veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

if u never died good for you ig

[rigid pilot]

I just imagine the dev giggling uncontrollably as he coded in the barrel spawning logic

[bitter turtle]

esp since there is a boss spawn trigger there

[old quail]

the secret technique is just going the other way

[rigid pilot]

Two barrels next to each other? Yesyes

[old quail]

instead of the catwalk

[faint beacon]

Plogryn have killed a lot of people on that cat walk

[bitter turtle]

the drop down can be ad eath trap cause the spawn trigger is RIGHT there

[rigid pilot]

Rat tunnel death chamber

[bitter turtle]

drop a BoN on you in the one-way drop down tunnel

[somber axle]

send in the Burgle the instant the players spawn in and drop down onto the catwalk

[old quail]

being anywhere in the first area with a beast of nurgle just sucks tbf

[bitter turtle]

yea

[faint beacon]

Had that happen actually

[bitter turtle]

there's some places you can cheese their pathing though

[somber axle]

slug man loves the tiny walkway

[bitter turtle]

or

not their pathing but

[faint beacon]

Usually results in someone being eaten

[bitter turtle]

you can just go up, drop back down, run back up

repeatedly

not in that one way drop down though

someone tell me

if this is stupid

im gonna make a puncture DA bistol'

[proper delta]

DA is wack

Puncture goated tho

Puncture makes the bolt hit a lot of “one shot” breakpoints

[rigid pilot]

Oh no

🇧istol

[proper delta]

My 🅱️

[faint beacon]

Pinky pinky promise it’s better than the Zarona

Pinky promise

[rigid pilot]

It has bigger magzine

[faint beacon]

True!

[rigid pilot]

Because the zarona doesn't even have a mag

[last parcel]

don't forget to throw unyielding dmg on there

[bitter turtle]

look at this

very very amazing

CRITLESS

crusher 3 tap

:^) dont mind the knife i just swapped to it for fun

[proper delta]

Beautiful

[rigid pilot]

Strongest weapon smh

[faint beacon]

4HKO or else I’m not using it

Any more I’m not using it…

[proper delta]

What if it were bigger and had a longer reload and draw time tho

[bitter turtle]

oh wait i did crit once there

rip

[faint beacon]

Hmmmmmmmm never heard of it

[bitter turtle]

its ok wep specialist guarantees a crit

still valid

[faint beacon]

Maybe it’s like bolt something

[rigid pilot]

You have 🇧istol

I have 🇧 un

[plain escarp]

How do I make the best build out of my situation? I cannot make any good build because Melk is not giving me any belssing

and I have no idea how skill tree should look like

for melee I have good mk VI power sword

[uncut pebble]

Trying out a recon lasgun for the first time since the buffs.

Wish me luck...

[topaz lance]

Replace Calvacade on that boltor with surgical, run it with exe and deadshot as a DMR

IF it has good stats that is.

[flint lake]

You could make a good bolter mag dump build. It’ll starve your team of ammo but if you’ve got a couple psykers or melee ogryns in your team that shouldn’t be a problem.

The kantreal is okay if you wanna go hybrid

The shredder and braced autogun are both really lacking though

[uncut pebble]

It seems that recon lasguns are very hard to use...

Either that, or they need built into.

[flint lake]

I’d recommend getting yourself a plasma, a double barrel, and a colomnus autogun (not braced)

[uncut pebble]

You need to figure out 1) which ability you want to use, then 2) what weapons you'd like to use with said ability before we can give you full fledged ideas of what to do.

The good part of this is that vet's kit is very versatile.

The bad part is... you need to know what you want, first.

[plain escarp]

I have no idea what I want

For now, something I can play with

I don't have a plasma gun so that's sad

otherwise I'd use it

[flint lake]

Plasma is good regaurdless if it’s blessings, just need good perks

I’d say the same for the new shotgun though it can get really bonkers with the right blessings

The colomnus autogun is also pretty good independent of its blessings so long as you can click on heads

[plain escarp]

what perks dpes plasma need

can I make one from scratch and pray somethig good happens?

[flint lake]

Yeah, near impossible to fuck up a plasma gun

They’re a very solid weapon to play as a veteran first building out your armour

[flint lake]

Maniac and Flak

Keep an eye out for Gets Hot, Blaze Away, and Glory Hunter

Again, the plasma is a great weapon without needing blessings to buff it

[thorn plinth]

personally,, i absolutely hate using the plasma gun,, i know its good, it just feels bad to use, (obviously a personal preference) my main weapon of choice on vet is revolver with shout, focus target, and krak, nothing new there i know, but it works. and either chainsword or new agni shock maul (never liked power sword, too slow and clunky to use)

[plain escarp]

and what talent tree do I pick

I have no idea what's standard

[flint lake]

You can mostly ride the tree straight down the middle though I’d recommend picking up frag grenades and weak point damage from the left side

Frags and shout give you plenty of area control to both clear hoards and give you time to line up shots on elites/specialists

Alternatively, you can also build it out by riding the marksmanship tree for the most part till you reach the final branch where you’d be better off hopping over to the center. Just be sure to pick up the toughness regen on elite/specialist kill from the center at the roots.

[thorn plinth]

i will also recommend the node that gives you less toughness damage when you are above a certain % (middle path near bottom)

[flint lake]

For more recommendations, check the Pins here in the discord. There’s a guide for all you want to know. It’s a little out of date with the new update but mostly relevant,

[uncut pebble]

I think the power sword needs a buff to its un energized damage.

It hits like a wet noodle and that's really not cool.

[tough tiger]

lmao

[frank ether]

lol

[tough tiger]

lets make the most op sword more powerful

just get better at melee combat so you can use something else that doesnt require you to press mouse5 every 3 swings

[flint lake]

Combat axe and new tazers are way better the the power sword

[tough tiger]

just use the dclaw and parry your way out of everything

[uncut pebble]

"Get better at melee combat" isn't a good argument against a weapon that can't perform without using its empowered state.

Even the thunder hammers are good when not empowered.

Can't say anything about paul because I haven't used it since it got buffed but I'm sure it's also good un empowered.

Power swords, though, are just sheet metal on a stick when you don't energize them.

[midnight raptor]

What are some general good melees for vet that aren’t an axe, power sword, or knife

[uncut pebble]

Which, I don't know if you realized it yet, but it's a sword, so I should be able to kill things without using the energized swings.

[uncut pebble]

Shock mauls are pretty good, dclaw is a solid choice as well.

Chainswords are also pretty good.

[midnight raptor]

What are the ideal blessings on a maul or dclaw?

[tough tiger]

it's called game balance and to reiterate, git gud at melee

[uncut pebble]

Maul is skullcrusher... and something.

I don't remember.

Dclaw, I don't know, as I haven't used them extensively. I just know they're a solid weapon due to parries doing sickening amounts of finesse damage.

You can 1shot behead a rager on damnation with it.

I can help with chainswords though!

[midnight raptor]

I wouldn’t mind some chainsword knowledge

[tough tiger]

dclaw, i use rampage and shred. u can sub shred for devastating strike or savage sweep

the caveat with sweep is that maulers make sweep pointless

[uncut pebble]

Give me a sec to open the game back up. I just got a fatal error for a memory leak...

[midnight raptor]

Is there a particular dclaw variant I should shoot for?

[tough tiger]

dev strike is more leliable especially if u use it on zealot cuz crit chance from piety

[tough tiger]

4

4 has best parry and heavy 1 is a strikedown

if u just wanna spam lights then i feel like 7 is better

[midnight raptor]

What enemies is the party best used on?

[tough tiger]

but 4 has all vanguard for all lights so its really braindead ez for hordes

[midnight raptor]

Just ragers?

[tough tiger]

literally anything that attacks u in melee lol

[midnight raptor]

Fair

[tough tiger]

the parry has the god tier ability to completely block a crusher overhead and all u sacrifice is your stamina bar

[midnight raptor]

Jesus

[tough tiger]

thats not an excuse to just go parrying overheads tho

its more of a panic button thing

[midnight raptor]

What perks are ideal?

[tough tiger]

i use flak and crit chance but u can sub crit chance for maniac (easier rager parry 1 shots) or elite dmg or even weakspot dmg

[uncut pebble]

Flakiak is always a good choice.

[tough tiger]

weakspot dmg is great on dclaw 4 cuz heavy1 is strikedown right on their heads

[tough tiger]

not really

flakiak is for guns more than melee

[midnight raptor]

I also should figure out what other guns are viable cause I mostly just use the QuickDraw revolver

Not a huge fan of plasma or autoguns

[tough tiger]

big fan of agri shotgun here

[midnight raptor]

Is that the one that loads the precision slug?

[tough tiger]

special attack is a slug that knocks crushers on their feet with a headshot

double barrel on vet is absolutely disgusting btw

[midnight raptor]

I’d assume with the always prepared bit of the keystone?

It’s just perma loaded in theory

[tough tiger]

yeah

that and agile engagement gives u massive dmg amp

focus target for even more silly dmg

[thorn plinth]

skull crusher and high voltage feel good, and is what i have been aiming for on my Agni (personal favorite version)

i dont like thrust on the mauls personally, yes you do heavies on single target, but you often just use them to stagger / Shock hordes constantly
not gotten an entropic roll yet, so no idea how that works and feels.
Opportunist could be better than skullcrusher, but not gotten one yet

im still curius about "electrocuted" i assume its whenever mobs have the lightning effect on them, which is almost always, if its however only when you use special, then its very situational

[coral willow]

opp is a worse skullcrusher

mostly cause the main reason to use rending, i.e. carapace, is already 90% pen

you get more damage from high voltage

and easier to proc too

[thorn plinth]

yeah, so it procs from anytime they have the lightning effect, which is nearly every attack then

[coral willow]

any stagger leaves the nemey with electric debuff for a while

[thorn plinth]

that has been my go to thought as well, but breakpoints and numbers have never been my strong side xD

[coral willow]

ragers are hard to work with but either way, more damage to most of the human enemies and special will always give more damage

Entropic(now named lightning reflexes) basically denies rager attacks very well, would recommend for a fun experience

thrust is due to high voltage existing, a bait blessing

[thorn plinth]

ragers currently (especially packs of them with gunner in the back) is my biggest downfall, always catches me off guard as no one in auric / damnation seems to ping them (even when no other pingable targets are near)

on zealot i can knife throw them very quickly luckily

[urban steppe]

which is good i dont care about too much of dodges and everything i just looking to clear hords fast on some melee elites ( because im a plasmagun main )

[thorn plinth]

511 would be my choice, and then change the blessings

[coral willow]

donk

[thorn plinth]

okay,,, that looks awesome XD

does it work with groups? (if you catch all attacks at the same time)

[coral willow]

your stamina is a problem tho

[thorn plinth]

that is hilarious tho XD
i dont have the mod for the meatgrinder so really appreciate this ^_^

need to try and get one with it, just to try it out in games (gonna die to crushers, but needs to be tested)

[coral willow]

apprantly it can stun crushers

out of overheads

but in meatgrinder you die

but certain things dont work proper in meatgrinder so

it probably works

[thorn plinth]

i will sacrifice myself to the testing if i get one XD

[uncut pebble]

Don't attempt to use the block thing on crusher or mauler overheads.

I'm not sure if it does stun them, but it does inflict electrocute.

[thorn plinth]

in general for those, special works quite well, but if there are multiples you a very vulnerable when using it. this could be faster, if it works and you time it right

[coral willow]

it stuns them

not aure if you deny the overhead entirely or does it register to you

[uncut pebble]

You can just spam the "timed" block over and over without worrying as long as you've got the stamina.

[thorn plinth]

just need to grind some more plasteel now to get it (already used tons to get high voltager IV (no luck)

also still working on zealot penances (hate infiltrator playstyle) but finished vets so gotta grind the rest

[midnight raptor]

I still need to figure out an effective plasteel farm

[shadow aurora]

Quickest way to get plasteel is to que up quickplay on the highest difficulty im pretty sure

[thorn plinth]

personally i jsut do auric quickplay for the increased %, and then check everything

[shadow aurora]

^

Qp has a bonus plasteel modifier

Make sure to look for skulls

[midnight raptor]

The issue there is consistently extracting

[thorn plinth]

yup. get all the skulls, and heretical idols, even if you ahve the skull, get it for others as you get a "helped" bonus

[midnight raptor]

I’d need to go learn all the skulls

I’ve only ever done one

[shadow aurora]

Theyre pretty easy to find

Just look for faint green glowing

[thorn plinth]

yes, tho you do still get some, otherwise normal quickplay on the higest you are comfortable surviving on works as well. as long as its quickplay

[thorn plinth]

heretical idols are glowing,, the skulls are the secret stuff where you need to unlock a door (most of the time anyway) ^^

[shadow aurora]

Oh right my bad

[thorn plinth]

need to finish 9 more maps on auric damnation for the penances xD after that im done with all endevours

[thorn plinth]

no worries! i knew what you meant, and they do indeed look like skulls xD
just to try and avoid confusion for others 🙂

[light ridge]

Quickest is to use the Eviscerator XV , stagger them and strafe to the back
Or pop out of stealth behind a cluster and just go to town
The stagger will prevent them from turning around

[thorn plinth]

thats what i did to begin with yeah, but now im using the maul instead, the electrocute stagger helps quite a bit with getting around them. and it gives progress to the other event missions.
its jsut a slog getting them all xD

[fleet thicket]

CANNOT WAIT FOR CRAFTING UPDATE FUCK YOU HADRON!

[trim breach]

[flint lake]

The shotgun really doesn’t need blessings to buff it if you’re playing a vet

Just change out the perks

[shadow aurora]

Ermmmm skill issue?

[flint lake]

No lie, the new shotgun can get really silly with the right blessings but even without them it’s a fantastic weapon for a melee oriented veteran

[bleak tangle]

Lads, if a melee noob wanna try Shock Maul, which model and perk/blessing should he aim for? asking for a friend

[flint lake]

Ignautus Skullcrusher and electro

Flak and maniac as always

Alternatively if you want to fight maulers and crushers, take Skull Crusher and Opportunist with flak and Carapace

[pseudo fiber]

Entropic, high voltage, skull crusher are the... big 3 or whatever

[coral willow]

i threw away flak for unyielding since flak damage is already like 107%

you dont wanna melee ogryns with saul either way but if you do, it works for it

[flint lake]

Opportunist just looks so good on paper. 20% rending just for staggering someone is tasty

[bleak tangle]

There're only 2 version of it right? the one that look like an Elden Ring weapon is the one I should look for

[coral willow]

every weapon looks like a already existing weapon but 40kfied lol

[pseudo fiber]

Opportunist falter or hammerblow could be funny.

[bleak tangle]

I mean... yeah lol

[pseudo fiber]

Yes

[coral willow]

i dont recommend opp at all tbh

[pseudo fiber]

The elden ring looking one

[bleak tangle]

and Mobility is the good old Stat-you-wish-it's-the-low-one ?

[coral willow]

opp is quite useless when you deal 90% damage to carapace by default

[flint lake]

Why is that? Is the 25% damage from electro that much better?

[coral willow]

basically almost all situations electro will have more damage output

and more consistent

[flint lake]

Ah, disappointing. I hadn’t checked that statistic

[coral willow]

yeah its pretty much bait

you deal less damage to maniac/unyielding than carapace

its something

[bleak tangle]

Thrust no good?

[flint lake]

Skull Crusher + Electropic then

Thrust is okay, I’m sure. Hard to go wrong with it but you’ll probably do more good with other blessings given you’ll have a 25% melee speed buff as a vet

[pseudo fiber]

I like Entropic, high voltage because perfect blocking is fun.

[flint lake]

You can twirl that baton like a jolly Arbite out for patrol in the lower hive

[thorn plinth]

personally i prefer Agni (MK Ia) over Indi (Mk III)
but that is pure preference, so i recommend trying both to see which moveset you like

[coral willow]

also bait imho

better off with electric, again

especially cause you can probably put skullcrusher in its place and even with the haphazardous nature of 1h weaponry not having enough stagger to actually use skullcrusher it probably has more damage output

if you want full damage skullcrusher + electric is my bet

if you want more utility, i'd recommed lightning reflexes

perfect blocking to stun ragers is quite a nice thing to have

[fleet thicket]

Guys

[bleak tangle]

electro is the "High Voltage" one or there're another blessing that named Electrocute that I haven't found yet?

[fleet thicket]

What blessings

You use on the double barrel ?

[bleak tangle]

I tried to avoid the perfect block one cuz i'm scrub lmao

[flint lake]

Scatter shot and man stopper

[bleak tangle]

Man-Stopper and Scatter shot

good luck finding MS tho

[flint lake]

Had to level up a new alt to 20 to get man stopper tho

[fleet thicket]

Double barrel is shit?

[flint lake]

That was annoying

[coral willow]

it is HV yes

perfect block isnt hard, but if you dont want it skullcrusher

[bleak tangle]

it's not OP, but serve it's role very well

[fleet thicket]

Sorry I meant the blessing double barrel

[bleak tangle]

you will have hard time against long range, but that's just shotgun-in-game

[flint lake]

It’s practically a new melee weapon for vet

[fleet thicket]

LOL

[bleak tangle]

once in a blue moon, a random shotgun pallet will crit a sniper's head, and that's funny

[flint lake]

Anything to do with reloading is irrelevant to vet assuming you want to use it in a weapon specialist build and while death spitter is always good, the spread is too wide to reliably trigger the other power blessing

Scatter shot though and Mans-stopper though can kill a whole conga line of Ragers

More practically, it scythes down hoards like nothing else and will easily reach trappers and ragers mixed in among pox walker hoards.

[bleak tangle]

have to find Man-stopper tho

[flint lake]

Which is annoying again because it’s a level 2 blessing

That means having to level up an alt up to lvl 20 to roll for it at Hadron’s casino

Scatter shot and Death Spitter are a good alternative

[tawny badger]

so what's up with that one shock maul blessing with the "timed block" thingimajig

[pseudo fiber]

Or brunt across 3 characters

[flint lake]

Perhaps but setting your life by the hourly roll over isn’t much fun. Practical if you have the Darktide extension though that enables you to check the store

[pseudo fiber]

It's a good extension

[bleak tangle]

Shock Maul moveset is weird as heck, how do you combo it in hoard

[flint lake]

I said it was annoying but I enjoyed leveling up a new character again. Always provides perspective on how the game is balanced.

[pseudo fiber]

Heavy 1 light 4 if I'm remembering correctly

[flint lake]

Never figured it out myself but seemed to work fine just swinging Willy nilly

[bleak tangle]

it's so weird that heavy lock into overhead in combo

bug/feature?

[pseudo fiber]

Feature I think it just loops strike down heavies.
Check the thing from the inspect menu

[bleak tangle]

it's Relentless >> Strikedown but it never loop back to Relentless

[coral willow]

achylis mk8 combat axe

its the same heavy

its wierd that they dont list the 3rd heavy which is only different in motion and exaclty same as 2nd

like rashad lists its 2 heavys, so does achylist asidefrom the first one

[light ridge]

I just spam lights, works fine

[balmy flume]

Fffffff…
Man I really need to get a shotty to finally use Exec stance at some point…

Looked impressive, but will take a lot of practice.

[flint lake]

Doon't think that'd jive well. Shotgun works best in close range and if you're joining into a melee you'll wanna swap weapons regularly which will draw you out of execu stance. Could work in practice but sounds flawed in theory.

[topaz lance]

I use Agri shotgun with exe stance and WS and it works really well, but that's a whole different beast altogether.

[flint lake]

Figured we where still talking about the double barrel

the agri shotgun work well enough

[balmy flume]

Well kind of saw this, but fair, you do need good teammates that can draw the CQC aggro away

https://youtu.be/Jfhy8pXWcYQ?feature=shared

[flint lake]

Its probably do able with a tank ogryn

I'd be concerened about runnning out of ammo tho

Never much a problem with a melee build but on the occasions that I start emptying into a boss it depletes fast

[topaz lance]

You know what, this looks fun indeed! Gonna try this

and probably get my ass handed to me, oh well

[trim breach]

bruh moment

[willow siren]

just givbe them a hug duh

[trim breach]

I think I'll keep this cursed abomination

[flint lake]

If you go melee, you'll only ever use it when you're within 8 meters anyways

[trim breach]

everything else is perfect

except range >.>

[flint lake]

doesn't really matter

[trim breach]

tru

imma try it at malice

with barely any blessings

[flint lake]

shove the barrel down their throats

[trim breach]

cuz hadron gave me two sh#t ones

sprint effi + terrify barrage

[flint lake]

blessings are also not nearly as important

[trim breach]

wait what

[flint lake]

already an A tier weapon without fantastic blesssings

so long as u play weapon specialist vet

As its been said before Man Stopper and Scatter Shot are fantastic

[trim breach]

woah

i got yeeted off a platform =-=

[flint lake]

but not like the other shotguns that feel as though they rely on their blessings

RIP

yeah new map is a bitch

Gotta hold tight to the wall and stay clear of the edge mindful to blast any barrrels you see before anyone on your team can get near them

sucks when a boss spawn up there, unless you've got a zealot who can shove them off the side

as awesome as the map looks it quickly feels very samey across multiple sessions

[trim breach]

damn this shotgun feels amazing

[flint lake]

enemies spawn in largely predictable ways with the msot deviation coming from boss spawns

the shotgun is fantastic

[trim breach]

it feels better running around with it

[flint lake]

all the weapons this update are golden for sure

[trim breach]

prolly because of the sprint effi

[flint lake]

you can go super sonic in stealth with an ogryn popping thier support ult

its very fun

[trim breach]

OMG THEY GAVE OGRYN A HUGE PICKAXE

[idle swallow]

minecraft ogryn is a good time

[frank basin]

No this is a good time

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1105979069406920784/DRG.gif

[tough tiger]

I feel like a plasma gun solves most problems at the catwalk section of new map

It's just an open air corridor and that's what all plasma spammers live for

[quick burrow]

What do you run on the new shotgun ?

[flint lake]

Need to really pin this

[flint lake]

Man Stopper + Scatter Shot, Maniac + Flak

[bitter turtle]

manstopper + both barrels, flak + infested

dont need scattershot, you have wep specialist

[slow spade]

Plasma is the meta for a reason

[slow spade]

I run Scattershot + speedloader Flak + Maniac

Fuck dreg ragers and I use ping keystone

[tough tiger]

TRUE

[nimble wadi]

Why are you eating laxatives for lunch

@tough tiger

[slow spade]

Why aren't you?

[tough tiger]

corpse starch gives me constipation

[celest rock]

How do we feel about no keystone builds? I feel like i want too much stuff for my ExStance build and I end up not having enough for focus fire

[tough tiger]

this is vet we are talking about so its absolutely fine

[coral willow]

i mean

even zealot sometimes gets away with it

idk why would you, but you can

[tough tiger]

truth is u dont even need focus fire

[celest rock]

Its either focus fire or carry an additional frag. I was cutting the 4th frag grenade but I've found that i REALLY miss the extra bang ball

[tough tiger]

if u stack enough damage amp talents, focus fire is kinda redundant

[celest rock]

It also lets me take confirmed kill, iron will and exhilarating takedown.

[tough tiger]

i wouldnt really go for +1 frag lol

especially since demo team gives u nades back like crazy

[celest rock]

Yeah weakspot damage+elite damage has been serving me well

[faint beacon]

Grenadier builds usually go keystoneless

[celest rock]

What good anti gunner EsStance builds have people been running with? Currently alternating between mk7 recon and columnus

[faint beacon]

More suggested to have as many frags as possible with them

[tough tiger]

i dont think +1 nade helps at all cuz ideally you wouldnt be stocking up on nades with demo team

u get them so often that its a sin to have more than 1 or at most 2 nades unused

even just throwing 1 frag with grenade tinker talent lets u do a lot of dmg from blast and bleed

[celest rock]

This has been my experience tbh.

[faint beacon]

Twinned blast shredder frags would like to have a word with you and the horde of specials

[tall torrent]

1 tinkerer frag < 2 frags still

grenadier is usually not worth tho

unless u go infil

[celest rock]

Too unreliable. I'd rather just have an extra nade

[light ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[faint beacon]

I gamble when I run grenadier

Have you know struck gold and hit 7s throwing out technically 8 frags at once cause it kept proccing twin

[tall torrent]

twinned actually helps more than grenadier on frags

[barren osprey]

I'd say it depends on what grenade you use

Oh you fixed the message

Now I am the stupid one

[tough tiger]

Has anyone ever used grenade build but with kraks instead?

[faint beacon]

Shredders I’m going to run twinned

Anything else no

[near igloo]

Probably
lots of people played this game

[light ridge]

I do, but twinned is questionable

[tough tiger]

Twinned on krak

💀

[faint beacon]

Twinned on krak is just

Not needed

[near igloo]

I never use twinned

[light ridge]

Indeed

[faint beacon]

Shredder Frags is good for it mainly cause it’s more AOE bleed

[tough tiger]

Let me kill this crusher twice

[barren osprey]

I mean imagine this scenario:

You throw it into a group of carapace, and get twinned. The TWO krak grenades stick to ONE enemy and do the same thing a SINGLE krak grenade would

[faint beacon]

Smokes you’re just using a joke build at that point

[light ridge]

Something like that

[faint beacon]

The dream would be they actually stick too two different cara enemies

But that’s RNG

[barren osprey]

we can dream

[faint beacon]

on top of RNG

[tough tiger]

Idk man, smokes seem to be working whenever i see my teammates u them

[light ridge]

They do spread out from each other quite a bit so it's entirely possible

[faint beacon]

It’s random however

Yes it’s possible

Just not ideal

I will die on the hill of Shredders with twinned just because it’s proccing more bleed

Underhand tossing condenses them together as well

[celest rock]

Or you run twinned krak with tinkerer and stick them to a VERY unfortunate monstrosity

[light ridge]

I can see it for shredders, I've had it on krak but it doesn't really do a whole lot
Mostly procs when there's just one target anyway

[faint beacon]

That’s extremely niche but yeah works for Monstrosity nuking

Power to however does that

[celest rock]

Oh yeah this is NOT enough of a reason to run twinned on krak

Ive seen it happen a couple times. And it's hilarious when it does

[slow spade]

Bring twin kraks to the new map for 100% chance of being useful when the BoN spawns 😎

[tough tiger]

Dhost waking up to a double krak sandwich

[faint beacon]

Reminding me to remake my Grenadier build again sometime

[faint beacon]

The new map is just reminding me to make Ghost and stripped down variants of my weapons

Smokes though truly shining in it

[tough tiger]

Stripped down absolutely goofy on vet

[faint beacon]

I just don’t understand why my team refuses to STAY IN THE SMOKE

[tough tiger]

They dont know how to ping and kill

[slow spade]

Because you need to throw more 😎

[faint beacon]

I’ll mark a corner

Toss it there

They’ll like enter it for

What 2 seconds

[slow spade]

+1 nade + regen nades + tinkerer + demo team

[faint beacon]

Get cocky leave

[slow spade]

As the Emperor intended

[faint beacon]

Immediately die

[faint beacon]

Okay okay look

Tinkerer Smokes

Don’t knock it till you try it

[tough tiger]

Mmmmm

[faint beacon]

Shit is fucking crazy

[slow spade]

I always try to take tinkerer

[tough tiger]

Discount blight grenades

[faint beacon]

30 second psyker shield

That’s literally what it is

[umbral scaffold]

What exactly do Smoke Gernades do for your team? Besides blind them. This is a serious question I figure there is something I don't understand about why you would hide in the smoke if you cant see.

[slow spade]

Breaks enemy aggro

They'll mostly stop firing

[faint beacon]

Gunners and Shooters would like to know your location

[slow spade]

Close enough enemies can still shoot

[faint beacon]

That and hounds and shotgunners freak out

[slow spade]

Like shotgunners

[faint beacon]

They refuse to enter it

[tough tiger]

You cant see, thats why u mash ping button and burst down anything that's red

[umbral scaffold]

Ohhh I see Thats really cool then

[slow spade]

The main issue with smokes for other classes is it blinds them too

[tough tiger]

Specials take longer to lock onto you too

[faint beacon]

You can be me and just run tinkerer smoke with Exe stance that highlights shooters and highlights for your team

[light ridge]

Hit it with a recon lasgun with Shred first, then krak it up

[tough tiger]

More time to react against bombers

[faint beacon]

Throw smokes down and have your team bitch about not being able to see less

[neat stratus]

So aside from exe and shout what are some good vet subclasses?

[tough tiger]

Bro is playing a moba at this point

[faint beacon]

Very satisfying when your team covers you from the horde

Delete every gunner and shooter

[faint beacon]

Infil with weapon specialist

Run Knife and DB and bring the always prepared talent

Become a king at CQC basically

[neat stratus]

Im gonna say something dumb but what is DB? New shotgun?

[faint beacon]

Yeah Double Barrel

Basically what always prepared will do is if you get a single melee kill it loads one shell into your DB

[neat stratus]

Would go doom guy and run the chainsword myself

[torn gorge]

why do that when you can just spec for max smoke uptime and constantly throw smokes in front of a trigger happy ogryn?

[faint beacon]

You can see the stupidity forming

[tall torrent]

Unfortunately chainsword is almost entirely carried by zealot’s FotF ability & +stagger talents

[faint beacon]

I do that! Except I actually pop Exe stance and highlight what he should be shooting lmao

[modern steppe]

i should never use psword if its not charged right

[torn gorge]

we are different, you do that to help the team, i would do that to grief the ogryn

[tough tiger]

This is a bit memey but u can go for a toughness spam build by taking all the toughness regen talent as well as plasma gun with glory hunter and top it off with team toughness regen talent and watch the ogryn facetank everything

[faint beacon]

Be a contrarian

Run BM slaughterer

Spam heavies

[faint beacon]

“The things I do for love” - Courage the cowardly dog

[faint beacon]

It’s so not optimal but I tried it with PS3 And it’s actually fun lmao

[umbral scaffold]

0

[modern steppe]

which psword am i looking to craft?

[faint beacon]

I ask are you doing power cycler or the joke I’m suggesting

[modern steppe]

im new to vet

[faint beacon]

Cause if it’s Power Cycler which is what’s normal and what you should do

Do the Mk VI

[modern steppe]

i main psyker/ogryn

wait its only swings?? 😐

holy

[faint beacon]

Yeah literally

[modern steppe]

then how do you actually do single target with this thing (or do you jus tnot)

[faint beacon]

Activate

[umbral scaffold]

How should I build out the new mace and doublebarrel shotty

[faint beacon]

Spam lights

[modern steppe]

thats it?

[torn gorge]

PS6 with PC4 and spam 3 swings on activation for horde clear, otherwise push attack stab into light 4

for single target

[modern steppe]

and this is for horde clear or good for single target?

[faint beacon]

Both

It’s push attack is a poke

[tough tiger]

Psword can handle everything

[faint beacon]

Activate

Poke at face of mauler or crusher

Kill instantly

[tough tiger]

Just use the right combo

[umbral scaffold]

You get good at turning on the shock I have seen vets solo crusher gangs with those swords before.

[faint beacon]

It’s why Zealot players really want the power sword me thinks…

[tough tiger]

Never give it to them

[torn gorge]

i mean

PS lethality is unmatched

[tough tiger]

Fartshart will have to make DT2 if zealots get psword

[faint beacon]

Tbf I wouldn’t mind Zealots getting a 2 Handed Psword

Great Powersword?

That even a thing?

For humans at least

[torn gorge]

doubt

[frank ocean]

I’d like a shield on Zealots, let me go full crusader

[modern steppe]

do i recraft or is this good enough for now

[slow spade]

Power Sword's weakness is its dogshit defenses

[faint beacon]

Supercharge

Weeps

[frank ocean]

Or a flail

[slow spade]

A toddler could guardbreak a PS

[faint beacon]

Idk if you really need BM at all tbh

[torn gorge]

flail is probably not that unlikely

[tough tiger]

Might as well tell FS to release a paid career subclass for zealot called Black Templar Sword Brother

[faint beacon]

The two combos you want are Power Cycler 4 + Sunder

Or Power Cycler 4 + Slaughterer 3-4

Perks?… I honestly don’t even remember

I just don’t like using PS

[slow spade]

Flak, maniac

[uncut pebble]

Flakiak, probably.

[scarlet path]

Just made this bad boy

[slow spade]

Maniac lets you hit the 1-hit kill mutant breakpoint

[torn gorge]

idr if you can 1 tap crushers without carapace

[terse idol]

Pcycler 4 and BM?

[scarlet path]

I have puncture IV on another bolt pistol should i replace one of these with that?

[faint beacon]

That actually good?

[slow spade]

I'm going to rob you

[slow spade]

Its the best lol

[faint beacon]

I don’t play PS enough

[modern steppe]

i see

and what ranged would compliment Psword best?

[faint beacon]

It’s cause it’s BORING TO ME!!!!! RAGGHH!!!!

[slow spade]

Brutal Momentum is best in slot for any melee weapon that has it

[scarlet path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849337769737715742/1136796412605104128/1676089552469313.gif

[slow spade]

Anything really

[faint beacon]

I’d say your current sword is salvageable it seems

[torn gorge]

if you dont run weapon specialist use a gun that gives you mobility, like laspistol

[slow spade]

Power Sword covers any role

[uncut pebble]

Personally I would prefer slaughterer over bromentum, but that's only because non energized hits feel like I'm wielding a wet napkin.

[faint beacon]

Get Power Cycler over Supercharged

[modern steppe]

revolver?

not a huge fan of lasi

[slow spade]

So you just pack a ranged gun that vibes with you

[torn gorge]

revolver does not give extra mobility

but you can use whatever you want

just bear in mind that PS is balanced on the fact it is not as mobile as other options

PS defense is being able to front block

as you get block cost reduction passively

and you get punished further for attacks from the back

[slow spade]

Only for Mk6 power sword

Mk3 doesn't get the cost reduct

[faint beacon]

Honestly reading this made me realize why vets are very fond of not wanting PS to be given to zealot

[slow spade]

Zealot with ps would trivialize anything that's not a daemonhost

[torn gorge]

i mean if you try a decent rolled PS you quickly realise how strong it is

[faint beacon]

Yeah no seriously

Sit back and sleep

[torn gorge]

you 1 tap everything in front of you

[frank ocean]

lol

[faint beacon]

Let the Zealot play the game today

[neat stratus]

And also Daemonhosts

[tough tiger]

Charged psword with FotF

[scarlet path]

Need opinions, should i replace one of these blessings with Puncture IV?

[frank ocean]

Yeah I think keeping PS Vet is fine, give Zealots other uniques that fit them

[slow spade]

The weirdest thing about Psword is that its damage is the same for Heavy and Light attacks

[faint beacon]

PS with momentum or Fury

[neat stratus]

What

[faint beacon]

Ffs that’s busted

[frank ocean]

Like they have THammer as their charge weapon

[slow spade]

Heavy attacks don't get a damage boost

[faint beacon]

Crusher

[frank ocean]

That too

[slow spade]

Its part of why the MK3 power sword sucks now

[faint beacon]

Don’t forget about that either

[torn gorge]

not if you wanna keep deadly accurate

[frank ocean]

Still, they have their own version of “power up” weapon

[neat stratus]

Is mk3 the new one or the old one

[slow spade]

Old one

Mk6 is the new one

[frank ocean]

Give me something like a flail/more crusader like weapons for them

[neat stratus]

Damn I had a good roll of the old one

[slow spade]

And its just objectively better

[faint beacon]

I know Ogryns had their Paul finally buffed

That even worth using now

[modern steppe]

hows the bolt pistol?

thoughts?

[torn gorge]

crusher is also way more applicable than a thammer

[tough tiger]

Great if u have good aim

[torn gorge]

i rarely see thammer enjoyers

[slow spade]

Usable but needs good aim

[torn gorge]

in auric

[neat stratus]

Multiheaded charge flail

[torn gorge]

bolt pistol is good as long as your pace isnt high

[faint beacon]

If you got good aim and are willing to tame its recoil really damn fun

[frank ocean]

Oooh yeah that’d be cool

[torn gorge]

the higher the pace of the game the worse bolt pistol ends up being

[neat stratus]

Is that because the bolt pistol sucks?

[slow spade]

Weirdly, bolt pistol fires SLOWER when hipfiring

[torn gorge]

its because of the recoil/sway so you need to pace your shots

[slow spade]

Only sucks compared to the revolver

[neat stratus]

Even weirder, less recoil

[torn gorge]

and you have to create space for yourself in order to pace shots

[faint beacon]

Everything sucks compared to the Zarona, the BP is genuinely good if you take a second to slow down

[tough tiger]

Prolly for balance cuz hipfire on bolter is good for a the first few shots

[neat stratus]

I'd like to get me a good BP roll

[slow spade]

Imo I find the bolt pistol good if you ignore the plasma and revolver

But revolver and plasma exist 😔

[torn gorge]

i think its worse than autoguns and possibly some lasguns

[tough tiger]

You can use BP as a dollar store revolver if u can aim well

[neat stratus]

Helbore?

[torn gorge]

but i also do not value the aoe ranged stagger as much as some do

[slow spade]

I find the easy 1-hit breakpoints make it better than the autoguns and lasguns

[neat stratus]

Honestly wanna get into the normal bolter

[torn gorge]

if anything it just makes more annoying to cleanup shooters

[faint beacon]

I main HHAs and the less used IAGs (fuck you Columnus I hate you) I’m used to the being completely outshined

[hollow turtle]

Miss the old bolter with its stagger.

[torn gorge]

i would agree if not for the fact that you need to account for the time you spend waiting for the gun to align

[slow spade]

I value its ability to "instantly" kill dangerous enemies so its better than the autoguns and lasguns imo

Discord pls...

[coral willow]

vet already has WS doing that half the time tbh

[slow spade]

Just hipfire at their head

[neat stratus]

Did they seriously nerf the damn thing AGAIN?

[coral willow]

i fear for marty powersword tho

[slow spade]

No they buffed it

[tough tiger]

This ^

[slow spade]

+20 ammo

[hollow turtle]

Did they fix it?

[coral willow]

it was nerfed kinda when bulwark was buffed

so it opens up at 4 shots now

so dont try thay

[neat stratus]

Shoulda been +60

[hollow turtle]

Aww.. Idc about the bolter ammo, but the fact I can't knock down a bulwark still makes me sad.

[slow spade]

Facts

[faint beacon]

Look I find enjoyment in hearing burst rifle fire off and instantly drop a gunner or a special

[coral willow]

but you have 20 more ammo and now a ammo tin gets you full mag

[faint beacon]

Instant dopamine to me

[neat stratus]

+60 ammo +10 mag

[torn gorge]

again, sway and follow up shots are what are holding the gun back

[uncut pebble]

Headhunter autogun?

[faint beacon]

Yes

[uncut pebble]

Based.

[coral willow]

i will assume that 2h powersword will be worse than 1h powersword just for the fact that zealots can use ot

[slow spade]

Yeah and the hipfire is easier to control

For some reason...

[celest rock]

I hate how much i love the columnus

[faint beacon]

If it isn’t the IAGs that aren’t the Columnus

[tough tiger]

Hipfire has no sway

Only a tight spread

[faint beacon]

I HATE IT!!!! RAGGHH!!!!

[slow spade]

^

[neat stratus]

Oh and higher swap speed, reload speed and an actual empty reload

[uncut pebble]

I honestly don't like the columnus, but I do like the agripinaa autogun.

[faint beacon]

I use the HHAs

All of them

[coral willow]

but columnus cant kill crushers!!!!!

[slow spade]

My kingdom for a non-braced agriphina autogun

[faint beacon]

Even the one people hate cause it’s funny using a futuristic AN-94

[coral willow]

heres a boltpistol

[coral willow]

an-94 had a lot more firerate smh

[neat stratus]

Bolt pistol is nothin

[coral willow]

stop dissin my girl

[coral willow]

you issue

[celest rock]

Honestly I'm preferring the Mk7 recon at the moment. But I'm about to have to break out the columnus warcrimes stick again just to get through how difficult auric is now

[torn gorge]

ngl 1 of my fav guns atm, the AIAG

left capstone let you do funny things

[tough tiger]

Current auric is functional auric

[faint beacon]

Look I’ll take what sneaky called my favorite IAG with pride

[tough tiger]

Spawns were broken before

[faint beacon]

Graia my beloved “white bread” gun

[celest rock]

So I'm supposed to have silent trappers crawl out of my colon?

[slow spade]

Yes

[torn gorge]

graia is more of a sustained fire gun

[tough tiger]

Imagine trying to legit get auric storm survivor these days

[slow spade]

Nurgle works in mysterious ways

[scarlet path]

I dont know which is better between point blank or puncture

Cant decide

[neat stratus]

Would like a heavier laspistol, one that feels like a literal hand cannon

[torn gorge]

AIAG minibursts gameplay tickles my brain

[neat stratus]

Talkin a sawed off helbore

[faint beacon]

Why I’m noticing if I probably run stripped down, D&D and the suppress talent I can completely dominate gunners and shooters

In theory

I need to test this when I’m home

[tough tiger]

At this point u need to always be ready for a sudden trapper netgun sound cue

[torn gorge]

if you play agile engagement/weapon specialist point blank is good, otherwise go puncture for more ranged gunplay i guess

[celest rock]

It's kind of fucking awful. Was trying a HISTG on the new map yesterday. Took down 2 trappers and a handful of shooters with volley fire. Looked behind me, all clear. Turn back around and get netted from behind

[tough tiger]

Like i said, expect the unexpected when it comes to trappers xd

[neat stratus]

Game director likes to bs people

[torn gorge]

dont forget the autobahn of ragers coming from behind without any sound cues

[neat stratus]

Quite literally spawning enemies a foot behind you

[celest rock]

Every HInt game right now is a combination of "oops all gunners" and "return of the silent disablers"

[faint beacon]

Do not get me started 2 nights ago

[celest rock]

Ive never seen this game spawn literal hordes of ragers until now

[torn gorge]

[neat stratus]

Patrols in this game are more like actual parades

[tough tiger]

At this point ppl should develop a sixth sense for disablers

[faint beacon]

25 Dreg ragers silently flanked me, sneaky, and weather and we instantly got killed

Like it’s was pathetic how fast we got killed

[scarlet path]

Alright im going with puncture then thanks c:

[tough tiger]

Literally what auric is like before spawns broke

[torn gorge]

i constantly watch the back of the party for that specific reason

[faint beacon]

Like at first I was like oh it’s just a few whatever right

And that’s an entire horde of them!

[torn gorge]

what annoys me are the desync that happens every now and then so you cant parry ragers without taking infinite damage on the dclaw

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-claws-runescape-oldschool-slice-dice-gif-15748311

[tough tiger]

2nd attack in rager combo is a double hit and parry only works on 1 hit

[neat stratus]

25 Ragers and 6 Crushers somehow sneaking behind you

[tough tiger]

So 2nd hit gets thru

Never try to parry more than 2 ragers at once

[faint beacon]

Honestly at this point it’s the exact reason I run Exec stance with highlight for the team

[torn gorge]

ye i know, but i got hit on the first and 3rd swing with parry up

vs a single rager

[faint beacon]

Cause I’d rather know about the oops all ragers around the corner

[torn gorge]

hence desync

[celest rock]

So the entire screen lights up?

[faint beacon]

Literally

Me lighting up everyone’s screen like it’s the 4th

[slow spade]

The sad part I had to take it off because rooms were blindingly yellow

[torn gorge]

i mean you could also just voc and murder them on the floor

[neat stratus]

Bro gets screen burn when they press F

[tough tiger]

Ah yes, the occasional fake parry, i always mash mouse5 for that reason

[slow spade]

"He used VOC! SEND THE NEXT WAVE"

[faint beacon]

See I’m a team player I purposely kneecap myself so we can avoid being completely bullied into submission by gunners and shooters

[uncut pebble]

Can't kill 25 ragers in the 2 seconds they're all on the floor.

[slow spade]

Ogryn frag bomb

[torn gorge]

infiltrate with aggro drop

[neat stratus]

Dead before it even explodes

[slow spade]

D:

[tough tiger]

Bad mentality xd, buff yourself first before others cuz u are expected to carry

[torn gorge]

the aoe stagger should also work on ragers iirc

[faint beacon]

Good for a tinsy bit till the next shooter group shows up

Had this happen to much

I’m sticking to my weed grenades

[neat stratus]

I like throwing rocks at mutants, they go flying

[torn gorge]

ogryn arms are railguns essentially

[faint beacon]

Now have the super impact mod

[scarlet path]

Final result

533 isnt too bad at all

[slow spade]

No Surgical?

[scarlet path]

Dont have it yet

[neat stratus]

If weapon impacts could launch corpses I'd play baseball with mutants

[faint beacon]

Emperors strongest Rager bully

[slow spade]

Ah

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/plotting-glimbo-glimbos-gold-goblin-luka-gif-3798250127185135420

[faint beacon]

Hey you!

Did you take my buddy glimbos gold!

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/glimbo-scoff-glimbos-gold-goblin-goblin-gang-gif-15746443670360329806

[neat stratus]

[scarlet path]

HD glimbo isnt real he cant hurt you

[neat stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/glimbo-goblin-goblin-gang-glimbos-gold-luka-big-pants-gif-15856182504265458869

[faint beacon]

Something I keep forgetting is exclusive to Vet is shovels

That and obviously PSwords

I just don’t see enough shovels

[uncut pebble]

Shovels aren't really seen because they have garbage damage.

Sapper shovels have excellent strikedown movesets but... crowd control leaves something to be desired.

[faint beacon]

Hell I used to vow to religiously use them

Spam heavies for extreme crowd control with the Standard Issue and MkVII

Might pick ‘em back up cause they’re still fun

[uncut pebble]

Well, if our vets would use the actual edge for heavies instead of smacking things with the flat of the head, that would probably make our damage better.

Especially considering one edge is serrated.

[faint beacon]

Skullcrusher or Deci

[uncut pebble]

Hmmm...

[faint beacon]

That’s what I’ve discovered really just helps with Horde Clear

[uncut pebble]

What's deci do again?

[faint beacon]

Forgot the exact amount but it’s

[mental cloud]

I run a standard issue on my weapon specialist build. It’s a good get off me tool I’d say.

[faint beacon]

4% Power that ramps to like 10 stacks on hits

If you miss at all

It resets

[uncut pebble]

I'd take skullcrusher instead tbh.

[faint beacon]

Large pox hordes you usually ramp to 10 very quickly

I’m very in between

[uncut pebble]

Well, yeah, that's valid, but I hate the blessings that make you lose all stacks when you miss.

[faint beacon]

Skullcrusher if I just want to support my team

Deci if “I want the karkers dead”

[uncut pebble]

Shred, headtaker, deci, wrath...

[faint beacon]

Uncanny

Is mandatory

It’s fucking uncanny

[uncut pebble]

All of them are blessings I dislike.

[torn gorge]

why take a non foldable shovel over a dclaw though

[faint beacon]

I find enjoyment in poking a mutant in the head and watching him stumble back like an oaf

[uncut pebble]

Bonk.

Special key is hella stagger.

[lofty ruin]

do you guys' revolvers oneshot flamers and dogs without maniac and infested? im short abit of damage on mine

[torn gorge]

the way of the blade

[terse idol]

Helps with Weakspot damage and achieving max cleave very easily

[uncut pebble]

Yes. Gotta have perks to do it, though.

Look above marksman's focus keystone.

[faint beacon]

I can see on PS3 cause of it’s easier horizontal swings

[uncut pebble]

Focus target might also push you into 1shot territory.

[faint beacon]

But PS6?

[terse idol]

Same

[wanton jewel]

I suppose following VT2 cata meta wouldnt hurt in DT

[terse idol]

You get the crusher BP by just doing uhhhh

Push attack something?

Hit their head

Dead

[faint beacon]

Huh

[terse idol]

Cleave on psword is still cray and the combo chain on ps6 would still let ya cleave eh?

[faint beacon]

I should play shovels again…

[terse idol]

Just force horizontals

[uncut pebble]

Push > poke > slash x2 kills crushers?

[faint beacon]

It’s been sometime

[lofty ruin]

im only missing the 5% dmg node, was hoping to skip it for agile engagement

[terse idol]

That's not how that works

[lofty ruin]

focus would but my weaponswap addiction wont let me

[wanton jewel]

Sigmar,I have failed you

[uncut pebble]

You have both superiority complex and the 30% weakspot damage nodes?

[terse idol]

[wanton jewel]

If only swift slaying exists in DT

[uncut pebble]

Headshot should definitely dumpster them easily if you've got both nodes.

[wanton jewel]

[wraith flare]

Man has everyone stopped using the new weapons already? i dont have them yet and just played a game, got no progress on the specialist/elite kill stuff

[lofty ruin]

ya, idk how to put in photos yet but my revolver is 80/77/76 damage./critbonus/pen, maybe itsd not enough?

[faint beacon]

What blessings

That’s my question

[idle pecan]

i feel like new shotgun would pair incredibly well in a melee vet build

[uncut pebble]

Blessings are important... but he should be hitting the 1shot bp easily.

[lofty ruin]

its short like 40 dmg without maniac bonuses and like 200 on dogs. these are non crit headshots obav

[tall torrent]

It does

[uncut pebble]

Are you sure you're hitting them in the head?

[tall torrent]

But yk what’s funnier
DB shotgun with both barrels blessing + zealot’s “the emperor’s bullet” talent

[lofty ruin]

blessings are surgical and handcannon

im sure

[faint beacon]

It very much does with knife and always prepared WS

[uncut pebble]

Dogs, I do not 1tap, but I do 1tap both flamers and I don't have maniac.

[faint beacon]

Do you aim for at least a tinsy bit

Cause it could very well be talents or perks hindering you

[lofty ruin]

hm is your revolver perfect on the damager stats?

[uncut pebble]

Let me go find the sc.

[tall torrent]

Revolver doesn’t need perfect dmg stats to 1 tap everything

[faint beacon]

No mines like 70-68 iirc

[tardy plaza]

Is this bricked?

[lofty ruin]

hmm////

[tardy plaza]

What do folks run on boltgun

[faint beacon]

Still 1 taps on head

[uncut pebble]

Actually it doesn't matter because mine exceed 75 in all of them.

[lofty ruin]

without crit ya?

[uncut pebble]

Yeah.

[faint beacon]

That’s… technically salvageable

[uncut pebble]

Go double check in the psykhanium and see if you can 1tap to the head.

[tall torrent]

Cavalcade to pinning fire
Reload speed to maniac

[faint beacon]

^

[uncut pebble]

Something tells me you aren't hitting the headshot in the heat of the moment.

[faint beacon]

Get yourself a relatively decent Bolter from that

[lofty ruin]

it cant be im testing in psychanium on lv5 difficulty, making sure to check crit damage

[faint beacon]

What perks if you mind sharing

Flak? Maniac?

[lofty ruin]

im tryna show u guys but i dont know how to upload

[uncut pebble]

I dont know what to tell you then, bro. I know I 1tap flamers with all my setups.

[lofty ruin]

its got maniac damage and +10% ranged dmg to elites

[faint beacon]

I don’t think you can till you’ve been active in here for a tinsy bit

[lofty ruin]

ah ya that would make sense

[faint beacon]

Should be 1 tapping ragers to the head then

Might be your talents

[lofty ruin]

it does on crit

[uncut pebble]

You have to have convict to post images.

That's the role that gives the red name.

I just... struggle to figure out how you're not hitting the 1shot bp for flamers.

My revolver is elite damage and crit damage...

[faint beacon]

Flamers are specials

Though they are maniacs

[uncut pebble]

If you weren't hitting them then I wouldn't be hitting them either.

[lofty ruin]

maybe its the crit damage bonus?

[tardy plaza]

Darktide crashing every time I try to exit Hadron 😒

[lofty ruin]

i do onetap them with maniac damage

[uncut pebble]

Yeah but I'm not critting.

I just walk up and pop them.

[lofty ruin]

me neither i want them oneshot everyhtime

[tardy plaza]

She's driving the circuits of my machine to madness

[faint beacon]

You mod your game at all?

[tardy plaza]

A pretty fair amount

[faint beacon]

The update causes data leaks to go apeshit which causes it

[uncut pebble]

Yeah, memory leaks out the ass since the update.

[faint beacon]

I don’t have the link on me for an easy fix to it

But it’s really simple

[tardy plaza]

Will disabling mods fix it ?

[uncut pebble]

Probably.

[faint beacon]

Yeah but I gotta dig up the image

[uncut pebble]

You may also have mods that are out of date.

[faint beacon]

They were showing off what to do in General yesterday

Give me a moment

[uncut pebble]

There's also like an ini edit you need to do in your game files to make mods not make darktide shit the bed.

Just changing a false to a true.

[faint beacon]

It’s this

[uncut pebble]

Tldr it's letting mods dump files so your game doesn't overload and die.

[junior needle]

Wasn't it a true to a false?

[uncut pebble]

They changed it to false with the update for some reason, but now it's making it unstable as hell.

[uncut pebble]

Honestly I don't fully remember anymore, it could be a true to a false for all I know. I just know shits fucked.

[tardy plaza]

Yeah the crashes have been getting on my nerves

[junior needle]

It's a true to a false

Here's the fix

[faint beacon]

@tardy plaza

Literally that

[tardy plaza]

🫡

[uncut pebble]

Yeah go do that and your mod problems should stop being an issue.

[faint beacon]

It’s really easy to do

[uncut pebble]

Just be sure you actually save the file.

[faint beacon]

You’ll just crash instead of freezing if the mods are too out of date

[uncut pebble]

I forgot to when I did it the first time and wondered why my game kept getting memory leaks.

[faint beacon]

At that point just test and disable a few mods

See if it becomes stable or not etc

[tardy plaza]

I turned mods off and it happened anyways

It's uh

Error whatever disconnected from server

[uncut pebble]

Verify files.

[tardy plaza]

So not technically a crash but it throws me back to the main menu

[faint beacon]

2014?

[uncut pebble]

Oh then that's not anything that can be fixed.

2014, 9999, and 2009 I think are all common right now.

[tardy plaza]

i'll have to check the # next time it happens

[uncut pebble]

It's an issue on fatsharks end, not ours.

[faint beacon]

If it’s 2014 it’s usually from the leaks causing the game to freeze which the game freaks out trying to catch you up and boots you to the menu

I did that and it fixed the 2014 issue

[tardy plaza]

Yeah the only time I get the out of memory crash is when I've been playing for like 6 hours straight without restarting

[faint beacon]

I only crash now

[uncut pebble]

I get 2014s like 1 out of every 20 matches now.

But I have hella fast internet so I reconnect quickly.

I once dc'd right as a plague ogryn spawned and reconnected before the team dropped it to half hp.

[tardy plaza]

I've been disconnecting towards the end of missions regularly but so far nobody has gone and ended b4 i could reconnect

usually they wait for me to come back which doesnt take too long

[idle pecan]

what is the most ammo efficient recon lazgun

[tardy plaza]

Hadron really fuckin hates me today

Giving me tier 3 everything on everything i consecrate

[analog mural]

I think the 7a is the most ammo efficient of the recons

That's what I've heard anyway

[tall torrent]

2 is more ammo efficient, 7a just has higher cleave which helps for shooting specials through horde

7a uses ammo at 1.5367x the rate of mk2

[analog mural]

Huh, the more ya know

[bitter escarp]

Thanks so much, I tried it out and finally got it, you’re a lifesaver

[wanton sage]

Its true

Its true that you should do it on false

[tardy plaza]

i am realizing

Most of my mods i havent updated since last October

f

[light ridge]

Onslaught + Rending Strikes
My Mk 2 eats through everything

• all the krak grenades I can carry to save on ammo anyway

[junior needle]

Kraks+onslaught is very overkill

You only really need onslaught for crushers

The rest it barely nudges ttk with rending strikes

Unless you are trying to shoot at max range, which is quite far

[light ridge]

It's fun and debuffing the enemy helps the rest of the squad murder things faster too

[junior needle]

Just letting you know about the redundancy. Onslaught is a big investment and if you're already equipped to kill crushers, then kraks lose a lot of comparative value.

I also prefer being able to shoot crushers to death, but it does come at a cost of performance elsewhere.

[radiant chasm]

if i was doing that i'd use my mkVid

[junior needle]

6d is a bit more efficient with onslaught but it's also the worst variant atm

[plush hound]

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[light ridge]

I've been thinking of replacing my MkII

[plush hound]

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[junior needle]

Which is a shame because it's also the most fun one

[junior needle]

Welcome to fatsharks player retention mechanics

[tall torrent]

In 4 months we get crafting update

[plush hound]

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[tall torrent]

Upgrade to gold

[plush hound]

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[tall torrent]

No I mean

Buy a bunch of power swords (regardless of rating)

Upgrade to gold

Gold has better chance of yielding IV blessings

[plush hound]

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[tall torrent]

I got 6 out of 8 shock maul’s IV blessings day 1 of this update just by doing that

[junior needle]

It's not your luck specifically, blessings have different weightings and that one is extremely rare

[idle pecan]

does born leader work yet

[junior needle]

Notably, the absolute dogshit blessings are the most common

It's been working, it's just a very low value in practice and general not worth it