#veteran-class

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delicate hornet
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its also what ur meant to be doing with it so it synergises with the playstyle

red robin
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damn

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las pistol eating good

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other las weapons in the dirt rotting

delicate hornet
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recon lasguns are currently really good

final stone
red robin
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man imma be cooking some nutty builds with one spare point from relentless being a free point

final stone
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** + + B E H O L D, I M B E C I L E S + +**

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ikr I have two and a half brazilian half baked meme tier weapons just chomping at the bit

fluid gust
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I never tried Exe stance with laspistol, I'm too comfy with VoC

final stone
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I spend so much time giggling about what I want to do with it I still haven't fully gone through all my old blues and melted the 1s and 2s for whatever the currency in the update is called

red robin
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executioners stance is like, crippling with no mobility

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las pistol removes that

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i just dodge away and blast the people who want to knock me out of it

fluid gust
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True, true

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I love my +3 stamina curio

delicate hornet
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i cant seem to not tunnel vision with exe stance so VoC always leads me to performing better

red robin
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that's with marksmen focus too

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it's crazy how high fire rate weapons excel with those talents

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while the rifles suffer

delicate hornet
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yeah the free movement on weakspot hit/kill lasts for a surprisingly long time

fluid gust
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I usually dip strong into the melee talents whenever I go laspistol, should be interesting to do a more ranged-centric one soon-ish

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I'm too addicted to devil's claw parrying to go full ranged

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Chaos Spawn, ragers, Rinda, daemonhosts? Just parry 👏

red robin
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what i got for my las pistol build

fluid gust
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Couple with the +melee finesse and +weakspot damage talents vet has? Big money

red robin
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its for team support that focuses on tunnel vision and born leader

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power di tracked born leader healing over 112k toughness in my last match

fluid gust
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Oh, try a Kantrael heavy laspistol, that thing deals nearly 1000 damage on flak crit headshots

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It's actually incredibly effective at bodyshotting maulers, too

red robin
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true true

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i just like the higher finesse curve on the mk 2 las pistol

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marksmen focus eats it good and crits wallop

fluid gust
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True, but that really drops off on maulers with their carapace heads is what I've found

red robin
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that's a cross another player will deal with

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I am just there to give team toughness

junior needle
# red robin

I'd strongly recommend switching reassure to ghost, especially since you are already going deadshot/dnd

delicate hornet
# red robin

just pointing out confirmed kill will probably end up giving more toughness to ur team than the aura boost from charismatic will

red robin
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my build aint focusing on that

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aight

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confirmed kill it is

junior needle
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Just letting you know, there's a large drop in potential trying to give teammates very small amounts of toughness

delicate hornet
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confirmed kill is very good as it stacks the toughness over time

red robin
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man

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i dont care

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let a man dream

junior needle
red robin
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❤️

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thanks for understanding

junior needle
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I am not playing the game so what people build is no longer my concern chadgryn

red robin
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ur so real for doing that

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thanks for that

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my builds are just for goofing

delicate hornet
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the stat roll on that laspistol is very nice btw

red robin
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man

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it is insane how little stability affects the las pistol

fluid gust
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Kantrael pistol crits ough

delicate hornet
fluid gust
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The fucking maniac damage going from 156 to 703 is just augh

red robin
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ngl

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i think las pistol is my fav executioners stance gun now

fluid gust
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This thing is gonna fuck when I can change the perks

red robin
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lmao

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I'm going to put weakspot and crit damage on mine

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i am evil

fluid gust
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This is one of the earliest weapons I actually got when playing the game, got very lucky with my emperor's gift

red robin
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damnn

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pretty solid

red robin
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I wanna see how a triple rending buff with infernus goes

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Chink in their armor + rending strikes + onslaught

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it's hella point hungry but I gotta see infernus go hog wild

fluid gust
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Infernus is negligible at that point

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Someone's been posting that rapid-fire recon with onslaught and just dumdum + deathspitter stacks against Crushers

red robin
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yeah, idk what would survive 1-2 shots like that

fluid gust
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It can kill like 8 of them in a single magazine

somber axle
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Very playstyle dependent imo because Recip is very strong but only if you're maintaining stacks

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And if you're not juggling Recip stacks through a fight your crit is pretty low

fluid gust
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Eh, shock trooper doesn't provide that big of a boost for recons, from what I've seen

delicate hornet
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ive never had to consciously keep reciprocity up whilst using it to maintain ammo efficiency with the mk vid

fluid gust
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You might even be able to forgo shock trooper in favor of just the ammo regen from survivalist, given the huge ammo amount recons have

delicate hornet
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just dodging ambient attacks has been enough to maintain the gun for me

somber axle
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With Shock Trooper you'll be able to use your Recon through most of an Auric

fluid gust
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Well, that depends on how much you like shooting it

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True, true

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I haven't actually tried recons in auric yet

junior needle
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Recons have crit strings, so your effective crit rate is boosted very substantially

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It's a big difference in actual ammo efficiency

somber axle
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Surv Aura is nice but isn't nearly as good as Shock Trooper

junior needle
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Don't underestimate it

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Of course you can just take both if you like

fluid gust
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I think this is my current best recon weapon

somber axle
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Yeah I prefer Headhunter immensely tbh LOL

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It has lower value if you maintain high stacks of Recip but it's more fun to have a blessing that encourages aiming heads

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Less damage but it's crit you can more easily control

delicate hornet
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my crusher shredder 5000

junior needle
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During my limited time using it, I found reci to only really stack when I was getting hit in melee.

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"hit"

fluid gust
junior needle
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Dodging hits in melee

somber axle
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The general rule is that Headhunter will have more value if you don't take Recip, and it still provides solid value if you're not able to juggle stacks consistently throughout a match

somber axle
delicate hornet
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i take recip for funny knife shenanigans so im rarely without it

fluid gust
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But you really know what I'm going to whip out next patch? This badboy

somber axle
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You can get multiple stacks at once but it's still a playstyle dependent thing because if you're a backline fighter you're getting very little value out of Recip vs someone who rushes into the fray to be in the thick of things needing to dodge regularly and trigger Recip

junior needle
fluid gust
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I know it's no Columnus, but I love the Agri anyway

somber axle
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Recip proccing on shooters is temperamental LOL

delicate hornet
somber axle
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Sometimes it just decides it doesn't feel like it

junior needle
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Az states that hh on average gave him about 3-5% effective crit rate, but that's anecdotal.

fluid gust
somber axle
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It's also because he takes 5% crit perk, 5% crit talent and he's also much better than the average person at stacking/maintaining Recip

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The higher your crit, the lower value you get off HH

junior needle
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I also take 5% crit perk and 5% crit talent chadgryn

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But didn't use reci because it sugg against ranged units

delicate hornet
somber axle
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I've toyed with the funny build he recommended but I'm always sad not seeing HH stacking when I aim head height

junior needle
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so perhaps that's my issue

somber axle
junior needle
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It's probably better value if you can consistently kill things in the activation range, and also if you aren't cracked at aiming

somber axle
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The extra stacks of HH may have caused the crit to occur where it wouldn't have otherwise

red robin
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Is the 5% perk and talent good on fully automatic las weapons like the recon?

fluid gust
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I just realised the Kantrael laspistol deals as much damage on a crit flak headshot as the agrippina revolver, lmao

red robin
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But mid on the las pistol?

delicate hornet
somber axle
red robin
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Because the recon has like chained crits in a string

junior needle
somber axle
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Too expensive

red robin
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I’m punching the air

somber axle
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If you're Fire Team + VoC or Close and Kill + Infil it's an easy pick up on the way down

junior needle
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Az said 5% crit on laspistol was optimal

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due to the particulars of breakpoints

fluid gust
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More crit on laspistol is always optimal

somber axle
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And VoC is the norm for a lot of Vets so it's very easy to pick up 5% crit talent

red robin
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We are so back

junior needle
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On the faster firing one

fluid gust
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It's a crit weapon

somber axle
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Laspistols might be pretty funny after the update

junior needle
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I always took the crit perk and crit talent on it

somber axle
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Infinite ammo laspistol soon maybe...

frank ether
red robin
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I am staring respectfully

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Peace out dumdum

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Concentrated fire is my new bff

fluid gust
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If you go weapon specialist, all lasweapons will be infinite ammo pretty much thumbsup_ogryn

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I usually bring my Surgical helbore mk3 into Scab melee only maelstroms too

somber axle
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Just that Azrael has reported his build with Recip is getting very little value from HH

red robin
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I’ll probably make a real las pistol that ain’t a meme and make a ghost and desperado one

somber axle
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He was saying with 5% crit talent, 5% crit perk and Recip his crit rate hovered around 38% I think?

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Adding in HH only pushed it another 3-5%

fluid gust
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Blunderbuss

delicate hornet
somber axle
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It is pretty funny seeing how effectively the Recon Mk VId chews through crushers after the update though LOL

somber axle
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But Space Marine 2...

delicate hornet
somber axle
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I think he's said that Recon Mk VId is #2 Vet weapon now? Which is kinda wild unless I'm mistaken

delicate hornet
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wont be surprised if the new plasma blessings push it back down tho

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energy leakage just seems busted imo

somber axle
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But I for sure remember him saying he's played through entire auric matches both quickplay and solo leaning on the Recon Mk VId for 95%+ of a match and being able to almost entirely ignore melee which he can't do with any other weapon

delicate hornet
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i can confirm that, ive been running a very similar build

somber axle
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Zarona is for sure his #1 so it'd be really funny if the SotMG changes pushed Recon Mk VId over Plasma and CIAG

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Also it's wild how much cooler Cadians are in a game when they're not whining all the time

delicate hornet
fluid gust
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The cadian personality keeps complaining about Cadia being destroyed

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"Places like this endure, while Cadia's destroyed. Where's the justice in that?"

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"ARE YE GOING TO WHINE ALL DAY?"

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Him whining is pointed out by other characters a fair amount, so it's a deliberate thing done by the writers

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The female cadian has been less talkative due to not having as many lines, but they added a ton earlier this year, I haven't seen as much whining from her though

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She canonically tries to make herself as stinky as possible until someone points it out though

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I think there's a similarity between the Cadian and the Loose Cannon in that both have experienced loads of trauma, it's just that the Cadian's is a lot fresher and their response is to go 110% into vengeance mode, while the LC adopted a more "who gives a shit anymore" devil-may-care approach

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"If everyone was hardcore military badasses following the regulations and cultivating intense hatred we wouldn't be where we're at right now" vs. "You did that already, so following the regulations doesn't seem to matter"

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I love the writing around the LC, because their PTSD isn't immediately apparent from their dialogue

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But then they hit you with the "Me? I should've died years ago, so I know I'm invincible" type shit

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and other lines that reflect them losing faith in the Emperor, which puts their "Ammo? Maybe the Emperor does love me!" line in a different light

somber axle
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And they both get mocked relentlessly for it by most of the other Darktide personalities for it too

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They're probably just ashamed that they're Cadians in a penal legion

fluid gust
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The ogryn bodyguard is sympathetic, and the seer psyker genuinely tries to help them overcome the trauma in some ways

somber axle
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I know by level 30 the Rejects are proper Inquisition Acolytes but still

fluid gust
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"My beloved wants to tell you that what happened to Cadia wasn't your fault, he wants you to know that."
"I wish I could believe that."

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I think there's a Cutthroat - LC exchange where the LC actually manages to get the Cutthroat to laugh

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God I love the dialogue in this fucking game

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This seems like an EXTREMELY rare interaction

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4 vets having a full conversation with each other

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Male LC, Male Prof, Female LC and Male Cutthroat

serene bough
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damn that is rare

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never heard that before

somber axle
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Imagine how many other rare dialogue lines there are in the game that we don't see because the combos just don't appear

fluid gust
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I think in the case of veteran groups there might be more lines like that than other groups

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In part because there's a LOT of inspiration for the writers to work with, plenty of war movies focusing on squads with different banter, plenty of 40k books depicting different imperial guard squads and so on

serene bough
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i know all the vets have special interactions when at critical health

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but in game ive heard only twice

fluid gust
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They have plasma gun reload interactions as well

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and sometimes comment on each others' preference for melee or ranged

somber axle
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I think Professional Fem Vet and Judge Male Zealot have a few lines flirting too

serene bough
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Prof Male Vet: "Should've ducked!" LC Male: "Oh, thanks! Here I am in mortal agony and thats all you can say?" Prof Male Vet: "Should've ducked ya fraggin idiot"

delicate hornet
serene bough
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judge zealot has crush on fem prof vet

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you get a few lines here and there

fluid gust
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"Trapper's retreating!"
"AND YOU'RE NOT SHOOTING HER BECAUSE?"

serene bough
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male judge and fem preacher have similar hints

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i also enjoy the LC friendly fire

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"hehe... oops!!!... hah!"

tropic notch
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Or something along those lines

frank ether
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vet has excellent voice actors

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just a shame cadian lines are soo... yknow

junior needle
fluid gust
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Imagine how bad she must smell if it's more noticeable than nurgle cultists

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Actually no, don't

grand perch
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oh hey thats me

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#literallyme

dawn garnet
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cadians finally got lines i see

fluid gust
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Yeah, the cadian female VO got a bunch of banter lines in the Secrets of the Machine God update

frank ether
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I sure hope its less about cadia

plain drift
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Blessing recommendations for Devils Claw MK VII please

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🥺

vivid silo
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Rampage and Savage Sweep IIRC

marble mantle
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The only class that even has anything close to full body is zealot, with that big solid torso piece.

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Soon ™️

tawny badger
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how do avoid the chaos spawn grab again

marble mantle
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Dodge

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Or stagger it

tame lodge
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Usually to the right

marble mantle
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Best part about taunt is it staggers out of any animation which is rad

trim breach
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wanna ask, what kind of perks are best for the rashad

tame lodge
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Unarmored + Flak/Maniac iirc

trim breach
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here's my current rashad

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already put unarmoured on just dont know what to replace the 2nd one

pseudo fiber
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Shred to brutal

tame lodge
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Shred to Brutal Momentum

trim breach
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sh#t

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don't have B.M.

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welp

pseudo fiber
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Any levels of it?

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Because 3 would be fine

trim breach
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i got nothing

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@-@

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i just returned to the game hearing about this update so ye

tame lodge
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Well, you're one brutal Momentum away from greatness

upper viper
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hope they add the hotshot lasgun and pistol at some point

tame lodge
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Then stock up lots of Hope

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It's going to be a long winter

random tulip
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ALRIGHT CHAT

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WE FINNA GET REALLY FUCKED TODAY

pseudo fiber
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We are?

prime mirage
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DAMN YOU SLANESH

shrewd minnow
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any mods broken?

pseudo fiber
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True level maybe?
That breaks all the time.

random tulip
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yo vet chat

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Rate this for me

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its a challenge build so heads up

orchid hemlock
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the duality of man 😔

sand marten
random tulip
mighty anvil
orchid hemlock
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no

hasty meteor
orchid hemlock
orchid hemlock
hasty meteor
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idk, I'm just shitposting

orchid hemlock
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tru, we dont claim him 🤮

hasty meteor
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first time I looked at the zealot channel it was all anime discussion so I figured it was safe to throw a jab at them

orchid hemlock
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Vets are trans, Zealots are femboys, Psykers are gay, and Ogryns are non-binary

orchid hemlock
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Tanner had a nuclear take on your "uncanny" build 😔

radiant chasm
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Tanner is just a fuckin idiot who speaks loudly and repetitively with confidence

orchid hemlock
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I actually lost me mind when he said" knife is good on carapace anyways"

radiant chasm
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Great player but absolutely massive ego

hasty meteor
radiant chasm
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Knife is “good” vs carapace when you have enough crit, or using your PAs and heavies. But in the case of the latter, uncanny still provides a solid consistent boost your damage!

hasty meteor
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I can't deny my nature, it be how it be

radiant chasm
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Not only that, but uncanny affects your bleed (from talent, blessing, or shredder nades) and other dots and is always a consistent boost to your damage besides unarmored and infested

radiant chasm
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Slept

orchid hemlock
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tru everyone needs their sleep 😔

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I wish I can

grand perch
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you Orcan't?

orchid hemlock
austere pine
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i'm so insanely used to lasguns that i can't use even the agri 1

faint beacon
tame lodge
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Agri 1 is goated

faint beacon
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Tanner truly is a specimen that I want to study under a fucking Petri dish

radiant chasm
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mfw it works on maniac and unyielding even tho those aren't armor

faint beacon
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I was sold on it working on Flak

radiant chasm
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i mean there is a ton like him, in gaming and in politics

faint beacon
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That alone can get fucking annoying

radiant chasm
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and in a ton of careers

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you have people who are competent, but they have very strong opinions, won't admit when they are wrong, and their prefered form of arguing is to repeat themselves louder and louder with insults mixed in

austere pine
# tame lodge Agri 1 is goated

it's not bad but i'm used to the insane ammo economy of the infantry lasguns so when i do what i used to do on lassies but with the agri 1, i end up on 0 bullets

faint beacon
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Oh the heavy IAG variant

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Yeah that thing is fun

austere pine
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all the iags are good

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but i'm addicted to pew pew

sand marten
faint beacon
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It’s how I make stupid builds that work

faint beacon
austere pine
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i need a good graia

last parcel
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we’ll just blow it up and find a new planet to rename

tame lodge
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I'm too burst firing pilled to enjoy Ciags recoil

austere pine
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i'm too negative recoil pilled to enjoy bullets

faint beacon
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HHA mains 💪

uncut pebble
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I'm too recon pilled to bother rolling a ciag.

tame lodge
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My honest Aiag 2.1 cleave oh shit this is a mixed horde time to panic shoot and stack Deathspitter and Marksman Focus reaction

faint beacon
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Fires gun and deletes it

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Lmao

red robin
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I gotta use focus target more

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I just like constant up time with MF or WS

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Focus target is hella substantial for team play tho

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Kill this man in particular

faint beacon
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That crusher

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Fucking delete him

red robin
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Reminds me of memes of rogue trader

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“Abelard, destroy this man’s ball”

“As you request lord captain”

tame lodge
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"We'll have to kill this guy "
"Grut me"

red robin
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Man

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Is the shooter highlight node on volleyfire skippable?

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Just keep elite and special highlights?

red robin
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Yeah, I just to see if single point invest into an ability is nutty

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Considering relentless being baked in

radiant chasm
grand perch
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unless youre on a really specialised build

red robin
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It’s a dumb build that’s heavily specialized

radiant chasm
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i know bolter skipped it when pre patch 13

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for the instant reload feat

red robin
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That’s because the reload was hog wild

radiant chasm
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but imo you should always take shooters or ogryns depending on build

red robin
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Yeah

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The efficiency goes up with the reset

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I barely get forced into melee with the las pistol with its mobility and push special

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Like last resort I’ll push em

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I gotta try the hellbore also

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Demo a double rend build for sniping crushers

last parcel
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you only need 1 but double works too

radiant chasm
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it's also just a nice thing to kill trash shooters if your gun is good for it

red robin
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I just like using the node on marksmen focus

radiant chasm
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for your zealot and ogryns

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like nothing worse than a recon vet who doesn't use it for anti trash shooters

red robin
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My success goes wildly up when I’m killing all the ranged units they can’t be bothered to fight

radiant chasm
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if you spraying it into horde instead of the dozens of scab stalkers you need to be put on the stake

red robin
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🙂

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I don’t believe in ammo efficiency and melee combat

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Myths made by the powers that be

idle swallow
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My favorite pub build for bad auric teammates is probably surgical mk2 helbore because its completely ammo independent with shock trooper, handles all the shooters and can also knife the ragers my teammates inevitably let through

red robin
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What’s the other blessing?

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The faster charge rate?

tame lodge
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Weight of Fire

red robin
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I got a pretty solid helbore with elites and carapace on it with surgical and weight of fire

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a pretty a pretty

idle swallow
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On mk2 the other blessing is flexible as the base charge is fast enough

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Mk1 and 3 do want weight of fire

red robin
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I got the slow high damage one

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I wanna run marksmen focus on it

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But I think focus target would be better

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Marksmen focus feels hard to manage on an immobile gun

idle swallow
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Mk3 bayonet is ass, just do plasma or bolter if you want big damage ranged

red robin
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I like fast paced gunplay and stationary gunplay is hard to avoid on guns that require aiming precisely

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What is that bayonet?

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The stab or slash?

idle swallow
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It's the diagonal slash

red robin
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Yikes

hasty meteor
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the bayonet poke is so good

idle swallow
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Mk1 and 2 get the poke which is the one you want

grand perch
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Mk3's bayonet gets a lot of flak due to not being the overtuned quick stab one, but it gets a lot of use on my exec build

red robin
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Yeah

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That’s what I’m thinking abt

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But the stab hits with some juice to it

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Welp

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It’s time to see what mods are borked

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I’m punching the air

idle swallow
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Also I would say take focus target over marksman focus in most cases, it'll serve you better and more consistently as long as you remember to mark targets most of the time

red robin
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Ye ye

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I love pinging

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Shame my allies have to hear the annoying ass sound

grand perch
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just dont rapid spam it

red robin
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Yeah

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I just ping what’s important

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Like the dog on top of me that can be easily shot off

tame lodge
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Gotta save ammo, lemme run a marathon so I can punch it

red robin
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Another question, what gpu and consistent frame rate yall got?

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I might start running no mods for a bit because man does it tank my fps by quite a bit

terse idol
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The main draw for the mk1 and mk2 is the pooke

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And they're still good enough for exe mf

plain drift
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Any good veteran shotgun centered build out there?

dark sorrel
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Which shotty?

tall torrent
pastel yew
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space marine 2 tie in cosmetic when

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power armor for the vet

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doesn't need to give combat bonusses we're already there

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where the space marine walks (40 shots to kill a single non chump enemy) the veteran sprints (literally killing heretics on accident when sneezing)

frank monolith
pastel yew
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fully loaded seems strange

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though I've not used the hacker yet

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the others are pretty intensely ammo limited

plain drift
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And thanks for the build 🙂

frank monolith
plain drift
pastel yew
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wonder how much damage you can do with both of the barrels + exec stance + all the buffs for on power or weakspot hits

pastel yew
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kiss me... k-k-kisss me heretics head explodes

tall torrent
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Tallern Desert Raiders this Thursday

plain drift
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nice

frank monolith
plain drift
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I reckon hordes are the only problem?

pastel yew
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knife is fine into hordes

frank monolith
pastel yew
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pretty good from my understanding

red robin
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weapon specialist and knife my beloved

frank monolith
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you have infnite cleave with shotgun when you crit with manstopper

pastel yew
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imagine having manstopper though

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;-;

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in this economy

red robin
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hotswap classic

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you think they're going to add more tiers for manstopper and flechette?

frank monolith
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just relevel a zealot or vet to 20 or pysker to 19

pastel yew
#

I started leveling a psyker but

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I'd already got each class to 30

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literally twice with vet zealot and psyker

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and then I was like

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"why the fuck am I doing this a third time for one blessing for one build, I'm just gonna wait for crafting"

red robin
#

what do i do to this? just put power cycler and sunder on it?

plain drift
#

I could get a better shotgun roll right? Also, mind sharing those knife stats? @frank monolith

dark sorrel
#

I can't get manstopper 😭

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Hadron doesn't want me to get it

red robin
#

yummy riposte

last parcel
# dark sorrel I can't get manstopper 😭

it's difficult to get at level 30 since your base ratings are so high, so the easiest way is to get a new character or camp the hourly shop
or just wait 16 days for itemization like a normal person

dark sorrel
#

im not a normal person tho

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I'm playing Darktide

red robin
#

i love wasting my materials and dockets on something i should be banking for

frank monolith
#

||also asking for a friend do you guys know how to make it so the game doesnt lose audio/freezes since i get those alot and sometimes i just get pancake while fighting crushers or netted 9:31 (freeze) 15:15 where audio cuts off and comes back||

faint beacon
#

Level up a low level psyker

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For DB if that’s what you’re doing

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If it’s CB just do like Veteran

frank monolith
wet anvil
pastel yew
#

just kiddin of course though I have no idea

red robin
#

i already have an mk 6

pastel yew
#

many blessings have changed since I last used the mk3

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full convert

red robin
#

that be it

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i dont have brutal momentum 4 so im rocking sunder for now

pastel yew
#

tbf brutal momentum 3 is like

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barely worse

red robin
#

aight

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you've convinced me

pastel yew
#

;p

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I'm also just a hard brutal momentum simp

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one of the most silly blessings

red robin
#

12% weakspot dont mean shit when 3% is like micro differences

pastel yew
#

it gives so much cleave

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and yeah pretty much

red robin
#

yeah, i'd prefer light spamming over charging heavies

pastel yew
#

the increased weakspot damage is the token benefit, the main thing is being able to kill a bajillion extra things through cleave

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there are literal cleave blessings

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that give less cleave

red robin
#

i get hit so much without trench fighter drills

pastel yew
#

and then this gives damage on top

dreamy spade
#

hmmmmm........

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ah that's much better

grand perch
solemn niche
red robin
#

yeah, imma just keep sunder

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got no plasteel atm to swap

dreamy spade
red robin
#

me gambling all my savings

terse idol
#

What else do you use the melee for

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It can't pen carapace like the other bayonetts

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Ya still shoot with it but it's slower

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The other bayobetts on the other marks are just general purpose which is why it's so much better than the mk3's

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Because they still dooo shoot

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Hits the same targets as the mk3

solemn niche
#

I never understood the appeal of the hellbores. What does it do better than a revolver ?

thorn lark
#

Stab

last parcel
#

infinite ammo

thorn lark
#

Also. Infinite ammo.

tall torrent
red robin
#

you can rock the kriegs man drip in style with the helbore

solemn niche
#

they should give hellbores giga damage against unyielding to differentiate them from the revolver

tall torrent
#

But usually it’s ammo efficiency + sustained firing uptime

serene bough
#

I never enjoyed the helsnores

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At least when bayonet shenanigans existed they were funny to use

faint beacon
#

I like scrolling up and seeing shredders being shown off, they don’t know about the holy relic that is Bistol with LP

red robin
#

what that do?

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like 25% explosive radius and any range exploding bullets?

faint beacon
#

One second

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I must enlighten another veteran

faint beacon
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Without LP is the first frag

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Second frag is with

red robin
#

that

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is insane

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my eyes are fucking wide rn

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unreal

faint beacon
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LP is THE grenadier blessing

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Fun fact that’s without Grenade Tinkerer also KEKW_ogryn

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So it only gets better

tall torrent
#

With grenade tinkerer it’s around 15m blast radius

faint beacon
#

You can nuke hordes of specials with it

red robin
#

ty for enlightening me

faint beacon
#

Bistol is bad Mfers when I show them the LP GT grenadier build

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I kept top scoring with Path with that build

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We unintentionally made an off meta

tall torrent
#

It’s top 5 veteran build easily

last parcel
faint beacon
#

The grenadier build of all time

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Truly

dark sorrel
#

lol it worked

faint beacon
tall torrent
#

Basically ogryn nuke but u can use it every minute

dark sorrel
#

its so stupid how to get unique blessings like man stopper you need to level up a lower level character lmao

faint beacon
#

It’s how I got uh

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My HHA fully maxed on blessings

red robin
faint beacon
#

Path was the little devil in my ear telling me to see the difference

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Then we struck gold

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Lmao

red robin
#

obsolutely insane

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i pray they never patch it out

faint beacon
#

So give @tall torrent some credit also

faint beacon
red robin
#

thank you 9557185861

#

you a real one

faint beacon
#

It directly states “explosive radius”

red robin
#

now the real question is

faint beacon
#

Just call him path or what sneaky says

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Numbers cat

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Lmao

red robin
#

goes the bistol need to be equipped

faint beacon
#

No

red robin
#

holy fuck

faint beacon
#

It’s active 100%

dark sorrel
#

Fuck

tall torrent
red robin
#

i feel lightheaded

faint beacon
#

Literally

hasty meteor
#

that's wild AF

faint beacon
#

Get a good melee

red robin
#

with how psychotic that is

faint beacon
#

And NUKE

tall torrent
#

The problem with this build is mainly that

dark sorrel
#

what are the requirements

#

just grenade tinkerer and what else?

tall torrent
#

In terms of melee talents u basically don’t have melee talents

red robin
#

bistol with lethal proximity

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

Your horde clear is reliant on every minute or getting lucky with demo team KEKW_ogryn

tall torrent
tall torrent
#

But that’s not entirely a bad thing

red robin
#

me finding grenades

dark sorrel
#

and then lethal proximity???

#

and then LP also affects grenade?

#

Thats hilarious

faint beacon
#

Yeah

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The only one it actually effects massively is shredders

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We tested on Zealots nades

#

Does nothing

idle swallow
#

Give up all the talents and your soul upon the altar of lethal prox nades and the dark lord shall grant powers beyond imagination

dark sorrel
#

Any affect on krak?

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

So VETERAN EXCLUSIVE BONUS 🗣️

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

I love that image I made lmao

dark sorrel
#

So it doesn't really affect pack clear that much for kraks

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Damn

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Can't wait to bust out duelling sword + Bistol

tall torrent
#

Krak is not rly a pack clear grenade

grand perch
# terse idol What else do you use the melee for

mk3 bayonet is strictly worse than MkI and II, but mine still oneshots a lot of specials with 1 stack of focus target (and some without) and oneshots scab or dreg shooters (which helps to keep up exec while reloading). gets about as much use as any other weapons special attack, so thats why i dont call it weak

faint beacon
#

Holy shit you’re right

#

HS and DS

red robin
#

damn, imma need for the drip and make a demo man outfit

faint beacon
#

Might be good to pair with LP Bistol

tall torrent
#

It’s rly just power sword

faint beacon
tall torrent
#

Both those melees need talents to support

#

Which grenadier is too point starved to do

dark sorrel
#

How would you build Bistol for a krak build then

faint beacon
#

A meme build that unironically is busted

dark sorrel
#

maybe point blank lol

faint beacon
dark sorrel
#

sorry

#

shredder build

faint beacon
#

I hate to say it just

#

Do not

dark sorrel
#

I mixed up the two

faint beacon
#

Krak is good on its own

tall torrent
grand perch
faint beacon
#

True

idle swallow
#

Have been trying to get lethal prox 4 for a while but hadron says her strongest blessings would kill a beast, let alone a man

faint beacon
#

The build we made

dark sorrel
#

Does Bistol need to be out for it to work

red robin
#

lmao first bp i got had puncture 4 the 2nd had LP 4

dark sorrel
#

Or can you have it stowed away

tall torrent
dark sorrel
#

Thats so cracked holy shit

faint beacon
#

Get a Bistol with LP and Run N Gun

tall torrent
#

As long as it’s in ur loadout, u benefit

dark sorrel
#

Oooo that sounds like so much fun

red robin
faint beacon
#

I had a blast using it lmao

red robin
#

my bp

tall torrent
#

And reduces Hipfire spread by 30%

faint beacon
red robin
#

you got it boss

tall torrent
#

So u basically never need to ADS

faint beacon
#

Puncture is our second blessing of choice

red robin
#

you just gave a chimpanzee a machine gun

dark sorrel
#

Gotcha

tall torrent
#

Puncture is much worse than Run&gun for veteran

faint beacon
#

But

#

It’s better than the other options

red robin
#

what alternatives for puncture?

dark sorrel
#

DS + Bistol 🥴

#

Can't fucking wait

tall torrent
#

Everything else is inferior to this combo

red robin
#

oyes

tall torrent
#

It’s flat out the best boltpistol build on veteran

faint beacon
#

Look I’m just saying

#

We cooked

terse idol
faint beacon
#

We’re simply serving it

dark sorrel
#

You cooked

idle swallow
#

Best hadron can do is execution/point blank

dark sorrel
#

Idk who let you guys in the kitchen

#

But you cooked

tall torrent
#

Boltpistol grenadier build is basically 50k more damage than everyone else on ur team in first horde

faint beacon
#

It’s called Path read the fine print

#

Of explosive radius

#

I got a maniacal grin at the idea

#

Tested it

#

And here we are

red robin
#

do base damage buffs apply to grenade damage?

tall torrent
#

Depends

faint beacon
#

Yes iirc

red robin
#

or just agile engagement

tall torrent
#

Most don’t

faint beacon
#

But depends

tall torrent
#

Agile doesn’t

red robin
#

im thinking skirmisher

tall torrent
#

Agile is explicitly melee & ranged damage

#

Not total damage

tall torrent
#

Can’t afford & bad uptime

red robin
#

what if they buffed it?

tall torrent
#

Still can’t afford

faint beacon
#

Rending helps

#

Makes your frags bypass carapace

last parcel
#

w w w wwending

grand perch
red robin
#

how crucial is that left part of the tree

faint beacon
#

Pretty crucial

#

Makes your BP

#

Not dog shit

red robin
#

in what way?

faint beacon
#

You deal no damage

tall torrent
#

Would u like ur boltpistol to kill gunners in 1 shot

red robin
#

ok

faint beacon
#

That and raw elite damage

#

Meaning more elite damage on frags

#

Yummy yummy elite damage

tall torrent
#

And u still get a power sword

#

Use grenades on elite waves to regen

#

I think we had a game in hab dreyko

#

Gale threw like 5 frags in the first horde cuz they just kept sending ragers and crushers

faint beacon
#

Kept getting them back

tall torrent
#

And I was on Ogryn with karsolas

faint beacon
#

I think I was like constantly 50k ahead of him

#

He’d get close and then another horde would spawn and boom I’m ahead by another 50k

#

Lmao

red robin
#

and agile engagement is needed too right?

faint beacon
#

Yes

red robin
#

aight

faint beacon
#

Makes your PS and Bistol useable

#

Well PS is PS

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

more so for Bistol

tall torrent
#

It buffs ur weapons

#

Outside of grenades

red robin
#

oyes

tall torrent
#

U can drop it but I think it’s the best 2 point grab in a grenadier build

red robin
#

redirect fire buffs nade damage right?

tall torrent
#

Yes

#

And enables boltpistol breakpoints

red robin
#

7.5% vs 12% ain

#

aint that huge right?

tall torrent
#

Suppression immunity is not necessary because with Run&gun u can ignore ADS

red robin
#

over agile engagement making melee usable

tall torrent
red robin
#

that's what i meant

tall torrent
red robin
#

i think the build is way more thought out than anything i can tweak tbh

tall torrent
red robin
tall torrent
#

Still huge

red robin
#

wtf

#

run and gun keeps getting more peak

tall torrent
#

It’s accurate enough to ignore ADS at most ranges

marble mantle
red robin
#

aight goodbye puncture

marble mantle
faint beacon
#

He’s usually running a Kasrkin look

#

Me I’m just Steel Legion

marble mantle
#

Honestly if I want one that’s like super armored, I want it to be ALL armor. Those exposed biceps? No thanks. Armor that.

#

But if I can’t have that I run as little armor as possible. I’m just wearing a tank top rn

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

Loyalist 6th outfit covers everything

#

Looks really damn nice on Oggie

tall torrent
#

I just want more armored cosmetics for veteran

marble mantle
#

I have the 6th

#

I like it but I don’t fw the legs

#

No armor at all

faint beacon
#

Never hurts to experiment

last parcel
#

mmm hnngg protecc

faint beacon
#

I just like the full body covering

slow spade
#

Man I can't wait for the new update 😩

#

I have so many nearly good weapons that Hadron bricked

red robin
tall torrent
#

Everything else up to u

red robin
#

does that do enough to survive a shot from a sniper?

slow spade
#

Get 3 wound curios

red robin
#

awesome

slow spade
#

I still get 3 toughness curios personally

#

Because snipers are a myth

#

Darktide hasn't added a longlas yet thumbsup_ogryn

grand perch
#

Snipers are far from the worst specials around, but they're close to my number #1 hated. Obviously trappers get number one spot tho

last parcel
#

wanna tie up those trappers ong

ivory rock
#

Been a min since I've played n I ain't touch MK2 much but hows this look?

terse idol
#

Damage low

#

Also weight of fire and surgical kiinnda contradict one another

terse idol
#

Really? monkaEXT

#

Does surgical give you that 20% on one stack?

ivory rock
#

I know dmg is a lil low but I remember a hot min back someone said this wep works okay even on lower dmg rolls (obv tryna get a better one anyway but)

last parcel
red robin
#

does uncanny strike buff the bleed damage from frag grenade bleed?

red robin
#

aight

#

we are so back

tall torrent
#

But it’s not necessary for the grenadier build

last parcel
tall torrent
#

Because out of the 3 uncanny weapons to be available for veteran next patch

#

Shovel has bad boss damage and grenadier build wants a melee that does both horde & boss damage well

red robin
#

i see?

tall torrent
#

Knife & duelling sword need heavy melee talent investment which this build can’t afford

red robin
#

so the powersword will do the trick

#

as it needs little investment to do work?

slow spade
#

Dueling sword will be funny though

tall torrent
#

It’s basically only power sword that fits into this spot

slow spade
#

Making it meta

red robin
#

mk6 power sword right?

#

over the mk3

tall torrent
#

Mk6 is the better one

red robin
#

power cycler and what other blessing?

tall torrent
#

BM/sunder

#

Up to preference

red robin
#

alrighty thanks

ivory rock
#

I need to read patch notes

#

I reinstalled cause my friend who still plays said this next update is gonna change the world (not their actual words but xd)

red robin
#

i mean

#

it's kind of huge

faint beacon
#

It’s going to be pretty huge in change to gameplay

red robin
#

my fav part of vt2 was min maxing

#

60% crit power huntsmen longbow my beloved

last parcel
slow spade
#

I remember when people were convinced Power Cycler did not exist

#

Soon every Vet will have access to it

#

Going to be fun c:

ivory rock
#

It's been a hot min so I cant exactly remember which I'm thinkin of or if it's even correct but does this mean that one shotgun blessing that added like bleed dmg or sumn is gonna have a t4 now cause I'm p sure it was only t2

fluid gust
#

That's right, Flechette 4

ivory rock
#

HNNNNNNNNG

#

MY ALL BLEED GRENADE BUILD WILL FINALLY HAVE A PROPER GUN

#

Okay did a quick read of patch notes, looks p good, I'm happy

slow spade
#

Oh you didn't see that rager and bulwark spawns are being doubled UwU

#

"Added Mortarion to Elite spawns"

faint beacon
#

Warhammer 40k Ragertide

slow spade
#

That's why you have 3

#

I see an innocent family of poxwalkers

faint beacon
#

It’s funny cause we have the actual LP grenadier build under that post lul

slow spade
#

I fire 3 nades

#

Holy shit that is one hell of a take

faint beacon
#

Shredders are a 1 and done

#

Immolation

last parcel
#

wait wasn’t that argument from last week KEKW_ogryn

faint beacon
#

Would be literally busted

#

If it came back every minute

last parcel
#

has he been sitting on that all ths time

faint beacon
#

When was the argument

last parcel
#

true chadgryn

slow spade
#

Plasma is king 💪

faint beacon
#

I mean to be fair they also posted Zarona being better than Bistol

slow spade
#

God I love plasma in SM2

faint beacon
#

Like no shit it’s the Zarona

#

Yeah but like I wanna use my heavy bolt rifle…

slow spade
#

I hear Heavy using Heavy Melta is busted as fuck

faint beacon
#

No it’s not tragically

#

They just need to do tweaking

#

Istfg

slow spade
#

I'm just happy the plasma guns are fun

faint beacon
#

If I see melta nerfed

#

Cause I’d rather everything just be bumped up a tier

#

But they’ll take the easier route

slow spade
#

I personally think the bolt rifles are pretty weak too

#

A buff would be nice

#

The only bolt rifle I liked was the grenade launcher one

faint beacon
#

Pocket MG my beloved

slow spade
#

Didn't like that one either

faint beacon
#

Tactical main

slow spade
#

Figured after I queue'd with one

faint beacon
#

I did notice how tactical has a perk

slow spade
#

Saw him solo a Ravager

faint beacon
#

If you perfect parry it aus scans the enemy

ivory rock
slow spade
#

Grenade keystone next week UwU

ivory rock
slow spade
red robin
idle swallow
red robin
#

I wonder how Run and gun 4 will be

#

15% close damage, I wonder if the hidden spread will be shown

tall torrent
#

If it gets a t4

#

It is now time for me to figure out how to do blessing section in my guide

slow spade
#

Blaze Away 4 maybe?

red robin
#

Damn big if true

tall torrent
#

This is weapon page layout rn

tame lodge
red robin
#

Awesome

last parcel
slow spade
red robin
#

Tf is bonus impact damage?

slow spade
tall torrent
slow spade
tall torrent
red robin
#

Ooo, so no boost in damage? Just stagger?

tall torrent
last parcel
faint beacon
slow spade
last parcel
faint beacon
#

Fucking vile

tall torrent
#

nah this color doesn't look good

dreamy spade
#

I retire my case

last parcel
ivory rock
#

I couldn't find a gif of it (who tf actually watches Bberry)

faint beacon
#

Try that

#

Brown-Orange

umbral granite
#

Today i learned that 3 veterans with krak and shout can make a plage ogryn fall off a bridge... and we didnt even do it on purpose.

umbral granite
#

ogryn just rounded the corner and we accidentally staggered our shouts and grenades in such a way that we knocked the plague ogryn off the bridge

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

Yeah it reminds me of the auspex

#

But that orange is also good you just need to tweak it a bit more

tall torrent
#

Too much effort chadgryn

#

Am lazy chadgryn

last parcel
#

fuck it push back the release even further chadgryn

tall torrent
#

I’ll at least make the template for blessings rn

faint beacon
#

You will suffice

tall torrent
#

Then proceed with curio section & stagger

faint beacon
#

With the drip fed guide

#

Till UnL drops

last parcel
#

i wlil paste the old weapon radar charts every time a new player shows up

terse idol
#

Keep it consistant on dah green, (I kinda liked the neon orange)

faint beacon
#

Do not.

tall torrent
#

Orange is better for a text color

#

Not a cell shader

tall torrent
last parcel
tall torrent
last parcel
tall torrent
#

it's meh

idle swallow
#

Can you make a version where all the text is comic sans

tall torrent
#

No

tame lodge
#

Kek

faint beacon
tall torrent
hasty meteor
#

Heck, I still appreciate the current pinned guide, helped me a lot try new things and make sure I wasn't gimping myself somehow

tall torrent
hasty meteor
red robin
#

does LP on the bistol increase barrel explosions?

red robin
#

damn

#

i really thought i could cheese the penance

#

so uh

#

idk if this will be in the new update

#

but im using a mod that allows you to make loadouts in the training room

#

tier 4 of run and gun does tighten the spread

tall torrent
red robin
#

Yeah, the mod just lets you apply any blessing

#

Even for ones that go above obtainable ones

#

Not final tho, gotta see if it is implemented with how the code is now

orchid hemlock
last parcel
red robin
#

I hope they keep the code as is

tall torrent
last parcel
#

the sun tzu quote chadgryn

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

Change your cross hair

red robin
#

yeah

faint beacon
#

You won’t regret it

red robin
#

changed it

#

that one is ugly af

#

man

#

i got a psychotic build cooking

serene bough
faint beacon
#

Or Gamma-X

faint beacon