veteran-class

[somber axle]

If I didn't live somewhere too hot for one, I would want a Tibetan Mastiff

They're HUGE

And most of that size seems to be fur LOL

[umbral scaffold]

Is there a way to build veteran so it's not awful or boring?

[orchid hemlock]

No

[umbral scaffold]

OOh

Ig then the veteran channel only gets used to post pets?

[agile forge]

I like every build idk lol

Chainsword is more fun than power sword

[umbral scaffold]

Is there any good guns besides plasma gun though?

[lime gyro]

Birb

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah i don't like power sword that much

[agile forge]

Yes, most of them tbh

[orchid hemlock]

Collumnus 5 😎

[umbral scaffold]

😐

what's collumnus 5

[agile forge]

I use CIAG, plasma, zarona, helbore 2 and infantry lasgun 1a

[agile forge]

Columnus infantry autogun

[umbral scaffold]

oh damn it nvm

the servers are down

it doesn't matter cause i won't be able to remember any of this tomorrow

[austere pine]

agri iag is basically an AK if you're willing to use a similar gun to ciag but not ciag

[agile forge]

Lmao take a screenshot or something

[somber axle]

Ohmygosh

[austere pine]

i'll tag u

[agile forge]

Agri pierces better

[austere pine]

it's basically an AK, as i said

[agile forge]

Deals with friendly ogryn walls

[umbral scaffold]

I'll lose it

[agile forge]

But CIAG is the deeps

[umbral scaffold]

and also forget to loo kfor it

[austere pine]

set is as ur background

[umbral scaffold]

my back ground's too good to change...

[austere pine]

pics or it isn't

[umbral scaffold]

I'll just try different guns tomorrow when the servers are up

i can't it's tasteful but still lewd

[somber axle]

If you're still leveling one then I'd recommend waiting to hit 30 before you decide. The class does get really fun in my opinion. If you want something flashy you'll probably enjoy Zealot, Psyker or Ogryn more though

[misty crypt]

I like the revolver personally

[umbral scaffold]

i am 30

[somber axle]

There are lots of really funny builds

[umbral scaffold]

but the problem is the amount of resources i'm wasting trying different guns

cause i'm building them up so i can give them ana ctual try

then i end up hating them anyway

[agile forge]

That is fair

[umbral scaffold]

stararting to think veteran isn't meant for damnation

[somber axle]

Ok what sorta playstyle do you like? Hyper mobile frontline fighter? Do you like pulling up the backline and sniping?

[agile forge]

Very false but OK

[austere pine]

very untrue

[agile forge]

Might just be not your style though

[umbral scaffold]

I'm trying to shoot specialists / elites

[misty crypt]

I play my guard with sword and revolver and just quickly swap from one to another to get my target. It's a bit tiring because it's very nervous to play for me but it's very complete of a gameplay

[austere pine]

tell em ulgo

[hoary horizon]

Could use some help for build for situation when surrounded.

NEVERMIND! ULGO SOLVED IT

[agile forge]

That part depends on your gun too

[austere pine]

shredder frag

[last parcel]

GIVE EM THE OLE KASRKIN DOUBLE TAP

[austere pine]

or chainsword 4

[misty crypt]

Push the horde, dodge in the space created, repeat until u've packed them in front of you (as you can...)

[austere pine]

SHOW ME THOSE UGLY GRINS

[agile forge]

Like CIAG wants to shoot anything outside Carapace, including trash shooters

[hoary horizon]

You say that but he work good

[umbral scaffold]

WWhy's the server down?

[orchid hemlock]

Vet is probably the most consistent class atm what

[hoary horizon]

Too late got better plan

[misty crypt]

Anything that fits!

[agile forge]

Chainsword 4 is a revelation

[hoary horizon]

FOR CREED!

[austere pine]

having realized the power of chainsword 4, i no longer wish for pc4

[somber axle]

The best weapons for special/elite hunting in no particular order are

Columnus Infantry Autogun
Zarona Revolver
Plasma

But some other weapons that do it well imo:

Helbores (any of them)
Headhunter Autoguns (VII and III)
Kantrael Infantry Lasguns (Mk IV and Mg1a patterns, XII is ok but lags behind the other two)
Boltgun

[umbral scaffold]

idk i play zealot or ogryn and the game's cringe ass easy

[agile forge]

Only bad point is Carapace performance

[umbral scaffold]

even psyker's easy

[midnight totem]

I prefer the 13g chainsword

[umbral scaffold]

vet feels like a constant upheaval where when my teammates inevitably leave me behind i'm gonna be in trouble

[hoary horizon]

Usin axe. But missin some stam. Solution? Get more stam!

[austere pine]

agri infantry autogun is a very honorable mention

[agile forge]

You need to be able to melee out of a situation too

[umbral scaffold]

might try those laser guns and helbores then

[misty crypt]

Haha I need to add some stamina to my trinkets too...

[somber axle]

Yeah the Infantry Autoguns are all really good. The Columnus variant is just crazy broken right now

[hoary horizon]

Veteran is harder cuz yous gotta think more strategics

[austere pine]

good range without really sacrificing horde-go-away potential

[umbral scaffold]

That's the thing fam i tried the shovel

[austere pine]

columnus struggles a bit with longer ranges

[midnight totem]

Why are they leaving you behind?

[hoary horizon]

Blockin too. Luv me axe an shotgun combo

[umbral scaffold]

idk actually

[agile forge]

Which shovel though

[umbral scaffold]

they just seemed to be running around haphazardly yesterday morning

[agile forge]

The 7 gets great results but idk

[misty crypt]

Sounds gross haha, 2 weapons I'll probably never even test but anything that works for you, just works!

[agile forge]

Some teams just won't play like a team though

[somber axle]

I'd recommend trying a Helbore Mk I if it is your first time playing a Helbore. The Mk I and Mk II get a really cool, fast bayonet stab special attack and you can sprint while holding the button to do a bayonet charge. You even move slightly faster doing the bayonet sprint than the normal sprint!

[umbral scaffold]

I wasn't using the 7

I'll try the helbore then

I want a bayonet weapon actually

[somber axle]

Bayonet 1 shots pox hounds, kills Muties fast and can even stagger stun ragers while you stab them down

[agile forge]

Helbore and shovel 7 is a great combo tbh

[umbral scaffold]

so i can keep my gun out and still be able to deal with some melee

[hoary horizon]

Not the smelly tiny ones. But da big one!

[misty crypt]

That's so world War inspired 😂

[umbral scaffold]

alright i think i have a 7 shovel that i didn't use yet

[agile forge]

The downside of the helbore is long swap time

[somber axle]

Helbores are nice for stopping to just bayonet the single poxwalker that snuck up behind you before continuing to shoot

[agile forge]

Hence the bayonet

[hoary horizon]

You take shotgun for chunk of horde to enter in it. Then axe away!

[somber axle]

No need to swap melee

[agile forge]

It lets you kill stuff in melee without having to swap

So you can keep your actual melee for situational stuff

[somber axle]

The bayonet is unironically a very powerful melee weapon

[agile forge]

Like for heavy horde weight, and for crushers

The bayonet does good boss dps too

[umbral scaffold]

is the server actually down for darktide? or is it just on my end?

[somber axle]

The only awkward part about Helbores are the sights and weapon swap speed

[misty crypt]

I'm convinced a 20 cm long or something, steel sting thing, is very efficient at debating with a disagreeing person

[agile forge]

Tbh I'm into the shitty sights

[somber axle]

Be careful with the Mk III Helbore because it is the hardest hitting but also slowest firing variant and it gets a bayonet swing, not a bayonet stab like the Mk I and Mk II Helbores

[agile forge]

I feel like it's designed to be a midrange gun

And the infantry lasguns are the long range variant

[umbral scaffold]

oh ok it was my steam. darktide still up

[somber axle]

Mk III on paper looks like the best version because it has the biggest damage number but I still prefer the Mk II over it

[chrome steppe]

Skinheads might have adopted the clothing, but they don't have a big foothold in any punk scene. They take pride in punching Nazis.

[orchid hemlock]

What I'm saying is that if I had a vet on my team running aurics, I don't care how dogshit they are, as long as they press the F key every time it is off cooldown with the shout.

The rest is giving me free ammo

[somber axle]

Mk II Helbore has the fastest firing speed but also the lowest damage per shot so it is the hardest of the Helbores to build correctly

[agile forge]

Best I can do is turn enemies yellow

For myself only

[serene bough]

Pls no helsnores

[misty crypt]

Mine shout in a pretty angry way indeed as soon as I see a blue bar going down (or when something bigger than an ogryn starts drooling looking at us)

[serene bough]

The bayonet was patched

[austere pine]

you're talking about the original skinheads or the dudes that appropriated the culture? skinheads were originally, and technically still are, vehemently anti nazi and whatnot. boneheads are the racists who adopted the skinhead culture and tainted it

[serene bough]

There is no more reason to run helsnores now

[agile forge]

Or you hear a poxburster jumping

[agile forge]

It's still decent is the thing

[somber axle]

All of the Helbores want Surgical and Weight of Fire for both blessings. Mk II Helbore also needs Unarmoured as a weapon perk to meet the Dreg Gunner 1HKO breakpoint, Maniac for the Flamer 1HKO breakpoint or Carapace to reduce Crusher shots to kill from 5-7+ down to 2-3 shots per Crusher. I personally value Dreg Gunner and Crusher breakpoints more than Flamer so I go with Unarmoured/Carapace

[agile forge]

It just isn't OP now

[orchid hemlock]

What

[somber axle]

Mk I Helbore is much easier to build

[agile forge]

Arguably the 2 doesn't need WoF

[serene bough]

Im sorry, they're no longer a thing

[somber axle]

Not nearly as tight on breakpoints

[misty crypt]

No, for this I just run at the burster to push him second before one of my dear comrades empty his weapon at him

[agile forge]

So sayeth the numbers cat

[serene bough]

Now is the time for recon

Remove your shackles and dump 50 bullets to kill a rager

[somber axle]

It doesn't need it but have you felt how buttery smooth a Mk II Helbore with 80% charge stat and Weight of Fire IV feels when you get max stacks going? True bliss

None of the other blessings are good

[tiny summit]

Also it's just because helbore lacks good blessings other than those 2

[somber axle]

No Respite doesn't help on any major breakpoints

The others are very eh

[last parcel]

falter chads

[agile forge]

Numbers cat told me to do no respite

[somber axle]

The time of the Reclown is Eternal

[agile forge]

But that's my changeable slot

I can go back to WoF

[serene bough]

Ogryn recon when?

[somber axle]

Is that helping you on any breakpoints? If not then it's objectively worse than Weight of Fire because the latter increases firing speed for increased boss DPS and faster TTK on targets that take more than 1 shot to put down

[chrome steppe]

I think you were responding to me. I didn't know that about original skinheads, but yeah they only have cheap imitations and appropriations.

[somber axle]

20% more damage on a staggered target sounds good in theory but that's only coming into effect if

1. Target doesn't die in 1 shot
2. Target is staggered by the first shot

And it is meaningless unless that 20% extra damage is pushing the damage high enough to kill a target in one less shot

Otherwise it is just funny fluff for bigger number that doesn't actually change gameplay

[umbral scaffold]

Alright I'll try new byuld

[midnight totem]

Does no respite work on the bayonet stab?

[somber axle]

Might ease the breakpoint on something? But I can't really think of any target that you're not already 1HKOing that you stagger and can hit a breakpoint with from said stagger

Anything that takes multiple shots (Bulwark, Reaper, Mutie, Crusher, Mauler) isn't getting staggered off of a single Helbore shot

[somber axle]

Yeah but as far as my own testing it didn't lower number of stabs on Ragers

So like the one possible good use case I tested had no actual value

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[midnight totem]

I see

[serene bough]

I dream of a day when the blessing efficiency becomes meta

[somber axle]

It's basically Falter but instead of being up front about how bad it is, No Respite makes you think bigger number better because 20% more damage looks good even if it doesn't actually do anything

[midnight totem]

I figured there might be some fun bp shenanigans with stagger from shout then stsb

[serene bough]

I think efficiency is the single worst blessing in the entire game

[somber axle]

Falter

Falter literally does nothing LMFAO

[serene bough]

They both basically do nothing

[last parcel]

im putting falter and efficiency on my mg4

[tall torrent]

Shovel is not that good at horde clear

[somber axle]

I tested Falter IV on a Helbore Mk III and had to purposely use a build with as little ranged damage as possible to test if Falter let it stagger Crushers, and even THAT didn't help

Even purposely gimping your damage to get extra shots on a Crusher doesn't let Falter stagger them

[tall torrent]

Veteran’s top 3 melee weapons are
Combat axe mk2, Power sword mk6, Combat blade mk6

Combat axe mk2 is the best all-rounder
Power sword mk6 has better lethality but worse mobility
Combat blade mk6 has best mobility & single target but worst horde clear

[orchid hemlock]

Me when I see a mauler:

[misty crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-funny-running-run-away-run-away-meme-gif-9651022831454211476

To each his own... 😂

[thin stone]

Me when I see a mauler:

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-fire-machine-gun-mad-gif-5040051

[tiny summit]

Shovel feels nice but definitely more of a get off me stick and only really feels like it has good horde clear with like power stacks

[woeful ibex]

Hints from facebook

[somber axle]

I sleep when I see a Mauler

But I do go absolutely wild when I see a Crusher

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pillow-bite-angry-angry-cat-gif-25541136

[tiny summit]

Gib 2 handed chainaxe fatshark

[oblique totem]

Average walk through London.

[thin stone]

"How dare your nincompoop self walketh down this alleyway?"

[orchid hemlock]

Wait I'm confused, how is the axe the best wave clear.

I thought that it only cleaves thru 2 enemies?

[last parcel]

brutal momentum

and build it to oneshot bruisers

[orchid hemlock]

Oh so it needs a blessing just like power sword 😔

[thin stone]

How is the Tactical Axe?

Or the Devils Claw

[oblique totem]

These alleyways belong to The People.

[hearty panther]

yea brutal momentum is just a dummy blessing

[orchid hemlock]

I only use tac axe on Zealot because it's funny to see myself attacking soo quickly that it just looks like I'm teleporting

[umbral scaffold]

this build isn't working for me

guess i'll try the revolver next

[hearty panther]

i too was surprised by the shields output nowadays and then i recalled that 90% of what's happening is just the one blessing

[orchid hemlock]

What build?

[umbral scaffold]

the damn helbore

takes too long to bring out

and too low of dps

[thin stone]

Oof

I use the Agripinaa MK8

It's based chad gun

[orchid hemlock]

Just use the Infantry lasgun with automod

[thin stone]

I like it more than Columnus because of raw damage and cleave

[misty crypt]

Quick to draw, very highly lethal and with the proper talent you reload on drawing after melee kills which make you sure to have it ready to use anytime for emergency take down

[hearty panther]

the trick to helbore is to never put it away

[orchid hemlock]

Tbh I would only use revolver if I have a good foundation for my melle

[thin stone]

The trick to helbore is not to use it

[orchid hemlock]

The trick to helbore is to replace it with the plasma

[thin stone]

The trick to helbore is to use the IAG instead

[orchid hemlock]

The trick with helbore is to use your knife

[umbral scaffold]

I'll probably use a chainsword with it then

or my power sword

[junior needle]

Tac axes are weird and generally considered to be caxes but worse

[umbral scaffold]

my power sword is solid so i may just use that

I think i'll take my blessing and rebuild it

[junior needle]

The 4 with headtaker/shred is pretty decent in that it has its own niche and isn't just "Worse version of another weapon"

[orchid hemlock]

I use revolver in my infiltrate build

So I always have the knife with it

[umbral scaffold]

Oh no bro

I can't max out my new revolver

cause i've built so many trash weapons

i had like 15 thousand plasteel yesterday

[misty crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/mission-impossible-tom-cruise-breaking-in-break-in-im-in-gif-15687772

[thin stone]

What curious do you want for Veteran?

For a shouty boi build

[misty crypt]

I never go beyond 2k, immediately spend in tests and tries...

[orchid hemlock]

Tbh most weapons in the game don't need perfect perks/blessings

I still use a 545 Collumnus on my Zealot that has suppression 😎

[misty crypt]

545 😱

[orchid hemlock]

When I get a new weapon what I do is roll until I get a 360+, if the main stats are fine I just consecrate to max and let God deside the blessings and perks

I then reroll what I can and go with it

[somber axle]

Helbore is a weapon that requires practice to master

Lots of little behaviors to learn

[orchid hemlock]

You're saying I can't aim? 😡

[somber axle]

Revolver with Hand Cannon and Surgical is easy mode though

[orchid hemlock]

I mean you're right

[somber axle]

Plasma is also easy mode

[orchid hemlock]

But I don't need to aim when I see 12 crushers literally 2 inches from me

😎

[midnight totem]

Real pros use shredder autopistols

[somber axle]

If I'm 2 inches from 12 Crushers I might also be sitting on a couch

Being surrounded by Crushers is a tricky spot to get out of LOL

[orchid hemlock]

Just shout 4HEAD

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[somber axle]

https://gyazo.com/3b24dfe506d548548b5a1f75bb7d50bc

I still laugh at how I took this into Aurics and it did surprisingly good

[orchid hemlock]

Commisar roleplay build???

[thin stone]

Can someone recommend what curio stats are needed for veteran

[orchid hemlock]

Main or sub?

[thin stone]

Huh?

[somber axle]

Laptop gaming for lazy time! I'm not nearly as good playing on a laptop as I am with my desktop

[orchid hemlock]

The main stats or the perk blessings?

[thin stone]

All

[midnight totem]

YEs. Thats exactly what I was thinking of

[somber axle]

Usually I'm more aware and too mobile to be caught out of position like that

[orchid hemlock]

I use 1 stam/2 tough on main

For perks I usually go tough/stamregen/gunner resist

Some people go health because vet without health bonus can get into death range just from 1 grim easily

[misty crypt]

Grimoire resistance is trolling ?

I put that on all my wound trinkets (... Yes I'm leaning)

[somber axle]

If I'm running an automatic weapon with Deadshot (most of the time tbh) I run triple Stam curios each one with +3 Stam for a total +9 Stam and have Stam regen on every single one. I also like taking corruption resistance because it really sucks being on less than 1 wounds when a squad goes for double grimoires and with corruption resistance it barely tickles the first 20% of my second wound bar

If you want something more sane

Do two toughness curios, one stamina

[orchid hemlock]

But I like tough on vet because Iron Will is soo insanely broken as a talent

[somber axle]

Grim resistance is, weirdly, weaker than normal corruption resistance

[thin stone]

How about health curios?

[somber axle]

But like you can have both corruption resistance AND grim resistance on a single curio

[trim hemlock]

Well, no, it just interacts with grimoire-induced corruption differently

[orchid hemlock]

As the main?

Health on Vet is only good to prevent corruption from one shotting you

[trim hemlock]

And only with it, unlike regular corresist

[thin stone]

Hmm

[slow spade]

Stamina + toughness is my go-to

[thin stone]

Then?

[misty crypt]

... That's what I did

[orchid hemlock]

Health as a sub is also very bad value

[somber axle]

Health curios can help you have high enough HP to tank a full sniper shot without going down. You need over 127 HP afaik so you need at minimum 2 HP curios OR you need to have 1 HP curio with 21%, another 5% as a perk on it, and then another 5% HP on a second curio as a perk

[thin stone]

I get one shotted of easily

[misty crypt]

But when I crafted that people were running more often into demon hosts, I was leveling

[slow spade]

Stamina is never a bad thing to have and same with toughness

[agile forge]

I love having no health curios and no corruption resistance on my psyker

[thin stone]

Lol

[agile forge]

And having 2 poxbursters instantly kill me

[orchid hemlock]

The reason why Vet needs Stam though is because they have the lowest base Stam regen in the game

[slow spade]

Grim missions are instant avoid for me

[somber axle]

I always recommend at least 1 Stam curio for any Vet

It's a MASSIVE quality of life increase

Better blocking, better shoving, more push attacks, better sprinting, etc.

[slow spade]

3 stam curios on ogryn for max bully

[somber axle]

You can do more of everything

[orchid hemlock]

Also you have no abilities to defend yourself in melle except for blocking and running

[slow spade]

More dying UwU

[somber axle]

Only if they can catch me

Triple Stam curios forever

[orchid hemlock]

GigaChad shieldgryn just blocking everything

[misty crypt]

And shouting in an angry manner

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/lulu-cat-fast-gif-19144023

[orchid hemlock]

Vet when they have no shout and out of ammo

[bitter turtle]

i mean that kinda applies to every class no

you block and melee and dodge around

i gues sogryn can just derp through either way

[misty crypt]

Pretty sure zealots and ogryns only hits they have no dodge feature

[orchid hemlock]

Ogryn and Zealot have tools that give them toughness or stamina in melle

[bitter turtle]

zealots have a lot

of dodge bonuses

[orchid hemlock]

They also have better Stam management

[bitter turtle]

i dont think you are supposed to eat shit on purpose

[slow spade]

All zealots come with their dodge key unbound in quickplay UwU

[misty crypt]

(I was joking... 😢)

[orchid hemlock]

And mobility

[somber axle]

It is REALLY funny doing a maxed out toughness build though. Triple Toughness curios all with 17% toughness and a perk for 5% toughness. Grab both +25 toughness talent nodes and get the basically mandatory +10 toughness node on the way down too. Iron Will. Close Order Drill. Even without Voice of Command you become a walking tank. I've eaten Crusher overheads and laughed at them

[slow spade]

Indeed, I have 271 toughness on my Weapon Specialiat build

[somber axle]

Gold Toughness be damned

I don't need my toughness to be gold to let a Crusher bounce his weapon off my head

[bitter turtle]

i have no toughness

i also dont run shout

I like being soft

and feminine

I mean what

[slow spade]

Psyker moment

[orchid hemlock]

Me with max toughness and gunner resist curios:

[somber axle]

Then pair with Confirmed Kill and Out for Blood

Become unkillable

LMFAO

[orchid hemlock]

"high intensity gunner gauntlet? What's that?"

[last parcel]

me with triple wounds

[somber axle]

It's fun living on the edge. That's why I play Recon and do triple Stam. Any mistake is lethal. Just play perfectly always or die LOL

[orchid hemlock]

Me with max toughness and rager resist:

[slow spade]

Deadshot value 😎

[orchid hemlock]

"What's the best curio stats?"

Me:

Ortho Docks and Curio Drop Rate

[slow spade]

Me outting on 3x cooldown curios because penances

[orchid hemlock]

If the whole point of the game is to have a gambling addiction, might as well fuel it

[slow spade]

You know you made it big when the Darktide discord posts bass boosted casino music to your roll

[trim steppe]

Ok ordos I understand, I have it on most of my curios. But curio drop rate??????

Some men just want to watch the world burn

[orchid hemlock]

Sell them, cmon be an entrepreneur

[junior needle]

You can sell weapons too

[trim steppe]

They sell for half as much as the weapons do

[orchid hemlock]

Yall don't want better curios to get ortho docks?

[last parcel]

you gotta spend money to make less money

[tall torrent]

selling weapons makes more money, and using curio drop rate isn't rly necessary to finding better curios

[orchid hemlock]

But what if I want my funny little pocket cage?

[last parcel]

then sit in your funny little cage, monkey

my room has pillows on the walls

i think it looks very nice

[gilded wraith]

Swap Perks to maniac and unyielding?

[tall torrent]

Keep carapace

Honestly u can swap both perks

Carapace + elite

[gilded wraith]

Thanks, was leaning towards swapping both, or leaving the unlocks for later.

[last parcel]

groaner damage

[earnest lodge]

Both perks are fine

[junior needle]

rager resist

[somber axle]

Get HP curios, +HP% perk, corruption resistance perk, pox hound resistance perk on all 3

Wait for the squad to die

Wait to be the last one standing

Then let a dog pounce you and make everyone wait 20 minutes for it to finish chewing through your face

[last parcel]

true move

inb4 random tox flamer coming to free you

[somber axle]

Pox Hounds are the only scary thing left on this game to me

I play with very low brightness so things in the dark are barely visible at all and a pox hound leapt at me totally quiet until it was MID-AIR and the sudden loud growl and pox hound in my face actually made me jump LOL

I didn't even see it until it was on me

[last parcel]

we need mic integration to make pox hounds do more damage if you scream

[ocean idol]

Tox bombers also can be nasty

[agile forge]

Jumpscare pox bursters are fun

[somber axle]

Mic integration to make enemies aggro if you gasp or yell

[misty crypt]

Burster waiting for you to go pass his door to open it

[somber axle]

then let me go full tank build and start yelling "FOR THE EMPEROR" in every fight

I still wouldn't voice chat quickplays

[agile forge]

Shouting should suppress enemies

[last parcel]

increase the range of voc/loyal protector

[somber axle]

Voice of Command now only activates if the Player yells irl

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/kazakstan-gif-9926781826238488769

[misty crypt]

Even if it's calling help or sighing loud because of the guy that shot the burster u intended to push ? 😂

[agile forge]

bork

[somber axle]

That could be a funny new talent node for VoC

Make it generate +90% threat on use for 10 seconds

Turn into literal tank mode on Vet

[short wigeon]

ngl that does sound dope

[midnight totem]

As long as it changes the voicelines too

Start insulting the Moebians

[last parcel]

AND I SAY THAT THERE’S NO COCK LIKE HORSE COCK

[steep nexus]

HUH?

[sinful swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[midnight totem]

No. Insulting the enemy, not repelling allies.

[somber axle]

New dialogue lines for using the +threat talent would be REALLY cool but idk what they would even say

[last parcel]

oi eretic, i banged yer mum

[midnight totem]

Professional: Come get a piece of me you fraggers!

Cadian: Cadia Stands while I still draw breathe!

Loose Cannon: Oiii.... I fucked yer mum Wolfer!

[somber axle]

Loose Cannon: "Come try a REAL soldier ya worthless KARKERS!!"

Maybe too long winded LOL

Gotta be more concise hmmm

[last parcel]

“SUCK MY FAT JUICY COCK”

[rocky jacinth]

KAAAAARKEEEEERSSS

nice and to the point

[gilded rock]

I see now why they said the things they did about vet chat

[somber axle]

Hey unrelated but did you see the spoilers for the Venom 2 movie

[gilded rock]

Nope

[midnight totem]

Could probably take out worthless

[gilded rock]

Did they get eminem to say venom a bunch again

[agile forge]

Isn't venom 2 already out

[somber axle]

"TRY A REAL SOLDIER YA KARKERS!!"

[somber axle]

Oh yeah I forgor. I mean the next one

[rocky jacinth]

Professional: Suck ye mum
Loose Cannon: Suck ye dad
Cadian: Suck ye Cadia

[midnight totem]

Ye. That sounds good

[agile forge]

"You're as dumb as a mule, and twice as ugly" is the only thing that comes to my mind for some reason lmao

[somber axle]

Venom is a horse

[last parcel]

YOUR MOTHER WAS A HAMSTER

[somber axle]

"KARKIN TRY ME!"

[gilded rock]

Cadian: cadia falls 🧎‍♂️ 😼

[agile forge]

Oi heretics! Your epidermis is showing!

[midnight totem]

And your father smelt of Slaanishi Warp dust

[somber axle]

For Cutthroat/Cadian: "I'M STILL STANDING, MONGRELS!"

[rocky jacinth]

that sounds like a zealot line

[somber axle]

Is it the word mongrels

[rocky jacinth]

yes

[somber axle]

I feel like I'm overusing the word karker LOL

[thin stone]

Is the survivalist aura worth it anymore?

5 seconds seems too long of a delay

[tame lodge]

Still the best

Unless you really really need the extra damage

[steel lagoon]

I'd rate the movement speed above the 5% damage

[junior needle]

It's been massively reduced in efficacy but still the best

[bitter turtle]

speed is good

survivalist is still dumb though

[agile forge]

It's the best but it no longer feels like griefing to skip it

Like probably still the best aura in the game besides maybe CDR aura

[bitter turtle]

its easily better

still

shit just needs to go really but

even the guns that 'depend" on it feel bad for it existing because it just hamstrings your build on going left on tree

[agile forge]

Tbh I treat auras as travel nodes

Unless I need the stat badly for myself anyway

(Or I'm being a penance rat)

(Friggin loner)

(Although being able to avoid summoning extra specials is pretty good tbh)

[tame lodge]

Hard to quantify speed, unless you're a White Scars

[faint beacon]

Literally used it once

Immediately hated it

Saving that penance for DEAD last

I do not like being Anti-Team

[midnight totem]

It's for being a team of yourself

[bitter turtle]

no time like the present to learn how to solo clutch

[faint beacon]

Yeah but that’s like 70% of loose cannons language

[last parcel]

loner should give +10% damage reduction every time you pick up plasteel/diamantine

[faint beacon]

Also I’ve solo clutched with other builds I’m just not a fan of something that encourages staying away from the team

[agile forge]

I don't deliberately go away from the team

but it lets me close in on ranged elites and specials without worrying about extra special spawns on me

It's about punishment avoidance rather than an actual bonus I guess

but yeah a lot of people play it and abuse it to just act like their team doesn't exist

[faint beacon]

I respect the slim amount of Loner Zealots that rush back to the team the moment a horde spawns or the specials start swarming the team

I’ve ran into far too many that just speedrun

Usually resulting in never seeing them till they get incapped by a disabler or downed

[junior needle]

I usually handle the backline and elites on my stelff zealot

And also comb the map for resources

Only rarely do I get disabled due to some bullshit like the net visibly missing me but still hitting

[agile forge]

I am determined to be One Of The Good Ones with it

[faint beacon]

Dog pouncing away from you but it still lands on you anyways

[agile forge]

is why I take the flamer too

[faint beacon]

I damn near alt F4d when that happened to me

[junior needle]

Revolver is better for stelf if you know the tricks

One of which is that it's free reload time

[agile forge]

free priming time for my flamer too

[junior needle]

Two is that you can double up on your empowered shots if you shoot right as you stealth

[agile forge]

I'm doing the revolver's job with my throwing knives anyway

[junior needle]

Flamer just doesn't accomplish much without fotf

Apart from chaffe clearing

But you're giving up your ability to deal with other things to do that

[agile forge]

Uncanny helps it actually

it's slower than the FotF way but it can still work

[junior needle]

True, but it's more awkward

Due to your stacks dropping while you hose things

You can get it back up after but

[tall torrent]

Survivalist and loner should just be deleted

[last parcel]

i like big butts

[tall torrent]

I’d rather they replace loner with smth like sprint efficiency for whole team

[junior needle]

Yuck

[hearty panther]

i dont know why loner is what it is

like what was going on on right side that they were like

[bitter turtle]

its not even really a good aura even if you are playing that style

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[hearty panther]

nah this needs to be a non-aura

[junior needle]

Loner should be an option but shouldn't be in an aura slot

[hearty panther]

and the effect should be dogshit

what power were they afraid of

was a 20% backstab aura too much?

[bitter turtle]

it was to balance out throwing knives

[hearty panther]

its just so funny

[bitter turtle]

obv

:^)

[tall torrent]

It should just be straight up removed

[faint beacon]

Is there even a weak spot aura

[agile forge]

I think it's better than it looks though

[tall torrent]

No, but it would be bad

[agile forge]

it does stop extra specials from spawning

[tall torrent]

Loner?

[agile forge]

yeah

[tall torrent]

Wdym stop extra specials from spawning

[last parcel]

out if coherency

[tall torrent]

Because out-of-coherency triggers extra specialist spawns in the first place

[agile forge]

idk I just heard that it doesn't

it's the only part of the aura that I like

because you aren't technically out of coherency or something?

if it's just a placebo then fuck it lmao

I'll go back to TDR aura once I've got my penance

[tall torrent]

If loner did smth like “count yourself as 2 coherency for everybody else” maybe it wouldn’t be such a horrendous option

[last parcel]

thank you predictive text

[tall torrent]

So that if ur in coherency with someone else, both of u get 3 coherency effect for a bit of toughness regen

It would still be bad

[junior needle]

It would go against the intended design of allowing you to have functional toughness regen while going behind enemy lines

It it's going to be selfish it should do a bit more though

[faint beacon]

Extra damage out of coherency?

That’s literally the first thing that came to mind but I have no clue

[junior needle]

Maybe not something to encourage you not to be in coherency, but keep with the idea of making it less punishing to be out of it

[tall torrent]

It’s still bad because you could run triple +30% toughness regen with fortitude in fellowship and it still doesn’t do enough because zealot relies on crit TDR more than pure toughness regen

[last parcel]

+20% damage and damage taken if nobody in the strike team is on your friends list

[agile forge]

I'd like it if it allowed you to stay in coherency for being within LoS

[faint beacon]

Maybe less enemy agro if that’s even a thing

[agile forge]

and also grant coherency to your team in that situation

[junior needle]

Hot redesign, you always count as being in coherency for your living teammates

[tall torrent]

Remove loner, replace with sprint efficiency aura

[faint beacon]

Honestly

I kinda fuck with that

[junior needle]

Something I'd want even less

[faint beacon]

Should count downs as “not alive” punishing you if your team goes down

[junior needle]

Impressive

[tall torrent]

Sprint efficiency is genuinely not bad

[junior needle]

I'd rather have something more interesting

[tall torrent]

+15% ordo dockets to everyone

[last parcel]

whipping your teammates

[faint beacon]

I’ll do you one better

15% Experience earned

I know I know

[last parcel]

+20% chance for curio drop

[faint beacon]

I’m amazing at coming up with such fantastic ideas

[tall torrent]

At least dockets are useful

[junior needle]

unironically more attractive to me than sprint efficiency

[tame lodge]

Aura to Reduce Enemy Ranged Damage

[tall torrent]

If loner had to be smth about out-of-coherency play

Probably

-?% less threat for out-of-coherency members

[last parcel]

aura to stroke my shit i got lotion on lacerate flesh tearer im a freak fr fr

[junior needle]

Who up clutchin they pearls?

[tame lodge]

Uncanny Stroke 💀

[junior needle]

An amount of toughness recovery per second like that other zealot talent would be nice too

Could be something like "If you're in coherency it's shared among your teammates, if you're out it's focused on you"

[muted knot]

No time gotta ponder my orb

[junior needle]

Pearls are orbs

Ponder them

[last parcel]

me getting my ass thunder hammered as the priest yells FOR HIM
ON TERRAAAAAAA

[midnight totem]

Alright backup

Tone it down. It ain't even after 8 pm est yet

I haven't had any drinks in me yet

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-dance-warhammer40k-space-marine-dance-imperium-of-man-gif-16980149

[bitter turtle]

9is this like

acctually a documented thing

ive seen it said a lot

but ive never seen proof if there is

[serene bough]

the emoji is a cog

thats boring

[orchid hemlock]

Cadia Vet: "OOOOH DON'T STOP BIG MAN!!!!" 😩

[last parcel]

faith waits for no man

[serene bough]

damn nice source

[midnight totem]

I knew a guy, he had a girlfriend named Faith

She indeed, did not wait for him

[serene bough]

F

[hidden torrent]

Have the teamates gotten better in Auric yet

Because I might go test the waters

[last parcel]

they got worse

[fluid solstice]

I cannot play rn and I’m having withdrawals

[hidden torrent]

Is that because you're playing.

[last parcel]

yes

[hidden torrent]

I feel like Hidden Robo Cats isn't darktide

[last parcel]

it's the new character

[odd oak]

I thought about this a while back. Maybe adjust it so as long as your allies have 1 other person in coherency, you count towards their coherency no matter how far away from them you are. That way the loner player can act as a roamer without hurting the main group's coherency.

[junior needle]

Sounds good to me

Similar to my suggestion

[faint beacon]

That also works though I really dig the idea of if a teammate goes down your loner coherency actively gets punished

Makes you kinda have to play more as a scout when things are less tense but when it gets more severe you retreat to your team

[junior needle]

That's how you're supposed to play it anyway

You go out and handle things that are out of the way

And then revive people when they go down

[tall torrent]

It’s been absolutely horrendous past few days

[hidden torrent]

SOUNDS FUN

[slow spade]

I play normal damnation now

At least I don't have to carry or deal with instant quitters

[tall torrent]

Normal is equally horrendous

[slow spade]

Its bad but not like obnoxiously bad

[tall torrent]

Had like 4 wipes in a row because none of the QP players could kill anything within a reasonable amount of time

[junior needle]

Me who's not playing until there's actual new content, avoiding all of these problems

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-face-giga-chad-chad-gif-940721850618971211

[slow spade]

My brother is a psyker main and he's been using the same purg + deimos combo since the Deimos released

[tame lodge]

[slow spade]

The content drought for Psyker is real

[tall torrent]

No new force staff in next update

[slow spade]

Lol ikr

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/isopod-issue-isopod-issue-gif-27322417

[somber axle]

Yeah Auric Damnation quickplay has gotten hilarious

[slow spade]

He's just given up on psyker getting anything

[tall torrent]

Well it’s kinda 2-sided

New Psyker-exclusives aren’t in sight

And none of the new weapons added are rly worth using on psyker because Psyker-exclusives are just hilariously overtuned

[somber axle]

Had two Ogryns, one with A.S.S. title, both charge out of an elevator into poxwalkers with a massive number of Reapers/Gunners coming down the bridge toward us. The two Ogryns immediately go down. One to a net. The other to a dog. The other Vet and I couldn't even reach them because we were fighting ragers, flamers and trying to stop the weird horde of gunners from marching down the bridge. Spoiler: me and the other Vet made a last stand in the elevator together but lasted a surprisingly long time. The two Ogryns died so quick that I was shocked one of them even had the A.S.S. title until I remembered people can just disconnect before death to keep getting progress

We were both Helbore Vets. I do not remember his name but it was an honour to go down swinging with him

[tall torrent]

QP player quality has gone down so much

QP randoms also have the weirdest weapons & builds ever

[somber axle]

Penance update brought back a lot of returning players and people who haven't played in months but used do do high difficulty content who are too prideful to put on the training wheels of practicing in Heresy/Standard Damnation before jumping into Aurics

[somber axle]

FALTER INFERNUS

ON A FUCKING KANTRAEL XII

I laugh

[tall torrent]

What’s IFST

[last parcel]

infested damage

[tall torrent]

Yea no, I pretty much just dodge if I see randoms using too cursed weapons now

Not gonna bother with 4 wipes in a row

[somber axle]

That has to be a meme build. They're probably stacking every bit of reload speed from the talent tree too just to watch their character go light speed through the reload animation for no reason LOL

[tall torrent]

If I see veteran with recon + DC + krak I’m just gonna dodge

[last parcel]

new loadout idea gained

[junior needle]

Here's something someone else found

Took the book because he's a team player

[faint beacon]

Look I’ve just found out QP at 2AM EST

Is the time you don’t play

[somber axle]

If they're using Kraks they're not one of my Reclowns

[faint beacon]

Look I managed to clutch with that recon build I threw together once

Hell consistently outdamage people at times

It just doesn’t make sense ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BAD

[tame lodge]

Time to farm content

[somber axle]

I'm at work for another hour and I'm tempted to join a game with you two just to see how crazy you two play even though generally I have a rule of not grouping up with people I don't know

Let me finish work and I'll consider it in the mean time! If you two are still going in an hour I may join

[last parcel]

gropu with them and then you'll know them

[somber axle]

Yeah but then they would know me and I don't like being known LOL

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-the-amazing-digital-circus-tadc-glitch-productions-murder-drones-gif-16600160726694358028

[somber axle]

Maybe another time

[faint beacon]

Should use my Mk6 knife build when I get home…

[somber axle]

The Cisco Live convention is kicking my ass

So busy

[faint beacon]

ANOTHER 4 HOURS!

[somber axle]

The digital circus will never truly release me

[agile forge]

How many episodes are there?

[somber axle]

2 so far

[agile forge]

Slow releases?

I feel like if I start now I'm gonna get sad waiting lol

Like another deltarune

[somber axle]

Afaik they only have one season planned for it but I'm not sure what the total number of episodes will be

[wanton dawn]

Casual 15 min maelstrom rush

Azreal makes me run

[somber axle]

Quick in and out 15 minute adventure

[somber axle]

6 months between the first episode release and the 2nd LOL

[wanton dawn]

Had to get that objective of 1 view

[somber axle]

Though if the release schedule is anything like their other show Murder Drones the following episodes should release sooner after the second compared to the first

[static rune]

4 iirc

at least thaat's how many they have written currently

[somber axle]

I'm not sure about that. Apparently there is meant to be an episode with each of the characters as a major focus

Zooble has a big episode for her coming up and so far she has been a background character

[static rune]

I just know they had 4 already written after 2 dropped because of all the Jax stuff lmao

people were saying they rewrote Jax but Goose said that 2, 3, and 4 were written before the Pilot

so he's always been an undeniably evil bastard lmao

can't wait for Kinger's episode

[hearty panther]

what are all these words

get off my lawwwwn

[terse idol]

The power of indie dev studio

😌

Or well

animation studio

6 months ain't thaat bad

[somber axle]

I don't mind waiting 6 months tbh

if you think about it we wait years between movie sequels

we wait years between game releases (unless it's CoD and then it's just yearly release but I don't touch CoD, FIFA, Forza, etc.)

the good stuff is worth waiting for

and Digital Circus isn't even that long of a wait compared to others

[hidden torrent]

I am an impatient man child

[somber axle]

just do other things while you wait

[last parcel]

yeah, like sending death threats to the creator

[hidden torrent]

I will not wait

[somber axle]

I'm waiting for FF14 Dawntrail to release next month

early access is even SOONER

I have other games to play in the mean time

[hidden torrent]

Never played FF

[somber axle]

it's a very fun game but I 100% understand if the aesthetics/storytelling are not someone's vibe

I personally love it and think it's one of the best stories of a video game I've ever played

very fun gameplay

[hidden torrent]

Yeah not sure if I'm down with the cat girls

Had enough of that in Highschool

[somber axle]

I am the cat girls

[hidden torrent]

This is my suprised face

[somber axle]

Felinids are both canon to the 40k universe and also an approved abhuman race

similar to Ratlings, Ogryns, etc.

they're seen as abhuman and not mutants

unlike that one shark race that got their entire race obliterated for fucking around and finding out

[hidden torrent]

I would shoot then with a gun

[somber axle]

there's no canon art of how a felinid looks either

so it could literally just be FF14 Miqo'te of human but cat ears/tail or it could be full on Skyrim Khajiit and we don't know

[hidden torrent]

The sexualization of cat girls always makes me uncomfortable and I hate it

Exterminatus

[somber axle]

you're playing a game that has one of the only three times Felinids have EVER been mentioned for the 40k universe

[somber axle]

just don't sexualize cats

easy

[rotund shard]

Sexualization of humans with animal features/anthropomorphised animals is generally weird to me

[hidden torrent]

Yeah I don't tell that to half the world

[somber axle]

just don't be sexual at all

asexual time

[rotund shard]

Best option

[hidden torrent]

That's not possible for me

I'm far too skibidi

[somber axle]

I am sexually attracted to lasguns that have an RPM of 1400 when mega-juiced into silliness

[wild vortex]

OMFG Melk why couldn't you give this on Vet instead of Shouty

[charred dome]

leveling vet rn and please just give me voc already

can't stand volley fire

[hidden torrent]

I am a lasgun with 1500 rpm

[midnight totem]

thats 100 too high

[somber axle]

we're entering speed levels I'm not sure are even possible for mortal hands to wield

[midnight totem]

you know, it makes me think though, the enemy should have heavy weapon emplacements

with multi-lasers

[somber axle]

what if

enemy that carries an emplacement with them

takes 1-2 seconds to set up

and then begins unleashing large explosive shots

if the whole squad is out of LoS they try to pack back up and reposition

we don't really have an explosive type ranged enemy

bombers throw fire/clouds

[midnight totem]

two man crew, if one of them dies, it reverts to an ordinary shooter

[hidden torrent]

What if I explosively shit myself mid level

[dim steeple]

Is this any good?

[somber axle]

Finesse is kinda low but you've got Executor IV so that's a big plus

[hidden torrent]

No

[somber axle]

change Smackdown to Uncanny Strike

though I'd recommend poking numbers cat on what to change on perks

[midnight totem]

its a lil scuffed, but its useable till you get something better

[late hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-gif-19725216

[somber axle]

I'd change melee weak spot to Carapace or Elite

[dim steeple]

is it worth just yoinking executor and finding another one?

[somber axle]

only if you have a better knife

[dim steeple]

I dont lol

[somber axle]

if you don't have a better knife just keep that one until you get a better one

Executor is VERY good

Executor + Uncanny is already a very strong knife

and I think even with the low-ish Finesse it should perform well

[dim steeple]

I'll keep looking for uncanny and go from there

Thanks for the help <3

[somber axle]

Welcomes!

[somber axle]

MORTAR TEAM

give us Heretic Ratling Mortar teams

Warcraft 3 style

https://tenor.com/view/mortar-team-warcraft3-avatar-gif-15200999

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/techies-gif-18906225

wait, those are poxbursters basically

[dim steeple]

You guys know any good Infiltrate build? tryna make a build for each ability and started with infiltrate

[late hatch]

Rashad and plasma

[midnight totem]

I have three different infiltrate builds

well.. really just two

in game atm though

[plush hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[terse idol]

Revolver

Dclaw

I would keep away from rashad unless you actually get a good one

Revolver makes it so the next guranteed crit hits extra hard

Dclaw is just a decent weapon

Compliments the revolver

[wild vortex]

But a GOOD Rashad is just...

[terse idol]

Yeah

But a bad rashad is

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[wild vortex]

Needs more pen

I think

[hollow ibex]

10/10 to be bricked by hardon

[dim steeple]

lets see

got 10% damage to elites

This is what I got @hollow ibex

[tiny summit]

The omnissiah trolls

[dim steeple]

its bad isnt it

[tiny summit]

Like nothing you want

[dim steeple]

damnnit hadron

any blessing worth keeping?

[tiny summit]

Personal choice. None meta lmao

[dim steeple]

grah

I take it thunderous tier 4 isnt good at all?

[tame lodge]

Not enough attack speed

[tiny summit]

Only relevant against maulers/crushers and even then very unoptimal

[dim steeple]

alright ill shard it then

[tiny summit]

Like the Rashad wants to cleave heads and most heads are flak and unarmored

[dim steeple]

Gotcha

I recently switched to vet after ogryn and need tips lol on good blessings

What about this?

[tiny summit]

Rashad is a godroll kind of weapon to grind for. Finesse affects weakspots and crits. So finesse as a dump is unoptimal. Haven't done the numbers so I dunno the thresholds

[dim steeple]

Would you not want to go for crits on an axe?

[charred dome]

Finesse is also atk speed

[tiny summit]

Weakspot hits. The point of building a Rashad is to cleave heads. That too.

[charred dome]

I'd do mobility dump lol

[dim steeple]

I got this too

[charred dome]

Yeah it's also weakspot hits

[tiny summit]

[charred dome]

Trust me just keep going, hadron bricked several mk5 shovels I had on ogryn I was trying to set up to oneshot crushers with

[tiny summit]

Like I said I haven't done the numbers so I dunno the thresholds but Rashad likes it's head cleaving

[dim steeple]

I feel that pain. I managed to get a spicy Mk5 after lots of grinding

[dim steeple]

I appreciate the help mate

[charred dome]

Fuck you hadron you piece of shit

Levelling vet made me realize why people get pissy with ogryns getting in the way

[dim steeple]

I wanted to fuck around and got this

[charred dome]

Fucking oof of course

The one with bad modifiers is the one you get good shit on

[dim steeple]

I'll grab brutal momentum and thats it

i dont have any good melee weapons on vet 💀

[charred dome]

I'm levelling mine rn

my first thing to bitch about is volley fire doesn't make you instantly equip helbore for some reason?

[dim steeple]

Fr?

Thats weird ash

[charred dome]

"instantly equip ranged weapon" my ass

I spend half the duration of the ability just preparing it if it wasn't out already lmfao

[dim steeple]

Thats odd

maybe report it as a bug?

[charred dome]

second thing to bitch about is I apologize for all my hours as ogryn getting in people's way lmfao

[terse idol]

You also want high first target

[tall torrent]

First target is too low

[charred dome]

basically you want high everything but if you have to dump one, it's gonna be mobility

[umbral parrot]

No~

[dim steeple]

Yeah i ditched it

[charred dome]

Had a match with 2 ogryns and I was like oh god this is what it feels like to be a tiny person lmao

[umbral parrot]

They should apologize to you for shooting at ya

[tall torrent]

If u swap to it then activate ability, it won’t do the instant equip

[charred dome]

I scrapped it already, I need to get used to laspistol

friend was showing me some stupid shit involving crit laspistol and rashaad

not a fan of the 5 hour equip time

fucking ogryn equips weapons faster dude

[tall torrent]

Rashad is one of the hardest weapons to roll for in the game

I don’t recommend it for beginners

[charred dome]

I can farm the mats on my ogryn ggez

[tall torrent]

You need smth like 8M+ dockets and piles of plasteel to make a good one

[charred dome]

so far none of the other melee weapons interest me

[dim steeple]

as an ogryn main, yes

[tall torrent]

Rashad is just very strict in terms of rolls

[tiny summit]

Simply be lucky like first power sword PC4/Sunder

[tall torrent]

You have to have:
High first target
High penetration
High finesse
High dmg
Mobility 51% or higher

Unarmored perk
Flak/carapace/elite perk
Brutal momentum
Headtaker

[charred dome]

I don't mind dumping mobility lmao

[tall torrent]

Everything that doesn’t fit this criteria is not good enough

[charred dome]

My laspistol is gonna have all the stam on it anyways

Trust me I'm used to hadron bricking my shit on ogryn lol

[tall torrent]

Ogryn weapons are way easier to roll than Rashad

Significantly smaller blessing pool

Not as picky about intricate breakpoints

[charred dome]

Either way I'm farming this shit on ogryn lol

[tall torrent]

Rashad quite literally does not function properly unless u have unarmored + BM + headtaker with optimal stat distribution

Because it has almost no cleave

[umbral parrot]

Sounds lame

[tall torrent]

You either meet the 1 tap weakspot breakpoint and kill 4 per swing, or don’t and take 4x (prob more) time to kill bruisers

[charred dome]

I want to meme with axe so oh well

First things first I need to hit level 30 with this asshole

Just give me voice of command already volley fire sucks ffs

[tall torrent]

They should reduce teammates’ hitmass or increase all ranged weapons’ cleave to 2.1 or higher

[umbral parrot]

I would love a no team8 solo mode

Hate that we need to mod it

[tall torrent]

Just reducing teammates’ hitmass to <1.5 would be good

Most guns only have 1.5 cleave

Teammates currently have 2.0 mass

[umbral parrot]

Huh

[tall torrent]

Yea

If ur gun doesn’t have >2.0 cleave, u cannot shoot through teammates and hit what’s in front of them

[umbral parrot]

Regardless, why shoot if you got an Ogryn? Melee is funner anyways

[tall torrent]

Ranged vet is the only class that consistently gets punished by teammates’ positions

[tall torrent]

Because 9/10 times the one Ogryn who tries to frontline everything is also bad at killing specialists and will usually get trapped or surrounded by flamers/bombers without a quick way to reliably kill them

[charred dome]

which is why I don't want to bother playing ranged vet and I need my voice of command kek

[umbral parrot]

Too bad those bad Ogryns are not me

[charred dome]

ogryn gets in front and now you can't shoot the gunners/special in front of them which is fine if they're taking care of it, but that's not always the case

[umbral parrot]

Kick back em~

Or gauntlet. Good anti elite

[charred dome]

I'm talking about from the guy in the backs perspective

[tall torrent]

If every quick play ogryn learnt target priority, them having disastrous positioning would be less of a problem

But that’s just not the case

[umbral parrot]

Yea, but then again, need to rely on yourself

That's why I'm the second strongest Ogryn around

[charred dome]

kinda hard to rely on myself when there's an ogryn blocking everything lmao

sometimes it's fine, and sometimes they just immediately get disabled or lit the fuck up

[frank ocean]

I lowkey wish Ogryn had a Talent that was like "Dun worry bout me!" that let you shoot through them with any weapon instead of a handful that pierce

Also, Marksman Focus Penance done, time to never use this keystone ever again

[trim steppe]

Buy that so you have Deathspitter T4

[umbral parrot]

Join in the fun boss! Melee is funner than shooting~!

[charred dome]

[austere pine]

is milk fucking high?

tf is this

[frank ocean]

lmao

"Purple is the color of royalty, chap!"

[dim steeple]

I managed to get this

[last parcel]

fuck dodging
cut the nets in half

[dim steeple]

💀

[hidden torrent]

No

[dim steeple]

i keep getting tier 3 All or Nothing

[slow spade]

Power sword can't cut nets but it can cleave through refractor shields

[gilded rock]

Another reason to love the recon, I shoot through my big back teammates all the time 💪

[frank ocean]

Best of luck to everyone with Melk

[tall torrent]

Only Mk7a can

[gilded rock]

Best recon imo but haven't tried the other good one

[tame lodge]

You can listen to big man

[midnight totem]

-stretches-

alrighty, dinner done, time to find a game

[late hatch]

All or nothing is a good blessing. Use your push attacks and enjoy the free power

Sprint with axe out, you have low stam, easy access to power, throw a nade and it hits with that bonus power

[raw steppe]

Being low stam is a death sentence

[midnight totem]

auric vanguard get, also done with 50 throneside games, huzzah

[torn moat]

What is 'optimal stat distribution' for Rashad?

[midnight totem]

high damage, high penetration, high first target, high finesse

[tall torrent]

High first target
High penetration
High finesse
High dmg
Mobility 51% or higher

Basically u want to be able to 1 hit kill both bruisers with max headtaker stacks

[torn moat]

What's the value for high? Like 75+?

[tall torrent]

There’re a bunch other breakpoints that rely on 2nd perk / additional talent investments

[tall torrent]

As high as possible, especially for first target and penetration

Azreal’s recommendation is 76%+ for both first target and penetration I think

[torn moat]

Hmm I have 75 for dmg and 76 for First target.

[hidden torrent]

Preparing Omicron Mortis intercession tbh

[bitter turtle]

just remember

on almost every weapon with it

first target is the single most influential stat on its dmg

really dont want it low

dont think i need to post my rashad with 79 first target that misses bp by exactly 1 dmg

[midnight totem]

sounds like a build that needs fireteam!

coincidentally, I found out that fireteam lets one of my builds crit headshot scab ragers with a power sword, like what are these breakpoint shenanigans

[plush jetty]

which of these blessings I should extract ?

[serene bough]

skullcrusher i guess, neither are really good

[iron marten]

that is actually fbm

[trim steppe]

skullcrusher

[tall torrent]

Skullcrusher

[atomic zephyr]

i stealthed into ANOTHER crusher overhead

its so over

[midnight totem]

hate it when that happens

usually when they're overheading an ally and they dodge into you

[atomic zephyr]

on the bright side, completed the infiltrator penance

stealth sniper goes hard af

still not sure how i feel about the mk6 knife though

[somber axle]

Stealth Sniper is very fun

[atomic zephyr]

yeah ive decided i like the moveset on the mk3 knife better

feels much more controllable and precise

also actually kills crushers if i hit them in the back

[somber axle]

Weird question but like I want to swap off of Loose Cannon

I love the voice but I'm looking to see how the others sound

What does everyone think sounds better? Cutthroat or Professional?

I keep trying to look them up but it seems like every single video is about a guy's Cutthroat/Professional so I can't hear the VA my character would get

[serene bough]

personally between the two id do professional

cutthroat borders on whiney because his stupid planet is now space dust

[somber axle]

I finally found a vid on fem Professional and does she have a Birmingham accent or something

LOL

I don't think I've heard this voice much since like almost every Vet is (correctly) choosing Loose Cannon

[sinful swallow]

NOT ONE STEP BACK

[radiant chasm]

My gf is the only fempro I’ve regularly heard in game

It’s not even a bad voice it’s just so straight laced and lacks any of the occasional looseness of malepro

I play fem cutthroat for my vet, she sounds extremely ready to kill anything

[somber axle]

I'm tempted to go Cutthroat since I still want a voice with emotion

After listening to the Profession voice it's kinda cute that she teases the Zealot (Judge voice) about him crushing on her LOL

[atomic zephyr]

my fucking stealth stopped working

like i was spamming F with two charges and it wouldnt do anything

[somber axle]

That's very weird

I've never heard of a bug like that

[atomic zephyr]

it happened right as a horde showed up

had to die to reset it and force it to work

[somber axle]

Very strange

Also decided on Professional

Giving it a test run but might end up swapping to Cutthroat eventually

changed my Vet's name too

feeling EXTRA sneaky now

[atomic zephyr]

i swapped from fem professional to cutthroat

honestly it just feels like a straight upgrade

cutthroat is edgy professional but in a good way

[trim steppe]

New and improved mission rewards are ✨

This was auric damnation qp

[atomic zephyr]

thats just what u get with shooting the skulls right?

[trim steppe]

yeah I think we got all 4