veteran-class

[solemn pelican]

Tragic

[fading yarrow]

Dukane sounds dangerously cute

I may no longer be joking about marrying her

Quick note about the mission btw

I love the minigame

It's harder with stick drift but it feels perfect for the premise of the mission

[hoary gate]

What are the new Veteran taxes and what does a shotgun build look like?

[fading yarrow]

Feels like years are going by when you only have seconds, and I love that getting knocked out of it saves progress

[fading yarrow]

Veteran's taxes remain unpaid

[hollow rose]

sounds like typical asshole commisar

also, jesus people cant deal with train mission

like, at all

every time i finish it with like 10-15 seconds left, and I'm usually the one who does the bombs and destroys the computers at the end

[errant sable]

funny how people are being thrown off the sides at the end by the shield knock back

[fading yarrow]

If asshole commissar then why cute

[hollow rose]

she talks shit to my reject who can solo a nurgle beast

she ain't her

[last parcel]

she has a cute asshole

[hollow rose]

pfp checks out

[frank ether]

update was supposed to come out tomorrow so its kinda understandable

new rotation would push out old stuff out of the shop so it would feel unfair to anyone who wanted to buy something last day

[tall torrent]

I woke up this morning seeing the update then seeing half the weapons’ names got changed

[frank ether]

one of many issues with rotating shop but alas

[tall torrent]

I think I’ve update their names in HotE guide but I don’t have them memorized

[frank ether]

I'm very confused with helbores rn

[tall torrent]

IIIa = balance
IV = damage
V = speed

[frank ether]

also bit of a bummer there aren't any like, blessings specific to helbore bayonets, or like, not that I know of at least

I know they added some cleave blessing but Idk if that works on bayo

[tall torrent]

Don’t bother, the cleave blessing is ass

[frank ether]

as I suspected

[tall torrent]

It’s +50% cleave, not +50 cleave

If it was +50 cleave I’d run it

[frank ether]

ayaya

I wish helbores weren't made to be infinite ammo spam weapons

[hollow rose]

still, rare Fatshark W

[frank ether]

like I'd much prefer hard hitter, low ammo stick with overtuned bayonet as a defining feature

[tall torrent]

Now I just need to figure out how to make FSR3.1 FG not blow up my pc

[frank ether]

I think nerfing BM was the wrong way to go about these weapons, they gutted a pretty unique interaction

[fleet garden]

turn it off

[faint beacon]

They gave us the update early

im not complaining

[fleet garden]

frame gen is garbanzo ngl

[faint beacon]

I knew it was going to be on the ropes

[frank ether]

It works pretty well for me but hey, amd gpu

[tall torrent]

I kinda need FG for it to not blow up in the first place

[faint beacon]

I'd rather have it now vs waiting till tomorrow

[fleet garden]

im running dlss with balanced or auto and it works fine but with fg it felt bad

[frank ether]

also updated FSR actually doesn't look like ass, colour me suprised

[tall torrent]

Day 1 gameplay
5 hours of playtime
4 hours on board the mourningstar

[frank ether]

I can actually run FSR quality and not feel like throwing up, damn

2 years in the making

[oblique totem]

I like the heavy sword

[frank ether]

yes, its fantastic

its everything I ever wanted to do on vet

boltpistol + saber

[hollow rose]

i just had a guy leave the mission because he said that update made his game run in 30fps and its unplayable

[frank ether]

they auto enabled FSR frame gen for everyone which is funny

[faint beacon]

Oh yeah someone uploaded this for those who want to listen to Rolling Steel's OST without the High Stress Action happening

[frank ether]

because its very much not something you want auto enabled for people

[faint beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWMIL_M47E8

[stable socket]

yeah new update auto enables some new AMD thing that completely tanks your FPS, i turned it off and back to normal

[faint beacon]

till Jepser Officially releases it or Fatshark

[frank ether]

framegen is a very casual thing

it gives you visual frames but your input lag is ass

so if you're getting 30 frames your input is already terrible to begin with, and then framegen makes it even worse

I'd only recommend turning it on if you get good fps (like 90+ but some would say 60 is tolerable) at which point its kind of a moot point

[faint beacon]

you will be subjected to NOTHING

[sleek garden]

okay so this map always needs someone who can shoot bad guys at long range

[faint beacon]

but Zarona users

[faint beacon]

Map is fucking amazing imo

[sleek garden]

im playing ogryn with a ripper on rolling steel but the shooters are out of control and i had two zealots

i love the map

[faint beacon]

though it could use with an extra minute on the timer

its extremely punishing

[sleek garden]

but its pain when three snipers are shooting at me as on ogryn and my teammates cant stop to hit them

[faint beacon]

The painful part is the Dreg Champion

if your team doesn't know how to fight them

[sleek garden]

dude he just ledges people

hes not even hard

he just hits you with the shockwave that ledges three people

[faint beacon]

Literally minutes can be wasted on him

[slow spade]

that's why you just queue with 4 ogryns

easy train mission

[tall torrent]

My pc is weird, I don’t get much input lag increase from it

[sleek garden]

the commisar talks funny

i like it

[tall torrent]

Only like 10ms

[frank ether]

It has some tech included to reduce input lag, if you were severely gpu limited before chances are it might feel the same or even better

[tall torrent]

It’s tolerable for me

I was using DLSS3-to-FSR3 frame gen mod before

[frank ether]

but imo I'd rather turn it off and run reflex if on nvidia, at least personally

[frank ether]

thats not bad

[tall torrent]

My issue rn is that

FSR3 frame gen ignores my framerate cap

I cap mine to 90, it frame gens to 120

And my power spikes

[torn gorge]

[last parcel]

then don’t look at it

[umbral scaffold]

you can always change it

[torn gorge]

[tame lodge]

Psst, Gauntlet has a shit ton of suppression

[torn gorge]

you can 1 tap hound with that i assume?

[faint beacon]

I find that wild how

this is one of the few guns that unironically needs Infested for a BP lmao

[torn gorge]

did the changes to bolt weapons address that for the other 2?

[tall torrent]

Most guns can’t even 1 tap Poxburster

[flat pebble]

i think with a crit both should OHK dogs now

[torn gorge]

meh

[flat pebble]

surg on bolter on vet is what you should be using anyway so

it’s cool

[sleek garden]

i wanna use the ripper tho

[bold ibex]

Did fatshark release an update focused on weapon crafting changes, but disable the weapon crafting systems until an undefined date?

[sleek garden]

i tried rumbler just now but same problem, teammates arent bringing range

[flat pebble]

no? they just had maintenance this morning so they turned off some stuff briefly

[pearl sapphire]

We get the steel legion drip tomorrow right?

[flat pebble]

god willing

[sleek garden]

morrow calls the 53rd the steelheads

careful what you wish for

[pearl sapphire]

Raise high the banners of vengeance, brother!

[bold ibex]

and is it turned back on?

because none of the crafting options are enabled for me

[tame lodge]

Uh
Check collaterals for the suppression value
Yeah?

[sleek garden]

go into your inventory and check the mastery

[flat pebble]

some people are reporting problems but yeah I haven’t had any issues using the systems

[sleek garden]

im using it with terrifying barrage lol but im using the horde clear variant

[jade estuary]

that build fit in VoC and all the dmg buffs off it too (CQK/Marksman)? or taking stuff like 5% ranged dmg node

[flat pebble]

3 of those perks make me twitch

[sleek garden]

dang my graia isnt one shotting scab guard anymore

[flat pebble]

i believe you that they are useful it just seems so weird

[sleek garden]

or columnus now

whatever

[jade estuary]

o sad

whatcu taking instead?

[sleek garden]

i just discovered you can use weapons specialists and exec stance

incredible

[fathom edge]

are these swords any good?

[flat pebble]

weak spot, infested and unarmored. the latter of which probably the least, just weird to see specifically on a revolver

yeah I get that I’m just sayin

[jade estuary]

rending strikes even on rashad/revolver?

[flat pebble]

most revolvers I see are a combination of flak/maniac/elite/cara

[round plover]

what blessings do you guys take for the mk 6 catachan ..?

and perks if ur feeling froggy

[dire lagoon]

Does anyone know if switching between weapon makes is currently bugged? When I switch marks all my stats go to 100% and the attacks pattenrs are displayed incorrectly. But maybe this is all visual and it will work ok in game?

[obsidian halo]

powersword charge has bug right now?

[flat pebble]

should just be visual

[obsidian halo]

the duration of charge donot feel right

[torn moat]

Is recon lasgun good again? Or still meh?

[fading yarrow]

MK III or MK VI? III is fine

[obsidian halo]

MK VI

[tame lodge]

Good
They've been adjusted

Search for Sneaky Cat and recon

You'll like it

[midnight totem]

ugh

I am not looking forward to redoing 25 skill trees

[serene bough]

i just dumped most of my 75k plasteel to level some weapons i wont be interested in using

[sullen scarab]

For laspistol, is Flak+5% crit the best for it?

[torn moat]

That's not the infernus build? Any link to a skill tree?

[torn moat]

The old one from back in like April?

[tame lodge]

Yeah from Gloriana

[tranquil bronze]

Okay wow... Infiltrator is fun... how did I not do this build sooner?

[torn moat]

Yeah. I am just seeing that. But cool. I take it the mkVI (old name) is best for this?

[tranquil bronze]

My bread and butter

[pearl sapphire]

I am attempting saber

[torn moat]

Before the patch, dueling sword was my fav melee in the game. I'm interested to see how it handles on Vet

[elder fiber]

not sure I'm gonna even bother building a ds on zealot after using it on vet

[pliant spire]

Fellas, i was feeding hadron with weapons all evening, and maxed out every mastery except staffs and power sword on psyker, but my plasma gun and power sword penances didnt cout for veteran. Send help

[pine halo]

rq if I max out a mastery, I can just upgrade the gun to it's max potential right?

anything lock anymore?

[inland orchid]

Nuh uh

No locks

[pine halo]

hell yeah, thanks for the replies

[abstract flare]

Feeding her weapons is a funny way of putting it

Nom nom

[inland orchid]

With the rate we’re passing them to her and the other techpriests in the floor?

Yea there’s a conveyor belt’s worth at this point

[abstract flare]

They're eating good

[neon briar]

did they fix melee weak spot damage?

[pliant spire]

Noone has the same problem? Wifh mastery penance not working?

[elder fiber]

sorry, nope

and I maxed a ton of shit

[pliant spire]

Fuuuk meee

[elder fiber]

report it on fatshark forums

[pliant spire]

Gonna max out psyker tomorrow, and see if they are connected 🤷‍♂️

[pearl sapphire]

Actually kinda nice

Chews through everything

Def requires krak nades unless I’m messing up with the sword (haven’t used it at all until today)

[elder fiber]

? Why would ds need krak nades you can 2shot crushers v easy

[pearl sapphire]

Idk, just easier

[elder fiber]

ds is already an elite murderer, I'd rather take shredders to help with clearing/rager mobs unless you're going for v specific pathing

[pearl sapphire]

Fair

[neon briar]

ahh gotcha, makes sense. im gonna try out your build, ty

[red robin]

damn

new update is insane

night and day

next dream update is performance fix

[tranquil bronze]

Wow, already passed halfway to getting the Infiltrator outfit

[neon briar]

the 25% weapon swap speed combined with always prepared is soo good

[tranquil bronze]

What's the blessing for CAxe again? Headtaker and BM?

[abstract flare]

Always prepared?

[neon briar]

swap to melee after ranged kill to reload % of mag

[elder fiber]

yes

[tranquil bronze]

And Flakniac for perks right?

[vagrant osprey]

Sorry for the dumb question, I'm a loot hoarder and am so scared to sacrifice my weapons lol. I'm still kinda new to the game, what should I be looking at to tell if I keep a weapon? Just filter by rating and look at the Max% a gun can reach at its max upgrade?

Some of my 500+ gear isn't at the top of my rating filter and so I'm being a bit cautious

[elder fiber]

iirc you want unarmoured to help reach 1tap bp on scab dregs, 2nd like flak or w/e preference

[serene bough]

so does melks Random Weapons assortment also give max stats?

[elder fiber]

@vagrant osprey check the pins for links to guides on important stats, perks and blessings per weapon. Generally you want to be able to reach 80% in every dmg stat, 51% minimum in mobility for max dodge count

[vagrant osprey]

appreciate you 🙏

[fervent quiver]

so who remembers which weapon is which?

[last parcel]

i just reference this every time

[fervent quiver]

same bro

same

[winter dock]

Are the server maintenance thingies not done yet?

Ah there we go, restart fixed that one

[molten anvil]

Fast Veteran

Zealots fear me

[fervent quiver]

which autogun is that?

[winter dock]

I definitely did not get as many blessing points as I am owed though

I had several tier 4 blessings on my infantry lasguns, and I only got enought points to go up to tier 2 -_-

gonna relog again

[fervent quiver]

oh the columbus

[winter dock]

maybe its fucked up

[molten anvil]

Columnus got renamed

[fervent quiver]

christ this is not going to stick in my head

too many scrubs are rejoining the game and can't do the new mission

pain

[wise wren]

whats the best combo on plasma gun rn?

[thick rose]

which heavy sword?

[fading yarrow]

I just realized
I don't need to care about Melk's items anymore
I can just buy his Transcendents to boost my weapons

[wise wren]

is it gets hot + gloryhunter/blaze away

[fervent quiver]

how the frak does anything work anymore

[midnight totem]

you know

I think the power sword was nerfed

[fervent quiver]

which one?

[midnight totem]

mk6

maybe the mk3 too

did it always lose charge on getting hit by anything?

[fervent quiver]

always

always was a thing

[fallen plinth]

so i guess "rising heat" is suppose to be "energy leakage" from patch notes

[midnight totem]

I could have swore it at least resisted one poxwalker hit

[winter dock]

Ohkay yeah no

they fucked my progression

[fervent quiver]

mayhap, I never depended on that

[winter dock]

That whole thing about "oh don't worry you'll still have access to whatever blessings you had before, in fact you'll get to chang them" was a load of bullshit

I've lost access to tier 3 and 4 entirely

on most of my guns

and my "max power" is 200

[fervent quiver]

the rating is now the max power

regardless of blessing

[winter dock]

tbh I wasn't expecting much from amx power cuz I had msot of the weapons I cared about. But losing access to ALL of my tier 3 and 4 blessings

that is bullshit

[last parcel]

did you go to the mastery menu in the inventory yet

[winter dock]

Yes?

That's literally what I'm talking about?

[hybrid token]

i have full mastery on 80% of my weapons

[tame lodge]

Did you unlock them?

[winter dock]

This is basically what they all look like. I went through great effort to grind out as many blessings as I could, even picking up worthless tier 1 and 2 blessings even when I already had the good tier 3 and fours

[serene bough]

if you had mostly t3 and t4 blessings you should be near the end of that weapons mastery track

if you were missing a lot then you gotta re earn

[hybrid token]

plasma gun is a bit different since they added like 5 blessings so no one has good mastery on it

[arctic rampart]

any plugins need updating?

[hybrid token]

but if you had all the blessings of a weapon it should be fully maxed

[tame lodge]

There's another interface

[winter dock]

yeah I know, when u click blessings menu

thats what I was looking at I just backed out 1 to show that the problem persisted for all weapons

At this rate it's gonna be awhile bfore I can actually change any of my weapons

I basically don't get to enjoy the benefits of the update for a hundred hours playtime at least :/

[hybrid token]

all my stuff came in already maxed or near enough to max that i could get whatever blessings

[azure venture]

hey anyone else encountering some issues with the power sword? like the animation and sound plays but the attacks are uncharged

[winter dock]

my shotguns at least came in pretty close

thank fuck

[last parcel]

if you had a majority of t3 and t4 blessings sacrificed in the library before the update, something went wrong and you should contact fatshark support

[hybrid token]

if youre mastery levels are at like 7 then you had no blessings unlocked

coz thats what my bolt pistol mastery is at and i unlocked literally fuck all for that

everything else is 14+

[winter dock]

I had nearly all t1s and t2s, and maybe half of all the 3s and 4s for the weapons I used (which for guns was all of them except the "sidearm" type weapons; and for melee was power swords, chainaxes, chainswords, and shovel)

for a couple of them I had maybe only 3 or 4 3s/4s due to bad luck, but for pretty much all of them I had the "important" blessings

had just barely enough to get the recon lasguns, thank god

my las and autoguns got fucked hard t.t

infantry autoguns worked out... so it looks like what happened is that for the 3ish weapon groups that I got unlucky on and only had the 3/4 versions of the 2/3 blessings that were relevant to those weapon groups, I got fucked and did not have enough to get back up to tier 3/4

so I basically sat right in the worst possible sweetspot

woooo

[midnight totem]

I was at 15 recon since I didn't unlock enough blessings

And then I realised I had like, 8 green blue recons in my inventory

[winter dock]

Oh yeah I forgot that exists. Lets see how much money I got to burn

[midnight totem]

Sacrificed them all, easy mastery 20

I have to say, I'm not fond of the mastery skin

Red's not my color

But, more cosmetics is a good thing, I suppose

[dim perch]

Duelling sword fucks. That is all.

[obsidian halo]

If MK6 is just charged and takes damage from enemy, it will also result in canceling the charging.

I don't know if it's a bug or a change

[wise wren]

Hey whats the best curio setup for vet? 2 tough and an hp or 3 tough

[midnight totem]

Whatever covers your needs

[tame lodge]

Enough for 200 HP I guess

[wise wren]

and then for minor perks toughness regen toughness and gunner resist?

[midnight totem]

I run, 2 stamina regen, 1 spring efficiency, one corruption resist, one sniper resist, one gunner resist

[somber axle]

If you get at least +34% HP from curios, curio perks and talents it will allow you to eat multiple poxburster pops without going down/dying. And with a sniper resist you can eat multiple sniper shots too

[midnight totem]

That leaves me with 3 nodes for toughness or health, and I usually go one tough two health

[somber axle]

I've been running triple toughness for fun lately though

[wise wren]

also does vet have a document with like the recommended blessings/traits

[midnight totem]

Vanguard my beloved, I miss you

[dire lagoon]

have you guys tried this new weapon yet?

[drifting oak]

hit the enemies of the emperor with a pipe

ogyrn clobber looking kinda slim there

[somber axle]

You can do 1 HP curio (21%), HP perks on all curios (5% x 3) and still hit the HP breakpoint but there are also 2 HP talents. Alternatively you van get 2 HP curios and use your curio perks for whatever but it limits your options for the big curio stat

[dire lagoon]

MK III shovel is bugged

[somber axle]

Yeah check pins here

[midnight totem]

-shakes Sneaky- THEY TOOK AWAY MY ZOOMIES

[somber axle]

It's ok triple sprint efficiency on all curios is still here for us

And even funnier if you have at least one stamina curio

[midnight totem]

I always run one 3 Stam curio

[torn moat]

Are the pins up to date? Newest one I'm seeing is from 2023?

edit nvm I see 2024

[dire lagoon]

do people still run toughness regen a lot?

[midnight totem]

but still

MY ZOOMIES

[rugged drift]

What Blessings? Thrust and Uncanny? or Precog?

[tall torrent]

Yes

[somber axle]

Make sure to look at the WIP link because the pdf is the old version and it is out of date

[tame lodge]

Not really

[somber axle]

No and it's only for Ogryns

[dim perch]

I use Uncanny Strike and Agile

[somber axle]

Toughness regen on curios only affects coherency regen

It does not boost toughness from kills or talents

[midnight totem]

I used to run one but, the use you get out of it is... eh

Not good

[fading yarrow]

I've had to kill two Daemonhosts as an underpowered knife boi

[tame lodge]

There's a small case with Zealot's fellowship

Other than those Tough gen ain't it

[fading yarrow]

I only have t3 blessings available atm and my knife had like, 8% melee weakspot damage and 8% crit chance or something

And riposte

[midnight totem]

anyway, gonna take a break, play some space marine

[fading yarrow]

I took off a fifth of a Daemonhost's health on Malice with a dodge attack

[torn gorge]

and it was probably still way faster than 9/10 of the other melee weapons at max

[tall torrent]

It’s so nice looking at all my weapons being godroll

[fading yarrow]

Ikr

[torn gorge]

whats the default helbore cleave?

[tall torrent]

3 R.cleave

With hotshot u get 4.5 when u hit weakspot

Tooltip says +50, it’s actually +50%

[torn gorge]

[tall torrent]

If it was +50 cleave I’d take it all the time

[torn gorge]

one could only hope

[last parcel]

weakspot version of manstopper

[midnight totem]

manstopper hellbore

HELSTOPPER

[torn gorge]

have you tried armourbane?

[tame lodge]

And with marksman you get extra 20%

[tall torrent]

It’s mid, kinda

[serene bough]

man

5k penance points is such a grind

[torn gorge]

so many new blessings

[serene bough]

reee

[torn gorge]

so many missed opportunities

[tall torrent]

Helbore doesn’t have particular weak ADMs

[torn gorge]

[tall torrent]

I reached it just by spamming weapon mastery

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3392281

[tall torrent]

I have every ranged weapon on veteran at full mastery now

All their skins unlocked

[serene bough]

im almost there

2 more to go

then i gotta do ogryns junk

[tall torrent]

I’m debating whether I want to use the red mechanicus skins or the ones I bought from shop

They should do a feature for random skin equip ngl

Randomized weapon skins

[fading yarrow]

H o w

[last parcel]

built diff

[torn gorge]

its v easy

i have almost all human melee weapons mastery as well

wdym

[fading yarrow]

Actually, nvm, I immediately thought of at least three ways you could've done it already

[tall torrent]

Let’s say u want to lvl boltgun mastery
Buy a bunch of boltguns from brunt’s armory
Upgrade each to green (costs ~107 plasteel each)
Sacrifice all of them towards Boltgun mastery

If the sacrificed weapon is in the same family as the weapon u want to progress

U get 8~9k mastery XP per sacrifice

You can brute force it with the power of being rich

[fading yarrow]

I have 1.6 mil

[torn gorge]

like IRL

[fading yarrow]

Time to cause some inflation

[tall torrent]

I spent 1.6M already

Wait no, 2M already

Today

And 43k plasteel

[fierce spoke]

This a worthy purchase from Brunt, for my Vet?
If not, what is the Dump stat for the Bolt Pistol?

[serene bough]

love new map btw

is fun

[bold ibex]

yup, that's fine

probably about the best you could hope for tbh

[umbral parrot]

Was the stamina regen always there? I don't recall....

[serene bough]

no, thats new

[tall torrent]

No, I think new

[last parcel]

no it's new

[umbral parrot]

Badass

[tall torrent]

Deadshot synergy ?

But

Man I wish MF was more intuitive

[umbral parrot]

Don't you mean more aggressive?

Don't forget, Helbore now has cleave as well. You can rake up A LOT with Hotshot

[serene bough]

nice try deadshot

ill still never use you

[umbral parrot]

Lol

[tall torrent]

I wish MF was smth like
You have 10 stacks of focus active, each giving u a ranged finesse buff
Non-weakspot hits drop stacks
Weakspot kills gain stacks back

[tall torrent]

Hotshot gives u 1.5 more cleave on headshot, it’s pretty meh

It’s +50% to 3 cleave, not +50 cleave

[umbral parrot]

Oh.... darn

[last parcel]

lol get fatshark descriptions'd

[umbral parrot]

I like this!

I hate moving and WHOOPS, lost your tick.

[serene bough]

either system for MF works for me

[somber axle]

At last I can do Deadshot with MF instead of being forced into FT and TD

[fading yarrow]

Shrimple as
13 to 20 in four minutes

[tranquil bronze]

Got it

[tall torrent]

My problem is rly just
I have to be engaged in killing stuff already to get stacks and benefit

I cannot start fights with it active

[fading yarrow]

Also this is deeply satisfying to me

[umbral parrot]

Ahh i gotcha

[somber axle]

The 10% stamina per weakspot kill seems like it's just better than Target Down as long as you can consistently land the shots

[tall torrent]

Laspistol infinite deadshot meme

[somber axle]

With proper timing to keep it at minimum 2 stacks you're just breaking even with Target Down

[tall torrent]

[somber axle]

But at least Target Down provides the benefits squadwide

[tall torrent]

IAG infinite deadshot meme

[serene bough]

all that extra work just to drain your stam and become a cripple

[tranquil bronze]

New fav outfit

[torn gorge]

my mk1 is ready for it

[tall torrent]

I wish IAG1 was better

[torn gorge]

although i wanna try the whatever the new name the old mk7 hh was

[tall torrent]

Yea

[torn gorge]

ye

you can 1 tap crit gunners with enough stacks

[tall torrent]

Mk8 is my preferred IAG

[torn gorge]

of the left capstone

was that the old graia?

[somber axle]

Is the Moebian 21st event active

[tall torrent]

Yea

[serene bough]

which braced autogun is the best

[tall torrent]

No, tmr

[tall torrent]

Mk8

[serene bough]

havent used since launch

[somber axle]

Thanks

[torn gorge]

i played with it a lot but at some point it felt a bit spongy?

[somber axle]

I'm curious how much harder it will be

[pearl sapphire]

So far the ledges on the train are a PitA but it’s fun

[umbral parrot]

Speaking of, don;t you think it's crazy that Nurgle's 'blessings' are affecting more Mobian regiments!?

[tall torrent]

It’s just collect Grims & scriptures it can’t be that hard

[umbral parrot]

It really is not if it's outside of Maelstrom mission.

[somber axle]

We're losing the war but we have a new regiment helping now. The 53rd or something? The people with the train

[serene bough]

wish these events were less frequent but gave cosmetics

[fading yarrow]

Btw, could y'all remind me of a good Blessing combo for the chainsword? Mk IV

[somber axle]

I more mean the new enemies

The 21st will be new targets yeah?

[pearl sapphire]

53rd steel legion isn’t it

[umbral parrot]

It also makes no sense. WE ARE the 21st too!

[last parcel]

Moebian 53rd

[tall torrent]

Moebian 53rd

[umbral parrot]

It's one of our free cosmetics.

[tall torrent]

We’re not part of the 21st

[serene bough]

from what i understand its just tankier horde enemies

[tall torrent]

Just like how getting loyalist 6th doesn’t make our characters part of the 6th

[last parcel]

some 21st troopers got infected by a plague

[somber axle]

The 21st Recon people are the funny blue dudes we see at the start of a lot of missions and also from the trailer who just sorta hold ground and get shot to pieces by Wolfer's men for the Karnak Twins video

[pearl sapphire]

Ok

[umbral parrot]

Then explain this!

[somber axle]

We're Inquisition

[tall torrent]

Yea, just because you’re given Moebian 21st gear doesn’t mean you’re part of the 21st

[last parcel]

we're not part of the death korps of krieg either but we have those cosmetics

[umbral parrot]

Oh....

[tall torrent]

Explain Moebian 6th loyalist Armor then

[umbral parrot]

SO my Cadian is not really Cadian?

[serene bough]

actually

[umbral parrot]

Loyalist 6th members who got gobbled up within a prison ship?

[serene bough]

being part of all these regiments would explain the massive plot armour our characters have for mowing down thousands of nurgle cultists and demons

were just so good were part of every regiment

[tall torrent]

Loyalist 6th are all dead, purged on Nox Alpha

[last parcel]

nah not me

i died but i lived

[serene bough]

true

[umbral parrot]

Not me. I'd win.

FINE

Then we're actually part of the Mobian 737 then, right?

[tall torrent]

No

[umbral parrot]

Then explain this!?

[tall torrent]

We’re inquisitorial warband, not part of the imperial guard anymore

[umbral parrot]

Oh right

Forgot about that.

FORMER Mobian 6th, Cadian, Mobian 21st, and Mobian 737th is what i'm trying to say.

[tall torrent]

Former Moebian 6th is all dead

Cadian 802nd gear is lore justified

Moebian 737th is lore justified

Moebian 21st, we’re not a part of

[umbral parrot]

I don't know, my cosmetics that i paid top dollar says otherwise.

[tall torrent]

21st set is not paid tho

[umbral parrot]

It's not!? I want my money back!

[fading yarrow]

That's not 737, that's 73•7
73rd something, 7th subsomething

[last parcel]

you paid by having to experience early darktide

[midnight totem]

We're actually just wannabe blood ravens

Stealing everything

For the emperor

[serene bough]

man

[umbral parrot]

STOP, you're going to ruin my immersion!

[serene bough]

reading darktides backstory on the wiki makes me wish there was proper world building in the game

[hexed pike]

Real

[umbral parrot]

Yea, i would love if the main ship we're at had logs for us to read.

Reading wiki and the lame #theorycrafting people come up with is really interesting.

[last parcel]

check out a lore book from hestia's library

[umbral parrot]

Hmm!?

[last parcel]

i'll be she has a bunch

[umbral parrot]

❤️

[serene bough]

shes kind of ugly i dont want to borrow her things

[regal belfry]

Do some now use duelling swords?

[umbral parrot]

Yea, we can now. It's cool but i've not yet tried it

Mainly since Power Sword and Chain Swords are my fav

[fading yarrow]

Your squad ain't gonna see you again

[regal belfry]

I gonna still use power swords and shovel on vet

[hollow turtle]

Lol. I think I'm going to need to disable my mods until they're all updated for this.

Keep crashing out.

[regal belfry]

I gonna need to Sort Out some for sure

Likely everything which has to do with inventory

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043910914027561000/1288685774165774357/image.png?ex=66f615a7&is=66f4c427&hm=a0133b3a5d8d633f53f828350ddc911339aec9f9991d380c9ad28ac5523a435f&

True level seems to be fine but

The rest yea

[last parcel]

a few of those also just got updated

[hollow turtle]

Oof. That's definitely some of mine. My crash report is saying its something to do with DMF, but I'm a little too lazy to read all of it.

[rose gale]

what's the usual dump stat for helbore lasguns ?

[tall torrent]

Stability

[hollow turtle]

I know MyFavorites might be an obsolete mod now

[tall torrent]

Ya it’s not needed anymore

[hollow turtle]

And perhaps barter with hadron.

[crude fiber]

that last bit is new right?

[slow spade]

I don't recall seeing that

But I don't use Marksmen Focus so I might be blind

[tall torrent]

Yes new

[rapid hedge]

Finally brothers! The power sword I've waited for since launch !

[hollow turtle]

Ah Fuck. Didn't notice that my talent trees were wiped

[crude fiber]

helbors got some nice boosts with these couple of small changes to the talent tree

[umbral parrot]

Hah! Lacks Mobility!

Your feet my battle brother! Don't neglect it!

Still, i'd have you in a narrow hallway anyday.

[rapid hedge]

do five 80% weapon stats even exist o_0

[rapid hedge]

Ogryn carry me i just swing sword B)

[rose gale]

got a better infantry lasgun but i can't bear to replace my og, been using this thing since the first week of the game

[crude fiber]

no, mobility tends to be pretty bad on power swords and if your using brutal momentum then cleave target stat doesnt do much so it would be the dump stat over mobility. still a very well rolled one you have though

[rapid hedge]

ah so i should make cleave the dump stat if i got brutal momentum

ty

[crude fiber]

if it was the mk3 power sword with sunder instead of brutal momentum then you might want higher cleave just as a heads up

[fading yarrow]

I'm a happy camper

[tranquil bronze]

Is the Mk VI power sword still the better one?

[hollow turtle]

Ah. I see they made the refresh on kill a default part of the exe stance

[slow spade]

Better overall but MK3 Sunder is still a good option

[torn gorge]

when are we getting more inquisitorial-appropriate skins though?

collabs and other regiments are fine but

[tranquil bronze]

I definitely want an Inquisitorial Stormtrooper outfit

[rapid hedge]

aite i fixed it

higher mobility one is better right

[flat pebble]

can’t remember if cleave targets is the dump stat for a bm roll or a sunder roll but yes

[rapid hedge]

i basically got 2 rolls maxed only difference is between cleave targets and mobilty

i feel like cleave targets is the dump and not cleave damage o_0

[low wagon]

absolutely, most important stat on psword

[rapid hedge]

wait cleave damage for BM?

[tall torrent]

Idk
I think the best we’ll get is tempestus scion if they don’t fumble the armor

[torn gorge]

[tall torrent]

I’m pretty content with what I have rn

[winter dock]

Has anyone tested if puncture on boltgun applies to everything in the explosion radius or just the single target?

[rapid hedge]

i thougt BM increased the number of enemies hit with each slice so the first 4 who gets hit by the swing takes max damge o-0

[trim steppe]

Man, I got over 1 mil ordos just from discarding most (not all) of the junk weapons on just my veteran

[torn gorge]

ye, im happy with the regiments skins

dont get me wrong

[tall torrent]

[torn gorge]

but the og inquisitorial gear starts to feel outdated at this point

[flat pebble]

awwww ur zealot got his silly pajamas on

[rapid hedge]

whats the dump stat for plasma bois. Charge rate or thermal resistance?

[flat pebble]

charge rate

[tall torrent]

I didn’t buy the older zealot cosmetic stuff

[tall torrent]

None

[rapid hedge]

AMMO? O_O

[slow spade]

The first thing people tested, it does not

[winter dock]

Charge rate

being able to charge super fast isn't really important

[tall torrent]

Look for smth like this

[winter dock]

it makes u fire faster yeah

[slow spade]

Charge rate. 80% to 69% is a 0.06s difference

[winter dock]

but that still doesn't matter that much

[flat pebble]

I don’t think it adds damage, just reduces the delay on your light attack

[winter dock]

even as a "dump" stat you still fire decently fast

thermal resist at max lets you charge full shots from 80% heat

[slow spade]

Not by a relevant amount anymore

[winter dock]

so you can chain them wit hgets hot at max bonus

[tall torrent]

Not needed at max, just 69% or higher

[tall torrent]

This is the template for godroll plasma

Hits every breakpoint & QoL feature

[slow spade]

Yeah when they fixed the plasma audio bug a long time ago they tweaked charge rate to not affect it as much

[winter dock]

Oh, I figured u needed max. Still helps to mitigate suicide tho xd

[slow spade]

It still affects it but by like 1%

[tall torrent]

U can’t blow up from plasma without using charged shots so it doesn’t matter

[flat pebble]

oh I forgot about that

yeah they adjusted the charge rate damage thing ages ago

[winter dock]

I do occasionally charge shot at slightly over 80% because this game is hectic and its not possible to be 100% perfect all the time, so yes it does matter

[slow spade]

80% charge rate vs 69% charge rate is a 0.06 sec difference (source: my 2 plasma guns)

So charge rate is a dump stat compared to ammo

[tall torrent]

What enemy do u need to charge shot tho

[trim steppe]

If I found one with 70 CR and 70 TR, is that ideal or subpar

[slow spade]

Poxwalker

[winter dock]

Bosses, usually. Or hordes of armored stuff

[flat pebble]

kek

[winter dock]

charge shot gets mad cleave so its good for killing multiple ragers/maraduers

[slow spade]

I only charge shot vs bursters that I need to die now

[flat pebble]

i do not charged shot

[slow spade]

As its a 1 hit kill charged

[winter dock]

muties autodie to charge shot too if u headshot

there's also that new blessing

that gives +25% crit on full charge

[flat pebble]

but that means you don’t get to see them go whoa when u headshot them

[tall torrent]

Main ones are:
dmg 78% or higher
Stopping power 77% or higher
Thermal resist 69% or higher
Ammo as high as u can get
Then charge rate is lowest priority but it does change how the gun feels so I wouldn’t rly dump there

[winter dock]

so that's a pretty decent reason

[rapid hedge]

WHICH ONE BOIS

[tall torrent]

Uncharged & charged shots have the same cleave

[flat pebble]

iirc uncharged shots have like, 20 cleave

[winter dock]

Last time I tested that it was very distinctly different

[tall torrent]

No, 100

[flat pebble]

someone tested it last time I was in here

[slow spade]

Easily the right one

[flat pebble]

you should test it

[winter dock]

but the game does change frequently so

[slow spade]

You don't want to dump thermal resist that much

Its ok to be a bit low but not 60% 😔

[rapid hedge]

u get more shots off i guess with higher thermal resist o_0

[tall torrent]

Roll a 3rd see if u can get lower thermal but higher charge rate

69% to 80% thermal makes no practical difference

69% thermal allows u to shoot at 95% heat

[slow spade]

Iirc 80% is 18% heat per shot

[tall torrent]

For the 8th consecutive shot from no heat

[slow spade]

So you got some wiggle room

[tall torrent]

That’s all there is

[rapid hedge]

is this better lol

[torn gorge]

[slow spade]

Though idk how accurate the inspect screen numbers are

[tall torrent]

In active combat you don’t get much of a difference because being able to shoot at 95% heat means u can have it idle cool for 3s and still shoot, 80% thermal doesn’t make that magically better

[rapid hedge]

xD

[slow spade]

Indeed

Such is life

[bold ibex]

So are either the heavy blade or dueling sword worth using?

[slow spade]

If this was yesterday, there would be a gunshot in the mourningstar

[flat pebble]

hsword and dueling sword are both good yeah

[bold ibex]

What makes the hsword good? I took it into a mission and seemed to do no damage but I'm assuming I'm missing something big

[slow spade]

I think heavy sword would be pretty good with some damage stacking

[austere mica]

You have Deathblow or not

The lights are just fine

[slow spade]

Heavy sword is Power sword mk3 but with better mobility

[austere mica]

good for lazy poxwalker mulching

[torn moat]

Looking for a solid IAG build. It's been like 6 months since I played. Anyone have a recommendation?

[fallen plinth]

damn t4 manstopper is insane

[austere mica]

its just as strong as t1 besides the stagger

[slow spade]

Something like this

[austere mica]

Unless they changed it

[torn gorge]

hs6 let you embrace the way of the blade

[slow spade]

I don't have a computer for a full build though

[torn moat]

I meant Talent tree. Not weapon.

[slow spade]

Too tired

[slow spade]

Oh then rip, am sleepy

[torn moat]

It's all good. I appreciate the attempt

[slow spade]

The funny thing I'm certain there's probably like 30 builds floating around

But Discord search bar is a bit "unreliable"

[void gyro]

duelling sword + bolt pistol WS is so insanely fun

[fading yarrow]

Aww man I had plans to grind Halo Infinite but I'm so hyped to play more Darktide again

[fading yarrow]

Drop the build habibi

[flat pebble]

(not called the columnus anymore for whatever reason)(info for the person you were responding to)

[slow spade]

Yeah its Vraks or something now

[flat pebble]

there remains a columnus iag but it is not this columnus iag

god the new names are weird

Yeahs it’s vraks

[fading yarrow]

Yeah it's called the Vraks Mk V

[slow spade]

Definitely not going to be natural for a while

[torn moat]

Yeah. Just looking for a general build since they messed around with the talent tree a lil these past few months.

[slow spade]

I already had to stop myself from saying "Helbore mk3"

[hollow turtle]

By the Emperor. I've been in game for almost an hour now and have so much masteries stuff I need to go through to make my loadouts up to date again.

[fading yarrow]

🙏

[hollow turtle]

Surgical or Armourbane for helbore?

[fading yarrow]

Surgical imo

[slow spade]

Helbore has good armor pen

And crits give armor pen anyways

[torn moat]

Always Surgical. Don't need to worry about armor if you can crit and hit heads

[slow spade]

So Surgical should be best

[fading yarrow]

Oh I forgot to ask
Have any new achievements been added or just Penances?

[hollow turtle]

What were the go to blessings for chainsword?

[slow spade]

So far only saw the new armory penanaces

[hollow turtle]

Just penances afaik

[flat pebble]

I do rampage wrath

in armored hordes you won’t be able to hit and proc rampage or savage sweep with the chsword’s base cleave so wrath allows you to get there

[winter dock]

OH SO BOLT PISTOL GETS ACTUAL AOE BUT BOLTGUN DOESN'T I SEE

[crystal bloom]

did the names of the infantry autoguns change?

[winter dock]

Yes, names of ALOT of guns actually

columnus ceased to exist

as did kantrael

for shotguns anyways

[void gyro]

it's good at covering the duelling swords semi-weakness of crowds too

[crystal bloom]

the blue infantry Auto gun is no long named Columnus but I hope it's still the same gun. the brown one is called Columnus now

idk why they changed the names, it's just confusing.

[flat pebble]

what was the columnus IAG is now the vraks

and I believe the graia is now the columnus

[fading yarrow]

There's a Columnus VIII

[bronze trout]

Man first time doing the new mission

Thats quite different

[elder fiber]

I'm so glad fatshark took infinite dodges away from certain weapons ages ago just so they could put in an infinite dodge blessing

[radiant chasm]

tbf, as a blessing there is actual dps cost

10% weakspot damage is not a lot

[elder fiber]

I'm not arguing its bis I'm saying it's funny that they brought this back

[radiant chasm]

especially when the pools include uncanny, precog, thrust or headtake, bm, decimator

i find it funny to

if the game state was different

it would be great

[hollow turtle]

Preferential blessings on the recon?

[radiant chasm]

but dueling sword and taxes have great dodges with great count anyways

[slow spade]

Psykers don't deserve good things but the Omnissiah does

[elder fiber]

"psykers don't deserve good things" after this patch? I'm reporting you to the inquisition

[radiant chasm]

so just, don't press dodge for half a second and they regen all at once

if it was like, dodges normal regen one at a time or regen'd slower and other blessings weren't massive dps boosts, i'd say it would be OP

[slow spade]

Brb sending more gunners at psykers

[flat pebble]

alright but if it had thunder strike? then the dueling sword would be actually good

remember to like and subscribe and ring that bell for notifications on my build tips videos

[atomic zephyr]

is there any reason to take an hsword over a dclaw?

[flat pebble]

funny maniac damage and also far superior cheap horde clear

deathblow is brutal momentum, which means as a melee weapon with access to it instantly has s tier horde clear

i will say for poxwalkers and groaners dclaws have nasty horde clear

once armor get into the mix tho it’s meh. gotta switch to heavies and hit them one at a time

[fallen plinth]

dbl barrel and dueling sword is peak gaming

[flat pebble]

oh i mean comparing it to the hsword is just not even a contest in that regard for sure

[tame lodge]

Bring it on

[flat pebble]

9

[atomic zephyr]

after playing nothing but rolling steel all day and ending with hab dreyko, i can say that the new mission is a nice change of pace but i definitely prefer the classic layout

[bronze trout]

Yeah I feel like thats going to be the general opinion

[thick rose]

kinda feels like there is no room to be tactical, its just a pure zerg rush

[torn moat]

What is the reason to use the Bolt Pistol over the Revolver?

[flat pebble]

it’s fun

[torn moat]

Slower fire rate though

And that massive recoil

[flat pebble]

you should be pacing your shots as per surgical anyway

[abstract flare]

The sound

[torn moat]

Just kinda feels like a slower firing revolver. Faster reload, slower fire rate.

[abstract flare]

Stimmy's

[flat pebble]

puncture is also nice

[atomic zephyr]

i feel like its way forgiving if yu dont hit the head

[torn moat]

I have shredder grenades for bleed. Don't need puncture.

[atomic zephyr]

i preferred old bolt pistol over revolver but now its definite

[thick rose]

so... am I still spamming brunts armory to get a new weapon type?

[flat pebble]

can always make things more bleedier

[atomic zephyr]

no

well, kinda? you can see what stats you'll get when you upgrade it

[thick rose]

so like dueling and heavy that I have mastered from other class. how do I seek to get good stat ones to upgrade for vet?

[flat pebble]

also puncture can secure some OHKs and THKs

[atomic zephyr]

you do roll but iirc melk has fully upgraded weapons

and you can see what theyll upgrade to

[torn moat]

But would I give up puncture in place of other blessings?

[flat pebble]

you go to brunts if you want to spam them

[flat pebble]

i use surgical puncture and it works very well so

[atomic zephyr]

i use surgical DA

both are good options

[torn moat]

Surgical is a must have. But I don't know about puncture. DA or maybe Execution

[rigid pilot]

What does DA give

[flat pebble]

critical weakspot damage?

[atomic zephyr]

big weakspot damage bonus

yes

[rigid pilot]

Like any specific bps

[torn moat]

Yeah. Crit weakspot. And surgical almost garuntees the crit.

[atomic zephyr]

uhhhh i dunno it kills things

[rigid pilot]

Nice

[flat pebble]

for the most part crits are already OHKing the things you expect to OHK

idk maybe it helps with dreg ragers or something

i just one head one body them and then the 8 bleed stacks kill them

[torn moat]

Lethal Prox looks fun on Bolt pistol. Exploding shots sound fun.

[flat pebble]

conceptually it sounds good but it’s not really adding a whole lot

[atomic zephyr]

they already explode

[flat pebble]

also your shots already explode, lethal proximity just removed the minimum travel distance needed to arm the explosion

[atomic zephyr]

Not worth the slot

[torn moat]

Oh? I thouhgt they fired through multple targets.

[flat pebble]

that’s my take as well, there’s more competitive blessings

[torn moat]

Sort of like plasma but not as far.

[flat pebble]

they just added cleave to the bolt pistol but not a particularly significant amount

and they still explode once they hit their last target

[atomic zephyr]

it’s so a random poxxer can’t do a secret service

I am very very happy with the aim assist boost though

feels like I can snap aim the thing if i have to now

[flat pebble]

yeah the hitscan buff is nice. I also really really appreciate the sway reduction

[bronze trout]

I like that the new system is encouraging me to try new weapons and not force me to but man using the shredder pistol for the first time in a long while makes me sad, its not what it used to be.

[atomic zephyr]

ya it got taken out back and shot

i got power cycler 4 on my psword and honestly

feeling very whelmed

[flat pebble]

it’s funny I haven’t seen one in months but I saw one the other day used by a psyker in a monstrosity maelstrom and using it he got an absurd amount of boss damage

[atomic zephyr]

I think I prefer my chainsword to power sword

[flat pebble]

apparently a pinning fire cavalcade autopistol on a gunker goes brrrr

[flat pebble]

what’s the full roll?

[atomic zephyr]

PC4 brumoment

maniac carapace I think

[flat pebble]

mk6?

[thick rose]

which shock maul?

[flat pebble]

indi

[daring peak]

any bolter builds/tips?

[abstract flare]

I really like the power sword

[atomic zephyr]

yes

[atomic zephyr]

having to reactivate it breaks my flow

[abstract flare]

That's fair

[atomic zephyr]

I used to like it a lot (literally never came off) but somethings changed now

[torpid pier]

wait they changed vrak 7 to graia v7 ?

that is strange

[abstract flare]

I've started using the chainsaw and I always deactivate the rev because I'm use to using the power sword

[atomic zephyr]

yeah there’s a lot of renames

[torpid pier]

ah

i was scared for a second that i lost my baby the Vrak 7

glad it was just renamed

[atomic zephyr]

lol real

[abstract flare]

I wanna try using the combat knife next

[atomic zephyr]

the heavy swords and dueling swords seem really good for vet too

[abstract flare]

I haven't used either of them so they're both mastery 0 for me

[atomic zephyr]

yeah I’m working my way up with em

[abstract flare]

Yeah I might start with the dueling sword

[hollow turtle]

Lol. I hate how I buy a chainsword and consecrate it for sacrificing purposes to Hadron and it just turns out to be a Quad 80 chainsword but w/ shitty penetration.

Lol... Still have those "So close to greatness" moments.

[grand perch]

before the patch i had that annoying "new penance unlocked" light on even though i had all completed. couldnt even remove it with the "nothing new" mod. post patch that light is gone, but i get a "new mastery unlocked" light instead even though theres nothing new there.
fatshark giveth, and fatshark taketh away

[sharp epoch]

dueling sword is bad

[atomic zephyr]

what

[sharp epoch]

on vet

[atomic zephyr]

really?

that wasn’t the impression I was getting

[sharp epoch]

the only reason it works on psyker is cause they have unlimited ammo via staves which also hordeclear

[smoky sparrow]

weird i thought dueling sword didnt use any ammo

[tame lodge]

Ugh

[trim steppe]

Man the sacrifice weapon mechanic makes mastery a cinch. I haven't even played a single match today lol

[tame lodge]

Bring shredder grenades

[sharp epoch]

dueling swords purpose isnt horde clear though?

[tame lodge]

Dueling swords are bad for hordes

So just bring shredder grenades

[atomic zephyr]

ten million shredder grenades of sergeant morrow

[smoky sparrow]

shouldnt it fuck hard with a, lets say, autogun?

[sharp epoch]

even autogun wont hordeclear well vet has no ranged hordeclear options

[tame lodge]

Not enough ammo for Hordes

[smoky sparrow]

or any weapon really if your team has hordeclear

[atomic zephyr]

I used dueling sword with columnus or whatever its new name is and it was great

[sterile garnet]

Lmao

[atomic zephyr]

it can clear enough to hold its own

[tall torrent]

DB shotgun

but yea it's a single target 1 trick

[smoky sparrow]

horde clear isnt the dueling swords strong suit but it worked fine on psyker even with the guns

[sharp epoch]

what difficulty?

[atomic zephyr]

auric hi intensity

[tame lodge]

So you either DB, Lawby, 7a, Agri brauto

Or light attack away

[atomic zephyr]

I don’t think it was gauntlet

[tall torrent]

it's just DB

[atomic zephyr]

it might’ve been

[tame lodge]

4.5 cleave plus some stagger on those lights

[sharp epoch]

if your team comp picks up the slack in horde clear yeah its doable, but you get isolated your dead pretty much if you get surrounded

[atomic zephyr]

shout and shredder my beloved

you right tho

im leaning towards heavy sword anyway

was bored of Rashad

[sharp epoch]

heavy swords fine for hordeclear its weakness is flak/carapace though, but vet has some ranged tools for that at least

[atomic zephyr]

flak/carapace is zzzz for vet

I mean flak you just shoot

carapace you shoot or krak

[sharp epoch]

youd have to run bolter/helbore/revolver/plasma prob

[atomic zephyr]

bolt pistol works great

makes up for hsword weakness well

[sharp epoch]

that would prob work, is it better than bolter?

[atomic zephyr]

it’s definitely faster

[trim steppe]

So uh, is the Vraks IAG the columnus in disguise?

[atomic zephyr]

they sorta make trade offs for each other

[atomic zephyr]

probably I don’t remember

[tame lodge]

Shit you could run Recon against carapace and get the Weapon Specialist keystone

[tall torrent]

it enables a build that's stronger than most/all boltgun builds so yes

[tall torrent]

yes, columnus mk5 renamed to vraks mk5

[sharp epoch]

I heard it was bad but they did give it a lot of buffs this patch

[atomic zephyr]

I just like it because it doesn’t have the individual round loading of the zarona while keeping great single shot performance

[atomic zephyr]

hard as hell to actually hit stuff with but they gave it a fat bandaid patch

[tall torrent]

nah, pre-patch boltpistol grenadier build was still better than most boltgun builds

now that u can actually craft a proper boltpistol for that build it's just made simpler

[atomic zephyr]

bolt pistol damage was never changed yeah

[open cosmos]

The accuracy on it is way better now so headshots are way more reliable

[atomic zephyr]

it got a little cleave, better aim assist and better stability

[sharp epoch]

imma try it im kinda bored of plasma

[open cosmos]

I just did a run with run and gun for the extra 30% spread reduction and I was hipfiring people in the face like it was a revolver

[tall torrent]

most builds (not limited to veteran) can't compete with grenadier in total dmg

[atomic zephyr]

what’s this build?

shout and grenade perks?

[tall torrent]

Power sword + Boltpistol
Boltpistol is elite + maniac, Run&gun + lethal prox

Power sword 6, elite + maniac, PC + BM

[atomic zephyr]

oh huh, I’ve been running something similar already

time to do some tuning

[tall torrent]

Run&gun + lethal prox is pretty much the best way to run it on veteran

[atomic zephyr]

…lethal prox?

[tall torrent]

Buff explosive radius by 25%

Applies to frag grenades

[tame lodge]

Hmm figured you'd have field improv
Oh well

[atomic zephyr]

I’ve been running it with surg + DA

[tall torrent]

Teammates won’t need grenades if u can drop ogryn nukes every minute

[atomic zephyr]

Oh wait shit I made that build for a meme months ago with agri brauto

my thought process was “wouldn’t it be funny if I put every grenade related talent into one build”

it is funny

[tall torrent]

Boltpistol just makes this better

[atomic zephyr]

why run and gun? or is that just preference

[tall torrent]

-30% Hipfire spread
Remove sprint to fire delay

+15% C.damage when sprinting (hits breakpoints)

[atomic zephyr]

i see

[tall torrent]

It’s QoL

[atomic zephyr]

that’s really antithetical compared to how I’ve been running it but I’ll give it a try anyway

[tall torrent]

Surgical + DA for Boltpistol is basically Zarona lite

But this grenadier build is like

[smoky sparrow]

do headshots actually work now on the boltpistol?

[atomic zephyr]

exactly, I don’t like zarona so I use bolt pistol

[atomic zephyr]

ya

[tall torrent]

Yea

[smoky sparrow]

gotta try that surgical + DA again too then

[atomic zephyr]

do recommend

[smoky sparrow]

but first im going to make the most disgusting trauma staff imaginable

[wise wren]

Hey whats the recommended setup for the double barrel and is it any good?

[smoky sparrow]

i had a 380 base with shitty rolls

[hollow turtle]

Lol, when I first got this gun, it was an ammo dump stat gun sitting at 21%. Now that I've held it this long, it's perfect.

[tall torrent]

Manstopper + scattershot, pair with weapon specialist + always prepared and play a melee build

[wise wren]

understandable

[hollow turtle]

Wait. Vets can have duelling sword now?

[idle carbon]

ya

also heavy swords

[hollow turtle]

Was so confused by that. Sick

[idle carbon]

heavy sword on commando vet is... interesting lol

unless you make really, really heavy use of parry, it feels like a straight upgrade to the catachan swords

[flat crypt]

Took a duelling sword for a spin and oh boy it feels good

gotta try the heavies next

[daring peak]

this looks cool af but also wtf

hard mode

[tame lodge]

Bro got that Superhot map

https://tenor.com/view/superhot-punch-strongest-superhot-player-gif-25165321

https://tenor.com/view/superhot-superhot-superhot-epik-epik-superhot-super-hot-gif-14256613095172224108

The hell happened
My discord crashed lol

[hollow turtle]

I'm guessing party search doesn't work as intended yet.

[daring peak]

warp overdose

[regal belfry]

atleast no hardcore lsd bubble

[daring peak]

HELP

[daring peak]

had that earlier

[regal belfry]

welcome to the void

[daring peak]

literally just running off emp's guidance

[woeful junco]

how are the veterans liking the new patch?

[daring peak]

this must be what daredevil feels like

also damn catachan sword + revolver with the left keystone is fun af

[tall torrent]

Having half our weapons’ names changed sure is fun

[last parcel]

but other than that BLOOOOOOOOOOD

[tall torrent]

Played 5 hours of DT today
Spent 4 of those 5 hours sorting inventory

[idle pecan]

Update tomorrow

Or rather later today

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[idle pecan]

Can't wait

[last parcel]

well you won't have to because it's already out

[idle pecan]

Oh fuck.

[woeful junco]

update released yesterday

[idle pecan]

Ferb I know what I'm gonna do today

[oblique totem]

I went into a mission with the new weapons. It was nice

[somber axle]

The terror of getting onto Darktide for the first time since the update drop and needing to sort my 16 Recon Mk VIds that are no longer even holding that name because they were all renamed to Recon Mk XII

[woeful junco]

then they spent most of the afternoon doing maintenance on the new crafting features because, inevitably, shit broke

so you didnt miss much

but it works now!

just in time for the actual release

[last parcel]

just as planned

[tall torrent]

They broke FSR3

For some reason FSR3’s frame gen is able to ignore Nvidia control panel’s frame cap

[regal belfry]

parry those ragers

[tall torrent]

Never seen that

[idle pecan]

I'm going to respectively shove my new firearms up the beast of nergle's (does it even have one?) ass

[oblique totem]

I like that all the marks are now interchangable.

[woeful junco]

yeah it is very nice. I still have individual specimens of each mark for convenience but I was able to take a godroll krourk stubber and make it an achlys

[regal belfry]

you can swap marks on the weapon menu in the inventory

[idle pecan]

I'm a big fan now that anyone can have any build

And it's not limited to who does the most gambling

Weapon locks are gone right

[high viper]

yup

[flat crypt]

yup

😄

[idle pecan]

Never should of been added imo

Rare fat shark W

[still plover]

Might actually miss the old crafting system, going from zero dueling swords and no mastery to that in 20 minutes just doesn't feel right.

[idle pecan]

[somber axle]

I had 6-7 more Recons spread between the Recon Mk II and Recon Mk VIIa before the update and I only remember the Recon Mk II being turned into the Recon Mk VIc because I still laugh about it being the Recon Mk Sexy

[idle pecan]

Are the dueling swords goated on veteran?

[somber axle]

I have no idea what I am going to do with this many Recons