veteran-class

[lethal idol]

ok ok, i STARTED to have "proper" equipment

yes i did took a semi-auto on purpose , i HATE to run out of ammo, and long range shot are useful

[cobalt crest]

Have you considered a revolver though? It's more damage, has penetration, and is also pretty ammo efficient

[umbral scaffold]

GUN

[cobalt crest]

Basically the HH auto gun but better which is crazy man those things really need buffs

[lethal idol]

i previously did, but the reload on higher difficulty is really a prob

[cobalt crest]

Ok I don't wanna be a meta slave but like if you use get a power sword with power cycler and then use that for everything else and then just use the revolver for crushers and snipers and shit you really just need to reload like 1-2 bullets and you're fine

And then you're like every other vet

Cue the gif of all the buzz light-years on the toy rack

[lethal idol]

as for now, the chainsword is my most powerful melee weapon

still think that we should get the Meltagun though

[balmy flume]

Pistols are pretty much a backup.

The Voice of Command ability pretty much turns you into an...actual officer.

I run the "upgraded tabletop sergeant" (Psword + Bolt Pistol, Shredder nades) and pretty much never have ammo issues.

Maybe reload speed but I just reload whenever possible.

[runic peak]

What's the good single shot guns?

Not the hellbore

[cobalt crest]

Revolver, bolt pistol, lasguns, las pistol, plasma gun

[runic peak]

Vraks Mk VII right?

Yeah am after a single shot with Ghost, just forgot which one it is 😄

Also, which helbore is worth it?

[cobalt crest]

Idk iirc HH auto guns are kinda in a really bad spot rn

[runic peak]

Yeah I'm not doing it for full meta, just for fun times

Also I reckon Ghost is OP

[cobalt crest]

Idk which HH auto gun is the best but I think the mk III helbore is good

It's the slowest but has best damage and pen and one of vets abilities can help with the slowness iirc

[runic peak]

Especially on maps with like sniper gauntlet or extra gunners

[cobalt crest]

Onslaught? I think

Idk I don't play vet too much

[runic peak]

That?

[cobalt crest]

Nope nvm

[runic peak]

Or you mean this blessing?

[cobalt crest]

I'm ngl I have no idea my veteran is like level 16

[runic peak]

Haha fair enough

[cobalt crest]

This is just stuff I read a bit ago and am trying my best to remember

[runic peak]

Currently running with this, and it's nice, but it goes through ammo super fast which is annoying when the second and third bullet of each burst is wasted

[balmy flume]

I think for Hellbores people go for 2 or 3.

[runic peak]

Think I got a decent 2 somewhere

[balmy flume]

Nice

[urban steppe]

small question , in next update do we will be able to upgrade already owned weapons too or will be wipe there

[lusty sapphire]

We will be able to

[urban steppe]

heheheee than thats good i have so many good weapons with 80% stats meheheheh

[hollow turtle]

Guess it's time to put down the veteran for a bit and play something else.

[frank ether]

play zealot, its fun

if you're doing melee vet its just gonna feel like a natural upgrade anyway

[hollow warren]

why is it always the wrong stat in cases like this?

[crude fiber]

I telling you, mobility has the highest weight in the rng pool or somthing. I see all the time every item in brunt and melks shop all have near max mobility

[lyric dock]

On the bright side when maxed out you get a nice 60% damage on that pistol!

[marble mantle]

To be fair, those weapons are used and found, so there’s a reason why they were found without an owner. Max mobility doesn’t save lives lmfao

[uncut pebble]

This is true.

No amount of mobility is going to save you from The Blender. (12 dreg ragers)

[coarse wolf]

12 scab ragers: i sleep
6 dreg ragers: fear

[uncut pebble]

12 scab ragers just sounds like 1 mag of columnus to me.

[ocean idol]

that does not make any sense

[uncut pebble]

It does.

[coarse wolf]

scab ragers are a lot slower

like

a LOT

[uncut pebble]

Scab ragers have less hp and are slower to run and attack.

Dreg ragers have more hp and will absolutely blend you if you aren't prepared for them.

Hence why you fucking shoot them instead of fighting them in melee, as, unless you're using a dclaw or a knife, it isn't wise to engage them in melee.

[coarse wolf]

dreg ragers are actually the most annoying enemy in the game barring trappers

[uncut pebble]

Trappers honestly aren't that bad if the director isn't on crack.

[coarse wolf]

and maybe bursters

[uncut pebble]

Sometimes they prefire you and it sucks when they do.

[coarse wolf]

you ever have 6 of them spawn at the same time

[uncut pebble]

No.

But if I did, that sounds like 1 cylinder of my zarona.

(I am martyr zealout with max stacks and maniac on my zarona)

(1shot bodyshots)

[coarse wolf]

happened to me in the middle of a clutch attempt. went from unhit to "there are 8 of them" and dead

[uncut pebble]

Also that still sounds like the director is on crack.

So technically I didn't lie.

[coarse wolf]

true

[uncut pebble]

They are fine if the director isnt on crack.

I think I had the director bug out on my last HISTG maelstrom, though.

[coarse wolf]

the director needs to spawn more plebs. i want to stab more things in the face with a knife while sprinting at mach fuck

[uncut pebble]

It seemed to only spawn mutants.

You'd hear it spawn, watch it die, and then immediately hear another spawn.

So at any given time there was always at least one mutant the entire match.

[idle swallow]

Does anyone actually like the more mutants modifier for maelstroms, I don't think I've ever wanted to play it (except maybe dueling sword scrier psyker)

[analog mural]

I don't mind it, knives or Caxe trivialize waves of muties

[crimson pebble]

Knives rashad and psword can p easily mulch them aswell

[idle swallow]

Monstrous specials is my maelstrom home base rn

[ocean idol]

What you think of smoke spammers?

jsut had one in my game

i said his smokes are more harmful than helpful at this point

but other people disagreed

which is funny since i was psyker with 3 vets

so it was more harmful for them than for me

[idle swallow]

It's more of a meme but I don't mind it, smokes give a lot of the specials dumb brain when they enter the radius plus the shooter cover so it's generally more useful than not imo

[ocean idol]

But it also obscures your vision

which is really bad

Information is everything

[frank monolith]

Me smoke me go in smoke me kill without being snipe by snipers or shot at by any gunners me happy

Plus if i could i would take krak but i give up nodes that i prefer to keep so i take smoke

And if your in smoke you can see normally

[dreamy spade]

Imagine if rashad had rendering blessing

[pseudo fiber]

Gunners become stupid as fuck when you throw a smoke at them

[ocean idol]

post made by irl ogryn gang

[ocean idol]

"you are" you fuckn slab

[midnight totem]

The Emperor guides my shots

Bring on the smoke

[balmy flume]

I would say you should adapt to operating in smoke.

Sometimes it isn’t friendly spamming that is the issue

Tox bombs have the same effect

[ocean idol]

i would prefer my shots guided by eyes and auspexes, thank you very much
DOn't tihnk Emperor has clear view of what happens in my vicinity

Terrra is long away

[balmy flume]

Wait hang on I guess you are player gunker. in which case I would say always tag your targets.
Since the tag outline shows through smoke anyways

And, arguably speaking.

[ocean idol]

wat

Why would you assume so lmao

ALSO NO FUCK NSHIT

Every fuckn class spams tag

[midnight totem]

Clearly these are the words of one lacking in FAITH

[ocean idol]

Why you even bringing this up

[frank monolith]

Emperor guide my hands!

[ocean idol]

next time you tell me to hold left click to shoot

[midnight totem]

INQUISITOR! THIS ONE HERE

[ocean idol]

... so Emperor also guides your pp?

[frank monolith]

Whats the point of tagging when the thing your tagging is going to get 1 tap by a db

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[ocean idol]

db?

[balmy flume]

Well someone is angry lol.
But anyways, my last point was just about to say, I suspect it isn’t even smoke that is the issue here. If your Vets are running off in the smoke leaving you struggling in the smoked crowd, it’s a them problem.

[frank monolith]

New shotgun

[ocean idol]

Actually somethig like that did happen, yes

[midnight totem]

DB, double barrel

[frank monolith]

Rust?

[ocean idol]

But that raisises the question why i just don't stick with them

[oblique totem]

shot gun

[balmy flume]

I am guessing you have 3 officer Vets more geared for CQC as semi-zealots, and none of them remembered to cover you. Because I also play psyker for penances, and I know psykers can struggle to keep up with the team in movement, especially in dense enemy mobs.

The other half is knowing the map. I confess I never smoke and, regardless of hostile or friendly smoke, half the time I get out of the mess is because I know the map well enough that I don’t need to see where I am, to go where I want to go when smoke blocks my sight.

[ocean idol]

damn, sounds about right

Did not help that i was using Smite build

so i was pretty slow

But at least i did not need to aim

[balmy flume]

Yea, Smite is a stationary cannon.

Also unless you took the node to decrease peril on the move, you are forced to walk whilst doing so.

[ocean idol]

wait what node

never noticed it

there is no such node?

[balmy flume]

I think its Mind in Motion

[ocean idol]

You mean the one that increases ms when queliingh?

[balmy flume]

You can quell peril whilst running

If you take that

[somber axle]

As an Exe Stance user I love smoke spam

[balmy flume]

But back to your original gripe, if you are PUG’ing, all I could say about potential smoke spammers are the following…
(1) hope anyone else in the group remembers to cover you (even a fellow psyker)
(2) know the map well enough so that you don’t require sight to navigate (which can make a MASSIVE difference in areas with ledges and such)

[somber axle]

Smoke spam and squad highlight feel like a really fun combo but wow the point tax is awful to go with both

The smoke should be the cover

Would you walk out of a Psyker bubble and then be mad when no one deals with the gunners that turn you into cheese

[ocean idol]

Bruh, i never seen ANYONE covering anyone EVEN ONCE in all my playtime

Excpet me of course

because i am cool like that

and i nev er said navigation was a problem

[somber axle]

Almost no one engages with the suppression mechanic but it is pretty fun

[balmy flume]

Sad I never had the chance to PUG with you.
I realised long ago that if you cover the psyker well, the psyker will cover the team well.

[balmy flume]

It does make a difference in Melee - you panic less and can focus more on staying alive or dodging in the right direction (usually towards your teammates but depending on map or situation, you may want to go somewhere else - and if you know the map to walk around it even without sight, you spend less time thinking where that location is)

[frank monolith]

Not sure if Db has it but when a gunner is shooting at me i shoot at it once and it stops unless its blessed

[runic grove]

just burned 10k plasteel and still no power cycler 4 xd

[oblique totem]

I recall people were getting pretty heated about smoke spam a while back. That still a thing?

[balmy flume]

I think it’s more an unlucky blue moon kind of thing now.

I still run shreds myself.

[somber axle]

I can't remember the last time I saw someone run smokes in an Auric

[oblique totem]

Do you run smokes in an Auric?

[somber axle]

Vets feel like they're pretty exclusively running shredders or kraks

[crimson pebble]

By choice probably not for points yea i can see it

[oblique totem]

I run krak but I think that was just for a penance.

[balmy flume]

Smokes are still somewhat niche when it comes to Auric level. By that point you just want your enemies dead ASAP.

[somber axle]

If you see them suddenly stop shooting and begin to cower in place or run to cover then yea either you did heavy suppression as far as the cowering goes or you did light suppression and forced them to flee

[frank monolith]

Ye this is what seems to happen but they then die to the knife

[crimson pebble]

Shredder obv a preferred imo as kraks only real use in most builds are just boss dmg dump or bulwark clear

[balmy flume]

Kraks are really there for people who don’t have Chain/Power close quarters nor Revolver/Bolt/Plasma/Hellbore

Not to say anything else can’t take down a Crusher but…they take a LONG time.

(Far longer than you typically have in an Auric situation)

[supple stag]

I run kraks out of habit really

[somber axle]

Sometimes you just really want to play bowling for Crushers and toss a krak just to run into melee with 8 of them to see how many you can get to clip inside each other before it pops

Plus it's so much easier to save someone from an accidental daemonhost aggro

[hidden tree]

What's the difference between the 2 cadia chainswords

[plucky lichen]

theres a great interaction between Weapon's Specialist and the Ironhelm shotgun. the keystone modifioer which reloads your gun from melee kills will always reload one round, and since the ironhelm only has two. you can shoot/melee/shoot/melee repeatedly if theres a pesky horde on any difficulty

[plucky lichen]

movesets

[hidden tree]

No difference in the special move? It's still stick in and saw?

[plucky lichen]

yup

[somber axle]

IV has some wide heavies that are easily accessible and make good use out of Savage Sweep. It also gets a thrust attack with the push attack which is kinda fun

XIIIg has a Vanguard combo but to use Savage Sweep you'd need to spam it so generally it's easier to just go Wrath and spam lights W+M1 style

[hidden tree]

I like IV alot more. What's the best blessings for IV

Savage and crit or savage and bleed?

[radiant chasm]

Savage rampage

Or shred rampage (rampage gives power which gives cleave, the tooltip just says damage)

[hidden tree]

So does rampage increase damage and cleave or

@radiant chasm

[thin stone]

What all blessings do you want for VIIa Recon Lasgun? And what modifiers + perks

[frank monolith]

https://youtu.be/5CNMM7V-WJM?si=CN3rOgGX3lUcz7Kc you get manstopper and you practically hit everything in a line aslong as their isnt any carapace and you crit, which you do every 3 melee kills or with the crit blessing on the db

[thin stone]

I guess perks are standard maniac + flak

[ocean idol]

i never panic

[thin stone]

I have Tier 4 Infernus + Headhunter

Is that good?

[ocean idol]

Oh damn, braced gun got different firing pattern now?

[thin stone]

Anyone?

[ocean idol]

well i just did

[radiant chasm]

it's power

[hidden tree]

So both

[radiant chasm]

damage cleave stagger

[hidden tree]

Ah

Thanks

[radiant chasm]

just a new crosshair

[terse idol]

It's good iirc
Either that or headhunter and dumdum

[radiant chasm]

they did a crosshair revamp

[hidden tree]

So does bloodletrer suck? That's what I've been using this whole time

[radiant chasm]

kinda yea

[thin stone]

Is Dumdum + Headhunter better? Than Infernus+ Headhunter?

[hidden tree]

Can I still 1 hit chargers? And ragers?

[radiant chasm]

imo, it's good vs bulwarks and monstros but does nothing otherwise

[hidden tree]

Can I still 1 hit chargers? And ragers? Without the bloodletter I mean

[radiant chasm]

you should be oneshotting both if you hit the head with a rev'd heavy iirc,

[hidden tree]

Ok

[ocean idol]

Is that red number kills?

[hidden tree]

I'll test it today, thanks for opening my eyes

[hidden tree]

I use bolter and play vet exclusively lol so they're never an issue, ragers and specialists are more of an issue for me up close

[umbral scaffold]

torn between slaughterer or bloodletter to replace rev it up any thoughts

[radiant chasm]

it's an mk4 so slaught

bloodletter is a meme on such a high damage weapon like chaxe

[umbral scaffold]

thank you

[hidden tree]

After long consideration from myself, definitely slaughterer

@umbral scaffold I'm changing my chainsword today from bloodletter to rampage so

[umbral scaffold]

yea rampage is a lot of fun

[hidden tree]

Never used it so I shall see, I've been using bloodletter and savage sweep since I got a godroll

[umbral scaffold]

shes a beauty

now to get used to actually using it

[crimson pebble]

God roll

[radiant chasm]

oh and if your chsword is mk4, you can rev->Push attack and it's a thrust, easy to land headshots and it's a ton of stagger

[umbral scaffold]

word thanks for the tip

[somber axle]

I'd recommend Flak + Maniac
Dum Dum is the most important blessing
Then you can run Headhunter for better ammo efficiency through Shock Trooper or go Deathspitter for the power increase to buff cleave value and damage a bit. I personally like Dum Dum + Deathspitter in the VIIa but if you find yourself running into orange and red ammo frequently go Headhunter for sure

Infernus IV isn't bad either with Headhunter

Dum Dum outperforms it on TTK for most targets at most ranges but it's still ok damage on bosses and beefier targets like Maulers and Bulwarks

Plus lighting things on fire is really fun

[heavy rover]

yeah, I'd recommend flak and maniac on the Mk VIIa recon too

[somber axle]

Sometimes you ignite a hound with a crit as it leaps around a corner and out of line of sight, and the fire burns it to death before it circles back

Very satisfying

[heavy rover]

as for the headhunter / dumdum/ infernus choices, it's pretty much down to preference. On my end I like running headhunter and infernus with the Deadshot talent

[somber axle]

The change to how close range damage is defined made Dum Dum a lot better and Longshot very eh

[last parcel]

have you tried competitive urge with suppression recon
it felt like i breathe and reapers start dabbing without the other suppression node so it’s probably overkill

[somber axle]

Something like up to 12.5m is the effective range for 100% of the damage bonus from close range damage buffs like Dum Dum and Close Quarters Kill Zone, and it scales down the buff until like 42m or something and that's the VAST majority of ranges you will be fighting at outside of a sniper behind a box across the entire map LOL

[somber axle]

wait competitive urge does suppression?

OH IT DOES

Wow I should try it LOL

I usually don't even look at it for how conditional it is but in Aurics it might have ok uptime

[gilded wraith]

Suppression recon?

[somber axle]

Recons have pretty solid suppression by default

[gilded wraith]

Gotcha, wasn't sure if that indicated a specific mark.

[last parcel]

100% uptime when you just killed everything, 50+% otherwise

[dreamy spade]

Take autopistol with powerburn for max suppression

[last parcel]

i pulled that number out of my ass btw

[dreamy spade]

But 0 accuracy

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-monkey-gun-shooting-gif-17888605

Never hit anything but they're terrified of you anyway

[faint beacon]

Be me wildly swing a Taxe 4 head level and do quicker horde clear than the heavy hitter Ogryn

[gilded wraith]

How's the taxe 4? Which mark works best with light spam?

[faint beacon]

Tactical Axe 4

Best for light spam

BM + Headtaker

Taxe 2 is better

But it’s Heavy Spam

[gilded wraith]

Cool, love Keep Swinging

[faint beacon]

I’m starting to lean off using Rashad seeing how hard it carries and picked up Taxes

[gilded wraith]

Really wish we'd get a heavy attack variant that lets you adjust timing.

[faint beacon]

Still killing like fucking crazy with it

[gilded wraith]

Sadly, my nice rolls a 2s.

[faint beacon]

Taxe 2 is the better one

It’s just you gotta do heavies

Lights are strikedowns aka single target

[gilded wraith]

Heh, sounds like work and wrist injury.

[lunar palm]

Hey strike team 1 is in need of a veteran if anyone would like to join

[faint beacon]

If I wasn’t working all day I’d probably join

[ocean idol]

Bolter is pretty crazy

I keep getting like 50% more damage than the rest of them, or double

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah bolter is finicky but when it works yeah it works well

[lyric dock]

it's very strong when ti used right

[ocean idol]

And how it is used wrong?

[lyric dock]

But I see most bolt vets just mag dump and become a No ammo pickup modifier on legs

[ocean idol]

And how it is used right?

[midnight totem]

Ite very fun

Up until you reload

[ocean idol]

mag damp is actually so bad now

i think it used to be better?

[lyric dock]

Mag dump into trash enemies

[ocean idol]

now i see no point in it

[midnight totem]

Give bolter a two round crit string

[lyric dock]

Or make it so it doesn't get out gun by a god damn revolver

[ocean idol]

speaking of trash

[radiant chasm]

when pinning fire was 100% yes

[ocean idol]

how much cleave it has?

[radiant chasm]

they buffed bolter, but they buffed it specifically towards finesse

[ocean idol]

Thinking if i should right click in hordes at all

[radiant chasm]

so it's a headshot/crit weapon now

[ocean idol]

oh nice

now i see why i like it more now

So i probably don't want pinning fire anymore?

[radiant chasm]

nah

you do

it's the only damage boosting blessing. pinning +surgical

[ocean idol]

hOLY SHIT I hate peopel who disconnect the moment something go wrong

one guy was downed like na idiot

We run to save him

he disconnected half a second before i revived him

and because of that me and another dude died

[ocean idol]

also damn, now X12 lasgun feels so bad in comparison to bolter as sniper weaon

[radiant chasm]

mk12 got powercrept by enemy buffs and buffs to other in it's family

[ocean idol]

Other lasguns got buffed?

[radiant chasm]

it takes a ton of investment for mk12 to hit oneshot breakpoints, when you can run the mkia and 2shot everything with little to no investment

it has more ammo and fire fasters as well, so mk12 isn't bad it's just in a bad spot in relation to everything around it

[grand perch]

yeah a while ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLfRA_v_Fs4
just gonna repost this here cause why not

[ocean idol]

what about recons?

I always liked how they felt

What is bolter cleave?

[lucid hinge]

recons just got a buff and are pretty good now

[ocean idol]

OOOOH nice

So what purpose each of them serves now?

also, recommendations for blessings on double barrel?

[dreamy spade]

Accurate shredder goes crazy

[radiant chasm]

recons got a buff all around, they are very ammo efficient and great at clearing trash shooters, elites, specials etc

[radiant chasm]

scattershot+manstoppper or both barrels+deathspitter

[terse idol]

I thought shredder pistol was still kinda ass

[dreamy spade]

it is

but this talent makes it good

[lavish token]

Dod goated

[ocean idol]

scatter-shot + deathspitter?

[wise trout]

Was there any changes to Lucius in the last year?
Is Vraks good?

[lyric dock]

Not that I'm familar with and no idea on the Varks. Never used them

[faint beacon]

Vraks Headhunters are fucking insane

If you can actually click on heads

But don’t get that one

[last parcel]

lucius helbore lasguns got the bayonet melee blessing interaction removed/fixed

[faint beacon]

Stopping power dump stat (foghorn.mp3)

[last parcel]

[radiant chasm]

why crit with no blessing that gives you something when you crit

manstopper gives you a ton of cleave on crit

[wise trout]

Let's just say I mained helbores before my hiatus. I hope I can click at least some heads.

[faint beacon]

Vraks 3 and 7 people like the most

I prefer Agri IX

[last parcel]

the redheaded stepchild

[wise trout]

I see. I will take it just in case there will be stat recalibration included in the itemization update.

[faint beacon]

You’re upset I top score with it

[wise trout]

Btw. What would be the best weapon selection tp pick from to go with rashads build?

Please do not tell me a sprint pistol.

[faint beacon]

One that’s going to be a fucking task cause you have to get really damn lucky

It’s a Jack of all trades melee

It’s just

You need to get super specific things to make it literally the most brain dead melee in game

[wise trout]

Please. I am a shield ogryn.

Whomp. Block cancel. Whomp. Block cancel. Whomp. Taunt push. Whomp. Block cancel.

[faint beacon]

All stats minus mobility above 70%

Perk: 25% Unarmored

Blessings: Brutal Momentum + Headtaker

You need that

For an actual god roll

[wise trout]

Oh, I meant a main gun to compliment rashad.

[faint beacon]

And it deletes hordes

[faint beacon]

Anything really

[wise trout]

Something long range then? I see.

[faint beacon]

I use something anti special usually for my guns

Though Tbf I’m running HHA + Tac Axes now

[ocean idol]

Double barrel + knife with weapon specialist pretty fun

[wise trout]

I had some fun with this, but also it was too hard to make it work.

[faint beacon]

If you can get a Crit build on that and Born Leader you’d have a toughness battery build

[lyric dock]

Yep. Pairs really well with shock trooper making it last a long time ammo wise

[ocean idol]

How mcuh cleave bolter has?

Although logically it should have no cleave at all

[wise trout]

What is a good way to build into crit?

[faint beacon]

Right side tree

For talents

[wise trout]

Oh. Which is also good for melee as well, I believe?

[faint beacon]

Weapon Specialist keystone and Reciprocity Talent

But that’s for melee

I know there’s other ways

[lyric dock]

Dead shot on the left side

Which combine with Las pistol having a high natural crit rate

[halcyon zephyr]

Wait, stopping power increases damage? MY PERFECT WEAPON IS RUINED D:

[faint beacon]

Damage against Flak Armor

It’s seriously important

[halcyon zephyr]

I guess Hadron and Brunt get to milk me some more next month.

[faint beacon]

Actually that’s

Bare minimum

It’s acceptable

But you want 69+

So you’re literally at the minimum stat before it’s just not worth it

If you run +25 Flak% as a perk as well it might make up for it

[last parcel]

ah it’s fine just wait for itemization so you can turn it into a three eig-

[halcyon zephyr]

It's as good as I can make it right now, and I've been happy using it since I was an absolute shitter and getting into flame wars in vet chat over how bad it was (hint, I was bracing and that was a mistake)

[faint beacon]

They don’t get DumDum on them right

I literally

Never use braced autos

[last parcel]

yeah

[faint beacon]

Yeah I’d say that’s about as good as it gets then

[halcyon zephyr]

Bracing this gun is actually throwing. If you use it like a CS AK47 it becomes a beast

[last parcel]

they talk about my one taps

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-herald-of-darkness-champion-of-light-alan-wake-2-dance-gif-4897458621883510764

[halcyon zephyr]

This is me in melee combat frfr

Alternative title: Me playing pysker

[midnight totem]

God I wish it was a real space ak47

It feels more like the m249

But with a 40 round mag

[halcyon zephyr]

High stability helps with distance accuracy for sure

[hollow rose]

Is there a maintenance going on?

[radiant chasm]

nope

[faint beacon]

I hear this pray a stubber was added for veteran and then immediately be disappointed cause there still isn’t

[midnight totem]

I'd love a stubber for vet, but it'd be hard to balance compared to the heavy stubber for ogryn

[faint beacon]

I have a rough idea

On how they could

Extreme hipfire and braced accuracy penalties whilst moving

Forces you to stand still when firing with it

[midnight totem]

I actually had an idea for all weapons to get an additional "module" slot that has both positive and negatives

[faint beacon]

Like a

Modifier that gives you an up but a down

[midnight totem]

Yes. One of the "modules" for braced autoguns would be a belt fed mag

[faint beacon]

I always liked those ideas

[midnight totem]

So vastly increased magazine capacity, at the cost of reload speed

For a power sword, malfunctioning power core so the sword sets enemies on fire, but it also cleaves less enemies when energized

[vale ledge]

Hey quick question: is it still possible for people to get the Moebian 21st sets?

[midnight totem]

Chainsword gets a hungering motor machine spirit, when you Rev it, it terrifies enemies around you (like terrifying barrage), but maybe the finesse modifier is lower

Stuff like that

[lucid hinge]

no

you had to play before Nov 17th 2023 iirc

[faint beacon]

Wait seriously?

Damn I started playing just in time then lmao

[midnight totem]

I started playing after

[faint beacon]

Nov 8th

Picked up the game for the first time

Have the 21st set so I must’ve just gotten lucky on timing

[last parcel]

lol
lmao

no moebians for me

[vale ledge]

Luv me 21st

[idle swallow]

thinkgn bout that moebian steel

[oblique totem]

Guys, I finally got the game working again. We are so back.

[last parcel]

it only took 1 month of file verification

[oblique totem]

Nothing is free.

In this case, having fun.

[clear lantern]

I like this gun;

[iron marten]

damn, it really almost has been 2 years...

[last parcel]

haha old

[ocean idol]

What are blessings for recons?

and build ofr that matter

[distant girder]

Infernus Is great!

[iron marten]

it's ok, being old has its benefits

[iron marten]

I'd say, at the very least, get Headhunter, and have a toss-up between DumDum and Infernus for your 2nd blessing

[midnight totem]

The retirement fund

[clear lantern]

since there's 3 recons, you can build one of each!

[iron marten]

^^

Pick your favourite one

Personally, I like 7a the most

[clear lantern]

and if you build an infernus one, be sure to use the red or tiger striped skin from the commissary; it doesn't count as infernus without the fire blazin'

add a trinket that has the silver oil in it or the bone canister to act like it's your propellant

[ocean idol]

And what about recon verisons?

Which is better?

[clear lantern]

it's about rate of fire and ammunition management

the higher the mark, the faster the fire I think

[iron marten]

there's nothing that's better per se. It's mainly rof and dmg/bullet

mk6d is the fast one

mk2 is the inbetween one

mk7a is the slowest one

[ocean idol]

here are mine

[ocean idol]

I know that

So it is basically just matter of DPS vs Ammo managment?

[clear lantern]

more or less; though the VId with onslaught is pretty funny against crushers and monsters

[ocean idol]

and Focus Target would be main thing?

also Exe stance or nah?

[clear lantern]

I have used a recon for all three pure builds; it excells because it is fairly accurate at mid range

especially with iron sights, you can counter-sniper at long range because it causes the bullet spread to be much more fovcused

gotta be aware of your ammunition in high intensity if you don't like to hack and slash a lot; a lot of hordes will melt your counter

[inland orchid]

Ah yes the good ol “shove a horde in his face to block the sight line of the backline specialist”

Devious combo on the directors part

[clear lantern]

like playin' peekaboo with a sniper or dreg gunner when the poxwalkers keep jumping in the way

[tall torrent]

No

6d firerate is fastest
7a is slowest

[ocean idol]

Shock Trooper REALLY helps with that though

[clear lantern]

@iron marten already corrected me, but thanks

[ocean idol]

You mean all 3 builds are good?

and by pure you mean going only left/center/right?

going smokes + invis must be an experience

[clear lantern]

yeah, I like to test out an absolutely vertical line, so I call them "pure" builds. That includes smokes/infiltrate with weapon mastery but there's too many slots for full weapon mastery so you gotta justpick a side

[orchid hemlock]

i prefer mk2, more ammo efficient and faster pullout/reload time

😈

As Cardi B said it best:

"make that pull out game weak 😤"

[ocean idol]

BRO

WTF IS NEW RECON

[fossil basalt]

Luv me smokes and infil, mad support

[ocean idol]

But 7 is even more ammo efficient?

Damn, 7 is crazy with Exe stance

gotta replace deathspitter with headhunter on it may be

[tame lodge]

Takes more ammo per shot

To balance for the 3 cleave

[shy oak]

just got 12 revives on random dam quickplay fun stuff

infiltrate db my beloved

[serene bough]

these silly people and their names

[ocean idol]

Damn, it has 3 cleave? i would expect to be the best against solo targets, but it seems it is the best against hordeS?

Holy shit, recons are amazing now

Also who the fuck siad that he sees smokes rarely in auric

I seen them today in ev ery single game

[orchid hemlock]

how? It uses double the ammo per shot

[shadow urchin]

I'm not a tac axe user, but they gave me this roll which seems pretty good. Any advice on how to build it?

[ocean idol]

so recons are universal weapon type now?

good agianst hordes and elites/specials?

[shadow urchin]

I mean, they're las dakka, so yeah, shoot anything long enough it'll die.

Ye can build crit and really hold the trigger down for that Tiny Ogryn experience.

[ocean idol]

also dreg ragers seem to behave differently than before?

aaand hordes also feel denser than they used to be

[shadow urchin]

Yeah, they made the dreg ragers faster. They buffed quite a few units

[idle swallow]

someone pissed in the dreg rager cereal and they big mad

[ocean idol]

What others?

I did read about dreg shooters

[ocean idol]

they are RAGErs

if anything, they were not mad enough

[shadow urchin]

Shooters are a bit more aggressive, although they reverted some of that. And Groaners are faster than other trash types now.

They removed the headshot damage reduction from scab ragers so they die real eazy now.

And they made Reapers faster while shooting.

[somber axle]

What region

I am US west and no one uses them here in Aurics LOL

Also blah ok I am fetching the thing on Recons again

DPS/TTK (single target)
Mk II > Mk VIIa > MK VId

DPS/TTK (multi target)
Mk VIIa > Mk VId > Mk II

DPS/TTK (carapace)
Mk VId > Mk VIIa > Mk II

Ammo Efficiency
Mk II > Mk VIIa > Mk VId

Recon Mk VIIa: 50-54 shots (2 ammo cost per shot, 100-108 ammo per clip)
Recon Mk II: 100-108 shots (1 ammo cost per shot, 100-108 ammo per clip)
Recon Mk VId: 160-180 shots (1 ammo cost per shot, 160-180 ammo per clip)

Recon Mk VId has the highest rate of fire, Recon Mk VIIa has a cleave value of 3 on each shot. To explain the cleave it means it can shoot 2 poxwalkers down (each has a hit mass of 1.2) so the first shot will penetrate it and strike the target behind it too. This is extra helpful for cleaving through hordes to hit a Rager in the middle of them

[oblique totem]

It's always amazing to see this

[somber axle]

Am at work so I can't do my whole clown sales pitch on Recons but they were buffed with SotMG so they don't need me hyping them up anymore they're just solid mid tier weapons now

[last parcel]

i see smokes in auric all the time
the sample definitely isn’t biased because i’m the one throwing them, nope, not at all

[somber axle]

I must be the change I want to see in the world

Time to spam smoke with exe stance

[inland orchid]

Had a broham help purge some heretics with a smoke nade so Dw I think the change has already been set in motion

Did wonders to snuff out the gunners

[somber axle]

If more Vets are running smoke it will be very fun for Executioner's Stance users

[oblique totem]

I was gonna ask is it was because you were the one throwing them

That sounds like something you would do

[tall torrent]

Dreg ragers are kinda problematic rn

[inland orchid]

Extra fun for the squad if they rocking the one where your squad also sees the outlines

[shadow urchin]

I've been running no-nade builds, maybe its time to roll some smokes

[somber axle]

Wait did they make Ragers fast again

[tall torrent]

No, just that 1 Dreg rager buff

[somber axle]

Can they make shooters dangerous again too

[oblique totem]

Sure, Ragers say they're mad. But are they really?

[tall torrent]

But there was no spawn rate / density tweak

[somber axle]

Ah ok

[last parcel]

wow ok

just had to call me out like that

[tall torrent]

Plus u can get loads of Tox bomber spawns that buff Dreg ragers even more

[oblique totem]

I am perfectly fine with shooters being dangerous again, but only if that goes both ways.

[tall torrent]

It spirals down fast

[oblique totem]

Someone has to.

[last parcel]

[somber axle]

Sometimes the ai director gets a little silly

[oblique totem]

Pomni already said she's at work. Can't make her do everything.

[tall torrent]

It’s really just Dreg ragers being a bit overtuned

Tox bomber also a little overtuned ig

[shadow urchin]

I think they were too hasty reverting that buff. Call it a bias but methinks folks were just unwilling to try out anti-shooter weapons and loadouts.

[tall torrent]

Anti shooter is simple really, u just get a gun with ghost

[somber axle]

It's kinda wild how Dreg Ragers are a threat but Flak Ragers are nothing

Slower + almost everyone shoves flak on their weapons LOL

Buff Flak Ragers

Buff all Flak

Buff the 6th

[last parcel]

it also didn’t help that it came when people were experiencing clandestum glorywhole’s first event for the first time

[oblique totem]

Debuff all carapace

triple poxwalker melee damage

[last parcel]

wearing armor makes them unworthy of the rager name

[shadow urchin]

Anything with high capacity and decent reserves worked well enough. Pretty much all the rifles and las pistols. But at the time everyone was all about the Zarona and Plasma. They're still all about them, I think.

[last parcel]

make them naked

[oblique totem]

Double hound and trapper range.

[last parcel]

but have flak codpieces

[somber axle]

People like to rush even when it isn't safe to do so. Rushing a firing line lore accurate outcome made people upset LMFAO

[last parcel]

insert professional’s quote about tau gunlines here

[somber axle]

I did sympathize with Ogryns during that time though

[oblique totem]

Think fast, idiots.

[shadow urchin]

"Lol, if you're using cover you're playing the game wrong"

The Developers: :\

[somber axle]

They have like almost no good ranged answer to large rooms of non-elite shooters being dangerous

[tall torrent]

It’s really because melee is more efficient than ranged against mob shooters most of the time

[shadow urchin]

If ye can get up close and they ain't spread out, yeah.

[somber axle]

Light a candle for the Ogryn mains who ate record amounts of lead and las in the first days of the patch 🕯️

[tall torrent]

Only ogryn sorta struggles vs spread out shooters

But that’s still build dependent

[inland orchid]

Is why I enjoy slab shield with taunt on block/push talent

Ensures most shooters become melee guys real quick

[somber axle]

Some of the Twinstubbers feel like good responses to rooms of shooters/gunners even without going Gunlugger talents

[shadow urchin]

To summarize, I liked the buff, they should bring it back for Auric at least

[tall torrent]

The shooter buff was fine

It’s the rager buff I think needs some adjustments

[somber axle]

Shooter Buff should return as a modifier

Stimmed 6th

[shadow urchin]

A few of the rippers also worked to shut 'em up long enough to close the gap. High suppression on those.

[tall torrent]

Suppression is still in need of changes

[shadow urchin]

Aye, it ain't great, but I'd rather have it than nil

[oblique totem]

Ogryns are tough though

[shadow urchin]

Weird we don't pronounce tough and though similar.

[last parcel]

tough ogryns when i blow them off a ledge with a barrel

[reef crown]

What perks/blessings for weapon specialist double barrel shotty?

[arctic rampart]

When a teammate blows up barrels do you automatically think "I bet he did that on purpose", or do you consider it might have been an accident?

Especially when you start doing aurics I Just assume its the game and on purpose hehe

[tall torrent]

Manstopper & both barrels

[tame lodge]

Probably just a change on the decay or an adjustment of suppression values

[tall torrent]

No it’s the fact that suppression actively makes shooters take longer to kill

And building +suppression doesn’t make it more interesting

It doesn’t change the radius at which ur shots deal suppression

It only affects how fast u can suppress enemies

[lavish token]

Depends

[tall torrent]

Taking 5 shots to suppress a whole group of shooters to force them into melee is more impactful than suppressing 2 shooters in 2 shots

+suppression doesn’t keep an enemy in a suppressed state for longer

[tame lodge]

I kinda understand what you mean
Been playing staff psyker a lot lately and damn does it suppress

[last parcel]

i take +suppression nodes for the placebo

[tall torrent]

Staff psyker has the best suppression

Mainly because you’re actually playing a ranged class

[oblique totem]

What do you mean? I do.

[tame lodge]

Yeah, 10 to 15 suppression per shot, my beloved

[oblique totem]

tou-Gh
thou-Gh

[tame lodge]

Doe

[tame lodge]

50% of 1.5

[muted gorge]

behold and fear, my smoke grenade recon 6 build

[last parcel]

die

[tame lodge]

Why tactical reload when mag dumping the 6d feels better

[oblique totem]

Wow, look at that shift to the smoke grenades

[idle swallow]

not the two points just to get tac reload over out for blood💀

[muted gorge]

heheh

[muted gorge]

5% toughness regen cant be that much of a difference

neither is the reload tbf

[tame lodge]

Unless it means 10% toughness replenishment, since the base is 5%

[muted gorge]

okay how about this? i switched it for suppression immunity and weakspot hits getting stronger

[orchid hemlock]

how many knee socks do I need for this? 🤔 https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c39a0c4-39ed-417d-bb6d-838991d8fb09/femboy-vet

[muted gorge]

at least 3 pairs

[umbral scaffold]

3 pairs ? rookie numbers

[tall torrent]

Purposefully avoiding the exe stance refresh node is insane behaviour

[last parcel]

what makes this femboy

[muted gorge]

youre not thinking big brain enough

[orchid hemlock]

yes

[muted gorge]

its so my allies can see through my smoke grenades...... that i wont have alot of cause im not replenishing any

shit

[last parcel]

*gigachad behavior
exe more like radar stance

[tame lodge]

Understandable have a nice day

[last parcel]

i sentence you to male pattern baldness

[tame lodge]

Oh right, you don't have nade regen 💀

[clear lantern]

you gonna use that uwu mod for it?

[clear lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/frost-mortal-kombat-mk11-mk-kombatmelon-gif-15205662245125313285

[somber axle]

I made a worm for fun

This is probably awful LOL

But I kinda want to try it

[oblique totem]

Disgusting

[lusty sapphire]

This hmmm

[oblique totem]

10/10

[lusty sapphire]

It's bad

But it should work

[somber axle]

Time to spray Crushers and swing a chainsword with silliness

[umbral scaffold]

its got rending so yeah

[somber axle]

I can make it worse if I lose Desperado for Counterfire

[oblique totem]

I'd be disappointed if you didn't

[last parcel]

and then drop wep spec for twinned blasts

[somber axle]

Grenadier build but with smokes

All grenade talents

Use 0 grenades the whole match

[last parcel]

[somber axle]

Then hotbox Masozi's ship at the end

[oblique totem]

Is there any other use for smoke grenades?

[austere mica]

Trolling the other vet who is just being a dumbass

[umbral scaffold]

hotboxing your lungs with chaf

[tame lodge]

Waking Daemonhosts
Staggering bosses (not confirmed, probably a lie)

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/smokebomb-im-out-ready-to-fight-gif-15479694

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/trava-420-high-falling-fell-gif-12118938

Rolling up to the mission like

[tame lodge]

Varlets, I need you to go and bake the machine spirit

[orchid hemlock]

btw what is more ammo effecient? infantry or recon lasguns? 🤔

[oblique totem]

Are you using the perk that makes some lasgun shots not use any ammo?

[orchid hemlock]

yes

[uncut pebble]

Thats a very difficult question to answer.

[oblique totem]

Then the lasguns, provided you can hit a target

[orchid hemlock]

but wouldn't the answer still be the same?

[uncut pebble]

Some models take multiple ammo per shot, but recons also have crit strings.

The true answer is actually neither, it's helbore lasguns.

[oblique totem]

Found the helbore main

[uncut pebble]

Neither infantry or recon lasguns get guaranteed 1off crits, but helbores can have surgical.

So effectively, if you have shock trooper, helbores have infinite ammo.

[orchid hemlock]

I mean I would like helbores more if it wasn't for the fact they take 20 years to pull out

[uncut pebble]

Yeah but you also have a bayonet.

[orchid hemlock]

Yeah but bayonet has no sweep

[uncut pebble]

Then position yourself accordingly.

Biggest, most glaring issue of helbores isn't actually the gun itself, it's the player using it.

[orchid hemlock]

Or I could just switch to my Rashad and slaughter everything

[somber axle]

in order of ammo efficiency overall
Mk IV iLas > Recon Mk II > Mk XII iLas > Mg1a iLas > Recon Mk VIIa > Recon Mk VId

[uncut pebble]

Positioning is key so you dont have to pull your melee out.

[somber axle]

so mostly infantry lasguns imo

[uncut pebble]

NERD

[somber axle]

but Recon Mk II does surprisingly well

[uncut pebble]

Sorry.

[oblique totem]

Wimp

[uncut pebble]

Slipped out.

[oblique totem]

Stand by your beliefs

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-pc-cat-reading-workaholics-gif-14796708

[last parcel]

just like that shit when i sneezed lmao

[tame lodge]

Mk3's bayo has 6.5 cleave 💀 but it's the Mk3

[oblique totem]

See a doctor

[uncut pebble]

Backup, can you please not ever say things like this again? Thanks.

[orchid hemlock]

did someone say M4 ILAS?https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/87

[last parcel]

no we are talking about avtomat kalashnikov 4 ilas

[orchid hemlock]

preciate it

[tame lodge]

Got it, headhunter+ efficiency with shock trooper 🫡
Off to test it

[somber axle]

I play unmodded but I like going Weapon Specialist + Mk IV iLas just for fun sometimes

click fast

[oblique totem]

I am currently unmodded and just shoot ateverything

[arctic rampart]

I got full auto for daggers and on my zealot using blue stims with laspistol PEWPEWPEPW

[oblique totem]

has about a 60 percent success rate

[somber axle]

afaik Efficiency isn't good since it's probably saving you less than 40 ammo across an entire match tbh

it's only applying to the first shot

[tame lodge]

It's the placebo that counts

[somber axle]

if the buff would last 1.0-2.5 seconds depending on rank for spamming shots it could be ok

still not good but at least it would be funny for weapon specialist spamming shots down range on weapon switch LOL

[sleek garden]

i am in a game with a veteran who has not taken any damage the whole time with a super power sword shout revolver combo and he keeps sprinting off from the group so everyone keeps going down while he does his own thing

[tame lodge]

Could be nice, specially considering that Efficiency could proc on crits that would not consume ammo because shock trooper

[somber axle]

a lot of blessings need to be reworked tbh

Falter literally has no observable effect on gameplay with the Helbores

it's a dead blessing

[thorn lark]

malice / heresy?

[sleek garden]

auric

[somber axle]

it's not even like Terrifying Barrage on Psyker staves because even as much as Psykers hate seeing that blessing it still at least does something

[thorn lark]

T_T

[sleek garden]

i think they need to nerf commanding shout

like a lot

[frank monolith]

Does he go invis since if not i think the people should keep up

[sleek garden]

he is constantly spamming it on himself

[sleek garden]

nobody else is using a revolver

[thorn lark]

if you go alone, at least kill everything preemptively

[sleek garden]

he went alone not me

it seems like a shut your brain off combo revolver power cycler shout

side note i feel the shovel does worse against ragers now

i use to be able to handle a couple with hammerblow but they recover so fast

special poke overhead with some heavies would knock them over

not anymore

[lavish token]

Show scoreboard

[thorn lark]

snoreboard

[teal siren]

Kick him

[sleek garden]

i dont need to show scoreboard

he was top dog

by a mile

[lavish token]

it is what is

[lusty sapphire]

Man I finally tried knife.

You gotta have a sugar rush to enjoy that type of gameplay fully

Good finesse, good mobility and on the mk6 even hordeclear is decent

[faint beacon]

okay hear me out

Tactical Axe

[uncut pebble]

No.

[faint beacon]

Yes

[rapid palm]

axe is okay but boring

[somber axle]

Tac Axe Mk IV with Trench Fighter Drill and Weapon Specialist activates clown neurons

[faint beacon]

Taxe 4 TFD swinging at Head Level straight up makes me think its just Rashad without it actually carrying you through the entire game

[runic peak]

Ok but hear me out, helbore

it shoots, it stabs, what more do you want

[haughty hedge]

hey yesterday @uncut pebble I got a tree already and I realized I really want to go all-in on Squad Leader, can I get a build that builds around Squad Leader's role?

I dont mind switching off Revolver

I want to keep the Axe though

[last parcel]

needs to wipe my ass

[tame lodge]

Not enough people running the Mk3

[haughty hedge]

I want to drop weapons specialist for Focus Target, anyone got a skill tree I could look at for ideas?

[runic peak]

I'm on mk2 while I find a good mk3

[last parcel]

can you elaborate on what you're looking for in terms of being a squad leader

[haughty hedge]

I really like the pinging targets to give them a defense debuff, I want to boost my team's effectiveness while keeping some level of independence

I also really like picking off specials

[lime fossil]

are the power swords any good?

the name goes hard so i assume they go hard?

[tame lodge]

Mk6 probably top 3 weapons

Mk3 is great as well

[lime fossil]

debating on keeping my chainsword or getting power sword

[runic peak]

power cycler ii -> special -> push -> heavy -> light -> light -> repeat

Congrats everything's dead

[lime fossil]

theres melee combos to this

i just been swinging

block n shove if need be

[uncut pebble]

A "squad leader" sounds like voc with a toughness battery build.

I'm sure somebody around here has one floating around, but that means you'll probably have to use plasma.

[haughty hedge]

I liked the feeling of being able to competently fight melee or ranged, but I want to use Mark Target over Weapon Specialist

[last parcel]

you could do something like this. feel free to swap for the emperor for born leader if you're using a gun with gloryhunter

[haughty hedge]

I also like the Axe

[haughty hedge]

Shredder Grenade?

[last parcel]

you can swap it if you want

the main thing is just voc + duty and honor and focus target with the subnodes (besides 8 stacks)

[lime fossil]

ngl i should probably find a build to follow ive just been putting points into whatever

[haughty hedge]

How substantial is 1% Ammo, Survivalist?

[lime fossil]

yes

its ammo

and thats all you need to know

[last parcel]

it adds up over time but is only really mandatory for plasma and stuf

[lime fossil]

you can shoot more bullet per bullet

[haughty hedge]

Since I like prioritizing Specials, does that make me an Ammo Battery?

im lvl12, i dont think i have Plasma unlocked. what do i use until then?

[lime fossil]

anything works tbh

in my case at least

[last parcel]

oh level 12

[lime fossil]

recon lasgun fucks hard tho

[last parcel]

revolver is fine as you use this

then this

[lime fossil]

revolver is very fun\

tho its the year 41k and they still havented made speedloaders

[haughty hedge]

what do i do with the rest of the points??

[last parcel]

swap from fire team to survivalist or close and kill

such as with the first template i sent earlier

[haughty hedge]

ohh okay, so follow that tree until i get Plasma

then swap to the earlier one

[last parcel]

you don't need plasma, that was just an example weapon i gave

[lime fossil]

plasma is pretty gopod tho from what i know

havent got it yet

[haughty hedge]

oh okay, then what other guns could i use this for specials, crushers, etc.

I want to handle hordes with melee and gun for everything else. is Revolver sufficient?

[last parcel]

yeah

more th an sufficient

[lime fossil]

very good for run n gun

i just use lasguns for the most part

0 recoil and solid stats

[haughty hedge]

Im a cowboy enthusiast

[lime fossil]

laspistol

[haughty hedge]

that doesnt sound like it'd be good against armor tho

[lime fossil]

thats what the grenade and melee for

[last parcel]

you typically use melee for anti armor

[haughty hedge]

huh, ok

[lime fossil]

ball hard

[haughty hedge]

does Mk2 Axe work?

[lime fossil]

id get a chainsword

[last parcel]

rashad combat axe? yeah once rolled and built properly it's one of the best melees in the game

[haughty hedge]

Currently running Mk2 Axe with Brutal Momentum and Revolver

[lime fossil]

is rampage good at all?

[last parcel]

yes

i'm assuming you mean on chainsword

so still yes

[lime fossil]

i have it on powersword

[last parcel]

then not really

[lime fossil]

i had wrath on my chainsword

[last parcel]

less that it's bad and its competition is just a lot bette

[lime fossil]

what blessing should i get on a powersword?

[last parcel]

power cycler 4 then brutal momentum or sunder

[lime fossil]

i have never seen both of those must be rare

[last parcel]

it's kind of a meme how hard it is to find power cycler 4

but with the coming update it'll be less rng

[lime fossil]

is there a way to farm blessings without spending all of my diamantine and plasteel

[lime fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/aa-anniversary-wishes-akshay-kumar-aww-gif-24254310

me when no imagine perm

[last parcel]

check sire melk's store every day

[orchid hemlock]

How much mats do you have?

[lime fossil]

314 plas 564 dia 😭

i play on difficulty 4

[last parcel]

don't bother consecrating until level 30 btw

[orchid hemlock]

The best way to farm mats is spamming Damnation quick play

Oh u arnt even lvl 30 yet

[lime fossil]

fr?

im lvl 15

on vet at least

[orchid hemlock]

Why are you concentrating anything

[last parcel]

yeah, consecration quality is based on base weapon rating

[lime fossil]

i alr have lvl 30 psyker

[last parcel]

and you don't get high base rating until 30

[lime fossil]

bruh

[orchid hemlock]

No don't touch anything crafting related until you reach 30

[lime fossil]

so much wasted

[orchid hemlock]

Even if you get the blessings you want, the weapon's stats are going to be cheeks

[shy oak]

your soul.

[lime fossil]

so my best bets just grabbing a better weapon from shop when i can then at lvl 30 consecrate stuff

[orchid hemlock]

No I wouldn't even waste your othros

[lime fossil]

got it use the shovel

[orchid hemlock]

I wouldn't touch anything, maybe grab a blue and go with it

[pseudo fiber]

Or wait until the 26th of September when the Warhammer 40K™️ Darkide: Unlocked and loaded update releases on Steam, Xbox and Gamepass.

[last parcel]

[lime fossil]

do i get the 14k free stuff aswell

[shy oak]

unistall bro what he said wait a month

[pseudo fiber]

You wanna farm blessings in casino land do it now you want the righteous joy of gambling stripped away from you then wait.

[orchid hemlock]

The best way to farm mats is spamming quickplay damnation

[lime fossil]

i love gambling

alr 30k in debt

[shy oak]

take ur psyker

grab ur knife

run around the map and grab plasteel

[pseudo fiber]

But yeah Orcka is right do damnation. Do the lights out event if you haven't too.
Free shit.

[lime fossil]

idk if i could do dammnation with my playstyle

i play pskyer like a total dummie

[pseudo fiber]

Quickplay damnation*
Get the martyr skulls if you haven't.
And also heretic idols

[shy oak]

although people love to hate on it

u can use smite and dome

[lime fossil]

i play pskyer like a zealot sometimes i stg

i use the crystals and dome

[shy oak]

its a really good crutch for damnation if you just need to get carried

[lime fossil]

run into a group pop dome then just mouse 1 till i either
1.) blow up
2.) run out of things to kill

usually 2

[faint beacon]

Casually outperforms a meta psyker build with the Taxe 4

[orchid hemlock]

If u want I can get on soon, just let me finish my dinner first

[lime fossil]

i stg i gotta do another metalfab mission

i got like 2 more in me

i got work n shit

[orchid hemlock]

Just send a FR then, my ID is on my name

I need to stop doing auric pubs anyways, I'm starting to loose my mind 😔

I just witnessed an Shieldgryn who never heavy attacked

[tame lodge]

Yeah, they've been popular as of lately

Keep telling them to heavy

[orchid hemlock]

I did

I dont think they see the chat

😔

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[last parcel]

this message won't stop me because i can't read

[somber axle]

I feel like your luck depends on time of day

I just got off work and ran a few auric qps and the groups did amazingly well

ran a Maelstrom just now with the funny modifiers for bosses, all scab, etc. (didn't have no ammo though) and the group cleared pretty smoothly

[orchid hemlock]

I saw a a void psyker miss a crusher 4 times in a row 5 feet away from them

you tell me there is a god

[somber axle]

the warp is showing him visions

of the other crusher ghosts all around

[last parcel]

FOR HIM ON TERRA

[somber axle]

he needs to take out the ghosts first

[tall torrent]

You’re expecting psyker players to have good aim

[somber axle]

very important

[tall torrent]

God isn’t helping u there

[orchid hemlock]

doesn't the void staff have like huge ass hit box

[tall torrent]

You’re still expecting psyker players to have good aim

[orchid hemlock]

true they just shout and everyone in front of them dies

😔

[somber axle]

what if you go Gunker and play Psyker like a worse Vet with deployable bubble cover

Elysian Recon Gunker...

[last parcel]

do it with venting shriek without subnodes for diet voc

[orchid hemlock]

smite bubble void psyker, with warp siphon

[somber axle]

venting of command

[last parcel]

sussy

[orchid hemlock]

ahh this is soo much better

chillin with my gay squad 😤

[last parcel]

hey that's not fallout new vegas

[somber axle]

when the whole squad dodges the trapper

[orchid hemlock]

already 100% it

[umbral scaffold]

ayo this a leaked build o the itemization update ?????

holy moly

[orchid hemlock]

yes

i can finally craft the cosmetics to make me look like a Himbo 😤

[oblique totem]

More cosmetic options are always good

[somber axle]

I can't wait to pay money for premium cosmetic cat ears

Felinind time

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-guard-cat-warhammer40k-gif-23254825

[last parcel]

us rn

[umbral scaffold]

real

[oblique totem]

lore accurate cat girls are inbound.

[tall torrent]

Venting out commands

[oblique totem]

Don't blame me, it's what the player base wants

[clear lantern]

is this #zealot-class

[oblique totem]

Nah. We're far less degenerate.

[last parcel]

yeah

[oblique totem]

Somehow

[somber axle]

Veteran but they 100% understand squad commands are hit or miss (more often miss) when ordering the other three rejects

[clear lantern]

with screenshots like that?

[oblique totem]

Yep.

[somber axle]

loud angry shouts just to let off steam

[oblique totem]

It's healthy stress relief and it helps the team. Win-win

[somber axle]

voice of command just being "FIGHT OR ANSWER TO ME" as the simplest possible command knowing that everyone can and will follow it even if they don't want to listen

[clear lantern]

that's why I hit my middle mouse button 30 times per second at chasm logistratum's final event at every capsule

[oblique totem]

I use it every time I have to reload

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-think-of-it-gif-12729650

[clear lantern]

need a metric to keep track of poxxies killed by rifle headbutts

[umbral scaffold]

has the shop been changed yet ?

[idle pecan]

[orchid hemlock]

lets fucking goooooooooooooooo

[atomic zephyr]

damn you modded the hell outta your darktide client

[orchid hemlock]

yesir, now we femboys

[atomic zephyr]

man there was just a zealot in my lobby going on about twinks

recommended she see sister hestia for a confession

[orchid hemlock]

Average Zealot player

Vet players are also femboy tho

😔

[atomic zephyr]

no def just zealot

[orchid hemlock]

Vets are trans, Psykers are gay, Zealots are twinks, and Ogryns are nonbinary

[oblique totem]

Zealot is about 80 percent femboy, vet is like 30 percent it is not the same situation.

[last parcel]

what are you
ogryn
no i mean what do you identify as
ogryn
no like what's in your pants
rashuns

[atomic zephyr]

real

[orchid hemlock]

Exactly

[oblique totem]

Did you have this ready in case it came up?

[last parcel]

no i just made it up

[oblique totem]

I'm not sure if that's better or worse

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-gordon-freeman-headcrab-headcrab-eater-half-life-meme-gif-25938577

[fossil basalt]

Me when combat stims

[oblique totem]

What happens when you mix reflex and speed stims

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/pulling-handkerchief-munchy-side-hustle-ta-da-magic-trick-gif-25270440

Vet chat will always be 1% clown as long as I am here

[oblique totem]

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right

[last parcel]

honk honk

[oblique totem]

I saw that

[serene bough]

clowns are needed here

[oblique totem]

Do the other classes have clowns?
I assume psyker chat is full of this nonesense.

[last parcel]

they had jestr but he left the server because uni

[serene bough]

ogryn chat is old men paling around, zealot chat is degeneracy, and psyker chat doesnt exist

[oblique totem]

And vet chat is.... clowns?

[serene bough]

just the recon cat is a clown

vet chat regulars in my experience are helpful so we're just a bunch of nerds here

[oblique totem]

Helpful nerds and clowns. Got it.

[serene bough]

ye

[last parcel]

until everyone goes to sleep/outside, then it becomes misinformation central

[serene bough]

at least the tanner takes are mostly gone

[gilded rock]

You know what? (soyjaks your comment)

Chuds amirite