#veteran-class

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tame lodge
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On a shock troop gauntlet

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We fought two bosses

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And he only tagged a trapper

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Once

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Aaaaaaaa

warped smelt
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What Mk is the best Accatran Lasgun, I am aware they are ASS compared to other guns but I wanna have fun with vet. Im tired of Zelot and Psyker after almost 2k levels lol

tame lodge
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The best one is 7a

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However

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You can go ham with the 6d

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On a proper build

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The Mk2 has the best ammo economy though

uncut pebble
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Best is subjective to what you're looking for.

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The mk7 is very ammo hungry, so you basically have to use shock trooper for good ammo economy.

orchid hemlock
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Who told u that Recons are bad?

uncut pebble
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And also, yeah, recons are NOT bad.

warped smelt
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Literally just hipfire and shoot lmfao

uncut pebble
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They recently got a buff and they're really good now.

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Columnus still sweeps, but it's columnus, you can't really beat that.

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Anywho, for the mk7, shock trooper is basically required, for the mk6, onslaught is basically required, and the mk2 is alright without either of those talents.

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The mk6 is capable of killing like 5 crushers in one mag if you're dumping their faces.

faint beacon
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SPIT YOUR FUCKING SHIT SMUDGELS 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

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I will die on the hill of using the Heavy Sword on Veteran

last parcel
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perfect strike and chained deathblow with serrated blade and exploit weakness chadgryn

faint beacon
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cause its the fucking Heavy Sword

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lmao

tame lodge
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The serrated blade choice is weird

uncut pebble
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Hsword will go hard on weapon spec builds in place of things like chainswords.

last parcel
terse idol
frank monolith
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mk 6 knife but combos are kinda just like pa heavy, if you combine it with the hacker shotgun and weapon specialist you become a close range killing machine you can do (pa heavy loop ) and shoot whenever you want

faint beacon
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Honestly if Rending Strikes makes it damage jump noticeably on Crushers and Maulers, Im probably going to do IX with HT + DB

last parcel
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i read headtaker and double barrel lol

uncut pebble
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Headtaker deathblow (bromentum).

last parcel
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yeah i realized that after a second

faint beacon
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If not I might do Bladed Momentum?

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I'm going to be doing a lot of testing when UnL drops with Vet HS's

ivory rock
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Okay I'm curious if they have any plans on adding more weapons by the end of the year I'm still praying for a fully fledged sniper crying

faint beacon
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Possibly

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they tend to just go

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Surprise

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here's new weapons

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and then fuck off into silence

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so we can only hope

ivory rock
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FATSHARK

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GIVE ME A BIG ASS SNIPER RIFLE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

grizzled pebble
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The game is so fast pace for a sniper.

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I guess you're pro quickscoper.

ivory rock
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I mean sometimes you have advantage to use it

faint beacon
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I know there's a Stub Rifle and Long-Las in the files

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its just

ivory rock
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But it's mainly for fun

faint beacon
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when the fuck will they add it

tame lodge
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The "sometimes" is the problem 💀

ivory rock
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Like the sniper in Space Marine 2 is so fun I love blowin bugs heads off

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Well the good news is weapon customization exists so we'd prolly be able to ironsight it then I'd just be running around makin a faze montage KEKW_ogryn

last parcel
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get that long las scope so i can see every pore before blast hot las all over them

ivory rock
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Tbh tho I'm still holding out hope for an LMG or sumn adjacent to the miniguns that enemy gunners use

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I just want a spin up BRRRRRRRR machine to mag dump into a horde

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Cause it's funny and cool looking

faint beacon
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That would just be a stubber/helgun

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I want a stubber

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for Vet

ivory rock
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Yeah stubber for vet and I will do things that make the horus heresy look like a trip to the daycare

grand perch
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everyone wants stubber or somesuch...i want a multilaser

uncut pebble
idle swallow
lucid hinge
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If it burns you should go to the doctor

steep vault
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did I do this right?

misty delta
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is this for all kills or just melee kills?

faint beacon
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melee is 10% now with it

misty delta
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ty thumbsup_ogryn

orchid hemlock
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Because I don't believe flak gives u any breakpoints 🤔, I might be wrong tho

inland canopy
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in space marines 2 you gotta run and gun more

umbral scaffold
inland canopy
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wittle them down first then melee

inland canopy
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shhh don't tell anybody

umbral scaffold
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I gotta bust out the plasma gun meta build to have a chance to solo queue nowadays

orchid hemlock
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🏃🏻‍♂️

umbral scaffold
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Can’t just hop in maelstrom with a trusty rifle I’ll be the last one left and have no gg ez button to use

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Yes

craggy orbit
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Anything I should change?

steep vault
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nice one

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think it's good to go

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maybe stat spread ain't good

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but that's a good one

umbral scaffold
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If anyone wants to play I’m down mostly on weekends

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I like playing with the lasgun but man it’s not op compared to other veteran options

craggy orbit
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Yea, Wish it had max finesse instead of mobility

steep vault
orchid hemlock
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I would go maniac, flak, or elite

steep vault
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i did that today

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then grind it up with the itemisation (in a week) and make it a minmax

orchid hemlock
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Maniac is important because u need to one-shot the ranger and mutants even when light attacking

craggy orbit
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The push stab usually kills them in a single hit

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at least with a headshot

steep vault
craggy orbit
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Its why I opted with carapace to clear the hordes of crushers

steep vault
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you need to combo to proc power cycler right

craggy orbit
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nope

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You can charge it and get 3 swings with push stab

orchid hemlock
midnight totem
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dodge and repeat

craggy orbit
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The push usually takes care of the horde tho?

midnight totem
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mix in a heavy attack now and then

orchid hemlock
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Yes but ragers are hard to control

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Maniac helps u clear them even thru a cleave

midnight totem
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my power sword and build can kill any rager on a crit heavy headshot

craggy orbit
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Not sure though, ones mid charge heavy controls ragers as long as you have it charged

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I might try maniac on the new update, see if it does better

orchid hemlock
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So for carapace u should be push stabbing. But for maniacs u don't need to because they don't have armor

craggy orbit
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yea exactly, a heavy swing just staggers them in the horde

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push stabbing a charging mutant does one shot it tho

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even without maniac damage

orchid hemlock
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Yeah but what I'm saying is that the breakpoint is for regular lights

craggy orbit
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hmmm isee

orchid hemlock
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U can one-shot a ranger in the head even in a horde if you have BM and maniac

thorn lark
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sd

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k\wq09

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oops

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that's me cleaning my kb

idle swallow
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do the laspistols get good mileage from marksman focus or nah

unique orchid
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Whats marksman focus again

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Oh right the keystone

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Really depends on how often youre hitting heads, same for most weapons

tame lodge
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Laspistols like crit/spot so yeah

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Specially against flak

orchid tartan
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Am I going crazy or is the icon for these 2 shovels different

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They're the exact same shovel, but their icon looks different

orchid hemlock
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What icon?

orchid tartan
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The actual image of the shovel

orchid hemlock
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No they look the same to me

orchid tartan
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I swear to god they look slightly different

orchid hemlock
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Do u have the weapon customization mod?

orchid tartan
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I don't

uncut pebble
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It's probably due to the way you screenshot them.

final charm
strange garnet
orchid tartan
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SEE?

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I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE

placid portal
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Booting up darktide after months of break for a damnation run.
Teammates wipe out on the first wave of a defend auspex segment, like all 3 of them died in the same place, staregryn

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Clutching that one was funKEKW_ogryn

obsidian halo
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Why don't a lot of vets use mk6 power swords?

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Is it because it's not enjoyable?

tame lodge
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Bad dodges

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Needs power cycler

lyric dock
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Bad dodges and one blessing slot is consumed by Power Cycler 4

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But is a very powerful Melee when used well Paired with a high mobility range weapon to counter its bad mobility

unique orchid
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Also has poor horde clear from my understanding

tame lodge
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Not really

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Bromentum does magic

unique orchid
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Thats BruMo though

tame lodge
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Yeah

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Because if you're considering unpowered attacks then power swords are bad

umbral scaffold
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They're alright with slaughterer

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Granted I use a quadrillion melee buffs

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Because I'm BASED

unique orchid
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I mostly look at a weapon at its base without buffs or blessings

umbral scaffold
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Fair

unique orchid
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Speaking of slaughterer, that and wrath on my chainsword goes pretty hard

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Spam heavies into crowds, jobs a goodun thumbsup_ogryn

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Oh whats the hit 3 get bonus damage one

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That not slaughter?

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Ah

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Hell does shred do again

sleek garden
umbral scaffold
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Wait, the rashad staggers crushers out of the funny one-hit?

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Highly balanced

severe gale
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nerf vet immediately

umbral scaffold
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Zealot at home

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We live in a mansion

severe gale
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vet should not have so much damage

last parcel
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publicly violate vet players

severe gale
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freak

unique orchid
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I prefer the "buff underperforming" approach instead of nerf overperforming

umbral scaffold
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Verbally abuse VoC users

unique orchid
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Exceptions naturally arise though

umbral scaffold
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Fuck buffing, I don't want everyone one-shotting crushers

unique orchid
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The krak grenade in question

placid portal
umbral scaffold
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Me getting a free revive every minute while the zealot fights the ogryn to get some wacky situational item

unique orchid
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Also thammers and heavy picks

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Remind me what that does

tame lodge
lavish token
unique orchid
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I understand, but sometimes the easy option isnt the best

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Though i agree vet may be a bit overtuned

lavish token
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All the p13 “nerfs” are power crept out of existence

ocean moat
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whats the build for axes

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what blessings and such, and what it does well

severe gale
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DS4

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all exist

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(and thunder hammer is also pretty rough rn but the buffs will make it good)

radiant chasm
unique orchid
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Aye fair, they really did make most things usable (rip autopistol packwatch bozo)

radiant chasm
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fact is if you just power creep your game, you are making the lower tier weapons that don't get proper buffs worse, making the game easier until enemies get buffed which is just a nerf to the players indirectly, and you can't feasibly buff everything to the same power as the top tier weapons

lavish token
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The auto pistol is usable but everything else has been power crept

tame lodge
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They just stand there

unique orchid
lavish token
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Helldivers

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Honestly

unique orchid
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It wasnt helldivers but they did do that yeah

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I continue to mistake it for a situation like that

lavish token
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Darktide needs a large scope balancing pass

severe gale
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console FOV is so bad lmfao

tame lodge
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I mean

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There's a slider for that

tall torrent
tame lodge
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Will try with the Crusher later

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And yeah I like my FoV close 💀

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Let's just say that I played Minecraft with the max Fov stuff and got sick

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Yeah?

unique orchid
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Bro wouldnt last a minute in a quake 3 lobby

red robin
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so uh

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what's dump stat on double barrel?

faint beacon
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Behead veteran, roundhouse kick veterans into the concrete

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A lot of weapons though are extremely fucking powerful that Veteran has

unique orchid
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True

oblique totem
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I don't get it

umbral scaffold
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One day I'll develop a #truFOV technology

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Enough of that stretched-ass bullshit

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I will achieve 120° without warping

cosmic needle
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which shock maul is better in moveset?

fallen plinth
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it's bonkers with weapons specialist

unique orchid
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There might also be a reason 120 fov isnt common, normally games render what you are looking at and ignore most of the surrounding environs, its a strange trick but saves a lot of frames

tame lodge
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Darktide does that rendering trick yeah

crude citrus
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I dont think theres any game that doesnt

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Its just a basic part of the graphics pipeline nowadays

young fern
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aka optimization chadgryn

split grove
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What is the veteran boss kill gun

umbral scaffold
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Occlusion culling ☝️ chadgryn

subtle bolt
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Right

tall torrent
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Right

tame lodge
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Oh

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Ranged

lavish token
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Left

tame lodge
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Uh

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Ciagav

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Bolter

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Agrivolver

lavish token
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Zarona

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Knife

tame lodge
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Mk3 Helbore

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What else uh

lavish token
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Vld

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Kraks

tame lodge
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I don't really know

lavish token
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@manic cloak

trim steppe
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If you build for a very specific set of skills, developed over a long career of being a reject

tame lodge
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It's 12 o'clock

subtle bolt
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I've been trying the bolt pistol

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It's nice

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Slow tho

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Ya

tall torrent
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Yea

subtle bolt
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Like I said it's slow

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I use it with deadshot so sway isn't so bad

edgy dew
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I just noticed theres a bolt pistol and double barrel shotgun now, any advice on how to build them?

subtle bolt
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But it's recoil is long

tame lodge
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Oh and in case you don't have the boss killer weapon, red stimming the gungryn works

tall torrent
edgy dew
tall torrent
tame lodge
split grove
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holy, i shall horde reds with my gungryn

rigid pilot
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Idk why they made melee so ass in a space marine game whatthefuck_heresy

placid portal
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Bolt pistol is just fun to use with the bash shoot combo

edgy dew
marble lynx
strange crow
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Is it that bad lol? It looks very casual compared to Darktide and I haven’t played it but it sounds like I should get a refund?

edgy dew
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it looked like it'd be fun, but the controls were unforgiveably bad

strange crow
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I don’t really have an interest in playing something that seems so much more shallow than Darktide

marble lynx
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Same how I enjoyed all the Gears of Wars games...but I never really felt like I enjoyed the combat.

strange crow
marble lynx
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Same how everything about Witcher 3 is amazing but the combat aint' great..

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Witcher makes up for it's iffy combat in ways nothingn else ever could though 🤣

marble lynx
strange crow
marble lynx
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I'm going to revisit it in a few months, see what they do.

marble lynx
strange crow
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I’ve also heard the top tier of multiplayer consists of spawn killing with grenades

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So idk if that’s something worth investing time in rn

marble lynx
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PvP is terrible IMHO

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PvE is okay..

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But there isn't the variety in the loops.

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There's little quirks, like you can't defend yourself from certain attacks due to the timings and stuff..

rigid pilot
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pvp is fun for a few rounds

marble lynx
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They have a lot of 'feel' stuff to work out

rigid pilot
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trying to melee in pvp is lol, lmao

marble lynx
rigid pilot
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i picked heavy and top scored as a level1 KEKW_ogryn

strange crow
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Yikes lol

marble lynx
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That said Veteran rejects!!! I've had 18 months off and put in a good 10 hours back in the last couple of days. I used to run Damnation without too much trouble, but now I'm battling with Heresy...finding myself cut off and overwhelmed by mobs. What do I need to work on?

strange crow
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And how is the leveling/build creation in SM2 compared to DT?

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I’ve heard that’s more shallow too but idk

strange crow
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😬

rigid pilot
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ok not zero but its really really limited

strange crow
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Not fun man

rigid pilot
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remember the old DT talent system

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its than but the choices are even worse

marble lynx
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It's very minimal

rigid pilot
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your weapon choices are like, 2-3 per class

marble lynx
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It doesn't make a difference at this point.

rigid pilot
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and melta owns everything so lol build variety

trim steppe
marble lynx
rigid pilot
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although the jetpack thunderhammer class is cool, but its also one of the weakest class (to level) because all the strongest talents are locked at the back because !!

strange crow
marble lynx
rigid pilot
marble lynx
rigid pilot
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if you are being accosted by ranged and melee at the same time its kinda over no matter how good you are

marble lynx
trim steppe
strange crow
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No matter what u face

rigid pilot
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yea try to run into cover then kill the melees, pop out and kill the ranged

marble lynx
rigid pilot
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or retreat

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retreating is OP

trim steppe
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Yeah so many people just dive deeper when they get stressed, fall back and recoup when you need to

rigid pilot
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diving is extra scary in this game because horde spawns are tied to map progression

marble lynx
rigid pilot
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you dive in a bad situation and spawn a boss/horde lol

trim steppe
marble lynx
trim steppe
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Shit still spawns behind you but not as much as what spawns ahead

rigid pilot
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let them die KEKW_ogryn

marble lynx
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This game is top tier with a good team, and grim with a bad one 🤣

rigid pilot
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yea sometimes theres wandering patrols behind too

trim steppe
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That is another great survival skill to learn, when to dive for the res and when to let them die, clear safely, and go rescue them later

rigid pilot
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grenade res is usually very safe when theres only melee

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also note that you can use their prone body as a shield vs shooters

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works better if you are ressing an ogryn

trim steppe
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If someone dies doing something dumb (like diving) and are caught in a bad spot, trying to res them is just guaranteeing a wipe, instead of just letting them die and dealing with a man down for a bit but doing it smart

marble lynx
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Just getting to grips with the new tree, builds are so different now.

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I'm enjoying a shotgun / chainax with VoC build right now

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Not sure how a shotgun has any business being useful at the distances it is sometimes, but it's a fun build

trim steppe
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yeah the agri shotty special is just a single action sniper rifle lol

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with an oh shit option built in

rigid pilot
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agripinna shotty has the tightest spread with the normal rounds

jaunty spindle
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Ideal powersword blessings? I know power cycler is a given but should I run sunder or rampage

rigid pilot
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with ADS you can easily kill gunners in 1 tap from 10/15m away

marble lynx
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I'm actually running the Kant IX , but I need to rotate

rigid pilot
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the slugs are mainly used to open bulwarks shields

trim steppe
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sunder stops you getting caught on armor (bulwarks) in mixed hordes, BM ups your cleave and clear time by a lot

rigid pilot
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fire shotgun has the highest damage

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with the normal shot

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but worst spread

marble lynx
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It's the stagger that's doing it for me with the shotties

rigid pilot
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yea stagger is really good vs ragers

marble lynx
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Everything, dogs, everything

rigid pilot
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i used to run kantshotty/knife on my vet before double barrel

trim steppe
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Hey, a 4 vet auric maelstrom, this should go well

marble lynx
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I'm gonna go play. All this talk 😄

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Making me want slaughter

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Cheers for the tips!

red robin
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holy fuck

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it took me a handful of hours

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but i finally got darktide at 120 fps through the level and 90 fps in hordes

last parcel
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i sure hope the next patch doesn't ruin everything

red robin
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🙂

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kms

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got sick of cpu bottleneck so i overclocked my cpu

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and did a million things to have my gpu do some work it was idle on

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process lasso is nutty

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nvidia low latency my beloved

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no more input delay

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all there is to complain about now is servers

umbral scaffold
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and your power bill

red robin
# rigid pilot retreating is OP

backwards slide from 80% dodge and Weapon specialist for 25% dodge range into hot swapping the double barrel for a action movie attack

red robin
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what's the point of a gaming pc if I ain't gonna get good fps

steep vault
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Personal gripes w/ the penance bc I just don't like MF

last parcel
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doesn't help that the penance is designed stupidly and encourages crabwalking with melee

umbral scaffold
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When at 10 or more stacks of marksman's focus, activate executioner's stance and get 5 headshot kills on ogryns

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Repeat 250 times

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With much love,
Fatshark

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I always think someone is typing

steep vault
placid portal
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Agripinaa revolver is so fun

somber axle
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do the funny Marksman's Focus + Lawbringer Shotgun meme

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Manstopper Scattershot

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evaporate hordes

last parcel
lone sierra
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what mod sho elits spawn names?

last parcel
serene pagoda
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Yeah. For the drip is the best thing I could've added to this game while I wait for the mechanicus class thet I know would never be added

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@clever ferry

serene pagoda
somber axle
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My soul is going to leave my body if I queue again and find another Smiteker allergic to using their melee

last parcel
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you have a soul?

oblique totem
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I do

serene pagoda
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Not

oblique totem
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What did I do to you?

serene pagoda
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Too much meat and flesh

oblique totem
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I emulate the God Emperor with my human aspect.

serene pagoda
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+++ correction. It is impossible to emulate something without the assistance of a machine spirit +++

You must first upgrade yourself

somber axle
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As a cat I had 9 souls!

oblique totem
somber axle
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One for each life

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If there were 9 of me I'd be unstoppable

serene pagoda
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I know fast and painless procedures. Rest assured

serene pagoda
oblique totem
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Do that first, then we talk.

somber axle
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I recently finished Signalis and just wanted some after work Shotgun time in Darktide 😩

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but the creatures truly come out into quickplay at this hour

oblique totem
serene pagoda
oblique totem
last parcel
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cadiez nuts

umbral scaffold
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loose cannon? the only thing loose is deez nuts

serene pagoda
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The fall of cadia was inevitable due to their fleshiness and lack of faith within the omnissiah.

oblique totem
last parcel
oblique totem
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What falls can be rebuilt, but machines have no soul.

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Nothing to save therein.

serene pagoda
tame lodge
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There'll be plenty of psykers trying out the new melee stuff

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But I'll be smiting

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A taste of their own poison

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ahem

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Just kidding, I'll be probably Scrier's Gazing around

rigid pilot
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scrier's glaze 😩

oblique totem
serene pagoda
oblique totem
serene pagoda
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"most peaceful and respectful conversation in the imperium'

oblique totem
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I have been called polite for a guardsman

serene pagoda
last parcel
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absolute unit next to you lmao

serene pagoda
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Yeah LOL

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For a second I thought he was ogryn then I saw helmet

low pagoda
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hey

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i did a build but i don't know where to spend the 2 last points

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if someone have an idea

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i was thinking of thinkerer

oblique totem
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Not an Ogryn

low pagoda
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or for thoses

austere mica
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Grab field improv

crude citrus
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dont know why people dont like picking it

austere mica
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And grab a stamina regen delay node ig

serene pagoda
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I can't even open it cuz there was a blackout in my city and I am using mobile internet to shit post until my battery dies

low pagoda
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8 stacks to regen stamina node ??

austere mica
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Only really becomes relevant on monsters

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If you want to spend two points on keystone nodes then it’s redirect fire and the other one, not 8 stacks

low pagoda
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okay

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and i don't like field improv so idk

austere mica
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Field improv is a full team buff

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What else are you spending that point on

low pagoda
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it's just the grenade thing that is useful

austere mica
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The corruption clear and regen speed increase on medkits is very nice to have

low pagoda
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i don't get the point of getting your corruption clear

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use med stim , med station ?

austere mica
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If you run base wounds (like you should) being able to get about 25% of your max ho back is nice

serene pagoda
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It's mandatory in auric

austere mica
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And it’s reusable if schenanigans (poxbursters) happen

crude citrus
serene pagoda
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There's not a lot of team wide buffs in the game. So you take any that you can

austere mica
#

Because they deal like 25% corruption

crude citrus
#

not always available

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nor have full charges or heal whole team

austere mica
#

You will feel the difference

low pagoda
#

i mean i've always played without so idk if it will be a game changer

serene pagoda
#

Also. Can you imagine how broken it'd be if you could have 1 toughness as max toughness?

austere mica
#

You’d get bled over by everything

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And die horrifically

last parcel
#

payday 2 anarchist gameplay

austere mica
#

Anarchist at least has the grace period on their side

#

1 max toughness would die to like 3 shooters

serene pagoda
serene pagoda
serene pagoda
austere mica
#

Small issue

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Any shooter ever

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They fire in bursts

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And the second and third rounds hit straight to hp

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You would also get stunned by everything ever

serene pagoda
#

I mean there are sources of passive reven

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And you imply that your tough doesn't already get insta depleted on auric once you get shot

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Dude my internet is getting worse by the minute wtf is the world ending ?

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I typed this message almost 5 minutes ago and it just now sent

austere mica
#

Yeah but my toughness doesn’t evaporate to a single scab shooter

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It takes a fair hit

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But I don’t lose literally all of it and then take 2 hits straight to hp

serene pagoda
#

Id be a willing test subject

low pagoda
#

it does apply to all ammo box & med pack right ?

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not just mine

austere mica
#

Yes

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Teamwide buff

low pagoda
#

for the last point a stamina delay ig ?

serene pagoda
#

There are some really big ones

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Like the one that shares part of your current tough Regen to your team

low pagoda
#

born leader

austere mica
#

That’s only instantaneous regen or something though

low pagoda
#

since i like to play with 3 toughness curios that's good right ?

serene pagoda
austere mica
#

Nope, only works with non-coherency regen

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And 15% of your kill toughness is like nothing

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You’d need gloryhunter on something for it to be worth it

serene pagoda
#

I find having low tough overall better and easier thanks to my constant Regen it keeps my tough almost always capped since it's not a lot

austere mica
#

Conversely Target Down! Is 5% toughness per FT stack

oblique totem
#

Seems high risk

austere mica
#

And you apply a minimum of 2 stacks of FT iirc

serene pagoda
#

Also depends on their positioning too... Among other variables

austere mica
serene pagoda
#

But Auric's are easy so that's that

austere mica
#

I don’t think there’s a single source of flat tough regen in the entire game

last parcel
austere mica
#

100 fills just as fast as 200

serene pagoda
austere mica
#

Which aren’t

oblique totem
#

Spamming VoC keeps my toughness maxed out but it feels like cheating

austere mica
#

Reason why I don’t like it

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It removes the consequences of my actions

solemn niche
low pagoda
#

so what point stamina regen delay is the best no ?

serene pagoda
#

Should clarify what I meant. Yes all sources are percentages as stated in game. However you can clearly see a difference in speed in Regen.

While what you say is theorically correct. My experience is either placebo or you are correct and I am wrong.

low pagoda
#

or longshot since i use plasma gun

serene pagoda
#

You share a fraction of the Regen

solemn niche
#

I mean more thoughness regen, not more thoughness

serene pagoda
#

So it's be like 60% more

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Something like that

last parcel
solemn niche
# serene pagoda So it's be like 60% more

but it would be mutliplicative with any thoughness regen you have on your curios, and with confirmed kill giving you thoughness over time you would get uber regen

austere mica
#

It’s only 15% though

serene pagoda
oblique totem
#

I demand more autogun ammo

#

I keep running out

serene pagoda
#

I have 2 percentage battery

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My machine spirit will die soon

austere mica
#

Confirmed kill is 2% tough per second

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So everyone else is getting .3% toughness per second per confirmed kill stack

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It would take 5 and half minutes to get to full off of that

solemn niche
#

not too bad, base regen is 1 flat thoughness per second but the 15% gets rounded up to 1, so basically everybody gets 4 thoughness per second + 1.2% (assuming everyone has confirmed kill active)

serene pagoda
#

You don't usually only get one kill yknow

austere mica
#

Yeah but still

ionic haven
#

Im new to the game and started played a couple days ago. To me it seems veteran is pretty useless compared to psyker ad ogryn. Im trying to shoot things but the Ogryn and Psyker kill everything faster. No much point to melee if theres a zelot on the team cause they will charge in and clear a horde

serene pagoda
#

1%

austere mica
#

That’s glacial

serene pagoda
#

I'm going to die

austere mica
serene pagoda
#

1%

#

Omnissiah Protects

oblique totem
#

I mean, probably

last parcel
#

nah

solemn niche
#

there is only one proper way to test this. let's start a mission with 4 vets and see how much we can regen

last parcel
#

best we get is a dirch

serene pagoda
#

+++femboys+++

oblique totem
#

Can I get a lasgun stuck in the dirt as a grave marker?

last parcel
#

next reject called dibs

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so no

oblique totem
#

Damn it

austere mica
#

I can consistently outscore teams with a knife and shotgun

last parcel
austere mica
#

Vet is not weak by any measure

oblique totem
#

Vet is like the Zealot but sane.

austere mica
#

Vet is reverse zealot

oblique totem
#

So they lean more towards shooting the bad guys first

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Then stabbing

oblique totem
austere mica
#

Instead of crafting a build around your melee and grabbing a gun to complement its crafting a build around your gun and grabbing a melee to cover it

last parcel
oblique totem
last parcel
#

it’s your funeral

ionic haven
oblique totem
#

I saw that

#

Oh, damn it, the sun is rising.

austere mica
#

Actually Nevermind I am going to pass the fuck out

#

Byeeeeeeee

last parcel
#

based

solar zodiac
#

Based indeed

plain drift
#

thoughts?

uncut pebble
#

Good, but don't rely on it to kill anything with special attacks.

lyric dock
#

Yeah

toxic leaf
#

tfw you have lost a run at the endgame because you rev'd your (eviscerator) chainsword to kill a mutie and a sniper blasts you in the animation lock

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its happened to me more than i would like to admit and why i dont use those chain weapons anymore

shut vector
#

Didn't they remove the anim locks on chain weapons a while ago

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Because it was impossible to hit crushers without them immediately overheading you

toxic leaf
#

you can dodge out of them

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i let it play out to kill the mutie

shut vector
#

Ngl that does not sound like the eviscerators fault

regal smelt
#

Stealth cancels you out now too, even if you stealth as you start prepping the swing which is really fucking annoying

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So unless you use your stealth super early you'll instantly stop reving into the enemy you just hit

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Sucks that the only way to get the chain specials to work is to have an ability that staggers ready

grand perch
#

You just have to consider when it's feasible to do

meager topaz
#

whats the dump stat for the helbore lasguns?

toxic leaf
uncut pebble
#

You're gonna wanna be charging every shot so recoil is irrelevant.

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I would highly recommend running suppression immunity with it, though.

tame lodge
uncut pebble
#

NOT ammo.

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You want as much ammo as humanly possible without sacrificing damage stats.

#

Stability is your first dump, then ammo.

meager topaz
#

well I got this. Ill just wait for new update to upgrade this

plush jetty
#

How good is this ? do I just swap perks and it's a monster or are the blessings wrong too ?

solar zodiac
#

one more to fricking go

crude citrus
#

Stats arent best

#

Stats arent best for costing melk bucks tht is

#

Thermal resist bit low

hard cave
pastel yew
#

so uncomfortable to use

#

since your charge would be at different speeds constantly

terse idol
#

Change reload speed to +Elites

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Volatile to glory hunter

#

Blaze away doesn't give all that much damage but it isn't that bad

#

But you don't want +unyielding

#

You want to meet the gunner breakpoint

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Dredge gunner specifically

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Meaning you wanna be able to one tap dredge gunners

uncut pebble
#

Unyielding is funny for boss damage, but otherwise not necessary. The big kicker here is like Smudgels said, gotta 1tap gunners.

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Blaze away helps in the situation where the director says "Woe, 30 dreg ragers be upon ye."

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Otherwise, also not very necessary.

#

Well, actually, I'm also wrong on that, because blaze away helps for boss damage, too.

#

Mag dumping a boss in the head is a great utilization for plasma. (though there are better ranged choices for boss damage)

uncut pebble
#

Those are always funny to grab.

plush jetty
last parcel
#

normal people use headshots

terse idol
#

Also in theory +Elites would also damage them even on a body shot

#

Where +flak wouldn't change damage on a headshot

plush jetty
terse idol
#

Cause dredge gunner head is unarmoured

terse idol
#

So it's +25% flak on a body shot no damage modifier

#

Vs +10 elite on unarmoured with a headshot modifer

#

Oh

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Also +30% weakpoint damage because of the weakpoint damage talent

#

In your vet tree

#

So its

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+10% elite, +30% weakpoint damage, + headshot modifier

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On unarmoured

plush jetty
#

According to Lantern they don't have a head multiplier, is that wrong ? I know you have Precision Strikes for headshots

terse idol
#

Well it'd be

#

Weakpoint

#

Their head is a weakpoint

plush jetty
radiant chasm
radiant chasm
#

that’s for enemy specific modifiers like mutants taking extra melee damage

plush jetty
#

Oh ok, also I forgot the attack breakdown in the game shows damage for weakpoint I'm a dumbass lol

terse idol
#

In anycase flak isn't that useful

plain drift
tame lodge
#

26

#

Wait a second

plush jetty
#

If I left Volatile on, should it be +elites and + carapace then ?

crude fiber
heavy rover
terse idol
#

And glory hunter is bettah

shrewd minnow
#

UHHH

#

Ughhh

#

D:

#

oh b

last parcel
orchid tartan
#

Completed with Veteran kittygrin

idle swallow
#

Proud of you boykisser

dreamy spade
#

Lmao

lofty eagle
#

well someone got his moneys worth

#

finally did that

lavish token
#

I have been out done

faint beacon
earnest bone
faint beacon
#

Better hit 4k+ by the end of this year

earnest bone
#

I can't remember a single normal game(not a multiplayer one), which i played for 1000+ hours, apart from Front Mission 3 on PS One back in 2001

#

in that one i got around 2000 hours worth+

#

Ah, Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 and W40k Dawn of War

#

these are probably both at 10k+ hours

#

C&C is more like 50k+ hours if we count all games in the series

#

rip my favorite strategy series

serene pagoda
low pagoda
#

this is worth 1 point over something else ?

edgy dew
#

Does anyone else miss that month where they added talent trees but didn't give vets capstone abilities yet? Unironically think it might have been the best state the class was ever in 😅

odd sparrow
serene pagoda
low pagoda
#

idc about team

serene pagoda
#

fair

low pagoda
#

if every player is decent dosen't need team oriented build

#

i rely on myself not other in this game haha

serene pagoda
#

im still mad over the survivalist nerf, however it was an understandable change.

tall torrent
#

At best you get 0.9 more toughness per second when in full coherency with your team

#

It’s genuinely so laughably bad there’s never any reason to take it

low pagoda
#

what would u pick from this ?

#

with the 2 point left

#

( i switched focused fire for target down )

serene pagoda
#

Competitiver urge in auric procs very often and helps with treshholds

#

Bring it down is often overkill, as you need to check if your treshholds is already hit killing at full charge. or uncharged shots

tall torrent
#

Bring it down is good

edgy dew
tall torrent
#

Competitive urge is very situational

serene pagoda
#

hes using a plasma rifle.
he needs to play arround the game treshhold.

tall torrent
#

You don’t need to full charge plasma in the current state of the game

serene pagoda
#

20% dmg increase will change absolutely nothing if it still takes two shots to the head with or without it

tall torrent
#

Plasma’s best use condition is uncharged 1 shot flamer/trapper/gunner/shotgunner

#

You don’t need to use charged shot whatsoever

serene pagoda
#

which is why he has to test his treshholds and to see if it is contributing to the dmg of his build or not.

tall torrent
#

It contributes to his overall damage including his chainsword which is fine

low pagoda
#

XD

#

already took bring it down so still left 2 point

#

i have thinking of thinker

#

tinkerer*

tall torrent
#

Marksman & stamina regen delay not bad choices

low pagoda
#

as alikat said

tall torrent
#

Marksman is multiplicative to +damage so u end up with even higher numbers

serene pagoda
#

@low pagoda then i have two questions for you.

  1. Does the reload speed of the plasma bothers you in anyway?
low pagoda
#

nah idc

serene pagoda
#

ok

  1. do you have any trouble with hordes ?
low pagoda
#

using chainsword so no

serene pagoda
#

then i'd probably just grab quality of life ones.

#

this is one

#

stacks with the ones you already have

tall torrent
#

Stamina regen delay is usually better than this one

serene pagoda
tall torrent
#

I’d say go marksman + stam regen boost

#

U get both burst damage and QoL

serene pagoda
#

target down also helps

#

killing any marked enemy regens stamina

tall torrent
#

Would drop rending strikes

#

Don’t think rending strikes changes anything for chainsword Mk13g

#

And it doesn’t do much for plasma

#

Rending is a very weapon-dependant talent

serene pagoda
#

im looking foward to test the blessing that plasma loses heat on crit. and to see if it will allow a more spammy playstyle

low pagoda
#

okay thanks everyonne

serene pagoda
#

Omnissiah Protects

edgy dew
#

I feel like I've lost my mechanics in my time away from the game, if I don't want to interact with melee in a more complex way than spamming light attacks what's the best weapon pick for just doing some left clicking

tall torrent
#

Wait 10d for update then craft a perfect Rashad mk2

serene pagoda
tall torrent
#

It’s super hard to roll rn unfortunately

edgy dew
#

Alright I'll try axe and shovel, never managed to roll a nice p sword

serene pagoda
#

i just wish they'd rework the powersword. again. DongbaekSleep

tall torrent
#

It’s in a fine spot rn

#

Top 5~6 veteran melee but it requires the least amount of talent investment so it’s go-to for a lot of builds

serene pagoda
#

i kinda just dont like how reliant it is on spesific blessings.

#

sm 2 kinda did a better powersword in my humble opinion. giving two stances, a fast unpowered one and the slower yet stronger powered one. without the need having to activate every few hits

junior needle
#

I don't like having to constantly charge it every handful of swings

#

Agreed

serene pagoda
#

trust trust

#

the artisan is doing something junky with it

tall torrent
unborn moss
#

what would you put as perk here

tall torrent
#

At least next patch gives some more options

tall torrent
last parcel
#

me using rashad without bm

unborn moss
#

are all non poxwalker emenies considered elite?

unborn moss
#

ty

#

yeah thats a lot better damage spread than just 1 type

tall torrent
#

I’m so ready for the update

unborn moss
#

gonna keep on powersword it just feels so much better than knife idk

#

hoard clear just feels so bad

#

is my knife bad or is it just a sacrafice hoard clear for mobility thing that makes it so good

tall torrent
#

Mk6 is better than mk3 in basically every way (besides moveset complexity)

unborn moss
#

oh thats the one at the bottom didnt see that when I was buying bases to craft

#

XD

#

whoops

#

fleash tearer uncanny still fine tho?

tall torrent
#

Yea that blessing combo is fine

unborn moss
#

ok ty mark 6 has 2 cleave in heavy I see why my hoard clear felt so shit

#

xd

junior needle
#

Flesh tearer is better for zealot

#

But if you take the appropriate crit talents you CAN take it

unborn moss
#

was ruinning it with crit but would prefer to have grenades of other blessing is still good without crit talents

tall torrent
junior needle
#

"fine"

#

That's the keyword, not great but fine

#

It won't gimp you like lacerate

tall torrent
unborn moss
#

otherset up reposte uncanney?

junior needle
#

I think riposte is a better pickup personally

tall torrent
#

5 options for ur 2nd blessing

#

U can go with whatever

junior needle
#

Don't take executor on a mk3 knife ever

#

It's for mk6

unborn moss
#

id prefer to not have the crit talents so ill go uncanny repost I suppose

last parcel
#

fleshtearer smackdown with exploit weakness though chadgryn

slow sky
#

If you are able to take serrated blade
Uncanny mercy killer is the best vet option imo

#

By a large margin

tall torrent
#

Serrated + mercy is safe for breakpoints

#

Except veteran gets reciprocity + desperado which enables executor to hit harder while having the same breakpoints (even starting from 0 stacks)

slow sky
#

Vet gets free additional weakpoint damage, desperado, and uncanny let's that weakpoint damage shine through

tall torrent
#

Only downside is executor is harder to keep vs bosses ig

slow sky
#

Executors benefit is just too low even if you can maintain it

serene bough
#

especially take uncanny if you run shredder frags since it helps you bleed through armor better

unique orchid
#

Alright im done nerd reacting how would i 🤓 efficiently 🤓 set up an mg1a ilas

last parcel
#

efficiency falter

serene bough
#

Headhunter + ghost are my prefered blessings for iLas

serene bough
#

i guess you could run DA, but if you're planning to use mg1a then exec stance will push you over most breakpoints without DA

tall torrent
lavish token
#

18 seconds for 60 bruisers

#

Not bad by any metric

tall torrent
#

whats the setup

lavish token
#

Lacerate uncanny (on zealot)

tall torrent
#

ok yea

#

on vet mk3 is just

lavish token
#

I don’t like knife on vet because shovel and chaxe exist

tall torrent
#

not worth over mk6 ever

serene bough
#

knife vet is more so to pierce armor as opposed to handle every threat

#

mk6 has decent horde clear though

lavish token
#

I would convert to shovel zealot if Fatshark loved us enough to give it to us

serene bough
#

im not a fan of the shovel's cara/unyielding damage, even though it has uncanny

toxic leaf
lavish token
#

Head taker slaughterer on a weapon

#

Instant w

idle swallow
#

chaxe is only for true sigma gamers, most can't handle it

toxic leaf
#

the true believers

#

true sons of the emperor

tall torrent
#

Shame the Chainaxes can only damage 4 enemies per L/H sweep

lavish token
#

Kino weapon

#

Dclaw also kino if you use voc

fair solstice
#

Do you guys ever run builds without the granade regen talent? Feeling kinda mandatory to me right now... Granade pickups seem to be so rare.

unique orchid
serene bough
#

no chaxe doesnt have any cleave blessings

unique orchid
serene bough
frank monolith
#

btw just a question if you proc covering fire do you get the buff or only your teamates?

radiant chasm
fair solstice
#

Thank you for the replies

tall torrent
#

U quite literally cannot damage a 5th enemy with Chainaxe’s sweeping attacks

toxic leaf
#

is that the ame with zealot evisc?

#

bring it down or rending strikes on rashad + zarona weapon spec?

#

ive tried playing without suppression immunity and its just a skill issue because too many times i either try to flick the trapper and whiff or im supressed and i cannot kill those 2 snipers that are having fun shooting at me

toxic leaf
#

hmm

#

noted

crude citrus
unborn moss
#

excited for bolter buffs just read them

#

also just learned if you shoot plasma at 100% left click it just vents doesnt boom whoops

#

XD

crude citrus
#

Might try to write a small script to get the data out into a simple table

#

What stat is it in the lua files?

#

and which path

#

I think script/settings/equipment/weapon_templates and cleave_distribution

#

Huh but most have the same values that they reuse. single_cleave double_cleave big_cleave.. also there's large_cleave which is great naming

#

big_cleave > large_cleave of course, as everyone knows

last parcel
#

naturally

tall torrent
#

If it specifies a 0 at the bottom, then it’ll eventually drop to “dealing 0 damage in cleave”

#

I think the only melee weapons that do this are

#

XV evicerator
Both Chainaxes
All 3 bully clubs

junior needle
toxic leaf
#

ive been matchmade into chasm terminus logistratum so much rec ently

lavish token
#

Go back to malice 69 Smilers

unborn moss
#

`whats the attack combo to skip third heavy on mark 6 blade

#

heavy heavy push shove not working thoguht it wouldx

tall torrent
unborn moss
#

that works yea

#

was trying to heavys into push shove

smoky sparrow
#

did i cook

unborn moss
#

2*

tall torrent
unborn moss
#

ok perfect thx

serene bough
#

i dont know whether or not this is more DPS than just cycling H2 -> L3 though

tall torrent
serene bough
#

whats PA

#

oh push attack

#

figured it out lols

uncut pebble
#

Depending on your talents you could hit 1tap bps on just about every elite, too.

orchid hemlock
#

why would youtube recommend this to me?

somber axle
#

The algorithm has sensed you talking about him on discord

#

It is too late for you

last parcel
#

youtube recommends me voice femization tutorials

crude citrus
unborn moss
tall torrent
unborn moss
#

start attack and then cancle I assume

crude citrus
#

press block then unpress

#

just a way to reset to the start of your combos

unborn moss
#

is it a reset or does it take 1 attack in the chain

crude citrus
#

BC is not an attack it jsut means quickly press block

#

it stops combos so you dont have to wait to do h1 again or go to h3

unborn moss
#

gotcha

#

thx

orchid hemlock
tall torrent
last parcel
# orchid hemlock AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

watch this to throw off the algorithm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1n-bp5zWP8

This was my first ever cooking and eating experience with a 'fry-up' on the shovel prepared by the loco crew at The Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway on board Locomotive No. 80105 (and lived to tell the tale) but seriously though I really did enjoy my bacon roll and many thanks to the Loco crew on that day for inviting me onboard for breakfast.

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idle swallow
# orchid hemlock AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

watch this to throw off the algorithm https://youtu.be/h8Jfg8oh3YE?si=JmJ7OtNQZV36_f11

Credit to youngscrolls, the true tonal architect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-K2rUP86M

Sadly, Dagothwave isn't a a real chart for Guitar Hero World Tour yet. This video was made by editing together clips of performances from three different songs:
Eye of the Tiger - Survivor
Livin' on a Prayer - Bon Jovi
Beat It - Michael Jackson

Check o...

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orchid hemlock
#

preciate it

modern fern
#

should i take target down or redirect fire for a civi build ?

smoky sparrow
smoky sparrow
shadow dagger
#

what do i do with this

#

unyielding to flak, hv to skullcrusher?

shadow dagger
#

maelstrom modifiers

last parcel
tall torrent
#

Oh

last parcel
#

maybe columnus infantry violin intercessor

ocean moat
#

what do i change here

#

currently hunting for blessings to put on the shovel

modern fern
#

50/50 for a gunner or shooter patrol to spawn in

tall torrent
modern fern
#

Very fun mission to play

tall torrent
#

Scab no ammo is awesome

modern fern
#

Lots of crushers and maulers but fun af

#

But ruined by bulwarks

#

Flamers and bombers are alright

#

Can't forget about the trappers and ragers

unique orchid
grizzled shell
tall torrent
umbral scaffold
grizzled shell
#

its classic insult you will see him soon join red butchers gang

umbral scaffold
#

got butchers nal in my foot,..,, only it works with painkillers and or rest

#

not blood...

grizzled shell
#

u will be fine just rest and smoke

#

or join papa nurgle pain goes off

orchid hemlock
#

lmao scoreboard having a momment

novel scarab
#

is slaughterere or rampage better on Mk 6 Power sword w/ cycler?

trim steppe
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Brutal Momentum or Sunder. But if you have to choose between those I'd take Slaughterer over Rampage

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brutal momentum good?

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could also scrap it for cycler 4 before update

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flak and maniac I assume?

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I've never used Pswords just chainswords on vet lol

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