#veteran-class
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vet the only class where mfers look at a node like reciprocity and say "lol mid"
Doesn't feel like tradeoffs or sacrifices to get powerful skills
Or like 2-3 of the current talents got combined together
Only thing I rly want changed on the tree is moved demo stockpile #1
My wish is for suppression immunity to be a baseline trait for veteran
I don't voc

And I literally lose points by not going voc
I mainly dislike how many of the pretty much must haves for the class are in different branches.
Even if I go full right or left
Bc 1 extra tax talent and having to pick up demo team later
Having to "waste" levels moving tree's is just annoying
Means switching lane to coc would have saved 1 pt
Actually insane that switching lane save 1 pt
Bc voc position on tree is so good
Ignoring what it even does as a skill
I mean it does when you have the revive talent
I think both
Nerf CD to 40s, nerf tac awareness to -5s/specialist kill
Exe kind of shouldn’t
I sure hope we'll get a big balance patch with the update
I hope so
internal revenue service
I fixed it
probably
Typing on phone
Also full heal/overheal for toughness
Did they say what would be in the crafting update?
voc is fukken stupid
pickaxes
Dont think so
Have not had a chance to see anything about the Skulls event but drip fed info from whatever I see on discord
I like infil for pug bc on half the events in the game you can just tell ur team to sit their ass in a defensible position while you can easily do the entire objective solo
I'm not super into Plasma, tbh
plasma outclasses it atm in my opinion
plasma should really have power and efficiency shifted from lmb to rmb
And cryonic rod
Like the one where they pop.up all over the place
I just tell my team
Defend at the exit
And I just can do all of them ezpz
plasmas biggest sin right now is that it's fukken boring
its just the new shredder ap
I think they are equal personally but
I just dislike having to manage heat, if I wanted that I'd play Psycher lol
Please bring back a reason to use charged shots on plasma I am begging
Idk both are extremely busted
They should add a new blessing where u gain 1/2/3/4% power to charged shots per 1% heat generated 
Though I will say it perfectly fits the gun/lore
Go wild
it ultimately ends up not mattering because of the auto-vent for LMB and you'll be using the LMB practically the entire time
make plasma hurt me again
i seethe as a psyker main
Auto vent for lmb?
Lemme see Vets accidentally overheating and exploding in quickplay again
if you attempt to shoot at 100%, it won't explode you
it just vents the gun for you
you can never explode with the plasma if you just press LMB
the only way to explode is to do a charged shot at 100%
I yearn for the days of silly Vets with Plasma understanding they will die and running into the nearest crowd to explode poxburster style
What manage
Just left click
U can never blow up
yeah the fact you can't self own from lmb overheat is so clownshit
hell revolver shoots so fast on draw sometimes i do it by accident
Wait you dont?!
You only blow up if you charge
Plasma uncharged shots can't explode you
That seems unintentional lol
Only charged shots
If you hit 100% heat and try to fire an uncharged shot it just auto-vents first
nah it's intentional and it plays a unique vent animation
Maybe I'm also just trash at using it then lol
I have recently discovered Weapon Specialist Vet and I'm fucking LOVING it
never press RMB with plasma and just call it a day
it's so absurd
Plasma cleave ig
I've mainly been using the Kantrael XII lasrifle
100 cleave meme
you can run into entire hordes of elites and take them all down solo
2
6.5 cleave
Gunner is 4 mass
Crit doesn’t impact cleave
Shotgunner is lower mass
shotgunner conga lines with the zarona is euphoric
at least in that respect plasmagun is the same
Ya was gonna say
booli
You have to be blind to miss plasma
Plasma’s crosshair sucks
And I just wanna say
Sure but bullet is planet sized
they forgor to divide by the scale for the crosshair spread calculation
lebron james would never
and idk I think at highest level ws revolver is probs better yeah, but ws plasma is still a complete snoozefest and the gun really needs a redesign
Me left click ooga booga
heat system (that you dont have to manage)
alt fire (that you dont have to think about)
long reload (that you rarely trigger in combat)
I don't think that but I am willing to try 
since i have a very similar build
Should be possible. A bit on the late side on my end but i should manage
like, look at this crosshair size difference
the year 2000z?
It is 23h24 at my location rn
Yes but also what about conga lines with Agripina Shotgun?
Am GMT+2
Funny times for Zealot and Veteran demolishing conga lines
Zulu is GMT+0 kk
So that'd be around 22h00 on my end
already put in my agenda
Just freaking phone agenda 
Outlook and teams is for my work computer
On my home one it is "fuck if I know"
Well, I am working from home tomorrow
Monday friday for me
Maelstrom. Didnt do twin in a while
Mael probably better representation of normal gameplay
If you're comparing the two
Also plasma is not great on boss. Also I don't do 2-man often 
Yeah
But plasma is more acceptable to shoot at trash I think
At least groups of them
Tho 2 man might favor plasma
Denser crowds since only 2 killing vs 4
100 cleave meme
Well, I am the worse player in that scenario 
Lul
I did a lot of bullshit with bayonet but I don't usually do solo. Special killing the run annoys me
what are the best blessings for lucius mk ll
weight + surgical
thanks
not really a lot of options
all of them are either salvo or just bad
actually
salvo is not ... entirely unlikely to be good
but youre gonna have to do that math yourself cause i dont wannaaa
Darktide calculator for damage breakpoints against enemies. Developed by ManShanko.
im too lazy
well something to know is salvo is incorrect
it's shots 2, 3, and 4, not 3 and 4
there's definitely some counter-synergy with Weight/Surigcal granted
Finally finished those 500 kraks kills
im so close
I think I'm at like 200/500
Am gonna have to play other class now if I want those sweet skin I'll never use
i want the poses
Hey I use those skins pretty frequently
The Zealot ones in particular
also delicious
This is peak skin anyway
I just really like the Zealots chest armor that has your hands wrapped in like scriptures
Its so 40k
i want that atoma armor but i dont want to level as zealot or psyker
Why not? Using all 5 of your class slots for Vet shop rolls?
no i just like playing vet the most
i have an oggy leveled but the other two toons are sub 30
I've played Vet Zealot and Psycher, currently I think I alternate between Zealot and Vet as my fav
Vet or Psyker
i just need the krak penance then ill level the other toons
but i really dont wanna play psyker

Even when the dangling scriptures block my view when using the quickdraw revolver, I still use it XD
I definitely don't rev up my chainsword and block
So the scriptures are dangerously close to the chains
Probably, but the Emperor protects!
Right, time to do a wee bit of skulls collecting before my travels.
No respite :^)
Bayonet rager 2 tap
Jk
This was plasma on latest mael, got a lot of quitters or dc's. Honestly I don't find plasma boring at all, maybe because Vet is my second least played class. PEW PEW is fun
The silly ASS title is making quickplay weird now LOL
i still dont have it
People figured out it doesn't count as a death if you disconnect while down so they just do that if they end up on their knees and then reconnect a bit later to play it out
Rinse and repeat for however many downs they take throughout a match
Anyone missing the decollation counter window on Mourningstar?
a classic
I love plasma. A all rounder gun.
LMFAO
No need to wait 40,000 years
You can use bolter IN REAL LIFE NOW
Only downside of bolter is the magazine size
And it just 15!
You can make the reload pretty quick
150 magazine but 20 second reload
yeah its really just a preference thing, plasma psword illisi and duelling sword all boring for me rn but thats just me
Quick question, how valid would it be to slap skullcrusher and trauma (+impact on hit) on a devils claw sword instead of shred/rampage/cleave blessings?
p strictly worse b/c rampage alone gives power (not dmg, it lies) so is doing both those blessings better for one slot
thank you, been really trying to find a justification for bringing skullcrusher on any devils claw sword.
Skullcrusher + Rampage is actually pretty fun
yeah that could def work
Does Invigorated scale with extra stam regen from curios?
Because if it's always 20%, I might not have found a weird build

source: trust me bro
Shock trooper + Deadshot, swap to activate Invigorated, swap to ranged loop
D-tier build
but im super sure bro
Hey question, what does "weapon alternate firing" mean? Aim down sights or the special action?
F-tier build
Am honestly confused on what does it refer to
ADS
it's always 20% of total stamina
Scales
I still get 20 percent back with +atam curios
he means scale with stam regen perks
it's always 20% total stamina
pistol tide
Emperos has his chosen ones... 😭
the Emperor provides for all of us brother, in time
Yeah.. in time 😖
sorry for your loss... remain faithful 💪

Just when you think you can use Invigorated to replenish stamina just so you can Deadshot Shock Trooper the VIIa
Oh well, it is what it is
Target Down won't suffice, so plz don't recommend it
are there /any/ vet weapons that're better than psword mk VI for its universal capabilities? or is it stillt he top option
Thank you! What do you run as far as curios go?
Low first target & no unarmored 
is unarmored for breakpoints?
Stam/health/toughness
Yes, scab bruiser 1HS
easy enough!
ah... oh well!
I'll keep rolling while I play it
preciate the info ❤️
PS is nice for a bit of power fantasy but honestly when shit hits the fan the low mobility is a death sentence
Its heavy! But it get the job done.
Rashad
Axes are nice too
its just so good at everything but yeah i can see that
i do feel i have better survivability with combat shovel but that horde clear is
It's a trap
SO BAD
but the killing power of the psword is also so so so convenient
melee snipe out elites in a crowd, clear like a horde in just 3 swings
its the kitchen gun of melees
ill try to build a rashad then
and give it a try
You could also just play knife

the knife makes me vomit
Why
im bad at it and dont know how to make it good
consistently sniping heads with its very small attacks is
Uncanny strike
not easy for me
which version is that?
Mk6
hm
if its one without t4 power cycler and Surge i find PS to be a chore to always have to charge up every second in auric maels
it is a chore yeah but fortunately i have it
First target is too low
First target is the most important stat on knife
Mobility & penetration (to an extent)
Best in the game
About as good as u can get
Prob
alright when it comes to it and im not broke ill take a look at one of y'all's pinned guides for how to build it
It's arguably one of the hardest weapons to build right because it needs basically all stats and 4/4 attributes. But once built it is just about as good a melee weapon as you can have
Great horde clear and can kill everything in the game. Maulers, crushers, and monstrosities included
Which mod are you using to higlight properties and important text?
I want you guys to know that the stupid melee tank/medic build from yesterday is working and is very stupid and fun
Gloryhunter plasma + O4B Rashad?
alright
unpopular opinion
if you are under level 25 and doing damnations and heresys you should not expect to be carried and should also expect to be mollywhopped if you throw the game
Ammo stat does not matter on the CIAG
Like, at all. 0% ammo is still 50 in the mag and 500 reserve
my ol reliable. blesing are s#
Do i have to get the final blow on tagged targets for the focus soldier penance?
I like having newbies in my damnations games... Makes it more fun to carry
I mean it's fun to carry until I get 360 dumpsterscoped by a funny net lover
I believe it's 'Enhanced Descriptions' on Nexus
sob
Never touch damn untill best stat n weapon for my operative.
i can only pray that after the machine god themed update our crafting system is not as jank
When the update will be?
There's a reason I call it Heresy Hell
whats should i change to?blessing n perk?
If i see one more damn filled with lvl 14s I'm actually going to send someone a 14 zetabyte zip bomb of Brian Griffins book
Unironically the average player in quickplay generally gets better as you up difficulty. More competent players with proper gear at max level the higher you go. Heresy is full of fresh alts or people still learning how to play at max level

Even malice is has a lot of high level players that are pretty bad but super toxic about stuff
I'm not toxic I just don't like people who don't have common sense
The toxicity increases the lower you are in difficulty too LMFAO
Yeah I know. That's why I hate levelling through Heresy
Because it's the point where people who don't know fuckall think they know enough
I've only had like 2 or 3 toxic Darktide players and they were all in Heresy when I was still new to the game
the great filter
The worse a player is, the more insecure they are and willing to blame anyone for their own shortcomings
I now play Aurics only on Ogryn and Vet and I admit I'm a dumdum 
Difficulty will naturally filter them out because they'll never survive long on higher difficulties
you don't need a ranked system when Nurgle will sort them out for you
but also the game is hard, you just gotta keep playing, the hatin is pointless
Ye. Plus there really is an RNG element when the game decides that your team is just gonna get fucked and that's that
takes a while to be comfortable with just soundcues, its all time
Herey and malice. Especially new to the game.
I don't think Malice is near as bad as Heresy. Malice you just go into it that nobody knows wtf they're doing
most probably
Malice is easy enough that it doesn't matter if the whole team is clueless
they'll still probably be fine
they worded it as "we're working on testing the crafting changes part of the update and will share detail later in a blog"
The worst game I've ever had in my now 150 hrs of Darktide was a Heresy mission while levelling Zealot
Like holy fuck that was terrible
11 revives + 7 rescues I did
And there was a lv 100 and a lv 80 on my team
it could be worse

Eh? Haven't heard of that one
your 3 teammates continuously attempt to compromise ur position
June 25th (roughly 1 month from now)
Oh my Emperor they fixed the krieg outfit
Where do you see levels
Mods
Ah
This is the real kicker
Gonna get my teeth sunk into the DLC for a week at least lmao
What are the best perks/blessings for the autopistol?
Are u trying to seriously make it work or are u just memeing
I'm putting it on a melee build just to see how it feels... Gonna be using shovel 99% of the time
So yeah, I'll try to make it work lol
Basically
Don’t use it
It’s really bad
Why does the highest rated Zealot guide on games lantern recommend it

Is it just a bad site
Or does the gun somehow work for Zealots
What even is the highest rated zealot build on there
see that's what I said and I got people going "THE SUPPRESSION THOUGH"
so now I want to see how true that is
Who’re those people
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth
He has another one for the Stealth version
no idea just some folks on here lol
I personally tried the auto pistol and felt it sucked balls but idk, maybe I'm bad at using it?
they said it wasn't great but it was good for quick suppression on a melee build
prob me and exploit and others
bad gun but y'know you can make it work by using its stagger and quick swap times
certainly something that i would never ever use as a main weapon
Let’s see
- AI generated thumbnail
- no wrath on CS13g
- taking Bleed for the Emperor, but not taking Martyrdom
- Toughness gain node for IJ
- taking Shred but not going crit CDR or BP
- no ranged effectiveness from not having throwing knives
Yea.

Well good to know I can junk that site for builds
Guess I'll just have to muddle along on my Shouty
There’s a reason I’m taking all this time to come up with a comprehensive veteran guide
And it’s not because I’m lazy (I am lazy)
Yeah Ogryns have the Ogrynomicon, Vets have your work, but for Zealot I can't find fuckall that can help a newbie like me
all u need is faith
Infantryman’s Uplifting Primer
That's a good one
Zealot tree is weird because they have a lot of conditional & RNG based stuff
It’s not like veteran where if u build for a breakpoint you’ll hit it with very few caveats attached (usually to build stacks of a certain blessing) almost all the time
in my experience all of zealots conditional perks are things that you activate in the course of normal play XD
You can activate them naturally but it’s not quite “on demand”
Hmmm so I may as well fuck around and find out
I made a not-terrible Rashad on that character for levelling, and whatever ranged weapons I get
The Rashad should carry me to 30 probably
And tbh
Zealot beginner is simple
Crusher
Ohh
I see, will try that tomorrow
Today I'm at a sleep clinic to get plugged in in 100 places so my sleep can be recorded

Preferably Hammerblow as 2nd blessing but Skullcrusher is main
You want Skullcrusher IV as well
No slaughtering heretics, only 
III is not nearly as good as IV
There is apparently a steam guide for the Crusher
And this is pinned in Zealot chat so I'm hoping it ain't shit
This one is good
@wild vortex here’s how Skullcrusher works
Yeah I know about scrusher, use it on Ogryn shield
Bromentum + Scrusher shield is 
That 4th stack enables 2-tapping
For perks
I think maniac is good (because mutants)
Carapace/elite is good too since crushers & maulers are the only enemy u don’t kill that fast
Flak didn’t seem to change breakpoints
Elite gets u nicer bulwark breakpoints because they got buffed
Gonna try to find a decent crusher from shop that I can try while levelling
6 levels to go on Shouty 
What are the dump stats for the Mk3 power sword?
Mobility 51+
Cleave target full dump
Thank you wise one ❤️
I'd try to get as much mobility as possible myself since psword has such terrible dodges
Doesn’t have a huge difference in dodge distance
Maybe not, but it's a stat that actually does something on the thing when you're running around spamming charged swings
Completely anecdotal but I had a much better time with power sword once I swapped to one with 80 mobility, before I got my current god roll
Recommendations other than Falter to Surgical? Infested to Elite maybe?
Go into the Psyk and see what enemies don't die to 1 tap. Carapace isn't bad on HB3
decent starting rashad?
the guides mentioned headtaker is better than decimator but I dont have headtaker IV yet
Works, not a fan of decimator tho
Would anyone by chance like to help me acquire make every shot count?
yeah both mentioned headtaker is better
so headtaker III even better than decimator 4?
I have 3 but not 4
fortunately it rolled on the two recommended perks
unarmored and cara
Kind of
Suggestion?
thats aa beautiful power sword
lol
A mutant managed to push me into an enemy spawn
One of those areas behind a bunch of barricades enemies usually climb from
I spawn killed a bunch of pox hounds
I love frag bombs on the ogryn
is defense a dump stat on shovels? I'm guessing yes
i dont think it is a dump stat. press V on an item. I think defense gives dodges.
less defense = less dodges.
Mobility gives you dodges defence reduces push attack cost
ah you're right. sorry. was thinking of my ogryn then.
which power sword do y'all prefer?
I like 3, easier to use and can focus more on doing my thing rather than combos
6
extremely versatile can put out insane single target damage while keeping up with the busted horde killing power of any ps
i tried out rashad
at first it was a lil weird but eventually it felt good
heavies dont feel as meaty to me tho
whereas I could one or two shot mutants and most things with power sword push attack rashad takes
a /while/ to chop things up with heavy
mayhaps im using it wrong
I like 6 on a melee vet
3 on a ranged vet
also me: I think I'll cap off the night with a relaxing maelstrom ogryn run. Make sure nobody goes down. Easy progress on my dream team penance
my psyker with no enemies around: blows himself up
i wonder if i should run stam regen on my curios in that case cause using push attacks with it i obv run out of stam fast
iirc the shock maul is just like a stun baton, for less lethal purposes
meanwhile the actually deadly one is the power maul
why are we getting the shock maul when we're here to kill and not maim?
Combat axe lights do more maniac damage than the heavies
The enforcers have them and we need whatever we can get
This is a weird quirk you wouldn’t know unless someone told you
that is fucking weird
why tf woul that be the case lmaoo
The maniac adm is higher on lights than heavies xd
So flamers, dreg ragers, and muties take more damage from lights idk why
thats so jank gahaha
It is what it is
What are the best perks for the power sword/
perks though
Perks
I think carapace is good right?
maniac can enable mutie oneshots
carapace can enable double taps on maulers and crushers
unarmored can enable heavy swing one shot headshots on dredge gunners
U can hit it with elite
right now mine has carapace and weakspot damage
Yes, you get most overall bang for your buck with elite
do test it in the psykanium of course
Same with me.still stuck n broke no more mats to upgrde
we must stay faithful 🙏
Back to malice farming
Stay faithful, then you can be like me. I found a 380 power sword from brunt today. Blue with BM2. I rolled power cycler 4 on it.
Theres always more
3 powered swing are game changer
jesus! congrats
Actually I would give you guys this power sword if I could, because I already have a superior 380 power sword
Even 2 already so much different
my power sword is a 356... but it DUMPED cleave targets and nothing else
so I'm into it
nice
BBL Drizzy btw
Maybe my event was bugged today but I finished the event in 4 hours after work
It’s fast
Especially if u use BM weapons
does anyone else not enjoy playing Ogryn?
like they feel slow and I don't like how I have to aim down at everything because tall
I know they're tanks but when I play melee I want to be zooming all over the map killing stuff
#nukemars
It was low stopping power anyway
theres no pleasing you is there
is this more to your liking
Very funny build but
no scattershot bad i know
Scattershot is pretty meh on Agripinaa shotgun
If that was Lawbringer it’s basically 10/10
how do you guys think bolt pistol going to perform?
is this guy ok?
he's ready sir
Agrapina slug shot dmg falloff really bad?
Depends on what you are hitting, it doesn't really matter still one taps most things
I have fire frenzy 3 on my agrapina. For next one what best bless to get?
What do you guys think about making it so there's a quick time event like the generators in dbd to get a pox hound off you
most people would still fail the qt event
Only if it kills you 30x times faster.
Yea but it would make it so its not a death sentence if you're by yourself
Or everyone else has a hound on them
also it would encourage speedrunners to zoom through with no consequences even more if disablers could be escaped solo
If someone is able to get through a mission by themselves like that then maybe they deserve it
Being caught? Yeah. Typically do deserve getting caught
aggroing everything on the map as a stealth knife zealot and hiding in invisibility while your team is dealing with everything else is not good play
Sometimes.
You need your team
you still get them sitting at the checkpoint spamming hurry up
You need your team to die faster*
Or you need them to die so u can keep moving.
though the checkpoints are fairly sparse
Why wouldn't they just play with bots or solo with mods then
they like to be annoying
I believe solo doesn't get you any resources, does it?
i don't really think they're much of an issue though
Playing with bots solo ain't possible, and with mods u don't get rewards
They like to make it everyone else's problem
Cause it's like an offline mode?
a quicktime event is just going to trivialize disablers even more
And you can't do bots cause can't do private games solo
the game already cheats in your favor against dogs
e.g., your push has a longer range against a pouncing dog
Well if you're speed running then you're skipping all the resources anyway
I assume
You'd be surprised
Also this explains so fucking much, I knew I'd got away with so many shoves
Edited to skipping, ye that's true
and pushing the dog is itself the quicktime event
Now if only it worked that way against trappers
The shove against dogs is kind of dumb
It's too long range
My hands don't even touch them
OR imagine ur scaring the dog cuz u just made ur hands into spikes that it could impale itself on and it flew away
Why they gotta go with nurgle probably the most boring chaos god to fight
I highly doubt anything other then nurgle showing up.
Gene stealers is going to be the strongest probably not, but it's not impossible but
Nurgle flies when
I don't see it.
Tzeentch has flamers and cool colorful shit
Khorne got red guys
Slaneesh is sex
Nurgle just fat dirty dudes
But because nurgle n tzeentch dislike each other, prob ain't happening.
I guess a new faction with genuinely different enemies is too much to ask of fatshark
They already don't like releasing new content
Just give them 6 years and you'll get a teaser for another faction in 2 years
Even new nurgle enemies wouldn't be bad
Not just another annoying ass bomber
Bloat flies would be epic
Or toads
Teaser for darktide 2 that has no release date in 6 years.
Darktide is fun but even the new maps feel bland
Enemy psyker is my personal want.
There's even that modifier
That makes it darker
Literally cannot see shit
Game is already dark enough
Have you tried turning your monitor on?
Might be somehow brighter than the modifier they have that makes the map darker
If my monitor was off
Maybe it's a problem with my stuff
But I've tried turning brightness up and it does nothing
Turning up your brightness doesn't always help, on older monitors this becomes more evident. You should be able to tweak your settings, or just press the ping button till you find an enemy bro.
God Emperor be with you.
it's absolutely nuts because FS has a stranglehold on the genre lol
Thought that u literally could see jack in lights out modifier
none of the other coop horde games feel even close to being as good as DT/VT gameplay wise
but FS as a dev is just so dogshit
Doesnt it make things darker
With no global illum everything is just flat with no shadows
That's not a bad levelling helbore
The bayonet is strong as fuck BTW, just bring a melee that can sweep wide and also kill Carapace. I love the shovel 7 with it, power sword 6 also always works
Ill try it on 4
hoo boy looks like FS is getting ready to get their update rolling before their mandatory Summer Vaccations
Another 2 months break out of their total 6 months break quota
Nice.
Not even sure how they broke this, the patch didn't even alter this skill lol.
BESPOKE
But everytime there's stuff like this means the talent getting touched next patch
Seems to be exestance itself getting touched
spaghetti code?
I think at this point the code is a tumbleweed
You can read it all on GitHub 
Yeah, spaghetti code be like.
darktide code isn't spaghetti is non-euclidean
Hey, can we reach one shot break points on gunners without crits with the zarona? What stats do I need for that
Thank you 
That's more lasagna code than spaghetti
Layer of abstraction made this error happens 
I hope this signals either a revert back to letting Exe Stance reload instantly on ability use or a complete rework to the ability
Yeah the reload thing should come back imo
Would love having instant reload again.
i dont think they're going back to that again, its a nightmare to balance around
its fine on ogryn but easily gets busted on vet
Any veteran hype for update?
Everyone and their mother and their grandmother is running Voice of Command
I don't think busted matters anymore
Me reloading 132 plasma gun rounds in 0.01 seconds 
If you add reload back everyone and their mother will still be running Voice of Command but grandma might try Exe Stance again
Yes but also imagine Boltgun going full auto into a boss and then when it hits empty slamming Exe Stance and refilling it instantly to keep the full auto bombardment going. Or doubling the crazy burst of Agripina Revolver. Instant reload to keep the volley going for tapping targets with Zarona. Fully reloading your shotguns when you've fired them dry, etc.
She was beautiful and I want her back
looking to play some las gun vet
what should i look out for?
I had luck today
I mean those weapons would certainly syngergize well
are those the stats we want? critical hit spot dmg?
But at the end of the day, plasma reigns king
It doesn't matter Uncle Ben
Helbore still not using ammo
The automatic lasgun good? Or worst
Not good, avoid the Mk2
is the la lasgun still middle of the road/good
ok gamers, so im looking at the guides pinned in this channel - and first off: super helpful and thank you to the ones that contributed that info.
However, im giga overwhelmed with the info. Does the game actually let you spec into all three trees? or do you have to focus on one early on?
If i want to push Squad Leader build, do i just basically lose out on the other trees?
Worst in the entire game 
i want this:
but i dont want to miss out on this:
can anyone recommend a BIS veteran squad lead build video or guide, please?
Just follow your heart 

I think theres no problem.
You can try n error since no cost respec.
Squad leader build are common and easy to play imo
There's also really no need to min max
Player skill is way more important than making sure you get the absolute perfect number of +5% damage nodes
Early till 30 you can play middle. Or theres build on the website you can search.
Remember to pick Iron Will, it's basically on the way to Focus Target
As others said, play your style. Fit your taste.
Ok hold on let me tell you a story
The answer is yes but actually no and let me show you
This is a Recon Mk VId and if you look at my ammo counter I used 13 ammo to kill one
This is not Psykanium fluff, I do this in both Damnation and Auric Damnation
this was the original Recon I used to make that gif but I've got a slightly better one now so I can kill a Crusher in as little as seven ammo spent
this is the talent tree set up I use for matches
I should warn that while the Recon Mk VId can punch harder than most give her credit for, this is a gun that requires a lot more effort to run in higher difficulties than other weapons
I'm running 9 stam curios and taking the extra +1 stam node under Confirmed Kill near the top of the tree
I'm taking Duck and Dive then using it with Focus Target + Target Down to restore stam by pushing into the frontline and purposely baiting then dodging incoming ranged enemy fire while also pinging priority targets and shooting them down
I have to maintain consistent headshots with my Headhunter blessing in combination with Deadshot so the crit stacking feeds Shock Trooper and lets me spray so many shots for free
This is the clown dance
If this sounds ridiculous then you should definitely not do it because it absolutely is
You can run weapons like Plasma, Columnus Infantry Autogun and Revolver with far less effort and a less strict talent tree set up
If I may just still respect you for finding a way to make the weapon work
like the darktide official website?
Plasma, Columnus Infantry Autogun and Revolver will all be able to kill targets faster and perform better on DPS/TTK
Recon Mk VId, weirdly enough, excels at ammo economy
because when you can kill a Crusher in as little as 7 ammo spent
on a gun with 108 ammo per clip at max ammo
Laspistol is also a surprisingly effective weapon I find
and 800 more in reserve
you're not running out of ammo unless you're spraying it into the trash
My respecr to you sir. You one of the kind that " everygun fun to play"
Actually yes and I rotate between guns frequently depending on mood LMFAO
Recently I've been running my Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun for the skulls event
very fun clicking heads
Same with me.that why im asking for idea,thoughts and tip for avaible guns to use.
My current fav guns are:
Recon Mk VId #1 Clown's Choice Award
Helbore Mk II second fav gun in the entire game
Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun
Accatran Mk II Laspistol
Agripina Shotgun
but I generally cycle to all of the guns one way or another except for Plasma because I don't like how easy it makes the game
fun weapon but it makes things into a point and click adventure
But if you like the Recons and want to play like a normal person I'd recommend the Recon Mk VIIa
It plays very similarly to a Kantrael Mg1a Infantry Lasgun but has bullet cleave
Hardest hitting but slowest firing variant
It does consume 2 ammo per shot compared to both the Mk II and Mk VId consuming 1 ammo per shot but that's partially offset by the low fire rate
This is intresting
I tried with kantriel. But got overwhelm and lost the mission maybe my skill issue.
The Kantrael Infantry Lasguns struggle against Flak and are worthless against Carapace but Carapace is exclusively Crushers and the heads of Maulers so it's not that big of a deal if you bring a melee weapon to kill them or bring Kraks
It's hard unlearning how much the gun makes you want to tunnel vision down the sights and click heads. That was the first thing I had to rewire in my clown head because it blinds you to approaching specials/elites in other directions and leaves you vulnerable to poxwalkers sneaking up behind. As fun as it is to shoot, sometimes you have to swap into melee or drop a grenade and deal with things until you can create the space to begin firing again
Idk if that is your trouble too but if it is then it just means you will improve with practice
Also if you're being overwhelmed with a lasgun, consider using your melee
A infantry lasgun user will never not be overwhelmed
Indeed
Cadia stands
Any tips on Make Every Shot Count? I assume go with a revolver or something else with low ammo, make sure I hit shots and dump into a monster if there is one?
I did it with Zarona revolver
I assume that I should also not have survivalist on as that will give more ammo?
And yeah, also don’t just dump your whole ammo stock in the beginning, pick up the little ammo tins to use for emergencies
If you've got the extra dockets to burn at Brunt's, buy grey weapons of your preferred weapon type until you get a low ammo high damage version and run with that
Easier to do with less shots to care about
I did mine with the Lawbringer Shotgun
Revolver, shotgun, plasmagun or bolter, empty into a boss or shoot into a horde
Keep in mind that shooting Bulwark Shields counts as a miss
If you miss a shot
Hit two shots or more
And yes, don't have survivalist. You can get by this by emptying your reserve, switching to melee, and never swapping back, but its much more trouble then it's worth
Yeah i went with a power sword and full grenade build with frags. Took a revolver and basically mag dumped at the start and counted if every shot hit or missed, picking up ammo to get to the threshold and then didnt pick up any more bullets. Took 2 runs because the first one i didnt actually bother counting
Honestly with full nade talents and even a mid power sword youre strong enough to deal with everything and have enough nades for gunner gangs
Thats probably the less griefy way to play lol but i feel this penance is already encouraging griefing
Which is exactly why I did it that way lmao. I’d basically hover with like 6-10 rounds for specials/horde stuff, then when we were near the final section I fully emptied and didn’t restock
Plus, more rounds fired means some more wiggle room if I did miss any shots
I just played like normal but was more careful with my shots and ran missions over and over until I got it
The end segments of hordes just rushing at you on pretty much any map mean you can very easily empty whatever last few rounds are left in your gun
I got mine first attempt when I decided to go for it
Ended up being way easier than I’d thought
Yeah it's not as tricky as it seems but it gets frustrating when allies kill a target 0.1 seconds before you fire
and you hit air
so it's partially being careful around your team too so you're not wasting shots trying to shoot a target they might kill first
Yeah
I was trying to make an image joke on the double pomni but google image search was a very bad idea
She's uh. Very popular
Ah yes, my favorite speedrun category
Running the loner aura on that eh?
💀
Did you find out it was all:
Not really. This is worse 
It is the balloon kind?
@wanton dawn So you don’t wanna say it out because it’s worse than 4 chaos god?
Lasgun fan vs Autogun enjoyer
The Cadian? Yeah probably
Why is the CADIAN angry?
That's a GOOD QUESTION 
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That crap is like mixxing toddler yt with facebook minion. With porn subtext
Everyone says the Vet penances aren't bad, but playing gun vet makes me feel like I'm being double fisted
Good thing I'm done with them tbh
The real question is what do we do after we get the penance armor, the answer is to stop playing so no one sees it 
in terms of being tedious
ogryn > zealot = veteran > psyker
I think longest was either krak or mf but i enjoyed mf
imo
Krak one isn't too bad, imo killing 2500 enemies at 10 stacks of marksman focus made me want to die
I'd rather sit in traffic cones
Professionally
For mf i just adjusted my ciag build into a pure glass canon
did it in 3 games with plasma and crabwalk
I got to crabwalking after raising my blood pressure enough
Getting 2500 wk crit kill in 3 games ? How long are your game 
marksman focus is any kill
weapon specialist is weakspot crit kill (elite / specialist)
2500 kills in 3 games a lot of kills by any means
Still is 833 kill at 10 stacks per game
could have farmed mercantile
Yeah but farming for penance is the death of gaming
I mean that's the content they wanted to add
Getting the krak one was one of the most annoying thing for me since getting 15 game without down
The 500 kraks aren't bad
If you build entirely around kraks and just use PS Plasma
The double grenade helps immensely
I got a lot done in one rotation of melee only
Krak isn't bad just do high intensity and hope you get scabs
throw one in the middle of a patrol and if you have the dual grenade perk can get a guarantee 8-10 kills
Scab mostly melee no ammo = krak done super fast
500 kills incite to use on flak enemies
also with the 2500 kills one aslong as you have the 10 stacks any type of kill counts for the most part
Yeah but taking krak on this mod is suboptimal
In the end i just find annoying to farm 500 kill with a blitz that is poor at grouped kill, thats all
June 25
what do you guys think of this build? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader
"At the end of the day, though he's been ferried through hell on a ship that's ten thousand years old to some godforsaken, war-torn rock; though he deployed from high orbit with nothing but a grav chute; though he is one of ten million men and women snatched from his homeworld to fight a war he barely understands; though he has been given a weapon that fires small suns and may annihilate him as he fires because the knowledge of how it functions has been lost; though his company is supported by tractor-tanks that run on anything you can burn; though he wages war against a devouring hivemind, ravenous demons and hordes of hyper-advanced aliens with strange technologies and sorceries he never dreamed existed; no one will remember his sacrifice, there will be no records of his deeds, no glorious parades in his honor, and no remembrance of his name. All he will earn is a shallow, unmarked grave on a forgotten world untold lightyears from home.
Yet for all this thankless sacrifice a Guardsman is a man, just like you. He has no millennia-old genetic engineering, no prophetic leader, no miracles of faith. He has his lasgun, his orders, and those beside him. He is the Imperial Guard.
And he will hold the line."
whats them circles mean there cramer?
It means good and bad
Red is stuff i would not take
The rending is for chainsaw. Not really great for plasma
Tbf i think this build has 1 free point
Which Infantry lasgun should I use out of the 3?
aight wahts that yellow circle mean cramer?
It means i had no green in my color bar
U can't make me
The Ia
Or the 4
If you want carpal tunnel
😌
Remove 8 focus stack node
It's bad
1 pt for a worse fire team is not worth
I would consider agile engagement with all the pts you save
Out for blood is also worth thinking about if you want even more toughness since chs is great on hordes. Demo team as mentioned by mrcraime is good, so you could do ofb and demo team or spend all 3 pts saved on agile
4 or 1
where is the agile thing ur talking about?
nice bless up
preciate it fam
sorry i just picked up the game yesterday and the pinned pdf's werent cutting it
are these good blessings for lasgun?
You know I couldn't remember the name of the SpongeBob "7 mile spanking machine" so I looked up "SpongeBob spanking train" man was that a mistake
Which lasgun
Deadly accurate yes
la
Los Angeles
yes the los angeles lasgun
Yeah it's the Los Angeles pattern lasgun
what would be a good second one to that?
Headhunter

You guys get the feeling where you want to play darktide then you try and fall asleep?
Or am I just narcoleptic
ok I REALLY don't get the autopistol
my graia braced autogun suppresses stuff 3 times faster
what is the point of this gun?
real
yesn
it used to be too good, so they neutered it and now it doesnt have a place. But its decent for stealth and popping up behind enemy lines and BLASTIN
mood
Which one
i was watching porn on newgrounds at that age so yea
You can just be a traumatized 8 year old
People are heathens tbh
It's a shame man! I really want a good plain pistol build but the graia does what it does but WAY better
I hope they buff it back to being relevant
so true
los angeles lasgun 😭
billions must seek god
Perhaps one day
Idk bro if God was real he wouldn't make me take dooks so big
billions must reunite with jesus at the golden gate of heaven
he just testing you
god give u battle
u fight it alright
cuz u are 1 of his best soldier
cadian
God truly gives his toughest battles to his drunkest drivers
truly
Fr fr
sadly im a secondary lorelet
Cadia is certified no Skibidi
grimace shake
gyatt damn
Do the thug shake
Vibe thud 2.mp3
demand that the bloodthirster do the truffle shuffle, see what happens
am i the zealot?
i love zealot chat
Slanesh can't trick me all I care about is flexing
even worse, tricked by khorne
zealot chat dont even have true zealot
only false shepherd
worse chat ever
commissar should have shot zealot chat
Khorne can't trick me either I'm way too handsome
right now
best chat ever, the best chat ive ever seen folks - that's what they tell me
so is mingling with xeno counted as sodomy?
Does it fuck you in the ass
hmm
