Ur meant to use it intermittently kinda
#veteran-class
tall torrent
slow sky
i still think its good but im not personally good at using it
severe gale
exactly why i never block (also i run desperation, being above 10% stamina is a sin)
slow sky
Ur meant to use it intermittently kinda
im talking about a rager pack instantly breaking stam
which has happened more than once
cuz enough hit from the first block at the same time, and any that didnt hit proceeded to devour me during the stam break
tall torrent
im talking about a rager pack instantly breaking stam
It’s ok vs like 2~3
Not good vs like 8 lol
slow sky
it was like 4-5
crimson pebble
We love shredder frag
tall torrent
5 still works
slow sky
5 still works
they all didnt hit at the exact same time
plus i was on zealot and i think they inherently have less stamina bars
for smaul
idk ive just gotten destroyed every time ive used the shock maul period
tall torrent
Pretty sure zealot has either same or more stamina than veteran (without +stamina curios)
slow sky
im pretty sure its less but much much higher regen
tall torrent
Zealot base is 3
Veteran base is 2
But veteran gets +1 from confirmed kill starting path
So usually same stamina amount
slow sky
is it really
ive couldve sworn ive had 3 stam on base knife zealot and 4 on vet
tall torrent
Zealot regens stamina at shorter delay and faster rate
Zealot: 0.75s delay, 1.5/s
Veteran: 1.0s delay, 1/s
tall torrent
Veteran’s price for having the best melee dps in the game is also having the worst base melee-related feel
hearty panther
Cept Vet gets to juice the delay to .75 or .5 if desired.
tall torrent
Yea usually by trading some dps nodes tho
slow sky
Cept Vet gets to juice the delay to .75 or .5 if desired.
at the cost of any logic in your pathing lmao
hearty panther
Absolutely worth it.
tall torrent
at the cost of any logic in your pathing lmao
Nah they’re not hard to grab
slow sky
Nah they’re not hard to grab
one requires me to get close to marksmans focus which is my kryptonite
so i wont
tall torrent
It’s just that a lot of the time veteran goes turbo damage for breakpoints cuz he’s really just 10~15% damage off another breakpoint a lot of the time
last parcel
i skip superiority complex because my superiority is quite simple
slow sky
i skip superiority comples cuz it hits no breakpoints on my build and i just take 15% close damage on ability use for bosses and hordes
last parcel
so you're still just 1 point from the stam regen delay
slow sky
so you're still just 1 point from the stam regen delay <:chadgryn:11611429982146...
1 point that i will not spend
tall torrent
one requires me to get close to marksmans focus which is my kryptonite
I wish marksman focus had some sort of interaction with melee
slow sky
I wish marksman focus had some sort of interaction with melee
i wish it didnt exist
i just hate it
i mmt cheese that penance
fuck that
last parcel
I wish marksman focus had some sort of interaction with melee
use mf for rending on melee
tall torrent
i mmt cheese that penance
fuck that
I crab knife’d 5 games 
slow sky
I crab knife’d 5 games <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
i stood at mercantile for 20 minutes swinging crouched between 2 boxes
occasionally popping smokes and infil for those respective penances
i hate smokes too
i dont hate infil but i hate the condition for the penance progress for it
crimson pebble
True real and based
narrow bay
i dont hate infil but i hate the condition for the penance progress for it
You mean activate it and walk past everything for passive progress
proud marsh
Which chainsword is best for cc?
tall torrent
Which chainsword is best for cc?
Mk4 is the better chainsword
pseudo fiber
Yeah use that
or upgrade it
if it's bad then itemisation fixes it
literal godroll
tribal rune
if it's bad then itemisation fixes it
true. cool ill see what she rolls up to when i get the mats
tall torrent
potentially usable?
Usable but missing a dodge
Wait for update (19 days away) then u can make a perfect axe with that
Literal perfect godroll
balmy flume
…Marksman’s focus.
Can one actually use VoC with it instead…?
last parcel
i use mf with voc a lot
balmy flume
Yea, was running Exec stance with MF for a penance.
Found out I became too…squishy lol
last parcel
exe mf is pretty overkill most of the time
balmy flume
Thx.
Just finding a way to grind those 2500 MF kills lol.
Planning to do it with an Accatran.
last parcel
embrace manstopper
last parcel
Thx.
Just finding a way to grind those 2500 MF kills lol.
Planning to do it with...
i forgot to include the video lol
https://streamable.com/5onxxl
scarlet path
potentially usable?
Oh yes upgrade that, that axe is a godly roll
tribal rune
will do
balmy flume
@last parcel thanks for the tips - surprised I didn’t think of the shotty for it…
upper wigeon
W axe or what
last parcel
W axe or what
damn it's secrets of the machine god all over again
red robin
Man
Do ragers have clunky ass head hitboxes?
I swear I only land phantom hits on them
last parcel
they twitch due to all the cocaine they snort
serene bough
slow spade
https://tenor.com/view/goku-ultra-instinct-gif-26480220
watch flak ragers get carapace or some shit
trim steppe
If I wanted a perfect stat plasmagun, what would I be aiming for
Are charge rate and thermal the two stats you want to take a hit?
tame lodge
Probably some lesser number
trim steppe
So probably something like 80 dam / 80 SP / 80 ammo / 70 CR / 70 TR
trim steppe
Powersword bad is definitely a hot take
Feels like you have lead boots on, but who needs to be fast when everything within 10m of you is vaporized
wild vortex
I would like to use psword but I hate hitting charge every 2 swings and without it it's just a wooden paddle
red robin
man
wild vortex
Wish the difference between charged and uncharged wasn't so extreme
red robin
manstopper double barrel aint no joke
trim steppe
Yes but if you get PC4 then you only have to do it every 3 swings, peak gameplay
red robin
i got shattershot and weapon specialist makes it crit basically everytime
kinda wild the store rotated manstopper and flechette in the store
crimson pebble
Even w out scattershot youll still guarantee a crit after 3 melee kills
red robin
i just like killing 1 guy and hotswapping
i got another double barrel with deathspitter and manstopper
oblique totem
embrace manstopper <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Did you make this?
last parcel
Did you make this?
what do you think
oblique totem
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised by either answer
last parcel
fair enough
oblique totem
When does the newest patch come? I want to try out the new weapons
oblique totem
Nah the patch, or whatever they call it
pseudo fiber
Unlocked and loaded?
26th?
last parcel
Nah the patch, or whatever they call it
unlocked and loaded / itemization is the only one where we have a set date
oblique totem
Lame
oblique totem
What's wrong with it?
thin stone
Lmao
scarlet path
There was a mfer who had the Rager scream on a sound board and would randomly play it on the in-game chat
thin stone
jesus
scarlet path
PTSD inducing
thin stone
I decided to practice melee in damnation and build muscle memory before I move to auric damn
no more auric damns for me
midnight totem
What's wrong with it?
number of things
thin stone
The story is good though
(I haven't played it)
But almost everyone I met gave it a 9.5 on campaign
midnight totem
first, connectivity is sucking, badly, hard to get into a pvp game
some games start and then crash back to the lobby, on repeat, and if you leave and try to find a new lobby its a coin flip whether it works, or something in the connecting to a server is frozen
two, certain customizations are not saving and I have no idea why
scarlet path
some games start and then crash back to the lobby, on repeat, and if you leave a...
Okay so there is a workaround for infinite loading screens
pseudo fiber
first, connectivity is sucking, badly, hard to get into a pvp game
and the game isn't even fully released yet.
you excited for monday?
scarlet path
If you're in a squad with someone they need to transfer party leadership to you and it will start loading you in
And vice versa
may take a try or two sometimes
midnight totem
If you're in a squad with someone they need to transfer party leadership to you ...
talking about pvp
anyway, like I made a custom space wolf color scheme, I have the decals and coors unlocked, and the game keeps defaulting the space wolf decal on one pauldron to an ultramarine decal
scarlet path
anyway, like I made a custom space wolf color scheme, I have the decals and coor...
Yeeaaaah heard about that glitch too
That one seems annoying asf
midnight totem
relatively minor, but since it happens -every- game startup
and I'm not getting in more pvp games to get currency to unlock shit
its fucking annoying
campaign is decent so far, although the bots are, more or less useless
darktide bots are more useful
pseudo fiber
I've heard that yeah.
I've also heard the enemies have a lovely tendancy to just ignore them too
crude fiber
The ranged enemies seem pretty annoying from what I've seen
midnight totem
the ranged enemies can be horrific
... but I'n kinda used to that from space marine one lol
also darktide
jaunty spindle
Lawbringer worth using?
uncut pebble
But almost everyone I met gave it a 9.5 on campaign
The very end is the only thing I have an issue with, story wise. The antagonist was good, the story was good, but the very end just didn't sit right with me, but I think that's on purpose for the creation of an eventual third game. Titus's story isn't over. Not yet.
thorn lark
Lawbringer worth using?
No respite + full bore / scattershot or scattershot + manstopper good
shadow basin
anyone got a decent shotgun build i can steal borrow ideas from?
lawbringer, not double barrel
thought i also wouldn't mind a double barrel build
thorn lark
This is what I use with one point to spare for the db shotgun
Works with any other shotgun too
thorn lark
This talent is kinda the cornerstone of the build tbh
shadow basin
for lawbringer, would one bullet really matter that much?
i can see the importance with db but i'm not totally sold with lawbringer
red robin
The reload speed talents have use for the special loading
I like using scattershot and flechette on the lawbringer
Idk abt manstopper and flechette tho
thorn lark
for lawbringer, would one bullet really matter that much?
Maybe not. But reloading on a shotgun is kinda meh
red robin
Proper management of WS saves you point tax on reload talents
Because man I hate base special round loading
I think bleeds stack onslaught and cause more dmg to proc on bleed
Idk if that is the case
uncut pebble
Just carried an auric maelstrom with a fucking tac axe.
red robin
Damnn
uncut pebble
I can't believe this build actually works.
red robin
Lemme see the tac axe
red robin
I might fuck with it after agile gets added with new update
uncut pebble
I probably would've done better with unarmored on it instead of sprint eff, too.
red robin
Unarmored has its moments
I’ve yet to have one on my weapons
But still
It has its moments
uncut pebble
Time to try for ASS.
Not gonna use the tac axe build, though. That was very taxing on my brain, pun intended.
red robin
Bro broke the spacebar key chain dodging just to maintain kiting distance
uncut pebble
No. I pushed into the enemies.
I just kept critting over and over again and nothing really lived long enough to make me dodge, short of crushers.
red robin
Damn you built different
I can’t live without my WS dodge increase
I cannot wait to play with the duelling sword with two dodge range sliders, one being on mobility and the other defence
MK 5 duelling sword I think?
austere mica
Only one would affect dodges
red robin
I hate this world
austere mica
Or at least a given attribute of dodges
It wouldn’t make sense to scale something specific off of two stats
austere mica
Guh
red robin
The dream is back
Time to use a shitty single target dodge dancing weapon
The duelling swords are getting agile too, which refreshes dodge count on weakspot hit
Release infinite dodge knife my beloved friend
thorn lark
I just kept critting over and over again and nothing really lived long enough to...
Taxe is not the hero we want but the one we need
uncut pebble
Yup, an ogryn is currently griefing lobbies in my server area...
Time for my 13th block!
red robin
Ur so real for that
uncut pebble
Gobbling up ammo as a glugger is one thing, but literally depriving your team of resources is an entirely different animal.
red robin
I sometimes misclick opening a crate with full ammo
uncut pebble
I can function with low ammo on weapon spec, but I literally ran out of ammo 3 times because this creature grabs ammo to replace like 12 bullets he shot.
uncut pebble
I sometimes misclick opening a crate with full ammo
That's excusable as an accident, this guy was just being a turd.
Me and the zealout both ran on very little ammo for the entire mission.
The psyker, Emperor be praised, was using a staff, so she could actually snipe specialists.
uncut pebble
That tac axe run absolutely cooked my brain. Swapped to my zealout, decided I wanted to use hsword, and got absolutely fucking demolished every single time I turned around.
balmy flume
The psyker, Emperor be praised, was using a staff, so she could actually snipe s...
Whenever I play psyker to farm penance I make it a point to use staff lol.
I like the flame one, though I might switch over to lightning to match the blitz and a Shock Maul I have that has the electric damage bonus
dapper agate
Well this is gonna be awkward when they finally add hotshot volley guns.
I'm not sure how useful hot-shot blessing will be, might be decent, although I don't much like the helbore weapons since the sights are ass and same for weapon draw time.
earnest bone
Well this is gonna be awkward when they finally add hotshot volley guns.
I'm n...
Are you on PC? Change the sights via mod
dapper agate
Are you on PC? Change the sights via mod
I am, but the devs could also just add the ability to change the sights.
earnest bone
or they could also abandon the idea since the mod already doing the job, unless they also want console players to enjoy it
they did added some fan mods in VT2 to the core game, but its a rare event
woeful ibex
Well this is gonna be awkward when they finally add hotshot volley guns.
I'm n...
so headshots have AOE?
meager topaz
Pass or keep?
balmy flume
Pass or keep?
(I am…tempted…to say if you are looking for a high damage pistol, you might as well go Bolt pistol. Higher base damage and bigger clip size.)
tough tiger
balmy flume
I admit, if you want the revolver for style, then yes, nothing beats it 😅
uncut pebble
(I am…tempted…to say if you are looking for a high damage pistol, you might as w...
See, that'd make sense, if not for revolvers having access to hand cannon and surgical, thereby having higher overall damage.
Also, agripinaa revolvers have a speedloader, so they reload all at once.
And they do silly things for vet, like 1 cylinder-ing a boss.
balmy flume
Huh, good points…I may well invest into one for my PSword Sergeant build.
(Right now a part of the reason I run PSword/Bolt Pistol is kind of a joke referencing the tabletop; almost every Guard sergeant will be taking the upgrades to those from the Chainsword/Laspistol they start with)
(Sadly for some odd reason, tabletop Guard rarely uses stub pistols)
uncut pebble
Just know that the zarona is the ADS model and the agripinaa is the cowboy model.
balmy flume
Thanks for the heads up on that.
dapper agate
Just know that the zarona is the ADS model and the agripinaa is the cowboy model...
Now all we need is the akimbo model and we can play as Revolver Ocelot
balmy flume
Now all we need is the akimbo model and we can play as Revolver Ocelot <:KEKW_og...
“BEHOLD…THE GUNS OF THE LOYALISTS!”
“BANG!”
balmy flume
Incidentally I want to point out an irony I found.
The easiest way to farm MF kills for the penance.
Are actually spray and pray weapons…
drowsy aspen
Are actually spray and pray weapons…
Eh, recon lasgun at head level doesn't involve so much prayer
balmy flume
Eh, recon lasgun at head level doesn't involve *so* much prayer
Actually is what I am using so yes, true
Another 1000 to go…
viscid sparrow
I will miss Vanguard's current effect once the big update drops... Having better sprint efficiency is just too good to have on chainsword vet, and I don't really want to waste a curio slot for longer sprint time...
midnight totem
I will miss Vanguard's current effect once the big update drops... Having better...
I posted on the forums asking them not to change it
you should too!
viscid sparrow
you should too!
I don't really dare to do so... I am too socially insecure to post a complaint about it...
radiant chasm
The easiest way to farm MF kills for the penance.
Lawbinger
kind otter
looking forward to heavy sword on both vet and psyker, can 1 shot headshot muties with heavy sweeps and no special activations needed for crazy horde clear
pastel yew
think zealot can one tap em with a crit
pearl sapphire
What’s the best infantry lasgun rn
pastel yew
but yeah vet about to get
a load of other classes weapons
then use them objectively better than those classes
elder fiber
don't even need a crit for mutie 1tap but yeah vet def gonna rock it harder
pearl sapphire
Getting the saber on vet is gonna be fun
Vets getting saber? Goated
pastel yew
including a melee weapon from the literal "MeLeE" class
merry oak
Vets getting saber? Goated
Yea melee and ranged weapons between vet, zealot and psyker are interchangeable soon ish
pastel yew
probably not the ranged weapons
pearl sapphire
Okay great
pastel yew
like flamer, plasma etc
elder fiber
nah psykers got old shotties and zealots get recon (lmao)
thats it for ranged I think
kind otter
psyker finally getting shotguns, but will be overshadowed by gunkers going high rof for infinite scriers gaze
elder fiber
oh and braced on psyker my b
merry oak
What’s the best infantry lasgun rn
Mg 4 if you got a macro.
elder fiber
just get autofire mod for mg4
merry oak
Cause FOR SOME REASON fat fish devs can't implement. A single, burst and automatic fire selection
pearl sapphire
Can’t, on ecksbawx
pastel yew
just get autofire mod for mg4
autofire mod should be base game
basic QoL accessability
merry oak
I just have it on my mouse lol
pastel yew
especially when weapons like the mg4 and laspistol 2 exist
elder fiber
yeah a lot of things should be base game
kind otter
just get autofire mod for mg4
kantreal mk 4 is my favorite recon lasgun
merry oak
kantreal mk 4 is my favorite recon lasgun
Facts
elder fiber
It was my fav too before recon buffs
pastel yew
I forgor which one I use for the recon
the fastest firing one
infinite ammo machine
highest single target dps
mk II?
the recon buffs were good though
I think the recons are a little overtuned on vet currently but not massively so
kind otter
I think 6 is the fastest recon
pastel yew
maybe the 6 then, been a while since I used
merry oak
The kantreal lasguns need bayonet
kind otter
Psykers getting 4% peril quell on non warp ranged crit, so we're about to see some pretty ridiculous scriers uptime on recon lasgun gunkers
lyric dock
SG's build are gonna be eating good and hell Staff SG is gonna become quite viable
umbral scaffold
god i love the mark 3 lucious
red robin
Damn
I tried that on psyker the other day
Man getting damage and finesse is a fun mechanic
tawny badger
how cooked is this recon
terse idol
how cooked is this recon
Speedloader bad, stability bad
tawny badger
Speedloader bad, stability bad
terse idol
I think it's burnt, maxed stability is useless
Would just take speedloader for blessing fodder
For itemization update
terse idol
2nd very good stats which will get better for itemization update
Blessings are good, (there might be better but they're good)
I dunno enough about the perks to comment however
Or well it's good
tawny badger
thank you smudgels
faint beacon
Okay so you can work with this
Deathspitter to Headhunter imo
and the Unyield to like Flak?
you win!
terse idol
Deathspitter to Headhunter imo
Talking with azrael appearently HH isn't that much of a dps increase
Better to run straight damage 
terse idol
last parcel
reciprocity is enough
delicate hornet
headhunter doesnt provide much of a bonus to critchance as the description implies
recon builds tend to be built around high critchance wich resets the bonus from headhunter so it ends up being under 5% crit iirc
red robin
I swore by the vraks 7 being the funnest head popper, but damn do the Agripinaa MK 9 go hard
faint beacon
Agri IX users rise
red robin
I used the weapon customization mod to make it look like a m16
Just to enjoy the burst fire more
God mods are amazing
There’s one that makes sprinting hybrid and reset if forward key is pressed
last parcel
agri ix is more of an AN 94
faint beacon
Waiting for Itemization for this one
red robin
agri ix is more of an AN 94
Good point
last parcel
i save m16 for vraks iii
faint beacon
Bought this and im just holding onto it
red robin
The other one would be fitting
faint beacon
Give it an AK styled barrel
thats the best way I can really explain making an AN-94 on Dt of all places lmao
red robin
Yeah I can see it being doable
There’s a lot of wiggle room
Also, I played a run of darktide and my headphones died during a run
Man audio design is insane for spatial awareness
Literally felt like a schizophrenic turning around every two seconds because I know for a fact a disabler was plotting for my downfall
Like my aim was worse because the sound of ranged units readying a shot makes me vindictive and makes my aim better from sheer distain over their smug smiles pelting me behind cover
red robin
Also the sound cue of a incoming melee attack is such a grace
Vermintide 2 and Darktide are literally a different PvE beast that hits my dopamine with how much the game design blends together
tawny badger
I WANT THESE KARKERS DEAD
unrelated note, voice of command is a bit silly w/ tactical awareness and I love it
tawny badger
Literally felt like a schizophrenic turning around every two seconds because I k...
playing darktide without headphones is truly a miserable experience
red robin
Spatial sound is the greatest innovation of technology
muted prairie
unrelated note, voice of command is a bit silly w/ tactical awareness and I love...
oh baby when the dogs start swarming and you just get to keep mashing the CLOSE, KILL AND DO IT AGAIN button, that's good shit
red robin
I hate the specialists so much that I can divine their exact location just from their sounds
dreamy spade
me when I hear the tox bomber "COME OUT, COME OUT"
I run across the whole map just to kill them
Hiding pussies
red robin
Lmao that’s my favourite part of infiltrate, run into them and gore them
The worst part abt that tho is if you get disabled that’s the hot wash of shame for fucking up and putting the team in a bad spot
idle swallow
they're just practicing for the update
tawny badger
I've just been busting my ass for 10 minutes trying to clutch as the last guy remaining and right before I can revive my allies a chaos spawn busted out of the wall
arctic rampart
Did you let the emp down?
orchid hemlock
I've just been busting my ass for 10 minutes trying to clutch as the last guy re...
Just play norms
4HEAD
tawny badger
Did you let the emp down?
red robin
Bro is an op and a professional hater
faint beacon
How it feels when a CS busts out of a wall and you're solo clutching
actual fucking OP
red robin
One thing I hate about chaos spawns is their tiny head and frantic movement
last parcel
so juiced that i cant tell if i want to kill my ops or fuck em
red robin
Rip the weakspot dmg
orchid hemlock
I'm starting to think that farming is more efficient on norms now.
Since there are soo many trash PUBS on auric trying to get a fucking orange colored title, you will complete more games on norms at a much faster rate, therefore more mats.
red robin
Yeah
red robin
I just go in with 3 ordo docket gains and quick play
faint beacon
you get around 60k ordos
normal damn with em is like 40-50k
Normal Damn I use for mat grinding
Plasteel-Diamantine
red robin
Yeah
I keep doing the dumb thing and use my crafting mats to twerk stats and blessings I want to use
Twerk lmao, tweak
tawny badger
Just play norms
I was playing normal damnation (hi-intensity hunting grounds)
onyx nacelle
Build for Scout Laz Gun MK 7 + Chain Sword (Cadia mk13) + Krak nades?
last parcel
Build for Scout Laz Gun MK 7 + Chain Sword (Cadia mk13) + Krak nades?
you can use something like this
deathspitter + dumdum on the recon lasgun
wrath + shred/rampage on the chainsword
onyx nacelle
you can use something like this
deathspitter + dumdum on the recon lasgun
wrath ...
ok thx
arctic rampart
isnt it just sat & sun has more people with busy lives that have some free time to game
(RE: incompetent pugs)
onyx nacelle
you can use something like this
deathspitter + dumdum on the recon lasgun
wrath ...
just in case i like chainswords because they can deal with Carapace armor pretty good with alternative attack + ok against hordes
arctic rampart
you should just man up and carry harder instead of weaseling your strategy
arctic rampart
if you want guaranteed quality you queue with them otherwise take what the emp gives oyu
junior ingot
Any thoughts on Covering Fire? Been using it for a while now and gotta say, watching my Psyker or Orgyn going to full Toughness in 2 seconds flat when they are getting swamped feels good since I'm keeping em alive
tame lodge
Some folks did some math and classified it as underwhelming
tawny badger
I fucking love Covering Fire
tame lodge
+every class has ways of Regen during horde
red robin
Man I love having a support build using born leader and tunnel vision stacked up
tawny badger
+every class has ways of Regen during horde
ok but
fuck I can't find a gif for it
tame lodge
Look at all that toughness
red robin
Using a las pistol with reassuringly accurate with deadshot is tons of toughness generated with confirmed kill and exhilarating takedown
terse idol
Any thoughts on Covering Fire? Been using it for a while now and gotta say, watc...
I'm not crazy on it, but it's a funny meme, the problem being iirc toughness regain is based off of base toughness
Not toughness + curios
tawny badger
they should uncap toughness for like a day
terse idol
You just run like
Glory hunter on a plasma gun, covering fire and the other toughness share stuff
And you can give back some toughness
But VOC is gonna cover the majority of all toughness gain and damage reduction
red robin
Born leader is based off your regen, with a big toughness pool it’ll grant 15% of what you get to your teammates
terse idol
Born leader is based off your regen, with a big toughness pool it’ll grant 15% o...
Wait I thought it was still based off of your baseline toughness
tawny badger
does that mean I don't become a toughness dispenser with born leader + exhilirating takedown
red robin
And tunnel vision amplifies the gain by 50-75%
terse idol
You can't just stack 3x toughness curios
terse idol
does that mean I don't become a toughness dispenser with born leader + exhilirat...
You're a toughness dispenser from VOC alone
The issue I see with this is
red robin
Yeah but more
terse idol
Alot of damage sources
Can also just delete your toughness
With only over-toughness being enough to mitigate the full damage from sources like snipers or burster
So I mean it's cool to keep your allies topped off from chip damage
red robin
It adds up
terse idol
Not as much as VOC already provides
red robin
I bet the psykers on my team appreciate it despite not noticing it
terse idol
Hmmmm
elder fiber
nah psykers got busted toughness generation
red robin
It adds to the overheal of shout and born leader works even if you’re full toughness
It’s a fun build for warrior priest vibes
It’s an option that’s fun for me
I remember using power DI and I healed 80k toughness from born leader alone
Encourages coherency play too
terse idol
I mean it's fun
Glory hunter and all the toughness share nodes
And VOC and the talent that reduces voc off elite kill
junior ingot
I'm not crazy on it, but it's a funny meme, the problem being iirc toughness reg...
Yeah, I got that part since I use the mod that lets me view exact numbers for HP and Toughness. So far, it kinda works for me since I used the Torrent-Type Recon Lasgun to mow down entire hordes around em quickly. Here's my current build atm.
Weapons are Torrent-Recon Lasgun with Crit % on Weakspot Hit. Been mowing down hordes and killing Elites/Ogryns and Bosses with this. Granted its reduced damage but the value of keeping the team constantly topped off had been paying off
red robin
True, las pistol is the freest toughness regen blessing just from crit kills
terse idol
I feel like problematically
Most runs end because you took burst damage in a single instance that people couldn't react to
Waaa!
red robin
Trueee
Still ain’t stopping me
One can argue the best support build is the guy who has the damage to nuke specials and shooters
red robin
Las pistol has insane finesse properties with crit and headshots
Marksmen focus is a nice branch with tunnel vision
Hard thing to manage is 15 stacks of MF with tunnel vision giving 75% toughness replenishment
terse idol
Me as I play ilas exclusively to delete all the ranged units on the map
Me as a One (1) crusher comes in
red robin
Which is unique from the toughness regen curio that only affects coherency regen
Tunnel visions toughness boost applies to all sources of toughness replenishment
I wonder if there’s a better generator than exhilarating takedown and reassuringly accurate which can be freely farmed off chaff
Because glory hunter and confirmed kill only apply to elite kills and ammo on revolver is sparse
balmy flume
700 kills to go…
faint beacon
On the discussion of toughness battery you tend to want to run 3 toughness curios so you can give your team as much toughness from Born Leader as possible
it sounds insane but its beyond fucking helpful
lyric dock
Vets generally want to run Toughness Curios anyways
Because it gives them more toughness to abuse Iron will
lyric dock
Iron will gets nerfed vet mains will complain
If anything gets nerfed someone is gonna complain about no matter how minor it is or how justified it is
faint beacon
I do like the idea that Veteran is a toughness focused class though
red robin
Yeah, three toughness curios averaging a hypothetical 250 + 50 from shout is 300 toughness, RA blessing 16% (48/84), ET talent 15% (45/78).
84 and 78 is from 15 stacks of MF giving an 75% increase from tunnel vision, that’s 162 toughness per critical headshot kill, the 15% from born leader generates 24.3 toughness for every teammate per chaff critical weakspot kill.
My math might be severely off
tawny badger
man that's a lot of numbers
faint beacon
Yeah, three toughness curios averaging a hypothetical 250 + 50 from shout is 300...
Its usuall the % off the total you have and then whatever is simply % off the Base added on
so your's might be bloated slightly
red robin
True
faint beacon
basically expect small numbers not big numbers
red robin
Math was never my thing
All I know is born leader generated 80k toughness alone in a match based off power DI tracking its numbers, its the little numbers that add up to that big tally
sharp trail
do i want flak/elite or flak/maniac on the mk4 chainsword
faint beacon
its good with toughness generating builds
faint beacon
do i want flak/elite or flak/maniac on the mk4 chainsword
Flakiac
Elite is better on Knives or Plasma
sharp trail
thank you
red robin
All I’m saying, I’m coping hard and just want easier games for the randys I am queued with
I call it the babysitter build
faint beacon
Simply improve upon one's own skill so you can hard carry and it just feels casual
red robin
I just want my teammates to stick it through and not leave once they go down
It’s lonely carrying at the top
I want shared success amongst my teams
idle swallow
I do shock-trooper helbore mk2 with either kraks or psword if I can't trust teammates to do literally anything
faint beacon
Well
That’s still useable
Get Flak and Dumdum as your others and you have a good Graia
Fuck the CIAG
Stupid gun
last parcel
ciag can giag on my coc
tawny badger
man I am dogshit at psyker
hasty meteor
What else should I alter on this?
lyric dock
That’s still useable
Ain't gonna use it at all.
balmy flume
238 to go for MFp penance.
Then I only have to do 111 Adept Assassin kills (changed in the middle of it)
Then I Finally would have completed all Vet Penances lol
lyric dock
Just nice to see a actually decent gun on my damn vet
faint beacon
Ain't gonna use it at all.
Itemization?
lyric dock
Since my Psyker is hogging all of them
faint beacon
I’ve been rolling a bunch of 380s on Vet
lyric dock
Itemization?
Ain't my playstyle to spray and pray To the emperor
faint beacon
None of them being weapons I use
lyric dock
A handful of clean las pistol shots does well and I benefit from shock trooper making that ammo last longer
faint beacon
You’d probably like the ILGs
faint beacon
Helbore?
faint beacon
Oh thank the throne you have taste
Me who is religious about using the Agri IX HHA
Path thinks I’m fucking insane
I simply just like it
last parcel
you're still insane tbf
lyric dock
Can't wait for Crafting rework so I can improve this
delicate hornet
having everything except mobility at 80% also hits a lot of breakpoints
mainly bruisers iirc
been trying to roll a rashad and ive kept each one that dumps mobility in hopes itemization will improve them x)
last parcel
You’re just MAD
no you’re just insane
lyric dock
having everything except mobility at 80% also hits a lot of breakpoints
I'm just hoping it doesn't get nerfed
faint beacon
no you’re just insane
last parcel
Can't wait for Crafting rework so I can improve this
you just do flak —> unarmoured and it’s great right now lol
faint beacon
Hes hating my Agri IX swagger
delicate hornet
I'm just hoping it doesn't get nerfed
from the notes theyve released so far its getting a buff to its heavy attack but no nerfs in sight (yet)
last parcel
Cause I still top score 🖕
this is not mutually exclusive with insanity
faint beacon
It is thank you
lyric dock
from the notes theyve released so far its getting a buff to its heavy attack but...
So far outside of some minor Ogryn skill tree changes. No real weapon nerfs
faint beacon
You go insane when you start realizing you’re carrying frequently
trim steppe
from the notes theyve released so far its getting a buff to its heavy attack but...
Honestly crazy its getting a buff lol, one of the strongest weapons in the game. Not that I'm mad
lavish token
I'm just hoping it doesn't get nerfed
It should
I wonder if in a year the power scale will push the difficulty into malice
delicate hornet
Honestly crazy its getting a buff lol, one of the strongest weapons in the game....
its minor but yeah lmao
tall torrent
Path thinks I’m fucking insane
No I think ur alr
I still think the recoil on it is ass
trim steppe
its minor but yeah lmao
Might be cuz its so hard to make a good one. Even a slightly imperfect one is drastically worse. Once the rework comes and it is easy to have a good one, it will probably see a nerf
shadow urchin
Hey, I am trying to come up with more "Do this one thing" penances as opposed to all they grindy ones we got in the last batch. Any thoughts/suggestions on these?
Logistics. Restore 50% of your teams total Ammo and 75% of their grenades with a single field improvised ammo crate.
Triage. Heal X toughness with a single field improvised medicpak.
Moral Support. Heal X toughness in a single match (doesn't count overtoughness)
Militarum intelligence. Resolve a faulty interrogator during one activation of Infiltrate.
Emperor’s Helping Hand: Revive/Rescue X teammates using infiltrate. (Okay, this one might be a bit grindy)
Combat Prowess. Deal X damage in y seconds after using any combat ability.
Cadia Stands. Complete a map with 2 wounds and 2 grimoires on heresy or above.
Big Game Hunter. Kill X Ogryns in a single activation of Executioner Stance.
Krak Shot: Kill 2 or more Ogryns with a single Krak Grenade.
I would really like to come up with more "Skillful" ones (relatively speaking). Is there anything ya'll have done that was a particularly skillful one-off vet-specific thing?
tall torrent
Penances?
faint beacon
Yup
shadow urchin
Yep! Sorry, revised it
faint beacon
He dropped map focused ones in #theorycrafting
last parcel
me trying to do cadia stands with 3 wounds on malice
shadow urchin
Ah, right, doy
solemn niche
THINK FAST: you turn a corner and find 3 ragers waiting for you. what do u do ?
faint beacon
VOC
faint beacon
That or PA with the Caxe
faint beacon
ME WIN
tall torrent
That or PA with the Caxe
Without HT stacks u only stagger 2
faint beacon
Without HT stacks u only stagger 2
Jokes on you I always run HT
tall torrent
Jokes on you I always run HT
I mean it as in, if u don’t have any stacks at that moment (just entering combat)
mortal orbit
Hey, I am trying to come up with more "Do this one thing" penances as opposed to...
The grindy penances should be separated into solo missions. Felt like an ass trying to grind out the smokes on auric
mortal orbit
Or difficult rooms.
faint beacon
Block some of the attacks then as well seeing I’ll get stacks from it
The PA
that is
solemn niche
other acceptable answer is parrygod the ragers with a combat sword
tall torrent
Block some of the attacks then as well seeing I’ll get stacks from it
Tbh
Dodge slide back, get some distance, run back a bit then u can fight
tall torrent
I hope they tweak rager spawns at some point maybe this upcoming patch
If they’re not gonna nerf them individually
faint beacon
I don’t mind it too much
solemn niche
actually now that they buff the combat axe can you oneshot a rager with heavy attack headshot ?
tall torrent
actually now that they buff the combat axe can you oneshot a rager with heavy at...
With +25% maniac yeah
trim steppe
I honestly like current iteration ragers
mortal orbit
Shredder nades knock down a giant pack of ragers, bleed dot + boom make them alot easier to manage.
solemn niche
With +25% maniac yeah
this is huge. if you can get the oneshot brutal momentum comes into play
tall torrent
this is huge. if you can get the oneshot brutal momentum comes into play
Needs crit tho
last parcel
limbsplitter
trim steppe
ragers are either no problem at all or a BIG effing problem lol it makes things spicy
solemn niche
everybody gangsta till 20 ragers roll up
mortal orbit
Theyre like termites. They aint been dealt with the house comes crashing down
But the hist rager spawns need to remain untouched. It feels staple to the experience at this point.
Along the lines of 3 trappers in a row
trim steppe
I like seeing a squadmate getting bullied by 2-3 ragers and being able to come in behind and lay them out, it makes me feel like a good teammate
last parcel
boom, back shots
idle swallow
I've been liking chaxe more and more with these rager spawns since the light attack stuns their dumb asses pretty consistently
mortal orbit
They got green knobbies on their back for shootin
tall torrent
But the hist rager spawns need to remain untouched. It feels staple to the exper...
If no spawn change then their attacks need to be tuned down
idle swallow
Mission modifier where all basic grunts above poxwalkers are replaced with ragers
tall torrent
I've been liking chaxe more and more with these rager spawns since the light att...
Yea 1 at a time
That’s the thing most weapons aren’t designed to handle multiple ragers at once
idle swallow
That's when you bring in the lethal proximity nades
faint beacon
Lethal Prox Shredders with Grenade Tinkerer
last parcel
shadow urchin
If they’re not gonna nerf them individually
Each Rager spawned gets their own, unique nerf.
mortal orbit
Each rager gets severe anxiety when in 2m of reject unless in a group of 10 or more.
That final event be final
hot whale
I relate to this on a spiritual level
last parcel
please helmp how do i adept assassin penance
use high damage single shot gun (zarona revolver, plasma, headhunter, etc)
stab 3 people
shoot specialist/elite in head
repeat
upbeat snow
bolt pistol?
tall torrent
please helmp how do i adept assassin penance
which penance is that
last parcel
weapon specialist
last parcel
bolt pistol?
if you want
upbeat snow
kill 250 specs/elites with crit weakspot hits while wep specialist is active
upbeat snow
if you want
👍
tall torrent
kill 250 specs/elites with crit weakspot hits while wep specialist is active
knife + columnus/zarona
upbeat snow
why knife?
last parcel
melee kills count and knife has a high crit rate
upbeat snow
chainaxe not good for this task?
last parcel
i just took whatever melee since shooting heads was enough for me
serene bough
MK6 is better imo
upbeat snow
bless/perks?
frank ether
faint beacon
Truly me and @tall torrent’s magnum opus
pearl sapphire
What lasgun is the best? I know it’s not the hellbore (sadge) so I’m not even gonna argue for that
serene bough
all of them are pretty good, i prefer iLas
pearl sapphire
Hell, are the laspistols any good?
elder fiber
mk2 is good
serene bough
the mk2 is fine
pearl sapphire
Been kinda disappointed with the bolt pistol
serene bough
the other one is kind of lacking
tall torrent
What lasgun is the best? I know it’s not the hellbore (sadge) so I’m not even go...
helbore is good
balmy flume
Right finally got the MF penance.
Will be quite a bit before I can finish the last one.
radiant chasm
Been kinda disappointed with the bolt pistol
yea
radiant chasm
What lasgun is the best? I know it’s not the hellbore (sadge) so I’m not even go...
helbores are great and ammo efficient, they jsut need practice
mkIa for infantry lasguns and then recons go ask vet chat, but all of them have their uses
faint beacon
mkIa for infantry lasguns and then recons go ask vet chat, but all of them have ...
Bandit
This is the vet chat
faint beacon
Zealot chat that’s all I’m saying lmao
faint beacon
You’re good
delicate hornet
What lasgun is the best? I know it’s not the hellbore (sadge) so I’m not even go...
recon mkvid is very very good at shredding just about anything with the correct build
somber axle
Idk if there's a best lasgun for any of them tbh. They're all good at different things
faint beacon
WHOS TYPING
YOU
Whenever she speaks in here you basically hear a clown horn start playing and comedy immediately follows suit
unique orchid
vet chat is quite silly, most of the time it's stuff like "how's my gun/melee" or "is x on the mourningstar x?" and sometimes its like "we need to discuss lotara saryn and her washboard abs IMMEDIATELY for TWO HOURS"
faint beacon
Zealot chat is 90% off topic
unique orchid
if zealot chat wasnt at least a third theology and random related bullshit i would be disappointed
tall torrent
I finally finished the weapons section in my guide
somber axle
Mg1a is highest damage but also goes through ammo fastest while Mk IV is the infinite ammo iLas. XII exists for the very obscure niche of lower investment to reach breakpoints vs the Mg1a at the cost of slower fire rate putting DPS way behind the other variants
Helbores are all good dogs bront but I personally prefer the Mk II for how funny it gets with Exe Stance
Oh and the Recon thing
faint beacon
I finally finished the weapons section in my guide
After years of development
Hopefully
It has been worth the wait
tall torrent
After years of development
In preparation for next patch
faint beacon
True just hold onto it for now
tall torrent
It has been worth the wait
faint beacon
Cough up the HHA section right now mister
tall torrent
Cough up the HHA section right now mister
somber axle
Recon Mk II: Ammo efficiency
Recon Mk VId: Armour piercing with Onslaught
Recon Mk VIIa: Cleave
They're all very fun. Recon Mk II feels good if you are trying to use a Recon more like an Infantry Lasgun. VIIa is fun for mowing down crowds. VId is full all around with a funny build and just sorta shreds anything you put in front of it
faint beacon
Saving this
tall torrent
Saving this
what do u think abt the presentation
unique orchid
it's an impressive and eye-pleasing dataslate
faint beacon
what do u think abt the presentation
Tickles the brain
It’s good
Staple of Vet chat basically where we tend to get straight into the stats
unique orchid
the template could have a slightly more pronounced division between the marks, like a white line or whatnot - but quite good
faint beacon
Also I’m surprised Agri 9’s monster isn’t a tinsy bit more though I haven’t tested it’s performance vs 7
tall torrent
I tried really hard to squeeze all the necessary info for a weapon family in 1 page
faint beacon
I just know 9 and 3 shred boss Weakspot hits
tall torrent
Also I’m surprised Agri 9’s monster isn’t a tinsy bit more though I haven’t test...
It’s because even though u can 1 mag a boss, the overall TTK is pretty long (compared to top performers), and it’s extremely reliant on deadly accurate + weakspot hits
tall torrent
U kind of don’t get that time luxury in actual games
faint beacon
You’re talking about body hits as well
tall torrent
Well not necessarily
If boss is targeting u, u get easier headshots, but it’s also safer to just melee
faint beacon
U kind of don’t get that time luxury in actual games
Literally unless it’s Plogryn or BoN you’ll rarely hit headshots on a small or very frantically moving target
tall torrent
If boss isn’t targeting u, u need stagger to get easier headshots
But you can’t hold boss stagger long enough for mk9HH to do high damage
tall torrent
It is rated a bit higher because mk9 actually kills things in 1 burst often
Mk3 tends to need 2 bursts
unique orchid
how do you feel about the mk10 Heavy Laspistol mister 95571
tall torrent
Battle of mid
tall torrent
No
faint beacon
I literally never noticed
tall torrent
If u mod u can make Vraks 3 & 7 have same zoom as 9
tall torrent
But normally Vraks 3 & 7 have the highest ads zoom in the game
unique orchid
i mostly use it due to preference, i like the slower firerate
tall torrent
The problem with mk10 is like
faint beacon
That’s why
unique orchid
though it REALLY doesnt do a lot if you dont hit heads with the mk10
faint beacon
Was a pistol
tall torrent
unique orchid
4 headshots? i run deadshot and it only takes a headshot and bodyshot
faint beacon
4 headshots? i run deadshot and it only takes a headshot and bodyshot
Yeah but that’s with Deadshot
tall torrent
4 headshots? i run deadshot and it only takes a headshot and bodyshot
U can build it to crit 1HS flamers
And deadshot is kinda like
Peak copium
unique orchid
thats fair
faint beacon
A lot of hemorrhaging guns tend to need Deadshot
tall torrent
I’d rather take reciprocity over deadshot
And I don’t even play reciprocity most of the time
faint beacon
Back when Recon was absolutely dogshit
You had to use Deadshot
Now it’s kind of a
Oh you can use it if you want
serene bough
back when recon was dogshit you had to use everything
faint beacon
What a rollercoaster of a gun lmao
serene bough
had to turbo damage your weapon just to get minimum performance
unique orchid
i can and will pull my beta company helmet on you young man, i know the game
tall torrent
I’m gonna hold off on blessing section until update drops
Need a whole revision on that
unique orchid
doing the emperor's work 955 🙏
tall torrent
faint beacon
Can’t wait to do heavy testing!
unique orchid
i feel like theyre gonna add another couple weapons with UnL
tall torrent
i feel like theyre gonna add another couple weapons with UnL
I think that’ll be somewhere like December patch lol
U&L has a lot of stuff already
unique orchid
mostly just a guess based on the name Unlocked and Loaded
faint beacon
I think
Path is just going to update this one as updates drops
I think in my personal opinion
tall torrent
Itemization rework
Weapon variant merge
Mastery system
Psyker talent tree expansion
Tons of weapon changes
New mission (train)
faint beacon
We should call this the Guardsman Handbook
tall torrent
Path is just going to update this one as updates drops
Yea I was playing wukong for 2 weeks
last parcel
journey to the west hive city
tall torrent
Now that the update balance stuff is out I’m continuing
faint beacon
Okay fair
unique orchid
Itemization rework
Weapon variant merge
Mastery system
Psyker talent tree expans...
Oh right, I didnt realize half of this was in UnL
very cool!
elder fiber
the laceration dissertation
frank monolith
What does UnL mean
unique orchid
Unlocked and Loaded - Update in like, 2 weeks?
tall torrent
18 days
faint beacon
What does UnL mean
New update here soon
Look I know
There’s going to be a DS4 meta
I’m STILL GOING TO USE THE HEAVY SWORDS
YOU CANT KARKIN STOP ME
unique orchid
i am going to continue to use my shovel and chainsword
tall torrent
Can’t wait for damnation QP vet to load in with a DS4 + recon and do <200k damage
faint beacon
i am going to continue to use my shovel and chainsword
Itemization might make them really damn good Tbf
unique orchid
hope so
faint beacon
Can’t wait for damnation QP vet to load in with a DS4 + recon and do <200k damag...
Me who still out damaged them cause I refuse to not use the Agri 9
Lmao
tall torrent
i am going to continue to use my shovel and chainsword
Nah after patch I’d suggest going Rashad
unique orchid
Can’t wait for damnation QP vet to load in with a DS4 + recon and do <200k damag...
Can't wait to see them throw a krak and still get hit by crusher overhead and insta-leave
tall torrent
U can make actual good rolls of super strong weapons (that are very roll dependent)
tall torrent
Maybe even heavy swords
Heavy sword will be cool
But I hate the uppercut swings
unique orchid
i play darktide to be johnathan guardsman
faint beacon
Heavy sword will be cool
But I hate the uppercut swings
I play Taxe 4
Do you think this bothers me
Lmao
last parcel
it's already established that you are insane
faint beacon
it's already established that you are insane
You’re Karkin insane
last parcel
never denied it
tall torrent
Do you think this bothers me
Day 1 update I’m locking in with godroll PS6 + boltpistol grenadier build
unique orchid
im gonna be honest i really wanna like the bistol, the recoil is too much - it's lore accurate but it is too much for my enjoyment
faint beacon
im gonna be honest i really wanna like the bistol, the recoil is too much - it's...
Okay hear me out
Look at that image
frank monolith
Day 1 update I’m locking in with godroll PS6 + boltpistol grenadier build
d1 im looking for a mk 6 knife and manstopper god roll
faint beacon
You can make the dumbest fucking grenadier build possible
tall torrent
I already have godroll plasma + combat axe waiting
faint beacon
God roll Agri 9
serene bough
god
frank monolith
Day 1 update I’m locking in with godroll PS6 + boltpistol grenadier build
btw im pretty sure you can buff the grenedier build with a weapon that has uncanny
faint beacon
Patiently waiting
serene bough
playing smite psyker was the most displeasurable experience ive ever had on this game
frank monolith
since you can make bleed nades or bolt pistol bleed do 100% rending
faint beacon
playing smite psyker was the most displeasurable experience ive ever had on this...
It’s so fucking boring isn’t it
Lmao
unique orchid
playing smite psyker was the most displeasurable experience ive ever had on this...
it's kinda boring innit
last parcel
playing smite psyker was the most displeasurable experience ive ever had on this...
very exciting
unique orchid
i run dual-shield brain-burst emp-psy psyker
serene bough
just have shield penance left then I can stop touching psyker for a while
i actually think i lost braincells using smite
tall torrent
btw im pretty sure you can buff the grenedier build with a weapon that has uncan...
It’s not really necessary because of 2 things
- Grenadier build needs a horde clear melee that also does well in monster damage (which shovel is not made for)
- The other uncanny melee weapons need pretty heavy melee spec which grenadier build can’t afford
last parcel
regular smite or ep smite
serene bough
empowered but still brain numbingly boring
unique orchid
i run dual-shield brain-burst emp-psy psyker
run this build hugz, it's probably the most brain-on class i have
my mind stimulates while using it
serene bough
ok ill try
unique orchid
the entire match you are basically trying to head-pop specials and put up shields where your team wont be riddled with holes or hit by specials
unique orchid
ok ill try
it's something like this
my veteran build meanwhile is as such:
but with tinker not covering fire
serene bough
it's something like this
tyvm ill try after i eat dinner
then i can return back to shootboy once im done
tall torrent
my veteran build meanwhile is as such:
but with tinker not covering fire
Wouldn’t suggest longshot tbh
last parcel
my veteran build meanwhile is as such:
but with tinker not covering fire
i willl shoot you first
no doctors
unique orchid
Wouldn’t suggest longshot tbh
i make ample use of it, i try to snipe shit with my mk10 every 3 seconds
frank monolith
my veteran build meanwhile is as such:
but with tinker not covering fire
do you want to try an action movie veteran build that im running 👀 it incluedes weapon spec and the hacker shotgun
unique orchid
elites entering my sightline at any range are getting shot
tall torrent
i make ample use of it, i try to snipe shit with my mk10 every 3 seconds
the issue is that it's not helping much most of the time
unique orchid
i willl shoot you first
explain
tall torrent
at 13m it's like +0.6% dmg
unique orchid
im aware
tall torrent
lol
faint beacon
It’s better to invest the point into oh I’d say
unique orchid
even so, it isnt falloff
faint beacon
Hm
tall torrent
u could put that point into 15% elite dmg
faint beacon
Superiority complex imo
tall torrent
works all the time
unique orchid
i will at least give it a shot, you're probably right
faint beacon
Honestly I’m surprised you’re not running a keystone
unique orchid
i simply dont need one
faint beacon
Especially WS if you’re swapping between shovel and pistol often
Hell I’m curious why you’re running grenade tinkerer on kraks
Boss busting?
unique orchid
Boss busting?
and breakpoint on ogryn since im not using bring it down
unique orchid
ah, either way it's more damage
faint beacon
We could invest it elsewhere
trim steppe
barrelled myself, derp rip
faint beacon
Let me look over it real quick
unique orchid
We could invest it elsewhere
i'm fine where it is, i chunk the fuck out of bosses
faint beacon
I’d say that’s really your only reason to keep it
Cause you could swap it for Bring it down
unique orchid
nah, im more of a human-size elite killer with kraks in case of oggies or bosses
that and toughness resupp
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I’m more so trying to figure out in the long run if it’s more effective for you to run
GT or BiD
Honestly it wouldn’t hurt to do some test runs
Also I respect leave no one behind talent
unique orchid
im not really interacting with ogryn much outside of throwing kraks at them, else i likely would use bring it down
tall torrent
Hell I’m curious why you’re running grenade tinkerer on kraks
it's a lot of boss dmg
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But you know what you could replace the node leading into that and the revive talent
Agile Engagement
That thing is really nice to run if you swap between pistol and melee frequently
I’m not too sure if you do it often though
Unsure how you play it
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I’m not too sure if you do it often though
they better start
unique orchid
Unsure how you play it
i'm usually middle of the pack with my pistol out, melee is for hordes and surprise rager jumpscares
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True…
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i'm usually middle of the pack with my pistol out, melee is for hordes and surpr...
So like the moment you see any ranged elite you swap
elder fiber
longshot more like longshit
umbral scaffold
unique orchid
So like the moment you see any ranged elite you swap
if im not being swarmed, yes, they are being shot on sight
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Yeah try AE
You might notice the difference
25% melee or ranged on swap for 5 seconds after getting whatever kill is
Really fucking good
unique orchid
i ran it on my old commissar build with the bistol
knee-deep in melee with chaff, swap and vaporize a special with a hipfire, back to swinging
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It might make your Laspistol feel actually like a space deagle
So I suggest giving it a try
But if you don’t like it revert back to the revive for support
unique orchid
i'll probably stick to support, i enjoy propping up the team
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i enjoy crippling the team
unique orchid
now that i think about it im almost running my commissar build, im just dressed as a Sgt
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Actively shoot barrels
oblique totem
You guys have teams?
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now that i think about it im almost running my commissar build, im just dressed ...
I have a commissar build if you want a toughness battery
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undercover commissar
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I just need to be home to send you it
unique orchid
i will definitely look at it, a bit later since i gotta go to work
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Toughness battery just being you generate the team an unhealthy amount of toughness
unique orchid
have a good evening gentlemen
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When are we getting hotshots?
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Toughness battery just being you generate the team an unhealthy amount of toughn...
oh no yeah thats basically my role now, that and killing specials
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When are we getting hotshots?
When shartshark blesses us
unique orchid
oblique totem
With the backpacks?
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With the backpacks?
Or maybe Aquilon style battery mags
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oh no yeah thats basically my role now, that and killing specials
I’ll toss you it when I’m home just check in here when you’re off
Me I’m currently working a solo shift and it’s extremely fucking dead
So here I am
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I wouldn't mind having bulbous battery mags like these
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Me