veteran-class

[inland orchid]

i like the devil claws myself if im unlucky enough to come face to face with a daemonhost

can struggle a lil longer with timed parries

[orchid hemlock]

im a rashad enjoyer

[weak hamlet]

I decided to get myself a good MKVId and test it because I see a lot of people say recon lasguns suck
With a good setup, infernus, playing on crits, etc, they absolutely don't IMO, it's a nice change of pace from the Colomnus while still being a bratabrata vibe

And mine is by no means perfect, it's got infernus, dumdum, crit chance and damage

[crystal heart]

Is survivalist good now?

[tall torrent]

depending on the gun ur using, u might not need it

[crystal heart]

im using the kantrel mg 1a infantry lasgun

[tame lodge]

They used to

They also used to be goated

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[tame lodge]

So I guess it's a rollercoaster huh

[orchid hemlock]

i prefer the MK2, because saving ammo feels nice when ur shit teamates hog all the ammo

[weak hamlet]

I can't use the MKII

Way too slow

The VIIa is alright to me though

Favourite's still the VId

[orchid hemlock]

slow? isn't it the lighter of the 2?

[weak hamlet]

I might be mistaken

[orchid hemlock]

oh u mean the FR?

[weak hamlet]

Yeah you're right

So yeah

[orchid hemlock]

yeah MK2 is 800 RPM, MK6 is 1000

but that's the point, it saves more ammo per shopt

[weak hamlet]

MKII is alright, VIIa is way too slow and VId is funny laserhose

Yeah but you also have way more ammo and thus get more per survivalist proc

[radiant chasm]

viia has cleave

[radiant chasm]

always has been

[weak hamlet]

You mean the best aura in the game ?

Even after the nerf it's still amazing

I've been running nothing but that for a year

[tall torrent]

Mk2 is 666rpm, Mk6d is 1200rpm

6d is almost twice as fast in firerate but dps is still a bit lower

It’s the worst out of the 3

[orchid hemlock]

oh mb i meant 600

wait it's 666?

SATAN?????? 👿

[tall torrent]

They buffed it a little bit

Technically 666.666… so u could round it as 667

[supple stag]

VIIa my beloved

[orchid hemlock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvCL-MqW4s

😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈

[tall torrent]

7a is prob the best among the three

[sly trout]

should I swap the crit chance for something or bump deathspitter up to 4?

[supple stag]

It's like using Agri inf autogun but in recon lasgun version, feels so nice

[tall torrent]

Crit chance is the best perk on this gun

Swap fire frenzy for dum dum imo

[sly trout]

nearly forgot about dum dum lmao, don't have it unlocked at hadron yet but that's definitely what I'll go for

[radiant chasm]

is it? i know it has high finesse but +25% to an important armor is a ton

[tall torrent]

+5% Crit chance on Columnus combined with +5% Crit chance talent gives u overall 31% crit chance

And veteran already has the best damage scaling

[somber axle]

Where are you finding the other 16%

5% base, 5% perk, 5% talent

[last parcel]

crit string fuckery

[somber axle]

That feels like misleading math tbh

LOL

Like the crit string means you get multiple crits but your crit chance to hit that crit lottery is still 15% yeah?

[last parcel]

i cant read so i dont think about it

[somber axle]

Like I see some people recommend Dum Dum + Infernus Recons and am really confused because even with perk and talent you are squeezing by on 15% without Headhunter or Deadshot. Fire rate absolutely does not suddenly turn it into a Flamethrower lighting crowds on fire on 15%

Headhunter + Dum Dum or Headhunter + Infernus. Otherwise you're playing funny slot machine games on your crit chance

Funny crit string math doesn't change that against a target your chance of a shot critting is still pretty abysmal and it's sacrificing a perk slot for another 5%

Feels like one of those things that theoretically could do more damage if you're lucky but more often than not you will not be

[tall torrent]

Not 5% base

[somber axle]

Did Vet base crit chance change? Iirc it was 5% and Psyker gets something like 7.5%

[tall torrent]

5% veteran
-2% infantry autogun
5% perk
5% talent
U end up with 13% crit chance

Plug that into formula
Columnus mk5 has 3-string

3/[3-1+(1/0.13)] = 0.3095 ≈ 31%

[somber axle]

Ok so 13% crit chance but funny crit string math

That sounds like 31% of shots will be crits but not a 31% chance to get crits

[tall torrent]

Same thing

[somber axle]

No

If you had a crit string of 10 but a 1% crit chance funny crit string math would still mean you almost never see it happen

[tall torrent]

13% chance for get crit started, 31% of overall shots will be crits

[last parcel]

it's different because i only do one taps with ciag

[tall torrent]

What matters in the end is 31% of overall shots being crits

[somber axle]

That's the misleading path numbers cat

31% of shots theoretically being crit does not mean 31% crit chance

The crit chance is still way lower

[tall torrent]

.

[somber axle]

The chance of hitting that crit chance on any single target is still abysmal

[tall torrent]

I’ll prob swap terminology

Call it crit rate instead of crit chance

But what rly matters is just that 31% of shots will be crits and that’s enough for it to be strong

And it works vs all enemies

[somber axle]

That sounds closer to the truth of it. As long as like people understand crit chance vs crit rate

[hallow parcel]

I'm just glad yall got it worked out because I was about to go on a math tirade

[gilded rock]

They should make NOLB more accessible

Love muh revive speed

[muted knot]

Fr fr

[lyric dock]

After many many games. I encounter the rare Revive Shout Vet

[ocean moat]

honestly very niche

comes in clutch only during those specific situations where you either cant get to them (pinned down or bodyblocked) or youre busy kiting a horde and need to GTFO\

[lyric dock]

Like in situations where it is useful. It's just having ungimped shout is gonna be a lot better

You're taking a ability that is pretty disposable and now only using it when that "Oh shit" moment happens which if you're in that "Oh shit". Well....That's a lot of digging to get out of that

[umbral scaffold]

surely u drop Bring it down, determined, and onslaught and just path down to desperado / toughness25 / trench fighter drill

and maybe can even get WS

hm prob just pref but if i was playing in auric i would drop a few of those things and jsut get WS

also i wish i stacked stam regen like ur build instead of 5% toughness

think im gonna retinker my curios for that i bet that regen feels nice

[tall torrent]

It’s nice but not mandatory for most weapons

[umbral scaffold]

i got nothin better to do with my time

[tall torrent]

U only rly need it for knife

[umbral scaffold]

ah

i misplay my stam probably a lot. i find myself sprinting into a horde of enemies and just dying.. maybe less so recently

[tall torrent]

On smth like Rashad u don’t have to take stamina regen delay boost

[tall torrent]

Take 3x sprint efficiency

[umbral scaffold]

oh based thats a thing okay. peeping that in the omnissiah rn

15% x 3 so 45%

[tall torrent]

3x sprint efficiency lets u sprint for about 63% longer

[tall torrent]

It’s multiplicative

(1/0.85)^3

[umbral scaffold]

ok and now im gonna talent into vanguard and tac reload and live my best life

[tall torrent]

U don’t need vanguard on top of this

Or tac reload

[umbral scaffold]

is vanguard multiplactive

[tall torrent]

On a recon of all things

[umbral scaffold]

with the thing

[tall torrent]

Sprint efficiency is multiplicative (inverse)

[umbral scaffold]

im just thinking out loud in general maybe not for lasgun build

But ye dropping 5% toughness nodes for sprint efficiency. fuck ye

[tall torrent]

But if u take vanguard path, u should get out for blood

[primal remnant]

What are the ideal blessings for the recon 6d? It just feels like I do no damage

[tall torrent]

Headhunter, dum dum & infernus

It’s still low damage

[umbral scaffold]

infernus > dumdum because you can set the enemies on fire and thats based

[primal remnant]

why not both

[umbral scaffold]

mine has both but i think thats incorrect

[last parcel]

emperor's gift

[umbral scaffold]

@primal remnant they just chatted about this a bit ago if you scroll up some

the smart guys

but also that guy just said Headtaker + Infernus/Dumdum I assume for some crit reasons

[midnight mortar]

Headhunter is needed for synergy with Shocktrooper.

[tall torrent]

U could run infernus + dum dum and cope with crit chance perk as well

[lusty sapphire]

My head automatically does the uwu voice and I hate you for it

[last parcel]

that's why you get your SO to always play crit aura psyker for you

[orchid hemlock]

i dont like not having stam regen, plus onslaught is very nice against crushers if you decide to go on the right side

[primal remnant]

like how I bully my friends into playing survivalist vet when I play my glugger

[tall torrent]

Not needed, bully ur duo zealot into running piety with team-wide crit chance buff

He’s not gonna need the ammo anyway

[last parcel]

i'll do that with my other one

[umbral scaffold]

What im gathering from all of these crit convos and someone else mentioning they wish Leave no one behind was a talent is infiltrate might just be base

based

[primal remnant]

I feel like reciprocity would be the best talent to pair with shock trooper but I don't hear much conversation about it

[umbral scaffold]

if u search that word theres been convos about it

[primal remnant]

What, you want me read??

[umbral scaffold]

apparently its bad some guy legit got bullied for doubling down on it

i was there

[orchid hemlock]

because it is hard to proc unless u r in mele

[primal remnant]

melee is where I always shoot my gun

[orchid hemlock]

no like actually dancing around hordes

[primal remnant]

[lusty sapphire]

Skill issue

[orchid hemlock]

if you try it in game, you will notice that when you are taking the gun out it is very rare you will get more than 2 stacks

also u cna just take this:

[umbral scaffold]

i dont like conditional things like 'if you dodge then you get x' i imagine you have to wait for the swoosh sound for it to begin to register right and ur thinking of other shit when ur in the middle of a horde than waiting around for the swoosh sound

[lusty sapphire]

You don't need to think about it, you just need to play the game and dodge when dodging is needed. I'm not saying it's amazing but if you run weapon specialist you will usually be close enough to keep up 3/4 stacks in fights

[umbral scaffold]

reciprocity stacks?

damn

[lusty sapphire]

I play very aggro with ws equipped most times so in horde fights, when you actually need the extra crit, I managed to keep it at that number

Although i usually don't play it cause i use the talent point for better things such as demo or on your toes

[tall torrent]

because reciprocity is very overrated

[lyric dock]

Getting so close

[primal remnant]

well idk I am just a babbo at vet and they have 800 nodes and my ogryn brain is overheating

[last parcel]

tbf being overrated seems like it would cause conversations about it

[tall torrent]

basically, take reciprocity if ur playing knife / tac axe

[umbral scaffold]

is boltpistol just a worse revolver?

[tall torrent]

no

boltpistol enables an extremely strong grenadier build that wipes everything

[umbral scaffold]

ohh...

[primal remnant]

Is there a link to this build?

[tall torrent]

if u use it purely like a special sniping gun, it's not as good as zarona

if u use it as a special sniping gun that complements a grenadier build, it's quite good

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1185515538475134998/1270955435918229636/Screenshot_2024-08-08_000257.png?ex=66c4be3d&is=66c36cbd&hm=b29c005600575551c3e153ead3981f3e1bd5e5a3632f3c5d4687092658dfcf48&

[primal remnant]

ty

[tall torrent]

power sword + boltpistol

[primal remnant]

How are you guys getting this full tree screenshot

[last parcel]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[primal remnant]

ohhhhh

neat

[tall torrent]

power sword mk6 (elite + maniac, power cycler + brutal momentum/sunder)
boltpistol (elite + maniac, lethal proximity + run&gun)

[pastel yew]

boltpistol build no deadshot?

I cry

[tall torrent]

not needed

run&gun just does the job for u

why bother with ADS sway when hipfire has no sway

and it's a grenadier build

[pastel yew]

deadshot = no sway

deadshot + surgical + lethal accurate

one tap pretty much everything

[tall torrent]

not needed

run&gun gives enough dmg to 1 tap

[pastel yew]

it is if ya dont wanna be sprinting about constantly

[tall torrent]

it's either

u run this like a worse zarona

or

u run this and make an extremely broken grenadier build

[pastel yew]

I don't really agree its a worse zarona for that job though

8 shots

faster reload

one tap everything

[tall torrent]

it is a worse zarona

[pastel yew]

its just shitter against armor and no pierce

[tall torrent]

no bodyshot 1 taps

[pastel yew]

overall the gun is worse

but its not bad at the role

[tall torrent]

worse draw to fire

[pastel yew]

who is body shotting

why would you do that to yourself

[tall torrent]

worse dmg breakpoints

[tall torrent]

zarona doesn't need headshot, boltpistol does

[pastel yew]

1 shot is not a worse breakpoint? its only worse into carapace and mutants

[tall torrent]

that's the difference

again, consistency matters

[pastel yew]

I dont think its hard to consistently hit headshots in this game

[tall torrent]

it's worse vs ragers & maulers as well

[pastel yew]

almost every enemy runs straight at you

[tall torrent]

zarona is 1 tap bodyshot rager

boltpistol takes 2

[pastel yew]

it one taps ragers?

no

only 1

[tall torrent]

a deadly accurate boosted crit headshot, yea

[pastel yew]

to the head not body obviously

yeah but with deadshot and surgical you crit almost every single shot

[tall torrent]

zarona is 1 tap crit doesn't matter where u hit

big difference

[pastel yew]

I dont agree

as hitting head

is easy

[tall torrent]

u can run it with deadshot on it

[pastel yew]

they run straight at you

their head only gets bigger and remains in place

[tall torrent]

but that grenadier build is genuinely

[pastel yew]

its not like csgo or valorant where you need to hit someone 90 degree strafing you

[tall torrent]

top 5 strongest veteran builds

[pastel yew]

probably the shredders are nutty

[tall torrent]

it's strong because lethal proximity buffs explosion radius

[pastel yew]

wait

[tall torrent]

u end up with hilariously large frag blast

[pastel yew]

ON THE GRENADES?!

[tall torrent]

yea

[pastel yew]

holy shit thats

[tall torrent]

it's top5 strongest veteran build

[pastel yew]

you finally found a way

to make lethal proximity

do more than nothing

[tall torrent]

the surgical + DA route does not even come close to how strong it is

[pastel yew]

surgical + da is just a high strength marksman weapon

[tall torrent]

like I said u either run it like a worse zarona or a turbo broken grenadier

[pastel yew]

with more ammo so you can be wasteful and shoot more plebbies

its nice to not have to pick any ammo up usually

or like 1 refil / bag

[tall torrent]

lethal prox + grenade tinkerer gives ur frags 15m blast radius

[pastel yew]

jesus fuckin christ

[tall torrent]

[pastel yew]

how is this still how the game is coded

this has been an issue with so many blessings

[tall torrent]

it's like psyker's EP smite build but instead of killing everything in 8s, it kills everything in 2s

[pastel yew]

regardless if you want to like

yknow

use the bolt pistol

as a weapon

[tall torrent]

80 ragers? no
2 grenades

[pastel yew]

rather than a grenade buff

[tall torrent]

yea the boltpistol is not just there for grenade spam

run&gun eliminates sprint to fire delay

and u just run & gun everything with pinpoint accurate hipfire

[pastel yew]

how accurate is it at mid and long range?

[tall torrent]

very

[pastel yew]

I know it reduces the spread on hipfire bt

[tall torrent]

it's -30% spread

[pastel yew]

hmm hmm

I'll have to check it out

[tall torrent]

gale and I tried it for a few games

[pastel yew]

I wonder if the blessing applies to the zealots molotovs

given they work differently

[tall torrent]

basically, first horde

gale with 2 grenades

has 50k more dmg than me

[pastel yew]

there are some enemies that dont die to two nades worth of bleed

so I wonder if you stack your perks

for that type

if itll gut em

[tall torrent]

maulers

but it does enough dmg to weaken them into 1 shot category for melee

or 1 shot from boltpistol (even bodyshot)

ragers will just die

[pastel yew]

funny build

[tall torrent]

only problem is

[pastel yew]

I do still think bolt pistol is hella fun and strong though

weapon is super slept on

[tall torrent]

u kind of have to run power sword with it

[primal remnant]

cucumber. I am using this so I can search this comment later if need be.

[tall torrent]

because boss dmg not that high

[pastel yew]

truly a problem

think of the poor power sword veteran with his s tier weapon

[tall torrent]

and u can't spare points into melee

[tall torrent]

yea power sword is just there as a low point cost melee

if I could spare points I take rashad 10/10 times

[pastel yew]

mhm its the 0 comittment melee

and yeah rashad is better overall with the boosts, it is nice to have some variety though

[last parcel]

time to hijack your account and spam chat with cucumber to muddy the waters

[pastel yew]

the power cancel shove attack into light on crushers tho is

aaaaaaaaa

maximum dopamine

power sword nailing what the thunder hammers fail at

[primal remnant]

How come the grenadier build doesn't run the talent literally called grenadier that gives you +1 grenade

[tall torrent]

not necessary

[pastel yew]

because you're unlikely to have 4 nades I imagine

you already have 3

[tall torrent]

would u rather take +25% melee/ranged dmg
or have 1 extra grenade in ur pocket

[pastel yew]

if you'r'e using them as your primary horde clear thats 4 minutes of not using them

[tall torrent]

which one sounds more fun to u

[primal remnant]

Normally a valid question, but doesn't this build center on grenade use?

[tall torrent]

yea

u throw nades at mass elites

and watch them disappear in 2s

but u don't want to throw grenades at every single problem

there's a reason u take power sword & boltpistol

[primal remnant]

clearly you do not know who you are talking to

[last parcel]

i am not in danger skyler

[tall torrent]

also lethal prox's +25% explosion blast radius works even when u don't have the gun in ur hand

it's a passive buff

[pastel yew]

even if you had a powersword equipped? then pulled out your nades

[heavy rover]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hartwell-white-sr-heisenberg-bryan-cranston-gif-16636350

[pastel yew]

thats not usually how this song n dance usually goes if so

very strange

[last parcel]

[primal remnant]

WALTUH

I DONT HAVE TIME TO EXPLAIN WALTUH JUST GET IN THE VALKYRIE

[tall torrent]

the best way to describe that grenadier build is like

imagine if a power sword veteran could throw ogryn nukes every minute

because that's genuinely how that build plays like

[pastel yew]

I feel like the gimick would wear thin though

[tall torrent]

what's the gimmick

[pastel yew]

mad grenades at horde

[oblique totem]

Grenades are great though

[pastel yew]

not a lot of like.. player interaction there

[tall torrent]

not rly? u only rly need grenades vs like

big gunner/shotgunner/rager/mauler wave

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-brooklyn-nine-nine-grenades-anger-weapon-gif-16979865

[tall torrent]

if u believe hard enough u can wipe gunner spawn in comms plex first event all the way from the hacking terminal

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/backstreet-boys-i-want-it-that-way-gif-10539704750111704602

[tall torrent]

and it's not like EP smite where it not only makes ur gameplay boring, it also makes other people's gameplay boring

in this case it just makes other people's gameplay boring because ur killing things so fast they don't get to hit things

it's entirely coincidental that the best melee for this build is power sword

ofc boltpistol + powersword

it even goes with commissar RP

[pastel yew]

omfg

I just tested it in the psykanium

the range is fucking massive

[umbral scaffold]

79% pen time to vendor it

[pastel yew]

brick, only 79% pen

yeah

tbf

you could just

sit on it

crafting update soon

you jinxed yourself

[umbral scaffold]

as backup wisely taught us the crafting update will save u

believe in the update

[old prism]

ya sit on it, pretty godly axe after the changes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1271467065102045234/image.png?ex=66c4a07b&is=66c34efb&hm=53fc25c17499afde3aee1dd7a44e9d0442fbd93049facd2f2fdb2b3c7c2ba7e0&

mandatory shit I'm waiting to fix post

[austere mica]

That’s a really good vet knife

[old prism]

zealot

[austere mica]

Switch the perks

[old prism]

unfortunately

[austere mica]

Unfortunate

Yes it is

[old prism]

i do kinda agree with you on that one az

[austere mica]

It has 4 damage stats and mobility can go as low as like 30% or something

[old prism]

it is not so bad to have %60 mobility tho, ain't going down so much. I wouldn't dump more

[austere mica]

Knife is already so faster extra mobility doesn’t sound useful

[old prism]

i wonder how the new system's gonna function

want a %100 mobility knife

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1225405415055949925/image.png?ex=66c47cb9&is=66c32b39&hm=2e1e87c5d009bd30bc9034a55f460c422ae8819c1e4598442f2ca8830340246c&

wish it was defences but

it is what it is

gonna fix this one as well

[lavish token]

Not having the mod that caps them at 80 is pain

[old prism]

I have one that's almost the same as this revo,

missing %2 instead of %1 tho

[lavish token]

I have a god rolled revolver that got instant bricked lmao

[old prism]

oof

still the same cap? didn't read any info

[lavish token]

I burned through 6 mil today buying crushers

[old prism]

[lavish token]

No 380s

[old prism]

that sounds about right from what I can tell

maybe around %7-8

in my experience

[lavish token]

I was rolling 100 at a time, got 12 370 bases out of 6 rolls

[old prism]

I also did do a mass buy on curios from melk just to see the odds, around 100k melkbucks I think. Should've kept the records

I think I got only 1 17 toughness curio from that

[lavish token]

The milk man at it again

[old prism]

I already have perfect ones 😦

ok maybe I'll take em for my psyker

I prefer gunner resistance over %5 hp

%40

[lavish token]

I do

[old prism]

the only thing I ain't gaining consistent toughness back on zealot is reaper and gunner spraydowns so I do like running as much dmg red as possible against them

[radiant chasm]

is rending strikes worth it for ciag?

[old prism]

everything else is trivial imo

[neon estuary]

hows this for a revolver! >:3

[old prism]

onslaught > rending strikes imo but rending strikes is so easy to acquire

[lavish token]

Lmaooo

[radiant chasm]

one day i will have an entire armor set in this camo

anytime now fatshark

[old prism]

F on crit bonus man, still decent tho.

[lavish token]

Surgical on an agri

[old prism]

That mostly works in ideal conditions tho, and they still get chip damage in between your slides especially if you are busy fighting something else

[tall torrent]

isn't every weapon going to be able to reach 380

[old prism]

I value consistency over the %5 hp, i aint taking hp dmg on zealot anyways

[tall torrent]

but like, outside of select few, most weapons don't need super specific high rolls

besides rashad, antax and plasma I can't name any other vet weapon that need 77+ in dmg specific stuff

[old prism]

agripinaa shotgun has specific breakpoints

[lavish token]

Mk6 psword

[tall torrent]

mg12 with max dmg roll doesn't hit 1 taps without a myriad of buffs still

[lavish token]

80 for a crit light one shot on a mauler

[radiant chasm]

I DON'T WANNA PLAY ANOTHER VIGIL STATION

AHHH

[old prism]

mk6 is too good on breakpoints imo

[lavish token]

Just don’t qp

[last parcel]

oblivium these nuts

[old prism]

a decent roll is enough to roll through content

[radiant chasm]

i'm doing the event modifier

[lavish token]

Unfortunate

[radiant chasm]

it's been vigil station->silo cluster->vigil station

[old prism]

lmao shush bro don't let em know

[radiant chasm]

wdym expose

rashad is op

[lavish token]

Just nerf bromentum

[austere mica]

Low crit bonus and Agri revolver likes other crit blessings better

[lavish token]

I had someone tell me that the mk2 evis is better

[old prism]

I have an all for nothing headtaker max martyrdom axe + all damage related points and good perks = one shotting literally everything

someone called me a cheater because I was one tapping literally everything

[lavish token]

I got called a cheater for exec stance today

[old prism]

lmao

you have wallhacks eh?

plasma is too op

we will see what fatshark decides to do with it

[lavish token]

It was a grey plasma

I just had one

[old prism]

zarona requires downtime with reloads unless you go full reload speed or weapon specialist

naw I know I have the exact same build lmao

plasma imo is way more consistent and has much better cleave

also vcan shoot like 40 times

But I do agree nothing tops zarona dmg

[tall torrent]

uncharged shot cleave, maybe ammo cost
maybe nerf carapace & flak ADM

[old prism]

yea it's too powerful with uncharged shots defo

cleave needs to be toned down

[lavish token]

Both are above where they should be

[radiant chasm]

teammate plasma gun

[tall torrent]

yea after longshot nerf it's not rly close anymore

[radiant chasm]

🫡

[tall torrent]

drop uncharged cleave from 100 to 7 or smth

[radiant chasm]

didn't they drop it to 50 already

hoe dmg

saints row type buff

inspecting their weapon

[tall torrent]

No

[last parcel]

just be born with the formulas memorized

[old prism]

needing to look up the damage formula on the code itself just to understand what in the absolute fuck is going on was the best thing I had to do on darktide

[tall torrent]

I’ve seen worse

[old prism]

The thing about plasma is it doesn't need perfect conditions to absolutely mow anything the game throws at you, zarona needs you to pop your exec stance with a trillion dmg amps on it to reach the absolutely beautiful dmg numbers

[tall torrent]

+2 stam
+15% sprint efficiency
Volatile 3
Shattering impact 3
63 damage
72 stopping power

[tall torrent]

Nah

[old prism]

I have a build that one shots all specials + 2 shots muties without any ultimate effects going, that makes me consistent in my dps output

[tall torrent]

Plasma has more conditions than Zarona

[weary acorn]

is the atrox a good axe?

[tall torrent]

If u build for it Zarona can be even more forgiving than it already is

[old prism]

%100 agree on this tho, definitely more forgiving and way better on melee builds

[tall torrent]

Plasma needs 78+ in damage and 77+ in stopping power with +% elite damage as perk requirement on top of superiority complex and at least 2x +5% ranged damage nodes (can replace with fire team) on top of redirect fire

[old prism]

but I always feel way more consistent with plasma over any gun veteran has, doesn't matter what type of mode I'm playin

[tall torrent]

It’s way way way more investment than Zarona

[old prism]

I was referring to the absolute boss murder damage numbers, not overall breakpoints. Also the only investment you need is focus target keystone with the small node that gives dmg amp on all teammates

That + 25 maniac is enough to kill a flamethrower in one shot all ranges

[tall torrent]

+25% maniac is just shy of bodyshot 1 tap flamer

Maniac doesn’t do much for plasma

[old prism]

+dmg amp from focus target keystone you get from killing tagged enemy stacks

[tall torrent]

Yes, with that stack, it’s just shy of bodyshot 1 tap flamer

[old prism]

huh, what is your plasma might I ask

[tall torrent]

78 in damage & stopping power

[old prism]

brb gotta do quick testing maybe I'm misremembering something

[tall torrent]

For flamer bodyshot u need stuff like agile engagement on top of maniac

Or 8 stacks (but it’s not worth)

Or ur waiting for stacks on focus target

[midnight mortar]

Rashad.

[old prism]

alr did some quick testing with this plasma rifle

fire team + %10 range dmg node + 8 stacks of redirect fire is enough to one tap a flamer at any distance

[tall torrent]

Yea u need more than the standard set-up

Fire team + 8 stacks

It’s not very worth imo

[old prism]

8 stacks is not an issue tho

it's always 8 stacks as long as you are pinging something

it never drops off

[tall torrent]

8 stacks is only 4.5% more damage than without

It’s just not worth 1 point

[old prism]

naw, 8 stacks is %12 dmg

[tall torrent]

8 stacks + RF is 12%

RF alone is 7.5%

[lyric dock]

Oh. Okay Hadron

[tall torrent]

So u only gain 4.5% from spending 1 point into 8 stacks

Which is really just not worth it

[old prism]

i am not pinging the flamethrowers I only have 8 stacks of RF

[lyric dock]

Just give me a great Power sword 3 when I want to scalp it for blessings

[old prism]

its a consistent %12 dmg boost on everybody on your team the entire game

[tall torrent]

Also this is missing gunner 1HS pretty sure

80% damage roll still needs +elite to get Dreg gunner 1HS

[somber axle]

Would Blaze Away stacks push you into that breakpoint? Like 2nd+ shots all hitting 1HKO

[old prism]

yea just about misses it with 12 dmg on gunners

let me see real quick with lm

[tall torrent]

Yea, but counting on blaze away for a standard breakpoint is peak copium imo

[old prism]

I am not counting in longshot tho

[somber axle]

Yeah LOL

[tall torrent]

U shouldn’t need to

Longshot is not worth taking anymore

[old prism]

yea it is not so good anymore

it gives you the consistent gunner breakpoint tho

[tall torrent]

I’m ngl

If u need

All those talents

3 point extra ? On top of a regular plasma set-up

[old prism]

o yeah

[tall torrent]

I think u should just call it quits on plasma

[old prism]

I only had %5 range dmg with testing

[tall torrent]

lol

[old prism]

in my regular plas build i have %10

[somber axle]

That sounds excessive but like how excessive can it be compared to Onslaught Rending Strikes Shock Trooper Recon

Follow your dreams

[old prism]

I path through frags, this gets you to one tap gunners and all specials except mutie

[tall torrent]

Plasma has good point economy but still has to take specific nodes

[somber axle]

What about Exe Stance Plasma

[tall torrent]

Exe stance is simple

[old prism]

It's up %100 of the time with a good build tho, that's what I'm saying

[tall torrent]

U one shot every special besides mutant with exe stance plasma through walls

[old prism]

you do kill gunners in one hs

[tall torrent]

Including bodyshot

[old prism]

i am running voc, not exec

[tall torrent]

I don’t think exe stance plasma is particularly great but it can be fun

[old prism]

way better sustain in long term imo even though you are sacrificing dmg

[radiant chasm]

he died 4 times to horde and bruisers 😦

[trim steppe]

It's crazy to me how many lvl 500+ players have rolled crit damage onto their weapons. I know FS doesn't explain it at all so it seems good, but after so much time you'd think they would have looked into it

[tall torrent]

I have a godroll plasma just waiting for itemization update

[radiant chasm]

i mean like

you can just

look at the crit/weakspot table

and do basic math, not even the hard number crunching like

oh crits and weakspts don't do a lot for this weapon

[trim steppe]

Its not that, its that you think that the whole crit damage number gets multiplied by 110%. But its only the extra damage over a normal hit that gets multiplied, so its literally always ass to take as a perk

[radiant chasm]

also kinda true

[trim steppe]

If it was the whole number getting multiplied, it might be worth taking sometimes

[tall torrent]

it could be worse

[old prism]

oh no what happened to that poor illisi

[tall torrent]

an actually good illisi getting butchered by blazing spirit

[old prism]

that is a crime

[tall torrent]

[old prism]

should be at least lmao

[old prism]

yknow this shit was the same in vermintide. I never understood why crit damage bonus is a component in a goddamn damage diagram instead of a multiplier after the damage gets calculated.

fatshark magic is what I tell people now

[radiant chasm]

especially when 25% damage and 10% damage elite/specs gets applied to the whole

[old prism]

if they actually change how they work at all, crit damage and weakspot might be really god tier perks tho

i can already imagine how juicy some breakpoints would be

crit damage (multiplied version) + gun psyker columnus mk5 =

[trim steppe]

peak cope lol. but yeah probably

[old prism]

all I have is cope man 😦

[umbral scaffold]

Fatshark when you tell them you can do (base+crit)*perk instead of base+crit*perk

Yesterday I failed at 12/15 for Flawless Execution via barrel explosion, today I failed at 10/15 during work via barrel explosion, work is over and its time to try again 😤 thanks for coming to my blog

[thorn lark]

oops typo

[umbral scaffold]

where whom when

[lusty sapphire]

Is it me or do trappers not make noise sometimes when there's too many specials spawning?

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah, been an issue for a bit

[primal remnant]

I have been spoiled by Determined

what are peoples thoughts on the Marksman keystone

[umbral scaffold]

it ok

[tall torrent]

not every weapon needs it

[radiant chasm]

very skill rewarding and not every weapon uses it well

if you can keep tapping heads you'll do just fine

[misty delta]

I feel like I’d rather have focus target over marksman on any build

[lyric dock]

One down. 3 to go

[sinful swallow]

My friends and I just did karnac twins on 3, 6min runs

[lyric dock]

Best advice is Blow up any all barrels you see

[austere mica]

Maniac, Unyielding, or Carapace

[lyric dock]

I say Carapace

[eager pelican]

id like to know if my builds any good but i cant post screens, do i just need to wait a bit?

[lyric dock]

And then once you upgrade to Hand Cannon 4 you can change it something else

[austere mica]

You need to talk

[lyric dock]

Keep chatting and you'll upgrade

[eager pelican]

o7

[umbral scaffold]

yall still doin those..

https://tenor.com/view/mean-tweets-gif-22797384

[austere mica]

Cara might actually be totally benfical as it takes 5 rounds to kill a crusher on average

[eager pelican]

word?

[austere mica]

Otherwise its unyielding to fuck up bosses harder

Aaaaand out of plasteel

[umbral scaffold]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor post em here

[eager pelican]

1 sec

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ccebddc-7c71-481b-ac10-ac9faf1c02ff

this is it

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ccebddc-7c71-481b-ac10-ac9faf1c02ff and this is a version where i take voc

[primal remnant]

Hadron, you beautiful lady who touches my guns

[eager pelican]

so any suggestions? my trinkets and gear is far from bis i am aware

i am able to 2 shot crushers and maulers up to heresy difficulty on either build i just feel my boss dmg is a bit lacking

[lyric dock]

For your VOC set

• Competitive urge should be replaced for Bring it down. Comp urge has a very low chance of proccing
• Crit damage on the revolver is quite bad because the bonus you get is very minimal due to how it calulates (Someone much smarter can explain). That should be replaced for something like Flak, Carapace, Manic
• Glory hunter should be replaced for Hand Cannon
• Melee would need to be redone

[eager pelican]

i am a krieger larp

[austere mica]

That build needs some work

[eager pelican]

as for comp urge

as far asi thought

it proc'd on ANY kill eveny the hundreds of little shitters

[lyric dock]

Lot of times it'll either proc when there's nothing notable to use the buffs on

Or is just overkill on fodder

While Bring it down bumps up your damage to monsters and general ogryn class enemies

[eager pelican]

yeah i take that on my main build

[austere mica]

Nevermind link didn't work

[lyric dock]

[umbral scaffold]

Competitive urge suffers from a bit of a dissonance

If the team is killing shit fast enough to proc it consistently, then it's not necessary in the first place

[lyric dock]

Determined will help with the Revolver as you don't get your aim knocked around firing at gunners

The number of times head shots whiff because of that damn suppression on my Zealot

[tall torrent]

Just use this

[tall torrent]

zarona hipfire is suppression immune & very accurate

[lyric dock]

Fair. I always tend to ADS for Surgical

[austere mica]

Godamnit

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ccec563-97b7-4c0e-9bf0-8679230668de here we go

Same general shape but should work much better

[eager pelican]

i have one of those i just pref ff

[trim steppe]

I haven't played in a bit, how are the boltpistol and shock maul?

[tall torrent]

what's ff

[eager pelican]

cant take rending strikes cause i use dead shot

[austere mica]

Deadshot isn't really needed

[eager pelican]

apologies focus target

[austere mica]

You already hit 100% crit easily

[tall torrent]

boltpistol grenadier is top 5 strongest veteran build

[eager pelican]

how can you tell?

[austere mica]

Surgical

Also math

[lyric dock]

And then they fix the interaction and ruin the build

[austere mica]

Surgical lets you hit 100% crit within like

2.4 seconds

[eager pelican]

i was told if im supressed i can just slide

and i dont think rending is good unless i have an autogun?

[austere mica]

Rending is always a good idea

[primal remnant]

Whats a good ciag build

[eager pelican]

what does it do exactly?

[primal remnant]

better damage against armor

its a little more complicated than that, but thats the gist

[austere mica]

Basically armor piercing

[eager pelican]

id take it if it was 20

[austere mica]

Now that I think rending strikes is basically not needed for this build because Handcannon and Uncanny so you could drop it for Determined or Deadshot

[tall torrent]

No

[austere mica]

Yeah I got there

Look directly above your message

[eager pelican]

like why would i take rend over redirct fire which is like 12% for my whole team for every enemy

[tall torrent]

Redirect fire is 7.5%

[austere mica]

I just said you can drop it

[eager pelican]

my b then ig i didnt see

[primal remnant]

Really, no fully loaded?

[eager pelican]

8 stacks?

is it a rounding thing within the game?

[austere mica]

With your setup you don't have 8

[eager pelican]

if i did swap things around to get 8?

[austere mica]

Generally not worth it

[tall torrent]

8 stacks is not worth taking

(Basically ever)

[eager pelican]

aight

[austere mica]

It works for boss damage I guess

But you could do something better with that point

[tall torrent]

Not worth it still

[idle swallow]

the devs put in the 8 stacks node as a prank on newer players

[tall torrent]

I think the difference 8 stacks makes is generally negligible

It’s not nothing but it’s not so much more damage that matters in much faster boss kill tbh

And refraining from tagging in lights out is kinda

[idle swallow]

Vet gets so many juicy nodes near the bottom, I always see a better node in reach compared to 8 stacks

[eager pelican]

anyways ty for the input ill try to get better gear in the mean time

[idle swallow]

Keep an eye out for 76+ base stat curios from melk and robo gun seller, those are always a bastard to get specifically

[eager pelican]

ill do carapace i think

[eager pelican]

o7

[primal remnant]

"I don't understand the hype behind the power sword, its attacks seem like worse 3g chainsword attacks"

After getting Power Cycler:

[idle swallow]

someone's eventually gonna do solo auric maelstrom with no power up psword only as the ultimate flex, that'll be the true John Darktide

[tall torrent]

Unpower sword is usable just not good

[idle swallow]

big ol butter knife

with sad slap sfx when uncharged

[last parcel]

it feels like a fat dclaw without the flak cleave dmg distribution

maybe that’s why they call it sword

[oblique totem]

Sord

[fading yarrow]

Words cannot describe the rancid, seething hatred I have for the Phage Tree mission

Just ran it on Damnation

It was hectic but manageable until the final stage

[last parcel]

hel dreyko

[fading yarrow]

Carried hard with Voice of Command while that Godforsaken gadget served as a final boss that no monstrosity could dream of matching

[last parcel]

at least the correct answers stay the same if you’re knocked out

[fading yarrow]

If they did I was too hopped up on stims to notice

[frank ether]

dont diss the longsword

it will have to do till vet gets more swords

[fading yarrow]

I'm just glad my team was able to pull through when I finally died after lingering on one wound for the longest five minutes the Warp could strain

And in the end, it was worf

[faint beacon]

You ever just get launched off the map onto a ledge by one of your teammates in which the Monstrosity immediately took advantage and instantly kills you

yeah I had that happen

[last parcel]

hehe i do that to people

[faint beacon]

I makes me lose hope with playing with randoms

[last parcel]

you still had hope?

taps loading screen

[scarlet path]

Power cycler IV is a glimpse into the power it had pre nerf

[scarlet path]

HERETICAL BEHAIVOR

This WILL be reported to the nearest commissar

[faint beacon]

grendyl will hear of this

[last parcel]

melk is telling me toughnessmax

[umbral scaffold]

I want someone to nuzzle my neck wecky

[primal remnant]

this has "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power" energy

[scarlet path]

It truly was something else

[slow sky]

so much fucking pain

[scarlet path]

Just learn deathspitter and go for a better one I guess

[slow sky]

good enough for me

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-cats-kitten-kittens-gif-16242765

[umbral scaffold]

real

[mortal orbit]

Any of you sigmers have advice for banging out be methodical?

[last parcel]

i forgot whiche on that was ll

[mortal orbit]

20 consec seconds of exe stance

Five times

This is worse than make it count

[thorn lark]

take a ciag and play in damnation

[last parcel]

extend on kill + ranged shooter highlight
large mag gun can help
high intensity
shoot yellow people

[umbral scaffold]

vietnam

[uncut pebble]

I used an infantry lasgun for mine.

[thorn lark]

yeah you want extend on kill and ranged highlight

[uncut pebble]

Made those kills a bit easier because 1tap headshots.

And using ciag at range is... a bit difficult. (for me, at least)

[mortal orbit]

You blessed veterinarians

[wise fossil]

Audio issues in this game are wild. Maybe 1/3 times a melee attack is incoming I'll get the audio prompt

[sleek garden]

this has got to be the easiest one, take an infantry autogun and click heads

or infantry lasgun

i use an infantry lasgun for it the headshot damage is super spiky

[sleek garden]

what this fellow says

[mortal orbit]

Ill try the ranged highlight, havent given it a go

[low kelp]

What blessings do you use on columnus mk V?

[last parcel]

dumdum
then it's your choice*. deathspitter/fire frenzy is the main choice, while raking fire/stripped down have some niche use.
*it's more important to fix the perks after you get dumdum. ||the main choices are crit chance, then flak, then maniac||

[low kelp]

So swap the flak to crit chance?

[last parcel]

the difference isn't that big imo. feel free to try out both

dang lost a dodge by 1 mobility

nice roll otherwise though

[jaunty tinsel]

is there anything else, other than ammo, that the las pistol has over the bolt pistol?

weighing the two options for my melee build and it seems like bolt pistol is just better in every way for what i want

[radiant chasm]

Ammo, mobility, accuracy and recoil

[jaunty tinsel]

las pistol is faster than bolt pistol?

[radiant chasm]

If you are going melee build, you probbaly won’t need anti armor

[radiant chasm]

Much faster lol

[jaunty tinsel]

the point of the gun here is to delete specialists and other pesky ranged types i cant reach

[radiant chasm]

Las pistol just goes dum dum infernus and guns down enemies

Yes and bistol struggles with bps, has bad sway and recoil

Laspistol you just click heads

[jaunty tinsel]

got it

[radiant chasm]

I forgot which las pistol is the good one rn

[last parcel]

II

[radiant chasm]

One is good one is bad

[jaunty tinsel]

i currently have X, thats the slower one

[tall torrent]

Yes, laspistol is better for that

[jaunty tinsel]

brown one

[tall torrent]

Mk2 is the better one

Ghost + dum dum

[jaunty tinsel]

kk

[last parcel]

i can't even kill myself with a mk X because of the adm

[tough tiger]

Uh hello vet chat

Is the rinda karnak rematch supposed to just be a single encounter?

[last parcel]

yeah just once per mission

[tough tiger]

I played a game with the new special condition but i only ran into her once

[tough tiger]

Absolutely cringe

💀

[austere mica]

Yeah she only shows up once and gets annihilated

[tough tiger]

All that hype

[austere mica]

She should get gas mines

[last parcel]

shows up
gets stabbed by 4 hobos and dies in 35 seconds
leaves

doesn't even show up to fight auric operatives

[tough tiger]

Yeah her brother gives her so much room to work with the gas shit

[lucid hinge]

I miss him

I want the goofy gas back

[tough tiger]

Now she's just a scab captain on roids

A dclaw can easily neuter her

[austere mica]

Dclaw actual has a bit of an issue with her as she has a lot of knockback and switches targets

Achlys magdump though?

She can survive the first one

Barely

[tough tiger]

Not even a shield to save her

[lucid hinge]

Surprised they removed her shield

I assume she'll have something new in whatever comes next

(this is copium)

[last parcel]

no protection for her

[lucid hinge]

She'll have a literal meat shield

[shadow urchin]

Just a heads up for all the lads and lassies out there who like stabbing things. There's this bug where if you do a Special+Charged Sprinting Heavy it won't deal any damage.

https://youtu.be/mBam8Cz_t_o

[shadow urchin]

https://youtu.be/Kz2yCJAZ-Fs

[grand perch]

The punch is basically useless anyway imo

[hollow turtle]

By any chance, did I miss a few buffs regarding the recon lasguns in the last few updates?

[last parcel]

secrets of the machine god last month buffed them

[shadow urchin]

But on the MK 6 it lets you bypass the vanguards into the strikedown, allowing you to do a lot more single-target damage.

[jaunty tinsel]

what're your guys' favorite blessings on sapper shovels?

[rigid mulch]

Bonk

[jaunty tinsel]

that isn't a blessing

[slow sky]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[crimson pebble]

Enlightenment

[crude fiber]

When I use them, (which isn't very often) I usually go all in on the niche of them and try to 1 shot crushers and maulers with thrust and skullcrusher

[grand perch]

Oh ok that is useful. I usually go for push attacks instead

[shadow urchin]

Happy to help! Also, punching things is fun.

[slow sky]

but then you have to deal with the

[umbral scaffold]

ah yes

I hate the

bit miffed it's still in the game

[shadow urchin]

Ah yes, the is really a pain.

No one likes dealing with the

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-uhh-floppa-confused-the-god-damn-gif-20108671

[hollow turtle]

It is strange to see "genestealer" assets in the game files.

[crimson pebble]

Iv had that happen but looking up instead of down w plasma

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/vsechlapy-fishing-gif-20087420

[hollow turtle]

Lol k

[vivid silo]

A bit late, but it seemed like you didn't get much of an answer. It's really hard to get around Uncanny Strike if you are looking for general damage that is easy and consistent to apply. Decimator is also pretty good, but harder to have constant uptime of in my experience. Thrust only works effectively on the foldable shovels since you can use it to reach breakpoints with the special attacks. Otherwise it's generally more effective to not hold your heavies and simply let them go ASAP for clearing hordes.

If you are looking for more crowd control-oriented playstyle Hammerblow and Thunderstrike are hilarious to combine (or either one with Skullcrusher).

Special mention to Take a Swing for some real BONKING schenanigans!

[wet anvil]

Good day veterans

What gun should I build

[odd sparrow]

Depends on what youre looking for.

Big brrr is columnus mk V or recons
One taps is plasma/zarona/bolter
Shotguns for close range poppin

[dense tartan]

I'm trying for the weapon specialist penance. I'm getting about 30 weakspot kills on specialists per mission. Is that good going? Is there an optimized build?

[rapid egret]

have they stated when the next update will come out yet?

[dense tartan]

No but roumoured to be septerber

[oblique totem]

Acquire firearm. Disregard heresy.

[loud crescent]

No 80% penetration, should probably scrap it?

[uncut pebble]

No???

[lyric dock]

No not at all

Thr revolver isn't like the Rashad where you need it be near perfect in everything. There's a bit of wiggle room with it

[stiff glacier]

I got rashad with 58 pen and it works fine

[lyric dock]

Lot of it is getting reliable 1 taps on Bruisers iirc

[limber rune]

is the new shotgun any good?

[tame lodge]

Yeah, specially but not exclusively at close range

Is that clear? I hope so

[dense tartan]

8 days till the event ends so I could be.

[dense tartan]

I tried a selection of weapons. I thought the knife would be good. But chainsword has over head slashes that hit heads. Powersword doesn't do it because the slashes hit shoulders first.

Bolt pistol, while not amazing accuracy, does one shot heads. Better than Laspistol

[stiff glacier]

Revolver

And axe with bm

[dense tartan]

An ax with bad manners?

[stiff glacier]

Brutal momentum

Terrible blessing name to use acronym

[tame lodge]

My BM is not associated with the axe

[stiff glacier]

[hybrid token]

What you doin down there blud

[lavish token]

The bolt pistol is no where near the mk2 laspistol

[mortal orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-triple-h-suckit-dx-dgeneration-x-gif-10949281

The only laspistol that exists

[oblique totem]

Guys I need help.
Which braced autogun should I go for?

[midnight totem]

Agrip

[dense tartan]

I like the Cumulus

[oblique totem]

Hmm

[grand perch]

columnus is my preferred one as well. but it lacks the higher cleave of the agrip

[oblique totem]

I'm looking for something that will tear through hoards best.

[grand perch]

well thats the agrip, but dont go wasting ammo on poxwalker hordes please

mixed hordes are fair game

[dense tartan]

That being said my best gun is currently an graia

[oblique totem]

Nah everyone gets a bullet

Or, you know, ten bullets

[dense tartan]

Shotgun with the wide spread alt fire is best for hoard clearance

[oblique totem]

Something meaning a braced autogun. Sorry, should have been clearer

I know I'm not supposed to use ammo on trash hoards, but I can't help it.

[thorn lark]

It's fine if you need to make room for a rez or take care of the elites inside. Or at the end of the run.

[oblique totem]

It does something to my brain. I see a hoard and it goes 'enfilade fire' and I just start blasting.

[gilded wraith]

Just understand that it's also fine to vote kick you if you're lower the groups chance of success pissing away ammo. I'd consider survivalist mandatory.

[oblique totem]

I don't make it the teams problem, if that's what you mean.

[vapid nacelle]

how could I improve this guy once I get more shovels

[delicate hornet]

realistically i dont think u need +maniac damage since the special can reliably oneshot them without it, id also check whether mobility is dropping ur dodge count as its dumped so low

[last parcel]

you need >=51 to have all dodges (besides knife and force sword)

[woven hazel]

any perks I should run on the parry sword? seems really fun to use

[last parcel]

mainly +flak damage

[woven hazel]

okay what about blessings?

[oblique totem]

Flak is most common armor type, yeah?

[mortal orbit]

Not the most common, but it covers bruisers/mauler/scabgun/ragers which take longer to murder depending on the weapon

Right behind maniac, cus fuck those guys

[last parcel]

rampage
then i go shred but someone else can weigh in

[last parcel]

it takes a lot longer with devils claw because hitting flak in cleave does a third of the damage

[mortal orbit]

NGL i like hammerblow. Devils claw will never kill flak fast enough

But you knock them around like theyre lightweights with hammerblow

Gives u a window to set one up for a parry, rinse/repeat

Ya i didnt see the parry sword comment. Dont take my advice as the word, jus the strat i used to deal with how crap the flak damage is

[woven hazel]

which devil claw sword should I use

[lusty sapphire]

Mk7 has a better moveset

But mk4 is also a viable option

[lusty sapphire]

You lose 1 ovehead light in the combos tho

[lusty sapphire]

You know what? I'll try it with shred. I have a semi bricked mk7 anyways

[woven hazel]

mmm so then mk4 is better in anyway then or?

[mortal orbit]

Shred is nutty with rampage, insta horde blender

[lusty sapphire]

So mk4 has a heavy overhead as a first attack and then a heavy sweep. All the other attacks in the light chain are just "sweeps"

[mortal orbit]

But hammerblow is fun, its like wielding a pimp hand

[lusty sapphire]

The mk7 has a heavy sweep first attack and then an overhead but the light chain also has an overhead so you have both horde and a single target dmg combo

[mortal orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/method-man-redman-baby-powder-slap-gif-13489586

[real iron]

what should i add on the mk4 chainsword

but i cannot add picture

[lusty sapphire]

@woven hazel mini completely random demonstration so that you can see how they move differently. The best advice I can give is just try a bunch of grey or blue ones and see what moveset you like more

[lusty sapphire]

Shred/rampage

[oblique totem]

I hope to one day parry kill a daemon host with the devil claw

[real iron]

it's above 70 on all stats

i got shred and rampage

and i added flak damage

[lusty sapphire]

Perfect then

What the second perk?

Honestly anything works, maniac, unyielding even carapace for the special dmg

[real iron]

carapace is the second one

i think

[lusty sapphire]

Still good

[real iron]

i'll tell u precisely what i got

after i finish this one

no so i got

@lusty sapphire

bloodletter and rampage

25% flak armoured damage

and 20% carapace armoured damage

[lusty sapphire]

Bloodletter a bit of a niche thing

Not the best

Funny tho

[real iron]

should i change it with shred?

[lusty sapphire]

Yeah

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-24582703

[primal remnant]

Should I keep weapons that roll good stats even if the blessings and perks aren't ideal

[lucid hinge]

yes

save them for the update

[last parcel]

the coming itemization update will remove locks so yes

[primal remnant]

good because this is a great roll

[tame lodge]

40k version of the Commando

[rigid mulch]

It's

Just a 'man portable' hurricane bolter

[bleak jackal]

no

its a mega super turbo tornado bolter with bullpup configuration

we would never get our hands on Space Marine armory

[lunar jasper]

Dear god

[oblique totem]

So there are good rolls

[stark cove]

It’s beautiful

[primal remnant]

it got better once I got the plasteel to transcendent it

now I just need Infernus

so I can stick it on there

OK THEN

Ask and ye shall recieve

[faint beacon]

Honestly try to shoot for Infernus IV imo

More burn stacks are super silly

[primal remnant]

I will, but 3 will work until I get there

[faint beacon]

But if the slots get to be too much III will work

[primal remnant]

I buy grays and turn them blue to get more, unless there's a more efficient way I don't know about

[faint beacon]

You haven’t edited anything on it yet right?

Cause this is an actual god roll

[primal remnant]

I swapped stripped down for infernus

but yeah

[faint beacon]

Unyield to Flak

[primal remnant]

Thats the next step but sadly

[faint beacon]

Literally win button

[last parcel]

you can also check melk’s shop for blessings to sacrifice

[faint beacon]

I

Forget about that sometimes

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-no-money-gif-20136585

[faint beacon]

Yeah honestly wouldn’t hurt to give a peek

[primal remnant]

Oooh, I forgot to do that today

I thought of you bby

[supple stag]

Recon Lasgun sweep

[last parcel]

you can even check it on a psyker alt if you have once since they have recons too

[oblique totem]

What is this?

[last parcel]

owo

notices your lasgun

[somber axle]

LMFAO nice

[oblique totem]

I noticed the name more but yeah

My search for greater and greater dakka continues

[somber axle]

doesn't the Graia Brauto get a very funny rate of fire increase when braced

[last parcel]

yes

[somber axle]

try that for Vet dakka

use with weapon specialist for even FASTER dakka

[last parcel]

i go weapon specialist onslaught graia brauto

i don't think it was very good but lol

[somber axle]

get celerity stim with all that and watch the dakka go FASTEST

I'm honestly not sure which has the higher rate of fire

Recon Mk VId or Graia Brauto

[last parcel]

still recon last i checked

[somber axle]

Recon is the clown's choice award winner eternally

[oblique totem]

Actually I already have one, but I was looking at agripina braced for the better cleave

[last parcel]

trading dakka for cleave

[oblique totem]

You can see my conundrum

[last parcel]

that's why you take deathspitter and marksman

pierce 2 more poxwalkers

(i didn't do the math)