veteran-class

[junior needle]

The difference between tiers is minimal

[mortal orbit]

^^ this

I think power cycler is the only one that is a big step

[radiant chasm]

The vox radios that appear in multiple maps? Or is this something different

[mortal orbit]

Yes

Those.

[radiant chasm]

They tell a story

[mortal orbit]

Pure easter egg? Shiiiit let us collect some parts from them or something

[radiant chasm]

https://youtu.be/zIzRfDxGKEc?si=hsR8Fkrg_vwzJ6II

[somber axle]

I'm going to have to DM you because for some reason my list was not allowed to be typed here LMFAO

[radiant chasm]

Someone got all the audio and posted it

[somber axle]

WAIT

[mortal orbit]

Ty

[somber axle]

I KNOW HOW TO DO THIS

[last parcel]

uwuify it

[last parcel]

that should get past the censors

[somber axle]

I know ancient clown magic

I know how to screenshot a comment that for some reason is being blocked without explanation

LMFAO

[radiant chasm]

Ancient clown magic

[somber axle]

I love my snip tool

no idea why this was blocked by the server but if a mod notices maybe they can tell me

[radiant chasm]

I think pure size maybe?

Tho it says content

I dint seee anything tho

[junior needle]

Here you go, I'd say it's a pretty sizable difference

[somber axle]

yeah idk why it was blocked either

anyway there was also the funny Skulls event for earning extra plasteel and briefly let people buy the Rogue Trader/Krieg outfits again

[junior needle]

So a new enemy, a new modifier with a mechanic based on the new enemy, and some cosmetics

[somber axle]

I was very thankful since Krieg was one of the ones I was missing

[somber axle]

and story!

and NPCs

[junior needle]

And some uh, still sparse "story"

[somber axle]

and new dialogue

and frames

and titles

[junior needle]

titles and frames are "content"

[last parcel]

sticky surprise

[somber axle]

OH AND THE PUZZLES

I love the puzzles

[last parcel]

[somber axle]

they've been fun to do together

plus the whole team gets a bonus +100 plasteel if any player needs the skull and picks up the skull

[coral willow]

tbh i like the new hab dreyko story

[somber axle]

incentivising groups to help someone get a skull

[coral willow]

only first time and it sucks tbh

[somber axle]

there have been a lot of very nice players in quickplay who help each other

it has been nice to see the community work together

[somber axle]

wdym sucks it's free +100 plasteel for helping someone do a puzzle LOL

even if you already have it, not everyone does

and I still get matches where someone doesn't have a skull

and help them do it

and they get to do a funny puzzle together with me

[last parcel]

bro is mad they can't farm with their friend 😢

[somber axle]

and we both get plasteel out of it

for quickplay creatures like me it's free plasteel

and now we can get over 1000 plasteel in a single match

it's glorious

I actually have so much plasteel that I'm no longer hitting trouble with plasteel upgrading weapons and now I need more diamantine

people used to cry about plasteel

give this another few months to let the natural eb and flow of upgrading weapons tax those resources

people will begin crying about diamantine guaranteed

Oh I forgot to mention

Hestia gets a REALLY COOL cinematic introducing her when you first interact with her new place on the Mourningstar

[coral willow]

everyone got one and no more plasteel

[somber axle]

yeah sometimes you get groups where everyone already has the skull so there's no reason to do the puzzle

people hard farmed penances for the 4500 penance points needed to get the new Moebian stuff

but even now I don't think everyone has every skull unlocked

[coral willow]

sometimes X
almost everyone rn

[somber axle]

I still get bonus plasteel sometimes in quickplay from helping a player get a skull

[coral willow]

least on korean servers

asian stuff

[somber axle]

idk how it is on Korean servers

I play exclusively US West

[coral willow]

either way

its not bad

but i hope it was re-doable like give idk 25 plasteel

[somber axle]

it's fun new gameplay, bonus resources and a way to get players to help each other

it has lead to groups actually interacting

instead of just groups going total silence until the end and then saying "gg" and leaving

people actually talk sometimes in matches a little bit

I've run into more people voice chatting and typing

less ghosts

even though I am very frequently a ghost so I'm part of the problem

[last parcel]

i only had people ask for skulls during the first weeks

we're all ghosts now

[coral willow]

^

[somber axle]

I always ask if everyone has a skull when approaching a puzzle

sometimes someone chimes in saying they didn't know that skull existed

so we do it together and I get it for them

sometimes everyone says they have it and we can walk by ezpz

tbh I don't even have every skull unlocked

I stopped grinding them out when I hit 4500

now I'm just saving dockets and plasteel for the boltpistol

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/grabbing-toilet-paper-rolls-jamie-zhu-this-is-mine-hoarding-run-gif-17450277

[coral willow]

i got mine spent

back to 2800

[last parcel]

5 dockets

[somber axle]

I'd have more plasteel and dockets but I finally just decided to throw money at the problem of Rashad Mk II Combat Axe grinding until I got one

then was disappointed

LOL

not worth the time, effort or dockets imo

but at least now I know how the Rashad feels whenever someone says it's a crazy good weapon

[last parcel]

spend more dockets to get a rocket jet and velcro it onto the rashad

[somber axle]

it's strong but I hate how slow it feels

[somber axle]

I need to do enough celerity stims to overdose

[coral willow]

me when marty rashad

[slow sky]

momentum fotf and faithful frenzy makes up for its speed tbh

[somber axle]

Zealot speed is kinda addicting

[hearty panther]

45% bonus attack speed helps the caxes? i dont believe it

[somber axle]

I should play my Zealot more

[hearty panther]

show me ur proofs

[somber axle]

wow

that's more impressive than Auric Storm Survivor and Auric Exemplar

more impressive than secret hard more damnation Karnak Twins

[slow sky]

this is all i have left

[last parcel]

wow, an actual daemon in chat

[somber axle]

I'm kinda shocked you don't have 50/50 carnival missions done before everything else LMFAO

[slow sky]

whys that

its literally 2 missions on that map

[somber axle]

it feels like an easy one to get for casual quickplay

[slow sky]

its the map with the least amount of missions

[somber axle]

I only have 35/50 so far but I haven't been going out of my way to grind it

[slow sky]

i had to go out of my way to get it a lot of the time

[somber axle]

feels like just playing the game a bunch would put you there often enough to earn 50 completed carnival missions before some other tougher to get penances

[slow sky]

same with hourglass

cuz those missions never have hazard conditions

[somber axle]

I'm already done with the 50/50 missions for all of them except Carnival right now

[slow sky]

and i already did all 150 of those

[somber axle]

ah ok that makes more sense

hunting specific mission modifiers

but also

grims before scrips?

[slow sky]

i started hard focusing them recently

[somber axle]

feels like more groups in quickplay will grab at least 1-2 scrips per run where a lot of groups will just ignore grims entirely

[slow sky]

since all hazards were done

i was always the one grabbing the grim

[somber axle]

that must have taken a while

[slow sky]

got a decent chunk of them done while speedrunning with cyra

today

58 to 75

[last parcel]

[coral willow]

hourglass doesnt get condition cause outside?

[midnight totem]

anybody up for a game?

[late hatch]

I really wish the devs would fix the long wait when someone quits right as the mission ends. I dont want to wait 30 seconds staring at a scoreboard before I can spam space to continue

[crystal river]

sry darktide, i'm just returning from hd2

[somber axle]

I'd be down to join you for a game if I didn't have work early tomorrow

If you're free Sunday around this time I might be free to play then

[midnight totem]

sounds good

[somber axle]

wait not around this time

an hour after this time

[uncut leaf]

wooo thank god for melk with t4 power cycler

[agile yew]

Just posting my daily Power Cycler lvl III tease at Melk shop (instead of IV that ive been looking after over half year)

[uncut pebble]

Honestly? L.

[late hatch]

Dammit fatshark. It looks like my zealot is very excited wearing this new armour

[shadow dagger]

i think i just fell victim to a triple dc

the fuck

at the end of a refinery delta mission

i dced and loaded back into the last guy with a dog and 3 ragers on him

very cool

[grand perch]

if i had a nickel for every time a lad named after a pre-40k imperium character that starts with "M" that was high enough level to be considered competent enough for a damnation auric pox mission who went down a lot and then quit to be replaced by another dude named after a pre-40k character that starts with "M"

i'd have two nickels

[last parcel]

[late hatch]

Man the auric queue is giving me a terminal illness

level 22, level 36, lvl 40, etc, with no awareness or positioning

And the huge mistake that was the survivor titles so people just alt f4 every time

[sturdy zephyr]

Brave.

[real pawn]

new to vet, what i do with this

[unique sorrel]

farm pc4 probably

power cycler

[real pawn]

replace slaughterer?

[woeful ibex]

IMO keep Slaughterer

Do you have power cycler?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword-power/munitorum-mk-vi-power-sword

[real pawn]

i have pc3

[late hatch]

Bromentum can help you reach headshot BPs if you are playing on max diff. Slaughterer is also very good. Power is awesome

[sturdy zephyr]

I run slaugther with psword. I thinkbest bromomentum. I still grinding for my psword with bromomentum

Slaugther decent but still slow imo for trashmob clearing.

[odd sparrow]

Oh thats why people have been quitting. Ffs catfish really dont think these penances through

[odd sparrow]

Replace slaughter with power cycler. Unyielding with maniac

[late hatch]

And they still have private game only penances in the game. WTF is the point of an achievement that is badly designed in the first place, but also forces you to do it in a private game?
I think someone swallowed a piece of lego and almost died from asphyxiation, but unfortunately they werent rescued in time to prevent brain damage

[odd sparrow]

Brutal momentum is needed to reach 1 shot BP on several enemies including crusher charge -> push attack -> light -> light

[umbral cloud]

Pain

[odd sparrow]

Ah pain indeed

[real pawn]

thanks guys

[agile forge]

Stopping power most important stat :/

[agile forge]

Good enough

PC3 is fundamentally very nearly as strong as PC4 for the mark 6

I think it helps more on the mark 3 (but mark 3 is much worse than mark 6 anyway)

Definitely keep Bromentum and drop Slaughterer though

Slaughterer is good but it's still a distant 4th place for Power Sword

[radiant linden]

Keep BM

[radiant linden]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ggcSlbYWTn4

The heavies are not that great against crushers and maulers, you want to push attack and light down swing.

[frank basin]

psuh attack pokey

[mental sun]

is DumDum IV on IAGs really rare or am I just unlucky? I've managed to get it on every other weapon type that can roll it except the one where I really want it.

[wild wasp]

Oh damn, really?

[odd sparrow]

Propably just unlucky

Power sword 6 has the exact same downsides as 3 while also having better block and 1 tap potential

[agile forge]

PS6 also clears on lights

Which are functionally as strong as the PS3's heavies but faster

[radiant linden]

@dreamy lantern pin this video so people can watch it and learn

[dreamy spade]

just copped these two

[uncut pebble]

Pray that Hadron has mercy. She took my mk2, gave me weight of fire 4 on perfect stats, then turned around and gave me infested and crit chance.

[uncut pebble]

Rip.

[sturdy zephyr]

can you imagine how BRAVE this guys. 😄

damnation standard

[rare bough]

what this mod called btw?

[real pawn]

it's called enhanced descriptions

[feral bay]

I'd love that thing about now on my vet.

[woeful ibex]

I had a similiar experience

Veteran Shouting

[last steppe]

are the recon lasguns worth using at all? they seem like all they do is use a lot of ammo for a flashy light show with no payoff

[crimson pebble]

If their fun to you sure use them but meta nah not rlly

[last steppe]

I guess but i'm not even talking about meta either, they just don't feel good to usse at all

i feel like i'm doing literally nothing while firing it

[feral bay]

Well, there's always the perk that allows you to not use ammo with lasguns, so they benefit from that.,

[agile forge]

You can make the 6 decentish

But infantry autoguns are king

Mostly the columnus

[candid path]

They were great at one point and they got nerfed pre hard. Id say if ur playing damnation/aurics, you should have Columnus, Graia, or plasma more often than not

[tame lodge]

The answer is:
No, but...

[marsh helm]

yesn't

[last steppe]

what hellbore variant has the charge attack on the melee?

i swear one has it but i can't member

[rigid pilot]

Recon has decent ttl on most specials and elites, with the big downside of little to no stagger

[tame lodge]

Mk1 and Mk2

[rigid pilot]

So you gotta lineup the headshots while being shot to shit

[marsh helm]

recon is ok if you want the 20 headshots in a row penance and theres a horde coming your way

[crimson pebble]

Alternatively pysker brain burst

[tall torrent]

for fun yes
for meta no

[fiery wave]

No

[fiery wave]

Can’t get their crit chance high enough to be worth it

[marsh helm]

if youre bringing recon to auric maelstrom youre just gonna run out of ammo fast while doing zdps

[fiery wave]

Low damage high ammo cost

[tame lodge]

Very accurate description btw
if you're not using Sneaky Cat's build

[tough tiger]

which helbore is best for shooting and which is best for stabbing? i mix up the 3 often

[somber axle]

I HAVE BEEN MENTIONED

I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED

henlo

[tame lodge]

Mk1 shoots hard and stab
Mk2 shoots fast and stab
Mk3 shoots harder and slash

[tough tiger]

is the slash usable for hordes?

or is it just a stagger tool?

ive only used the stabs

[tame lodge]

Not usable for hordes

[tough tiger]

bummer

[tame lodge]

It would make the Mk3 too strong

[somber axle]

Untrue about Recons but probably true about the average player trying to use them

[hearty panther]

literally anything

[rigid pilot]

You'll run out of ammo sooner by using bolter than recon

[tough tiger]

recons 🤢

[somber axle]

Ok I'm on my computer and I have a few minutes to post this before I get ready for work

[rigid pilot]

If you won't bolt poxwalkers, you also shouldn't recon them either

[tough tiger]

arent u just a cat

[rigid pilot]

They're sneaky

[hearty panther]

litterboxes dont spill themselves

[somber axle]

This is what can happen with the ideal crit strings against a Crusher using my build

5 ammo spent

Though Azrael helped teach me about close range damage and how it actually works so now I've been able to push it to 3.4k DPS

and I need to make a new recording to show that new DPS milestone

this is normal and not just psykanium fluff because I also do this in Aurics

I have an old scoreboard from a long time ago when I was a more scared clown running a standard Damnation match where I outdid both a Columnus Infantry Autogun user and a Plasma gun user on nearly all damage/kill metrics

right most Vet was Plasma

other Vet was Columnus Infantry Autogun

I did more damage and got more kills on them on nearly every single metric while using less ammo than both of them

the CIAG user did 9k more ranged damage but got less kills

[feral bay]

I got that with the columnus and just point-blanking a horde as it came around the corner.

[somber axle]

the Plasma user got 2 more ranged elite kills but used 7 ammo tins, 3 ammo packs and 3 ammo crate hits while I did better damage and got more kills in every other metric by using a Recon with 4 tins, 1 pack and 1 ammo crate used

The power of the Recons is ammo efficiency when used in combo with a rending stacking and crit stacking build

With good stam management and good crit strings the guns will fire for longer than any other automatic weapon in the game between reloads

I enjoy them for the funny laser lightshow I get to play with

Laser vomit into targets and burn them

If you can kill a Crusher in anywhere from 5-9 ammo spent in Auric Damnation difficulty level while using a gun that has 108 ammo per clip and 800-ish ammo in reserve you probably have better ammo efficiency than most other guns

Even a Columnus Infantry Autogun can't get the kill down to that few bullets spent

and a CIAG has a smaller clip size too

CIAG has better damage/finesse values and better adm so it's easier to get solid TTK on Crushers without super juicing them

but when Survivalist's Aura was changed, a clown was actually unphased

I was already running the most ammo efficient version of my build I could make so the aura reducing ammo returned on elite/special kills didn't really hit my gameplay

I do use Recon Mk VId in both Auric Damnation and Maelstroms

for the average person you probably shouldn't

I run a very hyper specific build that pushes the gun into being more viable at higher difficulties

this is the old talent build but I need to save the altered version LOL

[coral willow]

8m?

[somber axle]

I swapped the talent point off of the node for all ranged highlight into marksman and swapped the talent point off of duck and dive into close quarters kill zone for extra damage

[somber axle]

Close Range Damage is actually misleading as far as the name goes. It gives full benefit up to the 8m mark and beyond that it slowly dimishes in value until 30m where you stop receiving any benefit at all

So something like Dum Dum gives crazy amounts of value for damage because most engagements are happening in those ranges

very few things will ever appear beyond 30m

[coral willow]

every "close range damage" does this? i.e: runngun?

[crimson pebble]

No 30% weakspot node oh no

[somber axle]

Anything with Dum Dum, but also the talent Close Quarters Kill Zone near the bottom right side of the tree underneath Infiltrate

[oblique totem]

Dakka dakka

[coral willow]

fire frenzy, run n gun, and few others come in mind

does it work on run and gun is my concern tbh

[somber axle]

it's ok I'm a Recon user and I can say that the benefit to using it is actually surprisingly minimal but on extra goofy days I drop grenade regen to get precision strikes for slightly (big emphasis on SLIGHTLY) more DPS and a barely noticeable increase to TTK on targets

[crimson pebble]

Also why the chance of nade comeback node

[somber axle]

afaik yes because it's defined as a +10% close range damage buff iirc

[coral willow]

id say throw away iron will but iron will kinda really good for the noodle that is exec vet

[coral willow]

thats fucking huge im reporting that to korean community

[tiny summit]

Because its a good node and this pathing costs 1 for some sort of nade regen

[coral willow]

too bad handcann9n reliance ruins the day

id pick runandgun with some random blessing

[somber axle]

because otherwise I'd need to spend 2 points to get the 1 min nade regen node and tbh I don't find myself using grenades often enough to need that one, while the 5% nade regen node lets me use the occasional grenade to either create distance in a panic scenario where the squad is sandwiched/backed into a corner or I can underhand lob on approach to stagger a mixed horde for a quick rescue on a downed team mate

I'm not really using grenades outside of those scenarios

[crimson pebble]

Stinky ‼️

Im straight throwing nades like free candy save for one any time i play vets

[somber axle]

the 1 min nade regen node is overrated imo and is just talent efficient for someone going Voice of Command so it makes more sense for that build

I personally don't like Voice of Command so I avoid both when I can

[tiny summit]

You kill so many units that have a chance of proccing it, that 5% occurs a good amount

[coral willow]

eh i dont think its overrated, 15 nade per really fast game is still huge

[somber axle]

yeah the 5% is on any elite/special kill

[coral willow]

regenning nade talents usually just gives some free space to do shit without worrying about

[somber axle]

so it gives you back a grenade more often than you'd think

especially on Aurics when doing high intensity/shock trooper

[coral willow]

also works on ally kill so you dont have to worry about getting stollen

[tall torrent]

It’s still better than demo team

[tiny summit]

Doubt every minute needs a nade though. Its more reliability that you will have a nade. But in Aurics you will pretty much always have demo team proccing multiple times

[tall torrent]

Demo team is a secondary pickup compared to it

[somber axle]

in theory if you're using a grenade every minute it is possible you'll be getting a LOT more grenades than demo team in a match but it also means to get that value you need to be using a grenade once a minute even in moments that make no sense to use them

[coral willow]

its more about using it 3 times and hope that you dont need it for the next 3 mins

[somber axle]

but like the way most people sit on their grenades instead of tracking the CD timer to ensure you never are at cap?

[tall torrent]

This is not quite true because frags are frequently used in 2

[somber axle]

depends on the nade and the use tbh but like for specifically shredder clearing for mixed hordes yeah

[coral willow]

i jsut hold them, spend like 3 of them on the first big ass horde and wait patiently for 3 minuites

[tall torrent]

Frags specifically, often u drop 2 in a mixed horde

[somber axle]

I only really use my nades to create space either to make an opening to fallback/advance or to buy a couple seconds for a revive

[tall torrent]

Demo team is on avg 15 grenades back throughout a mission

[coral willow]

if you only used them in singles for stun yeah you dont get much value
if you use them for hordeclear(dropping 2 or more for bleed stacks) then its really galuable

[somber axle]

the 5% regen is really all I need to have one ready for those moments

[crimson pebble]

I just sell out for the regen so i can leave nades for the rest of the team

[tall torrent]

Demo stockpile is usually 20+

[somber axle]

1 min nade regen node has value dependent on how often you're using the grenades and I don't use them enough to get much value out of it

for someone who is a bit more frequent for dropping nades and watching the timer to ensure that it is always ticking to give you back a grenade it will be a much bigger benefit

[tiny summit]

Yea and doubt you needed the 20+, again its more accepting that demo team is 1 point for vast majority of builds vs demo stockpile for 2 points if you arent already using VoC

[somber axle]

it's just way, way more talent efficient if you're not going down center of the talent tree yeah

[coral willow]

tbh frag tends to be the crutch

[somber axle]

I don't touch VoC so I would have to eat a point tax to get 1 min nade regen from Infil side or Exe side and I don't use grenades enough for that to be a big deal

[tiny summit]

But because VoC is the no brainer, ability that everyone runs yes. Demo stockpile is better than demo team

[coral willow]

everyone sleeps on field improv

[somber axle]

field improv is really good but there are so many different things you want in the Vet tree and it's so much more accessible to reach than the other class talent trees

[hearty panther]

https://youtu.be/rwcc9eJ5T6Q?si=UFYck79Nsbm5dQhr

[coral willow]

more like too much point to spend

i think its one of the top tier support nodes vet has

[somber axle]

if it was not above VoC I'd use it more

[hearty panther]

two Vets with field improv means someone wasted a point

that's the problem with field imp

[coral willow]

great gameplay mechanic btw
still great

[somber axle]

you can never know who has it and most don't

[tiny summit]

The superior nade build

[somber axle]

so if you brought it, you can probably safely assume it is active only because of you

[crimson pebble]

Bro is a certifiable voc hater

[tiny summit]

Good. VoCringe was a mistake

[somber axle]

I don't like Voice of Command or gold toughness because it makes the game so much easier imo

[hearty panther]

its ridiculous

[somber axle]

It just feels too strong to me

[coral willow]

press E to win

except newbies still die with it

[somber axle]

I like Exe Stance and Infil more because the game is more fun for me with either of them

If you enjoy VoC more I'm not judging you but I will judge you if you use it and die immediately after then ragequit disconnect LOL

[crimson pebble]

I do like infil a lot

[hearty panther]

infil is incredibly strong

VoC is just fucking stupid

[crimson pebble]

Wish zealot stealth had the same -90% threat node

[hearty panther]

god no

[tiny summit]

Well the yellow toughness is with a sub node and VoC on its own already restores your toughness...so its already doing that

[somber axle]

This would be a really funny nerf. Any Vet who uses VoC religiously but doesn't read patch notes would suddenly die over and over without knowing why

[tiny summit]

That would be so funny with all the backstab bonuses and how much CDR you can have off backstabs.

[crimson pebble]

Wouldve made getting that fuck ass loner out of coherence penance a lot easier

[shadow aurora]

Loner aura just shouldn't exist

That shit is rank game design

[somber axle]

Loner penance sucked to earn because people see you sprint off and decide to try to follow you and hug your side LOL

Can't even keep the penance active for long because people will literally sprint up next to you to fall to their knees trying to make sure you're not alone

[crimson pebble]

I was having that same shit guy was glued onto me and then i queued into a match after and the same mfr was there

I was bitching about to my buddy the joined up w him and as soon as the guy popped in i had a heart attack and yelled its him he was the one!!

[umbral parrot]

Let your team die, solo the rest.

[tiny summit]

Still think the main issue of the loner penance is the fact overall releasing a challenge overhaul update as its sole content just makes everyone focus grind them because theres nothing else added to the game wouldve been great to have at the start of the game though

[hearty panther]

you uh

forgot people grinded out the original ones too

because people are degenerate

[crimson pebble]

Yea but their wasnt nearly as much shit as a reward before

[hearty panther]

and the main issue with loner penance is that loner sucks and the penance makes three assumptions about its use which aren't even particularly true or relevant to loner

[tiny summit]

Man people really grinded penances for portraits and penance good boy points

[umbral parrot]

Totally agree. But just wait till people say "You're not forced to play these challenges."

[hearty panther]

youre not

[crimson pebble]

‼️

[umbral parrot]

Still sucks that it does affect gameplay

[somber axle]

I just wanted the new funny stances and new outfits tbh

[hearty panther]

the reality is loner penance should have been "Generate 1000 toughness while alone with Loner Aura" but they realized it takes ten years of gameplay for that to happen because Loner sucks so they contrived this instead

[umbral parrot]

Though I do like to pat myself on the back when I save a guy who is doing the Auric challenges. They're greatful and it's cute~

[somber axle]

I already had most class penances done

[crimson pebble]

The only class penance thats killing me is the private game zealot one

[tiny summit]

Obviously the loner penance strat is joining auric heresy and farming enemies when your team dies

[umbral parrot]

How about Vet's crab walk penances? Lol, that was silly.

[somber axle]

The frames and titles were mostly just a fun bonus to earn while working up to the outfits

[umbral parrot]

I love the new outfits

[tiny summit]

MF was easy and you never had to crabwalk ever in the existence of the keystone.

[umbral parrot]

The vet's one are the best

[somber axle]

I didn't crab walk because I am a clown so I made a Lawbringer Manstopper and Scattershot set up using Marksman's Focus and Camo to obliterate hordes and earn the penance by memeing it into being fun

[tiny summit]

Ty fatshark I can be a certified ASS Varlet

[hearty panther]

i just played it as intended lol

[covert timber]

The veteran class is literally jack of all trades of course it’s a great class

[umbral parrot]

Huh, never thought of that. Oh well

[crimson pebble]

I was thinking this mid game when i realized i could just do the crab walk

[distant girder]

How's this for a roll?

[crimson pebble]

Stinky

[umbral parrot]

Crab walk and powersword did most of the work

[crimson pebble]

But usable

[covert timber]

Dope

[somber axle]

I have very limited time to play Darktide outside of working so doing it the normal way or doing it the crabwalk way was never going to be how I would do it if I could find any other way to. I don't have the time to grind THAT much for it trying to do it more legitimately and I also don't find it fun spending 30 min on my knees. I let go of the crab life when I stopped playing TF2. Spycrab my beloved...

[umbral parrot]

Not bad, you want Stopping Power and Damage

[midnight totem]

You can take the crab out of tf2

[covert timber]

I actually made kharn the betrayer as a build

[midnight totem]

But you can't take the crab out of... fuck I messed up the metaphor

[covert timber]

But not the tf2 out of the crab?

[somber axle]

You can take the crab out of TF2
But you can't take the crab out of TFYou

[midnight totem]

ASS vets are the best

[somber axle]

[umbral parrot]

It's actually kinda fun to crabwalk. Rely on dodges instead of positioning.

[midnight totem]

I should know. I'm an ASS vet. Also the best.

[covert timber]

Is that an acronym?

[umbral parrot]

No

[tiny summit]

Title for being best boy

[distant girder]

For perks or blessings?.

[covert timber]

I just find stuff with big stats then use those I rolled a rapid fire pistol with 70’s and 80’s

[tiny summit]

Its plasma. Pretty much the main points are dmg, stopping power and gets hot

[covert timber]

My brother in the emperor it’s 80 in damage

[umbral parrot]

I'd say swap out Volatile and Stamina.

Put in Blazeaway and Maniac/Unyielding/Flak

[tiny summit]

Your other 3/4 are kinda shit though. Unoptimal but its plasma so still usable

[umbral parrot]

Then again.... Ammo is low. I'd put Elite Hunter for extra toughness regen.

[crimson pebble]

Maniac on the plasma

[umbral parrot]

Never enough maniac damage

[tiny summit]

They should make a shadow update and put carapace dogs and trappers

[umbral parrot]

Lol

[somber axle]

Carapace dogs would be hilarious

Please do this

[umbral parrot]

If a carapace trapper was louder then I would not mind

[somber axle]

Carapace Dogs hunting grounds when??

[crimson pebble]

Make them like the huntshowdown dogs carapace heads

[tiny summit]

April Fools Day update and its "oops all carapace"

[umbral parrot]

Imagine being a traitor guardsmen and then seeing a dog getting more armor than you.

Very 40k

[somber axle]

Carapace Plogryn too

[tiny summit]

The good boy needs to be protected

[somber axle]

Full body like the Crusher

[tiny summit]

Dog cant be a traitor. Just loyal boi

[tough tiger]

no beloved that is not a good dog

[tiny summit]

That is a threatening user name to see "is typing..."

[covert timber]

The only good dog is a good dog

[gilded wraith]

Trying to drop this into wartide, but not seeing any results. Any obvious issues? (Trying to figure out if 25% unarmored is vital)

[covert timber]

Those some good stats

[gilded wraith]

Yeah... 6 others sitting around that weren't as fortunate.

[terse idol]

Yes unarmoured is vital

For scab brusier BP

[gilded wraith]

My hope is they are high enough that I can skip unarmored and grab flak, testing it out in the pysk right now.

[gilded wraith]

Gotcha, leaves me just shy of one-hitting the barechested one with the flak head unless I have heattaker stacks.

[covert timber]

I mean unarmored is good against stuff like poxwalkers, hounds, hoard clearing stats

[terse idol]

Poxwalkers aren't like the thing to focus on like

[somber axle]

Poxwalkers count as infested for armour type. Groaners count as unarmoured though

[arctic rampart]

Infested are the real enemy?!

[terse idol]

With the rashad, running BM means you'll still get massive cleave on Poxwalkers, iirc even if you don't have unarmoured you'll still be able to cleave the max amount

[somber axle]

Hounds are also infested armour type

[terse idol]

Not running unarmiured means you only cleave 1 or 1.5 for scab brusiers

Compared to a max cleave of 4

With unarmoured

[somber axle]

Do you think we'll get some sort of Mechanicus related outfit for the next update?

[crimson pebble]

Both of those are considered infested not unarmored tho i think

Could just play zealot and have that as a free perk as a node basically

[covert timber]

I don’t know the difference I just use whatever is the most fun to use

[terse idol]

NOW TO BE FAIR

Running infested doesn't really like

Affect your fun

It just doesn't really do much

[sterile garnet]

@white minnow bad

[feral bay]

I had someone doing this penance this morning, and they communicated, so we stayed away from them as best we could, helped them get more on the penance. They were very grateful.

[low jetty]

any other veterans doing the marksman penance while duck walking throughout your games?

https://tenor.com/view/sprint-master-walk-duck-waddle-gif-16629770

im glad that also applies to melee as well

the feels like torture

[feral bay]

The problem is the standing still bit.

[low jetty]

THATS A DEATH SENTENCE

[terse idol]

You don't have to stand still

[low jetty]

id rather duck walk and dash backwards to progress than standing still with mob spawning behind

[terse idol]

Like

Unless you're like me and run Lasgun IG

With MF

exe, and added toughness generation

You can easily generate stacks by just getting 3 headshots

[low jetty]

my current lasgun to help me through the penance

[covert timber]

Good stats

[terse idol]

I run mf, exe and added toughness on kill and toughness on max stacks of MF so I can literally stand still and face tank enemies

But you don't need to stand still

[low jetty]

thx thx im so surprise i was able to pop a few scab elites with this

[terse idol]

And even if you doooo standing still long enough to get max stacks of MF isn't actually that bad

[covert timber]

It’s 100% more headshot damage

[low jetty]

squat for days, thats how the imperium taught me hahaha

[terse idol]

😭

Crab vet is real

[covert timber]

actually it’s 120% due to the second blessing more because of vet

[low jetty]

trust me its real alright... side dodging CRUSHES around a corner while shooting point blank!!!!

[somber axle]

That's very nice. A lot of the time problems can be solved with communication I probably should have just told people I was doing the penance instead of trying run off solo LOL

[feral bay]

You'd be surprised at how often just telling people you're doing something ends up helping the thing you're doing.

[covert timber]

Sweet

[somber axle]

Yeah but that requires talking to people and I'm really bad at that LOL

[low jetty]

lore vs gameplay las guns fr ahaha

[feral bay]

Then don't talk! Give 'em a command like a real veteran!

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-digital-circus-pomni-shaking-shivering-trembling-gif-1815100900790237791

[terse idol]

Sneaky cat being bad at communication when they spend an hour defending their clown recon build

[feral bay]

[somber axle]

Yes LOL

[low jetty]

ummm....when ya put it like dat i must be the clowniest of them all

crit burn & close point blank

[covert timber]

That’s some Dakka

[somber axle]

Recon Mk VIIa is arguably the strongest of the Recons imo

Requires the least amount of juice to function well

[low jetty]

BOTH STILL SUCK

spent 80% of a clip to kill 1 mauler

[somber axle]

I think Recon Mk VId can be juiced into doing sillier things with Onslaught but for general play the Recon Mk VIIa is the best performer

[terse idol]

The mg12 is sadge

I do believe the mk4 is like sickening

[somber axle]

Not if you're me

[terse idol]

But the carpal tunnel

Is too real

[covert timber]

Not if you use melee

[muted knot]

If you dont mind me asking what is this Clown creature ? Ive been seeing it around recently

[somber axle]

Pomni from the Digital Circus. It's a free independent animation to view on YouTube by an indie animation studio

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-digital-circus-pomni-caine-pinch-cheeks-pinching-cheeks-gif-12633850890597981331

[somber axle]

I've bought their merchandise and have watched their 2 episodes released because I really like the universe LOL

[covert timber]

Amazing digital circuses main character don’t search just click the link

To it on YouTube

[somber axle]

I want to get a Pomni costume and dress up for Halloween this year

[low jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-digital-circus-pomni-tadc-gif-2687043715352497432

[low jetty]

why would i ahahaha

[somber axle]

Not everyone can fill the clown shoes. They're pretty big shoes. Comically sized even

They're awkward and they will trip you up if you don't know how to wear them and walk in them

[low jetty]

not a revovler guy but im doing it because of that other annoying penance, weapon specialist

[low jetty]

I HAVE CLOWN HEADS AS FOOTWEAR

https://tenor.com/view/gta-ego-raptor-rocket-launcher-bazooka-gif-3519066

how it feels doing weapon specialist penance

[feral bay]

Did you aim at the belly, and have any amount of rending?

[low jetty]

anywhere around upper half, gotta take into accout i need to dodge mobs while spraying

[feral bay]

Well, I'm not sure about from behind, but I know the front of their head is carapace, so that may not be helping.

[low jetty]

lets see them tank this

less than 5 shots on mauler, rager and crusher

[terse idol]

Maulers heads are just all carapace

You definetly just wanna body shot them unless you can like put em down in a few shots with a headshot

[low jetty]

tried, still take up lot of ammo

[terse idol]

(You could maybe make more damage replacing weak spot damage with carapace)

[low jetty]

youre right, one sec

[astral ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/im-turning-into-pomni-the-amazing-digital-circus-gif-10101194885076146557

[low jetty]

DONE

[terse idol]

[midnight totem]

Point blank doesn't work properly

It only procs off kills you make with the revolvers melee bash

Highly suggest you swap it out for surgical or crucian

[low jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/boneworks-kms-suicide-cockandballtortureisfunnyhaha-revolver-gif-19983342

ivefailed the emepra

[midnight totem]

Sweet. -loots your body-

[low jetty]

will sustained fire help?

+20% dmg on 3rd and forth shot in a salvo

aint got surgical

[somber axle]

I made my current partner watch it just so they know who I will be dressing up as LOL

[midnight totem]

It's actually on the 2d, 3rd, and 4th. But it works

Which is better than I can say for point blank

[thick kestrel]

looks adorable... is also endless well of existential despair and horror. Gooseworks in a nutshell ^^

[tawny badger]

hounds mauling you when they get hit by a gentle summer's breeze:

https://tenor.com/view/pokemongoservers-gif-7628487

[somber axle]

I also bought the Animatez figure and it is next to my computer monitor beside all my Fallout bobbleheads and Funkos

[astral ingot]

NO POMNI WATCH OUT HE'S ON THE ROOF

[somber axle]

But I don't have a pic of the animatez figure on my phone

I want to get all the plushies but I need to clear more space to display them LOL

I also have the poster up on my wall behind my computer

[gilded rock]

hounds when you pour fifty bullets into them

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-stone-ocean-jojo-jojos-bizarre-adventure-stare-gif-23997267

[tame lodge]

Who gave the Aiag such recoil pattern

[midnight totem]

the unpaid manufactorum workers?

[feral bay]

Where's the Gummigoo keychain?

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-rads-radiation-counter-gif-6369229076219259168

[silk finch]

Whats best rolls on a Accatran for lasgun build

[austere pine]

brick?

[dreamy spade]

howd u even get this animation lol

[austere pine]

my guess is mods but like

idk

[agile forge]

Which accatran

There are 3 recon lasguns and a laspistol from that manufactorum

[dreamy spade]

Nah it just randomly played when i inspected, no mods

[silk finch]

oh the rapid fire madness 1

[last parcel]

it’s random when you inspect

[austere pine]

you can inspect?????

[agile forge]

The super fast one is the 6d

Slow recon is the 7a

[silk finch]

this one, so what would i build ?

[agile forge]

And the worthless piece of shit one is the 2

You need a clown for that

@somber axle see above

But I think most people take infernus on it

And not sure what else

[last parcel]

headhunter

[agile forge]

I am not a recon manthing

[last parcel]

maniac damage

dumdum/infernus

[silk finch]

mm so going in right direction with this 1

[finite cobalt]

Help me pick the drip

[bitter turtle]

Sneaky uses 6

Nobody uses 2

There's just no point

[last parcel]

i use 2

i also want to die

[silk finch]

would you say maniac damage is better than crit chance ?

[bitter turtle]

I don't really think crit chance is all that great honestly

[last parcel]

you get crit chance from headhunter. recons do half damage to maniacs by default so maniac perk helps make up for it

[bitter turtle]

Flaniac best imo

[silk finch]

right ok, was just thinking of procing the shock trooper perk but i guess headhunter covers that

[bitter turtle]

It does proc it yes

But would you really spend a perk slot on 10% more ammo?

Being very generous with 10%

I don't think it really maths out to that

The actual avg dmg boost from 5% crit is tiny

I also wanna mention

I think 7 is better if you don't go for the meme onslaught build

[silk finch]

whats the benifits of the 7 ? slower but higher dmg ?

[last parcel]

and a bit of cleave

[agile forge]

Better antiarmour from the gun itself too, and better cleave

But iirc 6 does better into armour with talents

[last parcel]

hey what’s that honking sound

[somber axle]

I don't have that yet LOL but it will be on my lanyard for all my keys and my work badge when I get it

[last parcel]

AAAAAA

[oblique totem]

Honk

[somber axle]

Hi I cannot assist right now, very busy work day

[bitter turtle]

6d basically shoots 2x the bullets st half the dmg

So their dps is the same on paper

And yes that is factoring headhunter, the avg dps is still the same

But 7 has cleave

Can shoot through allies and weaker enemies

[austere pine]

i just experienced a normal mission damn maelstrom where two people were sub 30 and the other 30 was a recon las vet

one guy was lvl 20?

[bitter turtle]

It's a significant boost

[austere pine]

not saying it's impossible to do but what the fuck

[agile forge]

6 stacks infernus better

[bitter turtle]

The downside is just, it procs onslaught worse cause lower fire rate

Infernus is a meme anyway

Even on 6 usually dumdum is better

[agile forge]

It's decent if your RoF is high enough afaik

[bitter turtle]

Anyway about onslaught, I think it's a trap anyway

[agile forge]

Anti-big guys tech

[bitter turtle]

4 pts just to kill crushers

[agile forge]

How high does it stack anyway

[bitter turtle]

If you test it against dumdum

It's lower dps

Until you get very far away

[agile forge]

Fair enough

I am, again, not a recon manthing

[bitter turtle]

It's acceptable on 6

But its not like you're missing out on a lot by going 7 and running dumdum

Is what I mean

[austere pine]

i suppose today is not the day to be doing assassination maelstroms...

so many buffoons queueing in

[plucky cosmos]

Thanks Hadron

[austere pine]

should have given up at purple

[agile forge]

Yeah that was already unsalvagable

[plucky cosmos]

i got alot of plasteel so i don't mind

[somber axle]

Recon Mk VIIa has too little damage vs Carapace and too slow fire rate to capitalize on Onslaught but as long as someone brings an anti-Carapace melee it is fine

I'd probably say the Recon Mk VIIa is the better generalist weapon just because it can't use Onslaught so you save talent points

[bitter turtle]

Yea that's why I said it's better specifically if you don't onslaught meme

I mathed out headhunter cause I thought 6d would benefit more from that but it actually doesn't

So it's just onslaught

Well

And infernus

Lol

[iron marten]

so what's the ideal way to build a recon 7

[bitter turtle]

Headhunter dumdum

Full left and middle

[iron marten]

gotcha

[bitter turtle]

Ignore right tree

At the bottom I mean

[iron marten]

well, I need to right tree cause I'm gonna use knife

ah

[bitter turtle]

Well

You can dip a bit into it if you want

[iron marten]

it's ok, I run knife and helbore, this should be fine

[bitter turtle]

Maybe something like this then idk

[hidden torrent]

What is going on with Sedition gang playing in Auric Maelstrom

[iron marten]

is surv necessary?

[bitter turtle]

It's still a recon

So yeah kinda

You can try without tho

[hidden torrent]

Sick ad

[iron marten]

no... my beloved... close and kill

[bitter turtle]

I mean

It just depends on how you plat

Play

You can go full melee and never use gun and still win in scoreboard elite kill and dmg

So go c&k if you want

[hidden torrent]

Yeah that's not too hard to do

[iron marten]

I

[hidden torrent]

Everyone likes to star gaze it seems

[bitter turtle]

And see if you feel like you go red too much

[iron marten]

I'll just rely on knife for crushers and maulers

[covert timber]

You can actually make a explosive build with veteran

[bitter turtle]

yeah i mean

take all grenade talents

[covert timber]

And it’s not that bad

[bitter turtle]

most ppl call that the secret 4th keystone

grenade keystone

lol

[hidden torrent]

That's what I used for a long time

Plasma PS and Krak

[bitter turtle]

drop the actual keystones and just grab every nade

[iron marten]

jesus. the auto-discard is set to 365 lmao

[hidden torrent]

69, nice

[covert timber]

How the heck you auto it?

[hidden torrent]

I roll 370's with a pretty good amount of time I never felt I needed that mod

[bitter turtle]

mod to auto sell

[iron marten]

Buy Until Rating mod

[bitter turtle]

i dont use the mod

but i should

not bc buying is a pain

but bc selling is a pain

lol

they should let you highlight multiple things and sell all at once

instead you tediously havce to go through each individually

[iron marten]

well, it's 3/4 bricked, but I can deal with groaner poxwalker damage lol

[somber axle]

Headhunter is always optimal on the Recons regardless of which variant

[bitter turtle]

no i meant

if 6d has any other advantages

i thought in theory HH is better on 6d than 7 which would be another advantage for 6

the thing is yeah it procs it twice(? not exactly) as often

for half the damage and guzzles the ammo faster too

so actually its p much the same thing

[small loom]

holy shit Big E

change elites to Carapace or maniac? and slaughter to cyler?

not elites, unarmored

[agile forge]

Yep

Getting rid of slaughterer 4 feels wrong though lmao

[austere mica]

The only thing you need carapace for on the mk6 is the funny poke overhead 2 shot on a crusher

[agile forge]

It's the right call but I still have patch 12 brain

[austere mica]

If you meet that grab something else

[agile forge]

Elites might cover you on that yeah

[small loom]

too bad cycler is way too good

[agile forge]

Check if you can 2shot snap Crushers and mutants

[small loom]

ima test before i change

[agile forge]

and bromentum or sunder

Slaughterer is a distant #4

[small loom]

looks like power stab is inconsitent 2 tap crusher

reliable 3 tap tho

[agile forge]

You're doing the push attack light attack combo right

It follows up with the L4 overhead

[small loom]

not just push attack?

[tall torrent]

Elite can hit it

[tall torrent]

No

Keep elite

Swap unarmored to maniac

Slaughterer to power cycler

[agile forge]

The PA L4 combo is better

[somber axle]

Headhunter/Infernus performs better as a combo on the Mk VId compared to any of the other Recons because of the fast fire rate stacking headhunter faster for more crit strings in a shorter time span pushing Infernus to max stacks faster than the Recon Mk VIIa. The faster fire rate also stacks Dum Dum faster which isn't a major difference tbh. But Infernus isn't an option for the VIIa. It's too slow even with Headhunter to make it stack fast enough to achieve any tangible benefit. You never want Infernus on a VIIa but you can use Infernus on a VId because the difference in damage at close ranges isn't as big as many may imagine and the TTK is equivalent on even beefier targets

Dum Dum is optimal for damage on both but Infernus can pull off funny moments like spraying a hound to light it on fire in the split second before it leaps behind a corner/crate and is beyond view

These are very niche scenarios but in that moment the Infernus burns the dog to death where the Dum Dum waits for the dog to return to finish it off

And because sometimes you can let a target's last bit of health burn it out, you can save more ammo

A Recon Mk VId using my set up with Duck and Dive swapped for Close Quarters Kill Zone isn't too big a difference compared to the same Recon Mk VId swapping Infernus for Dum Dum and it ends up being 200-300 DPS with minimal change in TTK for a Crusher

They both use 5 ammo to kill a Crusher

That's probably the most beefy example where you would expect the largest difference

For softer targets the impact is even less

I wouldn't call a Recon Mk VId bricked if it gets bad blessings and perks but one of those blessings is Infernus IV

But I would count a Recon Mk VIIa roll with Infernus IV as weak and not worth using compared to my other Recon Mk VIIas

Carapace perk doesn't brick a Recon Mk VId but it does brick a Recon Mk VIIa

There are some advantages to the Recon Mk VId over the Recon Mk VIIa that are not immediately apparent unless you are a clown who has spent an unreasonable amount of time playing with them

[bitter turtle]

yeah I mentioned infernus being acceptable on 6d

i just meant even on 6d its not exactly an upgrade over dumdum

it performs better at range and worse close up

so losing it as an option isnt really a big sadge for 7

[oblique totem]

I thought you were at work?

[bitter turtle]

it can just run HH/dumdum

and HH itself doesnt actually perform much better on 6d since the crits are less significvant individually

so the only thing you really lose is the option to go onslaught meme

but the + you get is increased cleave

[somber axle]

I am

It is lunch time LOL

Eating a salad before I hit the gym

[agile forge]

Well HH also boosts infernus itself

It's a synergy

[feral bay]

You got nuts in that salad? Gonna need proteins.

[oblique totem]

So you just eat salad and clownpost?

[last parcel]

that's so based

[somber axle]

Burning Crushers for the memes is what gives me life

[somber axle]

Yes

[somber axle]

No

[oblique totem]

It is pretty based, though

[somber axle]

Carrots and spinach. I also had cucumbers but I ate them all

[feral bay]

And egg!

Protien achieved.

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/chocolate-spongebob-fish-rage-love-chocolate-gif-4938413

[somber axle]

LMFAO I wish

I have someone flying in to visit me so I want to be a bit more health conscious and lose a little weight

We're definitely going swimming

[hearty panther]

the trick to having a beach body is to be thin enough that if you turn sideways nobody can see you anymore and then you can do whatever the feck you want

[somber axle]

I miss my high school and college metabolism so much

[hearty panther]

i kinda do, but also, i dont

[somber axle]

I could eat an entire pizza and just not change at all

[hearty panther]

eating 3,000 calories a day is just

time consuming and exhausting

and expensive???

[somber axle]

Not when you're in high school with parents who have funny money to let you enjoy doing funny things

[hearty panther]

i never had funny money

but we were fed

[somber axle]

I have funny money now which is why I bought every single Elysian outfit for all classes when it was released

[hearty panther]

oh i get to do stuff like that, but

its not out of any kind of wealth lul

i have minimized my life as much as possible

except for the cigarettes, sigh

[somber axle]

Mine isn't wealth either. As soon as I was in college I stopped being able to have funny money and needed to make it myself

My parents are not like

[hearty panther]

i could have twice the money and fifty quadrillion times the lung capacity

[somber axle]

Generational wealth types

They just have very well paying jobs and could afford to throw money at problems

[somber axle]

I have an immense fear of cigarette smoke. I do not smoke but I am often around people who do through my work

Second hand smoke gave my aunt lung cancer

I do not want to fall into that too

[hearty panther]

eh

thats statistically insane and unfortunate, so i wouldnt worry

lung cancer has always existed, it was just exceedingly rare before WWI

then we started stuffing cigarettes into every soldier's ration box and here we are

[somber axle]

You'd be surprised at how much people smoke here in Vegas. People smoke in the casinos like they're speedrunning a lung disease LOL

And I'm in one of the nice resorts with good ventilation to keep it more under control

It can still be a problem

[hearty panther]

mostly it's just very gross

[somber axle]

I used to have a rule against dating anyone who smokes but bent the rule for dating someone special who doesn't smoke cigarettes and mostly just does medical marijuana for a condition they have

But like yeah cigarettes are pretty disgusting

The only thing I find more disgusting than cigarettes are those weird things people who smoke tend to chew and spit out

[hearty panther]

dip

[somber axle]

No idea what they're called but they're nasty

[hearty panther]

snu

lots of names

all disgusting

[bitter turtle]

i mean if you think about it

HH also boosts dumdum

you do more damage = you do bigger crit

also

i dont smoke

because it smells like shit

and kills you

but i gotta admit

smoking looks cool

[hearty panther]

wish it would kill me faster

nah its super terribly not cool

[somber axle]

My brother used to vape and it was weird that he could make smoke clouds do funny things and they'd smell like cotton candy

[hearty panther]

everyone pictures the totally composed and in control dude in a suit having a careful drag or whatever

basically spike spiegel

real smoking is going out in the freezing cold with a partially dead lighter, swearing to yourself as you drop the cigarette in a muddy snow puddle by a dirty car tire and picking it up and still putting it between your lips

and you have to

[agile forge]

I only smoke the green stuff shrug

Tobacco makes me shit

[bitter turtle]

i mean thats what i mean by looks cool

if you're drawing art or someshit

or doing a movie

[hearty panther]

yeah thats marketing

[bitter turtle]

it looks badass

[somber axle]

I have never done any drugs that were not explicitly medically prescribed to me

[bitter turtle]

just not irl

[hearty panther]

not me. doctors are squares. i think i know what the cool drugs are way better than them.

[somber axle]

But I am sorta curious about trying edibles one day

[last parcel]

human flesh kinda overrated

[somber axle]

I do not want to smoke but trying an edible feels more harmless than drinking and I've gotten blackout drunk before so

[bitter turtle]

i dont drink

or do drugs

im a good christian

[somber axle]

I've arguably done worse than whatever I could experience with an edible

[bitter turtle]

except for the christian part

[hearty panther]

darcy get out of here

[somber axle]

I drink because as a young clown I was very gullible and easily caved to peer pressure LOL

I do not like drinking and avoid drinking most times. I only drink for special occasions

[hearty panther]

i dont anymore

[somber axle]

I had this drink called Purple Haze or something at a place called the Twisted Kilt in Vegas and it was probably my first time ever drinking aside from having a single beer before that moment

I only had two drinks and I do not remember that night but luckily I was with friends who got me back to my hotel room LOL

My first experience with vodka is that I like it but I should not have it

I looked up the menu and like

This was so, so good

[hearty panther]

$14 yeesh

[agile forge]

Fwiw

Alcohol is drugs

It's just looked on kinder by the law

[hearty panther]

no alcohol is a not-drug because uh

uhhh

-checks notes-

-flips single cue card back and forth-

[somber axle]

You should see the drink prices at a Vegas sports game

[agile forge]

Because Nixon basically

[hearty panther]

this just says "because whites do it"

[somber axle]

Try $27 for a "specialty" drink

LOL

[agile forge]

And Anslinger

I'd like to bring both of them back to life

So I can put them back in the ground myself

[hearty panther]

right

so sad how henry kissinger only died once

[bitter turtle]

caffeine is a drug too

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/fry-futurama-coffee-shaking-pouring-gif-4674698

[bitter turtle]

imo they're only acccepted because they increase productivity and put you on edge

gotta make make sure you're a good little worker bee

but that's just my unsubstantiated theory

[bitter turtle]

honestly tells you all you need to know about our leaders when they ccall people like him their good old friend and shit

[old quail]

do not speak that evil incantation

it brings bad tidings

[hearty panther]

yea see ur here now

[old quail]

it's true

[hearty panther]

wonder what kind of trolling darcy is up to

[old quail]

i saw them and a couple other creatures who were forcibly removed from this server in the helldivers discord

[hearty panther]

man

cant believe the big patch was just "game is easier"

[somber axle]

The Helldivers discord is such a weird place

[hearty panther]

i dont bother with any of the community spaces anymore

it's fukken Gamers(tm) top to bottom

[old quail]

the nuke mission has some absurd spawns for the objectives

thats about it

[bitter turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-09gNDsPzQ

[somber axle]

This place is ok

You are all normal enough to not scare off a clown

[old quail]

the mainstream helldivers balance stuff is overall p fuckin insane though

people will post clips like "this is why ppl don't play bots" and its them running to cover and immediately turning around to run away while shit shoots at them

and the clip starts with them at half health and they never heal

and it's like if this is too hard for you i think we need to consider playing the lego ninjago games instead or smth

(almost every comment is like "yeah it's insane", nobody ever questions the gameplay)

[unique orchid]

how's this for a mk7

[bitter turtle]

looks good

unyielding to maniac

[hearty panther]

"What was i supposed to do here??"

• standing in the open
• all weapons are empty
• no grenades left
• resupply is not on cooldown
• no strategems available
• nowhere near an objective

[bitter turtle]

hit and run to Headhunter

[old quail]

lmao

[somber axle]

Bug Divers are an anomaly who simultaneously say bug ops are harder but then complain about bot missions by saying they're too hard LMFAO

[last parcel]

bro cooked

[old quail]

like i took a 2-ish month break and recently came back and its just

hard to lose

(playing with friends ig i dont do pubs)

[hearty panther]

thats exactly it

it is hard to lose, even with pubs

like if youre someone who dies once or twice at most in a round

you get 20 lives

you're fine

[somber axle]

Very nice. I'd also swap Hit and Run to Headhunter

Oh wait they said that

[hearty panther]

and having 20 lives and instant reinforce if everyone gets blasted at once just kills all the tension

[unique orchid]

need to get headhunter first

[old quail]

yeah

[bitter turtle]

i didnt play HD2 but I did try DRG with a friend

[hearty panther]

maybe theyll add three extra difficulties eventually lol

[bitter turtle]

idk they're superficially similar to DT but i couldnt get into it

[old quail]

i kinda like the spawn changes because they added in behemoths and ranged patrols which has shooken up the gameplay somewhat

[hearty panther]

then ill check it out again

[last parcel]

I AM A DWARF AND I'M DIGGING A HOLE

[bitter turtle]

i just wanna run in and kill shit like a psycho

[old quail]

but it's just routine for the vast majority if you know what you're doing

[bitter turtle]

didnt bother with HD2 cause it looked too TPS hide behind cover and do shit to me

[hearty panther]

to me though Helldivers 2 was a solved game back in March and Arrowhead has proceeded to buff the player, the player's weapons, the strategems, nerf the negative modifiers, nerf enemy damage, nerf enemy quanitites, and nerf enemy health

so it's like

the fuck am i doin here

[old quail]

that's what ppl want ig

[hearty panther]

meanwhile the greater community at large still isnt ready to accept that yes, actually, the original Orbital Strike is better than the auto-tracking one

[torn moat]

Is Onsluaght worth the investment if I'm running Agri IAG?

[hearty panther]

because aiming to them is a horrifying prospect

[bitter turtle]

its ok

[torn moat]

Onslaught*

[somber axle]

HD2 is fun with friends because you can absolutely play very aggressively running in and killing things if you know what you're doing but also some people can just play 100% stealth and wipe maps with low effort

[bitter turtle]

but not that great

[old quail]

precision strike fucks

gatling barrage now is kinda absurd

[bitter turtle]

if you insist on killing crushers with your gun you can still run it (onslaught)

[hearty panther]

ye my buddy mentioned gatling is hilarious now

[somber axle]

HD2 is a game that seems shallow on the surface but has a neat amount of complexity to it

[hearty panther]

he was already using it constantly

that thing was super good for holding down groups

staggered almost everything it didnt kill

[bitter turtle]

ids not that i mean its shallow

i guess the problem is like

at least with DRG

i felt lik ei was standing around a lot doing objectives or setting up pipes or someshit i forget

or looking for shit

[somber axle]

Oh then yeah

[bitter turtle]

i just wanna run in and kill shit surrounded by mobs

[old quail]

helldivers has some neat stuff to it but it's no darktide in terms of feeling like i have to figure stuff out and learn the esoteric secrets of weird swedish game design

[hearty panther]

yes despite the maps/planets being procedurally generated the objective points are just pre-set tiles

[somber axle]

HD2 has a lot of running to objectives

[bitter turtle]

ya

[hearty panther]

so you are ultimately just doing the same thing in the same place

with a new skybox