6 seconds now for a while
#veteran-class
pastel yew
dire breach
agreed,
pastel yew
still though the actual bonus for mf just feels
lacking
a lot of the time
for marksman type weapons at least
dire breach
anyway, I came here to ask another thing. 😄 is skullcrusher any good on the shovel?
pastel yew
thats the stacking stagger right?
dire breach
yes
pastel yew
uhh its probably not useless
I'm not sure if its good though
I think uncanny strikes is like
the main one you super need
thrust is funny if its a sapper shovel
dire breach
yes
pastel yew
with the big anti armor bonk
yeah decimator is aight
I'm not massively keen on it but the numbers arent useless
dire breach
I have decimator 4 and 8% melee dmg on elites on it.
anyway, im torn between 25% maniac or Flak dmg, and the other blessing.
pastel yew
I guess uncanny is less important on a sapper shovel since you can use the alt attack
thrust + limb splitter sounds funny
wonder if you can one tap crushers with that
dire breach
meh, limbsplitter is annoying, cause it resets if you attack in between the CD
pastel yew
meh, limbsplitter is annoying, cause it resets if you attack in between the CD
yeah unfortunately
its more for that super strong first strike
limpid turtle
interesting blessing
That would work suprisingly good on some push attacks
flat crypt
interesting blessing
that's good for standard issue push attack
pastel yew
is that the thrust one?
dire breach
so skullcrusher, uncanny strike or hammerblow?
on the shovel 7
and 25% maniac or flak?
flat crypt
might want to consider carapace also for the special attack
stiff glacier
Man i wish efficency was good
Needing to phase shots between 5-4 seconds to benefit from it is so bad
wicked epoch
Which recon gun sounds the most pew pew?
tame lodge
I've never seen this before
Because it was bugged before the Machine God update
limpid turtle
might want to consider carapace also for the special attack
Carapace/Maniac i'd say
tame lodge
It's working now and should pair well with All or Nothing
tame lodge
Needing to phase shots between 5-4 seconds to benefit from it is so bad
At least it doesn't work like Limbsplitter
Where any attack would reset the timer
stiff glacier
Well yea that one is ass too
dire breach
Thank you all!
flat crypt
wonder if you can one tap crushers with that
pretty sure it can, i got a melee focused build and a mk7 with limbsplitter and +25% cara -> crushers are left with ~200health after heavy special
acoustic moon
Or is it just kantarel las guns
kantarel just does good damage consistently, so idk its never really made sense to me
lucius that is lmao
tame lodge
Or is it just kantarel las guns
Only the infantry lasguns
Lucius have Surgical so you can proc Shock Trooper
stiff glacier
I dont like charge up so ive preferred kantarel
heavy rover
You don't really need to charge up lucius. When I used it most of my time was with regular shots. Saved up the power shots for crushers and such
stiff glacier
It just feels weird to shoot uncharged shots with it
heavy rover
Could do something like a mk ii hellbore with surgical and weight of fire
Speeds up charged shots really fast almost feels like normal shots
acoustic moon
that sounds fun to use tbf
stiff glacier
I need to figure out stealth build with accatran lasgun
heavy rover
that sounds fun to use tbf
Yeah, it was quite hilarious to use. Barely needed to pick up ammo with shock trooper and yet taking down even crushers in a few clicks was deeply satisfying
acoustic moon
uncut pebble
Does agile engagement work on DOT's?
I'm thinking about making a bleed weapon spec build with the bolt pistol and puncture.
frank ether
I need to figure out stealth build with accatran lasgun
take Vld, throw in onslaught somewhere, done
tall torrent
You don't really need to charge up lucius. When I used it most of my time was wi...
Helbore needs to use charged shots pretty much all the time
If you’re only using uncharged shots for Helbore u might as well use infantry lasguns
uncut pebble
If you aren't using charged shots, what's the point of having weight of fire?
heavy rover
For the times when I didn't have a hellbore with weight of fire
Did a whole lot of experiments with hellbore to see what would click for me
agile crypt
just spent 1.1 mil buying mrk III helbore and didnt get a single roll over 365.... dam this sucks
lyric dock
How it is at times
You get very low base ratings or you get a good base rating, but one of the stats you need is complete and utter shit
heavy rover
yeah, at this rate I've given up on rolling for a good rating. I just get something that's close enough and keep it for the itemization rework
agile crypt
last time i got a 380 it was maxed on everything but the damage lol
shadow urchin
I got loser's luck, where I keep getting 380s for weapons I donnae wish to use
frank ether
If you aren't using charged shots, what's the point of having weight of fire?
if you arent using charged shots the entire weapon is pointless lmao
esp with how quick hb 1-2 charges
shadow urchin
Hey, any good horde clear melee that isn't the Powersword? I'd like to diversify my repertoire.
oblique totem
Use gun
shadow urchin
Aye, I'm using gun, but the gun I'm using is good against big bois and special bois. Need a trash sweeper
oblique totem
As for a serious recommendation. I don't know, chainsword?
shadow urchin
Ah? I must be using the wrong mark.
last parcel
rashad combat axe (antax works too)
last parcel
Ah? I must be using the wrong mark.
XIIIg is the horde clear specialist one
shadow urchin
I though Rashad was known for its strikedowns, no?
shadow urchin
XIIIg is the horde clear specialist one
Many thanks!
last parcel
you use lights with brutal momentum
tame lodge
Dclaw 4 has Light Heavy combo for clearing thrash
shadow urchin
Ah, that won't work, my fingies lock up if I use too many lights in a row.
oblique totem
I try to solve every problem by shooting it.
shadow urchin
Somekind of Rhubarlogical disorder
last parcel
dclaw has great horde clear until dreg bruisers show up
last parcel
Ah, that won't work, my fingies lock up if I use too many lights in a row.
are you on pc
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/88
shadow urchin
Backup, did the Emperor send you? Because you're an angel.
shadow urchin
What?
Oh no, did Backup die? I'm so sorry. I dinnae mean to be insensitive.
Is that what happened to the last 157 Backups!?
oblique totem
No, it's just. I'm not used to them being helpful. Usually it's more along the lines of using memes to make everything worse.
shadow urchin
Oh, whew. That's a relief. In that case, the praise is still well deserved, even if their actions are out of character.
oblique totem
I suspect shenanigans, but remain cautiously optimistic.
last parcel
the shananigans is that rolling a good rashad will cost you your firstborn
oblique totem
There it is.
shadow urchin
I think I might already have one buried in my inventory, let me check. Might be thinking of Psyker.
oblique totem
Oh, a rare reversal
tall torrent
Hey, any good horde clear melee that isn't the Powersword? I'd like to diversify...
Rashad mk2 combat axe
tall torrent
I though Rashad was known for its strikedowns, no?
It’s top 3 performer in just about every category
crude fiber
Basic shovel is great for heavy spam if I can't do a lot of lights
lyric dock
Rashad is really good for horde clearing Thanks for BM
lusty sapphire
Rashad is really good for horde clearing ~~Thanks for BM~~
But it involves spamming lights and pa
lyric dock
We love keep swinging for light attack spam
lusty sapphire
Ah i see with the mod yeah
lyric dock
It saves your hand and your controller/Mouse
Because you always have the weird folks that play PC games on controller
Same for full auto for single fire weapons
lusty sapphire
I love full auto
lyric dock
Same. Makes using the Helbore 2 and Laspistol more enjoyable for me
idle swallow
The emperor wants you to get carpal tunnel by using mk3 knife lights only max attack speed no full auto
tame lodge
Ah yes, training for Master of Puppets
wind patio
Hello, I am here to make an announcement that smoke grenades are very good.
midnight totem
Quite good, when properly used
wind patio
It's so sad seeing people dis them with such conviction. How can people complain about a consumable that nullifies ranged enemies, and a majority of specialists?
shadow urchin
I thought the consensus here was that they're good, but the other two are seen as better?
tame lodge
Because it wasn't so good a couple patches ago, snipers could still target you, gunners and reapers would hold the trigger
hard cave
tacticool joint sesh
shadow urchin
I am also concerned about occluding mine and my teammates' vision.
tame lodge
I was as well, mostly used them on Vent Purge
somber axle
Smokes are good but the average Vet has no idea what they do or how they work LOL
tame lodge
But now I'm a walking vent purge
somber axle
it's not that they're bad, it's just that the average person doesn't really understand them and it's way easier to just throw Shredder Frag Grenades or Kraks
shadow urchin
I wonder if there's an easy fix to correct that. Kinda like when Valve changed the price of a CSGO weapon and then changed it back.
somber axle
I'm sure if the average Vet understand the whole list of things Smokes do they'd change their mind but like
throw shredder go boom
Penances are sorta the way they've pushed people into using things they normally wouldn't
shadow urchin
Then maybe it's a communication or UX issue? Like, it's not being conveyed simply enough to the player.
shadow urchin
I'm sure if the average Vet understand the whole list of things Smokes do they'd...
So we're on the same page, could you show me its features?
umbral scaffold
Far as I'm aware, what smoke does is:
- Prevents enemies from shooting through it, and gunners might keep firing without a target
- Forces enemies to relocate away from the smoke until they have line of sight to you again, which also works when the smoke is between you and them
- Prevents snipers from aiming at you
What I don't think it does is:
- Prevent specialists and melee enemies from attacking you inside it
- Put out fires from bombers and barrels
somber axle
So we're on the same page, could you show me its features?
Numbers Cat has a guide on it but it does way more than just disrupt enemy shooters
It can also completely nullify pox hound pouncing and significantly reduce Beast of Nurgle vomit range as two other examples
umbral scaffold
Smoke is an insane advance, concealment and area denial tool
People just clown on it mostly because it doesn't do damage
shadow urchin
Numbers Cat has a guide on it but it does way more than just disrupt enemy shoot...
Do you happen to have a link on hand? Is it pinned?
somber axle
Do you happen to have a link on hand? Is it pinned?
He hasn't released his 2.0 version of his guide so you might have to ping him
He gives his 2.0 version to people on request I think?
umbral scaffold
Granted I kinda want anything besides something that encourages people to keep dropping smokes on my feet
somber axle
Or at least shares screenshots of particular pages he's written
shadow urchin
People just clown on it mostly because it doesn't do damage
Just like me!
umbral scaffold
Some people have suggested increasing smoke visibility from within, but having played Insurgency co-op I really fucking hate smoke warriors
somber axle
@tall torrent Numbers Cat I call you to fulfill your oath. Show the Smoke Grenade page for @shadow urchin
last parcel
Do you happen to have a link on hand? Is it pinned?
this is what he posted recently
i would screenshot the page itself but i forgot my password and don't have access anymore lmao
shadow urchin
<@366562874039992331> Numbers Cat I call you to fulfill your oath. Show the Smok...
The skies darken, the wind howls, murders of crows swarm above.
somber axle
That's the thing!
shadow urchin
Giant numbers begin falling from the sky. An old lady sitting accross the street gets flattened by a 6
tall torrent
i would screenshot the page itself but i forgot my password and don't have acces...
It’s cuz the original document had too much bloat (loaded very slowly) so I rebuilt a copy
drowsy aspen
Love it when the Ogryns are in the smoke
last parcel
drowsy aspen
When will we get the engineer tf2 class
somber axle
Tech Adept would be my new main
umbral scaffold
For reference, the green area is a smoke trail people used to push the first point in Sinjar
tame lodge
Far as I'm aware, what smoke does is:
- Prevents enemies from shooting through i...
Gunners will stop shooting now
umbral scaffold
It was a very shit spawn that got a lot of people killed without concealment
Open space + height disadvantage = owie oof oof
true trellis
What I don't think it does is:
- Prevent specialists and melee enemies from atta...
Sometimes melee enemies path around the smoke too
Or at least path to other players instead
tame lodge
You can't throw the smoke at the gunners because they will not care
But it was a viable strategy back then
somber axle
I think there's a misunderstanding of why some people throw smoke grenades at gunners
you throw smoke into gunners because you're advancing into the cloud
you drop smoke at your feet if you're holding position
the buff is from being in the cloud
so if you're closing to melee the initial pop of the smoke grenade will disrupt their firing and then you rush melee to stab them to death
shadow urchin
Maybe there should be like, a vignette around your screen when you're concealed by smoke?
last parcel
meanwhile the penance is to throw smokes at enemies 
somber axle
yeah LMFAO
the penance is funny because I think Fatshark expected players to learn this naturally through trial and error but people are still confused on how it works even after doing the penance
tame lodge
Maybe there should be like, a vignette around your screen when you're concealed ...
100%
tall torrent
Numbers Cat has a guide on it but it does way more than just disrupt enemy shoot...
It’s not BoN vomit range, it’s the range at which BoN needs to get to u before it starts the vomit
somber axle
It’s not BoN vomit range, it’s the range at which BoN needs to get to u before i...
yeah that's what I meant but words are hard because I'm a clown LOL thanks
in my head these two things mean the same thing but I can see where someone could see it as reducing the length of the vomit pool instead
last parcel
clowns are bad at english
somber axle
it's not quite Psyker bubble levels of directly countering Burgle vomit but it DOES make them vomit way less if you can dance out of that tiny range
last parcel
that information shall go into the vault
somber axle
I speak one language and I do it very poorly
tame lodge
you throw smoke into gunners because you're advancing into the cloud
Yes this is the case now since gunners engulfed on smoke will track anyone outside it
Back then you'd throw the smoke to make them stop+move away from the smoke
It was a weird tech
Rip
wind patio
So from what I understand, smoke grenades give you concealment that basically says you're behind a wall until you're at a very close distance.
-Enemies behind walls tend to not attempt attacks, even melee enemies. The range at which melee enemies can initiate an attack is actually larger than the smoke's sightline negation, so you're actually reducing melee enemies effective range, and preventing some from using certain attacks (Gap closing attacks from Bruisers are a notable example.)
-This behavior is probably why Gunners previously used to keep shooting where you were right before the smoke went off. Gunners are programmed to shoot where they last saw you when you run behind a wall to simulate them "Suppressing" you when you're behind cover, but that interaction was changed specifically for Smoke grenades.
-Smoke Grenade's effect theoretically hits literally every attack in the game, it's just that a large portion of enemy attacks and behaviors don't need line of sight to immediately initiate, like Mutants, for example, who will path towards you regardless of sightline, or Bombers, who tend to aimbot their grenade towards a player regardless of sightlines. However, Trappers, hounds, will not attack you until they cross that gap.
-This is likely why Beast of Nurgle doesn't vomit in smoke unless close, because they are the only monstrosity that has an attack that specifically cares about line of sight.
tall torrent
So from what I understand, smoke grenades give you concealment that basically sa...
Not every attack in the game
wind patio
Not every attack in the game
List an attack
tall torrent
The main one of bomber
wind patio
Covered in the post.
The effect of smoke is to say you're behind a wall.
Some enemies dont care you're behind a wall -- ie: Bomber
It likely DOES affect Bomber, they just don't care for their general behavior.
And I can't exactly test this, as Specialist AI is weird and already sometimes walk straight towards you like they can't see the players right in front of them about to kill them in melee.
true trellis
So from what I understand, smoke grenades give you concealment that basically sa...
Tbh i liked that the gunners kept shooting
wind patio
"Trapper is fleeing!"
Trapper running right towards me
true trellis
It's just silly to not have them fire at least a bit into the smoke cloud
wind patio
I don't know if it's just me, but I kinda felt as if they were shooting at massive innacuracy into the cloud.
tall torrent
I don't know if it's just me, but I kinda felt as if they were shooting at massi...
It’s semi suppression
lyric dock
Gunners shoot at the last location they saw you
tall torrent
Suppressed enemies have reduced accuracy
wind patio
Indeed.
Though I also thought the suppression effect was kinda tied into the radius of the nade itself. I wonder if it's larger than what the smoke covers.
Kinda like how Chorus' suppression radius is deceptively enormous to the point of silliness.
tame lodge
I do hope we get a dev blog taking about the Bomber's AI
I swear that Tox bomber accounts for the bounce (ignore some heads going off ledges)
lyric dock
I seen Tox bombers throw some mad 9000 IQ fart bombs
Which makes them even more annoying to hunt down
wind patio
I usually chalk it up to dumb luck, but they're crazy good at what they do, gotta give the 'eretics credit.
lyric dock
Get 3 of them throwing at your location and there is no luck
You get no viable piece of land to work with
wind patio
Usually when I get bombed/flamed, it's only right after I get trapped with no teammate to help me 
tame lodge
You just got coordinated strike'd
lyric dock
Bombers are generally high priority for me so I'll hunt down those fuckers if it is safe to do so
somber axle
fight inside the cloud with corruption resist 
tall torrent
Tox bomber’s Dmg is actually insanely high
wind patio
The versus mode we're gonna get in 4 more years is gonna be super sweaty
lyric dock
Tox bomber’s Dmg is actually insanely high
And covers so much damn area
tame lodge
Damn
lyric dock
70 toughness Dmg per tick
You're shitting me...
last parcel
tame lodge
The versus mode we're gonna get in 4 more years is gonna be super sweaty
Airlocks/elevator will be a problem
lyric dock
That's why it was capable of chewing through my ogryn's insane levels of toughness
tall torrent
You're shitting me...
somber axle
fight inside the cloud while making direct eye contact with the tox bomber to assert dominance
harsh ridge
godDAMN, Melk! you've been holding out on me!
faint beacon
Actually evil pistol for evil people
harsh ridge
sorry, but I like my yee-haw moments
idle swallow
harsh ridge
https://tenor.com/bkYDe.gif
I was thinking more like the deadly .44 of Ringo, but that works too
lyric dock
godDAMN, Melk! you've been holding out on me!
Why you always check with melk every day either in game or through the browser extension
hard cave
Why you always check with melk every day either in game or through the browser e...
Is melk the same for everyone?
hard cave
what browser extension then,,,,
lyric dock
clear lantern
https://tenor.com/bkYDe.gif
Is that Revolver "Revolver Ocelot" Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot) !?
pseudo fiber
Thank you Hadron
gritty nimbus
godDAMN, Melk! you've been holding out on me!
....It's perfect.....
crude fiber
godDAMN, Melk! you've been holding out on me!
Literally perfect roll for the crafting change well eventually get
hollow warren
Is it intentional or a bug that the power sword loses it's charges if you get smacked by an enemy mid attack?
severe gale
Is it intentional or a bug that the power sword loses it's charges if you get sm...
intentional
hollow warren
Fuck that stupid
hollow warren
I've never hated poxers and groaners more than I do after a Lights Out damnation auric mission
those enemies can fuck off to the fucking moon
tall torrent
Is it intentional or a bug that the power sword loses it's charges if you get sm...
Intentional, power cycler only applies to attacks in a chain
last parcel
tall torrent
Get hit = combo chain gone
lyric dock
trying to make a commando build with this
Bricked...Keep it until crafting rework
lyric dock
Get hit = combo chain gone
As the enemy smacks you. They press the power button on your sword
last parcel
trying to make a commando build with this
you could swap punishing salvo for dumdum and reload for flak then use it for duck and dive shenanigans
last parcel
hard cave
fucking corpse emperor,,,,
lyric dock
pseudo fiber
Does anyone have link to the recon build?
last parcel
Does anyone have link to the recon build?
you're gonna have to elaborate on the specifics because there's multiple talent tree setups for them
pseudo fiber
Uhh the executioners stance crit build with teh fast firing one. I think it's a meme I'm not sure admittedly I don't keep up with the recon
warm swallow
the 2 round burst hh has 0 recoil at level 14
this makes me happy
3 round was crazy
is this a good perk to get?
this is what im going rn but should i grab that once i can?
lyric dock
If you got the spare point for it
inland orchid
Depends how much u like gambling
lyric dock
Also take either perk towards getting Survivalist and save a point
warm swallow
im a fan of gambling
inland orchid
counter fire then, bigger they are just a flat increase to a specific type
warm swallow
ah ok
inland orchid
Meanwhile counter fire is all damage locked behind gambling
So if u don’t mind the luck factor I’d go for that
warm swallow
alright
tall torrent
this is what im going rn but should i grab that once i can?
Get grenade regen first
lyric dock
Yeah that's a very important skill for Vet
And makes it so you're not competing for grenade pickups with Zealots and Ogryns
lyric dock
It's Malice
warm swallow
fair
lyric dock
Malice you either get the newbies, the "Been a minute I played so let's do a warm up game", or people fucking around with some meme build
warm swallow
i play malice to level then after im 30 i play auric
what should i do for these with my build
lyric dock
What's your end goal weapons?
warm swallow
2 round hh and knife
warm swallow
damn
lyric dock
Knifes never clicked with me as a melee weapon
warm swallow
i got melee once from an emp gift and fell in love honestly
single target my beloved
lyric dock
And I tend to bias towards the las weapons, the random use of Plasma, or the trusty revolver
warm swallow
man my vet is dripped out
winter grove
what should i do for these with my build
Ohhhh shit a new vet player?
warm swallow
I’ve finally found the will to max the other classes lol
lyric dock
My 2 vet looks I swap between
warm swallow
Main psyker and finished maxing my ogryn so its vet time
warm swallow
My 2 vet looks I swap between
Unironically think ive seen you in a few aurics before
lyric dock
If you ran into a Vet named Shelly that's me
idle swallow
are you playing right now i think i just saw you
winter grove
I’ve finally found the will to max the other classes lol
Let's just say
Vet is tanky
lyric dock
I just logged into Darktide
warm swallow
I fuck with vet so hard
Unironically might start maining him once I’ve maxed everyone
lyric dock
I swap between Vet, Ogryn, and Psyker
warm swallow
I love zealot chat
wary wharf
Until the crafting system update my sweet prince
mortal orbit
Vets the way, or ogryn. Sah and slab 4 lyf
faint beacon
Unlike <#1046913589614747719> <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Great way to explain the channels tbh lmao
I'd say Veteran is going to be the most blunt to say "Your builds shit, but here's how you can fix it" and literally give you the most fucking min-maxxed build for a set up
heavy rover
sprinkle in a few shenanigans and shitposting every now and then
winter grove
Great way to explain the channels tbh lmao
I'd say Veteran is going to be the m...
"Oh you have bit of bad choices for your build. Let me help you by making it 300% more effective"
winter grove
sprinkle in a few shenanigans and shitposting every now and then
True that
faint beacon
Vet chat my beloved
arctic umbra
Hi I’m just posting to get a red name 🍁
last parcel
give em the canadian double tap
heavy rover
i think you mean the ol' double double
lusty sapphire
Great way to explain the channels tbh lmao
I'd say Veteran is going to be the m...
I might be biased, but that's more an ogg chat prerogative. Cause it's pretty black and white what WILL be good and what won't for certain builds
Vet has a bit of wiggle room on build paths
faint beacon
I might be biased, but that's more an ogg chat prerogative. Cause it's pretty bl...
I feel like Ogryn Chat is far more welcoming than Veteran I wont lie
but they're on the same tier of here's thing thats bad
here's how you can fix it
somber axle
There's a lot of wiggle room on what you can afford to get in a Vet build but not always things worth getting for a particular loadout
Some talents are just very weak as far as benefit goes
lusty sapphire
I feel like Ogryn Chat is far more welcoming than Veteran I wont lie
Nah, if slab sees you with a slab shield he will tell it to you straight
faint beacon
Psyker chat is kinda just in their own bubble?
somber axle
But like you can make literally anything you want and do anything you want if you're good enough so if it works for you it works
faint beacon
Like I seriously dont know how to explain them
they're there
they will help you with builds and the likes
lusty sapphire
Nah, if slab sees you with a slab shield he will tell it to you straight <:KEKW_...
But jokes apart, i feel like vet and ogg chat have the most complete array of ppl explaining things
karmic moat
BAYONETS AM I RIGHT LADS?!
lusty sapphire
But jokes apart, i feel like vet and ogg chat have the most complete array of pp...
Or maybe I just don't vibe enough with floor stains 
and overcharged batteries
last parcel
Some talents are just very weak as far as benefit goes
inspiring presence is so good that it's the best talent for both vet and psyker
somber axle
LMFAO
faint beacon
But jokes apart, i feel like vet and ogg chat have the most complete array of pp...
I feel like this Slightly plays into why Ogg's and Vet's are so fucking loyal to protecting each other in game lmao
winter grove
Psyker chat is kinda just in their own bubble?
If you pop their bubble they'll spawn a beast of nurgle
So here's that
tall torrent
they will help you with builds and the likes
To be fair ogryn is kinda similar to veteran in terms of breakpoints and stuff
More so than zealot & psyker
Zealot is a bunch of conditional buffs & Crit RNG
Psyker is soulblaze stack, conditional buffs & Crit RNG
Whereas veteran & Ogryns are
“Here’s what u need to get XX non-Crit breakpoint”
lusty sapphire
Psyker is soulblaze stack, conditional buffs & Crit RNG
And smykers, oh a lot of smykers
Fucking cc spam
tall torrent
And smykers, oh a lot of smykers
I mean in terms of min-max
Psyker & zealot are a lot more lenient than veteran & ogryn
arctic umbra
Let’s play as Cadians 😎
lusty sapphire
I mean in terms of min-max
Sorry I just derailed the convo cause I have personal beef with smite
Don't take it too seriously
I agree with your points tho
last parcel
smitephobic
umbral scaffold
Based take
frank ether
Just took all the console players to leave for you to not get publicly hanged for that take
austere mica
I like smite psykers that use it the bare minimum to keep a run floating
frank ether
they don't really exist to my experience
frank ether
if the psyker player is good its non stop screen deletion and I can't see shit
Its actually painful to engage in melee
and have a psyker fart their particle puke all over you
my eyes hurt
genuinely
see the problem here is I can not blame the players for this situation
they're given the power to non stop spam and they will do what the game allows
Like I can kick a veteran that spams 500 ping a minute for being obnoxious but if I'm giving psykers the same treatment might aswell auto leave lobbies when one shows up
austere mica
Reminds me of the troll mod that supposedly prevents you from matchmaking with certain abilities
But it just automatically makes you leave every match
frank ether
there is a version of it that supposedly makes you not match-up with console plebs
but it doesnt rly do anything
man anytime I insult console players part of me feels genuinely bad inside
but I have been gaming for majority of my life
genuinely haven't seen a console player in any fps game that made me go ''wow this dude/dudette is a gamer''
usually its more like ''oh this person takes 5 days to do a 180 turn'' or I watch myself in killcam and the console player's aim goes from staring at the floor tiles to suddenly jumping at my head in under 0.1 seconds perfectly tracking my skull through a jump peak that would drop the jaw of like %99 of PC players
Idk why I go on this weird autistic rant but I've been goofing in battlebit recently and realized I missed playing fps games
austere mica
Battlebit is cool but I also like 2042 despite it being worse in most ways
frank ether
battlebits cool, its a very surface level game though skill floor wise
its cool because I can log in, have a 10 KDR session and log out feeling good lmao
absurd amount of player density
which is cool in its own way
umbral scaffold
Psyker particle puke is kinda bad
austere mica
Sadly I can't be the AA the enemy team bitches about in chat in battlebit
I am REALLY fucking good at AA in 2042
umbral scaffold
I play with perilous combustion because it's helpful and synergizes with uncanny
frank ether
I really wanted to love 2042
austere mica
Human beings were not meant to fly
frank ether
2142 was my introduction to battlefield style games
austere mica
I am a divine messenger of gravity sent to bring you all back down
umbral scaffold
But each time I kill a tag with my toothpick it's like
umbral scaffold
Golly gee I sure fucking wish I could see
frank ether
and they released a map with an open hill section
austere mica
the hind was so overpowered
Live Wildcat reaction
frank ether
it was non stop super hind carnage
umbral scaffold
And the shit flame is the same colour as the DD target
austere mica
All it takes is you being in my LOS and 600m for a bit
frank ether
not anymore I imagine hind got giga nerfed
but not in season 1
you could even do the BF4 thing where you have an engi side seat spamming repairs
frank ether
All it takes is you being in my LOS and 600m for a bit
do you play the
TV missile women
I forgor her name
austere mica
Occasionally
frank ether
the one that regenerates rockets
austere mica
I like Crawford (Mounted MG) more
austere mica
his lines for killing vehicles are great
austere mica
the turret guy
He has a manned MG turret with a shield
frank ether
he's ok I guess, I play more infantry so never rly got too into engineers
I kinda disliked vehicle balance a lot in 2042 so I just focused on infant
played a lot of mackay cause he is broken
and also a lot of the old lady with stim gun
forgor her name fdkhdg
austere mica
Falck
frank ether
o yes
austere mica
I maxed her out
frank ether
falck had my most playtime
frank ether
62 year old lady doing jump peeks and power slides with a drum mag ak
o yep
only in 2042 .d
44 revolver was rly fun
but they kinda power creeped it with the deagle imo
austere mica
I could countersnipe with it
austere mica
but they kinda power creeped it with the deagle imo
Deagle has shit damage at range
frank ether
Its a fine gun when you find bots that stand still
from time to time I would nail headshots on jumping players aswell
austere mica
.44 2 shot body and 1 shot head out until 100m
frank ether
Idk dont think its that relevant at that range
guess you could put a scope on it and go for memes
I was using it with irons lol
never really properly aimed with it, more like quickscope using monitor crosshair
austere mica
I actually got kills at that distance with its 4x scope
It was my pocket sniper
Perfectly covered the pump shotgun’s lack of range
frank ether
I used to do that meme when I played insurgency
I didn't even pick a rifle the loadout was just the big iron with a scope
austere mica
You call it a meme but I have nearly 200 kills using it like this
frank ether
also used PiP scope to be a total hipster
I mean it is a meme though
its for styling on people
austere mica
Yeah
I do love thinking about the snipers reaction when they get peaked by a medic with a revolver
frank ether
yea its hilarious
I'd still play bf4 if it was a bit more alive
but its a flawed game I suppose
austere mica
I think it’s kind of funny that my favorite maps happen to be the best for AA
frank ether
Its like a common theme for bf games after a certain while most maps become unplayable because vehicle players will master the skill curve to the point they can go 200-0 uncontested in those maps with zero cover and completely destructable buildings
austere mica
Also makes sense but like
umbral scaffold
Does it also have kill rooms with 12 people cramped together and reviving each other?
austere mica
One
frank ether
yea they added one map like that
austere mica
It’s a bunker on the top of the hill in Orbital
frank ether
which is apparently very well received, doesnt suprise me
austere mica
I have fought most of a match in there more than once
umbral scaffold
Pushing those medic rooms in 3 was a nightmare
austere mica
It’s actually pretty decently done too, 3 entrances
umbral scaffold
None of the kills mattered
austere mica
And one doesn’t have los down it
frank ether
dont think anyone plays meat grinder maps for winning
people play it to have infantry fun without getting ass blasted by vehicle mains
umbral scaffold
Quite true
umbral scaffold
I loathed vehicles in most games
frank ether
like in BF3/4 they also had the best guns uncontested with the ability to self heal too
umbral scaffold
Planetside was one that gave me nightmares
umbral scaffold
Assault was weirdly versatile
frank ether
I'll just say
if you think medicballs are bad in battlefield
planetside takes that to next level lol
medic is not the best infantry class but revives are completely busted in planetside
umbral scaffold
Man, Planetside was a shitfest with pushing
frank ether
so it doesn't matter that you don't get a cloak or overshield
you can revive that same heavy assault 20 times
the ''accept/deny'' window of invulnerability and the lack of a revive limit creates long fights and arguably makes some maps winnable for attackers but it also really burns people
I think original designers just made medic n revives overpowered instead of fixing the attacker spawn issue and doubling down on map design which feels like a ''we ran out of time/money'' issue, planetside was a very rushed game for what it is after all
frank ether
I think the idea is flawed to the core that a combat vehicle also serves as the main attacker spawn
umbral scaffold
A lot of times I'd try to start fights in the middle of nowhere for some variety and a lightning would show up in 5 seconds to shoot at it
frank ether
I heard they made sundies really overpowered now to compensate for this
umbral scaffold
They got uhhh
frank ether
but its not how I would have gone about it
umbral scaffold
I think a health shield that regenerates, guns that actually clowned on my lightning, people could spawn this portable anti-air shielf
frank ether
they already shove construction down your throats so why couldn't they just make the sunderer turn into some spawn building or whatever, completely removes the need to make sunderers buff as fuck
umbral scaffold
Defending a sunderer fortunately wasn't too bad, but having too many could be ass
Also one of the biggest problems: vehicle upgrades
Vehicles were such a fucking currency dump
umbral scaffold
"How do I stealth the sundy?"
"Ah just spend certs on all 5 tiers of this thing that barely does much the first 4 tiers"
umbral scaffold
Vastly better magrider boost, some armor shit, guns, idfk
frank ether
its a done deal at this point
umbral scaffold
Left me a sour taste in the mouth after a while
frank ether
moving on from that game was the best vidya game decision I have ever made
second to quitting league of legends
umbral scaffold
I wish it was enough to make me want to stay
But between the lag abuse, cloak "working as intended", vehicle certs, insanely skilled players and idfk what else, it reminds me why PvP games are miserable
Which is sad when the game had some really fun emergent fights
Makeshift frontlines were so fun
frank ether
I had my fun, I moved on
midnight totem
planetside
loved planetside
I stopped after they introduced construction though
but in its heyday, it was unrivaled for the sheer amount of chaos
nothing like seeing an armor colum rolling out from the warpgate, engage in pitched battle, hotswap to commando stuff
but I was in a large outfit
we did everything, and I was part of their infantry core
frank ether
I stopped after they introduced construction though
clever
midnight totem
you ever play on US East?
umbral scaffold
make special currency to limit vehicle spawns per player
make construction pad that allows the player to shit out vehicles
🧠
I love burning resources on 12 lightnings in a row for suicidal runs
idle pecan
what makes the rashad axe good
last parcel
imagine power sword with power cycler 500
whole moon
we did everything, and I was part of their infantry core
I was part of a large units Air Corps, transport pilot. I remember those days very well.
midnight totem
what outfit if I may ask?
whole moon
what outfit if I may ask?
I honestly can't remember, we were the purple futuristic dudes w no bullet drop. Early days of streamers and the head dude was a big name. If it comes back to me I'll let you know
whole moon
I may have a YouTube of one of assault assembly prep
faint beacon
36% Pen
ouch
you'd want mobility to be the dump stat and everything else above 69%
umbral scaffold
owie oof oof
faint beacon
aka sadly no
idle pecan
what bout blessings and perks
umbral scaffold
If you got nothing better to use, at least you can slap uncanny and riposte on it
umbral scaffold
That too
faint beacon
God this match was miserable
stay out of coherency gameplay is basically what kept happening
last parcel
bro's never been to #zealot-class 💀
somber axle
They suffered because they didn't have a Veteran
faint beacon
Seriously if you think me posting slight off topic SS’s are bad look at #zealot-class
umbral scaffold
Zealot chat, more like general chat
last parcel
nah not racist enough
faint beacon
General with image perms
faint beacon
nah not racist enough
They’d get banned in a heartbeat
umbral scaffold
I probably have muted channels, but do we even have a general chat?
I think I remember muting it because everyone was a twat
faint beacon
Yeah there is a general
serene bough
Does psyker chat even exist though?
rose ingot
Alright, lasguns people
Of the Kantrael pattern rifles, which is objectively better? Is it a tossup? What traits should I look for when rolling?
Help me out here. I love mine but the stats are bricked and I wanna replace it with something real.
radiant chasm
What rifles, kanty is the brand not the weapon family
Weapon family like infantry lasgun?
rose ingot
Yep, like the Mg 1A
radiant chasm
Cause there is a kanty shotgun that’s the fire shot
radiant chasm
Mkia is the generally better one that hits 2shot bps easily
Mk12 requires a lot of investment to hit 1shot bps or else it’s just a worse mkia
Mk4 is just the bridge between infantry lasguns and recon lasguns, it fires fast
rose ingot
Noted. I’ve really only toyed with the mk1A and I enjoy it a lot. Helbore lasguns are my usual forte
Perks and blessings?
What modifiers can I afford to sacrifice and what should I prioritize?
radiant chasm
Perks and blessings?
Headhunter deadly accurate and it’s elites + maniac or flak i forgot which
Tho i’d double check the pins
Im not as experienced on vet
austere mica
Flak + maniac
wicked epoch
does it look kasrkin enough yet boys
midnight totem
Mkiv arguably is the strongest, but without a good autoclicker your finger will suffer
Looks like you should've died on Cadia
wicked epoch
Mkiv arguably is the strongest, but without a good autoclicker your finger will ...
finger already suffers with the Mk12 infantry
wicked epoch
Looks like you should've died on Cadia
is that a compliment or an insult
midnight totem
Yes
wicked epoch
because cadian hero or the fit so bad i shoulda died
midnight totem
❤️
rose ingot
Xbox player so no auto clicker for me
midnight totem
Nah it's a great fit
wicked epoch
i woulda died protecting creed tbh
rose ingot
midnight totem
It's also modded out to hell
rose ingot
Either of these two worth trying to roll for something good?
wicked epoch
you should see my recon lasgun and power sword
midnight totem
i woulda died protecting creed tbh
Let's be fair. At the rate we're going in Darktide
wicked epoch
midnight totem
A platoon of rejects could take down Abaddon
wicked epoch
A platoon of rejects could take down Abaddon
tbh yeah
my cutthroat straight up said "this is a space marine level threat"
rose ingot
Nice las…cannon?
wicked epoch
it was an attempted hellgun
wicked epoch
"hellgun"
thorn lark
you have any idea what could be the cause of that?
wicked epoch
when that happens to me i just restart so
midnight totem
The 1a is universally regarded as the best infantry lasgun, most balanced in all aspects
thorn lark
i restarted steam twice tho
wicked epoch
which infantry las does the most damage per shot and would do well with infernus?
wicked epoch
i restarted steam twice tho
sshrug
midnight totem
The xii fires a bit too slowly for not enough extra damage gain
But it's still a potent choice. Good marksman weapon
wicked epoch
its my little angel it is
midnight totem
Both are worth rolling. Maybe not using. The stability is oof
wicked epoch
i love how dripped out the 12 can look
rose ingot
Both are worth rolling. Maybe not using. The stability is oof
How critical are certain modifiers?
wicked epoch
maybe if the bolter was capable of being useful for me I'd run it more
rose ingot
Anything I can afford to skimp on?
midnight totem
which infantry las does the most damage per shot and would do well with infernus...
The iv, and also none of them are good with infernus
wicked epoch
Dang
radiant chasm
which infantry las does the most damage per shot and would do well with infernus...
Most damage and goes well with infernus are 2 opposite goals
midnight totem
How critical are certain modifiers?
Ideally, as high damage and stopping power as possible
wicked epoch
Most damage and goes well with infernus are 2 opposite goals
Knockoff hotshot gun is my goal
radiant chasm
Mk12 is most damage but for impactful BPs you need to invest heavily in it
midnight totem
Ammo and stability are more important slice of life side stats
radiant chasm
Mk4 is the
rose ingot
Mobility important or nah?
radiant chasm
Mk4 is the fastest firing and “best” with infernus out of the infantry last guns
midnight totem
Nah
radiant chasm
Mobility important or nah?
Not really unless your melee is also slow asf
midnight totem
Long as it's above 50 percent though
If mobilityvis ever below 50 on a weapon
You lose a dodge
That's the one thing you always want to avoid
wicked epoch
Oh just use a recon
thats what i use, i was hoping if there was a soundmod for it
Because imo the VIIa sounds better
I just like the way it sounds, has the pew and the umph into it
rose ingot
If you have to prioritize perks or blessings, which should you opt for? General question.
radiant chasm
Yea 7a wants dum dum headhunter
radiant chasm
If you have to prioritize perks or blessings, which should you opt for? General ...
Depends on the weapon and the value of the blessings and perks
Some weapons need perks for specific breakpoints
Some weapons need blessings to function at max level
Really is a case by case basis
rose ingot
Rolled a damn nice 1a with Headhunter 3, efficiency 4. Perks I rolled +10% dmg to groaners/poxwalkers, +25% dmg to carapace armored enemies
It won’t be perfect but 3/4 isn’t bad when it’s done
Just curious which I should keep and which I should swap
radiant chasm
You want headhunter plus deadly accurate
And then probably take off groaners for flak or maniac, maybe even unarmored but im pretty sure it’s maniac for 2shotting flamers
rose ingot
Between maniac and flak if I have to prioritize one?
radiant chasm
Between maniac and flak if I have to prioritize one?
Go test
rose ingot
On higher difficulties does one really beat out the other, or are you encountering those enemies about evenly?
radiant chasm
Meat grinder
rose ingot
Doing so right now
rose ingot
BP?
austere prawn
as far as I can tell, it's something you have to just test in the psykhanium
I'm having the damnest time finding a good zarona revolver for my infiltrate build
rose ingot
I feel like maniacs are a greater threat, I’m gonna opt for that
Flak armor I can deal with pretty well just with raw damage
warm swallow
god i love drip
serene bough
Of the Kantrael pattern rifles, which is objectively better? Is it a tossup? Wha...
Generally I think mk4 is better, but it's preference between mk1a and 4
Run HH and ghost
tall torrent
1a hits better breakpoints, 4 has better practical application
warm swallow
man
somber axle
The Mg1a feels so good with an Exe Stance + Marksman's Focus build though
IV is fun for spamming but Mg1a feels like it puts down targets way faster
The rate of fire on the IV is fun but if you're consistently landing heads the Mg1a can better put down multiple specials/elites imo
The ammo economy on the IV is pretty silly though. Even without Headhunter/Shock Trooper it feels like an ammo pool that never runs empty
You can spam it into a horde of non-elite ranged comfortably and never care about ammo concerns
fleet thicket
I thiiiink helbore 4 is like 0.25s
So its 0.3 to 0.35
Basically
I kind of got perfect helbore
Tier 4 onslaught 25% flak and maniac
But unfortunately it's
Surgical 3
rigid pilot
Takes 0.5secomds more to reach 10 stack
fleet thicket
I guess yeah
fleet thicket
Takes 0.5secomds more to reach 10 stack
Man this shit is so busted xD
Bolter wished it was this good
rigid pilot
Uh I think you misread my sentence 
rose ingot
Power swords, yay or nay?
rigid pilot
Yesn't
fleet thicket
Uh I think you misread my sentence <:susgryn:1042377462295830589>
No I mean the weapon
It one taps
Crushers
It's insane
lilac kayak
Power swords, yay or nay?
Nay till I get cycler 4
lilac kayak
Man this shit is so busted xD
Helbore is pretty solid but the delay from melee to range is a bit offputting tbh
umbral scaffold
Power sword already becomes goateded with PC3
It's all it needs to do the funny Mk6 combo
wicked epoch
god i love drip
drip you say
warm swallow
I think i look good
warm swallow
I fuck with that
lucid hinge
finally! properly weighted/symmetrical armor
sharp stag
god i love drip
damn that's a solid one mate!
what's the helmet you're using there if you ont mind me asking?
sharp stag
there's... a store?
i know there's the eagle store or how is it called (i still have to change the game language to english and i'm not really quite sure what's the original name)
warm swallow
The cosmetic store you use aquilas at
sharp stag
and i love the Cadia Stands armor
maybe i'll get it
wicked epoch
i think it looks skinny
sharp stag
The cosmetic store you use aquilas at
oh so it's actually called aquilas, i see
warm swallow
If you take a left right at spawn there is a redhead named hallowette
She sells preem cosmetics
balmy flume
lucid hinge
sadly this rotation is an exact copy of Jan 11th? or december (Iforgot)
pastel yew
Nay till I get cycler 4
mk6 is more than adequate with power cycler 3, as thats all you need to combo combo crushers with it charge > block cancel > shove attack > follow up light
also tbf pc3 is also all either of them need to be good
just 4.. takes em higher
pastel yew
sadly this rotation is an exact copy of Jan 11th? or december (Iforgot)
I mean they gotta rotate sets back in eventually as
otherwise they'd be unpurchaseable IG
pastel yew
I do wish fatshark would just drop the shit rotation store model its so toxic
pastel yew
Team mates are so stupid
what happen
wicked epoch
they hang back and force me to progress the mission with me and my friend
and they call us noobs because we can actually go to the obj?!
they shit talk and i said let me carry u lil bro
and they basically just did nothing the rest of the game and fucked us over
when we had to kill the boss they left us to die and killed the boss themselves
bruh i carried the fuck out of them the whole game
im devran fyi
my buddys meliota
lucid hinge
I mean they gotta rotate sets back in eventually as
I miss vt2 shop system so much
I'm pretty sure the OG steel legion set has yet to come back
And that was like the first shop we got
We've gotten variants but the OG set hasn't come back I'm pretty sure
pastel yew
I'm pretty sure the OG steel legion set has yet to come back
it will only get worse as time goes on
lucid hinge
Yup
pastel yew
the only other game I play that does this is valorant... that game has like 900+ skins now, and you get 4 rotated in a day
and its completely random
wicked epoch
at least toxic players are super rare in darktide, in my experience at least
Dude they straight up res baited me
lucid hinge
Toxicity usually goes down the higher the difficulty, heresy is the worst offender for it
At some point people stop caring
pastel yew
Toxicity usually goes down the higher the difficulty, heresy is the worst offend...
oh yeah heresdy is DEFINITELY the worst for it
I think thats the level where people stagnate though
wicked epoch
Different a bit
I hope those 2 assholes are on this discord or somethint
That way they get a proper chewing out
somber axle
toxicity goes down in higher difficulties because people can usually play solo if they need to and anyone who can't just falls over
it's harder for someone to be toxic because the game will humble people who like to talk but can't dance
dreamy spade
I've seen plenty
One guy was on the mic, he just ran through the map triggering enemies and then goes stealth and starts laughing when teammates die
I tried to kick him but didnt work
somber axle
the best story I've ever heard from someone was an Ogryn saying he ran into a toxic Vet
the Vet kept going down and complaining that the others were doing no damage, not killing anything
Vet died and then the Ogryn asked them how much damage they do while dead
the Vet ragequit LMFAO
I've run into like... 3 toxic people
and I've played on and off since beta
Darktide is a pretty chill community overall (but there was an uptick in people being toxic after Helldivers 2 as a community imploded LOL)
dreamy spade
It's just surprising how people can be toxic on a team game vs BOTS
somber axle
people are naturally competitive and even in a cooperative game it happens
the weirdest toxic person I've ever met was a Zealot who would join into matches, aggro the Daemonhost and then disconnect as the health bar appeared to force it onto another player
we killed the daemonhost
dreamy spade
Well my main infiltrate build helps deal with it lol
dreamy spade
Yeah I've had that happen
Thats just an oversight from fatshark
It should attack the bot they are replaced with
somber axle
the Zealot who used to do it disappeared so I think either they changed their name or stopped playing
I haven't seen anyone do it since
pseudo fiber
The worst I've had was someone who said slurs and called someone bad while also going down a lot themselves.
somber axle
I did have someone trying to backseat drive while I was carrying them
they die, go spectator mode and start trying to critique my gameplay over voice
I told them no backseat driving while dead
they got really mad LOL
austere mica
I can’t remember anyone super toxic
trim hemlock
People typically aren’t toxic. I sometimes throw a tantrum at myself, or type something inappropriate in the chat that isn’t related to my performance, but most games are typically chill
somber axle
the toxic people are mostly in heresy tbh
Damnation, Aurics and Maelstroms tend to be very chill
austere mica
I should do some heresy gaming with a knife zealot
dreamy spade
Nah bruhh
austere mica
See the reactions to first, the build
somber axle
if someone is spending time yapping in text they're probably dead or on their knees about to be
austere mica
And second, to being good with it
somber axle
you don't really have a lot of time to type a paragraph about being mad in an auric
dreamy spade
Maybe its NA servers thats chill be europe is always a shit show
trim hemlock
if someone is spending time yapping in text they're probably dead or on their kn...
Yeah, one typically doesn’t have spontaneous time to type in game that has enemies stepping on your toes constantly lol
austere mica
I’m also in usw
somber axle
almost all of my matches go pretty chill and smooth
most squads are fine
there are people who ragequit/leave but like
they're not toxic about it
trim hemlock
Mine don’t go smooth always, but they are typically chill
dreamy spade
Me (a brit) listening to the greek and turk shout at each other while the Scandinavian is smoking pot and the russian is yapping with his god awful mic
somber axle
almost no one uses voice chat from what I've seen
dreamy spade
I play cs2 too lol
austere mica
I think I had a high wound vet who left after going down like once recently
What the hell is the point of those wounds then?
somber axle
there was a very fun moment where a Zealot RPed over voice and commanded everyone to take a seat in the church and then delivered a sermon while we all crouched in the chairs
then he led us into battle and continued RPing
it was pretty fun to listen to him go off
also some Ogryn RPers doing very convincing Ogryn accents
but generally voice chat feels pretty rare for pugs
austere mica
Yeah
dreamy spade
What the hell is the point of those wounds then?
Martyrdom vet build
austere mica
Had a guy wondering why my knife was obliterating things better than whatever he had
somber axle
I think Zealots are the most toxic in my experience now that I think about it
Ogryns are the most chill
pseudo fiber
Ooh baby with the crafting update that'll go crazy
flat crypt
I think Zealots are the most toxic in my experience now that I think about it
Seeing same trend here in eu
lilac kayak
I think Zealots are the most toxic in my experience now that I think about it
Vets probably neck to neck on that tbh
somber axle
Vets probably neck to neck on that tbh
maybe but toxic players are usually bad players and it's hard to be toxic when the game humbles you regularly for trying to shoot and backpedal LMFAO
bad Vets who blame their teams for their mistakes learn quick or swap class
lilac kayak
maybe but toxic players are usually bad players and it's hard to be toxic when t...
I see vets whining about ogryns body blocking them when shooting all the time
somber axle
I see vets whining about ogryns body blocking them when shooting all the time
they removed that
you can shoot through team mates on all weapons now
you no longer require weapons with cleave
the only thing team mates do is obscure vision but like
just ping the elite/special
you'll see the outline through a player
it used to be a funny thing and generally Ogryns love to push up front to protect the little uns but it also made it awkward because Vets couldn't get a clean shot
my tinfoil hat theory is that Plasma and Zarona Revolver became meta because they both have significant cleave to ignore allies jumping in front of the gun before the patch making other players have no affect on the cleave of your shots
flat crypt
Btw the weapons do full damage when shot through friendlies? I'd say they do but my mate persistently thinks they do reduced damage
somber axle
yes
full damage and friendlies no longer block shots
a player being in front of your gun only obscures your vision and nothing else
austere mica
FF in Darktide would be literal hell
austere mica
Getting your ass blended by standing infront of the CIAG for .2 seconds
pseudo fiber
FF in vermintide was already bad (elf spear players)
somber axle
FF in Darktide would be literal hell
I want it LMFAO
flat crypt
maybe they add FF in future with dt version of cataclysm
somber axle
Smite Psykers would be such a menace
austere mica
There would be so many fucking trolls
mortal orbit
GG ogryn with FF would be a trolls new sunday best
somber axle
the very first thing you'd see if friendly fire was added to a mode
Zealot equips flamethrower and turns it on the Psyker
flat crypt
well, lore accurate tbh
mortal orbit
Lore accurate, flaming the muties
somber axle
Someone RPing a Commissar sees someone go down and instead of picking you up Boltpistols you to death
wise jackal
Ogryn nuke grenade FF
somber axle
Ogryn throws rock and friendly player accidentally runs in front of the rock
flat crypt
"Booom! Heh heh heh ...."
somber axle
This rock is a friendly one! Not to you though
pseudo fiber
FF in vermintide was already bad (elf spear players)
flat crypt
I may or may not have shot multiple times my friend in the back of the head with bounty hunters ult....
wise jackal
I fully support FF being added, because even if they can shoot me, i can shoot them too.
austere mica
Oh BH ults are never considered accidental
flat crypt
mostly accidents honestly... Weirdly they just always seem happen to Kruber after there's been some commentary on my guard being too low or something 🤔
uncut pebble
I'd be more concerned with the kickback ogryn accidentally turning me to hamburger meat.
somber axle
idk that looked goofy from the perspective of walking at someone about to throw a spear even if it was at literally nothing LMFAO
it's like swallowing the end of someone's gun and then being upset when they pull the trigger trying to shoot at something
pseudo fiber
I know him. I've known him for a long time infact. I genuinely think he has just videogame schizophrenia
somber axle
Psyker irl seeing the warp demons in visions...
hollow warren
bromentum is good on a power sword, right?
austere mica
Brutal momentum is good on literally everything
With PS it competes with Sunder though, which allows you to armor slide everything
hollow warren
well I guess Melk smiled upon me today with this
austere mica
Congradulations, you can now fall asleep at your keyboard and still fight horde
hollow warren
Yeehaw
austere mica
Mk6 PS rolled like that isn’t even funny how good it is
It just flattens everything
hollow warren
best 3,300 Melk Bucks I've spent
pseudo fiber
Mk6 PS rolled like that isn’t even funny how good it is
It's so good it's boring lmfao
hollow warren
originally it had 15% block efficiency and Rampage T3
austere mica
I have a very fall asleep at keyboard and solo build
It’s PS6, Plasma, and VoC +Tag and kraks
I could let my cat play
pseudo fiber
4 bots with that build could beat auric maelstrom
pseudo fiber
In a world where they dis
austere mica
Or tag and grenades
hollow warren
It’s PS6, Plasma, and VoC +Tag and kraks
basically the same as the build on my screenshot, but recon gun instead of plasma
austere mica
I am never going to use that again I think
But I will keep it because the plasma and build was my first actual DT build
And I will keep the PS because those ain’t cheap
pastel yew
Congradulations, you can now fall asleep at your keyboard and still fight horde
always found this argument like
super curious
because there's not really any complex melee weapons in the game
they're all just spam button or very basic combo
at least the mk6 power sword has like... unique usage of its push attacks and follow ups that are useful
or provide a different role
austere mica
Yeah but it’s especially sleepy compared to other things
pastel yew
is it?
like compared to what
so many of the weapons optimal horde clear is just light spam
don't get me wrong I'm not arguing the powersword is the paragon of complexity, truly a weapon that only a master could use...
just that its incredibly odd that the power sword receives that flak when even simpler weapons like the rashad n such don't
I wish to understand why its singled out ig, I feel like theres a lot of power sword hate from back when it was insanely busted
vale ledge
thorn lark
I wish to understand why its singled out ig, I feel like theres a lot of power s...
well it can still 2 shot a crusher in less than 2s...
pastel yew
well it can still 2 shot a crusher in less than 2s...
sure though there are pleny of ways of dealing with them faster
and arguably the power sword should be the best at doing that
dueling sword mk4 can do that faster when it has uncanny charged 
rashad is also not all that slow at it either, with 3 to the head fwir
thorn lark
that must be with talents
iron marten
wtf, got this as a drop
