veteran-class

[tall torrent]

Oh the new shotgun has gloryhunter, nice

[somber axle]

I wouldn't recommend Kantrael for the Marksman's Focus 10 stack 2500 kills penance

[pseudo fiber]

that's bolt pistol sorry gamer

[somber axle]

It has the highest per shot damage but the special shot is a burn that is far less effective at killing hordes

[tall torrent]

Ah ok

The 3 bleed seems mid tho

[somber axle]

Can the bolt pistol fire full auto like the boltgun?

[silk quail]

well ill try out a couple methods. i've mostly been using catachan 6 combat blade for infil and power sword for marksman. but the power sword should be more than enough to clear hordes.

[pseudo fiber]

no

[somber axle]

sadness

[silk quail]

alright well i'll try these methods out. thank you everyone for the suggestions and tips!

[pseudo fiber]

interestingly it is the opposite of the boltgun and fires faster when adsing though

[somber axle]

Yeah you can crab walk to victory using the power sword too

[pseudo fiber]

what about a fourth bleed!

[somber axle]

I left the crab life behind in TF2 so I did it with the shotgun method instead

[tall torrent]

Still mid

[faint beacon]

Deadly Accurate

Stay winning

[tall torrent]

Meta is prob DA + weapon specialist

Does it have ghost

[pseudo fiber]

idk

no

I think

[faint beacon]

DA + Gloryhunter could be good

With WS

[fleet thicket]

hey guys

who here is exited for shock maul?

im gonna be using it on my squad leader to keep my teammates in line

like a good commisar

[last parcel]

i thought you were suppsoed to put on the power glove and fist th em

[pseudo fiber]

oh silly me I forgot a very important one

execution, lethal proximity, deadly accurate, glory hunter, puncture, surgical and run and gun

seems to be the list

[somber axle]

Surgical + DA

[severe gale]

cant wait to spend all my plasteel and get glory hunter 400 times

[last parcel]

execution + puncture

[tall torrent]

I am
But not that interested in crafting much before the rework

[pseudo fiber]

I got plasteel and a gambling addiction it'll be fun!

[tall torrent]

DA + surgical, weapon specialist

[silk quail]

decent enough roll?

[elder fiber]

ye

[pale pecan]

Question, how are you seeing these early?

[lucid hinge]

holy shit DA+surg

Give me that shit now!

[pseudo fiber]

https://www.twitch.tv/moopshark
This guy is streaming the update early with persmission
instead of playing the new map first he bought a shitton of teh new wepaons and slammed them into hadron lmfao

[pale pecan]

Ah je vois

[pale pecan]

So he's already on it lmao

[pseudo fiber]

idk if he's doing this mission right now I am not watching the mission

[silk quail]

so should i lose elites for pox walkers? whats a decent blessing set as well?

[pale pecan]

I really wanna try weapon specialist with the double barrel and the melee kills auto reloading keystone.

Just go crazy on the power sword then swap

[tall torrent]

Manstopper + scattershot

Ur perks are fine

But the 2 blessings u got are pretty bad

[pale pecan]

I personally like Scattershot and Flechette on the Incendiary Shotgun more if crowd control is what you're going for.

Otherwise Fullbore and No Respite are always a good combo

I don't really touch the Green and Blue shottys

[somber axle]

Yeah I'd swap both blessings to Manstopper/Scattershot and you're good

[sullen thorn]

your blessings are great if you want to use it for anti special/elites, no respite helps with that use aswell

[clear mist]

are we getting the new shotgun tomorrw`?

[pseudo fiber]

ye

[pale pecan]

We're getting all the new stuff tomorrow.

Idk when the update releases timezone wise

[sullen thorn]

My plasteel is going to be wiped in 5 minutes

[somber axle]

Boltpistol and Double Barrel Shotgun tomorrow

Oh and Shock Maul if you like melee weapons

[clear mist]

ah i was about to ask if thare was an pin with countdown

[pseudo fiber]

the shockmaul looks awesome

[pale pecan]

I have like 35k Plasteel and 2 mil Dockets

I'm not gonna get anything lmao

[somber axle]

Plasteel plague is here

Diamantine shortage begins

[pale pecan]

I'm really hoping Vet can get it

[clear mist]

what is an good build nowadays i havent played in an long time (and weapons=

[pseudo fiber]

they can

[pale pecan]

I want a blunt weapon for veteran

[sullen thorn]

All humans get the shockmauls

[pale pecan]

So are all the human weapons cross class?

[pseudo fiber]

yes

[pale pecan]

Or can Psyker not get the shotgun?

[pseudo fiber]

all of them get the shock maul, shotgun and boltpistol

[pale pecan]

If Psyker can get the shotgun I'm gonna go crazy

Oh my god

[clear mist]

who can make a better shotgun build vet or zealot?

[pseudo fiber]

unless osmething changed between the release build adn the build on stream I watched him buy it on psyker

[pale pecan]

Let me take a peek at that then

[sullen thorn]

I prefer shotgun use on my zealot personally... anoint in blood feels great for them

It's really preference and playstyle tho

[pale pecan]

I wanna go back earlier in his steam

[pseudo fiber]

you gotta wait until it;s over I think

[pale pecan]

Rip

[clear mist]

ah okay i asked since i havent played zealot since beta
and havent relly played since thay change perk tree

[sullen thorn]

Anoint in Blood is one of the 3 initial passives and gives you up to +25% ranged damage the closer you are to the enemy maxing out at like 17m at like 1% iirc

very nice synergy with shotgun use imo

[clear mist]

maby i shoude make an zealot tomorrow i gusse

[sullen thorn]

manstopper and flechette can be fun on a crit zealot build aswell

[pale pecan]

I prefer crit flamer

[faint beacon]

Okay okay but like, Knife + DB

MKIV to be specific

[pale pecan]

Knife already heavily synergizes with the serrated blade talent node

Just get Uncanny Strike and Mercy Killer and you 2-3 shot most things

[faint beacon]

Yeah thats what I run with my knife build

[pale pecan]

Yep.

[faint beacon]

literally just building a correct DB

[pale pecan]

Vet is kinda busted for being able to have that combo so easily

Being able to 3 shot headshot a crusher with a knife feels amazing.

I do really want to try the Shock Maul tho

Stacking Bleed with the Shock from it's attacks might be the meta.

Defo wanna try Melee vet with it.

[pseudo fiber]

It does look really fun

[faint beacon]

Shock Maul confirmed to be on like

[somber axle]

Weapon Specialist Double Barrel Shotgun sounds hilarious

[pseudo fiber]

especially for it's alt attack

[faint beacon]

Human Classes?

[pseudo fiber]

ye

[somber axle]

Never reload

Only boomstick

[pale pecan]

The fact it applies the shock on every attack seems crazy to me.

[faint beacon]

Oh damn nice, watching that stream and it looks hilarious how you can just stun lock a Bulwark lmao

[feral bay]

Remember the short amount of time where Ogryns could do this and just have infinite ammo?

[pale pecan]

I'm a little confused on how the special attack might work tho, it looks like the Psyker's Force Sword attack

[pseudo fiber]

yeah that's cool
However I'm looking forward to tasing people

[pale pecan]

Oh I abused the hell out of that lmao

[white minnow]

special is a stab with the shock instead of being an activation anim it seems

[pale pecan]

Blaze Away and Insipiring Barrage made it so you never could die

[white minnow]

pretty neat

[old quail]

i am clairvoyant

[somber axle]

Are they not able to do this on Gunlugger anymore?

[old quail]

for the record

[pseudo fiber]

yeah it'll be great hitting a crusher with that or bulwark

[pale pecan]

They patched it a bit ago

[white minnow]

go away

[old quail]

rude

[somber axle]

Unfortunate

[feral bay]

Sadly, no. The emperor's favor was patched out for Ogryns.

[pale pecan]

I remember Infinite Stealth Zealot

And Infinite Toughness Veteran

Those were fun times

[feral bay]

Why do they keep having to remove the fun from an only co-op game.

[pale pecan]

Vacuum Capsule

[white minnow]

fun (the kickback ogryn in the background killing everything before you can get to it)

it's certainly not like this game is devoid of a power fantasy at any moment given that you can just drop difficulties

[somber axle]

I just want my Surgical + Deadly Accurate Boltpistol and I will enjoy these last few days of Darktide before I am lost for months in FF14

[pale pecan]

I mean

A good Powersword vet with the right Melee build can Solo Maelstrom

[pseudo fiber]

oh yeah that'll be awesome

[pale pecan]

There's plenty of power fantasy to be had

Without abusing bugs

[white minnow]

yeah though I doubt that they're the type of person who can do that given that they brought up the "it's a co-op game" argument

[pale pecan]

I do it lol

[white minnow]

alright but I'm talking about the OTHER person

not you

[pale pecan]

I practice to get better for carrying randoms

Fair enough lmao

At this rate

I'm betting Solo mode for this game is gonna be like Versus mode for VT2

It's not gonna happen until the very end of the game's lifespan so that people can still buy the game and play it when no one else is anymore.

But until then we have mods

[clear mist]

are those weapon stil good? (just overall i mean ) shoude i change somthing in my talents?

[sleek garden]

the trappers are on something zany today

[somber axle]

Do you ever get petty

Someone told me to stick with the squad earlier when I wasn't very far from them. They got netted into tox fire and I let them burn to death, killed everything and revived later

I probably could have pushed up hard to save them but it felt more satisfying letting them watch me win the fight they lost

[old quail]

i did something like this one time when i was very clearly outperforming a guy and right before the end of sycorax he was like "keep up"

when he went down at the end i revived him and then said "keep up" and he was like "wtf i meant like keep up the good work"

[elder fiber]

boo-urns

[midnight totem]

right?

like revolver but better

[somber axle]

I definitely want to try the Double Barrel at some point for Doom memes

But Bolt Pistol is #1 on the priority list tomorrow

[last parcel]

double bolt pistol

[low kelp]

Which of these two would be better?

[serene bough]

Id go left

[naive iris]

Double Barrel & Weapon Specialist (Reload on Melee Kill) seems fun

[serene bough]

Rampage isn't necessary

[low kelp]

Yea, mobility is nice though and cleave targets doesn't do much with brutal momentum. Also no +maniacs means can't one shot them iirc

[crude fiber]

Updates tomorrow? Cool beans

[somber axle]

I don't think the extra mobility stat gives you anything major

51% is where you have max number of dodges

[low kelp]

thanks, second question: Anyone have a good helbore exe stance build?

[somber axle]

If you want more mobility as far as like better dodge distance/speed go Weapon Specialist

[low kelp]

helbore exe stance + deadshot*

[somber axle]

I can show you the one I use

[low kelp]

Please do :D

[austere mica]

Left is way better

[somber axle]

Quick question first

Which Helbore variant?

[somber axle]

Ok a Mk II perfect

[crude fiber]

Whats all coming in the update tomorrow?

[somber axle]

This will give you the breakpoints for Dreg Gunner 1HKO and both Flamer 1HKO without needing Unarmoured or Maniac perks

You can swap Longshot into the Stam regen delay if you prefer

I also like running my Helbore Mk II with Carapace on my Helbore

With this build you can bring Crushers into the 2-3 shot range

A Mk II Helbore running Voice of Command and without Carapace as a perk will need 5-7 shots to bring down a Crusher

[austere mica]

Also VoC is boring

[low kelp]

yea I'm avoiding VoC builds, burned out on vet cause of it

Wanna try a stealth build but feel I should get an axe for that

[somber axle]

Being able to kill them for almost free through Surgical, Deadshot and Shock Trooper on a weapon that fires as fast as the Mk II Helbore in as little as 2-3 shots is very funny

[austere mica]

I have one build that uses it and it is my ultra brain dead build (ps6 and plasma)

[somber axle]

Wanna see my alternate Infiltrate build for my Helbore Mk II?

I like swapping between Exe Stance and Infil for my Helbore Mk II depending on my mood

[austere mica]

I miss the bayonet interactions

I never got to fully exploit them

[somber axle]

It ends up being relaxing parking next to the squad and freely firing into elites/specials through Low Profile

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/residentevil-merchant-gif-6214633

[somber axle]

Agile Engagement is very strong since you can proc the bonus to ranged damage by bayoneting a Poxwalker in the face

If you like juggling you should still be able to consistently hit both Dreg Gunner and Flamer 1HKO breakpoints on a Mk II Helbore without needing the Unarmoured perk or Maniac perk on your gun

Plus you can use Infil to make plays

[austere mica]

Bayonet interacting with Limbsplitter (without putting it on cooldown) and bromentum was funny as hell

[somber axle]

You have Iron Will, Close Quarters Drill and Confirmed Kill so you end up being pretty solid on toughness even outside of the extra toughness gain from Target Down

And always have Infiltrate in your back pocket for emergencies

I like using it with either the standard shovel or the fold shovel for all in on Krieg memes

Solid horde clear and you can 1HKO bonk Crushers over the head

(With fold Shovel + Thrust)

Usually you don't want to risk the long animation of the fold + long charged heavy into a Crusher but with Low Profile you can get away with it

I do this with triple Stam curios because I am a Deadshot fiend I also love being able to freely rescue a downed team mate and block an entire horde of poxwalkers without being interrupted and not needing to drop a grenade to pull it off

[last parcel]

i’ll still always throw a nade when running triple stam because boom make happy chemical

[somber axle]

That's fair but my Infil build uses Kraks and I like saving those for Crusher/Bulwark squads clipping into each other

For Exe Stance it definitely feels worth to drop double shredders on approach if ragers/maulers are swarming a downed squadmate

[low kelp]

What about a good columnus 5 build?

[hidden torrent]

col mk 5 is always good

you don't need a build imo

[winter grove]

So, what's the vet gun that was teased in the vid?

[midnight totem]

Double barrel shotgun

[somber axle]

You might need to check with the others on that. I don't use that gun because I don't like it

It's one of the strongest guns in the game though

[austere pine]

do i get this at milk's? i don't have a lasgun and would like to try one

and this is a really good stat roll

and deadly accurate pre-installed

[uncut pebble]

If you have no other lasgun then there's no reason not to. I'd drop the crit strike chance for your preferred damage type and drop efficiency for headhunter.

[somber axle]

Swap Efficiency to Headhunter or Ghost (I'd do Headhunter)

Swap Ranged Weak Spot Damage to Flak

It's ok

[austere pine]

here's what i did to it

[somber axle]

Nice

[austere pine]

i might switch the flak to maniac depending on what it feels like in game

[somber axle]

Yeah that will perform fine

It doesn't have Flak and Maniac but HH/DA is a solid combo and the stats are good

[austere pine]

wait do assassination missions inherently give more dockets?

[somber axle]

I'd keep Flak for a better time body shotting Maulers and better damage for easier breakpoints on Flak Ragers

[austere pine]

no i'm a fool

[hearty panther]

@somber axle https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1254950095779008624/image.png?ex=667b5ada&is=667a095a&hm=5b2d84f47c1bc956ea952cda85055e7c7f1998fca568a05ce54910a25a192a63&

😎

[last parcel]

recon chads stay winning

[somber axle]

WHAT LMFAO

Did they change Recons

Did they buff Recons?

Even if all that changed is doubling the clip size I'm about to be the funniest person in every quickplay lobby

[hearty panther]

we're getting at least that much

[tall torrent]

big buff??

[somber axle]

Can they change Exe Stance to automatically reload your weapon on use too?

I will never reload ever again

[tall torrent]

wait did the next patch's balance changes leak alrdy

[last parcel]

i want exe stance to rub my feet

[somber axle]

Tomorrow is going to be a magical day to be a clown

[tall torrent]

I need the balance patch

[rigid pilot]

Will there be balance changes?

[hearty panther]

probs

[tall torrent]

100%

[slow sky]

supposedly the testers were able to submit changes for balance patches on existing weapons

and the 2 glaringly bad weapon types are supposedly going to be tuned

either in this patch or in the near future

[rigid pilot]

Dclaw gets +100% damage buff

[slow sky]

god please

[rigid pilot]

I assume that's recons and Paul

[austere pine]

Kantrael MG Ia Infantry Lasgun: A Review

Much shooting for little kill but feels good and has more shooting in mag than Vraks Mk VII Headhunter Autogun. I like but getting a wicked MG XII would probably be more for me.

[slow sky]

im trying to think of a witty response but i cant think of anything so just pretend that i did, but yes youre right

[rigid pilot]

Paul Clancy's Ghost Recon

[slow sky]

FUCK

ive been bested

[wise fossil]

Supposedly ex stance doesn't drop after swapping to melee

[radiant chasm]

Problem mk12 is that it needs basically everything and planetary alignment to get oneshot bps, while mkia hits 2 hit bps extremely easy

[austere pine]

a tragedy in 2 pictures

[radiant chasm]

Mk12 is cursed i warned ya

[terse idol]

If you like the Ia

You might not like the 12

Like, you may literally be able to feel the dps decrease

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-christmas-gif-13144890

It's like Christmas

[somber axle]

Not if you play extra silly and use Exe Stance

[tall torrent]

which are?

1 of them has to be power maul right

what's the other

[somber axle]

You can even hit 1HKO BPs on the Mg1a but it requires more stacks of MF

[tall torrent]

MG12 is significantly worse unfortunately

[somber axle]

Mk XII just does it for less investment and depending on how you feel about Exe Stance + MF Lasguns you might like appreciate that lower requirement for 1HKO more

But I like the SPEED

Kantrael Mk IV Infantry Lasgun

[tall torrent]

I hate MG12's firerate and how much it sucks, not just having to play a specific way for 1 taps, but also the weak bodyshots

I recently went back to DRG cuz s5 dropped, and have been using MPA warthog which shoots even slower than MG12 and is a weakspot focused build

it's still significantly more enjoyable because it not only has 1 tap HS, but also 2 tap bodyshot with extremely good consistency

[rigid pilot]

https://youtu.be/2sxq2jIMJ84
Potential spoilers for new map

I really like the draw speed of the DBS, seems faster than the ones we currently have, also shock mauls look just like axe/taxe moveset

[austere pine]

vet gets a maul next update?

[somber axle]

Imagine if the Double Barrel Shotgun, Bolt Pistol and Shock Maul are all universal weapons for Veteran, Zealot and Psyker

Every match, regardless of class, will have people using them

Meanwhile Ogryns will yearn for the mines

[austere pine]

this guy has 0 idea about how to play vet i feel like

from a numbers standpoint

[rigid pilot]

Yes they are universal

[hearty panther]

yea about that

[rigid pilot]

He's not a DT YouTuber

[austere pine]

no wonder

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-gif-13136161200304612855

Everyone gets one

[iron marten]

double barrel wep specialist sounds funny

[austere pine]

the enemies being covered in snow is such a nice touch

[somber axle]

Double Barrel Shotgun + Weapon Specialist and the special shot that fires both barrels with the 100% crit chance from Ranged Specialist could be very funny burst damage

[austere pine]

you never get more than 1 shell in with always prepared for the double barrel

[somber axle]

Just reload the second

[hearty panther]

takes just as long as reloading two

[austere pine]

kinda defeats the whole point of it

[hearty panther]

not really any point

[austere pine]

you could kill smth, get 1 in, switch back to melee, get another in

[somber axle]

With the blessing that increases reload speed by 70% after both barrels fire, and the reload speed bonus from Weapon Specialist you can probably finish the reload in time for the crit

[hearty panther]

im gonna have to see the other offerings but

im writing off that reload speed buff immediately lol

[umbral scaffold]

Hope one day we can use a sword in one hand and the bolt pistol on the other xd

[hearty panther]

the gun reloads in two seconds and it's staged

it'll probably be very funny to execute it but i dont see myself ever running it, same as all reload speed currently

[somber axle]

I desire clown science with it

This was shared earlier

[austere pine]

range as a stat yuck dude

[somber axle]

I want to see how fast I can make the reload

Reload speed perk, reload speed talents, reload speed stat, reload speed blessing

Just to witness instant reload for fun

[rigid pilot]

Oh Lord both barrels

New ammo sink

[somber axle]

We have one barrel. But what about second barrel?

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-billy-boyd-peregrin-took-cheers-gif-4727251

[midnight totem]

So really

this is grudgeraker to kruber's blunderbuss

or rather, to ogryn's kickback

[frank ether]

the doom ost has nothing over jesper kyd's work lmao

I guess meaningless comparission but I don't really listen to other music when I play this game, it has a good soundtrack

I'm not much of a shotty player but hoping boltpistol to have some good weapon swap tech

given that regular bolter doesnt rly work with weapon specialist

[shadow dagger]

oh fun

[rigid pilot]

Bolt pistol more like revolver

I haven't seen any boltpistol footage though

[shadow dagger]

tanner dropped a video of him tweaking about dt

thats a new one

[rigid pilot]

Tanner

[bleak cradle]

A bad revolver… the sway on ironsight is atrocious

[radiant chasm]

Tweaking it

And by it

My tanner

[frank ether]

I prefer agri revolver over zarona anyway

[rigid pilot]

Lmao why didn't they lean into the explosive stagger aspect make it a nade launcher lite

[somber axle]

Sounds like Exe Stance/Deadshot users are winning with the Bolt Pistol

Good luck to you and your weapon sway if you use neither

I would love it if the objectively best Bolt Pistol talent set up for Vet meta ended up being Exe Stance + Deadshot

Gonna do so much clown science with this gun

[serene bough]

deadshot stinky

[sinful swallow]

God I hope so

But idk if I'm actually gonna give up the mag dump flex or not yet

I've got like 25kplasteel and 2 mil dockets to BiS a bolt pistol and see what it can do

[somber axle]

Diamantine is now the resource I hunt for more than Plasteel

Frequently upgrading weapons to see if they'll be even marginally stronger than current weapons has shifted my need away from Plasteel

[fleet garden]

so we getting any good vet weapons today?

[serene bough]

how do you even manage to dump all your diamantine before plasteel

[somber axle]

Bolt Pistol, Double Barrel Shotgun, Shock Maul

[fleet garden]

sadge

[somber axle]

By earning plasteel faster than diamantine

[serene bough]

do you always upgrade your weapons to gold

bc if youre farming blessings for weapons you usually stop at blue quality

[somber axle]

Not always

But I do very frequently upgrade weapons

Either to try something new or to try to make an upgrade for something I already have

[serene bough]

i see

[somber axle]

I recently ran the Rashad Mk II Combat Axe gauntlet to roll one that would work just to see how good it is

Only to learn that I like the Tac Axe more than it

[serene bough]

i still find it hard to believe bc im drowning in diamantine

i dont think ive ever been at a deficit

[sinful swallow]

Jealous

Melk hit me with back to back bangers

[somber axle]

It's easy if you upgrade weapons often and play Auric Damnation or even just Standard Damnation and constantly destroy the little shrines, help people get skulls and search dark corners of maps for every bit of diamantine/plasteel you can

[sinful swallow]

I had 24k evaporate in the last 3 days

[somber axle]

The plasteel generation per map can be very high

[serene bough]

i wonder how long it would take me to spend 90k diamantine

[sinful swallow]

Tfw knife zealot speedruns

[somber axle]

900-1000+ plasteel from a single match

[serene bough]

i understand plasteel generation is super high but the spending pool on diamantine is low which is why i find it strange

you only spend diamantine on purple/golds

[somber axle]

Pre-Path of Redemption I was the same way. After the penance update it flipped hard. The Skulls even pushed my plasteel even further LOL

Skulls update kept dumping more plasteel in my lap

[serene bough]

do u want to spend my diamantine

i cant spend it fast enough

[somber axle]

Nah I'm ok

I have all that I need currently

I am ready for when the new weapons drop

[fleet garden]

bolt pistol, double barrel shotgun and shock maul; are those the only weapons in the upcoming patch?

[serene bough]

part of me doesnt want to spend money yet knowing itemization is coming in a few months

[somber axle]

Ogryns are getting three variants of pickaxe

[thorny cobalt]

Veteran players, please give insight
how does one do this badly with the single best threat deletion device in the game? (plasma)

[somber axle]

I spend it as much as I like just to keep trying new weapons so the game stays fun and fresh

[fleet garden]

weapon wise it looks kinda grim for me

[unique orchid]

based

[serene bough]

crabwalk penance?

[thorny cobalt]

he was running Marksmans Focus

or no, Focus Target

[somber axle]

Could have been crabwalk

[thorny cobalt]

the yellow enemy highlight one

[somber axle]

Oh nevermind

[serene bough]

then just crossplay shenanigans

doesnt know which way to hold plasma

[somber axle]

Does that symbol next to his account name mean he is an Xbox player

Because I remember someone here saying they can always tell when someone is a console player and that was one of the ways

[hearty panther]

that's the gamepass symbol

not strictly Xbox

[somber axle]

If they're a console player it could explain why they struggle. Controller players are not nearly as good as mouse/keyboard players in games like these usually

[unique orchid]

mostly just due to the fact that on a controller your turnspeed is slow

[somber axle]

This moment has reminded me that they nerfed Torbjorn on Overwatch exclusively on the console version because console players complained he was too hard to fight while PC players didn't struggle as much

[thorny cobalt]

weirdly, he didn't really die to specialists that much

just gunners or melee chaff

[unique orchid]

happens to the best of us even

[thorny cobalt]

it does, but like

not this much

[somber axle]

Maybe they were trying to play on a guitar hero controller or a dance dance revolution square as a challenge

[serene bough]

reminds me of those people who play dark souls 3 using bananas as controllers

[fleet garden]

bananas

plasma only banana controller

[serene bough]

🅱️ lasma

[rigid pilot]

Controller players are all pious

They just pray that the poxburster isn't coming for them because they cannot turn around to check/push

[hearty panther]

you dont gotta see to push

[stoic mantle]

Gentlemen.

The lasgun's special should not be a flashlight, it should be using the mag as a grenade. Agree?

[austere mica]

Teidore is a terrible company, no

[stoic mantle]

Tediore had some of the best guns in BL2 though

But seriously, the lore says a lasgun magazine can be used as an improvised krak grenade. So why not?

[austere mica]

Aside from that is trash that makes me waste tons of ammo due to my natural impulse to reload every 3 seconds

[stoic mantle]

You know the way you use tediore is get one with a big mag and fire 1 shot and reload

the primary attack of tediore is the throw not the shot

[amber cliff]

my ass clicked that prime with benifts thing

[midnight totem]

I do want extra benefits with my weapons

you suppose the update will come with any extra penances or penance track progression?

[hearty panther]

presumably for the new map

[frank ether]

early to assume boltp won't be a pile of hot garbage

if you wanna make a clown build to nuke bosses agrip revolver is tough competition but we'll see

[somber axle]

Balance patch is coming. Recons are getting buffed. I have dreams of the "meta" guns getting heavy nerfs too. I would love seeing the chaos of every Vet upset at the big three dethroned. But that is a lot to ask for, so I am just happy for Recon buffs and new weapons LOL

But could you imagine if CIAG, Plasma and Zarona Revolver being targeted as outliers and nerfed accordingly?

Vet chat would be on fire and amidst it all one clown would dance on the ashes

[mortal orbit]

Only nerf to recon needs is how loud it is.

[somber axle]

[mortal orbit]

First migraine in a decade after running it for a day

[fiery wave]

Woah

Imagine FatShark doing something worthwhile

[somber axle]

If all three of the Vet meta guns get hit simultaneously you would have an uproar here LOL

[mortal orbit]

Recon w/a suppressor that reduces threat

[full nacelle]

I'm excited for the new weapons but what I'm really looking for are them juicy patch notes

[frank ether]

I don't get the obsession with wanting ciag nuked

[somber axle]

Send the old Vet mains to Zealot chat. The clown will remain with those strong enough to adapt

[frank ether]

I see plas/zarona 10 times more often than ciag

[low kelp]

This was physiucally painful to upgrade

[somber axle]

The three meta guns are meta for a reason. That reason is they are all clearly outperforming all other weapons by a very significant margin. No other weapon can even come close to what they do

[frank ether]

ciag has some disgusting crit string and thats about the most broken thing about it

[somber axle]

Destroy them

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-tony-stark-if-youre-nothing-without-this-suit-then-you-shouldnt-have-it-gif-25043516

[full nacelle]

CIAG just does everything every other autogun does better 😐

[fiery wave]

Ciag needs its crit string reduced by 1

Put it back in line

[frank ether]

I've been using agriag over it for the past like.. half a year?

[fiery wave]

Plasma needs m1 cleave removed

[frank ether]

the only thing keeping agri back is the dogshit hitreg of this game

if you wanna be a gun clown

agriag can reach bps to one shot all gunner enemies

[mortal orbit]

Columbo is next to plasmagun in how easy it is to spam down everything with relative ease. I was able to keep up in heresy at level 15-20 with an annointed one

The burst pattern is nice tho

[frank ether]

best part is you don't even need fucking deadshot

[somber axle]

If I want to be a gun clown I'll use the Headhunter Autoguns because the Braced Autoguns and Infantry Autoguns put me to sleep

There are a million games out there doing gunplay better than Darktide with guns that shoot bullets

Gimme lasguns

Gimme boltguns

Gimme something other games don't do

[fiery wave]

Speaking of balance

[mortal orbit]

Boltgun is the way, if you didnt passively become an ammo sponge with less effectiveness against a columbo

[fiery wave]

Trauma and Voidstrike need damage nerfs, specifically the fire blessing on trauma

[somber axle]

Boltgun is still very effective in my experience

But I am an Executioner's Stance and Deadshot fiend

[mortal orbit]

I agree. But in comparison to meta ya kno

[somber axle]

What I do differs immensely to the Vets who live and die by Voice of Command

[frank ether]

L take

difference between lasgun and iag is one has a laser effect

pure visual lmao

[somber axle]

Gimme the L then. I will hoard them and enjoy how much fun I have with guns unique to the franchise

[somber axle]

You can enjoy guns that I find dreadfully boring

[frank ether]

I'm not here for 40k larp

[stoic mantle]

Its hotbox time

[somber axle]

We don't have to agree on what is fun

[stoic mantle]

then you're boring

[frank ether]

I don't shoot an infantry las and then nut my pants over the visual recoil with a gun thats supposed to have no recoil lmao

[somber axle]

You find bullets fun, I find them boring

[hearty panther]

im always nutting. im nutting right now. oh god it won't stop.

[somber axle]

I love reliving the magic of Star Wars Republic Commando for squad based combat against hordes of enemies (even if the allied NPC programming of that game is better than the average quickplay player's ability to play)

[stoic mantle]

Slaanesh cultist detected.

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-flamer-heresy-purge-warhammer40k-lightning-claws-gif-16488791

[mortal orbit]

Wots ur executioners build, is it viable on laspistol 🤔

[somber axle]

I have two different builds I use Laspistol

Oh wait you said Exe Stance

One sec

[twin cedar]

I need tips for Fire Down Range penance

[full nacelle]

I really hope the boltpistol doesn't suck too hard

[stoic mantle]

hourglass missions, use something with good range like revolver, plasma, etc.

sit at the back and clear from afar

[frank ether]

it will have the exact same jank as regular bolter, maybe minus draw time

[stoic mantle]

1 round of damnation with the big fan mid event will get you it

[frank ether]

oh and prepare to reload twice as often because ammo count is more or less half

but there are ways to build around that just like regular boltgun

[somber axle]

@mortal orbit

This leaves you with 2 points to spend as you like

[stoic mantle]

are my tips enough or do you need more?

[full nacelle]

I hate having to use the massive rectangular explosive round salvo gun as a crappy revolver substitute 😦

[frank ether]

ultimately its the sway and ironsight misalignment that you gotta watch out for

[somber axle]

You can remove the points from Deadshot and Demo Team if you prefer to play without Deadshot or if you prefer to use Demo Stockpile instead

[twin cedar]

Tiny bit more if that’s cool with you

[frank ether]

deadshot might make it tolerable and I recommend getting crosshair remap mod for ADS

[somber axle]

I like the extra crit

[stoic mantle]

It doesn't specify gun kills, so you can throw frag grenades into that big initial wave and then run away from them to rack up a huge amount of kills

30m is less than you think

[somber axle]

You can put a point into Stam regen delay near the bottom of the left side talent tree

I don't find Stam regen delay to be necessary most of the time

I play triple Stam curios with all three using Stam regen perks

[twin cedar]

Alright, sounds easy enough. Thanks bro

[somber axle]

+9 Stam from curios and then +1 Stam from the talent node under Confirmed Kill gives me more than enough Stam to not care about the delay

[stoic mantle]

of course, brother, get them penances

[frank ether]

The problem is zarona probably should have been a double action revolver for game balance reasons

[stoic mantle]

it is

it literally is double action

[frank ether]

I'm not a gun nerd

make it slower

[stoic mantle]

that aint cocked

[mortal orbit]

Nice right into focus fire

[stoic mantle]

Do you mean make it slow like the R8 from counterstrike

[frank ether]

No I don't think it needs trigger delay

[mortal orbit]

I run VoC alot to support in auric + laspistol w/shock troop is godlike for ammo

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/coomer-splash-moving-gif-15917764

[mortal orbit]

Rare games where you drop below 100 reserve

[frank ether]

maybe make it so you have to ram the hammer manually after each shot or something so it shoots slower

[stoic mantle]

You mean make it single action?

[frank ether]

if thats the term for it yes

I don't see a better way of nerfing zarona

[stoic mantle]

Oh theres one really easy way to nerf it massively

-head magnetism

thats a headshot.

[frank ether]

that goes without saying

but I look at it from a perspective people aim both guns well enough to hit their shots

I think agrip revo also has massive bullet magnetism

If magnetism is gone I'd get rid of spread on agrip revo and give it a little vertical recoil instead

[stoic mantle]

Both revolvers do. That's part of what makes them so effective at quickdraw deleting specials

[rigid pilot]

It technically already is with surgical

[frank ether]

agri is not popular because it doesnt pen stuff through like half a horde like zarona does

[stoic mantle]

nah, agri is the closer range faster revolver

keep the spread

[rigid pilot]

Agri has better boss damage because of the reload speed

But worse at everything else

[frank ether]

spread is terrible

[stoic mantle]

the spread is only noticable if you are trying to snipe with it like its a zarona

[frank ether]

but it doesnt matter in practice what you use agri for

you go in the face of a boss

spam fire 5 bullets

done

agri revolver did its thing

[rigid pilot]

Zarona can consistently two tap crushers with HC/Sur but Agri might not even get you one kill per fan

But hey they fixed point blank, maybe it's good now

[frank ether]

It can fail to kill basic gunners at times yes

[rigid pilot]

Pointblank Deadshot agrivolvo vet

[frank ether]

sorry not gunners, the little shooters

[stoic mantle]

that sounds like you're trying to use a low roll revolver

[frank ether]

wild to have this gun that can nuke bosses but fail to kill the dinky stupid stalker cause you hit leg or something

[rigid pilot]

Yea limbshots are wild

[stoic mantle]

IMO they should make the agri basically a hollowpoint gun

[frank ether]

all your damage comes from crits, talent stacking and blessing anyhow

you stack trickshoot, hit your ult and get two bazillion damage because you're vet

then you nuke boss

[rigid pilot]

They already are

But handcannon exists sooo

[mortal orbit]

Deadshot is the way, im praying they add crit chance to curios. Have yet to try stamina, full toughness w/230 is a great cushion atm

[stoic mantle]

instead of armor pen related stuff give it just bonkers damage to unarmored stuff, especially maniacs

and big time stagger

like interrupt a crusher overhead stagger

stop a charging mutie stagger

[frank ether]

crit chance on curious thats not happening lmao

would become instant must have

[mortal orbit]

Keep hope

[stoic mantle]

ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HERE.

[frank ether]

I am keeping hope

[stoic mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/eomer-hope-has-forsaken-these-lands-gif-24645625

[frank ether]

I would abandon all hope from fatshark if they put crit on a curio

[mortal orbit]

Your lack of pure unadulterated zeal bothers me

Praise the crit gods

[rigid pilot]

Damage blessings on curio

[stoic mantle]

any semblence of balance would be out the window if they did that.

[frank ether]

imagine %5 per curio

%15 extra

[stoic mantle]

I can imagine that

[frank ether]

I would crit

literally every bullet

[mortal orbit]

Nah, wouldnt be too difficult to balance that out

[frank ether]

EVERY

SINGLE

BULLET

[stoic mantle]

ogryns would never stop shooting

[rigid pilot]

Reported

[mortal orbit]

But crit damage would need tinkering

Oh wow

Burst limiter fixed?

[frank ether]

gunlugger doesnt need fixing lmao

[stoic mantle]

zealots would delete everything instantly

[frank ether]

its beatiful already

[stoic mantle]

zarona would erase entire bloodlines

[rigid pilot]

We just need bigger guns

[frank ether]

yeah the ogy ammo thing sucks but it doesnt have to be good

[stoic mantle]

and voidstrike would be a must have on psyker

[frank ether]

It already kinda does lol

[rigid pilot]

Void is definitely meta but idk about must haves

This game is too easy

[frank ether]

There are too many overpowered builds

[stoic mantle]

if there was crit chance on curios?

[frank ether]

voidstrike, zarona, plas/psword vet etc etc

[stoic mantle]

voidstrike objectively benefits the most from crits in the psyker arsenal

[rigid pilot]

It will just make void win even more

Which it doesn't need

[frank ether]

actually almost anything psyker does trivializes the game

its hard to make a psyker build that doesn't do that at some level

[mortal orbit]

Gunlugger achy is the only really stand out

[frank ether]

its not like vermintide where you're worried about hurting teammates or losing HP on venting overcharge either

shit like smite can be spammed 7/24

[rigid pilot]

Smite UwU

[stoic mantle]

And its fucking awful

[frank ether]

and you can make rager packs trivial, like meat grinder levels of trivial

[rigid pilot]

Add EP and you carrying entire lobbies

[stoic mantle]

I genuinely hate smite psykers

[midnight totem]

whys that

[frank ether]

non gameplay

walk up to stunlocked horde

[rigid pilot]

Just join them

[stoic mantle]

I have something for that, its called parry

[midnight totem]

not everybody has a dclaw, but okay

[somber axle]

I like stamina curios because I'm a Deadshot fiend. But it is also nice for extra sprint and extra block. I use a Combat Knife Mk VI with my Recon Mk VId build and it has Sprint Efficiency as one of the perks. It lets me sprint down side alleys and corridors hunting for plasteel/diamantine/medkits/ammo crates/stims/ammo packs and tins without needing to worry about whether or not I can catch up to the group

[frank ether]

you can still fuck up with a d.claw and lose like %90 of your hp

[rigid pilot]

How

[stoic mantle]

imagine you're meatgrindering a doorway. a psyker decides to smite through it, now the horde is just delayed til your stacks start to run out

[somber axle]

The extra stamina for blocking means I can rescue a squadmate while poxwalkers smack me and not worry about being interrupted in the revive

[frank ether]

easy way is to have the server disagree with you on whether you hit the parry key or not

[somber axle]

It means I can pull off a save without needing to sacrifice a grenade

[rigid pilot]

Meleeing a smited horde is just stealing the psyker's kills

[stoic mantle]

sneaky mode go brrrrrr

[stoic mantle]

psykers don't deserve kills

[rigid pilot]

Nuh uh

[midnight totem]

And if another person walks up to meat grind the door you may also lose your stacks

[stoic mantle]

but the horde actually dies

[midnight totem]

Yeah, the horde I smite dies too

[rigid pilot]

The secret is there are two ways to build smite

[somber axle]

No toughness curios only hurt when I'm getting shredded by gunners and not dodging properly. But I just mitigate that by extending my dodge window iframes through dodge slide tech and it ends up being better than just facetanking bullets

[midnight totem]

Probably faster then most melee too

[rigid pilot]

One is the right way, one is the wrong way that you see too often

[stoic mantle]

I avoid getting chredded by just shooting the gunners

[stoic mantle]

ITS ALL THE WRONG WAY! ITS A BLOODY WITCH

[midnight totem]

Hell, I got the 120 kills penance using smite

120 kills in 30 seconds

[stoic mantle]

I got the 120 kills using a shovel.

[midnight totem]

Murdered everything

[rigid pilot]

There's the smite is OP reddit take and the smite is OP discord take

[somber axle]

Between dodge slide, using the cover system that everyone forgets the Vet can do, and using suppression to pin down Gunners/Reapers for easy set up to kill, I usually don't tend to worry about lacking toughness curios

[mortal orbit]

Didnt know stamina is what kept u from breaking from a save

Thats actually huge

I think its time to roll a mil into stamina curios.

[stoic mantle]

Do you have your height set to max so you can sit behind cover and still shoot shit?

[stoic mantle]

This is why you visit brunt often and grab any 3 stam curios you see

[somber axle]

When you're trying to pick up a squadmate your character counts as blocking for the purposes for melee attacks against you. Your stamina drops for each strike until your stamina hits 0. If you have a lot of block efficiency perks on your curios or a lot of stamina you can just ignore a poxwalker horde and pick someone up without caring that they're around you punching air

[stoic mantle]

If only to just have them

[somber axle]

My character is min height. If you crouch behind a crate or barrier and then aim down sights your character will peek out of cover just enough to put your sights above it (if your character is tall enough to see over the cover you are behind) and you fall back behind cover by letting go of your aim down sights button

Almost no one actually uses this mechanic

Veteran is the only class that can do it

No other class knows how to peek from cover

Most times people play hyper mobile and just dodge or dodge slide to avoid incoming fire

But there IS a cover mechanic!

[stoic mantle]

Cover is cringe

I get shot in the face like the emperor intended

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/gears-of-war-tai-gif-13019942

I sometimes use cover because it feels kinda like playing Gears of War

[odd sparrow]

faith is my armor

[stoic mantle]

Oh my god you just gave me flashbacks

[somber axle]

I still can't believe Warhammer 40k doesn't have chainsaw bayonets for their guns

[odd sparrow]

also toughness

[stoic mantle]

I used to play gears 5 online a lot

that cover is so fucking sticky

[somber axle]

It really is

But I love the cover system in the Gears games

Plus they just announced a new Gears of War game!

A PREQUEL

[stoic mantle]

oh no

[somber axle]

FENIX IS BACK BABY

[stoic mantle]

remember the last prequel they made?

[rigid pilot]

Another prequel?

[stoic mantle]

the baird one

[somber axle]

I didn't like Baird tbh

I like Fenix

[midnight totem]

They do though!

[somber axle]

And the trope of Carmine getting killed every single game

[stoic mantle]

false!

fake news!

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/benjamin-carmine-heart-gears-of-war-gif-25317772

[stoic mantle]

Clayton carmine lived!

Carmine lived so that dom may die

[midnight totem]

If they were in 40k

[stoic mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/dom-gears-gears-of-war-gears-sad-gears-sad-gif-16550587

[midnight totem]

The Carmines would all be Lamenters

[somber axle]

Here is where you learn I only played up to Gears of War 2 and really only played it because my best friend had the game and wanted me to play with him

But I did really love Gears of War 1 and 2

[stoic mantle]

Gears 3 was the best of the series imo

that horde mode was absolutely peak

[somber axle]

Maybe one day I will go back and play all of the Gears games

At least the first three

[midnight totem]

I'm vaguely annoyed the Carmines continued to die after Clayton

[stoic mantle]

and I loved the emulsion enemies

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/clayton-walking-gif-21522458

Clayton as a name just makes me think of this dude

[midnight totem]

Heh

[somber axle]

I just remember one segment being a horror game out of nowhere

I don't remember what it was

[midnight totem]

But yes, the Carmines would be Lamenter Space Marines in 40k

[somber axle]

But it was dark and there were glowy monsters speeding around and roaring

[stoic mantle]

oh playing the max difficulty challenge campaign every section with tickers was a horror game

[somber axle]

I kinda sucked at games as a kid so like I would just die over and over to the exploding crossbow locusts

[stoic mantle]

Tickers were only bad cause on the max difficulty they would 1 shot you if you were in their blast radius at all

[somber axle]

Sniper alley Halo 2 Jackals ruined me while my friend watched and laughed on co-op too

https://tenor.com/view/jackal-sniper-gif-22878703

[stoic mantle]

Boomers are also the stuff of absolute nightmares

they were the bane of my existence

deadly accurate and 1 shot kill if they got anywhere near you

[somber axle]

The best kind of difficulty

Punish any little mistake

With instant death

[stoic mantle]

Instant highly punishing death

Think LASO

[midnight totem]

You know, I'd make an additional difficulty for darktide

Give enemies heresy levels of health except bosses

Change their ai and attack damage, crank it higher

Snipers move and shoot faster

[stoic mantle]

flashbacks to auric laser light shows

[midnight totem]

Bombers throw more

[stoic mantle]

NO

Bombers can already throw through fucking walls

[midnight totem]

All mutants act as if they're permanently on tox

[mortal orbit]

This game

Fucking A

Oddly enough on my vet i keep getting wound curios

[somber axle]

I want Bombers of both kinds having a higher spawn rate. I want 3 Bombers and 3 Tox Bombers all throwing with reduced CD between throws. Turn on the Halo Catch skull. Call the mission modifier "Oops All Grenades!"

[midnight totem]

Fun fact. This system is from Vermintide. But in a backwards manner

Originally in Vermintide, if you picked up a downed ally and got hit, you got interrupted

Until players learned if you held guard with your melee out you could block hits as you were reviving

[somber axle]

That's neat

[midnight totem]

Naturally, this was a bug

But they kept it

[somber axle]

Disable Darktide blocking if someone goes to revive a team mate while having their ranged weapon equipped

[midnight totem]

And in Darktide I guess they were like "Well fuck it, automatic block nomatter what weapon you're holding"

[somber axle]

Don't put it in patch notes or anything

Let players figure it out

[midnight totem]

I still instinctively pull out my melee and hold block when reviving

Yes! Let them figure it out. Like with the spinning fan blades too xD

[flat crypt]

I like to run max height so i can shoot over everyone else

[severe gale]

it’s a good habit to have for when you finish the revive, so you keep blocking

[somber axle]

I like to fight in front of everyone so min height helps me be less in the way

[midnight totem]

More like

[flat crypt]

match made in heaven ❤️

[midnight totem]

God, that stealth vet ran off again, cosplaying a knife zealot

Can't see her

-determinedly looks over the clown's head-

[somber axle]

I am too sneaky

Even when I'm next to my squad people think I have run off and tell me to stay near them

[midnight totem]

Short life

I'll get you a box, so you can stab the crushers in the head

[somber axle]

If they release Ratling Sniper I'll make them min height and exclusively play them with high cleave weapons because suddenly everyone is an Ogryn

[flat crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-killer-gif-6118842

[umbral cloud]

First it was being able to execute downed allies and now it’s removing auto block on revive… why do you hate us 😭

[somber axle]

I would still save everyone no matter how difficult. I probably would never execute anyone even in retaliation from being executed first. But I revel in chaos and I would love watching everyone destroy each other while enjoying popcorn

[midnight totem]

The modding community is amazing for this game

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1048318548180738118/1251326334253404201/bonk.mp4?ex=667b5af6&is=667a0976&hm=d6bc482219403cef65260824c567e4e5d01f43b361ead7e04c44d642c186b3f8&

Look at this

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-boink-scout-baseball-bat-gif-18381898

[topaz lance]

I wonder what made them not nerf the plasma gun for this update.

[pearl granite]

have the game updated yet? 😄

[topaz lance]

Na, but a playtester mentioned this.

[junior needle]

Let me guess

recons not buffed

[hidden torrent]

Imo plasma doesn't need a nerf but rebalance, it should be more niche than it is

[junior needle]

Probably nerfed

[hidden torrent]

Sometimes we get a new map and sometimes recon gets nerfed

Players bored from lack of content and mad that it took 3 years to soon tm, fix the awful crafting? Quick someone nerf recon

[topaz lance]

All hearsay at this point of course but apparently they've been reworked somehow.

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

Was this hearsay from a streamer with early access

or conjecture from randos

[topaz lance]

Yes, Telepots

Who is a very annoying person but had access to the weapons as far as I know

[junior needle]

My years of bitching about them have finally paid off (supposedly)

God I hate the obesefish

Also jesus christ, no wonder they scrapped this. What a god awful system.

"You want the good stuff on your weapon? Go do a bunch of tedious BS challenges for each one."

[topaz lance]

Hm I'd assume that this would be per weapon mark right?
Per weapon is excessive.

[severe gale]

whats this from?

[topaz lance]

Per weapon mark could be fun if it also gives you penance points, mats, ordo dockets etc.

[pseudo fiber]

This is from a leak of (as always) debatable authenticity

[junior needle]

https://new.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1dnv512/fatshark_is_hiding_the_itemization_update_from_us/

Not a leak, it's from a spanish gaming site

[severe gale]

ah

[junior needle]

https://www.3djuegos.com/juegos/warhammer-40000-darktide/noticias/uno-grandes-juegos-warhammer-40k-esta-game-pass-manana-estrena-contenido-nuevo-eso-no-todo-he-visto-futuro-darktide-prometedor

[severe gale]

wow

that seems

awful

who thought that would be a good idea?

[frank ether]

feels like an elaborate bait lmao

[severe gale]

yeahhh

[pseudo fiber]

I think the reddit title is funny

[rigid pilot]

Did fatshark put out any statement yet?

First comment seems to mention it

[junior needle]

Take a look at the article itself

[junior needle]

I highly, highly doubt someone would make a whole ass website just to troll fatshark

This is their youtube

[rigid pilot]

It's like a mishmash or old/outdated and conceptual ideas with a healthy dose of misunderstanding

Who did they even interview though

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah fatshark does to random ass interviews.

[junior needle]

That's a lot of subscribers and videos just for a prank on obesefish

[pseudo fiber]

I remember before the talent rework I saw some no name site say all the new abilities and I was like "Noone else gets this?"

[frank ether]

the images look almost AI generated to my eyes

like why are there 6 cleave damage on that dueling sword

9 million diamantine ???

[severe gale]

well thats just for testing accounts

[junior needle]

placeholder ui

[severe gale]

maybe it was a weird attempt to make stats a bit clearer??

idk

[junior needle]

It very well could be ai generated

[severe gale]

im just trying 2 rationalize

[frank ether]

9999 9999 9999 cost

I mean its like, possible in a sense they considered this system

because we know it was bad enough that they scrapped it

[rigid pilot]

How is reddit just eating it up like it's real gosh

Never go to darktide reddit

[frank ether]

didn't they scrap whatever they planned anyway

I sleep

[pseudo fiber]

Nah just working on it more

[frank ether]

well if I have to go do penances instead of playing gacha on hadron slot machine

then I'll go do that

except I have a feeling gacha is not going anywhere

[junior needle]

It is real, it's published on a real gaming website

[frank ether]

I guess if it takes away needing like 2m ordo for a decent gray roll that would still be an improvement over current system

[junior needle]

If you want to know why fatshark decided to scrap their system, this is why

People would've HATED it

It also kept the locks

[frank ether]

lmao

o yep

[stiff glacier]

Once im done with my holiday trip i need to get the boltpistol asap

[frank ether]

now that I think on this for a moment it feels more legitimate

[junior needle]

They would've got absolutely roasted as fuck for this

[frank ether]

this is definitely what fatshark would do

[junior needle]

What part of published on a large spanish gaming website is getting lost

It's actually real

[frank ether]

I've seen TV news put arma 3 gameplay as military operation

[rigid pilot]

Who did they interview though, what is "some devs"

I'm not doubting the legitimacy of the website, but of the article

[frank ether]

who cares man, its scrapped

[junior needle]

Why would a large legitimate website go through the effort of publishing a fake article about fatshark

[rigid pilot]

If they had the actual director and not some random QA guy they would have just stated it

It's not just black and white

[frank ether]

you're getting recon buffs in a few hours and instead choose to focus on some google translated article about fatshark crafting brainrot

[junior needle]

I'll believe it when I see it

And I fully expect them to still be shit

Remember this lesson well

[frank ether]

recon to me will always be unplayable without view model tweaks over how dogwater its irons are

[junior needle]

Is the designer and executive producer for the game sufficient?

[frank ether]

but other than that I don't see how it could possibly get worse

I dont expect it to do anything special

[junior needle]

"But this large gaming website could've just interviewed the fatshark janitor"

"You can't know that it's real"

[pearl granite]

ew. I don't even bother with the current penances, and absolutely won't care about this new system. thankfully they scraped it...

[frank ether]

my tinfoil hat take is that it would be cool if we had weapon customization system

like do a penance earn a weapon part etc

hard to get excited about fucking numbers though

this is what fatshark doesn't get

dude I do not play your game for numba go up

[rigid pilot]

Who the hell is Juan Martinez

[junior needle]

I don’t wanna do gimmick achievements for progression

Executive producer of the game apparently

[pseudo fiber]

Someone open the credits

[junior needle]

Also to note

The fatfish team has been reorganized since release

[rigid pilot]

Ok nvm I found him, worked 1 year on DT

[junior needle]

Apparently one of the combat designers left after 8 years at fatshark

A bunch of them are now working in different companies, according to a guy who stalked a bunch of linkedins

[frank ether]

these weapons you're getting are stuff sitting in game files for years, correct

Either way I'm looking forward to the funny stun baton

[stiff glacier]

Is maul also for vet

[frank ether]

If it isn't there isn't a single working head at fatshark

[subtle kettle]

Yeah, vet gets it

[stiff glacier]

Cool

I can continue avoiding zealot

[subtle kettle]

Everything goes to everyone except the pickaxes, those only go to ogryns

[frank ether]

the mauls look a lot more interesting than fold shovels

fold shovels I was originally excited for but their gameplay is just lame

the standard shovel is the only socially acceptable shovel

[rigid pilot]

Fold shovels are quite one dimensional

But so are most weapons

[frank ether]

they are gimmick weapons but the gimmick isn't all that fun

[rigid pilot]

With thrust and perks you can oneshot crushers it's funny

[woeful ibex]

wait

is the article legit or outdated?

[austere mica]

Great question

[stiff glacier]

Foldable ogryn shovel is nice but it feels to overshadow other melee choices

[austere mica]

Just don’t trust it for the meantime

[crimson pebble]

They doing some sort of nerf to bm for the shovels iv been told

[frank ether]

that involves ogryns

vet shovels do not get BM

[frank ether]

and truth to be told

[woeful ibex]

yeah

[frank ether]

ogy shovels have been so stupid if I talked honestly about it a mod would probably remove me from the server

haha yes press this button to nuke the entire crusher pack

[woeful ibex]

I'll try telling friends if they see it, its outdated interview or obscure

[crimson pebble]

They had it coming

[woeful ibex]

given we don't have any other sites mentioned it

[rigid pilot]

Its probably real but outdated yea

Not really an info piece but more like a vibe piece

[frank ether]

like crying about certain nerfs should be socially unacceptable behavior

[woeful ibex]

yeah and Reminded me of Space Marine 2 devs have very obscure interviews from not very big news outlets last year

[crimson pebble]

The only nerf i wept for was when they buffed grenade gauntlet then half a month later sent it back to hell

[frank ether]

If the patch gets plas nerfed there will be another wave of crying veteran mains

[rigid pilot]

Usually crying players do get things done

If the game is a gacha game

[frank ether]

don't understand why they nerf melee interaction on GG/helbore

thats like a nerf to fun, its different

well except limbsplitter bayonet

that shit was dumb

[crimson pebble]

Tbh helbores still p good gg still usable but not nearly as good anymore

[frank ether]

the problem I have with helbores is like

they are fine with em having infinite ammo

but somehow bayonet being usable is a problem in their eyes

[crimson pebble]

Id use helbore a lot more if it didnt have that little animation every time you pull it out

[frank ether]

Idk I'm not a warhammer lore nerd

[rigid pilot]

Meanwhile team ninja made a whole bayonet melee moveset in an action game

[frank ether]

I guess stabby bayo is still serviceable if you get a rager or dog in your face

I think it still staggers them too

its the hb3 bayo that kinda got killed for the sins of stabby bayo

[crimson pebble]

I tried the slash one once and it was not gamer

[rigid pilot]

Slash one is blegh

[frank ether]

It was aight before the melee blessing nerfs

its really wack baseline though which is apparent now

with BM you could do some melee drag tech

and have it cleave poxies fine

[sturdy zephyr]

So someone gonna share supershotgun build already?

[junior needle]

Oh the article is very legit. It's likely showing what we would've gotten if fatshark didn't wise up to the fact that people would've hated this.

[white minnow]

well they did have playtesters and flat out said early on that it was subject to changebased on whether the playtesters liked it or not

seems like hating for the sake of hating given that they aren't going to use this system anyways

[somber axle]

Recons were buffed

A screenshot seems to imply they were given a buff to clip size. Not just a tiny buff to clip size. Double the clip size. A clip of 178 ammo is wild to consider LOL

[austere mica]

Actual lmg now, cool

[junior needle]

If it's only mag size and nothing else

It's a nothingburger

[somber axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1254950095779008624/image.png?ex=667b5ada&is=667a095a&hm=5b2d84f47c1bc956ea952cda85055e7c7f1998fca568a05ce54910a25a192a63&

Not a nothingburger

This would be a hilarious way of buffing them

With Shock Trooper and crit builds you can just fire forever

No other gun could even come close to the length of fire between reloads

I already get probably the longest sustained volleys of any gun in the Vet arsenal

Something people forget

Guns that fire bullets run out of bullets and need to be reloaded

But Shock Trooper keeps the Lasguns firing longer

Supposedly Executioner's Stance was also buffed

It no longer turns off automatically when you swap to melee

allowing you to swap melee, kill that annoying poxwalker, then swap back ranged and kill a highlighted target to refresh duration

But we'll see the total list of buffs soon

Someone also mentioned that Plasma went untouched

which is curious

but it could just be that it was nerfed in a way playtesters didn't notice

or maybe it really did avoid the nerfbat for another patch cycle

[junior needle]

They have an extremely short reload

It is

a nothingburger with no other changes

[somber axle]

while you're reloading on other guns, I'm still firing

after you've fired two clips and gone through two reloads I'm still firing

when you've hit your third reload I might be reloading too

[junior needle]

That would be the single worst possible way to buff them

There's no increase in ammo efficiency with a mag size increase alone

Please