veteran-class

[thin stone]

😂

[tall torrent]

Try to get them then

[thin stone]

Ok

@tall torrent what about Rashad axe

[tall torrent]

If you don’t happen to have piles of resources available, don’t bother

Rashad is extremely difficult to roll

[thin stone]

I have a decent roll

I think

• 74 DMG
• 79 finesse
• 78 penetration
• 80 first target
• 62 mobility

On my rashad

[tall torrent]

Decent roll is high first target, penetration, finesse & dmg
Mobility 51% or higher
Unarmored perk
Brutal momentum
Headtaker

And then second perk can be Flak/elite/carapace

[thin stone]

Ok I got 25 unarmored

[tall torrent]

Ok it’s not bricked

It’s gonna be usable at the very least

U need BM & headtaker on it tho

[thin stone]

Fkk

I got shred and decimator lmao

And 15% sprint 😂

[tall torrent]

That’s fine change both blessings

[thin stone]

Ok

[tall torrent]

It’s still usable

[faint beacon]

Joins a match, immediately already dead and panning to the "You have failed the emperor screen"

checks the time

2AM

yeah its time I think I shouldnt do QP lmao

[wanton dawn]

Its always 2am somewhere

[thin stone]

What is the ideal blessings for Columbus MK5?

And Agripinaa Brauto

[odd sparrow]

perks flak, maniac
DumDum

[thin stone]

What about dumdum and fire frenzy

[odd sparrow]

deahtspitter isnt as mandatory in my opinion

[thin stone]

I have 25 flak and maniac, fire frenzy and dumdum

What about Brauto Agripinaa?

[odd sparrow]

same i believe

[thin stone]

I got 25 unyielding and 25 flak on my Brauto + Deathspitter and fire frenzy

Yeh it doesn't have dumdum

Hmm strange I can't upload images

Lol

[radiant chasm]

Name will turn red after combination time spent in server+ interacting

Aka typing text

[thin stone]

I left the server twice, I guess that reset it

Otherwise I was red with rage

The rage to murder genetics

Heretics*

Fuckin' autocorrect

[astral blade]

Heh smoke nades are actually awesome

If used properly

By a vet who knows what the fuck they are doing

[umbral parrot]

^

Messes with enemy pathfinding too. Trappers and Doggos get closer than normal. useful for revives, and I THINK, makes Beast of Nurgle get closer too.

They're my main grenades.... mainly because i get +5% melee damage lol

[elder fiber]

yeah it affects slugs too

[astral blade]

Hot take but forgive me for saying this but the vets keystones are

https://tenor.com/view/its-just-crap-stan-marsh-south-park-s15e7-you-are-getting-old-gif-23108435

[elder fiber]

tag keystone is really strong + really boring, weapon specialist is borderline broken with specific weapons b/c of the free reload node, and marksman isn't amazing but idk some people like the minigame

[astral blade]

Ehhh idk I feel like the vet keystones are not what they were hyped up to be

I mean the other classes keystones affect their abilities right?

[agile forge]

Some do

Psyker mostly

Zealot is just conditional stat buffs on all of them

[elder fiber]

zealot keystones are more crits, dmg tdr and attack speed for missing wounds, and dmg, attack speed and dodge buffs for running around or dodging attacks

[agile forge]

Arguably the best zealot one is basically just 25% passive crit

Invocation of Death feels more like a keystone tbh

[astral blade]

Just wish that fatshark would change the vet tree layout

Skill point efficiency for vet is kinda well lacking

[elder fiber]

idk vet has a bunch of free unconditional dmg nodes that are p easy to grab before keystones and unlike psyker and ogryn doesn't get fully locked out of anything b/c they picked side blitzes/ults

[trim hemlock]

What do you mean by “their abilities”?

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/did-you-read-it-calvin-jordan-kingdom-business-s1e4-have-you-tried-reading-it-gif-27463266

Kinda a dumb question

[gritty mural]

veteran has some absolutely useless skills like ones that require you to not be near any enemies

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-meme-unsc-halo-real-patriot-gif-16275685552391887287

[trim hemlock]

There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers to questions

[gritty mural]

vet also probably has the second best toughness dmg reduction and replenishment of all classes next to ogryn so idk how people keep on going down as vet

[trim hemlock]

I’m asking because no keystones interact super directly with any classes’ abilities, besides Warp Siphon for Psyker

Also some folks use the terms “abilities” and “skills” interchangeably, which may be confusing for the context, so I asked

[terse idol]

there was a reshuffle

😌

to be fair like

VOC is yeah OP

[sturdy zephyr]

Getting cocky. And got surrounded all the time. Bad

[dreamy spade]

Zealot has better damage reduction

[agile forge]

I go down by not taking VoC most of the time lmao

Clown stance

[dreamy spade]

The thing i think makes voc great is all downed teammates get yellow too

[frank ether]

Its just iron will and VoC

right path has fuck all TDR

[coral willow]

tbh probably his best after feel no pain got hit hard

excluding voc infiltrate also has unconditional 50% toughness damage resistance attached to it

[frank ether]

yeah you want TDR on your invisibility ult

great thinking

that will help a lot while doing gameboy event or dumping aggro to the rest of your team

[coral willow]

if you just melee a lot it's useful in general

[frank ether]

which is literally all the use cases for infiltrate

[coral willow]

also if you do think infiltrate is just for pingpong aggro yeah sure but i use it for the toughness resistance and damage

[frank ether]

thats a clown move

but I won't judge

[coral willow]

clown in what lmao

[frank ether]

kinda self explanatory

don't feel like explainingg myself

[coral willow]

well then circus

[somber axle]

DID SOMEONE SAY CLOWN??

DID SOMEONE SAY CIRCUS???

is it digital

Hello clown here awake and here to share

I go Low Profile because I like being a coward but the 50% TDR starts on stealth break so it's ok

[frank ether]

''I use smite for the %10 damage buff'' and ''I use infil for the toughness resistance'' has the same 1 brain cell energy

[coral willow]

former doesnt even work since the right click smite doesnt get that debuff btw

[somber axle]

I just already get a lot of TDR from Iron Will/Close Order Drill so I don't view it as necessary but you can stack them all together for the funny

[coral willow]

i use it with iron will to get stacks to tank a lot, regen with plasma gloryhunter and/or special kills
gets you quite tanky during the duration

voc exists blah blah sure

[somber axle]

Yeah Vet can get funny levels of tanky

[agile forge]

VoC Iron Will is a silly interaction

[somber axle]

I go full tank on my Cadian build because Cadia stands

It's the easiest for solo clutch because you just never die

[frank ether]

wow you can use a plasmagun

very good king

[coral willow]

the 30% damage from infiltrate is also like the only thing you can get with melee vet's damage output
excluding spamming VoC and abusing the lower half activation talents

even then the same thing can be done with infiltrate

[somber axle]

Infiltrate damage with my Tac Axe for clearing hordes of bruisers is a funny thought

[coral willow]

i use ps3

[somber axle]

It swings so FAST

Anyway I've revoked what I said about Tac Axes being bad

[coral willow]

it makes your hand sweat if anything

[somber axle]

They're actually fine and not as hard to build as a Rashad Combat Axe

[coral willow]

i still use headtaker/brutal momentum on them

[somber axle]

Nah I'm not a sweaty person. I'm just a fast clown

[coral willow]

but they can take crit builds now

[coral willow]

i meant as a you have to press m1 so much your hands gonna sweat no matter what

only real downside imho

[somber axle]

Not me

LOL

[coral willow]

welp good luck on your hand cause i gave up and used full auto

[somber axle]

I have done Weapon Specialist for the increased ranged attack speed paired with the Kantrael Mk IV

[coral willow]

i go the extra mile and use overwatch but overwatch kills too much of the cooldown shit
even with the 6sec cdr from killing specials its so slow

[somber axle]

The Infantry Lasgun with the fastest fire rate

I like clicking very fast

[coral willow]

my condolences for your index

[somber axle]

I main Recon so don't worry

My hands are not threatened by this game

[coral willow]

literally how a single game of mk3 knife makes my hand shit water

[somber axle]

If I mained Kantrael Mk IV Infantry Lasgun and Weapon Specialist I might be speedrunning carpal tunnel but like anything moderation is the keyword

[pliant agate]

Wasnt there a mod that shoots when you hold down? Kinda helps against that

Also knife against hordes is far worse I find

[somber axle]

I prefer playing with no mods and only reinstall scoreboard sometimes to check my own clown science then uninstall it again

I need no assistance to clown dance. Accessibility mods are important but the clown needs no accessibility ramp when they have the legs for the stairs

[pliant agate]

I dont run any mods either, but thats because each update , you have to wait for mods to be updated, and performance issues, etc etc. So i get where youre coming from.

[somber axle]

There are a lot of quality of life mods. A lot of mods that make testing easier. Mods that make cosmetics more customizable. I do not want any of them tbh. I know they are useful because I used to shove as many add ons as I could find into WoW for general play but I don't mind the default UI for Darktide, scoreboard is the only tool I need for clown science testing since I can roll any weapon I want to test from excess dockets/plasteel and I prefer my cosmetics being visible both client side and server side. Looking nice for myself is good but looking nice in a way others see too matters more to me

[flint lake]

Mods are great! Especially that scoreboard mod. I can be competitive when playing games so it helps feed my ego or temper it depending on results.

The weapon customization mod is probably the best overall for the simple fact that it adds various sights to player weapons. I really can’t stand using the Lucius Las rifle otherwise.

[somber axle]

It makes me judge people too much if I use it long term LOL

I don't want to be toxic

I saw someone going down a lot and struggling

Checked social tab to see what level they are

Level 19 Vet in a High Intensity Hunting Grounds Damnation

I protected them with my life from then on

It becomes more fun for me to not know the numbers because I can feel when someone is underperforming

[north raptor]

that mod gives you SO MANY numbers

[flint lake]

You can usually tell when someone is doing poorly without the scoreboard. It just confirms suspicions.

[somber axle]

I don't need to know how many tins/packs they stole, how much damage they took or how many times they went down to see they need help

And a clown must protect

I will die for new players

We all go home always

The ship needs all 4 or 0

[agile forge]

spray some of that faygo on them

hoop hoop

[flint lake]

Only numbers I care about how many disablers are killed and damage done.

[agile forge]

get confused by how magnets work

etc

[somber axle]

I can laugh at people doing goofy things but not so much at numbers

Someone throwing a smoke grenade at his feet when surrounded by Crushers and poxwalkers in a room without a single ranged enemy anywhere? I cackle irl

[flint lake]

Last time the game got me laughing was when I played on a team of 4 Psykers.

I kept exploding and got roasted each time.

[somber axle]

The most recent laugh was when my whole squad went down twice during a match and I had to solo clutch twice

[north raptor]

penances

[somber axle]

Smoke doesn't suppress Crushers or Poxwalkers for the penance which makes it extra funny

[north raptor]

dont you just need to get enemies in the aoe? i just did it

[somber axle]

Anyway on the second clutch I was being chased by a Plogryn, a Bulwark, a horde, dodging one asshole trapper and managed to circle around to get to the squad to try to get them up

I had to run in a big circle to create enough space from everything to attempt revives

Sniper literally camping the spot

Think I can get the revive off anyway

They shoot me and knock me off the team mate with a sliver of HP remaining

Bulwark and Plogryn literally behind me

Cackle as I fall back into a room and a squad mate calls the sniper something that is apparently not allowed to say in this server

Not a slur or anything

Anyway I ended up saving them and we killed the plogryn together because Infiltrate is magical

[north raptor]

friendship is magic

[somber axle]

I could kill the Plogryn solo because it's the easiest boss to duel but if I wanted to play a game solo I'd go play a different game

It's more fun to get the squad back on their feet and fight together

Also after the fight I said "Cadia stands" and one of them asked if my character was going to be in Space Marine 2 LOL

[north raptor]

cadia stans

[somber axle]

Tank build eats anything that the ai director can throw

[north raptor]

except 1 trapper

[somber axle]

Except 1 silent asshole trapper yes

[north raptor]

or exploding barrel

[somber axle]

I laugh when someone launches me with a barrel tbh

[north raptor]

i write their name in my deathnotebook

thats why so few ppl play darktide

[somber axle]

One time I got launched and after death my spectator mode camera went on the guy responsible who was still staring totally silent at where I had just died. Not moving. Not looking around. Just blank stare

[north raptor]

[somber axle]

He apologized

He made me laugh harder than most

[north raptor]

was it worth it

[somber axle]

The guy must have been in such disbelief and felt such guilt

His brain just 404'd

[north raptor]

or he thought you were a dork to get hit by a barrel explosion

you never know

[somber axle]

I am a dork yes

[north raptor]

i just assume everyone hates me and wants me to die

[somber axle]

I don't assume that until someone gives me a reason to think it

I wouldn't want to leave someone to die even knowing they'd leave me if the roles were reversed

We all go home always

Full dropship or no dropship

[split swan]

@hearty panther @hollow ibex @bitter turtle @radiant chasm thanks again for the build help yesterday, came up with a build that felt a lot better - move speed aura is really nice

[frank basin]

I wish should be 18% make it different

Or stackable same aura

[somber axle]

Decided to make a funny build using Infiltrate + Hunter's Resolve for maximum tank mode on my Cadian build

I discovered something funny

you can literally just eat poxbursters

LOL

don't need gold toughness

Cadians are just built different

[chrome steppe]

I underestimated that node. You can probably "oh shit" tank a crusher smack with that if needed.

[last parcel]

you can with a shit ton of juice

[somber axle]

yeah this can eat a Crusher overhead ezpz

triple toughness to go maximum silly hours

grabs both +25 toughness nodes and the +10% TDR node from the left side

Close Order Drill, Iron Will and Hunter's Resolve on their own already make you pretty unkillable so the 10% TDR feels unnecessary but I did it for the max silliness

I use this with Chainsword XIIIg and Kantrael Mk IV

Imperial Guard hours

[candid agate]

Olanius Pius build lmao

[somber axle]

the funniest moment was when a gunner was unloading all over my back while I was shooting at other things and I didn't even notice he was there until everything in front of me had been shot dead first

he was barely tickling me LOL

usually I notice my toughness dropping and start dodging but I wanted to just sit still and see how much I could eat

turns out a LOT

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-burger-monch-cat-eat-gif-22806539

[midnight totem]

mornin'

[candid agate]

may i ask why the use of sprint efficiency over other refinements?

[last parcel]

you may not
face the wall

[midnight totem]

because sprint efficiency is very useful

[somber axle]

using no stamina curios means you run out of sprint fast unless you stack sprint efficiency and numbers cat recently did the calculations on sprint efficiency being amazingly effective for extending sprint distance before 0 stamina

[candid agate]

i survived all those battles against tyranids for this?

[somber axle]

it allows me to keep up with the squad ezpz

[midnight totem]

when you're not running the 20 percent sprint efficiency node

[somber axle]

and not be on 0 stamina

[last parcel]

pretty much, yeah

[midnight totem]

15 on a curio is good enough

[somber axle]

I've considered swapping one of the sprint efficiency perks to a second sniper damage resistance perk

but then I don't even need the second sniper damage resistance perk with all this TDR

1 is enough

[candid agate]

if you have stealth ability you can just activate it and use the 25% extra speed in tandem with the extra efficiency for mega speed

[somber axle]

it'd just be so the sniper can look throw his scope, put a bullet in my teeth and watch it do nothing but make my teeth shine for the attempt making me look even more stylish

https://tenor.com/view/sparkling-teeth-chip-skylark-shiny-teeth-fairly-odd-parents-clean-teeth-gif-23883140

[somber axle]

yeah I use it to do that, for rescues and also whenever I feel like it'd be funny to just activate hunter's resolve to see if something can hurt me (it can't)

Cadian pops into stealth to stick with the squad and for rescues

Catachan uses stealth to sneak in and carve through the enemy

[candid agate]

2 different kinds of chads

[midnight totem]

I do both

enemies as a power sword blenders through the elites behind them

[hollow ibex]

next, try taking both the 5% movement speed talent and the movement speed aura 😉

[midnight totem]

"must have been the wind"

[somber axle]

Catachan build may look strange

until you look at what weapon I'm pairing it with

I love the speed of the Tac Axe so much with trench fighter and weapon specialist LOL

juicing it into cutting bruiser heads makes it so crazy for wiping hordes

[serene bough]

Another bonkers choice

I can't wait to try it myself

I havent touched tac axe since release

[somber axle]

plus I love the tac axe heavy downward swing and upward swing

don't have a Rashad Combat Mk II worth running yet but this feels like what people talk about Rashad doing

mobility is eh but I'll eat one less dodge

[midnight totem]

the tactical slow axe

[somber axle]

it feels so FAST though

oh also curios because I shared the curios for my Cadian build so why not

Catachan is hunting for money

[vast edge]

Where on earth are you finding all these 3+ stam curios?

[somber axle]

I've played a long time LOL

[vast edge]

I have none.

[somber axle]

I just check Brunt's shop when it refreshes tbh

I have a weird number of +3 stam curios

[vast edge]

😢

[somber axle]

I currently have six +3 stam curios

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-among-us-animated-just-some-plastic-gif-18581623

[somber axle]

I have seven +17% toughness curios though

[midnight totem]

an easier way of getting +3 stam curios is randoming them from melk

but make sure they're above 76 rating

so 77 rating and up

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/thursday-morning-gif-3452382699452419355

[somber axle]

oh I just noticed one of my stam curios is 75 LOL

[last parcel]

vote them out

I saw the redeemer's hand venting

[somber axle]

I want to keep it just because it's funny

ok swapping all the stam curios to HP instead on my Catachan build

just to confuse anyone who inspects me

[coral willow]

catachan build without catachan sword smh

[somber axle]

"I really hate double Grimoires" the curio set up

[somber axle]

it used to be with my Catachan sword but I like to change up weapons and experiment LOL

[coral willow]

you can do this with a zealot and confuse an ogryn

[vast edge]

Any way to make the MKVI Power Sword less sluggish?

[coral willow]

chargeup can be canceled with a well timed push attack while charging but otherwise not really

[vast edge]

Damn.

[coral willow]

you can try to use weapon specialist

makes it faster

[vast edge]

Was going to say.

[coral willow]

stamping on more attack speed also helps

other than those two vet doesnt get much attack speed really

[shadow aurora]

Yall ever think we'll get one of these?

[coral willow]

is that an actual laslock

[shadow aurora]

Fanart from reddit i think

[coral willow]

also if anything, worse longlas

[vast edge]

A proper kinetic bolt action would be nice.

[coral willow]

if a longlas comes i hope it does come with a boltaction autogun

maybe a shitty annoying dreg sniper as well

[somber axle]

there's the agripina shotgun if you want something close to bolt action gameplay but like yeah a real bolt action rifle would be nice

give us the sniper rifles

[vast edge]

LMG's too.

[somber axle]

pls

[coral willow]

wasnt this in gamefiles as png or something

yknow the uh penance thing

[shadow aurora]

I think

Double barrel and melta as well

[coral willow]

havent seen melta

[shadow aurora]

Something something profile banners

[coral willow]

and havent seen boltpistol until like a week ago

doublebarrel/boltpistol had a model and now we're getting it so thank god

problem is idk if we're actually getting other stuff

[vast edge]

Hellpistol?

Scab gunners hellgun but a pistol.

[coral willow]

can we just get a hellgun pls

i have a softspot for veteran rambo gameplay

[shadow aurora]

How would they differentiate hell guns from recons?

Slow down on shooting or something?

Id imagine its hard to control and move around

[coral willow]

same way 2h 1h weapons are handled ingame probably

slower movement speed, slowdown on fire like autopistols, thing cant proper aim like braced autoguns, but gets a armor pen modifier

[shadow aurora]

Autopistols slow you while shooting?

[vast edge]

Similar to the stubbers if I had to guess.

[shadow aurora]

Never noticed

[shadow aurora]

Itd have to be

[coral willow]

slows you down like 30% p sure i can notice it slowing me down at least

[somber axle]

Tinfoil hat theory: Recons had to be nerfed because eventually hellguns need to exist and be better than Recons at what Recons do

[coral willow]

tinfoil hat says IAG existing doesnt mean shit i guess

haha columnus

[somber axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978617811150725161/1248725762073428029/kasirkindekdekf.gif

yeah but idc about those weapons

Infantry Autoguns are boring to me

Braced Autoguns are boring to me

there are already a million games out there doing better gameplay for guns that shoot bullets

this one does good gameplay with lasfire

[shadow aurora]

Strange that theyd make the pistol slow you down

Autopistol definitely does not need that

Already is not very strong

[coral willow]

well it used to destroy everything so

[shadow aurora]

I try and stay away from autoguns

[somber axle]

same

literally every build I currently use is some flavour of lasgun

[coral willow]

i wish lasguns were good

[shadow aurora]

In a setting where i can have laser rifles bolt firing automatic guns and plasma launchers a bog standard automatic rifle doesn't appeal to me

[coral willow]

if it oneshot specials on the head i'd use it

can we have laspistol that spends entire mag to do revolver activities

[coral willow]

i like me a agrapina braced rambo gameplay

[somber axle]

and of course

my fav

my baby

[shadow aurora]

I use the mk2 brace amd autopistol and thats it for the autoguns

[vast edge]

I eagerly await the great force sword.

[coral willow]

me when ammo

[coral willow]

hope its on zealot

[gilded rock]

Same here, I only like the Columnus V because it is so very good with weapons specialist and it's an unruly little thing

[coral willow]

tbh if its on zealot i imagine only thing better than the original is the reach(2handed) and everything else is just worse cause its on zealot(and zealot can buff melee tenfold)

[somber axle]

me when I called out sick and then come back to find the 4 person Recon squad sent into Hab Dreyko is MIA

https://tenor.com/view/40k-darktide-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-12244864741850090018

[gilded rock]

Why are they just standing there

[coral willow]

oh yeah how the fuck did he lose with a plasma

[vast edge]

Skill diff.

[gilded rock]

he charge time dumpstat

that too

[coral willow]

he must've used overcharge exclusive

smh

[somber axle]

They just walked into an empty hall with zero resistance and only a few scattered bodies to a mostly uneventful entrance. They only JUST noticed the entire crowd of poxwalkers and the Chaos Spawn hiding behind them LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp44GNRzvCc

oh wait they weren't in Hab Dreyko

that's the assassination mission place

[coral willow]

why are they stil hanging in laranax after like idk ingame time at least a month

[gilded rock]

I mean moreso the horde and chaos spawn standing there

[coral willow]

they got dragged into dreyko and got hanged there

also i like the new dreyko story progression

we get to see the dreg leader names as well which is neat

[somber axle]

it's amazing there was enough of them intact to hang given the last scene we notice is them tangling with a Chaos Spawn

which might imply

[coral willow]

yeah

[somber axle]

they either killed or escaped the chaos spawn

only to eventually get caught by heretics and killed anyway

[coral willow]

you'd think spawn would eat them

either that or spawn threw all of them in a pit

fun

[somber axle]

they haven't noticed the 4 dumb guardsmen shining lights at them yet and it's probably because all resistance in that sector had been wiped out long before the recon squad arrives making the poxwalkers and chaos spawn more complacent in the dark

[last parcel]

they got thrown oob and clipped into hab dreyko

[gilded rock]

I don't believe spawns have the intelligence to do things like that iirc

[somber axle]

Planetary Defense Force haven't even been mentioned

you know they're mulch

[last parcel]

how do i convert to pdf

[coral willow]

arent pdf basically mobeian 21st rn

i wonder where the actual pdf are

possibly all turned into poxwalkers, that would be sadge

[somber axle]

they probably took whatever was left of the PDF and folded them into the 21st

[coral willow]

possibly

[somber axle]

most of them are likely KIA or poxwalkers

[coral willow]

any measure helps

[tall torrent]

they're KIA

they're hanging in hab dreyko

[somber axle]

yeah the recon squad

we mean the PDF

[coral willow]

we talking about pdfs so

[somber axle]

Planetary Defense Forces don't even get a name drop LOL

[coral willow]

i think they really just got merged into mobeian 21st

[somber axle]

The most we've heard of any forces even tangentially related to the governor are the Atoman Elite Vault Guard

[coral willow]

"yeah you are now mobeian 21st now and you still do the same thing but we have a bigger problem now"

[somber axle]

Carmine Fellowship cosmetic drop

[coral willow]

AEVG soundfs funny

[somber axle]

the survivors who were alive because the nobles told them to sit tight and guard a vault of treasure LOL

this set

[shadow aurora]

God there are so many cool looking patterns in this game. I really wish we could change cosmetic patterns

Would love to change the green on my ogryns sleeveless jacket to some bright colorful pattern

[somber axle]

agreed

but then they'd need to make proper new models to sell in shop rotation LOL

tbh I don't own a lot of recolours but I am aware they exist

[shadow aurora]

Imagine how many people theyd have to refund that bought recolors

[somber axle]

so far none of the cosmetic store chest pieces I've purchased are identical to any other

literally every single one is a unique model

I know some of them have recolours but I don't yet own those

meanwhile helmets:

[shadow aurora]

I stopped buying stuff from the shop some time ago but i do own both the navigator helmets for psyker

[somber axle]

3 recolours of the same helmet LOL

[warm idol]

coloring should just be a feature

[shadow aurora]

Least its a good model

[shadow aurora]

It should be but they get more money this way probably

[warm idol]

as always corporate greed continues to pollute games

[somber axle]

I agree but I have a bit of hope that at least some of the money goes toward game development and not all into some suit's pockets

boltpistol is coming

we got path of redemption update

tox bomber is new

penance system is new

new maps

hab dreyko updated

[warm idol]

ngl if bolt pistol is literally the only new weapon

[somber axle]

no voiced dialogue in matches

[warm idol]

that is coming next update

that will be fucking disappointing

[coral willow]

tox bastard*

[shadow aurora]

We getting 4

[still crater]

ogryn new 2 handed weapons

[somber axle]

we're also getting a double barrel shotgun and pickaxes

[shadow aurora]

Weapon*

[still crater]

ok 😩

[shadow aurora]

Other melee is for lil uns likely

[warm idol]

sure doesnt feel like it considering we are only getting a crafting rework

later this month

1 and a half year

of a broken system

[somber axle]

idk if you ignore all the other stuff they've done recently that sounds bad

but like

take it in the grander scope

look at all of the stuff we've gotten recently

put it together

[warm idol]

not really ignoring it but comparing it to other games

[somber axle]

the game IS getting attention and work

[warm idol]

and the fact that fatshark has made the same mistake as they did with vt2 with darktide

it doesn't make me optimistic

[shadow aurora]

You know what should be base game too? Replacement legs and eyes etc in the character creator. The fact my steel jaw on ogryn takes up a hat slot angers me

[coral willow]

4 with non-teased ones coming

[shadow aurora]

Wait really? I thought it was just 4

[somber axle]

if you want to compare it to other games look at SWTOR and see how they released an xpac with zero end game content, only an hour and a half of question, a single dungeon and that SINGLE DUNGEON was bugged and broken at launch preventing many people from even completing the tiny bit of content that WAS there

now keep in mind this was for their big May the 4th Celebration after hyping up that there would be a BIG RETURN to SWTOR and they were going to wow their fans

Fatshark is radio silent until they're ready to drop something

[warm idol]

wasn't swtor on life support for

[somber axle]

but at least they drop something worth our time

[warm idol]

a very long time?

[coral willow]

"more coming" apprantly

i doubt fatshank but still

it was came from one of the channels here

[shadow aurora]

Think that meant features generally

[warm idol]

main thing im comparing it to is helldivers 2 really but that has sony money so it makes sense for arrowhead to pump out a rather significant amount of content

dont get me wrong I love the game

[somber axle]

let me show you something

[warm idol]

but I really feel like it could use more time in the oven before release

[warm idol]

altho that goes for

so many games these days

[warm idol]

damn only 6k?

I honestly expected more

[somber axle]

Darktide technically has more players than SWTOR right now

LMFAO

though keep in mind this is just Steam charts

so the total number on SWTOR is definitely higher

but this is funny to see

[coral willow]

idk

[somber axle]

an MMORPG has less population than a 4 player co-op PvE shooter

[coral willow]

might be translation issue

to korean since i heard it overway

[astral blade]

Damn bro imma be real never knew that I’d rely on infiltrate so damn much during auric missions

[warm idol]

tbh aren't most mmos not very popular these days?

ffxiv is like

[coral willow]

i like MMOFPS

[warm idol]

the only big one outside of wow

and that's mainly because it has a ton of content just for the average player + a damn good story

[somber axle]

depends on how you define big

[warm idol]

as in 100k+ player counts daily

[astral blade]

I mean it also fits my play style the infiltrate ability but hell that ability for vet is my crutch

[shadow aurora]

WARFRAME SWEEP

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

[coral willow]

planetside 2 for me

[warm idol]

that's what I define "big" as in mmo

[astral blade]

And I hate admitting it

[warm idol]

oh man that brings back memories

[somber axle]

ignore the active players today metric

that's definitely bugged

[warm idol]

I haven't played that game in like 8 years

[coral willow]

"big" any less than 1200 playeers all doing fucking nothing for an hour is the pinnacle of mmo

[somber axle]

no idea what half of these are but like

[coral willow]

i think the server died so they lowered it down to 900 but still

i'd play planetside but 40k

[warm idol]

I wonder how planetside is doing these days

[somber axle]

many of the big name MMOs still have pretty big audiences

[coral willow]

idk how to balance it but still

[warm idol]

I miss it but last I played most of my friends stopped

and it was mostly just zergfits

and really dedicated players

so new player experience was really bad

I tried getting people into it only for them to quit less than 10 hours in

[somber axle]

idk how accurate this website is but if this is true

not so good

[warm idol]

gw2 is still pulling those numbers?

surprising

I should get back to it at some point

I bought the last dlc years ago but never got around to playing it

[coral willow]

new player exp got better cause thers more ways of earning certs now

but still zergfits

[warm idol]

I don't mind zergfits but I prefer more spread out battles

sadly that is harder to achieve with a smaller playerbase split between servers

[warm idol]

it's a reliable site yes

ps2 wasn't doing well for a long time

the game was getting a lot of hype on beta and release but stuff like slow progression as well as balance issues made people leave

which resulted in more people leaving

the game could have been so much more

by the time they were making really good changes most people have stopped

worst part is that there is nothing quite like it

[coral willow]

and never will

[warm idol]

imagine if it was in the hands of a more caring developer/publisher

[tardy plaza]

This is how I feel about Deathwing

[warm idol]

man

that game was

interesting

[tardy plaza]

A game all about my favorite chapter, fucking abandoned

[warm idol]

I enjoyed it but just got bored quickly

[tardy plaza]

They didn't make anything for it

[warm idol]

at least we will have space marine 2

you will be able to make your dark angel with that

[hearty panther]

ye agile engagement on the bayonet is also goated

[warm idol]

operations looks hype

altho I hope they have a horde mode too at some point after launch

[coral willow]

newer updates have revived a bit until it died it seems

[hearty panther]

oh that was hours ago

[warm idol]

another game I wish was more popular is gbo2

[coral willow]

man id fucking kill for a mmofps like ps2 but good

[warm idol]

despite the gacha mechanics

it's has some of the best gameplay in a gundam game

the suits have weight to them

but if you aren't playing on prime time in japan

good luck

it's also peer to peer

and the game came out on pc last year

and on ps in 2018

mecha sadly is a genre that is doomed to remain really niche

hopefully armored core 6 stoked the fires

[coral willow]

only other game i play is blue archive which i only play to write a heretical warhammer fanfic dont mind this

[warm idol]

at bare minimum fromsoft will make more AC games

[coral willow]

ac6 was great

[warm idol]

it was honestly my GOTY of 2023 along with bg3

[coral willow]

where my lies of pee

[warm idol]

that was fun too

by far

the best soulslike I ever played

[coral willow]

i wonder how

stellar blade holds up

from what ive seen its soulslike but with you get ult guage to hack&slash enemies basically

[warm idol]

i'd rather avoid gacha games

[coral willow]

i'd do too

[warm idol]

despite friends that keep telling me to play girls frontline or blue archive

[coral willow]

i'd post a funny emperor as sensei clip but i dont wanna get bonked here so

[warm idol]

I aint falling down that rabbit hole

same for genshin

[warm idol]

armored core in general is a franchise that deserves recognition

the gameplay

the god tier mecha designs

the lore

it's all so good

also it's fromsofts baby

[coral willow]

when will miyazaki actually release bloodborne pc

[warm idol]

longest running franchise they had afaik

[warm idol]

that's upto sony

it's weird how they aren't releasing bb on pc

so many years later

but ragnarok is getting a pc release

so early

[coral willow]

better graphics more money

also helldivers kinda died on me

its great game but kinda falls flat on progression

[warm idol]

I think progression is fine

it's just fun to play

I am taking breaks to avoid burnout

but the core gameplay, especially if you are with friends it's just so fucking good

just blasting away

[coral willow]

it feels grindy the same as darktide but in different way

[warm idol]

dropping airstrikes gives me dopamine

well the grind in hd2 after you get to like

[candid agate]

theres a point where the helldivers initial fun dies out, its happened to me and the game is only getting worse with bad patches and warbonds

[coral willow]

and focuses more on big boom rather than me stabbing you with a knife

[warm idol]

a few really good ship upgrades

isn't really important because most upgrades don't do much

[coral willow]

still dont get how darktide makes better balance patches than helldivers

[warm idol]

wheter it's good or bad is subjective

but it didn't feel grindy to me

[warm idol]

yeah balance is wack

hopefully with a new balance lead

they will do better

[coral willow]

prior ceo

he's based

[candid agate]

pilestedt better deliver

[warm idol]

the guy cares about his game

it's nice seeing that

[coral willow]

hes genuinely fucking based

havent seen a gamedev letalone a ceo do that

drops his crown to go leashing his army of underpaid interns gamedevs

[candid agate]

more like he dropped his own leash, doesnt seem like he was enjoying being CEO even before these balance issues

[terse idol]

Maybe slow firing un-aimed
Hits hard

[coral willow]

damn

[terse idol]

And a charge up and mag dump when you aim

[coral willow]

anyhoo real fun seeing that

and then seeing

like

payday 3

mmm

[warm idol]

also elden ring dlc this month

then ffxiv dlc

[coral willow]

idk what is with sweden and pve games

[warm idol]

gamin is eatin good

[terse idol]

Payday 3 when

Literally dead

[coral willow]

they just make good even if they suck balls

[tardy plaza]

Idk why payday 3 surprised anybody

[terse idol]

😌

[coral willow]

it didnt

how will it win against 10 years of modding

[warm idol]

I never got into payday so I wouldn't be able to tell ya

[terse idol]

Yeah I mean it didn't how could you ever live up yo payday 2

Yes with a modding scene

[tardy plaza]

Not even modding, just literally mountains of dlc content / characters / missions

[terse idol]

And already like 5-10 years of content

[tardy plaza]

PD3 was never going to have more than like 5 missions at launch lol

[warm idol]

also space marine 2 in september

[terse idol]

I thought payday 3 had good gunplay and that was it

[tardy plaza]

They couldn't live up to it

[terse idol]

It was clearly undercooked

[coral willow]

im the guy who bought overkills the walking dead and i dare say tis better than the mess that is b4b

[terse idol]

The skill system lacked

And that really fucked it up

[warm idol]

the only thing that would make me even more excited is an announcement of an armored core standalone xpac to 6

since every AC game has had one

or in the case of ac3

3 standalone expansions

[candid agate]

bro i want a remastered AC4/ACFA

that would make my life complete

[warm idol]

as much as I want it you know that has a very tiny chance of happening

but by god

what would I do for a remastered for answer

[candid agate]

bro what i wouldnt do is an easier list to make

[coral willow]

i like AC but i like other AC more

(ace combat)

[candid agate]

and yeah it sucks since AC4 and FA did horribly on sales that makes them unlikely to remaster it

[warm idol]

remastered spirit of motherwill or occupation of arteria carpals

[candid agate]

i wanna see bigger cradles

[warm idol]

I demand 1v5 AC fight fromsoft

I need harder battles

[candid agate]

isnt old king there tho

[warm idol]

yeah but at least for me he tended to die

pretty quickly

[candid agate]

true

guess you have to make it so you take majority aggro

which will make you die faster

[warm idol]

ill do anything to see a remastered white glint or 03 aaliyah

my beloved aaliyah

peak AC design

[candid agate]

true

[warm idol]

also one funny thing about for answer

it's western publisher

is ubisoft

[candid agate]

oh yeah that

feels wrong that such a good game was published by ubishit

[warm idol]

I doubt any old ac games will be remastered

sadly

[warm idol]

it feels like just remastering the old gens would sell well

purely because it has fromsofts name on it

they are quite short games too

the fact that each playthrough of AC6 was 20+ hours is a massive step up

and makes me super optimistic for the future

[candid agate]

but like ac6 they have different endings depending on playthrough

[warm idol]

especially if it means getting more levels like grid 086

[candid agate]

so like double or triple playtime

[warm idol]

that was just a masterful level

yeah

last raven has like what

4-5 endings?

[candid agate]

yeah 086 is defo top 10 levels

[warm idol]

086 just scratches an itch

it's a big level with stuff on the side to find

as well as aesthetically just being pure armored core

a massive industrial superstructure

[candid agate]

its like midgard of GOW4 thats been scrunched into one area

[warm idol]

what's your top 5?

[candid agate]

hmm

[warm idol]

for me it's prolly 1. Grid 086
2. Breach the karman line
3. Defend the dam complex
4. Attack the watchpoint
5. Attack the old spaceport

[candid agate]

5 is 086
4 is karman line
3 is the ayre fight
2 is the alliguazu fight
1 is the defend the damn complex

[warm idol]

breach made me feel like a gundam protag

[candid agate]

yeah breach made me feel like a NEXT again

[warm idol]

also has the best theme in the whole game for rusty

you flew just out of reach... buddy

[candid agate]

the second last ayre mission has it as well

[warm idol]

the remix from disc3 makes it go even harder

[warm idol]

ah man the final mission was so damn good

iguazu is just pure salt

[candid agate]

havent actually listened to disc 3 yet, probably should

[warm idol]

you should it's a banger

[candid agate]

yeah i never saw iguazu of all people being the final boss

[warm idol]

rusted pride remix, cinders, blackout, takes me anywhere and contact with you remix are defo my top 5

even has an ac4 remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2HB4Jsgkkc

[candid agate]

so they have aknowledged its existence, so theres a chance

[warm idol]

honestly I know people who legit never heard of armored core but still recognize white glint

it's design is just iconic as all hell

[candid agate]

no surprise walters AC had the same artist behind white glint

[warm idol]

yep

[candid agate]

both are top tier in looks

[warm idol]

walters fight was also just good for the pure emotion behind it

he truly went above and beyond for 621

[candid agate]

literally broke out of a lobotemy for us

[warm idol]

snail was also just such a good antagonist

he is just so hateable

it's amazing

0 redeeming qualities

love how freud shittalks him too

[candid agate]

only redeeming quality is hes a good pilot, but his AC is so shit

he has light weapons on a heavy frame

[warm idol]

he is a shittier pilot than freud who is legit just a normal human

built diff

[candid agate]

freud is just that guy lol

no reason

[warm idol]

is a wandering murderhobo

who just wants to fight

[candid agate]

corporate version of us lol

[warm idol]

he isn't mad or coping when you kill him or anything

he legit just wants more

[candid agate]

yeah i wanted more of him as well

but i one shotted him when i staggered him with a pile bunker like 5 seconds into the fight

[warm idol]

yeah I wish in 6.5 they would tone down stagger

that system just breaks the game

[candid agate]

yeah definitely

[warm idol]

the foundations are great

but some systems need tuning/changes

primal armor was the superior system

gave a lot of weapons purpose

[candid agate]

you could keep the damage increase and stagger itself for melee and other weapons but everything loses attitude immediately

yeah primal armour kept most weapons viable

[warm idol]

ACFA in general just had really good balance and had tons of viability between parts

[thin stone]

Lol

[candid agate]

exactly, but the issues to me was that speed was so good that most fights lasted between 5-10 seconds and was just me facing my oponnent and listening for the lock sound and shooting while spamming quick boost

[warm idol]

yeah the speed is part of the appeal but imo 6's gamespeed is just this great middle line

between 3rd and 4th gen

[candid agate]

yeah 3rd and below feels too slow sometimes and 4th speed is the point like you said

6 feels like 3rd and below + 5th but refined perfectly

[warm idol]

also increasing range is another thing I want them to do

there are like

no "normal" rifles

no snipers either

curtis and harris seem like snipers but they are more like mid range weapons

[candid agate]

yeah it makes the mid-long range FCS' kinda worthless

unless your a missle boat

[warm idol]

technically it's part of the lore with the "core theory" being all about close range fights

but I miss long range being an option

[candid agate]

yeah

it also makes manual aim just pointless since in close range your enemy moves too much to logically keep track of them

[somber axle]

I love Loose Cannon personality so much

"The guard doesn't leave any mates behind." when picking people up

Professional just looks at Ogryn and goes "Ogryn! Listen. To. Me! Get. Up!"

Tried out Cutthroat, tried out Professional

ended up on Loose Cannon again anyway

[warm idol]

I like professional because of of many deadpan deliveries he has

[candid agate]

@warm idol anyway its been fun talking to another AC enthusiat but i gotta go do stuff, have a good day fellow Raven

[warm idol]

gives the vibe of someone who just doesn't really give much of a shit anymore

[warm idol]

have a good day raven

it's always good to see a fellow armored core enjoyer in the wild

[candid agate]

indeed

[somber axle]

I liked Professional for a while and wanted a voice that would better fit the various Guard Regiment looks I tend to wear (Elysian, Catachan, Krieg, Cadian)

Professional felt like a really good fit at first but at least for women she tends to be a bit less fun than Loose Cannon and a bit more rude

[tall torrent]

I don’t play female characters if I have the choice lol

[somber axle]

But I did find out that Fem Professional flirts with Male Judge Zealot

[somber axle]

That's fair. I don't tend to play men but Ogryns are the exception because there's no other option

[tall torrent]

Ogryn’s gender is “Ogryn”

[somber axle]

I've made men in other games when they had gender specific looks (pretty much any MMORPG) but Darktide has literally no difference between men and women for cosmetics so it's an easy pick

Some MMOs end up giving armour that just looks dumb on women and give the good looks to men

really sucks

same piece of armour

for some reason one just loses all covering across your midriff on women while it has perfect protection on men

just stab me in the gut

[tall torrent]

Most MMOs give women the better looking Armor tho

[somber axle]

I've literally left a hole for you to stab

[tall torrent]

Oh that, yea

Yea.

[terse idol]

Ah age o'l bikini armour

[tall torrent]

[somber axle]

for some stuff I agree but for armour specifically no

[terse idol]

I really wished we had an option

To pick either

For both men and women

[somber axle]

My healer boots have stilleto heels and I have no idea why

[terse idol]

Gotta look fabulous while healing 🌟

[somber axle]

The funniest moment was Metzen admitting that his kid asked him why Night Elves were dressed like that and he couldn't answer

because like

[tall torrent]

I will say tho

I feel DT male voices sound better with the voice modulator

[somber axle]

how does Metzen explain that he was a horny fucking post-college game developer with a bunch of other horny post-college game devs who all thought half naked elf warriors springing from the shadows was hot

[terse idol]

He should just own it

[somber axle]

to his KID??

no LOL

[terse idol]

I mean his kid'll figure out later somehow

[somber axle]

I agree 100%

[terse idol]

[somber axle]

Vet men voices with helmet modulator sound way cooler

[somber axle]

anyway yeah that's the dream

just a toggle that lets you choose between full armour and half armour

has no bearing on stats

just aesthetic

can change it depending on which you feel like using

if you don't like one look you're not locked into using it just because your created your character as a man or woman

and that's why I wear clown costumes

they're perfect for both

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/lmsh-letmesoloher-elden-ring-elden-ring-meme-legend-gif-25495201

This is peak armor performance

Bikinis for women, loincloth for men

[somber axle]

this is going to sound really stupid but

I found a way to get desperado on my recon build

and with exe stance popping literally just to activate For the Emperor, Marksman and Close Quarters Kill Zone I can get the Combat Knife to 2HKO Crushers reliably LMFAO

[last parcel]

this is next level clownery

[somber axle]

knife 2HKO but you're mostly in the left side of the tree LMFAO

[last parcel]

[somber axle]

if I run out of ammo on Recon

pop exe stance

go melee a Crusher

and still rip their throat out

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pillow-bite-angry-angry-cat-gif-25541136

I'm out of ammo but I'm not out of options

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/it-pennywise-evil-clown-hello-arm-gif-14096077

[arctic rampart]

how many sunday gamers are in the queue today

is it full of "ambitious" plays

[somber axle]

I did a High Intensity Shock Trooper Gauntlet on Hab Dreyko today and the three people I got were good

we only had 1 death and it was from the zealot who ragequit the match within the first 2 minutes

after that the Ogryn who replaced them just sorta fell into the rhythm of things

oh also

https://gyazo.com/531ac10c4aeca6cedbf6cb025ae9a0cf

[last parcel]

pet the recon for good luck

https://tenor.com/view/mmm-yess-pet-kitty-hmm-yes-pet-cat-petting-kitty-gif-25291770

[somber axle]

because every day I make this build slightly more confusing

[somber axle]

LMFAO

[thin stone]

Hi

[somber axle]

the wild thing is that like with the melee damage talents from right side you could probably push knife to comfortably 1HKO at least the first Crusher or two

assuming you're not eating talent tax for your love of Recon lasguns

[flint lagoon]

best skill tree for veteran crit build? I mainly used ranged.

[somber axle]

ok I got it

Knife can 1HKO

and it doesn't even need something silly like Combat stim to do it either

LOL

[somber axle]

are you a deadshot fiend

also what ranged weapon

[flint lagoon]

I should have stated. I need it for adept assassin.

I use columnus mk 5.

[somber axle]

oh

Weapon Specialist gives you a guaranteed crit when you have at least 3 stacks of melee specialist

so kill 3 things in melee

shoot something in the head

[flint lagoon]

tbf though, I'll grit my teeth and use any ranged weapon just to get it done. It's literally the last penance I need for Vet.

[somber axle]

I'd do something with cleave tbh

Revolver would be best

[flint lagoon]

Does it count if you gun bash things yeah?

[somber axle]

if you can line up heads the guaranteed crit will pierce multiple heads at once with the crit and get you multiple points

no

you need to go melee

[flint lagoon]

rogerrr.

[somber axle]

swap ranged

also revolver pistol whip is very low damage

if you could kill something with it you probably spent 20 seconds slapping a poxwalker in a corner first

[last parcel]

it took 45 seconds of straight bashing to kill a scab shooter

point blank users stay winning

[flint lagoon]

Weapon specialist only gives +33% crit chance?

[somber axle]

yes per stack

[last parcel]

for each stack

[somber axle]

which is why you need 3 stacks

[flint lagoon]

ohhhhhhhh!

[somber axle]

kill 3 things in melee and now you have 100%

[flint lagoon]

yeah seen.

cheers mate.

[oblique totem]

Well, 99 percent

[last parcel]

plus the base crit chance

[somber axle]

yeah

base crit chance will usually push that to 100%

but I think the Autoguns get negative crit chance for base

[oblique totem]

Yuep

[somber axle]

Revolver isn't negative base crit chance afaik

but you can also just grab the +5% crit chance node in the talent tree to offset that

[oblique totem]

I mean. Sure

[somber axle]

it's not too talent point tax heavy to reach unless you're hugging the left side of the talent tree on your way down to get weapon specialist

anyway here we go

[oblique totem]

Wait

[somber axle]

https://gyazo.com/9f6101e64f644e95afdde873686b7ae0

did the funny 1HKO Crusher stab

WoW rogue days are BACK

I thought I'd have to time it right with agile engagement to get the buff for extra melee damage and maybe even pop a combat stim but no

none of that is necessary

Knife can just do this

[oblique totem]

I noticed you use focus keystone and not weapon specialist?

[somber axle]

for the funny 1HKO Knife Crusher Kill Clown Science yes

in the middle of clown science I started giving advice for the weapon specialist crit weakspot kill penance

but a clown can juggle

[oblique totem]

I see

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/juggle-simp-gif-21990554

[last parcel]

I'm getting deja vu from this

[somber axle]

for reference

for this specific test I did not use For the Emperor but I did use 8 stack focus target

I redid the test without 8 stack

it can still comfortably 1HKO Crusher with this set up:

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set up deez nuts

[gilded rock]

Dude since when did they take away the forced walking from infiltrate

I wouldve been using this so much sooner if I knew

[somber axle]

well

I say "comfortably" but like

1HKO requires you to have max Executor stacks, max Uncanny stacks, Focus Target on the Crusher and you need a crit

and that's with the +30% from Infiltrate with the Surprise Attack node

I'm sure if you grab For the Emperor and maybe Fire Team with a better knife than mine you could squeeze it into 1HKO on non-crit head stab

it's surprisingly close

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i need to recheck the clip to see how close i got

i don't think I ever retested with a fully statted knife

[somber axle]

the knife I used for these tests

that's enough clown science for today

[last parcel]

suuure

[somber axle]

I still have Revolver max reload speed for both agripina and zarona on the list of clown science things to do

[coral willow]

speedload?

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plus all the reload talents

lightning hands

like being finger blasted by dragonforce

[somber axle]

I'm having a problem with trying to get max stacks for speedload

revolver has such crazy suppression that, in melee range, shooting even one target, it suppresses everyone else

literally point blanking a scab brusier and then the dreg shooter next to him runs off and begins crouching in fear of me

LMFAO

ok I think I got it

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dreg stalker starts running and tripping
sound of rapidly approaching squeaking shoes

[hearty panther]

i liked speedload way more when it was melee kills

[somber axle]

I had to do the testing by the specials

the non-elite non-special enemy types kept cowering

https://gyazo.com/2b2f9cedbc25397257a242aebef52267

[coral willow]

me when using autopistol nothing gets threatened and powderburn never works

[somber axle]

yeah it's funny that autopistol spraying is worse than literally just one shot from a revolver but the NPCs know which is more dangerous

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didn’t you miss out on the WS reload speed

[somber axle]

damnit

the buff dropped off before I got max speedload stacks

ok more clown science time

[coral willow]

powderburn would be god tier if it was on shotguns

[hearty panther]

if it worked at all really