veteran-class

[winter dock]

Someone remind me, which chainsword is the better one for crowd clearing?

[uncut pebble]

If you pop into zealout chat later and get ahold of epic_cole, he's got a db knife weapon spec build. Or you can wait a while and I can post it. I'd do it now but Imma sleep.

[winter dock]

the IV or the XIIIg?

[uncut pebble]

Mk4 does heavies.

[candid agate]

i can wait, just DM it to me when your awake again

[uncut pebble]

Mk13 is light spam.

[winter dock]

Gotcha

[lavish token]

the difference is 50 cleave, 66%, but over 94% fire rate, thereby completely pointless to charge, you can also shoot more without quelling

[blissful cliff]

I use thrust and precog/riposte, for perks i use carapace and unyielding

[winter dock]

50 cleave is alot. Its can result in killing a significant amount of extra stuff. Just last game I one-tapped two muties at the same time with a single charge shot, though I charged there moreso because I knew I'd only have a very short window to actually shoot in cuz they were turning a corner aiming at someone else

Also lots of rager congalines a friendly ogryn would bully into a corner, and I'd just chargeshot and autokill that entire half of the hallway

[lavish token]

You’d have done that anyway

50 cleave is insanely high

[blazing notch]

are we back on this? hold on let me grab my gifs

[blissful cliff]

Uber is my spirit animal

[blazing notch]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-26205596

[topaz lance]

The air here is feeling kinda charged

get it?

charged

[sharp echo]

no

I don't get it

can you please explain

[lavish token]

There’s very very few scenarios where the difference between 50 and 100 cleave is even relevant

[blazing notch]

https://tenor.com/view/frag-gif-26296694

[blissful cliff]

Oh i hate that

[winter dock]

I think it comes up quite often. Tons and tons of times where I take a single shot or two, only for tons of shit to still be alive, and realize after the fact that a chargeshot would have sufficed for the entire thing. Some spots on some maps are especially good for chargeshots (like enclavum baross- tons of long bridges/hallways/staircases there)

[sharp echo]

that's so cool

[topaz lance]

honestly, it's a very complex pun. Not sure I can

[sharp echo]

it messes with my pattern recognition

[blissful cliff]

Least corrupted Nurgle worshipper.

[blazing notch]

lol real

[wet elk]

lmao which one is the broken one?

[blissful cliff]

first one

[lavish token]

4

All of them kinda

[wet elk]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-22378372

[sharp echo]

you can see by it's angle it's made for stabby

[winter dock]

in fact the new mission is really really good for plasmagun in general, and of course there are spots (especially after the two batteries) where you get just an unimaginable amount of raw stuff all stacked up on one spot/line where a chargeshot will just absolutely obliterate

[sharp echo]

what are you yammering about

where is the context

[wet elk]

i put this one it, should be good right

[thick kestrel]

Thrust is worth a look in on the mkIV dueling sword

[sharp echo]

I would do riposte and precognition

[blissful cliff]

I believe thrust is stronger than Uncanny

[thick kestrel]

those stab heavy attacks with the bonus damage one shot a LOT of things :>

[real sorrel]

For the weapon specialist vets, any nuts breakpoints we can hit now with the sabres available?

[sharp echo]

oh wait do vets get precognition

idek

[wet elk]

👀

[thick kestrel]

yarp

[sharp echo]

anyway should I switch that to flak or unyielding or keep as is

[sharp echo]

then yes riposte and precognition goes hard

dueling sword is movement heavy imo you're gonna be dodging around stuff anyways

[thick kestrel]

aye, I mention mention thrust because it lets you 2 shot crushers with two heavy thrusts without too much risk

which is, in fairness, not nothing

[sharp echo]

true

I run riposte precognition on my psyker and it works the same

so ig go with whatever you want

they both work

[thick kestrel]

as well as one shot stab mutants and most ragers

[foggy harness]

Yo quick question, i can only buy the XII recon lasgun from brunts but wanna get the Vld is it now RNG to aquire

[thick kestrel]

makes an excellent can-opener :>

[sharp echo]

Vld is XII

they changed the names

[thick kestrel]

thankfully no! you can switch the mode of the lasgun whenever you like now once you get the mastery

[foggy harness]

wait what where?

in mastery?

[uncut pebble]

When you hover over it in your weapons screen.

[uncut pebble]

Select the weapon in question, there's a thing that says marks.

[foggy harness]

AAAAAAAAAAAA

thats awesome thanks a ton!

[thick kestrel]

it's a delightful QoL update

[sharp echo]

regarding this? what do you think

[thick kestrel]

also gives you room to tweak depending on build

[uncut pebble]

Change crit perk to flak damage.

[sharp echo]

but i need crit for infernus....

[thick kestrel]

I seem to recall the %crit being reasonable on recon lasguns due to long crit strings... been a bit since I had a proper look

[sharp echo]

i know what im doing with the crit%

Just need to know if i should change maniac

[thick kestrel]

hrm... might be worth checking the damage breakdown?

[sharp echo]

the what now

[thick kestrel]

I seem to recall recon lasguns having flak as a weakpoint damage, so flak would round it out

this wee bit :>

[sharp echo]

ohhhhhh

[uncut pebble]

Inspect your weapon, there's a table you can see for non/crit body/headshot damage for all armor types.

[thick kestrel]

so yeah, it's a bit weaker vs flak by default, so flak would be a reasonable choice to balancing out the damage

[blissful cliff]

lol, first QP of the day. Guess what mission it throws me into :)

[sharp echo]

rollingsteel

always fucking rolling steel

[blissful cliff]

i fucking loathe rolling steel

[sharp echo]

same

[thick kestrel]

based on the chart... yeah probably flak if you want to pick one of them...

[sharp echo]

yeah flak maniac and unyielding are all valid choices but flak is most common

so flak it is

yeah for curios i'll just balance and go 1 health 1 tough 1 stam

oof am I just unlucky or are +17% tougness curious super rare

[thick kestrel]

they do take a bit to gather aye

[sharp echo]

ig i have 16% it's just 1% so not super bad

[wet elk]

the new mission is awesome lol

[sharp echo]

yes it is awesome but after a while just gets annoying to keep rolling it in qp

[wet elk]

at least its super short

[thick kestrel]

yeah it's just how it goes. the new missions is always assured in the rotation at each difficulty so it's always got a 1/4 chance of being rolled

after a bit it'll go into the normal rotation

[candid agate]

gotta love darktide being so unoptimised if i try to do anything after a mission it uses up all my memory lmao

[clear mist]

i found out that i dont like the power sword all that much what melee shoude i try? i like the shock maul

[thick kestrel]

the shockmauls are solid all rounders with some interesting utility, ideal on less melee specific builds because they have a good low investment strength.

combat axes are similar with a bit more of a damage focus with the Rashad mkII still being a top end pick for weapons thanks to not really having any weakpoints.

devilswords are powerful defensive picks with superb horde clear and are still probably the best answer to rager swarms you can get

[hollow warren]

500 rescued allies, at last

[raven notch]

I like the Shovel

[thick kestrel]

tactical axes are potentially a bit more viable? they've got insane attack speed and the new agile blessing combined with brutal momentum gives them some kind of silly weakpoint damage and mobility which might give them a solid little niche as a fast single target shredder

[raven notch]

Heavy Sword is also nice and it can deal with Ragers pretty neatly

[thick kestrel]

honestly they attack so fast now it's hard to see them in motion on light attack chains...

[raven notch]

Just lacking in Carapace damage though

[thick kestrel]

the heavy swords and dueling swords are both going to be excellent picks, heavy swords are probably somewhere between devilswords and combat axes? dueling swords are single target murder machines with insane mobility

and of course you have shovels which are another excellent jack of all trades pick with 2 specialised modes, a defensive normal mode and a single target carapace cracker on the special (or extreme crowd control for the non-folding shovel)

honestly we're eating good for viable melee options right now

[jovial sky]

So, what kinda builds are people playing for auric maelstrom on vet. I have been just spamming auric damnation with my vet and have been very basic and running Krak, VOC and focus target. I have noticed that in a lot of groups on auric people actually are good enough at killing armored targets so that krak kinda loses its use against those plenty of times. So, idk if it is still particularly good for auric maelstrom.

[raven notch]

Frags are much more versatile tbh

3 frags can get you out of any shit situation you got yourself into

[thick kestrel]

aye, as you say if people have got anti-armour covered the utility of Frags for making room and helping clear hordes is probably a very strong pick

smoke isn't a completely useless option either? but it tends to need coordination and practice to make work... so better to learn to use them outside of Auric before just switching to them

[winter dock]

I did some testing with the new flamer backpack mechanic. There are three different explosions that can happen

[sharp echo]

what melee weapon you recommend for burn recon

just shovel?

[raven notch]

I usually run PSword or Shovel

[blissful cliff]

Immediate boom, slightly delayed boom, and then my favorite

[sharp echo]

then yeah shovel it is

don't wanna overcomplicate

[blissful cliff]

The "fuck you i'm going to take you all with me" boom

The last one being the most horrifying.

[winter dock]

If you shoot the tank once, it starts leaking but won't explode on its own- but it will explode whenever the flamer dies. But the explosion will be "weak"- it won't do anything but spill fire around.

If you shoot the tank twice, thats when the timer starts and the flamer is permastunned until it explodes- but again it'll be weak and mostly just spread fire

But if you shoot the tank three times- or shoot it twice and then kill the flamer with a third shot, it MEGA booms which acts like an explosive barrel and will knock shit away with beeg damage

[sharp echo]

OO

[raven notch]

Is it me or does the PSword bypasses the flamer explosion thingy

[winter dock]

From what I noticed, "cleave" ignores the backpack

it has to be a direct hit, so unless you're swinging at it from behind it you'll never melee the backpack

[blissful cliff]

Don't underestimate my ability to somehow miss it's head and hit it's backpack instead

[winter dock]

Actually scratch that

I jsut did that and it still didnt hit

I think melee in general might just not hit the pack

maybe thats just the arc on my chainsword?

Let me try a precise melee

[raven notch]

I think some other melees can

[winter dock]

Knife can't

nor the shovel's poke

yeah I think melee just cant trigger it

[raven notch]

Oh that's neat

[blissful cliff]

I've triggered it in matches

[winter dock]

OH interesting

[blissful cliff]

I can't trigger it in psykanium

[winter dock]

if you shoot it from behind

it immediately goes to stage 2

Hmm, on the pox one at least

Does the tank have armor??

Huuuh

this is being inconsistent now

I think it has a health pool

and armor

so diff weapons will progress it differently

Yeah absolutely

takes WAY more shots with a shredder

[blissful cliff]

It's got a very inconsistent hit box

[sharp echo]

hitbox is a hitbox

the only variable is what weapon ur using

[blissful cliff]

i think in practice it takes 3 shots to blow it up with the revolver. However sometimes i'll hit the tank but it won't proc the next 'phase' on the tank

[sharp echo]

wonder if a charged plasma will explode it in 1 hit?

anyone try it?

[naive burrow]

How's this for a mostly melee build that swaps to the revolver to deal with specials?

I feel like i'm spread too thin around the tree to grab random shit.

[blissful cliff]

Make it go brr or something

Idk

[naive burrow]

Rashad combat axe and IIa revolver

[blissful cliff]

Yea i keep reading the rising heat blessing but it just says scales up to 20% scaling with heat level

And idk wtf that means lmao

Like is it 20% crit? 20% strength?

[flat pebble]

strength

[blissful cliff]

It’s power, yea

https://preview.redd.it/rising-heat-blessing-v0-ggbrhjzhl6rd1.png?width=710&format=png&auto=webp&s=27617c965be06de3d698f68efe03c6bc5475b6dc

Or well, strength now

I’ve never ran the plasma, i should make a build for it but

I don’t feel like it

Lol

That’s fair, i’ve had the most fun with a vraks vet with infiltrate and a knife

It’s allowed me to clutch several times and the ability to just stealth and unload into whatever poor heretic you get behind will never not be funny

But yea, VoC is probably better

iAG

Old columnus

Now the vraks iAG

It’s just very satisfying to the ears

My build probably isn’t even optimized (and i need to roll a new knife)

But it gets the job done for regular QP damnation

[low wagon]

Absolutely drop Close Quarters Killzone, it's nothing special, and instead get Reciprocity, a +25% crit chance

Beyond that it's okay build that chooses to go on nades, stealth, etc. - which is fine for variety, playable on highest difficulties, but very far from being optimal.

[blissful cliff]

Also you do not need one motion, swapping to and from the revolver is already instant

I’d drop those first 3 top right nodes and instead grab Close Order Drill, confirmed kill, and the stamina node

[low wagon]

for melee build that swaps to revolver optimal is I'd say something like

melee +10% node is important with unarmoured damage +25% on Rashad to reach 1-hit breakpoints on trash without stacks

[static radish]

what's a good melee for veteran?

[flat pebble]

yes

[static radish]

so any?

i normally use melee for crows and my trusty revolver for el big dudes

[low wagon]

I also played this variation, it's okay, but clearly worse than optimal one

Rashad is still fantastic pick for Vet

[static radish]

aight what's better then, assault chainsword big or assault chainsword small

[flat pebble]

What do you have against crows

[static radish]

i meant crowds 😭

[flat pebble]

LIKELY

corvid hater

[static radish]

fuck no

love crows

my homies

[flat pebble]

that’s the other mark of the base chsword

[static radish]

that not the big on selected?

[flat pebble]

the big one is called an eviscerator

[static radish]

BRUUUUH

then out of these two which is better for crowds

[flat pebble]

I prefer the XIII, better light spam ime

mk4 is heavy spam

and gain a vertical heavy

i think there’s room for preference for both

i just don’t like heavy spam on chsword

[static radish]

aight so MK XIIIg for light spam right?

[flat pebble]

i use flak unarmored rampage wrath

flak hordes hit mass gets to the point where rampage won’t proc without a wrath stack or two

[ebon prism]

Urrrg... Restarted the game today

all of my trees got reset

[midnight dome]

anyone got a recon las?

build that is

[heavy rover]

you looking for something for crowd control or for something more single-target focus (like crushers?)?

[old prism]

You looking to protect yourself or deal some damage?

[static radish]

feel like i can't make a vet build for the life of me

are keystones that important btw?

[heavy rover]

keystone's aren't really necessary for a viable build

[static radish]

then ima say fuck em for rn

[raven notch]

My most played build is keystoneless

[static radish]

am not level 30 so

[raven notch]

It's kind of funny though, all other classes keystones are pretty straightforward, meanwhile Vet needs to jump through hoops to engage with em

[midnight dome]

something that can really take advantage of this type of build, my single target focus is grenades for crushers

[raven notch]

With Onslaught you can plink crushers to death with the recon

Won't be ammo efficient, but it's nice to have

[heavy rover]

do you have any stamina curios by any chance?

[midnight dome]

yep

[raven notch]

Isn't toughness regeneration purely coherency toughness?

[heavy rover]

sweet, gimme a second to open the game so I can show you what I like to run

[faint beacon]

Rending strikes + Weakspot hitting is more efficient

The only time I can really argue onslaught being more effective is if it’s the high DPS mark or if you’re purposely trying to apply brittleness for the team to take advantage of

But who am I kidding no one does that on Auric

[dire lagoon]

does anyone know if it makes a difference cost wise if you empower a profane weapon to 500 first vs consecrate first and them empower?

[heavy rover]

here's the loadout on mine (note that I swap between infernus and dumdum frequently). My Curios are 2 stamina curios with 1 toughness. Talent-wise, pretty flexible if you want to go Voice of Command or Executioner's stance route. Just make sure you have survivalist. Bottom of my tree looks like this. There's some flexibility if you want to do marksman focus + Long Range Assassin + Tunnel Vision or if you want to do Focus Target + Focus Fire + Target down instead

stamina curious help with maximizing deadshot, while the stamina regen from marksman focus or focus target helps replenish stamina quickly to do more shots with deadshot

[red robin]

idk if it counts

wouldnt cleave headshots do something with that stamina talent?

[dire lagoon]

what's your crit rate after a game running this?

[heavy rover]

sorry, i don't have the mod for the stats board

[heavy rover]

I'm assuming that it does, I've noticed that I tend to build up on marksman focus and regen stamina very quickly

[red robin]

i think marksmen focus is amazing on high crit chance high fire rate guns that string the shots

[heavy rover]

i really like the added stamina regen with marksman focus

[red robin]

i meannn, you get more up time at 0 stamina

[blissful cliff]

I keep hearing about a grenadier build with bolt pistol lethal proximity but i don't actually know how to make it <.<

[red robin]

get a bolt pistol, get lethal proximity, middle tree and grab nodes

i can share mine holdon

got it from one of the darktide wizards here

[low wagon]

can you remind me why people prefer VI power sword to III?

[crimson pebble]

lights are easier to dish out then heavies and push attk is gamer

[ebon prism]

What do you think of this built? I want my guy to be both good at ranged and melee kill?

with constant grenades

[red robin]

uh

that's very point costly

[blissful cliff]

You can animation cancel the power sword special with block and then proceed to push attack stab into the slam down that deletes bosses and carapace

[crimson pebble]

no

[blissful cliff]

Does a lot of damage and is very defensive at the COST of mobility

Weapon specialist slightly alleviates it though

[ebon prism]

The Emperor didn't gave me more.

[raven notch]

No field improv or Stormtrooper

[crimson pebble]

what melee and what gun

[ebon prism]

That's kind of what I want tbh

[red robin]

what weapon are you using to need that much reload speed?

[ebon prism]

coming back from a break, so not fully stacked out

-I was busy grinding the three other character to level 30-

[crimson pebble]

whats the melee

[ebon prism]

-I have no idea if it's good or not tbh-

[low wagon]

oh yeah, push attack into light, that was it, amazing indeed!

[sharp echo]

omg... recon lasgun with celerity stim is absolutely ridiculous

it bugged my audio

[crimson pebble]

chainswords iffy imo bolt pistols good but def a point sink to make work well

[ebon prism]

-also, how do some get a full picture of the tree-

[blissful cliff]

believe it's a mod

[crimson pebble]

are you dead set on using exe stance @ebon prism

[ebon prism]

Not really, only thing I really want to keep is the grenades

and the execution stance

[crimson pebble]

so you want to specifically use kraks and exe stance right

[ebon prism]

yeah

they are so far the thing I like the most

rest is secondary

since I can also use other weapons, like Mk XII lasgun and stuff. 🤔

[blissful cliff]

Honestly, you'd def be better to just have your ranged be your elite destroyer to compliment the kraks, and then just let your melee deal with general horde clear

[crimson pebble]

what id use

@ebon prism

[blissful cliff]

top right tree isn't needed, and neither is top left tree as those two are niches are tend to only really work with specific weapons in mind

going down top middle is your best bet

[blissful cliff]

basically this lmao

[crimson pebble]

unless youre just rlly into the chain sword theirs a lot of more on meta melee choices to pick from but dont let that completely dissuade you from it if you find it fun

[blissful cliff]

You know, my issue is if i use a weapon on one class

[ebon prism]

Nah, the chainsword stay on.

[blissful cliff]

I can't for the life of me use it on another

I use chainsword on my zealot, so i can't use it on vet cause it feels off

But i use knife on my vet, and thus can't use it on my zealot lol

[ebon prism]

Chainsword is for a comissar.

-I may be currently reading Ciaphas Cain-

[blissful cliff]

lmao

ONE DAY we'll get a plasma pistol

[crimson pebble]

both powersword or the new dueling sword could both very easily fit into a commissar type build and both being very good at anti armor

[sharp echo]

god i LOVE builds that consist of holding down left click

love my recon... love my flame staff...

[blissful cliff]

It's definitely easier on the fingers

[sharp echo]

then on the other hand i have my knife zealot

it's a good balance

[blissful cliff]

My zealot stabby stabby duelist build has my right hand index finger in AGONY

[sharp echo]

better to spam then to time hold a bunch of times

[crimson pebble]

same love vet knife feels off whenever i try it in zeal

[sharp echo]

perhaps using the wrong personality

[blissful cliff]

Yes, but this is the closest i've ever felt to saltzpyre

[crimson pebble]

tho dueling sword feels much better for zeal then vet to me atleast

[sharp echo]

dueling sword feels weird for zealot for me

it just seems to not fit

for some reason

not build wise but vibe wise

[blissful cliff]

Maybe it's the drip?

[crimson pebble]

big fan of the mk5 for vet actually keep it as a mk4 for zeal and pysker

[blissful cliff]

Idk, my zealot looks like a dumbass hive ganger lmao

[sharp echo]

WRONG emoji

[blissful cliff]

i saw that

[sharp echo]

[ebon prism]

So did I.

[red robin]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-fish-spongebob-mocking-spongebob-fish-meme-gif-20977906

[crimson pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/pregnant-man-react-dont-dm-me-were-done-discord-react-dont-pregnant-man-react-me-gif-15172637796834483807

[sharp echo]

chat lurker

[ebon prism]

No, just two screens.

[sharp echo]

oh wait nvm u were here

[ebon prism]

[sharp echo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

ffs

[blissful cliff]

idk, doesn't look too off to me, but i guess an officer looking vet would probably make more sense with the DS

[coarse tide]

is cols mk v still a monster?

[blissful cliff]

Columnus autogun?

[coarse tide]

ye

[blissful cliff]

Yes, it's still a monster but the gun got renamed to the Vraks Mk V

[red robin]

bistol build from hammer of the emperor

[patent slate]

Can someone rate this build I made, I enjoy using it a lot but I have no idea if it’s even good or not

[red robin]

the bolt pistol can be rolled with mobility dumped to 60%

[timid basalt]

What melee are melee vets having the most fun with atm? Playing around with the chain axe and that's been a good time but want to play around with other options, interested in hearing what people have been liking

[blissful cliff]

I imagine the melee weapon does not matter?

[red robin]

ehhh

depends

its whatever you do best with

[blissful cliff]

i use a knife anyways lmao

[red robin]

but the build maker suggested power sword i believe?

[blissful cliff]

Oh hell nah

[verbal yoke]

I haven't played in a while. Is the Infantry autogun Mk V still good after the nerf?

[red robin]

but I just use whatever i like

[blissful cliff]

yes

[coarse tide]

i've been using the dueling sword on vet, its pretty good, but i have to spam left click so much it's actually ruining my hand lmao

[timid basalt]

need to set up that auto clicker macro haha

[coarse tide]

yess

[red robin]

duelling sword mk v with agile and weapon specialist kinda nutty

[red robin]

keepswinging and keep dodging mods are the carpal tunnel saver for the mk 5

there's a toggle for both

[raven notch]

Shovel or Heavy Sword for me

[blissful cliff]

alright, trying this grenadier build out

Am i just constantly tossing nades? Idk how this shit works lmao

[timid basalt]

which shovel? The OG or the foldy one?

[raven notch]

Don't they all fold?

Anyhow the one that swings horizontally on heavies

[crimson pebble]

the original shovels for ogryn and vet do not fold

[raven notch]

I use one of the foldy ones

Deals nicely with carapace when needed

Honestly the name change on the weapons is fucking me up

[coarse tide]

don't need no alternate attacks

[loud flower]

I just started testing the catachan devil claw, and it's really good for horde clear

I use it with a bolt pistol for a catachan warrior like build

And the perry against rangers is really good

And against bosses

[winged raft]

im getting signs to change my ways...

[patent slate]

Is the double barrel shotgun still broken?

Or did it get nerfed

[crimson pebble]

manstopper sort of got a nerf buff thing

[patent slate]

??

Soo is it worse or better

Or different

[crimson pebble]

nerfed the cleave but gave it stagger

[patent slate]

Soo can I like use infiltrate on vet and like one shot bulwarks and maulers using the double barrel

or no

[crimson pebble]

yea dmg should all be the same just wont be completely blowing away entire hordes w manstopper like it used to but anything it doesnt kill should get knocked back atleast i think

[patent slate]

Also should I use any of the vet ability modifiers

They seem pretty good but when I tested them out they barely changed my damage

[crimson pebble]

which ones

[patent slate]

Uh specifically oryn 20% dmg one and 15% dmg one for 10 seconds

those 2 seemed rlly good but when I tested them out it barely increased damage

I was doing like 22 dmg extra using an auto gun

[fervent estuary]

ollaa i came back after the update. im doing some build testing in the meat grinder and my range critical hits dont do any headshot dmg.
normal headshot is 1200 and a crit on the head is 600 wich is the same on the body.
and its not just the number. they dont get extra headshot dmg

anyone else know something about that that ?

[low pagoda]

hey

i have this problem

i got the 20 mastery in plasma gun

and the skin dosen't appear

[pseudo fiber]

do you have weapon customisation installed?

[unkempt lichen]

interact with penance lady

[low pagoda]

did that

[low pagoda]

yes but never used any thing but to change sight on colomnus

nothing else

[pseudo fiber]

then it's that I think it overrides the skins

[low pagoda]

hum

i'll delete it and try then

[blissful cliff]

OKAY so

Grenadier build is VERY unorthodoxed lmao

BUT, my god is the bolt pistol fun

Shoving it into someones eyesocket and then just seeing redmist after is a level of satisfaction i didn't think i'd get from it.

[low pagoda]

worked

[pseudo fiber]

[sharp echo]

o these new skins are actually amazing

[blissful cliff]

Yea, i like it on the flamer, the autogun, the recon

I think the bolt pistol doesn't look bad with it either (but the premium skin is better)

[ancient path]

hello veteran gamers

[thick needle]

Chain axe has remained goated for the new event

Taking Headtaker and Slaughterer together just lets you mow through hordes

[blissful cliff]

I have a good rooled chain axe i just haven't leveled chain axe mastery yet

Too broke :(

[thick needle]

So far I have Chainsword, Chainaxe and Devilclaw all maxed for the melee tools

And Bolter and Plasma maxed for ranged

[sharp echo]

is trickshooter niche or can be viable actually for agri revolver

?

[blissful cliff]

I have knife, shovel, chainsword, DS, and PS maxed for melee

iAG, Revolver, Bolt Pistol, recon, and plasma for ranged

That's just on vet though

[thick needle]

Almost have IAG maxed
Then I'm gonna max Shovel and Hellbore for silly Krieg shit

[blissful cliff]

i'd argue niche

But idk, i don't use the revolver on vet

Let alone the agri one, i used to but that was back when Hand cannon was busted as a blessing

[sharp echo]

i feel like if i'm consistent enough to get 5 headshots in a row on a monstrosity or a crusher it will work crazy

[last parcel]

it’s only useful for the meme boss damage setup

[sharp echo]

so,,, viable if i play specifically

ok so if i go crucian roulette and revovler (agripina) what melee would be good, knife?

[sharp echo]

damn i had a stroke typing that

and hand cannon

basically what melee for agri revolver

[red robin]

Strong vs bosses

Take run and gun and that

You honestly need all accuracy spread decreases to make trickshooter monstrous

[sharp echo]

wouldn't crucian roulette still be better with that tho?

[red robin]

Deadshot, run and gun, and executioners stance all reduce spread

Yeah, but you get 30% spread decrease on hip fire aim and brace aim

That, deadshot, executioners stance, make the crosshair tiny

[sharp echo]

I found i haven't had issues aiming with agri

even far distances

[red robin]

Default shots will one tap everything on chaining headshots

It’s up to you man

I like having razor accurate shots

Keep that uptime chain

And taking marksmen focus will give you 10% stamina on weakspot kills

[sharp echo]

hm

[red robin]

Which is more uptime on deadshot

[sharp echo]

I'll try it out

lemme master my revolver first haha

[red robin]

Hard build I’m not going to lie

[sharp echo]

and what melee would you recommend with that

[red robin]

It is super glass canon

High dodge range for survivability or shovel with uncanny and decimator for breathing room

[sharp echo]

knife

knife revolver

that's funny

or ig they did add that dueling sword

[red robin]

I like the MK 5 dueling sword with agile and precog

15% dodge range

Vs knife with 13% dodge range

[sharp echo]

huh

[red robin]

It’s solid survivability

[sharp echo]

That.. is unexpected

[red robin]

Buttttt

[sharp echo]

I honestly expected knife to have more mobility, it just makes more sense

[red robin]

You must rely on revolver to handle armor

[sharp echo]

ah

so dueling sword does the same thing

[red robin]

Which is hypocritical considering the build drops handcannon and crit chance for power

[sharp echo]

Revolver can still handle armor without that tbf

[red robin]

I think you can spec for double rending with chink in their armor and rending strikes

It will nuke everything

If you get the 20% dmg vs monsters and ogyrns, that unyielding damage will murder every bulwark, crusher and gunner with 1-2 shots

I like marksmen focus for the added reload speed too

[sharp echo]

I'm starting to really like this

I think I will go knife with this just for the versatility

[red robin]

You could use the zarona with hand cannon and surgical for easier consistency vs everything

[sharp echo]

which knife mark is better at slashing

[sharp echo]

I like the fanning tbf

[red robin]

But the other revolver requires skill and set up to do damage

Yeah

Me too

I find the zarona with surgical and handcannon boring

That build rewards you for having headshot chains

[sharp echo]

I used to run the meme build for killing bosses but i sacrificed that revolver a while ago

peoples reactions to boss HP going down that fast is priceless

[sharp echo]

I think shredder grenade would actually be better to handle crowds

with this kinda build

[sharp echo]

oo

[red robin]

you can skip the two rending points for grenade regen

if you need it

[sharp echo]

I was just making a build on the gameslantern website

[terse idol]

Now to be fair! You won't feel 2% difference

[sharp echo]

real

[red robin]

yeah...

[sharp echo]

I bet they will nerf dueling anyway

[red robin]

you want ogyrn highlights over shooter

[sharp echo]

I expected focus target to be the keystone here

odd

[red robin]

because focusing on shooting every shooter is a waste of ammo for the fanning revolver

[thick needle]

Surprised to see people grabbing early left tree now
I thought the middle was the must-have

[red robin]

variety is fun

again the build is super glass cannon

[sharp echo]

I might still take focus target over marksman focus just because I wanna move more freely

[thick needle]

Fair and fair

[red robin]

10 stacks is easy to get standing around

[terse idol]

I don't think they can

Nerf the dueling sword

If only because some classes will feel the nerf more

[red robin]

works also

[terse idol]

Vet dueling sword is so good because of the talents

[sharp echo]

yes but as soon as u move they're gone

[red robin]

not an issue if you aim for the head

[terse idol]

cause vet has the most melee damage and perhaps the most damage in the game

[red robin]

makes follow up shots one tap everything

[terse idol]

[red robin]

i flick and lock onto heads to make mf not feel resticted

[sharp echo]

also catch a breath hmmm

[red robin]

your choice tbh

[sharp echo]

I might just use this as a skeleton build and move stuff around

[red robin]

ye ye

marksmen (the red node) and trickshooter is a monster mulitplier for all those damage buffs you get in the tree

[thick needle]

What's the gimmick with the Duelling Sword

[sharp echo]

Carapace

[red robin]

mk4 you take thrust and uncanny to one tap anything

[sharp echo]

lol I personally take ripsote and precognition

[red robin]

mk5 you can be a dodge dancing meth head with agile and your choice of blessing

[tiny pendant]

click head

[red robin]

i take agile and precognition

[thick needle]

Huh, neat

[red robin]

on the mk5

[sharp echo]

go ask on the psyker channel

they know all

[red robin]

due to it having 15% dodge range

mk4 you should just prio damage

mk 5 is just meme ngl

[faint beacon]

Just learned today they added quotes to when people dont save you from a CS grab

[red robin]

yeah

i think there's even cries for help being launched

[sharp echo]

The amount of times ive been used as a weapon against my allies is disgraceful

[faint beacon]

That procced when it was eating me cause my team was too busy dealing with a Tox Flamer train

[pseudo fiber]

I think there are more in general for it

[coarse tide]

what are some good perks for mk iv duel sword?

[red robin]

can never go wrong with the hood classic

flak and maniac

or elite if you feel spicy

[faint beacon]

Carapace + Elite is also pretty good

its

[sharp echo]

@red robin what do you think

[faint beacon]

Honestly the Maccabian is a fucking swiss army knife

its so stupidly strong

you can really put anything on it and it'll just work

[flat pebble]

I don’t understand getting that allies toughness replen node over iron will

[red robin]

dont underestimate superiority complex

[red robin]

and you are going to feel not having iron will

[faint beacon]

I BEG OF YOU

NEW VETS

PLEASE

[toxic leaf]

counter fire is needed, idk about enhanced target priority

[faint beacon]

USE IRON WILL

[sharp echo]

Hey hey

This is why I ask

don't get mad

just explain calmly ffs

[thick needle]

So far my favorite builds postpatch have been mk13 chainsword & Bolter and mk12 chainaxe with IAG or BAG

[flat pebble]

what ranged are you using

[faint beacon]

Im sorry this is like the 7th time I've seen it in the past 2 days

[sharp echo]

I might just go no keystone

[toxic leaf]

what weapon are you using?

[flat pebble]

toughness replen such a trap it’s unreal

[faint beacon]

Iron will literally lets you take a shit ton more damage cause Veteran is a toughness generating class

[red robin]

inspiring presence only effects coherency toughness regen, nothing else

[sharp echo]

Agri revolver

[faint beacon]

Like if you're running VOC

you become unkillable

[flat pebble]

classic fatshark seems good is actually bad talent/perk/blessing

[faint beacon]

if not its literally just

[red robin]

tunnel vision is the only method of increasing toughness gain

[faint beacon]

it makes you harder to kill

[flat pebble]

also I’d sooner get redirect fire over the 8 FT stacks node e

[sharp echo]

fair

[faint beacon]

Tunnel Vision seems appetizing after its buff but like

its Marksman focus

its bad

[toxic leaf]

agri is the trickshot one, right?

[flat pebble]

also if you’re running agri revolver I’d run the elite kill toughness regen talent over the headshot toughness talent

Confirmed kill

[sharp echo]

yes the fanning one

[faint beacon]

I seriously wish they gave it some sort of melee synergy

[toxic leaf]

if so, longshot and exhilarating are bad

[red robin]

bro it is me who suggested this to him, get mad at me

i am the dumbass

[flat pebble]

you have jester privilege

[toxic leaf]

im not even sure the synergy on exec stance for fanning revolver

[red robin]

but I choose to make my game harder

[flat pebble]

you’ve noted it previously

[flat pebble]

oh yeah lmao I didn’t even consider

[sharp echo]

which one is that aagain

[toxic leaf]

you should be going down to weapon specialist for revolvers, both of them

[flat pebble]

just use VoC lol

[sharp echo]

Ok ok

[red robin]

60% reload speed is enough

i dont need 1 bullet

[flat pebble]

confirmed kill

[red robin]

i make it work

if i am using the zarona obviously

[toxic leaf]

weapon specialist is moreso the easy to swap between weapons, revolver is really good at pull out, fire at an elite and crit kill, swap back to melee

[faint beacon]

They're saying do this

[thick needle]

My skill tree do be looking a little goofy for Bolter builds

[red robin]

but i am using the agripnaa

[faint beacon]

it saves a bunch more points

[sharp echo]

oh lol

[toxic leaf]

half the time i use it on zarona, im hipfiring

its that good in close quarters

[sharp echo]

it takes the same points tho?

[faint beacon]

if you drop One motion and Long shot

or well left and rights branches

it saves you 4 points to put somewhere else

I'd argue One Motion is actually really good now

as like a

extra point I dont know what to do with

type ordeal

[toxic leaf]

one motion is really good but not for revolvers

[flat pebble]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d207d24-716e-47d9-9123-a75b6b6d2be0 I recommend something like this

[red robin]

knife and revolver already have fast swap speed

one motion is overkill

[faint beacon]

Honestly any pistol or knife

[flat pebble]

personally I’d rather use a weapspec build on this but if you want FT this is what I’d do

[sharp echo]

ouf ffs the amount of VoC builds ive seen

[faint beacon]

toss OM

anything bigger

it doesn't hurt to bring OM

[flat pebble]

i mean there’s a good reason for it lol

[red robin]

brother do what you want

[sharp echo]

yes but i wanna try other stuff

[flat pebble]

also if you want an exe stance build don’t use agri revolver

[faint beacon]

I ask

[sharp echo]

Idgaf if it's the best meta build ever I just want to enjoy it

[toxic leaf]

if you want to try other stuff, thats fine but dont use exec stance with teh fanning revolver lol

[faint beacon]

What do you want to use ability wise

[toxic leaf]

try the graia HH instead

[faint beacon]

cause I can tone it to be playable

[thick needle]

I like VoC just because it helps me clear a space for revives and reloads

[flat pebble]

the single shot headhunter/vigilant gun would be fun

[faint beacon]

Agri 9

[flat pebble]

if you want an exe stance build

[toxic leaf]

exec stance works really well with vigilants, bolter, bolt pistol

and recons and the iags

[red robin]

what's so terrible about it with executioners stance?

[thick needle]

I'm a bolter main, Jerry
I need some breathing room for my reloads

[red robin]

we talking agripnaa btw, not the zarona

[faint beacon]

With what

[flat pebble]

fanning revolve r

[faint beacon]

Exe?

[red robin]

ya

[faint beacon]

Agrivolver + Agri is one gimmick

[red robin]

that's what he wants to use and build for

[faint beacon]

boss nuking

[flat pebble]

it’s the type of thing az would run for massive boss damage

[red robin]

ya

[sharp echo]

yesss

[faint beacon]

its okay as anti special

but its literally just boss nuking

[sharp echo]

aware

[flat pebble]

but would otherwise be losing usability across the board

[last parcel]

vet chat moment

[faint beacon]

I would recommend for your sanity in just dealing with being thrown into horde scenarios

[red robin]

i find it one taps on normal shots with executioners and mf

[faint beacon]

run Weapon Specialist

[coarse tide]

how this vraks looking, should i change anything?

[red robin]

i like headshotting

[toxic leaf]

its not good for picking off gunners and ranged things which is what exec stance is made for

[sharp echo]

damn this is why i main psyker ong

[red robin]

the agripnaa is usable with skill and headshot chaining

[flat pebble]

yeah but it’s not unique in that, it’s less accurate and has 5 rounds per mag

[red robin]

that's why i like it

[faint beacon]

Behold the chat of min max

Zealot chat can be worse at times as well lmao

[neon estuary]

the spearhead boltgun, which blessing is best for it?

[toxic leaf]

its not min max, its just trying to save sanity

[red robin]

run and gun, executioners stance, and deadshot make it laser accurate

[sharp echo]

Oh don't get me started on zealot chat

[toxic leaf]

if you're good at the game, you can do anything you want

[red robin]

inshallah

[flat pebble]

i mean if you are in an open forum asking for advice you unfortunately might get it

[toxic leaf]

but if you're that good, you wouldnt be asking for advice on the skill tree like that

[sharp echo]

the moment you use the funny book you will become an outcast

[red robin]

i am not, i am suggesting a build to a guy who likes the fanning revolver

i am sending him to get murdered with a hard build

its fun

[faint beacon]

@sharp echo Anyways are you insisting on doing Exe + MF or do you not care on Keystone

[frank ether]

vet chat should minmax their lack of skill

[toxic leaf]

and we are suggesting to use maybe infiltrate and build for the fanning revolver's strengths

[flat pebble]

plush always chimes in to take potshots I love it

[toxic leaf]

not square peg and round hole

[sharp echo]

idgaf if it doesn't use keystones

[thick needle]

Why do Zealots hate the book now

[sharp echo]

"but how are you supporting if you're not doing damage???"

[frank ether]

hey, someone has to

[faint beacon]

I ran a fucking build where I forgot to use the Golden Toughness on Voc and didn't even notice till the match was over

lmao

[thick needle]

Okay yeah that sounds like Zealot mains

[faint beacon]

It was just stock VOC

by itself

[last parcel]

i do that on purpose lol

[faint beacon]

Beyond based

[toxic leaf]

i just did an ogryn match with ripper 2 thinking i was using ripper 5, and it was horrible, sometimes things happen

[frank ether]

my games are either carrying the world on my shoulders or snoozefest where I forget I have a gun or ult at all

no in between

usually the latter

[sharp echo]

aight imma just trial and error until i either give up or perfect it

[toxic leaf]

most of my ghames these days are histg aurics where we get 75% through and then a barrel detonates and sends 1 or more over the edge

[frank ether]

funny thing about not taking golden VoC is you're still running the most efficient path I guess lol

[last parcel]

stupid fucking stockpile

[faint beacon]

@sharp echo This is going off the idea you're using your revolver for anti special + boss

[sharp echo]

oo

ok I

quite like that

would that work well with combat knife

[frank ether]

yeah, I do leave it sometimes

[faint beacon]

@sharp echo Run hand cannon and Crucian Roulette cause then you'd get some benefit off of Opening Salvo

aka free rending

[thick needle]

You think Executioner Stance would work well with Braced Autoguns

[frank ether]

sure, why not

[sharp echo]

I feel like my aim is good enough to chain headshots

with agri

[toxic leaf]

exec stance works well with anything that can maintain good fire at distances

[faint beacon]

Melee wise

honestly seeing you have trench fighter

its up to choice as long as its good Horde Clear

[frank ether]

exe makes your guns more accurate and nulls the risk of suppression/stun

[faint beacon]

I would gas up Heavy Sword cause that shit is fun

[sharp echo]

so i'll try both handcannon and eventually ill switch to trickshooter to see if i like it

[faint beacon]

but thats up to you

Dont knock rending at all its

very overpowered

[frank ether]

I've spent a year crying about exe being bad

[sharp echo]

I feel like knife with bleed could horde clear okay

[frank ether]

so now that its good I feel somewhat responsible to say that its actually good now

[faint beacon]

Call me insane but Uncanny + Lacerate

[sharp echo]

Bet

[faint beacon]

seeing you cant get Serrated

before you even SAY A WORD

[frank ether]

It does just fine

[faint beacon]

Plush

[frank ether]

heya

[faint beacon]

I found it why Its strong lmao

[sharp echo]

lmao

[frank ether]

go on

[faint beacon]

Bleed ramps with Uncanny Rending

becomes beyond fucked at horde clear

[frank ether]

oh yeah, some consider it a broken interaction

[faint beacon]

Click a few times at head then body

delete horde in 2 seconds

[frank ether]

I wonder if uncanny would buff your shredder bleeds, I'm sure someone tested this already

[faint beacon]

It does

[sharp echo]

oh hell yes

[faint beacon]

we tested that with shovel ages ago

[frank ether]

thats grimsilly

lol

[frank ether]

that makes me funny shredder knife build even sweeter I guess

but I had mercy killer + executioner for a while

maybe I should go back to uncanny

exe is good on paper but in practice its just not for me

[faint beacon]

Im all for the CS quotes

it felt empty with you just being thrown around with 0 quotes

@sharp echo All seriousness if you want a dedicated knife build you'd run Uncanny + Mercy Killer with this wacky talent

It does the same exact thing but even better iirc

Actually more like if you're me who's trained to only click on heads

its more easier to use

[topaz lance]

Which blessings are good for the tactical axes?

Is BM worth it on them?

[faint beacon]

I ask what mark

cause BM is good on both just some are better than others

[topaz lance]

uh the one that has heavy strikedowns

[faint beacon]

Taxe 4?

Horizontal underhands and horizontal overhand light swings

[topaz lance]

let me double check

[faint beacon]

If its 4

BM + HT works

but Shred + HT is just as effective

BM + HT is more effective on Taxe 2 though

cause of its heavy horizontals

Taxe 7?

[topaz lance]

yes

[faint beacon]

I genuinely dont know

[topaz lance]

it's 4

[faint beacon]

I really dont touch that one

Oh yeah then its up to choice

Shred + HT can do some insane DPS

or BM + HT if you just want to get things of your screen quickly if you click at head level

[topaz lance]

Ok great thank you!

[faint beacon]

Perks I typically use Flak + Unarmored to make my life easier horde clear wise

[topaz lance]

I hope I haven't been spoiled by combat axe too much and can make it work

Ah, I have Flakiac at the moment

[faint beacon]

If you want a Knife + Caxe hybrid

it feels like it

you'll notice it doesn't delete hordes in seconds

but you have that mobility

[topaz lance]

hm sounds good, yes I was looking for more mobility

[faint beacon]

Dodge distance is pretty fucking nutty on it

I absolutely recommend it

its a fun melee weapon

[blissful cliff]

i am loving this grenadier build

Mostly because of the Bistol <.<

[faint beacon]

Bistol and Bolter buffs holy shit

make they guns not feel anemic

[sharp echo]

what dump stat knife?

[blissful cliff]

mobility

[sharp echo]

really??

hm

[blissful cliff]

Your dodge charges won't be affected

There's literally no, if not almost no difference between mobility 80 and mobility 60

hence it's a dump stat

[sharp echo]

oh

[blissful cliff]

cause you're not really dumping anything

[sharp echo]

well what about distance

I

Genuinely feel like penetration would be dump

if i wanna use it for hordeclear

[faint beacon]

Mobility

[blissful cliff]

I was using a 78% mobility knife prior to this new one i JUST rolled

[faint beacon]

but You could seeing you're running Uncanny

do Pen

if you want more mobility

[blissful cliff]

and it literally feels

[sharp echo]

or first target

[blissful cliff]

the exact same lmao

[faint beacon]

No

No no no

First target you really need

[sharp echo]

oh ok

[faint beacon]

Penetration is if you plan to run Uncanny

or Mobility

its up to you

[sharp echo]

i mean just sayin man, not bad

[red robin]

i personally dump damage on my knife and just drop uncanny

[faint beacon]

IM JUST SAYIN

Uncanny

and you win lmao

[sharp echo]

yeah

[blissful cliff]

You're a masochist LOL

[last parcel]

yeah that’s been established

[red robin]

reciprocity and riposte + precognition does enough carapace damage

[faint beacon]

Serrated Blade + Lacerate + Flesh Tearer user spotted

[sharp echo]

new note added to djs

[red robin]

I just like critting and headshotting

i also like tanner lindberg if yall wanted more reason to think im dumb

[sharp echo]

wait if i want hordeclear for knife it's better MkIII or MkVI

[faint beacon]

Unacceptable

[faint beacon]

I ask do you like using lights or heavys more

[sharp echo]

lights

for sure

[faint beacon]

Mk3

[sharp echo]

ok cool

[faint beacon]

If you like a mix/heavys

you do Mk6

imo I like MK6 more but both are really good

Mk6 does have an insane poke for a PA

[sharp echo]

MkIII is classic

[faint beacon]

thats what Mk6 has over Mk3

its PA is just fucking insane

[red robin]

mk3 got higher finesse scaling and its more single target

[sharp echo]

P.....A.... ?

[faint beacon]

Push Attack

[sharp echo]

I'm a dumbass

lmao

[hearty panther]

Public Announcement

[faint beacon]

If its not heavy sword I sleep

@last parcel I hate you

[red robin]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-gif-26204683

[sharp echo]

REAL

[blissful cliff]

Damn, wtf

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-ogryn-ogryn-reaction-live-reaction-plague-ogryn-live-reaction-gif-1395788199602766548

[blissful cliff]

Mk6 PA DELETES things

[faint beacon]

Poke crusher in head 2 times

win

its really just that easy

[blissful cliff]

Is that with uncanny?

[sharp echo]

thas what I got my revovler for..

so im fine withy mk3

[west arch]

Tend to see conflicting things but... which recon lasgun mark is the better of the 3 atm?

[coarse tide]

ppl join the train mission then insta quit

[sharp echo]

XII

the blue

imo

[coarse tide]

thats how you know its a fun mission

[faint beacon]

its fun

I really enjoy it

im just waiting for people to learn how to play said mission lmao

[blissful cliff]

Do you double heavy into block cancel for the horde clear combo?

Or heavy heavy light?

[sharp echo]

The hack on it stresses me out so much

[red robin]

i honestly thought there would be a penance for keeping all 3 in the center

without touching the border

[sharp echo]

don't give them ideas

[tall torrent]

@faint beacon check this out

[sharp echo]

for some people it's impossible

[red robin]

I got meth head fingers

[sharp echo]

the 1200 RPM is what does it for me

[red robin]

shocking how i never developed carpal tunnel

[sharp echo]

Have you tried celerity stim on the XII???

[orchid hemlock]

ITS NOW HORIZONTAL????

[tall torrent]

[faint beacon]

We might need to update Stagger BPs btw cause Falter was actually buffed

I know its shit

[sharp echo]

what makes deathspitter better than infernus??

[faint beacon]

but like its better than not knowing

[tall torrent]

yea ik

infantry & helbore lasguns

[faint beacon]

Overall increase to damage

[tall torrent]

in the new format

[faint beacon]

you tend to want to be close when using Recons

[tall torrent]

higher dps vs elite waves

which is what recon is good at

[sharp echo]

hm

already been clearing auric mael with dumdum and infernus wonder what i can accomplish with deathspitter then

just funny to burn hordes with it ngl

[tall torrent]

I realized I could condense it further with horizontal layout

In case I need to add new things below in the same page

[blissful cliff]

What blessings and perks should i be running on the MK6 knife?

[silent swift]

hi anyone else noticed that the powersword is bugged after the update? I make the special move, activate it then hit and the hit is not empowered O.o makes the powersword goofy ass trash

[west arch]

I'm still struggling to put a build together for a crit recon

[toxic leaf]

getting hit while powering cancels the powering

[silent swift]

I know, not playin for the first time xD

[umbral nest]

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good build for bolt pistol and dueling sword?

[silent swift]

the blast radius blessing seems to buff grenade blasts as well. so a grenade build is awesome with these 2

[blissful cliff]

This is what i'm running with mine

I need a better Bistol though, i think if i had max stats and dumped mobility i'd actually one-two shot a lot of breakpoints

The melee weapon is preference btw

Could easily use a DS instead of the knife and be just as if not even more effective

[noble depot]

So i've played like 12 hours but ive jumped between Vet, Zea and Psy but i cant tell which one i like, Zea and Vet feel so similar early game and the perk tree is a bit scatter for me to understand their differents othe than "more dmg in x"

Does anyone have a resource that explains the differences better? Since Vet/Zea use the same sort of weapons, where as Psy have their own magic weapons

[silent swift]

more or less became the fkin same. the only difference is. vet provides a bit more team oriented stuff, while zealot has better solo survival stuff

[noble depot]

Zealot cant fully aim down sight on guns right? is this forever? is is there like a perk for it?

[silent swift]

no no

[noble depot]

I liked the charge over "ranged mode"

[silent swift]

that is due to the weapon you use. check if you use a braced autogun

[noble depot]

ok I can take a look after this

[somber axle]

Vet has a hidden mechanic no one uses

[silent swift]

braced autoguns and shredder autopistol can't aim down sight. but infanty autoguns and so an can.

[somber axle]

If you crouch behind waist high cover and use your aim down sights button your Vet will peek over the cover to shoot

If you stop aiming you duck back down

No one uses this

Only Vet can do this

[noble depot]

I saw this happen

[silent swift]

because it is more or less useless xD in a game where mobility is ALL

[red robin]

game needs a lean mechanic with that too

[silent swift]

it is more like a useless easter egg xD

[noble depot]

I have the braced auto gun

and you dont aim down sight with it?

wait ahh

other way around

[silent swift]

nope you can't. you just switch in a hord clearing hip fire mode

play the infanrty autogun. with it you can aim down sight

[noble depot]

I'd send a screenshot but we cant

but i see it

[blissful cliff]

Unlike vet, zealot most of the time just wants to be in melee

Where as vet gets more benefits from using their ranged weapons

Also vet grenades imo are more impactful

[silent swift]

yea and can be played so you have infinte of em

[noble depot]

I didnt really like the grenade

ive only played like 6 hours in this update

i played like last year before they did the big like changes

[toxic leaf]

vet grenades are not more impactful, you just have more of them

[noble depot]

that was still only like 6 hours too

[blissful cliff]

I’m running that right now >:)

[toxic leaf]

immolation nade is like the best nade ever

stun sucks compared to frag though

[silent swift]

yea one of the best and most fun builds for me as well atm. range builds got butchered too many times sadly

[noble depot]

I want to melee too, but i just found the nont aim aim down sight really annoying for like 10m+ shooting

[blissful cliff]

That’s because you’re using the braced autogun

That’s not class specific

[noble depot]

and ive figured that out now, so i might try zealot more