What you refer to as fine without the funny build is comparatively very bad 
#veteran-class
junior needle
somber axle
And these little strudel things
junior needle
I'll have you know I panic in a moderate amount
somber axle
I'll have you know I panic in a moderate amount
This is paradise in Atoma. Grab a chair, a pina corpsestarchlada and enjoy the view of the smoke plumes rising from the battlefields
junior needle
This is paradise in Atoma. Grab a chair, a pina corpsestarchlada and enjoy the v...
Could've fooled me, I thought this was a ded game
short wigeon
any chainsword users here that can quickly tell me what its dump stats might be?
junior needle
Nah not dead
I said the game, not you
somber axle
any chainsword users here that can quickly tell me what its dump stats might be?
Mobility
junior needle
Shredder is the least important damage stat, mobility you want up to 51% for the extra dodge
somber axle
I said the game, not you
I know. As long as we are all here playing, the game is still alive
junior needle
Shredder only applies to special attacks
short wigeon
bet
somber axle
Shredder is very funny for Rev attacks into bosses though
somber axle
last parcel
:3
last parcel
https://tenor.com/view/evil-dead-evil-dead-the-game-bruce-campbell-ash-williams-...
yanking the chainaxe out the beast of nurgle like beyblade anal beads
junior needle
At least the elden ring dlc will alleviate my boredom so I don't have little better to do than go "akshually" about recons ad nauseum
somber axle
Dawntrail is coming soon too
somber axle
I still want to stick around to see the Boltpistols before I fall hard into FF14 again
tiny summit
I finished ARR. I need to get back into it
somber axle
Until this upcoming Darktide update nerfs recon again <:whatthefuck_heresy:10497...
Nerf me more. Keep nerfing me until my gun heals poxwalkers
tiny summit
yanking the chainaxe out the beast of nurgle like beyblade anal beads
Chainwhip but all the links are razor bladed beyblades
somber axle
yanking the chainaxe out the beast of nurgle like beyblade anal beads
This caused me mental pain to think about
frank ether
Until this upcoming Darktide update nerfs recon again <:whatthefuck_heresy:10497...
I hear murmur about crit strings getting nuked so total r*con death maybe? lmao
somber axle
tiny summit
last parcel
somber axle
Loss of crit strings probably isn't going to bother me LOL
tiny summit
deleted recon
somber axle
It has a crit string of 2. Crit strings being removed is probably going to matter less to the Recons than it will the Columnus Infantry Autogun tbh
short wigeon
Put in a hotshot volley gun
A man can dream
tiny summit
Would be as funny to me as when dota 2 removed poor mans shield
last parcel
hotshit volley gun: spewing diarrhea
junior needle
Make it have a heat system instead of ammo
tiny summit
hotshit volley gun: spewing diarrhea
Every shot causing self corruption
junior needle
So the pox shooters can hose poxes and not drag down the ammo supply for everyone else
Even if it's as bad as the current recons it's an overall benefit to the game
tiny summit
But they just updated the ammo aura so theres less free ammo
Fatshark just write in the patch notes "deleted scavenger"
somber axle
Make Hotshot guns have a heat system but it just causes HP damage to continue to fire them at max heat instead of outright exploding and if you hit the special action button at max heat instead of venting you withdraw the fiery red glowing clip and throw it into a horde grenade style to explode after a short delay
last parcel
Make Hotshot guns have a heat system but it just causes HP damage to continue to...
gonna use it to hoover the medicae 
junior needle
It's the barrel that overheats on lasguns, not the battery pack
tiny summit
Have it be the one grenade that can blow up in your hand. Itd be funny
junior needle
However battery packs can be used as makeshot explosives
somber axle
However battery packs can be used as makeshot explosives
Yes do that
It would be fun to exchange some ammo for a small explosive
tiny summit
Recon users obtaining new levels of mag dumping never seen before
somber axle
You'd be exchanging the whole mag
If it's near empty that sounds like a net positive imo
junior needle
Hotshots are also typically backpack battery powered
somber axle
Hotshots are also typically backpack battery powered
We'll never get backpack weapons
junior needle
So anything that's actually a heat system wouldn't have packs
somber axle
Backpack weapons would conflict with backpack cosmetics
tiny summit
Shoot once. Throw at poxhorde.
Im helping
somber axle
They would never
junior needle
You're probably right but only because fatshark is a bad company prone to making bad decisions
somber axle
It'd be more work to make the weapon and then more work to fix them to hide backpack cosmetics or look extra dumb with a backpack having horrible clipping issues with the backpack weapon
last parcel
make it a fanny pack
feral bay
Backpack weapons would conflict with backpack cosmetics
Could just... disable the back cosmetic for wearing a pack weapon.
somber axle
Make a tiny Ratling follow you and they hold the backpack
junior needle
It'd be more work to make the weapon and then more work to fix them to hide back...
That's absolutely the kind of weenie excuses I expect from fatshark
somber axle
Could just... disable the back cosmetic for wearing a pack weapon.
Disable it just for having the weapon equipped? Or only when the weapon is drawn? Does swapping to melee remove the backpack from the ranged weapon? Does that bring back your backpack cosmetics too? What about when it inevitably bugs out and causes people to be unable to view or use their backpack cosmetics when switching to another gun?
somber axle
That's absolutely the kind of weenie excuses I expect from fatshark
Yes which is why I don't think they'd do it LOL
If I had any hope they'd do the work to, I would be excited for the idea
Not turning my nose up at the mere mention
feral bay
Disable it just for having the weapon equipped? Or only when the weapon is drawn...
I'd imagine for having it in your loadout, it would replace your back cosmetic until swapped off.
Anyway. Sleeptime
somber axle
I'd imagine for having it in your loadout, it would replace your back cosmetic u...
That makes sense and in theory if everyone in management agrees it just means that Fatshark has to design and model the weapon, properly attach it to the player model, record new audio to pair with the shots, decide on what blessings to add to the new weapon class, decide what stats the weapon should have and how they affect performance, run balance testing to make sure the weapon is tuned properly for release and then follow up with QA to squash bugs before it goes live. None of those things are as simple as they sound on the surface and there's probably more involved than this touches on
They're already rolling out some new weapons that are not just variants of old weapons so we're going to see how well they managed prepping them for release soon
I'm sure they will be broken but I'm hoping the weapons end up broken in the fun direction before they attempt to fix them
Boltpistol stronger than Boltgun please
It would be SO funny
OH I FORGOT
Animations team for designing how the weapon looks when idle, when firing, when reloading, what action it does for the special, how it looks when drawing the weapon, etc.
And the hardest part of the process is probably just trying to get management to agree on something
somber axle
We've run out of management team members and no one is left but the janitor but they think the Hotshot gun is cool
faint beacon
Make Hotshot guns have a heat system but it just causes HP damage to continue to...
I mean thats just a dangerous but standard issue trick Vets do where they overcharge any lasgun pack and just throw it as an Improvised Grenade
Honestly would love to have some gun in the game do that
somber axle
And then add lines by Hadron threatening to execute any reject she finds out detonated a lasgun battery pack, and a concerned Zola saying she will talk to the rejects about it
faint beacon
The omnissiah forbids it
I'd honestly Enjoy the Stubber and Helgun though to eventually be added, yeah thats kind of the Ogryns role and all to just be hose down area, but I do enjoy the concept of having it for suppression sake or chipping sake with onslaught as a talent
Stubber being the one the Dreg Gunner uses
It should have a chance to Jam I think that would be funny
somber axle
Vet has braced autoguns, infantry autoguns, recons and the shredder autopistol so it is probably fine to give the Vet a ranged weapon that continues down that line of spray and pray
None of those weapons infringe on the Ogryn doing it
faint beacon
I mean we're eventually getting more Sharpshooter esc weapons
somber axle
Longlas please
faint beacon
so It wouldn't hurt getting more Spraying weapons
somber axle
I beg
faint beacon
I dont want to say cause im unsure if Data mining is at all allowed in here
if not I will remain silent
somber axle
I shared data mine stuff and I didn't get in trouble
Either a mod didn't notice or they don't care
tiny summit
People post datamined shit. We see the double barrel all the time
faint beacon
Well so far There's a Stub Rifle and a Longlas
so like teehee
I would probably use the Stub Rifle tbh
somber axle
Yes 😩
somber axle
Rogue Trader has a flame pistol so maybe somewhere down the road Fatshark can give Zealots the flame pistol here too
somber axle
The only "Sniper" we have
But my Helbores!
faint beacon
Im going to make it useable
faint beacon
But my Helbores!
I keep forgetting about them
cause I never use them lmao
they're good! just not my cup of tea
faint beacon
Reminding me to see if I can throw together my Homebrew Regiment with "For The Drip"
It's totally possible they're similar to DKOK and SL I just have to tweak with coats
I could give a super basic TL:DR cause I do not want to flood this channel with useless info lmao
somber axle
40k as a universe is so massive and with varying levels of tech that you could probably make a homebrew regiment comprised mainly of pike and shot formations in the style of Warhammer Fantasy and still not get any weird looks when people in medieval armour show up on the battlefield with lasguns
faint beacon
You know honestly that would go hard as fuck
midnight totem
midnight totem
I'd let her greatsword me
faint beacon
Honestly I haven't drawn in a while and could use the homebrew regiment as an excuse to slowly get back into it, Selferius Acid Waders is what I called them, they Hail from a Death Planet that's basically Venus, constantly raining extremely corrosive Acid, but they Specialize in Chemical Warfare mainly using Acid as a weapon
somber axle
I want a fancy hat with a fancy feather
somber axle
Honestly I haven't drawn in a while and could use the homebrew regiment as an ex...
NEAT
Acid is wild for warfare
faint beacon
Selferius is the Planet, extremely Mountainous, usually lower divets and the likes are refered to as "Acid Lakes" or "Acid Oceans" cause the Acid tends to build up in them
somber axle
Just melt a dude
faint beacon
If you hail from Selferius you're borderline an Abhuman, mainly just cause they've slightly adapated to the environment
I say slightly cause going outside without a kit is death
midnight totem
You know, I read a 40k comic with a similar concept
Kal Jerico was hunting a bounty in the Underhive
faint beacon
I literally just started spitballing with my friend Earlier today after she told me about her homebrew and I went "Fuck it acid warfare"
somber axle
Wait
midnight totem
This underhive section was prone to acid falls
midnight totem
Where hundreds of tons of corrosive acid waste was poured down into the section
And the people there made a living mining shit out of the acid waste
midnight totem
If you were caught outside during a dump
faint beacon
This underhive section was prone to acid falls
So, I had to clarify with her cause she's far more of a nerd than I am with 40k lore, I asked if it would make sense on Such a corrosive planet for the typical Hive structure to be reversed, Poor on the top, Wealthy near the lower sections, I can explain if you're curious why im reversing it cause there's a pretty big reason to it
midnight totem
Your acid treated cloak would only last ten seconds at best
faint beacon
Basically the shields tend to malfunction, frequently...
that and the Acid sometimes just gets through
so the poor simply have to suffer the brunt of the acid storms
somber axle
Imagine if tyranids made it there and ate the acid resistant wildlife, accidentally giving themselves acid blood
midnight totem
So, I had to clarify with her cause she's far more of a nerd than I am with 40k ...
It would be possible, but relatively unlikely because a few points of the wealthy being near the top is easier access to orbital stuff
somber axle
midnight totem
Imagine if tyranids made it there and ate the acid resistant wildlife, accidenta...
Accidently. More intentionally
wide pike
I think I could take one
faint beacon
It would be possible, but relatively unlikely because a few points of the wealth...
I could probably throw something together for it mainly cause they survive more effectively off of being deeper underground to obviously get away from the Acid
wide pike
Ez clap
faint beacon
its basically mandatory you wear goggles anywhere near the surface of the hive cause of the Acidic Vapors or you suffer this wacky thing called
Acid Eye
which is literally melting your eyes out of your sockets
We love Death Worlds!
somber axle
Accidently. More intentionally
faint beacon
I made the Regiments Design very much based off of Military Chem Suits combined with the obvious 40k Outfits and the likes, I'll have to eventually draw a sketch of it sometime and toss it in Fanart
midnight totem
One of my favorite lore blurbs was when
The Death Guard and Tyranids engaged in bio warfare
faint beacon
Acid Fire! Its a thing!
midnight totem
Eventually the whole planet was turned into a toxic sludge wasteland
faint beacon
Minimal Casualties for the DKOK
midnight totem
When the first tyranid bioship took a sip of it, it died and the rest of the nids fucked off
faint beacon
Oh I forgot to go on about the changes some of the people go through there, Their skin is a bit more Jaundiced looking seeing its from the Acid and they have raspy voices from the atmosphere, people who are sent to Selferius to work tend to die cause the rebreathers are so poor its usually you survive by sheer like or have your lungs burn to a crisp
faint beacon
It has lacerate im so sorry
fair topaz
any modifiers i should look for on a combat knife?
faint beacon
Uncanny is mandatory
last parcel
just got my first combat knife ~323 with lacerate. this worth running?
knife gets a lot of damage from hitting heads. lacerate does not make up for this
you can try running it and just pretend lacerate doesn't exist i guess
faint beacon
At lvl 21 you should attempt Heresy
it makes it easier to put yourself into Damnation later
fair topaz
with this knife tho?
fair topaz
the last heresy i ran i got overrun by about 70 melee
faint beacon
once you do it really doesn't matter what gets put into your hand
junior needle
Lacerate bad
faint beacon
If you dodge frequently in hordes and understand how to reset your dodges by pushing and not sprinting
midnight totem
faint beacon
you should very easily adjust into Heresy/Damnation
fair topaz
hit hit hit block push hit hit hit push
faint beacon
and afterwards you need to push
Knives are very mobile
give you a lot of dodges
What Variant of the Knife is it
fair topaz
hit x 5, then dodge or block
faint beacon
MK6 or MK3
fair topaz
like this?
faint beacon
You should constantly be attacking
fair topaz
catachan mkvi
faint beacon
But basically if you see any enemy in your peripheral or hear the melee wind sfx
junior needle
The 6 is best used for its sweeping heavies
faint beacon
dodge
junior needle
The mk3 has objectively the best light attacks if you want to light spam
faint beacon
just keep dodging the moment you see them prepare any swing
the moment you know you're low on dodges push
and dont sprint and you'll get your dodges back
rinse repeat
Should be able to do heresy and damnation once you get that down
fair topaz
ok i'll give knife a go on heresy
faint beacon
also
fair topaz
i'm running around 320 weaponry
faint beacon
Slide Dodging and Sliding
fair topaz
good enouhg?
faint beacon
yeah thats effective
fair topaz
enough?
faint beacon
for now at least
junior needle
The pushes on the knife come out very quickly so it's very easy to weave them into attacks
I also STRONGLY recommend binding your dodge to your side mouse button
faint beacon
Slide Dodging and Sliding
But this, if literally any heretic with a gun even remotely tries to shoot you do them
easy way to avoid being shot
fair topaz
i have a two button mouse
faint beacon
Though Slide Dodging eats 2 effective Dodges so be careful
faint beacon
i have a two button mouse
Imo cause I enjoy it, I binded one of the side mouses to dodge
it will be your best friend
you will hit it a LOT
fair topaz
i dodge backwards mainly if i dodge
faint beacon
You tend to want to dodge to the side more
but backwards is good when you're surrounded
junior needle
i have a two button mouse
Strongly recommending picking up one with 2 side buttons, it'll change your life. You can find cheap ones pretty easy on amazon.
Just a matter of what mouse shape you want
fair topaz
i don't mind spending on a new laptop and mouse
but cash flow is issue right now
that's 3-6 months from now
money that tight at the moment
to frame it, $5 is a huge expense right now.
i'm in between jobs
junior needle
Although when you do upgrade, I recommend not buying a laptop for gaming purposes
fair topaz
logitech m550
it will have to do @junior needle
laptop gives me mobility, i don't even have my own place right now
looking at what i'll be running, space marine 2, mechwarrior online, darktide, possible a star wars game like outlaws
it should be fine for now, and anything higher end grapihcs i'll need to run on geforcenow like i am now
so i'll run it with the knife and see if it's a playstyle i like
drowsy aspen
ok i'll give knife a go on heresy
I want to say - don't push yourself to do Heresy if it's entirely too tough for where you're at
fair topaz
the main thing with heresey is i ran out of rifle ammo
and the melee hordes were unending
drowsy aspen
Be ambitious, but don't bang your head into the wall forever
Yea Heresy can feel like a lot at that level
somber axle
I also STRONGLY recommend binding your dodge to your side mouse button
Space bar dodge for accidentally jumping when you meant to dodge
limpid ore
There's an always dodge option to avoid that iirc
But yeah if you spam space you'll jump between dodge cooldowns
drowsy aspen
Early Heresy does feel real good though
fair topaz
i don't like the feeling of dodging too much. i'd rather block or straight out run
the movement is so small for dodge
although last game i did a light swing with combat axe, overhead and hit a charging brute and killed it
dodge might be helpful for those charging brutes
drowsy aspen
Dodging is great- oh totally dodge is 100% the play for muties
dodge is like the most important thing - especially for shooters
fair topaz
i mean, are people on a controller? how to dodge that effectively
drowsy aspen
Oh I'm not on controller - if dodge is really poorly bound-
...
huh
interesting
I have a buddy on controller who also hates dodging
fair topaz
guess it's being light on the movement keys not spamming w
i'd think dodge would be easier with a dodge button
controller you would already be moving by stick direction
but that sacrifices rifle aim
ok, i'll try heresy with the knife let's see
people saying it's doable, if it's totally not i'll let you know. get feeling knife is ultra fast swings maybe helpful
knife is fast, i can see people liking this. i'd rather use a power weapon instead of spamming attacks though
it ended at the first red bar boss (4/heresy)
i got surrounded and knifed my way out, so it's definitely good. before with a power weapon i'd have to block push and fight my way out instead of spamming out
but i found myself concentrating on clicking mouse and where i was targetting too much with knife, not monitoring toughness bar
chainaxe any good?
i have a chainaxe with thrust i on it
this worth trying? i read something about thrust being a good blessing
white minnow
something to keep in mind about dodges is that it gives i-frames against ranged attacks, and it gives something similar to i-frames for melee attacks except that it also checks for distance
against melee attacks, if you're too close, you'll still get hit
so, dodge distance doesn't really matter as long as you're not right up to them, and it's a matter of timing (or you can just spam it)
fair topaz
melee range is really distant. i can hit them at what seems like 10m away because movement of them forward and me forward
it always gets bad when i can see them up close. Voice of command helps a LOT
flat crypt
chainaxe any good?
It's a very good tool against bigger enemies. When it comes to Thrust you can already one shot crushers with the special attack even without it so it's more of a anti-boss/monster blessings at least for me. Also with Mk IV and it's horizontal heavy spam Thrust helps a lot with it's otherwise average horde clear 🤔
fair topaz
chainaxe kills everything on one hit it's awesome
heavy chainaxe is a horizontal swing?
pretty sure i still like power sword for handling hordes so far
i mean heavy attack
last parcel
heavy chainaxe is a horizontal swing?
for Mk IV, Mk XII is vertical
mk iv is more diagonal than horizontal imo
fair topaz
i had a mk iv chainaxe
heresy i noticed that the wounds were reduced from normal by 2
a lot of players in it running around with 2 wounds only
a lot of players looking to power level. level 3 in heresy type stuff
flat crypt
mk iv is more diagonal than horizontal imo
True. It's not a weakspot hit machine but you can hit multiple targets in front of you with it unlike with Mk XII's vertical heavies
grand perch
I also STRONGLY recommend binding your dodge to your side mouse button
Cries in being left handed with a right handed mouse
brave verge
I got Mercy Killer on my knife, so I took Serrated Blade instead of Agile Engagement. Really like that talent though. Should I drop Surprise Attack for it?
agile forge
a lot of players in it running around with 2 wounds only
That is typically optimal
You only want more wounds if you go martyrdom zealot (or are an ogryn since you get an extra wound as standard)
fair topaz
just clarifying i meant they had 2 wounds total, not running 2 wounds on curios
agile forge
Yeah, that's what I'm saying
graceful sundial
Anyone got suggestions on how to make a Lucius MK2 work?
agile forge
The higher the difficulty you go, the less you can afford to be going down multiple times per med station anyway
Also fewer wounds = bigger heals from med stimms
fair topaz
I’ll give it a try boost toughness and health instead
junior needle
Anyone got suggestions on how to make a Lucius MK2 work?
It's basically an infantry las but better at armor pen. Surgical and then typically weight of fire. The stabby bayonets are actually pretty good melee weapons. You want +unarmored perk on it for dreg shooter one taps.
brave verge
2 health 1 toughness is the usual I think
coral willow
2 health 1 toughness is the usual I think
3 toughness is also funnny
junior needle
I like 3 toughness on my shroudfield zealot
agile forge
2 health 1 toughness is the usual I think
I see 3 toughness more tbh
coral willow
thh is solid tbh
agile forge
Veteran gets Iron Will synergy from it
Ogryn gets the typical sick ogryn toughness synergy
coral willow
if you get like 150 toughness with decent TDR skills you definitely have more leeway
coral willow
Ogryn gets the typical sick ogryn toughness synergy
what does he get
agile forge
All of the heavy attack toughness regen talents
all of the toughness damage reduction
like the more tdr you have, the more toughness does for you and the more you want toughness
coral willow
does that actually buff the toughness regen from heavys
agile forge
Yes.
agile forge
All of those regen things scale with the toughness bar
agile forge
Like I can see Psyker wanting a health curio
specifically to resist poxburster death
but you can probably do with a corruption resistance curio or two for it
apart from that I think toughness is just flat out better right now
ever since the fire nerf
There's not that many things that zero your toughness these days, that can't be reliably avoided
except for the funny poxburster double tap to death
iron marten
except for the funny poxburster double tap to death
Moments like these are times I wish I had VoC lmao
faint beacon
Triple Poxbursters maybe even more if its Maelstrom
coral willow
wouund curio kek
faint beacon
Late night darktide makes me so depressed at times man
I joined to getting pounced by a hound
I died to said hound
somber axle
Anyone got suggestions on how to make a Lucius MK2 work?
High Damage, Stopping Power and Charge Rate if you can help it. Stability and Mobility are dump stats. If you use Executioner's Stance with the Relentless node for 5 sec refresh on highlight target kill + Focus Fire with Redirect Fire node you can skip both Maniac and Unarmoured perks on a Helbore Mk II because you will hit both 1HKO breakpoints. Grabbing that ability and keystone frees you up to grab Carapace instead which drops your total number of shots per Crusher down from 5-7 shots to 2-4 shots depending on how many damage talents you stack with it like Marksman, For the Emperor, Close Quarters Kill Zone, Longshot, etc. If you prefer Voice of Command or Infiltrate pick up Unarmoured and Maniac to get both 1HKOs
junior needle
Just don't play darktide
somber axle
If getting a Mk II Helbore with good stats and the right perks/blessings is tricky then grab the Mk I Helbore instead. The Mk I Helbore has an easier time hitting breakpoints for a slower fire rate
Personally I love the Mk II Helbore because if you get a high charge rate stat and pair it with Weight of Fire you get some very speedy charged shots
TTK on multiple Crushers is insane when you can 2 tap heads and charge rate is maxed out with 5 stack Weight of Fire
Also to explain
Maniac is needed for 1HKO on Flamers
junior needle
Note that glass cannon exe builds are generally unpopular for a reason
somber axle
Unarmoured is needed for 1HKO on Dreg Gunners
somber axle
Note that glass cannon exe builds are generally unpopular for a reason
You gotta stop calling anything not using Voice of Command glass cannon because you're beginning to look sillier than me when you do it. You can absolutely afford Exe Stance and Focus Target while still getting Close Quarters Drill, Iron Will and Confirmed Kill. That isn't glass cannon at all and you still have points for nade regen too
You get solid toughness damage reduction, solid toughness regen and solid damage
You only miss out on gold toughness/aoe stagger
If that single ability is what defines a Vet being normal vs being glass cannon idk what to tell you but like
Dodge more
And if you get Focus Target with Target Down you get even more toughness restore too
And stam
Squadwide as a very strong support tool
Not everyone will use Exe Stance. Some will favour VoC. Using Exe Stance on its own isn't glass cannon
junior needle
You gotta stop calling anything not using Voice of Command glass cannon because ...
That's not the clown shoe special, what've you done with the real sneaky
last parcel
they snuck away
somber axle
That's not the clown shoe special, what've you done with the real sneaky
I'm the evil twin from Krieg
last parcel
ahhh oh no please don't frag your commissar when poxwalkers start rushing you aaaaah
somber axle
LMFAO
sorry if I am rude I got off work stressed and have the munchies for strawberries
junior needle
But yes, you don't have to do glass cannon exe. But regular exe is also unpopular for a reason, the reason being that it's much less gud than overshout.
Which is a constant stupidity buffer for you and your team.
junior needle
It's hard to overstate how useful it is to have in pubs for this reason.
somber axle
Which is a constant stupidity buffer for you and your team.
If they're nothing without Voice of Command, they shouldn't have it
somber axle
If you're nothing without the talent tree and shocktrooper
I'm going to run an empty talent tree with my Mk II Helbore that has 0% damage for you
junior needle
I'm going to run an empty talent tree with my Mk II Helbore that has 0% damage f...
the hb2 is a gud weapon
Use the clown special
But your shoes are filled with lead
somber axle
the hb2 is a gud weapon
Is one with 0% damage a good weapon
What about with Infernus too
junior needle
Probably better baseline than a recon
somber axle
PSH no
junior needle
Now I have to check
junior needle
somber axle
are you gonna make another bet
No because I still owe him from the last one 
junior needle
It's true
graceful sundial
High Damage, Stopping Power and Charge Rate if you can help it. Stability and Mo...
Gotcha, will see later
somber axle
Gotcha, will see later
I can make three separate talent trees for you to try out if you'd like. One with Executioner's Stance, one with Voice of Command and one with Infiltrate
You can pick which ever one you like most
last parcel
make one with fury of the faithful
graceful sundial
I can make three separate talent trees for you to try out if you'd like. One wit...
Probably skip on infiltrate
somber axle
That's fair
I'll make some talent trees and share them in a sec
I'm chopping up some strawberries into more bite sized chunks to snack on
agile forge
Triple Poxbursters maybe even more if its Maelstrom
It only takes 2 to kill a psyker though lmao
faint beacon
killed everyone
last parcel
that's hilarious
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machina collateral sound
faint beacon
Unironically being told by the game to uninstall right now lmao
junior needle
Let's see, 0% damage hb2 gets 742 maniac bodyshot dps with 1 crit
Let me consult my archives
faint beacon
On a seperate note, this shit fucking murders everything
junior needle
This is better dps than all recons on maniacs at gray/talentless
somber axle
I would like the record to show that I have made no bets this time
junior needle
But requires you to sit at the appropriate range because inverse falloff
somber axle
Just bayonet when they're close
somber axle
The 0% damage barely has any change with the bayonet
junior needle
This does so much damage
Like 2800 dps
On mutie heads
1400 on bodyshots
Good lord
Ok the helbore wins
somber axle
Now imagine if you used a Mk II Helbore with 80% damage, 80% stopping power, 80% charge rate, Surgical IV, Weight of Fire IV
junior needle
We're comparing a 0% damage helbore 2 to peak recon performance on a baseline
I'm discovering the bayonet
does a lot of damage
faint beacon
The bayonet is
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mk 2 recon stay winning
faint beacon
pretty fucking funny
somber axle
Put on the Krieg mask
somber axle
AFFIX BAYONETS
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faint beacon
You karkers can, I'll just slam the butt of my stock into their head untill they die
Also is there really a good use for the MKIII's Bayonet?
Seeing its a Slash instead of a quick stab
somber axle
Also is there really a good use for the MKIII's Bayonet?
It has cleave but only a tiny bit iirc
last parcel
it's to make you want to die and join nurgle
junior needle
Na I'm gonna probably keep playing stealth zealot
faint beacon
Interesting
iron marten
Are you gonna put the funny agile engagement on the helbore
last parcel
of course
iron marten
Hell yeah
somber axle
Make a funny melee damage build with Marksman, For the Emperor, Close Quarters Kill Zone, etc. and use your choice of ability idc which. Spawn any boss you want in the Psykanium and then bayonet them to death to see how fast you can kill them
faint beacon
Make a funny melee damage build with Marksman, For the Emperor, Close Quarters K...
Something in me says
use rending strikes
junior needle
The 0 damage hb2 has lower flak damage than perfect recons though
Which is not very surprising
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recon stay winning
junior needle
Make a funny melee damage build with Marksman, For the Emperor, Close Quarters K...
Pretty sure other people have done this already, bosses can die quite fast.
I'd made a macro to spam my special as fast as possible
somber axle
Pretty sure other people have done this already, bosses can die quite fast.
I know but this test isn't for me. I want you to feel how good the bayonet feels
iron marten
FT and Lacerate 😭
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I know but this test isn't for me. I want you to feel how good the bayonet feels
DECEPTION
somber axle
You have to catch me first and I am a master at break dancing through lasgun fire
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somber axle
junior needle
I diagnose you with die
somber axle
I diagnose you with die
I diagnose you with fly
junior needle
Too late, I already knew
somber axle
also wow I was disappointed in this last week's cosmetic rotation
nothing to buy except the Ogryn weapon skin for the twinstubber (still a good skin though)
want something nice to wear that I don't own yet
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become naked
somber axle
only if I can keep the clown shoes on
flat crypt
🤔
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clown shoes are like the commissar cap
they always stay on
hey that kind of sounds like a boltpi
rigid pilot
Boltpee
scarlet vessel
duo'd a hunting ground with smoke vet, smoke so good to hide from gunfire and dogs while we carry the 5 cargo
faint beacon
God this HHA build is disgusting
rigid pilot
Actually in not too sure, smoke seems to work for flamers but maybe it's because they are "ranged"
flat crypt
Doesn't help you against dogs though
In my experience smoke affects dogs so they won't pounce over long distances, they need come very close and they seem to take more time to "aim" so to speak. Same with trappers in smoke, they basically run next to you before firing the net. At least this was the case few months ago 🤔 haven't played with smoke recently
faint beacon
Pox hound packs if you stand in the smoke before they arrive will "attempt" trying to run towards you but wont enter the smoke
its like a sea bear safety circle lmao
flat crypt
oh, even better 😄
faint beacon
Trappers have to barrel stuff to get you
Mutants, literally do not care
they will charge you and grab you
BoN will only start vomitting once they're in your face in smoke
anything with a gun gives up, Shotgunners act similar to Poxhound hordes and just kinda orbit the smoke but refuse to enter
flat crypt
Mutants, literally do not care
Yea, gotta love their idgaf attitude towards pretty much everything xD
feral bay
Mutants are too stupid to care.
flat crypt
Been sometimes on the receiving end even while using infiltrate
shadow dagger
is this too bricked to save
rigid pilot
In my experience smoke affects dogs so they won't pounce over long distances, th...
Yea it seems to affect trappers a little too
flat crypt
is this too bricked to save
i'd change limbsplitter to headtaker or decimator and crit damage to flak 🤔
flat crypt
Yea it seems to affect trappers a little too
i feel like they won't fire the net from outside the smoke
they need to enter which gives more time to react
junior needle
is this too bricked to save
mk2 is like a more particular rashad
You need a particular amount of damage + brutal to reach bruiser one taps with the heavies for what could be considered good clear
You may or may not be able to reach both bruisers with melee juice + headtaker and brutal
If you can't hit the bruiser one taps then I just wouldn't use it
shadow dagger
surely the crafting rework will let me reallocate modifier stats
and the dog ass 380s sitting in my inventories will not go to complete waste
junior needle
Damage as in overall damage, not necessarily the stat
you can possibly still hit it with tree juice but the 2 and 7 taxes are very reliant on brutal for clear
fleet thicket
flat crypt
It's pretty much about personal preference but I'd change maniac -> carapace to dispatch crushers faster 🤔 depending on the build most likely you'll 1-2 shot ragers anyway
agile forge
Or go full anti-boss meme machine on it
since oyu have trickshooter already
slap unyielding on that motherfucker
flat crypt
slap unyielding on that motherfucker
valid option B ☝️
i have both carapace and unyilding on my agri revolver 😁
the things that gun does with full MF stacks+ rending + elite + ogryn/monster damage....❤️
serene bough
This week's emoji is so cool and good im super excited for the update!!!!!!
manic moon
serene bough
happy day, building fire at work and i get to go home early
earnest sand
Does Execution Stance count for Volley Fire penances?
Execution Stance is upgraded version of it
hearty panther
i believe so
uncut pebble
Execution Stance is upgraded version of it
All "enhanced version" tagged skills count for the original skill. Big box of hurt for ogryn (the box that breaks into a cluster bomb) counts for both of the penances involving the stock box, for example.
earnest sand
Tried to kill a Beast of Nurgle with my gun
Got to yellow Ammo
Use melee instead?
hearty panther
shoot the back pimple
uncut pebble
Beasts aren't that big of an issue unless you're dealing with something else that's problematic, then they become about 10x harder to deal with.
Mainly, they're a positioning issue.
Don't bother shooting at it unless you've got sight on the pimple on its back.
thick kestrel
yeah, the biggest issues with monstrosities is that they make everything else a lot more dangerous through their presense and ability to CC the team.
having a chaos spawn turn up at the same time as a pox hound pack is a good example
or a plague ogryn storm in while you're battling a big rager wave
sturdy zephyr
just hate all of them. Bad timing they came really does give a challenge.or stuck on one-way.
sturdy zephyr
Im still looking for dumdum bless for my ciag
pearl granite
wdyt about hellbore?
uncut pebble
I would switch sustained fire with weight of fire and change ranged crit damage to carapace, but that's just me.
Statswise, very solid.
mellow abyss
Sorry to jump in, I downloaded darktide yesterday and I was grinding it, I ended up kinda like the helbore lasgun, but I don’t know how to build around it
vocal cipher
wdyt about hellbore?
Surgical and the right build lets you wreck most human sized enemies
The MK3 does anyway
agile forge
Sorry to jump in, I downloaded darktide yesterday and I was grinding it, I ended...
You want to have an anti-carapace weapon for your melee usually if you take the helbore. I like the shovel 7, and you can never go wrong with a power sword (preferably the 6)
tall torrent
Sorry to jump in, I downloaded darktide yesterday and I was grinding it, I ended...
are u under lv30
mellow abyss
Yes
agile forge
The marks 1 and 2 have a killer bayonet
The mark 3 has a more awkward one, but it deals the most damage
I like the 2 (the lightest variant)
tall torrent
ok, get to lv30 first
sub-lv30 is basically try whatever u like
u want to get to lv30 so u get higher rated gear that actually matter for built crafting
agile forge
For the most part yeah
Although if you wanna try a combat axe, get one with brutal momentum on it
mellow abyss
Do I have to sell the weapon I don’t use or I just leave it there
agile forge
Apart from that don't sweat it
radiant chasm
mk3 hits carapace
tall torrent
Do I have to sell the weapon I don’t use or I just leave it there
sell / earn blessing
agile forge
You can hang onto it, sell it, or hand it to Hadron to learn the blessing
radiant chasm
1 and 2 don't hit into cara well
agile forge
Yeah, the 3 is kind of a different weapon class in itself
Tbh the 2 shoots Carapace OK even. Not great , but ok
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elephant gun
agile forge
But the bayonet is shit vs carapace
mellow abyss
I felt like playing alone, I can’t do much with the helbore
agile forge
The worst part about the helbore is the weapon swap speed
mellow abyss
either the ogryn tank it all or for the most of the time i keep using melee
agile forge
Ogryn should stand on a side
They will frustrate you on veteran every time lmao (also on gunker)
Some weapons can cleave through a friendly player better though
agile forge
Like the plasma, the agripinaa autoguns (infantry and braced), bolters and revolvers (at least the Zarona, not sure about the Agripinaa)
last parcel
just run revolver and plasma forever
tall torrent
Like the plasma, the agripinaa autoguns (infantry and braced), bolters and revol...
Agripinaa revolver can’t cleave
agile forge
Still throws me
Agripinaa is the cleavey manufactorum
And yet for their revolver they decide to use hollow points
tribal tangle
this game is just in dire need of weapons, or at the minimum a rebalance, they need to buff and lot of things
tons of weapons arent used by a large percentage of the player base because they're just so much worse than something else or another version
hearty panther
most of the playerbase is pretty mediocre at the game and the vast majority of players trend towards the path of least resistance
doesnt really matter how you balance the game, something will always do more with less effort and immediately takes over as the new meta
psword is the most used weapon in the game and its not actually the best weapon and is terrible in an actual hard place
agile forge
I wouldn't say terrible but yeah, the mobility and charge up time is awkward.
It's a solid A in every category but an S in nothing
Chainsword 4 is so much better vs everything besides Crushers, but it's a piece of shit against Crushers
hearty panther
meanwhile like 95% of the weapon roster is damnation viable, 100% is viable below that, yet people continue to gravitate between the same four options
tough tiger
Huge L announcement
iron marten
South Hemispherian here, when is after summer lol
hearty panther
after winter
iron marten
so true!
fair topaz
this game is just in dire need of weapons, or at the minimum a rebalance, they n...
like which weapons. there's a mech for every weapon loadout, usually multiple chassis that can support a loadout
white minnow
weapon variety is fairly decent and the difference in performance between a lot of weapons is just overstated
white minnow
the classes that i would say even needs more weapons would just be psyker and ogryn
white minnow
you will heavy and you will like it
fair topaz
yep. some weapons in wh40k wouldn't be useable by IG so there's that
hearty panther
ogryn being psychologically locked out of half their movesets is such a vibe
fair topaz
it's pretty faithful to the game's universe weapons
tribal tangle
headhunter autos could use a buff, make them actually worth using
white minnow
they're pretty good though
tribal tangle
an issue is theres things like the columnus that are extremely good, so theres usually not much reason to go for other choices idk
white minnow
the only one that i would consider eh is just the mk9 because of the recoil + stagger working against you
tribal tangle
its personal choice but i can say a lot of people are picking whatever weapons because they're however much better
white minnow
yes i do not deny that they're better and that makes people pick them more
tribal tangle
lot of people also play different things for fun
white minnow
but the existence of better weapons =/= headhunters are not worth using or are bad
fair topaz
recon lasgun is actually better than columnus infantry autogun in my opinion, higher dmg faster fire rate, but it's not popular
white minnow
recon lasguns do not beat the infantry autoguns in DPS by any measure
hearty panther
ill simp for recons all day but that is a take
tribal tangle
lasguns couldnt hurt for a bit of improvement too
white minnow
i also disagree with buffs in general since we're in a state of high power player level
tribal tangle
pistols are alright
white minnow
so we should be going for nerfs more often than not than buffs currently
fair topaz
i like lasguns but they require a lot more button presses to operate
oblique horizon
lasguns couldnt hurt for a bit of improvement too
The accatrans are begging for help from the dumpster
fair topaz
hellbore is like a mini plasma gun without the punch
oblique horizon
Or they could just add hellguns
No way in the next update. They would tell us about them, they know vets have been begging for it since day 1
fair topaz
i couldn't get it to work well
oblique horizon
i couldn't get it to work well
I like Hellbore 2 tbh, apart from atrocious sights. Though it fits more with exec stance rather than shout
fair topaz
exe stance just doesn't seem to make any sense to me when you have hordes of melee
maybe a squad with exe stance
individually voice healing and stagger are a lot more useful to me
oblique horizon
Thats fair. I like it for ability to deal with both shooters and gunners and crushers
fair topaz
well if you can run exe with random quickplays kudos
quickplay is too run and gun on higher difficulty levels with randoms
oblique horizon
well if you can run exe with random quickplays kudos
Oh you just force people to be your meatshields and hang out in the back:D Well unless its 2 or 3 ogryns, then its hardXD
fair topaz
i hit 26 and now i'm running 4-heresy missions and there's a lot of people just looking to tag along
even if i'm the one dying a lot, lvl 15 in heresy for example they just hang around
oblique horizon
Ah, there experience can be different I admit. Im way too used to playing in Auric so yeah maybe shout is better
fair topaz
well the game is fun even with wipes
auric has a lot of specialists i take it
that could be useful since ammo is issue
oblique horizon
Well, like 5 or 6 every 15 seconds maybe
fair topaz
exe stance tree has +25% ammo talent
oblique horizon
Though it does depend on who much the ai director hates you on that day
fair topaz
well gimme a squad with voice, a psker and the other two can experiment
psykers do great crowd control
oblique horizon
Well if they take smite that is:D
fair topaz
idk enough about pskers but generally they seem to handle the hordes well
mental cloud
Oh you just force people to be your meatshields and hang out in the back:D Well ...
Is that not how you play?!?! Lol
oblique horizon
Is that not how you play?!?! Lol
Not really. I usually play with shout since exec is a bit too glass cannon for my tastes
fair topaz
i'd run exe with lasgun if i had full squad of veterans, +1 voice for heal
mental cloud
Not really. I usually play with shout since exec is a bit too glass cannon for m...
Facts I’m the same way. Anything above heresy on exe is punishing
oblique horizon
Facts I’m the same way. Anything above heresy on exe is punishing
You can play with it and some weapons benefit a lot from it but you cant be frontliner with it. So its more of an option when youre playing with 3 friends and not randoms
mental cloud
i'd run exe with lasgun if i had full squad of veterans, +1 voice for heal
That’s what I live for man..
fair topaz
wonder how it would work with 4 infiltrators
all stealth
could u just run to the end?
oblique horizon
could u just run to the end?
I think all missions have a mid event so not really
fair topaz
horde clearing event yep
agile forge
I think all missions have a mid event so not really
Sycorax mid event is a rush though
oblique horizon
True. End event is still scanning a lot though
hardy ember
Well let’s hope this update at least buffs some weapons other than no itemization update
jaunty sphinx
im gonna be 100% real if the delay doesnt result in a good rework to the crafting im probably done
solemn niche
anyone wants to try a speedrun ? need a team with high velocity builds
grand perch
man im rediscovering the basic non-fold shovel
they buffed swing speed at some point and i totally forgot
solemn niche
they buffed swing speed at some point and i totally forgot
if you go all in on weapon speed with weapon specialist it gets pretty ridiculous lol
mental cloud
and stopping a mutant dead in its track with the special
Which one is the non fold shovel?
grand perch
mental cloud
Emperor bless you
That’s what I’m gonna spend millions on dockets and materials trying to roll later 😑
grand perch
you have to hit the mutant in their head to stagger them tho, mind you
solemn niche
you can also get decimater over hammerblow
skullcrusher looks good on paper but the shovel doesn't have enough stagger to benefit from it
it works with vvoice of command though, so you can throw something on the ground with your shout and then hit it with your skullcrusher shovel and it will take 40% extra damage
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iron marten
pray to the omnissiah lol
there is a pretty expensive way to farm t4 blessings: get the wep to blue, change the blessing to anything t4, then get it to gold
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iron marten
hahaha
plush hound
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iron marten
i bid farewell to every vet starting their powercycler 4 journey
iron marten
there is a pretty expensive way to farm t4 blessings: get the wep to blue, chang...
anecdotal evidence: did this for knife and got alot of t4 blessings pretty quickly
grand perch
its not the best option though
iron marten
yeah, it's really expensive
grand perch
dont take t4 blessing, put a t1 blessing on
its cheaper
and also blocks its own t4 variant just the same
just...dont take power cycler 1 obviously, as it will prevent 4 from coming up
just bonk
umbral cloud
I really struggle with the people I get matched with in auric heresy and auric maelstrom games 😭
Auric damnantion quickplay is usually completely fine though
clear lantern
auric T4 is how people see if they're ready, that's why
Auric Maelstrom is people trying to get a penance
tall torrent
just...dont take power cycler 1 obviously, as it will prevent 4 from coming up
Power cycler is only 3 & 4
pearl granite
just tested in a histg map, feel pretty weird but I guess it's just the first time 😂
can't decide what I want for the last fixing, 25% carapace or surgical 4
currently need 2 charged head shot for a reaper
uncut pebble
i bid farewell to every vet starting their powercycler 4 journey
I got mine before I was even level 30. Was farming pswords for good stats and I don't throw them away if they've got bad ones, just upgrade to blue and throw it at Hadron.
uncut pebble
currently need 2 charged head shot for a reaper
Take the L on having to shoot a reaper twice and get carapace damage.
pearl granite
Take the L on having to shoot a reaper twice and get carapace damage.
is it possbile to do one shot reaper 😄
uncut pebble
Honestly? I doubt it.
And surgical 4 isn't going to magically increase your damage.
It just means your guaranteed crit builds like .10 seconds faster.
I would just take carapace damage to help chew through crushers and maulers.
If you don't see any impact with that you could try taking unyielding damage instead to see if you can 1shot a reaper.
pearl granite
sounds reasonable 
also just noticed the item rework is postponed...
3 more months of saving plasteel I guess
unique orchid
postponed isnt the word i would necessarily use, it was a loose possibility the item rework came with SotMG
pearl granite
still, kinda sad it's not ready yet. spacemarine 2 is so close, and me & the bois are all waiting for it 😢
clear lantern
still, kinda sad it's not ready yet. spacemarine 2 is so close, and me & the boi...
I mean.. 3 months
tiny summit
i bid farewell to every vet starting their powercycler 4 journey
First try PS6, got PC4 and Sunder
iron marten
First try PS6, got PC4 and Sunder
I got it after I reached level 30 on vet, shortly after the beta, as an emperor's drop
lmao
tiny summit
Now the rashad godroll is another thing
tall torrent
is it possbile to do one shot reaper 😄
Crit headshot yes
clear lantern
fully charged lasgun shot? Sure.
tawny badger
god I love mag dumping into hordes
inland orchid
you have bullets and those enemies looked ready to have them
i dont blame u one bit battle brother
sinful swallow
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Oh base rating
If you're farming t4s, base rating over 365 for best results
Some people also make 2 vets since there's 5 operative slots to double dip into melk rolls, you only need to get the 2nd one to 30 and just check now and then on shop refreshes
Best milage on ogryn since they have their own pool but it helps long-term for humans with all the weapon overlap
tawny badger
i dont blame u one bit battle brother <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
also covering fire goes kinda hard
inland orchid
unsung hero in my eyes there
tall torrent
also covering fire goes kinda hard
if it worked for self (even at reduced value) it'd be at least decent
tawny badger
true
even if it was like 7% toughness per kill that’s good against hordes and worth the risk of getting within such a close distance
tall torrent
even if it was like 7% toughness per kill that’s good against hordes *and* worth...
For the most part it’s just not worth actively using ammo on crowds in this game
clear lantern
fuck that, I'm shootin
coral willow
yaaaaaay itemization postponed
what else do we get, 2 weapons and another 2 weapons later?
i hope not
hearty panther
da map
opaque kayak
somber axle
For the most part it’s just not worth actively using ammo on crowds in this game
I like it with my Helbore Mk II through Surgical, Deadshot, Shocktrooper and the cleave on shots because with the firing speed from high charge rate and Weight of Fire you can put down a horde at range for surprisingly little ammo spent (sometimes none at all) if you catch them on the advance down a hall or chokepoint while spamming shots
Depending on the environment it can be fun to thin out a horde down to a few for quick and easy clean up via bayonet or sometimes even manage to wipe out the small crowd before it comes close to the squad
tall torrent
what else do we get, 2 weapons and another 2 weapons later?
4 new weapon types, 1 new map, balance changes, fixes, etc
That’s my guess
coral willow
4 new weapon types, 1 new map, balance changes, fixes, etc
That’s my guess
my question is
will they even release the 4 new weapons proper
cause like its 4 days
and we still havent heard shit
no devlog, no actual teaser, nothing
i know fatshark is bad at communicating but this seems bad
somber axle
cause like its 4 days
what do you mean
the teasers are on twitter so if you don't use that I understand
but they have been doing some teasing about the new stuff there
coral willow
but they have been doing _some_ teasing about the new stuff there
damn it was todayt
alright i eat my words then
somber axle
the funny thing is they were also teasing the new level through obscure emotes LOL
ice cube emoji
and
elevator emoji
hearty panther
hell yea
tall torrent
will they even release the 4 new weapons proper
Yea
Ogryn gets 3 variants in a new weapon type
That’s nice
coral willow
the funny thing is they were also teasing the new level through obscure emotes L...
i gave up hope for that one
coral willow
Ogryn gets 3 variants in a new weapon type
from one sitting, ogryns eating nice
i wonder if that'll happen to the other ones
somber axle
Ogryn gets 3 variants in a new weapon type
I feel like they were looking at class metrics and noticed Ogryns are the least played class so maybe this is a way of trying to get more players to try them
clear lantern
I like the pickaxe. It might work better than "beating someone with the axel of a truck"
somber axle
Veteran is probably the most played class by far and it's not even close
Then Zealot
Then Psyker
Last Ogryn
clear lantern
this is also the order I'll probably have 60/60 penances in
somber axle
I tried to go 100% completionist on all penances but
clear lantern
I have the hard ones done years ago; it's just the inevitable ones you get by playing
tall torrent
I tried to go 100% completionist on all penances but
It’s not worth
somber axle
I ended up missing 3 Zealot penances all linked to just finishing a private match in under 20 minutes
if I did that I'd have 100% completed the Zealot penances
oh and like
100 matches on Ogryn
clear lantern
like, the final title and class pose I think I'd be satisfied, but at that point the only thing left are auric+/maelstroms
somber axle
I have 59/60 Ogryn penances
but I have maxed out Vet and Psyker
and I've done literally every single other Ogryn and Zealot
somber axle
It’s not worth
I did it because I thought it would be the most fun way to get to 4500 penances tbh
that and skulls/puzzles
the completing missions based on difficulty ones were the easiest
just play the game and get them
tall torrent
I did it because I thought it would be the most fun way to get to 4500 penances ...
50 lights out, 75 grims, 2500 yellow barrel kills
Nah
somber axle
I also had the majority of pre-update achievements completed
clear lantern
I got the <20 one in a public game, where it was.. 90% rather than 75%? It took a few tries; a couple were 1-2 minutes over. Doing the plague tree one was it and one dude was just not runnin' to get to that jet and it ran over.
somber axle
Vet was 100% complete before Path of Redemption
somber axle
I got the <20 one in a public game, where it was.. 90% rather than 75%? It took...
I think pre-Path of Redemption it was possible to do in a public game?
But now it's marked as private games only
clear lantern
yeah; they were all public
Like, in December, a lot of people were cheesing that <1 wound penance by getting one wound, waiting five minutes, and then the team wiping
because the game would count even a wipe as a "completion" and it triggered the penance.
somber axle
50 lights out, 75 grims, 2500 yellow barrel kills
Nah
I'm still working on the first two but I'm not really interested in the last one unless they update it to give a title or frame at least
clear lantern
I just don't see any lights out matches latelt outside of an auric; I am at 1000 barrel kills
got all scripts/scripts done much earlier this month
tall torrent
4500 penance points it’s just not worth going for more penances
somber axle
I got all scrips because it has such a cool frame
tall torrent
I’ve been using skull hoarder with orthus champion insignia
serene bough
Still never finished rogue trader
midnight totem
The chest piece of that rogue trader piece is too sunken in, can't use it
My reject looks like he's missing his lungs
last parcel
yeah they got sucked out
austere pine
there's no need for lungs when you've got drip
last parcel
made alveoli ravioli
midnight totem
How can I admire my own drip if I don't got lungs to brag about it?!
last parcel
midnight totem
alrighty, anybody up for a game?
tall torrent
I wish the Moebian 6th armor had a helmet & mask combo
midnight totem
I sense Slaaneshi heresy
coral willow
I wish the Moebian 6th armor had a helmet & mask combo
hood n mask was all we got yes?
tall torrent
hood n mask was all we got yes?
Well we got mask without helmet, and helmet without mask
coral willow
didnt they give out mobeian 6th mask and a hood shit
pretty popular shit
i mean it looks cool
tall torrent
didnt they give out mobeian 6th mask and a hood shit
Yes there’re 2 Moebian 6th headpieces
For veteran it’s helmet without mask (face exposed) and mask without helmet (weird hood, no helmet)
winter grove
Glad they made Moebian 6th cosmetics blue and white
I can imagine shooting my own teammates if they were similar to enemies
tall torrent
Glad they made Moebian 6th cosmetics blue and white
They rly need to drop the helmet + mask headpiece cosmetics
coral willow
Glad they made Moebian 6th cosmetics blue and white
i forget 21st and 6th both have same color schemes
well 6th having white also
wouldve liked black green combo too
winter grove
i forget 21st and 6th both have same color schemes
I guess Moebians really like color Blue
Well 21st has blue clothing with black armor and 6th got Blue armor and white clothing
round jetty
hm...delayed updates.... where have i seen this before (sharttide part 928)
hybrid token
well that was.....something
tawny badger
"oh man I’ll be on my last wound I sure hope something doesn’t immediately kill me after I get revived"
tox flamer:
sinful swallow
"oh man I’ll be on my last wound I sure hope something doesn’t immediately kill ...
The poxburster:
vast edge
Rolled this.
lament pond
Decimator already fixed, so any shovel pretty suck at this point 😦
sinful swallow
Do you guys think we're getting bolt pistol variants too
vast edge
Decimator already fixed, so any shovel pretty suck at this point 😦
It's joever.
coral willow
Decimator already fixed, so any shovel pretty suck at this point 😦
what was it before?
lament pond
2nd attack, you can get more than 1 stack depend on how many enemies you hit, now it count only 1 and lose it if you miss
rigid pilot
Kinda expected
Though now I'm interested in what their idea of itemization is
Are we gonna get gun mods 
somber axle
it can't just be them giving us a third perk/blessing to modify at this point
it has to be something more complex
noble canyon
Imagine if it's just that - locks removed and no further changes.
coral willow
2nd attack, you can get more than 1 stack depend on how many enemies you hit, no...
so high stack headtaker
tbh if deci was high stack headtaker but if you miss it goes back to 0 it would've been nice
coral willow
it can't just be them giving us a third perk/blessing to modify at this point
this sounds like it ciuld potentially break the game tbh
somber axle
this sounds like it ciuld potentially break the game tbh
wdym we can currently only change two traits on a weapon so changing up to three traits instead would only mean less bricked weapons
you'd only need 1 of your preferred perks/blessings then you could change the other 3
but that's too simple to be what they're delaying things over
coral willow
wdym we can currently only change two traits on a weapon so changing up to three...
oh nvm
i thought you mean another perk/blessing slot kek
yeah tbh three changable slots should solve most of the issues for good
last parcel
i always take overwatch + (low profile / hunter's resolve)
somber axle
Low Profile almost always unless I'm doing a funny Chainaxe meme with Surprise Attack instead
tall torrent
tbh if deci was high stack headtaker but if you miss it goes back to 0 it would'...
That actually is how it works rn
Besides the 1 stack per atk
Instead of 1 stack per enemy hit
So it’s just bad
coral willow
Besides the 1 stack per atk
well thats the important bit
if it was like headtaker there it'd could've been great
currently its like shred/wrath but damage and higher stacks
per enemy hit would make it quite viable
tall torrent
Drop all stacks on miss is just bad
At least make it like
Drop 2 stacks instead of all stacks or smth if they have to keep the drop stacks part
coral willow
wrath, shred,overwhelming fire
there are lots of "if you miss it get reseted"
every single one of them doesnt habe 10 stacks though which feels like its the problme
tall torrent
None of these are fun to play with
coral willow
if it was more like headtaker where enemy hit was in criteria you could get away with 10 stacks
you go big or lose big time
coral willow
initialize with PA to cleave like 3 enemies getting 15% boost and then start from there, it could've worked
but for now headtaker has it so
white minnow
though more conditional blessings is better than the basically-always-active blessings that we have
and the choice between multiple blessings means that you can just not take it at all
coral willow
it should be like that deci is just
fucked rn
takes to long to proc, the miss means you're devastated
if it had headtaker proc mechanism(each hit increases it) shovel would get it in like 3 swings
i think 10stack talents are interesting(and only deci is one rn) but it just takes way too long
like if it had no 2 second limit even then people would consider about it
austere mica
I have a decimator shovel
Mostly because I haven’t bothered to get one with uncanny
I should get around to that
white minnow
prob just making the timer longer on them in exchange
austere mica
You can feel decimator on longer engagements though
You go from knocking stuff around to killing
But yeah loosing all your stacks on a single whiff is mean
gilded wraith
Does the agripinaa revolver utilize crit strings?
flat crypt
Crit strings?
junior needle
Does the agripinaa revolver utilize crit strings?
no
Only automatics and burst fires have that
mortal orbit
Is there a graph or some medium showing the spread/damage per pellet for shotties
junior needle
takes to long to proc, the miss means you're devastated
Fun fact: Deci used to be able to multi proc on cleaved targets
Fatshork changed it and make it lame
flat crypt
Tbf it was kinda broken 😅