#veteran-class

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true jackal
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at least one mk out of a bunch will work pretty easily

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guns tho, afaik most the middle ground mks are still kinda crap

frank ether
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weapons that have weaknesses are more interesting than ones that don't

trim steppe
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Naw pretty much all guns are viable too.

true jackal
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though I have no idea what mks are good and which aren't anymore

frank ether
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rashad is everything wrong with game design

trim steppe
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The recons were sitting at the bottom of the list but got some love

true jackal
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it's weaknesses where mainly usability which didn't help

frank ether
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boltgun still has the same problems, they haven't fixed it, they just slapped a massive bandaid fix that basically makes it impossible to miss with it.

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I take boltpistol for a spin and hit so many shots that would have missed with a laspistol

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all the while aiming for center mass

true jackal
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I feel that

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love me laspistol, but damn I actually have to aim at heads properly

pseudo fiber
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this is a different game with no screenshake what in the fuck

trim steppe
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Did they reduce the projectile size of the revolver shots?

true jackal
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not this last patch afaik

trim steppe
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I was missing way more with it but I wasn't sure if it was a mechanical issue or a server communication issue

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Yeah it's been dicey

tall torrent
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Cleave target dump

native furnace
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This is interesting (very late to reading it). So the goal is basically just uncharged spam to get a couple of shots off? Elites gives the breakpoints on most, flak gets you the gunners?

native furnace
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Used to be you could do charged to body crushers and the like, seems like that's fallen to the wayside for plasmas.

tall torrent
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Man I want that Sitgryn

native furnace
pseudo fiber
tall torrent
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Ur welcome thumbsup_ogryn

pseudo fiber
tall torrent
vestal widget
pliant prawn
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ok i got the penance done i just had to complain about it in vet chat first

tall torrent
trim steppe
tall torrent
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Unarmored: Dreg gunner 1HS without superiority complex, Dreg Tox bomber 1 bodyshot
Elite: Dreg gunner 1HS with superiority complex, boosts damage vs other elites
Flak: scab gunner 1 bodyshot, scab mauler 2 bodyshot (1 crit) higher consistency
Maniac: Dreg rager 1HS, both flamers 1 bodyshot

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For plasma

pliant prawn
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if you're just spamming uncharged shots wouldn't charge rate be the dump stat?

tall torrent
pliant prawn
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donk oh

trim steppe
pliant prawn
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that's misleading

vestal widget
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elite with superiority complex also gets you both shotgunner 1 shot bodyshot as well i think, don't remember any other notable ones

trim steppe
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They gun charges up before every shot, there's just a minimum and a maximum, and if you only left click it always does minimum charge

vestal widget
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i remember when ppl were rolling plasma to get 73 charge rate specifically

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because otherwise the plasma gun did less damage

trim steppe
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Yeah charge rate used to effect the damage profile, now it's just fire rate

tribal pelican
pliant prawn
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unrelated question but what is the playstyle of right-side-of-tree veteran? kinda seems like a loner zealot but idk

vestal widget
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it's just vet but you do all the team stuff basically

pliant prawn
vestal widget
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since most stealth vets i've met run low profile

tall torrent
pliant prawn
vestal widget
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yeah, just hope your teammates don't stand on top of you to "defend" you lol

pliant prawn
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take out a priority target amidst a horde maybe?

tall torrent
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That’s every class’ job

pliant prawn
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or just leave them to do everything and run away tf

vestal widget
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the other usage is that it suppresses everything on dropping stealth and if you have low profile you just get to dps for a while

terse idol
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You'd have to be at 60% I thiiink for it to feel different

vestal widget
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cos everything ignores you and gunners/shooters suppressed

terse idol
vestal widget
trim steppe
vestal widget
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same for flamer/crusher etc

terse idol
vestal widget
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my stack has a running joke every time that kinda shit happens to a stealth vet

terse idol
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Preemptive dodge when you hear a sniper shot, Preemptive dodge when you hear a trapper

pliant prawn
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hmm ty im gonna just copypaste a right-side tree build cuz it seems like the one i understand the least

tall torrent
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It’s noticeable

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U can play with a charge rate dump

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It just won’t feel as good

pseudo fiber
native furnace
south garnet
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what do you guys take as far as your curios and curio perks

tall torrent
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And u can’t 1 tap Dreg ragers without crit headshot

native furnace
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Oh hell. Okay, so body-shots, you basically need to play out maniac.

tall torrent
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That’s pretty much it

native furnace
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But flak, you gain ragers and gunners

trim steppe
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1 HP, 1 toughness, 1 stam

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Usually, anyway

tall torrent
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I play unarmored + flak

native furnace
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Unarmoured gets you additional gunners and headshots, I assume?

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I'm really out of the loop. I was big on the plasma charged crusher on-shots way back.

tall torrent
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I think Tox bomber 1 bodyshot is a huge breakpoint actually cuz this guy fucks things up hard

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He has to die first

terse idol
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what perks should I get with the bistol?

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For a grenadier™️ build?

tall torrent
trim steppe
terse idol
tall torrent
native furnace
tall torrent
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But I like unarmored more because:
tox bomber gets to die easier
Free up 2 points for other talents

vestal widget
# pliant prawn hmm ty im gonna just copypaste a right-side tree build cuz it seems like the one...

here are the bones of a build; you have some more points to play with.

can swap out for blood for or additionally take close order drill/confirmed kill if you want extremely large amounts of regen,
can swap for kraks
take fully loaded/superiority complex if your weps needs the breakpoints
always prepared good if you have a revolver/shotgun/etc that's a pain in the ass to reload or just want the qol if you're hotswapping all the time (as agile engagement and weapon spec incentivizes)

pliant prawn
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oo, i like this. was looking at another build and there was a lot of grenade focus, but using not-smoke grenade

trim steppe
pliant prawn
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my other builds use not smoke so this looks good

vestal widget
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disclaimer: i usually take kraks instead and just use them on bulwark packs because i hate fighting them and demo team recharge is usually enough to recharge in between bulwark packs/crusher packs/bosses

tall torrent
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I don’t like plasma with WS

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WS’s ranged weapon atk speed buff throws me off

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I don’t like variable firerate on my precision single shot guns

pliant prawn
south garnet
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what's dumpstat on bolt pistol anyway

vestal widget
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collat

pliant prawn
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i think im gonna run +aura radius just until i get that obnoxious penance done where i have to run 2384923 kilometres with the team or whatever

trim steppe
vestal widget
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longshot can hit some BPs but more rarely now since it got nerfed

tall torrent
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+0.6% damage at 13m

trim steppe
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Boooooo

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Ok

slow spade
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I am the Emperor's BEST killer 💪

pliant prawn
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lol who is this guy

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ur fodder like the rest of us

tall torrent
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Top left starting branch is basically turbo ass

pliant prawn
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+20% ranged base damage is ass?

tall torrent
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U mean longshot?

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+0.6% damage vs enemy 13m away

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Is there a scenario where that’s not ass

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Why take Longshot when u could take the 7 other ranged-related damage nodes

somber axle
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The other stuff is more impactful

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Longshot's damage bonus doesn't properly come into play until ranges you rarely find yourself fighting at

tall torrent
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Longshot - bad
Exhilarating takedown - situationally ok
Volley adept - ok (but not as good as tactical reload tbh)
5% health - whatever, u could just take 5% health below krak

pliant prawn
somber axle
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I really want to like Exhil Takedown though

trim steppe
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Remember when Exhilarating Takedown caused you to take MORE damage? Lmfao

pliant prawn
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also further down the right side tree, +25 toughness over Exploit Weakness? The latter seems like it could be good for tankier targets that somehow survive crits maybe? or nah

native furnace
pliant prawn
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those are my last questions i promise

tall torrent
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And maybe Tac axe

trim steppe
pliant prawn
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ewww precision weapon without uncanny

vestal widget
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things die before you crit them a bunch of times

pliant prawn
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i would never

vestal widget
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basically

pliant prawn
tall torrent
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25 Toughness is always good
I’m considering a riposte + flesh tearer knife build for the memes

frank ether
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tried the uncanny lacerate meme on gunker

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was pretty busted

tall torrent
pliant prawn
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stormbringer i know ur writing an essay but i assume the final 3 points are just flex slots? ty for the help btw lol i guess i lied about having one last question

vestal widget
# pliant prawn what sort of weapons would you recommend for this? probably something finesse fo...

something fast swap is good

revolver is a classic because you can take always prepared below weapn spec which, if you kill 1 enemy in with melee in between each shot, will reload 1 bullet every time you switch. you can use this to have a revolver with dumped reload and maxed mobility and never hand-reload (most efficient way to reload is to kill enemy -> switch to ranged -> switched back, kill again) with an effective [your ammo capacity] sized mag. so if you quickswap in between kills you can reload your whole mag off 5 enemies.

but it isn't great for maximizing agile because shooting every ten seconds or so for a ranged kill to be able to get melee buffs is heavy on the ammo use.

laspistol or other weps like that where you can shoot a horde goober to maintain agile/weapon spec after the buffs run out work good. a laspistol with dumped stability and maxed mobility is also a decent mobility stick if you take a slower melee wep

or weapons that crit really well and can abuse the guaranteed crit from weapon spec (so things like manstopper shotguns, revolver, etc).

generically strong weapons like vraks autogun are good too; it crits well, the crit from weapon spec is just okay for an auto wep but its crit strings benefits heavily from reciprocity crit stacking a bit higher in that subtree, and the 5% crit node above infiltrate.

pliant prawn
native furnace
vestal widget
tall torrent
vestal widget
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since revolver with an almost bottomless ammo pool lets you get a ton of elite kills first

native furnace
tall torrent
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Melee is always my go-to for carapace damage

vestal widget
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these days there are a lot of crusher one shot deletes

pliant prawn
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hmm

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lots to consider

spare pond
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duelling sword

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what would you recommend

native furnace
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Is Grenade Tinkerer a "must take" for Kark builds? Are Karks even considered particularly useful?

south garnet
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what are the go-to helbore perks/blessings nowadays

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also the marks look different, i have no idea what these are lol

pearl sapphire
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Da current build

tough flower
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I love a good no capstone build ngl

ocean heron
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imo the white clothes you get from commissary are DRIPPY AS FUCK

tough flower
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Vet just flat out doesn't need one

scenic merlin
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can i miss any shot at all for the killshot uniform?

tall torrent
tough flower
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90% accuracy

south garnet
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I dont think any of my builds have capstones except for one just because it was right there which is the mark ability

tough flower
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I did it with the double-barrel

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Just dump it into crowds and mostly melee

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Took two tries, I think

native furnace
tall torrent
rocky jacinth
scenic merlin
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i left my last run cause a psyker nuked a crowd and made me miss a shot 😦

tough flower
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Nah, it's just 90% accuracy

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For a full ammo double-barrel you can miss like

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5~ shots

tall torrent
tough flower
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Without picking up ammo

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^ boss deleters

pearl sapphire
rocky jacinth
umbral scaffold
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Kraks are specialty nades

tall torrent
umbral scaffold
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They’re very good at a specific thing

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But I can kill a crusher in the time it takes for someone to throw a krak and for it to detonate with a psword or plasma gun

tall torrent
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U can casually hit 200k boss damage with kraks in monster maelstrom

native furnace
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They seem like a good supplement to plasma, given plasma is focused down on smaller mob one-shots

terse idol
umbral scaffold
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Yea for boss dmg it does that well

scenic merlin
umbral scaffold
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I feel my blood pressure spike when I see someone throw them at fucking maulers tho

tough flower
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What's max ammo?

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70ish, right?

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68?

scenic merlin
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87

tough flower
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So around 8 shots

scenic merlin
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hm shotgun or revolver

tough flower
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If you do miss only 8, and you're close to the end

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Just snag a small tin

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And don't miss again

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I actually did that when I got it with the shotgun

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Just to be safe

pearl sapphire
scenic merlin
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it's hard to not miss with teammates shooting at my targets as well

tough flower
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Sure

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I recommend shotgun tbh

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1 pellet just has to hit something

umbral scaffold
tough flower
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Hard to miss a whole horde

umbral scaffold
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Pack of maulers are easy to control

scenic merlin
tough flower
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Yes

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Just has to hit, not kill

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We're talking about Make Every Shot Count, yes?

scenic merlin
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for the killshot uniform

tough flower
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Just needs to be 90% accuracy, no ammo remaining if that's the one we're talking about

pliant prawn
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goddamnit i can't tell the difference between the helbore lasguns

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like some of them do ever so slightly more damage or what

heavy rover
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It's mostly about charge time and charged shot damage. although one of them has a different bayonet attack

pliant prawn
tall torrent
pliant prawn
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hmm ok

heavy rover
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unironically the IIIa and the V bayonet attack is one of the best melee attacks in the game

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it can stagger ragers out of their attack

tall torrent
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Used to be, now it’s meh

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It’s just good for lone rager & mutants

slow spade
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a shame the Mk4 never got the same love

tough flower
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I see what they were going for with that melee

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But it's just awful

pliant prawn
tawny badger
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Imagine if flamer explosions were on that poxburster type shit

terse idol
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Can't be too strong

vestal widget
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brutal momentum and limbsplitter on your melee wep used to apply to bayonet stabs lol

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with no limbsplitter cooldown

south garnet
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so, on helbore V, flak/maniac with new version of onslaught and brittle?

tall torrent
south garnet
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Interesting, I always thought for the light/quick helbore it's better to swap out surgical because of how frequently you're blasting

dreamy spade
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so easy to get max weapons now

tough flower
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Yeah the rolls are so much more forgiving.

dreamy spade
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I already have like 6 max weapons

pliant prawn
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how come brunts armory only has one mark of each weapon?

vast whale
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Because you can change marks at will now.

pliant prawn
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whuh???

vast whale
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So it makes no sense to display all of them.

pliant prawn
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how to change mark

vast whale
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Just pick what mark you want from the weapons list.

blissful cliff
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i can't wait for them to take rolling steel out of the QP queue

distant phoenix
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@umbral scaffold

pliant prawn
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ohhh that's so fuckin weird but cool

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thanks

distant phoenix
tall torrent
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I can’t wait for them to fix the RNG stat distribution to stop giving only 4x80+60s

umbral scaffold
distant phoenix
distant phoenix
vast whale
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Rolling Steel should be under operations, not QP.

distant phoenix
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Yiu get 274 toughness, hella tdr, and regen, on top of just deciding to be Danny phantom and going ghost whenever for full deaggro and tp refill

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Smoke helps get the enemies to kark off

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And plasma and sword are your kill anything sticks

pliant prawn
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oh shit we get a mode-swapping shovel like the ogryns??

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is it just as powerful

tough flower
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It's really good

distant phoenix
pliant prawn
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ive only ever used the ogryn one

distant phoenix
tough flower
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Wild stuff

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I'll have to try that

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But I love me stamina curio

distant phoenix
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Absolute tank unit

spare pond
distant phoenix
tough flower
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Amazing

ancient path
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are shotguns still a meme?

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i know sawed offs are pretty good but i hate the reload

distant phoenix
tall torrent
distant phoenix
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I like mah kantreal combat shotty

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Second only to my beloved plasmagun

tough flower
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Yeah weapon specialist is a meme with double-barrel

austere mica
tough flower
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Never reload ever

ancient path
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alright alright you guys convinced me

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time to try it out

austere mica
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Weapon spec is insane on double barrel

tough flower
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Just quick swap every once in a while

distant phoenix
austere mica
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My favorite build

ancient path
tough flower
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Doom reference

ancient path
austere mica
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stab 3 things with mk3 knife then unleash my infinite cleave and bleed

tough flower
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Stealth double barrel is absolutely nefarious ngl

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It's so much fun

distant phoenix
viral swallow
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anyone got some good damnation ready vet builds for a returning player to try out? Looks like the builds thread hasn't seen any activity in ages

orchid hemlock
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@tall torrent btw when is that zealot guide coming out?

distant phoenix
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LEONNN! HALLLPPPP

ancient path
tall torrent
ancient path
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its just auto gun, shout in the middle

ancient path
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take the talent that gives your friends melee buffs for shooting enemies

austere mica
viral swallow
tall torrent
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I’m done after veteran guide, not gonna attempt zealot guide

viral swallow
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But I see we have access to a lot more weapons now, and some of the talents are different

tribal pelican
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its wild that you can master a weapon in like a afternoon of running aurics

distant phoenix
tall torrent
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After dorn gets his guide out I’ll link his in my guide’s first page alongside the others @orchid hemlock

viral swallow
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I usually prefer playing shooty guard. I enjoyed Kantrael guard a lot when the game first came out, and I've been using quickdraw comissar since the talent rework.

tribal pelican
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when they annouced the system i was sure each weapon would be atleast a 50 hour grind

distant phoenix
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Why didnt I think of that lmao

austere mica
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Its super breezy

distant phoenix
distant phoenix
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Only cost me <10k plasteel for EVERYTHING done

tribal pelican
distant phoenix
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And I was able to sell the excess trash for 50k plasteel back

distant phoenix
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I have heavy swords left to do, my last 0 mastery

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I never use em

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I'll do it rn

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How do you want me to measure? Counting in # of anointed weapons ?

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I'll take a picture of starting mats then again afterwards and subtract ti see how much I spent

tribal pelican
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I would record starting mats, and dockets but also track the number of indevidual items needed

tribal pelican
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also some questions need to be asked first like is blue or green trade more efficent perplasteel

distant phoenix
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Wait actually

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Blue costs slightly more plasteel

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So yeah

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I'll see

tribal pelican
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just tested green is way more efficent

distant phoenix
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Well it also means you'll be spending more dockets if not

distant phoenix
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Stuck in fucking perma loading screen smh

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How are we gonna keep note of the results? Anyone wanna post it somewhere?

pearl sapphire
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I just got hard carried by a knife sneak zealot on damnation orthos and it’s got me questioning my classuality

distant phoenix
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It'll get lost in the chat overnight if we don't pin it somewhere safe

tribal pelican
pearl sapphire
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Honestly the knife alone seemed worth it for the speed

distant phoenix
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I'm trying to load back in but I just fucking crashed at operative select

tribal pelican
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well

distant phoenix
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The machine spirit is really trying to prevent me from obtaining this arcane knowledge

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Oh wow

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So the number is 35

tall torrent
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104~108

tribal pelican
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yup atleast according to genaricmysteryinternetman#38 and you know what they say, nobody on the internet has been wrong about anything ever before in the history of time

distant phoenix
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So around 350000 dockets and 3500 plasteel

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If I round down the average

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Maybe make it 400k and 4000

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Depending on the rating it varies

pearl sapphire
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Can someone send me a few pics of decent sneak vet talent tree

distant phoenix
distant phoenix
distant phoenix
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Lol

oblique totem
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Slowly upgrading all my weapons again.

pearl sapphire
oblique totem
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Love isn't real.

pearl sapphire
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Cease your heresy

distant phoenix
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For He has blessed you this day

oblique totem
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Blessed me with enemies and ammunition.

pearl sapphire
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Alright, I guess no one on Xbox is playing orthos on heresy

tame lodge
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More like

distant phoenix
scenic merlin
distant phoenix
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I'm on rn just doing some blessmaxxing

oblique totem
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In about thirty minutes I'll be online.

pearl sapphire
distant phoenix
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I'll finish up then I'll be ready

rustic sorrel
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how does agile engagement come into play with the helbore lasgun? does the bayonet count as a melee attack?

distant phoenix
scenic merlin
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whats the highest rating curio i can get

distant phoenix
scenic merlin
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gotcha

distant phoenix
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Just look out for 17% toughness, and 21% health ones

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Those are quite rare and are the max yiu can get

broken gazelle
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I can't live without ample Stamina myself

pearl sapphire
distant phoenix
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I cant wait to show Rinda my Burgle's Toothbrush

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I think she'll love it

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That's what I would name this bad boi if I could

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Karkin thing eats crushers like ogryns eat kraks

broken gazelle
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I should come up with a name for my shovel.
The Doomspoon comes to mind.

ancient path
ancient path
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though, honest question, why not dueling sword?

austere mica
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Speed

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I also like knife more

ancient path
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yeah thats fair

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i was going so fast i tripped over a daemonhost

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tfw

distant phoenix
austere mica
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Knife heavies give +30% speed

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shush

distant phoenix
ancient path
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i want to try it with a dueling sword because knife, while fun, has me feeling like

broken gazelle
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I can't live without my shovel going 'spang'.

austere mica
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Knife just has better light attack damage in my experience as well

distant phoenix
austere mica
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makes it way easier to stack weapon spec without thinking

ancient path
ancient path
broken gazelle
ancient path
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whats the blessings i should shoot for with dueling sword?

distant phoenix
sleek garden
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why do power swords feel so bad without power cycler

distant phoenix
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Uncanny strike

sleek garden
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it honestly really sucks taking 5 light attacks to the head of a scab bruiser

sleek garden
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they have no cleave and no damage

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that immediately jumps to overkill

distant phoenix
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Wish it was more like sm2s powersword

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Needs a rework

pearl sapphire
broken gazelle
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my shovel has Decimator and Take a Swing for now. Might look into swapping it.

distant phoenix
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Toggle between hordeclear and single target

pearl sapphire
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Never used the knife before and it feels good

pseudo fiber
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reposte to uncanny live happy

sleek garden
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Gonna put unarmoured, sunder and block damage reduction on it

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i really want to make it work without power cycler

ancient path
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alrightie

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ill see about getting some uhhh

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sacrficies going

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i have so much mats now

distant phoenix
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But for the standard mk1 I have

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Decimator amd skullcrusher

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The mk7 with that build and carapace perk I can one shot crushers as a vet

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With the right build

sleek garden
broken gazelle
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I use MkVII so maybe Limbsplitter would be nice to have.

distant phoenix
distant phoenix
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With thrust

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Guaranteed mutie amd rager breakpoints

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Take maniac and carapace perks on it

pearl sapphire
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@distant phoenix heresy or damnation, I’ll let you pick

distant phoenix
oblique totem
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I'm in

distant phoenix
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I only care about diamantine gainz

pearl sapphire
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(B)e (W)all

scenic merlin
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just realized i could change the mk of my weapons

pearl sapphire
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(W)e (B)all

oblique totem
pearl sapphire
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I just found that out yesterday after mastering the DC, don’t feel bad

pearl sapphire
distant phoenix
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He can still join

oblique totem
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Yeah

distant phoenix
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Well try the secret hard mode after this

pearl sapphire
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It’s that type of crossplay? Ok

distant phoenix
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And inv him

pearl sapphire
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Calm down with the chance Kharn

oblique totem
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The Emperor gives his hardest battles to his greatest warriors.

steep vault
#

wake up in the morning feeling like p diddy

#

what is up gang

#

passed out while making my lunch

#

almost burnt myself alive

distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

Idk

distant phoenix
#

Smite ain't doin shit

pearl sapphire
#

I wasn’t paying attention to my health tho so that’s kinda on me

#

I’ll brb, see if you can get him in here

distant phoenix
#

I can pop their shield but imma need one of youze to do the dps and another one to cc ads

oblique totem
distant phoenix
steep vault
#

you lads doing twins?

distant phoenix
#

Unlike that one guy I actually know how to use psyker

distant phoenix
oblique totem
steep vault
distant phoenix
steep vault
slow spade
pearl sapphire
distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

Maybe work

steep vault
#

have one do elite, one do trash mobs, and two do the bosses

distant phoenix
#

I got my bells

slow spade
#

4 on boss, mobs are a myth

pearl sapphire
#

So do I

steep vault
#

that's how I did mine

distant phoenix
#

Orthus champion

steep vault
#

precomp or random

oblique totem
distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

Ah

distant phoenix
#

Took me 2 months but I finally got it

wintry hare
#

Доброе утро, видать тут славян не ма 🌚

#

Good morning

distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

That’s just wrong

wintry hare
#

Np

oblique totem
#

I can kinda read it.

steep vault
#

I ion know what you speak

wintry hare
#

I have one question.

steep vault
#

lemme bust the translate out

#

ahhhh

oblique totem
#

I speak a little Ukranian so some of it looks familiar.

steep vault
#

yea we don't have much slavs here yea

distant phoenix
steep vault
#

they usually hang around their own place

oblique totem
broken terrace
#

is one chainaxe mark better?

steep vault
#

I think they have a VK or a telegram for it

distant phoenix
#

As you may know actions speak louder than words

oblique totem
steep vault
frank ether
#

I think I might have comprehension issue with sapper shovels, I don't understand why you'd ever want to have it over old shovel

steep vault
#

IV chainaxe will shred on light

pearl sapphire
#

I’m 360 plasteel away from my 500 Bistol

steep vault
#

XII will shred on heavy

#

you can run XII with slaughterer/thrust for a crusher one shot

#

but other than that I psersonally reccomend IV for generalist

broken terrace
#

cool, thanks

wintry hare
#

As soon as a person speaking Cyrillic, everyone immediately became alarmed🌚

distant phoenix
oblique totem
pearl sapphire
#

I’m just racist towards Slavs (joking)

oblique totem
pearl sapphire
#

Sigi better

distant phoenix
steep vault
#

let's be honest with ourselves

pearl sapphire
#

Let’s be honest with ourselves, TTS made us all hate I, Cato Sicarius, knight champion of mcragge.

distant phoenix
#

Cuz I haven't seen it

wintry hare
steep vault
#

I just don't like him replacing titus

pearl sapphire
oblique totem
pearl sapphire
#

Emperor has a tts device got shut down by GW sadly

wintry hare
#

So that's my question. Why are the grimoires, when I pick them up, not counted after the end of the mission?

distant phoenix
#

I only drink the finest holy promethium

oblique totem
#

I always hated Cato sicarius.

distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

Interesting

oblique totem
wintry hare
pearl sapphire
#

@distant phoenix @oblique totem we ready to go?

distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

I don’t drink either, all tastes like piss to me

distant phoenix
#

That's like... what kinda cow doesn't produce milk

pearl sapphire
#

The German part of me hates that

distant phoenix
#

Even boy cows can be milked

wintry hare
distant phoenix
#

Liquor is the good shit

#

Like whiskeys or tequila

pearl sapphire
blissful cliff
distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

but I am excited to try it

wintry hare
#

So what about my question that I described above?

distant phoenix
distant phoenix
#

Too bitter

pearl sapphire
#

I’m not legally required to answer that

distant phoenix
thorny gorge
#

Is a recon las with infernus and headhunter good?

pearl sapphire
distant phoenix
#

FOR CADIA

pearl sapphire
#

We ball!

oblique totem
pearl sapphire
distant phoenix
#

Ready

pearl sapphire
#

And Cadia I guess

distant phoenix
#

Esketit

distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

I will die on Armageddon.

oblique totem
#

I was born on cadia but spent a lot of time on armageddon.

pearl sapphire
#

For Yarrick! For Creed! For the Imperium!

distant phoenix
#

Only in death does duty end

blissful cliff
#

Nah

pearl sapphire
#

Only in death does duty end.

blissful cliff
#

All i'm seeing in this chat

distant phoenix
#

Except it doesn't end there

blissful cliff
#

Is a bunch of little pre-servitors.

distant phoenix
#

You will become corpse starch

#

Even in death I'm served

pearl sapphire
#

Corpse starch can: even in death, I’m still served

wintry hare
#

I would send you a meme about the emperor, I'm afraid I'll be banned and declared a heresy

broken gazelle
scenic merlin
#

do you guys like the mk6 power sword for the poke or mk3 for the sweep

distant phoenix
#

Instakilled by fartbombs

#

Lol

pearl sapphire
#

Lmao

broken gazelle
distant phoenix
#

So much for wearing a gasmask

oblique totem
#

Welp

pearl sapphire
#

That definitely happened

distant phoenix
#

Alright zog dis

#

I need diamantine

oblique totem
#

Me too, actually

pearl sapphire
#

I’m semi stacked on diamantine, just not plasteel

hearty panther
#

i thought i was gonna need more resources than i did

#

turns out just hogging EVERYTHING and never deleting a weapon paid off big

tribal pelican
#

I find myself going down to just normal chaff with the powersword in auric damn/mal whats the ideal attack pattern? any tip?

hearty panther
hollow ibex
tribal pelican
hearty panther
#

and which one

tribal pelican
#

mk6

hearty panther
#

yeah special light light light repeating, throw in a push before you charge

#

they're kinda slow so consider attack speed and stay defensive with your dodges

tribal pelican
hearty panther
#

yea the dodges on it are kinda bad

tribal pelican
#

*tech

hollow ibex
#

It mitigates some of the vulnerability

#

Charge and then block immediately

#

Block comes up fast, and mk6 is good at blocking

#

Then start swinging again

tribal pelican
#

in grinder rn I see what you mean. So Charge>block;push>swing>swing>swing Charge>block;push>swing>swing>swin

hearty panther
#

ye

#

or push before, or after, w/e really

#

you just wanna cover that one vulnerability window when ur chargin the spesh

hollow ibex
#

ngl i don't even really push, but i should prob do that more often lol

vivid warren
#

good blessings for helbore?

trim steppe
#

Doing a push when your dodges are low gives you a nice window of safety to recover your dodges without getting whacked

thorny gorge
#

Whats the attack on the mk6 combat blade that can wave clear

#

Heavy?

scenic merlin
#

does Covering Fire apply to me if I kill an enemy close to me?

deft lotus
#

The tards over at 4chan claim that its better not to max vet keystones and instead invest the points into later nodes of the skill tree is this true

umbral scaffold
#

if you can make the build work anything can be good really

distant phoenix
#

Got error code

pearl sapphire
#

So many ragers

distant phoenix
#

OG, back in my day we ain't had no fancy shmancy keystones

umbral scaffold
#

hell whent eh rework came out vet had NO keystones

distant phoenix
oblique totem
#

My computer just crashed

#

Thanks Darktide

distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
#

What’s the best knife?

oblique totem
#

Gonna be a minute before I can hop back on

distant phoenix
#

The one that goes "Gish Gash, Cut a hole in ya ass!"

pearl sapphire
#

The mk III is puncture? So overhead swipes and stuff? Me want

distant phoenix
pearl sapphire
distant phoenix
#

Punch> heavy 3

oblique totem
#

Block, jab, heavy, repeat

snow oriole
#

is collateral the right dump stat for boltguns? or is it mobility

pearl sapphire
#

I think that the next chest piece added should be a commissars jacket with an ork power claw for a left hand, just saying

oblique totem
#

Aaaaand Windows updates hit. It was fun while it lasted.

pearl sapphire
#

Lmao

oblique totem
#

Always love killing heretics with da bois.

umbral scaffold
#

😭 ❓

oblique totem
umbral scaffold
#

:3

oblique totem
#

But yeah, that death count is insane how'd you manage that?

umbral scaffold
#

just captured a settlement and huh usually garrison at that first turn is basically non-existant so i guess it bugged out

#

they didnt get hurt or anything they showed up late for the battle

oblique totem
#

Clearly. They lost more than the population of the entire world in that battle.

umbral scaffold
#

refer to guardsman planet

oblique totem
#

There's still Orks.

#

Well, necrons in this picture

small loom
#

am I dumb? why cant I replace deathspitter with scattershot? I already own the blessing in the mastery menu

umbral scaffold
#

im fairly certain it was a negative value or soemthing like that so it switched it to lik highest possible idfk

tranquil bronze
#

Brunt gave me a full 1 percent extra to mobility

pearl sapphire
#

@distant phoenix my game kicked me as I exited the psykanium

#

Ok nvm

oblique totem
small loom
#

figured it out, just server desync or something

pearl sapphire
#

It made me pick my character again (I haven’t used the psykanium since I first used the bolt pistol )

#

So idk if it does that

south garnet
#

are BM + power cycler still the defacto PS blessings?

raven carbon
#

what are good bolter blessings for vet?

hard cave
last parcel
#

i guess someone has a type

distant phoenix
oblique totem
distant phoenix
#

Obviously

oblique totem
thick needle
#

The legendary 0 mobility Bistol

faint beacon
hard cave
#

yeah but like

#

I at least try to match the weapon skin with the weapon model lmao

trim steppe
#

Bolt anchor... I'll see myself out

terse idol
tranquil bronze
#

It changes the appearance to that of the basic lasgun

#

But red

hard cave
#

no ik but why all them red,,,

last parcel
#

red is cool

tranquil bronze
#

Red is the color of the Inquisition

oblique totem
tranquil bronze
#

And the level 20 mastery cosmetic is also red

last parcel
#

gives a nice crunchy texture

thick needle
#

Remembering I have free will and I don't have to master weapons I don't like using (Dueling Sword)

thick needle
#

I just don't like it

oblique totem
thick needle
#

Also Darktide is actively preventing me from accessing the meta again by refusing to give me a perfect revolver for 47 consecutive rolls

idle swallow
#

use the chad fanfire revolver instead

thick needle
#

I got no revolver
Only leveling the 🅱️istol now

distant phoenix
#

All my robes are red so that ppl can't see all the heretic blood stains

oblique totem
#

Isn't that the opposite of what you want though?

#

Also don't these heretics bleed green?

distant phoenix
#

Time better spent killing more heretics

distant phoenix
oblique totem
#

I have no further questions.

distant phoenix
#

I'm still gonna scrap it tho

#

Oh here's another

#

Going thru and spring cleaning my vet rn

umbral flame
#

whats the dump stat on sapper shovel

last parcel
umbral flame
#

sick ty

umbral flame
last parcel
trim steppe
tribal pelican
#

dump stat on knife?

blissful cliff
#

Mobility

mortal horizon
#

drip on point?

viral trench
#

Anyone got a build for the kantrael?

junior needle
tribal pelican
#

real quick knife blessings?

junior needle
#

There's 3 kantrael ilas, a kantrael shotgun, a kantrael laspistol

#

And even different marks of the same family have different considerations

scenic merlin
junior needle
#

due to breakpoint differences

viral trench
#

I want to stick as close to “default guardsman” loadout as i can lol

junior needle
#

The lasgun formerly known as the 1a is generally considered the best ilas

#

It's the medium fire rate version

thorny gorge
#

What happened to the recon mkVId

#

Is it just the C model now?

viral trench
thick needle
last parcel
thick needle
thorny gorge
#

o7

misty delta
#

has the power sword been inconsistent for anyone lately?

#

just played a game and I'd do the special activation but my attacks wouldn't be powered

#

kinda frustrating ngl especially vs ragers lol

tribal pelican
thick needle
#

I thought I was getting punched out of it or sumn

misty delta
#

welp glad to hear I'm not the only one

austere mica
#

This is why you don't run the sleepy sword

lavish token
austere mica
#

There are other ways to enforce that that do not put me to sleep

distant phoenix
#

Me when I when me when i:

distant phoenix
austere mica
#

I can and have played darktide on zero sleep

cedar abyss
#

Okay so now any weapon can be any 'mark' type

distant phoenix
pseudo portal
#

Howdy folks, what are the main priorities (besides damage) on a Helbore Lasgun? I have a couple rolls with 80s in everything and a 60 in one stat.

cedar abyss
#

How do I unlock level 2 of a blessing?

austere mica
#

also no I am not doing anything like a good boy, I infact strive not too

lavish token
distant phoenix
#

Adepta Maternitas has spoken.

lavish token
#

Always take shock trooper on hellbores

distant phoenix
faint beacon
#

If you dont take shock trooper I will personally berate you till you do it

austere mica
distant phoenix
faint beacon
pseudo portal
austere mica
#

I know they are an eepy build user

distant phoenix
lavish token
#

I was on a 70 mission win streak

distant phoenix
#

Lmao

lavish token
#

Thought I’d keep going

last parcel
# cedar abyss How do I unlock level 2 of a blessing?

open the inventory/operative menu and go to the tab on top that says mastery. you unlock blessings through there, and you get them through mastery points (weapon exp from use or sacrifices)
you need to unlock enough t1 blessings before you can get t2s, as shwon buy the skull circle icon

distant phoenix
#

Touch

#

Now

cedar abyss
lavish token
#

Plasma powersword user

faint beacon
distant phoenix
austere mica
#

I was once a plasma PS VoC user but then I realized I was nuking any fun I could have from orbit and stopped

lavish token
#

You waste two point because you can’t stop going down on zealot

distant phoenix
lavish token
distant phoenix
#

My power fantasy is the fun part

lavish token
austere mica
#

also, why look like john cadia when I can

faint beacon
#

Jane Cadia

last parcel
#

hat gang

thick needle
#

Hell yeah same hat

lavish token
#

Probably 230

austere mica
#

Fuck sized scope Dbarrel my beloved

blissful cliff
#

Hadron is punching the air right now.

austere mica
#

(it doesn't work but its goofy as hell and I love it)

last parcel
#

gotta get that passive +4 stability

austere mica
faint beacon
blissful cliff
#

i gotta download scoreboard, i gotta see if it's me that's playing absolutely terrible in auric maelstrom or if we're all playing terrible. I just gotta know lol

austere mica
#

Can't

faint beacon
#

Also they updated Extended Weapons Customization?

austere mica
#

No sawed stocks on my version

faint beacon
#

cause ive been rocking Vanilla till they updated it

last parcel
austere mica
#

Still works just fine

#

The silly red skins don't work but I don't care that much

faint beacon
#

Oh, noted

#

gonna check if they did

#

if they didn't im honestly going to hop on my friends MC server before I sleep for my new job tomorrow

last parcel
#

latest update was ~2 weeks ago to do some optimizations

austere mica
#

They've a version from 2 days ago in their channel in the modding server

last parcel
#

that’s a repost because he forgot to pin it

austere mica
#

Damn

thick needle
#

Dawg I got OHKO'd by a crusher after it died

quasi inlet
#

What'd be better for las heavy pistol, 1 or 2nd?

narrow frost
#

This would make it alot more ammo efficient since it would build for crit

tall torrent
#

Is gameslantern down for anyone else?

trim steppe
tall torrent
#

Thx

distant phoenix
#

Hehehehehe

austere mica
#

Hate

distant phoenix
austere mica
#

I mean the blessings

#

are ass

#

That 2 percent is the result of several rounding errors

lavish token
#

The blessings and the mark

austere mica
#

Mk1 makes me sad

blissful cliff
#

I just played a match with a Vet that i can only assume was a weapon specialist

#

They absolutely deleted everything with PS and Revolver lmao

lavish token
#

Also fact that they were using ps revolver

austere mica
#

PS revolver is just plain OP you don't even need any keystones

blissful cliff
#

I thought PS was supposed to have bad mobility but this person was fucking flying as fast as my knife vet lol

viral trench
#

does the lasgun ammo perk still have the hidden cooldown?

lavish token
austere mica
#

It also looks terrible

distant phoenix
#

And they had to go an do the same with scavenger

quasi inlet
narrow frost
#

but for the 2 you showed

distant phoenix
last parcel
narrow frost
quasi inlet
minor iron
#

did melk bring me a winner?

narrow frost
distant phoenix
austere mica
distant phoenix
minor iron
#

damn, cc that important? the pinned WIP doc says its fine as long as its above like 26%

austere mica
#

I wouldn't dump it either way

last parcel
minor iron
#

another quick question because im returning after a decently long break, the new potential system... is this what im looking for? i can eventually raise all of these stats to their max potential right? is this ideally what im looking for in a revo?

austere mica
#

Yes

#

It costs a lot but yeah

minor iron
#

itll cost me some currency i get it but as long as i can farm toward a perfect-ish gun, that would be really sweet

austere mica
#

Looking at about 72000 dockets in upgrades or so right there (might be horribly wrong) but it will cost infinitely more to find something with those stats nat rolled

junior needle
austere mica
#

+plasteel and diamantine

minor iron
#

ive got a ton of resources so no biggie there, i'm just so used to rolling at brunt and seeing 2 numbers is jarring, despite reading the fatshark page on the new system lmao

tall torrent
minor iron
#

just wanted to make sure i dont only have to choose like a few of those stats to raise, i can eventually get them all to 80 except mobility

rapid egret
#

Anyone having a problem with the event not tracking

mortal horizon
trim steppe
#

or it doesnt count

tribal pelican
#

what does the hive mind think of the dueling sword

faint beacon
#

Hatred

#

(its very strong)

scenic merlin
#

should i level the infantry lasgun or helbore

hollow ibex
#

do you like charged weapons? hellbore

scenic merlin
#

decided to go with infantry cause helbore has a long animation

molten hound
blissful cliff
#

sunk cost fallacy?

#

idk lol

junior needle
#

Most people didn't tolerate it and so they left KEKW_ogryn

#

That's why the game has around the same playerbase count as vt2

#

Despite being in a massively more popular IP and including guns

full nacelle
#

I'm very tempted to go back and play Vermintide 2 again

#

but I feel like I won't remember anything

#

besides Bardin

#

I'd never forget that beautiful dwarf

scenic merlin
#

wats the infantry lasgun dump stat

sullen scarab
#

You think this thermal resist will go up to 69% after powering it up?

#

😂

minor iron
#

my max mobility was at 60%, i empowered and it went down to 57%, wtf just happened?

last parcel
minor iron
#

ah ok

tall torrent
sullen scarab
#

I'm praying to the machine spirits

#

😂

#

basically if it goes right, i can fire 8 shots without overheating right?

blissful cliff
#

Grenadier build is so much fun

scarlet vessel
#

whats the dumpstat for recon lasgun, Collateral since its already low stagger?

austere mica
#

Unless you want to hit the ultra specific bulwark open in 1 shot BP with bolter on vet

viral swallow
blissful cliff
#

uhhh, what's the mod that let's you show off the entire talent tree?

scarlet vessel
#

thanks collateral it is then. mobility might be better higher to dodge while shoot

last parcel
blissful cliff
#

👏

blissful cliff
# viral swallow what's the build?

Here you go! Now keep in mind, i'm using a mercy killler knife which is why i'm running serrated blade, if you run any other melee weapon that isn't the knife, just take the 10% rending by the keystone. It'll make your bolt pistol hit even harder.

viral swallow
#

ty

blissful cliff
#

Also i'm aware my Bistol isn't god statted, i just can't me assed to roll for a new one lmao

tall torrent
#

No uncanny

#

Cope by taking exploit weakness

#

(It somehow works)

last parcel
#

just always crit chadgryn

#

(i didn't take riposte)

blissful cliff
#

How does...brittleness work compared to rending?

#

I supposed brittleness strips armor

#

versus rending just gaining more pen?

austere mica
austere mica
#

Meaning brittleness needs to be restacked on everything but benefits teammates

#

But rending sticks after targets (in the case of uncanny)

tall torrent
#

Knife is inherently a very RNG weapon

#

Because it’s so crit heavy

viral swallow
#

how's the dueling sword on vet? anyone tried building around it yet?

#

got a decent MKIV in my shop, considering picking it up

tall torrent
flat crypt
#

That's why i prefer mk II, better horde clear but you still get the H1 stab of the mk IV

full nacelle
#

Thoughts on the best laspistol blessings?

#

Ghost + Dumdum?

blissful cliff
#

Dude, i always see some of the coolest looking characters when i'm chilling in the Mourningstar

#

But then i get in game and i get every version of homeless imaginable

kind musk
blissful cliff
#

I like to think, that unlike the Zealot. My Veteran is ACTUALLY too angry to die

#

Something something, Cadia

tall torrent
#

I just use the light Cadian Armor

flat crypt
blissful cliff
#

Should i put more focus on stam regen or sprint cost reduction for curios?

tall torrent
flat crypt
#

Totally up to your own preferences imo, if you feel like you're lacking on something then go with that

tall torrent
#

If curio stamina regen affected stamina regen delay I’d run it more

#

But it’s only regen rate

flat crypt
#

It would indeed be a nice addition for curio selection to get a little shorter stamina regen delay

blissful cliff
#

I feel like i'm still too reliant on PA with the combat blade which is why i'm hesitant on swapping Stam Regen for Sprint cost reduction

tribal pelican
#

I FEEL like im mulching hordes in auric mal so much better with the powersword but im dyeing way more then I do with the chiansword