veteran-class

[radiant chasm]

Why ranged crit chance lol

You going to have deadshot and your base crit so you’ll have guaranteed crit after X surgical stacks, don’t even need to wait for full charge

And for a semi automatic low ammo weapon, breakpoints are super important and veteran can theoretically buff it up to tap crushers

[balmy flume]

Lazy, sue me.

Thank you Hadron and Brunt roulette.

(359 isn't stellar but I think this should be alright.)

[radiant chasm]

Base mod score doesn’t matter compared to the stat spread

Damage is the only one that matters and it’s at 80% (lol just realized how easy bistols are to roll on brunts lol)

[balmy flume]

Yea true Close Quarters monster.

Maybe a bit tricky with counter sniping but I think I can make it work.

[radiant chasm]

Hmm i wonder

[balmy flume]

Time to doll the gun up and attempt the new map...

[radiant chasm]

Does it behave like bolter?

Bolter is 100% accurate down the crosshair as it enters ADS

[balmy flume]

I am trying in the test chamber now, I would say it...feels better.

It is true it is slightly scuffed on ADS right now, but faster switch speed.

[radiant chasm]

I dont think it does? No one else has mentioned it

[balmy flume]

Huh

Yes true

Well here goes nothing

[wraith perch]

true, I guess is better to continue hunting for surgical 4 instead

[balmy flume]

...wow

Instant wipe

Bloody Chaos Spawn lol

[leaden skiff]

This any good still?

[hallow parcel]

Beast of Nurgle: kite while laughing

Plague Ogryn: Jokes on you I play Tekken, my neutral is insane

Daemonhost: Spamdodge and hope your team can clean up during the finish animation

Chaos Spawn: FUCK IT WE BALL

[pseudo fiber]

Yup

[heavy rover]

Very good

[leaden skiff]

Dope, thanks

[balmy flume]

2nd try, and I will say it

Bolt Pistol, I like it

Now time for Auric

On new map

(Forgot to switch to Auric when test running lol)

[primal remnant]

I gotta say fellas. Veteran was the last class I tried out but I think I am enjoying it hte most. The things that make me miserable on every other class simply aren't a threat when you're a vet. Gunners? What gunners? Highly accurate primary weapon goes pew pew. Crushers and monstrosities? Regenerating krak grenades be upon ye. Hordes? Power sword babyyyyyy

People say that Vet's player numbers are so high because he's the cawadooty man, but I think its more than that. Vet has an immediate answer to literally every threat, something no other class can say.

[crimson pebble]

Now all you need is to move from kraks to shredder psword handles any armor you run into just aswell

[primal remnant]

I've considered it but I'm also liking the 3g power sword for more horde chopping, and the advantage of krak grenades is you can see the crusher, but don't have to get near it to kill it.

[crimson pebble]

Have you tried the mk6 sword yet considerably better imo

[primal remnant]

Its just one grenade, instant death

[primal remnant]

chainsword or power sword

[crimson pebble]

Psword

[primal remnant]

I'm pretty sure thats the one I use

[leaden skiff]

Shredder Autopistol used to fuck, does it still?

[crimson pebble]

Not rlly

[idle swallow]

Its pretty much go columnus if you want a fast shooting traditional bullet gun

[primal remnant]

the columnus mk5 infantry autogun is what the shredder used to be, essentially

I'm honestly not sure what the shredder is for now

[leaden skiff]

Unfortunate. But duly noted. I'm just jazzed the recon is viable again.

[idle swallow]

or graia/agripinaa braced if you want no ads aim mode that shredder has, those two are definitely less popular than columnus infantry

[primal remnant]

I really like the graia brauto

the variable rate of fire is a good thing, lower rof out of brace means I can move around with it without the barrel flying upwards and also helps me conserve ammo since I have a tendency to get lost in the joy of a screaming lead hose, while the enhanced braced fire has basically no recoil and massive dps, but the lower movespeed frustrates me just enough to prevent me from using it 100% of the time

also I don't have a gun in my face eating my camera

[bleak jackal]

wait there are 2 power swords out there

oh wow there are

opinions?

[muted knot]

Bromentum for wrath

And carapace for stamina

[odd sparrow]

amazing stats shite roll on both perks and blessinig.

Ideally you want

Maniac
elites/carapace

power cycler 4
Brutal momentum or sunder.

You can wait for the crafting update which is sometimes next month ™️

power cycler being the highest priority

[bleak jackal]

thanks

[manic flax]

AT LAST

[bleak jackal]

gz!

[manic flax]

(that was the thing separating me from "for the emperor" 2 and 3)

[arctic rampart]

on VI power sword you really really really want brutal momentum and power cycler. On 3 power cycler + either brutal momentum or sunderer (new buffed version). I'd replace both blessings even though the perks are trash. IMO it's usable but you should replace that thing as 1.5 stamina is trash tier and unyielding enemies is just above it.

[bleak jackal]

thanks

i might just keep rolling so i get PC t4

but i keep it for the update

what the dump stat on Psword VI?

or which ones are the main stats

[lucid hinge]

Mobil/cleave for dump stats iirc

[arctic rampart]

Sunderer is surprisingly good on 3. I've been swapping back & forth. If your range weapon is iffy then sunderer might be better on 3 because it deals with large packs of armor and oh shit moments better. Brutal momentum is insane horde clear and head damage though. Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1cjjrqd/power_sword_sunder/l2h975e/ for some insight into that discussion. The '6' sword has a better stabby special, whereas the '3' is more mobile cause you activate it on slide and very satisfying heavy

[wraith perch]

I finished the event, stupid darkness can bow go away

[bleak jackal]

i need more plasteel

[arctic rampart]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/100

[scarlet path]

I remember that era of literally everyone running autopistol because it was so OP

[arctic rampart]

autopistol is trash, but viable

[primal remnant]

What do people think of the recon 6d

[sleek garden]

the autopistol really needs bullet cleave and it would be great as an anti horde weapon

not even a lot of cleave just hitting two three people would make a big difference

[somber axle]

It's my fav weapon and now it is even more fun

I see lots of people running Recons now and a fair number of people using this variant too

Also a bunch of Darktide youtubers I watch have made vids using it as Vet and Psyker

It's good now

It has always been fun but the buffs have made it feel more viable to a lot of people

Of all the Recons it was changed the most. Recon Mk II and Recon Mk VIIa mostly got ADMs/Damage changed. The Recon Mk VId got a massively increased magazine and buffed rate of fire when it already had one of the highest RoFs

[primal remnant]

it is highly zappy now

[somber axle]

It's like a light machine gun

https://tenor.com/view/tachanka-king-lmg-kill-gun-gif-15890718

[scarlet path]

I call my Vld the "Off-Brand Hellgun"

[primal remnant]

what the graia brauto feels like

[fervent quiver]

I absolutely love it with my psyker

I'm still waiting for a storm bolter so I can have the biggest meme of a build ever

[primal remnant]

I wish the staves were better on psyker. Gun psyker still seems to be the best, but like... Why am I playing a space wizard if I'm just going to use a gun

[fervent quiver]

I'm perfectly fine with staves on psyker, but sometimes I just want that gun feel

[mighty spire]

Easiest gun to get marksman focus penance?

[pseudo fiber]

Lawbringer shotgun
Alt shot. Go crazy

[primal remnant]

Progress to Level 30 on Veteran, Thought of the Day:

"I now hate Ogryn"

[lyric dock]

Ooooh my sweet summer child

Back in the ye olden days

You couldn't even shoot through fellow Ogryns

Unless you had a weapon that can penetrate them naturally

[primal remnant]

nothing has improved my ogryn play more than playing as other classes, I tell you. Nothing more frustrating than hosing a doorway and this fat lumbering oaf parks his ass right in the middle of it

[lyric dock]

By playing other classes you kinda learn how the classes interact with each other from a different POV

[arctic rampart]

Plasma gun loves shooting through ogryn. Ogryn doesn't know it dissolves rations in stomach SHH

[primal remnant]

Ogryn was gonna eat more anyway

[hallow parcel]

I swear every P.Sword I get has Supercharge on it

[scarlet path]

Every infantry autogun i get has stripped down on it

Give me Dumdum IV dammit

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/zootopia-nick-wilde-ugh-how-dare-you-how-dare-you-disney-gif-21539461

[primal remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-clap-toy-story-angry-mad-gif-8386507

[orchid hemlock]

hmmm im trying to figure out if dumdum or infernus is better on the recon VId

this is what I have atm, but I'm wondering if I should roll to dumdum?

[heavy rover]

Between dumdum and infernus, it's pretty much down to preference

[orchid hemlock]

I know dumdum is better with the other 2 recons, but I'm not sure with the VId

I wish I could test it, but I don't have a dumdum recon atm 😔

actually wait I do

i have a dumdum/infernus

jsut need to rebless the infernus

[real iron]

dum dum is so hard

to get

istg

[balmy flume]

Bolt Pistol

Man, it may not be best in game

[elder fiber]

its probably not

[balmy flume]

But playing it with Psword feels smooth AF

[real iron]

i go

columnus mk5

and munitorum shovel

mk7?

i think

it was

cadian shock troop

haha

[balmy flume]

Nice

I am still on shout mode myself XD

[ashen bramble]

does anyone have a S tier build for a veteran that only does range

[tame lodge]

For what? Sedition

Take a recon with headhunter and the shock trooper talent

[radiant chasm]

near impossible, the closest i would say would be the mk6 recon las with rending talents,

[supple stag]

Idk why you're so afraid of melee

[radiant chasm]

but fact of the matter is the game is a hybrid melee/ranged game so while you specialize in range, you are going to need to swap to melee at some point

[supple stag]

[ashen bramble]

ok coolio the hardest part tho is probably having a squad with a brain at this point then

[last parcel]

what if you’re the one without a brain too

[radiant chasm]

remember you can block 360, it just costs more stam the farther away from your crosshair they are, with the most cost if you block directly behind you

[orchid hemlock]

what do yall think of this build? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c39a0c4-39ed-417d-bb6d-838991d8fb09/femboy-vet

[terse idol]

Just be your own brain

[primal remnant]

I'm not clicking that

[ashen bramble]

heresy

[terse idol]

The true hersey is denying the power

[radiant chasm]

why crit chance perk when you already have headhunter

why sprint efficiency (and less important block efficiency) when stam regen would give you more value

why 3x gunner resistance when there is diminishing returns

[orchid hemlock]

oh the curios are just showing that all 3 work

[last parcel]

too ranged heavy for my tastes but you do you

[radiant chasm]

no HP on vet leaves you in the danger zone especially for grimiore missions

[orchid hemlock]

♀️

[radiant chasm]

also no determined on an inflas no wonder why it's put down as 3x gunner resistance

[oblique totem]

Dakka dakka

[radiant chasm]

your game gets shut off

opening salvo talent is just meh but it's not like the other option is a ton better

[umbral scaffold]

🤓

[terse idol]

I thought 3x gunner res isn't that bad since it's what 8% reduction over 2x?

[radiant chasm]

imo it is that bad because of value cost

[primal remnant]

You think I'm gonna read?

[terse idol]

Or well 8% x2

[radiant chasm]

20% gunner resistance is a lot

[terse idol]

Yeeah

[radiant chasm]

on a single curio

[terse idol]

I run 2

[radiant chasm]

2 is fine

tho if the build swapped to determined it wouldn't even need a single gunner curio

[orchid hemlock]

i ussually do either 2 gunner or 1 gunner 2 sniper

[radiant chasm]

tbh

[tall torrent]

Get demo stockpile (over demo team)
Also would recommend ghost over deadly accurate on infantry lasguns

Rashad doesn’t rly need +flak, would go +carapace instead

[radiant chasm]

1 sniper is def needed tho, it's just high value to their 125 damage attack (10x modifier vs player toughness)

[tall torrent]

Just get 200+ health and 20% sniper resist

Everything else is up to u

[orchid hemlock]

i was just following ur vet guide, but I forgot it was outdated 😔

[tall torrent]

Didn’t I send the new link to u

[orchid hemlock]

yes but I reset my pc so I lost it, 😔

[last parcel]

[orchid hemlock]

I didn't think the perks would change that much

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fish-looking-phone-disappointment-gif-23326574

[tall torrent]

It’s in dm

[orchid hemlock]

too lazy 😔

[last parcel]

[primal remnant]

4 has got to be the worst difficulty purely because of the teen levels that try them

[orchid hemlock]

ok fixed now

[umbral scaffold]

ohhh you should see on auric

4 auric is baddddd

becoming the last one standing after my teamtes evaporate into thin air is something

[terse idol]

Honestly the worst difficulty is 2 or 3

And that's only for leveling

[orchid hemlock]

always damnation

[terse idol]

Everybody's got bad weapons

[umbral scaffold]

when youre low level and getting 2-and 3s yeah thoses are hard

[terse idol]

Everybody isn't that good and learning

[umbral scaffold]

i mean im really okay at darktide but ive played vermintide alot in the past and usually id never go above veteran because the other diffs were too hard

or maybe i simply didnt understand my ranged weapons were meant for elites and bosses

but go figure

[supple stag]

Ranged in Vermintide was usually saved for specials, elites

sometimes bosses you're a BH, Huntsman

[hallow parcel]

Yeah VT was like 80% melee and 20% ranged. 90-10 for some classes even.

DT feels best at like 60-40 imo.

[supple stag]

In Vermintide most ranged options are single shot weapons, can't really control crowds with those

espections being shotguns, drakefire weapons, swiftbow, hagbane

• ammo isn't as common as in DT

[hallow parcel]

Yeah it's no secret ranged plays a larger role in DT

But I think people forget too often that ranged is still supplementing melee.

Your melee weapon is your primary weapon, literally. Ranged is secondary.

[umbral scaffold]

plz send to me also i may be using the outdated one cuz it doesnt have the bolt guns

ive been usin tf out of it

[tall torrent]

dm

[manic flax]

AW DANGIT (not enough moneys)

resets in 3 and a half hours

[primal remnant]

maybe switch to an alt and hammer some more out

[manic flax]

what do you mean by an alt?

[primal remnant]

like an alternate character

[manic flax]

ah

[primal remnant]

melk's currency is shared between all characters

[manic flax]

noice

[umbral scaffold]

wait you can farm weeklies on multiple characters?

[primal remnant]

yes

[umbral scaffold]

guess its time to level some alts god damn

[lavish token]

Yeah

I use alts to have extra shops to finish my blessings collection

[hallow parcel]

I'm glad I got that done ages ago

though rn I'm leveling another vet just to get man-stopper

[gilded cobalt]

seriously why does this game hate power cycle 4 so much

[last parcel]

that’s the life

[lavish token]

I got melked for it

[lyric dock]

Hadron Casino. Where Hadron always wins

[gilded wraith]

I wouldn't read to much into the slot title. It's a pretty common way to explain "more than 1 available”.

[manic flax]

[balmy flume]

Quick question

Compared to PSword, is any of the shock mauls any worth?

[tall torrent]

Depends on class

[tall torrent]

No

They’re fun tho

But if you’re just looking for a low point cost melee that still does well in almost every category, power sword is clear winner

Emphasis on “low point cost”

[lyric dock]

Yikes on that Crit bonus though

And let's not even talk about how lucky you need to be for Hadron to not brick it on Purple and Gold

[umbral scaffold]

Do these two curios provide the exact same amount of toughness or is there a hidden percentage from the blessing rating?
I always assumed the blessing rating being 80 just meant a higher perk tier roll. But is there anything else going on in the behind the scene?

[tall torrent]

Same amount

[umbral scaffold]

Thank you

[soft trellis]

What's the difference between the mk 3 and mk 7 snapper shovels? :/

[dreamy scaffold]

attack variation id say

cant check atm

[soft trellis]

Well I guess I barely have enough dockets to buy 1 of each from brunt...

both suck as far as stats go lol

[dreamy scaffold]

from what ive seen with other weapon variants, they change cosmetic wise and they have different attack paterns

one prioritizes stagger and the other prioritizes damage

its down to preference tho

usually

[soft trellis]

Looks like the mk 3 has all of its swings have at least some cleave... except the heavy 2

[dreamy scaffold]

love the shovels

[soft trellis]

where-as the mk 7 h all cleave except on the light 4 and push attack

[dreamy scaffold]

pretty much preference id say then

how comfortable you feel with each and such

[soft trellis]

I think I want the mk 3... based on the swing patterns

oh yeah, both get a sort of axe strikedown when I use the special

[dreamy scaffold]

personally its never even a huge difference to me, id use whatever

[dreamy scaffold]

the new shovels w/ the strikedown are amazing

that special is awesome

it can 1-2 shot elites and specials at mid tier

[soft trellis]

That is really handy actually, and honestly makes the mk 3 seem like the clear choice based on what I think my preference will be

[dreamy scaffold]

and heresy i think icr

i couldnt say how performance for anything is on damn, dont play it

a good example of how small the difference in variations are could be the knives

i think the newer one has a different light combo?

other than that i dont think theres anything else different, maybe 1-2 damage ticks

[soft trellis]

It really seems even more to be what I will probalby prefer since the mk 3 does a strikedown with both the light and heavy when you use the special >:3

What blessings do I want on the shovel?

Thrust and maybe uh... uncanny if shit goes south?

[dreamy scaffold]

i couldnt help you much there, too braindead for all that

if the numbers look good i use it

[tall torrent]

Mk7 is superior

Better horde clear, better single target combo

[soft trellis]

I feel that. For me, thought, it's I'm too stubborn to use the advice I was given for my Vet since I am a panic gamer and I play better when panicked(but make minor mistakes more)... and I get panicked easily so these 2 stamina regen delay reduction nodes and the 10% attack speed do wonders for my ability to Vet and even potentially solo clutch x.x

[tall torrent]

Mk3 is one trick meme

[soft trellis]

Is it easier to using when your panicking and sometimes just spamming or all light attacking cause you forget to heavy attack due to focusing more on not dying than using proper combos? x.x

[tall torrent]

No

At that point just do heavy spam on mk7

Mk3 is only good for 1 tap crusher and nothing else

[dreamy scaffold]

even better; dodge

[soft trellis]

I get that, but, sometimes I get more focus on dodging/pushing and then mess up the constant heavies for cleaving attacks... I do the same thing with the mk 4 chainsword, sometimes, when in a really rough spot >.<'

Don't get me wrong, I will get a working version of each so that I can learn which one actually works better for me as a player. Generally the meta is good for me, but, sometimes a little off meta is better. Like how I use hit and run on my brautos and inspiring barrage on my autopistol

[tall torrent]

Then I wouldn’t recommend shovels tbh

[soft trellis]

Well for my choice then it was either the chain-axe(which I learned how bad the dodges are on my zealot last night) and the rashad since I am not feeling the mk 6 power sword all that much

[dreamy scaffold]

i recommend any weapon taht you feel works best for your playstyle. try it out! if it doesnt work, try a different one

[soft trellis]

It's amazing, but, it isn't suiting me as a player very well... the mk 3 power sword actually suits me better :/

[tall torrent]

Rashad

[dreamy scaffold]

the rashad combat axe

[soft trellis]

I use it on my zealot all the time so if this shovel business fails that is what I'll get

[tall torrent]

Shovel is alright but it’s just alright

[soft trellis]

In the mean time this is what I"m working with for my melee options >.<'

I... am tired of using the mk 6 and having a pretty decent slower attack speed compared to when I just had the mk 3 power sword beforehand...

[dreamy scaffold]

personally i use the knife

uhh mk3?

[soft trellis]

I think I can actually reach a 2 shot with the mk 3 power sword with a push attack into a light

[dreamy scaffold]

cant temember

[soft trellis]

without any extra buffs that is

[dreamy scaffold]

psword is.. well psword

its good almost no matter what you do

its a fuckin psword

[soft trellis]

Isn't the mk 6 labeled as the "better" of the 2 power swords? :/

[dreamy scaffold]

ive seen a lot of people give up on most melee for the psword because its “easier”

[dreamy scaffold]

id say no

of course theres tons of people here that’d argue with me, maybe

[soft trellis]

So it isn't just me that thinks it is slower and more clunky, even though the push attack actually does better powered weakspot damage?

[dreamy scaffold]

oh yea its slower

i think its supposed to be a slower “heavier hitting” variant. cba to understand it

[soft trellis]

That push attack is amazing, I will give it that. It is fast and does a large amount of weakspot damage

[dreamy scaffold]

i think most people just use mk3

aint broke dont fix it

[tall torrent]

Yea

[tall torrent]

It’s not slower & more clunky

It’s faster

Because you use light atks

And the light atks have better angle

[soft trellis]

I am talking lights more specifically

[tall torrent]

Mk3 lights are a little faster atk speed but the worse atk angle makes it inferior

[soft trellis]

I think...

[midnight mortar]

Their horde clear capabilities are on par with each other. The mk6 is considered better because it is also capable of much stronger single target attacks.

[tall torrent]

It’s angled poorly to proc BM on multiple targets

[soft trellis]

the only side thing to note is all lights are cleaving attacks for the mk 3 so you don't need to block cancel, use a heavy, or just have an overhead swing into a horde <.<

[hallow parcel]

it is time

[tall torrent]

Mk6 with block cancel charges faster

[austere mica]

You can block while charging

[tall torrent]

It’s just very slightly more complex than mk3 but it’s quite a bit better

[austere mica]

(on mk6)

[soft trellis]

I honestly prefer the mk 3 I think... it might have worse angles, worse w/e else... but it... feels better to me in the field than the mk 6 does, when not doing the quick crusher 2 shot

[dreamy scaffold]

thats how i do it

feels good, is good

[hallow parcel]

took three greys and now I have man-stopper

[soft trellis]

that is extremely useful... but it still has felt worse to me in runs compared to the mk 3 I have. I am pretty sure it isn't because my mk 3 has slaughterer either instead of t4 bromentum

[tall torrent]

Mk3 power sword imo is best with sunder

Sunder on mk3 just makes sense because you’re supposed to spam heavy for it

[scarlet path]

I just noticed something, the commissary chick is the same woman who is the "Traitor" in the cutscene when you reach level 30

[dreamy scaffold]

beg pardon?

[soft trellis]

Yep

[scarlet path]

And when you actually become level 30 she becomes a servitor

[dreamy scaffold]

ohh

yea you right actually

[scarlet path]

I never noticed that

[austere mica]

Well yeah she just got shot to pieces

[dreamy scaffold]

that’d imply she survived no?

[scarlet path]

I just thought it randomly switched between the chick and the servitor

[austere mica]

Not entirely

[soft trellis]

Also, on a side note: I really like how accurate the graia brauto is when braced

[scarlet path]

I mean Rannick only shot her once in the back with a revolver so

[dreamy scaffold]

braced autos=based autos

[scarlet path]

Highly likely she survived

[dreamy scaffold]

the moebians cant survive that

[austere mica]

Yeah but didn't the round fucking explode

[dreamy scaffold]

her torso fucking disappears

that round kills her 100%

[tall torrent]

Yea Rannick had a Zarona

[dreamy scaffold]

her brain was intact tho

[scarlet path]

Makes sense why her torso is the most augmented part after she becomes servitorized

[soft trellis]

The graia, besides that it shoots faster as well when braced, feels just as accurate if not more accurate when bracing it... whereas the agripinaa and columnus brautos are defintely less accurate when braced

[umbral scaffold]

hence the servitor

[soft trellis]

I mean... it doesn't have cleave, like the agripinaa one does... but I really like it

[dreamy scaffold]

truetrue

[hallow parcel]

lmao

[soft trellis]

Welp wish me luck, I got ~1 and a half hours to get 350 more scab melee kills for my vet's last contract

[dreamy scaffold]

“nice.. nice.. nice- ah gak”

[hallow parcel]

Alright lets see what I get

run'n'gun speedload on one and deathspitter scattershot on the other

Could've been worse

[next estuary]

just got this from a run, ive literally never used axes before - is this usable or trash?

[austere mica]

Potentially

Swap thrust for Brutal Momentum and see if it can oneshot Bruisers in the psykhanium

[next estuary]

hmm ill have to look out for it i only have brutal momentum 2 unlocked for axes

[supple stag]

Brutal Momentum instead of thrust and swap infested for unarmoured dmg

To one tap bruisers

[next estuary]

uhh what is a bruiser i have never heard of this enemy

[austere mica]

Still works

[terse idol]

She is the servitor that works in the shop

So yeah she "lived"

[austere mica]

Brutal momentum only needs the ignore hitmass property, the headshot damage is extra

[dreamy scaffold]

she died from that shot

her brain was intact

[terse idol]

I mean alive enough

That she could be turned into a servitor

[dreamy scaffold]

her brain survived, not her

[terse idol]

Yeah

So she lived

[dreamy scaffold]

are you defending a heretic?

[terse idol]

No I'm saying she survived

To be turned into a sevitor

As far as I know if you didn't become a vegetable you're still alive

[next estuary]

good to know. is axe a generally good melee weap or is more of a specific build melee weapon

[austere mica]

These idiots

[dreamy scaffold]

right, but she didnt survive the gunshot is what i mean

[terse idol]

Hmmmm

[dreamy scaffold]

bruiser cause all they do is bruise

[austere mica]

Its very generalist but if it can't reach the bruiser BP it looses a lot of value

[next estuary]

the heavy one shots light does not

light one shots when headhunter is stacked

[midnight mortar]

Rashad requires some point investment, but the payoff is massive as it becomes a melee answer against any enemy.

[next estuary]

headtaker*

[midnight mortar]

Stacking headtaker is very easy. Hit any enemy once.

Then your lights 1 tap dreg/scab bruisers to the head.

[next estuary]

yea so it does 1 shot bruisers with lights once stacked

[next estuary]

im doing this right now with an infernus recon lasgun https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ccc8402-b808-4e7a-920c-e6e35bd01571/build-2 do i need to swap anything out regarding the points investment? ive been playing w/ assault chain sword on my vet since launch so im kind of getting bored of it

[leaden skiff]

Well I see good weapons are still locked behind three layers of bullshit RNG. Spent half a mil credits on revolvers got zero worth taking to machine mommy

[mighty anvil]

I've perfected my Bistol playstyle, I can die happy.

[umbral scaffold]

yall just gotta be patient man check the hourly shop i dont get the gambling thing personally

[leaden skiff]

It'd be something if every single fucking one over 360 base didn't have 80% mobility and dump stat something important like crit or damage

Bruh I have 1000+ hours in this game, you'd think RNG woulda shined on me at least once.

[umbral scaffold]

oof thats rough

[austere mica]

Solution, don't use the zarona

[leaden skiff]

That sounds like heresy

[dreamy scaffold]

sounds like a skill issue

[austere mica]

That sounds like fun

Agri is more fun

[dreamy scaffold]

they are all fun

[leaden skiff]

Except that it's entirely RNG based? 🤣

[dreamy scaffold]

exactly

skill issue

very simple stuff

[leaden skiff]

God I hope genetics gave you looks, cuz it didn't give you brains

[dreamy scaffold]

that is probably the most obvious rage bait i think ive ever seen

never seen someone insult my intelligence over a joke💀

[scarlet path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076289043563806820/1241983720303624283/JOGERR893219368.gif

[leaden skiff]

Sounds like a skill issue

[dreamy scaffold]

sounds like you dont have fun with other people

[mighty anvil]

least damage taken most aggressive playstyle. Thank the God Emperor for the Bistol.

[dreamy scaffold]

bistol is awesome

love how it looks

[tall torrent]

Try the grenadier build

[mighty anvil]

I did, I prefer Krak nades over Shredder even with the increased radius.

[tall torrent]

Fair

[idle dirge]

Best blessings for ironhelm hacker, other than manstopper?
I'm not really a fan of manstopper but everyone recommends it

Only difference I ever noticed with vs without manstopper was being able to kill three maulers at once (if they line up perfectly), otherwise it never felt different

I don't think it's infinite but I can check later

[midnight mortar]

Let me load up DT and check. At first glance it seems alright though.

[idle dirge]

Going into a run so I'll watch afterward lol

[next estuary]

is keep their heads down worth it on recon lasgun?

[shadow aurora]

I wouldn't go out of my way for it

[somber axle]

I'd say no vs For the Emperor depending on how often you use your ability

[shadow aurora]

Or take it tbh

[somber axle]

The Recons all have pretty solid suppression without it in my experience

[next estuary]

kk, im using FTE right now

[somber axle]

I think it cuts the amount of ammo you need to suppress a target by a smidge and speeds up time to suppress noticeably but you already do good suppression

just firing at a Reaper will put the Reaper and the Gunners around him all in suppression naturally

[next estuary]

i surprisingly have not been having ammo issues, though i dont play auric maelstrom, just regular damnation quickplay

[midnight mortar]

So I think, if your rashad only has Headtaker 3 (assuming BM 4) you will need desperado from the right tree in order to 1 tap dreg bruisers on the head.

I don't have one with the proper rolls and Headtaker 4 to compare.

But I'm seeing that without desperado it will not 1 tap dreg bruisers with only Headtaker 3.

[next estuary]

i tested earlier in psycharium, if i have 5 stacks of headtaker i one shot bruisers w/ lights

[midnight mortar]

All your other talents seem fine though.

[next estuary]

HT 4 BM is only 2, all i have unlocked

[midnight mortar]

Ah try it with BM 4 if possible?

Or otherwise desperado? 5 stacks of headtaker may be just a bit too high for immediate/reliable performance.

Unless you're ok with needing 5 stacks first.

[idle dirge]

I get what you're saying but that video isn't a great example :p

I mean, when you're using it on different enemies that are placed differently at different ranges, it's kinda hard to tell just how effective it actually is

[next estuary]

sadly theres no way to get to desparado it seems without giving up something critical. i'd have to give up onslaught, focused fire, superiority complex, or shock trooper. none feel like a worthy sacrifice for desperado

on a recon lasgun??

[midnight mortar]

Personally, I could live without superiority complex.

[next estuary]

i guess its only elites

i lose duck n dive too but im not really worried about that one

does shock trooper still have some really high internal cooldown or is that not the case anymore

[midnight mortar]

From what I recall, it's been unchanged since its nerf.

[next estuary]

whelp none of this matters

desparado does not hit me to the bp

[midnight mortar]

Even with BM4?

Have you posted your Rashad?

[next estuary]

i dont own bm4

[midnight mortar]

Ohhhh

[next estuary]

yea it was further up

sec ill repost

[midnight mortar]

Sorry, I must've missed it.

[next estuary]

np it was awhile ago

yea im a casual player who came back for thje event and im looking forward to the itemization update

lemme check my characters see if theres a bm4 in melks

[midnight mortar]

Yeah that sub 70% penetration really hurts.

[next estuary]

well no axes in melks but i do see this shotgun, dunno if shotguns are decent now or not

[trim steppe]

might as well snag for full bore T4, its a good blessing to have in the family

[shadow aurora]

Oof low ammo

Really good base tho for rework

[next estuary]

whats the throwaway stat on shotties?

[shadow aurora]

Stability and mobility

[trim steppe]

mobility, like pretty much all guns lol

you can dump mobility on pretty much any weapon down to 51%

[tall torrent]

Oh that’s easy, drop onslaught

[lunar jasper]

Any good builds with the chainsword or is the psword just better to use overall?

[tall torrent]

Power sword is better overall

[lunar jasper]

Any specific blessings for it? Or is it pretty build specific?

[hallow parcel]

almost perfect

[last parcel]

t3 carapace scrap for dockets

[tall torrent]

Power cycler + brutal momentum/sunder

Mk6 is the better power sword

[lunar jasper]

Ooouh that’s good I see it now

Might need a few years to find cycler at t4 though

[tall torrent]

Itemization update coming soon

[lunar jasper]

Sooo don’t grind for a roll on it yet? Lmao

[tall torrent]

U could try to harvest a bunch of blessings for power sword

If ur goal is to farm for blessing, buy a bunch of power sword and upgrade all of them to gold

Higher chance of t4 blessings at gold

[lunar jasper]

I’ve been building up on my combat axe, haven’t moved onto psword yet

[tall torrent]

Combat axe is way harder to craft than power sword

[lunar jasper]

Will probably just grind out a ton of diam and plasteel and wait on the update

[tall torrent]

Main limiting factor after update is prob dockets

Because every weapon would be able to reach 380

So u want ideal distribution

[lunar jasper]

Dockets is no problem 😅

[lunar jasper]

How? I haven’t read into the update much or seen a lot of it. Was in the Reddit for awhile but they can be something different in there

[tall torrent]

Every weapon has potential to reach 380

But the distribution among 5 stats is RNG

[shadow aurora]

Didnt they say youd be able to alter stats

[tall torrent]

You can upgrade a weapon to increase its stat closer to max potential

[lunar jasper]

I misread maybe what you said then, saw it as changing stats

[tall torrent]

But the distribution of “max potential” is determined when it’s created

[shadow aurora]

Well i guess thats as good as we'll get

[tall torrent]

So u could have an 80+80+80+80+60 spread

[shadow aurora]

Fatshark wants there gambling to keep the people hooked

[lunar jasper]

Pray to the rng gods

[tall torrent]

But u could also have 72+78+76+75+79 spread

And this spread can’t be changed

That’s why dockets will be main limiting factor

You’re essentially chasing after godroll in terms of stat distribution

Since perks & blessings can be modified without limitations

[lunar jasper]

But there’s the limitations on 3 mods, unless they’re changing that too

[tall torrent]

Locks will be removed

[lunar jasper]

Oh my

[tall torrent]

And everything goes to 380

[lunar jasper]

That makes more sense then

[last parcel]

me when i see a nice bicycle

[lunar jasper]

[mighty anvil]

Is cleave really worth on pox walkers.
Correct me if i'm wrong the role of the hacker shotgun is to kill Elites & Maniacs? It's not a crowd control weapon or is it?

[austere mica]

Everything becomes a CC weapon when it has infinite cleave

That cone of poxwalkers isn’t real anymore

[midnight mortar]

The idea is that you no longer need to care about the poxwalkers between you and the priority target.

[mighty anvil]

So you're using the gun for crowd control AND using to kill the prio target?

[midnight mortar]

If it was for crowd control, you'd be using even if it was only a wall of poxwalkers in front of you.

[mighty anvil]

It has two shots so whats the ideal scenario?
1 shot for CC
A melee to get ammo back
And the next 2 shots kills prio target?

[austere mica]

Just aim for whatever is inside the horde and anything infront of and behind it disappears

[mighty anvil]

Ahh that makes sense

[austere mica]

If you want a real full CC vet weapon grab a Lawbringer

You can hit near 100% crit without weapon spec so you can just dump special shells

[idle swallow]

Mulching hordes with lawbringer special shot for the marksman focus penance was surprisingly effective

[last parcel]

it makes the hardest part of that penance searching for manstopper

[tall torrent]

ideal scenario is u brace fire 2 ammo and kill 8 ragers in front of u with a manstopper crit

[neon estuary]

for some reason, the weapon specialist perk became perfect for the Viia recon lasgun to clear out hoards faster. All you need to is fast melee kills and then quickly switch to your recon lasgun and then shooting faster! Try it out if you dont believe me...

[austere mica]

It’s only like 10% attack speed with max stacks

And also that’s for the VI

[neon estuary]

the Viia is better, it gets the job done on tougher targets (Except for the crusher and bulwak)

[austere mica]

I meant the part about the attack speed

I think MF works better for large stuff because of the rending at 10 stacks you can get

More valuable than just 10% attack speed and like 2 crits

[neon estuary]

you ain't wrong, it really sucks not to grab em all

[frank ether]

onslaught is one of those op on paper things

in reality its hard to reach and just doesnt matter for like all weapons except two

[fossil basalt]

There's so many great nodes that I usually ignore keystones completely

[lunar jasper]

Sharpshooter >

[tall torrent]

outside of 1 particular build (that's still not very good) there's no good reason to go keystoneless

[umbral scaffold]

12/15 matches on not getting down only to get yeeted by a barrell into instant death

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-for-honor-jormungandr-jorm-hammer-gif-22680719

[oblique totem]

bonk

[lucid hinge]

peak jorm

[uncut pebble]

You used to be able to do that with gladiator's zone cancel into skewer and throw people in any direction.

My friend used to do that to people around spiked walls to instantly kill them.

Quite funny to see or hear their reactions to getting teamkilled.

Ubisoft has since patched this, because they don't like their players having any form of fun.

[ocean moat]

is the mk 3 power sword any good?

[rigid pilot]

It's good

[ocean moat]

got a decent roll and plan to save it for when i unlock power cycler

any builds or tips for power sword? never used it before (usually stick to chainsword)

[rigid pilot]

Yuh

Power cycler is kinda required

Get used to sliding while activating

[rigid pilot]

Activating while holding block is also very good

[gilded wraith]

Anyone have a good ILG MK 1A build?

[ocean moat]

well

it appears i got power cycle t4 on my first try

[ocean moat]

do i replace slaughterer or supercharge?

[sinful swallow]

Blessings are most important part of powersword

Replace both with cycler 4 and bromentum/sunder

[ocean moat]

pretty versatile gun, use it interchangably with the other ILGs, 1shs the lesser ranged enemies

[sinful swallow]

Brutal gives far more horde clear, sunder helps armor waves

[gilded wraith]

Thank you.

[arctic rampart]

the crit chance is pretty garbage, but at least it's not useless

try both bmom and sunder on mk3. on mk6 sunder is not as good

[umbral scaffold]

PC slaughterer

[arctic rampart]

in general bmon is better for horde clear and non-armor stacks. sunder is fun on mk3 cause of the heavies

[umbral scaffold]

I ain't activating that fucking shit every few swings

Dumbass weapon

I'm gonna hit them with the stick

[arctic rampart]

slaughterer is far worse and if you dont want to use activation dont bother with psword period

[umbral scaffold]

No

I'll use it however I want

[ocean moat]

is bromentum 3 good enough or do i need 4

[arctic rampart]

3 is fine

[sinful swallow]

My 550 is currently stuck with this

[ocean moat]

tis why i usually run mk13 chainsword

[arctic rampart]

Brutal Momentum +7.5-15% Weak Spot Damage. Weakspot Kills also ignore Enemy Hit Mass.

[umbral scaffold]

I just pop a special to kickstart some slaughterer stacks and then spam lights until the cows go home

[ocean moat]

what gun should i use with it

i suppose i dont need a boltgun anymore

[umbral scaffold]

Can't go wrong with plasma gun

[sinful swallow]

I actually use it with boltgun lmao

[arctic rampart]

The latter point is the strong, but keep in mind it's not actually infinite. E.g. [–]gpkgpk O[] Ogryn Holding Lunch Box Salute 2 points 3 months ago*
4 crushers, all those "infinite cleaves" are : mass * 0.25 +1 freebie mob as long as there's mass budget left, and it doesn't get stopped by armor or bulwark shield. IIRC this is the right spot to look at in the LUA source (github), and you can see the interesting ancillary mass related functions there.

Lyramion 10 points 3 months ago
The higher you go in difficulty the more I like Sunder. BM is great for headlevel hordeclear but with Sunder you singlehandely can stem a whole wall of mixed bulltshit that is coming at you.

Try em both on mk3 you'll have a favorite or swap constantly like me lul

[ocean moat]

[arctic rampart]

zerona plasma infantry-auto-gun are the meta picks. there's lots of viable options like recon lasgun or bolter etc. especialyl when you choose a strong melee weapon like ps or knife

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/c360c47fea34f68ece1dec4cfc8f0a482f9c161c/scripts/utilities/attack/hit_mass.lua#L92 @ocean moat

[ocean moat]

ill take your word for it

[arctic rampart]

well u can just go in the pskarium but I've seen it in missions that ps doesnt just go through everything on a head hit

that wall of armor comes at u it does stop with bm even if u hit the head

[ocean moat]

dont you just love spending 5k plasteel hunting for blessings

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/feral-hog-viral-hog-pig-call-calling-gif-13492869264629174909

[ocean moat]

peak gameplay watching numbers go down

i havent even seen sunder 2

[ocean moat]

correction

10k

no sunder

[last parcel]

because it only exists as sunder 4

[ocean moat]

so does it just fluctuate like thrust or is it set

also i got a 373 stat roll ps while hunting sundr

[brisk shuttle]

worth the keep - MGIa lasgun rolled 70 damage, 79 ammo, 74 stopping power, 80% mobility, stability 66

or should I really try to go for the 80% damage?

[ocean moat]

idk but the one i tested was white rarity and 1shs lesser ranged enemies on damn

[brisk shuttle]

solid rolls. Perks are increased range crit strike by 5%, 20% damage, deadly accurate 4 and falter 3. I think I replace falter 3 with ghost or headhunter

and then the 20% damage for somethin else?

(unarmoured)

is it worth replacing falter 3 for ghost or should I just try to get headhunter 4?

[novel stone]

Did they remove falter as a trait a blessing? My headhunter has falter but now it has a weird description

[sinful swallow]

Desc is broken for some right now

[novel stone]

Strange

[sinful swallow]

Honestly

I'm most excited for itemization to mess with mk4 chaxe

With the loadout mod I've got a set up I really want to try for real

It's really important to me that the lights one tap trash mobs and I want blessings that make activation do stuff, even if they fixed thunderous bloodletter

That was cool actually one shotting crushers, like a vet evis

Not sure what I'll do with just sheer hordes though

[midnight totem]

ib4 renaming a character to Kharne and equipping with chainaxe

[sinful swallow]

That'd be heretical

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-gif-1630712686706559038

[sinful swallow]

[tall torrent]

Spam heavy & PA

That’s mk4’s horde clear

Light atks are for elites & specials

[last parcel]

it's set. those are values for t1-3 which exist in the code but are not available in game (yet, maybe it'll be added in itemization)

[sinful swallow]

Yeah but it's not very efficient as a horde weapon in general

[tall torrent]

it's not meant to be

chainaxe is basically one trick anti-elite & monster dps

[sinful swallow]

Well yeah exactly

[brisk shuttle]

anyone got a good veteran sharpshooter (right side) tree?

[tall torrent]

sharpshooter is left side

[brisk shuttle]

argh

anyone got a solid right side tree then

[last parcel]

[tall torrent]

What’s even a right side tree

[brisk shuttle]

right keystone.

I dont mean like full right lol, just right keystone

[last parcel]

full right

[brisk shuttle]

cackled

can headhunter go up to 4? assuming yea?

[last parcel]

yeah i got one right here

[brisk shuttle]

lmaoo

[lavish token]

Backup classic

[ocean moat]

ayy finally got the drippiest (imo) chest piece

[crude fiber]

learned a valuable lesson. make sure the dickhead your trying to kick isnt in strike team with the other 2 randoms

[last parcel]

they parried the damn votekick

[umbral scaffold]

lightning reflexes

[distant phoenix]

Mine zigzags down the whole thing

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ccc3ea2-83b5-4b32-9ee3-e342fd998b6e/guardsman-8?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[mighty anvil]

Hey man maybe ask yourself if you were the asshole if the majority kicked you out.

[last parcel]

insert clip of csgo players kicking teammate because he sounded black

[crude fiber]

nah they were in a party together

just retaliation kicked me for trying

[mighty anvil]

Using comms in cs:go was the first sin.

[umbral scaffold]

No sir, friends never abused the vote system in a game, never

[mighty anvil]

Sorry you got the shitters brother.

[mighty anvil]

Abused? I think you mispelled working as intended. Get these filthy anti-social SOLO queue-ers out of my MULTIPLAYER lobby. (sarcasm)

[crude fiber]

none of my friends like this game

[mighty anvil]

Consider me a friend if you ever need someone to play this with then. thumbs up

[thorn lark]

cwiticaw

lmao

[dim kindle]

BIG - E Needd 2Packs

[vivid silo]

As a Chain Axe enjoyer (mostly Mk IV) I can recommend getting Stamina regen on all curios and getting one (or both) Stamina Regen Delay reduction nodes. It allows you to spam push attacks almost infinitely, which can be handy to make space in a tight spot, especially if you don't have room to activate Weapon Specialist.

[hollow turtle]

4 Veterans. Captain boss fight. Damnation. Power out.
Best diverse and coordinated firing line I've ever participated in.
Lasgun IA, Helbore II, Recon Lasgun VIIa, and a Columnus Mk V IAG.
Two of them playing Krieg, and the other a Steel legion.

[umbral scaffold]

Both stamina delay nodes put you on par with psyker, who has infinite pushing so long as they don't spam dodges

[vivid silo]

Aye it can be pretty handy, but not always necessary to have both which is why I left it up to personal choice.

[plain escarp]

What do I improve

[austere mica]

Infested to whatever gives breakpoints and point blank to surgical

Shame about the low rank DA

[plain escarp]

ah I thought PB was one of the good ones

[austere mica]

Not when compared to surgical

[plain escarp]

alright

but DA+surgical is best combo?

[austere mica]

Bolt pistol doesn’t have the fire rate to make use of PB, and surgical gives the same benefit for a very similar time investment

[austere mica]

For a sniping weapon, yes

[plain escarp]

MIght as well rip the PB and hope for a better boltgun

[austere mica]

If you want to use with Weapon spec I would suggest lethal proximity over surgical because you can garuntee crits and an on demand stagger tool is quite useful

[austere mica]

I would keep this one, stats are excellent and it’s 2/4

It also has 3 dump stats so it’s quite forgiving to roll

[plain escarp]

Crafting update can make it great

[dense tartan]

I really don't understand how stamina works.

I have a dodge limit and a push limit and a block limit. But they don't seem to be related to the stamina bar.

[austere mica]

Dodges are a count based on your weapon and its mobility stat

Pushes and blocks consume stamina

[austere mica]

Most light weapons (swords and axes) have 5 dodges with over 51% mobility but heavier weapons like power or chain weapons have fewer

Ogryn weapons don’t reach 5 dodges if I remember right

[vivid silo]

Once you use your "amount of dodges" you can still dodge, but your dodges get progressively worse with each dodge after the limit, eventually you are just dodging in place. Resetting your amount of dodges (by not dodging) also rests this feature.

[austere mica]

You can go to about double your dodge limit before they are totally ineffective

Reset is like half a second or something? A push or two will get you there

[vivid silo]

Aye once you know "it's there", it's pretty easy to prevent it from happening. But you need to know what's happening in the first place

[austere mica]

I just have a mod to track my dodges visually

Helpful for knowing when they reset as there is no visual or audio indicator

[balmy flume]

Bolt Pistol is fun to pair with a Power Sword

Not the best, but it’s my go to nowadays.

[pine snow]

man going to heresy and having ppl who i doubt could barely keep up with malice is painful

literally the second i turn my attention elsewhere to the big targets thinking my team can handle hordes im the last one alive

at the same time i dont wanna think so i dont wanna do damnation

[umbral scaffold]

The game is divided between people who think poxwalkers are the biggest threat because they're the most numerous, and the ones that understand what free toughness means

[austere mica]

Heresy is the hardest difficulty

[lyric dock]

That is very true and you get the biggest mix bag of players

[dense tartan]

does tox flamer resistance also affect regular flamers?

[delicate hornet]

probably but im pretty sure it doesnt affect their flame damage for whatever reason

[rigid pilot]

Bomber resist has been fixed to resist bomber fire damage

No clue about flamers

[regal yarrow]

I need to know good Double barrel shotgun blessings

[rigid pilot]

Some people like scattershot manstopper

[marble mantle]

I feel like I still get a bad hand on damnation

[rigid pilot]

I can't live without double barrel

[marble mantle]

Like people dropping a medikit next to a full medicae station

[rigid pilot]

I take double barrel manstopper on right keystone vet

[rigid pilot]

Misclick

[marble mantle]

[regal yarrow]

I accidentally did this more times than I care to admit

[marble mantle]

But you know it’s NOT

It takes TWO CLLICKS

[regal yarrow]

sorry pal

[rigid pilot]

Give them some benefit of the doubt

[marble mantle]

YOU CANT DO THEM BOTH WRONG

MAKES ME BONEEAD ITCH

[delicate hornet]

i mean if its in an arena then it might stop em from wasting a medicae on no wounds 🤷‍♂️

before a dropdown is memes tho

[regal yarrow]

I feel this should tighten the shot spread

not increase power

[marble mantle]

Hug have many things to complain about concerning medikit and ammo crate placement

[rigid pilot]

VT2 energy

[regal yarrow]

If you see a Knife vet named Slavro, that's my bos character

[rigid pilot]

It's for zealots with the spread reduction talent

[regal yarrow]

and I don't have any blessings to replace it with

[delicate hornet]

I LOVE RANDOM BULLET SPREAD

[regal yarrow]

got scattershot tho

[marble mantle]

My other characters are just named Sparky-Pal, Shouty-Pal, and Sah.

[regal yarrow]

I mean just tighten the spread, not make it fixed

[regal yarrow]

good to know, pall

[delicate hornet]

more a comment on full bore, its so unreliable to proc due to random spread

[regal yarrow]

Do combat shotgun blessings transfer to the DB?

[lyric dock]

You still get bad people on Damnation, but less common thankfully.

[rigid pilot]

Noh

[regal yarrow]

why not? thy're shotguns

why do they have to make it dumb?

I WANT MY SUPERSHOTGUN

[rigid pilot]

Fatshark dumb

[regal yarrow]

true

[rigid pilot]

Not because shotguns don't have double barrels

[regal yarrow]

The sole difference I see between them is bore size

the DB has a substantially bigger gauge than the combat shotguns\

[tame lodge]

Dance of Death mentioned
What the hell is taking cover 🗣️

[regal yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-a-km-wtf-is-a-kilometer-whats-a-kilometer-kilometer-metric-system-gif-14221610099732074942

[somber axle]

There is something that tightens spread

[regal yarrow]

on Vet or zealot?

[somber axle]

Vet

[tame lodge]

Exec stance

[regal yarrow]

HELL NA

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/randowis-smirk-gif-3331694058308367935

[rigid pilot]

Exec stance DBs is gonna be something else

[regal yarrow]

I HATE EXEC STANCE

[tame lodge]

I pair with Brauto

[somber axle]

I like using Exe Stance with pretty much every gun I run LOL

[regal yarrow]

I NEED TO HAVE INFILTRATE OR THE COMMISAR THING

I play vet like a degenerate plays zealot

[somber axle]

I've been using Graia Brauto lately and swapped back and forth between Exe Stance and Infil until I realised getting slapped breaks you out of your braced fire and interrupts your shots

but

Exe Stance gives stun immunity

so you can just keep firing even if something hits you

very funny gun

I would not have toyed with it at all if not for the new weapon skin

I feel so pretty

finally finished this too

am free

[regal yarrow]

your gun's pretty, wonder what it'd look like in my hands.... (savlar dude)

[somber axle]

Rinda is eh but the cultist is interesting and I love lights out so the event isn't an entire miss for me

the gun would look pretty in everyone's hands

such a nice skin

now they need to give a good weapon skin to headhunter autoguns

[pulsar shore]

The main miss tbh is lack of ordo dockets because event isnt avaible on Auric so 20k vs 40k is a big difference
Thanks I didnt get turtles in my team but I met 2 diff veterans using smoke in light out, I dont know thats their problem lmao

[somber axle]

no auric version of the event mission is unfortunate but the payout from the event rewards has been ok

nice chunk of dockets, plasteel and diamantine

[tame lodge]

Smokes on vent purge goes harder though

[somber axle]

could be melee Vets who wanted to save the talent tax by skipping krak on the way down right side tree straight to weapon spec? idk

move speed aura is pretty fun

[vivid silo]

Using them in such a case could just be muscle memory, wanting to throw a Shredder or something and getting a Smoke instead

Can't say I haven't done it myself

I also read somewhere about loadouts / skill trees only partially applying if you are swapping before joining (like you get your updated weapons, but the talents from the build you swapped from)

Actually, for people that think Smoke grenades grief your team, then I guess Light's Out is the perfect place to use them, where they are the least impactful (for good or bad).

[umbral scaffold]

Still no vet lmg

Tragic

[balmy flume]

Good comrade fight for Imperium!

(Sorry guy REALLY looks like a Soviey dude with an AK)

[plain escarp]

Good?

Got it from a mission

this is what I currently use

[primal remnant]

[vivid silo]

The 2 marks are different experiences from one another

I don't think Bloodthirsty is very useful unless you are an expert in achieving mid-saw breakpoints

You are often killing targets with a single revved Heavy with the Mk IV anyway, even more-so with Thrust

[neon estuary]

i have a question.... whats the best way to complete "Make every shot count"? I'm thinking of using a revolver to do that but its gonna take me a fortune to make a good revolver

[austere pine]

revolver and no

revolver is stupid good even when not really the best roll

[neon estuary]

what do you mean no? i'm talking about perks and blessings for the revolver to do that kind of a task

[austere pine]

you literally don't need them

it's goood to get hand-cannon, it's not a must have for revolver use if you just want one for the penance

it's good to have surgical, it's not a must have for revolver use if you just want the penance

get anything and it will help you get the penance

[lusty sapphire]

Melk is on drugs today guys

Oh wow

[austere pine]

no pc4

[lusty sapphire]

I have pc4 already lol

I also have a sunder mk3 but it was worth a screen

[balmy flume]

As a natural Melk product generated from store, ye, is crazy rolls

[last parcel]

melk on meth

[serene ivy]

that rapid fire lasgun seems silly

i wanna try it

[idle swallow]

my penance bouta buuuust

[river wraith]

love the description very insightful

[drowsy aspen]

Beautiful...

[plain escarp]

Nah it’s decent

[drowsy aspen]

Eh? What would be better?

[umbral scaffold]

How long til they fix those descriptions u think?

i got a few weps with them kinda annoying

[plain escarp]

Unarmored could be switched, slaughterer is only 3 and shredder stat could be taller

But it’s good

[radiant chasm]

The itemization rework probably

[fresh saddle]

this a decent knife?

[gilded wraith]

Only 455 more blessings to learn...

[lavish token]

https://tenor.com/view/i-get-it-snoop-dogg-red-table-talk-i-understand-i-know-gif-16483599

I have spent 120k plasteel in one week farming blessings

[gilded wraith]

Ouch... I'm just chasing all the Tier I and II's I can find in the shop.

[lavish token]

Yeah I don’t roll the ones I need in the shop anymore

[gilded wraith]

The 3's and 4's will have to be on weapons I actually use.

[scarlet path]

NGL i just did Malice runs with Terror in the Dark and completed it within the second day

Super easy to complete this event challenge i feel like they could have made Rinda a bit more powereful

[midnight totem]

You were running it on malice

[scarlet path]

Tho i guess they are doing a lore thing where she isnt strong enough yet cause she sometimes says that when you defeat her\

[midnight totem]

Of course it's easy

[elder fiber]

Its easy on t5 too lol

[scarlet path]

I did a damnation run too to see the difficulty spike and it was still p easy

Killed her within 15 seconds

[midnight totem]

True, damnation difficulty is more from invisible crushers

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-trauma-imagination-spongebob-gif-23778560

[somber axle]

I went all Damnation difficulty for fun

The fun part was watching squadmates die to poxwalkers and trying to protect them

[midnight totem]

I'm almost done with it. I play one round a night

[last parcel]

the fun part was turning hud off and not realizing i was hogging the medkit

[somber axle]

The most fun part was when my squad went down and I had to 1v1 Rinda LOL

[midnight totem]

I went back to auric yesterday for a round to stop playing black out missions

Still qp'd into a black out

[somber axle]

Luckily Lights Out is my fav and Exe Stance is perfect for it

Someone who hates lights out must hate this event

[tall torrent]

yea it's horrible

[radiant chasm]

My eyes hurry

Hurty

[scarlet path]

That and thirdperson users

Source: Am a thirdperson user

[tame lodge]

I like it, still wouldn't play more than 2 per day

[scarlet path]

I was grinding them out all at once so i wouldnt have to play anymore lol

Now i can focus on my relic penances again

[somber axle]

The horror themes feel nice with it on

Poxwalker horde standing in a room all letting out a big roar when they notice the squad

Trailer vibes

[scarlet path]

I wish that in the regular gamemode you could come across-

[scarlet path]

yes that

In the normal gamemode with lights on i wanna see poxwalker hordes just being in place in areas

Instead of just standing in front of one of the spawn doors spamming melee and killing them all before you can even see them

[tall torrent]

hear pox hound
get ready to push pox hound
push early because cannot actually see pox hound
get a ghost hit

worst modifier by far

[last parcel]

how often does that even happen

[dense tartan]

[

[elder fiber]

]

[gilded wraith]

I use the modifier to find all the holes in grating or missing guardrails I might have otherwise overlooked.

[somber axle]

I've been really lucky because a lot of the time the hound just whiffs the pounce and launches past me

Even weird moments where I'm pinned in a corner by ragers/poxwalkers and can't really move, and the hound still misses, lands next to me and dies to cleave

[umbral scaffold]

Survivalist any good for Vld?

[lucid hinge]

they should bring back the goofy pox hounds of launch

[slow spade]

Survivalist is good for any build

Of course it can be swapped out if points don't fit your needs

[midnight totem]

Harlequin magic

[slow spade]

No fuck that lol

Now that they do actually dangerous damage

[radiant chasm]

Tbh not needed with shocktrooper

Take it for no ammo maelstroms if some vet isn’t already taking survivalist

[somber axle]

It's nice to have with Shock Trooper if you are going down left tree for Exe Stance but otherwise doesn't feel necessary deviating from middle or right path to reach (even more so if you are going for Onslaught, Rending Strikes and Shock Trooper)

[umbral scaffold]

sounds good, thanks

[hot whale]

Yo does anyone have a lasgun build that’s auric ready? I really want to play as just a normal gaurdsmen but I feel like my lasguns underperforming

[slow spade]

Lasguns are underperforming in Auric

Still usable

[radiant chasm]

Def wouldn’t say lasguns are under performing at all

[last parcel]

i run this
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cc5233b-e1d8-4ff3-9410-69413f985602/12th-boykisser-grenadier-division

[radiant chasm]

Underneath the mighty revolver, plasma, ciag trio yes

But inflas and recons are def auric viable and helbores just need practice and skill

[hot whale]

Does rending strikes actually help the lasgun hit any breakpoints?

[last parcel]

maybe it shaves off an mf stack for flamers but i just took it because le funny grenade bleed hehe

[hot whale]

I might swap that out for Brig It Down that way I can do the push attack combo on my power sword for crushers

[last parcel]

go ahead

[slow spade]

Na they suck

Fatshark 200 damage -> 2000 damage kk thx

Also Handcannon for Recon

[last parcel]

damn need lasgun on my dick

[slow spade]

True the Omnissiah provides 😩

[primal remnant]

take it to zealot chat

[last parcel]

no respite 😩

[hot whale]

Chat I gotta be real

I don’t understand the Zaza corona hype

Maybe it’s bc I didn’t get the perfect combo

That’s probably it

But idk

[radiant chasm]

On an infernus 6d it does iirc, other ones can skip it

[radiant chasm]

Zaza corona?

[last parcel]

zarona

[last parcel]

rending strikes helps all recons and even without infernus

though that's not really considered a breakpoint thing

[radiant chasm]

zarona only really needs surgical and good stats and perks, hand cannon isn't even that much needed tbh

also, it's a waepon that scales off difficulty

the more conga lines the better

[radiant chasm]

yea more like ttk, i hate how breakpoint term broke into non breakpoint weapons

[hot whale]

Infernus 🤮

[radiant chasm]

?

headhunter infernus on 6d is perfectly good

[hot whale]

I dunno if it’s a me thing

[tall torrent]

Breakpoints only matter for low firerate high damage weapons

[radiant chasm]

especially at distances

[tall torrent]

Automatics they don’t matter much

[hot whale]

But I’d rather just kill
Something faster than set it on fire for DoT

[tall torrent]

Especially if it’s a crit-heavy weapon

[tall torrent]

Then dum dum + infernus, take crit chance perk & talent

[radiant chasm]

with how fast 6d stacks up infernus AND the brittle on hit talent

[tall torrent]

Skip onslaught

[hot whale]

Why not just take dum dum and head something, the crit one?

[radiant chasm]

you aren't really playing the for the dot, it's just that the dot is the best for dps on one specific recon after X meters

[tall torrent]

Recon finesse is awful

[radiant chasm]

iirc, the recon crit mod isn't that good by itself

[tall torrent]

Headhunter exists solely to save ammo basically

but u can get a serviceable crit chance without headhunter

with 5% crit chance in both perk & talent u can have 29% practical crit chance

[radiant chasm]

idk

i don't feel the perk is worth it

25% to an important armor is a ton

[hot whale]

Kinda want to try an auto gun, braced or infantry I don’t really mind either, but which should I use for like general purpose

[tall torrent]

columnus mk5 is 2nd best gun for veteran

[radiant chasm]

ciag infantry auto is the best

[tall torrent]

it's kinda boring how strong it is

[hot whale]

Still? I know it was a while ago but it still is?

[radiant chasm]

braced autos are like Counterstrike/rambo guns

and headhunters are good, just not as good as the infantry autos, mk3 loves headhunter deadly accurate and mk7 is a DMR

[tall torrent]

Braced Autoguns are like infantry Autoguns with half the effective range, lower finesse and slower reload

[radiant chasm]

yea but they absolutely rambo and don't need to land headshots like an infantry

[hot whale]

Yeah but consider the amount of dakka you get

[radiant chasm]

while they are "worse" they aren't by any means terrible

you can always stand still and tapfire for long range

[tall torrent]

Funnily enough they’re worse than Columnus mk5 at running & gunning too
Only 2 dodges, slower reload, slower sprint to fire (Columnus mk5 has instant sprint to fire)

On infantry Autoguns u can do a reload trick to essentially give urself double-stack mags

[last parcel]

oh i was wondering why that would happen to me

[umbral scaffold]

aite

[last parcel]

felt like i was using jungle mags

[tame schooner]

Are powerswords any good lads? And if so, which one is better for horde clearing?

[tall torrent]

Mk6

[serene bough]

Mk6 is universally the better pick

[tame schooner]

ty ty, are they decent in general?

[tall torrent]

Top 3 veteran melee