veteran-class

[frank basin]

The columnus and graia?

[fleet thicket]

Yeah

[coral willow]

toy
all jokes askde the other ones have like 50% pen essentially and has decent DPS socmight be worth checking out

[fleet thicket]

I got a 380 graia

With

Death spitter and fire frenzy

Manaic and flak

[coral willow]

looks good then

[frank basin]

Columnus is inbetween, while graia has lower dmg has extra features mechanic

[fleet thicket]

Appretntly it's braced is different ?

[coral willow]

graia has the stubber mechwnism where ADS increases rof

[frank basin]

Which I use graia

[fleet thicket]

What's the special mechanic ?

[frank basin]

More dakka

[coral willow]

columnus is IAG's graia where it iust middle lf the road damage and rof

[frank basin]

M2 = dakka

[coral willow]

shoot, and then ads-shoot

you can feel it

[frank basin]

Love graia

Stim yourself celerity for overdrive dakka

[coral willow]

reloads for hqlf the duration

[frank basin]

An actual mg42

[coral willow]

brrrrrt

[frank basin]

Is the Austrian leader guy name allow to say here because I like call buzzsaw something for nicer name

[coral willow]

too bad that now goes to recon 6 since it actually has 1200rpm

[fleet thicket]

Well dah

[fleet thicket]

Rof?

Really ???? XD

This thing already shoot fast

[coral willow]

try it first

[fleet thicket]

Does it

Decrase it's recoil ???

It's ads?

[frank basin]

If you didn’t brace it down it shoot quite slow for me, the ads down input about 20% rof

[coral willow]

probably

its bracing

[fleet thicket]

Damn

I'm guessing this is the ultimate gun for the ammo goblins

[coral willow]

thats zarona sorry

[fleet thicket]

Fuck that gun

I hate it so much

So little ammo

[frank basin]

Only myself who like graia because I’m an LMG lover

[fleet thicket]

Literally laspistol >zarona

[fleet thicket]

Is this shredders older brother ? XD

[frank basin]

Talking about autopistol?

[tall torrent]

No

[pastel yew]

ah... a future 40k fan in the making

[pastel yew]

I mean... for some things sure

but no where near overall

[tall torrent]

Zarona is the best veteran gun

[pastel yew]

its certainly more ammo efficient I guess

[faint beacon]

On god

[coral willow]

Zarona is the best veteran gun

[umbral garnet]

Plasma is its rival.

[faint beacon]

Poxburster veteran, max wounds and only kill through overheating with the plasma gun

[serene bough]

this is it

the new meta is here

[frank basin]

The only thing plasma do is blow up two your hand off

[umbral garnet]

By Nurgle...

[frank basin]

Zarona doesn’t

[frank basin]

Charge and shoot repeat, until explode.

Then eat Medicae

I’ll see about it

[tall torrent]

Not nearly as good on zealot/psyker as on veteran

[fleet thicket]

Of course

What else

[hearty panther]

dance of death, my beloved

[faint beacon]

Zarona truly lives rent free in all of our heads with how stupidly strong it is

[frank basin]

500 damage is equally on quick shot plasma

[grand perch]

#allgunsarebeautiful
looks at shredder pistol
except you

[hearty panther]

make the bulletray not the size of the plasma gun and i might stop hating it so much

[frank basin]

Still have on my arsenal will use sometime

[fleet thicket]

Wait

This is the vet chat

[frank basin]

Yeah?

[fleet thicket]

Wait this is the vet chat how did my phone post things here xD

[faint beacon]

Welcome to hell

[grand perch]

its a nonvet GET HIM BOYS

[frank basin]

Zealot spy!

[fleet thicket]

I'm a ogryn main actually

[frank basin]

Okay big guy

[fleet thicket]

I'm here for da extra rashuns!

[frank basin]

You’re free to go

[faint beacon]

No no, Ogryns are okay

It’s just those FILTHY priests and their… DISGUSTING crits and there… melee chains and….

[frank basin]

femboy noise

That things

Its scare me

[fleet thicket]

Tbf

Zealots think your class is op

Cuz your rending

[faint beacon]

Yeah it’s fair I just shit on them for previously how busted FTOF was

Now there really isn’t much

Zealot is still great

[frank basin]

Because you don’t need throw slugs on enemy when you can hit them with metal object free cost.

[faint beacon]

Give it a few patches if they recognize VOC genuinely needs a nerf

[coral willow]

[zealot is dead]

all things aside zealot still does some things unique

but like voc plasma psword

[faint beacon]

I would say it’s a few weapons and very select talents that truly can make Veteran overshadow Zealot

[pastel yew]

yup which means either ws or the zarona will get hit with a nuclear nerf rather than just adjusting it so they combo less efficiently

[coral willow]

zarona's stupidness i feel like is extraverted on exec where it can and will oneshot a crusher

[pastel yew]

a lot of points to grab exec just to do that though

[faint beacon]

Most likely WS so then I get extremely upset my HHA can’t be used aggressively

[pastel yew]

especially when you're killing in 2-3 anyway

[coral willow]

even outside of that its still quite op so no matter i guess

ahahahahaa

[pastel yew]

god bless stacking buffs

[tall torrent]

Both can use a nerf

[faint beacon]

Nuke it

[coral willow]

ws is wierd its ranged buff would be like stupid op but uhhh idk noone talks about it????

[frank basin]

Am I thinking this is on sedation??

[pastel yew]

I don't really think outside of vet the revolver is that much of an issue though

[coral willow]

i mean zarona is still a god on every class i feel like

[pastel yew]

honestly they should remove the free headshots on the zarona though

[tall torrent]

Zarona is the only special sniping gun in this game that doesn’t require headshot to 1 tap things consistently

[pastel yew]

the weapon magnifies head hitboxes or something

[coral willow]

its just not skybusted like in vet

[faint beacon]

Psyker, Zealot, and Veteran all can easily use it

It’s the gun itself

[frank basin]

How skillful are you to land headshot on moving chaos spawn?

[pastel yew]

it's not like hitting head is hard

[fleet thicket]

Zarona is for zealot ammo goblins

[pastel yew]

I don't care about skill floor only skill ceiling

[fleet thicket]

Knife pricks

[pastel yew]

if something is easier to use but not overall way stronger I don't really care ig

[coral willow]

zealot who uses zarona more than their throwing knives, be shamed

[tall torrent]

No, but it is a very legitimate advantage when every other gun rely on headshots to 1 tap
And nobody has 100% headshot accuracy

[frank basin]

Chaos head so tiny and agile

[pastel yew]

I do honest... d-don't check

[frank basin]

BoN got blobby on their back

[coral willow]

can orher guns headshot 1tap on zealot?

feel like vraks 7 requires a surgical crit

[faint beacon]

HHA but it doesn’t have uh

Cleave

[pastel yew]

I wouldn't mind if the zarona just did way more weakspot damage then body damage though

[faint beacon]

Unlike the Zarona

That’s the issue

[frank basin]

For krak stick on their head for stagger effect??

[coral willow]

stick anywhere

[faint beacon]

Zarona can completely delete special conga lines whilst the Vraks 7 will maybe kill 2 of the 10

[coral willow]

just needs to stick and it somehow stuns bons

[frank basin]

Per chances?

[coral willow]

well vraks can kill 22

but each shot requirex the crit

least ofr gunners

[pastel yew]

honestly the vraks should have more pen

[tall torrent]

No

[faint beacon]

Zarona only needs 1

If they’re lined up

[tall torrent]

Vraks 7 doesn’t need Crit for Gunner 1 shot

[pastel yew]

theres nothing more infuriating than firing a shot and having 1 pixel of railing or corner cancel your shot

[coral willow]

on zealot?

how do i build this thing then :(

[tall torrent]

On zealot idk

[coral willow]

yeah zealot kinda shafted rn

[tall torrent]

You start by picking up dum dum + ghost laspistol

[coral willow]

fair point

[pastel yew]

yeah the last patch killed any interest I had in playing zealot

I'm glad I have 2 other stacked classes to play instead

[frank basin]

I run Exe stance with Agrip revolver once time🤠

[pastel yew]

ultimate high noon build

[coral willow]

zealot is still good but im spamming "zealot is dead" until vet/psyker issue is dealt with

[faint beacon]

Op on everyone still lmao

[pastel yew]

they just don't have anything fun that sets them apart

[frank basin]

Before agrip add in the game I use high noon mod on zarona with laser pointer

[tall torrent]

Insane dedication to spreading misinformation

[pastel yew]

buff the thunder hammers man

make them not the worst thing in the world to use

[tall torrent]

Throwing knives are fun

[faint beacon]

Yeah the tree could use tweaking or minor reworks to things

[pastel yew]

okay thats fair the throwing knives are fun

[faint beacon]

ESPECIALLY loner

[pastel yew]

but not enough for me to want a whole build

[hearty panther]

big if true

[coral willow]

f off i need my zealot back

[hearty panther]

vet with assail sheeeeesh

[tall torrent]

Just become a momentum Rashader it’s not that complicated

[coral willow]

he kinda has shredders but im sure someone would pick fire over shredders cause shredder kinda suck at times

[tall torrent]

Or play Chainaxe 4 with martyr

[coral willow]

i run marty rashad

[tall torrent]

What’s the problem then

[frank basin]

Marty with crusher/ironhelm

[coral willow]

well, nothing
just that vet wasnt nerfed this patch

[pastel yew]

the fact you could be playing rashad ws vet instead

[faint beacon]

Okay okay hear me out, what if the big box of hurt on Ogryn would roll random grenade types so you’d get like…

2 shredders, immolation, and a smoke and the rest are duds

[tall torrent]

Nah

[faint beacon]

IT WOULD BE FUNNY THOUGH

[pastel yew]

people already complain about the box of hurt killing fps lmao, though this would be hillarious

[coral willow]

i gave up fotf after it couldnt 2shpt crushers but ye this basically feels a different gameplay than anythign vet offers

[frank basin]

throw it twice

[pastel yew]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-xqcl-gif-25519231

release smite used to nuke my frames

another reason to hate them witches...

wait it gives you iframes?

[tall torrent]

FotF is still the least healthy part of zealot’s tree idk what ur on abt

[frank basin]

me on my way when I see horde G + M1

[faint beacon]

Don’t forget the free toughness as well!

[coral willow]

it is, just missing the BP after rending changes so i just went to stelf instead

[tall torrent]

During dash you’re invulnerable to most attacks (trapper’s net is not one of them)

[pastel yew]

HUH... good to know

[coral willow]

dealing with consequences by killing eberything with rashad

[frank basin]

I don’t pick fotf when I run knife bleed with crits rdc

I use the book instead

😛

[pastel yew]

imagine if half of this games mechanics were explained literally anywhere in game

[coral willow]

ogryn dash getting shot by 3 snipers

[fleet thicket]

Guys

What is agri revolver good at killing ?

[pastel yew]

specials n bosses

[faint beacon]

Does it have carapace armor? No, you can kill it quickly

[coral willow]

oh yeah fotf also has HP damage immunity to poxbursters

[tall torrent]

Zealot stealth is

[frank basin]

I still don’t understand the meaning of iframes

[tall torrent]

Invulnerability frames

[faint beacon]

Allows you to do things without being immediately punished for remotely thinking of pressing a button

[pastel yew]

still so sad on the armor pen being removed from the dash tho, rest in pieces shotgun or laspistol if you wanna run a non armor pierce melee

[faint beacon]

If FOTF didn’t have it, I’d honestly wonder how people could manage that

[pastel yew]

killing 3 crushers with a laspistol was good while it lasted

[frank basin]

Ws + boltpistol xiiig chainsword; is this commissar build?

[pastel yew]

bet the chainsword would sound real nice with the increased attack speed

not as nice as zealot tho big rip

[tall torrent]

The main downside here is taking a chainsword on veteran

If only veteran had an ability that gave them 100% melee rending to 1 shot crushers on any chain weapon

[frank basin]

On zealot would be uhhh momentum and fotf; crazy commissar

[pastel yew]

yeah I mean its still good its just looking back... seeing what you've lost yknow?

charge spam was the gormet crayons of darktide

[lusty sapphire]

Too stupid to exist ngl

Funny

[hearty panther]

i fukken love butter chimken

[radiant adder]

what do we think about this one boys?

[faint beacon]

Silly knife, Executor probably isn’t the best of the best blessing wise but you do have uncanny so it’ll do its job well

[radiant adder]

I literally only care about Uncanny xD

Shit is broked/.

Gonna try with the auto reload doom shotty build/.

The crucian roulette bug was absolutely cooked.

I miss it.

[faint beacon]

Well I mean Assail Psyker currently has Puncture working on it so like

Yeah…

[radiant chasm]

mk6 canuse executor

perfectly fine knife

[hearty panther]

was it actually 95%

[radiant adder]

What about the ogryn boss stun lock thing that we had.

[hearty panther]

TDR?

that ability sure was silly for a while though

[radiant adder]

Where you headshot with mk3 club, slap then hit and stun lock/.

[hearty panther]

unwavering focus was pretty fucking silly

[radiant chasm]

wasn't it at the start when there wasn't bleed through on anything so vets and psykers could basically be invincible

[hearty panther]

oh i guess the most OP thing ever was ogryn trigging lucky bullet on empty mags

with current-ish kickback

[frank basin]

I use on rumbler instead

[radiant chasm]

i had 2 rumbler ogryns in the same game abusing that bug

absolutely ruined ears

[hearty panther]

that has to be at the top, right?

[frank basin]

You just need hold it down

[hearty panther]

i never did it

[frank basin]

On no remaining ammo left

[hearty panther]

i heard the bug existed and decided it was a good time to take a week off lmao

[frank basin]

Surge blessing void strike

[hearty panther]

launch powersword with its seven energized swings

and carapace cleave at the time iirc

it wouldnt hold up today just cause all the enemy buffs

but denisty was also lower back then

i dunno, hard to 1:1

god i love butter chicken

yeah if your toughness did break it was over, but

95% TDR buys you a lot of time

[livid fractal]

are recon las viable rn?

[pastel yew]

extremely

[frank basin]

You didn’t hear some of us talk about recon last time not very long ago?

[faint beacon]

Very good picks now

[pastel yew]

finally

I wonder if blessing grind is like completely rng free in itemization patch

or if that's some weapons grade hopium

[foggy granite]

Fellas I gotta know is laspistol and chainsword good

[frank basin]

Pessimistic here, I turn your hopium into Copium

[foggy granite]

I’ve been using it a lot recently and it seems to be working on lower tier missions

[pastel yew]

laspistol mk2 is good

[foggy granite]

How does it hold up later on

[pastel yew]

I'm not a fan of the other one

the chainswords are fine

[foggy granite]

Yeah that’s what I’ve been using the non heavy las pistol

[pastel yew]

not really super special at anything

[frank basin]

The xiiig I mainly use for crowd control light attack

[livid fractal]

do I need a good roll for it to be good? or can I mess around with a basic roll to see if i like it

[foggy granite]

That’s what I do

[pastel yew]

you can make anything work in higher difs though it's just a skill thing, you'll get the hang of it

I would probably take krak grenades tho

[foggy granite]

The chainsword is basically my oh shit button

I love krak

[pastel yew]

as dealing with crushers with a chainsword sounds like

[frank basin]

Just got like last time pre patch

Dumdum hh infernus but this time VIIa infernus did great (said some Japanese named guy)

[pastel yew]

sorta depends, honestly I feel like it doesn't really need blessings though they help. infernus is nice boss damage though you could easily get away with a decent stat recon with 2 good perks

I think I have +crit and +maniac on mine... cant remember

[heavy rover]

very. I've recently done a recon lasgun build (headhunter and infernus) with vet marksman keystone and I've been melting through enemies on auric damnation

[frank basin]

Something he said the dumdum with cake up 300 infernus dmg

[pastel yew]

that ain't bad at all

[frank basin]

Foggy memory did he mention about dmg falloff?

[pastel yew]

do recons have reverse damage drop off

like the normal lasguns

I actually have no idea

I know the pistols dont

so I'd guess they don't either

[frank basin]

Boot the game up and see it

[pastel yew]

I just closedit

will checknext time I'm in

[frank basin]

PayPal you $5 for boot the game up again

[pastel yew]

aight I'll open it and check

keep your cashola

they don't

big sad

this whole time I thought I had crit on

i need to craft another one at some point I guess

[severe gale]

long

[pastel yew]

LONGGG gun always better

I wish you could remove the top rail with weapon customization but you cannot

I want a space m16

its close enough

ish

outside of it being a bulpup

[frank basin]

Shitty outskirt network service

[severe gale]

space famas

[last parcel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053823148048527440/1260005358659829903/Fl54np9.png?ex=66925c2f&is=66910aaf&hm=195856e9569787b4cf738756c2c56ca86071c9b894c2b779baba15da74be030c&

[severe gale]

lmfao

awesome

[placid portal]

What the barnicles are these cursed desciptionw

[severe gale]

wait

yeah

what the fuck

[hearty panther]

ye

thats exactly its niche

honestly tho idk what else to really put on

well

yes to dumdum

but dumdum and what

boooooooooo

i dun like it, its a layer of rng that frustrates me

i did susfire for a bit with the II

since im basically just always doing agile engagement shit

that seemed ok

[last parcel]

does infernus not count as rng for you

[hearty panther]

you just need the one crit for two infernus stacks and thats generally enough in a salvo

that i can do what azrael said above

which is just move on from the target and let it die

also was doing psyker recon recently and true aim + headhunter seems very goofy

cause ya even with no added crit you can be pretty sure that in a 10 round burst you'll get at least one crit out of it

not even counting reciprocity or deadshot or other memes

i guess the way to phrase it is

[pastel yew]

more that its just really consistent boss damage if you're unable to hit their weakspot which is when you'd otherwise shred

though you could always take something else

[hearty panther]

that headhunter i would see DPS swings of a couple hundred or so

but with infernus i could reliably pull off a burst of the same length and know that the target would die

with a consistent outcome

and thats what i value more in the end

even if one can do the bigger number

[pastel yew]

that's fair, it is nice to know that an enemy is gonna die and immediately go to someone else

and let them die to burn stacks

[livid fractal]

worth a nab?

[hearty panther]

nah

your next two upgrades would have to be pretty much perfect

[neon estuary]

i would stick with finding a good one with good perks and blessings for which is gonna take alot of money and resources

Like this one

come to think of it, i'll would trade infernus for headhunter for effective crit damage

just curious, which recon lasgun is better? because i've been conflicted about it

[gilded rock]

7a is a good generalist, kills anything but carapace and monstrosity pretty well

[clear lantern]

as anm offer to Hadron, for the blessing

[dreamy spade]

hmm idk whether to use Executor or Mercy Killer, i have serrated blade and frags, but also trench fighter and weapon specialist so i can stack Executor quick

[somber axle]

I still don't know why the discord blocks this but sharing it anyway until a mod tells me to stop LOL

The best general use Recons are the Recon Mk II and Recon Mk VIIa

There's not really a best Recon for anything and everything

All the Recons do different things better than the others

My best advice is to just pick which ever you find to be the most fun because there's no wrong answer

[last parcel]

the only wrong answer is not using recon

[somber axle]

The wrongest answer is going Kantrael Mk IV with an autoclicker and saying it's a Recon

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/blink-dishonored-gif-10459872

[gilded rock]

I gotta roll up a new 7a that doesn't have infernus

[pastel yew]

is that... discord light mode

[somber axle]

I live within the Emperor's Light

[pastel yew]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-mode-dark-mode-off-light-mode-blinded-blind-gif-21330136

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-gif-25786536

[neon estuary]

i think i'll just go with the high damage one and give it a dumdrum and a headhunter. That would be a good choice for a recon lasgun for effective headshots without aiming down the sights in close quarters

[fleet thicket]

guys

whats the minimum

ammo you want on agri shotgun?

i think i should ahve minmum 13 in the chember?

[last parcel]

i spam slug shots so 0% ammo is my minimum

[fleet thicket]

[umbral scaffold]

Slug is the only reason you take that shotgun. It's reserve ammo you need you worry about.

Looks like you have 101 specialist kills on that one.

[lusty sapphire]

So uhm boltpistol IS kinda fun, decent hs dmg with MF tree nodes. The problem is you don't want it to be your main weapon and you want more of the melee nodes from weapon specialist

Needless to say you don't get enough points for it so the build is fun but doesn't hit as hard as it should

[shadow dagger]

is there a mod to like

stop callouts from interrupting conversational dialogue

or would that stop callouts for other people in your game as well

and therefore be like interfering with other players experience

[lusty sapphire]

I don't think there is

[terse idol]

Just take Exe and MF

[frank basin]

Shitty outskirt network service

I can’t see message properly

[digital walrus]

best blessings for shock maul? ninja vet build

also does high voltage work activate on smited heretics

[junior needle]

Az is basing that off boss TTK

[narrow frost]

@manic herald

all 3 different vets

[sinful jacinth]

Has anyone capped out weapon stash space?

It was 100 right?

I got a feeling I'm half way on all 4 classes.

xD

[narrow frost]

I dont think there is a cap

[hearty panther]

i must have a thousand

[sinful jacinth]

I thought i read it somewhere it was 100 ish.

[sinful jacinth]

Well then. Nothing to be scared yet for me then. :p

[sinful jacinth]

How the hell do you even scroll through that shit. :p

[hearty panther]

🐌

[white minnow]

stuff searcher mod 😎

[sinful jacinth]

When you think you're bad at hoarding. There is always a mf that 10x you.

[lusty sapphire]

Genuinely would and use run and gun, full stamina curios, reload on elite kills.

Speed demon build

(But worse in any way to revolver )

[zenith helm]

@formal lake do you have a zealot build I could use? Something as good as your vet build.

[hearty panther]

no mods here, only masochism

[marble mantle]

Teach me how to be better with MF

[hearty panther]

shoot the heads

[lusty sapphire]

No trick. You aim heads or you cosplay a gnome

[marble mantle]

🤯

[hearty panther]

i sort of recommend uh

the camo node, at all times

[marble mantle]

Yeah

[idle pecan]

Mf?

[hearty panther]

it means youll get to that one hit breakpoint you need

[marble mantle]

Marksman focus

[hearty panther]

and then maintaining MF is easy

[marble mantle]

Hmmm

Okay

[hearty panther]

but thats honestly it for advice lol

the rest is you gotta click the heads

[lusty sapphire]

What was that called again. I don't ever use it tbf

[last parcel]

camouflage

[marble mantle]

Honestly I wish they just made it a little more user friendly

[midnight totem]

Ugh. What should I cook for dinner today

[marble mantle]

I play Xbox and it feels pretty prohibitive sometimes

[midnight totem]

Dumplings, Ramen, or rice

[idle pecan]

Spaghetti

[last parcel]

cheese potato dumplings

[lusty sapphire]

Figures

[marble mantle]

Meth if youre lucky

Crack if you’re not

[midnight totem]

Crack it is

[idle pecan]

Cocaine

[lusty sapphire]

Oh, then mf is uhm yeah

[marble mantle]

Prohibitive

[lusty sapphire]

A lot of these enemies do very sudden jerks so I feel like controller is just at a net disadvantage for these things

[marble mantle]

Yessir

Let me get marksman focus by walking

Long as I’m not sprinting

[lusty sapphire]

You still lose stacks

Unfortunately

You gotta crawl

[marble mantle]

No I know but like

Let me do it

Fatshark

It just feels very unforgiving since I’m not playing a point and click adventure game

[idle pecan]

Can you crouch walk to not lose mf stacks

[marble mantle]

With an augment

But honestly it feels so bad

[last parcel]

yes

[idle pecan]

I just use the focus

[last parcel]

camo is only needed for mf gain while crouch walking

[idle pecan]

Weapon swap perk is bugged since it only works on the first shot and not for 5s

And Mf is just....not

[junior needle]

WS isn't bugged for the crit

That's intended

Even if it's dumb

I'm back at it again

[last parcel]

join mid match and immediately get hit by 5 bursters

[junior needle]

I expect it to happen

[austere mica]

Vets I swear

[lean bloom]

can someone give me a good veteran build?

[midnight totem]

No

only the worst builds here

!

kidding, what do you prefer

generalist, melee, or ranged?

[marble mantle]

I can send you a picture of a funny looking dog but that’s about all I got

Doing it anyway

[midnight totem]

Guardsman Barkalot

very reliable

[marble mantle]

feared by heretics, adored by the emperor

He ate all of his purity seals : (

[midnight totem]

Well, now they're within him

gotta keep that gut pure

especially with all the nurgle filth he be biting

[marble mantle]

So true, he is one to idolize

[lean bloom]

I need one with Voice of command

[midnight totem]

ranged or melee focus?

[lean bloom]

melee

Executioners stance its too hard for damnation

[junior needle]

Builds are reliant on what weapons/aura/ult you prefer

[marble mantle]

I meannnn

It just buffs your range

[junior needle]

Exe is the least good ult currently

[lean bloom]

I mean its good but people dont cover while i shoot elites

[midnight totem]

@lean bloom

here you go

generalist melee build

[lean bloom]

Thanks!!

[midnight totem]

with voice of command

[arctic rampart]

is there an updated guide for recons

[midnight totem]

not yet methinks

anybody wanna play a game?

[shadow aurora]

Yeah you can never count on your team to cover you

Gotta learn to weave around enemies while in it

Or set up in an area where enemies wont get you

If youre having trouble using exe try using smokes

[junior needle]

I'm trying to do my last ASS game

[shadow aurora]

It makes it easier

Is ass an abbreviation or?

[junior needle]

If you desire to join you may

[shadow aurora]

Oooh right i keep forgetting

I haven't even gotten the 10 auric mission one yet ill just slow you down lol

Half way there though

[last parcel]

auric exemplar took me so much longer than ass lol

[junior needle]

The randos are already doing that quite well

[radiant chasm]

Amazing

[last parcel]

revenge of the wrath

[junior needle]

I've seen more wrath than any other blessing on pswords in AM

[shadow aurora]

I can see why

I can do auric damn reliably but

Randos are less than reliable

[last parcel]

hitting quickplay and starting the match with randos like this

[shadow aurora]

I remember we were doing the library final event the other day and my team was holding off a small horde. I thought itd be fine if i went to do the objective since we were making progress very slowly and they all went down in like

40 seconds

[last parcel]

[shadow aurora]

The other vet was good but the ogryns we had didn't know how to play the game

[arctic rampart]

is dumdum still top tier blessing on recons or headhunter ? have infernus 3 locked

[faint beacon]

Truly the DT experience of all time

[last parcel]

if infernus is locked in, take headhunter

[faint beacon]

HeadHunter is the "BNB" needed blessing

HH + Inf or HH + DD

[radiant chasm]

that's a #🎒support-issues level name LOL

[arctic rampart]

yeah just messing around in test area and it seems not great still lul

37 bullets to take out crusher with headshots

(mk2 recon)

I tried it with & without onslaught and always rending. it was 37 bullets without onslaught, ~70 bullets without (but with rending still)

uhm... weapon specialist, voice of command, shredder nades, superiority complex, melee buffs

was debating the 30% headshot damgage vs supression so it might be that. I was taking suppression for the moment

superiority

I normally take it, but wasnt sure if I would need detrmined or not. Didnt have another point to get both

But its still gonna take like 30 shots even with it

I normally get longshot too but having both rending & onslaught sure makes your choices less flexible

Why not? I tested it before (w/ plasma) and it seemed like a good 1 poitner

Nah I like confirmed kill & close order drill

Is that a hidden nerf? The point still says the same thing

ah https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-42-1-4-2-patch-notes/96810 will also increase the power of specific Talents tied to Close Damage such as Veteran’s ‘Close Quarters Killzone’ and Zealot’s ‘Anoint in Blood’ which we will monitor closely.

This also nerfs Veteran’s Longshot talent because now the range in which attacks against enemies do not get buffed is pushed further to 12.5m (from 8m).

hmm thanks for the pointer, thats useful \o/

[junior needle]

[last parcel]

should've swapped gets hot for shattering impact

[arctic rampart]

if you're doing left click plasma and you should (two shots, reduce charge, two shots.. repeat) thermal resistance can be fully dump stat. I heard volatile is good if you are ads though

[faint beacon]

it doesn't have uncanny, I'd say take either or blessing off it seeing they're both T4's and make another MkVI if you can

[austere mica]

That isn't mine

This a quickplay vet's knife

[faint beacon]

I fucking weep

[last parcel]

thanks for explaining the joke

[austere mica]

This is mine (Zealot)

[arctic rampart]

yeah shatterin is much worse than gets hot. blaze away or the toughness one are the two most common

[austere mica]

Bad dump stat but like

377

[faint beacon]

well its better than the other one lmao

[arctic rampart]

its still blaze 3 though AFAIK. wish u could get 4

[placid portal]

Funny I have the same knife with blessing and refines

[austere mica]

Nice

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-bros-close-brothers-closer-gif-5348483

[austere mica]

Probably because its a good knife

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/it-doesnt-actually-exist-derek-muller-veritasium-its-not-real-theres-no-such-thing-gif-19714320

[arctic rampart]

The first time I made a plasma gun I wasted 2 million dockets trying to get 4 LUL

[placid portal]

I still suck at using mk6 knife

[last parcel]

[arctic rampart]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/yaUNa5XkmJ4AAAAC/dang-damn.gif

[placid portal]

Other darktide players: i spent 2 million ordos for a god roll

Me: 200k, take it or leave it

[austere mica]

Yeah

I have learned to settle for good enough

[arctic rampart]

u get that buy until plugin that deletes the crap for you and the dockets go much faster lul

[faint beacon]

100k, take it or leave it

[arctic rampart]

most of the people dont even pcik up plasteel anymore now

[placid portal]

Chad move: first weapon from brunt

[arctic rampart]

I get it since no company ever before has come out with less weapons n a game like this than fatshark

2 weapons a year you will fucking take it!

[placid portal]

My loot goblin brain compels me to pickup items

[arctic rampart]

me 2, but 50% of the people can't be bothered in auric

[austere mica]

I am constantly strapped for plasteel so I pick all of it up

[placid portal]

Even ammo while at 90% capacity

[arctic rampart]

Ive noticed especially ogryns don't pick up plasteel ever

[faint beacon]

not even, just seeing it in brunts shop, gotten 2, 375's Out of the Brunt's Picks

[placid portal]

Brunt is the empra's chosen Smith

[shadow urchin]

I've really been enjoying the bolt pistol on veteran. Folks keep saying its a worse revolver, but I ain't feeling that. Feels much nicer to doink gunners with when they're spaced out and I like the faster reload.

[placid portal]

You mean better bolt gun

[faint beacon]

it is in the sense of its handling and recoil, but I mean you really can't compare anything to the Zarona

[shadow urchin]

Maybe? Never used the bolt gun

[faint beacon]

cause the Zarona is just the best gun in the game hands down

[placid portal]

FS really over buffed it XD

[faint beacon]

Its literally a swiss army knife on all classes

[shadow urchin]

Then by that logic, every gun is a worse revolver, and I don't think its fair to single out the bolt pistol

[faint beacon]

its just THAT good

yeah, its why I dont like comparing the top tier meta weapons to like

so-so, or slight niche weapons

Zarona w/ Agri

or like

Plasma w/ Boltgun

there isn't a point

[shadow urchin]

Agri makes you feel like a cowboy, and there ain't nothing that compares there

I think outside of the similar MKs, making such comparisons isn't super helpful.

[faint beacon]

there's a reason I praise the AAIG and GIAG and fucking despise the CIAG

I might be a slight hipster in that regards

but I seriously despise how fucking STRONG the CIAG is

[shadow urchin]

(Although on the topic, I'm not too fond of the MKs that are the same gun but with different RoF/Damage per shot, I like when MKs are really novel takes on the same gun. Like folks may trash talk the Agri revolver but it is fundamentally different from Zarona while still being a revolver, which is A+ MKsmanship if I do say so myself).

I also have beef with the melee mks that are the same but with a slightly different moveset. I think they should at least have unique specials, considering the term.

[faint beacon]

Some of them do and some of them dont

I dont really mind that the Mks have different movesets, just... I think they need to find a balance around them

I mean to be fair they have with a handful of weapons

just some... others... tend to not follow that rule

[shadow urchin]

I just think MKs are a great opportunity for creating some wicked variations on a weapons core theme/concept, and a lot of the MKs FS has put out recently do a much better job of being more distinct in their own right.

[faint beacon]

Honestly good point I think they fucking NAILED the Mks with the picks and Shauls

[shadow urchin]

I would agree, good MKsmanship (Yes, I'm going to be using that term from now on, sorry).

(I'm not sorry)

[junior needle]

[tame lichen]

I still think revolver is the best primary weapon in the game

[austere mica]

Primary?

[tame lichen]

I treat guns as primary , melee secondary

[austere mica]

You weird

[tame lichen]

No sidearms in this game so

[austere mica]

Revolver is really stupidly good but other stuff can top it

[radiant chasm]

is precision strikes worth it on CIAG

revolver is one of the best all class weapons

[tall torrent]

Yes

[radiant chasm]

i have become abuser

[shadow urchin]

Ogryns: :c

[junior needle]

iag's have beeg finesse values

So it's especially useful on it

[thorn lark]

I should probably tell reddit that the boltgun is bad to earn karma.

Wait. What????

[junior needle]

It certainly feels bad

[thorn lark]

That's so stupid I never even considered trying it

[thorn lark]

not gonna lie draw time makes me want to not go back to melee

[prisma mesa]

is this thing useable without manstopper? I can move other things around but I'm not leveling up another veteran

I am

how tedious, what level do I need a vet? I'm tempted to delete my second brogryn to try for it

what level should I start gambling for it at? I've been 30 so long idk when blessing start t2

that's manageable I guess, time to see how long I can get my buddy to carry me

[quick harbor]

I’ve had a lot of success with this Using WS the both barrels blessing. Both barrels with WS and a reload speed perk suddenly makes the alt fire on this bad boy semi automatic (in 5 seconds spurts) and boy oh boy can you rip through some big boys with that, even crushers!

Sorry I meant to say maulers not crushers, reading this again it looks like you’re trying to make this a big boy stopper, clearly I’ve been using it for special and horde clear. And for that manstopper probably is necessary.

That said if you have the both barrels perk unlocked give this play style a shot, it’s so fun and you can always carry krak grenades .

[feral stratus]

I wish the perks were better, but this will work wonders

[crimson pebble]

Its taken be 15k and iv still not got it

20

Iv gotten every t2 blessing and nearly every t1 except it i even got manstopper from melk on the other shotguns before getting it

Fatshark stole all my luck when i got power cycler 4 on first powersword i tried to build

[midnight totem]

You can just wait for it to come up in brunt too

I've found several manstopper like that

[prisma mesa]

I've been looking for it on my zealot/psyker/vet for a week now, granted its only for the few hours I'm on but still no luck

[radiant chasm]

ok ciag

i still don't like the recoil

makes me think

def pumps damage tho

never gotten killstreak responses from blasting through horde to kill elites and specs

LMAO I wasn't even using the right one

what i was meant to use, vs what i used

[placid portal]

Columnus with graia pattern barrel is mad

[shadow urchin]

I think the Emperor likes me:

[real sorrel]

damn rng wanted me to have a good headhunter i guess lmao

[placid portal]

Nice got mine for mk4 variant

Blessing drumroll?

[real sorrel]

need to farm plasteelfirst ;-;

[placid portal]

[real sorrel]

ill update soon bb

[placid portal]

Mk7 is my favorite headhunter variant, still looking the the right one

Last one I used was crucian lvl2 and no respite

[junior needle]

Remember, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

[placid portal]

Also:

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[severe gale]

brick

[placid portal]

Woe, a brick upon yee

[last parcel]

bricc to pp

[crimson pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/sadly-pou-toy-sadly-pou-toys-pou-pou-toys-toys-gif-16878313337569838579

[placid portal]

That trend is some shit

[idle pecan]

did i just get blessed by melk?

[placid portal]

Dunno low stopping power

[idle pecan]

what does stopping power affect

[placid portal]

Damage modifiers like penetration stat vs armor

[hollow ibex]

honestly might be more important than the damage stat lol

[idle pecan]

so i s hould pass on it?

what melee is the best for light spam crowd clearing

ive been using pc4 mk3 power sword but i dont like how when i get hit it gets turned off

i also dont like how i have to power it up first before i swing

[hearty panther]

yeah but does it make sick as fuck lightning noises

power axe when

[idle pecan]

this one right

[hearty panther]

imagine splitting a pogryn down the middle

[idle pecan]

?

what does finesse affect

671...?

[real sorrel]

@placid portal F

[idle pecan]

got those too

[real sorrel]

i guess just keep crucian and crit damage and roll the other 2 lmao

[idle pecan]

so upgrade the 368 one

gotcha

?

bad?

im out of juice ill go do a run to get somore steel

gotcha

also, is shock maul good for crowd clearing?

i got one of these

i do it super often with power sword

[sharp epoch]

It feels like the crusher

[feral stratus]

How's the chain axe lately? I've never used it because everyone said it kinda sucks

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/bakamitai-dame-da-ne-gif-18169555

[feral stratus]

Damn, that sucks

I like the concept of the chain axe

I may give it a fair try when the crafting system gets the rework so I don't need to be rerolling

[umbral scaffold]

What should I do with this?

[sonic skiff]

whats a good meme build for the double barrel

rn i got combat specialist and shout with deathspitter scatter

[feral stratus]

Close quarters kill zone

[junior needle]

It's painful to watch but probably change slaught to brutal or sunder, there's a large difference in effectiveness

Brutal can let you double your bruisers killed in a swing, sunder gives you extra damage on the heavies but most importantly gives you a dickload more cleave for hitstun. Also lets your swings continue despite hitting carapace.

[sonic skiff]

ahh unlucky, gotta make a new char

is it manstopper + scatter?

weapon specialist uses it well

super good to get one in the barrel after a single kill

i guess full shotgun meme build would be deadshot+focus target+ executioners to just destroy something

[feral stratus]

Is there a resource somewhere to see all the available blessings for a weapon?

Just curious

Thank you

[sonic skiff]

whats the usual build for double barrel?

bet

i was running deadshot then realized i dont rightcvlick basically ever

moved a few points to grab ammo aura

appreciate it, cant wait to donkeyroll for manstopper

[idle pecan]

did this get bricked @formal lake

[junior needle]

It's close though

[idle pecan]

also when building a hellbore, what one is the best

is the mk2 the best?

[hearty panther]

1 and 2 for kriegs roleplay

[idle pecan]

What are the dump stats on mk2

[cerulean linden]

the blessing are good, replace sprint with Elite dmg or flak

[idle pecan]

i just rolled an insane one with dogshit stopping power

[torpid grotto]

I dont get the unarmored pick just to make bruiser clear not take 2 stacks of headtaker

Like youre giving up carapace or unyielding

I dont think so, its just 2 swings to get your stack

Assuming you dont already have it

Idk, bruisers are totally unthreatening

Huh

[thorn lark]

I want to do that but I already have 4 characters T_T

[jovial aurora]

are either of these must grabs?

[torpid grotto]

I play with healthbar mod (chesting) and crusher health is basically totally random during a fight

[jovial aurora]

or just pc4 and bromentum

[tall torrent]

sunder is good

[jovial aurora]

i have pc4 already

word thanks guys

i'll grind it out

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-wallet-empty-cashless-gif-16030892

[torpid grotto]

The 25% bonus matters, so many crushers run around with like 30 health

[jovial aurora]

also which mk of this thing is the best "feeling"

[sonic skiff]

is it best to just roll a new vet and roll for manstopper then

[placid portal]

Gotta love it when the zealot ignores medicae with 1 wound left

[sonic skiff]

oh god lvl 19

i dont think i can suffer through playing psyker for 19 levels for it

ehhhh thats not awful

still a pain

[real sorrel]

lads do we know if boltpistol with bleed blessing and +20% explosion AOE, does it bleed everyone hit by AOE or just the main shot?

i cri

from last used weapon?

[zenith sequoia]

Best blessings to run on new shock mauls?

Very nice, I noticed just normal attacks have a lighting affect but does high voltage only work with the special?

[idle pecan]

is this worth upgrading

[placid portal]

Not a bad spread

[idle pecan]

arent ammo and stability irrelivent due to it being charge fire and a lazgun

[junior needle]

Being a lasgun doesn't necessarily mean it has good ammo efficiency, see pre-buff recons as a fine example

Helbores are quite solid on that end with surgical/shocktrooper however

[vivid cedar]

what is this new recon build i keep seeing...

[pastel yew]

hellbore mk3 is the one with the shit melee right?

two of em have the thrust then one of em is a real ass slash

[junior needle]

There's no new recon build

[junior needle]

They were buffed numerically, nothing else has changed

[vivid cedar]

ah. and because people saw a slight buff they have gone to flashlight spam...

[junior needle]

It was a pretty sizable buff

[little path]

yeah

mk 1 and 2 are the best

[junior needle]

All the models were adjusted thankfully, although the 6d got the short end of the stick

[little path]

mk1 is considered absolute best if you can get mega good rolls on it since it still 1 shots most things with fastest charge rate

[radiant chasm]

Mk3 is for people who are too cool for plasma gun

Which is 100% acceptable

[fresh saddle]

i've been finding that Helbore 1/2 bayostab doesn't stagger Ragers anymore

[woeful ibex]

Auric Loot

Is the blessing ok?

[radiant chasm]

Rampage for sunder or BM

[fresh saddle]

that's okay i prefer brutal momentum to cleave multiple groaner heads but nothing wrong with Rampage, it works

[junior needle]

Brutal gets you twice the amount of bruisers killed in a swing

If you can get head height

[severe gale]

i’d say sunder, because it’s a mk3

[pastel yew]

but the mk3 is the one with all that PUNCH

also holy shit

marksmans focus is finally not bad

for a marksman weapon

it makes up for the like 20 damage you're missing because of long shot being nerfed for the plasma gun

on gunners

[marble mantle]

Does helbore and bayonet proc WS or just AE

[last parcel]

just ae

[marble mantle]

Rip

[placid portal]

The condition is technically needing to swap weapons unlike agile engagement

[strange summit]

How hard is it to get Power Cycler these days? I've made probably 10 350+ swords without any luck

[wicked epoch]

I had to sacrifice my firstborn child

[strange summit]

Maybe I can borrow my neighbors

[severe gale]

doesn’t work

it has to be urs

[pastel yew]

power cycler 3? not that bad...

4?...

I hope you've got a lot of plasteel

best you can do is get a high base and upgrade all the way

[vivid cedar]

i think i got it from melk in the shop.

[pastel yew]

a lot of people say to just upgrade until you get the first blessing but that is bait

[strange summit]

Cool, thanks, I'll keep trying then

[pastel yew]

if its just 3 you're after then I'd go for just one blessing per weapon

then scrap and make another

you just have a far higher chance of t4 on your second blessing from what I am aware

at least you can keep the power swords that come out okay, and stick power cycler on one of those when you get it

[strange summit]

Oh, 4 gives an extra swing? Well, 4 can be a long term goal then

[pastel yew]

yeah

[strange summit]

Crazy how OP they made that blessing

[pastel yew]

honestly 3 is still aight, 4 is a lot better

and yeah its so stupid

there are a handful of blessings that are hyper specific and strong

surge for the voidstrike (only has a t4 variant), power cycler, manstopper on the new shotty

manstopper only has tier 2 so funnily enough being high level fucks you

[strange summit]

Yep, they opened a can of worms when releasing officially in beta.

[pearl rapids]

Are bleeds worth taking as a weapons specialist? I've got agile engagement anyway, and there's a bonus against bleeding enemies on my knife (I can change it to something else if there's a better blessing)

[junior needle]

Eh, surge isn't that great since it's rng and only does an uncharged shot

I think charge speed/warp nexus is better personally

[pastel yew]

counterpoint: it's incredibly strong

honestly I wouldn't be surprised if charge speed and warp nexus was better

but it's definitely not as satisfying

[junior needle]

If you were going to spam uncharged shots anyway then it's strong

But those lack in cleave and damage

[pastel yew]

also are you sure it only does uncharged shots?

[junior needle]

Ye I'm pretty sure the extra is uncharged

[pastel yew]

I guess it doesn't matter either way since it makes breakpoints to one shot everything that isn't a boss

[junior needle]

Unless something has changed

[pastel yew]

maybe muties

I actually am unsure on mutants as I never shoot them

[junior needle]

I can check it again

[pastel yew]

regardless it's enough to make crushers n such one hits rather than two

also sounds great

the only time I've ever had someone beat me on the scoreboard when I was playing plasmagun vet (that wasn't another plasmagun) was surge voidstrike

that's why I built it in the first place

it's definitely not better

guy was just a fucking god

but it's still very very good

[junior needle]

Huh, seems like it does mimic your charged shot now

Definitely a massive improvement over how it used to be, and now it has 5% crit chance too

[thorn lark]

psykers have done the maths, nexus flurry is more constant dps and surge + nexus more burst dps... and the former outdps the latter a bit iirc

[pastel yew]

does it matter though? if you're able to put out at almost plasma gun levels of nukery

[thorn lark]

no it does not

[pastel yew]

mhm, surge definitely more fun for me at leastr

[thorn lark]

i have used both and it's still ridiculous

[pastel yew]

I like the random chance nuke

it did get buffed last patch I think? +5% crit

[thorn lark]

i only use surge or purga now

surge gas + 5 crit yeah

[pastel yew]

so maybe its more even... i have no idea... I have no idea why surge was even buffed in the first place -_-

[thorn lark]

i love surge, it's my way to fuck elites to no end

i mean the staff

void is too much plasma

[pastel yew]

mhm

yeah I mean voidstaff is like... essentially the same weapon just for psyker and worse

[shadow dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/3R8G3qblC4

holy civil bot clutch discourse

[crimson pebble]

So manstopper only goes to t2 right and it has +15% stagger but when looking at the blessings on gameslatern it says it can be anywhere from 10-25% stgger they just bugging or

[last parcel]

it exists up to t4 in the game but isn't accessible

they also include other unobtainable blessings which apparently exist as well

[crimson pebble]

Tbh tho what would bug out wouldnt be the greatest prob why it was dropped or they waiting to put it on a diff weapon

[pastel yew]

similar deal with the shotgun flechette blessing

bug out sounds funny for that like...

infinite stamina vet build

where you get stamina for dodging attacks, and you take the blessing that makes you dodge attacks while sprinting over a certain threshold of stamina

become speed

[crimson pebble]

In other news after bit under 17k steel iv finally gotten manstopper

[trail totem]

🧱 ?

[crimson pebble]

Cooked

Major cooked

[shadow dagger]

what

[trail totem]

you're supposed to get it for 17k dockets not plasteel

you mixed those up

[crimson pebble]

It was worth it

[shadow dagger]

I thought everyone had already either leveled a new character to 20 or waited until armory rolled it to get it by now

[crimson pebble]

No no i had to lvl a new character to lvl 20 aswell just for it

I did get manstopper for the other shotgun from melk while trying tho

[trail totem]

just made me another copy of what i already have what da heeeel

[pastel yew]

what does +flak even do for the laspistol

it's already got a pretty sizeable bonus to flak no

never really used the mk 10

since the mk2 is beloved

[trail totem]

ever since they nerfed mk2 fire rate it just doesnt feel right

[junior needle]

Ghost/dumdum would be the best setup, especially if you're leveraging deadshot/dnd shenanigans

[trail totem]

i tried hitting some stupid mauler bodyshot breakpoint i think. dont really remember what i wanted

[junior needle]

Infernus is a trap on anything except bosses

Crit chance is a good generalist pick on the laspee

[trail totem]

does it still proc dumdum with every dot tick or was that fixed

[thorn lark]

I am leveling a second psyker. I fear I'll get it in the shop tomorrow.

[junior needle]

Just checked and it still does, but it's only a minor benefit

[lusty sapphire]

What do I want on this?

[thorn lark]

Just wait for crafting update

[lusty sapphire]

perk wise. As for blessings I'm playing with these for now

[hollow warren]

I know this ain't perfect but hey, a 550 is a 550

[austere mica]

Swap Slaughterer to sunder or brutal momentum

[junior needle]

The rating is largely superfluous

[last parcel]

rating makes my pp hard

[junior needle]

I would advise switching slaught for brudal

[austere mica]

Also that locked infested roll is super iffy

[junior needle]

It can double your bruisers killed in a swing

[austere mica]

I don’t think it does anything

Except like, dogs when your sword is uncharged

[hollow warren]

Will try Sunder, don't have t4 Bromentum yet

[austere mica]

You don’t really need t4, ratings on bromentum are largely superfluous

[last parcel]

yeah but 550

[austere mica]

Yeah

I have like

2 things about 530

Maybe 3

It’s my plasma, power sword, and Ironhelm

I might have another

Maybe my purgatus

[hollow warren]

I also have this, but have yet to unlock Surgical t4

gonna be 550 too when I do

even though I don't use it

because plasma gun go woosh

[austere mica]

I have a plasma missing a single point of thermal resistance

[last parcel]

[austere mica]

It’s 80/80/80/80/59

[placid portal]

Mk3 is fun if you get onslaught stacks rolling

[austere mica]

But I never use it because it’s sleepy as hell

[hollow warren]

here's my plasma gun

[placid portal]

Ngl i never touched plasma

[austere mica]

Charge rate dump

Worst thing I have seen today

[hollow warren]

wha

[austere mica]

Good

Sleepy as hell

[hollow warren]

who uses charged attacks on plasma guns?

that's right. nobody

[austere mica]

It affects primary fire you goober

Read descriptions

[last parcel]

it's like 1 frame difference and that could just be due to the recording software used

[hollow warren]

the difference though is so minute, you don't even need it.

45% charge rate - Hip Fire Charge Speed: 0.78s
80% charge rate - Hip Fire Charge Speed: 0.60s

[austere mica]

That’s 25% slower

I think

[hollow warren]

I'm not some min-maxing goon to care so much about a 0.18s per shot charge speed difference

it performs well on auric maelstroms, that's enough for me

[austere mica]

I’m the crazy ass who legitimately considers running Volatile

Next thing on my laundry list of weapons I want is a Ciag

Or a mk6 knife

[plush hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[hollow warren]

so I just checked the difference in dumping 8 shots with a 45% charge rate (0.78s) and a 76% charge rate (0.62s). both have 80% thermal res.

the gun with 45% dumped 8 shots in 6.79s
the gun with 76% dumped 8 shots in 6.19s

so I fail to see how a difference of roughly 0.6s makes any significant impact during a mission

[hollow warren]

I suppose you mean using hellbore with weapon specialist

[last parcel]

[trail totem]

can this one be saved still

[lusty sapphire]

Tbf

Keep the blessings

Change the perks

[trail totem]

already have this

[lusty sapphire]

Bromentum doesn't do much on the tac axes

[last parcel]

then just keep the other one for crafting rework

[thorn lark]

False

You got melee DMG nodes and talents to ramp up you Crit chance high enough to reach the BP you want

It's a bit different on the psyker where you're reliant on either warp charges or scryer. But you already have better options.

But power blessing + shred is also valid

[lusty sapphire]

I say it cause you'd get more out of a shred

[thorn lark]

You have to stack shred tho