veteran-class

[flat pebble]

it’s nice

you can also do a light to skip past h1

[bright charm]

yeah this feel so good to use. about the same with rashad no?

[junior needle]

I just tried the 9 and its 1x diag and 1x horizontal loop

[mental parcel]

I auto crash whenever i press E too access hadron, I have also disabled every mod I got running anyone know what i could do or wait for them too fix it which will likely never happened knowing fatshark ability to fix bugs and add 2 more too the table

[junior needle]

Disable mods entirely with the bat file and see if it still happens

Unless that's what you meant you did, instead of disabling all individually but keeping the other part active

Are any of the dueling swords good for light spam?

[frank ether]

heavy sword vet is everything I could ask for

I tried headtaker+deathblow combo but I'm curious if there are any other funny possible combinations

[flat pebble]

az does rampage help in any significant way with the mk4 DS

[balmy flume]

I think the only way to do it is to have the node active, and just play blindly…the way it works, it is very hard to deliberately keep track of.

[frank ether]

I'm tempted to try but it would mean dropping headtaker

could I still reach rager bp with executioner I wonder

I want to go all aggro

[flat pebble]

yeah i was about to ask what you’re losing if you dump headtaker

[frank ether]

oh right, I forgot exe is ranged only

no matter

better question is does the rending make any difference versus other armor types

[flat pebble]

does it significantly raise mixed horde clear enough to be worth making it worse against elites and specialists

[frank ether]

like surely it won't give me acceptable carapace

[bright charm]

@formal lake whats ur go to heavy sword blessings?

[faint beacon]

rending strikes

[bright charm]

maybe the rending one gives its better horde clear?

[faint beacon]

do they actually massively help

Also new rending one is Bladed Momentum

FR

Look im loving it man

Update day make me happy

[hollow turtle]

how's the update fellas?

[faint beacon]

I've yet to play the train mission

I literally just got home from work

Im going to make a few of my weapons perfect

[last parcel]

there are missions? i thought we were just supposed to sit in the inventory

[fallen burrow]

anyone know how effective the Longshot talent* is at short and mid ranges?

[real iron]

what is

[faint beacon]

Unique Game Over?

[real iron]

the mark stuff

[bronze badger]

hey guys, whats the dump stat for the plasma gun?

[faint beacon]

I heard that was a thing

[hollow turtle]

I'm assuming all my mods are now busted.

[faint beacon]

Ramps up beyond 12ms

Wait when

Oh

[fallen burrow]

thank you

[last parcel]

most people are having issues with these but a few of them just got updates

[faint beacon]

Also I assume mods are naturally going apeshit

[abstract flare]

Yo a level 1 bot!

[mental parcel]

yeah some of them are causing a great amount of broken mod spam

[mental parcel]

probably will hard carry you

[abstract flare]

Damn right it will

I have high hopes it will

[hollow turtle]

The fact you're shoulder height to the bot is hilarious

[mental parcel]

i remember last year a bot managed to solo clutch my entire team from dying in damnation

[woven coyote]

lvl 1 bot vs lvl 30 vet, sounds like a start to a mobile game ad

[thin kernel]

Is anyone else getting hard crashes?

[fallen burrow]

sorry for asking lots of questions, just doing a hard analysis of my build

how do we feel on the survivalist talent/aura?

[mental parcel]

i disaled all my mods and now my game keeps crashing

guess i will re add the mods

[fallen burrow]

i think its helpful but just am not sure if it measures up to other possibilities

[trim steppe]

I have a powersword with 60 in mobility and another with 60 in cleave targets. What says the collective?

[full nacelle]

what's the dump stat on the double-barrel shotgun? mobility/range?

[trim steppe]

mobility

[full nacelle]

gotcha

[abstract flare]

I'm shoulder height to everyone

[neon imp]

Of the three in of themselves, it's more useful. 5% more damage or movement speed both help a little bit either way, but give little impact like Survivalist does

[somber axle]

It's ok but not the only choice that matters anymore after the nerf. It's mostly just for more efficient pathing if you're going down left tree or an ok option for no ammo maelstroms. For standard maps there's almost always more than enough ammo to go around except for the most ammo thirsty weapons/squads

[scenic ivy]

short kings have smaller hitboxes

[woven coyote]

uhhh, is power sword mastery borked?

[somber axle]

If you're going down toward VoC it's more efficient to path through Fire Team to save the talent points for elsewhere

[flat pebble]

read as: so many fucking squads

[fallen burrow]

thank you so much ❤️

[somber axle]

deviating left or right a bunch worms up your tree and makes you starved for points when you get to the bottom

[fallen burrow]

thank youuuuu

[flat pebble]

the amount of teams i have played with that are using their guns like they hold unused ammunition is contempt is crazy

[mental parcel]

i now got rid of my mods and the game is back too auto crashing

[somber axle]

I love all the lasguns not just for how they're one of THE iconic 40k weapons but also because with Shock Trooper every lasgun becomes incredibly ammo efficient, even Recons!

Then you don't really need to care about ammo goblins LOL

[unique orchid]

ive been using the dueling sword and the mark 10 hlistol

[flat pebble]

yeah i just wish we had a lasgun that by itself could handle carapace (that isn’t the heavy helbore with the fucked up special attack)

[woven coyote]

in vanilla i keep getting e3e1e6cb-dcbf-451c-8a32-c913a408c646 crash

[unique orchid]

commissar drip goes crazy when you dont really need ammo

[fading yarrow]

Isn't there an option to hide Favorites while in the Sacrifice menu?

[unique orchid]

surv helps your team :)

[flat pebble]

fuck those guys

[unique orchid]

:(

[mental parcel]

full squad of bolter vets lucky there's no team dmg or the entire team would be wiped before the first heretic gets too even see the squad

[neon imp]

I forgot about the cooldown they gave it

[flat pebble]

at a certain point i think most players will find by being responsible and looking in all the nooks and crannies they just will have a good amount of ammo the whole match

and as long as it’s distributed evenly there really shouldn’t be any problems

[somber axle]

I've been running my funny Krieg Helbore build lately and it holds up even in no ammo Maelstrom

[fervent quiver]

This rating system is... I have no idea

[glad kite]

what blessings on the bolt pistol?

[flat pebble]

i use surgical puncture

[somber axle]

Flashlight never runs out of battery beginning to end

[woven coyote]

it kinda skinks losing the hours of grind to get god rolls, but i get thats kinda a bad mechanic as is

[mental parcel]

wish it did

[somber axle]

The new Vet talent is going to make Helbore feel even better

[mental parcel]

I need more jumpscares in the game

[flat pebble]

boo this man

[bright charm]

they should just give everyone 10 free points

[frank ether]

hmm, I'm not sure on the saber rending blessing

feels like a win more blessing

[mental parcel]

currently hounds when they sneak up on you is terrifying or a silent burster

[frank ether]

the numbers on it are good but its really short duration so unless you're carving hordes you won't like, have it carry over to hit a crusher or boss or anything of that sort

[somber axle]

The biggest jumpscare is always two trappers who stagger their shots perfectly so the second trapper catches you at the end of your dodge LOL

I haven't played since the update dropped but I can't wait to see the silliness of Flamer tanks exploding like fire barrels

[mental parcel]

i love that but i wish it didnt act like another bomber

[unique orchid]

the flamers blowing up is incredibly fun

[mental parcel]

if it was like the explosive barrels but catching heretics that are close by on fire would be better imo

[flat pebble]

I’m ok with flamers exploding just on the merit that it’s cool and the animation is well done

those dudes freak out briefly and it makes me lol

[somber axle]

I must see

[signal berry]

this move has me traumatised

[somber axle]

Not today probably but maybe tomorrow

[mellow dome]

Did a critical hit veteran build with Reciprocity and Deadshot, as well as chaining with melee to get critical hits as well. Is it excessive to have the Scattershot blessing and the crit perks as well? Would it be better to diversify shit basically

[flat pebble]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1fp1kgb/the_tanks_on_the_backs_of_scab_flamers_now_explode/

[somber axle]

Thanks!

[mental parcel]

has it always been 1.5k on braced

[flat pebble]

If you’re doing a weapspec build crit is largely redundant

[signal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-thats-what-im-talking-about-kevin-malone-the-office-gif-17805914

[flat pebble]

(For the double barrel)

[mellow dome]

are armour types better to have on the gun then

[flat pebble]

yeah, infested and flak I wanna say

az had a rec on reddit about it I can’t specifically recall

[mellow dome]

infested?

[candid agate]

is it bomber fire or barrel fire?

[mellow dome]

aren't only pox walkers infested

[flat pebble]

infested apparently pushes out the range on horde clear with man stopper by a ton

[umbral scaffold]

So i havent tried the update yet but anything new appart from the map and the rework ?

[flat pebble]

yeah them and hounds and bursters

[fallen burrow]

how much do we like rending?

[mental parcel]

I kinda want an experimental maelstrom that ONLY spawns specials the entire time, I will hate it and everyone else too but I want to see what kind of nightmarish situation it will bring too the table

[civic knot]

does uncanny strike make bleed stacks do more dmg?

[flint ibex]

I would like to know this question too! What is rending, how good is it? Is it worth investing into?

Will give one single kiss for the answer to this question

[mental parcel]

so much i still dont know what it does even after watching multiple vidoes and my friends explaining it too me

[flint ibex]

What does it do

[mental parcel]

weakens armour i think or deals dmg and ignores armour

and brittleness gives dmg boost too team mates

[flint ibex]

I think

[candid agate]

knife does well with it right?

[mental parcel]

i dont invest in things that i dont understand

but brittleness is probably the best, since it gives a bit of dmg too the entire team

[flint ibex]

Is Bring it Down worth it?

[bright charm]

how to u change the weapon marks?

[mental parcel]

buy a different mark of that weapon

[flint ibex]

Bring it Down / Rending Strikes / Competitive Urge

idk which one to pick 😭

[flat pebble]

go to inventory and select the weapon, at the top right it should say something like change mark

[mental parcel]

would need too know the stats

[bright charm]

this normal?

[mental parcel]

the only blessings I know off by heart is surgical

[flint ibex]

20%+ damage bonus against Orgyn/Monstrosities for Bring it Down

It seems mid to me

[mental parcel]

that is a god weapon you have unlocked

[flat pebble]

it appears you need to level your mastery more

[mental parcel]

blessed by the emperor himself

[mental parcel]

very useful in auric damation

the amount of ogryns that will appear can be nuts

nowadays you can get crusher patrols or bulwark patrols and uncommon for me atleast reaper patrols

[distant phoenix]

What is this feeling... fulfillment??

😩

[flat pebble]

I don’t recognize that word

[mental parcel]

pretty good imo

although power sword charged already got very high cleave

[distant phoenix]

MOAR CLEAVE FOAR DA CHOPPA

[hallow drift]

Is the Cadia Stands armor real and has it been in the shop recently or will it maybe be back soon? Asking for a timid templar

[lucid hinge]

the swag has been acquired

[frail skiff]

I've been gone for about 6 months. Can someone explain to me what they did to the lasgun marks? Cause my memory is fuzzy, I don't remember the MK IV Hellbore

[distant phoenix]

It's been in the shop twice now. Recently like a month and a half ago

[flat pebble]

they renamed many weapons

check patch note 1 for the full list of name changes

[frail skiff]

Ah

[torn gorge]

all these renames for the weapons

[distant phoenix]

WHA

[torn gorge]

its confusing

[distant phoenix]

Mod??

[lucid hinge]

for the drip + for the drip extra

[frail skiff]

Also... in brunts armory, is it me or is my selection... less?

[distant phoenix]

Bc that shit is swagged out on big E

[mental parcel]

no probably mons used

[distant phoenix]

MkIV helbore new weapon

[candid agate]

he got a good deal with hallowete

[distant phoenix]

Oneshots crushers

[frail skiff]

Patch notes says it's a renamed MKIII

[mental parcel]

seems a bit overkill

[distant phoenix]

That rogue trader scallywag! I gotta get me mitts on me own plunder

[mental parcel]

watch it be nerfed

[frail skiff]

Cause the MKIII I was using turned into the MKIV

[distant phoenix]

Well it technically CAN oneshot crushers with the right build

I used to have

[frail skiff]

I know, I used to use it

[distant phoenix]

But with this new update I bet it's even easier now

Thank the Emperor

[frail skiff]

It just feels like the renaming was unnecessary

Cause I am so damn confused sorting through my inventory

[distant phoenix]

Immersion

Just gotta relearn your stuff

[somber axle]

My fav name change was the Recon Mk II to the Recon Mk VIc

Recon Mk Sexy LMFAO

[frail skiff]

Yeah, I have the patch notes pulled up

[distant phoenix]

Now for general power being strength... eh

I guess it reduces confusion

[flat pebble]

now u have them double pulled

[distant phoenix]

Bc of the new power system

[frail skiff]

I can momorize it twice as fast now

[distant phoenix]

[mental parcel]

i refuse too call them by the new name

[distant phoenix]

Careful now, that level of thinking might get you accused of chaos witchcraft

[flat pebble]

I’d love to know the reason they were all changed like that

someone was speculating GW got involved

[frail skiff]

So back to my other thing

[distant phoenix]

Ah yes I'll have one columnus mkV
"Didn't you mean the Vraks-"
No! COLUMNUS!

[frail skiff]

Is it me or is the selection in Brunt's Armoury less

[distant phoenix]

It's organized

It's about the same

Just split in a more readable way

[frail skiff]

Well I can't choose a different Helbore mk

[distant phoenix]

Go your inventory and highlight the weapon

There should be a marks tab in the top right when you click on it

[frail skiff]

Wait, I can choose between MK on the fly?

[distant phoenix]

Right above cosmetics amd inspect

[distant phoenix]

Yup!

FOR FREEEEEE

[frail skiff]

[distant phoenix]

I was so stoked to hear that too

https://tenor.com/view/smeagol-sméagol-the-lord-of-the-rings-smeagol-dancing-dancing-gif-1434468925022359762

[frail skiff]

Now that is the best thing I've heard today

The only way it could get better is if I had a hotshot volley gun

[candid agate]

FATSHARK, GIVE ME A HOTSHOT LAS GUN, AND MY LIFE, IS YOUR

[abstract flare]

She's back!!

The love of my life!!

[scenic ivy]

I want a hotshot that feels like a hotshot though

idk if can balance

[frail skiff]

Careful, she will turn into an Ogryn at a moments notice

I'll take a longlas please

[mental parcel]

a perfect match

[fading yarrow]

21% is the max for health curios and 17% is the max for toughness, right?

[frail skiff]

I thought it was 16% for toughness

[flat pebble]

nah it’s 17

[jaunty sphinx]

17% relics arent real and they can hurt me

[distant phoenix]

Yes

[lucid radish]

The commissar makes me feel things

[distant phoenix]

HEHEHE

JUst wait

[jaunty sphinx]

same

[distant phoenix]

Fucking loading screens

[rose gale]

having a hard time decing what to use my extra talent points on

[jaunty sphinx]

only use enough to unlock the next tier

[frail skiff]

It will hurt you

[jaunty sphinx]

focus what you want

[jaunty sphinx]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/e8df7baeba7e1f2774a848542bfd2607/213e6edaa7175d85-21/s500x750/8c21fb6f7870cafcc437958abeef2c6b0b5ef9ea.gif

[rose gale]

are any of the weapon specialist modifiers any good ?

[jaunty sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/foot-dive-doctor-doom-mvc-mvc3-dr-doom-gif-25817873

[jaunty sphinx]

not particularly, at least when it comes to point economy

[stable socket]

the "reload X% of your weapon per stack" is useful on some weapons because it always rounds up to 1

which means on a single melee kill you're guaranteed to get 1 revolver/shotgun shell in the chamber

[jaunty sphinx]

true!

[rose gale]

ah, i mostly use lasguns and autoguns

[jaunty sphinx]

I run it on my revolver build but I usually run autogun

[candid agate]

based guardsman loadout

[thick needle]

So uh
How does Rating work now

[stable socket]

weapon spec revolver is super fun if you like a fast-paced "beat up a bunch of guys, quickswap to revolver to snipe a special, swap back to melee" playstyle

[atomic zephyr]

is anyoen having issues with mastery menus resetting?

[frozen meadow]

What is the best recon lasgun mark to try to apply burn stacks to big targets?

[thick needle]

So the rating is just a measure of how high the weapon mastery is?

[rose gale]

i guess ill use 2 to get bring it down, and then maybe born leader

[atomic zephyr]

ive had to redo my combat axe twice now

[rose gale]

or perhaps just crit chance

[atomic zephyr]

it also leaves the weapons with an "unread" mark or whatever it is
worked fine for infantry lasgun, just not the melee weapons

[thick needle]

Axes aren't even my highest mastery
What is Rating even measuring

[abstract flare]

What blessings would you guys recommend for the recon lasgun?

[atomic zephyr]

update: it seems to just be a visual bug, the blessings stay unlocked

[thick needle]

Oh so it's still just trying to measure the total point value of all the current stats, perks, etc

[glad kite]

well shit i cant 1 shot dreg shotgunners with my bolt pistol

[thick needle]

Wait does this mean we have to manually add all the stats to see if a weapon is a 380 now

So same as the old system basically
Hunt for 80s in all the good stats and try not to get sub 40 in any other

[torn gorge]

but you just need 1 mk of that weapon class

[atomic zephyr]

this update is pretty neat actually

[thick needle]

Can perks and blessings be swapped out freely now

[oblique horizon]

Melk seems to be selling really good stuff now too
My friend started playing a week ago and today he logged in on his veteran and melk had a karking powersword with PC4 which I coulsnt get for 40 hours on release

[rose gale]

are vigilant autoguns just headhunter ones renamed ?

[flat pebble]

yes

check patch note 1 for full list of renamed weapons

[thick needle]

Oh I get it now
Neat

Thanks for the explanation

[oblique horizon]

What are the thoughts on new plasmagun blessings? Some of them look disgusting

[nova dirge]

Hey guys could someone give me build advice for my veteran. Currently i'm running a Plasma Gun and Power sword, but I dont know what blessing and perks are good and am a bit overwhelmed with everything

[crystal bloom]

I have to give up Rampage or Supercharge on my powersword to fit powercycler but I don't know which is better.

[flat pebble]

which psword

[nova dirge]

Mk 3

[atomic zephyr]

finally.

[nova dirge]

Just had it drop for me

[flat pebble]

psword rolls should either be sunder+powercycler for the mk3 or bm+powercycler for the mk6

[rose gale]

what type of autogun ? i use dumdum and deathspitter for infantry ones

[nova dirge]

Im using the plasma gun

[flat pebble]

62% finesse, pain

[atomic zephyr]

shrug

[rose gale]

i swear i read autogun

[atomic zephyr]

i can just get anothe rone

[rose gale]

i think im supid

[flat pebble]

soupid

[crystal bloom]

Sunder over Slaughterer? either way I don't have the mastery for that yet so for not I need to replace rampage or supercharge

[flat pebble]

flak maniac blaze away gets hot is good for the plasma gun

[atomic zephyr]

is lethal proximity any good on bolt pistol?

i dont actually remember

[flat pebble]

perks change some breakpoints so it depends on how you use it

[vestal widget]

you want flak/elite for bps

[flat pebble]

trap blessing don’t use it

[atomic zephyr]

figured

[flat pebble]

I’m pretty sure maniac gets a lot of plasma gun rolls over the flamer OHK which is important

[atomic zephyr]

i already have a surg/DA bolt pistol

[untold mulch]

what does inspiring barrage does exactly? The tooltip in spanish is...not great

[flat pebble]

I haven’t tested in a while though

[vestal widget]

elite is for the unarmoured gunner 1s

[flat pebble]

Increasing amount of toughness regain as you hold the trigger

[atomic zephyr]

blasting = toughness i believe

[vestal widget]

and shotgunner body shots

i need maniac on one of my less well statted plasma guns for the flamer 1shs tho

[untold mulch]

Hmmm, is it good?

[flat pebble]

it’s fine, it’s kind of a crutch blessing but it’s not bad

[nova dirge]

I can't post photos for some reason, but right now my plasma gun has shattering impact and glory hunter

[vestal widget]

but on an ideal one you want flak/elite because you can hit flamer bps with other stuff (tag/mf/etc) and it can get you over scab rager 1s

[flat pebble]

it’s good on ogryn stubbers and the flamer

[untold mulch]

I was checking it on the Brauto

[vestal widget]

you want blaze away + one of the new blessings whose name i forget

[flat pebble]

you can hit the dreg gunner ohk bps doing the same thing

[somber axle]

Blessings depend on playstyle/talents!

If you like playing a very aggressive frontline style grab Reciprocity and use the dodges to stack crit through fights. Deathspitter and Dum Dum are good together if you can maintain stacks of Reciprocity through fights

If you dislike Reciprocity gameplay then you need Headhunter for sure to get solid crit chance. For second blessing Dum Dum is the best performer

If you like Deadshot juggling with Focus Target and Target Down you don't need Headhunter either and can go Dum Dum + Deathspitter

Most important part is getting solid crit chance from something for Shock Trooper

[flat pebble]

I haven’t tried it on a brauto yet but it’s probably fine

[vestal widget]

true, if it's a well statted one with a build tree meant for plasma the elite also gets you over the flak rager bp tho, which otherwise needs on-ability-use buffs to be up (iirc, i haven't played my plasma for months)

[untold mulch]

🫡 at least if its not great

Now is easy to change

Emperor blessings 🙏

[orchid hemlock]

Oh man, here we go again

[somber axle]

Infernus is a very fun pick for lighting things on fire and the DoT can kill fleeing trappers and hounds as they go around a corner beyond LoS but usually Dum Dum will outpace it on DPS/TTK on most targets at most ranges

[nova dirge]

What are good perks for mk3 power sword?

[flat pebble]

i like double damage blessings of deathspitter and fire frenzy on the brautos personally

[somber axle]

It's not bad, it's just not as good as other options

[orchid hemlock]

The "objective" answer on all lasguns is dumdum + deathspitter

[untold mulch]

apart from the fun factor, I only can maybe feel using Infernus in single shot weapons that are close to hitting a breakpoint

[somber axle]

And for very weak targets it will hardly do anything at all so it's mostly coming into play with tougher things like bosses, Bulwarks, Maulers, etc.

[atomic zephyr]

i wish Only In Death Does Duty End was good

[torn gorge]

why

[atomic zephyr]

shout revive

[untold mulch]

• damage for everyone

Honestly FS should have avoided giving straight up damage on blessings

[torn gorge]

you wanna rez people shouting?

[flat pebble]

i seem to remember people like infested and unarmored for hitting breakpoints on cheap hordes but it’s been some time. I recommend checking your breakpoints in the meat grinder

[frank ether]

I just pushed the boss off the train... o yep

[atomic zephyr]

but 50% cooldown increase is too much

[somber axle]

If you're min maxing damage for sure go Dum Dum and then decide second blessing based off of where your source of crit chance is coming from

[vestal widget]

testing bps in meatgrinder for your stats/talent setup is actually less painful now

previously you practically needed the loadout monitor mod-

[untold mulch]

My first run half the pub decided to stand in a way for half of them to be blasted away

[frank ether]

my second game ended that way, I killed the boss but timer ran out

[untold mulch]

brain empty, all forgot the pushback

[untold mulch]

I died because a Trapper decided to shoot me sideways

I sure love when that happens

[candid agate]

everyday i pray that min maxing becomes a forgotten concept in games

[flat pebble]

idk it gives some people like me something to do as a meta game

sometimes I just wanna fiddle in a hub world for a bit

[candid agate]

a way to ruin the fun lmao

[flat pebble]

says who?

[abstract moth]

So do the exp work the more you use the weapon or the exp from the mission?

[flat pebble]

oh hey lupus what’s up

[candid agate]

people who enjoy games for gameplay and not using calculators to get 4.389% more damage

[abstract moth]

Hey Tyler

[somber axle]

Gamers always chase optimal. Big number make gamer brain go brrrrr. I like setting things on fire sometimes though LOL

[flat pebble]

you don’t have to min max if you don’t want to lmao no one is forcing you to

[terse idol]

I mean

Okay I'm gonna hit back

Min maxing is fine, nobody is forcing you to, you're not like any better for not minmaxinf

[flat pebble]

show me on this doll where min maxing touched you

[somber axle]

Reciprocity is ideal but I have seen a few people who dislike playing around it so alternative builds for different playstyles works best

[terse idol]

Some weapons do genuinely perform better when you do min max them but like if you can play without it that's fine

[candid agate]

to be honest i shouldve said i hate min maxing in pvp games

in pve its fine

[terse idol]

Many times, especially for darktide 5% or 10% of damage can change how fast you kill enemies

[untold mulch]

I get somewhat minmaxing for semi auto weapons and such

because going from 2-3 hits to kill to 1-2 feels amazing

[terse idol]

I too

Hate min maxing in fps tbh

[untold mulch]

Oh in PVP it sucks so much

[terse idol]

Cause I hate that min maxed weapons in cod look

Literally unuseable

[candid agate]

seeing johnathan fergusson so sad killed me on the inside

[red robin]

uh

which recon las

[atomic zephyr]

minmaxxing in pvp makes sense

[terse idol]

Who's that?

[atomic zephyr]

i mean

[red robin]

has the best efficiency with crit chance?

[atomic zephyr]

hating it

[red robin]

headhunter and 5% crit

[atomic zephyr]

jonathan ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal arms museum

[sleek garden]

incredible

[abstract moth]

Did you figure out how the exp is earned in the new system? Does it count more from when you use the weapon or is just based on mission exp? Like space marine 2 for example

[frozen meadow]

is fire frenzy or deathspitter for mk 5 autogun with dumdum?

[sleek garden]

this mission is like 10 minutes and ive been disconnected twice

[terse idol]

Ooh yeah I remeber

[sleek garden]

why is it like this

[atomic zephyr]

i would use deathspitter personally

[candid agate]

hes a british museum manager of the national guns museum or something and he has a lot of videos reviewing guns in games and their quite entertaining, and in some of his cod ones he legit holds a garand saying what did they do to you

[untold mulch]

Basically a museum weapon expert that got some internet fame because he analyzes some franchise weapons for the IRL inspirations

He deserved better than the COD videos

[terse idol]

Yee i remeber em

I just wished whoever records the gameplay

Had a better representation sometimes

[untold mulch]

is obligatory that for those type of videos

[terse idol]

Cause I'm watching em make some questionable angless

[untold mulch]

the gameplay must be absolute ass

[terse idol]

[untold mulch]

is the law

[candid agate]

rule of the universe lmao

[terse idol]

Or god forbid just have him live, with someone to like do the video?

But he's probably really busy

[untold mulch]

I think there has been one or two videos with a live person alongside?

[untold mulch]

but yeah, looks kinda it

[terse idol]

Oh? Live as in like he's sitting there and watching them shoot?

in game

Why am I having such a hard time describing this stuff rn

[red robin]

yeah i was hearing recon las has like less crit chance on headhunter or 5% crit based off fire rate ticks

[wet elk]

lol doing the 5 ac without dying, 2 missions left, join a mission, everybody dead

[red robin]

idk tho

[wet elk]

lose achievement

okay

[terse idol]

The issue is automatic weapons like the recon have a crit chain

[candid agate]

strugglers keep on struggling

[terse idol]

So you get a crit, and only the next few shots are crits

It limits crit

[full nacelle]

wait wait wait

dismantling weapons gives plasteel now?

[terse idol]

(This is certainly the discussion about not running head hunter and instead running double damage blessings)

[flat pebble]

I haven’t been able to play missions yet, but I do know if you sacrifice a weapon to the same weapon you’re trying to increase a mastery level for you get increased exp

[untold mulch]

okay, gotta say

being able to change a weapon mark on the fly, what a comodity

[fading yarrow]

It's nice that Brunt's shop is just a Mastery boost on a 60 minute cooldown now

[trim steppe]

if you queue a mission and it takes you to a droppod instead of the mission lobby, you alt-f4 immediately so you dont experience what just happened to you

[flat pebble]

so if you dump old pswords into your psword mastery you level it up very very quickly

[untold mulch]

tho, no idea why tf Obese Fish changed some weapon names

my brain is getting confused

[wet elk]

but dont you lose achievemnt progress?

[terse idol]

I think every crit chain only has X shots and then you can't get another crit until a few shots after? It's why you can't just bust up like 50% crit chance and then have 50% of your 100 magazine be crits

[trim steppe]

nope

[atomic zephyr]

has anyone tested weight of fire + armorbane on a helbore?

[terse idol]

This is the big discussion about why just building straight damage is better

For recon las

[fading yarrow]

Btw frens, which of these allocations is better?

[wet elk]

so you just alt+f4 when you are downed? lol

[flat pebble]

not to mention depending on the weapons finesse value crits might not actually do a significant amount of increased damage

[trim steppe]

you said that part not me

[wet elk]

💀

[flat pebble]

dumped charge rate

[untold mulch]

In recon case, a big part of crits is with shocktrooper

[terse idol]

Iirc headhunter may only increase your damage by like 5% or something
But this is me like speaking from what I've read here, certainly would try both

[untold mulch]

to get more ammo for your buck

[abstract moth]

I see, yeah I saw that was just wondering if they actually made it on weapon use or is always just dependent on mission exp so you dont even have to use much the weapon to lvl it up

[terse idol]

Imo I think naturally you can just have innate crit give you ammo back without headhunter

[untold mulch]

you notice shocktrooper work

because I once forgot to have it equipped and was wondering why I was reloading so much

[terse idol]

And then supplement with a few ammo tins

[rose gale]

so with the new system should i just be spam buying weapons from brunt until i get a good roll or is there a more efficient method ?

[frank ether]

F

[untold mulch]

oh yep, definitely

[frank ether]

my only complaint is the mission timer

[untold mulch]

Is kinda stingy no?

[flat pebble]

Unfortunately dunno yet

[frank ether]

you can speedrun it in like 8 minutes give or take

[distant phoenix]

What does the plasmagun blessing "Rising Heat" do? +20% of what exactly

[fading yarrow]

Yes
It shouldn't take long because they made it easier to get good rolls
Missions also give better rolls now

[untold mulch]

btw, I need a clean rip of the OST

ebcause I cant hear the new song in peace

[vestal widget]

power, assuming patch notes are correct

[terse idol]

Aww man

[nova dirge]

Should I use the sapper shovel or the power sword w a plasma gun?

[distant phoenix]

Ah nice

[terse idol]

I'm not like crazy about timed missions but how long does it give you?

[rose gale]

aight, just gotta choose if i wanna spend all my money on a lasgun or an autogun

[fleet garden]

you gotta grind a bit to unlock blessings though, kinda strange since ppl had tier 3 and 4 from pre patch

[distant phoenix]

Power sword and plasma go hand in hand

[fading yarrow]

Both are good but I suggest Power Sword

[flat pebble]

I prefer the shovel because I can run faster with it in my hand

[untold mulch]

I did it in T4 with 10 min and had little to spare? maybe?

[terse idol]

That's kiiinda close

[rose gale]

not too much time but it is pretty short, unless you take too long with the hacking minigame it should be fine

[trim steppe]

https://open.spotify.com/album/6QHP3eZsj3uI9obi29yyMH?si=K0Jg4CQGTquAqq_FE71ABg

[untold mulch]

I personally hoped at least 15 min mission

10ish feels too little imo

[flat pebble]

with the power sword and the plasma you’re gonna be on the slow side and have in general less mobility

[rose gale]

i think i got my first run with a second left as the timer bar was empty

[distant phoenix]

At least that penance for zealot should be easy

The one under 20 mins

[fleet garden]

how do you up your wep lvl? gotta max the mastery or?

[untold mulch]

May the Machine God bless you with ininterrupted Noosphere access 🙏

[distant phoenix]

Using it in matches

Then spending blessing points in mastery screen

[nova dirge]

What blessing would you recommend for the shovel?

[distant phoenix]

Or sacrificing other weapons to hadron

[distant phoenix]

Hang on, I use:

[flat pebble]

Uncanny skullcrusher imo, others like decimator uncanny and decimator skullcrusher

for perks I use flak unarmored because I’m mostly using the sapper on hordes and switching to the plasma gun for specialists and elites

[untold mulch]

I need to check my shovel blessings, getting Thrust 4 I think I can get a one hit kill to crushers

[distant phoenix]

Yes uncanny skullcrusher

[flat pebble]

yes uncanny skullcrusher

[rose gale]

80% is the max you can get in a single stat right ?

[terse idol]

Yeah

[untold mulch]

for now

[distant phoenix]

I used decimator but it's a pain bc if you miss one swing you lose the whole stack

[untold mulch]

I need 100%

gib

[flat pebble]

that’s why I don’t like it, but decimator as a power bonus does theoretically mean it can get better horde clear

[distant phoenix]

Yeah

[untold mulch]

Also I was coping hard for a Hellgun this update

[flat pebble]

skullcrusher doesn’t fuck around though with a potential 80% damage taken debuff

[untold mulch]

any hint

please

[distant phoenix]

I have skullcrusher and decimator on my mk1 rn but once I get uncanny I'll swap

[orchid hemlock]

Uncanny + Skull

[flat pebble]

shout out a monstrosity, bonk it twice, then unload nades and ranged on it

[orchid hemlock]

Don't listen to these squares

[sleek garden]

i wish the shovel had cleave blessings

[nova dirge]

Okay, which mark

[abstract moth]

I guess I can make use of those boxes of power swords now

[distant phoenix]

I'm not a square! I'm a hexagon 😠

[flat pebble]

I prefer the plain not folding one for light spam horde clear

[orchid hemlock]

Oh I thought u were talking about standard, the blessings are different for each 😔

[distant phoenix]

Mk1 has better reach and the special can stagger ragers

[nova dirge]

Oh i didnt know that

[flat pebble]

yeah for the folding shovels thrust gets you to some funny breakpoints

[distant phoenix]

But the uhhh what's it called now used to be mk7 cam one shot crushers if you build it right

[distant phoenix]

Yup

[orchid hemlock]

You're supposed to heavy spam for hordes

Smhead

[terse idol]

Thrust is very clunky though I've found

[flat pebble]

I’m not supposed to do anything nerd

[terse idol]

Lord forbid you ever need to use your melee weapon for abit and THEN a crusher walks up

[flat pebble]

you can’t even breathe while on land idiot

[orchid hemlock]

Yes I can

[flat pebble]

nuh uh

[terse idol]

Orcas are mammals

[orchid hemlock]

Yes

[terse idol]

[abstract moth]

Me too that's my favorite shovel, even tho I don't use them much

[flat pebble]

you need the water to support your body

[orchid hemlock]

Best shovel is standard change my mind

[terse idol]

But he can breath on land!

[flat pebble]

such that your weight isn’t too much for the expansion of your lungs

[terse idol]

He'll just dry out

[abstract moth]

Now veteran can use the dueling sword and heavy sword

[orchid hemlock]

I will die from dehydration, but I can still breathe

[terse idol]

Just get a garden hose

[distant phoenix]

I'll use power sword with plasma but anything else I'm takin me trusty shovel

[rose gale]

so when rolling for weapons i really just gotta worry about the max stats in a slot, not the current right ?

[last parcel]

pretty much

[flat pebble]

i mean whales evolved utilizing the buoyancy of their blubber in water to more easily expand their lungs, without that buoyancy they do literally have difficulty breathing under their own weight

google is free

[rose gale]

cool

[distant phoenix]

Second best is the mkVII

[abstract moth]

I mostly use chainsword or Rashad or power sword, the mace is fun too tho

[flat pebble]

also yeah the standard shovel is best shovel

[orchid hemlock]

You said that I cannot breathe on land

[distant phoenix]

Only bc of its breakpoints

[orchid hemlock]

Take the L u debating with a sea mammal 🙄

[sterile phoenix]

So just downloading the update. Any tips on best using the new crafting system?

[flat pebble]

i was also making a throwaway joke and it gets less funny if I spend words trying to be as technically correct as possible

Smh my head

[terse idol]

Must be correct about

Aquatic creatures

[distant phoenix]

Womp womp 😄

[flat pebble]

empty your mind

[distant phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-lily-vtuber-orca-wink-gif-24902216

[orchid hemlock]

Ah the good old, nobody laughed so you try to dig your own grave to dodge the humiliation

[terse idol]

Oh speaking of this is definetly veteran coded but check out this chonker

[orchid hemlock]

We don't claim her

[flat pebble]

lol

[abstract moth]

Sacrifice old weapon models to lvl faster a weapon you want

[flat pebble]

wow you read me like a book

[distant phoenix]

[orchid hemlock]

Yep 😎👌

[flat pebble]

you seem like you know me intensely after such a brief period of time are you interested in being my therapist

i can go to you I know you have difficulty breathing on land

[orchid hemlock]

Nah, gotta pay me first

[flat pebble]

(Is that better am I allowed to make that joke now that it’s perfectly correct)

[orchid hemlock]

Wait that was a joke?

[flat pebble]

oh buddy lol

[atomic zephyr]

huh, new mission is intereting

[abstract moth]

Is pretty fun, if your teammates dont die quickly

[flat pebble]

where do find those teammates

[abstract moth]

Could've made more of those

[orchid hemlock]

That party maker is empty

Wtf

[abstract moth]

Is very short

[atomic zephyr]

i actually just timed out of it, teammates spent too long killing chaff lol

[frozen meadow]

I swear there was a talent which let me get bleeding with crits on my scattershotgun, am I gaslighting myself?

[rose gale]

aaand all my money is gone and not a single good autogun

[atomic zephyr]

flechette?

[frozen meadow]

that must have been it ty

[misty vigil]

yall like my new shotgun, i think it's op

[frozen meadow]

I am stupid, had wrong shotgun mark on

[abstract moth]

Yeah that's thing, but suppose is the fun of the mission too, to be quick and kill efficiently

[terse idol]

Flechette

[terse idol]

It shoots peas at very long ranges

Not bad, not bad at all

[fast heart]

I can finally sell all of this shit

Holy

[rose gale]

what would be a perfect stat alocation on an infantry autogun 60 mobility and 80 on everything else ?

[abstract moth]

I have the the same with all friggin gold psword6 , but I'll dump them into the exp of the weapon

[terse idol]

That might be the best distribution for all weapons tbh

[jaunty sphinx]

yea

hey anyone getting performance stutters after this update? the game itself is running at 72 but im getting weird stuttering issues

[abstract moth]

I wish I had that 200k plaststeel now, only have 60k

[abstract moth]

It runs fine for me, but ofc they haven't at all fixed the disconnections which is unnerving

[flat pebble]

I was getting them when I tried the train mission briefly

[jaunty sphinx]

I found my issue, update disabled super resolution for me

[abstract moth]

I'd hoped we could got new weapons but no

[jaunty sphinx]

tbf we got them in the last update which was originally gonna be part of this update

and we got a buncha rebalancing so im not too upset

[ivory rock]

I have no fucking clue what I'm looking at anymore

[jaunty sphinx]

the second number is its max potential

[stiff merlin]

arg, they reset talent! crap, I should have written things down!

[jaunty sphinx]

right

[crystal bloom]

did Gets Hot blessing change this patch or was that from a previous patch that I missed?

[jaunty sphinx]

im glad I had my main build memorized at least

[abstract moth]

I mean I'd just want more variety but mostly some dualwiled weapons

[tranquil bronze]

What's the easy way to do Unseen Predator? Smoke nade?

[wise fossil]

Did you check the new frame generation setting?

People were saying it got enabled by default

[jaunty sphinx]

yeah had to turn it off

[ivory rock]

Okay so now that we can just swap between marks can we just get rid of old weapons lmao

[fleet garden]

how do you disable it

[ivory rock]

Like just one of each n im set

[abstract moth]

Pretty much that's what I'm doing, going to take a while

[ivory rock]

also can we see the base number anywhere or is it just this now

Like I swear if I looked at a blue before I'd see the value of its base stats somewhere

[jaunty sphinx]

YOOOO YOU CAN MAKE FLAMERS EXPLODE BY SHOOTING THEIR GAS TANK NOW FUCK YESSSSSS

[sterile phoenix]

Best blessings for the Mk IX lasgun?

[junior needle]

That's uhhhhhhhhhhhh

What kind of weapon

[sterile phoenix]

Infantry Lasgun

[jaunty sphinx]

should still apply

[abstract moth]

Oh so that's what that thing flying, was kinda confused in the mayhem

[junior needle]

They scuffed the names of everything

[jaunty sphinx]

you can swap between the marks now

[junior needle]

Is that the one formerly known as the 1a

[last parcel]

guide in the pins

[last parcel]

the artist formerly known as mg12

[sterile phoenix]

nah it's the old mg12

Is the old 1a still superior?

[junior needle]

Yes

Unless k12 received buffs

1a is just better

[umbral scaffold]

huh did my talents tree get restted

[fleet garden]

is frame gen on by default or did it get fixed?

[umbral scaffold]

godamith i had 4

sudently dont wanna play this tn 🤒 '

[ivory rock]

I actually feel about as smart as an Ogryn rn w this patch lmaooo

[faint beacon]

PSA: Dueling Sword is fair and balanced

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iKNEaZKv7mdJMGt3y/d13376O6CBgG?invite=cr-MSxPdDksMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[bronze badger]

what changed from before? just the fact that you can roll the right perks and blessings?

[wet elk]

so now you can just swap perks as many time as you want?

[sterile phoenix]

Any of the new melee weapons looking good for veteran now?

[blazing notch]

It was on by default for me, for some reason

[woven coral]

what does Rising Heat do for the plasma?

[flat pebble]

hsword is nice

[sterile phoenix]

And are there any up to date builds for executioner stance veteran?

[woven coral]

just says Up to % scaling with heat level

[fleet garden]

so

like I maxed my mastery on my infantry autoguns and I cant sacrifice more weapons to hadron, do I have to play with them to unlock blessings then?

[faint beacon]

heavy swords

Dueling Swords are beyond stupid but thats with everyone

[flat pebble]

no now you go to the mastery tab in your inventory and unlock the blessings with blessing points

[fleet garden]

maxed, locked #2

[bronze badger]

the AMD version of DLSS was on for me by default, switching it to NVIDIA (i have nvidia card) gave me double fps

[flat pebble]

and then you will be able to swap out blessings freely

[fleet garden]

cant, they are locked

[sterile phoenix]

Main stats on it?

[flat pebble]

take a full screen grab of the second screen pls

[fleet garden]

mastery screen

cant lvl up dum dum nor deathspitter

[flat pebble]

yeah you need to upgrade the tier of that circle thing on the left to 4

[faint beacon]

You have to level other blessings up

[fleet garden]

oh

[flat pebble]

Just level up all the blessings evenly

[faint beacon]

Haven

[fleet garden]

now it worked, ty

[faint beacon]

even stepped foot in a match

and my mastery is already looking like this lmao

[ivory rock]

So it seems sacrificing weapons of the same class gives more xp right?

[flat pebble]

yep!

[faint beacon]

Yes

[flat pebble]

a lot more

[faint beacon]

literally upgrade them once

easiest mastery farm ever

[ivory rock]

Hmmmm I see so sacrifice all of em to one cause you can swap between mark versions now?

This gonna take a hot min across all my characters lmao

[flat pebble]

yeah you can do that if you want

yeah I spent like more than hour upgrading my mastery across my characters and I still have many more to go lol

[sterile phoenix]

Thanks. Any up to date builds for executioner's stance veteran?

[flat pebble]

shouldn’t really be any different than previously except now there’s one freed up talent point no?

[abstract moth]

I just noticed they changed the weapons mark names that kinda sucks

[flat pebble]

it’s really annoying lol

[torn gorge]

ye i ended up removing all the skins

just to have a visual cue

[flat pebble]

if you don’t visually recognize all the base weapon shapes it’s fucked

[sharp ember]

hello vet chat i have been resurrected by this patch
oh god my weapon primer is so out of date because of the weapon renaming

[tall torrent]

Fortunately after sorting through my inventory I now have every weapon godroll and don’t need to worry abt it as much

[torn gorge]

im still in the process of doing so

[flat pebble]

fatshark didn’t want to let the people who make guides go without some fun 🙂

[abstract moth]

Ikr! Made effort to remember the names and now they changed it

[torn gorge]

and i have 3 more characters

[tall torrent]

Took me 4hrs to get through my inventory

[torn gorge]

i bet

still have to surrender all the dupes to hadron too

[tall torrent]

I just keep 1 best roll in a weapon family

[ivory rock]

Does the rarity of the weapon also affect the xp during sacrifice? I'd assume so but my character is currently too broke to check xd

[nocturne mulch]

Wth are these bolter buffs....

[nova dirge]

What kinda curios should I be using?

[rose gale]

gotta keep em on their toes

[tall torrent]

Make sure the harvested ones are corresponding to the weapon family you’re sacrificing to

[nocturne mulch]

Such unecessary power creep

[tall torrent]

Ex: braced autogun (green) sacrificed to boost braced autogun mastery XP is like 7.6k per item

[nocturne mulch]

That hitscan buff is too much

[flat pebble]

I like +3 stam +21 health +17 toughness on vet generally

[fleet garden]

is the bolter good again?

[nocturne mulch]

It was always good

[flat pebble]

always been good.jpg

[nocturne mulch]

It is now too good

[flat pebble]

they made it less janky though

[torn gorge]

oh ye

[nocturne mulch]

You can purposefully aim at the air next to their heads and still get weakspot hits lmao

[torn gorge]

although i have some dupes for weapons that im apparently already at mastery 20

[nova dirge]

Like you make all the perks for each curio one of those stats?

[torn gorge]

[nocturne mulch]

Its braindead easy

[abstract moth]

Yeah bolter and bolt pistol always fun, now I just need dualwiled bolt pistols

[flat pebble]

so you will just need to get lucky on the main stats in the shop or melk’s

but you can freely modify the sub perks

[tall torrent]

Highest curio rating is 430

[nova dirge]

Oh i gotcha

[hollow warren]

now I'm happy

[nocturne mulch]

Bolter was fine before, people who could aim didnt have any issues with it. Only thing that needed buffing was making it open bulwarks in 1 hipfire again.

[nova dirge]

What perks do you take?

[flat pebble]

for the subperks it ends up being personal preference, you can’t really go wrong with more toughness and health, stamina regen and gunner resist

opinions vary wildly

[sterile phoenix]

Do lasgun builds prefer executioner stance or shout

[flat pebble]

I don’t like combat ability regen because on a lot of abilities it only reduces cooldowns by like… 4 seconds

[torn gorge]

did anyone try yet deadshot/left capstone

[tall torrent]

Depends on which Lasgun

[torn gorge]

with tunnel vision

or w/e the name

[sterile phoenix]

former 1a

[tall torrent]

Either works fine

[nova dirge]

What about revive speed?

[flat pebble]

i mean objectively it was janky and still is a bit janky

[abstract moth]

I often go for ability regen, stamina, revive speed and armor

[faint beacon]

Yes but Green is just the most effecient to make and sacrifice for XP

[flat pebble]

it’s fine, depending on the group you’re in you might not really be making use of it but I take one or two on my often because I usually end up being the person to tank out of position revives and it makes them a bit faster

[nocturne mulch]

And objectively the jank was completely neglible and had no affect.

[ivory rock]

Okay tho how do I get the notif thing to go away I have gone thru every weapon and seeing it is making me convulse

[tall torrent]

It’s bugged

[nova dirge]

What about extra wounds, are those important?

[flat pebble]

uhhhh ok sure

[nocturne mulch]

Now you dont even have to animation reset, the sway is reduced so much you can just spam left click and get 100% weakspot hits without any effort due to the hitscan increase

[flat pebble]

they’re a crutch, get used to not using them

[tall torrent]

At one point I got them gone
But Psyker’s electro kinetic staff is bugged to have 4 more blessing points than needed

[flat pebble]

unless you’re specifically using a martydom zealot build

[ivory rock]

ah fuck

[tall torrent]

So now I’m stuck with a pop up lol

[nocturne mulch]

Your take is bad. Kinda like the reddit whiners. "Hurr durr bolter ADS jank hurr durr". So get better and learn to compensate? That's what the rest of us have done.

[abstract moth]

Lul ive seen pyskers with so many health curious, because they likely to explode is always funny

[hollow warren]

Some weapons have extra points that you can't use since all blessings are unlocked. So it will remain like that until ObeseFish fixes it

[nocturne mulch]

If you couldnt hit 100% weakspot before this buff because of "jank", sorry to say the issue isn't the jank, it's your aiming.

[flat pebble]

i use the bolter all the time and if you’ve ever seen me in this chat you would know I have been a bolter apologist lol

it doesn’t mean that the sway wasn’t too much and the ads thing is weird and janky

[nocturne mulch]

Now they have made it so there is 0 effort required.

It's basically plasma with a fraction of recoil and no infinite cleave

[abstract moth]

Wait you're telling me they nerfed the recoil?

[flat pebble]

nah they made the hitscan far more forgiving

[nocturne mulch]

It is going to be relegated to the "too easy" pile

[steep vault]

shovel perks?

it's minmaxed

[flat pebble]

and reduced the sway by like 70%

[flat pebble]

which shovel

[nocturne mulch]

They reduced the sway, so it doesnt jump around between shots anymore

[tall torrent]

No recoil changes, made ADS sway 70% less

[steep vault]

munitorum issued

[fleet garden]

whats the best heavy sword mk

[flat pebble]

9

[steep vault]

IX I think

I used IX

[tall torrent]

IX

[toxic leaf]

i was so disappointed with ehavy sword, its just a harder to use combat axe

[tall torrent]

There’s VI, VII and IX

[fleet garden]

ty

[flat pebble]

I prefer unarmored and flak for cheap horde clear

[nocturne mulch]

And dueling sword on vet? And giving thrust to dueling sword?

Power creep

[sleek garden]

just witnessed a psyker only doing primary fire puffs with the purgatus staff

[nocturne mulch]

Im going to have a lot of fun doing true solo with dueling sword + bolt pistol

[sleek garden]

we lost

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iKNEaZKv7mdJMGt3y/d1337yHaoHl4?invite=cr-MSxEdzAsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

Fair and Balanced

[nocturne mulch]

Yeah basically my exact experience when I tested it

[abstract moth]

Yeah that's what I mean, like when I aim for head goes pium head pop but then the aim goes like in another state so I have to quickly recalibrate, that's what they changed?

[tall torrent]

Duelling sword in the hands of a psyker: duelling sword

Duelling sword in the hands of a veteran: power sabre

[faint beacon]

I cannot begin to explain how FUCKING nice it is

[toxic leaf]

it has no horde clearing

[faint beacon]

to use an Agri 9 with 80 Stab

[nocturne mulch]

Correct, the recoil doesnt feel "random" anymore. It is predictable which lets you recover from shots

[faint beacon]

literally butter smooth recoil

[tall torrent]

WS db shotgun

The new shotgun skin is super nice too

[junior needle]

Balancing weapons with jank is just bad game design to begin with

[sleek garden]

im getting to set up my old kantrael lasgun and now it finally one shots bruisers

[fleet garden]

so is the duelling sword better than the heavy?

[abstract moth]

Awesome!

[candid bridge]

whats go to blessings for mk6 power sword?

[faint beacon]

Horde clear fuck no

Anti Elite/Special

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515538475134998/1288616104004161596/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Screenshot_2024.09.25_-_17.39.41.62.png?ex=66f5d4c4&is=66f48344&hm=813e6ba2b6d1fa5bf638ae25308be7070d2c13156526fd21e0eb9acfa9b8573d&

[faint beacon]

yes

[tall torrent]

Beautiful gun

[toxic leaf]

heavy sword isnt bad, but if you ahve no melee skills on the tree, i would prefer power sword. and if you do, its much worse than the rashad

[flat pebble]

sway means passive weapon sway

slight horizontal and vertical movement while holding ads

[crimson pebble]

by the omnessiah

[torn gorge]

heavy sword needs power modifiers

[flat pebble]

the recoil after firing still goes crazy

[torn gorge]

else you are gonna cry vs armour

[faint beacon]

Rending strikes talent helps

[flat pebble]

arguably that’s why it’s better on vet because vet has more answers in their kit for armor

[faint beacon]

just not a shit ton

[junior needle]

Headtaker mandatory last I checked

[abstract moth]

Is it like when you shoot the the weapon aims somewhere else of where you were previously aiming at?

[tall torrent]

Yea

[frank ether]

its never gonna have good carapace regardless of how much power you dump into it

[tall torrent]

That’s how much Boltgun sway was

[flat pebble]

Headtaker death blow is basically still mandatory

[ivory rock]

Wait was Vet the only class that talents reset?

[frank ether]

why try to build a weapon for what its not suited for

[junior needle]

No more rampage?

[frank ether]

you use the sabers to blender fleshy enemies not armored ones

[flat pebble]

you know how in cod you have to hold your breath while aiming snipers or else it moves idly?

[flat pebble]

headtaker has a higher power total than rampage but I mean I guess you could do rampage too

[torn gorge]

eh

[tall torrent]

No, I think every class besides zealot

[torn gorge]

i played a lot of HS on zealot

[junior needle]

It'd be instead of deathblow

[toxic leaf]

ive found heavy sword is just problematic with horde clearing vs rashad or ps6 or even shovel

armor is whatever, just use kraks

[torn gorge]

i cant think of anything but a sidegrade for vet

[abstract moth]

Yeah kek is wholesome if they changed that, now I can snipe snipers with more satisfaction

[flat pebble]

oh, no since they changed deathblow to be renamed brutal momentum it’s BIS no question

[tall torrent]

HT on heavy sword is 40% from hitting things
Rampage is 36% and doesn’t activate vs high mass elites

[junior needle]

One of the zealot pins had headtaker/rampage for two variants and headtaker/DB for the 9

[flat pebble]

that’s probably pre patch 13 before they changed deathblow

Headtaker rampage was the pick then

[frank ether]

not taking BM is wild

[abstract moth]

To keep it stable, yeah but I've always use it for sniper rifles

[flat pebble]

unless they’re just saying choose rampage because they don’t have good horizontal combos

[tall torrent]

Tbh
Mk7’s H1 is kinda weird

[sleek garden]

i just got kicked from my match then while i was loading in i got kicked again

[frank ether]

Idk how horde clear can be ''bad'' on the sabers when they are an upgrade over the d.claws lmao

if your standard is ps6 or rashad then prepare to complain a lot

[toxic leaf]

9 has good horizontal heavies

[flat pebble]

some people don’t like heavy attack spam weapons

[tall torrent]

Duelling swords have 2x slower horde clear than knife

[sleek garden]

the rashad shouldnt be the best horde clear weapon

[toxic leaf]

yea the problem is that heavy sword neesd to use heavies while rashad does the same thing with lights

[misty vigil]

lasgun accatron stealth veteran praise be \o/

[frank ether]

they are very much an extreme that I don't care much for

[toxic leaf]

its just completely crazy

[sleek garden]

single target weapons shouldnt just randomly be the best at everything

[frank ether]

heavy swords however? They fill a niche I want, which is d.claw but with BM instead of a parry

[flat pebble]

hsword gets funny OHKs on maniac enemies that combat axes don’t tho

[misty vigil]

new update.

empower

does this mean any weapon has the potential to reach 500?

[flat pebble]

well actually they might now that they changed the ADM of combat axe heavies idk

[tall torrent]

U said sabre so I assumed duelling sword

[flat pebble]

I assumed hsword lol

[pseudo fiber]

Yuh

[flat pebble]

someone referred to an hsword as a saber earlier

[misty vigil]

so it doesn't matter what i buy from brunt anymore on a base power rating scale?

[pseudo fiber]

Well they have different potential maximums but no

[tall torrent]

Elite + maniac imo

[flat pebble]

uh oh azreal is cooking

[faint beacon]

She's a Beaute

[misty vigil]

by potential maximums, do you mean the stat %'s and not the rating.

[tall torrent]

Non-Crit breakpoints

U still get crusher 2 shot with it

[last parcel]

sprint eff + stam

[tall torrent]

I think Dreg gunner?

No AE

[misty vigil]

or would a 370 from brunt, be a lower rated maxed out after empowerment, than a 380 bought from brunt

[abstract moth]

Which is the best heavy sword in your opinion? I think my favorite is mark 6 in terms of move sets

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah

[flat pebble]

I can’t make sense of the spreadsheet what does infested do for the revolver

[tall torrent]

And scab rager

[atomic zephyr]

dueling sword kinda crazy on vet

[tall torrent]

Scab rager Crit bodyshot 1 tap

[misty vigil]

okay i had a feeling.

[flat pebble]

9 for the horizontal heavy loop

[tall torrent]

Elite + superiority complex

[fleet garden]

so heavy or duelling?

[tall torrent]

Ya but elite gives u non-Crit Dreg gunner 1HS

And afaik that Crit extra damage doesn’t hit bps besides funny crusher 1 tap

[misty vigil]

am i crazy, or does this gun not seem right % vs rating

[frank ether]

ah no, I meant the heavy sword as they look like proper sabers, dueling sword is more of a toothpick lol

[tall torrent]

I was unironically considering weakspot damage on Rashad earlier

[misty vigil]

4 80's, and a 35%?

[flat pebble]

oh that makes sense. your techs sometimes are out there I was expecting something like it lets you cleave through n numbers of poxers

[tall torrent]

Carapace + weakspot?

[abstract moth]

I'll have to use it more now that's on veteran too, I'd wish they'd put heavy eviscerator too haha

[tall torrent]

Cuz I’m pretty sure weakspot on a 4x80 Rashad is the exact breakpoint for elites as 10% elite but applies to more targets

[misty vigil]

veterans with heavy eviscerator would be my dream. i main a melee tank vet and like the attack speed i have with it

[frank ether]

bladed momentum is... not terrible btw

[tall torrent]

Guess I’m gonna play weakspot + carapace on my Rashad

[frank ether]

its pretty ok for horde blender purposes and does not help at all for single target killing

[flat pebble]

i just wish it had an easier proc parameter

i want to use it against crushers and maulers

[abstract moth]

I mean that's the only reason I play zealot 70% of the times

[frank ether]

I don't think these weapons will ever excel against carapace and to me thats fine

[fast heart]

Was he here forever?

[frank ether]

but I'd like it helping with unyielding yeah

[flat pebble]

they just added him in the mourningstar lol

[sleek garden]

swords dont sound like they are made to break armor

[flat pebble]

something something the warp

[abstract moth]

Was always flak

[frank ether]

thats wild

[candid bridge]

what does "strength" mean?

[abstract moth]

Wait tought the scab, isn't dreg unarmored

[frank ether]

power renamed

[candid bridge]

ah, thank you

[sullen scarab]

Does anyone have a good Recon lasgun build? I had Azreal's saved but the patch deleted it lmao

[frank ether]

I'd just take whatever ult you desire and then gun for weapon spec

unless u meant weapon build itself then you have some options

[wise fossil]

I was browsing a few days ago with this exact question

These are the very good recon talents

[sullen scarab]

awesome, thanks!

ok good i have somethingl ike that

[tall torrent]

It’s alr but it’s competing against bigger boosts

I been running superiority + marksman for my Zarona build

Might try that

Guess I’ll spec into frag at start

[frozen meadow]

how do I fix this?

[tall torrent]

And just run 2x 5% range damage + fire team

[frank ether]

eh I mean, better to have something other than headtaker available yknow? Idk what else would I even run

[frozen meadow]

I changed mark on a recon gun

[slow spade]

man that new map is rough on a lasgun holy shit

[tall torrent]

Chained deathblow is pretty based imo

[tall torrent]

It’s literally death funnel

[frank ether]

mm, do tell, I should try it

[slow spade]

Emperor give me a flamer

[tall torrent]

U either cook everything in a straight line or u get cooked

[slow spade]

plasma supremacy UwU

[tall torrent]

+20% M.crit chance for 3s on melee weakspot kill

[slow spade]

I actually had to reload my gun

[tall torrent]

I think I spent like 1.6M dockets today just upgrading mastery lol

[sleek garden]

the train mission is silly because the guy at the end can just ledge everyone

[tall torrent]

Ya the arena is a bit too small

[sleek garden]

which has happened all but one time

[tall torrent]

First mission I played we had 3 people get ledged separately

[sleek garden]

i managed to get the presitigious double disconnect where it kicked me then kicked me while i was on the dropship loading screen so it broke my comms

i have been disconnected 6 times in an hour

its kinda infuriating

[sullen scarab]

What Perks are best on the Devil's Claw, Flak/Unarmored?

[quick lantern]

what is the best infantry lasgun mk?

[frank ether]

hmm that does sound pretty nice, bit of a shame its on kill and not hit though

[tall torrent]

Also
Useless info maybe
Psyker’s new talent that reduces peril generation by 40% but reduces toughness replenishment by 30% is insane
You can unironically hold smite forever

[abstract moth]

Wdym I ran it was fine, pew pew

[sleek garden]

idk i had a lot of fun lol

shoot all the shooters

im using the mid grade kantrael

[tall torrent]

Tbh outside of Ogryn & maulers heavy sword kills almost everything in 1 hit anyway

[abstract moth]

Pew pew intensifies

[tall torrent]

Trust me just go superiority + marksman for gunner BP and run elite

[knotty viper]

what perks do you typically want on the mk6 sword? maniac/flak?

[tall torrent]

U get a dumber weapon than u think

[frank ether]

yeah I agree with this but I think I'm naturally inclined towards headtaker for general viability of it, and I would love to run the other two blessings if they had some better uptime that allowed me to carry it over to a boss or a bulwark

[tall torrent]

From what I remember
Gunner 1HS regardless of Crit
Crusher 2HS Crit
Scab rager 1 Crit (even bodyshot)

Spending 2 points for 3 breakpoints is not bad imo

Since u need unarmored/carapace and take an extra 5% ranged damage anyway

And that only does half the thing this does

[frank ether]

man this patch introduces some wild power creep

[fleet garden]

so for heavy swords you gonna go with the IX

[tall torrent]

Is this patch the coming of weakspot damage perk meta

Ykw
Run&gun + hand cannon

Trust the meme

[solemn pelican]

Does the item store change today? or is it going to be tomorrow my time

[tall torrent]

Run&gun is 15% C.damage while sprinting that’ll prob hit everything u need unironically

[tall torrent]

Cosmetic shop is tmr