veteran-class

[supple stag]

It's an alright weapon, just because it's 255

So you one tap heavy zeals in the head

[frank basin]

Run aced gaze

[austere mica]

Oh, well that was never relevant to me

[supple stag]

Graze is a must on any sniper anyway

[austere mica]

Graze is so goofy

I was so happy when they fixed its penchant for civilian casualties

[supple stag]

It's not relevant on Mayhem, also headshot multiplier is different on Mayhem than on DW and DS

And I speak purely from DS/DW experience

[frank basin]

Bulldozer headshot multiplayer decreased

In ds

[supple stag]

You don't really shoot dozers with a sniper rifle

[austere mica]

I do

[frank basin]

Sociopath with money bundle

[supple stag]

Unless you've got Thanatos or crits on your side

[austere mica]

Crossmap oneshots are a dopamine machine

[supple stag]

Otherwise you'll be wasting time

[frank basin]

Thanatos with unseen strike is risky

Try not get hit by goonlice

[supple stag]

Getting hit while unseen is active doesn't end it's effect

[frank basin]

Use the rogue like way not get hit often

Trying get more crit benefit

[faint beacon]

The fuck is being talked about in here

[supple stag]

PAYDAY

[frank basin]

Remember heavy crossbow deal 4000 dmg?

[faint beacon]

Doodooshart day 2

[frank basin]

Lmao

[frank basin]

Bloatday 2

[supple stag]

I've wasted so many hours in that game

It's concerning

[frank basin]

Like I did in warframe

Only 1k hour

[supple stag]

1k hours are baby hours

[faint beacon]

I mean at least you didn’t dump easily 15k into COD Zombies alone

[frank basin]

Because I do feel burnout easily

[supple stag]

Damn

[faint beacon]

Played since I was 9

Since WAW

now I’m fucking 22 still playing Zombies

[frank basin]

Cod waw

[supple stag]

Man WaW is the best WW2 cod

[frank basin]

I never play luxury games

When I was 6 til 14

All those age are flash games

[faint beacon]

https://youtu.be/IXK3BxWFRs4?si=c4V7Nlp2MPiQCGh7

Literally the best zombie sounds

I’ll die on this hill

[tall torrent]

It’s also one of the best WWII fps games ever

[faint beacon]

IF WE IGNORE

THE MP40

it’s an absolutely amazing game

[frank basin]

For being best?

[faint beacon]

MP40 was unironically a win button in multiplayer

[tall torrent]

I got it just for campaign and it’s very high up there

[faint beacon]

It’s campaign is stellar and gritty

Zombies

Fucking amazing

[frank basin]

You want play cod waw again?

[faint beacon]

I can just download plutonium

Which I need too tbh

You get on any old COD atm you risk getting your IP beamed

[frank basin]

The only first luxury fps I played is Black Hawk Down: Delta Force

And bullshit on steam they took it down

[supple stag]

I'd disagree

Type 100 was absolute house cleaner

[faint beacon]

Type 100 was overshadowed by it

It’s good just MP40 could literally shut down servers

[uncut pebble]

The mp40 deleted anything and everything you pointed it at.

[faint beacon]

I was a DP-28 user

[uncut pebble]

Any competent player could drop 40 killstreaks in a row with ease.

[uncut pebble]

[faint beacon]

Shit was fun what can I say lmao

[uncut pebble]

Dinner plate superiority.

[supple stag]

Ah yes, the pizza magazine machine gun

[faint beacon]

Look you have the benefit of

You run the Type 100 so you have dignity

If you used the MP40 we’d be disappointed

[uncut pebble]

-shitload of ammo
-clear sight picture
-not the type 100

[supple stag]

I was performing better with Type 100 than MP40

Or Thompson

[uncut pebble]

Then you're an outlier.

Mp40 sweeps.

[supple stag]

Nah

[faint beacon]

[supple stag]

Fuck MP40 man

[faint beacon]

Anything that isn’t MP40

[supple stag]

Most people I see in Multiplayer use either Type 100 or Thompson if we talk PMs

[faint beacon]

Honestly if I can get Plutonium set up sometime

I should use the DP again and the gun I never bothered trying but was interested in

SVT 40

[frank basin]

Degtyaryov Machine Gun

[supple stag]

SVT 40 and Gewehr were outshined by M1 Carbine

Some crackheads used Garand with Scope

[faint beacon]

Won’t stop me from using em

[faint beacon]

Okay that shit was funny sniping with though in their defense

[frank basin]

Probably good sniper

[supple stag]

Indeed it was

But annoying when their aim was on point

PTRS snipers were pussies

[faint beacon]

Getting 2 shot from any distance

[faint beacon]

Extra humiliating to die too cause you’d get gibbed from the caliber

[supple stag]

Yeah, also the gibbing was something

Nades, double barrel, artillery, PTRS

[faint beacon]

Rarely MGs

[supple stag]

Something you won't see in CoD nowadays

[faint beacon]

MG42

[frank basin]

Did any m1911 killed y’all?

[supple stag]

A few times

[frank basin]

gg

[supple stag]

Only 1 pistol really was giga bad

Nambu

[faint beacon]

Usually the .357 Revolver

[frank basin]

Japanese pistol aren’t great

[faint beacon]

Uninstall on the spot if you die to one

Lmao

[frank basin]

Even Japanese weapon too

[supple stag]

Real

[faint beacon]

Type 99 and 100 are good though

Type 99 was my other go to MG

Next to like the BAR

[frank basin]

If a spy main tf2 player play waw multiplayer probably they can shoot nambu headshot

[faint beacon]

I preferred my heavier guns

[supple stag]

I remember one guy who only played on sides that granted him gully suit with any of the snipers, used sticky nades, bayonet, and never fired his guns

Mfer always topscored

[frank basin]

Do he camp?

[supple stag]

I wouldn't say so

He was on the move

[frank basin]

Thought he sit there throw sticky nade on someone

Sit in corner wait sneak attack

[faint beacon]

Did he fucking

[supple stag]

The spawns switch relatively fast in older cods

[faint beacon]

Banzai charge people

[supple stag]

Yep

[faint beacon]

That is hilarious

[frank basin]

Crazy

Top score

[supple stag]

Dude had good movement on his end

[faint beacon]

Older cods that’s really all you needed

[frank basin]

waw pvp still alive?

[faint beacon]

A basic grasp on movement and positioning

Yeah through plutonium

[frank basin]

Oh

[supple stag]

It's fairly alive for a game that old

[faint beacon]

Same with COD Zombies on WAW

[supple stag]

Even on steam

Where most of my hours went

[frank basin]

The black Hawk down delta force is gone

That’s only thing i remember

[faint beacon]

I need to set up plutonium though I miss those old WAW maps

[tropic notch]

It’s easy if you have cod waw on steam

I have it

Need someone to play waw, bo1, and bo2 with

[final locust]

darktide update release early or something?

[marble lynx]

Came to ask this, what's with the ~~1.4GB ~~ 6.9 update

[last parcel]

#📢news-bulletin

[final locust]

love it

[final locust]

wont even lie, my internet is so crap especially downloading the update

whatever update it is

so i cant even load the news bulletin

[marble lynx]

Mine too

[final locust]

haha

i want that

[marble lynx]

It blows my mind WiFi can do this

given that I spent many years with a modem plugged into the telephone line where 1 meg per MINUTE was good

[final locust]

shame i live in a more rural place so my internet is dogwater

I was getting 100 Mbps a few months back

bro

im getting

156 kilobytes a second right now

[marble lynx]

Damn. You'll be done in about 10 days

[final locust]

4 hours haha

A few months ago this same internet was at 12 megabytes per second

dunno why it went down so much

[somber axle]

oh hey new Steel Legion stuff

Gale will be hyped

[marble lynx]

some kind of DSL ?

[final locust]

nah i live in a rural area with no proper fibre or anything

so I use essentially mobile internet

its a router with a sim

[marble lynx]

Yeah, so it's over the telephone line? Ohhh mobile. Damn yeah. Rough.

[final locust]

not over a telephone line

just completely wireless

[marble lynx]

gotcha, I just typed that first lol

[final locust]

ye

[marble lynx]

I'm one of these people who checks the internet speeds BEFORE I pick a place to live , it's that big a deal for me lol

[proud marsh]

Is hadron back open?

[final locust]

I live with my parents so I didnt have a choice

But previously it was pretty decent so I could get something like GTA 5 or RDR2 downloaded within a couple hours or something

[marble lynx]

fair. I mean not everybody is bothered by it as much as me either lol

[final locust]

but they just say "oh some of our equipment isnt working properly" or their phone mast "isnt working as it should"

then they spend 2 months fixing it

for it to go wrong again

[marble lynx]

What happens with mods after an update ?

[final locust]

So I take it this is the new update seeing as its 8 gigs to download

bulletin wont load for me haha

[pseudo fiber]

Yesnitnis

[errant oar]

Launching it rn 😳

[pseudo fiber]

Reuse the enable mods.bat file

Some will be broken if so you gotta wait

[marble lynx]

So just renable and the broken ones just won't work?

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah

Usually thatll be like true level

[final locust]

haha

@marble lynx my update will be done in 4 hours

i cant wait

[marble lynx]

It's amazing how much of a difference True Level makes

I thought it was a gimmick, but it i find it really helpful to see who to stick with in games

[blazing notch]

What is True Level? Haven't downloaded mods for this game

[pseudo fiber]

Shows how many times you've leveled past 30

So for example I'm level 30(+280)

[blazing notch]

Ahhh I see, is that account wide or still character specific?

[marble lynx]

And playing with a couple of level 300 people is a totally different experience to playing with other Level 40 ish players

[pseudo fiber]

Character specific

[marble lynx]

How many hours do level 300 players have?

[somber axle]

idk but I noticed I'm level 747 on my Vet and I have 1186 hours played

[marble lynx]

that's a LOT of hours

[somber axle]

and the majority of those hours have been Vet

[blazing notch]

Yeah I can definitely imagine that. I have a just about 20 hours shy of 200 hours and already got all 4 classes to 30, I'd be interested to see what my "True Level" is on my Vet

[marble lynx]

Never played 1000+ in something and I've been gaming all my life

[somber axle]

I have less than 100 matches on Zealot, less than 50 on Ogryn and maybe slightly more than 100 on Psyker

no idea how many for Vet

[blazing notch]

I have 3,700 hours in Destiny 2 😭 (don't worry I quit)

[pseudo fiber]

I have 550

[iron marten]

it's ok, I have 2.5k hours in CS2/CSGO. I have been angry for most of them

[blazing notch]

REAL lmao

[somber axle]

I'll never escape this digital circus

[blazing notch]

Better know every single molly lineup for Dust 2 or you get the chair

[blazing notch]

I lost a lot of clan members in D2 to FFXIV. They all seemed to love it. I couldn't get into it

[somber axle]

I fell hard into FF14 after WoW Shadowlands finally got me to quit WoW

I only started in Shadowbringers

If I was there from ARR onwards I'd probably be ashamed to share the number of hours

[iron marten]

My levels vs hours

[somber axle]

Maybe one day Darktide will get to half the number of FF14 hours

[somber axle]

Nice!

[rigid wadi]

can't believe how they destroyed brunt

[thin socket]

An early birthday gift has arrived

[rigid wadi]

i had to buy 4 chainswords until i got one with perfect stat spread

[marble lynx]

any logic to why some weapons are already max mastery but others not?

[iron marten]

damn

[rigid wadi]

that depends on how many blessings you had unlocked before the patch

[marble lynx]

Ohh interesting.

Annoying that I'm mastery on weapons I don't use but 0 on my main lol

[rigid wadi]

there might be a bug with the stat potentials of the weapons

[pseudo fiber]

Is it one that matches the known issues in the patch notes?

[rigid wadi]

havent seen those yet

[last parcel]

we’re so back

[rigid wadi]

yes

it was the wrong stat potential

but not really

mine had max potential but it switched the damage from 80 to 75 and the mobility from 60 to 65 after upgrading

[iron marten]

It's beautiful...

[final locust]

have builds been reset

or are they still good

[somber axle]

The blessings you'd collected before the update count as experience toward the mastery system. If you had already collected all tier 1, 2, 3 and 4 blessings for a weapon it is maxed out. Some weapons received new blessings with the update so even if you'd collected all blessings for that weapon you have new ones to unlock

Any weapons you were missing blessings for will require some grind to max

[final locust]

Im guessing that means the blessings already on my weapons will stay there

[somber axle]

Yeah

Locks should be gone so everything can be changed and god roll stat weapons can be turned into PERFECT weapons

[final locust]

nice

[final locust]

Did builds reset or nah

for character skills and stuff i mean

[somber axle]

I haven't gotten in to check talent trees but I don't think the update changed that for anyone

[final locust]

nice

[somber axle]

I vaguely remember seeing that there's a big Psyker tree change

[pseudo fiber]

They reset on psyker

[somber axle]

but idk if that's this update or a future one

[pseudo fiber]

And I've heard musings in ogryn chat they may have done it there too

[somber axle]

Ogryn got changes too?

[pseudo fiber]

Idk but their talents reset

[somber axle]

that's strange

[thick rose]

sharpshooter got changed

you get a basic skin for mastery for every weapon 😮

[somber axle]

OH NEAT

Time to get out the Moebian 21st Recon set

[last parcel]

we shall deliver the emperor’s peace

[somber axle]

OH NICE

selling weapons gives crafting materials

[thick rose]

oh thank fatshark, they made the penance completes way more responsive

which is good because im drowning in them now

[somber axle]

orange gives diamantine, plasteel and dockets
purple gives plasteel and dockets
green/grey give just dockets

[last parcel]

SHOOT THE FLAMER TANKS

[marble lynx]

The crafting is sooo good now I love it

[somber axle]

OH THEY EXPLOD EWHAT THE FUCK

moving fire barrel

we're going to see a lot more people thrown off ledges

[last parcel]

[winter grove]

Yoooooooo Vermintide 2

[somber axle]

ohmygosh all the guns got renamed

no one will know what gun is what

LMFAO

[winter grove]

wait

waitwaitwaitwait

what

show

[somber axle]

not ALL the guns

but a lot of them

LMFAO

[last parcel]

ciag is now viag
but we still have a ciag

[peak plinth]

New: Hot-Shot
Weak Spot Hits gain 20-50% Cleave.
hows this work ?

[proud marsh]

but why though?

[winter grove]

Wait

they

added

hotshot

?

[lime gyro]

What are good perks to look for regarding the Duelling sword?

[winter grove]

stfu hardron

[peak plinth]

thats what the notes say but i dont know how cleave works on guns

[pseudo fiber]

Precognition
Uncanny
Shred
Thrust maybe (might be a meme)

[thick rose]

wait

[pseudo fiber]

Same way it works on melee number of enemies it can pass through

[winter grove]

oh so they didn't add the hotshot lasgun

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/medic-tf2medic-idk-i-have-no-idea-crazy-gif-22434420

[thick rose]

you cant max every blessing with mastered weapon points?

[last parcel]

no it’s just a blessing name

[winter grove]

FUCK

[peak plinth]

ya i know right

[peak plinth]

thx

[lime gyro]

Ty

[last parcel]

they renamed a bunch of guns so we wouldnt have the same name for blessings and guns
guess that means no hotshot lasguns any time soon

[final locust]

fr im waiting on that like crazy, dont know why they havent added it yet

its like they think, "fans want this gun in the game, lets never add it in"

[sonic elk]

Kantrael MG XII Lasgun
No further context, just wanted an excuse to say my favorite lasgun

[somber axle]

one day they'll try to add it and have the same problem as Onslaught for both Helbore blessing and Vet talent, and just quietly change one hoping no one noticed they both exist

[last parcel]

oh well they renamed it so

[sonic elk]

Wait wuh?

[last parcel]

literally this patch an hour ago lmao

[winter grove]

You meant Kantrael Mk IX Infantry Lasgun right

[somber axle]

It's now called Mk IX!

[proud marsh]

Kantrael MG IX lasgun now.

[sonic elk]

My brain hurts, it went from 12 to 9?

[winter grove]

@tall torrent guess who has to redo the document now

[sonic elk]

I'm unable to look for myself because cloud gaming

[thick rose]

omfg. its going to take so long to boringly click every stupid mastery thing for every class

[last parcel]

yes they have a full list in the patch notes

[pseudo fiber]

OH THAT POOR BASTARD HAHAHAHA

[thick rose]

this is dumb as shit

[sonic elk]

Oke, I better learn how to read then

I'm too ogryn brained

As a more or less veteran main

[somber axle]

this is the funniest part

it's mostly Vet weapons that got changed LMFAO

he's gonna be so mad when he wakes up

[last parcel]

they also replaced power with strength

[somber axle]

Rashad Mk II Combat Axe -> Rashad Mk III Combat Axe

[last parcel]

but at least he saw that coming with the marksman desc

[somber axle]

just for no reason other than to watch his despair

Lawbringer is now the Zarona Shotgun what

[sonic elk]

I can't wait to see the name changes

I love memorizing new stuff

[somber axle]

Ohmygosh

[last parcel]

need to print this out

[somber axle]

Recon Mk II -> Recon Mk VIc

Recon Mk Sexy

[last parcel]

I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE LMAO

[proud marsh]

Have the weapon descriptions actually changed?

Or did they just change the names?

[last parcel]

just the names

the descriptions and tooltips might still use the old names until they hotfix

[proud marsh]

Oh okay

[pseudo fiber]

They got reset on vet too

[thick rose]

now that I can actually make them easily, is there a spreadsheet for veteran god rolls?

[last parcel]

guide in pins

[thick rose]

how outdated is it when it says outdated?

oh the WIP isnt

nm

[last parcel]

the link not the pdf

[thick rose]

my brain is broken from clicking every blessing for every weapon 4 times

[last parcel]

understandable

[forest scaffold]

veterans halp

ogryn need advice

what put on bolt pistol

[heavy rover]

Yes

[broken palm]

Did they only increase the damage of the kill zone perk?

[heavy rover]

In all seriousness it depends on the build you want to run

[forest scaffold]

yell vet

Real talk: Normal shout vet shenanigans with the weapon swap node

normally I'd run plasma/power sword or plasma/axe

but that's boring and I want to branch out

[grand perch]

well, time to reapply 30 skill points times 12 loadouts

and then the same for each of the other 3 classes

[forest scaffold]

easy answer seems like Execution and Glory hunter

I know vet isn't really begging for toughness

but glory hunter is just good so meh

[pseudo fiber]

Deadly accurate and surgical is good too

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, saw that combo too.

Feels more bolt-rifley to me though

May as well run that on the normal bolter

[somber axle]

Oh for Boltpistol there's two ways to run it on Vet iirc
Lethal Proximity and Puncture/Gloryhunter for Grenadier memes
Surgical + Deadly Accurate if you want to use it

There's a funny 1 tap breakpoint for Crusher heads with the Boltpistol but it may have changed as far as investment since Boltpistol got buffed for Carapace ADM slightly

[forest scaffold]

speaking of bolter

[somber axle]

I haven't toyed with the breakpoints in the new update

[forest scaffold]

I'll need to actually like

grind out exp on bolt pistol lmao

1700 hours and 0 of them with the bolt pistol

[somber axle]

At least it got buffed

Less sway, no more weakness to infested ADM

[forest scaffold]

I've just been on a gigahiatus and didn't feel like spending thousands of plasteel on a perfect bolt pistol when it was added

[somber axle]

and bullet radius increase??

with some bullet magnetism to head/torso

to avoid limbs

[pseudo fiber]

And the passthrough thing ue

[forest scaffold]

same with pickaxes on ogryn, double shotty and power maul

Bolter and uh

I guess power sword

because I'm a boring shout vet

mk6 power sword go swoosh swoosh

shit be looking fly as fuck though

[somber axle]

I really love a lot of the mechanicus looking skins

[pseudo fiber]

They look so good

[forest scaffold]

duh veteran

He just crawled out of a tank

[languid dune]

Sorting the update now on Eckbawks, how's it looking so far?

[forest scaffold]

Well I have 1700 hours in the game so I got to skip everything

[pseudo fiber]

Everyone is pleased.

[forest scaffold]

"Clicking: The Update" has been my experience lmao

[heavy rover]

Yeah I'm seconding the lethal proximity and gloryhunter / puncture build. It's fun pushing enemies hiding behind cover

[forest scaffold]

Noted

[last parcel]

i should check to be sure if lethl prox still affects grenades now lol

[forest scaffold]

Yeah I figured glory hunter had a nice spot on the bolt pistol looking at the other blessings

[heavy rover]

Since you're running yell vet I'm leaning more towards glory hunter for your case to maximize toughness uptime

[forest scaffold]

Like I said, vet's not really hurting for toughness

but every bit helps and there's a bajillion elites now

[heavy rover]

I really hope the lethal proximity still works for grenade

[forest scaffold]

may as well become inlvunerable+

[heavy rover]

It's hilarious

[languid dune]

Yeah I only have a bit around 220 hours, some weapons I will have good progress on

Others well

[forest scaffold]

I just have like 4 weapons to grind

Bolt Pistol, Shockmaul, Double Barrel Shotgun, Pickaxe

Everything else in the game should be maxed

I might have some stuff to do on psyker, haven't checked yet

[languid dune]

I was dumb and didn't grab a lot of blessings back then since I thought "oh well if it isn't tier 3 at least or one of the tier 2 max blessings, there's no point"

[forest scaffold]

Apparently tier 1 and 2 blessings didn't matter for this update

[thick rose]

empowering bugging for anyone else?

[forest scaffold]

Fatshark looked at the BTS data and saw that something like 95% of players only had tier 3 and tier 4 blessings/perks

so that's where the vast majority of mastery exp came from

[languid dune]

Ah ok

Regardless I still don't have that many Tier 3 and 4 either

[forest scaffold]

Well

at least you have targeted progression now

:)

We give fatsharks the dubs when they earn em

no more hadron roulette

[languid dune]

Everyone but Veteran, I'm basically gonna be progressing from scratch since I didn't play them as much due to just waiting for the craftening

How does it work anyway say if I have a gold weapon on them but have bugger all progression from blessings and such?

Will I basically have to lock myself to playing Malice

[tawdry jackal]

wonder what the new blessings will do for us on certain guns

[forest scaffold]

Well you got to keep all your old weapons

Which should be good for every difficulty if you've invested in them

as for grinding exp I have no idea?

[thick rose]

fucken

it keeps saying 'unable to perform operation' when I try to empower

[forest scaffold]

strange

I don't have anything that can be empowered lmao

[pseudo fiber]

I think the servers are shitting themselves rn

[grand perch]

HOLD UP NOW why do i have 0 blessing points for chainsword and duelling swords? i had all blessings unlocked for all weapons

is it just me?

[languid dune]

Maybe some weird case because it wasn't originally on Vet

[last parcel]

you need to use your mastery poijnts to reunlock them

[grand perch]

chainsword was

[pseudo fiber]

Is your mastery 20?

[grand perch]

i could just buy all blessings for most melee weapons except these 2

[pseudo fiber]

Would you look at that

Close and reopne

And then if that doesn't work restart the game?

[grand perch]

yeah restart fixes that

[pseudo fiber]

Good good

[tame lodge]

Oh we can explode flamers now

[manic umbra]

anyone feel like Rashad got a nerf or am I just imagining things

breakpoints feel off

Or maybe I’m just paranoid

[grand perch]

notes said only heavy attack got buffed in dmg and stagger

[tame lodge]

They turned Lawby into Zarona

[manic umbra]

Fatshark does stealth change stuff sometimes..

[tame lodge]

Gotta relearn names damnit

[split orbit]

Its in the patch notes part 1

[last parcel]

patch notes gonna stay pinned on my second monitor lol

[split orbit]

Kantrael became Accataran

[bronze badger]

i was so confused lookiung up lasgun variants earlier, the marks i found didnt match up at all xD im using the gas (such as "high damage" ) to navigate

[grand perch]

headhunter autoguns now called "vigilant". yeah i get the idea but headhunter was the perfect name for what theyre supposed to do

[drifting oak]

Ayo what

did veterans get dueling sword access

[toxic leaf]

im getting a heavy sword, fuck the knicks

[tame lodge]

Ooh Exec procs WS

[drifting oak]

dueling sword and heavy sword listed

but you can't buy them from Brunt

[grand perch]

they did announce the shop would be offline

[rigid wadi]

do you really expect people to read?

[pseudo fiber]

Looking in general chat

No.

[tame lodge]

Lmao

[earnest wedge]

you guys don't just complain in discord and wait to be corrected rather than just reading the patch notes?

[toxic leaf]

is it not sacrificing weapons properly?

[tame lodge]

I want to hear the VOs rn

[forest breach]

WHAAAT

[tame lodge]

Dukhane fit

[forest breach]

yeah

it looks amazing

[plush oracle]

yes

[winter dock]

Anyone else's mastery trees start out fucked?

I have the blessings "unlocked"

but my max weapon power is 100

and I cant switch between marks

[plush oracle]

I really hope we will wear comissar cosmetics but I'm not sure we can wear it

[forest breach]

well we have this lame ahh suit

[winter dock]

I still have my old weapons, thankfully, but I can't do anything to them, at all

[pine sedge]

We might get it, that's a different look than hers

She's got a black hat and no eye augmentic

[forest breach]

"To ensure a smooth release across all platforms, the Armory Exchange and Melk’s Requisitorium are currently closed for maintenance while the new update is being rolled out.

We’ll notify you once the maintenance has been completed! Thank you for your patience, Acolytes. You can follow the update here on Discord."

[pine sedge]

unless thats for the drip assembling the above image

[tame lodge]

Bro thinks he's on the team

[winter dock]

Thats not what I asked my guy

[forest breach]

I really hope we do, hopefully tomorrow even

[pine sedge]

I've been wanting a proper commissar outfit instead of the Turd Fergeson jacket, so I hope so too

[winter dock]

If I go to operative menu, it doesn't allow me to change the marks of my weapons

[pine sedge]

I would have also been happy with a krieg marshall outfit, but either works lol

[winter dock]

I understand the shops being down, I havent even tried to open those

but seeing all my weapons at 100 max power and 0 points is concerning

[forest breach]

that set would be proper commissar drip

[winter dock]

Am I going to get softlocked because I can't spend blessing points for having my blessings already unlocked?

[forest breach]

and that eye augment

AHHH

[winter dock]

Also I'm testing out party finder

not sure who I'll find at 5am tho

xd

See I KNEW something was wrong, that ballistafreak guy has all his shit at 500 maxed out

but here I am, blessings unlocked

ZERO mastery

I'm fucked aren't I

I'm gonna get softlocked and never be able to buy or modify my weapons because the game thinks I have them unlocked but I actually don't

[brazen ether]

lmao they broke the plasma gun on the bulwark shield

[winter dock]

but I wont be able to "progress" cuz I have the blessings unlocked and wont be able to spend the points

[pseudo fiber]

If your mastery progress is 0 close the menu and reopen if that doesn't work restart

Don't stress too much about lost progress while the servers are like... this

[winter dock]

Already did both of those

[slate hawk]

In what way if I may ask?

[winter dock]

ill try playing a match to see if maybe it corrects itself once I gain some mastery

[lime gyro]

best perks for Cadia Mk IV chainsword?

[pseudo fiber]

Savage sweep rampage

[brazen ether]

It does miniscule damage and no stun

[slate hawk]

Huh

[solemn pelican]

Better give me the Death Korps

[proud marsh]

My mastery points reset when I close the menu

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

[iron marten]

bruh

[proud marsh]

can't unlock any of the perks I have

bro what

what did you just

[red robin]

uh

[iron marten]

well that explains it

[red robin]

apparently they're initializing it

like maintenance n shit

they'll announce when the server maintenance is done for crafting and other things

[toxic leaf]

my game crashes on entry, is it down or just me

[pseudo fiber]

Do you have fsr on

[toxic leaf]

what does that mean

i had it on

[pseudo fiber]

Some folks are crashing when it's on

[toxic leaf]

i see, lets find out

that fixed it, thanks boss!

[pseudo fiber]

[latent saffron]

Hey gents, is the new mission out yet?

[pseudo fiber]

No

[red robin]

wtf

real?

is that a unlisted change?

[hearty panther]

weakspot ranged kills, right? >.>

[heavy rover]

wait a minute, power sword is getting thrust? That's hilarious

holy, deadshot is gonna go wild

[glad kite]

i have wrath and rampage

@smoky sparrow @golden flint

[smoky sparrow]

so you unlocked like 7 blessings before they froze it

[glad kite]

no i just logged on

but go off

fucking community is filled with salty people

[golden flint]

???

Things are without a doubt broken at the moment, update is still rolling out.

intermittently, some features are working, some arent

[red robin]

damn

skirmisher still mid af

[smoky sparrow]

are you ok

[glad kite]

yet you openly called me a lier

[golden flint]

When

[glad kite]

i dont appreciate that

[red robin]

they did touch skirmishers tick rate

[glad kite]

wait english isnt my first language

need to rephrase

[red robin]

bro dont take urself that seriously

we all have fun here

[golden flint]

lol its all good

[glad kite]

Idk what it is in english

but you said something not true

[smoky sparrow]

it for sure is still not working for me

thats why I said it

i cant even unlock the blessings, but i have all weapons maxed

[glad kite]

i can try add a new blessing

and see if it works

1sec

[golden flint]

It could easily be working for some people and not others, what even is the argument here lol

[smoky sparrow]

that is the argument here

[glad kite]

ok i dont have brutal momentum

[solemn pelican]

Does the vestures store rotate in the next 12 hours?

[glad kite]

oh they got rid of the add a perk thing

womp

[unique orchid]

i am one of the handful that seem to be without my mastery data

[glad kite]

that was a waste of 10k

[golden flint]

thats just called "refine item"
imma leave this chat

[glad kite]

i meant you could remove the blessing

and add it

[red robin]

skirmisher still got that clunky tick rate and the all at once fall off

[glad kite]

they got rid of it

[red robin]

its so fucking over

[misty lance]

only way to lv up a gun is giving weapons to hadron?

[tame lodge]

Playing with them

[misty lance]

i played 2 games and i dont see any progress

[smoky sparrow]

shits whacky af rn

[red robin]

welp

i think ill wait until their server maintanence is done before i do anything

[heavy rover]

i think the patch notes said they're doing a gradual rolout

[red robin]

i dont want to bork any math

[heavy rover]

personally on my end I'll update my game today but wait until like tomorrow or the day after so the gradual rollout finishes

[willow talon]

So everyone has to re-master every weapon from 0? that is brutal

that's gd news

[proud marsh]

So many people loaded into the game it legitimately broke something.

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-pizza-gif-6074641

^ fatshark this morning

[jaunty merlin]

Is this right or something? The power creep is going to be insane if this is legit lmao.

[proud marsh]

It's legit, yeah.

That's how it's supposed to work.

[jaunty merlin]

How the hell are they going to keep this in check then?

[proud marsh]

Uhh...

That's the neat part, they aren't.

[coarse wolf]

gives them room to buff enemies

[glad kite]

I Found the new mission

[coarse wolf]

and add new ones

[jaunty merlin]

Lmao. Challenge is going to be thrown out the window this patch. Rip

[broken spade]

Anyone happen to know the thermal res breakpoints on plasma?

[glad kite]

ill lyk how the new mission is

[pastel yew]

tried the new mission

wow this

awful

I figured it wouldnt be good before hand the design idea is just not a good fit for the game but in play

wow

[sour elbow]

is Falter okay on a lasrifle for maulers and crushers?

[pastel yew]

why would you run falter for maulers or crushers

does it do something different now? or still stagger

[sour elbow]

Still staggers. Logic is when there's just the one bearing down on me to stunlock it. I can do that with the shovel already

[hard cave]

how come?

[pastel yew]

I guess, I think it's probably best to spec into dealing better damage usuall

[pastel yew]

there is

no space

I figured it would be tight, and it's a lil bigger than expected but there's' no space

the new objective is also

awfully

unfun

[sour elbow]

yeah I'm usually running more weakpoint damage

[hard cave]

psyker dome shield gonna go crazy

[pastel yew]

sitting keeping a ball iun the middle of my screen for 30 seconds is not exactly rivetting game play

[toxic leaf]

game is still borked?

[real iron]

update crazy

[toxic leaf]

last i was in, i couldnt disenchant any items

[sour elbow]

and ghost, because it's amazing how useful being able to pop executionor's stance and systematically dismantel a line of gunners is in the open.

[real iron]

i couldn't sacrifice any items

[pastel yew]

ghost is pretty good

[toxic leaf]

i just want to use a heavy sword on vet, is that too much to acks

[real iron]

heavy sword?

[pastel yew]

I would run deadly accurate + headhunter though

[toxic leaf]

from zealot, ea

[real iron]

the eviscerator?

[thin socket]

No

[toxic leaf]

no the heavy sword

[thin socket]

Heavy Sword

[toxic leaf]

literally called heavy sword

[real iron]

ah

i don't know it

i've played vet all my life

no other classes

[thin socket]

Also I can't mastery weapons

shit sucks

[toxic leaf]

diversify yo bonds

[pastel yew]

both new to the vet

[toxic leaf]

well if folks still cant mastery, no point in logging in

[lime gyro]

Now all we need is power sabers

[pastel yew]

bummed out about the new map though ;-;

[glad kite]

ok

[proud marsh]

literally

[glad kite]

train mission is hard

[lime gyro]

I like the new mission tbh

[pastel yew]

yeah its rough

[lime gyro]

Wish it was a little bit longer but me and my friend just ran it in a T4 auric run

Will do Auric Damnation next probably

[pastel yew]

it's just not interesting though

and the new objective is the least fun thing I can immagine

at least with the others you can get them done quick and play the game again

there are no interesting rooms as far as I had seen

I feel like it's literally just spectacle

[feral granite]

So, mastery. Does it improve weapon stats or just blessings?

[pastel yew]

and no substance

[glad kite]

well i guess its not meant to be long

[pastel yew]

afaik you can improve weapon stats if you get enough mastery

[glad kite]

its a train

[lime gyro]

Operations are meant to be shorter missions they stated that

[smoky sparrow]

yeah you are meant to rush the mission

[pastel yew]

short =/= sacrificing game play though

[feral granite]

Aha! I shall be on the game more then

[pastel yew]

the missions were already like 15-20

its not like we were facing biblical tasks

[lime gyro]

Most of my missions always take me 30-40 mins

But I only play on Auric

[tidal rapids]

Train mission is intense alright

[urban steppe]

there was update ? 👀

[feral granite]

Assassination missions 💯

[lime gyro]

I liked the new mission I look forward to more operations

[tidal rapids]

9 mins start to extract with a little leeway

[pastel yew]

yeah I thought the update was meant for the 25th

28th even

bahy

[lime gyro]

It was meant for tomorrow

on the 26th

[glad kite]

more operations when

[urban steppe]

gotcha

[winter dock]

I like the train. Lots of long narrow hallways means cleave guns do work 🙂

[urban steppe]

i ded than , because tomorrow wi be a patch in space marine 2 too . i need a clone to play both ganes in a sametime

[pastel yew]

makes melee aggressively boring though

theres no controlling area

theres just

W

[lime gyro]

The darktide patch is already released

[pastel yew]

idk I felt even before the patch this was a bad idea for a mission

[lime gyro]

It was meant for tomorrow but they released it early

[sour elbow]

I think they wanted some testing (even if it's just server capacity) before launching it

[bronze badger]

did your guys progress transfer over as you expected? i have maxed mastery on some expected weapons but 0 on others. 0 on power sword for example, but max on combat knife which i never used. sure, i may have had combat knife blessings, but i also had some for the power sword. anyone else have this?

[pastel yew]

I have 0 mastery on any weapons

though I do have the blessings

[sour elbow]

No mastery for me. I do have the blessings I expected though

[lime gyro]

I have the masteries but my blessings wont save whenever I do them

So I'm just gonna wait until things are fixed

[proud marsh]

I never used headhunters but got them maxed mastery somehow. I never used shotguns and they're at 0.

[winter dock]

I have 0 mastery on ALL of my weapons, and did NOT get to choose which new blessings to unlock. It just gave me the ones I had before; which is at least not terrible but also not being able to refine or change the marks on my weapons is sucky 😦

[ocean idol]

That seems really good
New: Concentrated Fire
Up to +2-5% Critical Chance on Chained Ranged Weak Spot Hit (Any Target).

[winter dock]

Chargeshot Plasma Gun is so back btw

gets hot+ the new crit chance for charge level

+5% innate crit, but that 5% crit node

85% crit chance

or 90 actually I think 5% is the base chance

[hearty panther]

@formal lake they killed my baby, Vanguard 😦

this is a direct attack against me personally

[winter dock]

First rule of coding is to kill your babies

[urban steppe]

[tame lodge]

Your baby ascended

[winter dock]

Also woohoo! all Veterans got a free extra talent point

we now have the normal 30, instead of only 29

stupid extendo-node on volley

[hearty panther]

weapon swap speed is such a boring mechanic

[pastel yew]

depends on the weapon

[hearty panther]

relevant for like all of eight guns

and zero melee

[pastel yew]

honestly that is a really nice node for the weapons it is relevant for though

[winter dock]

eight guns is a significant amount I'd say

there's also that rightside keystone that centers entirely around weapon swapping

[pastel yew]

even outside of that swap speed is always nice

it also fits weapon specialist a lot more

[sour elbow]

Just did the new train mission. Not sure I like it... the time limit is very stressful. :<

[hearty panther]

yes i cant wait to reduce my shotgun swap speed from 250ms to a whopping 200ms

[willow talon]

What is this, in my limited time acquisition

[hearty panther]

will totally make all the difference

[winter dock]

they expanded the accessibility of certain weapon families

and yes exploits it can and does

[hearty panther]

GIVE ME BACK MY STAM EFFICIENCY

[sour elbow]

can be practical. I usually do the left side but there is a lot of moments where I smack a mauler on their backside with my shovel, swap to my gun and shoot somethiing while he's getting back up.

[ocean idol]

let's hope update did not break any mods

[sour elbow]

I miss being able to just run though. :<

[winter dock]

It did

Alot of them

Weapon customization is a big one

[sour elbow]

That and heavy sword are guardsman weapons.

well, added to them anyway

[placid portal]

ayo wtf 6 gigs update???

[ocean idol]

6 gb of bugs

[placid portal]

50gbs of hidden pasta

[sharp trail]

what difficulty

fun

[hearty panther]

Almost 9K players, neat

[placid portal]

Agripinaa revolvo FINALLY getting cleave buff

[sharp trail]

10 minutes

[placid portal]

hab dreyko 🤢

[hearty panther]

man i really

am very salty about this Vanguard swap out LOL

like way more than i thought

weapon swap speed is incredibly fucking boring

and its not applicable to most weapons in a significant manner

now i actually do have to spend a tax to reach OfB

[tough tiger]

Was the shredder pistol touched at all in this update?

[placid portal]

no

[tough tiger]

Poor little smg

[thorn lark]

i liked the sprint talent...

[ocean idol]

"it is fine"

[hearty panther]

wep swap?

[placid portal]

Forgotten after Columbo kicked the shredda in the can

[hearty panther]

https://tenor.com/view/columbo-gif-20992236

"I did?"

reload talents are def doodoo

idk guess ill run it ingame then

in the Psykhanium outside of some obvious outliers it just does not wow me much

meanwhile vanguard was always relevant

peeps just generally dont appreciate stamina

[winter dock]

Tell me you never use boltgun, shotgun, or revolver without saying that you never use boltgun, shotgun, or revolver

[wanton dawn]

Weapon swap

[pastel yew]

the boss at the end of the train mission just knocked two people off of a ledge

[hearty panther]

revolver has instant draw lmao

[wanton dawn]

Still doodoo though

[hearty panther]

25% off on instant draw, what a fucken bargain

[lucid radish]

Yooo!!?? Weapon specialist Vets rise up?! A weapon speed as the the 1st point of talent?!?!

[pastel yew]

still need a reload talent to use the boltgun with ws and be able to reload

its so sad

[hearty panther]

learn to anim cancel

[wanton dawn]

Weapon spec was already great

[pastel yew]

exec stance not ws

[winter dock]

guaranteed crits with weapon spec go hard

[idle swallow]

I'm at work rn, is the update we're so back or it's joever

[winter dock]

Plasma gun weapon specialist

[hearty panther]

reload speed talents are a tax

[winter dock]

unironically

[pastel yew]

many people bugged, new map is not good

[winter dock]

take the hyper-cooling talents and weapon spec with plasma for mad crits

[pastel yew]

at least the crafting stuff will be okay when it is properly implemented

[idle swallow]

oof

[pastel yew]

no one wants to do the objective

so

you need to do it

and sit on it for ages

[idle swallow]

Oh yeah they said it's a more coop demanding obj

[tough tiger]

Sounds like u need to find good players to play with

[tough flower]

Also at work, sad to hear update is broken, map is meh

[sour elbow]

tbf I'm not sure how much of that is people not aware of the time limit or how strict it is

[wanton dawn]

Its patch day

[tough flower]

True

[pastel yew]

I mean I could but then the game would be too easy

the objective is just poorly designed

no one wants to do it, because it is boring

stop playing the game to do this really tedious busy work for 30 seconds or so per objective

[tough tiger]

It is what it is 🥺

[pastel yew]

I didnt mind the new one that added for the phage tree like

why not just reuse that one than adding another ;-;

there being a boss at the end is fun

but

[fallen plinth]

it's not bad

[pastel yew]

that's the only real positive thing I have to say about train

[tough tiger]

Also they made it so u dont get interrupted while doing objectives right?

[pastel yew]

I think so

[tough tiger]

Before this only ogryn had this niche

[pastel yew]

still lose health though

why though?

like

it's just spectacle no substance

the game being that boxed in removes a lot of the fun imo

[hearty panther]

do you know what 40K is

[pastel yew]

spectacle and substance?

[hearty panther]

pure 40K

[fallen plinth]

it's basically a roller coaster but at the county fair

[sour elbow]

tbf they said it was designed to be a quick map. I'm not sure how I feel about it or the time limit yet, I wanna give it a few more goes before I do anything.

[pastel yew]

most accurate way to describe it

the time limit isn't tremendously punishing but

if your team make a major mistake that seens to be enough to screw you

the missions we had already werent all that long though

15-20 minutes

[hearty panther]

then youre only out a few minutes

[idle swallow]

Train blitz sounds fun as long as the mission is short enough to not drag

[midnight totem]

Country fair is nice though, good food, pretty girls next door

[hearty panther]

10 minutes

[idle swallow]

That's reasonable

[hearty panther]

oh maybe it does vary by difficulty

besides its a train and trains are awesome

[pastel yew]

the idea for the mission visually is S tier

mechanically it just plays poorly

[hearty panther]

now if youll excuse me i need to build a shrine in memory of Vanguard

[midnight totem]

Same

[pastel yew]

the difficulty is definitely a lot higher on this map which is cool but

ehh

it never really felt like I was responding to any complex situation because of how boxed in it was though

it was just

long line

I mean it's going to be literally impossible to solo without bots, even with them it might not be possible

outside of the objectives though doing them without players would be more fun

people split quite heavily

[idle swallow]

Is it synchronized button pushes or something

[pastel yew]

not everyone understands to keep pace quite yet

[pastel yew]

the new objective?

[idle swallow]

Yea

[pastel yew]

its holding a circle in the middle of another circle

except its always drifting away

its very easy, and it locks you in position for a solid chunk of time

[wanton dawn]

Imagine not having time to sniff around for all the plasteel of the map

[pastel yew]

oh yeah the loot is pretty clearly visible as you go along

there's no much room for anything

[wanton dawn]

Guess i'll see this we when back home

[pastel yew]

I feel more could have been done with the concept

40k train

give it multiple floors consistently

and shit you need to do

[midnight totem]

Double decker train

[wanton dawn]

Also reminder that top diff should be difficult

[pastel yew]

true

but it shouldnt be lopsided based on maps

[willow talon]

most things are very straightforward, so there is not much place to wander around except there are up/lower decks for 1-2 cargo.

[pastel yew]

I think with a good team the new mission would'nt be all that challenging

but having to run back

revive someone who has no sit awareness

go back to objective

do both objectives on your own

with randos this is not a good one

[wanton dawn]

Well, now speedrunners wilm be the one to scream at slowpoke

[pastel yew]

speedrunners will be playing this map correctly honestly

[wanton dawn]

Like the circle of life but reverse

[midnight totem]

Good. How the turntables turn

[pastel yew]

you turn around and see people just not moving at all

I do think that the random difficulties will lessen as people figure out "oh I have to move"

[wanton dawn]

Thats mostly cuz i go with the flow

[toxic leaf]

anyone who got fixed itemization and not maintenance rank 0, have yall messed with the heavy sword?

im very hype to try it on vet

[pastel yew]

I imagine it will feel very similar to zealot just

less speedy

[wanton dawn]

In fact i became a speedy dude cuz of ya

[toxic leaf]

vet has a lot more damage on the tree than zealot

[willow talon]

a map like this might bring meanings to some weapons that are not favorable in traditional mission

[toxic leaf]

its only shortcoming was armour and vet can deal with it

[pastel yew]

I mean

[wanton dawn]

Oh well, cant wait to try new 40% swap buffed bolter

[pastel yew]

vet wont be hard forced

to take a boltgun or zarona

but zealot already meets the one shot break points on loads of enemies

it's just carapace that's the struggle

[fast cargo]

Just finished reading patch, Plas is still king?

[toxic leaf]

vet has more damage, and has kraks

[pastel yew]

vet will have way better boss damage though

vet could have 100000000000x the damage, one shotting a gunner is one shotting a gunner

[fast cargo]

Columnus aside

[toxic leaf]

and has some rending on the tree for armor

dunno if thats acutally good though thats what i wanted to see

[pastel yew]

like the main difference will probably be on ragers

[toxic leaf]

if i needed to spank a mauler, how many spanks to to get to the center of his head

[pastel yew]

vet might be able to one tap the light ragers if I had to guess

which zealot needs the dash for

mhm though who runs zealot without fury

[toxic leaf]

all of that and vet still gets an auto loading zarona from WS

[pastel yew]

its so much more fun than the other two

still wondering whether its ws or the zarona that gets hit hard by the nerf bat

[toxic leaf]

its voc first

[wanton dawn]

Voc and recon, (it is tradition)

[pseudo fiber]

Do you mean the shotgun or the revolver huehuehue

But yes revolver before ws

[pastel yew]

can vet one tap the armored ragers?

with the hs

[pastel yew]

zarona shotgun?

how like

is that a thing am I tripping

[pseudo fiber]

The lawbringer is now the zarona

[pastel yew]

why...

[wanton dawn]

Coolness debuff

[pseudo fiber]

They renamed a whole bunch of weapons!

[toxic leaf]

yea how do you nerf zarona though, if it doesnt penetrate, gun is useless and if it cant one shot specialists, its trash

[pastel yew]

WHHHHHHHY

;-;

[pastel yew]

I think the zarona is fine

its weapon specialist that's the problem

it removes all of the weapons weaknesses

[toxic leaf]

the auto loading makes it SSS tier

yea

[pastel yew]

so it's just all strength

on both psyker and zealot the revolver is fine

[placid portal]

new mission do be extremely tight in time?

[pastel yew]

it's exclusively a vet issue, as with most things vet just does it better

[toxic leaf]

vet does it better and actually has a tree with choices

[pastel yew]

vet tree has

the worst for skill sinks though

[toxic leaf]

vs every zealot build taking the same nodes

[thick rose]

what gun?

[pseudo fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1288450383034843188/image.png?ex=66f53a6d&is=66f3e8ed&hm=9c52d57c46accc5a36d47f16874dfed25e7f54bb7982105af7eb8cac83f10c8e&

[pastel yew]

oh true I forgot gun psyker got buffed

[pastel yew]

WHAT THE FUCK

THIS

IS