BM always winning cause its fucking strong
#veteran-class
faint beacon
last parcel
yeah but does bm have an acdc song
thorn lark
BM does fuck all against multiple crushers
faint beacon
BM does fuck all against multiple crushers
Cause of its nerf, however Thats a more of a case scenario going after specifically Ogryn enemies
I wouldn't be surprised if
Throne help me
PS3 with Sunder was more effective on Ogryns
quiet valley
Idk just 2 hit crushers with the 6 and spam shout/kraks to stagger groups
faint beacon
Is it bad that I prefer the PS3 over the PS6?
idk something about the perfect Horizontal swings tickles the brain right
tall torrent
wdym
austere mica
The heavy attack damage boost
faint beacon
the PA on PS6 is classified as a Light
tall torrent
Sunder's heavy damage
oh that, yea
it's only for heavy atks
but sunder's cleave still works for PA
thorn lark
Cause of its nerf, however Thats a more of a case scenario going after specifica...
BM osing crusher was a shovel thing not a psword one
tribal tangle
does the plasma gun need carapace for any breakpoints?
tall torrent
does the plasma gun need carapace for any breakpoints?
No, it needs elite
last parcel
what if i use this and dumped stopping power to
austere mica
What weapons is this for
mighty anvil
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b87b5fd-c1aa-4605-9515-e5f762e17a52/stormtrooper-veteran-krak-grenade-voice-of-command-weapon-specialist-auric-ready
Thinking of running this but swapping out columnus for a recon lasgun
austere mica
Grenade tinker on kraks only affects boss damage
Also weapon spec only affects attack speed and the brittleness on hits node only works well with the mk6 recon
mighty anvil
Also weapon spec only affects attack speed and the brittleness on hits node only...
is the mk6 the fastest firing of the recons?
mighty anvil
Thank you, i've been getting annoyed with the lack of range the columnus has
tame lodge
It's probably to compensate for the insane dps
You know
Gotta be balanced or something
somber axle
is the mk6 the fastest firing of the recons?
Yeah it has the highest rate of fire and the largest magazine capacity of all the Recons
DPS/TTK (single target)
Mk II > Mk VIIa > MK VId
DPS/TTK (multi target)
Mk VIIa > Mk VId > Mk II
DPS/TTK (carapace)
Mk VId > Mk VIIa > Mk II
Ammo Efficiency
Mk II > Mk VIIa > Mk VId
Recon Mk VIIa: 50-54 shots (2 ammo cost per shot, 100-108 ammo per clip)
Recon Mk II: 100-108 shots (1 ammo cost per shot, 100-108 ammo per clip)
Recon Mk VId: 160-180 shots (1 ammo cost per shot, 160-180 ammo per clip)
Recon Mk VId has the highest rate of fire, Recon Mk VIIa has a cleave value of 3 on each shot. To explain the cleave it means it can shoot 2 poxwalkers down (each has a hit mass of 1.2) so the first shot will penetrate it and strike the target behind it too. This is extra helpful for cleaving through hordes to hit a Rager in the middle of them
Keep in mind that the Recon Mk II and Recon Mk VIIa have very little difference on single target DPS. Like only 200-400 DPS depending on target which is pretty insignificant for TTK on most specials/elites. The major difference between the Recon Mk II and Recon Mk VIIa are ammo efficiency and cleave. Recon Mk II's ammo efficiency is the best of all the Recons by a massive margin. Both the Recon Mk VIIa and Recon Mk VId will eat ammo noticeably faster
Pick which ever variant you like most because they're all good
Also the Recon Mk VId is the only one with good Crusher kill potential through Rending Strikes + Onslaught
The Recon Mk II and especially the Recon Mk VIIa have a fire rate too slow to capitalize on Onslaught to get any meaningful effect from it
If you bring a good melee that can kill Crushers it's not a big deal though
It's just really, really fun being able to go full auto in a Crusher face and kill it in a couple seconds LOL
Also to explain this better
Even if you go Marksman's Focus -> CitA + Rending Strikes and get 10 stacks of MF to maintain the extra rending from CitA you still end up with less DPS and a worse TTK on Crushers using both the Recon Mk II and Recon Mk VIIa vs using a Recon Mk VId using Rending Strikes and Onslaught
It's just not worth shooting at Crushers when you're using the Recon Mk II or Recon Mk VIIa imo
even with a funny rending build
tame lodge
heavy rover
mighty anvil
Yeah it has the highest rate of fire and the largest magazine capacity of all th...
Thank you, my iossue rn is without dum dum it takes too long to kill Maulers
last parcel
you give me a tldr
no but you can have it like this
last parcel
suffer
hard cave
mighty anvil
Chronically Online
heavy rover
this is some gourmet-level shitposting
somber axle
you give me a tldr
Recon Mk II: Good ammo efficiency
Recon Mk VId: Fast fire rate, good magazine size
Recon Mk VIIa: Cleave
heavy rover
you can really push the ammo efficiency with the right build (e.g. headhunter and 5% crit on the recon lasgun), then get even more crit like through Reciprocity, 5% crit on talent tree, and Opening Salvo (if you really want to push it)
hard cave
Opening Salvo is really funny
if it weren't for the fact that I'm dog shit at shooting, my build would be amazing
heavy rover
I find Reciprocity to be more than ample to boost up the efficiency
uncut pebble
no but you can have it like this
What the, and I cannot stress this enough, FUCK is wrong with you? Why is literally everything you do layered in boykisser memes?
Hurts my eyeballs to look at it.
heavy rover
Can you imagine using Deadshot on recon lasgun
heavy rover
so when the psykers talk about nightmare in their dreams... it is all just boykisser memes that the warp keeps sending them?
hard cave
I'm starting to think backup is a boykisser
sharp cloak
faint beacon
no but you can have it like this
I will never understand how you can like do shit like that
You have no shame I seriously do not understand you, you're an anomaly to me
last parcel
I will never understand how you can like do shit like that
it's a really simple edit with image manipulation software
mighty anvil
does this affect ranged weapons
last parcel
gimp is free and there's tons of tutorials on youtube
last parcel
does this affect ranged weapons
yes
faint beacon
does this affect ranged weapons
yes\
mighty anvil
ty
mighty anvil
is this good?
broken terrace
tender inlet
is this good?
Terrible roll on a terrible gun
Oh lmao
I didn't know I was in vet chat.
I mean it's still a bad roll
I just don't know if it's a bad gun for vet
tall torrent
I just don't know if it's a bad gun for vet
It’s ok
warm swallow
ive heard i can make a meme build with this
quiet valley
Gloryhunter to Crucian Roulette
Honestly sustained fire is more reasonable for consistant boss dmg but Trickshooter is higher potential dmg
hidden torrent
gimp is free and there's tons of tutorials on youtube
We all know you're a gimp
junior needle
Recon Mk II: Good ammo efficiency
Recon Mk VId: Fast fire rate, good magazine si...
You're slacking, there's more to it
7a is nearly tied for ammo efficiency with the 2 🤓
rigid pilot
I've been playing minimum investment FT builds with 7a, currently using kraks but I'm not sure if shredders would be better
thorn lark
7a is nearly tied for ammo efficiency with the 2 🤓
take the 6d and live the good life, ammo efficiency is not a problem if you're the first to open the crates
warm swallow
im tryna do the agrip revolver silly build
anyone have the tree i need?
this is what i have but idk if its correct
thorn lark
im tryna do the agrip revolver silly build
@formal lake i think it's yours
warm swallow
they offline rn cole also @ed them
quiet valley
im tryna do the agrip revolver silly build
tall torrent
I am betting the next hotfix will be about cosmetic stuff
Yea it’ll be fresh rotation if we’re getting a hotfix
That’s when they add stuff
thorn lark
it's fresh rotation week
mighty anvil
Is punishing salvo good on this?
austere mica
Punishing salvo isn’t good in general
junior needle
Is punishing salvo good on this?
Not really, a salvo is any continuous fire without stopping to let the recoil reset
You are bullet hosing with that, not tap firing
rigid pilot
Is raking any good
frank basin
for mutie
can do good
or bulwark targeting your team
magdump on their back
i wonder about BoN weakspot does include catagorized as their back?
thick kestrel
I tend to enjoy the dum-dum/raking combo on stealth Vet.
it has the advantage of getting instantly up to speed for bonuses rather than needing a few kills like fire frenzy. downside is that most weakpoints are harder to get from the back... so it's kind of a trade off in that respect.
of course it's VERY good for taking on Beasts or Nurgle where the weak point IS on the back ^^
but it's a consistency thing, you need to be willing to work your way forward and around the enemy to take advantage of it so a slightly more melee oriented veteran build is probably a good idea.
combined with stealth and low profile you can do some nasty work very quickly.
it's a lot of quick burst without the need to keep the gun active to preserve fire-frenzy or death spitter stacks but only if you get past the halfway mark on targets
rigid pilot
Raking
The only issue I have is that the difference between headshots and bodyshots is huge on iags
umbral scaffold
Yeah, it puts me off a bit
Same with the headhunters, and those are specially awful for maniac
You can nuke an enemy with headshots, but it's like you're firing foam darts on the body
rigid pilot
Most enemies in the game have forward facing heads that back backstab headshots quite challenging 
The only guy with a proper posture is mauler
muted knot
Is punishing salvo good on this?
Never is
woven olive
who else here enjoys running tac axe on vet? i love it bleeding enemies applying brittleness and heck their the only weapons that 10% to elites is actually good on because a well made build will have the axe just eat up maniacs and flak so much going for those perks is over kill not to mention running it with carapace 25% will already eat a maulers and crushers up in mere moments haha i love tac axes
rigid pilot
If you change tac axe with knife and brittleness with uncanny then yea 100%
woven olive
haha nah tac axe is great might not got that knife spring but i got good spam dps lol
somber axle
7a is nearly tied for ammo efficiency with the 2 🤓
Psh nah. 2 ammo used per shot on the Recon Mk VIIa means it has half the effective ammo supply of the Recon Mk II and since it has less DPS on single target it isn't doing better on anything but line-up target ammo efficiency. Aside from columns of shotgunners and spraying into hordes it will always do worse ammo efficiency wise
The buff to the reserve ammo on the Recon Mk VIIa didn't put it in the same ballpark as far as ammo efficiency, it just put it in the parking lot
It's still better than the Recon Mk VId but definitely behind the Recon Mk II
junior needle
Psh nah. 2 ammo used per shot on the Recon Mk VIIa means it has half the effecti...
2 ammo used per shot on the Recon Mk VIIa means it has half the effective ammo supply of the Recon Mk II
somber axle
Yes
junior needle
It does more damage per shot
I've already shown you the math
It does NOT have half the ammo efficiency
It's only about 2000~ damage behind the 2
somber axle
If you have 108 ammo in your clip for the Recon Mk II you have 108 shots. If you have 108 ammo in the clip for the Recon Mk VIIa you have 54 shots
Unless you are counting poxwalker cleave it's not competing
somber axle
Yes even comparing the reserve which are both on par
The Recon Mk VIIa would need near double the reserve to have the same number of shots and it does not do more DPS, it does less
somber axle
It's literally only breaking even if you Psyk Warrior line up Shotgunner heads or something
somber axle
Per shot yes, and still less DPS
Meaning that they're both still tracking relatively the same TTK even of the Mk II is doing better DPS
junior needle
Is this only in the clown special
somber axle
But the Mk II is using less ammo per target
I tested them both using the same talent set up
junior needle
That doesn't answer the question 
somber axle
If you use more ammo per target you have worse ammo efficiency
somber axle
Is this only in the clown special
No
The Recon Mk II just does slightly higher single target DPS
The faster fire rate puts it above the Recon Mk VIIa's slower fire rate and higher damage per shot
junior needle
Whether or not it uses more ammo is highly situational and dependent on enemy health
somber axle
It always uses more ammo
junior needle
If you're gonna advise people, at least give a more accurate rundown
somber axle
The only time you may see the Recon Mk VIIa use less ammo on a kill vs the Recon Mk II is when the VIIa gets lucky back to back crit strings and the Recon Mk II ends up in a crit famine during two compared recordings and even then they probably used roughly the same ammo spent
It is accurate to all my clown science testing
Because despite all this the Recon Mk II still clearly has better ammo economy
junior needle
I literally said that the mk2 has slightly higher ammo efficiency
So that would math out
But it's a SMALL amount, and there's a much bigger gap between those 2 models and the 6d
somber axle
I think the only time you'd have better ammo efficiency is for body shotting hordes
It's not that small tbh
somber axle
The Recon Mk VIIa goes through a clip faster because of using twice the ammo per shot
junior needle
That doesn't really matter
somber axle
That's the theoretical number yes, but you're not always going to be meeting that ideal number
junior needle
Let's not get off topic with tiny details
junior needle
Reloading slightly more is not a big deal
somber axle
A gun using 2 ammo per shot and a gun using 1 ammo per shot is a major distinction when looking at two guns that have the same clip size
That also means they have to look at their reserve ammo and cut that number in half to understand their total number of effective shots
junior needle
Uh huh
somber axle
Just because you can cleave 3 groaners in 1 shot doesn't mean you multiply the ammo reserve by 1.5x or something
junior needle
You can mention it sure, but it's not a big deal if it has to reload a bit more
Also it's prevalent on shooters and certain specials
somber axle
It's not just reloading more
The buff to reserve ammo did not put it beyond the Recon Mk II as far as ammo economy, it just improved the Recon Mk VIIa's ability to sustain longer periods fire between ammo pick ups before running orange and improved ammo returns from Surv Aura
The number is deceptive because it is always going to be half the number of shots the Recon Mk II can output and it is not doing double the damage of the Recon Mk II, it's actually doing less DPS
somber axle
so it's always going to be objectively worse and noticeably so
junior needle
Slightly less single target dps, not really noticeable outside of juiced setups, but with cleave.
Nearly the same ammo efficiency
somber axle
like I have a funny build using Marksman's Focus CitA + Rending Strikes to juice the Recon Mk VIIa and Recon Mk II into ok Crusher DPS but they still fall behind the Recon Mk VId on Crusher killing, I doubt others use that build, but it's surprisingly easy to maintain 10+ stacks of MF now after MF duration buffs so I still leave them in the tree as Recon Mk VId > Recon Mk VIIa > Recon Mk II because you can play them into Crusher killing if you want to
if I didn't include that possibility of rending stacking they just wouldn't be in the chart for Carapace period
and I do always warn that the Recon Mk VId requires Onslaught + Rending Strikes
wicked epoch
is vet chat really debating about reloadingg
somber axle
and that the other two variants cannot get much value from Onslaught and definitely not enough value to change DPS on Crushers enough to justify the talent tax
junior needle
We've already gone over this
Also 6d does not require onslaught
It only provides a practical benefit for crushers
somber axle
It doesn't but it is the only Recon that can be reliably and effectively made into a Crusher face melter which I include because it's really fun LOL
Plus I really love Weapon Specialist with the Recon Mk VId because you stack Onslaught to cap faster than any other weapon in the game
somber axle
It only provides a practical benefit for crushers
Tbh being able to spray down Crushers is valuable
It lets me bring something like Chainsword because I find it fun without needing to rely on Bloodletter/Bloodthirsty to get consistent Crusher kills
Then you don't need to rely too heavily on Knife, Rashad Axe Mk II, Power Sword, etc. to kill Crushers and you only need to spend less than a couple seconds spraying a Crusher face to make it fall over
It's definitely loadout/build dependent for sure but it's also very fun and teaching players they can turn one of the Recons into an effective Crusher killing tool is relevant and fun
It's like Lawbringer Manstopper/Scattershot memes
It's not the most effective build in the game but it is very fun
somber axle
is vet chat really debating about reloadingg
I just woke up because my cat kept headbutting me at 4 am and checked my phone for memes and saw a ping from this server
but yeah LOL
pseudo fiber
It is common
wicked epoch
I just woke up because my cat kept headbutting me at 4 am and checked my phone f...
go back to sleep
reloading isnt more important than sleep
wicked epoch
go to karkin sleep
wicked epoch
sleep
wicked epoch
heavy rover
What do you mean being awake early on your day off, enjoy the extra sleep fam
Or at least take a good nap later in the day or something
somber axle
I fell asleep after I got home tbh
I am a night owl. I enjoy being up either extra early or extra late because the night hours are quiet
last parcel
I just woke up because my cat kept headbutting me at 4 am and checked my phone f...
the vet chat special
plush jetty
what do you think ?
last parcel
what do you think ?
would use to shoot up the schola 
slow spade
what do you think ?
I'd change Punishing Salvo but idk what blessings that gun has
Pretty good overall though
pseudo fiber
Dumdum
last parcel
wow no need for insults
hard cave
would use to shoot up the schola <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
this joke sucks
:(
clear lantern
would use to shoot up the schola <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
extremely poor taste
plush jetty
what blessings to put on the Vraks 7 ? I was thinking of Opening Salvo and Headhunter
tame lodge
They have surgical
vocal cipher
Surgical and headhunter fucks. Combine it with Executioners stance and you’ll wreck any non-crusher with relative ease
odd oak
what blessings to put on the Vraks 7 ? I was thinking of Opening Salvo and Headh...
I'd go with surgical and opening salvo. You'll get stacks just resetting your salvo anyway.
I've also tried surgical with critical weakness, makes it a decent (though slow) carapace option.
radiant chasm
what blessings to put on the Vraks 7 ? I was thinking of Opening Salvo and Headh...
surgical+ DA
radiant chasm
Surgical and headhunter fucks. Combine it with Executioners stance and you’ll wr...
why stack both, surgical and headhunter both hit 100% crit chance independently
opening salvo and surgical could also work, i prefer DA for the big finesse boost
slow spade
would use to shoot up the schola <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Joke is fine
slow spade
opening salvo and surgical could also work, i prefer DA for the big finesse boos...
Orange > white
100% crit is superior build
radiant chasm
yes but surgical already hits 100%
and with shit like deadshot you barely have to wait until what, half stacks?
slow spade
Overkill is the best kill
Besides I usually have to fire a bunch of rounds because AI likes to spawn elites by the dozen
So rip surgical stacks
vocal cipher
why stack both, surgical and headhunter both hit 100% crit chance independently
Might give that a try
last parcel
surgical + headhunter + crit chance perk + deadshot + crit chance node + reciprocity v7
tame lodge
Plus 33% from WS
last parcel
yes
heavy rover
that's a hilarious amount of crit
faint beacon
Mods allowing me to change my irons because I prefer irons
last parcel
brauto irons on helbores go hard
pseudo fiber
Download the mod to put the hellbore irons on more guns
tame lodge
Helbore on their way to teach me how to see my target through the iron sights
slow spade
that's a hilarious amount of crit
If I see a white damage number, I immediately alt f4
novel stone
Hey y'all been a while
I'm trying to make my chainsword work a bit better in auric what's the best blessings for it? I'm running with shred and bloodlet rn
Is rampage still good for it?
radiant chasm
I'm trying to make my chainsword work a bit better in auric what's the best bles...
rampage savage sweep or rampage wrath on mk13
novel stone
Thought it still might be that
Thank you ferret man
Why mk13 specificly I heard it was slightly worse when it came out @radiant chasm
radiant chasm
Why mk13 specificly I heard it was slightly worse when it came out <@30121793830...
it is literally less than 5% worse, it just needs wrath because it has no easy access to a sweep that can proc savage sweep and rampage into dense flak
mk4 can use heavies and get rampage+sweep ready even into bruisers, mk13 has to get some wrath stacks first
last parcel
it is literally less than 5% worse, it just needs wrath because it has no easy a...
it has PA into heavy light loop
novel stone
Then in this case wouldn't 4 be better?
last parcel
but I aint doing all that
radiant chasm
the difference is marginal enough i'll leave it up to preference
faint beacon
4 is if you enjoy easier cleave through heavies
13g is literally turn brain off spam lights
Why it’s always recommended to run wrath with it even though it does have a heavy horde clear option through using PA
faint beacon
I should include shred for mk4 as well tbh
Shred actually good on 4?
Cause I notice Shred + Wrath is filthy on 13g
tall torrent
Shred actually good on 4?
yea cuz chainsword doesn't drop finesse bonus through cleave
faint beacon
Interesting
Suppose I should ask if you have a way to show off major blessings and like “side picks” in your 2.5 guide
tall torrent
it's not as good as rashad vs bruisers but it kills dense pox hordes pretty well
tall torrent
Suppose I should ask if you have a way to show off major blessings and like “sid...
major is underlined
so in that chart for mk13g it's wrath (major) + rampage/shred (optional)
severe gale
it's not as good as rashad vs bruisers but it kills dense pox hordes pretty well
is anything
aside from like
ogryn shield
tall torrent
is anything
Rashad is not the highest clear speed vs pox horde
severe gale
i meant for bruisers
tall torrent
That idk
severe gale
maybe heavy sword
tall torrent
U can check in creature spawner
severe gale
i would but
tall torrent
Apparently it’s knife 6 (but with a very weird build)
severe gale
so comfy in bed
last parcel
is anything
manstopper agri
tall torrent
so comfy in bed
severe gale
manstopper agri <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
i meant melee
faint beacon
For bruiser 1 taps right
last parcel
i meant melee
zarona bash
faint beacon
It clicked to me right now why the argument of Veteran grenade regen needing a nerf doesn’t really make sense when all the other classes have a Blitz option that’s either Infinite or a way to get them back
tribal pelican
what blessings should i be grinding for on a recon las?
odd sparrow
what blessings should i be grinding for on a recon las?
dumdum is the only must have blessing
headhunter is the runner up as its essentially extra ammo
tame lodge
And then Deathspitter for Recon 7a meme material
tribal pelican
just got this bad boy lol once itemization is out im set
odd sparrow
just got this bad boy lol once itemization is out im set
you dont even need the new itemization that thing is 3/4 BIS
tame lodge
Yup
odd sparrow
just change weakspot --> maniac
and you have a literal godroll
only damage being 1% off full
tribal pelican
1 tier short on the blesssings but yhea
odd sparrow
true altho its a pretty small differencec
tribal pelican
I thought the burn stack whas meta on recon las?
I do nto play vet very often though im likeing it more and more so im not very knowlagable
odd sparrow
its good for boss dmg. But just shooting is generally better
severe gale
zarona bash <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
if u zarona bash a poxburster
it pushes it into you
and it’s so dumb lmfao
odd sparrow
because most targets die within 0.5-1.5 seconds of shooting so the burn stacks dont really do much
severe gale
I thought the burn stack whas meta on recon las?
burn stacks won’t really increase TTK compared to dumdum except in very specific situations
(bosses, reapers)
last parcel
and it’s so dumb lmfao
that's why it's the goat
odd sparrow
unless you wanna do a super janky shoot into crowds build where you constantly move around your mouse to apply burn sttacks to different enemies
tribal pelican
burn stacks won’t really increase TTK compared to dumdum except in very specific...
but is that really worse then headhunter? maybe im not understanding headhunter but it seems really bad
odd sparrow
but is that really worse then headhunter? maybe im not understanding headhunter ...
headhunter is better because recon has crit strings.
so 1 crit is secretly 3
and thats 3 free ammo with shock trooper+ some extra dmg
severe gale
but is that really worse then headhunter? maybe im not understanding headhunter ...
headhunter increases your crit chance dramatically, crits deal more damage and have psuedo rending
along with what loke said
last parcel
but is that really worse then headhunter? maybe im not understanding headhunter ...
crits mean free ammo because of the shock trooper talent
last parcel
headhunter is better because recon has crit strings.
so 1 crit is secretly 3
it's a 2 string
tribal pelican
headhunter is better because recon has crit strings.
so 1 crit is secretly 3
hmmmmmm okay because in my math it was only saving like 7% ammo over the course of 100 shots but that changes things
did nto know recon crits wore actually three crits in a trench coat
severe gale
hmmmmmm okay because in my math it was only saving like 7% ammo over the course ...
it’s waayyy more than 7%, your math must be off
odd sparrow
theoretically burn damage is better. the problem is you would much prefer to just kill an enemy instead of waiting for burn to kill them
severe gale
^
tribal pelican
so yall would really keep flak over weakspot damage on this?
severe gale
so yall would really keep flak over weakspot damage on this?
weakspot sucks
it’s not calculated the way you think it is
swap it to maniac
tribal pelican
I know for a fact i DO want maniac shooting them in the grinder feels badd
tribal pelican
it’s not calculated the way you think it is
herd
tribal pelican
oh shit ya I actually knew this at some point lol iv got like 600 hours but just came back from large hiatus supper misleading
whats the deal with longshot perk in the talent tree sombody mentioned that that was also very misleading but never explained further
severe gale
that i don’t know
severe gale
whats the deal with longshot perk in the talent tree sombody mentioned that that...
ah i see
longshot’s damage now procs at 12.5 meters
so you have to be 50% further away in order to get the buff
tribal pelican
ah
on that note dumdum sure does have a unique defenition of "close range kill"
shit its triggering from half way across the meat grunder
severe gale
the damage does fall off at range
bonus damage*
last parcel
on that note dumdum sure does have a unique defenition of "close range kill"
It stacks on any hit but the bonus is close range damage
*repeated hit
tribal pelican
It stacks on any hit but the bonus is close range damage
im seeing that now wording makes it seem the other way around
tall torrent
headhunter is better because recon has crit strings.
so 1 crit is secretly 3
no, 1 crit on Recon is 2 successive crits (2-string)
3-string is Columnus/Graia IAG
last parcel
they should give agri revolver 5 crit string
last parcel
opening salvo value
full summit
The Emperor has granted me his favour through Melk today
dmg on the low side, but other than Specialists dmg, this is solid perks/blessings.
tall torrent
dmg on the low side, but other than Specialists dmg, this is solid perks/blessin...
unfortunately plasma gun really wants very high dmg & SP rolls
full summit
unfortunately plasma gun really wants very high dmg & SP rolls
yeah, but for not having one at all yet, I will take it
tame lodge
Yeah, get some Elites in there
faint beacon
25% extra damage on pox walkers 💪💪💪💪
tame lodge
Get unarmored for maximum groaner erasure
idle pecan
Thinking of doing a double barrel knife build
Prolly man stopper and scatter shot on shotty with flak maniac
And on the knife maniac uny with uncanny and precog
Rock a stealth crit build so I can do the clutch gaming
crimson pebble
Youd want mercy and precog over uncanny and precog me thinks
This is the build i use for that exact thing tho
junior needle
severe gale
hi soldier
solar zodiac
solar zodiac
join the infested damage gang
last parcel
https://tenor.com/view/why-would-you-do-that-gif-9497803
because
solar zodiac
fair enough
tribal pelican
<a:SadgePray:1147136912092573736>
what gun did you use?
solar zodiac
what gun did you use?
Plasma gun
tribal pelican
I want the infiltration penece chest armor so bad but i hate infuriate
tame lodge
I want the infiltration penece chest armor so bad but i hate infuriate
Infiltrator pants>>>>>
Goes hard with the moebian chest piece at 4500
tall torrent
whats the deal with longshot perk in the talent tree sombody mentioned that that...
Longshot is not worth it now
wind patio
Fun Veteran fact of the day: Executioner's Stance grants stun immunity for its duration.
idle swallow
Pop exe stance right before I eat a crusher overhead
Go down anyways
At least I wasn't stunned
frigid swallow
Hi guys! Just got back to Darktide recently for a long time. Did they ever release anything in terms of Karsrkin cosmetics?
tall torrent
Hi guys! Just got back to Darktide recently for a long time. Did they ever rele...
Yes but it’s out of rotation now
faint beacon
Fun Veteran fact of the day: Executioner's Stance grants stun immunity for its d...
Get puked on by BON, Pop Exe stance for the sole reason of running away
Nailed it
frigid swallow
Yes but it’s out of rotation now
got it, thank you for the heads up! Hopefully it comes back again in a few months!
faint beacon
got it, thank you for the heads up! Hopefully it comes back again in a few month...
Still waiting for the Steel Legion set…
frigid swallow
Im curious if it includes the cool karsrkin helmet on it? I heard they just use the standard cadia helmet instead
somber axle
Im curious if it includes the cool karsrkin helmet on it? I heard they just use...
no full armoured facemask + visor
but weirdly the little cloth mask has a distorted voice effect not present on other cloth masks
personally waiting for these pants to go into rotation to swap out
frigid swallow
ah. Hoping one day the full visor helmet kicks in then
somber axle
the closest we have to a full helmet like that is the Enforcer set
there's also the Tempestuous Scions helmet but that helmet still lacks a full set to pair with
frigid swallow
yeah i got that one for the Ogryn lol
tall torrent
Im curious if it includes the cool karsrkin helmet on it? I heard they just use...
No, unfortunately
I use the scion helm with it tho, goes hard
umbral scaffold
i mean my fingers hurt alot after work so if i can save myself 1000 less clicks ill do it
marble mantle
yeah i got that one for the Ogryn lol
OGRYN BEST!
frigid swallow
No, unfortunately
I use the scion helm with it tho, goes hard
I mean it doesnt look bad honestly, though it just feels sorta out of place at the same time xD
lyric dock
Still annoyed Psyker gets gimped on having a helmet like the rest
umbral scaffold
i mean there isnt that many helmets with photovisors in-game to be fair there should be atleast one of the deffault with a photovisor
woven olive
we need to get fat shark to add a neck cover for scion lol
umbral scaffold
Still annoyed Psyker gets gimped on having a helmet like the rest
hey atleast psyker gets good cosmetics, zelots has,,... gimp suits and masks and ,..,, cult memeber suits robers..,.. no helmet but 1. the EAs ones (mancunio/beta/skulls/21st) (only for thoses that were there only half count)
if youd ask me why i avoided playing thoses 2 classes for the longest were for thoses exact two reasons
idk they dont look like fighters, just dfw the vibe they put off
faint beacon
Me forever using the flak helm + mask combos
umbral scaffold
what's the best melee weapon for keeping a horde under control? having trouble finding my 'comfort' weapon as i progress to higher difficulties, in vt2 my main weapon was rapier on WHC, I never felt at risk in the middle of a horde and kinda looking for that feeling in darktide
i dont really care if it can deal with carapace because I have krak grenades, I just started auric difficulty missions and i went from being comfortable in melee to getting knocked / killed on repeat seemingly, just wanting something with good cleave that keeps everything in front of me staggered if that exists
woven olive
the new batons are good for stagger
the devils claw swords have parry and cleave
and then there are the tac axes for quick response against most enemies and great stamina regen
test items see what works for you
umbral scaffold
thank you I'll give those a shot
mental cloud
Any advice on this? Bricked? I’m experimenting with different melee weapons.
last parcel
Any advice on this? Bricked? I’m experimenting with different melee weapons.
rampage and flak are what you want so it's very much not bricked
woven olive
not to bad it can help get you out of a pinch try it with voice of command and and get the brittleness perks form the right side the tree
should tear ass real good
neon estuary
quick question, how to suppress enemies while infiltrate?
fossil basalt
stand near em and break stealth
last parcel
quick question, how to suppress enemies while infiltrate?
have it end while standing near them
neon estuary
with melee or shooting?
last parcel
Trauma good or nah?
not really
last parcel
with melee or shooting?
yes
faint beacon
with melee or shooting?
Yes as in anything
last parcel
yes I'd stick my dick in a scab gunner
woven olive
Trauma good or nah?
trauma is fine if you plan on primary spamming and want something that survives the first hit(s) to stagger but backup is right not that great on the sword
faint beacon
You melee one gunner the surrounding gunners will be suppressed
neon estuary
well in that case, i'll just do the tf2 spy fashion then
last parcel
measure twice
neon estuary
i'll just stick with my usual powersword for infiltrate
faint beacon
i'll just stick with my usual powersword for infiltrate
Mk6 Combat Blade, Uncanny Strike + Mercy Killer and Serrated Blade talent
It’s a shit ton of fun for an Infiltrate build
neon estuary
ok
crimson pebble
It’s a shit ton of fun for an Infiltrate build
faint beacon
ok
Basically with a knife build you want to focus hitting weak spots which both blessings benefit off of, also precision strikes on the left near bottom side, absolutely pick that up and your knife will hit really fucking hard
last parcel
appearing out of nowhere with a glowy sword is funny too
faint beacon
Glowing sword jumpscare
pseudo pecan
I notice I can hit weak spots easier with the knife than I do with the chainsword.
although I still swipe heads off left and right
does the shovel one hit most things?
(ads)
not elites and specials
I mainly just wanna slay hordes with extreme prejudice
like I was wanting to be all space marine with the chain sword but it's not got that oomph on the armored heretics
or scabs
hidden torrent
If you want to be a space marine just have a very fragile ego, simple as
hidden torrent
yes I'd stick my dick in a scab gunner
I wish I was a scab gunner
pseudo pecan
If you want to be a space marine just have a very fragile ego, simple as
cool opinion!
RADICAL
hidden torrent
Is that your space marine roleplay
pseudo pecan
actually meant space marine as in doom
I don't RP 40k
I just got into it
through this game
hidden torrent
It's kinda the general theme anymore that super humans act like man children
pseudo pecan
yeah. I don't agree with the space marine mindset in this game too imperialistic basically storm troopers
hidden torrent
Lore is just fluf the sell models anyway, so it's basically a who's the strongest superhero kinda thing
pseudo pecan
yeah that's lame.
hidden torrent
But if you want to kill things fast as vet you have a few options in melee
Some require builds to make it more so viable, like the Rashad Mk2
Power sword is pretty much never a bad choice
pseudo pecan
I'll have to try it out then. thank you.
hidden torrent
Most people use Mk6 I hear it's harder to use but better overall
marble mantle
Lore is just fluf the sell models anyway, so it's basically a who's the stronges...
Easy answer! Ogryn strongest!
wicked epoch
big man mind giving me a hug?
marble mantle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044820280478011485/1270148983339225201/I...
WHAT IS LORE? I ONLY KNOW DAKKA DAKKA AND HURTING BAD GUYS
somber axle
It's fun stuff but mostly in books!
like one time two clowns broke into the Imperial Palace and every Custodes opened fire on them immediately and they still managed to get into the throne room through the power of clownery
last parcel
whats a books
last parcel
I wish I was a scab gunner
praxis 9 alpha lookin ass
marble mantle
whats a books
Ooooh big book I pick up in mission! One smell funny, other make Hug feel icky!
wicked epoch
https://tenor.com/view/seal-hug-cute-love-hug-tight-gif-16412489
Thank you big man!
hidden torrent
praxis 9 alpha lookin ass
Type shit
marble mantle
Thank you big man!
Yesss!
pseudo pecan
is wrath good on the power sword? I just rolled it
last parcel
is wrath good on the power sword? I just rolled it
imagine wanting an orange so you hope for a fresh one that gushes with juice when bite into the slice, but then all you can get is la croix
it’s like that
tribal pelican
what granade are yall bringing into auric damnation non of them feel very useful
pseudo pecan
imagine wanting an orange so you hope for a fresh one that gushes with juice whe...
ucky
gilded wraith
Flak and maniac?
tribal pelican
my kit otherwise is mhe for crushers so iv been bringing krak but in auric when one crusher spawns 17 more spawn
crimson pebble
what granade are yall bringing into auric damnation non of them feel very useful
Shredder
gilded wraith
Honestly, all 3 grenades can have a spot. Just depends on what your build is lacking.
midnight totem
I pack 2 krak grenades, so I can quickly sprint to people who get downed because I didn't pack a third
tribal pelican
Honestly, all 3 grenades can have a spot. Just depends on what your build is la...
Assuming im unwilling to get rid of weapon specialist and VoC becuse they feel good to me and i like them how can i refine this further I'm runniing reconlaz and chainsword
last parcel
i put all of them in a jar and draw straws to choose
tribal pelican
*did not mean for that to be a respons
just a generl question lol looking for opinions
midnight totem
Assuming im unwilling to get rid of weapon specialist and VoC becuse they feel g...
Let's be honest, automatic reload with weapon specialist does very little comparatively for a recon las
I see you picked another source of grenade regen but no iron will?
tribal pelican
Let's be honest, automatic reload with weapon specialist does very little compar...
does it? i find it allowes for perpetual upkeep on the melee buff when mincing hordes but i suppose there are better options if i dropped autoreload what would you suggest
midnight totem
I'm not saying iron will is a must pick but it's pretty strong universally
tribal pelican
I see you picked another source of grenade regen but no iron will?
Im considering swapping that out is iorn will really make that much of a diffrence
Ill give it a shot its a hard thing to test though
tribal pelican
I'm not saying iron will is a must pick but it's pretty strong universally
what would ylou take in place fo always prepaired?
midnight totem
I like melee, probably wouldn't have taken survivalist at all in favor of getting the 10 percent melee damage node, but
tribal pelican
I really want on your toes but dont think im willing to compromise on anything to get it
tribal pelican
I like melee, probably wouldn't have taken survivalist at all in favor of gettin...
I find that melee is a tool for horde mincing and am doing that absulutly fine with the chainsword without it dont think it would get me any break points
midnight totem
If I were to slightly modify your build
I'd really just move always prepared to iron will
Your survivability will greatly increase because iron will is good, and it's absolutely nuts with voice of command
I like improved shredder frags, but you have enough regular frags with this setup to toss one in practically every engagement at whatever you want
And that sort of crowd control is always useful
Gunner pack? Grenade. Shooters? Grenade. The zealot's mom? Grenade.
tribal pelican
I am skepticle of of wther supiriority complex is a wise use of a point
midnight totem
It's a big damage bonus
arctic rampart
iron will is so strong you pretty much always have to have it IMO
tribal pelican
but only for crushers bulwarks and gunners right?
crimson pebble
Also deadshot would be nice if youre running infernus on recon
tribal pelican
hmm google has lied to me in that case its a must take
tribal pelican
I am definatly open to switching that one out already traided always ready for iorn will
midnight totem
... well no either, might change ge it for deadshot
tribal pelican
also knwo my spellings bad elgelsh is not my first language
midnight totem
So you can force crits and shock trooper procs for your recon lasgun
tribal pelican
Im running dumdum and and head hunter on my laz fyi not infernus
midnight totem
Fair enough
arctic rampart
Always prepared (the one after weap spec) is a nice-to-have but I'd drop it for other points. Shock trooper is pretty useless because recon lasguns are second tier versions of IAG. But assuming you want the recon gun for funz, stop using it on horde and you can probably save the point there too.
E.g. if you save those 2 points, you can get +25 toughness and "bring it down" (ogryn/monstro damage) or "Rending Strikes" both of which are quite good. Even "competitive urge" is probably better than "Always prepared". Depending on build deadshot might be really important or useless.. duck and dive on a melee vet might be great fun in some loadouts too. Lots of options
tribal pelican
testing in meat grinder rn and deadshot is only giveing about a 5% DPS increase on lasgun
arctic rampart
I actually haven't testd recon lasgun that much recently .. in the past shock trooper proc rate was nerfed and it was really bad. Not sure about it recently
tribal pelican
*err more like 7%
not great and thats only for 1 mauler in real play there would be 7 more
arctic rampart
I usually like plasma, it's just the most fun for me. deadshot is useless for me!
idle swallow
Deadshot isn't really that worth it on the recon lasguns because you burn through your stamina so fast with them
pseudo pecan
I'm gonna try out the infiltrate build, I'm mainly wanting to use it for obj and revives more like a team player build
arctic rampart
is it good on bolt pistol? Seems like zerona lovers are quite fond of it
tribal pelican
E.g. if you save those 2 points, you can get +25 toughness and "bring it down" (...
what exactly IS rending
idle swallow
Any slower rpm single shot ranged weapon benefits more on deadshot so helbores, MkXII infantry, boltgun/bolt pistol, etc
midnight totem
what exactly IS rending
Arnor pierce
idle swallow
tribal pelican
thanku
arctic rampart
So, onslaught is better on fast guns. rending is better on slower guns. Generally speaking. Onslaught (brittle from right tree) applies pen for everyone not just you. But it takes time to stack. Rending is instant and good for slower guns or melee weapons
tribal pelican
rending is showing huge improvments on most enemes in the grinder for las gun averaging like 8ish% which lines up with expectations
woven olive
i run both on columbus...god its shreads crushers
arctic rampart
Onslaught is 2.% up to 16 times, for 5s. (If you stop hitting for 5s you loose stacks). A fast lasgun is a perfect gun for that. Rending is a flat 10%. Why not both? Maybe you're greedy in your build or you use a monster weapon like plasma and don't need either
tribal pelican
i feel like im going to feel loosing shock trooper though...
arctic rampart
Do you have a lot ammo pressure now?
Survivalist can offset it, since it applies to your whole team except for idiot knife zealots (the bad ones, not the good ones) -- even the nerfed proc is still worth.
tribal pelican
Do you have a lot ammo pressure now?
depedns on team I feel like half of my auric matches are with nothing but other vets and gunluging ogryn and ammo is a hot comodity
arctic rampart
That's about right, unless you get lucky with ammo crates. But have you actually run out?
Maybe there's a better version of scoreboard but when I tested shock trooper in pskarium probably a half a year or year ago it was trash proc rate and really underwhelming..
Scoreboard I have doesnt trac the procs but you can see it in pskarium just shooting at the heads nonstop
tribal pelican
That's about right, unless you get lucky with ammo crates. But have you actuall...
thats valid like rarely but if you asked me how often I didnt use my las when i wanted to becuse I was running low id say alsmost every other match and if there is a stubber ogryn on the team then i run out 80% of the time
arctic rampart
When you get the ammo heavy teams its time to whip out the power sword more
or knife, or axe, or chain sword, or w/e
woven olive
or a tac axe if you build em right
tribal pelican
yhea chain sowrd for me im not playing a 40k game to NOT hit things with a chainsaw. something I will never be willing to compromise on nomatter the meta
arctic rampart
I basically never use my gun on hordes. Unless they're lined up in a huge hallway. Infinite cleave cheat gun go
last parcel
Maybe there's a better version of scoreboard but when I tested shock trooper in ...
half a year ago shocktrooper only activated on the first crit in a string
now it's the whole string so it's pretty much twice as good now compared to before
arctic rampart
I could see how using that cool sounding recon lasgun mowing em down might be too fun to resist. but for real I bet the proc rate on shock trooper is still ass
Oh, they did change it. Aight. /eatwords
tribal pelican
I could see how using that cool sounding recon lasgun mowing em down might be to...
it procs 100% of crits right what do you mean by proc rate?
woven olive
wait wait wait i can crit more then once with it now? woooooooo i dont need surgical for my revolver buildes now lol
arctic rampart
I did say "last time I tested (shock trooper) 6m-1y ago" earlier 
Meh, if you avoid using it on hordes it should be fine on ammo without it anyway. It was fine even before the buffs when bullets were weaker...
woven olive
if this is true then my style of only swapping to revolver to kill big threats is viable now
arctic rampart
Shock trooper is for lasguns only
Unless by revolver you mean the laspistol which I do like
last parcel
if this is true then my style of only swapping to revolver to kill big threats i...
that's always been viable and i have no idea what your previous statement meant
woven olive
oof i i thought we were talking about that crit on swap thing im too dumb for anything these days
last parcel
oof i i thought we were talking about that crit on swap thing im too dumb for an...
no biggie, there's a lot of talent names
arctic rampart
I Knew it! Every zerona user is a gun head
last parcel
weapon specialist revolver is a lot more than just viable though
woven olive
wish got more then one crit on swap it really dont last long either
woven olive
weapon specialist revolver is a lot more than just viable though
yeah but its more a agrapina keystone imo
tribal pelican
Okay results are in on my very unscientific test and its kinda damning for shocktrooper with my lasgun with head hunter after chest fiering and killing 7 crushers without shocktrooper it had 680 left, with chcock trooper and after 7 ogryns it had only 760 shots left
not that great of a saving
dim niche
why cant i share any images
woven olive
have you tried hitting that + and searching for the image?
last parcel
why cant i share any images
you need to talk enough so your name turns red
arctic rampart
whenever I use zerona I get reload on the brain probably user error
tribal pelican
what curios are people runnin
austere mica
Generally 2 toughness 1 hp
idle swallow
3 wounds 💪
austere mica
Also 1 toughness 1 hp 1 stamina
woven olive
any that help with damage res to fire wounds toughness and dockets time to time
austere mica
Isn’t damage res to flamers and bombers still bugged
tribal pelican
3 wounds 💪
"its not planning for failure if the plan is failure capt."
woven olive
might be but it still good to keep in case of fix or when you need a placebo
austere mica
I generally run base stats and stamina regen, or whatever stat the curio is (toughness or hp) and gunner resist+Stam regen
woven olive
no one ever for gets gunner res
austere mica
You’d be surprised
woven olive
sorry i meant people arent noobs or straight forgetful
austere mica
you’d be surprised
woven olive
sounds like stealth and tankgryns
idle swallow
vet is probably the only one I don't usually take gunner res tbh because I'm focused on taking out shooters first with most of my setups
also iron will+close order drill op
woven olive
i take gunner res because i always get a team of morons who run ahead agro gunners and i have to counter them not hard with plasma but for some other guns it can be just little finicky with the alll the shots coming my way even when sliding and dodging around
its good to have it on at least one curio'
fiery wave
Being fast isn’t a bad thing
arctic rampart
2 gun resist curios or what are you all rocking lately
fiery wave
30% ordo dockies 2 of each stamina management
arctic rampart
ordos ? stamina regen && 3 stamina if deadshot
midnight totem
I wish i had shotgunner or rager resist
mighty anvil
is this good
mighty anvil
kk
crimson pebble
What id go for personally
hidden torrent
weapon specialist revolver is a lot more than just viable though
Zarona envy
mighty anvil
Are Mystery Acquisitions good
safe osprey
nope
crimson pebble
Are Mystery Acquisitions good
Not at all unless youre just rlly needing a curio
marble mantle
What id go for personally
Is too small! Need something bigger!
last parcel
Zarona envy
envy my 3mm microcock
marble mantle
envy my 3mm microcock
NO!
crimson pebble
Is too small! Need something bigger!
Behold
crimson pebble
Not like ogryn will be dodging a lot anyway
thick wolf
Also not a fan of that mk to begin w tbh
I'm still wondering what were the differences between mk3 and mk7 sapper
crimson pebble
Unironicly is better then my 380 shovel
last parcel
I'm still wondering what were the differences between mk3 and mk7 sapper
moveset. VII has horizontal heavies that are good for horde clear while still having an overhead folded attack
midnight totem
Are Mystery Acquisitions good
they're good for trinkets
I got some of my high level trinkets that way
crimson pebble
what does defenses 35% do
Not a lot i assume not able to look in depth rn tho but its dump stat regardless
wicked epoch
whats the better one
crimson pebble
Left
wicked epoch
aigh
arctic rampart
Hmm (https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/latrine-shovel/brute-brainer-mk-xix-latrine-shovel) ```
Defences
Affects Stamina efficiency, as well as the length and speed of dashes.
Sprint Cost: [1.75 - 1.25]
Push Cost: [2.25 - 0.75]
Dodge Distance: [0.88 - 0.92]
Dodge Limit: [3 - 4]
The stability is wack but it is what it is
arctic rampart
You'd be losing a dodge at 35% for sure. Sounds like a long-term bust for me
thick wolf
Not that you need stability for it unless you want to ADS the thing
crimson pebble
Hmm (https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/latrine-shovel/brute-brainer-mk-x...
Like i said ogryns not got great dodge to begin w
arctic rampart
I don't really play ogryns or shovels so I shouldn't comment. If you like it go for it!
fiery wave
Dodge linger fucks ogryn
crimson pebble
It got me orthus hard mode so i reckon it works
mighty anvil
whats the better one
is this the pistol Space Marines use
wicked epoch
No
hard cave
I don't think there's any weapons in this game that space marines use, since all their guns are bigger
Pretty sure the bolter that we get is used by the sisters of battle
tame lodge
Pocket sized thunder hammer
midnight totem
our thunder hammer is the kinda space marines use to threaten their machine spirits into working
Tech Marine getting the hammer of percussive maintenance to make sure a few nails are all the way in
tall torrent
Pretty sure the bolter that we get is used by the sisters of battle
Locke pattern Boltgun is used by arbites
last parcel
arbideez nuts
marble mantle
I don't think there's any weapons in this game that space marines use, since all...
Ogryn should get space marine weapon!
Hug want BIG gun!
hard cave
Also remove toughness regen speed it’s irrelevant
wha
why is toughness regen speed irrelevant
fiery wave
It’s not toughness regen
It’s the delay
Which is irrelevant
Compared to stamina management or something useful
Especially on vet
tall torrent
why is toughness regen speed irrelevant
it's coherency regen only
ur better off with gunner resist/stamina regen/sprint efficiency/extra dockets most of the time
radiant chasm
I could see how using that cool sounding recon lasgun mowing em down might be to...
headhunter blessing helps a ton
add in other crit chance increases as well it is a ton, and headhunter blessing works well with crit chains (ie shots after the 1st crit will count up headhunter, giving you more overall crit chance
thorn lark
what the actual fuck?
last parcel
what the actual fuck?
yes fatshark is literally worse then 10 hitlers and i will personally firebomb sweden until it nought but ash
lucid hinge
Did I somehow end up in Europe 1700
umbral scaffold
I guess I'm not in the official server
last parcel
im too broke for emoji imma borrow some
you need a groomer to gift you nitro
frank basin
frank basin
you need a groomer to gift you nitro
you means those simp?
one of waller spender to simp on egirl
hard cave
tame lodge
you need a groomer to gift you nitro
My barber not beating the grooming allegations
last parcel
tall torrent
what the actual fuck?
I mean, the whining is very real in general chat lol
thorn lark
i forgot general chat is a thing
maybe they're talking about us, the class chat users
pseudo portal
Howdy fellas. What is the difference between the two power swords?
thorn lark
moveset
last parcel
Howdy fellas. What is the difference between the two power swords?
moveset
3 has horizontal heavies, 6 has horizontal lights
6 has a stabby push attack
serene bough
mk6 > mk3
wicked epoch
i like the 3
last parcel
and im too lazy to describe the movemetn and block cancel thing
wicked epoch
Big swoosh
last parcel
i like the 3
opinion detected
face the wall
pseudo portal
So 3 is the cleave through hordes. 6 is the single target boop?
wicked epoch
yeah
serene bough
this isnt zealot chat dont worry youre safe
wicked epoch
but the 6 is still good for hordes
last parcel
So 3 is the cleave through hordes. 6 is the single target boop?
powered lights on the 6 still cleaves hordes
wicked epoch
Its really just preference
last parcel
wheres my ogryn bodyguard
too far and too slow
wicked epoch
Same as the chainswords
serene bough
So 3 is the cleave through hordes. 6 is the single target boop?
6 has good single target push atk combo, mk3 does heavys for horde clear while mk6 does light atks, and its effectively the same damage
tall torrent
So 3 is the cleave through hordes. 6 is the single target boop?
no, 6 just does things better
wicked epoch
too far and too slow
you’ll never guess that i have my trusty
Accatran MkVId Recon Lasgun
with infernus and headhunter
begone demon
tall torrent
last parcel
So 3 is the cleave through hordes. 6 is the single target boop?
it’s more like one sucks your dick and the other sucks your dick but also fingers your asshole
last parcel
begone demon
oh noooo i have to watch you reload ahhhhh
serene bough
as always, a tasteful description
wicked epoch
hold on let me pop a speed stim
last parcel
looks like someone’s stuck in the reload
last parcel
how the turn tables
giving me that voc tuah
last parcel
i can get 175 focused las beams to sound like a partridge in a pear tree
HNNNNNNNG
ok maybe not
radiant chasm
calvacade or powder burner?
Blaze away
Or wait till it gets buffs
No reason to use it over a recon or iag tbh
crude fiber
im assuming you mean calvacade cause blaze away isnt on shredder
radiant chasm
Blaze away is only t3
crude fiber
ah
last parcel
i take it with shredder frags and a melee with shred to become the bane of cheeses
radiant chasm
im assuming you mean calvacade cause blaze away isnt on shredder
Yes it is
BA is better than both powderburn and cavalcade, unless you avoid magdumping at all due to playstyle, then powderburn might be a better pick
grand perch
played a mealstrom. lost a 5-wound vet that ragequit early, but gained a Dickot bot that stayed to the end
i think thats an upgrade
radiant chasm
Wdym good
You’d get more out of blaze away than cavalcade
40% power vs 25% crit chance on a low finesse weapon?
thorn lark
sap crit string is 2
radiant chasm
Even a crit string of 2
It’s finesse is like.. 1.3 at most? If not less
I forgot how to calculate for weapons without a finesse scaling
25% chance to do 30% more damage for 2 shots vs 40% damage and cleave
plain escarp
Melk is teasing me, not worth getting right? Stats are too bad. Might be worth grabbing infernus tho
rigid pilot
Technically they have more rending too but 
tall torrent
Melk is teasing me, not worth getting right? Stats are too bad. Might be worth g...
if ur gonna harvest blessing, get headhunter
infernus not good on infantry lasguns
plain escarp
I thought it was one of the best blessings
crude fiber
just had 2 great games with the shredder, definitely gotta put some effort in while playing with it but still fun
mighty anvil
Does Lethal Proximity instakill trashmobs?
rigid pilot
It has nothing to do with damage
The bistol explosion does stagger and next to no damage
tribal pelican
I thought it was one of the best blessings
infernus to my knowledge has no practical effect on TTK for most enemies but i am not a expert just what I have herd on the grape vine
speaking of the grape vine, after being convinced by folks here to drop shock trooper and running a few auric damns to test i can say that I absolutely did not notice a diffrents and shock trooper might be a lemon
mighty anvil
I read somewhere that the special attack of combat axes stagger ragers?
crude fiber
id say it its mostly for recons, all the other lasguns are pretty ammo efficient
rigid pilot
On the 6d?
tame lodge
I read somewhere that the special attack of combat axes stagger ragers?
so does the push attack
And from what I've seen, even the tac axe PA
woven olive
infernus is great for when you want a MG IV to have all around higher damage on non carapace so can grab 25% carapace and 10% to elite so you can get some good spam fire brittleness going
not bad not great but can be fairly helpful
crude fiber
infernous as well is almost exclusively ok on the 6d recon, every other lasguns is better off with something else imo
rigid pilot
iLas can take DA and HH
odd oak
And from what I've seen, even the tac axe PA
Tac axe push even stuns charging mutants. One of my favorite things to do with them.
rigid pilot
DA gives you oneshot on dreg ragers iirc
grand perch
Tac axe push even stuns charging mutants. One of my favorite things to do with t...
so does their special and its faster plus costs no stamina
(if you hit their head)
odd oak
Love doing that. Also breaks their grapple if they grabbed someone.
crude fiber
i always try doing that with the shovel but never land the headshot
mid grapple anyway
odd oak
Their heads do be bouncing.
uncut pebble
Tac axe push even stuns charging mutants. One of my favorite things to do with t...
I saw that happen in a video posted here once. Several mutants back to back and the guy that was playing was just like "nope, nuh uh, not happening" poking them in the face with the special.
tame lodge
ABC-1-2-3 engaged
warm swallow
The fits
misty lintel
Hey guys! Still pretty new to Darktide (level 23, but according to the count I’ve only successfully completed 20 missions). Just wanted to get some insight on the best way to set up the skill tree
mighty anvil
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds I go here to find builds and then ask people in the discord questions about specifics.
misty lintel
Noted, brb
misty lintel
Okay so I found an invincible vet build which I really like, it uses 3 Transcendent Blessed Bullets, but the weapon is a Catachan MK 3 Blade and a Zarona IIa Quickdraw Stub Revolver. I prefer fully automatic weapons and blades with a little more reach like the Power or Chainswords. Would that be viable in a build like that?
It says it’s a good all rounder but I feel like it would be lacking in the Crowd Control department
mighty anvil
Im new myself
quiet valley
post the build
mighty anvil
^
quiet valley
I have a lot of hrs on vet I can take a gander at it
mighty anvil
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bcd44a6-6a8c-48b6-b439-7dde7d9c3e6b/varangian-veteran-shredder-frag-grenade-voice-of-command-weapon-specialist-auric-ready Whaddya thionk about this?
I just got an axe with bromentum and im head over heels
quiet valley
Are you deadset on the Boltpistol?
Its viable but its not the greatest weapon rn
If you are deadset on the boltpistol it will work fine with the build, although I would take different blessings for weapon spec
Personally I would go Maniac, Unyielding, Deadly Accurate, Lethal Proximity/ or Surgical
Drop one of the toughness curios for a +3 stamina and change On Your Toes to Determined for suppression immunity
mighty anvil
ty
slow sky
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bcd44a6-6a8c-48b6-b439-7dde7d9c3e6b/va...
dude its so refreshing seeing a build on gameslantern thats actually pretty damn good
lusty sapphire
It's very good, except for lethal proximity which is close to useless
misty lintel
post the build
My bad for the delay, ran a couple missions, even tried a little Damnation
mighty anvil
Im in love with this melee focused build, it rewards good aim ironically
misty lintel
So I have to have good aim to make this class work out?
mighty anvil
Depends on your build
misty lintel
Got a Power Sword and Braced Autogun, my Curios are Gilded Fragment (+13% health), Scrap of Scripture (+1 wound and +6% ordo dockets) and Wayfarer’s Seal (+14% toughness, +5% health and toughness, and +10% resistance to bombers)
austere mica
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58b877-f385-40dd-a4cc-d8198b4a6688/in...
For this swap Exploit weakness for the +25 toughness node, and swap surprise attack for low profile
misty lintel
Alright, I’ll put that up there when I get my next level
mighty anvil
Feel like i'm playing DOOM lol
umbral scaffold
Low profile, ewwwwwwwwww
Me exiting my infiltrate in the middle of the crusher crowd to get better headshots
misty lintel
See, watching stuff like this makes me feel like I’m playing this game wrong 😅
I cannot get down like that (though I wish to)
warm swallow
Vet chat which fit looks the best
misty lintel
First one for sure
austere mica
Wearing a carapace helmet only for something to slide off your chin and hit you in the neck
I hate that most armors don’t fit with that helmet despite not owning it
warm swallow
Wearing a carapace helmet only for something to slide off your chin and hit you ...
Its my crit spot
misty lintel
Everybody’s gotta have one ya know
warm swallow
Gotta make it fair with how much dmg i do on crits
misty lintel
I’m afraid to ask but I must know
pine snow
Back after a real long break, anything major changed? i heard they were gonna make crafting not an absolute pain
also is the plasma gun still just broken
warm swallow
How long was the break
austere mica
also is the plasma gun still just broken
Plasma is still insane, yes
warm swallow
Idk what last major update had but we are finally gonna get a crafting rework (next week)
muted knot
Idk what last major update had but we are finally gonna get a crafting rework (n...
Who Said next week ?
austere mica
warm swallow
Thanks malk
muted knot
Maybe dont Put it Like that then
woeful ibex
when will swedish mandatory summer break ends?
pseudo fiber
Last week
woeful ibex
oh
pseudo fiber
So they said there should be a hotfix this week.
brave cliff
Is there an official date yet?
rigid pilot
no
woeful ibex
None
pseudo fiber
Interesting phrasing though
rigid pilot
umbral scaffold
lusty sapphire
Got a Power Sword and Braced Autogun, my Curios are Gilded Fragment (+13% health...
We don't use names for curios cause they're useless btw. We go by toughness, stam, health. Mire efficienct
quiet valley
It's very good, except for lethal proximity which is close to useless
Lethal Prox can stun GROUPS of ragers and pretty much gives you on demand stagger to trigger weapons spec
lusty sapphire
Or you could kill whatever is infront of you with extra crit hs dmg or even better have always on demand crit with surg
He already has voice of command
quiet valley
Or you could kill whatever is infront of you with extra crit hs dmg or even bett...
VoC has cooldown, you should go Lethal Prox, Deadly Accurate anyway with weapon spec feeding crit
Puncture is pretty meh, and Surgical is overkill for crit
lusty sapphire
VoC has cooldown, you should go Lethal Prox, Deadly Accurate anyway with weapon ...
I can see it working just not my personal preference
frank basin
it is possible to find very first message at beginning of vet chat?
or that just making like sisyphus.
viscid sparrow
btw, is Wrath/Rampage still a good blessing combo for 13g Chainsword, or is some other blessing combination better now that the weapon has a light -> heavy loop available?
pseudo fiber
btw, is Wrath/Rampage still a good blessing combo for 13g Chainsword, or is some...
Wrath rampage is generally the choice for 13g
idle swallow
Bolt pistol is ok, still outclassed by revolver for most use cases
pseudo fiber
They're both okay
idle swallow
Bolter is a lot of fun with exe stance takedowns but still has the same usual drawbacks holding it down
pine snow
If i were to make a build for it what perks are good on it?
its been so long since i last played i kinda forgot whats good and whats not
pseudo fiber
For the bolter?
pseudo fiber
Clavicle pinning fire is usually used on mag dump builds
lusty sapphire
btw, is Wrath/Rampage still a good blessing combo for 13g Chainsword, or is some...
It's still good but i'd say it's better with rampage/shred
idle swallow
Pinning fire is the big one you want on bolter, the other blessing is personal preference but I usually like gloryhunter. Cavalcade and surgical are fine also
lusty sapphire
Crit build with pinning fire and exe stance gives you oneshots on body for most human sized targets in game btw
I like it very much
Also, flak maniac never goes wrong
idle swallow
Yea bolter is fun, I usually run DClaw with it since all my armor kill is already covered and I just like to use the swords when I have the opportunity
lusty sapphire
Yea bolter is fun, I usually run DClaw with it since all my armor kill is alread...
DC is honestly so strong with the parry lol
Borderline cheating
pseudo fiber
I use unyielding infested on my bolter it does fine
idle swallow
It's really good if you channel parry god energy
lusty sapphire
I use unyielding infested on my bolter it does fine
Infested is really not needed
pseudo fiber
Well I can't change it till September lmfao
lusty sapphire
Kek
idle swallow
Unyielding on bolter is never a bad idea
Numbers cat suggests flak in the guide so it probably hits a one shot breakpoint on gunners or something
lusty sapphire
Numbers cat suggests flak in the guide so it probably hits a one shot breakpoint...
Yes, on scab stuff specifically and a 2 shot on maulers probably?
thick wolf
I am finally free, I'm no longer forced to use this trite of a keystone
rigid hearth
is bolt pistol use as a CC weapon with leathal proximity?
plain escarp
Good?
pseudo fiber
is bolt pistol use as a CC weapon with leathal proximity?
Yes
pastel yew
is bolt pistol use as a CC weapon with leathal proximity?
you can though I think thats not really a good way to use it
deadshot+surgical+deadly accurate
far better
idle pecan
is this good
pseudo fiber
I mean you could do terrifying > dum dum groaners > flak and live happy till rework
sour elbow
I am finally free, I'm no longer forced to use this trite of a keystone
man I wish you didn't lose stacks if you move while ADS.
idle pecan
Good?
could swap carapace for flak/maniac and terrifying barrage for dumdum
is my combat blade fine?
severe gale
I am finally free, I'm no longer forced to use this trite of a keystone
what'd u do it with
pseudo fiber
Seems alright you probably want uncanny