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Nope, been saving that for a week now. I will not be tempted 
would a sniper build using smoke nades, executioners stance and focus target be viable?
Running talentless is "viable" depending on your definition
It probably won't be as good as running voc though
of course not, voc is insane
smokes aren't really good until higher difficulties when the game swarms you with ranged enemies
just keep that in mind
i mean i usually play damnation so thats not an issue
exe stance is the weakest ult currently though I wouldnt say the build becomes unusable
youre still a helbore sniper, probably
yeah then it should be good in high shock trooper games
in fact I have a build that uses that same setup
I just don't have the gun for it yet
smokes, exe stance, deadshot, focus target
vey nice
throw smokes, exe stance to ping every special/elite
and focus target + deadshot for popping heads with crits
seems fun
i had a guy in my auric damnation earlier doing work with smokes and a revolver earlier and i was inspired
I haven't seen smokes used to great effect yet but I'm hoping I can figure them out myself
whats the best way to use smokes anyway? throw at enemies or throw near self?
usually at enemies to draw them in
throwing them on yourself might help too like a lesser psyker bubble
but you also kind of blind your teammates so I'd make sure to take enhanced target priority just to be nice
oh good idea
yeah that was my main thing with my smoke build... I don't want to piss off my teammates
i dont really need shock trooper w/ a lucius anyway
especially since I'm not used to using them yet lol
classic
That's how I started, brought them to vent purge missions
But now
I'm the reason for vent purge, smoke spam like no tomorrow
portable vent purge
Yeah I didn't really see a reason to use them at all but I just got into auric damnation
now I'm thinking "ok, I could actually do something other than piss people off with smokes"
no use running smokes when you can just kill everything before you need them
I run smokes when I get teamed with three other shout vets.
how do people make so many clips?!
I have a goofy one
I collect clips over time and hoard them like treasures
im clipped out
LMFAO
RIGHT?!
Took the guy for a ride outside and then teleport grabs me like Scorpion from MK
This is serving me pretty well in Auric Heresy with a good columnus and rashad, any tweaks I should consider?
Onslaught is not really worth it. You'd be much better off taking Reciprocity. Gives huge amounts of crit chance throughout a game.
You could also use the stamina regen node next to it to grab Duck and Dive OR even Born Leader since you do have a lot of toughness to share with your teammates.
Mainly running it to fulfill the anti armor roll, but I can definitely give recip a shot. I do like it, but just tight on talent points.
Honestly, rending is pretty overrated. It's only really useful versus carapace and most people in auric damnation already account for a way to kill crushers quickly.
yk what? smokes are neat as hell
dropped a smoke in a choke with a bunch of gunners on the other side, popped exe stance and mowed em down w/o a single shot back
very cool
Smokes definitely do nice things against dogs.
true
i got bored of shredder frags so i wanna try out smokes now lol
gonna be cool learning em
Even more useful during Only Scab, Mostly Ranged
yeah I'm excited to bring out my smoke build into auric missions soon once I FINALLY roll a decent hellbore
wtf is weight of fire? wasnt that renamed from something
i forget what it was called before
charge reduction, don't remember the old name
something that was duplicated with a zealot talent I think
man i'd love to use my lucius 3 with this build but the bayonet sucks so much ass i cant use it
any way to save this?
332? dont bother
Yeah I'd roll for a better one based off of the bases alone
I'm gonna clean this up and try out an hb3 build soon.
oooo you got a good start there
Thinking surgical and cara
very noice
I'm not sure about the perk breakpoints but I'm sure someone dropped them in here somewhere
ive had this absolute cannon sitting around
daaamn
Sweet!
she's a beaut
yeah, i really need to use it more
ive been favoring my mk2
for the bayo in a pinch
I really want to get a decent helbore...
youll get it one day trust
y'know what? this is a sniper build, ill use the mk3
put that 150k from the event to work... it should last all of 60 seconds
isn't that mk3 the fastest?
Yeah... not sure what the goal was on the 3
I really wish Hadron would stop giving me Falter 
to nerf it lmao
probably
i need a good anti-carapace melee that isnt a power sword
cause thats also boring now
The blue shovel's special attack is gud
And even the standard minutarum shovel so long as you got uncanny on it
I use that shit on like half my builds
It has sweeping heavies, which are nice for hordes, but for caparace specifically, either works
pull it out, one shot crusher, resume shooting
that's mk7 right?
blue shovel is a godsend
yep that's the one
this one is my baby
first target is meh but it absolutely destroys crushers
which is why I never recommend taking Onslaught or Rending Strikes
you can just oneshot the big dudes with the right weapons anyway
emperor guide you
love the bayonet
just found this
Lmfao
Keep the second one
The second one is perfectly salvageable!
limb trauma?
Limbsplitter is good, flak is good
Replace Sprint and Trauma
Put carapace and rending strikes on there
trauma for uncanny?
boom
ah
how much does stopping power actually increase dmg
press inspect on the weapon when you're in the menu... I think it's v
it'll tell you
depends on the weapons
you mean uncanny strike? i dont have rending strikes...if thats a blessing
not a bad axe from melkman
rending strikes lowkey bad
VERY good! congrats!
this'll do for now
Yep! That'll do great! Enjoy absolutely DESTROYING crushers
Alright guys
i hate crushers i hate crushers i ahte crushers
people like to talk crap about Limbsplitter because it's not "consistent" but if you're mostly just taking your shovel out to oneshot maulers/crushers its the most consistent shit ever
Mask or no mask
it'll make them a cake walk
just hit a crusher with it but it didnt oneshot
I built a mk4 chaxe to one shot crushers
ive been scammed
How much damage are you off
Do you have bring it down
And superiority
iiii think i do
no superority
i can take off redirect fire and get it tho
ah, there we go
There's some unspoken talent requirements, superiority is base damage increase so it's multiplicative with the other ones
yeah i just gotta crit
good enough for me tbh
easier to pull off than mk6 power sword combo
I'm trying to push bolter into 2 shot territory on them
I REALLY wish exec stance reloaded auto like ogryn and how it used to be
I honestly wish grenade Regen would move into node above survivalist, I feel like that makes most sense
just felt too clunky
Don't give up on it!
yeah the vet tree could definitely use some swaps
why is the smoke grenade so far away from the ability that outlines every enemy?
right????
nahhh I think I'm moving on to bigger and better builds
Why isn't extend duration built in? Why does it auto swap but not auto load? Why is it the only one that doesn't give toughness?
bolter feels bad as a sniper but I like when I can spam it
and sadly you can't build around that
How does it feel bad to you?
try vraks 7 hhauto
Smoke nade should automatically highlight enemies within, or do it as grenade tinkerer
I one tap everything except mauler and crusher
Exe stance should auto reload and not go away when swapping
Make these changes, minimum
going away when swapping is the worse
Then we can go from there
I’ll pop it and then get immediately hit by a mutant
tons of kickback when not using exe stance, terrible swap speed, terrible reload speed, bad ammo efficiency
then it’s gone
just a lot to build around
Left is a vibe
Too good looking. Because nobody can touch him
For the power swords, is it generally mk6 is for elites and mk3 is for horde clear?
I tried putting together an outfit with my new penance armor bit. Eh, hate the color
people swear that the mk6 is better overall with a higher learning curve
mk3 definitely has easier horde clear
I haven't touched PS at all because I've been chasing this high on my mk4 chaxe but it does falter when it's clutch time
That is my experience, yes
but I think they're both as effective once you learn
Mk3's perfect horizontal heavies can be better against certain elites as well
Cycler 4 and what else goes on them?
Say like, a line of ragers
Brutal Momentum is popular
Two heavy sweeps with the mk3 should be head level and will kill them all
or Rampage
And stun them
BM sounds good, I like the passive blessings lol
Mk6 won't quite as manage cleaving as many with its light sweep
Take me back to bolter shattering impact just being +rending
And it's heavy sweep is a diagonal
I like mk6 because it’s shove attack + follow up does very good single target damage
but yeah it’s sweeping attacks don’t cleave as much
Yeah Ive seen this combo
But I haven't tested if it works without melee investment or not
Yeah the shove attack on the mk6 is the main draw
it does stupid amounts of finesse damage
It can work without melee investment, but does best with
How's mk3 vs crushers
I've also considered swapping to knife and joining dark side, I need a melee that eats maybe 2 points at most and holds it's own
It's passable
Bolter build is very point hungry and I'm only running krak for my last penance
My second vet has a build with a mk3
Power cycler, sunder
He's never had a problem with crushers
Knock them down with a frag and heavy away
Of course, his is manic/crusher
I'll have to test it out a bit
Hadron has been extremely nice to me lately
Carapace*
I got 3 weapons on other classes in 1-2 tries each today
Nice
I like manic on all the power sword because of mutie oneshots
Heavy swing at the head and side dodge
Feels like a matador lol
Lol
Spoiled by chain weapons one shotting them pretty much no matter what
My 3rd was a thunder hammer to finally try that out for the first time and that really shook up zealot for me
Ironhelm?
It's aesthetically the best one for sure
It's actually so underrated
Is that the one that got RoF on braced
Yep! Fires like 100 bullets in the span of 5 seconds
I prefer the longer barrel of the agrip
Oh, my leveling gun on my zealot was a graia
Something about the receiver to me just doesn't vibe on agrip but the sound is on point
I take Graia with the 25% suppression node and then the 75% suppression from Keep Their Heads Down
you shoot for half a second and Reapers start cowering in fear
You should try exe stance on the braces since it changes spray pattern
curious how that would look on the Graia
I've been running it with Infiltrate for goofy amounts of suppression
kind of need it for repositioning
I like playing up close and stacking Reciprocity with it
This, actually killed very little
Because everybody hits the deck
yeah braced graia neuters all gunners
It's like a mini stubber
And half my bullets miss because it shoots so fast I can't adjust my aim in time
PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW
took a quick video for someone on here to show how I play it
Stripped down and duck n dive is always a good time
you can see in the opening the stupid amounts of suppression this baby puts out
Reapers just stand there looking stupid
starts at 2:20
oh weird the sound is off... must have been from editing the first bit
I'll have to fix that
Man, the dps on that beast of nurgle is terrible
speedload huh
well yeah, until I shoot it in the back
yeah speedload is actually really good for this build... you can constantly make use of it and blow through your ammo pool fast
You would love the idea I for weapon upgrades though
A "sidegrade" slot
Braced autos would get a choice for, among other things, a drum magazine
Double capacity, longer reload speed
Tradeoff stats pog
Offset it with speedload
Really malleable to playstyle you want
Be the dakka you want to be
god if they added something else to roll on weapons I'd lose it
please fix crafting FartShart
Got ideas like that for most weapons
Next month tm
🙏
Next month we'll hear about it before the hiatus until week before Christmas
I wonder why youtube fucked up the audio sync...
Heavy barrel for autoguns, less recoil, longer equip time
Almost sounds like stat based weapon customization they kinda wanted to do going into making darktide
Automatic trigger for infantry lasguns, less recoil, fully automatic fire, slightly less damage
Malfunctioning power cell for power swords, charged swings now set enemies on fire, but you cleave less targets when charged
What about for melee weapons
Chain weapons: refined diamantine teeth, increased cleave, less shred damage
oh now the audio fixed itself
k
if they added something like that I hope they'd add an additional difficulty
Blessed Motor: revving your weapon automatically suppresses nearby enemies
What about just instant activation lol
I have yet to think of a downside for that one
That also works xD
I was thinking more along the lines of the machine spirit of the chainsword being bloodthirsty as fuck for the heretics and making them know it
7m aoe bleed on activate
Zeal might actually really like that
So what's the bolt pistol gonna do while zarona exists
They held our bolter to manufacture standards so we're looking at 7-8 round mag
I made jokes with my friends that it's gonna be only gun with friendly fire
Hand cannon candidate??
Id honestly take glory hunter too and make a coherency focus target leader build
Too many thematic possibilities to not go for
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perfect example of the power of the big bonk shovel
no keystone builds work on vet right?
yes, although I'd argue they're a bit less fun
you only really need the starting node of Marksmen's Focus or Weapon's Specialist
combat medic veteran too stronk
I wish there was a way of seeing how much toughness you give to teammates in the scoreboard
thats what i focused on with this
it felt really good on 4 but i still gotta try 5
you should skip Catch a Breath
that's two free points right there you could spend on a keystone
much more bang for your buck
don't know what weapon you're using but you could also get deadshot
tbh true
catch a breath i never notice
i think the 2 upper toughness ones are way better
yeah its barely noticeable and just gets worse in higher difficulties when there's always enemies around
you're VERY close to doing a medic build as well with born leader and confirmed kill
if you want the best bang for your buck as far as giving toughness to friends though, you want Out for Blood
gives shitloads of toughness to your friends if you're in melee
i always thought out for blood was good but never used it much
there ya go! Target Down is a great one point wonder as well
and again, that's even more toughness for you and friends
it is VERY good
every melee kill is like 12% toughness
on top of all your other stuff you basically become a tank that PUMPS toughness to your teammates as long as you're in melee
that's the basis for my combat medic build and it is an absolute beast
its fun seeing how the DoW ver matches up with DT
do you run health toughness toughness curios
There we go! That's my battle medic build
I run one of each
It makes good use of all the stats
urs is probably better for highest diff stuff
Yeah it is definitely optimized
can keep teammates alive through just about anything
as well as itself
oh yeah honestly the game is "easy" enough to make any build work
as long as you're good at the base mechanics you can do auric damnation missions
biggest jump imo is 2 to 3
honestly its hard playing beneath auric once you start
the game feels so relaxing in comparison
4 feels like brain off fun challenge to me
honestly 5 might even be harder than auric sometimes just because auric usually has people that know what they're doing lol
competent teams really make a difference
yeah
i noticed how hard some early haz 2 missions can be
yeah the game definitely has a learning curve
once u learn specials patterns u can auto pilot
dodging and awareness are really the most important skills to learn
like melee combat on my vet is just mouse 1 over and over and spam shout
being able to dodge the 3 dogs and nets and mauler overheads coming your way is the part that takes skill
all the difficulty jumps have been really easy for me but 4-5 just seems like a nightmare cause something like a gunner will immediately shred you
gunners are a pain in the arse
like high intensity or mael 4 is great
my favorite builds have ways to work around them
otherwise yeah it sucks when one gunner catches you out and boom you're dead
feels like id have to play a loot more carefully in 5
it’s like i want more enemies but not the damage increase lmao
you just gotta be smart with closing in and slide a lot
but i havent really had time to build, as soon as i hit 30 with a char i swap to another
spam the dodge key and call it a day
preferably, split the jump and dodge actions to different keybinds
just don't get hit, easy
or install the mod that prevents sideways jumps
i have jump on alt
and then hammer the dodge key and put exactly 0.5 brain cells into dodging
I have my dodge keybind on my thumb button ever since I started
i put sprint on space cause you can’t sideways sprint and my pinky gets fucked holding the shift key for so long
i really do believe that survivability issues that don't come from disablers or positioning just boils down to not dodging a lot
and the default keybinds and their default behavior do not communicate how much dodges can be spammed
dodge count mod is super clutch
dt mods are a nice change of pace from “ah shit this really isn’t sanctioned again?” lmao
stamina regen is nice
the krieg outfit for vet look kinda meh? 😢
and this top make it look like i'm about to start a new golden era of pirate 
For me, its more or less keeping an eye out for threats like disablers since audio cues are just unreliable at times. Silent trappers n dogs really sucks.
dogs looking another way and then pouncing at you is particularly tilting
cuz i can't tell if it's doing a weird pause or preparing a pounce, and then it decides to pounce another way
though i'm used to it nowadays and it was just frustrating early on
I'm just glad they at least fixed it so you can dodge rager attacks in melee
seen so many pubs get surprised when dogs skip the pause phase and go straight to leaping 
guh
all about that i frame timing
Nets are the weirdest thing in darktide
Gotta get the right angle to dodge those nets while sliding
Yeah I'm pretty sure you can't iframe through them
hmm pretty sure u can
nah
maybe there's some leniency mechanic
but dodging into them will still get you netted
they seem to just skip the waiting to pounce animation/sound que entirely
and go from sprint to pound instantly
so far i've rationalized it as "ok dogs have this random behavior" and i can't tell whether i should like this behavior of dogs or not
i guess dogs are easier to push so i guess eh but i also feel that they didn't do this before
I kind of like that dogs kind of just forget the formalities and pounce your ass sometimes
Keeps things spicy
I just listen for the audio cue
hmm feel like I've been having a hard time hearing trappers besides when he release the trap sound cue
yeah I made a mental note as to always treat dogs as a hazard even if they are currently sprinting away from me
I don't know how this is not talked about as much, its pretty infuriating to throw a run over this lol
ohhh yeah i can not trust their reset timer at all
Yeah, hunting grounds needs to be treated with respect too
I'm seeing groups get fucked up way harder by that than before
I think they made dogs deal more upfront corruption now too or something
hunting ground not as bad for veteran with tac awareness lettting you spam ult (exe stan users get fucked as usual but its on you for using exe lmao)
Even if they get knocked off you right away you still get karked up a bit
yeah if you don't have yellow toughness afaik you immediately get some corruption from dog pounce
which will ruin your penance run if you're doing the no health damage thing I think
aint too bad if u group up since the pounces just shoves the dogs off your teams
just do it on sedition if your that desperate
which penance was it called?
On overwatch
Got it by accident along with the 0 health damage from any source once
Realised by the second to last airlock that I hadn't taken any damage yet and suddenly got super tense lmao
was thinking about this one
Tbh take VoC to a heresy LI and you will randomly get it
VoC makes it so much easier
I love losing multiple games because all the noobs decided to play auric and then the game doesnt load
Literally just watching someone try run away from a poxburster
Or shooting poxburster while his besfriend tries practice shoving .
I just got that one randomly in some auric maelstrom i was doing
didnt even realise until it popped up at the end of the mission lol
Could I get On Overwatch by dying at the beginning, like, by jumping of a ledge and having my teammates not revive me?
I'm trying to complete On Overwatch now. Would anyone be willing to run through a Malice mission with me doing this?
thanks melk
YOu should be able to get this one easily nowadays with the shout. I am not good at the game and got it way before the talent tree was a thing.
Just wait for a low int malice mission. Max out toughness regen, take shout and all defensive talents you can think of. Play defensively.
Laspistol which better to use?the MK2 or the kantareal
MK2 by far
the faster rate of fire more than makes up for the lower damage
MK2 faster rate of fire means more chance for crits which is also really important
And do they share blessing?
I saw player used it.maybe cause it faster when swapping.
Maybe can't take out mauler,crusher easily but other it sure fine
It's a good gun if you build around it. I prefer other guns in auric damnation just because they're more consistent but it's still very good if you take the right talents.
Maulers and crushers get the shovel 
Yeah I've used the MK2 as my main weapon in auric
it can work but I don't like having to rely on crits for a lot of my damage
and it struggles with dense horde
would probably still be great as a sidearm
So extra 5% crit chance help?or other perk much better?
I wouldn't turn down crit chance
I'm not sure about breakpoints
can't go wrong with flak/maniac as always
Blessing?what's should I put?
dumdum is good all around
ghost is really good if you're hitting headshots
raking fire and reassuringly accurate are pretty good too depending on how you use them
infernus seems cool because it synergizes with crits but the damage over time only really matters against bosses
between the eyes and speedload are useless
my personal one has dumdum and ghost
What should I do?
I changed experience to combat ability regeneration
Don't want to keep pox hounds
already have gunner on another curio thuogh
Yea change hounds
its just bad
corruption resist is literally a better hounds resist so
switch it to something else
What do you recommend?
i like stam regen
Never seen this before
rhats where the zealot stuffs the psyker nerds
Going extra toughness ain't too bad either
Like +toughness
There's a skull inside! Across the nearby bridge there's another room
Look up and if you see the body above the stacked crates you're in the right place
Climb to find the key
oh no
I'll keep that in mind nextx time
thank you
most likely that or stam regen
Ill check this out later,thank you for tip
no problem! enjoy!
i gotta say i've been enjoying running the female professional personality on my stealth vet
when she says "can you lot make any more noise!?" 
it's too bad that legally every Loose Cannon vet has to run voice of command
THERE IS ONLY WAR
OH.
"hold that pose, heretic" etc
FOR TERRA!
thats the loose cannon's one
gives unironic chills
i love shouting at a mutant so loud he get's a bit shy and stops moving
I WANT THESE KARKERS DEAD
no dying till i say so
i also love the rare voiceline when loose cannon sees a trapper
TRAPPER! I WANT HER DEAD
hes so real for that
Meds! There's a code for this too....
keep those callouts coming, maybe one day they'll be useful
Traxis something... SNIPAAHH!
I just realized today that the professional voiceline for exe stance is not uttering a spell when he says "CAMPUS WUMPISS"
but is actually saying "can't miss, won't miss"
which makes me immensely sad
Maybe that is a spell
What Curio blessings do people use? Like between Wounds, Toughness, Health and Stamina, which 3 do you go for normally?
Never wounds unless you're doing martyr zealot. Vet is good with one of each or substituting your health for a second toughness.
If you are running deadshot you should run 2 stamina and 1 toughness
for more pew pew power
Triple Stam Curios for maximum clown hours
1 Stam, 2 Toughness if I'm pretending to be a normal person
Wounds curios are only ok if you're still learning/new to the game or running Martyr Zealot. Otherwise do some combo of
1 HP, 1 Toughness, 1 Stam
2 Toughness, 1 Stam
2 Toughness, 1 HP
I find it funny that Cadia seems to be the only planet that has unique customization options, with the eye colors and one of Vets voices
Nothing else matters.
I think you have to be from the mining or industrial world to get the blackened eyes
but im not sure
You say that to my Psycher, Veteran and Zealot who were all from Cadia
Yeah it almost seems like a concept that they abandoned after starting with how few there are.
They'd most likely agree with me.
Why do people recommend the green kantrael lasgun over the brown one
Wouldn't the brown one one shot headshot almost everything
I can only 2 shot headshot a lot of things with the green one
If its the 12 I got it to hit several nice 1s HS breakpoints I couldn't with the others.
I like using the infantry Mk4 I think currently? The middle one.
The 4 seems like the worst
Just got this from a mission. I've never used Laspistol before. And advice for it?
run n gun
hipfire
The Kantrael XII Infantry Lasgun has higher per shot damage but a much slower fire rate. The difference in damage per shot between it and the Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun is only notable on a few breakpoints that turn 2 shot kills into 1 shot kills. The overall DPS/TTK on the Kantrael Mg1a is better for boss damage and killing multiple targets quicker but the difference isn't that crazy. The Kantrael XII is still a solid lasgun imo
The Kantrael IV is the weird one. Super fast fire rate and lowest per shot damage so it feels like a lovechild between the Recons and Kantraels but she's a fun gun still
Possibly, again I haven't tested it out.
It breakpoints ok for alot of things and the higher firerate is nice, but not high enough to be fully wasted which the fast one would be for me.
I mean, use whatever you want
I only use the green one cause it's green
Not cause it's good
It might be the 1a I use then. Infantry something.
awesome, thanks
just to compare the damage values of them
it's not much of a difference tbh
meanwhile on the IV
if you like shooting REALLY FAST the IV is a very fun gun
oh i thought it was a bigger difference
Yeah the XII needs a buff to damage imo but it's still ok as is
The Mg1a just outdoes it on DPS
And has better TTK when firing into larger crowds of elites
been a while since I've played, is it me or have they nerfed recon lasguns?
maybe I'm just underleveled for malice rn
regarding the existing hestia event is there any UI element that display info? I only noticed some random mats dropping post match as a level increase
@hallow parrot this one person made recon lasguns pretty decent even against crushers if you wanna read their wall of text
There was a brief period post-patch a while ago where changes made them overpowered and the devs nerfed it after 21 days reducing their damage against enemy armour types by a bunch. Recons struggle on unyielding and maniac damage, can't harm Carapace and don't do very well against Flak compared to other weapons. This is sorta to give you an understanding of just how broken overpowered the Recons were for that short time span that the devs responded THAT quickly and THAT harshly, even despite how strong the Plasma, Columnus Infantry Autogun and Revolver are
They had much better crit strings and that combined with Shock Trooper meant they were firing long, high damage volleys into crowds and could fire for very long periods before needing to reload while having probably the best ammo economy to pair with it
The Recon Mk VIIa is ok now and probably comparable to the Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun (though a bit weaker imo)
Recon Mk II may be one of the weakest guns in the game right now
Recon Mk VId works with a particular clown build
look closely at the ammo counter during this Crusher kill
13 ammo spent
This was the Recon Mk VId I used when I originally made that clip
I have a much better one now and I can kill a Crusher in as little as seven ammo spent
Talent tree set up if you're curious

but also a disclaimer
This gun requires you to be able to aim heads consistently to get value out of the Headhunter blessing
This gun requires you to purposely move into the frontline to get the attention of ranged enemies and dodge their shots so Duck and Dive gives you more stamina regen during fights
This gun requires you to balance Deadshot uptime with your stamina bar to combo with Headhunter for consistent crits
This gun requires you to ping specials/elites consistently to get the most value out of Focus Target + Target Down for restoring toughness/stamina
All this combined gives you a gun that can melt most things you run into while using very little ammo for each target killed
Played so much Darktide, it actually got me accidently spamming space in other shooters
Relatable
This is a build that will make you suffer because this requires 3 stamina curios all with +3 stam for a total +9 stam from curios with another +1 stam from the talent node under Confirmed Kill near the top of the talent tree
Your survivability is entirely reliant on how well you can dodge, positioning, your awareness and target priority
There's no Voice of Command or Infiltrate get out of jail free card
follow in the clown's footsteps at your own risk
^Honestly the best advice that can be given to someone that wants to run this build 😄
A Plasma, Revolver or Columnus Infantry Autogun is going to be much easier to play in matches and allow you a less strict talent tree set up too
I swapped to revolver and went VoC after the latest update... feels the most balanced around teamplay IMO
I've always used recons on my veterans, really stable and decent damage so they could just clear entire hallways. Not sure how they've fluctuated in power across updates but I've always preferred them
but as of last games I just found my ttk to be insane in malice, even on ragers
like dump a mag on one and dude is still going
Try running my talent set up with your Recon
p sure my low level doesn't help but it's weird
Ragers fall over
If you're still leveling the class don't worry too much
Talents/blessings/perks are things to look into more at level 30
yeah yeah I knocked it down to 2, malice can be a crapshoot in the best of days
I usually wait til I'm 15 or 20 to go malice but I got greedy
recons have especially poor armor damage vs maniacs
so Onslaught is a big help there
but honestly i think it better to just have a melee to handle them or hit em with a nade
I agree, I save my ammo for big targets
Onslaught and Rending Strikes are two of the biggest reasons my Recon can carve through anything and everything I shoot at
Taking the frak grenade with 50% bonus dmg + the grenade regen talent can save runs
The low maniac damage isn't really noticeable on most targets tbh. Only muties are tricky and even then you can just go melee to cut them down
If you get a nice Recon Mk VId with Infernus IV, Headhunter IV and +Maniac damage perk you can kill all maniac type enemies with a solid TTK
+Caparace and +Maniac are my two favourite perks to run on Recon Mk VId
for now I'm going with a columnus instead, at least I can run elite point defense reliably
Yeah Columnus Infantry Autogun is very, very strong in the current meta
takes a while to get used to its aimpoint but once you do it's p. reliable even at medium range
never been one for bolters or plasmas so I'll see what I settle on this time around
Have you tried using the shotgun? I'm still not 100% sold on it yet, but for certain runs I think it's decent
I've used it on occasion yeah, nothing against them but I don't feel like I'm really effective with them either
the zealot ones are super fun but I'm shit with them lol
shotgun good esp agrippina
xD My issue with them is that they feel like absolute garbage against armored enemies
I like high ammo, dump-on-elite guns. The ogryn mg is godly for that.
and the recon worked really well for me too but I might take a different gun this time around. It's fun.
The Agrippina shotgun is hilariously good, slugs go crazy
That rocks
jesus
Lmaoooo
I haven't tried shotguns lately, might give them a whirl
Agripina Shotgun firing the slug shot with Manstopper blessing and the 100% crit chance from Weapon Specialist keystone
Infinite Cleave that will just cut through everything
Wish I could share a pic of the shotgun I have but it won’t let me 😫
good afternoon fellow rejects
good afternoon
goob afternoon
I must go but have one last funny video
ello m8
oh hey manstopperr memes
That's great xD
psykers are great
Do you think if I finally take the Falter blessings off these helbores Hadron will stop putting Falter on EVERY FUCKING HELBORE LASGUN THAT I MAKE?!
No. No she won’t 
Most winners quit before they win big

Alter the weapons blessing when it’s blue to falter so hadron can’t put it on herself

shotguns fun
shotgun stronk
Lawbringer with manstopper and scattershot go boom
granted it was an uprising lo-int
my problems with shotguns start happening when the rate of elites exceeds my rate of reload
that'll do it
watch out meta
I take all the reload talents and just use special ammoo
no but come to think about it I should really grab that reload while full perk
Fattest clutch
nade go boom
when your team just ignores you 
guys i got a question. Which is better:
(second, changing language to eng)
Why cant i post pics there? ;d
I think you need to chat for a bit so your role upgrades
its like an anti spam feature
ah i see
so i will just make it short and easy in written form
Vet accatran fast firing, build with:
- Infernus + Headhunter
or - Deathspitter (6,5% power for 3,5 sec) + DumDum
dum dum/infernus + headhunter
Headhunter is must have
okay after trying out infiltrate it's pretty fun
especially with a knoife
its like playing knife zealot except without the obnoxious shouting and the fact that not everyone immediately hates you
stacking movement speed buffs is funny
Headhunter and either dumdum/infernus is the best choice by a large margin. Also worth noting that the recons in general are quite undertuned at the moment and so you might not want to invest heavily into them.
Some fucking brainlet on Reddit arguing with me that Recon is better than CIAG

There's a lot of those
Do you want some of my videos?
Wow, what heresy is this?
is it made of rubber or something lol
it makes a squeeky noise when it hits crusher
it gives it armor
soloing the game kinda vibe
https://i.gyazo.com/3736dede7bbdb38e43a235a58cf660ab.png when its just almost perfect 
It's not a terribly good gun at the moment, you're better off waiting for positive balance changes (in addition to the crafting rework) anyway
Hey guys is charging a plasma gun good?
Unless you wanna Alpha strike an unaware crusher or something
99.9% of plasma shots should be LMB
And that last .1% you can choose
yeah, 99.99% of all plasma gun shots I do is just aim and LMB, the 0.01% is charged by accident lol
charge rate is a dump stat on that gun
Technically the charge rate stat does affect your primary fire
But only how long it takes to come out
Dude I'm a clown but that joke is too funny for me to tell LMFAO
CIAG kills things much, much faster than every single variant of Recon and even my funny build doesn't keep up with a good CIAG user
Tip to get there attention: Spam ping the shit out of the enemies, the noise aggrivates them and makes them obliged to help so you stop with the repeated pinging
whenver anyone spam pings in my games i vote to kick them
it's usually the vets who just discovered the tagging keystone and overuse it
Your complaining about a boost of damage on enemies?
it's better to prioritise specific threats rather than spam ping every enemy in sight
And yknow a boost that then gives additional damage to all allies near the person who killed said tagged enemy?
Damage is damage cuh
that damage increase doesn't offset how annoying it is
especially when they bind ping to scrollwheel
Small price to pay for a damage boost
it's not going to make or break the game, if they spam tag every rager in a pack before the first one has even died
Oh my brain processed it different to what you were saying
i mean for sure it's useful when they actually use it how its meant to be used
thats not what i mean
I thought you were saying you got aggrivated with the pinging in general mb
aren't you supposed to bind to attack (if you change the bind at all)?
THATs what I Thought you were saying-
nooo i wish people pinged more genuninely
it's just the spam pingers that get on my nerves
that spam in the elevator after sprinting there stuff like that
i play on controller lol so the tag is easy for me to reach
same
sometimes I spam ping when people take an extra 5 minutes to run around the room trying to pick up every resource
but yeah I need to play exec stance for penances and will probably change ping bind to attack for that
unless I go Agri Brauto instead of CIAG
I got responsibilities outside of Darktide, please don't waste my time picking up every scrap of diamantine
if thats taking them 5 minutes then understandable
i'm usually the one that picks up resources because everyone else misses them but if people are waiting or too far away i pull back
yeah I'm usually ahead of the pack on most of my builds so I go around collecting as much crap as possible
Taking 5 mins to get resources is way too slow, it just means they don’t know what they’re doing
If u play enough you’ll have likely memorized all the material spawns
yeah like it's fine to go check a big container or try to find some ammo while making your way to the next room
but I'll sometimes get folks who have to scan every corner of every room before they get on the elevator
"GO THERE!"
The only areas where it might take a long time to get resources are the hanger rooms in hourglass
What enforcer station
Chasm station ?
it's the one that doesnt have the train hanging off the ledge
Ok magistrati oubliette
oh thats it
still get people investigating every corner of that room in my games sometimes
It’s just a matter of memorizing material spawns
bricked :(
ok wait my next one is better though
should i take no respite or surgical
No respite makes more sense to me
This was the advise I got about a week or two ago.
Strange
It has a meter for stopping power
Does it just apply a bonus for only damage
Actually do muskets have falter
SP is both dmg and stagger
falter is useless don't bother
I actually use falter on one of my lasguns so I don't have to deal with shotgunners blasting me backwards while I hit them
the problem with no respite, it seems, is that the lucius kills them instead of staggering them
no respite isn't that great because HB is a 1 tap focused weapon class
swapping it to surgical
no respite only works for enemies u don't 1 shot
Find some not great ones in the bottom of your inventory and upgrade them perhaps
meh, ill do it later
A few times I've gotten lucky with stuff I win from games and I just upgrade it once and strip a free t4 blessing off of it
actually i am stuck with this lasgun I use because I have ghost on it right now which feels great
but it's the blue lasgun with the folding stock
It deals very little stagger so it just doesn't stop enemies when I shoot them in the head
yeah this and melk are basically where i get my good blessings from
i dont like throwing away plasteel dicerolling for blessings
What I do is check melk or brunt and if there's nothing check my inventory for stuff I win from games
If nothing I'll just buy stuff from brunt until I get one or two over 370
my friend says this game is a gatcha game but i almost never interact with the crafting system
other than occasionally swapping blessings or things like that
i used to think the shovel was garbage
then i swapped out one of the perks for flak armor
uh for ogryn i mean
just had a veteran in my auric damnation game with an overall score of 40 who did nothing all game
"I can't do anything. I'm a ranged spec and you guys don't keep them off me."
like... we have an Ogryn, we have a zealot, I'm playing melee vet...
I primarily play Exe MF, he just bad
we are literally cutting you a path
dude was terrible
couldn't handle the two infested who walked past us and tickled his ass into the ground
Like...cmon even when spec'd for ranged, Vet has Iron Will and amazing melee
dude had the easiest job in the world and still ran out of ammo despite only killing 5 specials 
Vet is still good in melee even without any investment
just bonk em
No Respite isn't that good because it's mostly just helping with bayonet stabs and I don't think the extra damage is helping on any breakpoints with it even then
Could swap to Surgical instead and it'll be golden
ok @full nacelle I made the build much better and I tested it on Damnation. I guess being thrown into a high intensity mission was a good test xD
Errr why no Dumdum on the Laspistol?
Or Power Cycler on the sword?
cuz i never used them before
its just a fun themed build I made
idk what the meta of the game is, i just made sure it worked on diff 5
Oh ok. Well Laspistol without Dumdum is really painful, takes a lot of shots to take down specials
And afaik Power Cycler on psword is mandatory because it kinda hits like a wooden paddle when uncharged
Which is why I just prefer Rashad because I'm too
to power charge every few swipes
i noticed chained hits on a vanilla psword feel inconsistant if they stay charged or not
sometimes i get a full combo sometimes its 1 swing
there's a timer on it, also it's not per swing but per hit
so if you don't hit anything with your first charged swing, the charge stays on your sword until you actually hit something
if you get a full combo without power cycler it means you were swinging at air
i dont really understand dmg vs stopping power
Is stopping power more important for elite enemies and specialists or something
yard work done, bath taken, coffee get, time to kill some heretics
amen
in a word, yes
there's raw damage
and then there's stopping power/penetration, which can be said to be how much of that raw damage goes through a unit's armor type
Noice! Just a few tips. 1. Dumdum instead of Between the Eyes 2. Power Cycler 4 instead of Wrath and unyielding to flak 3. The laspistol REALLY wants crit chance so you'd be much better off taking Deadshot instead of Inspiring Presence which has minimal effects
stopping power is usually on ranged weapons, penetration on melee, ranged weapons stopping power also includes stagger power
Should I priortize stopping power if I wanna kill stuff like scab gunners and whatnot
on pretty much every weapon you can you want higher damage and stopping power
stopping power for units with flak and manic armor types, yes
the dump stat is usually stability or mobility
Idk the minimum percents needed to hit the breakpoints
though you might find the first one easier to use
personally I'd just use the first one until you find a better one
low stability on lasguns make me go "this shit is lasers why does it even have recoil?!"
im still struggling with some penances. specifically armour bane and adept assassin.
which modifiers work best to get armored krak kills?
and weak spot kills is just headshot after swapping weapons right?
any scab enemy with flak armor count for krak kills
though, if you really want, I'd suggest playing a maelstrom with scab enemy, melee only, no ammo pickups
they'll have maulers, and crushers galore, you won't even be able to grenade enough of them
what is that one called? and is it auric only?
I don't remember the modifer code, but I have seen it in regular too
for the weapon specialist, I'd suggest a high damage ranged weapon to guarantee the headshot kill after you swap weapons but also keep in mind that melee crit headshot kills count as well, when you swap from your ranged weapon to melee
i have known about it, but still never actually seen it,, unlucky timings i guess.
my main setup is revolver and chainsword
I play weapon specialist melee infil vet by default, so it was really easy to get
armorbane took a while, but it was easy enough, just play enough games and I grenade enough crushers and bulwarks
Which Autoguns share blessings, or do they all share the same pool?
what do i need to change on this bad boy?
all infantry autoguns share blessings
all braced autoguns share blessings
all headhunter autoguns share blessings
three seperate groups from each other
i think weapons within a type all share
Okay so its by that type, cool
so braced, infantry, ect
nothin', give it to me
Is there a site that has what shares what?
ya its confusing
kidding, uh, I'd suggest change crucian to surgical, and carapace to manic or elite
pins should have weapon guides by class
poggers. thank you sir
if you hit an enemy with your special, swing again, but then get interrupted by an attack before it lands, then that interrupts your attack chain and cancels the special even if you still had a charge left
after months of trying for decimator 4.
Melk.
Least that grind is over
trying to do this is so painful
because every single time I find a reaper and let them start shooting at me my team instantly turns and begins hunting it
I feel like a lot of these shitty penances would be easier if we had solo mode
private game being locked to having friends:
Everything after "Mk (I,II, etc.)" is the weapon's "class". Weapons with the same class share blessings, so e.g. the Antax MkV Combat Axe will share blessings with the Rashad MkII Combat Axe because they both have the class "Combat Axe" but not the Atrox MkIV Tactical Axe because "Tactical Axe" is not the same class as "Combat Axe"
By the way, I tried running stripped down to make it "easier". Guess what? It doesn't count since your being immune to ranged doesn't count as dodging the bullets. I could be wrong, but I tested it yesterday and the counter didn't go up.
can you report people in this game?
pretty sure you gotta go to forums for that or whatever
If have evidence contact support.
sure do!
I rarely see toxicity
mostly ragequits but some arent even RQs, just shitty servers or game crashing
#🎒support-issues , player reports
u can also block ppl in game and it wont match with them i think
playing a gun ™️ veteran, shooting a beast of nurgle. it turns to face a melee attacking ogryn. the ogryn starts turning the beast away from me so i can shoot the weak spot
he stops turning it away from me and walks into my shots a couple times
we kill the beast soon after
it blows up. i get shot off the map
i'm tired anyway but was hoping for a better game
Really?! Geez ok so then the game really just wants you to run around a Reaper
no offense to the ogryn btw. nobody could have known i was the one dealing the most damage (because not even i was doing a lot of it)
just a pain that that turn of events happened
gonna hit bedge though. very tired
Yep, I ran stripped down and went into a mission at 439/500. I "dodged" a bucket load of reaper bullets during that. Finished the mission, still at 439/500.
<-mfw that happened
I'm not sure if it's bugged or if that's intentional
It's really hard to tell with Fatshark and Darktide

Yeah, I thought I was doing a Megamind moment, running stripped down and duck and dive to make the penance easier. Sadly, that was not the case
At least now I can stop running a Recon with Stripped Down and just run around in front of Reapers normally
it sounds like something suicidal but these penances are silly
thats what I did for the reaper penance yesterday
found a party on discord, found a lone reaper in damnation
im just lettin it happen
wait so Stripped Down does work?
yes
u gotta stripped down

