tall torrent]

What’s that number for

[hearty panther]

keeping in mind that they have access to ht and deci

it would still hit two bruisers

without

[tall torrent]

Yes
But decimator sucks
So it’s really just headtaker

[hearty panther]

u suck

ever think of that

[tall torrent]

3.25 doesn’t hit 2 scab bruisers

[hearty panther]

doesnt it

i thought they were 3

[tall torrent]

Scab bruiser is 3.5 mass

[hearty panther]

oh right, fuck

3.75 then

[tall torrent]

Just go 5

[pure vigil]

vets will complain about caxes but think plasma is perfectly healthy lol

[tall torrent]

If BM only hits 2 guys, I don’t see how 5 cleave is a problem given it has dogshit cleave distribution on its own

[hearty panther]

plasma is not healthy even in its own vacuum

charged shots and the heat mechanic are still purposeless atm

[tall torrent]

Plasma can use somewhere like
-90% cleave on uncharged shots

Nerf from 50 to 5

Maybe even lower

[pure vigil]

cleaves 100 poxwalkers or something

lol

goes through walls

"nerf caxe!" the duelling sword in question

lol

ds4 is actually just stupid

[tall torrent]

A lot of things need to be tuned down, it’s not just one

Just because duelling sword is broken doesn’t mean combat axe should stay where it’s at

[undone jungle]

ello, anyone got a fun autogun build

[pure vigil]

fix spawns

[dreamy spade]

Anyone know the difference between optimized cooling an volatile?

[glacial ledge]

question, what weapon should i pair with the combat shotgun to deal with a horde of crushers/maulers

[undone jungle]

depends on how you use your combat shotgun. on my lawbringer scattershot/manstopper I run a combat knife, but you might do better with mk6 power sword or mk3 folding shovel

[glacial ledge]

thanks for the feedback, i'll tweak my build to see how it goes

[undone jungle]

np. I can send you my lawbringer build if you'd like, although it mainly uses lb for deleting hordes, for single target killing you want to run the no respite blessing

[feral jetty]

Hope yall are having a good day gamers ❤️

[glacial ledge]

oh that would be wonderful, i want to try something out too

[feral jetty]

I might need to find some builds since I haven't touched my vet in a while lmao

P sure his talent tree is gonna be all reset

[undone jungle]

Tbh the build I'm sending is nowhere near meta. I find the meta options right now pretty boring to use (plasma gun)

It is definitely fun and I top score consistently on auric damn with it tho

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d36eb92-f9bb-41e2-9b8a-720e1905e82e/this-is-my-lawbringer-horde-clear-auric-ready

[feral jetty]

Ye I feel it

[glacial ledge]

i'm more into fun stuff rather than meta so this is alright

[feral jetty]

When I was playing my vet last patch with shout and plasma it defo uh

Felt like I was shredding everything lmao

[glacial ledge]

lore accurate plasma

[undone jungle]

yeah I'm past the skill level of needing to run rashad/plasma to break above 50% winrate on regular damnation I'd rather try something fresh

[feral jetty]

I feel it

If you wanna game sometime I'd love to, Runk always needs more friends

[undone jungle]

might hop on right now if you'd like to play

[feral jetty]

I need to shower and brush teef first but after I'm down

🤟

Been sitting in bed for like 30 mins

[undone jungle]

I'll go tinker on an autogun vet build since I haven't used one of those in a while

[feral jetty]

Betsies

[glacial ledge]

ooh this is pretty interesting, imma try it later
thankies

[wooden ivy]

Go full dmg and use the auto gun with the most ammo you will need it

[frank monolith]

@verbal burrow game crashed wait a sec

[tropic abyss]

Long bomb has to be done with a frag nade, right? Shreder frag works as well?

what are some tips for that one?

[faint beacon]

Technically works with kraks iirc

You stick a Crusher from miles away I recall it’s considered still airborne

@tall torrent confirm this when you get the chance

But shredders yes

[frank monolith]

@verbal burrow its like the perma smite psykers are the ones that i dont like, they smite 2 poxwalker if they see it

or dont pick you up when your near them

[tropic abyss]

do different nades have different fuse times?

for longer or shorter?

[runic axle]

I'm guessing on Rashad I should dump mobility?

[dreamy spade]

Yes

[frank monolith]

@verbal burrow btw we are waiting for the next maelstrom

since there are only 3 of us

[verbal burrow]

That's fine, we should probably find a 4th

[undone jungle]

Thanks I'll also breathe oxygen and eat food maybe even drink water

[verbal burrow]

I use https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d31e12b-696a-4fd3-9eda-fc37a637a530/empowered-shrieking-smite-seer-with-permablock-4

roughly in any case

[wooden ivy]

Drinking water is for the weak drink coke and eat cigarettes

[verbal burrow]

I mostly use charge up mode on Electrokinetic staff. Smite is for when you spot a good opportunity to stun a whole horde for your boys, not the main dinner course

It's also hilarious how it takes a demonhost 3 attacks to increase my peril by 1%

Eventually she gets bored and leaves if the team doesn't intervene

[frank monolith]

yep use charge surge staff most of the time when in a pickle use smite, thats what we dont hate, but we hate it when a psyker perma smite everything

[frank monolith]

block on peril right

[verbal burrow]

Entire build is readable slightly up the log. Short answer is yes, but cost scales off of Stamina

[idle swallow]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say triple stacking Stam curios may be overkill

[verbal burrow]

only real changes to it is that I now run anti flak and anti maniac on the staff due to a lack of unyielding enemies

[verbal burrow]

It is yes, it is also extremely funny

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17iul4b/why_i_think_3_stam_is_mandatory_on_psyker/

Look at video before arguing against it

[real flicker]

is this worth keeping?

[verbal burrow]

Do you plan to use the charge-up fire mode with RMB at all?

[real flicker]

Im not usre honestly

sure

[verbal burrow]

if you're just gonna spam the left mouse button firing mode you can genuinely just make charge rate the dump stat

[frank monolith]

@real flicker bloop

[verbal burrow]

but you'll probably want the perks to be anti unarmoured and anti flak so that you can guarantee a kill on gunners regardless of whether you hit their armour or their skin

not being able to one tap a gunner on auric damnation maelstrom is very awkward for a plasma man

and then there's shotgunners which share the gunner's flak + unarmoured mix getup

[leaden skiff]

What's peeps running on Boltgun these days?

[frank monolith]

@verbal burrow we might have a speed runner so its going to be a bit hard

[real flicker]

thanks, that roll seems pretty hard to get ngl

[verbal burrow]

me gloryhunter and surgical

[tall torrent]

Either frag grenade or shredder frag (upgraded frag)
Throw high up at enemies far away (~40m)
Basically u want to have the grenade airburst

[tropic abyss]

what are some good maps for that?

[sleek garden]

the bridge in the torrent

at the beginning of the horde where the guy gets on the loudspeaker and says kill hte intrudas!!!

[tall torrent]

Magistrati oubliette, first long catwalk
Silo cluster / vigil station, main bridge

[pseudo fiber]

end of enclavum barross too

[sleek garden]

I'm copying my loadout from space marine 2 in here

I'm hitting people with the catachan sword and then sniping some random dude with a plasma pistol

it was working pretty well

[viral nacelle]

what is the least shitty marksman focus build people have for getting the penance

because my gut is "double barrel and aim for heads"

[radiant chasm]

Lawbringer

As long as one pellet hits the weakspot it counts as a weakspot hit

Nvm

Zarona now

[cobalt crest]

Is the plasma guns charge damage tied to heat

Or how long you hold right click

[verbal burrow]

I find that when you ignore penances and focus on the game, you achieve nirvana

Just enjoy and vibe

[viral nacelle]

i find that i already did that for two years and want penances

[tropic abyss]

anything as long as you have Camouflage

I use infantry lasgun and autogun

[viral nacelle]

not a bad shout

[tropic abyss]

MF requires Camouflage to be good

[radiant chasm]

No

Zarona shotgun can use shout

[tropic abyss]

you can have shout and camo at the same time

[radiant chasm]

?

[tropic abyss]

I'm talking about camouflage, not infiltrate

[radiant chasm]

Yea the node attached to infiltrate

[tropic abyss]

no

the keystone modifier

[radiant chasm]

Oh that node

I don’t feel it’s needed with the meme since zarona can full stack in a single shot vs horde

[tropic abyss]

yeah but you have limited ammo and slow firing rate

[radiant chasm]

Zarona shotgun is neither of those

[tropic abyss]

with a lasgun or autogun you have infinite ammo with scavenger and can pop heads all day

[radiant chasm]

You just farm hordes

[tropic abyss]

with those you just play the game

[radiant chasm]

Yes but this is penance farming

[viral nacelle]

yep

consider the purpose of the build

[radiant chasm]

Zarona shotgun is just speedrunning penance clear

[viral nacelle]

generate as many kills at max MF as possible

[tropic abyss]

eh..

seems boring but okay

[radiant chasm]

Yes

But it completes the penance fast

[tropic abyss]

I want to complete longbomb fast

[viral nacelle]

longbomb is easy

literally just aim the grenade

[cobalt crest]

Slaughterer or brutal momentum for power sword?

[tropic abyss]

I don't use frag grenades normally

[radiant chasm]

Longbomb on manufacturum repair

[radiant chasm]

BM

[tropic abyss]

so it's annoying to have to change the build just for it

[radiant chasm]

I mean when the penance was made it was the only nade

[viral nacelle]

the penances are to get you to play different builds

[radiant chasm]

And frags are great, good for u to do fun bistol nade build

[cobalt crest]

Also mk vi was better for single target and mk 3 was better for hordes?

[viral nacelle]

if you only play one build, surprise, you wont get them

[cobalt crest]

Or am I mixing it up

[radiant chasm]

Smh penances shouldn’t be a grind or force me to change my build- reddit probably

[viral nacelle]

Marksman focus one could stand to be less grindy 😂

[radiant chasm]

Tbf it’s meant to be earned over multiple games, like some of the ogryn ones

People just wanna powerfarm it

Like the reaper penance groups lol

[tall torrent]

Most tedious ones are Ogryn’s heavy hitter 5k kills, lucky bullet 4.5k procs, and veteran’s krak grenade 500 armored enemy kills

[pseudo fiber]

heavy hitter definately took the longest for me

lucky bullet was me throwing sedation

[viral nacelle]

heavy hitter isnt too bad, shield + heavy hitter + auric mael and youre done in an hour

ugh i forgot i needed to make a build capable of supporting the special needs community while doing this

nice a group that was dead before i joined got me power sword mastery so now i can never use that thing again

[tropic abyss]

unless you're farming, veteran 500 krak kills isn't too much of a bitch to

same with marksman focus

[tall torrent]

It just takes a while

[tropic abyss]

Focus soldier is worse because you have to kill the enemy yourself

when the whole point of tagging them is that everyone knows about it

all the volley fire penances are easy and quick to do, without being grindy

smoke screen and unseen predator are lame because the skills they require are lame

the fire team and close and kill ones are lame too, for the same reason

[viral nacelle]

smoke is actually ok when you are in a gunner mael

forces them all close to you for murdering

i ran a smoke spam build in one and was surprised how effective it was

[tropic abyss]

better than forcing them to close in, it's killing them

but fair

at least the radius of the smoke is massive

[viral nacelle]

most of the nades cant reach gunner mobs at distance

and it also forces melee in close

[pastel zealot]

hey whats the best horde clearing melee?

[viral nacelle]

smoke can just be dumped on the bad space and keep people alive

[viral nacelle]

powersword, chainsword 13 with the two blessings that make it get more cleave

couple other things are pretty solid

combat knife is traditional

[pastel zealot]

powersword frustrates me -_- the electric goes away if you get smacked

[tropic abyss]

chainsword then

shovel is nice, but it's not the best for that

[pastel zealot]

chainsword then

how often y'all rev?

[viral nacelle]

You should have something useful for killing armor in your ranged slot if you’re bringing chainsword

Which means you really only shred mutie

[pastel zealot]

well, my recon lasgun melts everything

just shit gets hairy when i get swarmed

how come nobody talks about the heavy sword?

is it not good?

[thick kestrel]

it's pretty solid! but tends to be more effective on Zealot overall. they get some particular nodes which help boost it quite nicely.

[tropic abyss]

so this worked

[pastel zealot]

so general consensus is chain sword for clearing?

[terse idol]

I mean

Vets get the 30% weakpoint damage ontop of deathblow

Like, the issue with heavy sword on vet is no carapace damage but that's even an issue for zealot

Its great for everything else

[viral nacelle]

Issue with heavy sword is that knife does what it does better

[terse idol]

Well besides hordes

[viral nacelle]

Knife is fine against hordes

[terse idol]

Chainswors is pretty bad

[terse idol]

There is no deathblow

No brutal momentum

[pastel zealot]

wait why D:

[viral nacelle]

Which doesn’t matter 🤷‍♀️ it’s still effective because hordes aren’t high hp and you can aim for heads

[terse idol]

I mean it does

[orchid hemlock]

I never liked CS on Vet, yes it clears trash well but the momment there is a single mauler or xcrusher in there you are fucked

[viral nacelle]

And with the crit chance stacking you’ll finesse their balls off

[terse idol]

Because it just means you clear hordes faster

[orchid hemlock]

the rev up takes too long

[terse idol]

Like heavy sword is good in what it does

Knife has more mobility and the PA combo to kill crushers

It is better but not for horde clear

[orchid hemlock]

CS has a similar problem with HS, it has no consistent method of taking out carapace

[terse idol]

Yeah

[viral nacelle]

He’s going recon las

[terse idol]

Where as the knife has good crusher killing

But the horde clear is worse than hs

[orchid hemlock]

OK?

[terse idol]

I thought the thought process here was why the HS isn't used very much or talked about

[viral nacelle]

Don’t really need the melee to handle crusher if you brrt everything and dodge

[thick kestrel]

true, I guess I'm leaning more towards it's special attack's "attack while sprinting" upside and the general vibe of the heavy sword's thing being blending through hordes while cackling just kind of suit Zealot a little better.

[orchid hemlock]

Unless u have onslaught, recon is horrific at dealing with carapace

[terse idol]

You still don't really want to shoot everything with the recon imo

[pastel zealot]

so basically i run recon las (burn), VoC, Krak nades. i have armored stuff handled

[terse idol]

Where you can just

[orchid hemlock]

Even if u do have onslaught, it isn't amazing like a bolt, plasma, or revolver

[terse idol]

Take something with deathblow or BM and clear hordes

[terse idol]

Then you can take a HS

[pastel zealot]

its the up close stuff that makes me uncomfortable

[viral nacelle]

Anyway shovel, worth using or just spend some plas to get the mastery and move on with life

[terse idol]

Get deathblow and headtaker

[terse idol]

Yesss then get death blow, headtaker on your heavy sword

Or...

[thick kestrel]

Shovels are great, good solid versatile picks.

[terse idol]

A rashad

[pastel zealot]

there a specific mark?

[terse idol]

I forgor which

[thick kestrel]

IX?

[terse idol]

But it's the one with the hand guard

[pastel zealot]

kk

[orchid hemlock]

If you want wave clear, take the PS

It wipes hordes and deals with mixed hordes very well

[terse idol]

At least for me

[viral nacelle]

I haven’t used shovel since beta because I think it looks dumb

[terse idol]

I like the one with the hand guard

[pastel zealot]

hello Orcka! my issue with PS is getting smacked while using the charge. goes away and kinda makes me fumble 😦

[thick kestrel]

heh fair, the classic shovel is a solid all rounder, the folding shovels give you an on-demand tool for fighting against carapace

[viral nacelle]

So mk3 with what blessing wise

[thick kestrel]

with uncanny/thust the folding shovels are just generally solid low investment picks

[viral nacelle]

Yeah figures

[thick kestrel]

I'm partial to the mk7 version personally, just vibe with the attack pattern a little more

[viral nacelle]

Sapper shovel only has 1/2/3?

Did they renumber

Driving me mad with this rename renumber business

[hearty panther]

who knows anymore. i certainly dont.

[orchid hemlock]

That sounds like something you should be practicing then. PS is just giga broken and solves all of the problems vet has in melee

[thick kestrel]

1, 3 and 7

[terse idol]

It is however bugged it seems like

[pastel zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/jJqTYLK.png

is this correct?

[terse idol]

When you charge it, it acts goofy

[orchid hemlock]

The only other melees I would recommend if you are not taking desperado and trench is shovel, DS, and Smaul

[terse idol]

Rashad

[orchid hemlock]

Rashad is good if u take trench

Fbm 😔

I would put Rashad on every build if I could

[hollow ibex]

rashad is the answer to literally everything

truly a balanced and high-skill weapon

[orchid hemlock]

He's going a recon build, so he probably isn't taking too many melee nodes

[slow spade]

weapon specialist recon UwU

[pastel zealot]

its the Funny Laser Pointer you sent me

[hollow ibex]

could prob still make rashad work tbh

i run rashad with recon

[orchid hemlock]

I have started to become shock spilled tho, because the one thing the shock provides that no other weapon does is a very clean answer to BULLWALKS

It's not a bad weapon at clearing either

[pastel zealot]

was my powersword correct?

[slow spade]

we need a melta gun to counter bulwarks

Fatshark pls

[viral nacelle]

Shock maul with electric blessing is also nice when doing surge smite on psyker

[orchid hemlock]

yes but i personally don't like PS because of how heavy it is

[pastel zealot]

perks too?

[hearty panther]

i genuinely think its a bad weapon, not in terms of performance but in terms of design

[orchid hemlock]

yes it is a very strong weapon in most scenarios, but I prefer to have mobility over raw power

[pastel zealot]

im just trying to find a very easy to use and comfortable melee xD

[viral nacelle]

I think power sword is just annoying to use

[orchid hemlock]

the comfort of the activation isn't really a problem because once you learn to activate it within animation cancels while sliding or blocking it becomes like any other weapon

[pastel zealot]

i can practice using the PS, i dont like how the rashad axe feels (sorry y'all) and the shovel, nobody has answered my question about which mark is preferrable, so i tried each one and it just tickles mobs

[orchid hemlock]

my favorite has always been standard

[pastel zealot]

heavy attack spam?

[orchid hemlock]

mostly because the 2 best blessings synergize best with it

[orchid hemlock]

for hordes yes, the combo is very different tho on elites or unyielding

[pastel zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/B2bkfUN.png ?

this look about right?

[orchid hemlock]

i prefer skull over decimator

[pastel zealot]

so odd smacking things with a shovel

[orchid hemlock]

for single the combo is: PA>L>L>SP>L

[pastel zealot]

unyielding ima just do some krak

[orchid hemlock]

the push attack on all shovles is also one of the best, which is why I prefer defense over mobility

[pastel zealot]

_<

[orchid hemlock]

shovel is good at dealing with unyielding thanks to uncanny

if u headshot a crusher with the SP u can stagger than and start the combo

the only problem with the shovel is that it does not have good damage unless you are constantly headshotting

[pastel zealot]

hmm

what melee do YOU prefer always?

[orchid hemlock]

This is why I have been experimenting with Smaul because it might be a better version of the shovel 🤔

[viral nacelle]

Chainsword is easy, no practice needed. Just take the cleave blessings on the 13 and other than the occasional block + aiming at heads you can mow through flak + pox walkers

[orchid hemlock]

DS

[pastel zealot]

isnt DS kinda bad for hordes though?

[orchid hemlock]

but that is because I don't prioritize raw wave clear

[pastel zealot]

ahh

[hollow ibex]

it's fine, not great, but not horrible either

DS is very good overall

[slow spade]

dueling sword is shit at horde clear

[orchid hemlock]

Its bad but it isn't the worst, but what I value more again is mobility and the ability to take out key targets fast

[slow spade]

Fatshark needs to buff it

[viral nacelle]

Mk2 is ok at it

[orchid hemlock]

I don't have problems with pox walkers

[slow spade]

need buff

give it Brutal Momentum

[tall torrent]

It’s still pretty low

[tall torrent]

No, shovel is bad vs boss, uncanny just makes it go from “dogshit” to “bad”

[orchid hemlock]

Also I updated my laser pointer build, go check it out again

[orchid hemlock]

Bosses no, but since the SP can stun Ogryns it isn't bad

[viral nacelle]

Link?

[pastel zealot]

which blessings to use on heavy sword? ima give this one a go

[tall torrent]

Deathblow + headtaker for IX

Headtaker + bladed momentum/deathblow/rampage for VI / VII

[pastel zealot]

kk

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[pastel zealot]

Bring It Down instead of suppression immunity. its what i ended up changing too

[pastel zealot]

what perks?

[tall torrent]

Flak + maniac/elite

[orchid hemlock]

I'm getting shock pilled 😔

[serene bough]

Is shockmaul good

[pastel zealot]

do you have video showcasing the shockmaul?

[tall torrent]

Can be decent

[serene bough]

I only played with it for mastery but couldn't figure out how to make it viable

[orchid hemlock]

Being able to stun BULLWALKS makes me a believer 😭

[orchid hemlock]

Does the overhead headshots stun crushers just like Rashad? 🤔

[tall torrent]

No

[orchid hemlock]

😔

[gilded wraith]

Is the better shredder grenades worth the point?

[tall torrent]

Which talent?

[gilded wraith]

Enhanced radius talent. Tinkerer?

[frail citrus]

breaking my back over trying to find a difference between the two, cant find one. am i crazy or is it just a different animation for power up?

[hollow ibex]

the difference is that mk6 is just straight up better, and the other can be ignored

[tall torrent]

Usually good, but u don’t have to since it’s a 2 point grab

[gilded wraith]

Gotcha

[frail citrus]

this is what im sayin!

[gilded wraith]

I've seen a mk 3 player that macroed perfectly timed heavies and special activation with sunder and pc4. They did work, but it looked like a lot of effort for the return.

[hollow ibex]

they would've just done more damage playing mk6

[half parrot]

Anyone got a rashad they can show?

[sleek garden]

the fattest one's heavies are straight sideways, the light moveset is just two diagonal swings

the other one has a more varied light moveset, and the heavies arc downwards then up

[woven oak]

I'm not 100% sure why I have maniac instead of carapace. Probably should change that

[half parrot]

ohhh thanks!

[slow spade]

fuck dreg ragers

[woven oak]

Fair.

[warm harbor]

So veterans
Melee of choice?

[umbral scaffold]

i like chain axe and power sword

[tropic abyss]

Shovel

[woven oak]

Most are fun. For me, Power Sword > Rashad > Duelling Sword

[hearty panther]

standard shovel

[grand perch]

Chain Axe

HA

no

[tall torrent]

Unarmored + maniac is for what

[terse idol]

I'm uhhhh

Dueling sword, Dclaw, Heavy sword

I don't like the rashad now because it's too... strong? Something like that

[terse idol]

Mistake, six said they're swapping for cara

For maniac

[tall torrent]

[terse idol]

[frigid nimbus]

[woven oak]

Unarmored for scab bruisers, no?

You do also have unarmored as a choice for rashad in your guide.

[tall torrent]

U can hit it without, unarmored just makes u 1 tap them without headtaker stacks
And makes Dreg gunner 2HS easier to reach
Also gives u crit 1HS Dreg shotgunner

[woven oak]

I have no particular reason for maniac

[slow spade]

you got to melee trappers ;)

[candid bridge]

is toughness regen worth it on curios for vets?

[somber adder]

Never worth it as it only benefits the passive toughness regen you get from coherency

[faint beacon]

Not really no the talents make up for it

You want flat HP and toughness curios though

[sleek garden]

is this heat or na

[slow spade]

it should work

both weapons complement each other

[potent canyon]

Does block efficiency apply to devil sword parry or is it just stamina?

[slow spade]

iirc it does

[candid bridge]

does gunners resist apply to shotgun guys or is it only the machine gun dudes

[hearty panther]

only gunners and reapers

[candid bridge]

gotcha, thanks

[tropic abyss]

so it doesn't affect Confirmed Kill?

[tall torrent]

block efficiency reduces stamina cost of all block actions, including DC swords' parry

[tropic abyss]

how does combat ability regeneration works? Is 4% a big deal?

[tall torrent]

Reduce ability’s base cooldown by 4% (up to -12%)

This is at most -3.6s for exe and VoC, and -5.4s for infiltrate

You could try it and see if u like

Usually it’s not necessary though

[tropic abyss]

I was running stamina regen, running eficiency and tou regen

if tou regen only applies to coherency i might swich that for something else

[tall torrent]

I don’t think u need both stam regen rate and sprint efficiency

Pick one between them

[tropic abyss]

there aren't that many interesting perks for curios

[slow spade]

3x Dockets UwU

you can't go wrong with being rich 💪

[cyan anchor]

should I buy this?

[hollow ibex]

nah

[cyan anchor]

what about this it has good stats i think

[hollow ibex]

melk stuff is not great anymore

unless you just need something to help level up and you're not planning to level through sacrifice spam

[cyan anchor]

just looking for weapons you guys say are good

[tropic abyss]

most of the time you want to dump mobility with melee weapons

sometimes you want to dump damage

and sometimes you want to dump defence

but first target, penetration, crowd control and the like are always great and you want those at 80

[cyan anchor]

i mostly mean with blessings cause idk what some even do or if some are just trash on any weapon

[hollow ibex]

check the pinned guide

that covers the recommended blessings/perks and what weapons are good

[tropic abyss]

blessings and perks are trivial to change

stats are not

[hollow ibex]

most weapons are easy to roll for perfect stats at least

usually get a perfect roll within 10 purchases at brunt's armory

[tropic abyss]

I just wait around and buy one

they're not that rare

perfect curios, on the other hand...

[hollow ibex]

curios take a while, but you can pretty much get perfectly rolled weapons on demand from brunt's armory, normally within 100k credits

so it's easier to just do that

[cyan anchor]

how is this weapon btw ive been using it for a long time

[tawdry jackal]

Anyone got a good infiltrate build?

Looking to run it with bistol and chainaxe as a change of pace

[rigid schooner]

oh dear, concentration stim and stealth gives me cataracts

[tawdry jackal]

I grab weapons at melks that are near perfect for leveling

[rigid schooner]

i can barely see anything

[tawdry jackal]

I’m kinda giving up on perfect 80s and a 60

[hollow ibex]

i do that too

[hollow ibex]

just get them at brunts armory

[tawdry jackal]

Needs way more finesse, dump mobility but good for a stopgap I guess

[hollow ibex]

you should get a perfect roll within 100-200k credits

[tawdry jackal]

Bro I don’t feel like grinding them up via empower forever

It’s not the roll, it’s the base stats

[hollow ibex]

bro it's only 100k-200k credits

[tawdry jackal]

Melks comes maxed in something

[hollow ibex]

for perfect stats

[tawdry jackal]

Bro it’s called fucking diamantine

[hollow ibex]

broke ass mfer lmao

aight

[tawdry jackal]

I ain’t got all day to grind

Yo fuck off

[hollow ibex]

i don't grind all day, and i run only perfect weapons unless i'm leveling

lol nice, block me because you can't handle your own incompetence

that's cool

[cyan anchor]

how do i "dump" mobility
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[tawdry jackal]

Back to what I was asking about. Anyone mind helping me with this please?

[hollow ibex]

it just means the mobility stat is at 60

while everything else is at 80

[tawdry jackal]

You get a weapon with it as the lowest stat

[cyan anchor]

is that the empower tab at the weapson station

[tawdry jackal]

That’s what we mean when we say “dump stat.” We’re looking for perfect in everything else

[orchid hemlock]

mobility is the dump stat

[tawdry jackal]

No that upgrades the weapon

[orchid hemlock]

finesse is very important on chainsword because it likes criting

[cyan anchor]

well how do i change the stat then

[tawdry jackal]

You don’t

You get a new weapon with new maximums

[orchid hemlock]

u keep buying them from melk until u get the weapon you want

[hollow ibex]

you buy them from brunts

[tawdry jackal]

Then you use empower to max out the ideal weapon’s stat array

[hollow ibex]

getting a perfect roll from melks basically ain't happening

[rigid schooner]

so how exactly do the two folding shovels differ for vet? the green one just seems to have worse swing pattern than the other two

[real flicker]

whats the best Heavy sword?

[cyan anchor]

how I want everything BUT mobility to be high on my chain sword?

[hollow ibex]

yes

[orchid hemlock]

yes

[tropic abyss]

milk takes to long to reroll, check brunt's shop every hour and you'll find perfect weapons real quick

[tawdry jackal]

C

That’s also a thing I do

[tropic abyss]

they'd be around high 300 low 400

[hollow ibex]

no just buy it from the armory

[tawdry jackal]

The ones I want to grow, I go to brunt

[tropic abyss]

no too expensive to upgrade to 500

[hollow ibex]

jfc why does everyone waste their time with the rng shops

[tawdry jackal]

Immediate use for mastery leveling, I occasionally do melk

[tropic abyss]

because farming brunt requisition is lame

[hollow ibex]

the chances of getting an actually perfect roll from melks/the rng docket shop are next to nil

[tawdry jackal]

And then grab the perfect weapon later

[tropic abyss]

I can play just fine with a sub perfect one and every hour check the shop

[cyan anchor]

what is this 78/80 thing along with that faded bar? is the 78 my current dmg?

[tropic abyss]

I got plenty of those from the shop

[hollow ibex]

i just like having a god roll and being done with it

[tawdry jackal]

Yes

Current stat/maximum stat

That’s how you read that friend

[cyan anchor]

so the 80 is the potential dmg i could make it?

[orchid hemlock]

the left is the current stat, the right is the potential stat if you upgrade the weapon

[tawdry jackal]

That’s what I just said

[cyan anchor]

im stupid ok-

[hollow ibex]

you increase the stats by empowering until you reach the max potential

[tawdry jackal]

I don’t know if English is your first language so I’m trying to be kind. People come from all over here

[cyan anchor]

yeah i need to use my sword more so I can unlock empowering

[cyan anchor]

Im just on the spectrum

[tropic abyss]

if you have the money to burn, you can buy the same weapon at green or above and sacrifice it

[hollow ibex]

you basically need 19 mastery before doing any real empowering

[tawdry jackal]

So am I. This statement means nothing to me

[hollow ibex]

which is annoying but better than the old system at least

[slow spade]

the new system hates poor people

don't be poor c:

[cyan anchor]

[hollow ibex]

yeah got blocked by this poor guy earlier moaning about how expensive empower is

maybe try eating cake?

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lol-leonardo-dicaprio-rofl-hahaha-gif-15948272

[tawdry jackal]

Alright be easy bro. Enjoy your games and best of luck to ya

[slow spade]

being poor truly is the worst debuff UwU

[tawdry jackal]

For real

Like fat shark gimme the loot

[hollow ibex]

aren't dockets some made up bullshit currency only on the mourningstar anyway?

ig diamantine and plasteel are actual resources though

[cyan anchor]

this might be good if once I can upgrade it right?

[hollow ibex]

yes, very close to perfect

[cyan anchor]

im slowly understanding this, this is so much better than the old system

[hollow ibex]

it's gonna be expensive to empower though

so make sure you're ready for that

[cyan anchor]

GRIND

[hollow ibex]

shouldn't be too bad if you play some damnation

[stoic thorn]

What's the benefit of buying from brunts armoury

[cyan anchor]

Yeah i recently started trying that lvl, all i gotta do to unlock empower is just keep using my sword right

[cyan anchor]

keep buying till u get a good stat gun I think

[hollow ibex]

you get god rolls within 100-200k dockets usually

afterward you'll still need to consecrate/empower though

[tawdry jackal]

Bolt pistol/Chainsword or Chainaxe. @tall torrent

Or anyone who runs infil vet.