veteran-class

[lyric dock]

Can be salvaged

[pastel yew]

I'd drop raking fire for dum dum

[lyric dock]

Replace Raking for DumDum

[pastel yew]

swap ranged damage vs specials to like... I'm not sure

[somber axle]

Flak probably

[pastel yew]

I'd say maniac because that shit sucks

[lyric dock]

Probably Maniacs or Flak

[pastel yew]

but flak is likely the best option overalll

[somber axle]

you will be in pain if you have to shoot Mauler bodies otherwise

[pastel yew]

laspistol already gets a bonus vs flak

[coarse wolf]

i hate maulers already

[pastel yew]

its just extra nice

[somber axle]

double down on Mauler hate

[pastel yew]

shooting ragers with the laspistol is pretty rough without maniac

[somber axle]

burn them

[lyric dock]

Infernus is pretty solid as a blessing because the DOT can finish off weaken specialists and elites if they just get out of sight

[somber axle]

yeah Infernus is ok

[coarse wolf]

only tier 4 blessing i have rn is ghost

[lyric dock]

It's not the worst blessing to have to be locked in

Compare to other options you could have gotten

[coarse wolf]

i have dumdum 1

[somber axle]

swap Raking Fire to Ghost until you get Dum Dum imo

Dum Dum 1 isn't worth

Dum Dum 3 at least if not 4

[lyric dock]

And keep rolling the other pistols until get Dum 3 or Dum 4

[pastel yew]

12 burn stacks on bosses is also

very reliable damage

its not fast

but its ammo efficient

[lyric dock]

Yeah

[pastel yew]

also burning shit is funny

[coarse wolf]

and now i just need dumdum it seems

[somber axle]

it'll still work pretty good imo as is

[lyric dock]

The number of times I killed a sniper because of the burn proc

[somber axle]

Ghost is good to have

Dum Dum will just be a big jump in your damage

[pastel yew]

ghost is dope if you're aggressive

dum dum did also just get sorta buffed

[coarse wolf]

yeah i uh

[pastel yew]

since close damage is now 12m

[coarse wolf]

refuse to not back up

[somber axle]

it is 4:30 am and the double negative isn't working in my clown brain

[coarse wolf]

unless im about to die or someone else is about to die, because usually it's a random and i have to go save them

[somber axle]

that is a sign I should sleep

[pastel yew]

ghost lets you ignore the shit muncher gunners tho

[coarse wolf]

yeahhh

i have work in 12 hours

and im still awake at 4:30

[somber axle]

I'm off Monday/Tuesday so it's ok

I'm just doing dumb things with my sleep schedule just because it's an extra long weekend for me

[coarse wolf]

holy shit i just bought 10 and they ALL rolled ghost or between the eyes

[lyric dock]

#HadronThings

[coarse wolf]

now i go buy a shovel

not wasting more plasteel until that's squared away

[wise jackal]

Does anyone still have that veteran gaming gif

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-darktide-40k-warhammer-warhammer-darktide-gif-8052621726047573409

I have this

[fleet thicket]

okay then

i guess i definetly

need to give up my

stamina regen

for elite damage...

and i hate it

why is it on the otherside of the tree fatshark

[coarse wolf]

so which shovel is considered the better one

[fleet thicket]

true peference

but path really really hates mark 3

XD

[umbral garnet]

Mk3 Sapper my beloved.

[fleet thicket]

mark 3 also imo

got a weird build

you want thrust and decimator on it

the other two can go uncanncy

and thrust

[coarse wolf]

brunt be selling this rn

[umbral garnet]

I just really dislike the other sapper's sideways angle for the stab strike.

[fleet thicket]

or decimator

[fleet thicket]

that one

you arent meant to spam it

like the mark 3

[umbral garnet]

I use Thrust and skullcrusher on it.

[fleet thicket]

you actually meant to push attack light light more often than using the stab

[umbral garnet]

I don't use stabs in hordes at all.

Except when ragers show up.

[fleet thicket]

i mean

[umbral garnet]

Otherwise, I exclusively one shot crushers and maulers with my little tin can opener.

[fleet thicket]

no one does

but the stab on mark 3 is really safe

[coarse wolf]

:p

[fleet thicket]

dog shit

[coarse wolf]

game hates me

[fleet thicket]

look at that first target!

[umbral garnet]

Damn.

[coarse wolf]

it gave me one with 64% damage

80 everywhere else

better

[umbral garnet]

Excellent, even.

[coarse wolf]

now

do i shoot hadron

something feels wrong

[umbral garnet]

That crit dmg node feels a bit pointless.

[coarse wolf]

yeah

i feel like take a swing is bleh, block efficiency is a waste too

it'll be useable, just not perfect

[umbral garnet]

Block efficiency I can forgive, take a swing you can probably change for thrust if you want those crusher one-shots and crit dmg likely for +carapace

[fleet thicket]

just wait for crating

rework

[coarse wolf]

thrust than change crit damage with carapace or flak?

[umbral garnet]

Yes

[coarse wolf]

preference, got it

well that was a million dockets and 8 thousand plasteel

[unreal bone]

Bruh I just checked out this weeks shop rotation

Are the Darktide devs that short on ideas that they recycled the ENTIRE cadian shocktrooper pages from a couple months ago?

[coarse wolf]

turns out

ghost is inconsistent

[tame lodge]

More like, on vacation

[fleet thicket]

@tall torrent hey btw i think for kantrael shotgun

deathspitter is better than full bore right?

[coarse wolf]

even with a build that isn't ass i hate playing vet

with every fiber of my being

he gets everything stripped from him and ignored forever

[fleet thicket]

i think

vet got the most diverse build choices

in the game

[slow spade]

Then stop using the Stripped Down blessing silly UwU

[dreamy spade]

The annoying part is why didnt they use stuff from earlier so people can actually get it

[trim nova]

is rampage or wrath better for poewer swords?

[pseudo fiber]

With power cycler?

[trim nova]

mhm

[pseudo fiber]

Well brutal momentum is the usual pick

[trim nova]

Ah ok

[hard cave]

changed rampage to power cycler one w brutal momentum 4

and holy shit its so much better

[trim nova]

just realized changing perks two times locks you out of reblessing

guess I'll have to wait for itemization

[hard cave]

agony,,,by accumulation

[tame lodge]

Reminder that Rampage is power

[trim nova]

I have these two now

[tame lodge]

Welp, the first one has low damage and finesse

You could take PC from it

[hard cave]

how the fuck did u get pc 4 twice

[lyric dock]

We know where all the PC 4s go

[tall torrent]

Wouldn’t take either tbh

[hearty panther]

idk id rather take boring than be spit on

[last parcel]

nah i’d pay extra for the spitting

[hard cave]

so true

[last parcel]

i dont even remember saying that

[pseudo fiber]

The voices

[tame lodge]

All of this is funny when you remember the pinned message on Zealot's chat

[trim nova]

idk

[trim nova]

alright will do. thanks

[celest cove]

Any good way to make the Hellbore effective?

What is cleave by the way?

[tame lodge]

The amount of mass you can attack through

[celest cove]

Why is this bad?

[celest cove]

Ah, thanks. So pointless on a power sword then.

[coarse wolf]

First target. Reduces the damage on it's overhead attack quite a bit

[tame lodge]

Depends on the blessing

And the sword

[radiant chasm]

or they could just be rerunning it for the people that missed it xd

[tame lodge]

And at the moment the only two blessings related to mass that matters on the psword is Brutal Momentum and Sunder

Mk3 - Sunder
Mk6 - Brutal Momentum

[trim nova]

what should I bind my special attack to

I can't quite seem to find a good key to bind it to

[torpid grotto]

I use a side mouse button

Feels good

[trim nova]

I don't have one

[tame lodge]

Mouse 3

Or tab

And then you move the tactical display to the key under Esc

[idle swallow]

No side mouse buttons? In this economy?

[tame lodge]

Or bind the special to X or Z

If you have a pinky finger

[severe gale]

tilde

[tame lodge]

I would not have guessed it

💀

[hard cave]

I bind mine to v

[idle pecan]

I bind my alt fire to alt

[trim nova]

I accidentally press the windows button sometimes when I did that

but that seems to have worked best

[celest cove]

I use v

[astral ingot]

m4

[sturdy schooner]

heya chat, I moved on from powersword IV to the rashad axe and its versatility is pretty nice, are there any other weapons yall recommend for a fun playstyle

[pseudo fiber]

You tried the shock mauls?

[sturdy schooner]

I haven't, I just started playing again since the update

How are they?

I heard the doom shotgun is underwhelming (sadly) but the shock mauls are decent

[pseudo fiber]

The shock mauls are good very versitile.
The bolt pistol was assumed bad but people have warmed up to it
The shotgun is okay but very fun especially with a weapon specialist build on vet.

The pickaxes are very, very good too

[sturdy schooner]

oh yeah ive seen goofy ogryn gameplay with pickaxes

feel like most of ogryn's arsenal is fun and good

pros cons of mauls comapred to rashad?

[pseudo fiber]

Well it's limited so it should be (ignore the power maul ignore that!)

Pros: Can stun things with alt fire, unique blessings, plays a little like an axe but without needing brutal momentum (though it doesn't have it anyway so)
Cons: Poor boss damage, might be on par with an axe but probably a little worse the rashad is so good lol

Lightning reflexes/entropic (Not exactly sure why they're called different things sometimes) is an easy recommend.

[tall torrent]

Pro: it doesn’t need as many talent investments to be good

Con: it’s not a Rashad

[radiant chasm]

AKA perfect timing. like introducing a C-tier rapper

[slow spade]

Power Sword best waifu

Lest we forget

[sturdy schooner]

yes but its so good it gets boring sometimes

[idle swallow]

I've learned to love the original chainsword and the shovel variants after pswording for too long

[sturdy schooner]

chainsword is ol reliable mhm

the shovel variants are also really nice and funny bc bonk

powersword dwarfs a lot of other things in power still tho me thinks

any elite or boss appears?

push attack sequence spam

spam lights + power cycle for any horde problems

[idle swallow]

I wonder if limiting power cycler to only one extra hit on charge for both blessing tiers would be enough to bring it back down to fair competition

[faint beacon]

I won’t lie I find myself falling back to using shovels sometimes just cause the Rashad can get very bland after prolonged usage

[celest cove]

What is a good roll, blessings and perks, on a Helbore Lasgun?

[tame lodge]

Would probably just change the muscle memory

[idle swallow]

probably

[tame lodge]

You can dump ammo and stability
Surgical + Weight of Fire for blessings
Usually Flak/Elite/Maniac

[tall torrent]

Then it’s just flat out worse Rashad

[tame lodge]

I don't see why
So why?

[tall torrent]

Power sword with 2 empowered swings is basically Rashad that needs to press a button to get similar kill efficiency every 2 swings

With worse dodge profile & stagger effects

[thorn lark]

unless we nerf BM

[tall torrent]

Combat axe cleave needs to get buffed

[thorn lark]

and limited to 4 targets maybe

like the chaxe

[tame lodge]

Does Rashad with BM kills 4 targets or 5?

[terse idol]

It is limited

[tame lodge]

Or 6? The cleave is 1.5

[terse idol]

Uhhh

[tall torrent]

4

BM can only hit 4 enemies

But BM is broken because it kills 4 per swing

If it killed 2 or 3 it wouldn’t be as broken

But then combat axe needs their baseline cleave buffed

[thorn lark]

i know, but we're trying to think what could be done to make combat axes work without bm (in its current form)

[spice wadi]

vet chat ? think ?

[tall torrent]

Buff combat axe light atk cleave from 1.5 to 6, nerf BM to 2 targets

[idle swallow]

betta be thinkin about CADIA

[tame lodge]

Ok

So BM kills 4

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-elon-musk-twitter-sink-gif-26995403

[spice wadi]

if they could also make it so that it isnt just light attack spam forever

[tame lodge]

And a 5th enemy won't be hit by the axe, is that right?

[spice wadi]

I can feel the finger tendon screaming

[tall torrent]

Yea, can’t hit 5th

[thorn lark]

on way to kneecap bm without reworking it would be to buff bruisers HP again

[spice wadi]

iirc it boinks them around but doesnt deal damage

[tall torrent]

No, just doesn’t hit

[spice wadi]

but i am a strictly vibes based gamer

im hesitant to trust a cat wearing a cauliflower on its head

[thorn lark]

maybe it's the cauliflower wearing cat shoes

[tall torrent]

BM hits up to 4 enemies with first target damage then starts cleave damage distribution

But since Rashad’s cleave is always lower than the first 4 enemies’ mass

U don’t hit anything past those 4

[spice wadi]

im getting debilitating flashbacks to my developing RSI

[tame lodge]

Oh, that cleared some confusion

Thx

[slow spade]

COward

[slow spade]

also a coward

[midnight totem]

Why? Leave the dead where they belong

[celest cove]

Alright, thanks. Want to try and make it work since it seems interesting and I know enough about the game it not be entirely useless now. 😅

[shadow dagger]

is this middle doorway right before the last airlock in hab dreyko supposed to be purely cosmetic

its still walled off both ways like the door isnt even there

[radiant chasm]

there is supposed to be a door, fatshark fucked up i guess

[tall torrent]

Wish it had better innate cleave ngl

[sleek garden]

I think axes are meant specifically for single target and bm is breaking it

because combat axes on their own are very good at chunking through armor one at a time

And it should be a weakness you have to cover up

the blue combat axe does have a cleave modifier though

[tall torrent]

It doesn’t matter much

At 80% it’s only 1.8 cleave on light atks

[sleek garden]

Yup

Push attack might be a little better

[tall torrent]

PA is good cleave but it’s not good damage

[sleek garden]

what does pa stand for? I should know must have forgot

[tall torrent]

Push atk

[sleek garden]

I do like the blue one for the copied over shovel poke

I don't mind at all that the combat axes can do great against special groups I feel like that's what it should shine at

But slapping brutal momentum and slinging sideways through a horde to kill more than an ogryn can at once is not great

[tall torrent]

Antax heavy atk speed is so slow

[hearty panther]

the way antax feels with max deci + ht stacks

is just about what i think the base cleave should probably be

[tall torrent]

That’s 3.15 cleave

Still way too low imo

[sleek garden]

I think too much is gonna make it still a better pick than a sword

But I do think in a horde hitting at least 3 people would be good

Even if the damage falls off after the first or second guy

[tall torrent]

3 cleave wouldn’t hit necessarily 3 people

It’d hit 1~3

Against scab bruisers u hit only 1 per swing

And it just feels bad

[hearty panther]

you hit two

[tall torrent]

1

[hearty panther]

scan bruis are 2 mass

[tall torrent]

3.5 mass, 3.15 cleave

[tall torrent]

That’s not scab bruiser

[hearty panther]

p. Sure bucketheads are 1.5 and meatheads are 2

[tall torrent]

Dreg bruiser 2.5
Scab bruiser 3.5

[hearty panther]

how has my brain never noticed this

[tall torrent]

playing zealot does that to people

[hearty panther]

lmao

im honestly shocked

[austere mica]

They're skipping Until Death for Anoint and Infested damage?

Fucking what?

Yeah but now I can't die

I have a laspistol for bosses

35k damage reliably

Yeah but its kind of funny and I am absolutely strapped for crafting stuff right now

[cerulean void]

I feel like using Columnus as an example for boss damage is kind of unfair considering it's one of the strongest weapons in the game in terms of sheer ammo:damage

Fatshark is too scared to put Run and Gun on anything useful

[tall torrent]

Pretty much

Why disdain btw

[cerulean void]

I just saw columnus being used as an example for boss damage

laspistol's still a respectable option for bosses but it tends to be trading a lot of utility in for that damage

psyker with scrier's gaze and an infernus mkII is pretty spicy

yes, that's my point

it's not like it's unviable, it's usable but not the best

[cerulean void]

it's not worse than meleeing, that's an unfair statement

we're assuming both of these examples are not weakspot?

or all weakspot?

[tall torrent]

Even if you have full weakspot hits it’s still slower than most melee weapons

[cerulean void]

oh wait this is a zealot chat

[tall torrent]

Also @formal lake why disdain

[cerulean void]

why the fuck aren't you meleeing

[tall torrent]

Is that build for combat axe

[cerulean void]

lmao sorry took me a minute to catch up

[tall torrent]

Wouldn’t blood redemption be better than scourge for combat axe

Unless I’m missing smth

Rly wasn’t feeling scourge uptime on combat axes

Scourge would only be active for like, crushers or smth

Oh

Weird new knowledge acquired

[shadow dagger]

is it worth grabbing bloodthirsty on chainsword from melk or would i literally never use it

[tall torrent]

U wouldn’t use it much

What’s ur build for ev2

Perk & blessing

No perfect strike?

[wraith locust]

isnt twbs like

really good

gotcha, thanks for the nice explanation

gonna try playing without it

since those 2 points are nice to have

[hearty panther]

desperation is kinda weapon dependent, and i guess playstyle

some weps i just dont run my stamina out as quickly or the push attack isnt as combo-y or snappy or w/e

[wraith locust]

im using crusher so ima go desparation

[thorn lark]

without twbs, you're still fucked if you're being shot at without full toughness

and it's mandatory for some weapons, like hammer

taxes

[thorn lark]

Well with martyrdom your can

[frank ether]

everyone else deals with it

[thorn lark]

I play 4 characters. Doesn't mean I like to deal with it when I do not play my zealot.

[shadow dagger]

ive seen at least 4 +150+s today wake a demonhost

what is going on today

[rigid pilot]

Hold W energy

[serene bough]

what mission do/did people do this on

[last parcel]

i did it on twins

[rigid pilot]

Twins easiest

[serene bough]

oh word

works for twins

[elder fiber]

tbf there's some extra wonkiness with spawns right now, sometimes shit just literally pops up in front of you

[serene bough]

maybe ill try to get in a few months

[shadow dagger]

oh no it was pinged multiple times

they just wake it with shooting

[last parcel]

just make sure you dont complete it too quickly

[serene bough]

wym

[elder fiber]

yeah idk there's always going to be people who aren't v good at videogames too

[white minnow]

they're busy looking at their statue of the god emperor

[last parcel]

the time between starting and getting the required health might not be enough if you kill them too quckly

*too much

[serene bough]

oh makes sense

ty

[radiant chasm]

Did it on consignment yard pre twins

Had a premade tho

[shadow dagger]

i did it on consignment the other week

i heard oblivium was real quick though

[thorn lark]

magistrati oubliette is quite short too

[frank ether]

did this in a premade heresy game, we did it in like 14 minutes just skipped the looting

I guess avoid hi intensity / auric if you want it to go even faster, that way you have no chance of getting bogged down by a horde

I think I did it on one of the assassination missions

I forgor its name

the one with prison cells and buttons .d

[serene bough]

lots of options then

ty eveyone

but i dont want to socialize for the penance reeeeeee

[shadow dagger]

is there a way to fix the bugged text chat thing other than restarting the game

[thorn lark]

magistrati oubliette

if you find it in low int it's even better

[low kelp]

Does anyone have a good plasma gun build they could share?

[rigid pilot]

Pick plasma

Pick focus target

Profit

[shadow dagger]

gets hot / blaze away with flak/carapace/unyielding/elite i think?

[shadow dagger]

and then you run the bog standard vet build

[low kelp]

What melee to go with this? Knife?

[shadow dagger]

figure out what enemies plasma blows up

and pick your melee accordingly

[rigid pilot]

Plasma melee can be anything honestly

Preferably something horde orientated

[shadow dagger]

oriented

on an unrelated not i could never figure out where people got orientated from

[low kelp]

Which axe is the good one (with brutal momentum?) Might as well try it out.

[shadow dagger]

rashad

[low kelp]

This is the plasma gun I'm building around that I got, Rashad which?

[shadow dagger]

i know orientation exists but we say that because oriention sounds stupid

the... only one that has rashad in the name?

cant remember which mk it was

combat axe

[low kelp]

There's like 20 axes I figured there was multiple rashads lmao

[shadow dagger]

theres... 6

😟

and like 3 of them start with an A

4?

[last parcel]

traxis... 12?

[shadow dagger]

no thats like 5

4 have a T in em

am i tweakin

[low kelp]

Good enough?

[shadow dagger]

rashad is a funny little weapon

well, axes in general really

[tall torrent]

I run Rashad
If u play knife, swap atk speed & toughness for stam regen delay and reciprocity

[shadow dagger]

if you cant oneshot bruiser mobs with lights or heavies in taxes' case then bromentum value tanks

and you therefore have a very much less fun melee to work with

[low kelp]

Never tried axe so guess I'll give a trial run w/ that build up above

[austere mica]

For use with Agri revolver and Mk4 Devils Claw

opinions?

[gilded cobalt]

AHHHHH

It never gets any easier

[gilded cobalt]

my weapon loadout currently, so I'll give it a shot!

[rigid pilot]

I might skip Deadshot but other than that it's perfectly fine

Grab stam Regen node

Oh its Agri Volvo, keep Deadshot then

[woven coral]

whats the best blessings for the plasmagun?

[rigid pilot]

Blazeaway getshot

[woven coral]

I have volatile 4 locked and I can switch shattering impact 3 to blaze away 3 is it better this way?

or do I keep shattering impact in this case

[rigid pilot]

Blazeaway is generally better

[woven coral]

alright thanks

[round jetty]

darktides music is too quiet for me to fully enjoy

kinda lame during gameplay

[tall torrent]

Gets hot + gloryhunter/blaze away

[weary acorn]

does covering fire affect yourself?

[last parcel]

no

[warm swallow]

guys im torn

hh or revolver

[last parcel]

join the headhunter cult

bodyshots are punishable by summary execution

[rapid hull]

hunting horn, need more doot mains

[placid portal]

brauto mains: headshot, smeadshot

all the same to me

[odd sparrow]

columnus with crit, wait headshots matter

[grand perch]

Revolver if you wanna be meta
Headhunter if you want to be a real marksman

[austere mica]

Agri revolver is you want to live the big iron fantasy

[woeful ibex]

I hope Itemization update we get new guns

[grand perch]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

[warm swallow]

should i nab either of these?

its for knife

but im still level 24

[austere mica]

Uncanny

Lacerate is the worst blessing for it

[warm swallow]

ah ok

[lucid dune]

is it real that dropping grenades with right click doesnt break infiltrate

[austere mica]

If you’re on you can test I psyk but I don’t know

[dreamy spade]

Yes

And it's op

If there a tonnes of enemies on downed teammate just right click frag and rev

I hope they don't patch it

[lucid dune]

pog

it should be intentional right?

zealot stealth doesnt do it

[torn glen]

Take them anyway, to collect blessings in preparation for the upcoming crafting update

[wicked epoch]

stay hydrated vets

[hidden torrent]

What about backshots

[serene bough]

idk if its ever mentioned but its survived multiple patches so id say its intentional

[winter dock]

You know, there are SO many blessings on certain classes of weapon that just make

absolute 0 sense

Like Efficiency on the Infantry lasguns

Why?

Who the fuck is gonna shoot an infantry las once every 4 seconds? Who the fuck cares if an infantry las saves like 1 unit of ammo on the first shot in a volley? AN entire blessing to save like what, maybe 50-100 total ammo tops?

And then, for SOME reason that blessing ISN'T on the guns that would care about it, you know like the Plasma gun

[serene bough]

im sure it was added with the intention of being useful, only for the devs to realize there's no purpose and just left it there to be tweaked in a future update

[winter dock]

Hopefully yeah, I pray the new update reshuffles some of these blessings around

Efficiency would actually be quite nice on the Plasma gun!

[serene bough]

yeah it would make sense

would give you more reason to fire a charge shot every now and then too

that beign said, I dont think it would compete with the current meta blessings for plasma

[winter dock]

Probably not, but it would be a decent soft-option to help make unlucky rolls usable

Gets Hot really is just too damn good

[frank ether]

yep, thats the one

makes for an easy speedrun

[grand perch]

I think efficiency triggered even though you were actively shooting. Would need to test again though, not sure

[tame lodge]

Yup, quite the opposite of Limbsplitter

[grand perch]

yeah still works that way. cooldown for ammo save continues going down while firing, then applies to the next shot when ready

[heavy rover]

I found that my preference for hordes is to do light spams (e.g. mk III shovel). I'm curious to give axes a try, and I've heard the mk iv tactical axe is good with light spams for hordes. Is it worth giving it a try, or are there better alternatives?

[tame lodge]

The better alternative is the Rashad II Combat axe

Kinda hard to build though

Brutal Momentum blessing is mandatory

[thorn lark]

and it's also the map with one of the more cinematic passage, just when you get out of the elevator

[lyric dock]

Nearly perfect, but that damage

[vivid silo]

Isn't it more just that the blessings in general for the Plasma are a bit meh? A high chance to deal 25% more damage, while your RoF is limited due to venting doesn't seem that great compared to some of the best blessings (of other weapons/families).

But at least it's better than when the crit damage increase was only 10%

[frank ether]

I like the map, perhaps the boss is a tad too easy for today standards though

at least with a good team it feels like ganging up on someone lmao

[thorn lark]

definitely, especially when you had a stubber and/or a recon team with a red stim lmao

[fleet thicket]

guys

anyone here uses mark 3 shovel?

do you struggle with horde clear?

[winter dock]

I didn mean to say that the other blessings suck only in comparison. Gets hot is really good since it applies to charge shots too, you can get alot more juice out of it spamming charge shots at close to max heat into crowds of heavy armor units. The super-cleave is the predominant reason to use the charge shot and doing Chargeshot -> 1 tick cool -> Charge shot into a pack of crushers is basically guaranteed instakill on multiple, even kills bulwarks and packs of, well just about anything. Its a great weapon for scab only maels

[winter dock]

Not really no, it is a little worse than normal shovel but very much serviceable

[fleet thicket]

what do you run?

[winter dock]

as the gun with it?

[vivid silo]

Can you show this multikilling of Crushers and Bulwarks with a single shot? This hasn't been possible in a while, so it must have been stealth-changed if it works

[winter dock]

Its not single-shot no

[fleet thicket]

no

your blesigns

[winter dock]

its Charge, onetick cool, then a second charge

and that usually kills

[fleet thicket]

i was kind of forced to use decimator i feel

[vivid silo]

But you are saying you are killing more than 1 Crusher with that charged shot?

[winter dock]

rn I use Decimator and Uncanny strike

[vivid silo]

And/or Bulwarks (with their shields up)

[winter dock]

Yeah, cuz most of them are softened by the first. At least thats how it was when I tested it right after they reintroduced the cleave buff. It has been awhile since then and I haven't really used plasma all that much in the interim, I pretty much exclusively pull it out when I am doing a scab only maelstrom and its hard to find people willing to play that

[fleet thicket]

how do people one shot

[winter dock]

Let me test it again, its possible something changed

[fleet thicket]

crushers with this shovel

its damge is way off even with thurst XD

[vivid silo]

I'm pretty sure it won't cleave through Crushers. It can cleave Bulwarks, but only if their shield isn't up (or you are flanking them) IIRC

I think they stealth-buffed the hit mass of Crushers (or stealth-nerfed the cleave value of the Plasma)

Shortly after the patch went live

[winter dock]

Oh man

Yeah you're right

They totally did

[vivid silo]

I would've tested myself, but I'm not home for another 60 minutes

[winter dock]

its not cleaving them anymore

BUT

IT is onetapping

the first one, at least

[vivid silo]

Aye that I don't doubt

[winter dock]

but the otehr two take nothin 😦

[vivid silo]

And I'm also pretty sure you used to be correct

and they didn't mention it anywhere

I thought I was going crazy back then

[winter dock]

Rat bastards

Took away this guns like one shtick man

I mean I guess it is still the only gun that onetaps crushers

[fleet thicket]

wtf how you one tapping them with hsovel?

[vivid silo]

So we can't shoot through a Crusher, but we can shoot straight through 2 Beasts of Nurgle with uncharged shots

[winter dock]

Not the shovel no

I'm having 2 convos at once

One about sap shovel other about plasma gun

[vivid silo]

Aye sorry Simurg, I kinda jumped in there

[winter dock]

My sap shovel 2 or 3 shots crushers I think

[vivid silo]

The glory of Discord conversations!

[winter dock]

Yeah it 2 shots with heavy special

[idle swallow]

can't one shot a crusher with the sapper shovel smh my head

[winter dock]

For sap and normal shovel I run Decimator and Uncanny strike together and that gets the job done

very good generic melee

not great into heavy stuff, not ideal into hordes, but good enough at both that I can use it with pr. much anything

[fleet thicket]

btw guys

for kantrael

shotgun

full bore is hard to

proc right?

i think deathspitter is better?

[vivid silo]

Aye unless you stick in into their face it's not very reliable

[heavy rover]

I use the mark III shovel. I've got decimator and uncanny strike on it. So far I feel pretty good with horde clear

[fleet thicket]

oh im running decimator and thrust right now

[heavy rover]

Maybe try swapping to uncanny strike. If you can, Desperado (and to a further extent , trench fighter) will also help

[fleet thicket]

ohhh

i see i am running it tbf

on my sharp shooter build

with my mark 1 helbore

i run every helbore with a different helbore mark XD

[heavy rover]

I've been struggling with coming up with a good hellbore build

[idle swallow]

If you're running deadshot I would say all or nothing is worth considering on a shovel

[fleet thicket]

ehm

[heavy rover]

I feel like I'm not hitting hard enough with the mk I or mk ii. Might give mk III a try but the slow charge is a bit of a concern for me

[fleet thicket]

its very very simple

what mark we talking

thats the question

[idle swallow]

Mk3 helbore bayonet is CRINGE

[heavy rover]

I'm thinking mk III hellbore

[fleet thicket]

cuz mark 2 and mark 3 are VERY DIFFERENT WEAPONS

[heavy rover]

Oh yeah I forgot mk III has a different bayonet

[fleet thicket]

okay you want deadshot in your build and surgical definetly!

you want manaic/elite for perks

[heavy rover]

Ah I see

[fleet thicket]

you will one tap crushers

with crit headshot

[heavy rover]

Nice nice

[idle swallow]

Mk7 shovel and mk2 helbore is one of my staple loadouts

[fleet thicket]

you also want that

[heavy rover]

Any suggestions for the mk I since we're on the topic?

[fleet thicket]

what was its name

the blessing that reduces charge time

[idle swallow]

Weight of fire

[heavy rover]

Weight of fire, I think it's called

[lucid dune]

never seen a maul before in my life, is this a good one?

[tame lodge]

My honest 6.5 cleave reaction

With that being said
Mk1 and 2 are viable on Helbore only challenge

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah if you want to give it a go

[carmine cradle]

im a double reload blessing kind of guy

fucking .5 second reload XD

BANG,
BANG,
BANG,
BANG,
BANG,
BANG

[radiant chasm]

inb4 animation bugs

[mortal horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXsPge3eGjQ
this dude is pretty knowledgeable and i think normally correct about builds but man....whats the communities here opinion of him?

i just...can't take listening to him. Its like he's constantly yelling and sperglording at no one

why does he have to be so irate all the time?

[radiant chasm]

tanner speaks loudly and is good at the game, even great if we measure by sheer mechanical skill

he's also grating and aggressive and absolutely stubborn when he's wrong

he is correct about 75-85% of the time but when he is wrong he will just shout louder and repeat himself and say he is correct

firstly, the build doesn't have uncanny strike, so bleed from ft is functionally way less good. crit chance perk isn't needed with vets high crit chance. plasma idc about i'm not a vet expert to comment on that

unarmored damage is also garbage on knife and for bleed, those targets already have low hp and take a lot of bleed damage, better to go unyielding, maniac, flak or even elites imo

i don't agree with sprint effic period even tho some vets here advocate for it, rather just take 15% toughness or 15% hp. you have stam regen curios and a +3 equipped already

[tall torrent]

Yea on knife I don’t rly bother with 3x sprint efficiency

[radiant chasm]

as for talents, nothing sticks out to me as suddenly incorrect or wrong

[tall torrent]

Sprint efficiency is more for stuff like Rashad

Knife rly wants a +3 stam

[radiant chasm]

sprint efficiency is for cowards, also yea, +3 stam is fine

[tall torrent]

Or u could go for forbidden route and take a +2 stam on ur knife

Which is genuinely not a horrible choice

Since knife doesn’t need a lot of specific perks for breakpoints

It’s inherently more RNG than most other veteran weapons due to crits

[radiant chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-attack-darkest-dungeon-death-gif-18532457

i mean if you are going FT

[tall torrent]

It genuinely works (wouldn’t recommend on zealot)

[radiant chasm]

i'd double down on 25% damage to important armors

if you weren't going FT, say mercy+ uncanny, ok i can see +2 stam on vet

cause damage perks affect bleed dmg

[mortal horizon]

I also dont get why people like sprint eff, the difference feels small to me i guess just helps with having stamina up to push or something after sprinting more often

[tall torrent]

The only ones that matter are carapace, elite & flak

Flak is only for scab rager (crit weakspot bleed to death)

And even that u can get stuff like CQKZ to proc where it’s just +15%

So missing a crit related DOT breakpoint isn’t that bad

[mortal horizon]

and ya, i dont agree with a bunch of this build same as you @radiant chasm
bleed + no uncanny makes no sense.
his perks seem bad to me too
and ive seen him advocate for sprint eff before which i also dont like but understand some do. I tend to run stam regen, 40% sniper resist, hp and toughness

[radiant chasm]

yea

[tall torrent]

Sprint efficiency is good for stuff that aren’t knife

Knife has base 0.5 sprint cost/s so the gains from sprint efficiency are not that impressive

Not nearly as good as +stam on curio/weapon

On most other melee weapons for veteran sprint efficiency is pretty good

[radiant chasm]

was it tanner or another DT youtuber who was hard advocating weakspot damage perks cause "it worked against every enemy"

[tall torrent]

Forgot, I don’t rly watch DT yters much

Telopots, JTC & Mr Unc are the only ones I watch from time to time lol

[radiant chasm]

i basically don't watch period

there was a DT youtuber who beefed with zealot chat after we told him FT>lacerate and i literally only responded to him directly once and he put me in the video alongside a bunch of other zealot regulars XD

and it was just him running a normal damn game true solo in the background

and we went back to check the conversation and like, we all basically moved on from him and started talking about general knife shit

[mortal horizon]

i dont think it was tanner but i could be wrong

[mortal horizon]

lol link video

[radiant chasm]

i think he deleted it let me check

[faint beacon]

Does the wildest shit always take place in #zealot-class or something

Cause like it’s always relatively calm in the other channels lmao

[tall torrent]

yea

[grand perch]

dont go to zealot channel. tis a silly place

[mortal horizon]

whats the youtuber?

i remember watching darktide videos a few months ago the algo fed me from realasianrobot and...my god

im not even the most knowledgeable just hangout here and pick stuff up

but he was so wrong about his builds, at least what i watched

and he took SO LONG to explain every little thing, 9 minutes into the video he would still be talking about the first 5 talent choices instead of just showing the build

i had to block his channel on my youtube so it would stop suggesting it lol

sorry if he hangs out here but i was not a fan lol

tanner is obnoxious and yells at you while he talks, but at least is usually pretty knowledgeable

[faint beacon]

I still think it’s hilarious that for sometime lacerate was being praised good by like DT YouTubers as such when you can very easily piece together the Weakspot focused weapon using a non-Weakspot focused talent? That’s kinda shit

[tall torrent]

it's just that when he's wrong (more frequent than ideal) he'll stick to it

[faint beacon]

Extremely stubborn to put it lightly

[idle swallow]

Gonna make a 20 minute exposé about how covering fire is the best vet talent and how tactical awareness/iron will are tied for the worst

[mortal horizon]

ya absolutely lol

[radiant chasm]

privated video

(K)Kappaccinno is the discord name

KKap

[mortal horizon]

i commented i disagreed with a few things, i probably shouldn't of lol

immediately responded and insulted me lol

[faint beacon]

15 shots later the line of crushers are finally dead

[tall torrent]

Lolol

[faint beacon]

Vs what could’ve been like 5 seconds of PA spam

Ever since I learned about Uncanny ages ago I’ve just learned it’s instantly a mandatory blessing on any weapon that offers it

[mortal horizon]

my response

doxxing myself a bit but w/e

[faint beacon]

Coming to comment right now

Calling you smelly

[mortal horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/shook-distraught-devastated-done-crying-gif-15489803

[heavy rover]

Damn, that escalated quickly

[idle swallow]

your father was a hamster and your mother smelt of elderberries

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-walter-white-ffillingame-gif-21517984

[tall torrent]

It’s ok to not take it on zealot if u go precog + riposte

With piety u can crit so much that it’s kinda not necessary

[idle swallow]

Precog and duelist do go a little crazy

[tall torrent]

Precog + duellist + riposte + piety + scourge

[faint beacon]

I mean yeah though In defense of the statement that is Zealot, Zealot has a lot of Lee-way with melee blessings

[radiant chasm]

uncanny helps vs everything that isn't unarmored or infested, literally so good

[radiant chasm]

yea you can hit 95% crit on zealot and the knife adms on crit are all at or over 1.0

[faint beacon]

Good like 70% of the roster ALSO has armor

[idle swallow]

but you didn't consider plasma gun so you're wrong and smelly

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-explosion-lol-cheeky-geezer-gif-26185565

Before you ask the original video they’re fine

[heavy rover]

But have you considered the greatest melee weapon in the game, the hellbore lasgun?

[faint beacon]

Hellbore BM

[heavy rover]

Yes

[faint beacon]

Remember what they took from you

[heavy rover]

Take all my plasteel

Oh wait... Hadron already took it all

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-pickle-ive-come-for-your-pickle-squidward-gif-11536533

[faint beacon]

Just what I needed another brick to my wall

[mortal horizon]

ya i often dont use it on zealot with those 2 blessings too. but its only bc the crits naturally ignore armor so well

[tame lodge]

Hadron praying for the Omnissiah when she should be praying for Bob the builder

[midnight totem]

Maybe he is the ommnissiah

[mortal horizon]

this is what im saying, its not that good at killing crushers ultimately bc it will cost you a lot of ammo, and also time reloading and venting when you dump your heat and ammo to kill them (sry late reply, working, can only chat in segments lol)

i find it more efficient to melee them with knife/PS/combat axe

and then your plasma is ready to whip out and be fresh for the 10 specialist behind them

[coral willow]

joining the chain after playiung elden ring and then being greeted with tanner slander is funny

[mortal horizon]

lol ya

i so wanted to upload my radhan parry kill

but shadowplay stopped working with elden ring for me on the last ER update

no idea why

google shows others with the issue

so i couldn't record it

[coral willow]

nice

[mortal horizon]

forever sadge

[coral willow]

also i failed my gacha smh

next pass is gonna be even more brutal

jesus

[mortal horizon]

what game?

[coral willow]

blue archive

[mortal horizon]

i gave up on gacha games

[coral willow]

or what i like to call 40k but its about students and asspulls

[mortal horizon]

i was really into summoners war, then epic seven, then genshin impact, then i played LA

lost ark isnt really gacha, but korean p2w mmo

[tall torrent]

Lemme guess, shiroko terror?

[inland orchid]

I would say I’ve given up too but Warframe still has a grip around my figurative neck

[coral willow]

thats 6 months later on global

[tall torrent]

Oh

[coral willow]

i think im fucked on that though

unless i go whale

[coral willow]

current listing is hina(dress) and as gacha tradition of every "event" character is a broken ass OP character that is designed to rip your wallet in half did a full pull

got like 0 shit and had to resort to saving throw lmao

[tall torrent]

[mortal horizon]

dont do it, ive done it before and regretted lol

[coral willow]

i do it at times but ye not the best shit

[mortal horizon]

i probably spent $2k on genshin impact over the first 1.5 years of its launch through the ice zone release etc and was not worth. i dont even play anymore. it hurts every time i think about it.

[coral willow]

dont worry

i probably spent like 1k at least on wot blitz

(i am absolutely sane)

[heavy rover]

Holy

[last parcel]

very much so

[coral willow]

shut

[coral willow]

i havent calced

but its over 10 years of that game(i played from the start)

tbh i do think it was worth my money even if i dont play that game cause it has now gone into shit balancing era

still one of my only enjoyable mobile games

[faint beacon]

Canonically plasma would wipe crushers in seconds but I assume it’s like this for balance reasons, but it literally alt+f4s every other special in the game

[coral willow]

actual TPS on phone that doesnt play like garbo

[faint beacon]

Tanner slander will forever be funny to me

Literally got recommended them before I even decided to start coming here for info, went “wow they seem really obnoxious” and moved on

[coral willow]

dude has some subjectively correct takes and then decides to wash every thesis away by being a bitch to counter a bitch

and reddit bitch is less annoying than him/her/it/whatever

[faint beacon]

Subjective in certain areas

Cause In defense of Mamox, they’re batshit insane for calling Uncanny terrible

[coral willow]

there is some truth to it since knife heavy has 100% pen outside of flak(has like 80% i think) and like 60% on carapace so you dont get much value out of it i guess

in theorey

except flak is like the most common armor type

also benefits lights waaaay more

[faint beacon]

Rending overall is just good to have, besides being able to completely bypass carapace is fucking insane

It’s why it’s suggested so much

[coral willow]

my thesis is also based crudely off of darktide BP calc and just bodyshot

seems like unyielding and maniac has wierd WP mults

which means uncanny time :3

well nvm it increases on all thigns except unarmored and infested

i swear i never feel the "extra damage if the rending goes beyond the AP pen" shit

[mortal horizon]

it also increases bleed vs armor, so not using bleed and uncanny together is leaving value/synergy on the table.
I get his arguments, I just dont see 5% crit and reposte being better than 25% flak/maniac and uncanny. Sure it'll work tho and be fine i guess

[coral willow]

rending is basically free damage unless you specifically go for dreg gunners and if you are insane enough or the AI is broken enough to only send unarmored targets at you i think there is something wrong

5% crit is kinda ehhh

its not like vermintide where the only oter shit you can take is usually +10% damage boost

here its 25%

also the meta not being defined by swift slaying

[faint beacon]

Call me insane but I seriously enjoy running Uncanny + Mercy + Serrated Blade on Veteran

Shit is really fun on an Infil build

[coral willow]

eh

probably works

i just dont like mercy

its like

really wierd to proc

[inland orchid]

I don’t blame u it needs 2 conditions to even do its thang

Bleeding AND weakspot hit

[coral willow]

wp is kinda given

its a knife afterall

problem is the bleed

[faint beacon]

Running the bonus %30 Weakspot damage talent also so technically with the conditions met it’s 90%

[coral willow]

lacerate is kinda ass without uncanny

[faint beacon]

However it’s not Lacerate thank god

[coral willow]

flesh tearer is just unreliable without external crit boost and bleed just being better off with uncanny is other thing

[inland orchid]

Ya unless u rock serrated blade just for the sake of procing mercy killer you gonna be changing up that knifes blessings

To compliment mercy

[faint beacon]

Basically

Usually FT with like Recip talent?

[coral willow]

probably works

[faint beacon]

Just so then you have a reliable way to get Crits

[coral willow]

i just went back to rashad cause knife farming got my nerves

[last parcel]

run lacerate + mercy killer like the quickplay randoms do

[faint beacon]

True

[coral willow]

lacerate belongs with uncanny

please

[faint beacon]

Make everyone absolutely despise you

I think Lacerate should genuinely be reworked to just on hit in general

[mortal horizon]

just use precog, easier to activate and better. Finesse dmg is weakspot + crit dmg, mercy killer is only weakspot

[coral willow]

ye

precog is kinda ass cause 2s at times tho

[mortal horizon]

true

[faint beacon]

Wondering if Uncanny + Precog + Serrated would work also

[mortal horizon]

but lots of dodge

[coral willow]

you can just throw away serrated

it doesnt do much

[faint beacon]

Usually constantly proccing with knife as well cause you’re usually in the thick of it

[coral willow]

get reciprocity instead to get more crits to benefit precog

[mortal horizon]

and in the zealot tree at least its super fun bc you take all these other nodes that give you boosts on dodge.
And you dodge and just become a monster with like 100% weakspot/finesse dmg, dmg reduction etc lol

[coral willow]

duelist making you win every duel

[mortal horizon]

ya i was talking like a moron, thats what i meant. knife much dodgy

[coral willow]

:3

[faint beacon]

Veteran with like, yeah your melee hurts a bit more but like… your gun exists!

[coral willow]

anime jumpscare

[last parcel]

AAAAAAAH

[mortal horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/water-balloon-cry-boy-child-fear-gif-24749838

[coral willow]

gets em

every single time

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-darktide-oryx-gif-14283469670598028816

[slow spade]

Cute

[coral willow]

go see it on pixiv instead of trying to pull digital imagery with real money

[slow spade]

Imagine using your own money instead of dockets

[coral willow]

duh

[shadow urchin]

This sentence makes my head hurt

[mortal horizon]

what is this guy talking about lol
"uncanny is awful and shouldn't be used in any build." like....????????

mechanically i know this guy is good, but his extremely all or nothing opinions on builds are so tiring lol

even if you could argue you dont NEED it

or theres other stuff you could choose thats also good

its such an objectively powerful blessing

maybe one of the best in the game

[midnight totem]

Who the fuck is tanner lindberg

[idle swallow]

https://tenor.com/bLuGT.gif

[empty vigil]

hello guys anyone want to lv up new class ?

[midnight totem]

Oh that guy

[faint beacon]

I was about to say you somehow haven’t had your feed tainted yet?

[somber axle]

I had to check his latest youtube vid to see what blessings he recommends over uncanny and like

it's Flesh Tearer + Riposte

[faint beacon]

Wait wait is he serious

[fiery wave]

For single hit yeah

[mortal horizon]

im not trying to bait (unless you mean tanners comment) i just find it funny tanner is so aggressively opinionated and im sitting here like, some of his takes just seems super mid lol.
I would understand if he advocated for not always having to use uncanny and not needing it in every build, but the black and white "uncanny is an awful blessing and shouldn't be used in about any build" is so polarizing to what is objectively one of the most effective blessings in the game imo lol

[faint beacon]

Like recently uploaded this and everything

[somber axle]

yes

this was a vid uploaded 7 hours ago

[mortal horizon]

can youtubers suppress comments? bc when im logged in i see my comment and him disagreeing with me/calling me bad at the top

but when i go to his video incognito my comment with him isn't there lol

i think he suppressed/deleted it

[somber axle]

as dumb as it sounds

I kinda want to try a knife with flesh tearer, riposte and reciprocity now just to see the bleed memes

because at least it's not lacerate knife LOL

[tall torrent]

Just click him off as “never recommend channel”

Never have to watch him again

[last parcel]

yes

[mortal horizon]

nah im not that fragile, i actually like watching his videos hes usuallyt pretty good, but hes funny to watch bc hes like constantly arguing with the air lol

[tall torrent]

There’re better sources for info than him

[mortal horizon]

ah, do you see my comment on his video? i think he hid it lol

[last parcel]

i don't feel like clicking on his channel today

[mortal horizon]

im surprised HE is that fragile he can't leave a comment of someone fairly calmly disagreeing with him and providing an argument

i wasnt even mad besdies telling him to chill out for calling me bad for having an opinion lol

[somber axle]

does flesh tearer apply the bleed to targets hit with cleave too or is this just light spam into a horde at head height to get bleeds on everything and watch it die

[marble mantle]

If you don’t have his opinion you’re wrong

Shrimple as

[mortal horizon]

if any of you are willing to click his video lmk if you see this comment chain on there

[fiery wave]

He’s not even that good

[mortal horizon]

just curious to know if he blocked my comments or not so i dont waste my time ever doing it again lol

[mortal horizon]

ya, watching his gameplay i dont think hes better than me, and i have a ton of time in the game so i think my opinions about builds are at least decent. I just thought i could provide an altering opinion about 1 small aspect of his 13 min build video but i guess that makes me bad lol according to him

[marble mantle]

Honestly the only Darktide YouTuber I watch is chocoB cuz is fun

[somber axle]

he did 4 man all grey item auric maelstrom so like he's definitely mechanically good at the game

[fiery wave]

How much is a ton

[fiery wave]

Hehehehe

[last parcel]

sounds like you should stop build crafting

[fiery wave]

Less of a flex than you would think

[somber axle]

he's also done solo maelstrom/auric damnation

[mortal horizon]

ya i agree, hes mechanically sound and honestly normally his builds are pretty decent

[somber axle]

like that puts him on par with a lot of the other good Darktide players

[mortal horizon]

from the ones ive watched

[fiery wave]

He’s not top 50

[mortal horizon]

i just disagreed with him throwing uncanny under the bus entirely

[somber axle]

the vast majority of people cannot do that stuff solo

the vast majority of people have also never attempted an all grey challenge

[mortal horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/shook-distraught-devastated-done-crying-gif-15489803

[fiery wave]

True solo all grey wasn’t hard

[somber axle]

it's just one of those funny things of like

he's clearly good at the game

but he is very hilariously angry at anyone who thinks differently

[fiery wave]

I did it with a void strike

[marble mantle]

Isn’t that like, a super easy to use staff though

[somber axle]

I think he did it with CIAG/knife?

[marble mantle]

That sounds even easier tbh

[fiery wave]

Plasma knife

[somber axle]

yeah LOL

even still it's like

[marble mantle]

I’m not saying I could do it, def couldn’t

[idle swallow]

I feel like most people here could do that but I just wanna game with the Boyz (or chaotic pubs) when I log on

[somber axle]

intentionally gimping yourself on the hardest difficulty the game currently has to offer and clearing

[marble mantle]

Not me I am simply big and strong and fight hard

[fiery wave]

True solo isn’t that complicated

[marble mantle]

I play on Xbox. It’s actually mechanically impossible.

[fiery wave]

You just need some advanced knowledge and a half decent build

Without stealth or knive run speed

[somber axle]

I've just really liked Uncanny for Crusher can opener memes but I'm curious about trying the Flesh Tearer, Riposte, Reciprocity meme

[marble mantle]

Mmmmmm that’s the dream

I will one day be biggest and strongest

[fiery wave]

Has anyone done it?

That would be extremely painful

Ah so with meta hehe

I have 10 viable true solo builds on zealot

Ok 8, two are for docket farming

[marble mantle]

Why would you true solo docket farm? Or am I misunderstanding what you’re saying

[fiery wave]

So I can gamble

I spent a mil on mk9 heavy swords

[marble mantle]

But like, wouldn’t it just objectively be faster with ppl?

[fiery wave]

Got nothing

I just load up mmt and speedrun

[marble mantle]

Oh okay

So true solo kiting

[hearty panther]

u do it cuz u like havin ur balls twisted

[marble mantle]

Two ogryns, twice the bullets!

[somber axle]

ChocoB is fun to watch for seeing how a very skilled player handles things both in a hectic Maelstrom/Auric Damnation quickplay where the whole squad is dead and they're soloing the map to the next revive checkpoint but they're quiet and don't do any commentary

Tanner is fun to watch because he's insane and gets mad at nothing. His vids are really just there to see what new way he's developed to insult the playerbase and laugh

Mr. Unc is fun to watch because his goofy shenanigans are actual youtuber level quality with good editing, good jokes and good commentary imo

[fiery wave]

I can average 2 mil dockets an hour

[somber axle]

I think there are some good Darktide youtubers who do builds but idk their names off the top of my head

they're all just very different vibes

[marble mantle]

I like the no commentary! He’s pretty mechanically skilled in my opinion. I don’t like watching angry people.

Life is too short to be angry.

[fiery wave]

ChocoB, xstreamdrey, Telopots

[somber axle]

yeah sometimes it's nice to just watch someone play and not hear them chatting about what's happening but other times I like seeing Mr. Unc making funny noises when 6-7 monstrosities spawn in BACK TO BACK TO BACK with 3 of them alive simultaneously at literally the start of a level

[mortal horizon]

Is there a particular set of modifiers and a particular map used for this?
I've downloaded the true solo mod but haven't messed with it TOO much, would like to try.
whats the consensus on map/mission type thats doable solo?

[somber axle]

watch his whole team die

and him slowly lose his mind watching the AI director try to kill him

[marble mantle]

I think I’ve seen one of his videos. Will have to try more.

How do you feel about solo on new map?

Bigger

[mortal horizon]

dude the maelstrom that was up the other night with gas and monsters on one of the throne maps was nuts. we got that exact scenerio with monster spam right in the beginning lol

[marble mantle]

I assume power cell and ice chipping are annoying ones

Ohhh okay

[mortal horizon]

aren't there some events really difficult or even impossible to solo?
do you need to use stealth?

[tall torrent]

data hack and power cell are more annoying

[marble mantle]

Stealth negates a lot of challenge I think

[marble mantle]

Ohhh that makes sense yeah

Data hack for sure cuz you need time to hack

[mortal horizon]

i dont understand how you free enough space to guarantee doing the hacking consoles etc or the hab dreko final event solo

with no one taking pressure off you

[somber axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6Tpu8C8Vg

this is my fav vid of his just because his reactions at the start are so good and it's fun to watch him fight the sheer chaos of everything being thrown at the squad LMFAO

[fiery wave]

3veg

Is the ideal

[somber axle]

I love the monstrosity spawn modifier

[fiery wave]

Maps, I exclude the ones with zero spawns

[somber axle]

the ai director gets so funny LMFAO

[mortal horizon]

3veg? sorry im blanking on what this means lol

[fiery wave]

Silo cluster, consignment yard, smelter complex

[fiery wave]

I-II-V-E-G

[mortal horizon]

ya super fun. but i dont love lights out, can be frustrating. But I do feel like you get more monsters with the modifier tied to monstrous specials too, interesting that its not just me lol

[fiery wave]

Monstrous specialists, only scab faction, nurgles blessing, enhanced blitz

[tall torrent]

waves of specials, weakened monsters, scab only, nurgle bless, enhanced blitz

[marble mantle]

I actually had something very similar to this and someone that joined was blaring “Mr Blue Sky” while we were trying against like 3-4 monsters

[somber axle]

I love hearing him go from calm about the situation being fine to just being lost at how this is happening

give me maybe 2 hours-ish! I need to finish something in FF14 because of a new patch drop

[mortal horizon]

ya thats a good one.
ill need to do some true solo and test myself, im pretty confident i can do it just havent messed with it too much

[serene bough]

thats what you get for using recon it seems

rest in peace

[coral willow]

hi

[fiery wave]

Why are you in here zealot main

[faint beacon]

I honestly should throw myself into doing solos at this point to attempt sharpening out the rest of the shit I’m lackluster at

1k hours in and still haven’t bothered doing solo

[shadow urchin]

howdy

[serene bough]

personally don't play these kinds of games for the solo challenge

i feel like it defeats the purpose of the genre

[fiery wave]

Learning and improving on playing solo saves more games

[serene bough]

it can be good training i suppose

[faint beacon]

That’s the main reason why, I’ve pulled clutches on Auric and Mael

I just need to refine what I might be missing by forcing myself into solo

[somber axle]

that's pre Secrets of the Machine God buffs too LMFAO

[idle swallow]

If they ever do an official integration for solo I'd consider it

Otherwise I got enough other games to play

[somber axle]

I don't really have a lot of hours compared to others here either LOL

[serene bough]

i have roughly that many hours too

[somber axle]

I bounce around too many other games to do 3k here

[faint beacon]

I consider 1k to be an average competent player, anything above 2k is usually a really good player

[serene bough]

still havent 100% the game either

i wish i could play more but lately these days im locked down with responsibilities

[idle swallow]

I've seen too many people with 3k plus hours in all types of games that were still bad at core game mechanics to believe in hours=skill

[fiery wave]

People who can put up with this game for that many hours tend to be good

[serene bough]

makes sense

more time played = more knowledge = more likely to know what theyre doing

[somber axle]

hours played don't always translate into skill though because like I have 4.5k+ hours in FF14 and I haven't cleared Ultimates or anything LOL