#veteran-class

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bitter turtle
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They feel boring

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You can take everything you mostly want but there's not much else beyond that

hearty panther
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vet the only class where mfers look at a node like reciprocity and say "lol mid"

bitter turtle
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Doesn't feel like tradeoffs or sacrifices to get powerful skills

frank ocean
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Or like 2-3 of the current talents got combined together

bitter turtle
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Only thing I rly want changed on the tree is moved demo stockpile #1

tall torrent
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My wish is for suppression immunity to be a baseline trait for veteran

bitter turtle
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I don't voc

tall torrent
bitter turtle
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And I literally lose points by not going voc

frank ocean
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I mainly dislike how many of the pretty much must haves for the class are in different branches.

bitter turtle
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Even if I go full right or left

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Bc 1 extra tax talent and having to pick up demo team later

frank ocean
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Having to "waste" levels moving tree's is just annoying

bitter turtle
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Means switching lane to coc would have saved 1 pt

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Actually insane that switching lane save 1 pt

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Bc voc position on tree is so good

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Ignoring what it even does as a skill

frank ocean
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I mean it does when you have the revive talent

tall torrent
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I think both

Nerf CD to 40s, nerf tac awareness to -5s/specialist kill

bitter turtle
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Noo that nerf infil 😔

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Jk

tall torrent
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Exe kind of shouldn’t

bitter turtle
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I think infil is low key extremely strong

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So it's probably ok

topaz lance
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I sure hope we'll get a big balance patch with the update

tall torrent
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I just hope the crafting update is good

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Crafting is next update right?

frank ocean
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I hope so

bitter turtle
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I think in pugs

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Its better than voc

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For carrying

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Infil I mean lul

white minnow
bitter turtle
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I fixed it

topaz lance
bitter turtle
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Typing on phone

frank ocean
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Also full heal/overheal for toughness

bitter turtle
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No booli

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😔

white minnow
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it is ingrained into my mind

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it is too late

somber axle
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Did they say what would be in the crafting update?

hearty panther
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voc is fukken stupid

elder fiber
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pickaxes

frank ocean
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Dont think so

topaz lance
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I hope they nerf voc and plasma finally

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please

somber axle
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Have not had a chance to see anything about the Skulls event but drip fed info from whatever I see on discord

bitter turtle
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I like infil for pug bc on half the events in the game you can just tell ur team to sit their ass in a defensible position while you can easily do the entire objective solo

frank ocean
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I'm not super into Plasma, tbh

topaz lance
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plasma outclasses it atm in my opinion

elder fiber
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plasma should really have power and efficiency shifted from lmb to rmb

bitter turtle
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Ya but you gotta admit it's easier to do hacking objective with infil

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Lol

bitter turtle
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Like the one where they pop.up all over the place

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I just tell my team

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Defend at the exit

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And I just can do all of them ezpz

hearty panther
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plasmas biggest sin right now is that it's fukken boring

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its just the new shredder ap

bitter turtle
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I think they are equal personally but

frank ocean
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I just dislike having to manage heat, if I wanted that I'd play Psycher lol

somber axle
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Please bring back a reason to use charged shots on plasma I am begging

bitter turtle
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Idk both are extremely busted

tall torrent
frank ocean
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Though I will say it perfectly fits the gun/lore

tall torrent
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Go wild

white minnow
hearty panther
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make plasma hurt me again

white minnow
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i seethe as a psyker main

frank ocean
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Auto vent for lmb?

somber axle
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Lemme see Vets accidentally overheating and exploding in quickplay again

white minnow
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if you attempt to shoot at 100%, it won't explode you

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it just vents the gun for you

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you can never explode with the plasma if you just press LMB

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the only way to explode is to do a charged shot at 100%

somber axle
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I yearn for the days of silly Vets with Plasma understanding they will die and running into the nearest crowd to explode poxburster style

bitter turtle
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Just left click

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U can never blow up

elder fiber
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yeah the fact you can't self own from lmb overheat is so clownshit

hearty panther
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hell revolver shoots so fast on draw sometimes i do it by accident

frank ocean
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Wait you dont?!

bitter turtle
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You only blow up if you charge

somber axle
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Plasma uncharged shots can't explode you

frank ocean
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That seems unintentional lol

somber axle
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Only charged shots

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If you hit 100% heat and try to fire an uncharged shot it just auto-vents first

white minnow
frank ocean
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Maybe I'm also just trash at using it then lol

wild vortex
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I have recently discovered Weapon Specialist Vet and I'm fucking LOVING it

white minnow
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never press RMB with plasma and just call it a day

wild vortex
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it's so absurd

bitter turtle
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Plasma cleave ig

frank ocean
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I've mainly been using the Kantrael XII lasrifle

bitter turtle
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100 cleave meme

wild vortex
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you can run into entire hordes of elites and take them all down solo

tall torrent
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2

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6.5 cleave
Gunner is 4 mass

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Crit doesn’t impact cleave

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Shotgunner is lower mass

serene bough
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shotgunner conga lines with the zarona is euphoric

tall torrent
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Unless it somehow has a never-described crit +cleave function baked in

white minnow
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at least in that respect plasmagun is the same

bitter turtle
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Ya was gonna say

white minnow
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booli

bitter turtle
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You have to be blind to miss plasma

tall torrent
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And I just wanna say

twilit breach
bitter turtle
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Sure but bullet is planet sized

tall torrent
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Why does crosshair size get changed by UI scale in setting

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Why is that a thing

elder fiber
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b/c its really funny

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(idk why lmao)

white minnow
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they forgor to divide by the scale for the crosshair spread calculation

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lebron james would never

elder fiber
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and idk I think at highest level ws revolver is probs better yeah, but ws plasma is still a complete snoozefest and the gun really needs a redesign

bitter turtle
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Me left click ooga booga

twilit breach
bitter turtle
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Oh no

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Abe

hearty panther
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heat system (that you dont have to manage)
alt fire (that you dont have to think about)
long reload (that you rarely trigger in combat)

wanton dawn
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I don't think that but I am willing to try whatthefuck_heresy

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since i have a very similar build

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Should be possible. A bit on the late side on my end but i should manage

tall torrent
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like, look at this crosshair size difference

hearty panther
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the year 2000z?

wanton dawn
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It is 23h24 at my location rn

somber axle
wanton dawn
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Am GMT+2

somber axle
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Funny times for Zealot and Veteran demolishing conga lines

wanton dawn
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Zulu is GMT+0 kk

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So that'd be around 22h00 on my end

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already put in my agenda

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Just freaking phone agenda KEKW_ogryn

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Outlook and teams is for my work computer

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On my home one it is "fuck if I know"

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Well, I am working from home tomorrow

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Monday friday for me

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Maelstrom. Didnt do twin in a while

bitter turtle
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Mael probably better representation of normal gameplay

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If you're comparing the two

wanton dawn
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Also plasma is not great on boss. Also I don't do 2-man often whatthefuck_heresy

bitter turtle
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Yeah

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But plasma is more acceptable to shoot at trash I think

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At least groups of them

wanton dawn
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Ill probably bring that.

bitter turtle
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Tho 2 man might favor plasma

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Denser crowds since only 2 killing vs 4

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100 cleave meme

wanton dawn
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Well, I am the worse player in that scenario KEKW_ogryn

bitter turtle
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Lul

wanton dawn
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I did a lot of bullshit with bayonet but I don't usually do solo. Special killing the run annoys me

candid agate
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what are the best blessings for lucius mk ll

hearty panther
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weight + surgical

candid agate
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thanks

hearty panther
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not really a lot of options

candid agate
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all of them are either salvo or just bad

hearty panther
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actually

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salvo is not ... entirely unlikely to be good

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but youre gonna have to do that math yourself cause i dont wannaaa

candid agate
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im too lazy

hearty panther
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well something to know is salvo is incorrect

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it's shots 2, 3, and 4, not 3 and 4

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there's definitely some counter-synergy with Weight/Surigcal granted

wanton dawn
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Finally finished those 500 kraks kills

hearty panther
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im so close

frank ocean
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I think I'm at like 200/500

wanton dawn
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Am gonna have to play other class now if I want those sweet skin I'll never use

hearty panther
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i want the poses

frank ocean
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Hey I use those skins pretty frequently

wanton dawn
frank ocean
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The Zealot ones in particular

serene bough
wanton dawn
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This is peak skin anyway

frank ocean
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I just really like the Zealots chest armor that has your hands wrapped in like scriptures

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Its so 40k

serene bough
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i want that atoma armor but i dont want to level as zealot or psyker

frank ocean
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Why not? Using all 5 of your class slots for Vet shop rolls?

serene bough
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no i just like playing vet the most

serene bough
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i have an oggy leveled but the other two toons are sub 30

frank ocean
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I've played Vet Zealot and Psycher, currently I think I alternate between Zealot and Vet as my fav

midnight totem
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Vet or Psyker

serene bough
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i just need the krak penance then ill level the other toons

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but i really dont wanna play psyker

frank ocean
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Even when the dangling scriptures block my view when using the quickdraw revolver, I still use it XD

tame lodge
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I definitely don't rev up my chainsword and block

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So the scriptures are dangerously close to the chains

frank ocean
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Probably, but the Emperor protects!

balmy flume
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Right, time to do a wee bit of skulls collecting before my travels.

bitter turtle
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Bayonet rager 2 tap

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Jk

delicate wagon
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This was plasma on latest mael, got a lot of quitters or dc's. Honestly I don't find plasma boring at all, maybe because Vet is my second least played class. PEW PEW is fun

somber axle
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The silly ASS title is making quickplay weird now LOL

serene bough
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i still dont have it

somber axle
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People figured out it doesn't count as a death if you disconnect while down so they just do that if they end up on their knees and then reconnect a bit later to play it out

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Rinse and repeat for however many downs they take throughout a match

serene bough
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im aware

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i just play too recklessly to attempt to get it

balmy flume
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Anyone missing the decollation counter window on Mourningstar?

serene bough
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a classic

sturdy zephyr
somber axle
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LMFAO

misty finch
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Only downside of bolter is the magazine size

sturdy zephyr
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And it just 15!

misty finch
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You can make the reload pretty quick

slow spade
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15 -> 150 magazine

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ez fix

misty finch
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150 magazine but 20 second reload

elder fiber
rocky tendon
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Quick question, how valid would it be to slap skullcrusher and trauma (+impact on hit) on a devils claw sword instead of shred/rampage/cleave blessings?

elder fiber
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p strictly worse b/c rampage alone gives power (not dmg, it lies) so is doing both those blessings better for one slot

rocky tendon
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thank you, been really trying to find a justification for bringing skullcrusher on any devils claw sword.

tall torrent
elder fiber
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yeah that could def work

tame lodge
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Does Invigorated scale with extra stam regen from curios?

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Because if it's always 20%, I might not have found a weird build

hearty panther
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its the same effect

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so imagine it was a 4th Curio with +20% stam regen

tame lodge
hearty panther
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oh wait i forgot how it worked

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hmmm

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i bet it does

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i say this with no proof

serene bough
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source: trust me bro

tame lodge
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Shock trooper + Deadshot, swap to activate Invigorated, swap to ranged loop
D-tier build

hearty panther
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but im super sure bro

tame lodge
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Perma 20%

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Sad

feral stratus
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Hey question, what does "weapon alternate firing" mean? Aim down sights or the special action?

tame lodge
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F-tier build

feral stratus
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Am honestly confused on what does it refer to

tall torrent
bitter turtle
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I still get 20 percent back with +atam curios

tall torrent
bitter turtle
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Oh

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Then pretty sure no

tall torrent
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it's always 20% total stamina

bitter turtle
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Cause I have stam regen curio perks

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Ya

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Still 20%

umbral scaffold
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pistol tide

full nacelle
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minus the 69% (nice) first target, I'm very happy

magic trout
full nacelle
magic trout
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Yeah.. in time 😖

full nacelle
tame lodge
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Just when you think you can use Invigorated to replenish stamina just so you can Deadshot Shock Trooper the VIIa

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Oh well, it is what it is

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Target Down won't suffice, so plz don't recommend it

sturdy schooner
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are there /any/ vet weapons that're better than psword mk VI for its universal capabilities? or is it stillt he top option

full nacelle
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Thank you! What do you run as far as curios go?

tall torrent
full nacelle
tall torrent
tall torrent
full nacelle
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easy enough!

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ah... oh well!

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I'll keep rolling while I play it

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preciate the info ❤️

dire olive
sturdy zephyr
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Its heavy! But it get the job done.

sturdy zephyr
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Axes are nice too

sturdy schooner
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i do feel i have better survivability with combat shovel but that horde clear is

dire olive
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It's a trap

sturdy schooner
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SO BAD

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but the killing power of the psword is also so so so convenient

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melee snipe out elites in a crowd, clear like a horde in just 3 swings

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its the kitchen gun of melees

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ill try to build a rashad then

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and give it a try

tall torrent
sturdy schooner
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the knife makes me vomit

tall torrent
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Why

sturdy schooner
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im bad at it and dont know how to make it good

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consistently sniping heads with its very small attacks is

tall torrent
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Uncanny strike

sturdy schooner
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not easy for me

sturdy schooner
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which version is that?

tall torrent
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Mk6

sturdy schooner
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hm

marsh helm
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if its one without t4 power cycler and Surge i find PS to be a chore to always have to charge up every second in auric maels

sturdy schooner
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I think I have a decent Mk VI I can try to get at then

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any improvements

sturdy schooner
tall torrent
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First target is the most important stat on knife

sturdy schooner
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whats dump stat

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mobility?

tall torrent
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Mobility & penetration (to an extent)

sturdy schooner
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how's rashad's horde clear?

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heard someone recc it

bitter turtle
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Best in the game

tall torrent
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About as good as u can get

bitter turtle
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Prob

sturdy schooner
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alright when it comes to it and im not broke ill take a look at one of y'all's pinned guides for how to build it

trim steppe
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Great horde clear and can kill everything in the game. Maulers, crushers, and monstrosities included

magic trout
full nacelle
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I want you guys to know that the stupid melee tank/medic build from yesterday is working and is very stupid and fun

tall torrent
full nacelle
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yessir!

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infinite toughness

tiny junco
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alright

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unpopular opinion

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if you are under level 25 and doing damnations and heresys you should not expect to be carried and should also expect to be mollywhopped if you throw the game

sonic river
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im in love

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ammo kinda meh

sturdy zephyr
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My ammo like 46%

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So as long others over 75%

trim steppe
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Ammo stat does not matter on the CIAG

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Like, at all. 0% ammo is still 50 in the mag and 500 reserve

sturdy zephyr
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my ol reliable. blesing are s#

oblique copper
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Do i have to get the final blow on tagged targets for the focus soldier penance?

full nacelle
tiny junco
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I mean it's fun to carry until I get 360 dumpsterscoped by a funny net lover

sturdy schooner
sturdy zephyr
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Never touch damn untill best stat n weapon for my operative.

sturdy schooner
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i can only pray that after the machine god themed update our crafting system is not as jank

sturdy zephyr
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When the update will be?

wild vortex
sturdy zephyr
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whats should i change to?blessing n perk?

tiny junco
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If i see one more damn filled with lvl 14s I'm actually going to send someone a 14 zetabyte zip bomb of Brian Griffins book

somber axle
# wild vortex There's a reason I call it Heresy Hell

Unironically the average player in quickplay generally gets better as you up difficulty. More competent players with proper gear at max level the higher you go. Heresy is full of fresh alts or people still learning how to play at max level

wild vortex
late hatch
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Even malice is has a lot of high level players that are pretty bad but super toxic about stuff

tiny junco
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I'm not toxic I just don't like people who don't have common sense

somber axle
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The toxicity increases the lower you are in difficulty too LMFAO

wild vortex
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Because it's the point where people who don't know fuckall think they know enough

somber axle
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I've only had like 2 or 3 toxic Darktide players and they were all in Heresy when I was still new to the game

hearty panther
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the great filter

somber axle
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The worse a player is, the more insecure they are and willing to blame anyone for their own shortcomings

wild vortex
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I now play Aurics only on Ogryn and Vet and I admit I'm a dumdum xd

somber axle
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Difficulty will naturally filter them out because they'll never survive long on higher difficulties

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you don't need a ranked system when Nurgle will sort them out for you

hearty panther
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but also the game is hard, you just gotta keep playing, the hatin is pointless

wild vortex
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Ye. Plus there really is an RNG element when the game decides that your team is just gonna get fucked and that's that

hearty panther
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takes a while to be comfortable with just soundcues, its all time

sturdy zephyr
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Herey and malice. Especially new to the game.

wild vortex
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I don't think Malice is near as bad as Heresy. Malice you just go into it that nobody knows wtf they're doing

somber axle
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Malice is easy enough that it doesn't matter if the whole team is clueless

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they'll still probably be fine

tall torrent
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they worded it as "we're working on testing the crafting changes part of the update and will share detail later in a blog"

wild vortex
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The worst game I've ever had in my now 150 hrs of Darktide was a Heresy mission while levelling Zealot

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Like holy fuck that was terrible

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11 revives + 7 rescues I did

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And there was a lv 100 and a lv 80 on my team

tall torrent
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it could be worse

wild vortex
tall torrent
wild vortex
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HOW

tall torrent
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new mission modifier

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"heretic within"

wild vortex
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Eh? Haven't heard of that one

tall torrent
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your 3 teammates continuously attempt to compromise ur position

wild vortex
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Lmfao

tall torrent
digital mango
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Oh my Emperor they fixed the krieg outfit

tiny summit
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4 days after Elden Ring DLC

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FF14 giving their players 1 week

digital mango
tiny summit
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Mods

digital mango
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Ah

iron marten
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Gonna get my teeth sunk into the DLC for a week at least lmao

full nacelle
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What are the best perks/blessings for the autopistol?

tall torrent
full nacelle
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So yeah, I'll try to make it work lol

tall torrent
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It’s really bad

wild vortex
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Why does the highest rated Zealot guide on games lantern recommend it

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Is it just a bad site

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Or does the gun somehow work for Zealots

tall torrent
full nacelle
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so now I want to see how true that is

tall torrent
wild vortex
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He has another one for the Stealth version

full nacelle
wild vortex
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I personally tried the auto pistol and felt it sucked balls but idk, maybe I'm bad at using it?

full nacelle
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they said it wasn't great but it was good for quick suppression on a melee build

white minnow
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prob me and exploit and others

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bad gun but y'know you can make it work by using its stagger and quick swap times

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certainly something that i would never ever use as a main weapon

tall torrent
wild vortex
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Well good to know I can junk that site for builds

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Guess I'll just have to muddle along on my Shouty

tall torrent
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There’s a reason I’m taking all this time to come up with a comprehensive veteran guide

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And it’s not because I’m lazy (I am lazy)

pseudo fiber
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Bless you for that btw

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Has it got a snazzy name

wild vortex
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Yeah Ogryns have the Ogrynomicon, Vets have your work, but for Zealot I can't find fuckall that can help a newbie like me

hearty panther
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all u need is faith

tall torrent
pseudo fiber
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That's a good one

tall torrent
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It’s not like veteran where if u build for a breakpoint you’ll hit it with very few caveats attached (usually to build stacks of a certain blessing) almost all the time

oblique copper
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in my experience all of zealots conditional perks are things that you activate in the course of normal play XD

tall torrent
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You can activate them naturally but it’s not quite “on demand”

wild vortex
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Hmmm so I may as well fuck around and find out

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I made a not-terrible Rashad on that character for levelling, and whatever ranged weapons I get

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The Rashad should carry me to 30 probably

tall torrent
wild vortex
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Ohh

tall torrent
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It’s easy to roll and super strong

wild vortex
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I see, will try that tomorrow

tall torrent
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Well, easy by veteran standards staregryn

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U just need Skullcrusher on it

wild vortex
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Today I'm at a sleep clinic to get plugged in in 100 places so my sleep can be recorded

tall torrent
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Preferably Hammerblow as 2nd blessing but Skullcrusher is main

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You want Skullcrusher IV as well

wild vortex
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No slaughtering heretics, only bedge

tall torrent
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III is not nearly as good as IV

wild vortex
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There is apparently a steam guide for the Crusher

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And this is pinned in Zealot chat so I'm hoping it ain't shit

tall torrent
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@wild vortex here’s how Skullcrusher works

wild vortex
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Yeah I know about scrusher, use it on Ogryn shield

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Bromentum + Scrusher shield is thumbsup_ogryn

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That 4th stack enables 2-tapping

tall torrent
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For perks

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I think maniac is good (because mutants)

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Carapace/elite is good too since crushers & maulers are the only enemy u don’t kill that fast

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Flak didn’t seem to change breakpoints

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Elite gets u nicer bulwark breakpoints because they got buffed

wild vortex
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Gonna try to find a decent crusher from shop that I can try while levelling

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6 levels to go on Shouty Sitgryn

full nacelle
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What are the dump stats for the Mk3 power sword?

tall torrent
full nacelle
rocky jacinth
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I'd try to get as much mobility as possible myself since psword has such terrible dodges

tall torrent
rocky jacinth
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Maybe not, but it's a stat that actually does something on the thing when you're running around spamming charged swings

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Completely anecdotal but I had a much better time with power sword once I swapped to one with 80 mobility, before I got my current god roll

gilded wraith
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Recommendations other than Falter to Surgical? Infested to Elite maybe?

tiny summit
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Go into the Psyk and see what enemies don't die to 1 tap. Carapace isn't bad on HB3

sturdy schooner
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decent starting rashad?

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the guides mentioned headtaker is better than decimator but I dont have headtaker IV yet

tall torrent
violet prairie
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Would anyone by chance like to help me acquire make every shot count?

sturdy schooner
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yeah both mentioned headtaker is better

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so headtaker III even better than decimator 4?

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I have 3 but not 4

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fortunately it rolled on the two recommended perks

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unarmored and cara

tall torrent
scarlet smelt
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Suggestion?

tall torrent
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Wrath to power cycler

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Either perk to elite

sturdy schooner
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thats aa beautiful power sword

velvet storm
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lol

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A mutant managed to push me into an enemy spawn

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One of those areas behind a bunch of barricades enemies usually climb from

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I spawn killed a bunch of pox hounds

midnight totem
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I love frag bombs on the ogryn

pseudo fiber
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is defense a dump stat on shovels? I'm guessing yes

vagrant sail
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less defense = less dodges.

pseudo fiber
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Mobility gives you dodges defence reduces push attack cost

vagrant sail
vernal sundial
#

which power sword do y'all prefer?

full nacelle
#

I like 3, easier to use and can focus more on doing my thing rather than combos

sturdy schooner
#

6

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extremely versatile can put out insane single target damage while keeping up with the busted horde killing power of any ps

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i tried out rashad

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at first it was a lil weird but eventually it felt good

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heavies dont feel as meaty to me tho

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whereas I could one or two shot mutants and most things with power sword push attack rashad takes

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a /while/ to chop things up with heavy

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mayhaps im using it wrong

midnight totem
#

I like 6 on a melee vet

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3 on a ranged vet

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also me: I think I'll cap off the night with a relaxing maelstrom ogryn run. Make sure nobody goes down. Easy progress on my dream team penance

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my psyker with no enemies around: blows himself up

velvet storm
#

should i try to get a better one

vernal sundial
tough tiger
#

iirc the shock maul is just like a stun baton, for less lethal purposes

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meanwhile the actually deadly one is the power maul

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why are we getting the shock maul when we're here to kill and not maim?

radiant chasm
pseudo fiber
#

The enforcers have them and we need whatever we can get

radiant chasm
#

This is a weird quirk you wouldn’t know unless someone told you

sturdy schooner
#

why tf woul that be the case lmaoo

radiant chasm
#

So flamers, dreg ragers, and muties take more damage from lights idk why

sturdy schooner
#

thats so jank gahaha

radiant chasm
#

It is what it is

full nacelle
#

What are the best perks for the power sword/

midnight totem
#

power cycler

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BM/Sunder

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first one is mandatory

full nacelle
#

perks though

midnight totem
#

oh right

#

uh

radiant chasm
full nacelle
#

I think carapace is good right?

midnight totem
#

maniac can enable mutie oneshots

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carapace can enable double taps on maulers and crushers

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unarmored can enable heavy swing one shot headshots on dredge gunners

tall torrent
#

U can hit it with elite

full nacelle
#

right now mine has carapace and weakspot damage

midnight totem
#

Yes, you get most overall bang for your buck with elite

full nacelle
#

gotcha! thanks guys

#

now if I could just find that elusive power cycler 4...

midnight totem
#

do test it in the psykanium of course

sturdy zephyr
full nacelle
midnight totem
#

sounds like you need to take some skulls

#

for the emperor

full nacelle
#

I took them already

#

and rolled them into nothing

#

LMAO

sturdy zephyr
#

Back to malice farming

midnight totem
#

Stay faithful, then you can be like me. I found a 380 power sword from brunt today. Blue with BM2. I rolled power cycler 4 on it.

sturdy zephyr
full nacelle
#

so true

#

blood for the emporer

sturdy zephyr
#

3 powered swing are game changer

midnight totem
#

Actually I would give you guys this power sword if I could, because I already have a superior 380 power sword

sturdy zephyr
#

Even 2 already so much different

full nacelle
#

my power sword is a 356... but it DUMPED cleave targets and nothing else

#

so I'm into it

midnight totem
#

nice

hidden torrent
#

BBL Drizzy btw

#

Maybe my event was bugged today but I finished the event in 4 hours after work

tall torrent
#

Especially if u use BM weapons

full nacelle
#

does anyone else not enjoy playing Ogryn?

#

like they feel slow and I don't like how I have to aim down at everything because tall

sturdy zephyr
#

Never try it

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Melee build look awesome and good imo

full nacelle
#

I know they're tanks but when I play melee I want to be zooming all over the map killing stuff

tall torrent
dawn garnet
tall torrent
#

I mean
Low SP and high stat = farm blessing/sell

#

It is what it is

dawn garnet
#

is this more to your liking

tall torrent
#

Very funny build but

dawn garnet
#

no scattershot bad i know

tall torrent
#

Scattershot is pretty meh on Agripinaa shotgun

#

If that was Lawbringer it’s basically 10/10

dawn garnet
#

i dont have any other t4 blessings

#

and i wanted more number

rigid pilot
#

No respite is very good

#

Consistent two shots on things that didn't die in the first

left crag
#

how do you guys think bolt pistol going to perform?

orchid hemlock
#

is this guy ok?

left crag
#

he's ready sir

sturdy zephyr
#

Agrapina slug shot dmg falloff really bad?

rigid pilot
sturdy zephyr
#

I have fire frenzy 3 on my agrapina. For next one what best bless to get?

velvet storm
#

What do you guys think about making it so there's a quick time event like the generators in dbd to get a pox hound off you

oak gorge
#

most people would still fail the qt event

dense spindle
#

Only if it kills you 30x times faster.

velvet storm
#

Yea but it would make it so its not a death sentence if you're by yourself

#

Or everyone else has a hound on them

oak gorge
#

also it would encourage speedrunners to zoom through with no consequences even more if disablers could be escaped solo

velvet storm
#

If someone is able to get through a mission by themselves like that then maybe they deserve it

dense spindle
#

Being caught? Yeah. Typically do deserve getting caught

oak gorge
#

aggroing everything on the map as a stealth knife zealot and hiding in invisibility while your team is dealing with everything else is not good play

velvet storm
#

You can't even do that though can you

#

There are checkpoints

dense spindle
#

Sometimes.

velvet storm
#

You need your team

oak gorge
#

you still get them sitting at the checkpoint spamming hurry up

finite carbon
dense spindle
#

Or you need them to die so u can keep moving.

white minnow
#

though the checkpoints are fairly sparse

velvet storm
#

Why wouldn't they just play with bots or solo with mods then

white minnow
#

who knows

#

but they do play in public games

oak gorge
#

they like to be annoying

finite carbon
#

I believe solo doesn't get you any resources, does it?

white minnow
#

i don't really think they're much of an issue though

dense spindle
#

Playing with bots solo ain't possible, and with mods u don't get rewards

spark acorn
#

They like to make it everyone else's problem

finite carbon
#

Cause it's like an offline mode?

white minnow
#

a quicktime event is just going to trivialize disablers even more

finite carbon
#

And you can't do bots cause can't do private games solo

white minnow
#

the game already cheats in your favor against dogs

#

e.g., your push has a longer range against a pouncing dog

velvet storm
#

Well if you're speed running then you're skipping all the resources anyway

#

I assume

spark acorn
#

You'd be surprised

dense spindle
#

Knife zealot? Eh

#

Not really

spark acorn
dense spindle
#

Edited to skipping, ye that's true

white minnow
#

and pushing the dog is itself the quicktime event

finite carbon
velvet storm
#

The shove against dogs is kind of dumb

#

It's too long range

#

My hands don't even touch them

dense spindle
#

Compensation for ping differences

#

I guess

velvet storm
#

One thing I really wanna see is tzeench enemies or gene stealers

#

But I doubt it

dense spindle
#

OR imagine ur scaring the dog cuz u just made ur hands into spikes that it could impale itself on and it flew away

velvet storm
#

Why they gotta go with nurgle probably the most boring chaos god to fight

dense spindle
#

I highly doubt anything other then nurgle showing up.

#

Gene stealers is going to be the strongest probably not, but it's not impossible but

finite carbon
#

Nurgle flies when

dense spindle
#

I don't see it.

velvet storm
#

Tzeentch has flamers and cool colorful shit

#

Khorne got red guys

#

Slaneesh is sex

#

Nurgle just fat dirty dudes

dense spindle
#

But because nurgle n tzeentch dislike each other, prob ain't happening.

velvet storm
#

I guess a new faction with genuinely different enemies is too much to ask of fatshark

#

They already don't like releasing new content

serene bough
#

Just give them 6 years and you'll get a teaser for another faction in 2 years

velvet storm
#

Even new nurgle enemies wouldn't be bad

#

Not just another annoying ass bomber

#

Bloat flies would be epic

#

Or toads

dense spindle
#

Teaser for darktide 2 that has no release date in 6 years.

velvet storm
#

Darktide is fun but even the new maps feel bland

dense spindle
#

Enemy psyker is my personal want.

velvet storm
#

It's all just dark underground shit

#

At least vermintide has real variation

dense spindle
#

It's not all underground dark shit

#

There's the surface desert... that's it

velvet storm
#

There's even that modifier

#

That makes it darker

#

Literally cannot see shit

#

Game is already dark enough

robust mesa
#

Have you tried turning your monitor on?

velvet storm
#

Might be somehow brighter than the modifier they have that makes the map darker

#

If my monitor was off

#

Maybe it's a problem with my stuff

#

But I've tried turning brightness up and it does nothing

robust mesa
#

Turning up your brightness doesn't always help, on older monitors this becomes more evident. You should be able to tweak your settings, or just press the ping button till you find an enemy bro.

#

God Emperor be with you.

raw steppe
dense spindle
#

Thought that u literally could see jack in lights out modifier

raw steppe
#

none of the other coop horde games feel even close to being as good as DT/VT gameplay wise

#

but FS as a dev is just so dogshit

velvet storm
#

Does global illumination make things brighter

#

I have that setting off

rigid pilot
#

With no global illum everything is just flat with no shadows

strange epoch
#

game drops this on me after a random mission

agile forge
#

That's not a bad levelling helbore

#

The bayonet is strong as fuck BTW, just bring a melee that can sweep wide and also kill Carapace. I love the shovel 7 with it, power sword 6 also always works

rigid pilot
#

Agile engagement

#

That's the whole thing

strange epoch
#

Ill try it on 4

placid portal
#

hoo boy looks like FS is getting ready to get their update rolling before their mandatory Summer Vaccations

rigid pilot
#

Another 2 months break out of their total 6 months break quota

dapper agate
#

Nice.

Not even sure how they broke this, the patch didn't even alter this skill lol.

rigid pilot
#

BESPOKE

#

But everytime there's stuff like this means the talent getting touched next patch

#

Seems to be exestance itself getting touched

untold mulch
#

I think at this point the code is a tumbleweed

rigid pilot
#

You can read it all on GitHub KEKW_ogryn

dapper agate
rocky jacinth
#

darktide code isn't spaghetti is non-euclidean

flint onyx
#

Hey, can we reach one shot break points on gunners without crits with the zarona? What stats do I need for that

sturdy zephyr
#

Weapon specialist,agile engagememt

#

Precion strike

flint onyx
#

Thank you thumbsup_ogryn

wanton dawn
#

That's more lasagna code than spaghetti

#

Layer of abstraction made this error happens whatthefuck_heresy

somber axle
#

I hope this signals either a revert back to letting Exe Stance reload instantly on ability use or a complete rework to the ability

frank ocean
#

Yeah the reload thing should come back imo

odd sparrow
#

Would love having instant reload again.

grand perch
#

i dont think they're going back to that again, its a nightmare to balance around

#

its fine on ogryn but easily gets busted on vet

forest blaze
#

Any veteran hype for update?

somber axle
#

Everyone and their mother and their grandmother is running Voice of Command

#

I don't think busted matters anymore

finite carbon
#

Me reloading 132 plasma gun rounds in 0.01 seconds whatthefuck_heresy

somber axle
#

If you add reload back everyone and their mother will still be running Voice of Command but grandma might try Exe Stance again

somber axle
#

She was beautiful and I want her back

craggy torrent
#

looking to play some las gun vet
what should i look out for?

river escarp
#

I had luck today

finite carbon
cursive ice
#

are those the stats we want? critical hit spot dmg?

finite carbon
#

But at the end of the day, plasma reigns king

tame lodge
#

It doesn't matter Uncle Ben
Helbore still not using ammo

sturdy zephyr
#

The automatic lasgun good? Or worst

tame lodge
cursive ice
#

is the la lasgun still middle of the road/good

#

ok gamers, so im looking at the guides pinned in this channel - and first off: super helpful and thank you to the ones that contributed that info.

However, im giga overwhelmed with the info. Does the game actually let you spec into all three trees? or do you have to focus on one early on?

#

If i want to push Squad Leader build, do i just basically lose out on the other trees?

dire olive
cursive ice
#

i want this:

#

but i dont want to miss out on this:

#

can anyone recommend a BIS veteran squad lead build video or guide, please?

dire olive
#

Just follow your heart chadgryn

cursive ice
sturdy zephyr
#

I think theres no problem.

#

You can try n error since no cost respec.

#

Squad leader build are common and easy to play imo

dire olive
#

There's also really no need to min max

#

Player skill is way more important than making sure you get the absolute perfect number of +5% damage nodes

sturdy zephyr
tame lodge
#

Remember to pick Iron Will, it's basically on the way to Focus Target

sturdy zephyr
#

As others said, play your style. Fit your taste.

somber axle
#

The answer is yes but actually no and let me show you

#

This is a Recon Mk VId and if you look at my ammo counter I used 13 ammo to kill one

#

This is not Psykanium fluff, I do this in both Damnation and Auric Damnation

#

this was the original Recon I used to make that gif but I've got a slightly better one now so I can kill a Crusher in as little as seven ammo spent

#

this is the talent tree set up I use for matches

#

I should warn that while the Recon Mk VId can punch harder than most give her credit for, this is a gun that requires a lot more effort to run in higher difficulties than other weapons

#

I'm running 9 stam curios and taking the extra +1 stam node under Confirmed Kill near the top of the tree

#

I'm taking Duck and Dive then using it with Focus Target + Target Down to restore stam by pushing into the frontline and purposely baiting then dodging incoming ranged enemy fire while also pinging priority targets and shooting them down

#

I have to maintain consistent headshots with my Headhunter blessing in combination with Deadshot so the crit stacking feeds Shock Trooper and lets me spray so many shots for free

#

This is the clown dance

#

If this sounds ridiculous then you should definitely not do it because it absolutely is

#

You can run weapons like Plasma, Columnus Infantry Autogun and Revolver with far less effort and a less strict talent tree set up

balmy flume
#

If I may just still respect you for finding a way to make the weapon work

cursive ice
somber axle
#

Plasma, Columnus Infantry Autogun and Revolver will all be able to kill targets faster and perform better on DPS/TTK

#

Recon Mk VId, weirdly enough, excels at ammo economy

#

because when you can kill a Crusher in as little as 7 ammo spent

#

on a gun with 108 ammo per clip at max ammo

balmy flume
#

Laspistol is also a surprisingly effective weapon I find

somber axle
#

and 800 more in reserve

#

you're not running out of ammo unless you're spraying it into the trash

sturdy zephyr
somber axle
#

Recently I've been running my Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun for the skulls event

#

very fun clicking heads

sturdy zephyr
#

Same with me.that why im asking for idea,thoughts and tip for avaible guns to use.

somber axle
#

My current fav guns are:

Recon Mk VId #1 Clown's Choice Award
Helbore Mk II second fav gun in the entire game
Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun
Accatran Mk II Laspistol
Agripina Shotgun

#

but I generally cycle to all of the guns one way or another except for Plasma because I don't like how easy it makes the game

#

fun weapon but it makes things into a point and click adventure

#

But if you like the Recons and want to play like a normal person I'd recommend the Recon Mk VIIa

#

It plays very similarly to a Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun but has bullet cleave

#

Hardest hitting but slowest firing variant

#

It does consume 2 ammo per shot compared to both the Mk II and Mk VId consuming 1 ammo per shot but that's partially offset by the low fire rate

sturdy zephyr
#

This is intresting

#

I tried with kantriel. But got overwhelm and lost the mission maybe my skill issue.

somber axle
#

The Kantrael Infantry Lasguns struggle against Flak and are worthless against Carapace but Carapace is exclusively Crushers and the heads of Maulers so it's not that big of a deal if you bring a melee weapon to kill them or bring Kraks

somber axle
# sturdy zephyr I tried with kantriel. But got overwhelm and lost the mission maybe my skill iss...

It's hard unlearning how much the gun makes you want to tunnel vision down the sights and click heads. That was the first thing I had to rewire in my clown head because it blinds you to approaching specials/elites in other directions and leaves you vulnerable to poxwalkers sneaking up behind. As fun as it is to shoot, sometimes you have to swap into melee or drop a grenade and deal with things until you can create the space to begin firing again

#

Idk if that is your trouble too but if it is then it just means you will improve with practice

midnight totem
#

Also if you're being overwhelmed with a lasgun, consider using your melee

#

A infantry lasgun user will never not be overwhelmed

zinc timber
#

Cadia stands

languid dune
#

Any tips on Make Every Shot Count? I assume go with a revolver or something else with low ammo, make sure I hit shots and dump into a monster if there is one?

frank ocean
#

I did it with Zarona revolver

languid dune
#

I assume that I should also not have survivalist on as that will give more ammo?

frank ocean
#

And yeah, also don’t just dump your whole ammo stock in the beginning, pick up the little ammo tins to use for emergencies

somber axle
#

Easier to do with less shots to care about

#

I did mine with the Lawbringer Shotgun

midnight totem
#

Keep in mind that shooting Bulwark Shields counts as a miss

tame lodge
#

If you miss a shot
Hit two shots or more

midnight totem
#

And yes, don't have survivalist. You can get by this by emptying your reserve, switching to melee, and never swapping back, but its much more trouble then it's worth

runic topaz
#

Honestly with full nade talents and even a mid power sword youre strong enough to deal with everything and have enough nades for gunner gangs

runic topaz
frank ocean
#

Plus, more rounds fired means some more wiggle room if I did miss any shots

somber axle
#

I just played like normal but was more careful with my shots and ran missions over and over until I got it

#

The end segments of hordes just rushing at you on pretty much any map mean you can very easily empty whatever last few rounds are left in your gun

frank ocean
#

I got mine first attempt when I decided to go for it

#

Ended up being way easier than I’d thought

somber axle
#

Yeah it's not as tricky as it seems but it gets frustrating when allies kill a target 0.1 seconds before you fire

#

and you hit air

#

so it's partially being careful around your team too so you're not wasting shots trying to shoot a target they might kill first

frank ocean
#

Yeah

wanton dawn
#

I was trying to make an image joke on the double pomni but google image search was a very bad idea

midnight totem
#

She's uh. Very popular

tame lodge
midnight totem
#

Running the loner aura on that eh?

tame lodge
#

💀

untold pagoda
#

Is this why veteran is so angry all the time?

#

My boy veteran need a hug

wanton dawn
frank basin
#

@wanton dawn So you don’t wanna say it out because it’s worse than 4 chaos god?

rare bough
frank basin
#

Lasgun fan vs Autogun enjoyer

hidden torrent
rare bough
#

Why is the CADIAN angry?
That's a GOOD QUESTION raging

wanton dawn
#

That crap is like mixxing toddler yt with facebook minion. With porn subtext

hidden torrent
#

Everyone says the Vet penances aren't bad, but playing gun vet makes me feel like I'm being double fisted

#

Good thing I'm done with them tbh

hidden torrent
#

The real question is what do we do after we get the penance armor, the answer is to stop playing so no one sees it chadgryn

wanton dawn
#

Finished with vet pen yesterday. Longest was the krak one

#

Felt the longest

tall torrent
wanton dawn
#

I think longest was either krak or mf but i enjoyed mf

tall torrent
#

imo

hidden torrent
#

Krak one isn't too bad, imo killing 2500 enemies at 10 stacks of marksman focus made me want to die

#

I'd rather sit in traffic cones

#

Professionally

wanton dawn
#

For mf i just adjusted my ciag build into a pure glass canon

frank monolith
hidden torrent
wanton dawn
#

Getting 2500 wk crit kill in 3 games ? How long are your game whatthefuck_heresy

hidden torrent
#

True point

#

Fastest crab walker NA

tall torrent
#

weapon specialist is weakspot crit kill (elite / specialist)

hidden torrent
#

2500 kills in 3 games a lot of kills by any means

wanton dawn
#

Still is 833 kill at 10 stacks per game

tall torrent
#

could have farmed mercantile

wanton dawn
#

Yeah but farming for penance is the death of gaming

hidden torrent
#

I mean that's the content they wanted to add

wanton dawn
#

Getting the krak one was one of the most annoying thing for me since getting 15 game without down

hidden torrent
#

The 500 kraks aren't bad

#

If you build entirely around kraks and just use PS Plasma

#

The double grenade helps immensely

#

I got a lot done in one rotation of melee only

burnt raven
#

Krak isn't bad just do high intensity and hope you get scabs

#

throw one in the middle of a patrol and if you have the dual grenade perk can get a guarantee 8-10 kills

sinful swallow
#

Scab mostly melee no ammo = krak done super fast

wanton dawn
#

500 kills incite to use on flak enemies

burnt raven
#

also with the 2500 kills one aslong as you have the 10 stacks any type of kill counts for the most part

wanton dawn
#

In the end i just find annoying to farm 500 kill with a blitz that is poor at grouped kill, thats all

cursive ice
#

what do you guys think of this build? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader

"At the end of the day, though he's been ferried through hell on a ship that's ten thousand years old to some godforsaken, war-torn rock; though he deployed from high orbit with nothing but a grav chute; though he is one of ten million men and women snatched from his homeworld to fight a war he barely understands; though he has been given a weapon that fires small suns and may annihilate him as he fires because the knowledge of how it functions has been lost; though his company is supported by tractor-tanks that run on anything you can burn; though he wages war against a devouring hivemind, ravenous demons and hordes of hyper-advanced aliens with strange technologies and sorceries he never dreamed existed; no one will remember his sacrifice, there will be no records of his deeds, no glorious parades in his honor, and no remembrance of his name. All he will earn is a shallow, unmarked grave on a forgotten world untold lightyears from home.

Yet for all this thankless sacrifice a Guardsman is a man, just like you. He has no millennia-old genetic engineering, no prophetic leader, no miracles of faith. He has his lasgun, his orders, and those beside him. He is the Imperial Guard.

And he will hold the line."

GamesLantern.com

Veteran: Squad Leader. Veteran build by seventhcodex for Warhammer 40,000: Darktide.

cursive ice
#

whats them circles mean there cramer?

orchid hemlock
#

It means good and bad

wanton dawn
#

Red is stuff i would not take

orchid hemlock
#

🗿

#

Cringe and based

#

The duality of life itself

wanton dawn
#

The rending is for chainsaw. Not really great for plasma

cursive ice
#

ima use lasgun

#

or bolter to generate more testosterone

wanton dawn
#

Tbf i think this build has 1 free point

orchid hemlock
#

Which Infantry lasgun should I use out of the 3?

cursive ice
#

aight wahts that yellow circle mean cramer?

cursive ice
wanton dawn
#

It means i had no green in my color bar

orchid hemlock
#

U can't make me

terse idol
#

Or the 4

#

If you want carpal tunnel

#

😌

bitter turtle
#

It's bad

#

1 pt for a worse fire team is not worth

#

I would consider agile engagement with all the pts you save

Out for blood is also worth thinking about if you want even more toughness since chs is great on hordes. Demo team as mentioned by mrcraime is good, so you could do ofb and demo team or spend all 3 pts saved on agile

bitter turtle
cursive ice
bitter turtle
#

Right above the movespeed aura

#

25 percent dmg to your other weapon when you kill

cursive ice
#

is there a site where i can build out the skill tree?

#

like some mmos have?

bitter turtle
#

Yes

#

Gameslantern

trim steppe
cursive ice
#

nice bless up

#

preciate it fam

#

sorry i just picked up the game yesterday and the pinned pdf's werent cutting it

hidden torrent
#

The things I would do to have a hotshot volleygun

#

Or autocannon for Ogryn

cursive ice
#

are these good blessings for lasgun?

hidden torrent
#

You know I couldn't remember the name of the SpongeBob "7 mile spanking machine" so I looked up "SpongeBob spanking train" man was that a mistake

agile forge
#

Which lasgun

tall torrent
cursive ice
hidden torrent
#

Los Angeles

north raptor
#

yes the los angeles lasgun

hidden torrent
#

Yeah it's the Los Angeles pattern lasgun

cursive ice
tall torrent
cursive ice
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You guys get the feeling where you want to play darktide then you try and fall asleep?

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Or am I just narcoleptic

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ok I REALLY don't get the autopistol

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my graia braced autogun suppresses stuff 3 times faster

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what is the point of this gun?

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Nou

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Gottem

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yesn

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2006 throwback

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"Yesh"

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mood

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Which one

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it was better time

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2006 throwback

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Well I was 8

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So like

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i was watching porn on newgrounds at that age so yea

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You can just be a traumatized 8 year old

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i didnt understand who watch this

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i still cant

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now

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People are heathens tbh

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I hope they buff it back to being relevant

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los angeles lasgun 😭

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billions must seek god

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Perhaps one day

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billions must repent

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billions must denounce this degeneracy

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Idk bro if God was real he wouldn't make me take dooks so big

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billions must reunite with jesus at the golden gate of heaven

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god give u battle

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u fight it alright

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cuz u are 1 of his best soldier

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cadian

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God truly gives his toughest battles to his drunkest drivers

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truly

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also i would constantly bitching about cadia if i was a cadian

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on god no cap

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Fr fr

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Cadia is certified no Skibidi

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grimace shake

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gyatt damn

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Do the thug shake

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vine boom

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x100

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Vibe thud 2.mp3

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demand that the bloodthirster do the truffle shuffle, see what happens

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this chat devolving into slannesh trickery

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denounce it aaaaaaaaaa

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repent

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am i the zealot?

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i love zealot chat

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Slanesh can't trick me all I care about is flexing

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even worse, tricked by khorne

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zealot chat dont even have true zealot

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only false shepherd

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commissar should have shot zealot chat

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Khorne can't trick me either I'm way too handsome

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right now

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best chat ever, the best chat ive ever seen folks - that's what they tell me

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so is mingling with xeno counted as sodomy?

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Does it fuck you in the ass

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hmm