veteran-class

[verbal burrow]

It is what it is

[somber axle]

I could swear someone came in here and said that the difference between 60% and 80% charge rate is only 0.07 seconds per shot which is imperceptible and does not meaningfully affect gameplay

[verbal burrow]

It's what the Omnissiah gave me

[somber axle]

for uncharged shot spamming

[tall torrent]

U can roll another that’ll hit breakpoints easily

[tall torrent]

It’s 0.1s

Between 60% and 80%

Which doesn’t sound like a lot

[verbal burrow]

So what would you want me to hit 80% on for a plasma?

if it was your weapon

[tall torrent]

Perfect roll is 80% damage, 80% stopping power, 80% ammo, 69% thermal resist and 71% charge rate

[somber axle]

so you could dump stat ammo then? but ouch

[verbal burrow]

So Damage, Stopping Power, Ammo

[tall torrent]

Nah

It just doesn’t have a dump stat

[verbal burrow]

What does Stopping Power actually do? I assumed it was knockback

[tall torrent]

Armor damage

[verbal burrow]

oh ffs

[vestal widget]

you can inspect weapon

[somber axle]

what's the difference between 60% charge rate and 71% charge rate if it's 0.1 between 60% and 80%

[vestal widget]

and mouse over to see what all the stat bars do

[verbal burrow]

Off to Brunt's RNG mines I go

[somber axle]

is that just getting you 0.05 better rate of fire

because that sounds really nit picky

it doesn't really seem like it's changing gameplay meaningfully

[tall torrent]

93.0rpm (71% charge rate)
85.7rpm (60% charge rate)

That’s an 8.5% attack speed difference

It’s noticeable

[somber axle]

for optimizing sure, for average gameplay is it really going to make or break

[tall torrent]

Directly impacts how the gun feels

Yea I said perfect roll

It’s the hardest weapon to perfect roll in the game rn

[somber axle]

the fire rate is impacted more by heat cap anyway

[tall torrent]

Which 69% thermal resist solves

[somber axle]

wouldn't it be better to get something like focused cooling too

[tall torrent]

U can fire 8 continuous

Below 69% u have only 7

This is why charge rate optimal is that bizarre 71%

[somber axle]

if you crit every shot what's the max number of shots with focused cooling you could potentially get before heat cap?

[tall torrent]

Above 69% thermal does nothing

It wouldn’t matter because rising heat is just better

And the cooling blessings are not worth

[last parcel]

but it's clown science time

[somber axle]

is rising heat helping hit breakpoints you couldn't hit otherwise? I thought you could run Gloryhunter before

[tall torrent]

Yes

Because it’s +strength so it’s multiplicative to damage

[somber axle]

so you miss breakpoints on gloryhunter?

which ones?

[tall torrent]

It’s not a major one

Rising heat mainly helps with Dreg rager 1HS

[somber axle]

because you said it's not a boss damage weapon so idk why the extra damage is important

ah ok

[tall torrent]

And allows u to 1 tap gunners & flamers without FT/redirect fire

So it’s higher consistency value

[somber axle]

wouldn't you just run FT/RF to cover that breakpoint anyway?

[tall torrent]

And easy to maintain

[somber axle]

or is this to open up to using weapon specialist keystone instead?

[tall torrent]

Gloryhunter is still fine

[tall torrent]

This opens up WS yes

But I don’t like WS plasma

[somber axle]

I can't imagine Marksman's Focus would be a good alternative for Plasma

[tall torrent]

The firerate variation throws me off

[somber axle]

feels very memey LOL

doesn't WS Plasma give you better fire rate

because of the ranged attack speed bonus?

[tall torrent]

Yes but it only lasts 5s and it throws me off

Having a variable firerate plasma

[somber axle]

that's fair

good buff but it's inconsistent

[tall torrent]

I’m used to tracking with that pre-fire delay and if the delay changes I’m not used to it

[tall torrent]

I’m cooking up recon build rn

I’m giving up on plasma

Wouldn’t recommend it to anyone

Too hard to perfect roll

Compared to literally everything else

And there’re just easier builds to play

[somber axle]

Recon is so fun and it's wild how the tiny tweaks pushed them to be so strong

[tall torrent]

I’m considering XIV rn

Exe stance XIV

Trying to replicate that psyker EK m1 build

And XIV can spray at horde with its 3 cleave

[somber axle]

lemme know how it goes once you've finished the build! the XIV is fun for spraying through hordes to mulch ragers hiding in the crowd

[tall torrent]

I noticed XII having notably worse ammo efficiency than XIV

But exe stance build can’t rly afford melee talents and idk how to feel abt that

[somber axle]

Yeah the XII is just too ammo thirsty unless you're building all in on crit chance

[thorny gorge]

thats what i do

i also take focus fire

[somber axle]

It really needs Shock Trooper and crit chance to carry it into passable ammo efficiency

[tall torrent]

I run 5% crit chance perk & talent, plus opening salvo +10% for first 20% of mag

So 27% crit chance for the first 20% mag, 17% after

[somber axle]

No Reciprocity or Headhunter and it drinks ammo fast

[thorny gorge]

headhunter works rather well

even with high crit chance

[somber axle]

Tbh you could probably make Deadshot work on the Recon Mk XIV or Recon Mk VIc

their fire rates are slow enough to make it controllable

it just ends up being a juggling act though

[thorny gorge]

theres some sort of math that 1% of crit is 1% ammo saved due to shock troop

[tall torrent]

I’d use Killzone before I use deadshot

[somber axle]

with Target Down or Duck and Dive it's much easier to play with but that's fair

[tall torrent]

That translates to 42.5% crit rate for first 20% of mag, 29% crit rate for the rest

[somber axle]

it's extra risky watching another resource during fights and if you mistime it you're vulnerable when you need stam the most

[tall torrent]

I also don’t know if I’m a fan of not having ghost to tank shooters on a sharpshooter build

[somber axle]

I saw some vids of ChocoB running their Recon Mk VId/Recon Mk XII with Standard Sapper Shovel because of the special attack push for slapping Poxwalkers away

[thorny gorge]

what should i run on my knife for a XII crit build

[somber axle]

you could do the meme of Stripped Down + Duck and Dive for infinite ranged attack dodge LOL

[thorny gorge]

ft and mercy for blessings?

[somber axle]

but then during firefights it just sorta feels like a repositioning tool

[tall torrent]

Nah, dum dum + deathspitter is the way

[somber axle]

and not free invincibility during fights

for just

fighting

[somber axle]

Uncanny + Executor, Precognition, Mercy Killer (with Serrated Blade) or Flesh Tearer I think are the generally good choices?

I usually run Executor

but I've seen others swear by the other options

[verbal burrow]

Brunt is such a cursed person

[thorny gorge]

dont have points for the talent

i think ima run mercy and flesh tearer and see how i goes

[somber axle]

ignore Mercy Killer then

[thorny gorge]

oh?

[tall torrent]

No, u won’t have points to grab serrated blade

[somber axle]

it really needs the consistent bleed and it's too chaotic relying on it for breakpoints against threats like Crushers when you're banking on the first strike being a crit to proc the bleed off of Flesh Tearer

[tall torrent]

I actually don’t use uncanny on knife anymore

[somber axle]

very feast or famine

[tall torrent]

It somehow just works

[verbal burrow]

Well at least it has 80% in Damage, Stopping Power and Ammo

[last parcel]

riposte goated

[somber axle]

the weird moment when Tanner was right

on like

one thing

LOL

[tall torrent]

He’s still not right

It’s just that

U can sort of cope with not having uncanny

[somber axle]

him recommending plasma for horde clear was very funny

[verbal burrow]

Hey @tall torrent is this one okay?

[tall torrent]

By taking rending nodes on veteran tree

[somber axle]

I did Riposte + Flesh Tearer and had a lot of fun with it tbh

[last parcel]

exploit weakness is not cope no sirree

[tall torrent]

Works ig

[verbal burrow]

Brunt's place is always about making the best out of a bad situation

[last parcel]

https://imgur.com/Eptn6Zv

peak plasma

[verbal burrow]

I don't deny it

[somber axle]

I love him spinning to face the lasgun player and STILL spamming shots LMFAO

[verbal burrow]

Where did that man get those snazzy sights for his lasgun? And oh shit is that a twin-linked Lasgun?

[last parcel]

i was laughing so hard i almost didn't see the bomber

[last parcel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/277

[somber axle]

it's amazing

dude is living his best life firing a Plasma non-stop and MISSING at poxwalkers

[last parcel]

it's the hotshot barrel from https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/290

[verbal burrow]

And we can just use this without getting in trouble, despite it being uh, not steam workshop?

[somber axle]

Yeah it's fine as long as it is client side only

[verbal burrow]

Because I hate the ironsights on the Accatrans with a passion

[last parcel]

yes. modding policy is that client side stuff is ok as long as you're not messing witht he servers or screwing people over

[somber axle]

Fatshark only gets angry if premium cosmetics become server side afaik

[lavish token]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[somber axle]

they also got mad at the "vacuum capsule" spam LOL

[lavish token]

Don’t ask me what I get up to

[last parcel]

only wholesome things

[somber axle]

casually running through a mission and a dude grabs a stim to begin crabwalking at you and spamming vacuum capsule while wiggling his stim and staring at his crotch

idk what mod that even was but I think they went after it

[lavish token]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-25152746

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-warhammer-40k-hop-on-darktide-hop-on-warhammer-darktide-gif-14407641833919176418

[thorny gorge]

guys, what if i burnt down the kitchen

[last parcel]

swap stamina to crit damage and pour grease down the drain

[thorny gorge]

might just do

might swap out superioty complex for the 5% crit node

[verbal burrow]

Senior Plasma Gunner Man, this is the best I could cook up

Adequate to task?

Not sure why it has 80% Thermal too as it said it would have 70% at 500 power, but despite aiming solely for Damage, Stopping Power and Ammo, I'll gladly take it

[somber axle]

I think the perks might need to be changed?

afaik crit chance isn't good for Plasma

and ranged crit hit damage is much weaker than it sounds

[verbal burrow]

I am critting half my shots with Gets Hot tho

[somber axle]

yeah Gets Hot is why the 5% ranged crit chance perk is eh

[last parcel]

gets hot is a blessing, not a perk

[verbal burrow]

I know

Also not relevant

[somber axle]

Elite, Maniac and Unarmoured give breakpoints on Plasma afaik

Elite and Unarmoured sorta cover each other so you don't need both of those together

[verbal burrow]

If I am already getting 50% critical chance from the blessing, why not add another 5% critical chance, and if 55% of your shots are gonna be crits, why not up their damage?

Which breakpoints should I be worrying about then?

[somber axle]

Dreg Gunner is the big one that Elite or Unarmoured would cover afaik

[tall torrent]

Unarmored/elite + flak/maniac

Don’t use those perks lol they’re not good on plasma

[verbal burrow]

Uncertainty about perks is why I asked you, since Sneaky told me to defer to you

[winter creek]

IIRC the damage calc on crit damage ends up being minor compared to the bonus from armor type

[somber axle]

yeah he knows way more about Plasma

I'm only vaguely aware of the perks and breakpoints for that weapon

[verbal burrow]

Yeah that's why I am asking him, but my question is what specific enemies I should be re-tooling my gun for

In the Perk section to be precise

Looking for two nice +25% damage to category buffs

[crimson pebble]

unarmored flak

[verbal burrow]

Unarmoured? As in, the yee-yee ass infected dudes with the rusty knives?

[tall torrent]

Do u want to 1 tap Dreg gunners & Tox bombers

[crimson pebble]

for dreg gunner breakpoint

[verbal burrow]

kinda ye

[tall torrent]

Ok unarmored & flak

[winter creek]

Creatures have multiple different armor zones on their models

[verbal burrow]

Understood

[uncut pebble]

The reason why crit damage is bad is because it doesn't affect the entire damage, it only affects the damage that is being added by the crit.

[crimson pebble]

you do better at this game when you start generalizing your build over specializing imo

[verbal burrow]

It was that way in VT2 too and we were happy

[winter creek]

e.g. maulers have carapace on their head but flak on their torso

[uncut pebble]

Well... stop being happy.

[verbal burrow]

Yeah it's a WH game true

[uncut pebble]

We minmax in this hoe.

[winter creek]

The bruiser hordes likewise, unarmored heads but flak torso

[crimson pebble]

then theirs reapers who have flak unyielding and carapace

[winter creek]

Adding +10% crit damage is what like, 1% more damage overall

[uncut pebble]

If that can be explained in English I'm sure it could be really neat information.

[verbal burrow]

jesus christ that's horrible

[winter creek]

It's in the pinned document

[uncut pebble]

Yeah fatshark calculations fucking suck.

[winter creek]

That's just a snippet

[uncut pebble]

Same issue with weakspot damage.

[somber axle]

If your shots normally do 100 damage on a non-crit, and crit for an extra 50 damage for a total 150 damage, the ranged crit damage only adds an extra +10% from the bonus 50 damage from the crit, not to the total 150. So instead of 150 damage you get ... 155

[verbal burrow]

Well then, here we have the final product

[winter creek]

The only benefit to scaling crit damage I guess is that crits have some innate rending

Lets you plink a little more against armored targets

[verbal burrow]

I was quite enjoying two-shotting a crusher yeah

[winter creek]

Plasma has innately high ADM against carapace so it doesn't need to crit to do good damage

So you're better off scaling damage you get on 100% of your hits vs 50 or 55 or whatever your crit rate is

[tall torrent]

Plasma is 3 shot vs crusher usually but it doesn’t kill crusher groups fast due to slow firerate & needing to vent

[winter creek]

krak grenade out!

[tall torrent]

You’re better off going with melee anti-carapace tools

[winter creek]

Yeah that's why dueling sword goes on all my characters

:3

[tall torrent]

Duelling sword is pretty niche on veteran tho

Horde clear is just abysmal

[winter creek]

That's what my boltgun is for

[civic knot]

Is stability the dump stat for both heavy laspistols?

[tall torrent]

Boltgun for horde clear is

[hasty otter]

what the hell

[winter creek]

The only hordes that I have trouble with are the mobian guys

[hasty otter]

bolt gun for horde clear

thats a good one

[winter creek]

Actually I like the bolt pistol for that

staggers everything

[last parcel]

darktide youtube comments section

[tall torrent]

Have u considered maybe u want a melee for horde clear

[winter creek]

Dueling sword works fine

[tall torrent]

It’s like the worst horde clear in the game lol

[winter creek]

if power sword was less ass to use I'd go back to using that

[hasty otter]

Well its worse on vet

[molten hound]

does the max % on the modifiers change upon empowering?

[tall torrent]

You could also take a Rashad

[molten hound]

for weapon stats

[winter creek]

No

[molten hound]

oh ok

[tall torrent]

Not supposed to
But it’s buggy rn

[winter creek]

How is rashad better for horde clear

[hasty otter]

Light spam

[molten hound]

hm...

[winter creek]

Light

LIGHT SPAM

I can just do that on dueling sword

[tall torrent]

Think power sword but u never have to power up

[verbal burrow]

And now I have the fancy name code

[hasty otter]

You can do that and deal with the specials lmao

[molten hound]

does anyone know which has higher dps for combat knife between precog/uncanny strike vs riposte/uncanny strike

[tall torrent]

For veteran just take riposte

[hasty otter]

I think i see your issue now

[winter creek]

Listen I like my axe but it's somehow worse at horde clear than DS

[hasty otter]

[tall torrent]

You built it wrong then

Brutal momentum + headtaker

[winter creek]

That's literally what's on it

[somber axle]

I know it sounds weird but a properly built Rashad Mk II Combat Axe with Brutal Momentum and Headtaker clears hordes exceptionally well

[orchid hemlock]

dualing sword has ass wave clear

[somber axle]

You need Unarmoured too afaik

then it carves through Bruisers just as well as poxwalkers/groaners

[tall torrent]

Not anymore

[orchid hemlock]

for psyker I use it to suppliment the wave clear of my staff and scream

on zealot I suppliment the wave clear by just having insane crit rates

[tall torrent]

Do u use mods

[winter creek]

Uncanny precog DS4 just tears through stuff

[somber axle]

I thought Unarmoured was so you could reach Bruiser 1 tap without needing to build up a few Headtaker stacks first?

can you do it from 0 Headtaker?

[tall torrent]

Nah DS4 might unironically be the worst horde clear for veteran

[orchid hemlock]

precog is not amazing for wave clear

[tall torrent]

I cope with headtaker stack requirement

[somber axle]

what are you taking instead of Unarmoured?

[orchid hemlock]

precog is also useful for synergizing with dualist on zealot, but I dont see the value on vet

[somber axle]

Carapace for better Crusher breakpoint?

[tall torrent]

Go to meat grinder, use creature spawner and record ur horde clear vs 50 poxwalkers

I’m genuinely curious how you’re getting worse clear time with Rashad than duelling sword

[winter creek]

idk I just load into missions and play through them just fine lol

[tall torrent]

Carapace + elite

[winter creek]

Mixed hordes are the real test

[orchid hemlock]

yeah I struggle way to much on high intensity aurics

with the wave clear

mixed hordes is worse

[winter creek]

The thing about DS4 is that it pierces through like 5 layers deep on a heavy stab

[tall torrent]

No

It literally does not

[winter creek]

Which can reach that bullshit rager behind the poxwalkers

Feels like it does

[narrow bay]

@distant warren I see what your hiding from me that tiger stripe camo me wants lol

[tall torrent]

It has 1.5 cleave

You’re not rly striking anything before & after

[orchid hemlock]

u dont even need to use any mods, just go in the psykanium, push all of the poxwalkers into a ball than spam light attacks on it

then do the same but use a good wave clear weapon like a PS or CS

[tribal pelican]

eh finnaly armors bane is a bitch and a half thank the gods for mobian 21st

really should have been specifically ogryn and monstrosities and made it likem 75 or something

[verbal burrow]

By the way, any feedback on the roll of my Chainsword?

[trim steppe]

Shoulda dumped mobility instead of pen. Otherwise everything is good

I don't know specifically how much that affects ttk tho

[unique orchid]

armorbane? i got that unintentionally, i just love krak grenades

also, which gods?

[tribal pelican]

what mk duleing sword are peeps useing

[lavish token]

5

[pastel wing]

is this a good recon lazgun?

base stats

not perks and blessings

[pseudo fiber]

Ammo isn't a good dump stat for recon sadly

[pastel wing]

i thought soooo

what would be a good dump stat

also what bout this gun

knife*

[pseudo fiber]

mobility

always

[pastel wing]

always mobility

got it

[pastel wing]

what bout this?

[pseudo fiber]

I mean that's like fine if you're not minmaxing but yeah

not great

[pastel wing]

hmmmm

i seeeee

[pseudo fiber]

Mobility and defense

arent good

[pastel wing]

so

always dump mobility if im min maxing?

[pseudo fiber]

yuh

[pastel wing]

otherwise it really doesnt matter too much

[tall torrent]

Depends on weapon but usually yes

[pseudo fiber]

Sometimes there might be an exception for example flamer dumps damage

[pastel wing]

thx

[sullen scarab]

what's a good melee weapon for when you don't touch the right side tree at all

heavy sword?

[pseudo fiber]

Powersword

shovel

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-odenkirk-better-call-saul-pointing-gif-8557710

[tiny summit]

These ones arent exactly ideal unless you're willing for a slow grind towards their max.

[verbal burrow]

How bout this then?

[pseudo fiber]

Lovely but I wouldn't do Savage sweep on the 13 personally

[verbal burrow]

I can change it to a mark 4

But I want to try this one out

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah than that's good

I love the 13 personally so

[crude fiber]

?

[fast heart]

Why it pays so little lol

[celest vine]

fuck and all for pay

[sullen scarab]

Does the heavy sword benefit from Crit and Finesse stuff, like Desperado and Recipricocity, or is it good as a stand alone weapon?

[distant crow]

decent gun?

i really like the combat knife, but it's kinda bad this one

[midnight totem]

worth keeping though

Both screenies are knife

[worldly pulsar]

Not sure for vet, but on my zealot I run crit hsword. Don't sleep on the heavies, they have great cleave

[sullen scarab]

Yeah I've been sweeping at head level and it seems really good

but I was getting pushed back by the 21st armored dudes lol

so I'm like maybe I need to go down the right side tree and pick up those crit and finesse builds to make it shine

maybe on NORMAL matches it'll be better for cutting down chaffee without having to do the right side build

[worldly pulsar]

Yeah, I didn't run it against those dudes, that might make the difference.

I don't think it's necessary against regular hordes, but it does feel better with the crit stuff IMO

[sullen scarab]

yeah lmao

I'll have to try it

I guess its good

in normal matches

without the armored guys

or maybe I need Unarmored damage for heads lol

[umbral scaffold]

I wouldn't go out of my way to build crit and finesse on the heavy sword

[sullen scarab]

oh yeah?

[umbral scaffold]

You could likely get by with base damage and attack speed

[sullen scarab]

yeah the speed seems fine

[umbral scaffold]

Just happens you might get a few crit/finesse nodes getting there anyway

[sullen scarab]

I was just wondering if I was getting pressured hard just because they were the 21st guys lol

[umbral scaffold]

Nah, yeah, the dudes are just chonky

[sullen scarab]

yeah makes sense lmao

[umbral scaffold]

They eat my crit illisi like it's nothing

[sullen scarab]

yeah LOL

ok cool

so its just a good horde clear if you don't invest into weapon specialist

so if I run Focus Target and go middle tree

it'll smash the mob guys

[umbral scaffold]

With shit like the focus target damage buff and those timed damage buffs from the red talents at the bottom, you can squeeze some good damage out it

[sullen scarab]

yeah for sure lol

just wanted something to clear out the trash mobs super fast so I can whip out the bolter for the big guys

[umbral scaffold]

If you have no self-respect, you could just use a combat axe

[sullen scarab]

I'm already tired of rashad

LOL

i've been using it for like 300 hours....i'm so tired...

[trim steppe]

Yeah switch that one to a Mk4 and it's perfect

[trim steppe]

In a similar boat. I rolled 2 perfect Rashad (vet and zealot) and felt obligated to use em endlessly. Now that all perfect rolls are easy I want to go hard on some other melees

[sullen scarab]

yes yes yes LOL

like every match with the rashad I'm like

dancing

carrying

its a dream

but its too good....

[fleet garden]

im running a boss killer, duelling sword+bolter with puncutre

[sullen scarab]

Does Bring it Down apply to the scab captain bosses?

like the guy at the end of the train level

is he MAN

or MONSTER

[trim steppe]

Bring shredders for horde clear so you don't have to be that guy doing bolter mag dump into hordes

[stuck gorge]

They’re a heretic, implying they are on equal footing with us is preposterous

[midnight totem]

it does not

only spawn, beast, and ogryn count as monstrosities

[trim steppe]

And hosts

[midnight totem]

oh and hosts

yeah

[trim steppe]

I like that since the 1 kill maximum, hosts are just landmines you sacrifice unlucky teammates to

"Sucks for that guy. Anyway... I have plasteel to find"

[stuck gorge]

Oh no… they’re in the room over… oh well

[winter creek]

So wtfs the point of melk's shop now

[thorny gorge]

Plasteel

And ordos

Lmao

[stuck gorge]

free resources by dismantling weapons, or getting a decent roll on a weapon you have 0 mastery for

[winter creek]

You get plasteel from dismantling them???

[thorny gorge]

Yee

[winter creek]

[thorny gorge]

Now ya do

And since they oranges you get around 200

You dont get plasteel from curios tho

[winter creek]

wack

plasteel broke

[thorny gorge]

Melk bucks tho

[winter creek]

That's only like 2 things in that overpriced shop

[thorny gorge]

And?

What else ya gonna use em for now

[slow spade]

hey guys look who's in the cool club today 😎

[winter creek]

Maybe in 2 years they'll rework the shop

And I'll be a melk trillionaire

[thorny gorge]

It took a year and a half for locks to be removed

[trim steppe]

Sounds about right, since it's been 2 years and last week was Melks first rework

[winter creek]

I knows my fatshark

[stuck gorge]

fatshark will go on diet, entire game gets reworked

[thorny gorge]

Lmao

I hope not

[winter creek]

[trim steppe]

The point of melk is to get good rolls on weapons you either don't have mastery for or don't want to spend 5k plasteel on

[stuck gorge]

its only good for new players lol

[thorny gorge]

But ive already gotten masteries

A

[trim steppe]

Or, as stated, scrap for some meger plasteel and dia lol

[winter creek]

I only have 300 hours in this game i'm basically new

[stuck gorge]

ill probably use it for my veteran with like 0 masteries

[thorny gorge]

Not really

[stuck gorge]

but otherwies useless

[winter creek]

My masteries say otherwise lol

Only have like 5 fully done

Because I stockpiled weapons and never redeemed the blessings

[trim steppe]

Whoopsies

[thorny gorge]

You can feed weapons to the tech preist for mastery

[winter creek]

I was like "i've got a few decent rolls on these weapons I don't need more"

Yeah but that takes p l a s t e e l

[trim steppe]

I maxed mastery in all weapons after the patch without playing lol, just fed the machine god

[winter creek]

To get them to green at least

[thorny gorge]

Green is most effeient for that reason

[keen elk]

Do you actually have to use the weapon during the mission to get mastery? Or just have it equipped

[trim steppe]

Just bring it

[winter creek]

You just need it with you

[keen elk]

Awesome

[lucid radish]

GOD DAMN

[south garnet]

does weak spot damage from precision strikes apply to only ranged, or melee too

it used to apply to melee too but wondering if it got "fixed"

[trim steppe]

Pretty sure it's both

[south garnet]

Nice, thanks!

[austere mica]

You can do that without FT

[lucid radish]

I love unnecessary means tho

[austere mica]

Its really easy too

[lucid radish]

Chink stacks as well?

[wet ether]

I know this isn’t warhammer related but boom pre-oven chicken pies

[trim steppe]

RASHUNS

[snow siren]

IS 'OUNDS GOOD FOR EATIN

[thorny gorge]

Should i run unyielding or carapace for my recon

Cant decide if crushers or reapers are the biggest threat

[ancient path]

does knife vet not like bleeds anymore?

[idle swallow]

do you mean serrated blade or blessings

[ancient path]

both?

[austere mica]

Bleed blessings have never been very good

[ancient path]

oh

[idle swallow]

serrated blade is mostly an enabler for mercy killer

[austere mica]

Serrated blade + mercy killer is the most consistent second pick to go with Uncanny strike (if you have the points)

Same damage bonus but you always have your condition

It does require routing however

[ancient path]

i have precognition but i dont think i really capitalize on it much being sorta bad

so im looking for something a bit more passive

[austere mica]

I don't take it on my builds because if I'm routing to smokes I take Agile Engagement because I'm going to pick weapon spec

[ancient path]

at least it doesnt feel like i do

[ancient path]

im still playing that smoke build you gave me lol my fingers hurt

[austere mica]

and extra 25% damage on top of my already insane shotgun blast is great

[trim steppe]

I would run neither but if you insist I would say unyeilding for extra monster damage too

[ancient path]

but with that build i wa considering changing out field improvisation for serrated blade + mercy kill

[austere mica]

That's super fine

[ancient path]

and dropping precog

[austere mica]

field improv is really nice to have but ultimately its a luxury that you take if you have an extra point and already take grenade regen

[tame lodge]

Crushers
Reapers will stop shooting because funny recon suppression

[tribal pelican]

any shock mual users here? whats the pros and cons of the weapon?

[ancient path]

i really like it

i use it for when i want crowd control / wave clear

[stuck gorge]

is the special attack single target or a aoe like paul and the one zealot crusher

[ancient path]

i cant really think of any cons because i usually pair my melee weapons weaknesses with my ranged weapons strengths

[austere mica]

Its a single target stun

[ancient path]

special seems single

[tribal pelican]

well im looking for horde clear rn becuse im running bolter sniper

what mk mual for CC

[ancient path]

yap i use shock maul for that

or sword

[ancient path]

it has a great heavy > light combo for crowd control

the block attack is also a swipe

seems to hit like a truck

[lucid radish]

It’s an alternative version of the sapper shovel it seems

[ancient path]

granted im not like a super mechanics player in this game. i just hop on and kill heretics.

[tribal pelican]

speaking of the shovel dont see many of those nowadays hows it rank in thecultural zeitgeist?

[frank basin]

My ogryn gonna chow that thing down in no time.

[austere mica]

It does what it always has

Either total CC or crusher oneshots

(with a side of cc for the latter)

[ancient path]

sheeesh

i need another bolt pistol for sniping

[tame lodge]

Very safe weapon
Always a reliable pick

[austere mica]

Fair warning that shit is not practical

[trim steppe]

How do the shovel mks compare rn

[ancient path]

rn my bolt pistol is lethal prox and surgical because i love the grenade spam

[austere mica]

You need to run an overkill amount of damage and have fully stacked MF to oneshot

[ancient path]

tho i kinda wanted to swap surgical for headshot

[ancient path]

oooh

[trim steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-knife-fight-gif-7305809

[austere mica]

Just realized this build now enjoys an extra point

and isn't entirely overkill

[ancient path]

or using puncture? but that just kinda feels weird outside of more bleed memes from bleed grenade

[austere mica]

I could probably push it further if I had BP mastery

speaking of

away I go

[ancient path]

bye

[west cave]

what is the best melee weapon for horde clearing?

[tame lodge]

Standard and mk7 are popular picks
Mk3 has a weird moveset

[west cave]

non-poxwalkers but like

guardsmen hordes and whatnot

[trim steppe]

Rashad combat axe is the best. But lots of them do. Heavy sword, chainsword, power sword

[west cave]

currently using chainsword

[tame lodge]

Rashad Combat Axe with Brutal Momentum

[west cave]

the second one

[tame lodge]

XIIIg?

[west cave]

the blue o ne

[tame lodge]

What blessings?

[west cave]

I forget the name

[west cave]

extra damage for hitting crowds and extra damage after performing special

ill check

[trim steppe]

Rashad with BM/Headtaker + Unarmored/Flak will kill 4 guardsmen (bruisers) every swing just spamming light attacks. Dump mobility. It feels great but is definitely overtuned lol

[west cave]

good to know

will try that

chainsword is cooler conceptually but I feel like it doesnt perform best

[trim steppe]

Rashad is not flashy but is the meta choice atm

[tame lodge]

Probably Rampage and Bloodletter/thirsty on a XIIIg
Drop blood whatever for Wrath

[west cave]

Savage sweep and rampage on XIIIg

[tame lodge]

Yeah you need to have Wrath or learn combos with the XIIIg
It has a weird time proccing Sweep or Rampage

[west cave]

should I try IV?

[torn moat]

What blessings/perks go on the Agri shotgun?

[tribal pelican]

what is the def between mks again? which one is your go to

[west cave]

also how does bleed work in this game

[tame lodge]

Yeah, both heavies have good cleave
So Rampage and Sweep are pretty good

[west cave]

my first thought was similarly to risk of rain

[torn moat]

Stacking dot. After you hit a certain amount of stacks they start doing drastically higher damage.

[west cave]

so exactly like in risk of rain

good to know

I assume bleed doesnt proc on iron halo

[austere mica]

(same gun) I can probably push it further with an extra 2% elites and t4 deadly accurate

[ocean moat]

the vertical squish

[austere mica]

I want it to fit on one screen

makes it way easier

[ocean moat]

the icons literally clip into each other

[austere mica]

Shush

It can always be worse

[tame lodge]

Aaaaa

[torn moat]

What blessings/perks go on the Agri combat shotgun?

[tame lodge]

Full bore

[distant crow]

im dumb

[torn moat]

Fullbore, not scattershot + Manstopper?

[midnight totem]

fullbore has synergy with their special shot

[tame lodge]

Hold up

Agri the slugger still Agri right?

If then

Full bore because low spread

[midnight totem]

... is it? god I hope it is

[torn moat]

Agri is the slug shotgun.

[midnight totem]

this renaming convention have me derping

[tame lodge]

People are running around with Manstopper because funny cleave

[torn moat]

I'm trying to figure out what blessings to run on the slug shotgun. Fullbore makes sense. But what would go with it then?

Manstopper? No Respite?

[tame lodge]

Infinite cleave on special shot sounds nice

[torn moat]

If it crits

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[torn moat]

Dead perk when it doesn't

[merry oak]

is no respite any good on a hellbore lasgun nowadays?

[tame lodge]

No never

Unless funny bayo build

Fuck falter fuck no respite

[merry oak]

its a funny bayo build

how good is hotshot?

[tame lodge]

Hmmm

Your bayo goes from 3 cleave to 4.5

But it's a bayo

Don't expect good cleave damage

[merry oak]

yea

[faint beacon]

I watched a Zealot speed run 90% of the match and then the moment a Plogryn spawned they died lmao

[merry oak]

lol

classic zelot

[scenic merlin]

what blessings should i go for on chainsword

[tame lodge]

Which one?

[scenic merlin]

not sure which one to use either

[tall torrent]

IV
Rampage + shred

XIIIg
Wrath + shred

[scenic merlin]

ty

[faint beacon]

Also no I didn't revive them, the other remaining Zealot stack did

Look im just saying if you run across the entire map by yourself I expect you to be able to solo till the mission is finished lmao

[last parcel]

and of all things a plogryn

[faint beacon]

Literally lmao

[distant crow]

do u like my revolver ? 😄

[last parcel]

i shit in your milk

[distant crow]

wtf

[orchid hemlock]

FUCK

why would u do that? 😔

[distant crow]

I just like my revolver man

[mortal horizon]

am I crazy for using the mark V dueling sword bc it still feels really strong and is more fun

and the IV is just kinda OP

V still feels op tbh lol

[strange crow]

I love V

[tame lodge]

Well its defenses

[distant crow]

Na play what u like

[strange crow]

It gives the feel of a real Sabre since you’re slashing more than you’re stabbing

[distant crow]

I love the revolver

[mortal horizon]

wait, the V heavy attacks have the same dmg values as the IV

[trim steppe]

At first I really liked the mk5 over the mk4. I eventually flipped but the mk5 is solid

[mortal horizon]

oh no i was looking at wrong 2 models

IV has higher

[trim steppe]

It feels like you're sorta bonking people with it? Idk its satisfying lol

[distant crow]

Combat knife is very satisfying as well

The heavy attack on those gunners feels soo good

[mortal horizon]

the mark II has the dmg of the IV and the same stats

but has the different h2 attack

[tame lodge]

The Mk2 is one of those all arounder

Plus 4 lights instead of 3

The H1 was bugged until Machine patch

[mortal horizon]

is that why it used to do just a lot less dmg? i was surprised just now to see it on par with the IV's heavy

i remember it being non-viable (when it was on psyker only) bc it just did markedly less dmg on its heavy

[tame lodge]

Yup, it had less damage than IV's heavy despite looking the same

Then they fixed it

[patent birch]

is heavy laspistol a w?

[orchid hemlock]

THE REDDIT ACTUALLY POSTED SOMETHING BASED???

[wind ravine]

Finally got on overwatch done. That train mission makes it easy

[tame lodge]

The accatran one is

[scenic merlin]

what combat shotgun variant do you guys like

[verbal burrow]

Rolled another one :3

Thoughts?

[rigid pilot]

Should dump collat instead

Unless recon collate affects damage

[midnight mortar]

Collateral only affects stagger according to the inspect window.

[trim steppe]

It sure doesn't

[serene bough]

why am i seeing this hippo everywhere

[woeful ibex]

its good

Which Mark?

*Which Weapon Mark is your prefer gun?

[full nacelle]

Anyone got a favorite wacky, goofy, silly shovel-based melee build? I'm getting rid of my power sword build cause I find it clunky as hell to play

[tribal pelican]

I am also interested in knowing which shovel is best for cc

[austere mica]

Standard

[tribal pelican]

which issss what mk?

[austere mica]

I think it’s just called standard or something

[tribal pelican]

ah

[full nacelle]

why standard issue btw? the special attack?

[austere mica]

The heavies

[full nacelle]

I always have used the mk7

[austere mica]

The heavy attacks are really fast perfect horizontals with good stagger

I think it can stagger lock ragers actually

[serene bough]

if you use the standard i recommend a ranged weapon that can puncture armor

[last parcel]

mk1 is standard issue

[tribal pelican]

my bolter sniper build kills elites and ogryn just by looking at them its just the damn tidal waves of flesh that get me in auric mal

[tall torrent]

Combat axe

[austere mica]

If it’s human soup get a dclaw

[umbral scaffold]

Bolter sniper? How does that work

[austere mica]

Shitty adm’s for everything but it can take savage sweep rampage and the mk4 has a fun moveset

[tall torrent]

There aren’t many things in this game that can handle a 45% crit chance Rashad to the face

[austere mica]

Also the parry is just

Amazing

[tribal pelican]

was just about to ask since non of them are called standard these days

[austere mica]

Having a dclaw gives you the right and honor of aggroing every daemonhost you see

And then blending it

[tribal pelican]

Surgical and glory hunter on the bolter not entirely my build somebody in here who I do not remember becuse brain smooth drew this up for me after i complained about loving the feel of the bolter but not being able to make it work

used this to get auric storm surviver

[tall torrent]

I got a Boltgun build for u

[austere mica]

I wouldn’t invest so heavily in top tree

[last parcel]

[last parcel]

wednesday october 2nd

[tribal pelican]

your prob better at the game then me I need all the toughness regen i can get lol

[tall torrent]

It’s crazy to think that I can actually fit a Rashad into a Boltgun build

[austere mica]

Iron will and confirmed kill is already insane

You are borderline immune to most attacks above 75% toughness

[umbral scaffold]

Whaaaat about a best build for shovel melee with Helbore Lasgun? A Krieg build

[austere mica]

You start to explode instantly once you pass that but confirmed kill is great instant returns

[tribal pelican]

in like damnation and lower true but with this setup even in auric meal I basicly become imortal aslong as there are tagable baddies in the room lets me just stand still and compleatly clear the room of non trash

[austere mica]

I am a knife addict and run weapon spec so I am the projectile to all of the taggable stuff

[umbral scaffold]

Could you share weapons and curios too?

[austere mica]

Double barrel opens conveniently cone shaped holes in whatever i point it at so point a to point b is a matter of if I can kill 3 things before getting there

[tall torrent]

U can make one but ur gonna be lacking in at least one area in terms of dps

[tribal pelican]

melee weapon is choice I useds chain sword becuse its what I know but aslong as you can stay upright and deal with a semi competent amount of trash your good. same for curious really im probably way to defensive here but untill today I was trying for auric survivor so now ill prob expirement more

[umbral scaffold]

Thank you kind mister

[shut talon]

is there a preference to which power sword to use?

[tall torrent]

U can try 2 health + 1 toughness on curios

[tall torrent]

VI

[wind ravine]

Its a goverment psyop

[umbral scaffold]

Well i was hoping to be focused on melee dps for hordes and using helbore charge shot to do damage on elites at distance, and using bayonet in times of need against elites that gets too close

[full nacelle]

mk3 is easier to use, mk7 is stronger

push attack can oneshot crushers and better light spam for horde clear

[shut talon]

oh that's interesting

[full nacelle]

most folks say play the mk7 for a few matches and you'll be golden

just got to get used to the push attack combo honestly

[tribal pelican]

can you detail this combo iv only ever used mk4

[shut talon]

oooh the push attack stab is near instant

I'll play around with it while grinding some penances

[rose gale]

any suggestion on where to put the last 3 points ?

was thinking maybe voley adept and cover fire but not sure

[tribal pelican]

Did you mean mk6?

or do I not know how to read roman numerals becuse I am not seeing a VII

[last parcel]

yes

[rose gale]

yeah it's 6 not 7

[tribal pelican]

what is this strike patter that includes a block attack becuse I struggle massivly with the PS and would like to make it work for me

[serene bough]

how horrifying

i hate hippos theyre aggressive and dangerous

[rose gale]

from what i know usually zoos teach baby hippos from a young age not to bite, but half the images i've seen of moo deng is her play biting someone

[full nacelle]

oh yes that one

[serene bough]

its cute now but wait til it chomps you in half like an ork

[rose gale]

is rending strikes any good ?

[serene bough]

on some weapons like recon it is

most weapons i tend to avoid it though

[rose gale]

oh, i tought it was more for melee tbh

[full nacelle]

Longshot is actually quite bad so I would recommend dropping that or going for volley adept

[austere mica]

Fast guns like mk5 IAG and the recons get good usage

[full nacelle]

what weapons are you using?

[austere mica]

Mostly cause their Cara adm’s suck and combining it with the brittleness on ranged let’s you eat crushers

[rose gale]

revolver mostly but i do wanna give bolters a try on this

[full nacelle]

In that cause I would highly recommend picking up volley adept if you want to keep your revolver out most of the time and picking up deadshot to go with it

[serene bough]

im an advocate for taking field improv

[full nacelle]

field improv is always a nice one to pick up ☝️

but yeah on a revolver build that isn't just a weapons specialist melee build

you want adept volley and deadshot

[split grove]

Does veteran have a thammer equivalent

[rose gale]

ok, i was already heavly leaning adept voley so ill pick it with deadshot

[full nacelle]

power sword

yeah deadshot lets you get those juicy crusher oneshots with surgical

it's real noice

[split grove]

Beside pow sword what other wep can tap the heavies and adequetely deal horde

[full nacelle]

and with Target Down! you'll have infinite stamina to special snipe with

[full nacelle]

Rashad is the best Vet melee weapon

[split grove]

Its the best zealot one too

[full nacelle]

yeee love it

❤️

[rose gale]

still got a point left, i guess ill try field improv

[full nacelle]

the duelling sword is very good too but it doesn't have the best horde clear

[split grove]

Yeah i want something that can deal with both

But not be pow

Cos i dont like always special

[full nacelle]

I feel that, I'm turning my power sword build into something else right now

feels so clunky to constantly charge

[austere mica]

Power sword is so eepy

I run dclaw and knife for most of my vet builds

[rose gale]

better now ?

[austere mica]

And chainsword for a few

[austere mica]

8 stacks tag is basically useless outside of bosses

[full nacelle]

Looks good! You're going to SUCK when you're overwhelmed though so I highly recommend the Rashad for easy horde clear

[split grove]

Does knife here also require crit

From the right side

[austere mica]

To do what

[split grove]

And weapon spec

[rose gale]

i started running claw and im quite liking it, altough ima big shovel fan

[restive rock]

How do I even survive certain objectives as a ranged vet?

I feel like my ranged vet is really weak in melee. For objectives where you are surrounded by even pox walkers, there is no wall to back up against and no area to stay safe from enemies

What am I meant to do?

[rose gale]

wich one is that ? the dueling sword ?

[split grove]

Have a safe weapon

Melee

At higher diff melee is the main thing

[full nacelle]

You are meant to make your build well-rounded enough that you have an option when you're overwhelmed in melee range

[tall torrent]

Yes
Knife is a very high investment melee

[split grove]

I guess same as zealot

Uncanny riposte or precog

With crits somewhere in talents

[tall torrent]

Riposte + flesh tearer/uncanny imo

I don’t use uncanny strike anymore

[austere mica]

Get something that offsets your guns weakness and lay in, melee is about control

[split grove]

Oh why not

[full nacelle]

On my extremely range-focused builds I run the Rashad because it's easily the vets strongest melee weapon. Doesn't take any point investment to be good at horde clear but becomes godlike when you do invest points into it too.

Would highly recommend picking one up

[tall torrent]

Learn melee
Maybe pick up a strong horde clear melee

[restive rock]

What’s the Tasha’s again?

[split grove]

Hideous laughter

Combat axe

[restive rock]

LMAO

thanks autocorrect

I’m pretty good in melee but I’ve been using the cadian sword for the build which doesn’t seem to be the best

[split grove]

Cadian sword

[austere mica]

Cadian sword

[split grove]

Catachan devilclaw?

[austere mica]

What

[last parcel]

chainsword i think

[austere mica]

Cadians have a lot of swords which one

[restive rock]

The cadia mk IV

[austere mica]

Chainsword

[split grove]

Which ones that

[austere mica]

Cool

[tall torrent]

What does ur talent tree look like

[split grove]

Ok

[full nacelle]

Yeah if you show us your talent tree and what you want to focus on in the build we can try to help

[restive rock]

Not at home rn sadly
It’s kinda just a ranged build for a standard lasgun

[rose gale]

using cadian weapons is scary, what if they blow up like the planet

[restive rock]

I can do it later (11 hours lol)

[shut talon]

are Flak + Maniac good perks for plasma gun

[austere mica]

Stuff from catachan is better

[restive rock]

So true
It’s a cadian themed build

[tall torrent]

Unarmored/elite + flak/maniac

[austere mica]

I just realized I have a strong preference for their stuff

[restive rock]

Average jungle dweller

[rose gale]

ngl, one of the most fun play styles is regular las imo

[west cave]

cadia didnt blow up bcs of the fortress
it blew up cuz every single lasgun fired at it all at once

[restive rock]

I agree, ranged vet used to be my absolute least favourite build in the game of all classes

But the lasgun is so fun. It’s really nice to have a ranged weapon that does so much

[shut talon]

unarmored = unyielding?

[restive rock]

It’s also cool
Get dropped into a hive city with a crappy lasgun and mess stuff up

[tall torrent]

No

[full nacelle]

Laspistol is my baby

[serene bough]

Unyielding are ogryns and bosses, sans crushers

[full nacelle]

haven't been able to get into any of the other lasguns tbh

[rose gale]

it is very versatile, i do wanna try other variants of it now that i can freely switch it around, was always using my mark 12, now mark 9

[full nacelle]

Laspistol is just too damn good. Amazing crits, massive ammo pool, super mobile, fastest reload.

[tall torrent]

IX infantry lasgun is unfortunately pretty bad

[rose gale]

i like it

[shut talon]

gotcha

[full nacelle]

If you can keep up stamina for deadshot laspistol is a sniping machine

works great with exe stance

[serene bough]

Mk4 ilas (or whatever it's called now) has always been my favorite since the buff it recieved

Very reliable

[full nacelle]

Does anyone have a mk3 vigilant autogun build or know what they specialize in?

I think they're good on a crit build but I'm not sure

it's the only weapon class I haven't used in a build

[verbal burrow]

I like to be considerate towards the teammates when it comes to ammo so I use the max damage per shot variant

[restive rock]

I just like having a weapon that can deal with everything, from hordes to elites and armour

I mean it’s a lasgun, it does every job at a fairly average level
But it still gets them all done

[woeful ibex]

yeah

Lasgun is best gun

[austere mica]

But can it make a cone of enemies cease to exist

Instantaneously

[rose gale]

sure, i close my eyes and the enemies cease to exist

[earnest bone]

they are still there

all 3 of them

waiting for you to bypass the barrels

[full nacelle]

anyone know what the best blessings for the Vraks 3 headhunter is?

[restive rock]

I just feel like an actual guard when I’m holding off hordes with a lasgun

[bright cliff]

isnt the vraks 3 called the columnus 3 now

if its the 3 round burst one you want deadly accurate and headhunter

[restive rock]

Like the double barrel for example is cool, but who even am I at that point?
I’m a guard. I get a lasgun

[bright cliff]

sorry, the other two want deadly accurate and surgical

anyway chat now you have to answer my question

wtf do I do with the turtolsky sword

[blissful cliff]

That’s the heavy sword right?

[bright cliff]

yeah

[austere mica]

You’re an inquisitorial acolyte

[blissful cliff]

I, genuinely couldn’t tell you. That weapon feels weird as hell to use. I saw someone run it with flak and unyielding and take rampage and headtaker on it

[austere mica]

Go nuts

[austere mica]

Headtaker Deathblow, then Flak and your choice of maniac, unyielding, or elite

Be warned it’s carapace damage is shit

[bright cliff]

I can see that

I wanted my friend to pick my next loadout to master

and he gave me shredder pistol and turtolsky sword

so

[austere mica]

That

[blissful cliff]

LOL

[austere mica]

Isn’t good

Shredder is like

[last parcel]

typically people run headhunter and deadly accurate

[austere mica]

The worst weapon in the game

[blissful cliff]

OH fuck that’s so bad lmao

[bright cliff]

it's a little disappointing that the headtaker brutal momentum combo that is from every other weapon is still the correct choice here

I like variety but whatever

anyway what do I do with the shredder pistol?

[austere mica]

It’s bromentum and a power blessing

Tf else you running

[blissful cliff]

Weapon specialist build and good fucking luck lmao

[bright cliff]

true

this is what we've got so far

[austere mica]

Honestly no idea because nobody bothers to build it

I highly recommend against it

[bright cliff]

well I'm a completionist

[blissful cliff]

I would say, make a grenadier build

[bright cliff]

and I already mastered all the good weapons

[austere mica]

You are going to be entirely dependent on kraks to kill any carapace

[bright cliff]

yep

[restive rock]

Lameeee

[austere mica]

It’s cooler

[bright cliff]

and hopefully my team

"look at this bitch shredder pistol and turtolsky sword wtf is she doin"

[austere mica]

You have more freedom than most people will ever see, spice up that armory locker

[restive rock]

No

[austere mica]

What’s the point of being above the law and in a private military of you aren’t going to decorate your quarters with all sorts of fun stuff

[restive rock]

Give me a lasgun

All I ever needed

And all I’ll ever need

[blissful cliff]

But no, genuinely make a grenadier build. Take all the grenade talents, run kraks and uh

[restive rock]

For Cadia, etc etc

[blissful cliff]

The Emperor Protects.

[austere mica]

Live 20 fucking ragers reaction

[restive rock]

Ragers die the hardest to my lasgun build

[austere mica]

But like

20

In melee

Is not a gun problem

[restive rock]

‘Oh no he’s angry what should I do?!’
5 .50 cal lasers to the head:

[austere mica]

I do legitimately think you should branch out to other stuff

[blissful cliff]

Lmao what’s that one mission where you break the green vials or whatever? The one with the green koolaid? Cause at the end something like 20-30 ragers spawn

It’s outrageous

[austere mica]

You have a giant skill tree and like 20 other guns for a reason

[restive rock]

I use other stuff yeah but rn lasgun vet is what I have the most fun with

I’ve been playing since before skill trees lol, I’ve only started using lasgun relatively recently

[tall torrent]

A veteran fights with what’s available

[dusk idol]

do you

[uncut leaf]

whts a good build for Raksha + bolter?

[tall torrent]

What’s raksha

[austere mica]

Rashad spelled poorly

[shut talon]

thank you for this

[uncut leaf]

^🤡

[restive rock]

Yeah

[dusk idol]

rashad is strong enough to work without talents imo, so i would just go reload speed into left/middle tree for range damage and grenades

[uncut leaf]

ty

[blissful cliff]

I’m fucking ass with the rashad, but maybe that’s because i pair with a plasma and feel clunky and slow

And every game i have played with it, i rubber band like crazy

Without fail

It’s like the Emperor doesn’t want me using the rashad

[dusk idol]

rashad is basically an elite killer melee, you dont really need bolter or plasma with it

but you can make it work

just bromentum and headtaker or whatever else as your strength blessing

[frank ether]

you dont need anything with rashad

spam m1

win game

[thick rose]

voc or heresy

[blissful cliff]

I’ll just stick to my little kitchen knife

[rose gale]

executioner's stance is way more fun tough

[dusk idol]

bring me back go the old days of standing in front of 40 gunners with exec stance and taking no dmg

[blissful cliff]

Oh this is exactly what i run lmao, it’s really just a skill issue on my part

[restive rock]

I rarely use the heavy sword honestly

Never got used to using it

I should try it again

I think there’s a few weapons I tried when new and couldn’t use them very well, and I’ve needed up not using them at all

Like devil’s claw

[thorny gorge]

Fleshtear+lacerate giga brain cook

[earnest bone]

reddit moment

[thorny gorge]

Whos he tryna kiss

[earnest bone]

dont play gachas

[thorny gorge]

[earnest bone]

its worse casinos than old DT

[thorny gorge]

Id rather go to real casino before i gamble with anime girls

[deft crystal]

Im trying to ffarm auric missions but then I see a vet just one shot everything with an axxe and melt ranged enemiies wtf are people usingg

[frank ether]

they removed hadron slot machine

[thorny gorge]

Now its quartermaster gambling

[earnest bone]

its like a childs play

buying a 100-yen gacha on the street

you buy 5-6

and get the toy you want

ez

[thorny gorge]

Why are they calle gacha

Wtf does gacha mean

[earnest bone]

idk, seems like a japanese term

for these

random lootboxes

since 1990s

[thorny gorge]

Ah

[red robin]

I always thought it was like

[earnest bone]

and everyone keep calling

[red robin]

“Got ya” sucker

[earnest bone]

it like that

[thorny gorge]

Gotcha?