veteran-class

[clear lantern]

but the icons state he can't even salvage them

sucks that your potential 540 rating has lopsided modifiers. as an Ia it can definitely hit accurately.

[untold pagoda]

so is haymaker perk good for knife veteran?

since meleeing is bit weaker than zealot perhaps it may compensate it?

just got a haymaker 4 from melk

[midnight totem]

Who says we're weaker? >(

[untold pagoda]

we are paper man wth

try to solo a zerker horde and we flopped around like fish

[midnight totem]

Hay maker is generally considered mid, but it's hilarious when it works and it works best on the mk6 knife

[untold pagoda]

yea i planned on getting it on my mk6 knife

if hadron didnt brick it

i saw zealot just insta kill 4 zerker with 1 swipe and that was insane

so i thought about getting on my knife

[midnight totem]

The push stable is a heavy too

[untold pagoda]

wait the push attack counted as heavy too?

[midnight totem]

At max haymaker, 20 percent chance to instakill on a heavy swing is very high

Yes

[untold pagoda]

wot

the fuck

fatshark

considering how easy it is to spam the push attack

[midnight totem]

Combat knives, dealing more damage then chain axes

[untold pagoda]

this is incredible

[late hatch]

Vet has insane access to toughness regen and Iron Will, and a great selection of weapons.

Vet can go melee just fine

[untold pagoda]

strangely i dont feel like it tbh

and ive been playing vet since ever the game come out

ive been starting to play zealot recently tbh

and zealot feel much much tankier

[late hatch]

Vet with rashad and plasma https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162275718563110933/1245658036140376155/image.png?ex=665ed2f3&is=665d8173&hm=514a5c68d8b2c3679a607677821fd9374cb7ca0dfc1fa3def2fbb96ed44ff49b&

[untold pagoda]

tbh that look like average of my zealot game

ive been hitting 500k dmg in all of it with zealot

but i once saw

an ogryn

idk how he did it

hit 875k dmg in 1 round

like wtf is he cheating

ogryn need a nerf

real

[late hatch]

Vet you need to manage your stam a bit better than zealot, and you usually have a lower dodge count, so it def is a bit more spammy as a zealot

[untold pagoda]

yea that probably why

and the skill is just really spammable

[late hatch]

Ogryn is really strong, but has some really big drawbacks you have to play around

[untold pagoda]

yea but hitting 875k is insane

ive seen nothing close to that

[late hatch]

Ive seen scores over 1m

[untold pagoda]

holy shit

was it the ripper gun that was broken?

[late hatch]

Do you play ausric HIST?

[untold pagoda]

yea that is my go to every game

i just dont play on damnation anymore

[late hatch]

achlys stubber and kickback are best for ogryn atm i think

[untold pagoda]

i see

[late hatch]

then shield, shovel, or maybe a club

[untold pagoda]

but that particular ogryn isaw was using a ripper gun

and he use it like entire game

also hoarding ammo

[late hatch]

ripper is good too, can opener is OP

[untold pagoda]

yea so i heard but was it that op

like for real?

man i need to start playing ogryn

[late hatch]

can opener and flechette on a good ripper with glugger is insane

[untold pagoda]

i see

that prolly why lmao

he was rocking glugger build too

so i guess

[late hatch]

All of the classes are pretty well balanced and fun. Glugger loses a lot of powerful nodes by going right side, and if they take top right they lose the top left melee power making them even weaker again

And top right synergises really well with glugger, dep what weapon it can be a huge dps diff

[untold pagoda]

yea like signifcantly too around at least that is my limited ogryn experience say

yea i got to try out the stubber with burn round

and holy lord

that thing is broken

and i havent max out ogryn yet

i was like at level 25 still

[late hatch]

yeah achlys or a ripper with flechette which gives bleed on crits, so then you make em bleed and burn

can opener requires melee special action so it can be traded out

[untold pagoda]

oh lmao both effect gonna be insane

[untold pagoda]

wdym?

was it some activation on special attack?

kinda thing

[late hatch]

you stab with the bayonet and apply brittleness on target

[untold pagoda]

?

ohhh

that uhm mid

[late hatch]

like 8 stacks on t4 blessing

[untold pagoda]

i thought it did so on crit or something

wow yea i can see why

[late hatch]

its super good against armour, you stab a crusher in the head twice and he is almost dead and bleeding if you have the bleed perk, but you cant take if glugger

[untold pagoda]

i see

[late hatch]

But it will make your ranged weapon do more damage as you have shredded their armour

[crude fiber]

It's 16 stacks of 5% brittleness at t4. 80%

[minor jewel]

hey chat what is the consensus on vets auras

[midnight totem]

Survivalist good, close and kill decent, fireteam niche (unless you're me)

[minor jewel]

been hearing in some places on a fire team nerf

[midnight totem]

Like, it was nerfed or there's an upcoming nerf?

[minor jewel]

that it should be

because it removes ammo management if you have a vet running it because you have a constant drip feed of ammo

[midnight totem]

Fireteam gives damage

Survivalist gives ammo

You got them mixed up

And it's very unlikely

Though if it were removed, I wouldn't mind

[tame lodge]

They should separate elites from specials and give different ammo % on kill, considering the amount of elites on the game

Although specials could just spawn infinitely so yeah, not the best idea so far

[frank ether]

just delete survivalist so this debate can end

[midnight totem]

Or give every class a lil bit of extra ammo regen ability

[frank ether]

just get it out of veteran

no more ''why didn't you pick survivalist'' from brain damaged ogryn player

no more ''you ruined darktide'' from deranged zealot main conveniently ignoring the psyker spamming staff AoE / shards the entire game

[minor jewel]

shards arent stupid op anymore

yey

[hearty panther]

veterans review bombed the game over the nerf lol

imagine if they had nerfed VoC at the same time

mass suicides

[minor jewel]

remember in open beta when vet was op?

[hearty panther]

vet has never stopped being OP

people just arent creative

[midnight totem]

I've said, this is my proposal. Vets keep survivalist as it is now. Zealots have a node that grants extra ammo on picking up a tin or stash. Ogryns just pull out an extra tin every two minutes or so like vets can regen grenades. Psykers have a node that gives ammo efficiency (chance to not use a bullet when shooting)

[minor jewel]

Id say ogryn takes the spot for being op now

because of point blank barrage and the fire thing it does

[hearty panther]

im willing to be corrected but i do not believe anyone had solo run with ogryn successfully

[frank ether]

yeah game with few thousdand active players left let alone fanatic vet mains gets ''review bombed'' by vet mains

[hearty panther]

i mean they did dude, lmao

[frank ether]

Last time yall were yapping about this

I sifted through pages and pages of reviews

[hearty panther]

the day the patch dropped suddenly there was 100 fresh negative reviews all citing survivalist

[frank ether]

found like less vet cryposts than I have fingers

[hearty panther]

or week rather

[frank ether]

crushing majority of negative reviews were ''why update late'', ''why game run so bad'' or ''I'm disappointed in fatshark'' etc etc

but sure

[minor jewel]

honestly I wonder if survivalist made you share some % of ammo picked up in coherency it would be a reasonable nerf

[frank ether]

whatever you want to blame the game state on

[hearty panther]

idk why youre trying to pretend Vets arent massive babies

[frank ether]

which class isnt at this point

[minor jewel]

ogryn

[hearty panther]

its been an unmistakable trend since launch

[frank ether]

are you to tell me the zealot spamming rashad m1 all game isn't a baby?

[midnight totem]

Cowards eschewing the true spirit of 40k

[frank ether]

or the psyker sitting in a bubble spamming smite because they saw 3 shotgunners?

[hearty panther]

is this some lame attempt at deflection

[frank ether]

all 4 classes have babymode but by all means blame the games failures on ''baby vet mains'' holding fatshark by the balls

[hearty panther]

oh it is

[minor jewel]

I have a story about htis, before patch 13 and I said I used some other perk that wasnt meta because it could fucking with enemy ai and I got yelled at here

yeah he was

no waystones

[iron marten]

oh yeah, the +100 gold toughness was lol

and then the cooldown reduction from 45 to 30s with the +100 gold toughness

[frank ether]

cd reduction was enough

on vet by design you want to split your points around to make a sensible build

[minor jewel]

honestly if fire team would increase damage by like 7 or 8% it might hit some important breakpoints

[frank ether]

voc being on middle with only one node required

Its not just the best ult its also the most efficient path

[minor jewel]

and also close and kill giving stamina regen buffs

[frank ether]

And then you give its counterparts 4 FUCKING NODES and go suprised pikachu face when VoC ends up most notable

[minor jewel]

like you know how psyker has a really short stamina regen delay? close and kill should do that I think

[frank ether]

in a way they made improvements to left/right paths

but the ults remain the issue, some of the nodes that should be baseline aren't

[junior needle]

5% damage only helps your team if it actually gives you breakpoints

Which is unlikely that randos on your team are building around it for that

5% is a small margin, but agreed on bosses

[sinful swallow]

You'd get more damage with the trickle bullets you Regen on survival

Lol

[frank ether]

%5 is small but its on the efficient path and is still helpful

[minor jewel]

after using it to get that one penace it does have a solid place in my laspistol build

[sinful swallow]

Id even take 5% base damage

[iron marten]

god bless the penance update. Opened my eyes on smoke nades. Now I run it with every build

[minor jewel]

I still havent foudn them useful, havent done the penance tho

I hate how it coveres my teams view if Im not using executioners stance

[frank ether]

The %25 ammo I consider more critical than survivalist

It buffs all the ammo pick-ups if I'm not mistaken

[sinful swallow]

Yeaj

Since it's based on total

[iron marten]

ammo pick-ups are based on reserve ye

tins are 15%

packs are 50%

[frank ether]

on most melee based builds you're gonna end up there to take precision/deadshot anyway

to give your gun a little juice

[minor jewel]

what the penance system has opened my eyes on is the synergy between plasma gun and weapons specialist

[junior needle]

Ammo pickups are % based on reserve

so yes

[iron marten]

Ye that's fair. Haven't seen anyone on my team complain though, unless they're being nice, lol

[minor jewel]

hits some breakpoints with bulwarks and with always prepared you never have to reload

[frank ether]

See the thing is even tho its really strong no one complains about it because its a vet only thing

I sometimes feel like auras are a bad idea

[junior needle]

Also someone told me that ammo counts couldn't go beyond 999 because of an integer limit or whatever, and that was a lie because the mg4 goes over 1100 with the ammo node

[frank ether]

like I'm just not sold on these class based buffs that affect your build but you can't reliably have it

its not like the helldivers boosters where you can have what you want at all times

[junior needle]

I think auras should be out of the tree and selectable in a sidebar or something

[frank ether]

so in a sense, auras being weak is better

stronger auras will just become must haves

by design

[junior needle]

(Like helldivers boosters)

[frank ether]

Yeah, I feel this way about grenades aswell.

[junior needle]

Another thing arrowhead has done better than obesefish

[iron marten]

yeah, I don't like how nades affect my pathing

[junior needle]

same

[lime gyro]

AH has done alot of good things

[frank ether]

like your aura/grenade choice affecting pathing is the main reason these elements are such complaining points

[tawny badger]

what's this about nades affecting pathing

[lime gyro]

If FS took some notes darktide would be chefs kiss mwah

[tawny badger]

well maybe not notes on weapon balancing

[lime gyro]

We dont speak on that

[frank ether]

They chose to improve the lacking paths instead

kinda evident from right path veteran buffs and smoke buffs

[lime gyro]

:((

[junior needle]

"Make almost all the weapons dogshit"

Fatshark did that on release

[tawny badger]

HMG dead on arrival⁉️

[lime gyro]

Hopefully this next patch will fix up the weapon issue for HD2 atleast

[iron marten]

I did like the change they did with the keystones - putting the 3 toughness regen nodes at the top

[lime gyro]

Or atleast at the bare minimum be a step towards that direction

[frank ether]

If you asked me a lot of the guns still feel terrible to use and I have to jump through hoops to make them bearable

[iron marten]

Confirmed Kill used to be near the bottom lol

[junior needle]

The recoil in this game contributes heavily to the "this weapon feels like shit" factor

Ilas are technically fine numerically

[frank ether]

Its not so much the amount of recoil though

the way the game does recoil

[iron marten]

an excerpt of my skill tree for psword/plasma lol

[junior needle]

But I HATE using them because of the bouncing

[frank ether]

often times uncontrollable recoil

nothing to master

[junior needle]

And it doesn't even line up with the sight

[minor jewel]

I still think power sword is a problem child, not as much of one anymore tho

idk if that opinion is outdated

[junior needle]

Peesword should be strong if it's gonna be tedious to use with the charging

And the mobility

[lime gyro]

i havent used psword in a looong time

[junior needle]

I think weapons that need constant charging should be reworked

That shit is annoying

[lime gyro]

Ive been using dclaw since back when everyone used to call it mega dogshit (it kinda was dooky back then) but still

[agile forge]

Other weapons have started to prove themselves to be very good is the thing

[iron marten]

looking back at my old dt clips when power cycler gave me 7 energized swings lol

[frank ether]

%100

[agile forge]

And they don't have shit mobility and recharge issues

[frank ether]

the psword rework with push attack was cool and all but the core issue remains

[lime gyro]

What we need are more full auto lasguns

:((((

[agile forge]

Like the chainsword 4 is busted ATM, but struggles against armour

[agile forge]

Just make the ones we have decent

[frank ether]

what kind of moron would walk into a fight with their weapon uncharged lmao thats the other thing

[agile forge]

We get the half-broken hand-me-downs

[lime gyro]

Dude theres nothing more i want then a accatran buff

[agile forge]

Accatran is great btw

At least the accatran laspistol :)

Recons poop

[lime gyro]

Nah the recon lasguns

[frank ether]

recon is actually viable now

[iron marten]

got me there in the first half

[lime gyro]

U still have to be super nitpicky and about ur blessings

[junior needle]

""""Viable""""

[frank ether]

Yes

you still need to have shock trooper

which is the big crutch carrying it

[lime gyro]

Ive had millions of dockets go down the drain and tens of thpusands of plasteel too

Trying to get the ideal recon

Still till this day havent

[agile forge]

It doesn't help that all classes except ogryn are crit classes now

[junior needle]

They're still sizably underperforming

[agile forge]

So recon has bad synergy in general

[junior needle]

By a large margin

[lime gyro]

Its just fatshark literally gutted the recons post 13

[frank ether]

the gunplay system in many cases doesn't allow for skill expression

[lime gyro]

They buffed it too hard then gutted it even harder

[agile forge]

Like some people use recons on gun psyker

[iron marten]

this was my recon in the 20 days it was useable

[agile forge]

And it baffles me

[frank ether]

they don't know how to limit powerful weapons because of that

so crits it is

[agile forge]

Veteran it's ok

But on psyker it's fucking garbage

[frank ether]

Tbh crits arent a bad mechanic the way they implement it

[lime gyro]

I use recon cuz i kinda like a challenge and its the only full auto lasgun

[frank ether]

I want to be fair

[minor jewel]

honestly people should use the laspistol on psyker, its way better than youd think

[agile forge]

I have no problem with crits being a thing

[agile forge]

Accatran laspistol is good

[frank ether]

many waepons and many classes where you can reliably get crits back to back when you want them

[junior needle]

Crits strings are apparently on their way out

[agile forge]

CIAG is viscerally satisfying though

[iron marten]

lately, I've been cosplaying as a guardsman with a knife and ilas... it's been painful but fun, to say the least

[junior needle]

And supposedly recons are getting reworked down the line

[lime gyro]

Im just a kasrkin with a dclaw and a recon lasgun

I use recon cuz theres no hotshots n thats the closest thing

[frank ether]

Ciag users on suicide watch, I've been experimenting with a weakspot based agriag build though, and its already decent

[junior needle]

According to unconfirmed hypothetical reports which are in no way indicative of fact due to NDA's

[iron marten]

i seee

[agile forge]

The laspistol still doesn't really feel powerful to me, even in a build that makes it work well

[iron marten]

also, if you want to spice it up, do knife and helbore

[agile forge]

The main upside for me is suppression resistance built in

[lime gyro]

if fatshark adds a hotshot my life will be complete

[agile forge]

Shovel 7 and helbore

[lime gyro]

Im gonna be running knife soon but w recon instead of hellbore

Lasgun needs to go brrr

[frank ether]

Will they just delete crit strings and replace it with nothing though?

there has to be a catch to this

[junior needle]

You don't even need crits for big damage on ciag, but automatics would very likely also get a crit chance buff if crit strings were removed. Most are sitting at -2%

[iron marten]

I've been trying to like shovel... but I keep falling back to knife

[minor jewel]

btw the og shovel special can stop mutants from charging if you get a headshot

[lime gyro]

Lol if crit strings get gone then recon will just be straight up unuseable

[frank ether]

You need a finesse hit of either kind at the very least

[lime gyro]

The crit strings r the only thing thats like heavily carrying tht gun rn

[frank ether]

nerfing crit strings I don't really mind too much

[junior needle]

Still has extremely good bodyshot damage on unyielding and maniac

[gilded wraith]

Hopefully that keeps the ciag from suffering the recon fate.

[lime gyro]

My whole build which makes the recon remotely decent for auric damns and maels heavily relies on crits

[iron marten]

bolt pistol soon... my commissar vet will be complete...

[junior needle]

Oh whoops, that example has crits. It's like 1400 maniac dps without any crits irrc

[agile forge]

It's less because of the crit damage though right

[frank ether]

ciag at point blank does dps yes

[agile forge]

And more because of rending and ammo recovery

[lime gyro]

I crit as much as i rend cuz i use shooters stance too

[agile forge]

I mean you have the rending from crits or something

Brittle from crits maybe

[frank ether]

I like how barebones ciag gets two crit strings there

[junior needle]

There's no rending on crit anymore for ranged, it's purely because of shocktrooper. Recons have very low finesse values.

[frank ether]

and you can see how impactful crit chains are

back to back crit-crit-crit-crit

[iron marten]

if ur insane, run deadshot with ciag

[junior needle]

You can't proc additional crit strings off a crit string btw

[gilded wraith]

Watch them nerf crit strings and onslaught in the same patch.

[frank ether]

people been doing this since like p13

its good

[agile forge]

I stopped using it tbh

[iron marten]

I tried it once, never again. Though, I do admire the madlads that use it

[frank ether]

if you're already committed to stamina its not that bad

[agile forge]

It's good but it costs far too much

[frank ether]

if you dont build for stamina I wouldn't

[agile forge]

And MF Ex Stance CIAG is already so point hungry

I was having to sacrifice grenade regeneration for it

For something which was arguably crippling me lol

[frank ether]

its overkill and point hungry

[junior needle]

If you went without a keystone you could do it fine I'm pretty sure

[frank ether]

the attraction of deadshot builds is the point efficiency anyway

but with crit strings potentially being out

what do they want us to do?

everyone running revolver?

will soon find out I guess

[iron marten]

I just hope we have a better than a band-aid solution for surv

[junior needle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9c32fe5f-2269-41ab-8967-e3ff85847649

Something like this, extra points with nade regen

[terse idol]

Gotta kill surv 😌

[iron marten]

true

increase the ammo reserve instead

[terse idol]

Max ammo increase could help for sure

Least for things that neeed it

Like boltgun

[iron marten]

yeah, poor bolter

got hit pretty hard with surv nerf

I guess fan revolver too if you just ride the high shooting it for 2 seconds

[frank ether]

like deleting it

[junior needle]

Pubs implode because people who waste ammo refuse to stop doing it

And now everyone has to constantly ammo goblin

[frank ether]

great time to play melee vet

[iron marten]

idm if they horde ammo and do damage with it

[junior needle]

Great time to play bleed knife zealot

[iron marten]

if I see 13 small ammo taken but 700k damage, I won't complain

[junior needle]

700k damage
lol, lmao

[iron marten]

hahaha

I was just referencing that one kickback ogryn I played with

[frank ether]

the only difference is kickback ogryn doesn't have to try

[iron marten]

took all the ammo, but goddamn his damage was the real thing

yeah true

[frank ether]

do you know how they do it?

they look at the general vicinity of the enemy and press M1

if you can do this

good job

you mastered ogryn skill ceiling for gunplay

[tawny badger]

13 small ammo ❌
13 large ammo ✅

[junior needle]

Kickback overkills a bunch on soft targets so the damage looks more useful than it is

t. kickback user

[frank ether]

now I can show you how to dodge slide in stream and you can also master ogy skill ceiling for movement

[iron marten]

[tawny badger]

dangit game stop giving me mk 3 hellbores

[frank ether]

doesnt scoreboard separate overkill dmg though

[junior needle]

show you how to dodge slide in stream
Step 1: Make an ahk macro to do it for you

I haven't used vanilla scoreboard for a long time but probably

But you have to actually look at that number

[frank ether]

Honestly ogy is so braindead I'd actually fall asleep on keeb if I did that

[iron marten]

it does, but according to ovenproof, who made a plugin for the scoreboard, it's inaccurate, so he made a plugin for it that fixes it

I use PowerDI anyway

I can see people's builds with it

[frank ether]

I should probably update my scoreboard

it hasnt been updated in like a year lmao

[iron marten]

lmao

[frank ether]

thing is I do not really care so I never bothered

but if its reporting false info

might aswell fix that

Eh, I'm not even using ovenproof's one

I have the uh, other one

[iron marten]

this one? https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22

[frank ether]

yep

[iron marten]

this is ovenproof's plugin for it https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/281 though I use this now

[frank ether]

I guess I kinda just stopped caring

about numbers

and performance

[iron marten]

I probably should too, but I always like seeing if someone does better than the entire team by a large margin, so I just steal their build

[frank ether]

my runs end over small things if they ever do

like oh silent poxburster

or skating mauler

[junior needle]

Or shockwave overheads that visibly miss you when you dodge but you still instantly die to them

[midnight totem]

The 90 degree angle crusher overhead

[frank ether]

oh the dodge bonanza special

I had one get me while I was behind the crusher once lmao

good times

To be honest sometimes I feel like its not a game bug or netcode issue

but just servers being terrible

last time I convinced some old friends to boot darktide up we had the server boot all 4 of us out

the game didn't end though weirdly enough, we could reconnect, it was just laggy ah

[clear lantern]

if the team made it, and you got some books if there's books to get, a win is a win

[frank ether]

the only stat that matters is how much plasteel you picked up

[clear lantern]

25 tonnes

[somber axle]

One of my fav matches of all time was playing my Ogryn and helping a level 20 and a level 26 through Hab Dreyko

It's more fun not knowing how they're performing because they're not even max level so it didn't matter

They don't have full talent trees or maxed out weapons and they're not hunting for slight upgrades on 370 base rating weapons for ideal stats/perks/blessings

Sometimes whatever the numbers are don't matter and it's all about how the game felt

And I really, really loved that game

[frank ether]

when leveling I always hope I'll just get carried for fast xp

and end up with lvl 30's in malice with kitted weapons that somehow underperform and need babying lmao

maybe I just pick the wrong hours lmao

[shadow aurora]

I wonder why they decided to put the smoke grenade out n the right side of the tree

Works so much better with shout and exe builds

[oak gorge]

i kinda like the splinter cell stuff all being on the right side of the tree

[thick kestrel]

thematics mainly, smoke lines up with the sneaky theming of the combat specialist/infiltrate side of the tree

as well as providing a means to help you dive gunner nests

[shadow aurora]

Yeah it lines up but smoke is easily the worst nade to take with infil

[oak gorge]

but it's cool

:3

[shadow aurora]

Fair

[oak gorge]

plus i can forget i still have 2 of them left at the exit elevator and throw them all in there

[thick kestrel]

and in fairness it does tend towards the rescue/support aspects the right side of the tree has

[hollow warren]

I hate Focus Target so much... Still got 440 kills to go, my pinky finger hurts so much holding down the crouch button

[shadow aurora]

Varlet, do NOT hotbox the evacuation elevator!

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[oak gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/weed-bake-out-brutally-awesome-gif-3431658

me stepping out of the hotboxed storm raptor and brahms sees me

instant execution

[hollow warren]

I managed to kill one of my team mates in a previous mission lol

big guy got grabbed by a chaos spawn and seems like clipped through the walls during the grab animation, I used voice of command

and big guy fell down the abyss 😦

[oak gorge]

still funny that a vet can shout so loud a chaos spawn drops its prey

[trim steppe]

You shouted him out of existence? That's metal asf

[hollow warren]

yeah, I shouted, the spawn let go of the ogryn while he was still behind textures

fell all the way down to the center of Atoma it seems

[oak gorge]

some say he is still falling to this day

forever lost in the warp

[hollow warren]

in search for rashuns

okay, back to crab walking the entire mission

https://tenor.com/view/zoidberg-walking-zoidberg-futurama-walking-funny-gif-13167961

[analog mural]

Yeah cspawn grab tends to cause out of bounds issues

Ive been personally yeeted out of bounds by cspawn atleast three times that I remember

[junior needle]

It's muties for me

[analog mural]

Yeah I've had that too but it hasn't happened with muties in a while so I think they are mostly fixed

Although it could just be that I've gotten better and therefore grabbed less

[gilded rock]

No keystone veteran is enlightened

[sleek garden]

i did a no keystone boltgun build once

when i had to reinstall the game all my loadouts were gone

goodbye bolter

[tulip onyx]

Fellas is this worth upgrading?

[midnight totem]

Yes

The combat bbgun

[trim steppe]

I would not, you can do better easily

[midnight totem]

I mean, if it's a serious question, no

[charred dome]

So just to be sure because I rolled up a vet, mk2 and mk5 axes are really only different with the modifiers? One has finesse and the other has cleave targets?

[untold pagoda]

stopping power affect armor penetration so no man

mobility is dump stat

i think so it the same with stability really

damage>stopping power>ammo

[trim steppe]

Essentially. And the fact that Rashad has finesse makes it just straight up better than antax pretty much

[serene bough]

wow thats a lot of words

someone should pin

[hollow warren]

chat when you're a puny vet and the rest are ogryns

[sullen scarab]

Is this still a good laspistol roll, or do you really need Dumdum on it over infernus nowadays?

I run it with deadshot lol

[somber axle]

My fav is a VoC Vet shouting a Burgle into spitting up an Ogryn

"WHAT'S IN YOUR MOUTH?? SPIT IT OUT! RIGHT NOW!!"

like they're talking to a dog

[oak gorge]

burgle is just a puppy after all

a gross puppy but a puppy nonetheless

[charred dome]

gracias m80

Yeah I have 150 hours in ogryn and literally nothing else

Was like damn I need to try something else lol

[pale pecan]

What should I change on this Helbore?

[somber axle]

hey sorry for not doing the thing yesterday I was tired after work and forgor after getting home let me know whenever you want to get the lost bet out of the way or if you're fine without it that's fine too

[charred dome]

Stupid question but does charismatic affect cohesion radius or just aura?

[last parcel]

death penalty

[charred dome]

It says aura but ogryn has a similar talent that affects cohesion, I'm wondering if it's just an oversight

[somber axle]

A friend used VoC to shout someone out of a Burgle so unless something else happened to stagger the Burgle that I didn't see it can make them vomit

[midnight totem]

What lost bet?

[somber axle]

I was very, very stupid but in fairness I was on 4 hours of sleep

[charred dome]

Ah so it's just the wrong wording

100% gonna take that then

I always grab it on ogryn lol

[midnight totem]

Okay but what lost bet?

[somber axle]

I made an open bet that anyone who could make a Kantrael IV Infantry Lasgun do at least 2k+ DPS on a Crusher would win me entering voice chat and telling them they're cooler than me and then after realised that it's not a hard metric to hit at all

it was a very dumb challenge in retrospect

[pale pecan]

Yeah, especially if you run Focus

[midnight totem]

Ah lol

[somber axle]

There's enough rending in the Vet tree for me to juice Recons into 3.4k DPS on Crushers so I should have known the Kantrael IVs could hit that easily too

[pale pecan]

Now someone help me figure out this Helbore

[somber axle]

Blessings are perfect leave those alone

[pale pecan]

Was wondering if No Respite might be better than Chaining

[somber axle]

I'd do Carapace/Elite but I think numbers cat might recommend maniac

and when I say he might recommend maniac

I think he'd recommend maniac over Carapace

[pale pecan]

Maniac is always a good choice

[somber axle]

No that's a Mk III, the slowest firing variant

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/handbanana-gif-6133650

[midnight totem]

Hoisted by your own clown tricks

[somber axle]

It basically NEEDS Weight of Fire

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hiding-scared-cat-thaddeuswinter-thaddeus-winter-scared-gif-8846590460708131918

[pale pecan]

Gotcha gotcha, I was just playing into the never needing ammo aspect with Shock Trooper

[somber axle]

I understand completely because I do that on my Mk III and Mk II Helbores too LOL

[pale pecan]

I'm basically using it as a sniper class weapon anyways so I was thinking less chaining more precise shots

But I guess that makes sense

[somber axle]

I have learned a lesson I will not repeat and if all goes well Soldier 69 will be the only person to ever know my voice here LMFAO

[last parcel]

chain your precise shots

[last parcel]

the vox recorder under the floorboards:

[somber axle]

That's a good idea in theory but in practice you'll be firing a lot of follow up shots to deal with other threats. If you kill one target, there will always be another. And another after that one too. WoF helps you on taking care of multiple threats rapidly

[pale pecan]

Fair enough

[somber axle]

I don't think No Respite helps the Mk III on any breakpoints but I'm not entirely sure about that

[pale pecan]

Gotcha

[somber axle]

You can already achieve 1HKO status on a Crusher with it

[pale pecan]

With Carapace I assume?

[junior needle]

No respite is only active on already staggered targets

[somber axle]

[pale pecan]

Pretty sure it also affects attacks that will stagger a target

[somber axle]

Carapace makes the breakpoint easier but idk if it's strictly necessary

I'd have to hop back into the Psykanium for clown science

[pale pecan]

Fair, Weakspot Damage and Maniacs is always a good choice anyways

[somber axle]

You're more likely to consistently 2HKO Crushers with a Mk III but with enough juice you can 1HKO the first couple Crushers in your sights at the very least

[last parcel]

weakspot damage is not a good choice

[junior needle]

I tested it awhile back and it didn't do that, but it could've been a classic fatshark undocumented change since then

[pale pecan]

Surely with stacking all the weakspot damage vet has it's fine

[junior needle]

The weak spot damage perk is generally very bad

The precision strikes talent is generally a good take though

[pale pecan]

You mean the keystone?

[junior needle]

no

[pale pecan]

Ah

You mean the perk on weapons

[midnight totem]

Too late. I got an entire YouTube clip of your voice

https://youtu.be/EtsYlosvwYE?si=PGPDM9RnK6LLNmJX

[pale pecan]

Yeah I use Weakspot on everything I can help it with

[somber axle]

Dude I wish I was the voice of Pomni LMFAO

[midnight totem]

[somber axle]

I would be famous

actually wait no

I don't want that

[midnight totem]

[pale pecan]

I can 3 hit a Crusher with a catachan knife with my Vet build specifically for getting an extra 100% weakspot damage

[midnight totem]

Pretty sure being that famous would be a bad idea yeah

[somber axle]

the money would be nice and being the voice of a popular character would be SO COOL but people on the internet are weird dude LMFAO

[pale pecan]

Gotta have that 10% to hit the 3 hit

[junior needle]

Are you aware of how crit and weakspot damage actually work?

They only apply to the bonus damage of the hit, and not the whole hit. So if you hit for 100, and weakspot hit for 110, 10% weakspot damage will give you 1 more damage.

They're always lower value than it seems, and the actual value depends on the base finesse damage of the weapon

[slow spade]

A shame it works like that :c

[junior needle]

Agree, it's really dumb

[pale pecan]

So if I'm understanding you right

If a body shot hits for 200 and a weakspot for 400, that means 200 bonus damage from a weakspot

So 10% of that bonus damage is 20

[junior needle]

yep

[pale pecan]

So half as much?

So it's really 5% weakspot damage

[junior needle]

In that scenario, yes

[pale pecan]

Interesting

I didn't know that

[junior needle]

But it depends on the weapon

Some have very low finesse values

So it can be like 2%

[pale pecan]

Well weapons without a finesse stat at all definitely suffer

[junior needle]

So

the finesse stat is not necessarily important for that

You can have a weapon with high finesse damage that doesn't have a finesse stat

[pale pecan]

Example?

[junior needle]

Finesse on the stat bar for melee weapons also affects attack speed

Off the top of my head, chainswords have pretty high finesse modifiers for a weapon with good damage on regular hits

A weapon can have arbitrarily high finesse damage because fatshark happened to put it that way

[hollow warren]

thank the Emperor that's over with

[junior needle]

There we go

Most melee weapons have the finesse stat even if their finesse damage values sugg

[sullen scarab]

For the laspistol, is Ghost/Infernus ok as the 2 blessings on it?

[junior needle]

This ogryn knife has 1.6x on unarmored without a finesse stat, and the peesword has about that with

[sullen scarab]

Or do I really need dumdum

[junior needle]

Take dumdum over infernus

[sullen scarab]

Hm ok

[junior needle]

It's much less useful in practice than it looks

[sullen scarab]

Man, I keep trying to roll a good accatran but get dumpstered lol

[junior needle]

Laspeestols do big chunks of damage, especially on a crit

Which is bad for infernus usage

[sullen scarab]

true

[junior needle]

Ghost also enables deadshot/dnd shenanigans

[sullen scarab]

Which pistol is more preferred, the fast one or the slow one?

yeah I was running ghost with the shennaingans lol

i keep rolling stuff like this lol

or the useless crit damage perk

[junior needle]

Crit chance is actually a good perk for the 2 if you roll it

[sullen scarab]

yeah

just wish I could change the crit damage to something else haha

maniac damage is so low on it

[junior needle]

Rending strikes helps with that

[sullen scarab]

I rolled a perfect Kantrael version, but I'm not sure if I like running the kantreal

ohhh true

maybe I'll just use the crit one for now

with rending strikes

does the rending stack? like if I shoot someone armored 10 times, it goes up to 100%?

[junior needle]

Yeah the maniac and unyielding values are scuffed

No, unless it explicitly applies stacks of brittle like onslaught

[sullen scarab]

ok

so just a flat 10% buff

[junior needle]

It's a flat amount, but the flat amounts are added together

So if you take the 10% rending from the crabman keystone

You get 20% rending, enough to push you up to near 100 at ideal ranges on those damage types

And also do acceptable damage to carapace

[sullen scarab]

got it

thanks again!

[junior needle]

[sullen scarab]

Man, I keep feeling something is off when i use the kantrael slow firing version

[tall torrent]

laspistol

[sullen scarab]

like there's some kind of lag or desync where my shots ghost

[junior needle]

k12 is old and busted

But also servers are scuffed and phantom hits are common

[sullen scarab]

the kantrael pistol, I mean, not the rifle lol

no wonder lol

[tall torrent]

kantrael mk10 laspistol is horrible

[midnight totem]

I feel like Rending strikes bonus should be a lil bigger

[sullen scarab]

Yeah I just don't click with it.

like I was unloading the MK10 laspistol at someone point blank

and only like half the shots registered or something

[junior needle]

It used to be prior to patch 14

15%

[sullen scarab]

back to rolling more II's

I'm so mad, my Zealot rolled a perfect II

but my veteran can't

shared inventory when?!

[sullen scarab]

[midnight totem]

Whaaa. Why they nerf it?

[short crane]

for some reason fatshark hates rending, nerfed ogryn rending to the ground too

[midnight totem]

Elite 15 overall deals more damage already, and brittle from onslaught benefits the team

In 2 hits

[sullen scarab]

Precision Strikes necessary for a laspistol build?

or nah

[junior needle]

Recons were having too much fun

And by recons I mean the 6d

[midnight totem]

That seems like a recon problem and not a skill problem

[junior needle]

It's generally a good pickup for laspistols but you'd need to put two points in that row for deadshot

They have high finesse values

And are accurate

[sullen scarab]

Trying to pick up the duck and dive

and everything else for it lol

[tall torrent]

precision strikes is necessary on almost all builds

[sullen scarab]

makes sense

I normally always take it

[junior needle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9c334852-5ed6-4b7d-a263-50def5892e6f

Here's a simple starter

Assuming you want voc

And survivalist

[sullen scarab]

ye

that's awesome, thank you

oh snap, keystoneless

we roll

[junior needle]

You got 4 points left

So you can take whatever pleases you

[sullen scarab]

excellent, thank you

I can skip Take it Down, right?

trying to decide between the rending one from crabwalking or boss damage lol

[junior needle]

Take it down is which one?

[sullen scarab]

the Unyielding damage bonus one

to the right of the rending strikes one

[tall torrent]

that's ogryn & monster dmg

it's not unyielding

[junior needle]

Bring it down, and you could take it if you want

It's better than straight up unyielding

Because it affects crushers too

[sullen scarab]

oh true

[junior needle]

The 5% crit node is also an option

[sullen scarab]

I think I'll take that over the rending at 10 stacks one

[junior needle]

You'll get more crusher damage out of the rending

More general damage as well for maniacs and not as much for regular unyielding targets

[short crane]

if im not going mid keystone i'd put points in reciprocity and desperado for a more well rounded build and more crit

[sullen scarab]

ah ok

rending works on maniacs as well?

just flat damage bonus right?

[junior needle]

Rending works on maniac/flak/carapace/unyielding

[sullen scarab]

is it the "downgrade" mechanic

[junior needle]

And rending works by adjusting the ADM of your weapon to that type

[sullen scarab]

where they drop to a lower tier

[junior needle]

No, that's only for fotf

[sullen scarab]

ahhh ok

[tall torrent]

I don't think u need shock trooper since u already play survivalist

get superiority complex instead

[sullen scarab]

yeah that's another one maybe

[junior needle]

From my experience with the laspistol, I'd recommend shocktrooper still

Its ammo pool isn't nearly as deep as ilas

[tall torrent]

rending strikes is not the most impactful node for laspistol

[short crane]

survivalist nerf hit hard man :<

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/ouch-power-ranger-gif-14370780

[sullen scarab]

I'll just roll more laspitols and see what I get lol

[junior needle]

So ADM's are your percentages you see here

And rending adjusts those linearly until you hit 100%

[sullen scarab]

ahhh ok, yes, I remember now

[junior needle]

Of course, whether it changes your breakpoints depends

[tall torrent]

rending doesn't push breakpoints for mk2 laspistol

not needed

if u take it for pure maniac dps, that's fine but not gonna make a big difference because half ur dps comes from weakspot & crit

[sullen scarab]

got it

[tall torrent]

if u take it for boss dmg, might as well take ogryn dmg instead

[near sable]

meanwhile, my ranged gun drops on psyker:

[tall torrent]

if only this wasn't a mk10

[near sable]

real

do have to roll another mk2 laspistol, ate my old one to get a proper mk10

[tall torrent]

@junior needle I brought back ur requested talent ratings in guide

[sullen scarab]

yeah, this one's stuck on my zealot lol

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-mr-burns-gif-22356878

[near sable]

(also psyker)

[tiny summit]

I like the mk10 but only on a weapon specialist build with agile engagement. It feels nice to swap to it and 1 shotting some priority targets like a laser deagle

[last parcel]

marksman's focus rending subnode should be 11/10

[wild vortex]

Why would you use it over Zarona, other than for fun

[tall torrent]

melee weapons now display their attacks' cleave values

I'm cooking

[junior needle]

Oh yeah, is reciprocity still scuffed for ranged?

[tiny summit]

Zarona I sleep and I have a full magazine

[tall torrent]

yes

[junior needle]

Well then it wouldn't be recommended for ranged weapon leveraging

[tall torrent]

the only unique case is for power sword, where only energized cleave values are shown

[tiny summit]

Also with the mk10 I can skip on a point that goes towards reloading the zarona

[tall torrent]

because nobody rly cares abt un-energized power sword cleave values

[wild vortex]

Fair enough

[tiny summit]

Unenergized power sword might as well not be a real weapon

[wild vortex]

I find it so silly. Like why have a weapon that only makes sense to use when energized

[last parcel]

it deals emotional damage

[tiny summit]

Because energized is so powerful, so it's setup. The only time I'll consider a power sword w/o PC4 is over a bricked combat axe w/o BM

[wild vortex]

Yeah I mean from a game design perspective

[tall torrent]

this section also has its own hyperlink in the talent tree

[wild vortex]

The existence of that weapon is just silly

[junior needle]

Fatshork makes a lot of questionable design decisions

Must be something in the tap water

[tiny summit]

At least force swords don't feel as gimped unenergized

[somber axle]

Enhanced Target Priority has niche value for pairing with Counterfire and a CD stim to annoy your team by making entire rooms of shooters glow for no reason

[last parcel]

giving your team the tv netflix filter

[somber axle]

it's just testing them to see if they'll still notice the trapper sneaking up on them by jingling keys in their face

[last parcel]

alternatively

[junior needle]

Force swords are meant to be a functional weapon outside of the active

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/fnv-fallout-new-vegas-gif-26091526

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/vulpes-inculta-fallout-new-vegas-legion-degenerates-gif-20957164

[tiny summit]

An artist I follow just discovered the Legion wear skirts...they have been making some really weak depicted Legion art.

[somber axle]

I like fighting the Legion and I love Boone so this sounds funny to me

I kill Vulpes in Nipton on every playthrough and then spend the rest of the game dealing with Legion hit squads

[tiny summit]

Infinite money glitch. Piss off slavers, they send goons to die and be looted

[static rune]

Woah didn't know you could play as Boone in New Vegas

HEY I SAW THAT

And valid.

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[static rune]

I'm down bad for Arcade

[junior needle]

Do weakspots and crits have some adm ignore now?

[tall torrent]

No, it’s just that a single weakspot crit from mk2 Laspistol hits for like 900 dmg on flamer

You don’t gain much from taking rending

In terms of practical ttk

[somber axle]

There are so many good companions in FNV and I'd romance like half of them if it were at all possible

[midnight totem]

I'll romance Hallowette if she gives me a discount on cosmetic slop

[last parcel]

fisto my beloved

[gilded wraith]

Does the mk4 ilg fire fast enough to justify onslaught as a talent pick?

[junior needle]

not really

Actually, let me check it again

[unique orchid]

what do you guys recc for the 1a ILG

[static rune]

No fucking way

[junior needle]

5 rps

[static rune]

assume the position

[tall torrent]

No

[junior needle]

Not really a factor on anything except a crusher

[unique orchid]

the MG1a*

[tall torrent]

Ghost + headhunter
Flak + maniac

[static rune]

Real. Wish I could've romanced Joshua so instead I just cosplay as him

[unique orchid]

any skills?

[static rune]

On the other hand: bear and the bull.

[junior needle]

ghost is best taken with deadshot/dnd

[tall torrent]

Are u playing a sharpshooter build or a hybrid build

[tall torrent]

Ghost is fine on its own

[unique orchid]

im glad i fucking murdered ulysses that mf Y A P P E D

[junior needle]

It is

But

[tall torrent]

It’s so u don’t need to take ET to tank stalkers & shotgunners

1 blessing to save 2 talent points

[unique orchid]

sharpie build but i really just magdump the mg1a

[junior needle]

Deadshot/dnd shenanigans are really good on lasguns

[tall torrent]

If ur just gonna magdump then prob no deadshot

Precision strikes + determined + fully loaded + superiority complex

[unique orchid]

i aim for heads but also magdump

[tall torrent]

Get rending strikes

[junior needle]

You will get stam back from any dodge with ghost

Best leveraged with stam curios

You can try both out

[unique orchid]

my build is a little silly

[tall torrent]

Take precision strikes

[junior needle]

That is very silly

[tall torrent]

And probably not the +50% suppression node lol

[unique orchid]

i like the suppression node

[junior needle]

It's really bad

[tall torrent]

What does it do for MG1a

[unique orchid]

fine fine

[unique orchid]

my psyker is double shield and brain burst with emp psy, i LOVE silly

[junior needle]

There's silly

And then there's just choosing things that are bad

[unique orchid]

i enjoy it :)

[junior needle]

Lacerate flesh tearer knife works for me

[unique orchid]

i forget what rending even does tbh

[junior needle]

armor pen to armor types

[unique orchid]

ah yes, i do love bonus armor pen

[somber axle]

I'd love to do Fallout cosplay but I've never been to any convention where it'd be appropriate to dress up like that other than the last FF14 Fanfest and I dressed up as my in-game character in full White Mage robes for that convention

[last parcel]

go the grocery store

[somber axle]

I'd be stared at too much if I dress up that much for grocery store visits

[unique orchid]

honestly? nowadays someone dressed like a fallout char is just a regular npc

[somber axle]

I don't like being stared at or seen generally LOL

[static rune]

I mean i went to see a movie in full Joshua cosplay

[somber axle]

Gotta be sneaky

it's ok to dress up for conventions because basically everyone is

[last parcel]

so stealth suit cosplay

[unique orchid]

did you also learn the damn, quiet walking nonsense

do you also sneak-walk

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-flanders-ned-simpsons-cold-gif-12728351

[static rune]

But that's also because my bestie works at the movie theater

And he let me in

Full bandages and everything

[last parcel]

joshua, put a cap in general gobbledigook over here

[static rune]

Aye aye captain

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/nev-nevolent-owl-gif-26700402

[static rune]

I have a WW1 1911 from Utah I'm basically Joshua irl

[somber axle]

no amount of quiet walking would make me sneaky enough in the outfit I wore to that convention LOL

[last parcel]

did you inspect it through the movie

[static rune]

It's just a matter of time until my NCR Ranger armor shows up

[static rune]

No but I did it with my airsoft one at home

I have the animation memorized

I got my ranger armor customized so it better fits my locale

That being near Appalachia. I'm the real 76 Ranger.

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout76-fallout-weird-ride-gif-16810745

[static rune]

Wack

[static rune]

Once my NCR Ranger armor shows up I need to finish my Jäger cosplay

[last parcel]

they said it could not be done

[somber axle]

I bought a Helldivers 2 helmet from a cosplay artist on Etsy just as a funny thing to put on my computer desk and if it's good I want to get an NCR helmet from the guy too

[static rune]

Yeah I'm just literally him

[last parcel]

they said it was designed for tanks

[static rune]

It's at the bottom of my bio for a reason

[static rune]

THEY SAID I COULD NOT MAKE IT SMALLER OR MORE ACCURATE

[last parcel]

are you gonna bring back the acog

[static rune]

nope

[somber axle]

I don't think I'll do a full NCR Ranger cosplay but if I ever go to a Fallout convention it could be fun to dress up as an NCR Trooper and quote "Patroling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter" at people over and over

[static rune]

I'm a red dot supremacist

[static rune]

We can be NCR besties

[last parcel]

we won't go quietly

[static rune]

The Legion can count on that

I have a clip of me clubbing Lanius to death with Oh Baby!

[slate hawk]

[somber axle]

If you meet me irl you'll know it is me because I'm the only one wearing a clown nose with the cosplay

[static rune]

Pfft

[last parcel]

holy shit cannibal johnson

[static rune]

Understood

[slate hawk]

Hm?

[last parcel]

all ncr supporters are clowns

embrace fisto

[static rune]

Hey

Fuck you I love taxes

[somber axle]

I like NCR for the drip. NCR Rangers are just too sexy. Also I love Boone so it's hard to oppose him when he's so gung-ho for the NCR. I'll literally change my morals to match someone else's if I like them enough

[wanton dawn]

It is either tax or patriarchy

[steep nexus]

I love taxes so much

[static rune]

Its taxes or slavery

[steep nexus]

It's so cool how I pay them and people with more money than me don't

[somber axle]

I'd have preferred Mr. House ending over NCR ending but like after Elon Musk I can't look at Mr. House the same again LMFAO

[wanton dawn]

House don't smoke weed during interview

[unique orchid]

i would rather die standing than pay taxes

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/hitting-the-ball-rickie-fowler-the-netflix-cup-tee-shot-playing-golf-gif-3075891633342958278

[wanton dawn]

"Understandable"

[static rune]

Ok if we're gonna get into the semantics of it

I'm a Desert Ranger supporter

[somber axle]

House is like actually competent too and had defense technology that was better than the US government powerful enough to stop the majority of nuclear strikes intended for the Vegas Strip so I can kinda still like him but it's hard not to look at him and see Elon Musk

[static rune]

Because the NCR and Desert Rangers merged

But the Desert Rangers were already in Nevada fighting the Legion

[wanton dawn]

Comparing Elon to House is very surface level though

[somber axle]

I love the lore of the Desert Rangers showing Nevada could go toe to toe with the Legion and put the boot to the Legionnaires with or without the NCR

Little Rambos each and every one

[static rune]

Mhm

And that's exactly why I bought their armor

Except I'm doing a Black Ranger specifically

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-pain-in-pain-smile-in-pain-smile-smiling-gif-18066299585040775223

[steep nexus]

At least Mr. House didn't make a dumb ass looking truck

[wanton dawn]

Like for instance: House would never have tried the hyperloop tube

See his opinion on vault

[midnight totem]

Speaking of NCR, anybody who likes fallout should watch SODAZ's fan videos

[static rune]

I sold him some snowglobes then murdered him

[somber axle]

Mr. House said he'd have space travel and colonization. Elon said it too. The weird thing is that I actually believe Mr. House could achieve it in a post-apocalypse scenario, meanwhile Musk is failing to pass rocket certifications and will likely not be able to even attempt a Mars mission until post-December 2025

[static rune]

I also killed off the Khans without a second thought. Never forget Bitter Springs

[wanton dawn]

Technically he only said it to us

[somber axle]

I can't wait for Operation Sunburst to finish. That animation is spectacular

[wanton dawn]

Also House has better track record

[somber axle]

I was briefly sad and then I cackled LMFAO

saving this thanks

[static rune]

I would die for Gummigoo

[slate hawk]

lol, anytime

[somber axle]

with how much he accomplished I'm willing to believe him

Vegas only exists by his effort

His only mistake was not considering Benny would be more trouble than he was worth

[static rune]

Swank my beloved

[wanton dawn]

I doubt House would buy X (formerly Twitter)

[somber axle]

I choose Anarchy btw. Wildcard ending. I just have to worry about Yes Man doing an update to make himself more "assertive" on the implication he could go SkyNet on Nevada

[static rune]

Doubt

[midnight totem]

Right?! The Rangers are here now in the latest. Can't wait to see them in action

[static rune]

Once my NCR cosplay shows up and I fix my Jager cosplay, it'll be time to do something I have been waiting to do for a long time

Make my Krieg Honor Guard cosplay

[somber axle]

I love how SODAZ portrays both the NCR and Brotherhood of Steel as competent fighters. They're each using tactics and weaponry to fight each other. It's not just a band of idiots getting mowed down like 90% of gunfights in movies/shows.

[static rune]

I bought and customized a saber for it

I just need to make the rest of it

[static rune]

Father Elijah being a shithead in the background

[somber axle]

I'd do an Elysian cosplay in a heartbeat if I thought I could wear it at a Warhammer 40k convention without people being weird

[static rune]

I must be out of the loop what's weird about Elysians

[somber axle]

Leadership being incompetent is a problem for the NCR too. It's ok. The talking heads being the problem is lore accurate LMFAO

[last parcel]

wear and jump onto a police officer from the second floor

[somber axle]

Nothing is weird about the Elysians but I don't trust a convention full of Warhammer fans like I'd trust a convention full of FF14 fans

Very different communities

I love the Elysians but being around 40k fans would make me nervous LOL

[static rune]

TALKING HEADS?

I LOVE DAVID BYRNE

[somber axle]

THINK TANK BIG MOUNTAIN STYLE

[static rune]

Oh

I thought we were talking about Talking Heads

[somber axle]

idk what that is

[last parcel]

you're my brain and i'm your body. it was meant to be, baby!

[midnight totem]

Theres a very small overlap between 40k and Ffxiv fans

[somber axle]

yeah it's people like me LOL

[static rune]

Older band

[midnight totem]

And it's usually just me among my friend group >_>

[static rune]

Made Psycho Killer

And Once in a Lifetime

[somber axle]

I've got a friend group of like 11 people and out of that 10 of us are into FF14, but only 5 of us are into 40k

[static rune]

If you know about Corey Laddo's Gman shitpost animations then you've heard once in a lifetime

[somber axle]

I'm the only one still playing Darktide

sadness

but at least we do Rogue Trader

[midnight totem]

Most of my friends are into ffxiv and anime or 40k

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-joel-g-joel-g-ena-temptation-stairway-turron-gif-20387406

[somber axle]

OH THOSE GUYS

[static rune]

Yeah that's Talking Heads

[midnight totem]

Oh there's my best friend, he does both too but

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza0-friday-gif-18777629

[somber axle]

yeah I just didn't recognize the name LOL

I know of them

[midnight totem]

He's not good at shooters. Prefers dawn of war

[slate hawk]

Shovel go bonk, brain is happy

[midnight totem]

And he's a black mage free trial fisher in ffxiv

Currently working on BLU

[static rune]

I have an alarm set every Friday night at 9:30 that plays the music

[midnight totem]

Yes. Lallafell

[static rune]

It serves absolutely no purpose

But it's fun

[agile forge]

Oh hey it's me

[somber axle]

wow there are a surprising amount of 40k + FF14 fans here

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-david-cross-tobias-funke-there-are-dozens-of-us-dozens-gif-5426075

[static rune]

I'm confident enough in myself to claim that I'm a pretty radical dude

[agile forge]

I'm trying to get my static into darktide too lmao

[midnight totem]

This is like, 60 percent of the community

[slate hawk]

The closer final fantasy gets to 40 the bigger of a group there will be lol

[agile forge]

Every release that comes out is slower than the previous though

Remember when you would get 3 releases per generation

[static rune]

I knew a guy who unironically had the anarchist cookbook saved to his laptop and he thought it was so funny and made him super quirky

Instead it just put him on a watch list

[midnight totem]

Dumbass

[somber axle]

they're at 16 now unless new ones released without me noticing

[agile forge]

Tbh it's existence is a kind of curiosity in itself

[slate hawk]

[midnight totem]

Final Fantasy 40k

[somber axle]

I hope the NSA agent assigned to watch me likes how funny I am

[static rune]

He also wore Adidas tracksuits and Ushankas thinking he'd be cool by acting Russian and insulting people in Russian

[midnight totem]

Get me Cloud with a chain buster sword

[static rune]

He wasn't.

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-the-amazing-digital-circus-blank-stare-stare-soulless-gif-8388590147846269745

[somber axle]

afaik I haven't done anything to be on any lists but who knows

[agile forge]

It's the kind of thing it'd be fun to have on a bookshelf but I can see it attracting knobheads mostly lol

[static rune]

That's valid

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-stare-the-amazing-digital-circus-blank-stare-existential-crisis-gif-1974929007435593398

[static rune]

The tism stare

[agile forge]

OK I have got to watch this show

[static rune]

You do

It's great

[wanton dawn]

Who care about the NSA... My profile is probably on every adds line on the planet by now

[static rune]

Kinger my beloved

[agile forge]

I loved hazbin hotel and it seems to have a lot of overlap

[slate hawk]

Cool art

[static rune]

If only I could be as cool as Kinger is

[somber axle]

@midnight totem hey since you like FF14