veteran-class

[plucky lichen]

i aint even realise there was a pics/vids channel

[zenith helm]

guys what are the best blessings for the shock maul?

[true jackal]

scrusher, + somthing, oppertunist or thrust prolly

[plucky lichen]

Personally I run Lighting Reflexes / Thrust

I hate ragers

[zenith helm]

ok ty

[somber axle]

Skullcrusher + Lightning Reflexes or Skullcrusher + High Voltage I think?

[thorny gorge]

thoughts?

[hallow drift]

Is demo stockpile a necessity?

[thorny gorge]

yee

if its the free nade every 60 secs

it frees up the nade box for other classes

[hallow drift]

Ye, saw some people drop it so I was wondering how useful it came

[thorny gorge]

i keep so i can int with my nades lmao

[last parcel]

basically. if it's too expensive (going exe or infil) then demo team is an ok replacement for aurics
not having some form of nade regen is very sussy

[hallow drift]

Why can’t everything be as easy to build as zealot

[rose gale]

personally i find vet easy to build but got no clue how to build zealot lol

[hallow drift]

I feel like I need more points for Vet

Too many things where I’m like “ooh that’s nice”

[somber axle]

That's normal LOL

There are so many amazing talents within reach

[hallow drift]

Zealot I feel content. If I had more points it would be nice, but strangely enough I feel like I have everything I could want

[somber axle]

You sorta have to prioritize the essentials per build and then alternate whatever talent point change left over for funsies

Most important things to have are Confirmed Kill or Out for Blood, Iron Will, Precision Strikes, Demo Team or Demo Stockpile

Then grab others based on breakpoints like Superiority Complex

[sleek garden]

Yeah honestly precision strikes and kill confirmed always feel like the biggest you have to take

And they aren't hard to grab

I suppose if you can put out a lot of headshots exhilarating takedown works

I take both

I use lasguns

It's also excellent with the lawbringer

Sorry

Zarona

Why'd they take away the cool name

[somber axle]

Tinfoil hat theory says Games Workshop noticed the naming conventions and prodded them angrily to adjust

Clown theory is they noticed a certain guide and changed names as a funny joke

[sleek garden]

It actually lore breaks a few weapon descriptions

Like the vraks

They're no longer from vraks

Wherever that may be

They forgot to update the descriptions

Games workshop must be a bunch of losers to hear the name Lawbringer Shotgun and go "this sucks"

[somber axle]

Someone was here earlier angrily saying that Vraks shouldn't even be a name used because they turned traitor and Kreig has been warring against them for years or something. And some stuff about them originally being a shrine world so they're not in the business of production but idk lore so

[sleek garden]

Could just be old autoguns

If that's really the case

[somber axle]

I have no idea what's going on so I'm not sure how feasible it is to have even a single guns manufacturer on a shrine world. Idk the rules on those things but a whole world historically never producing guns sounds odd given the setting

[sleek garden]

I went on the wiki to check and it is called a bastion and armory world

So maybe they were wrong

[somber axle]

Maybe the other angry guy was confused or something

[thorny gorge]

vraks was a supply world

[somber axle]

Armoury World sounds fitting for something like that

[thorny gorge]

so it checks for the auto gun

but the shrine world thing is wierd

[sleek garden]

Apparently not only did it end up under control by traitors but literally everyone on the planet died and they cut it off from the rest of the galaxy

[last parcel]

old guns checks out

[sleek garden]

so it's just an empty grave now

[jaunty sphinx]

Vraks is funny

Just a hellish conflict

[sleek garden]

You know a planet that is nothing but basically desert is a perfect reason to have high precision sniper type autoguns manufactured there

Why did they change the name

My original theory was just that headhunter is also a blessing

But lawbringer isn't

Some named were just swapped between the same family for no reason

[last parcel]

renames ciag
makes another ciag

[sleek garden]

I don't know about any of the worlds they come from

I thought zarona was a person

For a long time

[rose gale]

some felt a bit random, like the kantreal las being renamed from mk XII to mk IX

[last parcel]

zola, zarona, sounds pretty persony

[rose gale]

idk maybe there is some obscure lore reason

[tribal pelican]

what program do yall use to take short clips of play to share

[sleek garden]

Windows key+g

[rose gale]

shadowplay

[hexed imp]

So what's good blessings for the double barrel

[tribal pelican]

oH!

ty

[sleek garden]

If you use other programs shut off game bar

No need to record your screen twice

I think steam is gonna start doing it too

[tribal pelican]

yee

im at the point where i feel like i need to record myself using powersword against hordes in the meat grinder so sombody can tell me what im doing wrong like I cannot fight more then 15 groaners at a time without going down

[earnest bone]

50% res speed is funny
(it says rescued, but actually seems to be for downed)

100% resses

[somber axle]

Manstopper and Both Barrels or Run n Gun

[hexed imp]

Thank you fellow vet!

[last parcel]

you need to push and dodge to make space for powering up the sword
you also should just be dodging in general but this is just for extra emphasis

[sleek garden]

Dodges on the power sword are also pretty weak

And you move a bit slow with it

[thick needle]

Running the Bistol on a Weapon Specialist build
What perks/blessings should I grab for it

[somber axle]

Lethal Proximity + Run n Gun or Lethal Proximity + Puncture for the Grenadier build

Puncture's bleed helps push you over to certain breakpoints consistently but I forgor which ones

Run n Gun is also very good though

[tough flower]

Stationary bolt pistol

[last parcel]

dreg gunner and flamer in combination with elite maniac if you skipped some dmg boosts (mostly ft iirc)
and rager double bodyshot

[somber axle]

You could do Surgical + Deadly Accurate ok now that the weird sway has mostly been corrected but tbh outside of funny memes pushing 1 tap breakpoints on Crushers you don't really need Surgical + Deadly Accurate (but wow it was really satisfying doing that)

[somber axle]

Thanks!

[last parcel]

silliness is the best

[thick needle]

Ye so far my big issue is dealing with carapace because my melee is a Devilclaw sword

[somber axle]

I vaguely remember that before Unlocked and Loaded there was a weird niche 1 tap breakpoint with Crushers that required Rending Strikes because of the ADM but iirc ADM vs Carapace was buffed for Bistol/Boltgun so it's probably not even necessary anymore

I just haven't touched it in a clown science session since

[umbral scaffold]

in the event of encountering carapace armor using deadclaw, :

1. lay youir weapon down
2. lay on the floor
3. embrace your fate

[thick needle]

Idk, It's taken me up to 3 shots just to kill a Scab gunner

[hollow bane]

whats the dump stat for plasma gun?

[thick needle]

Maulers and Crushers just seem to eat Bistol shots without giving a fuck

[last parcel]

it should be a oneshot headshot with just superiority complex

oh and precision strikes but i assume every build has that

[tribal pelican]

does dueling sword have a movment tech like the knife does I swear this other vet was running at aprox 700mph

woops not meant to be a reply

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/win-winning-respect-betting-gambling-gif-20883638

[tall torrent]

No

[tall torrent]

None

[noble plover]

Is it just me, or are the male Professional Veteran and female Judge Zealot flirting like crazy?

[umbral scaffold]

Hot

[serene bough]

i know male judge has some hots for fem professional

[fossil basalt]

Female Loner psyker and Male Fanatic go at it real often

[tame lodge]

Fem Savant x Fem Agitator

[gloomy tide]

is mobility still dump stat for Power Sword?

[true jackal]

mobi or cleave targets I believe, since you generally run brutal momentum

[faint beacon]

Personally im more of a Fem Savant x Male Loose Cannon type of guy but I get what you're saying

[umbral scaffold]

hear me out male loose canon x cadian

[serene bough]

i think LC would chew glass sooner than consider a cadian

[torn gorge]

[smoky sequoia]

What in the fucking God-Emperor is this conversation

[atomic zephyr]

LC does express sympathy

[smoky sequoia]

I just got here

[atomic zephyr]

I remember this distinctly

[smoky sequoia]

Like I just clicked this chat

[atomic zephyr]

You would be right about LC x Professional though

[rose gale]

fem loose cannon x fem professional

[smoky sequoia]

Fuck it you're all heretics Im getting a commisar

[atomic zephyr]

LC calls prof a filthy bootlicker

[atomic zephyr]

wdym this is peak army soldier discussion

[umbral scaffold]

nope lol ? me when i dont know warhammer lore beyond reddit memes and post lol

how do you think they make so much population ?

😭 they fuck

[faint beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060032630927671357/1278555199505698896/AAEA01BF-A7B0-4C93-85A8-E1927D00392B.gif

[smoky sequoia]

No they get delivered in transport ships

[rose gale]

It boosts morale

[smoky sequoia]

Laughs in Kriegsman

Sex is cringe

Killing heretics boosts moral not GOONING

[rose gale]

Yuri and yaoi keep the platoon cohesion for extra efficiency

[smoky sequoia]

FOR THE EMPEROR

[umbral scaffold]

me when im the krieg fan

[rose gale]

With how many kriegers there are ain't no way they don't fuck 24/7

[smoky sequoia]

Nah

[faint beacon]

See im a Steel legionnaire im not a vat tube baby, im a fucking Hiveganger there's a difference

[smoky sequoia]

Test tube babies

Aint no way they fuckin that much

[umbral scaffold]

on the field maybe but afaik they got cloning facilities on krieg

[smoky sequoia]

Shits like a latex session fr

[rose gale]

Cloning is just an euphemism

[atomic zephyr]

i remember a conversation between fem professional and fem fanatic
professional comments that another zealot is eyeing her up, fanatic threatens to hurt the unnamed zealot, fem professional says “now I didn’t say I didn’t like it”

[smoky sequoia]

$20 says the gas masks do NOT come off either

[rose gale]

Need need need

[umbral scaffold]

🤤 the goop vat

[atomic zephyr]

it makes the personalities feel like real characters imo

[smoky sequoia]

Real talk no one fucking has time in the Morningstar to goon

[atomic zephyr]

they definitely do

[umbral scaffold]

melk goons all the time

[smoky sequoia]

Shit I wouldn't

[umbral scaffold]

he perma goons

[rose gale]

Half of them spend all day talking in vox

[smoky sequoia]

I'd be geeking for Lho's and probably die in the first 10 seconds of my first mission

Wait fuck I just realized my server profile is too cringe brb

[rose gale]

Also on a serious note, why are they so afreid of a commisair when they working for an inquisitor and in a rogue trader ship ? That commisar has no authority in this scenario

[faint beacon]

well its a commissar under command of a noble

which puts them borderline on par with Rannick's Authority

Thing is though they'll probably have to make it obvious through Dialouge Rannick holds more authority

[rose gale]

i don't think that is enough to put it on par with a rogue trader or an inquisitor

[faint beacon]

Fucking Rogue trader literally no one is over them

lmao

brahms just owes Grendyl a huge favor hence why she's doing this

[torn gorge]

[rose gale]

i think inquisitor can hold more power over rogue traders in case of some serious heresy, altough what counts as heresy for a normal person and for a rogue trader are very different

[pearl sapphire]

Best stats for knife?

[rose gale]

probably dump mobility

[pseudo fiber]

Everything else is good dump mobility

[rose gale]

mobility is usually the go to dump stat for any weapon that has it tbh

[pearl sapphire]

But I kinda like moving fast, helps on missions like damnation orthos

I’ll try it

[torn gorge]

being fast comes from the speed multiplier on the weapon itself

the range band is not a make or break

[rose gale]

dumping mobility also means having it at 60 instead of 80 so you still have a decent amount

[pearl sapphire]

Is the sprint speed at all affected by it?

Because that’s my main thing

[smoky sequoia]

I return

[faint beacon]

Dump mobiltiy unless you're running uncanny

in which dump penetration

[last parcel]

there's a difference of 0.09 from 60 to 80

[pearl sapphire]

Gotcha, ok

[idle swallow]

Knife/Double barrel WS is my new love rn

[pearl sapphire]

Got a semi good one, kinda sucks that it’s a 280 tho

I don’t wanna waste the plasteel

[smoky sequoia]

Am I the only one who does a "see big number use big gun" mentality?

I dont do builds I just get shit that works

[pearl sapphire]

I like being a sneaky fucker, so..

[visual remnant]

lamenter simp where's all ur primaris reinforcements,,

[smoky sequoia]

DO NOT

[pearl sapphire]

They’re fucking dead

[smoky sequoia]

MENTION

THE FUCKING

PRIMARIS

[smoky sequoia]

Real talk my Veteran build is basically a schizo medic with infinite kraks

I am quite the speedy boi if you go down

[rose gale]

i love crack

i mean krak

[smoky sequoia]

No no you mean crack

Do it

[pearl sapphire]

I am indeed a krakhead

(Let’s ignore the fact that my ekbawks name is CrackSparrow)

[rose gale]

only drug i do is the big E

[idle swallow]

E-crack

[smoky sequoia]

Kraks are the only legit grenade

I cannot see myself using any other nor do I find them viable enough

[pearl sapphire]

Frags are mid, kraks are beautiful, smokes are smokes

[rose gale]

regular nades can be decent for cc

[smoky sequoia]

You telling me I can slap the nipples off of a Bulwark with 1 grenade, and possibly get AOE?

Sign me tf up

[pearl sapphire]

Chaos space marine boss when

[smoky sequoia]

No tf what

4 of the Emp's most autistic rejects cant fight a marine

Not even a heavily weekened one

[pearl sapphire]

Has to be unnamed

[rose gale]

yes we can

a few plasma shot can def down a marine

[smoky sequoia]

Dude would have to be on life support

[pseudo fiber]

Shredder frags are absurdly strong.

I would not describe them as mid by any means.

[smoky sequoia]

Like "Get in the fucking Dreadnaught" levels of life support

[smoky sequoia]

Okay you got me there

[rose gale]

hell, im pretty sure there are canon instances of marines being killed by a single dude with a las and good aim

[smoky sequoia]

Yeah Im almost positive a marine with no helmet getting a lasgun to the face isn't exactly gucci

[tawny badger]

sounds like a build to me

[pseudo fiber]

Kraks are good
But I find that they struggle in current meta because its heavily an anti armour meta.

Smokes are funny.

[torn gorge]

bring a caxe

[sleek garden]

smokes do work

[torn gorge]

or a revolver

[smoky sequoia]

See the whole thing about Kraks though is you have so many anti-armor fellas walking up

[torn gorge]

if armour is really your problem

[rose gale]

also plague marines don't really have the best of armor

[smoky sequoia]

Especially on harder missions

Shoutout to the time I ran ahead, opened a door and 4 Crushers ran a train on me

[tawny badger]

the other (good) thing about kraks is that there's so many armor fellas in harder missiosn that kraks can do multikills because they tend to bunch up

[sleek garden]

you mean armored fellas

[tawny badger]

yeah that

[sleek garden]

anti armor would be your teammates

[smoky sequoia]

🤓

[sleek garden]

i guarantee you all your teammates will be anti armor in some way tho

[sleek garden]

i look like this in real life

[smoky sequoia]

No disrespect the opportunity was there I had to do it

[idle swallow]

I prefer melee or ranged anti armor due to consistency and shredders as CC backup

[pseudo fiber]

All 4 classes could reasonably kill a plague marine with their current equipment selection.

Plasma gun
T hammer
Being a psyker
Being an Ogryn.

The issue is that a fight between the rejects would also have people using the rusty shiv.

And like a Las pistol

So a plague marine fight would be fun... just forgo lore if we're doing it.

Or do it the way I consider all darktide mission difficulties above sedation. Stories Rejects tell eachother that simply aren't true.

[rose gale]

im a big fan of revolver and just basic infantry las and autogun

[sleek garden]

i like the default lasgun

im currently messing around with all the guns for mastery and im quite liking a precision laspistol build

[smoky sequoia]

So basically Sedation and lower is legit ops and anything higher is shittalk?

[rose gale]

if lore was the problem we couldn't kill a plague ogry, nurgle beast, chaos spawn or demonhost either reallistically

[sleek garden]

thats ridiculous because theres like 12 people per horde

[pseudo fiber]

I mean there's no like confirmation of this but I don't think your average squad is killing 3 BoN, daemon hosts and thousands of enemies.

But then again

[tawny badger]

we are not the average squad

[pseudo fiber]

We may be that good

[smoky sequoia]

Listen

[tawny badger]

we are the wh40k: darktide

[smoky sequoia]

Demonhosts FEAR ME

I pull up

Lift that loincloth

[tawny badger]

you get knocked off a ledge

[smoky sequoia]

And shove a krak so far up that fucker that it just dies instantly

As you can tell I heavily endorse Kraks

[tawny badger]

kark grenade

[sleek garden]

i want to make a rifleman build with smokes but its on the wrong side of the skill tree

i am going to lose out on nade regen or marksmans focus

[smoky sequoia]

Fuck the skill tree do it

Make sacrifices

[tawny badger]

nade regen is too good

[smoky sequoia]

Do it coward I beleive in you

Im going to aggressivly encourage you until you do it

[rose gale]

shove a krak down the big mouth and he is gone instantly

[smoky sequoia]

Hey its Wendel OoO

Wait

Grendle

Yeah Grendle

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-grendel-prime-tenno-operator-gif-6938527056597534959

[smoky sequoia]

Fucking haven't touched Warframe in so long tf am I doing...

[tawny badger]

grendyl

[smoky sequoia]

Im

[rose gale]

i haven't played in a while either

[smoky sequoia]

By the emperor

[pseudo fiber]

I feel the short story "Need to know" backs up the sedation theory but then again we could simply be better haha.
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/short-story-need-to-know/96709

[rose gale]

i stop playing a bit after whispers in the wall, i do wanna play again with 1999 on the horizon, it looks fun

[sleek garden]

the moebian 6th veteran torso cosmetic has a pad on the arm that says something but i cant make it out

d---- thy emperor

[rose gale]

specially with destiny 2 having a really uncertain future atm

[tawny badger]

damn thy emperor?
knowing that the 6th is traitor

[smoky sequoia]

Goddammit I spent so long here defending Kraks that I have no time before work for DT

Truly I am

Depressed

[rose gale]

deny thy emperor

defy

defile

[sleek garden]

i think i see a dr

[umbral scaffold]

shove a krak down MY mouth

[smoky sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-peralta-squinting-read-trying-to-read-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-13387080

I cant see shit

[tawny badger]

drive thy emperor

[sleek garden]

or is that a p

[rose gale]

guuuh 😣

[sleek garden]

praise thy emperor makes a lot more sense

[tawny badger]

BOOORRRIIIING

[sleek garden]

why did they say to reduce confusion they changed all the names

now they have desperado as a pistol blessing

thats a veteran skill node

my zealot teammate wouldnt stay with the team and we paid the price

[rose gale]

did they call everyone else slurs ?

[tawny badger]

did they use knife

[rose gale]

there are 3 types of zealot players :
gay;
homophobic;
gay and homophobic at the same time.

[tawny badger]

warhammer 40k twitter community

[pearl sapphire]

It’s over John Warhammer, soon I shall become the 40k

[tawny badger]

I can't believe Horus Heresy committed Heresy

what was the emperor thinking

[pearl sapphire]

Honestly

[rose gale]

i made the mistake of going to a warhammer subreddit once, so many people gushing over big, naked, oiled up buff men while being homophobic

[pearl sapphire]

Would that happen to be a TTS thing? Over the custodes?

[terse gate]

Alright, have the shotty + powersword lvl 20, devils claw+ las pistol, and the plasma gun+ chain axe.

Need me another build folks

[pearl sapphire]

Yoink

[rose gale]

i wanna say it was a horus related subreddit but idk

i just wanted to see chaos content 😭

[pearl sapphire]

If you haven’t, watch the “ if the emperor had a text to speech device” series

[pearl sapphire]

Cease heresy, return to Luna wolves

[rose gale]

i think i remember seeing some eps a few years back, before i was into 40k

[tawny badger]

shit actually when was the first time I was exposed to 40k

[pearl sapphire]

It’s great, got copyrighted by Gw tho so everything in it is cannon

[umbral scaffold]

i woudl have recommended it back then but the humour is a bit dated at times since its 2015 ishy

and bellow

[tawny badger]

still has soul

[umbral scaffold]

yea, but i prefer their latest project hunter the parenting

[rose gale]

horus when he is stabbed with a poop knife and takes a nap so he must now become evil

[pearl sapphire]

My first time seeing anything 40k was watching a Sabaton song over a krieg edit

[umbral scaffold]

humour's more up to date and same crew

[umbral scaffold]

😭

youre cooked

[tawny badger]

I mean I'd become evil too if I was stabbed with a poop knife

[pearl sapphire]

Nah

[umbral scaffold]

yeah,,... you just said you listened to sabaton lil dawg ..,,😭

[rose gale]

my first 40k content was seeing a youtuber play the old space marine game when it was new and he was very autistic about the lore

[pearl sapphire]

Kinda want to learn to play actual warhammer but I refuse to play anything but ASL

[pearl sapphire]

And?

[umbral scaffold]

pop power metal lol

[rose gale]

hey, sabaton was peak when i was 13

[tawny badger]

I want to learn how to play warhammer

My wallet does not

[rose gale]

there is always tabletop simulator

[pearl sapphire]

Ok, I don’t really care, music is music dude

[umbral scaffold]

oh yeah tabletop simulator

[rose gale]

just meant it as a bit of fun, wasn't intending to sound rude

[pearl sapphire]

Gotcha, it did kinda sound off tbh

[tawny badger]

so do yall fw taxe

[pearl sapphire]

Fuck taxes

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-care-irs-taxes-tekken-bryan-fury-gif-17386276889477373756

[tawny badger]

uh

correction, do yall fw the tactical axe series of weapons from Warhammer 40k: Darktide

[terse gate]

actually just rolled a 0% weapon damage axe

thats insane

[pearl sapphire]

Oh ok, me not braining rn, about to sleep

[tawny badger]

-1% damage

[pearl sapphire]

What the fuck

[tawny badger]

healing axe

[terse gate]

taking it into auric malestrom lets see how it goes

[pearl sapphire]

Bro rolled the ghoul slayers gamma gun

[sleek garden]

Train mission ended early because traitor shield blast threw everyone off the train

[tawny badger]

daza vs poxwalker that caught a whiff of tox gas

[sleek garden]

its that easy

[rose gale]

not a big axe fan tbh

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrr-mgr-mgr-raiden-handshake-hug-gif-25122328

wait

wrong gif

[terse gate]

Gonna heal the beast of nurgle with each swing

[tawny badger]

ykw fuckit this is my life now

[pearl sapphire]

I like the DC, shiv, and chainsword

[tawny badger]

the disconnect

[rose gale]

why didn't they just blow up the train instead of sending us in ? is the commisar stupid ?

[pearl sapphire]

Yes

[rose gale]

error code 2014 moment

[tawny badger]

the commissar lowkey tried but they said none of her forces can respond in time

because they suck and are dumb and slow

[pearl sapphire]

I’d assume to not damage the rail line and also to save any valuable intel on the train

[sleek garden]

she says at the start they are not gonna make it

[rose gale]

idk, send some bombs on the ship that is carrying us ?

smh, should have done that and then we wouldn't have a new mission, hire me fatshark

[tough tiger]

Rember, tox bomb on train

U dont want that to blow up

[pearl sapphire]

I want chaos space marine boss fight

[terse gate]

just actually took me 200k dockets to roll a single rashad with 60% movement

[pearl sapphire]

More missions if we do that

[rose gale]

blow up the tox bomb with an anti tox bomb

problem solved

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-the-stones-to-destroy-the-stones-thanos-wood-minecraft-endgame-gif-7824767983135848606

[rose gale]

smh, should have just gotten a different sect of chaos cultists to fight the nurgle cult until they wipe eachother out, is the inquisition stupid ?

[tough tiger]

Since the playerbase cant stop the train in time, every auric maelstrom from now on has a new modifier: Waves of Dreg Tox Bombers

[pearl sapphire]

Bring me a new enemy type fatshark! Gimme something

[tawny badger]

just blow the tox gas away with a big fan

[pearl sapphire]

Helicopter blades

spin

[molten hound]

does anyone else feel as if the game runs a lot worse

[tawny badger]

a little

[molten hound]

it feels very slugging

[rose gale]

check if you have amd fsr on, the update turned it on for a lot of people for some reason

it dropped me from steady 60 to 30 until i noticed

[tawny badger]

what bullshit video settings is fatshark making me run now

[pearl sapphire]

My game runs rough but I’m on series s so that makes more sense

[molten hound]

amd fsr 3.1 is on

is that supposed to be on..

i dont remember

[rose gale]

is your cpu amd or nvidia ?

[molten hound]

amd

[rose gale]

then im not 100% but you could try turning it off and see if it changes anything

[pearl sapphire]

I have a good knife and a yellow Bistol, it is time

[rose gale]

don't have any experience with their cpu's so idk how it works for them

[molten hound]

all the colors look washed out too

[tall torrent]

it's a resupply cargo train that could be used for Moebian 53rd's logistics, so blowing the line up hurts more in the long run
also blowing up a train that's carrying tox bombs is
surely not gonna lead to increased plague spread

[rose gale]

blow up the tank with a vaccine bomb so the tox won't work

[idle swallow]

nothing bad ever happened from trying to blow up biological warfare toxin containers

[tawny badger]

the hive city’s already fucked who cares

[molten hound]

ok this feels a lot better so far

[idle swallow]

this one commissar

[serene bough]

the emperor, who i slaughter heretics for in his name

[tall torrent]

until we get sent to the high spires tertium is only messed up in the underhives

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[rose gale]

aren't some missions outside the underhives ?

[idle swallow]

I saw that

[pearl sapphire]

No

[tall torrent]

hourglass is outskirts abandoned area

but it's not high up in the hive

[sleek garden]

i mean it looks kinda high

there are definitely higher places

you can see them from the outside

[tall torrent]

the highest we've been to is throneside

[sleek garden]

that's above the hourglass?

[molten hound]

ok this fixed it entirely

thanks

[tall torrent]

but we haven't been sent to high spires

[rose gale]

nice

we should go deeper instead

[tall torrent]

throneside is middle level I think

[rose gale]

go so deep in the underhive we find the new enemy

skaven

[tawny badger]

we should be sent to the high spires to live an opulent life using all the dockets we acquired

[sleek garden]

throneside is still low enough to have entire levels of hive city above it

[rose gale]

1 trillion dockets buys you 5 seconds in the spires

[tawny badger]

worth

[tough tiger]

I wouldnt mind a crossover event where rejects fight skaven and uber5 fight moebian 6th

[pearl sapphire]

We should get a new special assignment where we go through tons of heretics, just to find a single alpha legion marine at the end…

[tawny badger]

wouldn’t they just shoot kerillian

[tough tiger]

Exactly

Dead elf = good elf

[pearl sapphire]

Fookin knoif airs

[rose gale]

crossover where all enemies are the same, only thing that changes is we get the vermintide chaos spawn instead

[tawny badger]

oh and also necromancer sienna

[pearl sapphire]

I could solo nurgle

[tawny badger]

❌

[pearl sapphire]

Id win

[tough tiger]

Wait! Are u telling me the chaos spawn in darktide is actually different from vermintide and that Fatshark didnt just reakin the thing?

Time to invest $1816252727 into fatshark

Darktide 2 is on the house, guys

[rose gale]

next you will tell me this sigmar guy is in 40k, perhaps as some type of monarch or king

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/taste-the-rainbow-my-sons-gif-15175390

[rose gale]

darktide 2, just the same game but they made ogryns 20% bigger and 30% dumber

[pearl sapphire]

I already stole that

[tawny badger]

orkgryns

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-emperor-of-man-emperor-gif-12094981323200160207

[rose gale]

what if they take inspiration from the overwatch devs and make darktide 2 literally the same game as darktide

[tawny badger]

with less content

[pearl sapphire]

Better optimization in the game tho?

[idle swallow]

First they need to promise a new mode thats a focus of a lot of the advertising and then just never release that new mode

[umbral scaffold]

nah permanently toggled on Ray tracing

[rose gale]

they give the beast of nurgle big titties so the blender animators are happy and call it a day

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/tales-of-heresy-kldpro-vesp-eldar-gif-16165922775068830187

[pearl sapphire]

Jiggle physics

[tawny badger]

all of you repent

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-warhammer-fisting-40k-gif-18088487

[tawny badger]

no

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cast-fist-tts-warhammer-40k-gif-16057546

[rose gale]

why he got his maggot out ?

nsfw

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/where-are-the-toasters-you-promised-us-40k-kitten-if-the-emperor-had-a-text-to-speech-device-bruva-alfabusa-gif-25065691

https://tenor.com/view/tts-warhammer-warhammer40k-the-emperor-slaanesh-gif-16325706

[severe finch]

Since general chat isn't answering anyone having issue with loadouts since the update it won't let me actually change gear

[pearl sapphire]

I haven’t had that but I saw that Someone did and they figured out it was a server thing, try relogging

[severe finch]

Relogged 3 separate time across the time since the update I'll try again

[stark cove]

Tell me, does this ONLY happen with your third vet loadout?

[severe finch]

It happening on vet and psyker but I'm stuck on slot 2 for vet of 4

[stark cove]

Hm

[severe finch]

Won't change anything when I change loadouts except the skills

Stuck with the same guns and armor

[stark cove]

I have something similar but for vet 3rd slot, I find if you rapidly switch between classes it works sometimes

[severe finch]

I'd hate to have to delete em and rebuild em from the ground up but this is annoying

Stuck on my autogun setup but want to use my doom or plasma loadout

[stark cove]

Idk if that’ll work, I’ve tried but it’s the specific loadout slots themselves not working

My moat guaranteed method is just sacrificing that slot and doing your fav builds on other ones

[severe finch]

Lol

It's my second slot and I'm forced to only use what's in it

[terse gate]

infiltrate just feels so bad on auric compared to voice of command

[hollow ibex]

eh infil is pretty good still

i like it

i mean VOC is insane of course, but infil is by no means bad or even mediocre

[terse gate]

meant executioners stanc

idk how I fucked that up

[pearl sapphire]

Executioners stance just kinda sucks compared to the other two tbh

[tame lodge]

I keep forgetting I can swap to melee during exec

💀

[umbral scaffold]

need her haircut so bad

[somber axle]

We'll never get good looking haircuts

I wish we would though

[midnight totem]

these pub rolling steel groups are terrible

[thorny gorge]

Ok, so im getting confused

How does burn and bleed stacks interact with brittleness

Does it increase the damage of the dot?

[idle swallow]

DoTs get reduced damage based on an enemies armor level and brittleness/rending bring that value back up closer to the value on an unarmored enemy

[thorny gorge]

K

[idle swallow]

very generally speaking, I'm sure there's a lot of numbers behind the scenes but that's for the crazier people

[thorny gorge]

Im trying to find said numbers and am struggling lmao

[true jackal]

dots do different damage to different health types

[last parcel]

for bleed there's a table in the pinned messages of #zealot-class

[thorny gorge]

[true jackal]

armor level isn't really a thing it's just a particualy health type

[narrow frost]

Found the new VLD meta

[torn moat]

Why so much stam?

[narrow frost]

Deadshot

[torn moat]

You don't have Deadshot on that build

[narrow frost]

oh wait

mb

missed that

[torn moat]

Yeah. Deadshot would make sense for the stam though

[tawny badger]

nah ainz is just trying to block against one (1) dreg rager

[narrow frost]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d25516d-2526-49a7-b7f3-df99ebe9f3be/meta-2

Fixed it

[keen sedge]

power blast or blast away for the plasma?

[tall torrent]

Rising heat + gets hot

[patent birch]

is this cooked?

will not having over 60% cleave targets fuck me?

[thorny gorge]

WIS

Idk lmao

[keen sedge]

what does rising heat do exactly

[faint beacon]

No

you run BM on it

or well ahem

Deathblow

then its good

[tall torrent]

+4% R.strength upon reaching 19%, 37%, 55%, 73% and 91% heat, up to +20%

[faint beacon]

if not its cooked, so you're kinda forced into running Deathblow on that sword

[patent birch]

in this heavy sword mk or just cbus cleave is low

[faint beacon]

Cleave is low

and Deathblow literally just

negates that issue

Literally just run Headtaker + Deathblow and its instantly good

[patent birch]

kk

[faint beacon]

Mk IX is the easiest to get into

[torn moat]

Infernus over Headhunter on the recon?

[narrow frost]

I forgot about headhunter

I just remembered like 2 minutes ago

using the random loudout mod

this is so funny

[torn moat]

Ah. I was in a match. Just now looking at it.

[tall torrent]

Man I cannot get used to knife without 10% atk speed

[narrow frost]

L

try it on ogryn

[torn moat]

What's the dump stat on Recon? Mobility or Stability?

[narrow frost]

stopping power

no

the stagger one

[tall torrent]

Collateral

[narrow frost]

that

[torn moat]

And perks for it?

[terse gate]

Yea nah executioners stance is ass

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[torn moat]

My only other complaint is the Enhanced Target Priority. Feels like it's kinda a dead perk.

[narrow frost]

it is

that was a troll build

[torn moat]

Ah. Here I thought you were trying to make something viable with exec stance

[narrow frost]

I can make a recon ex stance build real quick if you want

I'll show you what I use

[torn moat]

Meh. I haven't really tried ex stance in months. So if you have something I'd take a look.

[narrow frost]

its so fun now

the buff is so good

using it with every build

[torn moat]

If you have a suggestion for a build I wouldn't mind giving it a shot.

[narrow frost]

tell me a gun

[torn moat]

I'm still relearning the weapons. I haven't played in 6 months so weapons have changed a bit. Recon lasgun seems good now so I'll try that?

[narrow frost]

They got buffed I think when the penance update dropped

they are A+ tier

with VOC

deadshot is a comfort pick

I find it funny

[torn gorge]

not taking rending is uh

interesting

[torn moat]

Haha. I thought you were going to make an ex stance build for it. 😛

[narrow frost]

oh

yeah

one sec

[torn moat]

Not today. But maybe tomorrow or I'll have to try the reworked Boltgun.

[narrow frost]

no nade regen

but you can take demo team if you want

[torn moat]

No deadshot for this one?

[torn gorge]

onslaught is quite the point investment tbh

[narrow frost]

Try this out before deadshot

[verbal burrow]

I use those as well. Can recommend

[torn moat]

Will do. Thanks for the build suggestion

[narrow frost]

Yeah

but please experiment

[torn gorge]

rending strike should be an auto include in any recon

[narrow frost]

there are things you can change to fit a playstyle

I usually run a anti armor melee

[verbal burrow]

What is life without self-regenerating grenades, though ;-;

[narrow frost]

so I dont need the onslaught

nor the rending

[torn gorge]

id say onslaught is quite situational

[narrow frost]

k

[torn gorge]

as, its build defining in that sense

[tall torrent]

For XII it’s very high value

[torn gorge]

ye i know

[tall torrent]

U can drop superiority complex for rending

For recon lasguns rending helps more

[narrow frost]

you can do whatever you want

[verbal burrow]

Can I ask how you managed to take a screenie of your build without having to take 3 separate screenshots?

[narrow frost]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[radiant adder]

What are best blessings for power sword?

[manic cloak]

I take rending 100% of the time. Find it pairs best with Bolter. Most underrated talent -- would rate it a solid 5/7.

[tall torrent]

Boltgun doesn’t need rending tho

[verbal burrow]

Thank you, and before I grab my crayon, what are people discussing specifically? Looked like an Accatran brittleness + burn + rending build?

[manic cloak]

Some plebians don't seek overkill damage on the scoreboard.

[narrow frost]

a recon build I was trying for the funny

[silent cloud]

Power Cycler and Slaughter

[radiant adder]

Thought so

[silent cloud]

Slaughter can be changed to another though

But isn't PowerSword after this update has some bugs on it?

[radiant adder]

Not sure

[tall torrent]

No I mean
U can look at a boltgun’s damage profile and the only thing rending really helps is vs carapace (0.5 ADM) which goes up to 0.6

[silent cloud]

Can't recharge after get hit by horde

[verbal burrow]

I'll see if I can make a mirror of my ingame build with this site you linked

[tall torrent]

Rending doesn’t particularly help vs flak, maniac or unyielding for Boltgun

[manic cloak]

I use a feelings based approach when deciding breakpoints. Typically do a vibecheck and it leads me to Rending 100% of the time, it works everytime.

[tall torrent]

U might want to do some proper testing then

[torn moat]

What perks go best on Rashad? I keep seeing the claim that Maniac and Flak are best. but I looked in the pinned guide and that suggest unyielding and unarmored?

[orchid hemlock]

@narrow frost is that build actually OP, because all of those crits makes me shiver 💀

[manic cloak]

I'm really new to Bolyer

[narrow frost]

No

its funny

[manic cloak]

Bolter, sorry. Not sued to spelling warhammer things.

[tall torrent]

Nah it’s not maniac & flak on veteran

Carapace, weakspot, elite, unarmored, unyielding
For the most part
Depends on ur talent set-up and how many melee damage talents ur taking

I use carapace + elite

[coarse wolf]

i use carapace unyielding

very fun

headtaker + bromentum for blessings

i need to roll a new one though i only have 73% pen

[patent birch]

getting 7 more % wont give u a breakpoint or anything

[tall torrent]

It kind of will

Rashad wants 77%+ in all 4 damage related stats

[coarse wolf]

i want the perfect roll

[tall torrent]

Depends on talent set-up tho

[thorny gorge]

Does maniac/flak work for vet knife?

Im doing the dot build

[tall torrent]

Carapace + elite/weakspot/stamina

Imo

If ur gonna play bleed dot

Riposte + flesh tearer

Ignore lacerate

[thorny gorge]

Recon las

I have lacerate and mercy for knife

[orchid hemlock]

no uncanny 😔

[thorny gorge]

Theres a perk for brittleness lmao

[orchid hemlock]

onslaught only works on one target at a time

[thorny gorge]

Can gun down crushers in a few seconds

[orchid hemlock]

yes but I dont think it is useful for bleed 😔

also lacerate is just really bad on knife

just in general

[narrow frost]

false

[orchid hemlock]

🫢

how can I recover from this? 😔

[thorny gorge]

It frees up points in the skill tree

And weakspot bleed doesnt proc with mercy i think

[orchid hemlock]

wait what is "weakspot bleed"?

[thorny gorge]

Im saying for first hit

Flesh tearer i think

[junior needle]

serrated blade talent

ft is bleed on crit

But technically it applies to any source of bleed

[orchid hemlock]

yeah thats what I thought

[thorny gorge]

Theres a perk for weakspot bleed?

[junior needle]

Mercy doesn't proc until the hit after you apply bleed

No.

[orchid hemlock]

no

[thorny gorge]

Kk

[orchid hemlock]

u mentioned it

[thorny gorge]

So it is fte

[orchid hemlock]

lacerate doesnt proc on weakspot hit though

[junior needle]

Fleshtearer is crits apply bleed

Lacerate (which is bad) is bleed on non weakspot hits

[orchid hemlock]

lacerate is just bad because of that

[junior needle]

Serrated is all melee apply a single bleed stack

Which is basically useless outside of mercy killer

[thorny gorge]

It works in the recon infernus build

[junior needle]

Infernus is not very good

[thorny gorge]

It is now

[junior needle]

And serrated doesn't apply bleed with your ranged attacks

[thorny gorge]

Dont need it too

[junior needle]

I don't recall any recent changes to infernus

[orchid hemlock]

well regardless just because it works for you, it doesn't make it optimal in comparison to other talents

[junior needle]

Nor do I really see the synergy between them

[thorny gorge]

Its with how you build the gun

[junior needle]

The current hype build is DS/dumdum

[thorny gorge]

It was really hard to get the blessings and mods

Headhunter and infernus

+shock trooper

[orchid hemlock]

u need dumdum on all of the recons

[junior needle]

That's old news

[orchid hemlock]

at the very least

[junior needle]

Headhunter is supposedly only a small practical crit rate increase if you're already crit stacking

And infernus is mediocre at best

Just due to how it functions mechanically

Az said something like 3-5% crit rate increase on average

[orchid hemlock]

thats assuming u have full stacks of repri at all times tho

[junior needle]

Did he say that?

Because I'm sure he doesn't have full reci stacks at all times

Although it was supposedly unscuffed with its activation on normal shooters

[orchid hemlock]

yes, the whole reasoning is that headhunter looses value the more crit you have

[terse idol]

I just built both of the straight damage talents and the recon's preeettyy goood

[junior needle]

So it's much, much better than how it used to be. And it doesn't require you to have good aim

[verbal burrow]

This is my Recon pew pew build for when I am being a silly person:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d25683a-08ec-41e4-a82b-cb35de367c68

[thorny gorge]

It is

[orchid hemlock]

so if you have full stacks of repri, the 5 % perk and 5 % talent that equals about 35% crit, which means you will only get about 2 stacks of headhunter at any given time before it resets

[verbal burrow]

Still unsure how you managed to get a screenshot of the whole thing in one go tho

[junior needle]

Effective crit rate is nearly doubled because of crit strings

[thorny gorge]

Do you know what makes the recon las special?

Double beam on crit

[junior needle]

It doesn't feel bad to fire like ilas?

Fatshark need to work on their dog recoil system

[orchid hemlock]

yes because of the double proc, but again that resets headhunter anyways so is isn't really relevant to the procing

[verbal burrow]

I milk a lot of crit for the Accatran from Deadshot

[edgy dew]

is ceaseless barrage better than deathspitter or fire frenzy on a braced auto?

[verbal burrow]

Free ammo and burn stacks galore

[thorny gorge]

It matters with shock troop

[orchid hemlock]

im not talking about shock trooper

💀

[junior needle]

It doesn't work when you're out of stamina, so you're giving up a lot to try and leverage that

[verbal burrow]

It doesn't? 😮

[thorny gorge]

But crit stacking with head hunter for shock trooper is my answer lmao

[verbal burrow]

Well they sure coulda put that on the tin

[junior needle]

6d will run you out of stamina in about 2s even with max stamina curios and from tree

[orchid hemlock]

yes unless u are going that troll build Ainz was doing, deadshot is trash on recon

[junior needle]

Yeah deadshot would be must have on most things if it worked without stam

[narrow frost]

deadshot is fine

if you understand how it works

ads will use stamania

hip fire wont

alternate between that

[verbal burrow]

ye

[narrow frost]

if you want crit

ads

if not

then dont

simple as

[junior needle]

That's a lot of effort, and also you lose efficacy from the hipfire because it's not nearly as accurate as the ads

[verbal burrow]

Oh no it's Hadron

[narrow frost]

sure its some effort

but it works amazingly

[junior needle]

You can get essentially the same thing with a regular setup

[narrow frost]

*for me

[verbal burrow]

I don't really get the luxury of not spraying nonstop tho

Too many little people with the floo running at me with rusty objects

[junior needle]

It's more practical if you use the gun formerly known as 7a

[orchid hemlock]

this is the build I use with onslaught: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[junior needle]

6d is much too fast for deadshot

[verbal burrow]

Onslaught?

[orchid hemlock]

yes onsalught

[verbal burrow]

Which is?

[orchid hemlock]

ur using it too on your build

[verbal burrow]

Doesn't mean I remember all 30 names

[verbal burrow]

Yeah the brittleness application one, sure

[orchid hemlock]

this is the one without onslaught: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c39a0c4-39ed-417d-bb6d-838991d8fb09/femboy-vet?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[junior needle]

Onslaught is a bit investment and only really adjusts your ttk on crushers and mauler heads

For everything else, rending strikes is fine

[patent birch]

does item level do anything for damage

[verbal burrow]

I'm gonna be real and say that I usually just play a shooty bloke with a plasma gun. Accatrans are a bit of a side hustle for me when I want to derp

[junior needle]

Only your damage stats affect damage

(this includes stopping power, penetration, w/e else)

[patent birch]

perks?

[narrow frost]

@junior needle have you tried 10% rending on recon?

[verbal burrow]

That rending talent makes a very noticable difference when firing at a carapace-armoured Ogryn in the sim zone.

[minor iron]

what are people using build wise for revolver/shovel vet? mark or weapon specialist?

[tall torrent]

If ur playing revolver it’s basically just weapon specialist

[narrow frost]

Focus target is very fun for a shooting gallery

[strange crow]

Wait so does strength only affect stagger, rending, cleave, etc?

[tall torrent]

Strength affects damage, stagger & cleave

Rending affects Armor damage modifier (against flak, maniac, unyielding & carapace)

[strange crow]

Ok cool

Yeah ik what rending does I just knew strength did 3 things and I thought they said damage wasn’t one of them (obv not what they meant)

[verbal burrow]

I have decided that the build I normally run is so close to the most upvoted guard build on that site that it isn't even worth posting

[tall torrent]

Most Gameslantern builds are just horrible lol

[junior needle]

Strength is presumably just rebranded power

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader

[junior needle]

But that has nothing to do with item level, which does not directly affect damage

[orchid hemlock]

this is the most upvoted vet build ☠️

[faint beacon]

Flak + Maniac

[junior needle]

No, I've never even played this game

[tall torrent]

My veteran melee journey so far
Rashad -> power sword -> Rashad -> chainsword -> DC sword -> Rashad -> knife -> Rashad -> knife -> duelling sword -> Rashad

[junior needle]

I just squat in the vet channel

[last parcel]

rashad:

[orchid hemlock]

It always comes back to Rashad

[tall torrent]

For some reason I only like Rashad on veteran

I enjoy crusher way more than Rashad on zealot

[orchid hemlock]

@tall torrent has Rashad been dethroned by the DS? 😔

[sullen scarab]

Bolt pistol dump stat is collateral?

[tall torrent]

If u want a single target 1 trick with minimal investment

But that’s not what Rashad does

[viral nacelle]

Rashad is the perfect vet melee

[tall torrent]

It really just is

[viral nacelle]

Anyone who says otherwise gets a close and personal Rashad experience

🪓

[last parcel]

rashad doesn't have the knife inspect animation. trash tier

[strange crow]

Spooky

[tall torrent]

I will try my best to not put Rashad in every example build in my guide

[faint beacon]

Rashad on IM21st when Heavy Sword walks in

[orchid hemlock]

is rashad still unarmored as a required perk?

[tall torrent]

Nah

[strange crow]

Noob question here but is it useful to have both rending blessings on chain sword? Seems overkill to me but idk

[hasty otter]

Antax isnt too bad honestly

[tall torrent]

No u need at most rending strikes

[orchid hemlock]

no?

[orchid hemlock]

what is it now?

[tall torrent]

Some perk-related breakpoints changed because now that everybody can roll 4x80s

[strange crow]

Ok lol I was just wondering bc that’s what the build had 😭

The one Orcka linked

[orchid hemlock]

what?

[strange crow]

Wait I’m stupid I can’t read

[orchid hemlock]

2 rending blessings?

on chainsword

[strange crow]

I should kill mayelf myself

[orchid hemlock]

I didnt even know chainsword had rending blessings

[strange crow]

Cleave my b

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-24337002

[strange crow]

It’s been a long night for me

[last parcel]

killing yourself is punishable by death

[orchid hemlock]

cleave is ok on chain swords because they do not fall off damage when cleaving thru enemies

[strange crow]

Ahh ok

[tall torrent]

U can use carapace, elite, unyielding, weakspot

I use carapace + elite

[hasty otter]

Get Canadian healthcare NOW

[orchid hemlock]

I just never use CS on vet

[strange crow]

I haven’t either lol

Maybe when I was still on malice but yeah

[patent birch]

i feel like im struggliung with getting toughness

any tips

[orchid hemlock]

why is unarmored now not required anymore?

[tall torrent]

U can hit scab bruiser 1HS with just headtaker stacks + melee talents

[tall torrent]

What does ur build look like

[frank basin]

now, do the HSword

[tall torrent]

I theorized about heavy sword for like 5 seconds then immediately decided I’d rather use achlys axe

[frank basin]

it is balls or no balls

[tall torrent]

It’s alr

HS9 is pretty insane horde clear

My horde clear benchmark is off rn I basically only care if a weapon can clear M21st groaners well

[patent birch]

bassically this @tall torrent

dept im going middle for the shout

[frank basin]

i feel 21st are between groaner and brusier

[tall torrent]

Are u killing specialist & elites quickly

[patent birch]

during hoards its my job for any specials ur saying?>

[tall torrent]

Well veteran is usually good at killing them quickly

And everything else

Ur toughness gain relies entirely upon u killing things

[tall torrent]

They actually just have scab bruiser stats lol

But they come in groaner numbers

[orchid hemlock]

vet just kills everything

[tall torrent]

I just checked

[frank basin]

are you saying they are equal to scab brusier stats?

or lower?

[tall torrent]

Flak body
Unarmored head
625 health

It’s identical to a scab bruiser in terms of health & Armor

So yea

No wonder they’re actually threatening lol

[frank basin]

oh you use healthbar mod check their health

[tall torrent]

It’s basically 50+ scab bruiser spam

No I just used creature spawner & scoreboard

I’m too lazy to download health bars back

[frank basin]

was it buggy back then?

[tall torrent]

No?

I don’t use health bars cuz it’s too cheesy imo

[frank basin]

yeah i can see special and elite when healthbar pop out

i ignore trashmob healthbar

btw am using mk6 heavy sword @tall torrent

how it feel using mk6?

[tall torrent]

It’s alr

[frank basin]

and what special mk9?

you said it kill the horde

[tall torrent]

Mk9 is usually considered the best one because u can loop H2 + H3 to cleave horde

Better attack patterns

[last parcel]

imagine not having to flick your mouse every heavy swing to make it flat

[frank basin]

guess am the only brainless here spamming light attack pattern; althrough i like H1 overhead killing muttie that big damage from mk6

[tall torrent]

Light spam on heavy sword is basically not relevant lol

[last parcel]

he did say brainless 🤔

[cunning haven]

hi, im trying to finish my helbore build i can choose 3 out of the following 5 talents

• focus target
• competitive urge
• kill zone
• rending strike
• covering fire

im thinking covering fire might be helpful for the team. focus target only really helps with bosses. competitive urge and killzone might be nice stacked together but often wont be. rending strike lets me pen the maulers and the crushers with my bayonet. i would really appreciate some insight

[tall torrent]

What does ur tree look like

[umbral garnet]

A full overview of the tree would really help, if you could.

And maybe a picture of the bayonet as well?

[cunning haven]

how do i show you? i can't post screenshots here

[frank basin]

ehh i like relaxation meleeing while on alert with specials noise, if i try focus oh like PA + heavy/light, heavy + light repeat, i would get distracted, i means like too busy didn't pay attention to special cue

[verbal burrow]

Mine is usually like https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d257a7c-812c-4677-822a-55c6b516e002

[umbral garnet]

Oh, right, you aren't a convict.

[last parcel]

you can make it and save it here then share the link until then
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[cunning haven]

ah, thanks

[torn moat]

What blessings are best for Agri combat shotgun? Manstopper and Full Bore? Or does it make sense to go No Respite for the alt-fire?

[verbal burrow]

The main issue I have is that I spend so much effort on trying to help teammates, but they all squirrel off

[umbral garnet]

Nothing like a knife Zealot.

[west cave]

this pic made me remember I really wanna hotshot las for veteran

[umbral garnet]

Scurrying off to murder people miles away.

[verbal burrow]

So in the end I feel like a lot of my coherency/aura effects end up going to waste due to a lack of cohesion

[last parcel]

maybe in 2070

[west cave]

before or after heavy machine gun?

[last parcel]

after

[west cave]

dam

[umbral garnet]

The day the Vet gets an equivalent to the Ogryn twin barrel will be the day horses grow horns.

[west cave]

wonder if they'll finally introduce variants to weapons that dont have any, now that you have an option to choose between them

like bolter or double barrel

[verbal burrow]

I don't feel I need a twin barrel tbh

Plasma gun already goes through all cover and meat until it hits the edge of the map

[umbral garnet]

Well, let me rephrase, an equivalent to the dreg gunner's weapon.

[west cave]

never liked plasma in this game

[verbal burrow]

from the moment I understood what it did, my lasgun never felt the same

[west cave]

dunno why, just dont feel it

[umbral garnet]

Hotshot is the scab gunner, dunno the dreg's machine gun.

[verbal burrow]

Oh you haven't lived until you see a plasma bolt sheering through an entire horde that's running down a narrow corridor. Truly beautiful

[umbral garnet]

When it really comes down to brass tacks, I just want a bloody backpack fed/powered gun.

[west cave]

I prefer bolter turning everything into ketchup

[verbal burrow]

And if you take the suppression talent the rest of them will be like "What the fuck just happened "

[west cave]

more intuitive

and consistent

[verbal burrow]

How is it not consistent, you pull the trigger, and everything in that line dies irrespective of cover

[west cave]

I dunno

I fire plasma and I feel like im just doing the same damage as bolter but firing it is more clunky

maybe slightly higher

[verbal burrow]

Thing is that the bolt round explodes on impact with the first target. The Plasma bolt just keeps going

[cunning haven]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d257cc1-4840-40dd-b0fd-47634002dd34/squad-leader-7?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
@tall torrent @umbral garnet

[verbal burrow]

I think the plasma gun is also our only ranged weapon that penetrates cover

[umbral garnet]

I will say, I miss what I feel like should've been weakspots more with plasma than bolter, it's semi-counterpart.

[west cave]

I really wanted to main plasma but I just cant put up with it

Im prob stupid

but bolter feels more natural

[verbal burrow]

My right arm is well past it's prime so weak spots are a bit of a problem for me, but plasma doesn't care because it just goes through everything

[atomic zephyr]

it’s really up to preference

plasma has way more cleave and potential single shot damage

but bolter magdump is uncontested for dps

[west cave]

you can do a lot of single shot damage with bolter with scope crits

[umbral garnet]

It also just feels better than sex.

[atomic zephyr]

i know I had a build like that

found it too clunky, swapped to whatever the vraks 7 is called now

but it was fun

i use bolt pistol now to mitigate the clunkiness

[west cave]

right was about to ask

is there any point in using bolt pistol over bolter

[umbral garnet]

Bistol is so fun

[atomic zephyr]

WAY faster

[umbral garnet]

Way more mobility, same punch, no dump.

[atomic zephyr]

and much better handling

[west cave]

so good for precision shots right?

[umbral garnet]

Excellent, yes.

[west cave]

like just sending headshots single file into stuff

oke I should give it a try then

[umbral garnet]

It doesn't have great cleave, mind.

But it's built for single target annihilation. Like Zarona.

[west cave]

bolter magdump is good against ogryns and whatnot cuz you can solo one with 4-5 shots

which always feels nice

[umbral garnet]

Bistol can do that just as easily.

Just with slower TTK.

[west cave]

noted

[umbral garnet]

If built right*

[west cave]

thats mainly why I use bolter

[junior needle]

Is covering fire the one that requires you to shoot into chaffe near your allies to restore toughness?