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I'm disappointed how how awful the falloff is
i dunno what either of y'all expected lmao
A good and fun gun 
The fun is certainly there
what in the kark
how
I was playing it on my knife zealot, still wasn't feeling it but I've been using my revolver forever
i wonder whats the best blessings for the bolt pistol?
I liked the shotgun with weapon specialist to just spam shots with it
Surgical DA
Probably
Too bad it doesn't have Stripped down so I can RP as trench raider paired with the Saul
but also the accuracy blessing so it has that
Oh, not the 40K trench raider
Lol
But whatever, not enough trenches on Tertium

I'm also using the Agni maul
Idk how to feel about it
Doesn't really feel like a blunt weapon
It's not a blunt weapon, it's an average US police officer's taser
I mean, I saw this big spiked block and thought it would have more impact behind it
I'm gonna stick with it then switch between bolt pistol and shotgun see how I feel
do i buy this for melkbucks
40k police officers going "surrender or die" tactics
💀
What clearly will happen several thousand years from now unless a certain video-hosting site fixes their shit right this instant.
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Oh uh
I also tried to shock a poxburster
But since it doesn't insta shock them
It went as expected
idk if I like DA and surgical on bolt pistol
So you tased a god damn bomb
amy tac axe bros can help me out here?
i feel like its super easy to hit 1hko breakpoints without it
yeah, trying to win the Darwin Awards
it's certainly not bad, swapping the thrust for Brutal momentum and sprint for maniac and you'll have a reasonable Rashad there.
Headtaker would be preferable to shred but it's not a complete dealbreaker, particularly if you're running a more melee focused loadout with the bonus finesse nodes.
DA is something really funny when you pair it with WS
thats true
Not maniac
Unarmored
but even then I can still reach 1hko on common enemies like shotgunners and gunners if built right
But without HT and Bromentum it's not gonna work
that stringent? wouldn't the crit bonuses from shred broadly help out in the long run/
good thing i asked, i know tac axes are 100% blessing dependent
it seemed good but i didnt know what blessings i needed
Rashad is a combat axe
it's not perfect but it doesn't seem like it's worthless
No
Radhad is really strict
Boltpistol also feels like shit
Rolling for Flak/Unarmored Rashad with Bromentum and HT that oneshots bruisers is like this:
Rashad best
Rashad love
My Rashad leaves Bruisers with 1 hp with max headtaker stacks.
Rashad and Martyrdom
how do i change my characters name?
krall at the barber
it feels like a worse revolver and then you take it into a histg game and it just feels really bad
8 shots, you may not 1 tap, and then you're left with your melee
vs plasma, revolver, or even regular bolter not with this improved ammo economy
hell i was using recons and they felt ok to beam stuff with because of the giant mags
but i could not find success with pistol
The paid one
thank you!!
it's not THAT bad, it's just a worse revolver. Tbh, it would be even fine if the recoil wasn't so bad
The handling is the worst part
Shit doesn't even fire where the sights are most of the time
Guess I'm doing a "Don't bother using your ranged weapon" challenge to do this event
im guessing a glory hunter + born leader combo is probably better for this weapon
i.e. more support and utility than raw damage
bc it cant compete with revolver
that's a big mistake
if it already cant compete in terms of elite/special killing output, why would you slap on a blessing that a) isnt damage and b) inert unless you do the thing you said it's lacking at
reality is that it's perfectly effective at the role, it just isnt as good as the revolver, because the revolver is fucking stupid
I'm looking for a puncture 4 to slap on my bolt pistol
To prim things for my mercy knife
I mean, I still have serrated xD
I figure I can bleed the priority targets as I'm closing in
Before getting into melee
its too bad lethal proximity + puncture doesnt work
that sounds like it would actually be strong
Aye
kinda lame it doesnt bc srugical + DA is kinda boring
like its effective but its the same shit on HH
and functionally the same as handcannon surg on revolver
I currently have da 4 and surgical 4
Does lethal proximity give an explosion at any range?
Yes
The tooltip is worded so poorly
That's what I used to have before da
bc it can still reliably one tap enemies
it cant compete bc its recoil/stability and lack of pierce
your logic is jsut funny backwards because you should be slapping glory hunter on your revolver lol
i sthere an actual use case for this blessing lol
oh
it helps me finish off flamers ig
lol
You know
I feel like flamer specials should explode
If you hit them in their tank
i mean you could
only if it doesnt knock us back
but DA is so overkill on a lot of enemies
Yes
for bolt pistol
but extra damage is redundant so you may as well grab extra utility
and even execution isnt that bad
why not both
oh, cause surgical is going on pretty much by default
so its between those three for me
i tried point blank and then i was like, oh wait, this thing doesnt have revolver's innate crit bonus
so just a flat 20% bonus isnt really enough, even if its something
i should try my point blank agrivolver
hm
i guess puncture means you can 2x bodyshot kill ragers
It’s basically no respite which is a great shotgun blessing
without the stacking tho, which is a pretty sizeable loss
stacking?
why
it can 1hko reliably without crits
not much logic in taking extra damage when it can be built to 1hko on the gunner enemies
i guess it would help youi mag dump easier into ragers but otherwise thats not really the best idea
only use i see for bleed is keeping your DoT applied to bosses
for vet yea, zealot not so much, and surg stacks up fast enough that even brief pauses between shots tend to equal or outstrip point blank
again there's not much to put on it anyway, it already performs pretty well
so even a marginal DPS boost from an easy to access crit bonus is better than nada
i tuned the build specifically so u can avoid some stuff and still get n critless 1 taps
dreg gunner HS does like 1350 dmg so the bleed finishes them off
lol
same with flamer
im also not the type to pull out my gun and shoot until a thing is dead, i shoot once to stagger and close in
but idk if this is just meme
so, idk
maybe this is cope but this actually seems ok?
lets me go ham on taking other tnon-dmg talents too
well i havent tried other classes but this is vet chat so im just spekaing for vet
i dont see a point in damage perks when it can already 1hko
and there's always those situations where everything is going to shit and you just need to spam a bunch of knockback for a "wee" bit of breathing room :>
like u dont need deadshot anymore
you know, panic mode ^^
or anything except superiority complex really
bolt weapons are always excellent for panic mode :>
At the very least, bolt pistols handling needs to be changed
Before anything else
well, not really, jsut the anims
the numbers are fine
the bounciness is jank and excessive
handling? Like the swap speed?
Yeah
same issue with other bolter
no
people use the term handling in this chat all sorts of ways
No I mean the bouncing and the odd recoil compensation
Swap speed, aiming, recoil
i think the un-ads trick helps though
I’m literally just trying to clarify the term
yea you can flicker the sight and its a solution
just dont actually use the sights
I'm now calling it the bistol
ah ok
i saw someone call it that yesterday and I was Ike fine I’ll call it that for the rest of my life
is lethal proximity actually helpful for crowd control
yes but its costly
cause im assuming that dmg is irrelevant
yes
it is irrelevant
but it deffo works
sadly the blast on kill doesnt apply puncture in an AoE either
unreliably
surely surgical does actual secure some OHKs
ya i know
otherwise it would be a no brainer
crits dont really do anything for this meme build so idk about surgicla
ok why are naked ragers faster now this is scary
being naked in battle makes you strong
kill la kill moment
i just finished an artwork along those lines 
So, what do we all think about the new cosmetic slop
idk i aint buying more after i already wasted my money getting krieg
Still not buying it/10
Looks cool
But I’m sticking to Kasrkin
Weapon skins are nice tho
Yeh
Brought the weapon skins first
This is really good
i really wanted it to be a taxe skin
Shock maul & boltpistol skins too
i think its cope
The boltpistol has a candle on the tiny barrel it has
The game is crashing for me with some of the new skins though
well
how many shots do u usually take to down most targets
currently running puncture w/ bloodletter chainsword
i im agine its not actually very different
the gunner enemies i can 1hko
U sure it’s the skins and not just FS patch being FS patch
you can 3 bodyshot mauler too with bleed and no crits
ye
With high dmg roll, elite & maniac, u can 1 tap flamers & both gunners without crits
thats somewhat useful
what blessing/perk are good on shock maul?
yeah but you have to take more talents no?
im not sure how useful it is against crushers but not that much
im just barely short using a perfect 80
Not rly just superiority complex + longshot/redirect fire
would need longshot
yeah see
i dont need longshot and dont need to go FT
if i use bleed meme

u laugh but its legit 
i think
at least
maybe
also means 2nd blessing slot is free
u can take the stupid CC blessing i guess idk
or
bleed can finish them off but i find it un reliable
gloryhunter!?!?!?!?
Btw they stealth changed a lot of things this patch
yeah im using puncture + GH
Krak dmg 2000~200 -> 2400~200 (now 1 taps bulwarks without dmg buff)
Sprint avoid ranged dmg front 50° -> front 70° (now 55° to side instead of 65°)
Run&gun got changed, now only applies -30% spread & +12% close DMG while sprinting
run n gun always only worked while sprinting i think
yeah
why onslaught
Previously it was -30% when not sprinting, -20% while sprinting
ah ok
Society if Run&gun allowed u to reload while sprinting
ong
this is what i was running
with puncture meme
to test
see u can take a fuckton of melee talent
how dare fatshark make me walk like a plebian to put two shells in
wtb 1 more point to take agile
Always prepared is great with the shotgun
i went full right side
smonks bc gunner swarms can be a problem
i feel like you probably want surv with boltpistol
esp if you are conceding to just 2x bodyshotting ragers
for puncture
i do but the talent tax to get there is a pain
if im going for this GH + born leader shenanigans
is recon lasgun still ass?
anyway i was just trying to maximize other benefits from being able to drop everything else
thanks I got the elysian cosmetics because they are my favourite regiment but havent used the recon because it sucks
bleed only seems to push flamers over the edge with a weakspot hit, i can 1hko dreg gunners with my set up
but i also have flak + unarmored on my pistol
instead
if i dont need 10% melee
and
yea you need to headshot flamer to 1tap but i think that does not change no matter how you set up the gun
i think youre doing yourself a disservice not taking agile
F
so i looked at other options
invig + stam delay would be really nice for knife
or always prepared if that is overkill
ig
alr im going to do this dumbass build
once i get the plasteel
might as well since i cant fuggin roll DA
Agreed that 7 is the best one, "ok" is an accurate description
i think
the explosion CC nonsense is prob est
esp since you're waiting for bleed to kill stuff sometimes
lol
it takes only 1 tick for flamer but flak rager needs a few ticks
yeah
at least for maniac/elite perk
probably
ill try later
but
bloodletter chainsword does compliment puncture
albeit really only useful for monstros
What's the cleave of the Bolt rounds?
none
So it never went through targets, but the red mist hid that
Hmm
Good to know
Or is it something else? Lol
Oh hey, Stormtrooper armour.
what stats and blessings shoude i aim for on an power sword?
good stuff for the bolt pistol?
Blessings is Brutal Momentum and Power Cycler. Stats is Damage>Cleave Damage>Cleave Targets>Finesse and mobility is dump stat.
I think.
That's my take on it.
thanks i think i have som grays that can work shoude i aim for +75%?
Do not question the madman's method.
Definitely 75 plus for dmg and cleave.
Finesse you can get away with a little less.
still better than the dude I saw the other day with weakspot on a trauma staff
u see, the enemies weak spots are the soles of the feetsies
We fighting Achilles out here lmao
heresy is stored in the balls
Our Psyker be breakin ankles left and right.
so woude it be fine if i have as low as 19% mobilty? xD
why does the agri revolver do 150 less damage? have i not suffered enough by selecting it?
Power sword already has terrible dodges anyway so
No more yippee kai-yay
😔
ive yee'd my last haw
Work on your pushes with the psword
Gone is the rootin' tootin' heretic shootin'
im tryna make it work with a shock maul weapon specialist build
and it tickles the maulers
maybe i need a perk on it
I put it on my kasrkin and I just bumrush a crusher and dump 3 bullets into it.
Crucian roulette goes crazy.
Crit chance for days.
Yes, for that rending.
kk ty
is this ok or should i change deathspitter to fullbore
it’s fine as is
not that you shouldn’t be already but yeah I’ve heard it’s hard to get FB off
its more for zealot
double barrell is really fun with always prepared in your build
always prepared makes so many guns usable
Hey guys between Rashad, antrax and achlys which is the best axe?
rashad
Which blessings and perks should I use on it?
Headtaker Brutal Momentum
K thanks
the new armor set be like
what game is that
Remnant 2
Remnant?
oooh i have that but never booted it up
Yeah
The game is good, but runs like a potato salad... so it doesn't run well as potato salad has no legs.
And sentience
and muscles
i got halfway through the first one before i got completely lost on what the hell the lore is supposed to even be about
something about dimensions and people made of trees or something
idk either, all i know is root bad, kill root across the mutiverse
dimensions and trees and shit

pretty much lol
Do I have to have high damage with Rashad or 61 is alright?
Everything is finesse 80, first target 79, mobility 80, penetration 76
61 is painful
is that a grey or an orange with everything
Is grey
Ok
You need high damage too
How's 78, damage 68 finesse, 75 first target, mobility 72 and penetration 70
Prob works?
I mean this
First target is most important
yeah caxe needs a pretty tight roll tbh
Is 77 damage, 80 finesse 71 first target, 65 mobility and 79 penetration good?
what’s the difference between 71 FT and 80
Stuff in remnant 2 is complex and some weapon my friend told is rng world drop.
Works, but ideally u want first target to be as close to 80 as possible
Not like remnant 1 rng item are amulet or ring
the most important and useful remnant items are deterministic based on bosses and or how you kill them
and some puzzles here and there
Quick question, what's the best perks to have on the new mauls
hi. Is it possible to make a build for the new shotgun as a executioner stance vet?
I highly doubt it LOL
my dreams have been crushed once more
aight
Be the first, varlet.
On what?
Rashad
That's excellent.
That's a pog
Great cuz I've spent more than one million, I can make a Rashad shop by now
beautiful
simply beautiful
Oh, it looks like your teammates can get credit for the event for you 
oh wow you got off cheap
Even if you aren't using one of the weapons
Really? You have 2 rashad shops instead of one?
So I got a bit lucky I got brutal momentum 4 gotta change the other to headtaker and have 25 flak armor and 20 enemies without armor which I think is the one I should change but in what? Carapace?
Is that supposed to be PTSD on how much coins you spent for finding a good Rashad?
so 25 flak 20 unarmored BM 4?
Yeah I figure I should change 20 unarmored
just switch the other blessing for headtaker and honestly unarmored is pretty ok because it’s a great horde clear bonus
carapace also works if you don’t plan on using a great can opener ranged weapon with it
So I should switch it up to 25 unarmored?
you got a great caxe I’m jealous
yeah I mean you can always swap it later you got the two most important things already, flak and bm
Right thanks
With the new skin is gonna look hot, that's why I'm getting into the axe now
Think I carried this one
The new maul actually kind of slaps.
anyone got a build for the new bolter pistol?
true rager gameplay
Indeed
Well you waant
BM, Headtaker
Unarmoured
Yup got it
So is unarmored good in general? Is the first time I'll be using it, I usually go for flak and carapace and sometimes , folly
yeah tbh it’s underrated generally
I mean it's specific use cases
for melee weapons
Not every melee weapon takes unarmoured
Ofc
Like for example would it be good on a chainsword?
Like in the case of tashad you neeed unarmoured
Uh, I don't know 
I know Dclaw might want it on a specific blessing
I have a chainsword with fury and wrath then 25 flak and 20 the bulwark type of enemy
Yeah? I'm translating from my language, basically hit 3 enemies with an attack and more 36 damage for 3 seconds
ok ya I was wondering if it was a translation
that’s pretty good as is
wrath helps you proc rampage in scab mixed hordes which have higher hit mass than normal lights can cleave through 3 enemies in
unyielding is good for bosses
Iirc it adds more cleave
But I don't remeberrr
On my DC I have skull crusher and violent cut? 20 plus impact to target for every enemy already hit with the same attack
But perks not so good I suppose 25 infested and 15 block efficiency
rampage +shred/wrath/savage sweep imo
flak + maniac
I’m pretty sure maniac + crit enables rager and mutie ohks but i dont exactly recall
Maniac elites would do that better imo, (or spec for muties but it isn’t like dclaw is slow for the 2nd hit)
recon memes
jfc the new mission is honestly so brutal
i like it tho
hope they add more like it
feels like every time u turn around there's a rager behind you
or something
Okay time to test this axe, too bad is on my second veteran, if the weapon is good, oh well I still got 11 mil I guess
I like it too is pretty fun, I like the aesthetics too
Good thing the crafting update will hopefully be here before the end of summer
guys
what was the female vet voiceline that sounds like rinda
"leave none aliiive"
first fatshark game?
37.1 years
f cutthroat
are you asking what personality that is
yeah it’s cutthroat
she also just got more lines added
it’s a pretty cool personality tbh
you clearly haven't huffed enough copium as the rest of us
none of you people SHARE the copium
cause funnnnny
What's that chest cosmetic
hestia
lacerate knife,
than Redhead
knife lacerate
was tempted to write Lick Iori Feet for blue archive jokes
@flat pebble ok si the axe rocks! I'm going to ask you advice in the future if you don't mind ^
sure!
caxe has one of the more simple perk/blessing combinations, other weapons often have more room for preference
Prob the hardest mission in the game rn
bolt pistol my beloved
does this top make me look fat? 
Yes
I find the big open areas doable with smoke grenades
i hate the beginning portion of that mission
the ramps down to the first event room are so crowded and full of barrels
there's a little secret back tunnel you can take away from the big drop
though it was full of ragers and gunners when I stumbled into it by accident ^^
but still
just keep an eye on the right hand side, it's got a drop half way through but avoiding most of the edge is very welcome
i saw 3 people go through the secret tunnel only for a BoN to walk in and trap al three of them
that was funny
Thinking of double barrel really is worth it
yeah basically any tunnel ijn the first area that is a one way drop i avoid
its just asking for the director to spawn a bon on you and wipe you
lmao
tbh even getting stuck with a chaos spawn in there is not fun either
What's the best power sword at the moment?
6
do one more
46% finesse anyway lol
does anyone else immediately crash in the first loading screen with mods?
Unarmored is good
it was already dead
thats fine the finesse values are negligible
isn’t it literally swing speed
Literally my all time fav primary for weapon specialist
i wouldn’t say negligible
yea but its 8 vs 11% at max
what about the damage modifiers for weakspot and crit
Yeah gotta replace the axe though since can't crowd control and need to spin for the double barrel perk because reload speed is killing me
Lmao I love I got my dream build first roll
Speaking of BM
Run and gun and the double barrel reload
tadah
tadahhhhh
now wait for powercycler
in the meantime you can swap crit for flak or maniac or really just fukken whatever
Flak probs
what does collateral do on bolt pistols
stagger values
stagger
so this is fine?
i like carapace for the clean crusher delete on the push attack combo
ye thats fine
i’d say it’s great
yea like all options are fairly equal for psword
altho damage could be a smidge higher
unarmored lets you slap scab bruisers across the head in one electric light
thats really it
i’d do flakiac for the bistol personally
should i even bother with this damage stat?
Not double barrel perk but I'll keep it
id still do it
First auric damnation with the recon II. My first impressions are that it slaps pretty well.
This was my other one
that’s the same one twice
I think I still prefer the recon VI, but I had much much better ammo economy with the II. I think I was shooting pretty much 95% of the time
waht u guys think of this build for the colum mk5 inf auto
just go down middle now that survivalist is nerfed
so you can get more points in focus target
surv isnt worth it any more?
take it into a no ammo maelstrom but its not going to make most missions easier anymore
at least thats my feeling
it’s still good lol
you're not actively handicapping yourself by not taking it anymore
i wouldn’t use the tac reload talent or whatever the one on the top left is, the throughput is already fine imo
could swap it for redirect fire
my feeling is, if you want kraks > shredder, you can probably live without survavilist and get a spare point on the tree
i was thinkin that since the colum isnt good vs carpace i need a big boi breaker
thats why i wanted kraks instead of shredder
ive been running without it for a bit and i havent felt much pressure
though i personally love shred
shredders rock
you definitely notice the lack of og survalist
if you don’t run onslaught you’ll want a can opener melee or kraks tho
i think if you have a gunlugging ogryn, its most noticeable. for him.
When did they nerf survivalist?
what should i do with this
uhhh like 2 or 3 patches ago
path of redemption in april
still good, not 10 tiers above everything else good
Wait, it has an internal cd?
ya
id love to take onslaught for the mk5 Inf auto but thats 4 points i dont know where to take frmo
6s iirc
yea so packs of dogs no longer top your entire squad from 0 to full lmao
5 sec
i havent tried maelstrom without it, but aurics seem fine
still good, but not completely mandatory on more efficient guns
considering how strong melee options are in general its hardly mandatory
That’s is such a bummer. Was making concessions in my build to get to survivalist.. Going to drop it now.. 5s is so long in auric..
survivalist went from being the most overpowered node in the game to only being the best aura in the game, sad days we live in
yea and if your group has a staff psyker or non gunlugging ogryn, you probably dont need it
idk 5% movespeed is very enticing tbh
is suppression immunity worth?
cdr is awesome no matter what
I’d still agree it’s decent as an aura, but that side of the tree is dooky
dealers choice
i don’t think it’s manadatory on the columnus iag
plasma? really?
Not in my opinion. There are few parts of maps that gunfire is unavoidable, and the talent tree is tight. If you’re already going down that path then sure
yea its annoying to whiff shit with single shot weapons
well
is the plasma even affected wait
it doesnt ADS
i don’t think i’ve ever noticed being noticeably suppressed with plasma lol
it still really good. Say if you manage to get 8 procs of survivalist per minute(out of the potential 12) in a 20 minute mission
thats still 160% ammo capacity regenerated for you and potentially your entire team as well
you might be right!
yeah i mean it hipfires
try it without i think you’ll be pleasantly surprised
Between II and VII, which recon have people been preferring.
i’ve seen people run all 3 now
i think it’s pretty much up to personal preference atp
I think the II is in a good spot. VI is very fun and good, but I’d want to know I could hog the ammo.
it uses more ammo than the II apparently but with shocktrooper you’re still generating a ton of ammo
assuming you’re running HH which obviously you should
Shock trooper?
lasgun crits refund ammo
I don’t go that side of the tree. In my build. Else I’d agree. Running infiltrate *
based
same ratings too, how serendipitous
it’s what really what turns the recons into bullet hoses, i’d recommend seeing what you can do to get it
I think you’re right, I should make a build that doesn’t go infiltrate and pick that up.
sneaky posted a video with ST that showed them kill in a crusher using a net total of 10 rounds because of the ammo refunds
On auric damnation the infiltrate is pretty rad though. Easy objectives
ok... this might sound weird but...
it's been a while since I've used a Devilclaw sword and for some reason I don't remember it feeling quite so sticky on the power and push attacks?
like it feels like there's a little tiny delay between actions?
idk feels normal to me still
aye... I'm sure it's just me but it feels like there was a tiny little input delay on the actions in that last mission
What primary would people recommend for recon. I’ve been using power sword, but curious if something else might be better for occasions. Devils claw maybe?
i run it knife cause thats the most elysian thing u can do
other than csword
but also despite the buffs its still principally a weapon that operates best in close ranges instead of as a marksman support tool
depends on your blitz and if you’re making a build that has onslaught i’d say
if you have kraks or onslaught i’d say devils claw is good
I’ll give devils a try
7a seems better
Depends on the gun ur using
Should I grab this Mk VIIa to upgrade and see if it'll be better?
sure why not if you’ve got the dosh
I’d say no. Mobility stat is wasted stats personally
Do wish the ammo wasn't quite that much less.
...I'm more looking at every except ammo being better
take it to look for dumdum blessing
oh i didn’t realize the right has like functionally 50 more rounds
that’s kind of a lot
Even with the extra damage the left has, the right would do more damage per magazine typically.
is rending strikes worth on the column mk 5 inf auto?
I'll probably grab it to upgrade for blessings to nab off either way but I'm wonderin if it's worth keeping
ahhh wait... in regards to the bolt pistol and proximity blessing... do boltguns have a minimum arming distance for the explosive normally?
They do now
yes
rrrrriiight... now I get what it's doing
somehow had it in my head that it was some sort of air burst trigger round for getting past bulwark shields and cover xD
but ace, that works
nah it’s just for more easily creating breathing room point blank
don’t expect the explosion itself to do much damage fwiw
yea its like, 50 damage
it WILL however instantly detonate any poxbursters the explosion touches
aye, it's more the AoE stagger/supression
watch out for that lmao
way to get some breathing room mid fight and whatnot
neat!
is that even good rofl it seems good
seems like a solid base to work from
i dont know what to aim for on this one
change exec to surgical and it's gonna be perfecto
maybe swap execution for surgical?
But why are bolt pistols so under powered?
flak/unyielding is probably ok, popping reaper heads and what not
can u show the weapon stats u got here? and build for that matter
What?
Ive only gotten shit lasguns so far
Ur not gonna believe this but boltpistol’s breakpoints want maniac + elite

yeah
the bosses also count as unyielding, so
+20% boss dmg
dam haha
on a boltweapon
so just on my own attempt with Hadron, sadly not so lucky ^^
im so trained to love flak
with DA Surg?
Whats the bless on double barrel? Also do I also need stopping power? Or its simple stagger
Yea
Veteran can hit flamer/gunner 1HS with maniac + elite
Ok I am sorry for complaining those are some really good stats
is this w/o agile engage
I mean... I might be able to manage something with this? lethal proximity and execution theoretically... something?
maybe just fix the perks and use this on my combat specialist loadout
Without
so should i swap unyielding for maniac and exe for surg for that pistol?
Agile doesn’t contribute much for this gun breakpoint-wise
Unless ur perks don’t give u the 1 tap
Yes
il give it a try
not bad for the first one i made rofl
im used to like waaay more
niiice that guy said elite dmg is the one to go for
aye, 10% woudl be better, but honestly getting bent out of shape for not managing a perfect roll isn't worth the trouble.
will roll up a pile of blues to try and unlock surgical and just roll with it ^^
...
I guess I somehow did something to make Hadron like me today:
haha she likes u more than me on my second one i conscen i got tier 3 surg to add to mine
jealous
i need surg 4 still
the machine god is most generous
it’s purty
Currently my best roll of the new shock battons. I bullied a rager swarm by constantly stunning them
how does the timed blocking blessing feel?
I don't get why some people say bolt pistol is a meme gun, to me is a totally viable gun
And fun to use
same reason people think bolter is a meme gun probably
Like timing devil-claw parries for the "perfect parry"
yeah
you do have to get a specific build going though
takes a bit of getting used to, but once you get the timing down it makes you basically immune to ragers
I mean It was from a zealot tho
I mean I don't have any specific build and it goes just fine
zealot chat isn’t known for consistent good takes
having to 2-shot some things is weird though
since the revolver can oneshot them
God forbid, I've never set foot into that chat, it was a dead zealot watching me
aye, I think comparing it directly to the revolver isn't "quite" right to be fair to the Bistol
oh lmao i’d trust feedback from in game players even less
the revolver is more about eliminating that one specific dude "right now"... the boltpistol feels more like a mainline gun
bistol vet is really good though
i’m about it, it’s a fun power fantasy
kinda hard to deal with ragers with it consistently ime
great against the rest of the elites and specials barring mutants
I'm not arguing the revolver is better but I just think is a perfectly alright gun can even make so badass stuff with executioner and deadshot
Yeah I agree with this
aye you can keep the bolt pistol out a lot longer and keep shooting without getting crunched by the ammo quite as much
yeah
And I think the reload is quite quick, not to mention if you get buffs on reload like the reload with some ammo perk
Goddamn the shock maul + bolt pistol combo is BRUTAL with weapons specialist
been doin the same
not terribly, beyond where those points are distributed in the bars
How do we feel about the shock maul? Meh or good?
Shock mall my beloved 😍

you got shock mail!
surprised your dude friend? that’s a shocked paul
its so fun
This weapon skin is kinda bad on the iron sights tho, there’s a flame right over em you can’t even see where you’re aiming
oh so a candle with which we commemorate the god emperors most glorious sacrifice is a distraction to you is that right
in isolation its fine but its difficult not to compare it to the zarona
why being shot in the chest by an explosive bolt doesnt immediately kill something is kind of weird when you consider a revolver can pierce through 3 shotgunners
best shock maul for weapons specialist?
I mean it wouldn't be a darktide bolter without garbage irons
he's got an iron deficiency this is what the doctor prescribed him 🥰
this makes me wildly uncomfortable
its super nasty
it’s like when a smoker has to use one of those throat mic things to talk except on steroids
What blessings are you running?
Infernus and the one that stacks crit for each weak spot hit
headhunter
Thanks
Ye
Running recon on exe builds seems way better than when I was using it on a voice build
Yeah
Warms my soul.
that reload speed node under survivalist should just be ranged damage
id hate to advocate for a vet buff but there, i said it
i hate that node so much
any time i wanna try xstance i have to stare at it and really commit to the absolute biggest L you could spend a talent point on
and it hurts every single time i do it
i just stopped reading so it doesn’t affect me anymore
damn thats a move
any recommendations for improvement?
maniac elite and ur gud
sweet
Here's your 5%, please ignore the talents that give 25-30% and the blessings that give 50-70% reload speed.
does elite give a bp beyond dreg gunner
since they already have unarmoured
yea tried the reload one on new sawed off not very good.
i defer to numbercats but i just use flakiac with agile engagement and ws
and it do me just fine
not having surgical is unfortunate but not an unworkable loss
and i think proximity is kinda legit lmao
executioner on bp..
it’s usable
probably more useful on nonvet
huh?
Yes give me a moment to get to my computer real quick
Nah
reload speed node discussion
oh
mates have you guys seen the new rebreather?
😌
What's more 40k then staggering enemies with shout and popping them?
It's a catch 22, the cadian has the best battlecries but has the worst dialogue
blasting hot lead onto the heretics
Literally "FOR THE EMPEROR" bang bang bang
mmmm
VICTORY OR DEATH!
shooting thick ropes onto loyalists (i'm a trapper)
all the vets have good shout lines
i switched my loose cannon to professional though, i had a game with 3 vets and an oggy and it was triple-LC
schizo lc

cutthroat has some cute interaction with ogryns
cutthroat and professional sound very similar, which sort of sucks
the voices are difficult to discern sometimes
idk they sound pretty different to me
I run deadly accurate and crit chance while aiming then flak and carapace. Really good sometimes on taking out the heavy armor.I don’t get lethal proximity. So if you miss your shot it doesn’t explode without this perk?
it just turns off the priming distance
missed shots are missed shots
My dude from cadia, just never loved the cutthroat so I changed him to loose cannon. Loose cannon for life.
cutthroat sounds mean as fuck with the deeper pitched vox helmets
that’s why i use it
a fair reason
@wraith flare I used an extra silly clown set up for that original test and have since confirmed through more testing that the Recon Mk VId can still achieve 3500-3600 DPS on a Crusher with a less silly talent tree if you get a Recon Mk VId with 80% damage stat, Infernus IV, Headhunter IV, +25% Crusher and +10% Elite. Depending on your damage stat, if you run Carapace perk, if you run elite perk and if you go Longshot route or Confirmed Kill route (and if you drop Bring It Down for Demo Team to get nade regen) your DPS can vary from 3000 to 3600 DPS when using the Recon Mk VId with Onslaught/Rending Strikes/Focus Target/Exe Stance/Shock Trooper
I have a new Recon now that's SLIGHTLY better with Elite instead of Maniac, slightly more ammo stat and slightly more collateral stat for less stability stat (which is a dump stat when running Exe Stance/Deadshot anyway LOL)
join game, fighting pogryn at first part of new map
teammate immediately barrels 2 of us a map
love to see it
Good blessing combo for Indignatus maul?
you can check the event progress by pulling up the tactical overlay in the mourningstar and cycling through that
if you mean the mastery challenges, those won’t be in the game until at least 3 months later
I'd lose sleep over that
like i was actually in such a good posisition to join in, throw kraks, and go to town iwth my chsword
i would of never found that
I will share the revised talent tree in a sec
thanks
of the new guns which is worth me investing into first?
uh
double barrel if you love stealth vet gameplay
the other if you don't
double barrel excels on stealth vet
thanks for the info!
weapon specialist makes it really useful too
always prepared makes hotswapping super fun
feels like doom eternal
but i just optimized for 45% sprint efficiency and 9 stamina
run n gun feels fun to use on the double barrel
gotta go fast
playing a shout vet custom build that I use as my favorite and this shotgun combo is insane


