veteran-class

[charred dome]

if you really want to run a team regen build I'd run book zealot

I rarely see them but they're cracked af

[sturdy zephyr]

Since you will focusing special that mostly range other tham mutie n hounds. So squishy if got swarmed.

[snow cypress]

do zealots have also toughness regeneration to the team?

[sturdy zephyr]

Other than that.you good to go

[charred dome]

one of their abilities is literally

[snow cypress]

oh right

[charred dome]

a constant shout that regens lmao

[snow cypress]

I completely forgot about it

[charred dome]

I don't know shit about zealot but I'm sure there's some jacked up ability modifiers in there

you can take this or 20% damage for everyone

[snow cypress]

I'll check it

[charred dome]

I rarely see book zealots but when I do

hot damn that's a nice ability to bring

[agile forge]

Most zealots who take chorus take neither

Of the two I'd definitely take the damage boost over the TDR boost though

since you already have 100 gold toughness from chorus itself

you don't really need the tdr for while it lasts

[charred dome]

I figured it'd be overkill lmao

I don't know squat about zealot though

[snow cypress]

I'm seeing zealot's talent tree and has barely talents that gives toughness to the teammates

[charred dome]

You have an aura that stuns enemies for a good long duration and gives everyone toughness as your ability

If you're trying to drown everyone in free toughness 24/7 yeah idk how you'd get that

Best way to give everyone toughness is by killing/disabling shit so they can't get hurt in the first place

[snow cypress]

[agile forge]

Tbh chorus is kinda unpopular as an ability because you can't do much while channelling it but I think it's great if you can trust your team to actually do shit

unfortunately you can't always, lol

[charred dome]

Yeah you're just kinda stuck there channeling it and hoping your team takes advantage of everything in your zip code being stunned

[agile forge]

also doesn't help that the other two options are just so crazily powerful

fury of the faithful does literally everything

[snow cypress]

I think I prefer vet as they have more talents that gives toughness and all that stuff to teammates

[charred dome]

They're not looking for selfbuffs is the thing they just want to give everyone else toughness

[snow cypress]

yeah

[charred dome]

I'm just saying, the stagger alone on voice of command + the toughness you give everyone else is insane

All the damage buffs YOU get are just the cherry on top

You need to remember that shit has a SUPER short cooldown for what it does

Not even going to mention the CD reductions you can nab

6s off on specialist kill is uh yeah that's a lot of uptime lol

[snow cypress]

and which keystone would be good

Focus Target?

[charred dome]

I'm looking at weapons specialist but I mean

[snow cypress]

That would be good

I've never used it

[charred dome]

It really depends on what you're building

weapons and all that

[snow cypress]

yeah,i'm not sure about the weapons yet

I have always played stealth vet so with Zarona so I have 0 idea about other weapons lol

[tall torrent]

no cuz it's a 1 tap focused weapon

[snow cypress]

Is there any problem if i use no keystone?

[charred dome]

you're missing out on a LOT lol

[snow cypress]

yeah

[tall torrent]

On veteran? You’re losing out on Dmg

[snow cypress]

Really?

Oh well

[dreamy spade]

No you're not

Weapon specialist is good but it's niche

[snow cypress]

Which Weapon specialist talents would be good, for the toughness generator?

[tall torrent]

Unless you’re playing smth like onslaught

Usually taking at least focus target would help u deal more Dmg

Focus target + redirect fire/target down is pretty good

[snow cypress]

I like this to get more toughness

XDDDD

[coral willow]

heard this doesnt work while out of stamina

[charred dome]

Yeah taht's why he has so much stamina out the ass lmao

[snow cypress]

Is focus target max stacks talent worth it?

[tall torrent]

Take target down and/or redirect fire depending on ur weapon

8 stacks is not worth it

[snow cypress]

Ig Target down as i want to generate toughness

[tall torrent]

this depends on ur weapon

redirect fire helps a lot of weapons hit breakpoints

[snow cypress]

Idk yet which weapon I'll use

[coral willow]

if we get longlas
what would it do good on a vet or whoever gets it

[tall torrent]

High Dmg & cleave, high bodyshot Dmg with massive finesse multiplier, slow rate of fire, comes with optic
Smth like that

Helbore bodyshot isn’t very good

[coral willow]

does longlas have pen in tabletop

cause i can imagine plasma going through stuff

not longlas

[tall torrent]

At least cleave through lower mass enemies

[coral willow]

fair helbore does that

[somber axle]

Same

Very good for squad support and feeds my Deadshot addiction

[terse idol]

To be fair it's pretty goood

Get the talent that gains more toughness

And now you get more toughness per

[snow cypress]

yeah

I'm still doubtful about the weapons

[coral willow]

the new ones we gettin?

[snow cypress]

no,about which weapons should I use for a build

[coral willow]

zarona revolver cause its overpowered

[thick kestrel]

whichever one you find the most fun really, there's very few truely awful options at the moment. some are better certainly, but find the one which puts a grin on your face or feels the nicest.

[snow cypress]

zarona is really good,i use it in my stealth knife vet

[snow cypress]

But i want to make a toughness generator vet,which weapon do you recommned?

[terse idol]

Anything works with VOC

[snow cypress]

VOC? what does that mean?

[terse idol]

Voice of command

[thick kestrel]

voice of command, the shout ability 🙂

[snow cypress]

oh

[coral willow]

only inspiring barrage for vet is autopistol

so use that

[tall torrent]

Plasma with gloryhunter

[coral willow]

^better

[tall torrent]

Rashad / power sword

[terse idol]

Autopistol suuucs

[coral willow]

i used it

[snow cypress]

Which is Rashad?

[tall torrent]

If ur goal is to feed ur team toughness, plasma is basically the best option

[tall torrent]

Rashad mk2 combat axe

[terse idol]

I would not grab rashad as a newer player

[snow cypress]

OHHH

[terse idol]

[coral willow]

me grinding headtaker

[terse idol]

Ain't about grinding headtaker kinda

It issss

About that minimum damage stats requirement

AND unarmoured AND BM

[snow cypress]

Well I've been playing knife vet with stealth

For a while

[tall torrent]

Knife is not toughness generator

[last parcel]

just be lucky

[snow cypress]

Yeah ik,but it's an answer to the other person XD

[coral willow]

i guess vet doesnt have that much damage for use

[golden fox]

So...

It's been a long time since I've much played Vet (I started out with them, but I was building up levels together with a friend, and ended up swapping to psyker when they weren't available and ended up sticking with that). I briefly looked at them again after the class overhaul but didn't do more than a couple of missions.

And, for the most part, what I've used recently is psyker specific rather than all-class weapons, and I'm looking for advice on the Vet's melee options as they are now.

I'm planning a marksman build with something like a MG12 or Vraks 7 at its core, and likely Krak Grenades as a Blitz, so I need something that's decent at clearing up hordes (but ideally doesn't suck at dealing with elites if they get close).

I got the vet up to Lvl 26, so I think I've got everything unlocked, and I have quite a lot of high level all-class weapon Blessings unlocked by having my psyker buying stuff from Melk when I see it, although obviously I can't get max stat weapons just yet. But I'd like to know a general direction to take.

[tall torrent]

No, vet has a lot

[coral willow]

melee damage?

[tall torrent]

Vet also cares about consistent breakpoints a lot

[tall torrent]

Yea

[coral willow]

i never cared

[tall torrent]

Vet hits for like almost 2x the melee kill efficiency as non-martyr zealot

[coral willow]

thats a loss for me

vet has powersword

[tall torrent]

U don’t need a power sword to do it

[coral willow]

makes any vet physically better than a zealot

[tall torrent]

Rashad & knife both have almost 2x kill efficiency on veteran compared to non-martyr zealot

[tall torrent]

Not rly

Power sword has problems with mobility

[terse idol]

Well it's kinda just requirements for vet with rashad

[coral willow]

rashad gets picky

[terse idol]

Yeeess

[coral willow]

i use use martyr to fuck all that

[tall torrent]

Rashad is not particular best at 1 specific thing but it’s like top 2~3 in everything

[terse idol]

Taking actual damage for Martyr?
Crazy, I thought zealot could get away with building a strong rashad without purposefully taking damage

[tall torrent]

They can, it’s just that martyr hits higher breakpoints

Martyr gives u essentially veteran’s elite & ogryn Dmg nodes in one

Except it works all the time

[coral willow]

martyr gets funny cause you can 2shot ragers

[tall torrent]

The issue with martyr is that

[terse idol]

[coral willow]

marter also gets funnier cause you can get 2shot

[tall torrent]

U have severe point tax problems, you have to spec into wound curios so u won’t as much health or toughness, and you have basically no CDR

[coral willow]

god fragging dammit

[snow cypress]

LMAO GUYS

[sinful swallow]

Lmao

[snow cypress]

Bad blessings?

[snow cypress]

lmao

[tall torrent]

This is actual fine

Change both blessings

BM + headtaker

[coral willow]

perk golden so just change blessings

[tall torrent]

Welcome to Rashad club

[snow cypress]

[coral willow]

it can dodge

shit finesse... but it'll do

[tall torrent]

Shotguns have 5 base dodge for some reason

[terse idol]

No rampage?

Damn

[tall torrent]

Ur current one is better

Rampage + Skullcrusher on DC7 is peak

Change Crit chance to flak Dmg

[coral willow]

has shit cleave from what ive seen

[elder fiber]

the lower dmg def mitigated by higher finesse on the right one

[tall torrent]

It’s not that bad

[terse idol]

I usually ran uh, shred and savage sweeps

[elder fiber]

oh and cleave dmg doesn't affect much

[terse idol]

Or rampage

[coral willow]

current best

and original 550

[tall torrent]

Savage sweep is better than wrath imo

For DC

[coral willow]

devilclaw kinda has shit cleave so it kinda dies when theres only 3 bruisers

i have been using dc7 and it was more generous for me with the cleave but still

[tall torrent]

It’s better cleave than chainsword actually

The issue is cleave Dmg distribution

It loses a lot of Dmg on hitting flak enemies

[coral willow]

anyhoo

rampage seems fine but the build is get ult quick build for zealot so

[tall torrent]

Then yea get savage sweep

[coral willow]

usually sticking to wrath since its more consistant but either way good stuff

not sure if skullcrusher actually works on catachan though the enemy kinda never gets stunned

[tall torrent]

Wrath is somewhat less consistent

Takes more swings to get to the same 200% cleave and drops all stacks on miss

[coral willow]

its consistant on hit which is fine for me

sweep dies on mauler for example

i think its preference

but generally enjoy wrath more

[tall torrent]

Cleaving through mauler means very little when:
Cleaving through body - lose 70%+ Dmg because u hit flak
Cleaving through head - carapace blocks cleave in the first place

[coral willow]

it matters for when im doing riposites

not much else

[tall torrent]

Ye in which case u want to hit their head

Which blocks cleave because it’s carapace

[coral willow]

i dont go for the head, p sure the body still does more damage even with the finesse

[tall torrent]

Bodyhit is flak

So u lose ~70%+ Dmg towards latter targets

It’s such a tremendous Dmg loss it’s basically not worth it

[coral willow]

stagger is still there and have been able to kill accompanying idiots with it

its kinda specific yes

but stil useful more for me

[snow cypress]

I don't like plasma gun

I'm so unprotected at long distances

which is the stats priority for plasma gun?

[umbral scaffold]

can someone give a very basic description on the difference between infantry, headhunter and braced autoguns

[tall torrent]

Dmg & stopping power, both 78% or higher

[elder fiber]

infantry are automatic fire with ads, hh are single or burst fire with ads, braced are automatic and holding rmb braces them, which changes their recoil but isn't really ads (they're basically rambo guns)

[umbral scaffold]

ty!

[tall torrent]

Infantry autoguns are ur generic video game assault rifles
Headhunter autoguns are burst/semi auto headshot focused DMRs
Braced autoguns are close-mid range high stagger bodyshot-focused assault rifles

[umbral scaffold]

im not high enough level to care yet but what are the important stats on these guns

[tall torrent]

Stopping power, Dmg
Stability, ammo
Mobility 51% or higher

[snow cypress]

oh and the blessing?I know Gloryhunter.And the second one?

[tall torrent]

Braced autoguns mobility may not matter as much

[fiery wave]

Headhunter needs a buff

[tall torrent]

Gets hot

[elder fiber]

hh agri is p shit and hasn't gotten qol touchups that vraks have

and vraks 3 nerf feels p bad after columnus has Gotten Away With It for so long now but its totally fine

[fiery wave]

Not glory hunter, get the power one

[elder fiber]

and idk vraks 7 still goofy good on vet imo

[odd sparrow]

stability also isn't very important on a bunch of guns. Particularly on pistols it doesnt seem to matter at alll

[tall torrent]

Gloryhunter is better than blaze away most of the time

[fiery wave]

it’s not

[tall torrent]

It is

Which breakpoints do u expect blaze away to hit

[fiery wave]

Anti boss

[elder fiber]

stability is all over the place on guns, like it can be rolled bad on ciag and affect initial recoil but it always normalizes after a point

[tall torrent]

ok

[fiery wave]

Sacrificing dps for toughness regen, not worthwhile unless you are getting hit enough to need it

[tall torrent]

Being able to regen half ur toughness in 1 hit is usually more useful than maybe noticeable dps increase vs beast of nurgle when u feel like magdumping it

[umbral scaffold]

just checking do i still get the benefit of my aura even if there are no teammates near me to benefit from it as well?

[elder fiber]

plasma 1shots most shit anyways so that dps is gonna be on like, crushers and bosses

[tall torrent]

It doesn’t even matter for crushers

[fiery wave]

Yeah, and 3vegs are so much easier with it than without it

[elder fiber]

yes

[tall torrent]

Blaze away at most makes mauler bodyshot 2 tap a little more consistent without crits but with gets hot u just won’t need it

[coral willow]

damage stopping power good, thermal resis needs to be over 68% to fire 8 volley before overheat, ammo always good cause plasma has shit ammo economy

blaze away is consistant and getshot is more luck based but crits good

[snow cypress]

oh,thanks

[coral willow]

iag- bog standard ads assault rifles
braced- think of counterstrike but it has a semi-aim
headhunter- burst/singlefire battle rifles

[snow cypress]

I think I'm using plasma gun wrong

It's toooo slow

and everytime I try to use it the enemies fuck me

[tall torrent]

Don’t use charged shots

[snow cypress]

OHHHHH

[tall torrent]

[umbral cloud]

Ever?

[tall torrent]

In the current state of the game, never

[umbral cloud]

And is that 78% Stopping Power needed? I have 75% 😭

[tall torrent]

If ur missing breakpoints you’re going to need both redirect fire + longshot

[umbral cloud]

Can you not post pictures in here?

[hollow ibex]

need the convicts role

[umbral cloud]

I was going to post the Plasma gun I’m using at the moment

[hollow ibex]

which should be automatically assigned

[junior needle]

It gets assigned in like a day or something

you can post an imgur link in the meantime

[umbral scaffold]

wow

whoever told me columnus is one of the gunniest guns was NOT capping

[umbral cloud]

https://imgur.com/a/RyZb1Ti

That’s the picture of the plasma gun I’m using ATM

I’ve only done one modification to it

[odd sparrow]

going brrrr is pretty funny

[umbral cloud]

Why is that breakpoint so important? What does it let you do?

[tall torrent]

Dreg Gunner 1 headshot

Both Flamer 1 headshot

[umbral cloud]

Without charging?

[tall torrent]

Yea

Non-Crit regular shot

U need +elite perk on plasma

[umbral cloud]

Drop flak for +elite?

[tall torrent]

u want both +elite and +flak

[umbral cloud]

Pain

[umbral cloud]

@tall torrent that’s what I’m using at the moment

Last modification was being saved to upgrade/replace blaze away

[dreamy spade]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9baff4d9-63ae-413e-bee8-1e815b95e048/plasma-vet-4?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

You can swap out for the emperor for focus target if u want

I don't use this build anymore cuz of the survivalist nerf

Primary weapon is plasma but the ammo efficency is trash

[frank basin]

No, graia is the gunniest guns I ever use. Braced overload!

[last parcel]

[last parcel]

im going to use this and swap confirmed kill for catch a breath

[chilly anvil]

Columnus is hilarious to play

Sorry heretics .....but Soap taught me how to handle this

[junior needle]

Doesn't compare to the ciag I'm afraid

Probably about half the potential dps

[frank basin]

The way i likely magdumpping on 72 round in a magazine

[dreamy spade]

Who had the focus target macro?

[lime gyro]

i dont use keystones

[chilly anvil]

🤷🏻‍♂️ there's DPS and then there's fun factor.

[lime gyro]

My next challenge will be no talents

I will become a master with it

Good bye

[frank basin]

With celerity stimm i toast

[chilly anvil]

I honestly don't use keystone either on vet.....there's so many good talents you can grab otherwise

[lime gyro]

Yeh

[frank basin]

Some keystone for me are meh for my fantasy

[chilly anvil]

I prefer just being able to run and gun rill fast

[frank basin]

Try pick specialist

[hollow ibex]

keystones can be very fun

[frank basin]

You would like switch melee run and gun

[hollow ibex]

weapon specialist

[chilly anvil]

Yeah I'm going to optimize the one I have for power sword and pistol and try it out

So far just primarily been going all in on crit chance

[frank basin]

Weapon specialist for you with sword and pistol

[chilly anvil]

Turns the Columnus into a barn burner

[umbral scaffold]

will columnus recoil be more manageable when i get higher level ones

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[frank basin]

Columnus replace auto pistol so sad

[chilly anvil]

Yeah, high stability one is like a laser pointer

And you can manually burst fire it easily

[umbral scaffold]

what constitutes a close range kill for some blessings

[frank basin]

Dumdum?

[dreamy spade]

but now i cant hold left click

i got it to sort of work

[snow cypress]

ok I like plasma gun XD

IT's kinda fun

[frank ether]

the first time you use it, its quite an experience

few games later it gets really boring

[frank basin]

I use graia never get bored

(I lied)

[somber axle]

Close Range Damage is calculated maximum benefit at up to 8 meters and continues to provide some benefit up to 30 meters but at a reduced rate for the further the target is. So the Dum Dum blessing and Close Quarters Kill Zone talent are both surprisingly strong for boosting damage

[snow cypress]

really?

well

[frank ether]

Its just uncharged spam to kill literally everything in the game, I'll gladly pick up and use a plasma again when they make it an interesting gun

[umbral scaffold]

huh alright then ty

[midnight totem]

Tested a few games, and I think I like reciprocity over cqkz

Even with the close range damage

Maybe it's just because of my power sword

[somber axle]

Reciprocity is really, really good

funny crit dodge mini-game

I wish I could take Reciprocity, Duck and Dive and Close Quarters Kill Zone together tbh

but there are so many other things I want for Recon

[north pebble]

torn between choosing what to use for auric. thoughts?

[umbral scaffold]

is this 10% of mag or max ammo

[north pebble]

just the mag

[umbral scaffold]

sadge

[agile forge]

Does it work with WS reloads?

[frank basin]

10% of your magazine

[umbral scaffold]

whats the best keystone btw

[north pebble]

focus target imo

[frank basin]

I’m people assume it’s spotter

FT overused but it’s simple

[umbral scaffold]

If you have L4 Maniac Perk on a chainsword, what would be the better perk to replace the other L3 Block Efficiency?

[frank basin]

Flaky

[umbral scaffold]

And there it is. It's not great, but its okay

[north pebble]

t4 bloodletter would be great for the blessing

[junior needle]

1a is technically considered better but the 4 is fine too, it has better ammo efficiency than 1a at the cost of dps and breakpoints. Efficiency is a dead blessing though, does very little.

[junior needle]

You're gonna want wrath on that chainsword

[north pebble]

yeah i noticed that when using that certain 1a in t5 runs, mgIV feels meh when i'm used to 1a but It almost has perfect perks and blessings

[umbral scaffold]

oops i got a little bit too silly

[junior needle]

The 4 also has wonkier recoil for some reason

1a has the best recoil of the ilas line last I checked

[tall torrent]

In your case, the MG4 has better rolls so I’d go with that
However I think infantry lasguns benefit from Ghost tremendously, much more than Deadly Accurate most of the time

[junior needle]

Ghost is real nice with dnd/deadshot

[north pebble]

i have ghost but never tried it

will have to replace headhunter as its the edited slot though

[tall torrent]

Would have to roll a new one

I think HH + Ghost is the way to go for MG1a and MG4

[north pebble]

thanks

i'll roll one now

[coral willow]

you do?

huh

[umbral scaffold]

what this mean

[odd sparrow]

enemies much less likely to attac you

more likely to attack your teammates instead

[umbral scaffold]

i suspected so

[tall torrent]

For dreg gunner 1HS

[coral willow]

...ah

i think i just took wp damage

and elite

and never looked back

huh

[tall torrent]

U need +elite perk and superiority complex

[coral willow]

wait how did i oneshot?

[tall torrent]

Then either redirect fire or longshot

If u don’t go this route u need unarmored perk

[coral willow]

i dont have longshot

[tall torrent]

Which is way more limiting in application

[last parcel]

rate my plasma

[umbral scaffold]

0/10 cos its plasma

[coral willow]

shattering impact and volatile both kinda not being used so

[last parcel]

10/10 because i can kill myself

[coral willow]

apprantly groaner/poxwalker just gives straight +10% unarmored/infested

[young salmon]

arent both the perks kinda useless?

[coral willow]

which is funny

i think he's intentionally made it for funny

[young salmon]

ah

[coral willow]

must've been shooting twice all this time

oh yeah i know what happened i usually just powersword them

makes sense

anyway today i learned that groaner/poxwalker actually gives you +10% unarmored/ +10% infested

seems useful

so like it works on dreg gunner heads n shit

apprantly

idk if its true

[umbral scaffold]

I went with the movement speed as I use it for a psyker who benefits from more speed increase during scriers gaze. So the idea is, do weakspot kills and rev, giving me more speed. Fast Psyker is fast.

[coral willow]

running in the 90s

also scriar gaze with disrupt destiny boost is extremely fast already

cant imagine with a rev

[umbral scaffold]

MOAR SPEED

[junior needle]

just keep in mind that you're gonna lose a lot of potential clear speed because of it

The 13g is a pure light spammer for clear and the cleave values are not terribly high baseline on lights

[umbral scaffold]

Fair enough

You're right, i didn't notice that much of a difference in speed increase. It would seem I'm either hitting diminishing returns or a cap.

[coral willow]

sad

i feel like 13g is kinds wierd cause 4 still has decent hordeclear on lights

[umbral scaffold]

does this mean if i have 10 stacks the next 10 bullets have the 33% crit chance

[tall torrent]

The next bullet has 100% crit chance

It’s “on your next shot”

[umbral scaffold]

mmm ok, but that also means having alot of stacks wastes the bonus

[tall torrent]

Having a lot of stacks boosts ur firerate

[umbral scaffold]

yes

[faint beacon]

I mean you only really need 3

Iirc

[umbral scaffold]

i meant the bonus to crit

[odd sparrow]

infested however is the absolute worst damage type to increase as its only poxwalkers and dogs basically

[faint beacon]

WS highly encourages a hybrid playstyle

[umbral scaffold]

idk what im going with yet just trying to understand everything cos theres alot to take in

[tall torrent]

I can send u my WIP veteran guide

[umbral scaffold]

that would be appreciated

[last parcel]

read the whole thing in one sitting

[umbral scaffold]

i have time to spare

[tall torrent]

How ready are u for 70+ pages of details

[umbral scaffold]

💀

probably not very ready

adhd attention span

[last parcel]

time to read guide
damn, hammer of the emperor got hands

[dreamy spade]

i kinda got the macro working

holding click doesnt keep applying focus so you remain at max stacks on the target

just clicking applies to focus

[junior needle]

You can get some pretty nasty clear times with wrath + rampage/shred

Near the fastest in the game

[umbral scaffold]

does movement instantly wipe all marksmans focus stacks or does it happen over time as u move

[tall torrent]

Over time

[umbral scaffold]

ooo i might use that then

[tall torrent]

It’s in the guide I sent u

[umbral scaffold]

there is alot to read

and i probably wont get through it all

[tall torrent]

U can use hyperlinks to fast travel

[last parcel]

or plain ole search text

[tall torrent]

Navigation header is also there

[faint beacon]

3 seconds per stack iirc

its rather generous

used to be fucking terrible

[umbral scaffold]

that is incredibly generous lol

what did it used to be?

[faint beacon]

.5

I think

[umbral scaffold]

damn

[faint beacon]

so you had to basically play like a crab

and in a game where you need to constantly be moving cause of melee combat

yeah you see the issue

[dreamy spade]

Hold up I just realised how op redirect fire is

If you have a tag macro

[tall torrent]

U don’t need a tag macro for it

Just tag most enemies u kill

[dreamy spade]

Its basically free damage to allies in coherency on elite and specialist kills

[last parcel]

never

[tall torrent]

U get that without having to use a macro

Literally just playing normally

[dreamy spade]

only on hold guns

well no

[tall torrent]

No u just have to tag enemies like a normal person

[dreamy spade]

nobody is gonna tag every enemy correctly

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[tall torrent]

It’s quite literally tag + kill, repeat

[dreamy spade]

like when shit hits the fan ur not middle clicking everything

[tall torrent]

Bind it to a different key then

[elder fiber]

yes I am I wanna know where shit is

[tall torrent]

Seeing enemy outline makes headshots easier

Not sure why you need to use a macro to use it

[dreamy spade]

its just easier

shoot at target = tagged

[tall torrent]

Seems more like a bad keybind being problematic

[wind grotto]

I find focus target to be better used tagging something else that i'm not about to kill myself since tagging things i'm about to one hit usually leads to too many people wasting bullets

very good talent choice with all the sub talents though

[dreamy spade]

bruh

the damage you can get on vet is broken

[somber axle]

My ping is set to "C" on my keyboard! Since my hand is already on WASD for movement it's pretty easy to tap C while fighting target to target or spam C when looking through a pox cloud to try to find the specials/elites behind it

[last parcel]

are you hitting it with your thumb? i don't think i've ever tried that

[somber axle]

Nah I shift my finger down from D to hit C

just a quick movement and tap

briefly unable to move right but the split second hasn't really gotten me in trouble afaik

I'm used to using C, V, X, R, F as keybinds for MMORPGs

as well as doing ctrl+ all of those and alt+ all of those

quickly shifting to hit C during fights is easier for me than doing alt+V to activate a defensive in WoW PvP (I don't play WoW anymore tbh)

I ended up shifting my weapon special action to one of my extra mouse buttons though

It makes Bayonet charges with the Helbore feel better

quick and easy stabs just tapping it with my thumb

I have another mouse button on the side I could use for ping but left clicking and tapping that with my thumb feels weird

[last parcel]

i'm the opposite of you

wait no that'd mean i'd have to start using normal builds

nvm i don't like this

[somber axle]

we're weird in different directions

[gilded rock]

My build gives me exactly 194 toughness and 195 hp

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-movie-avengers-infinity-war-gif-18122928

[odd sparrow]

idk hp feels pretty pointless to me on vet

[last parcel]

i think 200 hp lets you survive a second poxburster or something

summon the nerds

[odd sparrow]

much prefer having my toughness so high several hits are required to go below iron will limit

[tiny summit]

C Tag enjoyer 🤝

[steep harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177027897588985926/1249831216371466240/Cpt_Van_Saar.jpg?ex=6668bb86&is=66676a06&hm=426a646bd61b9751a85c0ecdd96eae5e8a648036f4ac3f662f59652d676eaf80&

im now a kasrkin...at home

[somber axle]

I C the target so the team can see the target

[last parcel]

comrades, rate my build
auric approved
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c4169cb-12f2-44c5-af41-0f4371536164/god-tier-vet

[umbral scaffold]

the FUCK is that thumbnail

[somber axle]

Oh that's from Fallout!

That's a lot of bleed in the build too

Need for Bleed

[umbral scaffold]

meow :3

[somber axle]

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22727788

[sterile mesa]

1 or 2 chat?

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-bite-gif-11011120

[agile forge]

2 for a bunch of reasons but idk if it's the one I'd wanna keep long term. Keep both anyway but use the CIAG

[umbral scaffold]

me when i fucking get you

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-surprise-funny-what-shocked-gif-7948555

low profile

[clear lantern]

neither, obtain blessings and keep working

[trim steppe]

I'd use 2 until you roll a better CIAG. For now you can replace both blessings. I'd probably just cannibalize 1 for its T4 Stripped Down. the Argi IAG is ass compared to the Columnus

[umbral scaffold]

whats the chance that columnus gets gutted next balance update

[trim steppe]

🤷‍♂️ who's to say

[hollow ibex]

i'd say it's a prime target, but columnus has been broken for some time

and fatshart takes forever to do anything

[trim steppe]

The plasma and revolver have both been really strong for a while without a nerf

Meanwhile the recon was decent for 2 weeks and they nerfed it into the dirt

[sterile mesa]

And what does Ciag stand for again?

[trim steppe]

so who knows

[trim steppe]

columnus infantry autogun

Just in case you didnt notice, in your picture, 1 and 2 are different guns.

When I started the game I didn't notice the difference between MKs sometimes for a while lol

[sterile mesa]

Interesting, I've been using the IAG as my primary. Thanks for the input

[trim steppe]

You're ready for the crafting overhaul

[ancient raptor]

exactly

im waiting for that

[trim steppe]

Im stuck around 2.5mil ordos because I keep buying every good base I see in the shop

Anything over 370 with good distribution I pick up

[somber axle]

Probably slim. They did Path of Redemption and only seemed to do a pass at talents. Secrets of the Machine God could be more than new level/new weapons/new story though. But personally I don't think they're going to take a swing at the CIAG/Plasma/Revolver until the crafting update

[junior needle]

Columnuts is the best automatic weapon in the game currently. Replace terrifying for dumdum and elites for flak for the highest general damage value.

Here's an example of their dps differences

[somber axle]

Tbh as weird as it sounds I think Zarona Revolver is fine. I think Plasma needs more time for the dust to settle post-Surv Aura nerf before they tackle it. But CIAG is definitely ripe for getting grabbed by the throat in a future more recent update

I think Plasma getting nerfs is important but I'm trying to think like Fatshark here and the Surv Aura changes shook up the Vet meta a bunch

They're probably going to wait more before touching it just to collect more data and do more testing

[junior needle]

Fatshark doesn't do a lot of rational thinking

You need to be more arbitrary and rationalize keeping your favorite weapons strong

[somber axle]

My fav weapons are weak so I'm already irrational

Ok maybe not ALL of my fav weapons

Mk II Helbore is very strong

[trim steppe]

My opinion is that the zarona revolver would be fine if they reduced the diameter of the projectile by about 40%. Right now it's just SO HUGE that it hits anything within like half a meter of the center projectile path. It makes aiming a joke. If you actually needed to aim it a bit more, it's damage and everything would feel more reasonable

[agile forge]

Throwing knives are great

And they need precision

[somber axle]

TF2 Huntsman aiming

Fire vaguely in the direction of the target and get headshots

[agile forge]

Seemple geometry

[junior needle]

Given how bullshit the hitreg is and how the actual shot doesn't line up with the crosshair/sights, I'm fine with beefier projectiles

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/soundsmith-tf2-team-fortress-2-scout-huntsman-gif-9602995477684078165

[junior needle]

Gunplay in this game needs a tune up

[trim steppe]

I think the revolver's projectile is larger than the plasma gun's lol

[somber axle]

I remember testing Plasma against Maulers and legitimately couldn't headshot them ever

It would always do damage to Flak instead of Carapace in the Psykanium

I have no idea why

[trim steppe]

Yeah plasma doesn't HS maulers, there's something funky going on. It always hits body for flak damage

[last parcel]

i tried giving them a plasma haircut and kept hitting the dick

[tall torrent]

It’s display bug

Still uses carapace Dmg

[trim steppe]

Oh. So then just typical FS misinformation

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[umbral garnet]

Been using the yeehaw pistol for a bit

I love it.

[junior needle]

I absolutely hated it on my zealot

Was a bad time

[clear lantern]

have you purchased every weapon/armor customization on the commissary yet? I only have the 1.5M Psyker set left and I'm free from money.

[umbral garnet]

Sure, it's not nearly as capable as the Zarona, but MAN it is fun.

[junior needle]

It uh

Felt worse than taking an autopistol for me

[umbral garnet]

Well, I am sorry to hear.

[junior needle]

But then again I need my sidearm for distance targets

And it's clearly not built for that

[agile forge]

I heard the Agripinaa revolver can do silly things with veteran on bosses

[junior needle]

You'd be correct

It's singular strength is party tricking bosses with a particular setup

I'm guessing that each of the on ult damage activations is a separate modifier

Resulting in beeg damage if you stack them

[umbral scaffold]

does speccing fully into ranged with your talents work in in like histg or harder

[junior needle]

It's important to note that works =/= is recommended. You can get by without any melee boosts but you aren't doing yourself any favors by doing it, especially if you're going exe.

[umbral scaffold]

exe?

[junior needle]

Executioner stance

[umbral scaffold]

ty

im so used to exe meaning executioner sword from verm 2

[junior needle]

Some weapons like the rashad are best used with the asp boost from the right side

It's a bit slow without it

Chainswords can do fine regardless of if you take anything, and power swords actually really like weapon spec for the added mobility

[umbral scaffold]

what would be the best ability and keystone for self reliance

[junior needle]

Also attack speed affects how fast you charge

Overshout if you want to be useful to the team, infiltrate if you want pure selfishness.

[umbral scaffold]

xd

i mainly ask cos i eventually wanna do true solos

[languid spade]

Okay, but I think you're wrong

[junior needle]

Stealth is always insane for soloing

But playing solo is a very different game

[umbral scaffold]

always is

i've done a bunch of drg 6x2 and gtfo true solos cos fun and having to rely entirely on yourself makes you improve at the game rapidly

[somber axle]

That's fine. I am a clown and my opinions are pretty goofy LOL

[midnight totem]

evenin' all

[frank ether]

solo gtfo is... an experience.

[somber axle]

What do you think of the weapon balance for those three outliers then?

[umbral scaffold]

yeah, ive only done the easy levels in gtfo

[somber axle]

They're very clearly outperforming the rest of the Veteran ranged arsenal

[umbral scaffold]

cos the hard ones require mega kiting

[somber axle]

And by a significant margin too

[frank ether]

honestly its not really a very solo friendly game anyway by its nature

[umbral scaffold]

its not at all, very much designed to be play with 4 people

[frank ether]

both stealth and alarm checks are designed in a by the numbers way

more turrets, more stun goo, more utility, more hammers to bonk the big guy with etc

[umbral scaffold]

going from 4>1 tools is by far the most crippling aspect

the hardest level i did was r8b1

[frank ether]

here is a take too spicy for this channel

ciag is fine

its the crit string that outperforms

[umbral scaffold]

ciag is fine buff everything else to match it

[frank ether]

eh I wouldn't want every autogun to sit at ciag power

[umbral scaffold]

are smoke grenades as bad as my friends are telling me

[frank ether]

its a meme

but also like, doesn't matter

you can toss it and make gunners braindead, which is cool and all

when I think about it all vet nades except shredder are mediocre (unsuprising on a class that regens grenades)

I have reconsidered smokes after its last buff and the krak nerfs and kinda decided krak and smoke are in a similar boat

[agile forge]

Tbf ex stance is fun as fuck

But veteran without the other abilities feels very vulnerable

[umbral scaffold]

my gripe with executioners stance is that swapping kills the buff

[agile forge]

Yeah

But you get a new one quite quickly

[hearty panther]

i mean swapping i can kinda get

[agile forge]

I use it with guns which are OK shooting at close range too

[hearty panther]

but you lose it for shit like unnetting a teammate

and that really blows

[agile forge]

Ie just CIAG for me really

[frank ether]

exe is literally looking for an excuse to end

its already on a very, very short timer to begin with

[agile forge]

It's very much a win-more ability

VoC is pretty much outright better

[frank ether]

thats about the most perfect sentence to describe exe stance

its a win more ultimate

[agile forge]

But the power is fun

You just gotta know that you're playing the game on hard mode a little

[frank ether]

I can not think of a single exe stance game where I thought to myself ''damn this ult saved the run''

[umbral scaffold]

i just get dopamine for killing ranged units

[frank ether]

yet I did say this for the other two ults

plenty times

[umbral scaffold]

that are highlighted

can't trust pubs to kill specials

someone gotta be on top of it

[orchid hemlock]

Sometimes I just sit there, and wait to see if any of my teammates will kill the gunner sitting right in front of them,

[hollow turtle]

Lol relatable. Specials is my specialty and my priority. A horde is not.

[orchid hemlock]

And I see that gunner literally kill them all 🗿

[frank ether]

if it was up to me I would make the breakpoints of exe passive and make the highlight + recoil reduction + stun/suppress immunity the active effect and then call it job done.

Maybe thats broken? Idk

I can't really think of many ways of buffing exe

[umbral scaffold]

uh

[frank ether]

I'd rather just.. delete it

[umbral scaffold]

i think just making the 2 point invest built in

like the reset should be built in

[frank ether]

doesn't fix it

[umbral scaffold]

waste of 1 point

[frank ether]

doesn't fix any of the issues with the ultimate, you just save points now

[umbral scaffold]

what's weak about it?

[hollow turtle]

Hey, so long as my scoreboard says I killed the most ranged (and maybe melee) specials, then I know I did my job.
No, I do not use that mod to check the performance of the other players. If there was a way I could make it to just show my column and hide everyone else's, I would.

[agile forge]

True, but on the other hand I have had plenty of runs where it's been like "that e stance just then was fucking sick"

[frank ether]

pretty self explanatory I think

[junior needle]

-Buff doesn't end when you switch to melee
-Any hit on a target counts as a weakspot hit while active

[agile forge]

It's a strong ability

[orchid hemlock]

Who will win?

4 of the Emporer's finest

Or

1 mutie boi

[agile forge]

But it means you don't get the other abilities

[umbral scaffold]

VoC just does everything?

[frank ether]

the second one sounds like giga wheelchair mode

[agile forge]

Which are both much stronger

[frank ether]

first one I'd be game with

[agile forge]

VoC is busted and tbh infiltrate is great too

[orchid hemlock]

One thing I noticed is that the momment a mutant spawns, the entire team just straight up panics

[junior needle]

Perfect for the call of duty man class

[frank ether]

The only busted thing about VoC is the yellow toughness, which you can also have as zealot, its just boring on zealot.

[junior needle]

and console players

[agile forge]

How about, kill shots with E stance up have ammo refunded too

[last parcel]

body expertise aced

[junior needle]

That's an interesting one

[agile forge]

Maybe kill shots on yellow bois only

[frank ether]

no, thats bad

[umbral scaffold]

i want headshots to be rewarded on executioners stance

[frank ether]

problem with exe stance is it promotes tunnel vision guardsman larping in a game thats melee centric

[agile forge]

Not just refunded into your ammo pool though, but actually into your gun

[umbral scaffold]

love fps aspect of darktide

[frank ether]

you shouldn't encourage brainless shooting more you should make things interesting

[agile forge]

Fine by me. It's one spec out of many.

[umbral scaffold]

melee is just the middle part of the game i get through just to shoot again

[agile forge]

PBB encourages shooting, scrier's Gaze encourages not being a proper psyker

And those are some of the most fun specs in the game for me

[frank ether]

yeah because infinite ammo plasma vet that shoots enemies through a wall before you even see them sounds very fun gameplay for the rest of people involved

[agile forge]

Veteran gets 2 trees to be the hybrid you want them to be

[frank ether]

I swear yall sometimes

[agile forge]

Plasma needs nerfing

[frank ether]

talk without thinking

[agile forge]

That is a separate issue man

[umbral scaffold]

shrug

[frank ether]

you can't refund ammo

best you could do is rip off survivalist and put it in exe

[agile forge]

Plasma is bullshit as it is

[frank ether]

everyone wants it gone anyway

[agile forge]

Yeah maybe do that tbh

But like, I realised I like BLO

[umbral scaffold]

man

[frank ether]

and even that completely evades the problem of ''exe feels garbage to use''

[agile forge]

For reducing the burden a lugger places on the team's ammo economy

[junior needle]

True true

[agile forge]

I want e stance to do the same for a vet

[umbral scaffold]

i kinda just want wider array of builds instead of the 1 build that does it all

gets boring fast

[agile forge]

You already can tbh

[frank ether]

like this chat asks the question what do we do about exe and we get random buff ideas that don't adress the problem, we're getting nowhere

[junior needle]

That's why I suggested potato mode, you could even have a trade off of reducing weakspot damage a bit

[agile forge]

You just have to be prepared for some builds to be harder than others

Nah I want it to stay feeling skilly

[frank ether]

if you're taking the ranged playstyle you should be able to aim.

[agile forge]

Like ATM it makes headshots matter more

[umbral scaffold]

headshots go hard

[frank ether]

If you're potato aim ogryn club is like 3 rooms down

[agile forge]

And I like the synergy into MF with that

[frank ether]

exe vet already gets giga visibility buff and recoil reduction

and suppression immunity

stun immunity

Its very easy to make this busted with the wrong buffs

and then welcome to P12 vet

[agile forge]

Like 75% tdr

Forever

[vernal sundial]

ideal perks for plasma? can only take one perk unfortunately

[agile forge]

With crazy toughness regeneration on top

[agile forge]

Think elite Flak is popular

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/1337-pog-gif-21778973

[agile forge]

Or elite maniac

[tall torrent]

Elite is priority

[orchid hemlock]

Nah best is stamina 😎

[arctic rampart]

I like my plasma with some grey poupon and popcorn

[somber axle]

Ooo that is a spicy take. But it's probably the only one of the automatic weapons that can kill Crushers for little talent investment. Even if you nerf CIAG crit strings it still does substantial damage and overperforms beyond any other automatic weapon including others within its own class of Infantry Autogun. Like the Agripina Infantry Autogun niche is slower fire rate but bullet cleave. Graia Infantry Autogun is most stable recoil/accuracy over mid-long range. Columnus Infantry Autogun niche is being better than both of them at killing anything LOL

[frank ether]

It crits more often than not

take away the crit string and ciag is nothing burger

[somber axle]

As funny as that would be it would trivialize the game imo

[arctic rampart]

one things for sure, nerf recon lasguns into the ground some more

[umbral scaffold]

ik i was making a silly

[somber axle]

No smoke grenades are good but most people who look at smoke grenades are not very good at using them and think they're bad

[frank ether]

and if you're nailing every shot to the head with ciag then you deserve some busted dps in my eyes

game needs something to fill that close range dps hose role

[somber axle]

Nerf me harder I can take it

[arctic rampart]

25% current damage

10% if your name is Sneaky

50% more ammo use for that reduced damage

[somber axle]

Reduce my damage, ammo count and movement speed as much as you want if you give me a Clown Cosmetic viewable buy off the store for all to see

https://tenor.com/view/ponshu-clown-dance-tiny-clown-gif-26453364

[arctic rampart]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4czAPsL_ODK9SFa3ofljkFFtemCyVutoklg&s

No I fucking hate clowns though. No deal ever.

[somber axle]

It's honestly not hard because the recoil only kicks for the first second when firing and after that becomes easy to control. Anyone who uses it frequently can maintain crosshairs on heads just by nature of practice and feeling how the weapon moves

[arctic rampart]

Does console have aim assist?

[orchid hemlock]

"aim assist"

Oh so yall saying console players are bad? 🤔

[somber axle]

Tinfoil hat theory time: the toolip text for Executioner's Stance and all of the ability nodes under it broke with the Skulls event hinting that the weapon is slated for a rework down the road

[frank ether]

If they replaced it entirely it would be doing vet a service

the only interesting thing about exe is the highlighting of enemies

[vernal sundial]

are there any must have perks for the psword or will cycler & momentum do me just fine
(i dont have either im just coping trying to hope for a good roll)

[arctic rampart]

console players are challenged by their hardware. they can barely play the game right now. I was just thining they deserve help

[frank ether]

thats such a warped mentality

[somber axle]

Ok but highlighting enemies through Executioner's Stance with the talent node to give squad-wide vision of all incoming elites/specials in Vent Purge Sniper Gauntlet or Lights Out Sniper Gauntlet is very useful for the team

[frank ether]

here is a take

vent purge isnt difficult

[vernal sundial]

my friend on the best xbox available rn gets mega frame drops on anything higher than like malice
game is rough on console

[frank ether]

you can see the map wide lasers

[somber axle]

Sure you can follow the Sniper lasers but the highlight shows snipers who are not yet aiming too and warns you of Crusher/Mauler patrols that may be around a corner

[frank ether]

you can Q spam towards the laserr to instantly spot the sniper

[orchid hemlock]

Helping my team?

In DARKTIDE?

🗿

[somber axle]

Plus shows people the incoming hounds and trappers so maybe they don't get pounced or netted

[frank ether]

yes

you help them end your ultimate faster

I have this chat with every single clown in town

and in game

their highlight lasts

like 10 seconds

because I killed their fuel.

[orchid hemlock]

I was in a game earlier today, I blocked 235 attacks as Ogryn

Do you know what the combined amount of attacks my teammates blocked?

[somber axle]

To spot one Sniper yes. But what about second Sniper? Elevenses Sniper? Brunch Sniper? Tea time Sniper?

[orchid hemlock]

5

[frank ether]

spot again

it doesnt have a cooldown

[somber axle]

Now the first isn't pinged

[last parcel]

what if you killed it

[somber axle]

In the time it takes you to ping each individual sniper and kill them I have highlighted them all and my team wiped them out

[frank ether]

oh no this enemy with a giant laser and massive audio que that also happens to be made of paper

whatever will I do man

[somber axle]

Teamwork makes the dreamwork

It's about speed

[frank ether]

oh I forgot the best part

cover

[somber axle]

Because it is never JUST snipers

[frank ether]

the thing that darktide community doesnt think exists

you can like, put a wall in between

[somber axle]

The faster you can locate and kill, the faster you can deal with other threats

[frank ether]

it blocks all ranged enemies

[arctic rampart]

no. I've gotte trapped through walls so many times.

[frank ether]

like who unironically looks at vent purge and goes ''oh man I need a team comp to deal with this''

[somber axle]

I can duct tape wheels to my hands and feet to call myself a bike too. What's your point?

[last parcel]

give enemy snipers plasma guns

[frank ether]

bring back scab captain

give him VoC and a plasma gun

make him buff nearby scabs with better IQ

darktide saved 👏

[somber axle]

Wdym team comp I just shift like one talent point over

Ezpz

[arctic rampart]

You guys complaining about VOC & Plasma.. like who cares. 3/4 of veteran don't even use either

[last parcel]

praise be, we're saved from the imperium

[somber axle]

Team highlight is unnecessary imo outside of vent/lights out but it very valuable squad info there

[orchid hemlock]

Yall complaininf about teamwork when the average player doesn't even press the right mouse button 😔

[frank ether]

3/4 of veterans couldn't unshit their pants with if they could dual wield plasma guns with unnerfed voc

there was a time where voc made you IMMUNE to fire

and I saw voc plasma vets still eating shit

[arctic rampart]

Ima stop you there. OMG dual wielding plasmas.. How can I learn this power?

[somber axle]

My most heartbreaking moment was downloading Scoreboard and seeing that the average player pings 0 times throughout a whole match. The few that do have it in single digits. It is very rare for someone to actually use ping frequently to mark threats

[orchid hemlock]

Just be a space marine

[arctic rampart]

I put ping on mouse down.. I use it all the time to help me find prio targets to hit

put your mouse on the horizon, spam mouse down, find the sniper

[orchid hemlock]

Behold the state of darktide:

[frank ether]

Average player on my game has like under %20 general accuracy let alone headshot ratio. I don't know how accurate the board is but feels true.

[orchid hemlock]

I was playing shieldgryn

[somber axle]

Even when not using Focus Target I ping targets to help me see their outlines and track them if they escape behind cover or around a wall

[somber axle]

I wish Scoreboard tracked bots because I'm curious if people play worse than the bots Fatshark put into the game LOL

[arctic rampart]

damage taken 236 what a noob

[last parcel]

it's funny boarding the valkyrie and turning around to see the first focus target ping of the match

[orchid hemlock]

True I need to remove shield stacks 😔

A true Zealot player in the flesh 🫡 :

[last parcel]

john wick payday 2

[orchid hemlock]

I have to believe that Zealot players just have a macro for left click all the time

[somber axle]

As much as I love the Path of Redemption update for breathing more life into the game, the average player is now way less competent for it too LOL

Lots of returning/new players who are learning/adjusting

[orchid hemlock]

But like why would you start off on auric damnation? 💀

I understand the new players coming back

[frank ether]

they aren't ''worse'', they just have to play stuff other than their single copypasta gameslantern build

[faint beacon]

You do that if you hate yourself

[arctic rampart]

aeric isnt even the hardest. playing regular damnation with morons is

[somber axle]

I saw a level 26 Vet in no ammo Maelstrom who just died over and over despite my best attempts to protect them and all I could think was "you're not ready for this just yet but come back later and we'll demolish these scabs"

[tall torrent]

It can be worse

[orchid hemlock]

I saw a purge psyker with this build the other day ☠️

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af3c2f1-4c33-40d1-bda8-2257b7ddbbe8/endgame-psyker-scriers-purgatus-build-auric-ready-guide-by-yobi

[austere mica]

What

[orchid hemlock]

I literally saw this psyker, on auric damnation, trying to spam left click fire on a mutant 2 inches away for them

With a purge staff

A purge staff

On a

Mutant

[astral blade]

This is a vet channel not a psyker channel

[somber axle]

Purge staff Smite Psyker spamming flames at a Crusher in a panic

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-talk-gif-20081863

[austere mica]

Why would you take gaze on a purgatus build other than crit chance

[austere mica]

or does it affect fire or something

[tall torrent]

I just think it’s very funny that I can spend an entire game running around for plasteel and still have top or 2nd highest Dmg in my team basically all the time in QP

[astral blade]

1 I won’t stop talking and 2 respectfully go fuck yourself

[somber axle]

The other players are throwing themselves into the grinder just hoping for a carry to get penances/plasteel LOL

[tall torrent]

Well, they’re not getting penances done by dying

[astral blade]

😊

[frank ether]

thats.. ambitious for sure

[somber axle]

We must be strong for the new mission modifier: team is babies

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-tf2soldier-baby-salute-team-fortress2-gif-22428907

[tall torrent]

Patch 19 new mission modifier: Heretic within

[orchid hemlock]

Mutants really make them panic

I've seen people trying to "jump" away from a mutant grab

[astral blade]

Anyways I’ve said my piece 😊 now if you don’t mind

[last parcel]

haha who would ever try to do that

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/twenty-century-fox-meme-gfy-go-fuck-yourself-meme-get-lost-gif-26260205

[somber axle]

The clown protects all. No one left behind. We all go home, always

It's funnier to me to mess with natural selection that way

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-bye-bye-cat-bye-bye-gif-25847566

[frank ether]

no but fr people dont appreciate this update as much as they should. It literally enlightens the ignorant little shits that play this game into playing builds they normally don't so that they are less likely to come up with deranged takes.

[orchid hemlock]

What takes?

[somber axle]

I love the penances for forcing people to do more than Voice of Command, Plasma and Power Sword on repeat every match. Vets using smokes?? Vets using Infiltrate?? Vets using OTHER WEAPONS?? I love it

[somber axle]

Darktide reddit is more unhinged

[last parcel]

we don't go the ravenholm

[orchid hemlock]

Yeah but what do they say there?

[umbral scaffold]

have you guys tried darktide steam discussions

[last parcel]

steam discussions are not real

strike it from your mind

[orchid hemlock]

Steam is unmoderated, so take that what you will

[tall torrent]

I’m not putting my guide on steam lol

[umbral scaffold]

theres some pretty out there takes

this one guy was complaining about people not being level 30 before playing regular damnation

[orchid hemlock]

I've seen lvl 560+ look like they just started playing yesterday ☠️

[umbral scaffold]

level is never a good indicator of skill

i learnt this from playing drg

not like drg is good example of skill anyway tho

[somber axle]

I remember someone sharing that a reddit Darktide player was unironically arguing Recons are one of the best weapons in the game and he played Malice

[arctic rampart]

tell me you feel comforted by the level 15 zealot on your team though

[orchid hemlock]

God I wish this was true 😔

[umbral scaffold]

i dont care, if i want level 30 players i'll hop on auric, its so easy to solve this "problem"

[somber axle]

It is if you play Malice and below LMFAO

[tall torrent]

The only actually relevant indicator of skill in DT rn is prob orthus champion insignia

Everything else don’t matter that much

[wide pike]

Imagine playing darktide lmao

[umbral scaffold]

what is required for that one

[frank ether]

its just all around a cool update, got a horrible reception because game had gone too long without updates

[tall torrent]

Beat Karnak twins on damnation with secret hard mode

[umbral scaffold]

what is secret hadr mode

[last parcel]

that's why i use the orthus offensive trinket with the two little hanging nutsacks

i need everyone to know i beat it on uprising

[wide pike]

Playing one hand tied behind your back

[somber axle]

I'd say penance battlepass full cosmetic set but I've seen people with the full outfit eat shit lately so

[frank ether]

lmao

[somber axle]

Whoops replied to wrong comment LOL

The true indicator of skill is 2500 barrel kills penance

[tall torrent]

It’s a bell Easter egg u do which activates a secret hard mode, which has:

No rescue (killed allies are completely out)
Increased elite spawns (more scab ragers, crushers & maulers)
Increased boss resilience (they take more dmg to kill)

[tacit sonnet]

What do I do with this one?

https://i.imgur.com/y10oiFa.png

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-kirbo-terminal-montage-psalm-gif-19961242

[orchid hemlock]

I remembered once, someone on steam suggested to add "ranked based matchmaking"

[tall torrent]

Well, that one can’t be shown in profile

[umbral scaffold]

that sounds pretty fucked up I'd love to do that some day

[somber axle]

They should add a title for doing it

[tall torrent]

But yea I think rn the most “skill indicative” thing u can have is orthus champion insignia

[somber axle]

"Baron of Barrels"

[orchid hemlock]

You are ready

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c4013c8-2411-40b7-b11b-d7dca0c52b62/healing-vet?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[tall torrent]

haven't seen many with orthus champion recently

saw a few atoman elite guard

[frank ether]

I've been playing my alts, forgor to change insignia

[bitter turtle]

i have it but swpaped the insignia

other ones look better

[somber axle]

I don't have it tbh. My friends are not playing Darktide anymore and I don't want to pug it LOL

[bitter turtle]

tbh

like visually

[frank ether]

I kinda like the hard mode insignia

looks cool

[orchid hemlock]

Is there any titles that actually show you are decent at the game? 🤔

[last parcel]

golden skulls go hard

[somber axle]

The gold skulls do look very nice

[frank ether]

goes well with my pearl clutcher portrait

[somber axle]

Auric Exemplar I think

Auric Storm Survivor is a meme

[bitter turtle]

they're both memes

i still use them though

[orchid hemlock]

I think they are both equally memes

[somber axle]

Is Exemplar also a victim of cheese?

[umbral scaffold]

well i like the colours purple and orange so

[bitter turtle]

why wouldnt it be

[unique orchid]

i dont use a single title

[orchid hemlock]

Because maelstrom means you actually went out of your way to click the maelstrom mode

[bitter turtle]

its the exact same thing

[somber axle]

I want Ring Master for doing carnival

[bitter turtle]

except 5 more but you dont need to do mael

[somber axle]

Just 12 more Carnival games

[tall torrent]

yes

[orchid hemlock]

What about banners?

[somber axle]

We can't have anything nice in this buggy house LOL

[coral willow]

its almost garbage but if i want more infested damage for hordeclear i can probably take this and get unarmored damage

[bitter turtle]

🤔

https://i.gyazo.com/f0dcde2fbda47bab487c0685c7be4c05.png

https://i.gyazo.com/9f75a2b7438b65d1cd5eb8fa4e6a40de.png

i kinda like atoman elite guard insignia more

[frank ether]

man seeing the krieg helm

always reminds me

they did krieg cosmetics injustice

[unique orchid]

i have the regular damn banner because idc about doing the funny bell

[tall torrent]

orthus looks cooler imo

[unique orchid]

[insert lohner "not another bloody bell" meme here]

[tacit sonnet]

can I make it into exec stance?

[wide pike]

Well you win a pumpkin

[frank ether]

I'd keep this

[orchid hemlock]

Do whatever you want, I'm just saying

You are ready 👌

[frank ether]

more skulls betterer

[wide pike]

Skulls for hestias

Paper?

Or something idk

[last parcel]

sniiff her feeet

[abstract moth]

True

[bitter turtle]

i guess the orthus skulls fits the pile of skulls

portrait border

[unique orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-gif-22316782