#veteran-class
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the main problem with dreg rager rn is that they attack incredibly fast
Do you use Deadshot or are you someone silly relying entirely on base weapon crit chance, the 5% crit chance talent node and a 5% crit chance perk? Because I can guarantee you I'd out DPS you any day of the week using my Headhunter and while doing better damage I'll use less ammo too
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I dont use deadshot cause I'd rather not rely on a gimmick and use toughness curios instead
It's easy to argue against maths. Especially when I've played with Recons enough to know the numbers games on them
scab ragers are problematic for a different reason
they have so much mass they just block ur cleave
Brother I have too, what kind of argument is that
whereas dreg ragers combo stupidly fast
Bro are you serious right now? What's your talent tree and Recon look like? Infernus without Deadshot or Headhunter?? If you're missing Shock Trooper too I'm going to laugh
WHAT IS THAT TEXT I NEED IT
Lemme show you something real quick. Then I challenge you to do the same with whatever you do
btw they buffed infernus
Take your set up, go to the Psykanium
I love this update so, so much
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I get to rending strikes, toughness node on right, and elite damage on left
They did? Didn’t they reduce max stacks
Post your talent tree as a screenshot
I think infernus is better than dum dum now
i wrote a script to randomly generate it so yours may be different
https://github.com/Backup158/DarktideBetterDescriptionsUwuify
That's high praise coming from you. I need to check Infernus real quick in the patch notes
Is there a tool to simulate talent build? Im at work
they unified infernus between lasgun patterns, no more split
which means all of them get:
3/4 stacks of burn on ranged crit (max 9/12 stacks)
recon is 2 crit string
Thanks Backup!

But yeah go to that link and click Vet
so in 1 crit proc u apply 8 stacks of burn
it will let you choose your talents
an integer 
Also where’s the finnish flag from ur bio, im gonna get violent
previously recon was 2 burn stack per crit, max 10/12 stacks
now it's 3/4 burn stack per crit, max 9/12 stacks
go pass out in your shower/restroom floor thing
u get more stacks per crit and therefore reach max stacks faster
even on 7a I'd rate infernus over dum dum now
woot, fellow finns here? O_o
well, maybe equal for 7a
This is a Recon Mk VId doing 3600 DPS against a Crusher. It has spectacular TTK/DPS on other elites/specials too. It used 10 ammo in this recording. Through testing I was able to get that ammo cost down to 5 ammo spent
6d is 100% infernus better
it's too late
But u know, Torille! kun joku mainitsee suomen jossain
I still don't think infernus is that worth taking for laspistols tho
I identify as a Mexican now
it's just good on recon
i'm already looking up finland anthromorphized r34
laspistol still gets more value out of dum dum + ghost, simply the best
But also TORILLE!
infantry lasguns don't have blessing slot to spare for infernus
what marketplace
and helbore straight up doesn't care abt infernus
The funny part about that recording? Survivalist Aura refunds 9 ammo on my 50% ammo stat Recon Mk VId. Keep in mind that Survivalist Aura restores ammo based on total reserve %. Which means a higher reserve ammo is more ammo restored each time Survivalist Aura procs. This is worst case scenario for a Recon Mk VId restoring ammo. Even still restoring 9 ammo on a Crusher kill while only using 5 ammo means going ammo positive on a Crusher kill. 10 ammo means you spent 1 ammo killing the Crusher
also boltpistol is 0.001 ranged cleave, meaning it can't cleave anything
but the explosion does stagger
and it has very good initial hipfire accuracy (not recoil)
the DB shotgun's quick bash (uncharged special) for some reason has 6.5 cleave (more than the shots themselves)
wait numbers cat
what does this mean
it looks like a nerf
but you said it was buffed
this is a bit confusing but essentially
am I illiterate today
pre-patch
HB/iLas, laspistol and recon had different infernus values
pre-patch, HB/iLas was 4/crit, max 10-12 stacks
laspistol was 3/crit, forgot how many max stack (not the same as others)
and recon was 2/crit, max 10/12 stacks
now it's unified as 3-4 per crit, max 9-12 stacks


this doesn't really change it for HB/iLas
So Infernus cap is the same but it stacks better on Recons
because nobody uses it on those guns anyway
Does this mean with a crit string it applies 4 stacks per crit for a total 8 stacks just from a SINGLE crit??
since like
all Recons have a crit string of 2
for laspistol it's arguable, I think scrier's gaze + infernus + dum dum + empathic evasion + 5% crit aura + 5% crit node is a disgusting combo
since psyker has empathic evasion to not necessarily need ghost
dum dum also boosts infernus' DOT, and stacks from infernus' DOT
no reason not to go turbo dmg on gun psyker for that
the main buff is for recon
take example, infernus IV
pre-patch, 2/crit to max 12 stacks
post-patch, 4/crit to max 12 stacks
2-string on crit
so u get 8 stacks of burn from crit proc once
and ur gonna crit a ton anyways
even on 7a with the lowest firerate (3 cleave)
so uhm what do u guys thunk about itemization rework?
getting to shoot 8~12 stacks of burn on top of base dmg through low mass enemies
seems pretty good to me
That does sound very nice
yarp, looks promising
no more hadron bricking good bases and full control over perks/blessings
it's much better than whatever we have rn, and it does give much lower RNG in terms of progression
only "downside" is you'll need to run a weaker version of a weapon for a bit while you level it up
u can grind to basically fix bad rolls with it
good thing i gambled to get a variety of weapons with good stats and blessings already
and honestly that just feels like a reasonable way to have some people eat some humble pie and others to not feel utterly outclassed because they didn't get lucky
try to fill hadron's blessing stickerbook before the update rolls
you get an oppertunity to learn a lot by not using perfect weapons all the time, worth doing
that's the only thing that'll give u a headstart in the new mastery unlocks
great for new players
yep!
The first few days after the customization update are going to be wild LMFAO
and particularly the ability to switch and adapt the "pattern" of your weapon is a HUGE touch
itemization + discount on steam = big playerbase jump hopefully
idk how that part works actually
nice ammo count
time to make ppl forget about middivers 2
does it mean like, u can convert ur antax roll into a rashad? or smth else
I might be misunderstanding, but the implication I got was that you could toggle the "mode" of the weapon
it was probably higher the day of the Secrets of the Machine God drop
servers were kinda fucked on day 1 tho
I'm not gonna speculate until they drop more info
were they? I got in ok
very fair, still optimistic
server was pretty bad day1
how many times have we seen a strong melk roll but it's the wrong version of the gun?
and also everybody & their mother was using boltpistol
but none of them could hit their shots

^^
just had to call me out like that
I remember playing 2 matches on the first day and I had fun without any stability issues but idk I only got to play for an hour so that's not a good sample size
wait, stupid question
for the double barrel how do you fire both barrels at once? i could only test for a few minutes
brace the gun 🙂
people still can't hit their shots tbh
it's why most of them stopped using boltpistol
LMFAO
also, i'm guessing that the double barrel is best on vet for reload bonuses, right?
I've switched from assault crosshair to rapid fire crosshair
hipfire = single shot, braced fire: double shot
it's helped a lot
I haven't played with the new crosshairs yet so I'm still using all the defaults LOL
just rolled this on my vet
not the best stat distribution but ig nothing itemization can't fix later
any important perks I should switch out for, or is flak/maniac good for this guy
i feel like that's backwards of how i'd prefer it ngl.
I get the vibe that the bolt-pistol is going to be kind of like how we currently use the combat shot-guns? more precise than you think, lots of kick but pretty good at taking out priority targets.
This is fine
oh yeah, doesn't the bolt pistol have a lot of blessings that effect explosions? what are good ones that make the kaboom
Low SP could be problematic
btw what blessings/buffs for the bolt pistol
None of the good ones interact with the kaboom
Because the kaboom is mainly there for stagger
i got some funky ones so far but i dont think they are very helpful
what if i want a double kaboom blessing roll for shits and giggles
It’s hard to say no to surgical/point blank + DA
I am intrigued by the proximity shell blessing for the bolt pistol though... that could have some interesting synergy with the bleed blessing
U switch to ogryn and equip grenadier gauntlet/rumbler
would full bore be what we want on the boomstick thinking on it? it has a MUCH more traditional videogame weapon spread so getting every pellet on target might be tricker than with the combat shotties?
i wonder if u get get bonus dmg if u do the special + m1 combo on bolt pistol?
rapid fire crosshair
no
Doesn't Lethal Proximity boom + Execution increased 20% damage to staggered targets combo well?
Just not as good as like
DA/Surg
the problem is that this is a 1 tap breakpoint gun
If the boom applied the bleed it would be funny for horde control LMFAO
but sadly it doesn't
and the +20% dmg only really maybe helps vs mauler
no bleed and boom memes on boltpistol
I don't think it even changes rager breakpoint if u have the right perks
wait... boomstick with manstopper and flechette... combat specialist to get the 100% crit...
it's got a VERY nice spread...
not needed
mainly because range is shit
and horrible cleave
flechette also doesn't do much without rending
well fair... but still... rip and tear :>
and ur not gonna apply 12 bleed fast on a gun that reloads more often than it shoots
more realistically... I'm thinking deathspitter/both barrels might be a solid plan?
equip Both Barrels for custom reload animation
yes that blessing gives u a unique reload animation
Yeah
therefore it's automatically the best blessing available
so "an enemy" counts even just a single poxwalker, right?
hrm... so the bonus damage blessings do appear to be deathspitter and full bore?
just on the quick playabout it does seem like fullbore might not be as easy to trigger than on other shotguns
purely because of the wide spread
hrm... we do have the new bonus damage on run and gun now...
that might be easier to get activated
and, lets be fair, you're going to be running things down a lot with the boomstick ^^
none of them are particularly worth it
utility blessings are more useful for this gun
deathspitter is like, ok ig
but full bore is no
mhmm... for utility it's got... T-barrage, speedload, both barrels and hit & run?
yeah... I can see that
if u had to run dmg I'd prob go BB + DS
hrm... I guess I might as well throw some resources at it and see what hadron provides as a starting platform
ok... I decided to just go with this one despite the terrible mobility but I'm... not mad?
for a first try I could certainly get worse ^^
so try to get both barrels to replace speedload... swap specialists for a more direct damage probably?
Speedload is fine too
true, but you've tempted me with the special animation :>
I think
Deathspitter/Hit & run + Both barrels/speedload
man stopper and hit 'n' run is also good combo since you will most likely use Weapon Specialist with it
hrm... do I want flak or Maniac to go with Elite damage...
Flak
Mauler 1 shot
ooooh

from my testing flak break point are easier to reach
yeah that'll do :>
though both scab and tox flamers are hard to 1hk
Helps extend range a little
only close headshot can 1hk them
And gives easier reaper 1 shot
Maniac for flamer?
It’s mostly due to range falloff
This gun has way too short range
yeah
also going for bodyshots is better for most ranges
only close range is good for headshots
I love the Boltpistol but my aim with it still sucks LMFAO

With Exe Stance + Marksman's Focus and some rending it can very comfortably 1HKO Crushers
but wow
I'm relying a lot on Camo to get and keep 10 stacks
I need to improve my aim
Real shit??
Can you post a video
The funny part is that the regular Boltgun can't 1HKO Crushers with this talent set up
Yeah one sec
xd
one
Times up
beat him up
mods
Thats actually insane
beat the honk out of the clown
I can share the talent tree set up I use to do it too
Boltpistol weirdly benefits a lot from rending to achieve 1HKO on Crushers
If it can one tap crushers id assume its pretty good
Probably hard to keep marksman stacks up though even with good aim
depends on if you consider Exe Stance or Marksman's Focus a meme
if you think they're both legitimate then no, but if you think they're goofy then yes
You can swap The Bigger They Are off Exe Stance into Demo Team if you want nade regen
I just don't use grenades enough to care LOL
And I'd rather have the refresh from 1 tapping Crushers
Nah Camo stance carries that
It's surprisingly easy to build and keep 10 stacks with Camo
I dont like standing still hurumph
Oh also to clarify
That recording was an old set up testing 1HKO and used Close Quarters Kill Zone for the breakpoint
after more clown science testing
kid named headshotting someone every 6 seconds
I discovered that it was unnecessary
You really only need For the Emperor, Marksman, 10 stack Marksman's Focus, Exe Stance, Bring It Down and Rending Strikes/Chink in their Armour with +Carapace perk
which sounds like a weird list to follow the word "only"
but I didn't have to do weird Redirect Fire shenanigans, didn't use Fire Team and didn't need Close Quarters Kill Zone
so it felt like an easier 1HKO to maintain
You don't even need Longshot
Also the Boltpistol default speed reload at 67% reload stat is fast enough to reload and maintain Exe Stance without Tactical Reload or Volley Adept
so I didn't feel the need to get any further reload speed
days ago I thought the extra reload was 100% necessary but after more practice I realise I was just inexperienced LOL
OH ALSO
important to note that the 10% extra rending from Chink in their Armour and the finesse power from Marksman's Focus is what makes the 1HKO achievable on the Boltpistol
I tried hitting 1HKO Crusher with Focus Target and even with 8 stack my Boltpistol failed to hit 1HKO
it comes REALLY close though
10% elite perk would push it over
The suppression hurts on Boltpistol so either use Exe Stance for suppression immunity or run Determined because you'll struggle to consistently land shots down range with the Boltpistol's wonky sights especially when suppression is shaking your gun too
just always queue with an elite damage aura psyker 
Idk how you retain this much information. I have enough to make a semi decent build and thats it
I do a lot of clown science
just be sillier
But then you have to play with a psyker
I like experimenting in the Psykanium for breakpoints
Exe Stance's only real purpose is to reduce talent tree investment to hit and maintain breakpoints or hit breakpoints builds otherwise can't when running Voice of Command or Infiltrate (even with Surprise Attack)
Wall hacks if you run plasma
Like a Helbore Mk II NEEDS Maniac perk to 1HKO both Flamers and Unarmoured perk to 1HKO Dreg Gunners but if you run Exe Stance + Focus Target with Redirect Fire you suddenly can ignore both of those perks because you consistently meet them
Then you can grab Carapace as a perk and double down on Crusher killing
Without Exe Stance and without Carapace perk a Helbore Mk II requires anywhere from 5-7 shots depending on the rest of your talent tree and your Damage/Stopping Power stats
that's a LOT
with Exe Stance and Carapace perk you drop that down to 2-3 shots
imagine
a gun that fires as fast as the Helbore Mk II with Weight of Fire and Charge stat at 75%+ being able to kill a Crusher for virtually free using Surgical + Deadshot to get 100% crit chance on each shot and making those shots free with Shock Trooper
You go ammo positive and your TTK is silly
If you get a combat stim you can even 1HKO Crushers with the Helbore Mk II using Exe Stance
And people say helbore is bad
The breakpoints you can achieve with the Helbore Mk II and Exe Stance are actually insane
the difference between non-Exe Stance Helbore Mk II and a Helbore Mk II using Exe Stance are massive
The difference is me dead on the ground 
Exe Stance is really niche and you probably shouldn't use it unless you're using it SPECIFICALLY to hit breakpoints and alleviate talent tax pressure elsewhere
otherwise Voice of Command and Infiltrate will get much better use
I'd have the double check when I dislike losing like 40 toughness because on how my Build is when doing executioner stance
What does your talent tree set up look like? 
Pretty based
I can't tell you what my executioner stance build Is because I am currently at work
But this is my typical build
I jokingly say based because I don't use any keystones
I'm surprised at no keystone but I also used to run no keystone a long time ago until Numbers Cat told me to start using keystones
They all provide a LOT of value
but that value for each keystone is dependant on your weapon tbh
Is this for Helbore?
When the double barrel shock gets fixed I think I will definitely give the weapon specialist Keystone a good run
And I am a plasma gun user
I like my point click adventure game
Weapon Specialist Keystone is the best keystone to pair with Double Barrel Shotgun at the moment

Did you see the talent tree set up Numbers Cat posted earlier for when he uses Plasma?
@shadow aurora If you don't like it that much just go ahead and block me I'm sick and tired of all that negative bullshit
I have not
?
Here it is!
I was also not aware that there were more than one cat lol
Sorry man i was joking didn't know itd upset you that much
Vet chat has a lot of people with either "Cat" in the name or pfps of cats
I call Numbers Cat that name because their discord name here is just numbers and their pfp is a cat and idk what else to call them (and they didn't correct me when I started referring to them as Numbers Cat) so that became the name I use for them
Soldier 69 also has a cat pfp
we are not the only cats
there are more
My apologies For the overreaction, it's just tired of hearing "plasma gun user ew" you know?
Fair enough. The joke is definitely overdone
Also! Silver Phantom check with Numbers Cat on the stats necessary to hit the right breakpoints because I know Focus Target + Redirect Fire is there specifically for certain breakpoints (Dreg Gunner 1HKO is one of them afaik) but you need certain stats on Damage/Stopping Power to meet them with Focus Target + Redirect Target through the talent tree there
I don't know breakpoints/stat requirements for Plasma because I don't use that weapon or test it much
It still boggles my mind that a drag gunner with no armor is more tanky than a scab gunner with armor
In the old days you ran unarmored to oneshot dreg gunner arms with exestance
Faith is their shield 
yeah... its more that the dregs while less armoured than the scabs are... well... more nurgled...
It's mostly just because most people run Flak/Maniac on their weapons as perks and for balance reasons the Scab Gunner has slightly less HP than the Dreg Gunner putting them at just the right HP level on an armour type people don't tend to get a perk for (unarmoured) to make breakpoints on them awkward LOL
ADM is just bungled as a whole
honestly it's a neat little differentiation
uhhh, whats the diff between the two new shock mauls
I'm quite eager to see how it differs if and or when we see Genestealer cultists turn up and how their surviability differs from the scabs and dregs
lord knows Sefoni is almost outright telling us that there are Genestealers active on Atoma...
Moveset, and I think Agni has a bit more damage output
But primarily moveset. Indignatus has some nice, clean sweeps, but Agni has consistent strikedowns
her little lines in the Psykanium are getting less and less vague...
Just wanted to say that this piece of conversation right here restored some faith in humanity/gaming community in a world filled with trolls and haters ❤️
The emperor protects
i will eat your dog
Also I'm not even in my 30s and I'm too tired to be angry
It affects stagger values (which I think affects the chance to electrocute enemies) so yeah, does kinda matter
And your hoard clear
Do I care too much about finesse
What do you guys like using for blessings on the shock maul?
oooh, I do need to look into the shock mauls....
Yes it increases your attack speed
im defintately using the stun on block one if i ever get it
bleugh
we can get some proper arbeties cosplay going :>
CHAT
My goooold
Weakspot and crit multiplier can go up to 1.15x with 80% finesse I think
Hammerblow and Skullcrusher, though I've mainly been using it on a zealot as a slightly worse crusher
that's the mini accurate enforcer color scheme
That is just screaming "I want to be shot in the face"
ok good enough I'll take it
I don't careeee it went from being able to combine with SO many other sets
to now only being able to combine with the set it comes with
Literally reduced fashion possibilities now.
I don't really know breakpoints on the Plasma so I can't comment on perks but I have some info on blessings at least! I know Numbers Cat considers Blaze Away to be bad and not worth using because with his set up you don't end up needing Blaze Away to hit breakpoints at all and it only translates into extra boss damage. I believe he uses Gloryhunter for the better sustain instead. But I think your stopping power is below what he recommends for hitting the 1HKO breakpoint on Dreg Gunners using Focus Target + Redirect Target so Blaze Away would surprisingly help you hit and maintain that breakpoint if you had it but the good news is that after Summer the itemization update will get rid of locks and let you change Volatile
Volatile is awkward for most Plasma Vets because the meta is uncharged shots only and charged shots don't really help much on breakpoints/ammo efficiency (3 uncharged shots vs 1 charged shot is the same ammo spent and surprisingly both are the number of shots you need to kill a Crusher with Plasma but spamming uncharged shots will stagger the Crusher to keep them from striking while charging a shot leaves a Crusher able to attack during the charge up, etc.)
Also Fold Shovel is really good with Thrust and +25% Carapace perk to get the 1HKO Crusher breakpoint on folded strike but since that's very risky trying to fold -> charge heavy to 3 Thrust stacks -> strike Crusher and let animation play for kill most people use Uncanny Strike and just slap them for a fast 3HKO instead to stay mobile while hitting. But then I use the Mk VII Fold Shovel so idk about the Mk III and how it differs
And since it takes 6 months per content update, fashion is all we have to sustain ourselves
huh... an aside.... it might have been me mis-seeing during the mission but the Boomstick appeared to be staggering/interupting a plague orgryn when I managed to land a solid hit
I actually like the yellow as weird as this sounds
.>
don't suppose someone else might be able to confirm? because if the boomstick can act as a monstrosity interupt that's some GOOD tech
The problem with the yellow, now the helmet will not match with any other set.
It went from having so many combination possibilities.
To now nothing.
I haven't been able to stagger a crusher, and you staggered a monstrosity with it?
There is basically no other set with that color of yellow
Yellow prisoner garb for the funny LOL
but yeah you're right
I like using the mark 3 for the simple reason that I can Spam light attacks for hoard clear
it's >=78 for dmg and stopping power last i checked
and redirect fire is enough to make up for that
it was a messy fight but I didn't see someone else hit it with a grenade
What blessings were you running?
That's good to know thanks!
I like the Mk VII for slapping hordes with heavies but that's fair
deathspitter/speedload on a melee Vet loadout.
I'm genuinely unsure... but if it did...
Idk the moveset of the Mk III Fold Shovel
I don't have one but may I interest you in my neighbour's dog(s)? 🤔
Also is it possible to do the video linking thing To a different channel or is that A PC only thing?
more science needed and I lack the ability to spawn monstrosities in the psykanium to make sure...
Insane if it does though
what kind of video linking are you talking about?
Light attacks genuinely are horizontal
Like if I posted a video in the video channel in the discord but you can link to it in this chat that we currently are in
this reminds me of someone
don't suppose someone more build-fu than myself could experiment?
because if you can stop a charging ogryn with a double barrel to the face or make a BoN spit someone out...
I'm sure I must have mis-seen
but i dont know who
hold to select the message and press copy message link
possibly a VoC vet which I missed doing the shout mid fight
Oh, okay let me test
that'll just give us a link to a channel though, so now that i think about it "copy media link" would probably be better
oh that still works
@somber axle pain
I loaded up into a quick play with botz dead and my health in the current predicament that it was in
Auric T4
Auric T4 is a place I don't go but it looks funny LMFAO
I usually do Auric Damnation quickplay only
sometimes Maelstroms
Auric Heresy feels like the place where people testing the waters on Aurics after running Standard Heresy/Standard Damnation go
i never watched that show whatever that is lolz
but also yeah I watched the vid and that magic pixel sniper across the map (likely also behind cover too) at the very end is why I like taking my Lasguns for Lights Out and use Exe Stance + squad highlight to show everyone where all the specials/elites are
but good solo clutch!
the new flashlights from this update look really nice
I'm sorry man, but these sets would've been infinitely cooler if they didn't put all that yellow in them.
Thank you, The people that joined that lobby didn't know the pain I went through
Also later that match somebody agroed a demo host on purpose and then immediately left just for the demon host the agro on to me
I fucking hate people sometimes lmao
yeah but lore
Is this live? 
Yes sadly.
I had SO many outfits planned out
using those pieces when they were originally BLACK
now they are yellow and navy blue
I was a moron and decided "I'll do quick play for once"
Never again lol
I can buy it now?? I need to check Hallowette's...
Yes if you want.
New slop
fr
They had a good thing
back when they were black, because then you could mix and match a lot of the pre-existing armor pieces.
And still yet to see a Psyker skin I want
make ur outfit look unique
We'll get the black ones in 6 months

There is no black one now.
They changed the black one into these yellow ones.
It's the same outfit in the code now changed.
Oh
Yeah
Well damn
They literally already designed them to be black
and then said you know what? This is too good
lets fuck it up
It's an actual downgrade imo sorry.
Idc if it matches some plastic figures
(that sounds mean about the figures lol I just wish they were still made out of metal like the ones I have)
tbh this game wouldnt exist as is without the minifigs.
thatsaid yeah sad that no black only shit
would be real scary
It isn't about black being scarier or cooler
it's mostly for me, the fact that I could buy the black outfit
and I could mix and match it with SO many pre-existing black pieces.
I’m assuming I should just swap perks and leave it alone till itemization drops?
And tbh bro?
The helmet sticks out like a sore thumb for the veteran one.
The sides of the helmet are like JET BLACK
and nothing else on the set is
Puncture to Surgical, Sprint to your choice of Flak, Maniac or Carapace
it will be fine
this is peak warhammer lmfao
its look really weird couldn't they just give us lorewise cosmetic armor instead of those lame one
also this is black also
i wish it was accruate instead of the half-arsed one we getting rn
@somber axle I see didn’t wana get rid of the picture since it’s so high especially since it’ll just auto go into my library when the update drops
fatshark ruining everyone's day by implementing something, half-arsed and making everyone mad
Is it really such a bad blessing?
actual navy blue would have been decent for the grey/blue ones we have
unfortunately its metal.
krieg was better
I always find myself going back to the original catachan cosmetic personally >_>
if someone bought this hmm
Puncture doesn't really help it on any breakpoints and it also doesn't apply the bleed in an AoE to the explosions so it's very weak as a blessing
I see ok, also Can’t choose between flak or carapace for the perk
I’m assuming flak? Since it’s more common
But then again they’re typically farther aren’t they like the gunners?
flak always better
id choose flak since thats gonna be the most you'll be shooting anyway
feel like boltpistol shooting at crusher is a wasted effort
Honestly bro I've said it before and I'll say it again
Ok ty
Fartshart has this trend where they do something really cool.
Then they decide to fuck it up after finishing it.
Idk my bp 2-3 hits crusher when I mark em and that’s when it was blue
for a run/gun combat specialist loadout it just holds up really nicely:
admittedly using a different head piece
but that's for sneaky :>
laugh at this user
Boltpistol can perform surprisingly well against Crusher with the right talent set up
You can easily get 2HKO breakpoint on Crushers with the Boltpistol
havent been using it on zealot.
but very neat
Like bro.. The helmet in the new set now barely even matches with the chest.
Zarona Revolver has 5 shots and requires longer to reload all 5 shots
Boltpistol has 8 shots and reloads much faster
Both have pros and cons
one 4800lvl guy used it and he hates it lolz
kek
the boltpistol has more "ohshitohshitohshit" panic potential as well :>
If you're doing Weapon Specialist and slapping poxwalkers to auto-reload between shots you'll still take longer to kill crushers than a Boltpistol 1HKOing them
Is collateral a big deal also on bolt pistols? I just got this.
BUT
I should clarify that 1HKO Boltpistol breakpoint is through Exe Stance + Marksman's Focus
it isn't letting me post my boltpistol for some reason
maybe too many pics posted?
what abilities/grenade/keystone do you want?
Is the grey I posted any good even tho the collat is 69?
I'll build you a tree around your preferences
Collateral is a dump stat you should be fine
Oh sick
idk saw one with exec stance.
also
having a
I haven't tested stagger breakpoints on the Boltpistol yet but so far it can't do the 2 shot shield stagger on Bulwarks that the Boltgun can
Ofc I get a 380 one right after I make my 372 gold lmfao
is peak warhammer
use this then
for bolter? hm
Longshot is optional for Crusher 1HKO
when you say Bolter, do you mean Boltgun or Boltpistol?
I am confused
big one
i'd say boltpistol for the pistol
Yeah it's 2:30 am and I'm home after work so my brain is mush
This was so much cooler before they changed it.
Yooo the candle bolt pistol goes hard
Blow that bad boy after a shot 🥴
Sorry Slaanesh got to me

it had krieg energy ngl
yellow is not quite popular there isnt much to match it
smh
Like buttery mashed potatoes
Oh man the ogryn suit and matching shield is great
i think this is worth to get
LMFAO
and ve must deal vit it
what do we do for perks for the bolt pistol?
elite + maniac
got these btw
Man I wish they’d give us a commisar hate with a bionic eye
Really makes me not wana get the current ones knowing they might some day
What do you think will go good for the doom gun?
ah the foot fetish guy
god i wish it worked that way
there's way too many of them in the hiding
i know like 3 people that, if i hadn't found out what i did, i'd have nver guessed were into feet
Finally somebody not immediately saying my character looks like Lord far quad from shrek
A dog-taming maul with matching blessings: would you buy it?
erotophonophile gang rise up
collecting falter.
no much else.
you want HV/SC/LR
pfp checks out
high volt basically adds 25% damage for subsequent attacks, Scullcrusher is skullcrusher, and the parry shit is p useful
you a zealot player also by any chance backup?
I haven't experimented with it yet so idk but I've heard Both Barrels is a very good blessing for it
I'll give I a honest try when it doesn't jerk your screen down
I like it
I maybe splurged more than I should have getting the weapon skins too LMFAO
but I don't feel too bad about throwing the cash at Fatshark
I feel the update definitely deserves a bit of goodwill
i am
am i stupid or did they swap the colors of headshot damage and crit damage in the meat grinder?
they did
name checks out
me using weapons customization:
what do we take for blessings on the bolt pistol?
surely surgical sucks
that or headhunter
weapon customization users on their way to make the most beautiful weapons mankind has ever seen 
i literally want to vomit from looking at that
i made a chainglaive before
bro think he
weapon customization users mentioning it whenever someone posts a pic of in-game drip
weapon customization users crashing every 2 games:
deserved tbh
Is that a flamer? Yo that looks awesome
could be worse
top mounter crossbow is not as bad
is sydonai edits
it's a flamer glued onto a recon
Wish that flamer fuel was in the front rather than the back, but looks neat otherwise
shoved inside*
it's an underbarrel flamer + bayonet under the autogun barrel taped onto a crossbow bolter
Yeeeah... I fell for it... And the revolver....
the revolver looks really nice imo
The Revolver is also so sexy
bad to the bone riff
double bad to the bone riff
MY GIF SPAM IS BEING RESTRICTED BROTHERS AND SISTERS
they find my memes distasteful
they didn't like me asking if i was rarted a bit ago either
Enforcers are taking over the Mourningstar LMFAO
LMFAO
can't i have a forever trip to the US planned
ok then shoot them
and then sue them
now put lacerate on it
2nd roll lol
well
how bout dis
i’d go with this one just for the blessing chance
cuz like
the damage doesn't really change much
especially on a weapon that fires this fast
it loses 5 damage
with a weapon that has high RPM it does matter
but doesnt matter much
sunburn
i feel like vets pretty bad rn if you dont run shout or plasma/columnus/revolver
get this man on meta detox
bro never felt the sweet touch of executioner’s stance shredder autopistol
lmao now thats a statement
Why
Vet literally was unchanged
Except buffs
local metaslave decides that everything aside from op is bad
To some of the shittier guns
tbh after zealot nerfs he's more vulnerable now
smart move by vet fanboys
i was using a shotgun and had no ammo like the whole run
Cause there was no nerfs this patch
and thats using melee 80% of the time
emp drops never change
I just used a double barrel in AM and had no ammo issues
Its pretty good
It was lawbringer, db might have good ammo efficiency
Even without scav you only get low on ammo if you over use it
it was without scav
what do yall usually run double barrel for perks?
Well
scattershot fs
I know you dont have one lol
If ur literally
and thats blessings
On your scoreboard
SCATTERSHOT AND MANSFOPEPR
80 percent of your dmg is melee
i need PERKS
i got 100% accuracy its a shotgun
Not even pre buff recon is that bad on ammo:dmg
Sure but are you actually 1 tapping gunners
See iuse a run and gun playstyle so im constantly in the enemys face dumping shells into their skulls
I am
Or are you "hitting" but only hitting half your pellets
hey free thrust
for perk
nice.
SCATTERSHOT MANSTOPPED
does it oneshot muties with it cause i remember shotgun doing 150% damage on a close range maniac.
but it wont proc if u do the alt fire
I dont use the alt fire all the time
why would it not proc?
also what?
fuk u for making me log on just to prove you wrong
feels like it does this for me
bro i mean at the ranges it matters
it can do it up to 15m
also ur using that mark thingy
and the crit thingy
Still just normal materials as rewards which is slightly disappointing
HV/SC and LR
dont consider other stuff
jfc
and no its not critting
wat dat
and lightning reflexes
So uh
gyazo replay does not capture long enough but i did it 3 times in a row there
if you dont want 4500 plasteel ill take yours
ur gun or ur aim just sucks
I mean I still want it
Do you just not get credit from the event without using those weapons yourself?
Because I have zero credit and people in my games have definitely used them
ill prove it not one shot when i get on later
if i rmember
maybe yours doesnt
or your aim sucks
like i said
Given how low the numbers are, pretty sure it’s for your kills
i also dont use deadshot on a shotgun
its
During the Skulls event the kills were much higher
dreg gunner btw
ffs i alr told you its not critting most of these shots
the colors swapped this patch
for whatever reason
The skulls event was headshots, this is elite/special kills
Massive difference in availability
u are wrong
wsec
let me show you
i turned off hpbar mod
the orange number is higher than the yellow number
are u telling me critting makes you do less dmg?
me when the guy wont listen
literally why
the HP bar vanila has been bugged
and it swapped headshot/crit damage
cause
idk
fatshark
so the HP bar mod(on the top) is reliable
Thanks fatshark
wait
gloryhunter is 30% on boltol?
might use that
hm
cause its measily 16% on bolter
Thanks gonna steal that now 
maybe they changed how crit work
It's shit, you can just have it
i alr explained what happened, its just the hp bar color indicators that got swapped
just accept that lawbringer can 1tap gunners lol
and that its a skill/gear issue that you cant
I'm reminded of why I have my steam review left as negative
I'd spend much more money crafting a weapon to do the event than I'd get from the event
thoughts for boltpistol build
but locks will be removed

Eventually
did you spend a full year walking under ladders, breaking glass and having black cat parades pass your house? geez
with luck like that your birthday could be on Friday the 13th and I wouldn't be surprised
also the Enforcer helmet has a REALLY cool voice effect
it's exactly the one you think it is
Which shock maul is better
wish he gave me a sloppy rob
how does it sound
same one Scion helmet and the recent Kasrkin helmet share
doesnt matter but the mk3 is funnier
i bought the
new
ogryn krieg hat thing
cause it looked funny
i bought
boltpistol
god
depends on if it is a skin for a weapon you will use
the axe skin is nice if you like Rashad
s e x y
boltpistol is the one iw as thinking of
except
i dont have a remotely decent one yet

and i have a godroll rashad but i actually dont play it much
so that is a waste of money
for me
weapon customization
yeah
i usually just customize everything off anyway lul
keeps the color though ig
So the double barrel seems to do more than double the damage on a double shot
The black laspistol skin is SEXY
sex bomb
I can't believe I was talking earlier about Darktide having good stability/performance on launch for this update
I jinxed myself
this is the second crash tonight

you have angered the machine spirit
The machine spirit wants me to go to bed
No clue what's considered good on it atm, I was looking for scattershot though
Which I have at t3 now
But I'd have to craft it on
Both Barrels is considered one of the better blessings
Deathspitter is good too
You're probably fine swapping the perks
That one can work
stealing this meme from driptide because Vet chat deserves to see it too
both barrels + speedload + wep spec 
The Doom super shotgun experience lol
Moving from 7m to 8m means I can't one shot dreg gunners with the double shot anymore
Even with anoint in blood and 10% elite
Yeah that's normal
I hate the fat shark
The damage falloff at range is silly but it makes things explode in close range
it’s the grenade gauntlet special attack 
Zealot doesn't have rending access either
I bound mine to T cuz I’m too used to verm 2 gaming 
f8 gang wya
just stop spamming it like its supposed to make a difference other then give me an anurysm
fucking hell
Already spent more resources than the whole event would give me
thank you sweden
saveable
The fact that you specifically need to use it is insulting
we'll see what hadron gives me
after an ad break (sleep)
There's a guy in this game
with a mk3 power sword
He's taking brutal and slaughtr
What perks and blessings should I go with this type of mauly?
(Not using it just asking in general)
I’ve seen people like the “enemies electrified take XX% more damage” blessing but I haven’t gotten it on my shock maul yet 
high voltage is really nice
