0 clue who that is lmao
#veteran-class
faint beacon
last parcel
you'll know if you meet them
faint beacon
Hell I’ve been playing Battlefield 1 a bunch lately again as well
lilac mesa
spoon
last parcel
clear lantern
fresh saddle
median swift
that seems like a lot of cleave
thorn lark
keep wrath, ss doesn't play well with x13
junior needle
Wrath is mandatory for light spam, although now you can apparently do a L/H alternating combo with the 13
shadow dagger
please tell me theres a mod for having 2 keybinds per action
umbral scaffold
No, keep both. You need an uncomfortable amount of cleave. You need more cleave than can be conceived of by the human mind.
true trellis
please tell me theres a mod for having 2 keybinds per action
No but you can set up the two buttons to do the same input in your operating system
umbral scaffold
And don't forget to keybind enemy tagging to your left-click. The people love that.
last parcel
please tell me theres a mod for having 2 keybinds per action
just got finished today
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/337
true trellis
just got finished today
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/337
insane
shadow dagger
im mostly just whining because i keep forgetting to burn my focus target stacks during exe stance because theyre already highlighted
somber axle
Bind every single button to ping
shadow dagger
ill grab it if i really do need it later
somber axle
Become more powerful than the left click ping people
last parcel
i just tag without thinking so that was never a problem
bitter turtle
Citrus 🤔
shadow dagger
considering that i still have tag bound to t
true trellis
WASD tag...
shadow dagger
my left hand just kinda doesnt have the bandwidth for that xd
ive been managing for the past few hundred hours
median swift
No, keep both. You need an uncomfortable amount of cleave. You need more cleave ...
how much cleave do I need for a full 360 degree cleave
last parcel
you need to C the enemies
shadow dagger
but i swapped to mouse5 and i am... suffering a lil bit
i have dodge on m4 and my thumb cant think on its proverbial feet that well
umbral scaffold
how much cleave do I need for a full 360 degree cleave
true trellis
i have dodge on m4 and my thumb cant think on its proverbial feet that well
Why would you have dodge on m4
Whaat
last parcel
idk that seems popular for some reason
umbral scaffold
My dodge is bound to print screen
median swift
https://tenor.com/view/sanditon-sanditon-season2-esther-babington-esther-esther-...
just let the ogryn throw me into the horde with all my cleave
somber axle
Change your dodge and jump keybinds so you don't accidentally jump when you meant to dodge. Change jump to left click so you jump every time you shoot
umbral scaffold
just let the ogryn throw me into the horde with all my cleave
true trellis
I've got dodge jump and crouch on my left thumb
umbral scaffold
Change your dodge and jump keybinds so you don't accidentally jump when you mean...
Now that's the smartest thing you've said all day.
median swift
umbral scaffold
https://tenor.com/view/gimli-gif-27479445
Woah, I love Star Trek.
somber axle
Now that's the smartest thing you've said all day.
That's usually not a very high bar so it's easy for me to top it
umbral scaffold
That's usually not a very high bar so it's easy for me to top it
And that's why there are so many bottoms.
marble mantle
Just need to change special to maniac but I’m very happy with this
umbral scaffold
Just need to change special to maniac but I’m very happy with this
Ah, the GOAT shotgun.
last parcel
marble mantle
Me @ snipers
umbral scaffold
It’s like a sniper it’s ridiculous
I agree with you. It's an A-tier weapon that is heavily slept on.
hearty panther
its pretty good now
marble mantle
Now I’m working on getting my lawbringer, which is another pain entirely, but it will be so worth
hearty panther
the dubbarrel probably has me stolen away forever though
marble mantle
Lawbringer is so fuckin fun for horde clear
hearty panther
as far as shotguns go
last parcel
turn off your bodycam before engaging 
marble mantle
the dubbarrel probably has me stolen away forever though
I already got a great db lol
umbral scaffold
the dubbarrel probably has me stolen away forever though
I love the super shotgun, but good lord it sucks lol
marble mantle
turn off your bodycam before engaging <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
It was never on to begin with
marble mantle
turn off your bodycam before engaging <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Is that a mod though?
hearty panther
dont double fire so much
marble mantle
That seems like a fun mod
hearty panther
two left clicks takes care of pretty much everything at any reasonable distance
last parcel
Is that a mod though?
it's a reshade overlay
umbral scaffold
dont double fire so much
That's the thing- I don't lol. The double-fire isn't even that good, to be honest.
marble mantle
it's a reshade overlay
Wish I was on pc
hearty panther
yeah its a gimmick
marble mantle
Y’all are wild, both barrels is crazy
umbral scaffold
I wouldn't hate it so much if it weren't for the animation glitches
hearty panther
but if you do happen to find yourself kissing a reaper with the barrels
umbral scaffold
Y’all are wild, both barrels is crazy
overrated and unnecessary most of the time.
hearty panther
it works
marble mantle
overrated and unnecessary most of the time.
Overrated..?
umbral scaffold
Listen, the shotgun works.
But the animation glitches are BRUTAL.
umbral scaffold
Overrated..?
Yeah, everyone seems to love both barrels for some reason. It's really not that great.
hearty panther
i mean it looks goofy but it doesn't affect performance at all
marble mantle
Yeah, everyone seems to love both barrels for some reason. It's really not that ...
Idk man I just like it cuz it’s fuckin fun
Strong as hell too
Manstopper and BB
Clear a horde like its Swiss cheese
placid portal
turn off your bodycam before engaging <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Heresy how can empra rate your purging in live vox
marble mantle
Any horde
umbral scaffold
I agree with you. The super shotgun is very fun, but it's like C-tier.
last parcel
Heresy how can empra rate your purging in live vox
He is not limited by the pict caster
scattershot manstopper executioner's stance horde clear
umbral scaffold
i mean it looks goofy but it doesn't affect performance at all
When my camera gets pulled into the floor from an animation glitch, that's a huge problem.
placid portal
Lawbringer do be a fun hoarde cutter
hearty panther
oh that issue
marble mantle
scattershot manstopper executioner's stance horde clear <:chadgryn:1161142998214...
This what I’m doin with lawbringer
Not exe stance but
placid portal
scattershot manstopper executioner's stance horde clear <:chadgryn:1161142998214...
It'd be funny if you can get multiple exhil stacks with it
marble mantle
VOC since it feels like most breach and clear
placid portal
Unfortunately that wasnt the case 
marble mantle
Lawbringer do be a fun hoarde cutter
Very much so, aim it at a head and you mow it like grass
Honestly I would like exe stance more if I didn’t lose it the second I pulled out my melee weapon
placid portal
Heck I'd even argue you do better performances at further ranges when needed unlike double shotty
faint beacon
VOC since it feels like most breach and clear
Infil + Lawbringer
marble mantle
Yk MF on lawbringer would probably be so easy to keep up
placid portal
What counts as weakpoint kills on shotgun are weird iirc when shooting into hoardes 😂
shadow aurora
https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781
AIDISISJSKKXJS
I RUN LAWBRINGER INFIL TOO
so based bestie
last parcel
lament pond
Almost T_T
shadow aurora
Almost T_T
Am i the only one that sees a guy with long eyes and flat eyebrows
I never thought it looked like a crying guy
tall torrent
@faint beacon u wanna play
thorn lark
i would say it's the same for taxe, especially the mk7 and mk2. You'll be PAing a lot and dodging as much... so with desperation + momentum is basically +25 to 35% dmg all the time
tall torrent
i would say it's the same for taxe, especially the mk7 and mk2. You'll be PAing ...
yea
stoic mantle
Dutch, you in here yet?
indigo mural
o/
Yeah I got alv30 Psyker and the skills on that character I can sorta feel what'd fit with my playstyle but Veteran is all over the place
I do really enjoy the revolver though, plasma gun is just incredibly slow and feels clunky
stoic mantle
Veteran really has 2 main playstyles as far as i'm concerned
indigo mural
I just want to be able to efficiently take out Specials since most teams suffer from those and not the regular enemies
stoic mantle
you can either be the careful special deleter or the crackhead everything deleter
indigo mural
both sound pretty gud
as of now I'm lv17 but I'd love to see the builds/differences
stoic mantle
let me boot up and look at my saved talent sheets
Also, for melee I really really like Mk4 devil's claw
indigo mural
I'm using one of the chainswords now since the damage has been very good to me
tall torrent
i should probably try a all or nothing taxe play
it's not that consistent unfortunately
radiant chasm
as of now I'm lv17 but I'd love to see the builds/differences
at level 17 you should focus on experimenting and finding weapon types that are fun for you
basically everything is usuable on the highest difficulties
stoic mantle
I don't like the combos of the chainswords and the special feels slow
stoic mantle
basically everything is usuable on the highest difficulties
Veteran is blessed like that
stoic mantle
IDK there are some weapons that feel really just bleh
radiant chasm
not the whole roster
bleh and usuable 2 different things
i guess avoid the autopistol?
faint beacon
<@820414945543716944> u wanna play
Cooking give me like.... tops 15ish minutes
radiant chasm
only weapon i can think on vet that is jsut worse than other options
faint beacon
Farming Aurics for more Ordos if you're cool with that
tall torrent
Farming Aurics for more Ordos if you're cool with that
That’s fine we got a 3rd
Are u gonna vc
stoic mantle
The newer laspistol feels pretty shit to use, too
radiant chasm
🤷
stoic mantle
the really fucking slow one
faint beacon
I could, I might not talk much but yeah
radiant chasm
it's still a laspistol
faint beacon
but anyways I'll be back in like 15ish mins
indigo mural
you use revolver?
stoic mantle
oh yeah
its objectively busted.
with the correct blessings you can guarantee crits with 60% rending
indigo mural
what's rending
stoic mantle
Basically armor penetration
indigo mural
Ah
thorn lark
it's not that consistent unfortunately
I use BM shred on taxe.... Can it be less consistent than shred?
indigo mural
and what build might that be 👀
tall torrent
but anyways I'll be back in like 15ish mins
Ok 
stoic mantle
Do you know about the different armor types?
peak stone
whats the difference between staggering and stunning an enemy
tall torrent
I use BM shred on taxe.... Can it be less consistent than shred?
The main issue is that getting hit while <50% stamina regens 1 bar of stamina per dmg instance received
peak stone
asking because working on gud power maul perks
what are people's experiences with this perk
thorn lark
The main issue is that getting hit while <50% stamina regens 1 bar of stamina pe...
ah damn, and i run 3stam + 36 stam regen speed
stoic mantle
what are people's experiences with this perk
Finnicky to get used to but absolutely goated against ragers
tall torrent
ah damn, and i run 3stam + 36 stam regen speed
Yea
peak stone
Finnicky to get used to but absolutely goated against ragers
good to know
thorn lark
so yeaaahhh
indigo mural
So the snub revolver gets better atleast, okok, I'll give it another chance haha. very satisfying to use other than having to reload for 30 yrs
civic knot
Any reason you want hammerblow rather than falter? does it matter that much?
indigo mural
Is there a snub revolver specialist deleter build here somewhere?
lilac mesa
any brokeheads in chat
thorn lark
and apparently, you got better results than falter with it
civic knot
makes sc proce more consistently
isnt it good without it tho? you can just hit em in the head and u will stagger
glacial yacht
any brokeheads in chat
thorn lark
well, you will be stacking sc yeah, but probably not as fast
stoic mantle
@indigo mural this is the build I've been using with the new shock maul and double barrel
last parcel
any brokeheads in chat
melk took all my money
thorn lark
don't forget each enemy has its own stagger threshold as well
stoic mantle
it can be tweaked to suit other weapons or gain more survivability
indigo mural
<@288050730667868161> this is the build I've been using with the new shock maul ...
really all I needed yeah, I can be creative with the rest, thx
civic knot
well, you will be stacking sc yeah, but probably not as fast
how many levels of stagger are there?
thorn lark
<@288050730667868161> this is the build I've been using with the new shock maul ...
apprently rending helps a lot with dmg fallof
thorn lark
how many levels of stagger are there?
man if only i knew.... maybe @tall torrent has an idea?
tall torrent
man if only i knew.... maybe <@366562874039992331> has an idea?
I don’t
thorn lark
it can be tweaked to suit other weapons or gain more survivability
you should try deadshot db shotgun... for those time you are not swapping or just chaining rmb... it's glorious
tall torrent
Usually it’s considered 3 stages?
stoic mantle
really all I needed yeah, I can be creative with the rest, thx
Just keep in mind what each build is trying to do, like this build wants you to get into the thick of things with your team
tall torrent
Smth like that
indigo mural
Just keep in mind what each build is trying to do, like this build wants you to ...
Yeah I'm just going for specialist deleter
stoic mantle
you should try deadshot db shotgun... for those time you are not swapping or jus...
This exact build might not be the best jam for you then, but you could fairly easily slot in a good revolver
indigo mural
Which part do I focus here first?
indigo mural
This exact build might not be the best jam for you then, but you could fairly ea...
Yeah I adjusted it a little bit haha
stoic mantle
krak grenades are great for dealing with carapace dudes, though
indigo mural
How the hell do you zoom out
Took this one instead of the team one you had
also skipping this one
So I got the gist of it haha
stoic mantle
WS first, since the bonuses from switching back and forth is what makes the build
thorn lark
This exact build might not be the best jam for you then, but you could fairly ea...
that's my rashad + db build (works with psword too)
indigo mural
or does the revolver do enough damage that it's not needed?
stoic mantle
LNOB is ok, as you go up in difficulty the extra grenade gets more appealing though
I'd still recommend it with revolver
since it plays directly into the WS playstyle
stoic mantle
that's my rashad + db build (works with psword too)
db? is that the hacker? The new shotgun?
tall torrent
@faint beacon u on?
indigo mural
pretty much have this right now @stoic mantle
seems ''ok'', will just continue lvling it for now
lot of options that are not bad at all
tall torrent
@severe gale strike team 1 vc
thorn lark
db? is that the hacker? The new shotgun?
yes
stoic mantle
That's what the build I showed is using
thorn lark
Veteran has a ton of options
vet feels so less constraint than zealot to build
thorn lark
That's what the build I showed is using
yea, it's stealth shotgun build
stoic mantle
Vet can actually do it all
thorn lark
sadly stealh is damn costly
thorn lark
Vet can actually do it all
on zealot i have like 3 builds and only the loadout and maybe one or two perks are changing
i have 10 on vet and i wish i could add more
stoic mantle
Stealth is really good for WS and for carrying though
stealth to do objectives or pick people up is preem
radiant chasm
stealth to drop aggro and flank shooters, elites and specs has carried me through all my vet games recently
coral willow
i have 10 on vet and i wish i could add more
you can, i have like 15 builds on zealot
thorn lark
oh btw you can change the max in the mod?
coral willow
yes
last parcel
oh btw you can change the max in the mod?
thorn lark
i should look into that
coral willow
i removdd the limit up to uh
thorn lark
i let it at default so 10?
fleet thicket
mk4 great
I was checking
Mk13 got way higher
Damage with its rev attack like
250 extra damage
coral willow
its vertical
fleet thicket
2 revs kills crusher
coral willow
i dont like the anims tho
fleet thicket
While on chainsword 4 it's 3 I bleive
fleet thicket
its vertical
No if you check the shredder stat
The new chainsword got much higher rev damage
thorn lark
Damage with its rev attack like
you won't be reving all the time
coral willow
No if you check the shredder stat
all mk4 heavy is horizontal
all mk13 heavy is vertical
rev damage reflects that
fleet thicket
all mk4 heavy is horizontal
Yeah but you clear with its lights on mk13 anyway
coral willow
same goes for mk2 rev vs mk15 rev on evis
coral willow
Yeah but you clear with its lights on mk13 anyway
you want wrath
fleet thicket
Oh I see okay
thorn lark
wrath is a rampage enabler on x13
winter grove
The new chainsword got much higher rev damage
Mk13 got strikedowns
Mk4 heavies aren't strikedowns
coral willow
meanwhile mk4 can cope with shred + rampage if they want, i run wrath on mk4 too cause i enjoy lightspamming with it
fleet thicket
wrath is a rampage enabler on x13
Rampage and savage sweep I got on mk4
I see okay
coral willow
mk4 heavy has enough cleave for savage sweep
thorn lark
meanwhile mk4 can cope with shred + rampage if they want, i run wrath on mk4 too...
Actually considering how crits adm works with the chord.... rampage shred on mk4 is goated
coral willow
mk13 light doesnt have enough at all for savage sweep
coral willow
Actually considering how crits adm works with the chord.... rampage shred on mk4...
but i have wrath so
radiant chasm
chsword has the fastest chaffe horde clear in the game
civic knot
Can it be worth to invest into flak instead of keeping unyielding? That will make this thing reach a lower minimum attacks needed to kill certain human flak elites. It will even give it a 1 hit breakpoint for flak shotgunners on strikedown heavy
radiant chasm
and on all chswords iirc, crit damage doesn't fall off
coral willow
chsword has the fastest chaffe horde clear in the game
just give me a shovel
radiant chasm
Can it be worth to invest into flak instead of keeping unyielding? That will mak...
hammerblow to high voltage or skullcrusher
civic knot
hammerblow to high voltage or skullcrusher
thats not my question
I am already gonna change lightning reflexes
rigid pilot
Unyielding damage on Saul is ass
civic knot
Unyielding damage on Saul is ass
good, thx
radiant chasm
just give me a shovel
shovel clears horde much slower than chsword
civic knot
thats all i needed to know
radiant chasm
why change lightning reflexes
last parcel
coral willow
Unyielding damage on Saul is ass
i go for maniac unyielding cause thats where sauls sucl
radiant chasm
it's an amazing boost and it has good utility, best of both worlds
radiant chasm
true
civic knot
do you need hammerblow 4 to reach any specific minimum attacks needed for stagger on any enemy?
rigid pilot
I would just never use sauls against vs any kind of unyielding
coral willow
ragers
thorn lark
but i have wrath so
fleet thicket
I needed unyielding damage man this thing does potato damage against bosses
radiant chasm
do you need hammerblow 4 to reach any specific minimum attacks needed for stagge...
not really, no, you can just special if you need stagger
coral willow
i still have wrath sorry
rigid pilot
not really, no, you can just special if you need stagger
This is not realistic in rager swarms
coral willow
ye
rigid pilot
Hammerblow is real
civic knot
not really, no, you can just special if you need stagger
wont be needed with hammerblow
radiant chasm
This is not realistic in rager swarms
well you are a veteran, you timed block
and then you swap to ranged
or you just bash em while they are stunned
thorn lark
have you seen those insane number for flak? (armored)
coral willow
that blessing is goated
rigid pilot
I mean I wouldn't run BOTH hammerblow and lightning but
radiant chasm
hammerblow is just cringe compared to double damage/power like
fleet thicket
This is not realistic in rager swarms
At that point have my lawbringer shotgun and special spam xD
radiant chasm
oh yea def not both
coral willow
hammerblow exists
fleet thicket
God maces such against mix horde situations
rigid pilot
Hammerblow SC is very respectable
radiant chasm
high voltage procs from any swing that makes a zapping noise, including normal ones
rigid pilot
Or hammerblow HV
radiant chasm
skullcrusher just gets silly numbers eventually
fleet thicket
high voltage procs from any swing that makes a zapping noise, including normal o...
WHAT????
radiant chasm
nah if you are going hammerblow
fleet thicket
YOU serious???
radiant chasm
YOU serious???
yes
fleet thicket
I thought it was just the special
radiant chasm
the normal swings that zap apply a 0 dps shock debuff
fleet thicket
Goddam
rigid pilot
SC HV is the funny 100% damage buff lmao
civic knot
@radiant chasm Is there any other build for maces that rivals SC + HB?
inland orchid
Mm the shockmaul does in fact shock 
radiant chasm
the shock debuff from special has a dot
coral willow
sauls kinda never stun long enough for skullcrusher to be useful alone imho
radiant chasm
<@301217938306760704> Is there any other build for maces that rivals SC + HB?
HV+LR or SC+HV or SC+LR
rigid pilot
SC swings fast enough
coral willow
HV+LR best fight me
rigid pilot
But I use agri
indigo mural
Just to confirm, this is just melee?
radiant chasm
only time you willingly go hammerblow imo is when you
rigid pilot
I love HV LR too
radiant chasm
fym bad
fleet thicket
But its best I got right now
rigid pilot
Mainly because LR is funny
civic knot
LR is a little cringe.... Im not gonna waste time I could use killing to proc a blessing
radiant chasm
Just to confirm, this is just melee?
ranged damage closer than 12.5 M
rigid pilot
There's no timing lol
radiant chasm
LR is a little cringe.... Im not gonna waste time I could use killing to proc a ...
the timed block is amazing vs rager groups
rigid pilot
Lemme dig
indigo mural
Thx
radiant chasm
it's not a single target stun
coral willow
close damage doesnt increase melee? thats sad
radiant chasm
it's a front cone
indigo mural
What's Melee Finesse Bonus? haha
radiant chasm
close damage doesnt increase melee? thats sad
it does
fleet thicket
Perks
coral willow
then my vet is goooood
radiant chasm
What's Melee Finesse Bonus? haha
finesse bonus on talents and blessings increase critical damage and weakspot damage
coral willow
the only bad thing on it, is groaners
my saul has maniac unyielding on it
thorn lark
close dmg is all dmg
coral willow
and HV LR changed on it
fleet thicket
which isn't even dead on vet
Wait this is usable ?
radiant chasm
Wait this is usable ?
yes lmao
fleet thicket
What perks you run ?
radiant chasm
don't get twisted
with thinking you NEED best in slot blessings
to be usuable lmao
you can clear in really shit gear/white gear
coral willow
to be usuable lmao
nooo but my 4444 380 modifier gear!!!!!!!
thorn lark
finesse bonus on talents and blessings increase critical damage and weakspot dam...
but finesse modifier is different smh
radiant chasm
Wait this is usable ?
you are 3/4 bis with less than 10 off any damage stat
the finesse modifier on a weapon stat affects the above and also attack speed
as well as veteran struggling a bit with hordes cornering you anyways, it certainly isn't a wasted perk
just not very good
thorn lark
and critspot mutiplier
radiant chasm
but who cares
fleet thicket
you can clear in really shit gear/white gear
I seee btw what perks you run I heard from people flak is redundant apprrntly it's elite and manaic ?
radiant chasm
and critspot mutiplier
affects the above
thorn lark
oh sorry
radiant chasm
i'm not gonna boot up my game when it's 9pm to check but i think mine is flakiac
anyways, LR stun is huge and i suggest you go test it in game
before you discount it
fleet thicket
I'm so shocked high voltage works on everything I thought its just special only
radiant chasm
and then it's just free power
thorn lark
can confirm, and contrary to the claw, nobody can eat your parry
radiant chasm
if it was only the stun ok i get it
rigid pilot
LR is cool, but mainly because I started to block more in games
civic knot
@radiant chasm wait so what is this blessing combo u are advocating for?
radiant chasm
but it's power on top of the stun
rigid pilot
LR vs bulwark swarms is great too
radiant chasm
<@301217938306760704> wait so what is this blessing combo u are advocating for?
my final decision on blessing combo is LR+ HV or SC
rigid pilot
Block their shield bash
radiant chasm
LR does not just stun the target that you blocked
radiant chasm
I'm so shocked high voltage works on everything I thought its just special only
yea bit weird
marble mantle
I got so lucky again
civic knot
does stun from LR proc SC?
rigid pilot
does stun from LR proc SC?
No, but follow up attacks will stack SC
marble mantle
Well rolled lawbringer with scattershot and maniac
Just need to flak and manstopper
radiant chasm
SC just has the highest potential, goes up to like 80% damage on a knocked ass target
rigid pilot
I don't think it's 80%
thorn lark
but that's potential
radiant chasm
i'd go SC+LR for zealot and SC+HV for psyker and vet, if you aren't going commando
rigid pilot
I think it's 8 * 5%
thorn lark
I don't think it's 80%
it stacks 8 times
radiant chasm
I think it's 8 * 5%
per stagger state
rigid pilot
If you have the debuff indicator it's very clear
radiant chasm
there are multiple stagger states, it's weird
marble mantle
After I do the lawbringer I’m gonna do bistol and bolter
radiant chasm
it goes high
rigid pilot
But from psk testing it definitely doesn't feel like 80%
radiant chasm
it does more damage than what the tooltip suggests
fleet thicket
I love shock mauls now man
civic knot
@rigid pilot For vet, HB + SC or something else? what is most powerful in your opinion
marble mantle
I love shock mauls now man
It’s the only melee weapon so I get it
radiant chasm
idk why you pushing so hard for hammerblwo
fleet thicket
I totally forgot this thing also gets huge bonus from desperate xD
radiant chasm
only weapon that gets hammerblow before this was Crusher
marble mantle
Indig 3 only, riot cop moment
radiant chasm
but that's cause crusher ONly has 1 damage blessing
it doesn't have anything like HV or LR
radiant chasm
hammerblow is the best stagger blessing
radiant chasm
claw
after we were able to go blessings anyone who goes hammerclaw is a 
no offense
marble mantle
Also, CRAZY how much stagger slug shotty special deals
thorn lark
after we were able to go blessings anyone who goes hammerclaw is a <:clown_hadro...
i mean you said, the only weapon :D\
claw had hb before crusher
radiant chasm
i mean you said, the only weapon :D\
yes i meant as "willingly equip"
thorn lark
crusher was not there at the beggining
radiant chasm
crusher was not there at the beggining
yes
i am very aware
idk what you are fighting pedantics
coral willow
some did willingly equip hammerblow and some ohter stagger blessing on munitorum to open bulwarks
coral willow
so theres thay
radiant chasm
Also, CRAZY how much stagger slug shotty special deals
opens bulwarks with a single slug
better than bolter
coral willow
but now that bulwarks are buffed you cant nolonger do that
marble mantle
Yeah it’s pretty wild
radiant chasm
but now that bulwarks are buffed you cant nolonger do that
nnooo
marble mantle
I also open up bulwarks with shocky shock special
coral willow
bulwarks were buffed and bolter can't do that
i said munitorum shovel
hammerblow and some ohter stagger blessing could open it with a special hit
radiant chasm
i said munitorum shovel
munitorum
never heard the word used to say shovel before
thorn lark
what can open a bullwark rn? agri shot, maul special and?
radiant chasm
thought it was a mistranslation of meat grinder or psykanium
coral willow
what else you call the base shovel
rigid pilot
<@171999029717237760> For vet, HB + SC or something else? what is most powerful ...
HB SC works you can lmb ragers, LR is funny and you can try, you try both and see which one you like
marble mantle
I still want to get bolter anyway, tbh. Gonna make me feel like an astartes lol
coral willow
folding shovels have proper marks, munitorum one doesnt
winter grove
i said munitorum shovel
Which
last parcel
what else you call the base shovel
standard issue
coral willow
cool
last parcel
because all 3 are munitorum sapper shovels
coral willow
got it
winter grove
what else you call the base shovel
They're ALL munitorum
rigid pilot
Bad shovel
winter grove
coral willow
anyways standard issue had that quirk for a while
winter grove
Standard shovel is like a taxe
coral willow
and then lost it after the bulwark buff
radiant chasm
what else you call the base shovel
OG shovel
last parcel
boop shovel
marble mantle
radiant chasm
the no folding shovel
winter grove
anyways standard issue had that quirk for a while
Which was?
coral willow
so people did use hammerblow on other stuff
winter grove
with uncanny
With uncanny required to be good lmao
coral willow
Which was?
open up bulwark from the front with the special using hammerblow and other stagger blessing
rigid pilot
open up bulwark from the front with the special using hammerblow and other stagg...
Was this before or after bulwark buff
winter grove
If you're using hammerblow and stagger blessings on standard shovel
coral willow
before
winter grove
You're effectively using a dogshit melee
rigid pilot
Ah now it's pointless
coral willow
i dont think you can do that anymore
coral willow
You're effectively using a dogshit melee
nope, better than thammers
rigid pilot
Meanwhile forcesword just do a push and open bulwark
Perfectly balanced game psyker W
winter grove
nope, better than thammers
Decimator and Uncanny was the pick for standard iirc
rigid pilot
Saul is the better replacement for old shovel
radiant chasm
i justt used it like last week
marble mantle
Perfectly balanced game psyker W
Meanwhile, I play auric maelstroms and still see psykers explode
coral willow
But even then taxes do the job better
give me the shovel on zealot anyway fat sharkfin
radiant chasm
it's still a classic, it's like the mk12 inflas
rigid pilot
Meanwhile, I play auric maelstroms and still see psykers explode
Don't blame the car blame the driver
radiant chasm
ok it just is in a rough spot
marble mantle
Saul is the better replacement for old shovel
radiant chasm
all the newcomers are shining
winter grove
Don't blame the car blame the driver <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
I'll blame the car because it's Volkswagen
marble mantle
Don't blame the car blame the driver <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
If you’re using smite the car is on autopilot 😭 you gotta blame the car at some point
winter grove
I use smite creeping flames
winter grove
What the fuck is a melee weapon on psyker 🔥
rigid pilot
Autopilot smite has like a really small skill ceiling
But plenty still haven't hit it yet
rigid pilot
Psykers in the basement skill level
marble mantle
Damage : (
winter grove
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1259067873683443752...
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marble mantle
Makes me a sad panda
winter grove
Why lightning reflexes tho
coral willow
cause its broken?
marble mantle
I mean it seems good but idk why you wouldn’t just use SC
winter grove
cause its broken?
Do tell
coral willow
well stuns everything really, opens up bulwark shield pushes way faster than special does n stuff
also stuns dog if you get the timing right
winter grove
You have push attack vs dogs because your character uses telekinesis to push the dog
winter grove
OH
radiant chasm
iirc
winter grove
That changes
marble mantle
lightning reflexes is an aoe stun
Really?
winter grove
Everything
radiant chasm
i don't have it on my own yet cause rng hates me
marble mantle
Damn
coral willow
i assume single target
radiant chasm
but you can use it vs rager swarms
marble mantle
i assume single target
I thought so too
radiant chasm
is it not multi-target
coral willow
cause i havent seen multiple target awuisirion
but every hit during "parry"frame counts as parry
coral willow
its not you parried it once your your block is just a block
radiant chasm
thank goodness you are a savior for once
coral willow
comparing to dclaw where only first hit registers and parry is initiated
its just a timeframe to stun every attack
radiant chasm
you can just reset your block inbetween hits
to get the window back
it's free damage as well
anyways
i'm back to ferret posting
here templars
coral willow
it has its limits since it suffers the same problem DClaw has, which is running out of stamina is quite dangerous with it so your option is limited
especialyl against swarms even if you stun them you either take a chunk out of stamina or get stunlocked, both you dont want
radiant chasm
coral willow
but the alternative is just... die with skullcrusher
radiant chasm
my build goes double stam regen nodes so i'm fine
radiant chasm
zealot you just go martyrdom and stat check with SC
get punishment
maybe grievous wounds
coral willow
idk
still feel like SC doesnt last long enough on targets that matter so i tend to stick to HV
less powerful but more consistent
radiant chasm
it's dangerous to go alone templars, take this
coral willow
bluearchiveposting
stoic mantle
it's dangerous to go alone templars, take this
Needs higher caliber, these are nurgle cultists we're dealing with
winter grove
bluearchiveposting
Warhammer posting
coral willow
yay
shadow dagger
what now
junior needle
What perks for the indig shock maul?
thorn lark
if you want to adress it's weaknesses, maniac unyielding
if not, i would go flak elite
or elite unyielding
shadow dagger
assuming i only have one perk slot free on mk6 knife
what would i grab
flak or maniac
shadow dagger
i gotta choose between groaner/poxie and block efficiency
thorn lark
keep block eff then
shadow dagger
i hear you
thorn lark
depends on the blessing
shadow dagger
but im not rolling another knife
winter grove
Okay the blessings
thorn lark
hmmm
winter grove
No uncanny?
thorn lark
go uncanny + flesh tearer and just use the reciprocity talent
and desperado if you can too
winter grove
Uncanny flesh tearer might not be bad
You should go unyielding instead of flak tho with the uncanny
thorn lark
yeah, agree
with block eff, consider it as mobility and defensive tool capable of big burst dmg especially against big targets
just don't try to solo a horde
thorn lark
is this any good?
you want no respite for the second blessing, and ideally flak + maniac
covert moat
is it a good pick up?
thorn lark
that's a good base, the question is: how much bucks do you have?
covert moat
7575
thorn lark
and have you ever used a kant shotgun?
crimson pebble
Gaming
thorn lark
wanting to expand my arsenel
it's a good base, but you don't have a lot of coins and you have never used one before, so try it
covert moat
okey
gilded cobalt
you think this infantry autogun is worth buying from sire milk?
Ive never messed with the autoguns before
faint beacon
its not the absolute best
but to be brutally honest
snag it for the update thats coming here soon
gilded cobalt
oh, is crafting being updated... again?
faint beacon
could very well easily get a Maxed out Graia
Yeah near end Summer
itemization update is being dropped
locks will be no more
and you can up the stats on everything
gilded cobalt
oh wow!
shadow dagger
yeah
faint beacon
Yeah both MK3 and MK6 I believe share the same downwards Strike Down
tall torrent
mk6 knife special followup isnt a full heavy3
Doesn’t matter that much, they have the same dmg breakpoints on veteran
shadow dagger
push attack into special followup barely doesnt kill a dreg gunner with my current knife
i suppose thats a dreg gunner diff though
junior needle
you think this infantry autogun is worth buying from sire milk?
You'll get a 3/4 with nice stats. If you're swimming in melkbux it's a good snag
I saw what you posted 
midnight totem
cleaned up my inventory a little
burned some plasteel while I was at it
probably pointless, given the itemization rework at the end of summer, but alas
junior needle
Next season
faint beacon
Im contemplating on
just getting a better Vraks III and then just stock piling till the new update
junior needle
I've lost the desire to play since getting cucked out of ASS and so I will be doing nothing
At least on darktide
frank ether
sinful swallow
I've lost the desire to play since getting cucked out of ASS and so I will be do...
Cucked in ass 
stiff glacier
Man yesterday i had most painful experience with plasma vet player
Dude only used the charged up shot
Whole team died to crusher group
While guy spent entire time venting the gun after 2 shots
sinful swallow
If he's only spam charge he would surely have been one tapping them
sinful swallow
just getting a better Vraks III and then just stock piling till the new update
Really looks like a fun gun
stiff glacier
Clearly he kept missing
sinful swallow
I just literally can't get myself off bolter
stiff glacier
Or had really crap plasma gun
sinful swallow
I don't play darktide I play a bolter gib simulator
last parcel
stopping power? sounds lame. i'll dump it
thorn lark
i want killing power not stopping power
junior needle
Cucked in ass <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
By a barrel at the only place in the map one could've killed me
I was 4/5
sinful swallow
It's always a barrel
thorn lark
I just literally can't get myself off bolter
if only bolter vet had faster draw.... without exec stance
sinful swallow
I run exec for that exact reason, it's just how it is
junior needle
I just literally can't get myself off bolter
I just literally can't get myself off
last parcel
sinful swallow
indigo mural
I'm absolutely torn. The Cadia MK XIII Chainsword is just amazing for close combat dealing with specials but the MK III Combat Blade is so smooooth to use
I'd love to run both really, the knife so I can be the fastest person in existence and the chainsword for allround destruction
bitter turtle
not if you play like az and run in front of everyone and kill everything before anyone can reach it :^)
jk
imp retty sure that's why he rates the trash clear on knife so highly
stiff glacier
Im trying to figure mk4 chainaxe how i can make it work
indigo mural
I just tested both in training grounds and CH seems better for carapace/armoured enemies compared to knife
indigo mural
The ability? what
bitter turtle
I just tested both in training grounds and CH seems better for carapace/armoured...
yes because the rev has animation lock and a hard commit you have to finish or else you dont get full dmg
indigo mural
Jesus christ I did not do that much dmg hahahaha
bitter turtle
also to begihn with its just
underwhelming
against crushers
you need like 3 revs minimum for non-bloodletter ones
even 2 revs with bloodletter feels like shit
it doesnt stagger them at all
indigo mural
Why are you oneshotting the crusher though I'm so confused
bitter turtle
because you are new (i presume) and probably dont have anywhere close to a knife with the correct blessings/perks on it
tall torrent
I just tested both in training grounds and CH seems better for carapace/armoured...
there's no way
tall torrent
bitter turtle
all your weapojns are trash when they get to 30 anyway bc you cant roll high stats until higher levels
chainsword's upsides (on vet) are low talent investments and good horde clear
downsides are actually the elite/special performance is just subpar
indigo mural
Could I see your knoife blessings/stuff?
tall torrent
uncanny + executor in this clip
indigo mural
Yeah I am using the snub revolver aswell, I want to become a specialist murdermachine
going for Weapon Specialist
bitter turtle
blessings:
uncanny strike(necessary) + flesh tearer/riposte/precog/mercy killer/executor
perks: elite/carapace/flak/unyielding are all fine
mine specifically is uncanny strike + flesh tearer
hence the bleed
indigo mural
something like this, not set in stone though
tall torrent
if chainsword could PA stagger ragers by default it wouldn't be so bad
faint beacon
Im trying to figure mk4 chainaxe how i can make it work
Push attacks, or heavies that’s literally it
Mainly push attacks
bitter turtle
something like this, not set in stone though
i strongly suggest
for infiltrate
dont take surprise attack, take at least low profile
midnight totem
haha
midnight totem
mutant just threw me into a crusher overhead as it landed on another player
indigo mural
bitter turtle
rest of it looks quite sane so
nothing reall yneeds change
you might save a point if you go
drop demo stockpile and just cope with demo team
indigo mural
Why the -90 aggro node though
bitter turtle
but you are losing a lot of dmg by not getting the bottom far left tree
but if you value your current utilities it cant be helped
midnight totem
the kicker? I was just out of invisiblity and the mutant missed the other player and hit me
bitter turtle
Why the -90 aggro node though
it effectively doubles the amount of time you have "stealthed"
midnight totem
Can't even be mad. Just auric things
last parcel
Can't even be mad. Just auric things
life do be like that
indigo mural
but if you value your current utilities it cant be helped
I just want to specialise in elite/specialist kills
bitter turtle
yes
that node helps a lot
if u are behind enemy linnes
killing everything
a trapper running past u to go for your teammates
is an easy kill
midnight totem
Its okay. I was on my secondary vet anyway. He dies more because I do stupid stuff with him
indigo mural
so just snub revolver/knife, but this way I am missing out on the far-left tree though
bitter turtle
a trapper aiming at you
you have to dodge and its annoyin gas fug
and could get you killed
last parcel
Its okay. I was on my secondary vet anyway. He dies more because I do stupid stu...
woah, that's all of my vets
bitter turtle
so just snub revolver/knife, but this way I am missing out on the far-left tree ...
i will post
my suggestion
indigo mural
ok
bitter turtle
your build is fine though
albiet will lose some dmg and breakpoints
but its not like
troll tier
indigo mural
Yeah it's just one I took from that one website lol
and is good if I want to use the revolver apparently
junior needle
FT is more appropriate for zealot usage but you can take it on vet provided you critmax
bitter turtle
bitter turtle
FT is more appropriate for zealot usage but you can take it on vet provided you ...
you dont need to critmax
unelss you count
"having desperado on a knife" as critmaxing
indigo mural
https://i.gyazo.com/ed78f9e2d4c8757a0ac329e6420014c0.png
Are you skipping out on the grenade per 60s purely because you have -90 aggro and will oneshot most of them anyways with your melee/weapon?
bitter turtle
Are you skipping out on the grenade per 60s purely because you have -90 aggro an...
no
you are going infiltrate
so stockpile is painful to reach
demo team is another, less reliabel grenade regen node
junior needle
you dont need to critmax
you dont need to critmax
posts a critmax setup with recip and 5% crit node
bitter turtle
at the bottom
indigo mural
fair
bitter turtle
> you dont need to critmax
posts a critmax setup with recip and 5% crit node
i dont take 5% crit unless im going infil
he wants infil
how am i supposed to avoid it
lol
junior needle
But yeah you want recip and desperado if you insist on going FT
bitter turtle
knife has like 30% crit base
junior needle
15%
indigo mural
the smoke grenate though
junior needle
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
bitter turtle
you dont run knife without desperado out of mercy killer setup
speaking
purely in terms of averages
that means
you, on average, have a crit every 4 attacks
which means every other crusher dies in 2 hits
that is fine
and good
for something that doesnt require any stacks to maintain like exec
or a 2 second window after a dodge
bitter turtle
the smoke grenate though <:thonk:759726244659986452>
do you want a differnet grenade
kraks are pointless unless you really hate bosses
with your build
indigo mural
fair
bitter turtle
you have an anti carapace melee and an anti carapace gun
shredders would be good
but
you'd have to give up ogryn damage probably
so its up to you
junior needle
I wouldn't really bother taking FT if that's all you're getting, 50% at least with recip
indigo mural
Yeah this makes perfect sense ngl
junior needle
And it's still not the 80% crit you can get with zealot
bitter turtle
fwiw shredder frags are the best grenade
inland orchid
i also underutilize smokes, due to the one penace needing u to engulf a fuck ton of enemies tho ive been coming around to it
bitter turtle
smokes are a decent utility option because of great surrounding nodes though
thorn lark
you dont run knife without desperado out of mercy killer setup
wdym, i assumed the build was: serrated + mercy + recipro + despe + whatever you want like uncanny or executor
inland orchid
been snubnosing alot of specials and shooters with my smokes 
bitter turtle
wdym, i assumed the build was: serrated + mercy + recipro + despe + whatever you...
mercy killer doesnt strictly need desperado
i mean
honestly
its still good to have
thorn lark
ah yeah
bitter turtle
but you can hit 3 shot crusher without it and you arent dependent on crits as much as others
frankly i would not run any knife period without recip/desperado so this isnt some kind of strike against FT in particular
idk why its being treated as "crit maxing" when its literally just what you should run on the majority of vet knives
indigo mural
skipping out on this seems crazy though
bitter turtle
skipping out on this seems crazy though
thats just my preference
at top right
you can go middle
instead
its the same point cost
indigo mural
it kinda makes sense though so I understand
bitter turtle
if you're wondering why, 5% movespeed
:^)
travel node
gotta go fast
the one under Confirmed Kill is +1 stamina which is good too though
thorn lark
skipping out on this seems crazy though
you can afford to not take it if you use voc tbh, but yeah that's s tier
bitter turtle
nah
i dont take it
on any build period nowadays
out for blood on every build
5% movespeed 5ever
thorn lark
i never tried it
indigo mural
And this is overkill?
bitter turtle
And this is overkill?
for knife/revolver, its only really gonna matter vs bosses
indigo mural
gotcha, makes sense
bitter turtle
revolver already 1 or 2 taps everything
knife
well
you saw the I and the other person posted
rigid pilot
10 seconds is a real long time though
Has great uptime
Esp if you are degenerate and take (vet bruiser)
indigo mural
this is headshots I assume? And the yellow dot on the nurgle creature?
bitter turtle
yes
but keep in mind
its mor elike 10 or 15% more dmg
not 30%
still good though
but its important to know weak spot damage and critical damgae is not calculated the way you think i tis
so low values like 10% on weapon perks are usually not worth it
the way its calculated is that it only boosts the bonus damage portion
sinful swallow
It modified the difference between your weak point and normal hit
bitter turtle
so if you do 100 dmg on a bodyshot, 150 on a headshot
its not +15
if you had 10% weakspot damage
its only +5
10% of the bonus 50 damage you got
indigo mural
Yeah gotcha, good to know
coral willow
so low values like 10% on weapon perks are usually not worth it
tbh i do wonder if its barely worth it in like, stupid high wp multiplier weapons like dueling swords and knkves
bitter turtle
anything 30% or bigger is usually good enough
indigo mural
This build pretty much fits what I'd indeed like to have, now to get level 30 
bitter turtle
tbh i do wonder if its barely worth it in like, stupid high wp multiplier weapon...
az says there's some weapons that meet bps with it
but idk them
rigid pilot
Powersword 2 shot crusher
thorn lark
out for blood on every build
I totally forgot out for blood is on ranged and melee kills
bitter turtle
he mentioned shmaul but i still havent gotten much input about how everyone feels about cara/maniac on shmaul
thorn lark
Holy shit that's insane with high cleave weapons or just a db shotgun
rigid pilot
But you can get bonuses in other ways
indigo mural
I assume this is good?
bitter turtle
I assume this is good?
no
bitter turtle
wtf are those perks
rigid pilot
Crucian
indigo mural
indigo mural
Invincible vet! hjahaha
rigid pilot
5% crit chance
indigo mural
It sounded cool mkay
bitter turtle
az shills crucian but he plays like a lunatic anyway with 1 bullet in his chamber from what it sounds like
surgical + handcannon is what most people run
rigid pilot
Gamelantern builds lmao
fiery wave
I run agri
coral willow
elite + maniac is the "optimal" setup
it is?
fiery wave
Gamelantern builds lmao
I picked it and tried it
fiery wave
Somewhat okay
rigid pilot
I picked it and tried it
New video ideas
bitter turtle
everything else dies in 1 hit anyway so
indigo mural
elite + maniac is the "optimal" setup
Going to be dead honest I have no clue what this even means, blessings?
fiery wave
New video ideas
Actually go insane
rigid pilot
Darktide needs more content than (weapon good weapon bad)
bitter turtle
Going to be dead honest I have no clue what this even means, blessings?
perks
indigo mural
Does a gun not have 3 blessings or is that only Curious?
bitter turtle
10% elite
25% maniac
indigo mural
Curios
coral willow
elite gives crusher 2 tap, maniac gives rager bodyshots 1 tap
dont vet also go for crusher oneshot with exec? anyway neat
fiery wave
Trying people’s lunatic builds
bitter turtle
dont vet also go for crusher oneshot with exec? anyway neat
again
we talked about this
coral willow
bitter turtle
most people darent running exec WS
indigo mural
Well now to get lv30 
coral willow
i see it quite common sorry
fiery wave
Who handicaps themselves with exec
bitter turtle
i can believe sneaky running it
placid portal
helbor mk3 can technically 1 shot crushers
bitter turtle
you know
coral willow
i can believe sneaky running it
koreans really
bitter turtle
exec doesnt proc WS right?
placid portal
Ye
coral willow
its not the build but p popular
indigo mural
Hey uh, now I'm here do you got a Psyker build aswell hahaha
indigo mural
wrong channel I know, I'm a sinner
fiery wave
Is it the same group who says lacerate isn’t worse flesh tester
bitter turtle
Hey uh, now I'm here do you got a Psyker build aswell hahaha
i only play 1 build on psyker
so if you wanna play it
placid portal
Which is kinda dumb FS didn't do anything about that XD