#veteran-class
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weapons that have weaknesses are more interesting than ones that don't
Naw pretty much all guns are viable too.
though I have no idea what mks are good and which aren't anymore
rashad is everything wrong with game design
The recons were sitting at the bottom of the list but got some love
it's weaknesses where mainly usability which didn't help
boltgun still has the same problems, they haven't fixed it, they just slapped a massive bandaid fix that basically makes it impossible to miss with it.
I take boltpistol for a spin and hit so many shots that would have missed with a laspistol
all the while aiming for center mass
this is a different game with no screenshake what in the fuck
Did they reduce the projectile size of the revolver shots?
not this last patch afaik
I was missing way more with it but I wasn't sure if it was a mechanical issue or a server communication issue
Yeah it's been dicey
Cleave target dump
This is interesting (very late to reading it). So the goal is basically just uncharged spam to get a couple of shots off? Elites gives the breakpoints on most, flak gets you the gunners?
Used to be you could do charged to body crushers and the like, seems like that's fallen to the wayside for plasmas.
Man I want that 
Happily, doesn't take too much to get now! 
People have been playing like this???????????????????????
WHat's going on
U can also use rapid fire crosshair to instantly boost ur headshot accuracy by 25%
Ur welcome 
crazy
Use rapid fire crosshair
depends on your talents and also if you're assuming you hs or not and what level of buffs you're assuming you have from weapon blesses/conditionals from talents; i took flak/elite on mine to get flak rager 1hs bps with tag plasma with very minor conditional buffs; it's probably changed now that rising heat is in the bless pool and it's more achievable to get perfect stats
ok i got the penance done i just had to complain about it in vet chat first
Ideally it’s unarmored/elite + flak/maniac
Yup pretty much. Just uncharged spam
Unarmored: Dreg gunner 1HS without superiority complex, Dreg Tox bomber 1 bodyshot
Elite: Dreg gunner 1HS with superiority complex, boosts damage vs other elites
Flak: scab gunner 1 bodyshot, scab mauler 2 bodyshot (1 crit) higher consistency
Maniac: Dreg rager 1HS, both flamers 1 bodyshot
For plasma
if you're just spamming uncharged shots wouldn't charge rate be the dump stat?
No because charge rate affects uncharged shots’ firerate
oh
Charge rate still does effect the speed of getting off uncharged shots too
that's misleading
elite with superiority complex also gets you both shotgunner 1 shot bodyshot as well i think, don't remember any other notable ones
They gun charges up before every shot, there's just a minimum and a maximum, and if you only left click it always does minimum charge
i remember when ppl were rolling plasma to get 73 charge rate specifically
because otherwise the plasma gun did less damage
Yeah charge rate used to effect the damage profile, now it's just fire rate
what if you inspect the weapon and mouse over the stat it tells you what it does
unrelated question but what is the playstyle of right-side-of-tree veteran? kinda seems like a loner zealot but idk
it's just vet but you do all the team stuff basically
i know but just at first glance i wouldn't think charge rate affected uncharged fire rate
since most stealth vets i've met run low profile
Zealot but harder hitting & slightly slower
so like press F then rez, fix interrogator, interact with miscelaneous stuff?
yeah, just hope your teammates don't stand on top of you to "defend" you lol
take out a priority target amidst a horde maybe?
That’s every class’ job
or just leave them to do everything and run away 
the other usage is that it suppresses everything on dropping stealth and if you have low profile you just get to dps for a while
It's very small iirc though
You'd have to be at 60% I thiiink for it to feel different
cos everything ignores you and gunners/shooters suppressed
Can't we just shoot through allies now?
you get trapped if an ally is standing on your ass and dodges the trapper
Which is what it's at if you straight dump CR
same for flamer/crusher etc
Shoulda dodged the trapper too 
my stack has a running joke every time that kinda shit happens to a stealth vet
Preemptive dodge when you hear a sniper shot, Preemptive dodge when you hear a trapper
hmm ty im gonna just copypaste a right-side tree build cuz it seems like the one i understand the least
60% charge rate: 0.7s pre-fire delay (86rpm)
71% charge rate (perfect): 0.645s pre-fire delay (93rpm)
That’s an 8.5% increase in attack speed
It’s noticeable
U can play with a charge rate dump
It just won’t feel as good
This change only feels okay but I was just using the bolter and jesus christ it feels like a different weapon
So I'm being lazy asking this while I patch some things... but like, what do you lose out on if you don't take maniac and you go flak/elite?
what do you guys take as far as your curios and curio perks
U can still 1 tap flamers, but only headshots
And u can’t 1 tap Dreg ragers without crit headshot
Oh hell. Okay, so body-shots, you basically need to play out maniac.
That’s pretty much it
But flak, you gain ragers and gunners
3x gunner res, 3x ordos, 2x stamina Regen, 1x corruption res
1 HP, 1 toughness, 1 stam
Usually, anyway
Flak gives u shotgunners (without superiority) guaranteed, scab gunner 1 bodyshot in some cases and better mauler 2 tap consistency
I play unarmored + flak
Unarmoured gets you additional gunners and headshots, I assume?
I'm really out of the loop. I was big on the plasma charged crusher on-shots way back.
Dreg gunner 1HS without superiority complex
Dreg Tox bomber 1 bodyshot
I think Tox bomber 1 bodyshot is a huge breakpoint actually cuz this guy fucks things up hard
He has to die first
Elite + maniac
Ah didn't know that one, that's very nice
What bp's anywho?
Elite: both gunner 1HS (Dreg needs superiority complex)
Maniac: both flamer 1HS
Gotcha. So what is 10% elites providing people that I'm seeing on the "perfect' one? That's basically rager/crusher/mauler damage.
10% elite helps vs all elites and still secures Dreg gunner 1HS
But I like unarmored more because:
tox bomber gets to die easier
Free up 2 points for other talents
here are the bones of a build; you have some more points to play with.
can swap out for blood for or additionally take close order drill/confirmed kill if you want extremely large amounts of regen,
can swap for kraks
take fully loaded/superiority complex if your weps needs the breakpoints
always prepared good if you have a revolver/shotgun/etc that's a pain in the ass to reload or just want the qol if you're hotswapping all the time (as agile engagement and weapon spec incentivizes)
oo, i like this. was looking at another build and there was a lot of grenade focus, but using not-smoke grenade
Are you counting on the FT tag damage bonus to hit all these BPs you're talking about
my other builds use not smoke so this looks good
Yea plasma wants FT
disclaimer: i usually take kraks instead and just use them on bulwark packs because i hate fighting them and demo team recharge is usually enough to recharge in between bulwark packs/crusher packs/bosses
I don’t like plasma with WS
WS’s ranged weapon atk speed buff throws me off
I don’t like variable firerate on my precision single shot guns
unfortunately i'd have to take 1 less node due to pathing with krak grenade, annoying but probably still doable
what's dumpstat on bolt pistol anyway
collat
i think im gonna run +aura radius just until i get that obnoxious penance done where i have to run 2384923 kilometres with the team or whatever
What're your thoughts on longshot talent with plasma
longshot can hit some BPs but more rarely now since it got nerfed
Don’t bother
+0.6% damage at 13m

I am the Emperor's BEST killer 💪
Top left starting branch is basically turbo ass
+20% ranged base damage is ass?
U mean longshot?
+0.6% damage vs enemy 13m away
Is there a scenario where that’s not ass
Why take Longshot when u could take the 7 other ranged-related damage nodes
The other stuff is more impactful
Longshot's damage bonus doesn't properly come into play until ranges you rarely find yourself fighting at
Longshot - bad
Exhilarating takedown - situationally ok
Volley adept - ok (but not as good as tactical reload tbh)
5% health - whatever, u could just take 5% health below krak
what sort of weapons would you recommend for this? probably something finesse for the melee i'd imagine, but idk about ranged weapon
I really want to like Exhil Takedown though
Remember when Exhilarating Takedown caused you to take MORE damage? Lmfao
also further down the right side tree, +25 toughness over Exploit Weakness? The latter seems like it could be good for tankier targets that somehow survive crits maybe? or nah
Gotcha. This makes a whole lot of sense. Does "Bring it Down" even provide any breakpoints at this point for Ogryn?
those are my last questions i promise
Exploit weakness is only maybe ok if u play a bleed knife without uncanny
And maybe Tac axe
Naw that's a really niche talent that doesn't help very much, but toughness is always good
ewww precision weapon without uncanny
things die before you crit them a bunch of times
i would never
basically
i kinda figured but wanted to ask anyways
25 Toughness is always good
I’m considering a riposte + flesh tearer knife build for the memes
Kind of? Crusher 3 shot?
But I don’t think u should rely on plasma to kill crushers
But I also think bring it down is good just because u have more damage vs monsters
stormbringer i know ur writing an essay but i assume the final 3 points are just flex slots? ty for the help btw lol i guess i lied about having one last question
something fast swap is good
revolver is a classic because you can take always prepared below weapn spec which, if you kill 1 enemy in with melee in between each shot, will reload 1 bullet every time you switch. you can use this to have a revolver with dumped reload and maxed mobility and never hand-reload (most efficient way to reload is to kill enemy -> switch to ranged -> switched back, kill again) with an effective [your ammo capacity] sized mag. so if you quickswap in between kills you can reload your whole mag off 5 enemies.
but it isn't great for maximizing agile because shooting every ten seconds or so for a ranged kill to be able to get melee buffs is heavy on the ammo use.
laspistol or other weps like that where you can shoot a horde goober to maintain agile/weapon spec after the buffs run out work good. a laspistol with dumped stability and maxed mobility is also a decent mobility stick if you take a slower melee wep
or weapons that crit really well and can abuse the guaranteed crit from weapon spec (so things like manstopper shotguns, revolver, etc).
generically strong weapons like vraks autogun are good too; it crits well, the crit from weapon spec is just okay for an auto wep but its crit strings benefits heavily from reciprocity crit stacking a bit higher in that subtree, and the 5% crit node above infiltrate.

That's an interesting take, I could see it. Crushers dying to the powersword 2-hit combos instead, or karks, or just depending on team?
yeah basically, they kinda depend on what weps you take what nodes are best. also if you take something like revolver i'd probably consider taking confirmed kill instead of out for blood earlier etc
I mean, killing bosses in <20s is never a bad thing
since revolver with an almost bottomless ammo pool lets you get a ton of elite kills first
Oh, I meant interesting take on the Crushers. Used to be plasma was the one-hit-delete against crushers.
I never considered plasma to be the main pick for killing crushers
Melee is always my go-to for carapace damage
these days there are a lot of crusher one shot deletes
Is Grenade Tinkerer a "must take" for Kark builds? Are Karks even considered particularly useful?
what are the go-to helbore perks/blessings nowadays
also the marks look different, i have no idea what these are lol
Da current build
I love a good no capstone build ngl
imo the white clothes you get from commissary are DRIPPY AS FUCK
Vet just flat out doesn't need one
can i miss any shot at all for the killshot uniform?
Riposte, shred, uncanny, precog
90% accuracy
I dont think any of my builds have capstones except for one just because it was right there which is the mark ability
I did it with the double-barrel
Just dump it into crowds and mostly melee
Took two tries, I think
No rend because plasma?
For krak yea I’d say take tinkerer, it’s free boss damage
they're the worst grenade but if you lack a way to quickly kill armor they're an A tier pick
i left my last run cause a psyker nuked a crowd and made me miss a shot 😦
Nah, it's just 90% accuracy
For a full ammo double-barrel you can miss like
5~ shots
Nah u can speedrun bosses with kraks, it’s useful
Idk, I’m just running Bistol and DC sword
you'll never wreck bosses as well with kraks as you can with your weapons and a proper boss killing setup, but they're really nice if you don't have that
Kraks are specialty nades
It just speeds up the process, especially in monster maelstrom
They’re very good at a specific thing
But I can kill a crusher in the time it takes for someone to throw a krak and for it to detonate with a psword or plasma gun
U can casually hit 200k boss damage with kraks in monster maelstrom
They seem like a good supplement to plasma, given plasma is focused down on smaller mob one-shots
It's certainly better for bosses
Yea for boss dmg it does that well
how many shots can i miss with revolver?
I feel my blood pressure spike when I see someone throw them at fucking maulers tho
87
So around 8 shots
hm shotgun or revolver
If you do miss only 8, and you're close to the end
Just snag a small tin
And don't miss again
I actually did that when I got it with the shotgun
Just to be safe
It depends, tons of them, krak, 1-2, shoot them or melee
it's hard to not miss with teammates shooting at my targets as well
I can kill a pack of maulers in that time
Hard to miss a whole horde
Pack of maulers are easy to control
it can be white hitmarker?
for the killshot uniform
Just needs to be 90% accuracy, no ammo remaining if that's the one we're talking about
goddamnit i can't tell the difference between the helbore lasguns
like some of them do ever so slightly more damage or what
It's mostly about charge time and charged shot damage. although one of them has a different bayonet attack
i think it can be a white hitmarker, yes - maybe im wrong tho
IIIa = balanced
V = high firerate
IV = high damage
hmm ok
unironically the IIIa and the V bayonet attack is one of the best melee attacks in the game
it can stagger ragers out of their attack
a shame the Mk4 never got the same love
lol i did notice it felt quite strong sometimes
Imagine if flamer explosions were on that poxburster type shit
brutal momentum and limbsplitter on your melee wep used to apply to bayonet stabs lol
with no limbsplitter cooldown
so, on helbore V, flak/maniac with new version of onslaught and brittle?
Surgical + WoF/no respite (?)
Interesting, I always thought for the light/quick helbore it's better to swap out surgical because of how frequently you're blasting
so easy to get max weapons now
Yeah the rolls are so much more forgiving.
I already have like 6 max weapons
how come brunts armory only has one mark of each weapon?
Because you can change marks at will now.
whuh???
So it makes no sense to display all of them.
how to change mark
Just pick what mark you want from the weapons list.
i can't wait for them to take rolling steel out of the QP queue
I can’t wait for them to fix the RNG stat distribution to stop giving only 4x80+60s
ty ! gotta go tho thanks for the insignt !
Np!
The curios are three of the same but ye
Rolling Steel should be under operations, not QP.
Yiu get 274 toughness, hella tdr, and regen, on top of just deciding to be Danny phantom and going ghost whenever for full deaggro and tp refill
Smoke helps get the enemies to kark off
And plasma and sword are your kill anything sticks
It's really good
One shotting crushers is pretty strong I fink
274 
Mhm c:
Absolute tank unit
thanks!
Amazing
If killing a sniper from 50m away is meme material sure
Weapon specialist
Yeah weapon specialist is a meme with double-barrel
Why reload it
Never reload ever
Weapon spec is insane on double barrel
Just quick swap every once in a while
Just empty the chamber then beat heretics over the head with it
My favorite build
quick swap!? doom eternal!?!?!?!?
Doom reference
stab 3 things with mk3 knife then unleash my infinite cleave and bleed
I love this
anyone got some good damnation ready vet builds for a returning player to try out? Looks like the builds thread hasn't seen any activity in ages
@tall torrent btw when is that zealot guide coming out?
LEONNN! HALLLPPPP
i have a trusty shout build i play when i want to warm up
Ask dorn, he’s the one doing zealot guide, idk what his progress is
its just auto gun, shout in the middle
I just posted one ^
take the talent that gives your friends melee buffs for shooting enemies
Violence
That's what I've been using. Power Sword + Quickdraw Revolver Commisar
I’m done after veteran guide, not gonna attempt zealot guide
But I see we have access to a lot more weapons now, and some of the talents are different
its wild that you can master a weapon in like a afternoon of running aurics
Also based af name
After dorn gets his guide out I’ll link his in my guide’s first page alongside the others @orchid hemlock
I usually prefer playing shooty guard. I enjoyed Kantrael guard a lot when the game first came out, and I've been using quickdraw comissar since the talent rework.
when they annouced the system i was sure each weapon would be atleast a 50 hour grind
Why didnt I think of that lmao
Green tier sacrafices are like 7.5 - 10k mastery each
Its super breezy
Just last night I sacrificed a few weapons amd managed to get full mastery on everything in like 10 minutes
I started buying trash from brunt, upgrading to anointed, the sacrificing. 2-3 weapons per level
Only cost me <10k plasteel for EVERYTHING done
has anyone done the math yet on exact numbers for mastery 0-20 with nothing but brunt and plasteel
And I was able to sell the excess trash for 50k plasteel back
I can try
I have heavy swords left to do, my last 0 mastery
I never use em
I'll do it rn
How do you want me to measure? Counting in # of anointed weapons ?
I'll take a picture of starting mats then again afterwards and subtract ti see how much I spent
I would record starting mats, and dockets but also track the number of indevidual items needed
Done
also some questions need to be asked first like is blue or green trade more efficent perplasteel
Blue is better
Wait actually
Blue costs slightly more plasteel
So yeah
I'll see
just tested green is way more efficent
Well it also means you'll be spending more dockets if not
Noted. Will try that
Stuck in fucking perma loading screen smh
How are we gonna keep note of the results? Anyone wanna post it somewhere?
I just got hard carried by a knife sneak zealot on damnation orthos and it’s got me questioning my classuality
It'll get lost in the chat overnight if we don't pin it somewhere safe
im probably going to try and recreate your results as close as posssible campair data and most likly post to reddit if somebody has not done so which i guess we shoudl also check
Honestly the knife alone seemed worth it for the speed
Go ahead and check rq
I'm trying to load back in but I just fucking crashed at operative select
The machine spirit is really trying to prevent me from obtaining this arcane knowledge
Oh wow
So the number is 35
104~108
yup atleast according to genaricmysteryinternetman#38 and you know what they say, nobody on the internet has been wrong about anything ever before in the history of time
So around 350000 dockets and 3500 plasteel
If I round down the average
Maybe make it 400k and 4000
Depending on the rating it varies
Can someone send me a few pics of decent sneak vet talent tree
I just sent one ^^
.
At least I won't have to spend the mats on a weapon I couldn't give a skaven's arse about
Lol
Slowly upgrading all my weapons again.
I love you
Love isn't real.
Cease your heresy
The Emperor loves us all. Praise be to Him!
For He has blessed you this day
Blessed me with enemies and ammunition.
Alright, I guess no one on Xbox is playing orthos on heresy
More like
I can join in a few
just did it with shotgun, had to clutch rolling steel
I'm on rn just doing some blessmaxxing
Blessed
In about thirty minutes I'll be online.
Ok
Go ahead and send the invite
I'll finish up then I'll be ready
how does agile engagement come into play with the helbore lasgun? does the bayonet count as a melee attack?
Well I'd hope so lol
That's my fs friend code beside my name
whats the highest rating curio i can get
I dont think rating matters for those
gotcha
Just look out for 17% toughness, and 21% health ones
Those are quite rare and are the max yiu can get
I can't live without ample Stamina myself
One minute, in a game
Kk
I cant wait to show Rinda my Burgle's Toothbrush
I think she'll love it
That's what I would name this bad boi if I could
Karkin thing eats crushers like ogryns eat kraks
I should come up with a name for my shovel.
The Doomspoon comes to mind.
just tried this build out.
crackhead gameplay. 9/10.
Dassa good one!
though, honest question, why not dueling sword?
Dueling sword offers better runspeed
No u
i want to try it with a dueling sword because knife, while fun, has me feeling like
Do it do it do it
I can't live without my shovel going 'spang'.
Knife just has better light attack damage in my experience as well
PONG
makes it way easier to stack weapon spec without thinking
extremely valid
twd peaked here and never came back.
yea I bailed after season... 2?
whats the blessings i should shoot for with dueling sword?
Probably relentless strikes and
why do power swords feel so bad without power cycler
Uncanny strike
it honestly really sucks taking 5 light attacks to the head of a scab bruiser
Real
I just got done with it and I feel built different
my shovel has Decimator and Take a Swing for now. Might look into swapping it.
Toggle between hordeclear and single target
Never used the knife before and it feels good
preconition and uncanny strikes
reposte to uncanny live happy
Gonna put unarmoured, sunder and block damage reduction on it
i really want to make it work without power cycler
alrightie
ill see about getting some uhhh
sacrficies going
i have so much mats now
I use thrust and limbsplitter on my mk7
But for the standard mk1 I have
Decimator amd skullcrusher
The mk7 with that build and carapace perk I can one shot crushers as a vet
With the right build
check your veteran or zealot for a bunch of profane weapons and upgrade them all
I use MkVII so maybe Limbsplitter would be nice to have.
Re inv
It's for the special attack
With thrust
Guaranteed mutie amd rager breakpoints
Take maniac and carapace perks on it
@distant phoenix heresy or damnation, I’ll let you pick
I prefer damnation but it's up to you
I'm in
I only care about diamantine gainz
(B)e (W)all
just realized i could change the mk of my weapons
(W)e (B)all
Lol
If you need another, send me an invite
I just found that out yesterday after mastering the DC, don’t feel bad
We on ekbawks
He can still join
Yeah
Well try the secret hard mode after this
It’s that type of crossplay? Ok
And inv him
Calm down with the chance Kharn
The Emperor gives his hardest battles to his greatest warriors.
wake up in the morning feeling like p diddy
what is up gang
passed out while making my lunch
almost burnt myself alive
Who tf is this useless ass psyker
Idk
Smite ain't doin shit
I wasn’t paying attention to my health tho so that’s kinda on me
I’ll brb, see if you can get him in here
I can pop their shield but imma need one of youze to do the dps and another one to cc ads
All psykers, generally.
Ahem
you lads doing twins?
Unlike that one guy I actually know how to use psyker
Ye
Fine. Most psykers.
hardmode or regular
Hard
can't have everyone focusing the bosses
Me frag grenade
Yes ik
Maybe work
have one do elite, one do trash mobs, and two do the bosses
I got my bells
4 on boss, mobs are a myth
So do I
that's how I did mine
Exactly.
Precomp
Ah
Took me 2 months but I finally got it
Sorry I don't speak algebra
That’s just wrong
sorry bruv
Np
I can kinda read it.
I ion know what you speak
I have one question.
I speak a little Ukranian so some of it looks familiar.
yea we don't have much slavs here yea
I onky know one language.
The universal language.
Violence
they usually hang around their own place
What about faith?
is one chainaxe mark better?
I think they have a VK or a telegram for it
That's not a language it's action
As you may know actions speak louder than words
And violence... isn't?
no
I think I might have comprehension issue with sapper shovels, I don't understand why you'd ever want to have it over old shovel
IV chainaxe will shred on light
I’m 360 plasteel away from my 500 Bistol
XII will shred on heavy
you can run XII with slaughterer/thrust for a crusher one shot
but other than that I psersonally reccomend IV for generalist
cool, thanks
As soon as a person speaking Cyrillic, everyone immediately became alarmed🌚
My eloquent phrases are graceful strides with a blade in hand, and speak a solilloquey of his mercy as i become a whirlwind of blood and steel
It usually means something bad is about to happen
I’m just racist towards Slavs (joking)
Beautiful. But well beyond my lowly scope. I just shoot heretics.
kharn fan?
Sigi better
Dunno who that is but I'm BIG Es biggest fan
Let’s be honest with ourselves, TTS made us all hate I, Cato Sicarius, knight champion of mcragge.
Except for me
Cato ain't that bad
Cuz I haven't seen it
I will not force you to drink vodka and shout ura suka blyat'
I just don't like him replacing titus
It’s great
That's the bad thing we're worried about.
Emperor has a tts device got shut down by GW sadly
So that's my question. Why are the grimoires, when I pick them up, not counted after the end of the mission?
I only drink the finest holy promethium
I always hated Cato sicarius.
Interesting
I relate to that guardsman way too much
I'm the kind of person who doesn't drink alcohol at all
@distant phoenix @oblique totem we ready to go?
Always ready
What kinda slav are you
I don’t drink either, all tastes like piss to me
That's like... what kinda cow doesn't produce milk
The German part of me hates that
Even boy cows can be milked
Playboy, philanthropist, genius🌚
Thats beer
Liquor is the good shit
Like whiskeys or tequila
Even wine and vodka, whiskey is meh, tequila is alright I guess
The Codex Astartes does not support this action.
Leandros milks boy cows wym
but I am excited to try it
So what about my question that I described above?
Milking boy cows?
I don't Iike wine too much
Too bitter
I’m not legally required to answer that
It's okay the commissar ain't around
Is a recon las with infernus and headhunter good?
But what if they are
All guardsmens
FOR CADIA
We ball!
For Cadia
For Armageddon!
Ready
And Cadia I guess
Esketit
I was born on catachan but I got cadian spirit!
I will die on Armageddon.
I was born on cadia but spent a lot of time on armageddon.
For Yarrick! For Creed! For the Imperium!
You will die when the Emperor says you die
Only in death does duty end
Nah
Only in death does duty end.
All i'm seeing in this chat
Except it doesn't end there
Is a bunch of little pre-servitors.
Corpse starch can: even in death, I’m still served
I would send you a meme about the emperor, I'm afraid I'll be banned and declared a heresy

do you guys like the mk6 power sword for the poke or mk3 for the sweep
Lmao

So much for wearing a gasmask
Welp
That definitely happened
Me too, actually
I’m semi stacked on diamantine, just not plasteel
i thought i was gonna need more resources than i did
turns out just hogging EVERYTHING and never deleting a weapon paid off big
I find myself going down to just normal chaff with the powersword in auric damn/mal whats the ideal attack pattern? any tip?
mk6 has a sweep too.
you got brutal momentum on it?
spam lmb, abuse block cancel, slide sometimes
yes brut momentum and power cycler
and which one
mk6
yeah special light light light repeating, throw in a push before you charge
they're kinda slow so consider attack speed and stay defensive with your dodges
Iv just been charge, swing,swing,swing repeate no pushes relying on dodges to keep me up but thats obviously not working im just used to chainsword
yea the dodges on it are kinda bad
Are you block canceling?
It mitigates some of the vulnerability
Charge and then block immediately
Block comes up fast, and mk6 is good at blocking
Then start swinging again
in grinder rn I see what you mean. So Charge>block;push>swing>swing>swing Charge>block;push>swing>swing>swin
ye
or push before, or after, w/e really
you just wanna cover that one vulnerability window when ur chargin the spesh
ngl i don't even really push, but i should prob do that more often lol
good blessings for helbore?
Doing a push when your dodges are low gives you a nice window of safety to recover your dodges without getting whacked
does Covering Fire apply to me if I kill an enemy close to me?
The tards over at 4chan claim that its better not to max vet keystones and instead invest the points into later nodes of the skill tree is this true
if you can make the build work anything can be good really
Got error code
So many ragers
I dont use keystones amd I do just fine
OG, back in my day we ain't had no fancy shmancy keystones
hell whent eh rework came out vet had NO keystones
Thats what I mean lol
The omnissiah disapproves
What’s the best knife?
Gonna be a minute before I can hop back on
The one that goes "Gish Gash, Cut a hole in ya ass!"
The mk III is puncture? So overhead swipes and stuff? Me want
You can do it with mk6 too
Yeah, I’ll test both
Punch> heavy 3
Block, jab, heavy, repeat
is collateral the right dump stat for boltguns? or is it mobility
Bomility
I think that the next chest piece added should be a commissars jacket with an ork power claw for a left hand, just saying
Aaaaand Windows updates hit. It was fun while it lasted.
Lmao
Always love killing heretics with da bois.
Of course you're playing Nuln.
:3
But yeah, that death count is insane how'd you manage that?
just captured a settlement and huh usually garrison at that first turn is basically non-existant so i guess it bugged out
they didnt get hurt or anything they showed up late for the battle
Clearly. They lost more than the population of the entire world in that battle.
am I dumb? why cant I replace deathspitter with scattershot? I already own the blessing in the mastery menu
im fairly certain it was a negative value or soemthing like that so it switched it to lik highest possible idfk
Brunt gave me a full 1 percent extra to mobility
Darktide really doesn't want us to play together
figured it out, just server desync or something
It made me pick my character again (I haven’t used the psykanium since I first used the bolt pistol )
So idk if it does that
are BM + power cycler still the defacto PS blessings?
what are good bolter blessings for vet?
why are they all red and the same charm,,
i guess someone has a type
I use power cycler and sunder on my mk3
What type is that?
Ah, of course.
The legendary 0 mobility Bistol
The color red...
The boat anchor ⚓
Bolt anchor... I'll see myself out
I swear it's easier to find these weapons now
The cosmetic you get from the recquisition
It changes the appearance to that of the basic lasgun
But red
no ik but why all them red,,,
red is cool
Red is the color of the Inquisition
Actually I think it's a warm color.
And the level 20 mastery cosmetic is also red
i prefer to put mine in the fridge for an hour before eating
gives a nice crunchy texture
Remembering I have free will and I don't have to master weapons I don't like using (Dueling Sword)
Heresy
I just don't like it
I'd say you probably shouldn't do that but, honestly, that's probably the least concerning thing within your fridge.
Also Darktide is actively preventing me from accessing the meta again by refusing to give me a perfect revolver for 47 consecutive rolls
use the chad fanfire revolver instead
I got no revolver
Only leveling the 🅱️istol now
All my robes are red so that ppl can't see all the heretic blood stains
Isn't that the opposite of what you want though?
Also don't these heretics bleed green?
I dont have time to wash em
Time better spent killing more heretics
Even tyranids bleed red
I have no further questions.
He gave me TWO whole percent on this one!
I'm still gonna scrap it tho
Oh here's another
Going thru and spring cleaning my vet rn
whats the dump stat on sapper shovel
there's a pinned message with a ms word link to an updated vet guide that includes blessings and dump stats for all weapons
sick ty
so this would be the dump stat correct?
correct
Kinda weird that the discrepancy between different max level weapons is a full 3%
dump stat on knife?
Mobility
drip on point?
Anyone got a build for the kantrael?
You have to specify what gun it is, there's a bunch with that label
Lasgun, I mean
real quick knife blessings?
There's 3 kantrael ilas, a kantrael shotgun, a kantrael laspistol
And even different marks of the same family have different considerations
i want that set the chestpiece is from
due to breakpoint differences
I want to stick as close to “default guardsman” loadout as i can lol
The lasgun formerly known as the 1a is generally considered the best ilas
It's the medium fire rate version
Pretty sure this is the one I have laying around
VI and VII got multiplied by 2
II became c
It's the Recon mk XII now
has the power sword been inconsistent for anyone lately?
just played a game and I'd do the special activation but my attacks wouldn't be powered
kinda frustrating ngl especially vs ragers lol
Yeah happens to me too
thought i was crazy
I thought I was getting punched out of it or sumn
welp glad to hear I'm not the only one
This is why you don't run the sleepy sword
But then you’d have to have enemies alive for more than 1 second, can’t have that 
There are other ways to enforce that that do not put me to sleep
Hehe
Me when I when me when i:
Maybe if your tired ypu shouldn't stay up all night.
Go to bed at a reasonable time like a good boy. C:
I can and have played darktide on zero sleep
Okay so now any weapon can be any 'mark' type
My point still stands
Howdy folks, what are the main priorities (besides damage) on a Helbore Lasgun? I have a couple rolls with 80s in everything and a 60 in one stat.
How do I unlock level 2 of a blessing?
also no I am not doing anything like a good boy, I infact strive not too
I did 40 hours straight
Ammo
Adepta Maternitas has spoken.
Always take shock trooper on hellbores
You are a good boy if I say you are
Good girl
If you dont take shock trooper I will personally berate you till you do it
Have you picked up on any of the numerous context clues or are you unrealistically dense
Good gremlin
40 hours straight of DT or just nearly 2 days of no sleep and said fuck it we ball and played DT
What is least important, charge or stability?
No, I am simply adamant
Talking to a smyker btw
I know they are an eepy build user
40 hours straight
Bro shut up about the smyker I literally play everything else more
I was on a 70 mission win streak
Lmao
Thought I’d keep going
open the inventory/operative menu and go to the tab on top that says mastery. you unlock blessings through there, and you get them through mastery points (weapon exp from use or sacrifices)
you need to unlock enough t1 blessings before you can get t2s, as shwon buy the skull circle icon
Thank you very much I understnad
Plasma powersword user
Holy fuck your commitment to this game man
Go shower before you tell me about smyker 💀
I was once a plasma PS VoC user but then I realized I was nuking any fun I could have from orbit and stopped
You waste two point because you can’t stop going down on zealot
I'm still having fun with it idc
I reached 181 on knife zealot
My power fantasy is the fun part

also, why look like john cadia when I can
Jane Cadia
hat gang
Hell yeah same hat
I wonder what I could reach on zealot now
Probably 230
Fuck sized scope Dbarrel my beloved
Hadron is punching the air right now.
(it doesn't work but its goofy as hell and I love it)
gotta get that passive +4 stability
i can always make it worse
Shave that fucking stock
i gotta download scoreboard, i gotta see if it's me that's playing absolutely terrible in auric maelstrom or if we're all playing terrible. I just gotta know lol
Can't
Also they updated Extended Weapons Customization?
No sawed stocks on my version
cause ive been rocking Vanilla till they updated it
add the doom eternal bayoents
I'm using a version from before this update
Still works just fine
The silly red skins don't work but I don't care that much
Oh, noted
gonna check if they did
if they didn't im honestly going to hop on my friends MC server before I sleep for my new job tomorrow
latest update was ~2 weeks ago to do some optimizations
They've a version from 2 days ago in their channel in the modding server
that’s a repost because he forgot to pin it
Damn
Dawg I got OHKO'd by a crusher after it died
What'd be better for las heavy pistol, 1 or 2nd?
If you don't mind I could make a better build for you if you want
This would make it alot more ammo efficient since it would build for crit
Is gameslantern down for anyone else?
Yup, just looked
Thx
Hehehehehe
Hate
2% BETTER THAN YOUUUUU AHHHEHEHEHEHEHE
I mean the blessings
are ass
That 2 percent is the result of several rounding errors
The blessings and the mark
Mk1 makes me sad
I just played a match with a Vet that i can only assume was a weapon specialist
They absolutely deleted everything with PS and Revolver lmao
Also fact that they were using ps revolver
PS revolver is just plain OP you don't even need any keystones
I thought PS was supposed to have bad mobility but this person was fucking flying as fast as my knife vet lol
does the lasgun ammo perk still have the hidden cooldown?
Weakest of them all
It also looks terrible
Eughhhh I hated that
And they had to go an do the same with scavenger
I'm usually good on ammo, rarerly ran out of it as it is
That build has a bit more crit for more burn stacks aswell
but for the 2 you showed
I always wear my lucky ammo totem. No matter what I always miraculously find ammo when I need it, so long as I have it on
removed it like 6 months ago
I would choose 2
thanks
did melk bring me a winner?

It's literally cosmetic at this point, all I have to do is got to the marks tab and
Dumped CC is big oof
He gave you something to sacrifice for xp
damn, cc that important? the pinned WIP doc says its fine as long as its above like 26%
I wouldn't dump it either way
that's a good question for @tall torrent because i also never dumped CC on smaul
another quick question because im returning after a decently long break, the new potential system... is this what im looking for? i can eventually raise all of these stats to their max potential right? is this ideally what im looking for in a revo?
itll cost me some currency i get it but as long as i can farm toward a perfect-ish gun, that would be really sweet
Looking at about 72000 dockets in upgrades or so right there (might be horribly wrong) but it will cost infinitely more to find something with those stats nat rolled
It never, not once, had an icd. It was people confusing it not working on the string crits for recon as being an icd.
+plasteel and diamantine
ive got a ton of resources so no biggie there, i'm just so used to rolling at brunt and seeing 2 numbers is jarring, despite reading the fatshark page on the new system lmao
It’s not that big of a deal yea
just wanted to make sure i dont only have to choose like a few of those stats to raise, i can eventually get them all to 80 except mobility
Anyone having a problem with the event not tracking
ya love the chestpiece, the other set pieces dont look great with it tho but the chest piece is great, was able to find other pants that match which worked out nicely
you gotta do it on maps with the special mission type
or it doesnt count
what does the hive mind think of the dueling sword
should i level the infantry lasgun or helbore
do you like charged weapons? hellbore
decided to go with infantry cause helbore has a long animation
i can only begin to imagine how long it would have taken me to grind this out. how did we tolerate the previous system for so long?
Most people didn't tolerate it and so they left 
That's why the game has around the same playerbase count as vt2
Despite being in a massively more popular IP and including guns
I'm very tempted to go back and play Vermintide 2 again
but I feel like I won't remember anything
besides Bardin
I'd never forget that beautiful dwarf
wats the infantry lasgun dump stat
my max mobility was at 60%, i empowered and it went down to 57%, wtf just happened?
swedish math. it’s a known issue and they’re investigating it
ah ok
It’ll prob be fine dw
I'm praying to the machine spirits
😂
basically if it goes right, i can fire 8 shots without overheating right?
Grenadier build is so much fun
whats the dumpstat for recon lasgun, Collateral since its already low stagger?
Collateral is the dump on every gun with it
Unless you want to hit the ultra specific bulwark open in 1 shot BP with bolter on vet
what's the build?
uhhh, what's the mod that let's you show off the entire talent tree?
thanks collateral it is then. mobility might be better higher to dodge while shoot
👏
Here you go! Now keep in mind, i'm using a mercy killler knife which is why i'm running serrated blade, if you run any other melee weapon that isn't the knife, just take the 10% rending by the keystone. It'll make your bolt pistol hit even harder.
ty
Also i'm aware my Bistol isn't god statted, i just can't me assed to roll for a new one lmao
I have a very bold knife build

No uncanny
Cope by taking exploit weakness
(It somehow works)
How does...brittleness work compared to rending?
I supposed brittleness strips armor
versus rending just gaining more pen?
They do the same thing but rending is a buff and brittleness is a debuff
Same thing different application
This is a knife without uncanny strike
Meaning brittleness needs to be restacked on everything but benefits teammates
But rending sticks after targets (in the case of uncanny)
damn 💀
how's the dueling sword on vet? anyone tried building around it yet?
got a decent MKIV in my shop, considering picking it up
Extremely strong single target
Abysmal horde clear
High mobility & safety
That's why i prefer mk II, better horde clear but you still get the H1 stab of the mk IV
Dude, i always see some of the coolest looking characters when i'm chilling in the Mourningstar
But then i get in game and i get every version of homeless imaginable
Some people prefer the "We are hobo prisoners" theme where we don't get good gear for our absolutely godlike horde and mission clearing results 🤷♂️
I like to think, that unlike the Zealot. My Veteran is ACTUALLY too angry to die
Something something, Cadia
I just use the light Cadian Armor
I usually go with unyielding + crit chance & infernus + dumdum for good all-rounder with solid monster damage (melee and kraks handle armored targets)
Should i put more focus on stam regen or sprint cost reduction for curios?
3x sprint efficiency is a special kind of QoL u have to try it
Totally up to your own preferences imo, if you feel like you're lacking on something then go with that
If curio stamina regen affected stamina regen delay I’d run it more
But it’s only regen rate
It would indeed be a nice addition for curio selection to get a little shorter stamina regen delay
I feel like i'm still too reliant on PA with the combat blade which is why i'm hesitant on swapping Stam Regen for Sprint cost reduction
I FEEL like im mulching hordes in auric mal so much better with the powersword but im dyeing way more then I do with the chiansword
