#veteran-class
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What Mk is the best Accatran Lasgun, I am aware they are ASS compared to other guns but I wanna have fun with vet. Im tired of Zelot and Psyker after almost 2k levels lol
The best one is 7a
However
You can go ham with the 6d
On a proper build
The Mk2 has the best ammo economy though
Best is subjective to what you're looking for.
The mk7 is very ammo hungry, so you basically have to use shock trooper for good ammo economy.
Who told u that Recons are bad?
And also, yeah, recons are NOT bad.
Literally just hipfire and shoot lmfao
They recently got a buff and they're really good now.
Columnus still sweeps, but it's columnus, you can't really beat that.
Anywho, for the mk7, shock trooper is basically required, for the mk6, onslaught is basically required, and the mk2 is alright without either of those talents.
The mk6 is capable of killing like 5 crushers in one mag if you're dumping their faces.
SPIT YOUR FUCKING SHIT SMUDGELS 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
I will die on the hill of using the Heavy Sword on Veteran
perfect strike and chained deathblow with serrated blade and exploit weakness 
Its funny you say this cause this is probably a joke build but it would absolutely still kill a lot of things
cause its the fucking Heavy Sword
lmao
The serrated blade choice is weird
Hsword will go hard on weapon spec builds in place of things like chainswords.
with perfect strike i will put 1 (one) bleed on everything 
I think it'll just go hard just, picking up weak point damage frankly 
Figured 
mk 6 knife but combos are kinda just like pa heavy, if you combine it with the hacker shotgun and weapon specialist you become a close range killing machine you can do (pa heavy loop ) and shoot whenever you want
Honestly if Rending Strikes makes it damage jump noticeably on Crushers and Maulers, Im probably going to do IX with HT + DB
i read headtaker and double barrel lol
Headtaker deathblow (bromentum).
yeah i realized that after a second
If not I might do Bladed Momentum?
I'm going to be doing a lot of testing when UnL drops with Vet HS's
Okay I'm curious if they have any plans on adding more weapons by the end of the year I'm still praying for a fully fledged sniper 
Possibly
they tend to just go
Surprise
here's new weapons
and then fuck off into silence
so we can only hope
I mean sometimes you have advantage to use it
But it's mainly for fun
when the fuck will they add it
The "sometimes" is the problem 💀
Like the sniper in Space Marine 2 is so fun I love blowin bugs heads off
Well the good news is weapon customization exists so we'd prolly be able to ironsight it then I'd just be running around makin a faze montage 
get that long las scope so i can see every pore before blast hot las all over them
Tbh tho I'm still holding out hope for an LMG or sumn adjacent to the miniguns that enemy gunners use
I just want a spin up BRRRRRRRR machine to mag dump into a horde
Cause it's funny and cool looking
Yeah stubber for vet and I will do things that make the horus heresy look like a trip to the daycare
everyone wants stubber or somesuch...i want a multilaser
You're gonna blast your hot las?

If it burns you should go to the doctor
did I do this right?
is this for all kills or just melee kills?
All
melee is 10% now with it
ty 
I would go elite over flak
Because I don't believe flak gives u any breakpoints 🤔, I might be wrong tho
in space marines 2 you gotta run and gun more
Rough
wittle them down first then melee
flak + maniac covers a lot of ground
shhh don't tell anybody
I gotta bust out the plasma gun meta build to have a chance to solo queue nowadays
🏃🏻♂️
auric?
Can’t just hop in maelstrom with a trusty rifle I’ll be the last one left and have no gg ez button to use
Yes
Pubs playing pvp with u 😔
Anything I should change?
woah
nice one
think it's good to go
maybe stat spread ain't good
but that's a good one
If anyone wants to play I’m down mostly on weekends
I like playing with the lasgun but man it’s not op compared to other veteran options
Yea, Wish it had max finesse instead of mobility
if ya want, find a minimum mobility in brunt
I would go maniac, flak, or elite
i did that today
then grind it up with the itemisation (in a week) and make it a minmax
Maniac is important because u need to one-shot the ranger and mutants even when light attacking
doesn't push stab kick you out of powered
Its why I opted with carapace to clear the hordes of crushers
you need to combo to proc power cycler right
Sure but what about a situation where u are attacking a mixed horde?
dodge and repeat
The push usually takes care of the horde tho?
mix in a heavy attack now and then
my power sword and build can kill any rager on a crit heavy headshot
Not sure though, ones mid charge heavy controls ragers as long as you have it charged
I might try maniac on the new update, see if it does better
So for carapace u should be push stabbing. But for maniacs u don't need to because they don't have armor
yea exactly, a heavy swing just staggers them in the horde
push stabbing a charging mutant does one shot it tho
even without maniac damage
Yeah but what I'm saying is that the breakpoint is for regular lights
hmmm isee
U can one-shot a ranger in the head even in a horde if you have BM and maniac
do the laspistols get good mileage from marksman focus or nah
Whats marksman focus again
Oh right the keystone
Really depends on how often youre hitting heads, same for most weapons
Am I going crazy or is the icon for these 2 shovels different
They're the exact same shovel, but their icon looks different
What icon?
The actual image of the shovel
No they look the same to me
I swear to god they look slightly different
Do u have the weapon customization mod?
I don't
It's probably due to the way you screenshot them.
You’re going crazy
There is difference just above where the rubber handle ends
Booting up darktide after months of break for a damnation run.
Teammates wipe out on the first wave of a defend auspex segment, like all 3 of them died in the same place, 
Clutching that one was fun
Bad dodges and one blessing slot is consumed by Power Cycler 4
But is a very powerful Melee when used well Paired with a high mobility range weapon to counter its bad mobility
Also has poor horde clear from my understanding
Thats BruMo though
They're alright with slaughterer
Granted I use a quadrillion melee buffs
Because I'm BASED
I mostly look at a weapon at its base without buffs or blessings
Fair
Speaking of slaughterer, that and wrath on my chainsword goes pretty hard
Spam heavies into crowds, jobs a goodun 
Oh whats the hit 3 get bonus damage one
That not slaughter?
Ah
Hell does shred do again
sometimes one of them will have slightly different lighting in the weapon selection menu for no reason
nerf vet immediately
vet should not have so much damage
publicly violate vet players
freak
I prefer the "buff underperforming" approach instead of nerf overperforming
Verbally abuse VoC users
Exceptions naturally arise though
Fuck buffing, I don't want everyone one-shotting crushers
The krak grenade in question
5% demo team:
WOOOO FREE KRAK
Me getting a free revive every minute while the zealot fights the ogryn to get some wacky situational item
That's a felony 
Yes
I understand, but sometimes the easy option isnt the best
Though i agree vet may be a bit overtuned
All the p13 “nerfs” are power crept out of existence
the problem is everything is decent right now (except autopistol) the current problem with the game balance is that weapons like plasma, revolver, rashad, powersword
DS4
all exist
(and thunder hammer is also pretty rough rn but the buffs will make it good)
that's mostly only done for community sentiment and isn't a good long term solution
Aye fair, they really did make most things usable (rip autopistol packwatch bozo)
fact is if you just power creep your game, you are making the lower tier weapons that don't get proper buffs worse, making the game easier until enemies get buffed which is just a nerf to the players indirectly, and you can't feasibly buff everything to the same power as the top tier weapons
The auto pistol is usable but everything else has been power crept
That is true, I keep thinking this is a... hell what was the game again? They just kept nerfing stuff and made the game horrible
It wasnt helldivers but they did do that yeah
I continue to mistake it for a situation like that
Darktide needs a large scope balancing pass
oh god
console FOV is so bad lmfao
yea
trauma + skullcrusher can be fun tbh
Will try with the Crusher later
And yeah I like my FoV close 💀
Let's just say that I played Minecraft with the max Fov stuff and got sick
Yeah?
Bro wouldnt last a minute in a quake 3 lobby
Behead veteran, roundhouse kick veterans into the concrete
A lot of weapons though are extremely fucking powerful that Veteran has
True
I don't get it
One day I'll develop a #truFOV technology
Enough of that stretched-ass bullshit
I will achieve 120° without warping
which shock maul is better in moveset?
mk 3 probably
it's bonkers with weapons specialist
I dont think its necessarily that hard, if the default FOV was 120 is any game there wouldnt be any warping as the models and environment and such would be designed for it
There might also be a reason 120 fov isnt common, normally games render what you are looking at and ignore most of the surrounding environs, its a strange trick but saves a lot of frames
Darktide does that rendering trick yeah
I dont think theres any game that doesnt
Its just a basic part of the graphics pipeline nowadays
aka optimization 
What is the veteran boss kill gun
Occlusion culling ☝️ 
Right
Right
Left
I don't really know
@manic cloak
If you build for a very specific set of skills, developed over a long career of being a reject
It's 12 o'clock
Yea
I just noticed theres a bolt pistol and double barrel shotgun now, any advice on how to build them?
But it's recoil is long
Oh and in case you don't have the boss killer weapon, red stimming the gungryn works
Boltpistol grenadier build
DB shotgun go for melee weapon swap
oh I meant more, what blessings am I hunting for, ty for that too tho!
For boltpistol
Lethal proximity + Run&gun
Maniac + elite
red stim also buffs bullets?
And damage over time since it grants 25% power and rending
holy, i shall horde reds with my gungryn
Idk why they made melee so ass in a space marine game 
Bolt pistol is just fun to use with the bash shoot combo
first steam game Ive ever refunded, it made me redownload darktide after 8 months away though
I bought it, did the campaign, had a bit of fun, then realised the multi player really isn't great. Fired up Darktide after 18 months lol 😄
Is it that bad lol? It looks very casual compared to Darktide and I haven’t played it but it sounds like I should get a refund?
it looked like it'd be fun, but the controls were unforgiveably bad
I don’t really have an interest in playing something that seems so much more shallow than Darktide
If you like 40k, the campaign does a nice job of making you feel like a Space Marine, and it looks pretty. However I always felt disconnected. Disconnnected from the shooting, disconnected from the melee...
Same how I enjoyed all the Gears of Wars games...but I never really felt like I enjoyed the combat.
Yeah idk I’ve never been a fan of the space marines so idk
Same how everything about Witcher 3 is amazing but the combat aint' great..
Witcher makes up for it's iffy combat in ways nothingn else ever could though 🤣
I don't want to put you off, but if you're not a fan....then it's an expensive 8 hour campaign...
Lmaooo it’s only 8 hours???
I'm going to revisit it in a few months, see what they do.
mmmmhmmm
I’ve also heard the top tier of multiplayer consists of spawn killing with grenades
So idk if that’s something worth investing time in rn
PvP is terrible IMHO
PvE is okay..
But there isn't the variety in the loops.
There's little quirks, like you can't defend yourself from certain attacks due to the timings and stuff..
pvp is fun for a few rounds
They have a lot of 'feel' stuff to work out
trying to melee in pvp is lol, lmao
Agreed. 😄
i picked heavy and top scored as a level1 
Yikes lol
That said Veteran rejects!!! I've had 18 months off and put in a good 10 hours back in the last couple of days. I used to run Damnation without too much trouble, but now I'm battling with Heresy...finding myself cut off and overwhelmed by mobs. What do I need to work on?
And how is the leveling/build creation in SM2 compared to DT?
I’ve heard that’s more shallow too but idk
😬
ok not zero but its really really limited
Not fun man
It's very minimal
your weapon choices are like, 2-3 per class
It doesn't make a difference at this point.
and melta owns everything so lol build variety
Probably getting reaccustomed to dodging and blocking and the rhythm of melee combat. That's 95% of doing well in this game, the other 5% is target priority
Yeah, it's mostly dealing with mobs, finding that sometimes my team is happy to let me get murdered by shooters while I'm fighting off a mob lol
although the jetpack thunderhammer class is cool, but its also one of the weakest class (to level) because all the strongest talents are locked at the back because !!
If you struggle with hordes maybe bring shredder frags, they can easily chew through horses with bleed and you don’t need to get the upgraded nades for them to be good
It get's old though, way too quickly...fly up, slam down
you need to respect shooters in this game, positioning and sightlines are important
I don't struggle when there isn't too much other stuff going on. 😄
if you are being accosted by ranged and melee at the same time its kinda over no matter how good you are
I'm still finding myself the most efficient shooter killer in most random squads, usually dealing with most of the specialists quicky by myself, and even some of the elites.
You always get audio queues, one for when someone is swinging at you, another for when someone is shooting at you. Dodge melees, slide ranged, and stick to cover and position yourself so you're not caught out in the open
Ahh yeah but stealth + 2 underhanded shredder frags is a great get out of jail free card
No matter what u face
yea try to run into cover then kill the melees, pop out and kill the ranged
Yeah that's it then, if I'm not getting any support while I'm mobbed and being shot at from afar, it's all over
Yeah so many people just dive deeper when they get stressed, fall back and recoup when you need to
diving is extra scary in this game because horde spawns are tied to map progression
Yeah, staying on the outside of the mob is always my play.
you dive in a bad situation and spawn a boss/horde lol
That too, but I meant on the map. Dont dive ahead further up the map, fall back into a cleared area
Oh gosh no, gotta stick together, but then...there is always one 😄
Shit still spawns behind you but not as much as what spawns ahead
let them die 
This game is top tier with a good team, and grim with a bad one 🤣
yea sometimes theres wandering patrols behind too
That is another great survival skill to learn, when to dive for the res and when to let them die, clear safely, and go rescue them later
grenade res is usually very safe when theres only melee
also note that you can use their prone body as a shield vs shooters
works better if you are ressing an ogryn
If someone dies doing something dumb (like diving) and are caught in a bad spot, trying to res them is just guaranteeing a wipe, instead of just letting them die and dealing with a man down for a bit but doing it smart
Yeah, fair. That makes a lot of sense.
Just getting to grips with the new tree, builds are so different now.
I'm enjoying a shotgun / chainax with VoC build right now
Not sure how a shotgun has any business being useful at the distances it is sometimes, but it's a fun build
yeah the agri shotty special is just a single action sniper rifle lol
with an oh shit option built in
agripinna shotty has the tightest spread with the normal rounds
Ideal powersword blessings? I know power cycler is a given but should I run sunder or rampage
with ADS you can easily kill gunners in 1 tap from 10/15m away
sunder or brutal momentum
I'm actually running the Kant IX , but I need to rotate
the slugs are mainly used to open bulwarks shields
sunder stops you getting caught on armor (bulwarks) in mixed hordes, BM ups your cleave and clear time by a lot
It's the stagger that's doing it for me with the shotties
yea stagger is really good vs ragers
Everything, dogs, everything
i used to run kantshotty/knife on my vet before double barrel
Hey, a 4 vet auric maelstrom, this should go well
holy fuck
it took me a handful of hours
but i finally got darktide at 120 fps through the level and 90 fps in hordes
i sure hope the next patch doesn't ruin everything
🙂
kms
got sick of cpu bottleneck so i overclocked my cpu
and did a million things to have my gpu do some work it was idle on
process lasso is nutty
nvidia low latency my beloved
no more input delay
all there is to complain about now is servers
and your power bill
backwards slide from 80% dodge and Weapon specialist for 25% dodge range into hot swapping the double barrel for a action movie attack
shrug
what's the point of a gaming pc if I ain't gonna get good fps
doesn't help that the penance is designed stupidly and encourages crabwalking with melee
When at 10 or more stacks of marksman's focus, activate executioner's stance and get 5 headshot kills on ogryns
Repeat 250 times
With much love,
Fatshark
I always think someone is typing
crabbing with a 20 mobility sword for maximum frustration
Agripinaa revolver is so fun
do the funny Marksman's Focus + Lawbringer Shotgun meme
Manstopper Scattershot
evaporate hordes
what mod sho elits spawn names?
do you mean this one
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/274
Yeah. For the drip is the best thing I could've added to this game while I wait for the mechanicus class thet I know would never be added
@clever ferry

My soul is going to leave my body if I queue again and find another Smiteker allergic to using their melee
you have a soul?
I do
What did I do to you?
Too much meat and flesh
I emulate the God Emperor with my human aspect.
+++ correction. It is impossible to emulate something without the assistance of a machine spirit +++
You must first upgrade yourself
As a cat I had 9 souls!
That's a lot.
I know fast and painless procedures. Rest assured
Sounds like the average zealot in my team. Too bad his build requires him to go down

Can you bring Cadia back?
Do that first, then we talk.
I recently finished Signalis and just wanted some after work Shotgun time in Darktide 😩
but the creatures truly come out into quickplay at this hour
Stress free heretic destruction
Unless there was some important artifacts or technology within the planet. I have no reason to waste time calculating a possible solution
No significant tech that I am aware of, simply the bones of heroes and echoes of the human spirit.
cadiez nuts
The fall of cadia was inevitable due to their fleshiness and lack of faith within the omnissiah.
You're lucky you kill heretics good.
everything has its price
+++Binary screech+++
Oh you're not going to like me once the update drops

There'll be plenty of psykers trying out the new melee stuff
But I'll be smiting

A taste of their own poison
ahem
Just kidding, I'll be probably Scrier's Gazing around
scrier's glaze 😩
Sorry, didn't catch that.
+++Binary Rumbling+++
I do not need to explain the blessings of the machine spirit to the likes of you.
A fair point, it was likely unimportant anyway
"most peaceful and respectful conversation in the imperium'
I have been called polite for a guardsman
absolute unit next to you lmao
hey
i did a build but i don't know where to spend the 2 last points
if someone have an idea
i was thinking of thinkerer
Not an Ogryn
Switch 8 stacks FT to the toughness and stamina regen node
Grab field improv
stamina regen node yes you get it
dont know why people dont like picking it
And grab a stamina regen delay node ig
I can't even open it cuz there was a blackout in my city and I am using mobile internet to shit post until my battery dies
8 stacks to regen stamina node ??
8 stacks doesn’t do much
Only really becomes relevant on monsters
If you want to spend two points on keystone nodes then it’s redirect fire and the other one, not 8 stacks
it's just the grenade thing that is useful
The corruption clear and regen speed increase on medkits is very nice to have
If you run base wounds (like you should) being able to get about 25% of your max ho back is nice
It's mandatory in auric
And it’s reusable if schenanigans (poxbursters) happen
i dont get the point of dying
use med stim, med station?
There's not a lot of team wide buffs in the game. So you take any that you can
Because they deal like 25% corruption
You will feel the difference
i mean i've always played without so idk if it will be a game changer
Also. Can you imagine how broken it'd be if you could have 1 toughness as max toughness?
payday 2 anarchist gameplay
Anarchist at least has the grace period on their side
1 max toughness would die to like 3 shooters
Often times it is.
The small things changes the big picture more often than not.
My favorite perk deck is and will always be sicário. Fucking thing carried me hard through death sentence
One hit = no health bleed. And every time you get any source of tough would mean your bled protect is full.
So as long as it's regenerating your are not getting any DMG
Small issue
Any shooter ever
They fire in bursts
And the second and third rounds hit straight to hp
You would also get stunned by everything ever
I mean there are sources of passive reven

And you imply that your tough doesn't already get insta depleted on auric once you get shot
Dude my internet is getting worse by the minute wtf is the world ending ?
I typed this message almost 5 minutes ago and it just now sent
Yeah but my toughness doesn’t evaporate to a single scab shooter
It takes a fair hit
But I don’t lose literally all of it and then take 2 hits straight to hp
The only way to test is go give me 1 tough
Id be a willing test subject

for the last point a stamina delay ig ?
Check the small nodes
There are some really big ones
Like the one that shares part of your current tough Regen to your team
born leader
That’s only instantaneous regen or something though
since i like to play with 3 toughness curios that's good right ?
Funny enough I like health curios
Nope, only works with non-coherency regen
And 15% of your kill toughness is like nothing
You’d need gloryhunter on something for it to be worth it
I find having low tough overall better and easier thanks to my constant Regen it keeps my tough almost always capped since it's not a lot
Conversely Target Down! Is 5% toughness per FT stack
Seems high risk
And you apply a minimum of 2 stacks of FT iirc
Kindaish? Basically as long as I am killing elites. My team and my tough are usually capped
Also depends on their positioning too... Among other variables
All toughness regen is percentile
But Auric's are easy so that's that
I don’t think there’s a single source of flat tough regen in the entire game
yeah if you kill the target ~1 sec after tagging, you’re set to 2
100 fills just as fast as 200
Not all sources are percentages
Which aren’t
Spamming VoC keeps my toughness maxed out but it feels like cheating
if you have 4 vet and every vet has this talent, does it mean everybody gets 4x more thoughness 🤔
so what point stamina regen delay is the best no ?
Should clarify what I meant. Yes all sources are percentages as stated in game. However you can clearly see a difference in speed in Regen.
While what you say is theorically correct. My experience is either placebo or you are correct and I am wrong.
or longshot since i use plasma gun
No
You share a fraction of the Regen
I mean more thoughness regen, not more thoughness
go ahead
but it would be mutliplicative with any thoughness regen you have on your curios, and with confirmed kill giving you thoughness over time you would get uber regen
It’s only 15% though
Theorically yes. Albeit I don't like having multiple vets in a squad. It means less ammo for me plasma
Confirmed kill is 2% tough per second
So everyone else is getting .3% toughness per second per confirmed kill stack
It would take 5 and half minutes to get to full off of that
not too bad, base regen is 1 flat thoughness per second but the 15% gets rounded up to 1, so basically everybody gets 4 thoughness per second + 1.2% (assuming everyone has confirmed kill active)
You don't usually only get one kill yknow
Yeah but still
Im new to the game and started played a couple days ago. To me it seems veteran is pretty useless compared to psyker ad ogryn. Im trying to shoot things but the Ogryn and Psyker kill everything faster. No much point to melee if theres a zelot on the team cause they will charge in and clear a horde
1%
That’s glacial
Stuff steps up the higher you go, vet is a very powerful class and holds the most versatility between melee and ranged
nah
there is only one proper way to test this. let's start a mission with 4 vets and see how much we can regen
best we get is a dirch
+++femboys+++
Can I get a lasgun stuck in the dirt as a grave marker?
Damn it
ahh ok i hope so
I can consistently outscore teams with a knife and shotgun
look on the bright side: at least you aren’t in brazil
Vet is not weak by any measure
Vet is like the Zealot but sane.
Vet is reverse zealot
What the hell is Brazil?
Instead of crafting a build around your melee and grabbing a gun to complement its crafting a build around your gun and grabbing a melee to cover it
a death world, pray you’re never deployed there
Well maybe I'll request it next. What do you think about that?
it’s your funeral
I been liking the assualt hotgun
First: spelling, second: what variant
Actually Nevermind I am going to pass the fuck out
Byeeeeeeee
based
Based indeed
thoughts?
Good, but don't rely on it to kill anything with special attacks.
Yeah
tfw you have lost a run at the endgame because you rev'd your (eviscerator) chainsword to kill a mutie and a sniper blasts you in the animation lock
its happened to me more than i would like to admit and why i dont use those chain weapons anymore
Didn't they remove the anim locks on chain weapons a while ago
Because it was impossible to hit crushers without them immediately overheading you
Ngl that does not sound like the eviscerators fault
Stealth cancels you out now too, even if you stealth as you start prepping the swing which is really fucking annoying
So unless you use your stealth super early you'll instantly stop reving into the enemy you just hit
Sucks that the only way to get the chain specials to work is to have an ability that staggers ready
You just have to consider when it's feasible to do
whats the dump stat for the helbore lasguns?
i didnt blame the eviscerator, i said thats why i dont use them anymore
Stability.
You're gonna wanna be charging every shot so recoil is irrelevant.
I would highly recommend running suppression immunity with it, though.
Ammo
Stability
NOT ammo.
You want as much ammo as humanly possible without sacrificing damage stats.
Stability is your first dump, then ammo.
well I got this. Ill just wait for new update to upgrade this
How good is this ? do I just swap perks and it's a monster or are the blessings wrong too ?
one more to fricking go
Volatile > Blaze Away
Reload Speed > Unyielding
Stats arent best
Stats arent best for costing melk bucks tht is
Thermal resist bit low
use weapons with a critical modifier like revolvers or axes

volatile sounds
so uncomfortable to use
since your charge would be at different speeds constantly
Perks kinda hurt but
Change reload speed to +Elites
Volatile to glory hunter
Blaze away doesn't give all that much damage but it isn't that bad
But you don't want +unyielding
You want to meet the gunner breakpoint
Dredge gunner specifically
Meaning you wanna be able to one tap dredge gunners
Unyielding is funny for boss damage, but otherwise not necessary. The big kicker here is like Smudgels said, gotta 1tap gunners.
Blaze away helps in the situation where the director says "Woe, 30 dreg ragers be upon ye."
Otherwise, also not very necessary.
Well, actually, I'm also wrong on that, because blaze away helps for boss damage, too.
Mag dumping a boss in the head is a great utilization for plasma. (though there are better ranged choices for boss damage)
I got a plasma with 1% dmg
Those are always funny to grab.
Don't dreg gunner have flak on chest ? +flak on perk would make it easy ti reach ?
normal people use headshots
You do headshots to get the 1 hit bp
Also in theory +Elites would also damage them even on a body shot
Where +flak wouldn't change damage on a headshot
yeah but elite is +10% while Flak is +25
Cause dredge gunner head is unarmoured
Without headshot modifier
So it's +25% flak on a body shot no damage modifier
Vs +10 elite on unarmoured with a headshot modifer
Oh
Also +30% weakpoint damage because of the weakpoint damage talent
In your vet tree
So its
+10% elite, +30% weakpoint damage, + headshot modifier
On unarmoured
According to Lantern they don't have a head multiplier, is that wrong ? I know you have Precision Strikes for headshots
Lol wdym
"head
Unarmoured
ranged: 1x" https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies/dreg-gunner
That’s not where you look xd
that’s for enemy specific modifiers like mutants taking extra melee damage
Oh ok, also I forgot the attack breakdown in the game shows damage for weakpoint I'm a dumbass lol
In anycase flak isn't that useful
When is that new update coming?
If I left Volatile on, should it be +elites and + carapace then ?
Hhhh yeah you can
Maniac is good regardless
But I personally think volatile is bad
And glory hunter is bettah

Completed with Veteran 
Proud of you boykisser
Got some grinding to do Dorn
My friend had 3500 hours in........||Pathfinder,|| for gods sake. That's a lot of content.
Better hit 4k+ by the end of this year
I can't remember a single normal game(not a multiplayer one), which i played for 1000+ hours, apart from Front Mission 3 on PS One back in 2001
in that one i got around 2000 hours worth+
Ah, Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 and W40k Dawn of War
these are probably both at 10k+ hours
C&C is more like 50k+ hours if we count all games in the series
rip my favorite strategy series
this is what i meant by small node.
this is worth 1 point over something else ?
Does anyone else miss that month where they added talent trees but didn't give vets capstone abilities yet? Unironically think it might have been the best state the class was ever in 😅
terrible node tbh
Yes, if you are building arround your team and not yourself.
idc about team
if every player is decent dosen't need team oriented build
i rely on myself not other in this game haha
The average players rarely are decent. which is why i often build arround making sure the team stays up.
im still mad over the survivalist nerf, however it was an understandable change.
This is the worst node in the entire game and is never worth spending a point on
At best you get 0.9 more toughness per second when in full coherency with your team
It’s genuinely so laughably bad there’s never any reason to take it
thats good for me.

what would u pick from this ?
with the 2 point left
( i switched focused fire for target down )
Competitiver urge in auric procs very often and helps with treshholds
Bring it down is often overkill, as you need to check if your treshholds is already hit killing at full charge. or uncharged shots
Bring it down is good
Grenade tinker is good with frags I believe
Competitive urge is very situational
hes using a plasma rifle.
he needs to play arround the game treshhold.
You don’t need to full charge plasma in the current state of the game
20% dmg increase will change absolutely nothing if it still takes two shots to the head with or without it
Plasma’s best use condition is uncharged 1 shot flamer/trapper/gunner/shotgunner
You don’t need to use charged shot whatsoever
which is why he has to test his treshholds and to see if it is contributing to the dmg of his build or not.
It contributes to his overall damage including his chainsword which is fine
XD
already took bring it down so still left 2 point
i have thinking of thinker
tinkerer*
Marksman & stamina regen delay not bad choices
as alikat said
Marksman is multiplicative to +damage so u end up with even higher numbers
@low pagoda then i have two questions for you.
- Does the reload speed of the plasma bothers you in anyway?
nah idc
ok
- do you have any trouble with hordes ?
using chainsword so no
then i'd probably just grab quality of life ones.
this is one
stacks with the ones you already have
Stamina regen delay is usually better than this one
Yes this too. stamina regen is very important
Would drop rending strikes
Don’t think rending strikes changes anything for chainsword Mk13g
And it doesn’t do much for plasma
Rending is a very weapon-dependant talent
im looking foward to test the blessing that plasma loses heat on crit. and to see if it will allow a more spammy playstyle
okay thanks everyonne
Omnissiah Protects
I feel like I've lost my mechanics in my time away from the game, if I don't want to interact with melee in a more complex way than spamming light attacks what's the best weapon pick for just doing some left clicking
Combat axe
Wait 10d for update then craft a perfect Rashad mk2
just grab a shovel or a powersword
It’s super hard to roll rn unfortunately
Alright I'll try axe and shovel, never managed to roll a nice p sword
Yeah crafting is pain, took me a few hundred thousand to get this, and its still not the best. cant wait for the update
i just wish they'd rework the powersword. again. 
It’s in a fine spot rn
Top 5~6 veteran melee but it requires the least amount of talent investment so it’s go-to for a lot of builds
i kinda just dont like how reliant it is on spesific blessings.
sm 2 kinda did a better powersword in my humble opinion. giving two stances, a fast unpowered one and the slower yet stronger powered one. without the need having to activate every few hits
we have dammaged powerswords
trust trust
the artisan is doing something junky with it
That’s most weapons though
At least next patch gives some more options
Elite
me using rashad without bm
are all non poxwalker emenies considered elite?
I’m so ready for the update
gonna keep on powersword it just feels so much better than knife idk
hoard clear just feels so bad
is my knife bad or is it just a sacrafice hoard clear for mobility thing that makes it so good
It’s a mk3 so yes it’s just gonna be bad at horde clear
Mk6 is better than mk3 in basically every way (besides moveset complexity)
oh thats the one at the bottom didnt see that when I was buying bases to craft
XD
whoops
fleash tearer uncanny still fine tho?
Yea that blessing combo is fine
Flesh tearer is better for zealot
But if you take the appropriate crit talents you CAN take it
was ruinning it with crit but would prefer to have grenades of other blessing is still good without crit talents
It’s fine on veteran
Every other option it’s competing against is also just “fine”
otherset up reposte uncanney?
I think riposte is a better pickup personally
Use mk6
Uncanny + riposte/precog/mercy/flesh/executor
5 options for ur 2nd blessing
U can go with whatever
id prefer to not have the crit talents so ill go uncanny repost I suppose
fleshtearer smackdown with exploit weakness though 
If you are able to take serrated blade
Uncanny mercy killer is the best vet option imo
By a large margin
Serrated + mercy is safe for breakpoints
Except veteran gets reciprocity + desperado which enables executor to hit harder while having the same breakpoints (even starting from 0 stacks)
Vet gets free additional weakpoint damage, desperado, and uncanny let's that weakpoint damage shine through
Only downside is executor is harder to keep vs bosses ig
Executors benefit is just too low even if you can maintain it
As long as you run uncanny you can pick whatever else you want, i prefer flesh tear
especially take uncanny if you run shredder frags since it helps you bleed through armor better
Alright im done nerd reacting how would i 🤓 efficiently 🤓 set up an mg1a ilas
efficiency falter
Headhunter + ghost are my prefered blessings for iLas
i guess you could run DA, but if you're planning to use mg1a then exec stance will push you over most breakpoints without DA
I guess if u give into the bleed meme it could be funny
whats the setup
Lacerate uncanny (on zealot)
I don’t like knife on vet because shovel and chaxe exist
not worth over mk6 ever
knife vet is more so to pierce armor as opposed to handle every threat
mk6 has decent horde clear though
I would convert to shovel zealot if Fatshark loved us enough to give it to us
im not a fan of the shovel's cara/unyielding damage, even though it has uncanny
chain axe, first time ive seen someone speak positively about that monstrosity
chaxe is only for true sigma gamers, most can't handle it
Shame the Chainaxes can only damage 4 enemies per L/H sweep
Do you guys ever run builds without the granade regen talent? Feeling kinda mandatory to me right now... Granade pickups seem to be so rare.
Chax not get wrath or anything?
no chaxe doesnt have any cleave blessings
Not really, its that good a perk
demo stockpile is a must pick in all builds, other grenade regen talents depend on how much you want to spam them
btw just a question if you proc covering fire do you get the buff or only your teamates?

we have power blessings but both mk4 and mk12 have a damage cleave limit of 4
Thank you for the replies
No, and it’s a problem of cleave distribution dropping straight to 0 after 4th target
U quite literally cannot damage a 5th enemy with Chainaxe’s sweeping attacks
is that the ame with zealot evisc?
bring it down or rending strikes on rashad + zarona weapon spec?
ive tried playing without suppression immunity and its just a skill issue because too many times i either try to flick the trapper and whiff or im supressed and i cannot kill those 2 snipers that are having fun shooting at me
is there a table for cleave values per target?
excited for bolter buffs just read them
also just learned if you shoot plasma at 100% left click it just vents doesnt boom whoops
XD
Might try to write a small script to get the data out into a simple table
What stat is it in the lua files?
and which path
I think script/settings/equipment/weapon_templates and cleave_distribution
Huh but most have the same values that they reuse. single_cleave double_cleave big_cleave.. also there's large_cleave which is great naming
big_cleave > large_cleave of course, as everyone knows
naturally
DT calculator is pretty good
If it specifies a 0 at the bottom, then it’ll eventually drop to “dealing 0 damage in cleave”
I think the only melee weapons that do this are
XV evicerator
Both Chainaxes
All 3 bully clubs
Lacerate
ive been matchmade into chasm terminus logistratum so much rec ently
Go back to malice 69 
`whats the attack combo to skip third heavy on mark 6 blade
heavy heavy push shove not working thoguht it wouldx
Both PA and SP -> light chain into H2
2*
L3 also chains back into H2
ok perfect thx
combo is H1 -> H2 -> L3 -> L4 to cycle back into H1
i dont know whether or not this is more DPS than just cycling H2 -> L3 though
H1 > H2 > BC is highest if not using PA
Yes, potential perfect 380.
Depending on your talents you could hit 1tap bps on just about every elite, too.
youtube recommends me voice femization tutorials
bros a couple decades late
whats bc
Block cancel
start attack and then cancle I assume
is it a reset or does it take 1 attack in the chain
BC is not an attack it jsut means quickly press block
it stops combos so you dont have to wait to do h1 again or go to h3
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Just click “stop recommending channel” lol
watch this to throw off the algorithm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1n-bp5zWP8
This was my first ever cooking and eating experience with a 'fry-up' on the shovel prepared by the loco crew at The Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway on board Locomotive No. 80105 (and lived to tell the tale) but seriously though I really did enjoy my bacon roll and many thanks to the Loco crew on that day for inviting me onboard for breakfast.
watch this to throw off the algorithm https://youtu.be/h8Jfg8oh3YE?si=JmJ7OtNQZV36_f11
Credit to youngscrolls, the true tonal architect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-K2rUP86M
Sadly, Dagothwave isn't a a real chart for Guitar Hero World Tour yet. This video was made by editing together clips of performances from three different songs:
Eye of the Tiger - Survivor
Livin' on a Prayer - Bon Jovi
Beat It - Michael Jackson
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preciate it
should i take target down or redirect fire for a civi build ?
redirect fire
What’s civi
maelstrom modifiers
scab melee mael
Oh
maybe columnus infantry violin intercessor
Maelstrom Scab unit melee mostly and no ammo pick up
50/50 for a gunner or shooter patrol to spawn in
yea I got it
Very fun mission to play
Scab no ammo is awesome
Lots of crushers and maulers but fun af
But ruined by bulwarks
Flamers and bombers are alright
Can't forget about the trappers and ragers

Thats already in my algorithm 
Tanner have butcher's nails irl
This is the most insane insult in this chat yet but it’s somehow not wrong
i wished it did tbf
its classic insult you will see him soon join red butchers gang
got butchers nal in my foot,..,, only it works with painkillers and or rest
not blood...
lmao scoreboard having a momment
is slaughterere or rampage better on Mk 6 Power sword w/ cycler?
Brutal Momentum or Sunder. But if you have to choose between those I'd take Slaughterer over Rampage
yes
Yes, those 2 blessings together are the best. Change both your perks and you're golden
Congradulations on your sleepy stick, change perks and wake up at the mission complete screen
Actually you want Carapace and probably either maniac or unyeilding

