#veteran-class

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tropic imp
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You can send them and I'll watch them, but it's hard to argue against maths in a numbers game

tall torrent
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the main problem with dreg rager rn is that they attack incredibly fast

somber axle
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Do you use Deadshot or are you someone silly relying entirely on base weapon crit chance, the 5% crit chance talent node and a 5% crit chance perk? Because I can guarantee you I'd out DPS you any day of the week using my Headhunter and while doing better damage I'll use less ammo too

desert isle
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💀

tropic imp
somber axle
tall torrent
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scab ragers are problematic for a different reason

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they have so much mass they just block ur cleave

tropic imp
tall torrent
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whereas dreg ragers combo stupidly fast

somber axle
wraith flare
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WHAT IS THAT TEXT I NEED IT

somber axle
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Lemme show you something real quick. Then I challenge you to do the same with whatever you do

somber axle
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Take your set up, go to the Psykanium

somber axle
flat crypt
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🍿

tropic imp
wraith flare
somber axle
tall torrent
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somber axle
tropic imp
last parcel
tall torrent
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recon is 2 crit string

somber axle
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Thanks Backup!

tardy turtle
somber axle
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But yeah go to that link and click Vet

tall torrent
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so in 1 crit proc u apply 8 stacks of burn

somber axle
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it will let you choose your talents

tall torrent
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also they increased recon7a cleave

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from 2.7 to 3.0

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no actual difference tho

last parcel
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an integer chadgryn

wraith flare
tall torrent
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now it's 3/4 burn stack per crit, max 9/12 stacks

last parcel
tall torrent
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u get more stacks per crit and therefore reach max stacks faster

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even on 7a I'd rate infernus over dum dum now

flat crypt
tall torrent
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well, maybe equal for 7a

tall torrent
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for other 2 I think infernus is better

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especially 6d

somber axle
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This is a Recon Mk VId doing 3600 DPS against a Crusher. It has spectacular TTK/DPS on other elites/specials too. It used 10 ammo in this recording. Through testing I was able to get that ammo cost down to 5 ammo spent

tall torrent
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6d is 100% infernus better

wraith flare
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Don’t tell anyone

flat crypt
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sry! My bad

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We're not supposed to talk publicly anyway

last parcel
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it's too late

flat crypt
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But u know, Torille! kun joku mainitsee suomen jossain

tall torrent
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I still don't think infernus is that worth taking for laspistols tho

wraith flare
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I identify as a Mexican now

tall torrent
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it's just good on recon

last parcel
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i'm already looking up finland anthromorphized r34

tall torrent
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laspistol still gets more value out of dum dum + ghost, simply the best

wraith flare
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But also TORILLE!

tall torrent
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infantry lasguns don't have blessing slot to spare for infernus

last parcel
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what marketplace

tall torrent
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and helbore straight up doesn't care abt infernus

somber axle
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The funny part about that recording? Survivalist Aura refunds 9 ammo on my 50% ammo stat Recon Mk VId. Keep in mind that Survivalist Aura restores ammo based on total reserve %. Which means a higher reserve ammo is more ammo restored each time Survivalist Aura procs. This is worst case scenario for a Recon Mk VId restoring ammo. Even still restoring 9 ammo on a Crusher kill while only using 5 ammo means going ammo positive on a Crusher kill. 10 ammo means you spent 1 ammo killing the Crusher

tall torrent
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also boltpistol is 0.001 ranged cleave, meaning it can't cleave anything

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but the explosion does stagger

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and it has very good initial hipfire accuracy (not recoil)

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the DB shotgun's quick bash (uncharged special) for some reason has 6.5 cleave (more than the shots themselves)

somber axle
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wait numbers cat

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what does this mean

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it looks like a nerf

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but you said it was buffed

tall torrent
somber axle
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am I illiterate today

tall torrent
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pre-patch

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HB/iLas, laspistol and recon had different infernus values

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pre-patch, HB/iLas was 4/crit, max 10-12 stacks
laspistol was 3/crit, forgot how many max stack (not the same as others)
and recon was 2/crit, max 10/12 stacks

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now it's unified as 3-4 per crit, max 9-12 stacks

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somber axle
tall torrent
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this doesn't really change it for HB/iLas

somber axle
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So Infernus cap is the same but it stacks better on Recons

tall torrent
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because nobody uses it on those guns anyway

somber axle
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Does this mean with a crit string it applies 4 stacks per crit for a total 8 stacks just from a SINGLE crit??

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since like

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all Recons have a crit string of 2

tall torrent
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for laspistol it's arguable, I think scrier's gaze + infernus + dum dum + empathic evasion + 5% crit aura + 5% crit node is a disgusting combo

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since psyker has empathic evasion to not necessarily need ghost

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dum dum also boosts infernus' DOT, and stacks from infernus' DOT

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no reason not to go turbo dmg on gun psyker for that

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the main buff is for recon

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take example, infernus IV

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pre-patch, 2/crit to max 12 stacks

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post-patch, 4/crit to max 12 stacks

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2-string on crit

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so u get 8 stacks of burn from crit proc once

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and ur gonna crit a ton anyways

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even on 7a with the lowest firerate (3 cleave)

tough tiger
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so uhm what do u guys thunk about itemization rework?

tall torrent
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getting to shoot 8~12 stacks of burn on top of base dmg through low mass enemies

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seems pretty good to me

somber axle
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That does sound very nice

thick kestrel
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yarp, looks promising

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no more hadron bricking good bases and full control over perks/blessings

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thick kestrel
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only "downside" is you'll need to run a weaker version of a weapon for a bit while you level it up

tall torrent
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u can grind to basically fix bad rolls with it

tough tiger
thick kestrel
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and honestly that just feels like a reasonable way to have some people eat some humble pie and others to not feel utterly outclassed because they didn't get lucky

tall torrent
thick kestrel
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you get an oppertunity to learn a lot by not using perfect weapons all the time, worth doing

tall torrent
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that's the only thing that'll give u a headstart in the new mastery unlocks

thick kestrel
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yep!

somber axle
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The first few days after the customization update are going to be wild LMFAO

thick kestrel
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and particularly the ability to switch and adapt the "pattern" of your weapon is a HUGE touch

tough tiger
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itemization + discount on steam = big playerbase jump hopefully

tall torrent
dusky raven
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nice ammo count

tough tiger
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time to make ppl forget about middivers 2

tall torrent
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does it mean like, u can convert ur antax roll into a rashad? or smth else

somber axle
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Looks like we hit a peak of 8,739 players today

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but like

thick kestrel
somber axle
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it was probably higher the day of the Secrets of the Machine God drop

tough tiger
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servers were kinda fucked on day 1 tho

tall torrent
somber axle
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were they? I got in ok

thick kestrel
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very fair, still optimistic

tall torrent
thick kestrel
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how many times have we seen a strong melk roll but it's the wrong version of the gun?

tall torrent
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and also everybody & their mother was using boltpistol
but none of them could hit their shots

thick kestrel
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^^

last parcel
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just had to call me out like that

somber axle
rigid schooner
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wait, stupid question
for the double barrel how do you fire both barrels at once? i could only test for a few minutes

somber axle
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it's why most of them stopped using boltpistol

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LMFAO

rigid schooner
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also, i'm guessing that the double barrel is best on vet for reload bonuses, right?

tall torrent
thick kestrel
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hipfire = single shot, braced fire: double shot

tall torrent
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it's helped a lot

somber axle
limpid turret
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just rolled this on my vet kekdoge not the best stat distribution but ig nothing itemization can't fix later

any important perks I should switch out for, or is flak/maniac good for this guy

rigid schooner
thick kestrel
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I get the vibe that the bolt-pistol is going to be kind of like how we currently use the combat shot-guns? more precise than you think, lots of kick but pretty good at taking out priority targets.

rigid schooner
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oh yeah, doesn't the bolt pistol have a lot of blessings that effect explosions? what are good ones that make the kaboom

tall torrent
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Low SP could be problematic

tough tiger
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btw what blessings/buffs for the bolt pistol

tall torrent
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Because the kaboom is mainly there for stagger

tough tiger
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i got some funky ones so far but i dont think they are very helpful

rigid schooner
tall torrent
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It’s hard to say no to surgical/point blank + DA

thick kestrel
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I am intrigued by the proximity shell blessing for the bolt pistol though... that could have some interesting synergy with the bleed blessing

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thick kestrel
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would full bore be what we want on the boomstick thinking on it? it has a MUCH more traditional videogame weapon spread so getting every pellet on target might be tricker than with the combat shotties?

tough tiger
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i wonder if u get get bonus dmg if u do the special + m1 combo on bolt pistol?

somber axle
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Just not as good as like

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DA/Surg

tall torrent
somber axle
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If the boom applied the bleed it would be funny for horde control LMFAO

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but sadly it doesn't

tall torrent
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and the +20% dmg only really maybe helps vs mauler

somber axle
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no bleed and boom memes on boltpistol

tall torrent
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I don't think it even changes rager breakpoint if u have the right perks

thick kestrel
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wait... boomstick with manstopper and flechette... combat specialist to get the 100% crit...

it's got a VERY nice spread...

tall torrent
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mainly because range is shit

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and horrible cleave

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flechette also doesn't do much without rending

thick kestrel
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well fair... but still... rip and tear :>

tall torrent
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and ur not gonna apply 12 bleed fast on a gun that reloads more often than it shoots

thick kestrel
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more realistically... I'm thinking deathspitter/both barrels might be a solid plan?

tall torrent
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yes that blessing gives u a unique reload animation

thick kestrel
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ha!

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glorious

winter grove
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Yeah

tall torrent
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therefore it's automatically the best blessing available

rigid schooner
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so "an enemy" counts even just a single poxwalker, right?

thick kestrel
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hrm... so the bonus damage blessings do appear to be deathspitter and full bore?

just on the quick playabout it does seem like fullbore might not be as easy to trigger than on other shotguns

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purely because of the wide spread

rigid schooner
thick kestrel
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hrm... we do have the new bonus damage on run and gun now...

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that might be easier to get activated

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and, lets be fair, you're going to be running things down a lot with the boomstick ^^

thick kestrel
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ha!

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combine with the shock mauls for maximum BONK

tall torrent
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utility blessings are more useful for this gun

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deathspitter is like, ok ig

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but full bore is no

thick kestrel
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mhmm... for utility it's got... T-barrage, speedload, both barrels and hit & run?

tall torrent
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both barrels + hit & run

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pretty good

thick kestrel
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yeah... I can see that

tall torrent
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if u had to run dmg I'd prob go BB + DS

thick kestrel
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hrm... I guess I might as well throw some resources at it and see what hadron provides as a starting platform

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ok... I decided to just go with this one despite the terrible mobility but I'm... not mad?

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for a first try I could certainly get worse ^^

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so try to get both barrels to replace speedload... swap specialists for a more direct damage probably?

thick kestrel
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true, but you've tempted me with the special animation :>

tall torrent
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I think
Deathspitter/Hit & run + Both barrels/speedload

dense ermine
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man stopper and hit 'n' run is also good combo since you will most likely use Weapon Specialist with it

thick kestrel
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hrm... do I want flak or Maniac to go with Elite damage...

tall torrent
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Mauler 1 shot

thick kestrel
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ooooh

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dense ermine
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from my testing flak break point are easier to reach

thick kestrel
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yeah that'll do :>

rigid pilot
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Is

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Elite damage recommended?

dense ermine
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though both scab and tox flamers are hard to 1hk

tall torrent
dense ermine
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only close headshot can 1hk them

tall torrent
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And gives easier reaper 1 shot

rigid pilot
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Maniac for flamer?

tall torrent
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This gun has way too short range

dense ermine
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yeah

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also going for bodyshots is better for most ranges

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only close range is good for headshots

somber axle
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I love the Boltpistol but my aim with it still sucks LMFAO

shadow aurora
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Yeah the hipfire feels really good to use

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Even though i dont hit anything

tough tiger
somber axle
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With Exe Stance + Marksman's Focus and some rending it can very comfortably 1HKO Crushers

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but wow

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I'm relying a lot on Camo to get and keep 10 stacks

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I need to improve my aim

shadow aurora
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Can you post a video

somber axle
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The funny part is that the regular Boltgun can't 1HKO Crushers with this talent set up

somber axle
last parcel
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one

shadow aurora
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Times upKEKW_ogryn

tough tiger
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beat him up

somber axle
last parcel
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mods

shadow aurora
last parcel
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beat the honk out of the clown

shadow aurora
somber axle
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Boltpistol weirdly benefits a lot from rending to achieve 1HKO on Crushers

tough tiger
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is it a meme build like the recon las?

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or actually viable

shadow aurora
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If it can one tap crushers id assume its pretty good

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Probably hard to keep marksman stacks up though even with good aim

somber axle
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depends on if you consider Exe Stance or Marksman's Focus a meme

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if you think they're both legitimate then no, but if you think they're goofy then yes

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You can swap The Bigger They Are off Exe Stance into Demo Team if you want nade regen

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I just don't use grenades enough to care LOL

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And I'd rather have the refresh from 1 tapping Crushers

somber axle
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It's surprisingly easy to build and keep 10 stacks with Camo

shadow aurora
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I dont like standing still hurumphangymorrow

somber axle
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Oh also to clarify

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That recording was an old set up testing 1HKO and used Close Quarters Kill Zone for the breakpoint

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after more clown science testing

last parcel
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kid named headshotting someone every 6 seconds

somber axle
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I discovered that it was unnecessary

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You really only need For the Emperor, Marksman, 10 stack Marksman's Focus, Exe Stance, Bring It Down and Rending Strikes/Chink in their Armour with +Carapace perk

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which sounds like a weird list to follow the word "only"

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but I didn't have to do weird Redirect Fire shenanigans, didn't use Fire Team and didn't need Close Quarters Kill Zone

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so it felt like an easier 1HKO to maintain

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You don't even need Longshot

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Also the Boltpistol default speed reload at 67% reload stat is fast enough to reload and maintain Exe Stance without Tactical Reload or Volley Adept

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so I didn't feel the need to get any further reload speed

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days ago I thought the extra reload was 100% necessary but after more practice I realise I was just inexperienced LOL

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OH ALSO

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important to note that the 10% extra rending from Chink in their Armour and the finesse power from Marksman's Focus is what makes the 1HKO achievable on the Boltpistol

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I tried hitting 1HKO Crusher with Focus Target and even with 8 stack my Boltpistol failed to hit 1HKO

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it comes REALLY close though

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10% elite perk would push it over

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The suppression hurts on Boltpistol so either use Exe Stance for suppression immunity or run Determined because you'll struggle to consistently land shots down range with the Boltpistol's wonky sights especially when suppression is shaking your gun too

last parcel
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just always queue with an elite damage aura psyker chadgryn

shadow aurora
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Idk how you retain this much information. I have enough to make a semi decent build and thats it

shadow aurora
somber axle
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I like experimenting in the Psykanium for breakpoints

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Exe Stance's only real purpose is to reduce talent tree investment to hit and maintain breakpoints or hit breakpoints builds otherwise can't when running Voice of Command or Infiltrate (even with Surprise Attack)

shadow aurora
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Wall hacks if you run plasma

somber axle
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Like a Helbore Mk II NEEDS Maniac perk to 1HKO both Flamers and Unarmoured perk to 1HKO Dreg Gunners but if you run Exe Stance + Focus Target with Redirect Fire you suddenly can ignore both of those perks because you consistently meet them

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Then you can grab Carapace as a perk and double down on Crusher killing

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Without Exe Stance and without Carapace perk a Helbore Mk II requires anywhere from 5-7 shots depending on the rest of your talent tree and your Damage/Stopping Power stats

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that's a LOT

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with Exe Stance and Carapace perk you drop that down to 2-3 shots

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imagine

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a gun that fires as fast as the Helbore Mk II with Weight of Fire and Charge stat at 75%+ being able to kill a Crusher for virtually free using Surgical + Deadshot to get 100% crit chance on each shot and making those shots free with Shock Trooper

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You go ammo positive and your TTK is silly

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If you get a combat stim you can even 1HKO Crushers with the Helbore Mk II using Exe Stance

shadow aurora
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And people say helbore is badKEKW_ogryn

somber axle
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The breakpoints you can achieve with the Helbore Mk II and Exe Stance are actually insane

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the difference between non-Exe Stance Helbore Mk II and a Helbore Mk II using Exe Stance are massive

slate hawk
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The difference is me dead on the ground KEKW_ogryn

somber axle
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Exe Stance is really niche and you probably shouldn't use it unless you're using it SPECIFICALLY to hit breakpoints and alleviate talent tax pressure elsewhere

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otherwise Voice of Command and Infiltrate will get much better use

slate hawk
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I'd have the double check when I dislike losing like 40 toughness because on how my Build is when doing executioner stance

somber axle
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What does your talent tree set up look like? Eyes

slate hawk
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Pretty based

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I can't tell you what my executioner stance build Is because I am currently at work

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But this is my typical build

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I jokingly say based because I don't use any keystones

somber axle
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I'm surprised at no keystone but I also used to run no keystone a long time ago until Numbers Cat told me to start using keystones

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They all provide a LOT of value

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but that value for each keystone is dependant on your weapon tbh

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Is this for Helbore?

slate hawk
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When the double barrel shock gets fixed I think I will definitely give the weapon specialist Keystone a good run

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And I am a plasma gun user

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I like my point click adventure game

somber axle
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Weapon Specialist Keystone is the best keystone to pair with Double Barrel Shotgun at the moment

slate hawk
somber axle
slate hawk
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@shadow aurora If you don't like it that much just go ahead and block me I'm sick and tired of all that negative bullshit

shadow aurora
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?

somber axle
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Here it is!

slate hawk
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I was also not aware that there were more than one cat lol

shadow aurora
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Sorry man i was joking didn't know itd upset you that much

somber axle
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Vet chat has a lot of people with either "Cat" in the name or pfps of cats

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I call Numbers Cat that name because their discord name here is just numbers and their pfp is a cat and idk what else to call them (and they didn't correct me when I started referring to them as Numbers Cat) so that became the name I use for them
Soldier 69 also has a cat pfp

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we are not the only cats

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there are more

slate hawk
shadow aurora
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Fair enough. The joke is definitely overdone

somber axle
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Also! Silver Phantom check with Numbers Cat on the stats necessary to hit the right breakpoints because I know Focus Target + Redirect Fire is there specifically for certain breakpoints (Dreg Gunner 1HKO is one of them afaik) but you need certain stats on Damage/Stopping Power to meet them with Focus Target + Redirect Target through the talent tree there

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I don't know breakpoints/stat requirements for Plasma because I don't use that weapon or test it much

slate hawk
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It still boggles my mind that a drag gunner with no armor is more tanky than a scab gunner with armor

rigid pilot
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In the old days you ran unarmored to oneshot dreg gunner arms with exestance

thick kestrel
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yeah... its more that the dregs while less armoured than the scabs are... well... more nurgled...

somber axle
rigid pilot
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ADM is just bungled as a whole

thick kestrel
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honestly it's a neat little differentiation

rigid pilot
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Like a grey boltpistol does more damage to flak than unarmored

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Like how KEKW_ogryn

torpid sundial
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uhhh, whats the diff between the two new shock mauls

thick kestrel
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I'm quite eager to see how it differs if and or when we see Genestealer cultists turn up and how their surviability differs from the scabs and dregs

thick kestrel
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lord knows Sefoni is almost outright telling us that there are Genestealers active on Atoma...

finite carbon
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But primarily moveset. Indignatus has some nice, clean sweeps, but Agni has consistent strikedowns

thick kestrel
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her little lines in the Psykanium are getting less and less vague...

flat crypt
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Just wanted to say that this piece of conversation right here restored some faith in humanity/gaming community in a world filled with trolls and haters ❤️

slate hawk
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Also I'm not even in my 30s and I'm too tired to be angry

torpid sundial
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probably want at least 60% crowd control I think

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🙂

finite carbon
# torpid sundial uh..

It affects stagger values (which I think affects the chance to electrocute enemies) so yeah, does kinda matter

torpid sundial
slate hawk
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And your hoard clear

torpid sundial
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Do I care too much about finesse

sage girder
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What do you guys like using for blessings on the shock maul?

torpid sundial
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5% attack speed

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hmm

thick kestrel
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oooh, I do need to look into the shock mauls....

slate hawk
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Yes it increases your attack speed

sage girder
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im defintately using the stun on block one if i ever get it

torpid sundial
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bleugh

thick kestrel
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we can get some proper arbeties cosplay going :>

unreal bone
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CHAT

torpid sundial
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My goooold

finite carbon
unreal bone
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FARTSHART FUCKED THE NEW HELMET

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I STG BRO

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THEY HAD A GOOD THING

last parcel
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PRIDE

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ARROGANCE

unreal bone
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They had a perfect helmet

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and were like

finite carbon
unreal bone
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what if we made 75% of it CAT construction vehicle yellow

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New vs old

merry gale
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that's the mini accurate enforcer color scheme

slate hawk
# unreal bone

That is just screaming "I want to be shot in the face"

torpid sundial
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ok good enough I'll take it

unreal bone
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to now only being able to combine with the set it comes with

unreal bone
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Literally reduced fashion possibilities now.

somber axle
# slate hawk

I don't really know breakpoints on the Plasma so I can't comment on perks but I have some info on blessings at least! I know Numbers Cat considers Blaze Away to be bad and not worth using because with his set up you don't end up needing Blaze Away to hit breakpoints at all and it only translates into extra boss damage. I believe he uses Gloryhunter for the better sustain instead. But I think your stopping power is below what he recommends for hitting the 1HKO breakpoint on Dreg Gunners using Focus Target + Redirect Target so Blaze Away would surprisingly help you hit and maintain that breakpoint if you had it but the good news is that after Summer the itemization update will get rid of locks and let you change Volatile

Volatile is awkward for most Plasma Vets because the meta is uncharged shots only and charged shots don't really help much on breakpoints/ammo efficiency (3 uncharged shots vs 1 charged shot is the same ammo spent and surprisingly both are the number of shots you need to kill a Crusher with Plasma but spamming uncharged shots will stagger the Crusher to keep them from striking while charging a shot leaves a Crusher able to attack during the charge up, etc.)

Also Fold Shovel is really good with Thrust and +25% Carapace perk to get the 1HKO Crusher breakpoint on folded strike but since that's very risky trying to fold -> charge heavy to 3 Thrust stacks -> strike Crusher and let animation play for kill most people use Uncanny Strike and just slap them for a fast 3HKO instead to stay mobile while hitting. But then I use the Mk VII Fold Shovel so idk about the Mk III and how it differs

unreal bone
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And since it takes 6 months per content update, fashion is all we have to sustain ourselves

thick kestrel
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huh... an aside.... it might have been me mis-seeing during the mission but the Boomstick appeared to be staggering/interupting a plague orgryn when I managed to land a solid hit

somber axle
thick kestrel
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don't suppose someone else might be able to confirm? because if the boomstick can act as a monstrosity interupt that's some GOOD tech

unreal bone
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It went from having so many combination possibilities.

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To now nothing.

finite carbon
unreal bone
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There is basically no other set with that color of yellow

somber axle
thick kestrel
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I... don't know?

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maybe?

slate hawk
last parcel
thick kestrel
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it was a messy fight but I didn't see someone else hit it with a grenade

finite carbon
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What blessings were you running?

somber axle
thick kestrel
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deathspitter/speedload on a melee Vet loadout.

I'm genuinely unsure... but if it did...

somber axle
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Idk the moveset of the Mk III Fold Shovel

flat crypt
slate hawk
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Also is it possible to do the video linking thing To a different channel or is that A PC only thing?

thick kestrel
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more science needed and I lack the ability to spawn monstrosities in the psykanium to make sure...

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slate hawk
coral willow
#

i swear

slate hawk
coral willow
#

this reminds me of someone

thick kestrel
#

don't suppose someone more build-fu than myself could experiment?

because if you can stop a charging ogryn with a double barrel to the face or make a BoN spit someone out...

I'm sure I must have mis-seen

coral willow
#

but i dont know who

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thick kestrel
#

possibly a VoC vet which I missed doing the shout mid fight

slate hawk
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slate hawk
last parcel
#

oh that still works

slate hawk
#

@somber axle pain

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I loaded up into a quick play with botz dead and my health in the current predicament that it was in

#

Auric T4

somber axle
#

Auric T4 is a place I don't go but it looks funny LMFAO

#

I usually do Auric Damnation quickplay only

#

sometimes Maelstroms

#

Auric Heresy feels like the place where people testing the waters on Aurics after running Standard Heresy/Standard Damnation go

woeful ibex
#

you got the Anastasia drip

coral willow
#

i never watched that show whatever that is lolz

somber axle
#

but also yeah I watched the vid and that magic pixel sniper across the map (likely also behind cover too) at the very end is why I like taking my Lasguns for Lights Out and use Exe Stance + squad highlight to show everyone where all the specials/elites are

#

but good solo clutch!

#

the new flashlights from this update look really nice

unreal bone
#

I'm sorry man, but these sets would've been infinitely cooler if they didn't put all that yellow in them.

slate hawk
#

Also later that match somebody agroed a demo host on purpose and then immediately left just for the demon host the agro on to mestaregryn

#

I fucking hate people sometimes lmao

unreal bone
#

I had SO many outfits planned out

#

using those pieces when they were originally BLACK

#

now they are yellow and navy blue

slate hawk
somber axle
unreal bone
slate hawk
#

New slop

unreal bone
#

They had a good thing

#

back when they were black, because then you could mix and match a lot of the pre-existing armor pieces.

slate hawk
#

And still yet to see a Psyker skin I want

unreal bone
#

make ur outfit look unique

slate hawk
unreal bone
#

They changed the black one into these yellow ones.

#

It's the same outfit in the code now changed.

slate hawk
#

Oh

unreal bone
#

Yeah

slate hawk
#

Well damn

unreal bone
#

They literally already designed them to be black

#

and then said you know what? This is too good

#

lets fuck it up

coral willow
somber axle
#

probably to match the figures better for tabletop

unreal bone
#

It's an actual downgrade imo sorry.

#

Idc if it matches some plastic figures

#

(that sounds mean about the figures lol I just wish they were still made out of metal like the ones I have)

coral willow
#

thatsaid yeah sad that no black only shit

#

would be real scary

unreal bone
#

It isn't about black being scarier or cooler

#

it's mostly for me, the fact that I could buy the black outfit

#

and I could mix and match it with SO many pre-existing black pieces.

twin cipher
#

I’m assuming I should just swap perks and leave it alone till itemization drops?

unreal bone
#

And tbh bro?

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The helmet sticks out like a sore thumb for the veteran one.

#

The sides of the helmet are like JET BLACK

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and nothing else on the set is

somber axle
#

it will be fine

coral willow
#

this is peak warhammer lmfao

weak ermine
#

its look really weird couldn't they just give us lorewise cosmetic armor instead of those lame one

coral willow
#

also this is black also

coral willow
#

i wish it was accruate instead of the half-arsed one we getting rn

unreal bone
#

Yeah no

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I also agree with that

#

that mini is cool

#

our outfit is like..

#

@_@

twin cipher
#

@somber axle I see didn’t wana get rid of the picture since it’s so high especially since it’ll just auto go into my library when the update drops

coral willow
#

fatshark ruining everyone's day by implementing something, half-arsed and making everyone mad

twin cipher
#

Is it really such a bad blessing?

coral willow
#

unfortunately its metal.

#

krieg was better

thick kestrel
#

I always find myself going back to the original catachan cosmetic personally >_>

weak ermine
#

if someone bought this hmm

somber axle
coral willow
#

lmao

#

this

twin cipher
#

I see ok, also Can’t choose between flak or carapace for the perk

coral willow
#

it was funnnnnnnnnny

twin cipher
#

I’m assuming flak? Since it’s more common

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But then again they’re typically farther aren’t they like the gunners?

coral willow
unreal bone
twin cipher
#

Ok ty

unreal bone
#

Fartshart has this trend where they do something really cool.

#

Then they decide to fuck it up after finishing it.

twin cipher
#

Idk my bp 2-3 hits crusher when I mark em and that’s when it was blue

thick kestrel
#

for a run/gun combat specialist loadout it just holds up really nicely:

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admittedly using a different head piece

#

but that's for sneaky :>

austere pine
#

laugh at this user

somber axle
#

You can easily get 2HKO breakpoint on Crushers with the Boltpistol

coral willow
#

but very neat

somber axle
#

and if you follow a certain talent tree + get Carapace you can get 1HKO

#

lemme share

coral willow
#

i mean

#

dont zarona also 1hko

somber axle
unreal bone
#

Like bro.. The helmet in the new set now barely even matches with the chest.

somber axle
#

Both have pros and cons

coral willow
#

kek

thick kestrel
#

the boltpistol has more "ohshitohshitohshit" panic potential as well :>

somber axle
#

If you're doing Weapon Specialist and slapping poxwalkers to auto-reload between shots you'll still take longer to kill crushers than a Boltpistol 1HKOing them

twin cipher
#

Is collateral a big deal also on bolt pistols? I just got this.

somber axle
#

BUT

#

I should clarify that 1HKO Boltpistol breakpoint is through Exe Stance + Marksman's Focus

twin cipher
#

Ima commisar man

#

Can’t run bp without word of command

somber axle
#

it isn't letting me post my boltpistol for some reason

coral willow
#

sneaky

#

give me a good

somber axle
#

maybe too many pics posted?

coral willow
#

bolter build

#

so i can run around and shoot

somber axle
twin cipher
#

Is the grey I posted any good even tho the collat is 69?

somber axle
#

I'll build you a tree around your preferences

somber axle
twin cipher
#

Oh sick

coral willow
#

also

#

having a

somber axle
#

I haven't tested stagger breakpoints on the Boltpistol yet but so far it can't do the 2 shot shield stagger on Bulwarks that the Boltgun can

twin cipher
#

Ofc I get a 380 one right after I make my 372 gold lmfao

coral willow
#

fucking

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candle on top of a barrel

coral willow
#

is peak warhammer

somber axle
#

use this then

coral willow
#

for bolter? hm

somber axle
#

Longshot is optional for Crusher 1HKO

somber axle
#

I am confused

coral willow
#

big one

somber axle
#

OH THE BIG ONE

#

ignore that talent tree one sec

coral willow
#

i'd say boltpistol for the pistol

somber axle
#

Yeah it's 2:30 am and I'm home after work so my brain is mush

unreal bone
#

This was so much cooler before they changed it.

twin cipher
#

Yooo the candle bolt pistol goes hard

#

Blow that bad boy after a shot 🥴

#

Sorry Slaanesh got to me

slate hawk
coral willow
#

yellow is not quite popular there isnt much to match it

#

smh

somber axle
#

here you go

#

here is what I use for Boltgun

slate hawk
twin cipher
#

Oh man the ogryn suit and matching shield is great

weak ermine
#

i think this is worth to get

somber axle
last parcel
#

and ve must deal vit it

austere pine
#

what do we do for perks for the bolt pistol?

last parcel
#

elite + maniac

austere pine
#

got these btw

twin cipher
#

Man I wish they’d give us a commisar hate with a bionic eye

#

Really makes me not wana get the current ones knowing they might some day

slate hawk
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austere pine
#

god i wish it worked that way

austere pine
austere pine
#

i know like 3 people that, if i hadn't found out what i did, i'd have nver guessed were into feet

slate hawk
#

Finally somebody not immediately saying my character looks like Lord far quad from shrek

pulsar ridge
#

A dog-taming maul with matching blessings: would you buy it?

last parcel
#

erotophonophile gang rise up

coral willow
#

no much else.

#

you want HV/SC/LR

austere pine
coral willow
#

high volt basically adds 25% damage for subsequent attacks, Scullcrusher is skullcrusher, and the parry shit is p useful

austere pine
#

you a zealot player also by any chance backup?

somber axle
twin cipher
#

The blessing that gives cleave on crit looks nasty too

#

For hordes at least

slate hawk
somber axle
#

I like it

#

I maybe splurged more than I should have getting the weapon skins too LMFAO

#

but I don't feel too bad about throwing the cash at Fatshark

#

I feel the update definitely deserves a bit of goodwill

austere pine
#

am i stupid or did they swap the colors of headshot damage and crit damage in the meat grinder?

austere pine
somber axle
#

The axe looks AMAZING

coral willow
austere pine
#

what do we take for blessings on the bolt pistol?

#

surely surgical sucks

#

that or headhunter

last parcel
#

weapon customization users on their way to make the most beautiful weapons mankind has ever seen chadgryn

austere pine
#

i literally want to vomit from looking at that

austere pine
#

bro think he

oak gorge
#

weapon customization users mentioning it whenever someone posts a pic of in-game drip

coral willow
#

weapon customization users crashing every 2 games:

austere pine
#

deserved tbh

finite carbon
last parcel
austere pine
#

top mounter crossbow is not as bad

coral willow
austere pine
#

and the bottom mounter... what

#

something

#

isn't bad either

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finite carbon
coral willow
#

shoved inside*

somber axle
#

the shotgun is pretty sick too

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flat crypt
austere pine
somber axle
#

The Revolver is also so sexy

last parcel
#

bad to the bone riff

last parcel
#

double bad to the bone riff

austere pine
#

MY GIF SPAM IS BEING RESTRICTED BROTHERS AND SISTERS

#

they find my memes distasteful

last parcel
#

THE CENSORS

#

KILL THEM

somber axle
austere pine
#

they didn't like me asking if i was rarted a bit ago either

somber axle
#

Enforcers are taking over the Mourningstar LMFAO

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somber axle
#

LMFAO

austere pine
#

now the question is

#

do i spare 8€ to buy myself drip

last parcel
#

no

#

rob someone

austere pine
#

can't i have a forever trip to the US planned

last parcel
#

ok then shoot them

coral willow
last parcel
#

and then sue them

coral willow
#

welp

#

my first shotgun

austere pine
#

you can't fucking mean to tell me you got a 380 already

#

you've got to be joking

last parcel
#

now put lacerate on it

coral willow
last parcel
#

oh how horrible

#

how did you wait so long

austere pine
#

dis good?

#

also dis

coral willow
austere pine
#

how bout dis

coral willow
#

spent about 0.8M on a

#

saul

#

i think

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austere pine
#

cuz like

#

the damage doesn't really change much

#

especially on a weapon that fires this fast

coral willow
#

it loses 5 damage

#

with a weapon that has high RPM it does matter

#

but doesnt matter much

pallid jetty
#

yeah

#

forgor im not red

last parcel
#

sunburn

sharp epoch
#

i feel like vets pretty bad rn if you dont run shout or plasma/columnus/revolver

austere pine
#

get this man on meta detox

last parcel
#

bro never felt the sweet touch of executioner’s stance shredder autopistol

pallid jetty
bitter turtle
#

Vet literally was unchanged

#

Except buffs

coral willow
#

local metaslave decides that everything aside from op is bad

bitter turtle
#

To some of the shittier guns

coral willow
#

smart move by vet fanboys

bitter turtle
#

No I mean what changed fornthem yo have the opinions

#

To have*

sharp epoch
#

i was using a shotgun and had no ammo like the whole run

bitter turtle
#

Cause there was no nerfs this patch

sharp epoch
#

and thats using melee 80% of the time

fresh mango
#

emp drops never change

bitter turtle
#

That's unironically a git gud moment

#

I use agri shotty in AM

#

No ammo issues

fresh mango
#

I just used a double barrel in AM and had no ammo issues

bitter turtle
#

Unless ur using double barrel idk how economy is on that

#

Indont have one yet

fresh mango
#

Its pretty good

sharp epoch
#

It was lawbringer, db might have good ammo efficiency

fresh mango
#

Even without scav you only get low on ammo if you over use it

sharp epoch
#

it was without scav

fresh mango
#

what do yall usually run double barrel for perks?

bitter turtle
#

Well

sharp epoch
#

scattershot fs

bitter turtle
#

Shotguns prefer having surv

#

But

fresh mango
#

I know you dont have one lol

bitter turtle
#

If ur literally

fresh mango
#

and thats blessings

bitter turtle
#

On your scoreboard

sharp epoch
#

SCATTERSHOT AND MANSFOPEPR

bitter turtle
#

80 percent of your dmg is melee

fresh mango
#

i need PERKS

bitter turtle
#

And you are running out of ammo

#

That just means u are missing

sharp epoch
#

i got 100% accuracy its a shotgun

bitter turtle
#

Not even pre buff recon is that bad on ammo:dmg

#

Sure but are you actually 1 tapping gunners

fresh mango
#

See iuse a run and gun playstyle so im constantly in the enemys face dumping shells into their skulls

#

I am

bitter turtle
#

Or are you "hitting" but only hitting half your pellets

sharp epoch
#

lawbringer dont one tap gunners

#

also just run flak maniac

coral willow
sharp epoch
#

for perk

coral willow
#

nice.

fresh mango
#

very happy with this

coral willow
#

also

#

maniac seems redundant

fresh mango
#

Nah its not

#

Trust

sharp epoch
#

SCATTERSHOT MANSTOPPED

coral willow
#

does it oneshot muties with it cause i remember shotgun doing 150% damage on a close range maniac.

fresh mango
#

LOOK i prefer deathsplitter

#

Its inconnsistent from my personal experience

sharp epoch
#

but it wont proc if u do the alt fire

fresh mango
#

I dont use the alt fire all the time

coral willow
#

why would it not proc?

fresh mango
#

also what?

bitter turtle
coral willow
sharp epoch
#

bro i mean at the ranges it matters

bitter turtle
#

it can do it up to 15m

coral willow
#

possibly because i am playing as zealot

#

and no ranged talents

bitter turtle
#

very reliably

#

at 15m+ it becomes rng

#

but still possible

sharp epoch
#

also ur using that mark thingy

coral willow
sharp epoch
#

and the crit thingy

fresh mango
#

oh test your metal is live?

#

Very good

fierce steeple
#

what blessings for shock maul

#

Bonk stick needs upgrading

frank ocean
#

Still just normal materials as rewards which is slightly disappointing

coral willow
#

dont consider other stuff

bitter turtle
fierce steeple
bitter turtle
#

they swapped the colors around this patch for whatever reason

#

for crit/weakspot

coral willow
#

skullcrusher

bitter turtle
#

the hp bar mod didnt swap

#

so now u see both colors

coral willow
#

and lightning reflexes

junior needle
#

So uh

bitter turtle
#

gyazo replay does not capture long enough but i did it 3 times in a row there

fresh mango
bitter turtle
#

ur gun or ur aim just sucks

frank ocean
#

I mean I still want it

junior needle
#

Do you just not get credit from the event without using those weapons yourself?

#

Because I have zero credit and people in my games have definitely used them

sharp epoch
#

if i rmember

bitter turtle
#

or your aim sucks

#

like i said

frank ocean
sharp epoch
#

i also dont use deadshot on a shotgun

bitter turtle
#

its

frank ocean
#

During the Skulls event the kills were much higher

bitter turtle
bitter turtle
#

the colors swapped this patch

#

for whatever reason

junior needle
#

The skulls event was headshots, this is elite/special kills

#

Massive difference in availability

sharp epoch
#

it yellow it crit

bitter turtle
#

u are wrong

#

wsec

#

let me show you

#

i turned off hpbar mod

#

the orange number is higher than the yellow number

#

are u telling me critting makes you do less dmg?

coral willow
#

literally why

#

the HP bar vanila has been bugged

#

and it swapped headshot/crit damage

#

cause

#

idk

#

fatshark

#

so the HP bar mod(on the top) is reliable

junior needle
#

Thanks fatshark

coral willow
#

wait

#

gloryhunter is 30% on boltol?

#

might use that

#

hm

#

cause its measily 16% on bolter

shell ginkgo
sharp epoch
junior needle
bitter turtle
#

just accept that lawbringer can 1tap gunners lol

#

and that its a skill/gear issue that you cant

junior needle
#

I'm reminded of why I have my steam review left as negative

#

I'd spend much more money crafting a weapon to do the event than I'd get from the event

last parcel
#

thoughts for boltpistol build

slate hawk
#

Eventually

somber axle
# junior needle

did you spend a full year walking under ladders, breaking glass and having black cat parades pass your house? geez

#

with luck like that your birthday could be on Friday the 13th and I wouldn't be surprised

last parcel
#

clown award

somber axle
#

also the Enforcer helmet has a REALLY cool voice effect

#

it's exactly the one you think it is

fierce steeple
#

Which shock maul is better

coral willow
somber axle
#

same one Scion helmet and the recent Kasrkin helmet share

coral willow
junior needle
#

Seems to be a clear winner

bitter turtle
#

I wish the krieg hat had a better voice thing

#

i dont even notice it

#

😔

coral willow
#

new

#

ogryn krieg hat thing

#

cause it looked funny

bitter turtle
#

only thing im thinking of buying maybe is one of the weapon skins

#

but eh idk

coral willow
#

boltpistol

#

god

somber axle
coral willow
#

the candel on top of the barrel

#

its

somber axle
#

the axe skin is nice if you like Rashad

coral willow
#

s e x y

bitter turtle
#

boltpistol is the one iw as thinking of

#

except

#

i dont have a remotely decent one yet

coral willow
#

i bought it

#

even though i'll probably go back to using

bitter turtle
#

and i have a godroll rashad but i actually dont play it much

#

so that is a waste of money

#

for me

coral willow
#

weapon customization

bitter turtle
#

yeah

#

i usually just customize everything off anyway lul

#

keeps the color though ig

coral willow
#

ye

#

its nice

bitter turtle
#

i got the edgy black laspistol for that reason

#

tbh

junior needle
#

So the double barrel seems to do more than double the damage on a double shot

somber axle
#

The black laspistol skin is SEXY

last parcel
#

sex bomb

somber axle
#

I can't believe I was talking earlier about Darktide having good stability/performance on launch for this update

#

I jinxed myself

#

this is the second crash tonight

last parcel
#

you have angered the machine spirit

somber axle
#

The machine spirit wants me to go to bed

last parcel
#

perform percussive maintenance

#

beat it with the bed frame

junior needle
#

My hatred for the obesefish is boundless

winter grove
#

By changing perks

junior needle
#

No clue what's considered good on it atm, I was looking for scattershot though

#

Which I have at t3 now

#

But I'd have to craft it on

bitter turtle
#

i wanna try that

#

reload speed blessing onit

#

sounds funny

somber axle
#

Deathspitter is good too

#

You're probably fine swapping the perks

#

That one can work

#

stealing this meme from driptide because Vet chat deserves to see it too

last parcel
#

both barrels + speedload + wep spec chadgryn

frank ocean
#

The Doom super shotgun experience lol

junior needle
#

Moving from 7m to 8m means I can't one shot dreg gunners with the double shot anymore

#

Even with anoint in blood and 10% elite

somber axle
#

Yeah that's normal

junior needle
#

I hate the fat shark

somber axle
#

The damage falloff at range is silly but it makes things explode in close range

last parcel
#

it’s the grenade gauntlet special attack chadgryn

junior needle
#

Zealot doesn't have rending access either

wary galleon
#

why do people still bind ping to lmb

#

its so fucking obnoxious

inland orchid
#

I bound mine to T cuz I’m too used to verm 2 gaming KEKW_ogryn

last parcel
#

f8 gang wya

wary galleon
#

just stop spamming it like its supposed to make a difference other then give me an anurysm

#

fucking hell

junior needle
#

Already spent more resources than the whole event would give me

last parcel
#

thank you sweden

austere pine
#

saveable

junior needle
#

The fact that you specifically need to use it is insulting

austere pine
#

we'll see what hadron gives me

vale ledge
#

Fellas. . .

#

Rate the maul...

austere pine
#

after an ad break (sleep)

austere pine
#

shocking, even

runic topaz
#

Shocking

#

Fuck

vale ledge
#

Also

#

Enforcer drip goes hard-

junior needle
#

There's a guy in this game

#

with a mk3 power sword

#

He's taking brutal and slaughtr

vale ledge
#

(Not using it just asking in general)

inland orchid
#

I’ve seen people like the “enemies electrified take XX% more damage” blessing but I haven’t gotten it on my shock maul yet Sitgryn