veteran-class

[tall torrent]

Veteran is the “do everything” class

[idle pecan]

Pmao

[tall torrent]

If u want a ranged class that’s Psyker

[junior needle]

I think zealot should be buffed appropriately

[idle pecan]

Vet went from being the best, to the worst. Back to the best

[elder fiber]

zealot has conditional buffs, vet has a lot up 24/7 and then stuff like the dmg after ult buffs

[umbral scaffold]

Psyker is not a ranged class, it's also a do everything class

[elder fiber]

vet was never the worst

[gilded wraith]

Max ranged damage class ogryn or psyker?

[tall torrent]

Psyker is definitely more ranged than veteran generally speaking

[thorn lark]

vet has stable melee dmg and zealot has burst melee dmg

[tall torrent]

Veteran has burst melee Dmg u just run all 3 red nodes

[thorn lark]

so yeah, zealot is the assault class

[gilded wraith]

Zealot with dueling sword would be humorous.

[thorn lark]

but you need a ult

[elder fiber]

give it to vet for all the commisar cosplayers

[tall torrent]

Zealot does too tho

[thorn lark]

it's not like sustainable assault or momentum

ok martyrdom gives you dmg, but at a price

[tall torrent]

Sustained assault is pretty much always up it’s literally headtaker lite

[hearty panther]

no its better

[tall torrent]

Vet with 3 red nodes is +20% power, +15% close Dmg and +10% dmg

[thorn lark]

i usually run one red node

so that may explain my experience

[tall torrent]

Run 2

[idle pecan]

Does weapon specialist worj

I saw that the crit only applies to the first shot

[tall torrent]

That’s the intended effect

And it’s still really strong

[idle pecan]

So you get 5 seconds of the first shot being a crit

[umbral scaffold]

Honestly not really

[idle pecan]

I thought it was 5s of crits

💀

5s of crits sounds busted now that I think about it

[elder fiber]

5 seconds of crit on columnus would be pretty funny

[umbral scaffold]

With kinetic deflection, half a second of stamina delay and goated finesse weapons, psyker does very well in the thick of things

[tall torrent]

Yes it’s just that psyker usually ends up using ranged tools more than veteran does

[umbral scaffold]

All it asks in return is a more aware player because psyker's defense is very polar

[tall torrent]

Never said psyker is bad in melee or anything

Psyker’s melee is so strong he only has like 4 melee weapons

[umbral scaffold]

Taking toughness and health values, and even certain defensive nodes on psyker, their defenses are kind of ass

The moment the player starts making solid use of KD, dodges and the stamina delay to abuse pushes, psyker is a murder machine disguised as a bar of soap

[stiff glacier]

Psyker is the glass cannon

[umbral scaffold]

I can't do justice to the amount of times I just danced through a crowd completely immune to damage

[stiff glacier]

And then got hit 2 time by pox walker and died

[gilded rock]

Kinetic deflection letting me tank a mauler overhead:

[stiff glacier]

Kinetic deflection is definitely large part of it

Altho

I have used it the least

[tall torrent]

Yea but that doesn’t change what I said is true tho

[thorn lark]

Maybe I should go keystoneless again

[tall torrent]

Nah

[bold belfry]

Bolter so good when you don't have a bitch in your ear telling you it's bad

[stiff glacier]

I use keystones only in 1 build with vet

Cant afford them in any others

[tall torrent]

What are ur other builds

[stiff glacier]

1 is just shotgun exec stance build, plasma gun grenade spam build, "normal" exec stance build with lasgun and the stealth melee focus vet

[marble mantle]

Mmmmmmm weapon specialist

[hearty panther]

no one wants to admit their shots are short

[marble mantle]

Make me go ooh la la ooh yeah

[tall torrent]

If u take plasma you should go FT

[stiff glacier]

Only my squadleader has the target tagging keystones

Mostly cus its almost entirely middle tree

[tall torrent]

Plasma wants FT for breakpoints

[marble mantle]

🤯

[stiff glacier]

With left side for ammo

[tall torrent]

What does ur tree look like

[marble mantle]

How many times am I gonna get a train ran on me trying to get this rashad bro

Every single one has either been 300 or 360 with dump stat first target

I’m gonna

[tall torrent]

Many more times

Just save resources for when crafting update drops lol

[stiff glacier]

Basically entire middle tree but after voc i take left side weakspot damage and extra spare ammo

[marble mantle]

It’s making me sweat out of the areas you don’t wanna sweat from

[junior haven]

hes gonna. watch out.

[marble mantle]

Nahhh I ain’t waiting 3 months

I got time to kill

And weapons to obtain

[marble mantle]

You get it

[thorn lark]

Last time I played with boltgun I had someone said wait I thought bolter was bad, reddit said so

[stiff glacier]

Ive just found plasma doesnt feel to require anything building around

[marble mantle]

So real

[stiff glacier]

It just haymakers all

[tall torrent]

Then go for smth else tbh

[stiff glacier]

Leftclickining

[marble mantle]

I shall

Since you told me too

I’m a good soldier

[tall torrent]

U can make a good shock maul for way cheaper than Rashad

[bold belfry]

Yes the weapon that can delete anything infront of you is bad, amazing take thank you reddit

[marble mantle]

Already got a good shock maul

Gonna work on chaxe4

[tall torrent]

If ur going for chainaxe, it’s kinda better on zealot imo

It fits zealot’s needs more than veteran’s needs

[marble mantle]

I am shrimply a vet

Doing vet things

Yk what I’ll take a clip of all my weapons and u can tell me what I should get next out of my options

[idle swallow]

Going mk4 chainsword with rampage/shred is always a favorite of mine

[umbral scaffold]

Ironically my strongest vet build didn't use keystones

I would make the path to melee attack speed, tactical awareness and elite damage

[tall torrent]

What does the tree look like

[umbral scaffold]

Also would get longshot, out for blood, extra krak nades

[tall torrent]

Why longshot

[umbral scaffold]

Very pretty

[tall torrent]

[umbral scaffold]

Idk I like longshot for the funny damage

[tall torrent]

You do realize that longshot got nerfed and it’s basically not worth taking anymore right

[austere mica]

I never liked longshot anyway

Something that relies on distance in this game is super unreliable

[umbral scaffold]

Usually when you start a question with "you do realize", you already have the answer

[austere mica]

I also hate Killzone but the alternative is somehow worse

[umbral scaffold]

But no, I wasn't aware it got nerfed, or how it did

[tall torrent]

u picked it for it looking pretty or smth ig

[umbral scaffold]

Far as I remember, it helped me one-shot reapers

[tall torrent]

What weapons & what talent tree

[umbral scaffold]

I'm on my phone

[tall torrent]

Yea u can make the talent tree in gameslantern

Besides

If u needed longshot of all things to 1 tap reaper

Focus target would have done the same

[umbral scaffold]

But I don't want to because my phone already shits itself from typing

[tall torrent]

So idk how keystoneless makes it better

[umbral scaffold]

Focus target is annoying to use

[tall torrent]

Take redirect fire

[umbral scaffold]

I'm not a fan of tagging for damage tbh

[tall torrent]

It’s still better than longshot of all things

[umbral scaffold]

It makes me feel pressured to tag everything I'm about to shoot instead of just shooting

[tall torrent]

If u take redirect fire u don’t need to tag every single enemy to still maintain breakpoint

U just tag the important ones

[umbral scaffold]

But I need to tag occasionally and I'm still forced to tag, as opposed to tagging for convenience or to warn teammates

[tall torrent]

Just tag stuff naturally and you get benefits

[umbral scaffold]

The more I play the game, the less I tag, ironically

I just "he's there, pew" and move on

[tall torrent]

[umbral scaffold]

And ideally, if I can tag the enemy, I have line of sight for a shot

It's a weird development for the mechanic

[tall torrent]

Even still you can just have redirect fire give the breakpoint by playing normally

I just don’t see how longshot can be better unless u specifically refuse to tag anything which is definitely one of the choices of all time

[fresh moth]

I’m new, whats the point of the veteran and what strategy I should try to follow?

[umbral scaffold]

If I want to keep redirect fire up, I need to tag constantly and have the tag die, which I find inconvenient

[tall torrent]

Redirect fire lasts 10s, you have plenty of time to tag smth else and kill it

Or tag it and teammates kill it

I don’t see how it can be so inconvenient

[umbral scaffold]

Longshot is always active past a certain distance, which is usually when I get specials

[tall torrent]

Longshot is also way less dmg most of the time

[umbral scaffold]

I just need the damage I find necessary

[tall torrent]

Then yea redirect fire is better

Works at all ranges, very passive benefit

[umbral scaffold]

But I don't find its damage worth the inconvenience

[tall torrent]

What’s so inconvenient about tagging smth once every 10s

[umbral scaffold]

It makes the game less enjoyable to me

[bold belfry]

See spiky man, shoot spiky man

[umbral scaffold]

I don't want to track seconds in the back of my head

[elder fiber]

you don't have to track anything

[umbral scaffold]

I want to click the funny guy on my screen

[tall torrent]

Veteran’s main gameplay style is is “kill everything” and his overall gameplay strategy is “kill everything as fast as you possibly can”

[umbral scaffold]

I do if I don't tag everything

[tame lodge]

You should follow the strategy of keeping yourself alive and not wasting bullets, you'll need all of them

[umbral scaffold]

A lot of times I just shoot and move on, because to me the tag serves the function of seeing the outline, or calling a target out to people

[fresh moth]

No sparing the heretics?

[tall torrent]

No mercy

[austere mica]

Vets general roll is shooting important things, or having cracked melee for some reason (if you build it)

[tall torrent]

I guess this depends on what ur keybind for tag is

[umbral scaffold]

If those two aren't necessary, I often don't tag and just surgically remove someone's head

[tall torrent]

Or if you’re used to tagging stuff

[umbral scaffold]

I have it on T

[thorn lark]

m2 tagging is better

[umbral scaffold]

I used to tag a lot, but eventually I realized I didn't need to compulsively tag

[austere mica]

I tag on side mouse

[thorn lark]

block, tag, riposte, kill

[tall torrent]

M2 tag’s problem is that it’s still not as within control as having a separate keybind

[umbral scaffold]

My mouse is LMB for shooties, RMB for aimies, back side for keep swinging and front side for special

[tall torrent]

I have mine on 3

[tame lodge]

Suffer not the elites/specialists

[tall torrent]

Both are available at the same time

[thorn lark]

i miss one or two side button tbh, 2 is not enough for all my need

[austere mica]

Yes

But they can't do that yet

[tall torrent]

Veteran’s job is rly just “kill everything as fast as u can”

[tall torrent]

Oh if u don’t have side buttons then yea that’s understandable

[umbral scaffold]

I got used to playing dueling sword psyker, so I internalized rushing at anything glowing in the dark and poking its head

[thorn lark]

well, one for special and one for dodges 🥲

[tall torrent]

I have mine binded to number 3

It’s very easily reachable regardless of what I’m doing

[tall torrent]

Why not space for dodge actually

[thorn lark]

i use it for junping

[tall torrent]

I have jump on a mouse side button

[thorn lark]

and i was already using the mouse button is vermintide

[tall torrent]

Just because it’s so underutilized in this game

Only times I jump are to mantle over stuff

[umbral scaffold]

I use jump and dodge in the same key and the mod to stop dodge jumps

I used to have dodge and crouch on spacebar

It was an experience

Apparently it actually breaks iframes

[thorn lark]

also i have a lot of hours in darktide and i don't think i will be able to unlearn that side mouse button is for dodges

[thorn lark]

that was my setup a first on the mouse... i took less dmg when i stopped doing that

like waaaaay less

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah, I think the effect that cuts enemy targeting on you gets nullified when crouching

I was eating so much shit with it

I also put crouch on alt

I needed to stop pathologically sliding

Now I only slide forward

[tall torrent]

LAlt sprint, C crouch/slide, space dodge

[thorn lark]

so you slide away from sliding

[umbral scaffold]

The downside is it's harder for me to crouch behind cover when needed

But honestly it barely comes up in matches

Easier to turn around and sprint or slide

If I'm taking damage, it just means I'm not close enough to shove a sword in someone's mouth

Non-sexually in Minecraft

[thorn lark]

i just press F, it's magic

[tall torrent]

Just make a keybind where u can do everything u need to do with ease

[marble mantle]

Every single action on left click

[umbral scaffold]

Mind-controlled keybind

Eye tracking software that alters the key depending on where I'm looking on the screen

Would be interesting ngl

[thorn lark]

ctrl = crouch, shift = sprint... so i can press shift wity my pinky and mash ctrl just after

[umbral scaffold]

Look down to crouch, up to jump, side to dodge

[thorn lark]

one finger to slide them all

[tall torrent]

DT doesn’t have that many inputs where u can’t make a keybind set-up where there’re things difficult to do

[umbral scaffold]

I used to do one finger until Warframe

The movement there fucked my dog and killed my mother

[thorn lark]

i put blitz on Q.... thats so much better for throwing knives

[umbral scaffold]

I got tired of slamming my pinky

Oh, definitely

[tall torrent]

I don’t use pinky for my keybinds even

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/peaky-blinders-gif-25113255

[old quail]

i think i have all but push to talk, tag, and jump as default binds

[marble mantle]

Holy shit it’s pinky binders

[umbral scaffold]

Knives actually make me want a quick blitz key

Quick assail, quick grenade, quick rock

[thorn lark]

Q all the way

[umbral scaffold]

Honest to God would make assail feel so fucking good

I should macro it for a match

[tall torrent]

I have Q as “move left”

[old quail]

horrific

[thorn lark]

what

[umbral scaffold]

HOW

[bold belfry]

What the fuck is wrong with you

[thorn lark]

it's jsat or crab lvl of depravity

[old quail]

tinyangrycrab has some degenerate keybinds iirc

jsat has foot pedals dude

i respect him

[thorn lark]

crab has ads on spacebar

[old quail]

oh yeah it's ads not shoot

that's on spacebar

[tall torrent]

WQSD is more natural to me (I played piano for 11 years) than WASD which literally hurt my hands if I play for too long

It’s basic ergonomics

[thorn lark]

yeah but his explanation is quite logical tbh

[old quail]

yeah it makes sense i just think it's ungodly

[thorn lark]

i should try it once, in the psyk

[shadow urchin]

I am so glad I never have to mess with keybinds.

[bold belfry]

Fair enough but I'm still gonna call you weird

[old quail]

the more important thing to me is muscle memory so i just don't fuck with keybinds unless the game has them set up really bad

castle crashers i think by default on pc has all your attacks set to like e and q n shit

instead of using mouse buttons

[thorn lark]

god i forgot about that...

[umbral scaffold]

I think it's easier to stretch my finger to hit Q and E, than to curl it for A and D

[old quail]

i played it for about 5 mins before i was like "this is the worst configuration known to man"

[umbral scaffold]

So WASD it is

[shadow urchin]

Then again, I did end up beating Dark Souls (not the remaster) with only my keyboard. I think the camera controls were like, I and J?

[umbral scaffold]

drkslsi

[tall torrent]

I basically just swap A and Q

Everything else works normally

[shadow urchin]

Most folks partied in college. I played accursed dark souls PC port

[umbral scaffold]

Honestly same

[old quail]

freddy fish is peak gaming

been all downhill since... i think it was 1997 or smth it came out

[thorn lark]

i just realized what you meant by looking at my kb... omfg dude

[umbral scaffold]

I used to play a legal copy of drkslsptde in high school

[shadow urchin]

Blew my mind when I learned there were alt paths in that game. That and Pajama Sam.

[tall torrent]

Are u gonna be a WQSD enjoyer now

[umbral scaffold]

The camera controls were horrible

[shadow urchin]

I also had that one game where you had to face your nightmares but I never beat it

[thorn lark]

well if only i did not have blitz on q

[umbral scaffold]

It causes me to understand why Japanese websites look like they got stuck in the '90s

[tall torrent]

Just swap A and Q tbh it’s not that complicated

[old quail]

i cant give up swap on q

[thorn lark]

but it's better for my hand to use q than a

[tall torrent]

And I can promise it’ll feel way better in ergonomics

[old quail]

i dont wanna fucking DESTROY my brain while i get used to it

[tall torrent]

Brain dmg or carpal tunnel, pick one

[umbral scaffold]

Mindbreak

[thorn lark]

already fucked

[old quail]

do not utter these words in my presence

[umbral scaffold]

Wait, WASD is unhealthy?

I mean, keyboard is shit, but

[thorn lark]

but now ctrl and shift are a bit harder

[tall torrent]

Literally try playing WQSD (Q being left) for 5 minutes and you’ll notice how it’s immediately feeling better for ur hands

[tall torrent]

Yea ctrl and shift are bad keybinds too

[umbral scaffold]

Honestly, I was wanting to try ESDF

[thorn lark]

next week path is gonna make me type using dvorak

[umbral scaffold]

I might end up trying ERTF

[tall torrent]

That’s the same thing as WASD just moved by 1 space

WQSD is better because for most people, ring & middle fingers are on same level when relaxed

Instead of having ring finger be in this really awkward spot down to left from middle finger (which is what WASD is)

[umbral scaffold]

I should change it and instantly jump on auric with psyker

[tall torrent]

Nah qwerty is fine I just think WASD is bad

[umbral scaffold]

What about moving back?

[tall torrent]

S

It’s very easy for middle finger to go from W to S

[thorn lark]

i learned using azerty because I'm from France

[tall torrent]

Damn that’s crazy

[umbral scaffold]

I mean, wouldn't that be a bit annoying?

[thorn lark]

and i still prefer to type using Qwerty

[tall torrent]

I mean, isn’t WASD also using middle finger for S?

Unless you’re biologically constructed differently

[shadow urchin]

Nightmare Ned! That was the game

[umbral scaffold]

I use these bitches no cap ong

My previous W key was sliced in half by friction

[tall torrent]

Idk how a normal human can have his ring, middle & index fingers rest in this kind of position

[umbral scaffold]

I think the middle and ring are bad

Index fits okay there

[tall torrent]

Yea

[umbral scaffold]

Human hands are shit

[hollow warren]

ogryn hands better

[umbral scaffold]

WQSD

[tall torrent]

This is way better

[pastel yew]

?... you ... cant?

honestly the positioning for that feels

identical to me

[umbral scaffold]

I'm gonna fucking EWDF today gamers

[tall torrent]

If u position ur body slightly canted towards the keyboard, u can

[hollow warren]

[tall torrent]

[umbral scaffold]

And if that doesn't work, I'll WQSD

[pastel yew]

if you don't use your arrow keys for movement

[hollow warren]

HERESY

[pastel yew]

you're not a real gamer

[umbral scaffold]

Tbh it's actually a solid angle

Unorthodox, but makes sense

[tall torrent]

Arrow keys are better than WASD in terms of position

[pastel yew]

if you're left handed

sure

[umbral scaffold]

The hand won't be straight doing it, but that's usually the case

[marble mantle]

Why your fingers so short

[pastel yew]

though then you don't have access to your other keys

[tall torrent]

WQSD? Yea

[pastel yew]

honesly the dream is to get one of those

mmo mice

and use those buttons to move

[tall torrent]

Normally at resting position ring & middle are same level

Which is why WASD just feels so wack

[marble mantle]

Inch long fingers

[shadow urchin]

I gently place my hand on the mouse.

Immediately, my computer explodes as I press 16 buttons at once.

[marble mantle]

(Zero object permanence)

[austere mica]

Vets I swear

[tall torrent]

Bricked gg

[shadow urchin]

Imagine fingerless gloves but the finger sleeves are longer than your fingers. Fingerful gloves

And just like that, finger no longer looks like a real word to me.

Fring the finger flinger flings fingers.

[pastel yew]

I wish there was

an easy way to know how much damage dot stacks did

like you just have to test it

[tall torrent]

Yea u download scoreboard plugins

[pastel yew]

nah I mean like

uhh

if I wanted to know for example, how much damage 7 bleed stacks would do

[tall torrent]

Idk

[pastel yew]

but the stacking is weird

and its also health dependant

[tall torrent]

I don’t rly think about breakpoints from DOT

[tall torrent]

No it’s just dependent on enemy’s core Armor type

[pastel yew]

I think the only time it'd be worth doing is bolt pistol anyway

[tall torrent]

And dmg stacks exponentially up

[pastel yew]

from what I'm aware the bolt pistol does make some new breakpoints with the bleed but

that might be more relevant on the zealot

unsure unsure

[tall torrent]

Needs puncture IV

[pastel yew]

yeah I mean

most dot blessings are significantly better at 4 than 3

I am kinda sad that we didnt get any kind of burn

given incendiary bolt shells are a thing and are very cool

[bold belfry]

Ehhh, specialist bolt rounds are only really an astartes thing tbh

[thorn lark]

just shoot a barrel

[pastel yew]

nah?

[marble mantle]

Oh to be an astartes

[pastel yew]

I mean we know they've taken some inspiration from the dark heresy ttrpg

and they're a thing in that

[bold belfry]

Not saying exclusively but the majority of them are, and even then specialist ammunition isn't really gonna be handed out to rejects

[pastel yew]

I mean you wouldnt expect bolt guns in general to be handed out to em but

hey ho

I guess by 30 you're official warband though

[shadow urchin]

Could be a bolter MK, no?

[crimson pebble]

You are and to mention wed also have both a rogue traders and inquisitions lvl of armament provided to us is my reasoning for the tier of shit we get to have

[shadow urchin]

Are there any weapons with innate dot? Theres the dragons breath shotgun and flamer, of course. Is that it?

Purge staff is like psyker flamer.

[pastel yew]

I dont think so no, at least not that isnt coming from blessings or skills

[bold belfry]

I mean I guess but aren't all the weapons ingame basically whatever the warband can get their hands on to the point where a lot of it is repurposed?

[tall torrent]

If u count scourge and serrated blade then a lot of melee weapons have innate dot

[pastel yew]

I think so, but its not like this is bad quality gear

[bold belfry]

No, but it's not exactly top of the line either

[tall torrent]

The boltguns in DT are used by arbites

And considering we have enforcer Armor in the game now it’s not rly out of place

[bold belfry]

Yeah and arbites wouldn't really have any need of specialist ammo tbh

[tall torrent]

@thorn lark @umbral scaffold do let me know how ur keybind experiments go

[thorn lark]

i will let you know in 2 or 3 hours

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/tears-smile-frog-pepe-laughing-gif-15829340

[pastel yew]

I guess it depends

I dont massively think of the skins as being cannon

but I'm not opposed to us having higher level gear since we work under the inquisition

post lvl 30 is the real game imo

[radiant chasm]

IE how we get the skins is from hallowette's black/grey market contacts

and the "lore reason" we have a rotation as in 2 weeks she will run out of stock (completely stupid reasoning)

[tall torrent]

All skins are canon

[bold belfry]

I mean one of the dialogue options mentions she trades with xenos so maybe affiliated with a rogue trader in some way

[radiant chasm]

okay no offense, but hallowette is part of brahm's crew, Brahm's seneschal specifically, so she is def affiliated with rogue traders

[bold belfry]

Tbh brahm is barely mentioned I forgot she even existed

[tall torrent]

She yaps in mourningstar all day

Brahms is a professional yapper first, rogue trader second

[radiant chasm]

she's old enough and with a good enough crew, she doesn't need to personally oversee much anymore besides reminding hallowette to do the more boring paperwork part of being a seneschal

gives her a lot of yapping time

[bold belfry]

I tune out a lot of the dialogue aboard the mourningstar tbh since it's just the same lines over and over again

[marble mantle]

Either of these worth upgrading or nah

[little fog]

Brahms a Rogue Trader?

[marble mantle]

Tbf I don’t need perfect

I just want workable

[tall torrent]

Yea

[little fog]

First one is good.

[marble mantle]

Bet

[radiant chasm]

YES lol

[tall torrent]

1st yea

[little fog]

Thought she was a shipmistress and that Alice was the rogue trader.

[radiant chasm]

she is the one who had the mourningstar, grendyl simply commandeered it

alice is brahm's seneschal aka steward

[tall torrent]

Rogue trader is the shipmistress

[little fog]

Fair enough.

The more you know.

[little fog]

I work the Rashad and it works with Brutal Momentum and headtaker.

Good all rounder heavy hitter.

[thorn lark]

TIL

[little fog]

Makes sense.

[swift bear]

this worth buying for september?

[bold belfry]

Not really tbh

[feral stratus]

Which one looks better? I want to give Atrox axes a try

[swift bear]

ok thanks

second one looks better

[austere mica]

Second, and by a lot

[feral stratus]

Aight, what blessing am i looking for the second one?

[tall torrent]

2nd

[tall torrent]

BM/Headtaker/shred

[feral stratus]

Well, looks good

Just gonna change the perks and i think it's good

[tall torrent]

Carapace is fine

[neat pilot]

brunt and hadron were really feeling it today

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[tall torrent]

[severe gale]

neither would thunder hammers, powerswords

bolters

plasma guns

[hidden torrent]

Nothing is worth buying only use your bare hands

[midnight totem]

hows vet chat today

[idle swallow]

😢

[midnight totem]

brick'd

[marble mantle]

Is raking fire bad for cviag

Feel like it’d be pretty good

[tall torrent]

It’s alr

[marble mantle]

This bricked then? Lemme know

Sorry for the shit quality it’s not uploading

[tall torrent]

This is getting close to CCTV security camera footage in terms of visual clarity

[marble mantle]

Yeaaah my bad

[tall torrent]

It’s prob fine tho

U can’t rly brick Columnus mk5

[marble mantle]

Took a quick pic with my phone and I guess I didn’t steady it

[marble mantle]

So, should I just change the perks then?

[tall torrent]

I’d still get dumdum over deathspitter

[marble mantle]

And replace stam or unarmored?

Maybe could keep unarmored for, what was it, sniper heads?

[tall torrent]

Either, up to u

[marble mantle]

Probably stam, don’t really need more since I have two +3s

[radiant chasm]

you want dum dum+ deathspitter iirc

[bold belfry]

Picked up the boltgun again and just hipfiring it into groups / tough enemies just like the god-emperor intended

[marble mantle]

Yeah

Will probably do dumdum over raking, and either flak or maniac over stam

Does anyone have an enemy armor anatomy chart or something?

I need to start like actually learning it

[midnight totem]

nice

[slow spade]

Its somewhere

I know I've seen like 3 different ones floating around

Ah yup

Check pins

[tall torrent]

The only body parts that matter are weakspot & core

Weakspot is what u should be hitting, and core is what your DOT will be hitting

Only “exception” to this rule is that reapers have unyielding as core but wears flak Armor so in some rare cases you might want to consider that

[marble mantle]

Ok I think I get it

I’m assuming all weakspots are not just the head

And where can I learn what enemies have what armor on their weakspot?

[terse idol]

Most are head

With like, maulers being an exception

Where they're weaker in the body

And the BoN with yhe weakpoint on their back

[terse idol]

Shoot every enemy in the psycanarium and see what armour they have

Most notable with Reapers with varying armours

Crushers are carapace in every square inch

[umbral scaffold]

Reaper has wacky carapace bits

[terse idol]

Yeah

Like wrist gauntlets iirc

Of cara

[radiant chasm]

all weakspots are the head besides beast of nurgle, but that isn't always their weakest spot depending your weapons ADMs

[umbral scaffold]

Usually the enemies will have an armor type that, despite a possibly lower modifier, will be compensated for with headshot damage

So your gun might be better against flak than maniac, but hitting the head is better anywah

Y

[marble mantle]

Bruh I just got kicked for the first time for literally no reason 😭

Fkn wild

[marble mantle]

Ahh okay thanks

[fading yarrow]

Is this worth nabbing?

Aight, just as well that the game has finally caught onto the fact that the Xbox servers are down and has stopped working just as I ask lol

[tall torrent]

I can send u my guide

[tall torrent]

Maulers still have head as weakspot, it’s just better armored

[marble mantle]

Please do thank you

[umbral scaffold]

I'll send mine

Click head, don't die, be xenophobic

Thank you

[tall torrent]

Check dm

[umbral scaffold]

Fuck the Tau

This is not an endorsement for innuendos

[astral pike]

Got a question for some of the pro's. Im been chasing around builds for Auric Maelstrom Vet's and I cant seem to find anything thats current and good. My white whale atm is trying to get the 5 missions in a row without dying and its killin me

[marble mantle]

This is usually what I run but take it with a grain of salt

[astral pike]

What about weapons and what not?

[marble mantle]

Tbh I kinda just run whatever but with what I’m doing I’m mostly running knife and then whatever else range I want

Columnus 5 iag rn

[astral pike]

Aight, ty, and id be happy to hear any other builds people have to offer

[marble mantle]

No prob

Wish there were more backpacks available

Not a whole lot of variety means not a whole lot of matching

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1262900244018888704/image.png?ex=669aea01&is=66999881&hm=5b3cddd1ca43c6569e66751e97d78012047344a0548034fbbd7086cb51d92cc4&

try some variation of this

[midnight totem]

alrighty, anybody up for a game?

[astral pike]

What weapons and perks would you suggest?

[fleet thicket]

Man we need more shotgun gameplay

Although I feel like lawbringers shotgun still feels weird to me

I think it got extra cleave

[gilded rock]

Double barrel does not satisfy?

[tall torrent]

what weapons do u have

[fleet thicket]

No

It can't aim

The other 3 shotguns can work sniper rifles

[astral pike]

A bit of everything , but if I gotta play weapon roulettes then I will

[tall torrent]

rashad axe + zarona revolver are best veteran weapons rn

[fleet thicket]

Isn't it plasma ?

I thought zarona was best on zealot

[amber ether]

5% stability vraks3

[astral pike]

Ive been using quickfire I think, its been really solid

[radiant chasm]

kicks like a space mule

[astral pike]

Il take a look, and what perks?

[tall torrent]

BM (must have) + headtaker (must have), unarmored (must have) + carapace
hand cannon (must have) + surgical, elite + maniac

[astral pike]

And curios?

[tall torrent]

get 200+ health and 20% sniper resist, everything else up to u

gunner resist, stamina regen, sprint efficiency, extra health & toughness are best imo

[astral pike]

interesting, ty

[astral pike]

Should I just get 1 20% sniper resist? I feel like anything more might be overkill

[pastel yew]

yeah just

I'm not a fan of their special kill speed

it feels fairly lacking compared to other weapons that also cleave well anyway

[thorn dragon]

is this worth keeping? Dunno what to reroll

[pastel yew]

I mean its never going to be perfect

but it won't be terrible

unyielding is fun on the recons though given the buffs you can stack to get good boss weakspot damage

ideally I think you want headhunter and dum dum for your blessings

though there are a few different options for whats good

[thorn dragon]

I was suprised when i saw the flak and unyielding damage was the same on the breakdown

[pastel yew]

I would swap salvo for dum dum or headhunter for sure though

then its really down to whether you'd rather change unarmored to maniac damage, or your other blessing to infernus, one of the two I just mentioned or something else

[tall torrent]

just one is enough

[thorn lark]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1e5lz9k/new_hacker_shotgun_what_blessings_and_is_it/

never stop reddit never

[pastel yew]

whats the point of all that cleave?

I tried it on my hardest difficulty

uprising

and theres never anything else to shoot anyway

1/10 blessing

trash, never good

[thorn lark]

i do feel like manstopper is kinda a pretty situational party trick tho

insanely useful when the conditions are right, but i was doing already very well with ds + bb

[radiant chasm]

yea, it's kinda like lawby

it's fun and great when it works, but it's still niche

[warped gazelle]

KEP

KEEEP

[thorn dragon]

keept

[thorn lark]

damn, at least someone is thinking straight

[radiant chasm]

thinking straight

who is this someone cause it isn't me

[thorn lark]

[pastel yew]

I mean its a case of it's always good with weapon specialist

which is where the gun is already strongest

and the situations where it really shines are where you really need something to do good because the situations fucked

[radiant chasm]

yea and unlike the crucian interaction, it's not possibly a bug/unethical

wspec manstopper sounds great

[pastel yew]

not sure I'd run it outside of ws

maybe for crit zealot

[radiant chasm]

how does true aim work with hacker?

each pellet count as a headshot? could go DD scriers shotgun

[thorn lark]

30% base crit is a bit low, unless you go scatter + manstopper

[radiant chasm]

prob gonna need both barrels

[pastel yew]

god imagine

that'd be so fucking funny

I would say "no way"

[radiant chasm]

i mean, void true aim interaction

[pastel yew]

but we've all seen the spaghetti code of this game at play

[radiant chasm]

has been in the game since patch 13

[pastel yew]

don't tell me..

[radiant chasm]

double barrel using it wouldn't even be in the top 50% of broken interactions

[pastel yew]

it counts every head you go through

for generation

[radiant chasm]

yes

[pastel yew]

good lord

[thorn lark]

that's how exhil takedown works iirc

[radiant chasm]

if you don't get bullied by some random melee trash, certain long hallways/chokes on maps with void is basically just a serotonin printer

yea i think zealot would need manstopper+scattershot, then you go blazing piety and have scourge stacked on the side, combat blade covers armor anyway and throwing knives will save ammo vs low tier specs and elites

[thorn lark]

scryer db shotgun is fun too

[pastel yew]

is there any efficient way to farm +3 stam curios

I swear they're like

ludicrous in their rarity

I wonder if like... the melk slot machine might finally be worth

just buy a bajillion random curios

[old finch]

I've seen them in the rotating blue/green/gray junk shop a few times

usually at green

like they're rare there but not uber rare, I think most people just don't even bother looking at that shop though

[radiant chasm]

melk slot machine really only way

if you don't wanna wait

[frank ether]

Its more about you making it work than the weapons tbh

[thorn lark]

don't forget you need a 76 ranked +3 stam curio

75 +3 curios are in fact +2 stam in game

but appears as +3 in the psykh

enjoy your hunt 😄

[frank ether]

wait, really?

lmao

[thorn lark]

yep

[frank ether]

god

please tell me they're fixing this in itemization update lmao

what the fuck

either way I guess one more thing I have to warn people about

[rare bough]

what the fuck, that should be a crime

[thorn lark]

i have learnt that the hard way

[uncut pebble]

try to play darktide
teammates run ahead and die to like 20 maulers and crushers

Like, do they not have ears? Can they not see what they're walking into?

[wicked epoch]

lmao i had to babysit level 14 and 16s when i was playing heresy

they just acted like lore accurate guardsmen

cannon fodder

[faint beacon]

I have to fucking babysit players on Auric sometimes its just mentally exhausting when shit like that happens lmao

[wicked epoch]

that is rough my guy

Its sad when the bots are more competent

I wish there was a mod that allowed me to have the bots just be clones of me

Or other builds

That way i dont have to get the dummies or the INSANELY OVERPOWERED PSYKER BUILDS

[flat crypt]

and that happens always when trying to get those missions without anyone dying

[wicked epoch]

i hate it when insanely overpowered psykers just come in and take fucking everything

[frank ether]

Guess we must be going somewhere

if the average players are waking up to the fact that psykers make this game unfuckingplayable lmao

Only took one year but we're getting somewhere

[wicked epoch]

dude i fucking swear its annoying

my score gets burnt to the ground because of some no life psyker

[frank ether]

The thing I despise the most is like

not even the scoreboard

or trivializing the difficulty

none of that

nono

its my eyes

[wicked epoch]

yeah sure free resources, but i just want to fucking have fun

[frank ether]

they hurt

my eyes hurt

from the particle soup

[wicked epoch]

Its not even the particle soup for me

its the constant fucking killstealing

[faint beacon]

Thank god for a mod that tones down those particles OR straight up removes them

[frank ether]

I walk into a poxwalker horde and next thing I know a psyker shits out the blue piss all over my face

and I get a headache within 20 minutes

[wicked epoch]

i hate it when i magdump my bolter intoa mauler or a rager horde and all of the credit goes to the psyker

because he did the little stun bullshit

[frank ether]

would you mind sharing the mods name?

[faint beacon]

one second

[wicked epoch]

The shields are nice and all but i swear 99% of my animosity goes towards the killstealing

if your that fucking good

go play auric damnation

And let me enjoy standard heresy in peace where im in my skill level

[somber axle]

hey so weird question but like

[frank ether]

I think psykers in general need a rework regarding peril

vermintide had this working well

[somber axle]

does the final penance stuff imply we're the new Moebian VIth?

[wicked epoch]

i hope their brains explode the moment they use 1 power

[frank ether]

with peril venting costing the witch hp

[somber axle]

this isn't just Vet

it's on all the armours

even Psyker

[wicked epoch]

Go ask #theorycrafting if i was ye

[faint beacon]

I dont think so?

[wicked epoch]

I’d say maybe its just salvaged armor

[faint beacon]

It might just be recovered armor

[wicked epoch]

that

[faint beacon]

seeing they all died on Nox Alpha

or turned traitor

[wicked epoch]

Yep

[faint beacon]

all loyalist died at Nox Alpha

[wicked epoch]

where can i find like the full karkin lore

i just have snippets

I never heard of nox alpha till now

[somber axle]

is the Imperium in the business of letting dead Regiments remain gone?

or would they just like

recreate the 6th?

just fill the empty ranks with the next generation of troops

[faint beacon]

Moebian 21st are kinda the "replacement"

for them

[wicked epoch]

I guess so but that isnt their priority atm

The priority is to get rid of the traitors

[faint beacon]

but I'll be damned if there isn't a handful of loyalist 6th floating around out there somewhere

I refuse to believe ALL loyalist died

[wicked epoch]

where do i even find this

[somber axle]

the only thing I can find on the 21st is

this from the wiki

[faint beacon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/293

Would this be better? lmao

[wicked epoch]

Where do i even find more about the nox alpha shit

All in the wiki?

[somber axle]

so right now it's 21st vs 6th with the Inquisitor and Grendyl's warband supporting them

[faint beacon]

Read the wiki

[wicked epoch]

Yeah

[faint beacon]

on

[wicked epoch]

Dont forget the cults

[faint beacon]

martyr's skulls

[frank ether]

thank you

[faint beacon]

the Martyr's Skulls give the lore on what happened with the 6th

and why they went traitor

[wicked epoch]

Do i just google martyrs skulls?

[faint beacon]

Literally

[wicked epoch]

not sure where to find it

Oh that easy?

[faint beacon]

Yeah cause they put all the warp echoes together in a reasonable snippet story

that explains what happened

[radiant chasm]

tho tbf, sometimes reading it doesn't have the same effect as hearing the line outloud

[faint beacon]

Just understand Nox Alpha is a fringe death planet

[radiant chasm]

but idk if anyone has posted them all in one youtube video

[somber axle]

oh neat

I had no idea this was their deal LOL

I thought it was just a funny Halo skull collecting reference

[wicked epoch]

i only know ab them cuz some french dude told me to grab one

[radiant chasm]

imperium has a skull kink only matched by khorne

[wicked epoch]

https://youtu.be/ZFT9_qchxfs?si=vjoGZrfqjMBz89-T

vid from 2 months ago

[faint beacon]

One is a symbol of humanity and the other is just blood for the blood god

From what I can piece together, the 6th were fighting a fringe war against the forces of Nurgle

[radiant chasm]

ehh they aren't in order but i guess it's fine

[faint beacon]

and clearly the conditions they were sent there cause it was a Suicide mission basically

they turned

[radiant chasm]

they were getting corrupted fairly quick to

laughing, hearing voices, seeing shit, sickness spreading

being absolutely not freaked out that one of their fellow guardsman exploded into maggots

[faint beacon]

Sent with borderline no logistics

I hate to say it imperium bros but I think thats why they went traitor

[faint beacon]

The sickness also spreading like wildfire

[radiant chasm]

i mean, even before martyr skulls, the 6th always had a massive survivor guilt/ego around them

[wicked epoch]

They didnt even get rebreathers lol

[somber axle]

sometimes I forget how much horror there is in Nurgle's diseases

and then

[pastel yew]

wtf...

whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[radiant chasm]

the real horror part is that the voice actor isn't even emotional, but that's a sign of nurgle corruption

[somber axle]

feels like part of the reason for the defection was that so many of them came down with fatal disease the medics could do nothing about

minds addled by agony until they were ready to do anything to survive and make the pain stop

[radiant chasm]

and wolferr getting nurgle priests

[somber axle]

a lot of the lines imply there were a lot of warp shenanigans messing with their minds too

[wicked epoch]

So this all started on nox alpha?

[somber axle]

Wolfer fed his Imperium loyal men to the meat grinder

[radiant chasm]

started a bit earlier but yea

[somber axle]

there's a few lines talking about how they made a run from the trenches and were immediately beset on both flanks by the enemy the instant they were out of their holes

[radiant chasm]

the twins were already cannibals before nox alpha

[somber axle]

5000 men gone

[faint beacon]

Nox Alpha is what was more so the straw that broke the camels back

[radiant chasm]

wolferr was already a bit unhappy

[somber axle]

and they never even saw the enemy

just ambushed and wiped out

Wolfer was setting up any loyalist men for slaughter then wiped out the rest

[radiant chasm]

why is cannibalistic siblings such a reoccuring plot point smh

[wicked epoch]

What turned wolfer?

[wicked epoch]

Reminds me of that game with the incest twins

[somber axle]

there's a dark part where they mention that the enemy had scrambled the vox but they had no idea how the enemy could get their frequencies

[wicked epoch]

lulu andy something?

[somber axle]

no idea but he bashes heads with some commissar apparently and it doesn't end well for the commissar

[faint beacon]

I mean should we even be surprised with what corpse starch is made of?

[pastel yew]

wait... stamina regen is a flat amount

not a % of total stamina

?

[somber axle]

aside from watching his regiment bleed and die from hellish disease while making little to no progress without support or supply he probably had help being nudged toward chaos by the commissar killing his men so frequently

there's a part where a line mentions the commissar killed more of their men than the enemy did during one battle

[radiant chasm]

what

[somber axle]

add in the priests and whatever they may have whispered in his ears and it's no surprise he turned traitor

[pastel yew]

if you stack stamina, you regen far far slower

[frank ether]

Common sense is all you need to hate imperium lmao

[crimson pebble]

Which came first the scabs or the dregs

[frank ether]

Dregs?

[somber axle]

Dregs were on Atoma before the VIth returned

The cultists were already here

[faint beacon]

Dregs

[frank ether]

there were already cults in place before the scab army were recalled

and dregs are the nurgle cult

[somber axle]

Wolfer showed up when Atoma called for help putting down the Dregs

[faint beacon]

Admonition was always there

[somber axle]

The VIth helped the Dregs put down the resistance and spread chaos and disease across the city

[uncut pebble]

I am seeing the appeal of rashad now that I'm using a weapon specialist build with trench fighter drill.

[frank ether]

lore is still so uncooked lmao

the cutscene with wolder kneeling in front of dreg shotgunner

[uncut pebble]

I just outdamaged a meta smiteker using this thing...

[frank ether]

we dont have a dreg villain figure yet

[uncut pebble]

Like 608k damage.

[faint beacon]

It’s slowly but surely cooking

[frank ether]

You can only go up from here with the current state of game lore

so yea

[faint beacon]

It’s technically Nurgle till we find any sort of Nurgle cultists that are basically priests

[frank ether]

also why the hell did they name the new NPC swagger

who is writing lore at fatshark

need inspiration man?

[rare bough]

lmao

[faint beacon]

I’ll admit that’s my biggest irk

His name

[frank ether]

I swear I had 5 different friends chuckle at the mention of that name lmao

[faint beacon]

But as a character he’s pretty solid

[uncut pebble]

I mean, he's likely a ganger from the undercity.

[rare bough]

His outfit doesnt match his voice or personality either

[frank ether]

yeah

voice actor did a good job as always too

[radiant chasm]

Dan /j

[radiant chasm]

Def seems the dashing rogue type, from a high class background as well, or maybe just a con artist

Like deacon from fo4, this is just Swagger’s presentation for the moment

[frank ether]

I like the con artist idea more

[mellow adder]

Is this an ok zarona quickdraw? Should I change the perks or keep them?

[frank ether]

its a zarona, it will always be ok

but if you want real advice

flak is absolutely pointless on this weapon

you already delete flak targets in one shot

And for your next zarona try to get a crit blessing in there

[faint beacon]

In his trailer it showed him clearly setting up some sort of deal with the water cartel only to kill them for their information on supposedly clandestine Gloriana, he’s most likely a con artist or ganger

[uncut pebble]

You want hand cannon and surgical for blessings, and for vet, blessings are far more important because of your versatility with breakpoints.

[frank ether]

I like that idea a lot more than some random ass noble's son or whatever

[uncut pebble]

Like, if you're just a bit short on reaper 2 taps, you could just pick up bring it down instead of putting unyielding damage on.

[radiant chasm]

I want swagger and melk to have an annoyance competition

Like just constant underhanded verbal jabs

They’d either be best friends or absolutely hate each other

[rare bough]

Melk deserves a friend, he's not as bad as people make him out to be

[radiant chasm]

Nah

He’s a social climber and scumbag with the veneer of decency

[tall torrent]

Yea

It’s scaled from ur class’ base stamina regen rate
For veteran that’s 1 stamina per second
With 3x stamina regen rate it goes to 1.36 stamina per second

[rare bough]

So people say, but I've not seen that from him.
All I see is Melk looking out for himself in response to everyone crapping on him, mostly hallowette. And who cares what hallowette has to say lmao

[radiant chasm]

He is literally just like her lol

[frank ether]

I think melk would win that one

[radiant chasm]

He just wears a polite face while hallowette wears it on her shirt

[rare bough]

Right, Melk makes an effort at decency. That alone puts him above Hallowette

[frank ether]

but then melk isn't consistently snarky he's just hella biased

Which is like, most people

most people are biased as heck

[radiant chasm]

He does shady schemes behind the back of the inquisition

[radiant chasm]

Hallowette is honest as a black marketer could be

[rare bough]

pff lmao

[mellow adder]

still okay for an axe if I don't have headtaker yet?

[rare bough]

"quality wares, just for you" yeah okay lady haha

[radiant chasm]

That’s better than whatever melk doing, 1 hand absolutely bootlicking the higher ups, the other hand doing any scheme to give him a bit of extra money on the side

[rigid pilot]

Limbsplitter

[frank ether]

I'd dig limbsplitter if the cooldown didnt reset on hitting something

I really like the idea but the way it works kills it for me

[coral willow]

efficiency:

[radiant chasm]

I mean, in lore, yes, she is the black market expert and acquires regiment gear that has either been misplaced or looted off corpses

[pastel yew]

ty, not ideal though

weird way to do it

[rare bough]

That's what ambition and respect looks like. I don't see much bootlicking by him either, he mostly just plays his role while making moves

[coral willow]

i mean if you dont use your weapon for 3.5 second you get thrust benefits

[radiant chasm]

Melk in lore just makes tasks and helps with the wyrmwood network, hallowette’s military contributions we dont get to see in game cause she is regulated to the cash shop

[pastel yew]

though ping is enough stamina regen with this much stamina for what I need so

[coral willow]

like imagine limbsplitter thrust thammer

[pastel yew]

alls well that ends well

[radiant chasm]

Hah, hallowette is a rogue trader’s seneschal

[rare bough]

yeah?

[radiant chasm]

Steward, right hand, i think that puts her above melk

[rare bough]

In rank? I'm still talking about personality

[rigid pilot]

Abelard, crush his skull

[coral willow]

problem with limbsplitter is that it doesn't off any benefits and ranged weapons arent melee weapons(unless you are using helbores)

[frank ether]

I yearn for bayonets to make a return

I'd gladly sacrifice shock trooper for it

[rigid pilot]

Melk doesn't belong to the RT

[radiant chasm]

Personality? I value honesty over chronic liars tbh

Yea melk is inquisition

[rare bough]

What lies has Melk told you. Seems like you've bought into the melk-hater memes

[coral willow]

like fr bayonets would indirectly buff stuff

[radiant chasm]

Im saying, in their organizations, hallowette is basically the rannick equivalent for brahms

[coral willow]

even in his dialog within the hub its pretty clear that he is a authotarian bastard who likes money welfare and just higher ranking

[rare bough]

Melk: Gives you things to do, gets you paid, has sometimes useful things to trade
Hallowette: Rips you off, sells you slop, laughs in your face
lmao

[rigid pilot]

Everytime I think of melk I just hear "GRENDYLLLL WILL HEAR OF THIS"

[radiant chasm]

The entire prismata crystal in ascension riser, his whole noble heritage being in question, every reject doesnt like him lol

[rigid pilot]

Little rat

[coral willow]

also the fact that he tried to snitch halowette to get 20% of the money

[radiant chasm]

He pays you in his own currency

[rare bough]

Yeah and Hallowette takes my irl dollars

[coral willow]

i dont like halowette shop but it fits with rogue trader

[rigid pilot]

Rogue trader fomo shop

[radiant chasm]

Hallowette supplies bullets and military equipment to the warband, it costs, but it isn’t slow and practically guaranteed compared to the imperial supply lines

[coral willow]

she does some sketchy things to seen from invis-ships for getting stuff in, lacking whatever duties she does to get scolded by brhams, etc

overally more likable character

[radiant chasm]

Sure if you don’t mind it possibly being stolen from corpses and been in the hand of xenos

[radiant chasm]

It’s the paperwork side

[tall torrent]

It doesn’t really matter because there’s nothing that drains stamina in % rn

[coral willow]

ah

[rare bough]

Hallowette uses reject strike team behind inquisition's back. Melk notices and can either report her and cause drama or take a cut and watch over the operation.
He's actually doing her a favour lmao

[radiant chasm]

But brahms clearly respects hallowettes skills

[coral willow]

got it

[radiant chasm]

He’s doing himself a favor and he planned it since the start xd

Def wasnt his first rodeo

[coral willow]

^what he said

hopefully its not gonna be his last, its funny

[rare bough]

He didn't plan it, it's Hallowette's job. He just know's what she's up to because he's smarter than people give him credit for

[coral willow]

he's greedier*

[radiant chasm]

Basically no one respects melk on the inquisition side, while hallowette is getting gifted carnival bars planetside by brahms

[coral willow]

ah right

[radiant chasm]

He 100% planned it the moment he walked in

[coral willow]

brhams care about halowette forgot

[rigid pilot]

Isn't melk relatively low rank in the inquisition? Being below zola

[rare bough]

How can you plan something the moment you become involved 🤔

[coral willow]

brhams seems like a nice shipmistress to serve

[radiant chasm]

Because he’s clearly done it before lol

[coral willow]

"imma tell mom unless you pay me a buck"

[radiant chasm]

“Alright melk what will it be?”

“20%”

Dude was ready

[rigid pilot]

Does Grendyl even exist

[radiant chasm]

Yes

[rare bough]

That doesnt mean he set it all up. He just knows how to exploit people who are caught red-handed doing the wrong thing, like Hallowette was

[coral willow]

according to rannick, least she existed
not sure about today but unless we find the corpse we wont know

[radiant chasm]

Or at least according to vox teasers, the dreg leader knows about grendyl and think he is alive

[rigid pilot]

Is Grendyl a she

[coral willow]

who knows

[radiant chasm]

So instead of turning her in, he joined in and shared the crime

[rigid pilot]

Masked guy called him he

[radiant chasm]

Grendyl is a “he” iirc

[rare bough]

Yeah, he did her a favour

[rigid pilot]

Swagger

[radiant chasm]

Lol no he did himself a favor

[rare bough]

THey both benefitted. Hallowette didn't get reported and he got paid. That's mutual

[radiant chasm]

That is why he went from “harrumph i’ll tell daddy about this” to helping us in a minute

[rare bough]

yes

[radiant chasm]

Dude idk why you gotta idealize i conniving two faced suck up

[rare bough]

Idk why you're trying to villanize someone who's no worse or self-concerned than the rest of the cast lmao

[radiant chasm]

[coral willow]

rest of the cast suuuure not when morrow exists

he does lie a lot about his activities but hes a good man

[radiant chasm]

Morrow is just a chad

[rare bough]

Morrow needs a vacation lol

[radiant chasm]

“You have the easy job, Grendyl has me meeting with the nobles, the bastard” or was it rannick morrow was talking about

[coral willow]

any vac anyone in the imperium gets is 'death' and its duration is 'permanent'

[coral willow]

he seem to hate nobles as much as cadian does so

[radiant chasm]

Every who isn’t a noble hates the nobles

[coral willow]

true

[rare bough]

Even nobles hate other nobles

[radiant chasm]

damn nobles

They ruined nobility

[rare bough]

lmao

[coral willow]

that really quicly become a simpsons episode

[radiant chasm]

Cant wait till spireside

[rare bough]

same

[mellow adder]

This a good plasma?

[rigid pilot]

It's great

[rare bough]

Looks good, but I honestly couldnt tell you

[mellow adder]

is thermal resistance the least important?

[rigid pilot]

Ideally you dump charge rate but meh

[mellow adder]

I'm new to plasmas

[rigid pilot]

Nah everything will probably die before you run out of heat because plasma

Pewpew

And even if you are at max heat just vent

[mellow adder]

I just returned to the game after a year and need someone to judge my weapons, going through stuff scrapping blessings and such lol

[tall torrent]

U need elite on plasma

[coral willow]

they should bring back lclick explosion

[rigid pilot]

Playtesters for vet: give plasma safety vent, too punishing

Playtesters for psyker:

[gilded rock]

Why doesn't the veteran throw away the plasma before it explodes? Is he stupid?

[coral willow]

cause he will be executed for treason

[gilded rock]

Has time to look at it for three seconds before it detonates

Examines the side of it for all three seconds

[rigid pilot]

Because it's so hot it melted into their hands

Lore cope

[gilded rock]

"oh wow it really is gonna explode, radical"

[gilded rock]

That was one of my guesses 😭

[somber axle]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-27-2017/8iEs6P.gif

[gilded rock]

Literally

Treat plasmas like grenades

[somber axle]

it's probably a LOT heavier than it looks

[gilded rock]

Throw it at a crusher's face

[somber axle]

not easy to toss